[00:00] <aguitel> uskerine, try to login in this user with different password
[00:04] <aguitel> home directory is only visible for the propietarie user and for the administrator
[00:48] <deevad> hey, is mouse pointer 'busy' icon is broken in 12.04 ?
[00:50] <deevad> when I launch an apps , no startup feedback.   Thats weird. My install is default one... : /
[02:41] <erict> what does the 'stick' window manager button do?
[02:42] <erict> the little circle one that takes an arrow to the knee when you click it
[02:44] <ruien> I'm not sure if you're describing the one I'm thinking of, but I think you are talking about the button which causes a window to stay on top even when it loses focus. That's useful for notes written in a text editor that you want to keep on top
[02:47] <erict> I don't know, it's under settings manager > window manager > button layout - and it's got a + symbol in the settings panel
[02:47] <erict> and when you say it loses focus, what do you mean?
[02:48] <erict> oh woahhh, sorry I'm new to Xfce and just tried out the focus follows mouse setting in window manager
[02:48] <ruien> open two windows and drag one onto the other. Then click the sticky button on the top window, and then click the window behind it so the window manager focus is now on the back window. Typically that window would pop to the front, but if the front window is stickied, it should stay in front (just not active)
[02:50] <erict> ok then, either mine is messed up or that's a diff button... that would be a handy tool
[02:52] <ruien> oh, i'm sorry
[02:52] <ruien> you meant the sticky button - i wasn't using that one
[02:52] <ruien> that makes it appear on all workspaces
[02:52] <erict> ohhh lol yea I just figured that out
[02:52] <ruien> sorry for misleading
[02:53] <ruien> The always on top is actually in the Xfce pull-down menu in the top-left of the window
[02:53] <erict> np mate, though what is the button you were talking about?
[02:53] <erict> ahhh ok cool
[02:55] <erict> thanks for the help, another question about workspaces, I set ctrl + arrow as my switch workspace shortcut in regular ubuntu, any idea what the command would be to switch workspace?
[02:57] <ruien> by default, it's CTRL-Alt-arrow
[02:58] <erict> -facepalm- I must be blind, I looked for it in keyboard shortcuts and didn't see workspace nav
[02:58] <ruien> You can configure it in the Settings Manager -> Window Manager -> Keyboard tab, under "Left Workspace" and "Right Workspace"
[02:58] <ruien> I change it to <Super>-arrow
[02:59] <erict> yea I had it as <Super>-arrow on my desktop but on my netbook it's a lot easier with ctrl-arrow
[02:59] <ruien> yeah ok
[02:59] <erict> oh ok, I'm looking under the wrong keyboard settings window, I'm looking at apps shortcuts
[03:00] <erict> lol I thought it was kind of weird that I was going to have to look up commands for all of the usual window nav shortcuts...
[03:01] <ball> Is there an easy way from the command line to tell what version of Xubuntu is installed?
[03:02] <ruien> yeah, there are two places where shortcuts are defined - under the Window Manager settings "Keyboard" tab, and also the "Settings Manager -> Keyboard" panel. Just set all the keyboard commands to be whatever you're already used to.
[03:02] <ruien> ball: Xubuntu is constantly updated (like Ubuntu), so two people with ostensibly the same Xubuntu won't necessarily have exactly the same version. Can you give me an example of what you mean?
[03:02] <ruien> Do you mean the version of Xfce?
[03:03] <ball> No, I just meant in terms of release
[03:03] <ruien> hmm, well there's /etc/lsb-release which tells you the compatibility
[03:04] <bazhang> !version | ball
[03:04] <ball> Lucid apparently
[03:04] <ball> Thanks
[03:04] <ball> Is 12.04 an LTS?
[03:04] <ruien> yes
[03:04] <ball> Perhaps it's time to upgrade her.
[03:05] <ball> ...wonder if I can do that without hosing the system though
[03:05] <ruien> I used lucid for a couple of years as well. I didn't try to upgrade in place (I don't think that's possible from 10.04); I bought a new hard drive and did everything fresh.
