| highvoltage | stgraber: any suggestions on how we should get rid of the akonaditray menu entry? | 18:07 |
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| highvoltage | I think we used to have something in the livesystem postrm (or maybe artwork postinst) that used to add a hidden=true in the .desktop file | 18:08 |
| highvoltage | but it doesn't seem to do that anymore and I remember you mentioned that there's a good way to hide them | 18:08 |
| stgraber | I think we ship a few .desktop overlay in -live or -artwork | 18:14 |
| alkisg | dpkg-divert? | 18:14 |
| alkisg | Ah, only on the live system? | 18:14 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: on the installed system too, although we try to avoid dpkg-divert if at all possible | 18:15 |
| stgraber | also post install, we just dump a .desktop in a path that's higher priority than kde's | 18:15 |
| highvoltage | where does the priority come from? | 18:15 |
| alkisg | highvoltage: modifying another package's file is worse than dpkg-divert, and it doesn't persist on package updates | 18:15 |
| * highvoltage checks the package again | 18:15 | |
| stgraber | alkisg: we don't modify it, we write an identically named file in an higher priority location and let xdg deal with the override | 18:16 |
| alkisg | Cool | 18:16 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: I know | 18:16 |
| alkisg | stgraber: any thoughts about when you'll have some time for the ltsp packaging? I tested with my local debian/ dir and it works fine, but I'd like to test with the Ubuntu packaging too... | 18:17 |
| stgraber | no, it's pretty low on my priority list, sorry | 18:18 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: I can't find that anywhere in the packaging though, perhaps it got lost with some cleanup (since the akonadi icons are back again) | 18:18 |
| stgraber | stgraber@castiana:~/Desktop/edu$ find . | grep desktop | 18:18 |
| stgraber | ./edubuntu-artwork-12.04.1/applications/kde4-nepomukcontroller.desktop | 18:18 |
| stgraber | ./edubuntu-artwork-12.04.1/applications/kde4-nepomukbackup.desktop | 18:18 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: ^ | 18:18 |
| highvoltage | (d'oh, just found them there) | 18:18 |
| highvoltage | ah nepomuk is there but not akonadi, I guess I'll add it | 18:19 |
| highvoltage | I just add a line that says "OnlyShowIn=KDE" and put it in that directory? | 18:20 |
| stgraber | yep | 18:20 |
| stgraber | if you have some spare time, you might try and poke the kde folks to include these by default | 18:21 |
| alkisg | stgraber: np, I just thought you'd like me to test the LTSP you'll ship with 12.10 (since I won't be able to test later on until 14.04 again)... | 18:21 |
| stgraber | so we don't have to override them :) | 18:21 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: yes I think that's a good idea | 18:21 |
| stgraber | alkisg: sure, but I'm focusing on 12.04.1 for the next 2 months, so my 12.10 time is pretty limited | 18:21 |
| alkisg | Do you think it'd take more than 10 minutes to approve the changes? | 18:21 |
| alkisg | ...and maybe do the ltsp-live changes you mentioned | 18:22 |
| stgraber | ltsp-live changes will take a day to babysit through the archive as it'll require source+bin newing + seed change + dvd rebuild, so yeah, closer to 1-2 days than 10min | 18:23 |
| alkisg | From the ltsp package side, you'll just remove them though, no? | 18:24 |
| alkisg | You don't need to have the ltsp-live package to review the ltsp debian/ dir... Or I got it wrong? | 18:24 |
| stgraber | I want to spend 1-2 days on LTSP and be done for the next 6 months ;) context-switching is very expensive. So maybe I don't need ltsp-live to review debian/, I don't know and I don't want to think about it now :) | 18:26 |
| highvoltage | hmm, nepomuk also still shows under the menus despite OnlyShowIn=KDE | 18:26 |
| alkisg | OK, thank you :) | 18:26 |
| highvoltage | heh, we have kturtle in the ubuntu-edu-tertiary package | 18:41 |
| highvoltage | (I guess it might be useful there in some cases) | 18:41 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: fyi (but no rush): https://code.launchpad.net/~jonathan/ubuntu-seeds/edubuntu.quantal/+merge/107679 | 18:45 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: am I reading this right? we'd have kstarts+stellarium? | 18:47 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: at least for now, I guess there's a good chance that we'll drop stellarium due to the arm issues, and our intent to have the same packages installed accross architectures | 18:48 |
| highvoltage | perhaps I should have removed stellarium already... but it's not the last package changes for the cycle for sure | 18:49 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: regarding ltsp-live, should I wait until it's removed from ltsp before making changes, or should I do it while it's in ltsp, or should I be the one moving it? | 18:54 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: feel free to propose changes against ubuntu:ltsp for now, I'll merge them before the split | 18:54 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: ok, at least that way I get in some ltsp commits too :) | 18:56 |
| highvoltage | (oh, not really) | 19:11 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: actually I'm not sure what to do, ubuntu:ltsp? is that what I get with pull-lp-source? | 19:14 |
| stgraber | it should be | 19:16 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: bzr branch ubuntu:ltsp => do your change => bzr push lp:~jonathan/ubuntu/quantal/ltsp/your-change => bzr lp-propose-merge | 19:16 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: ok, got it | 19:16 |
| highvoltage | https://code.launchpad.net/~jonathan/ubuntu/quantal/ltsp/autologin/+merge/107682 | 19:28 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: I think I understand the bug where unity 3d doesn't start on 3d capable hardware, it's because DESKTOP_SESSION isn't set by ldm | 20:05 |
| stgraber | so the gconf configuration overlay for unity never gets applied | 20:05 |
| stgraber | and the unity plugin is never loaded as a result | 20:05 |
| stgraber | the fix is quite hackish though and will be Ubuntu specific as DESKTOP_SESSION needs to be set to the name of the gnome-session that will be called, but you have no way to know that in a non-distro specific way as gnome-session's default is hardcoded in the binary... | 20:07 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: ah | 20:07 |
| stgraber | I wrote an Xsession script that I think does the right thing for Ubuntu and will have to be shipped on both client and server as it affects both thin and fat clients | 20:07 |
| highvoltage | I'm not sure why the script in the unity .desktop file can't set it, but I guess you could show me a bit later on then I'll understand what you mean | 20:09 |
| stgraber | because it needs to run before any gconf instance might be called. Doing it from the .desktop launcher would be racy | 20:09 |
| stgraber | I'm not even convinced it's not racy to do it where they're doing it at the moment ;) | 20:10 |
| highvoltage | ah ok | 20:10 |
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