[03:07] <ball> Hmm... okay
[03:08] <ball> I could probably just back up her files to another machine and break out a 12.04 CD
[03:08] <ball> ...means extra hours of work though
[03:09] <ruien> Yes, that's why (like you) I only do it once every two years :)
[03:12] <erict> ruien: how long have you used Linux/Ubuntu?
[03:12] <erict> */Xubuntu
[03:12] <ruien> since about 9.10
[03:12] <erict> did you start off with Ubuntu?
[03:13] <ruien> no, originally Mandriva then Gentoo, then Ubuntu 9.10, then went to Xubuntu 10.04 and stuck with that until 12.04
[03:13] <ruien> I am also familiar with CentOS 5 and 6 though
[03:13] <erict> gotcha, and what do you use now with 12.04?
[03:16] <ball> This is the first time I've had paws on this machine since I built it.  I'm not surprised the user didn't do a release update
[03:18]  * ball tries to remember how to install something that knows about the CPU temperture
[03:18] <ball> lmstat?
[03:19] <ruien> erict: I'm still on Xubuntu 12.04 (I prefer Xfce to the other window managers)
[03:37] <ball> lm-sensors, that's the one!
[06:06] <xubuntu689> hi a complete newbie here. using latest xubuntu and love it but get this error when I try to open software centre: Failed to execute command "/usr/bin/software-center %u".
[06:11] <ruien> can you tell us how you installed xubuntu? When installing 12.04 from scratch, /usr/bin/software-center should exist. Does that binary exist on your system?
[06:13] <xubuntu689> it does exist but I always get that message and this:  Failed to execute child process "/usr/bin/software-center" (No such file or directory)
[06:15] <ruien> on 12.04?
[06:16] <xubuntu689> the same thing happens when I try to access Update Manager?
[06:57] <Moonchild1520> hello
[06:57] <laite> !hi
[07:02] <uskerine> hi, is there any drawback in Xubuntu 64 bits? (like chrome, or flash or youtube not working) thanks
[07:02] <baizon> uskerine: enable html5 or install flash
[07:03] <baizon> else you can install chromium-browser
[07:03] <baizon> the choice is yours :)
[07:03] <Sysi> in other words, no drawbacks
[07:03] <Sysi> I'm not sure about skype though
[07:04] <baizon> Sysi: skype is in universe if im not wrong
[07:04] <uskerine> sorry i am not sure i got it, are you saying that html5 and flash won't work?
[07:05] <baizon> uskerine: i mean you CAN use html5 or flash, both work
[07:05] <uskerine> ok good
[07:05] <uskerine> so if i have a 64 bits machine, there is no reason for going with 32 bits installation, right?
[07:05] <baizon> yes
[07:05] <baizon> im using x64
[07:05] <baizon> and there is a x64 flash version
[07:05] <uskerine> good
[07:05] <uskerine> i thought there was no x64 flash
[07:06] <uskerine> is it new one?
[07:06] <Sysi> been around for ages, even for linux
[07:06] <baizon> uskerine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[07:07] <uskerine> good
[07:07] <Sysi> I think x86_64 flash has been around for at least three years
[07:08] <uskerine> ok thanks
[07:08] <uskerine> maybe it was in freebsd where it was not available
[07:09] <uskerine> (or maybe i am getting too old and i speak of 4 years ago like if it were yesterday)
[07:48] <Fudge> hi
[07:50] <Fudge> i want to put xubuntu-desktop on a slow machine p4 dual core 3gig ide hard drive 1gig ddr, i have precise gnome running on it but it s very slow. my question is how i can i get lightdm to export some accessibility settings for xubuntu-desktop like i have in my xinitrcexport GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtk
[08:27] <Fudge> after installing xubuntu-desktop shouldnt lightdm show a session name?
[08:51] <laite> Fudge: try pressing F1 in login screen
[08:51] <laite> oh sorry, no, that was for slim
[09:27] <Fudge> what is slim laite
[09:27] <Sysi> different login manager
[09:40] <Fudge> when ever I try t ouse xubuntu on plain ubuntu system I seem to have pulse problems
[09:44] <Fudge> ill switch to pulse system and remove pulse xdg/autostart desktops items
[10:02] <adasiek_abix> hello to everyone ;-) after years of using Gnome2, and 2 months of using Unity, Xubuntu is very great piece of software ;-)
[10:03] <chelz> adasiek_abix: welcome. never leave ;)
[10:05] <adasiek_abix> I think, if Unity will not  change in future its behavior, I'll stay with XFCE ;-)
[10:06] <adasiek_abix> I thought that Unity will be good for bussiness as desktop solution, but it is not
[10:06] <chelz> yeah xfce won't do that to you
[10:06] <chelz> it stays sane so people can get work done
[10:06] <chelz> gnite though
[10:07] <adasiek_abix> the way in which Unity take control over the applications is so ugly
[10:07] <adasiek_abix> I could not install QT Designer in Unity, in XFCE without any problems
[10:34] <Fudge> ok guys i use gnome-orca which is a screen reader for the blind, now using xubuntu-desktop 4.10 i seem to be able to use the system enough to watch media. is anyone well versed on accessibility to help me get firefox/thunderbird working?
[10:35] <Fudge> currently my .xinitrc exports: export GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtk
[12:08] <Aetcho> Hey, I have a problem with xubuntu. Whenever i boot it from my usb, and open a window in it ( firefox for example ), it freezes and i can't do anything else than alt+f2 and sudo reboot. Anyone have a solution?
[14:22] <japplo> hi
[14:22] <japplo> will xfce 4.10 come to xubuntu 12.04?
[14:23] <baizon> japplo: no
[14:23] <baizon> 12.10
[14:23] <japplo> shit
[14:23] <baizon> but there is a ppa with 4.10
[14:23] <baizon> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.10
[14:24] <japplo> ok, I know
[14:24] <japplo> it seems, that I can only use xfce, because 3d is not supported (Geforce 4)
[14:30] <baizon> japplo: you mean you want to use ubuntu but cant?
[14:33] <japplo> baizon:I tried ubuntu but without 3d I can only use unity 2d and this is very slow
[14:40] <baizon> indeed
[14:40] <baizon> unity 2D will be droped with 12.10
[14:40] <baizon> so maybe it will work then :)
[15:15] <stu2000> hey all, anyone know how i can reset the xfce4-terminal back to default colouring?
[15:16] <stu2000> i guess ill hit the forums
[16:00] <laite> I would've known o/
[16:12] <baizon> me too :D
[16:12] <baizon> but people dont like to wait
[16:34] <ben_says> xubuntu 12.04   looking for audio guidance... what is default... pulse or alsa?
[16:35] <Sysi> alsa trough pulse
[16:36] <ben_says> ok.   i installed audacity and attempted to record what was coming out of my speakers... like wave out or stereo out.
[16:36] <ben_says> and first just hit record. nothing... so i went options and changing my input, and then my sound went wacky.
[16:38] <ben_says> like a fast chop adn almost a buzz.   i've rebooted and gone to audio settings and things are ok at the moment...  but does any one have an idea as to what happened...
[17:02] <ben_says> thanks sysi, ill check out other options.
[21:23] <ICWeiner> How do I change the console color?
[21:24] <ICWeiner> As in ctrl+alt+f1-f6. Not terminal emulator.
[21:41] <ICWeiner> How do I change the console color? I'm in CLI.
[21:41] <genii-around> ICWeiner: setterm -foreground blue -background black      for instance.
[21:42] <genii-around> ICWeiner: the setterm manpage has the colour names somewhere that you can set
[21:42] <ICWeiner> kool
[21:42] <ICWeiner> thx
[23:33] <Micah_> hello
[23:34] <Micah_> i am having trouble getting xubuntu to find my windows computers through the network can anyone help?
[23:39] <aguitel> with thunar ?
[23:44] <Micah_> yeah thunar
[23:44] <Micah_> or nautilus
[23:44] <Micah_> i can type smb://<ip> and get into the folder
[23:45] <Micah_> but if i click on windows shares i get nothing no workgroups or anything. just completly blank
[23:47] <Micah_> i just switched from sabayon where it was working fine so i know it's not my windows machine setup wrong.