[01:55] <Darkwing> rbelem:  ping
[02:10] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: bug 989915 ... if Qt is built with icu it will try to use it for unicode stuffs
[02:10] <apachelogger> so at best it should be a recommends
[02:10] <apachelogger> also it has absolutely nothing to do with the reported bug as Qt will simply use the builtin unicode tables
[02:11] <apachelogger> also if I am not mistaken ICU will be used for more locale stuff in Qt 5
[02:11] <apachelogger> not that it matters ^^
[02:12] <apachelogger> ah, nvm, has something to do with the report ^^
[02:12] <apachelogger> except it certainly aint an error ^^
[02:12] <apachelogger> so, either recommends or suggests or wontfix
[02:13]  * apachelogger would favor suggests or wontfix to keep it leightweight which is particularly beneficial for apps like murmur
[02:13] <apachelogger> so it might just as well be wontfix as suggests makes no difference :P
[02:13] <apachelogger> anyhow
[02:13] <apachelogger> nights
[02:22] <valorie> sweet dreams to the apachelogger
[03:44] <Linkmaster> question about the jump from 11.10 to 12.04: I noticed in liveCD's and a couple installs on my friends computers that there is now no longer the ability to install theme files locally. e.g., in the desktop theme, 11.10 there's an option to 'install theme', however, there is no such option in 12.04(only allowing to look at the theme section). This is nice to prevent confusion, but quite often, a lot of the themes are found via downloading
[03:44] <Linkmaster>  from kde-look, etc. etc. Was this intentional, or an overlook?
[09:10] <bulldog98> !find FindKDEGames.cmake
[10:25] <Mamarok> claydoh: I send a last warning to that new guy on the kubuntu-users-list, including the same again in German, that is the last warning from me, if he refuses to stick to it I will remove him
[10:27]  * apachelogger looks up drama
[10:29] <Mamarok> apachelogger: you will know immediately who I am talking about
[10:30] <apachelogger> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
[10:30] <apachelogger> Mamarok: the html fanboi?
[10:31] <apachelogger> sweet baby jesus
[10:32] <apachelogger> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2012-May/056461.html
[10:32] <Mamarok> not only HMTL, also not formatting his mail to make them readable and top-posting (the latter he apparently can) and yes, confusing a technical mailing list with a religious discussion list
[10:32] <apachelogger> that mail
[10:32] <apachelogger> is all that in one place
[10:35] <apachelogger> truth be told that is rather boring though ... something like a right wing guy insulting people or calling them cheap socialist bstds for using floss would have been more enjoyable :P
[10:35] <Mamarok> wait, he only just joined and already starts writing to one guy only and increasingly mixes religion into it, that is a no-go
[10:36] <Mamarok> there are enough religion-themed mailing lists out there, ours is definitely not the place for that
[10:36] <apachelogger> yeah, no question he is misbehaving
[10:36] <apachelogger> but I was hoping for something more ^^
[10:36] <Mamarok> and we already sent him PM to ask him to improve
[10:37] <Mamarok> today I sent the 3rd, after that I will simply remove him
[10:37] <apachelogger> +
[12:43] <apachelogger> anyone got time for a SRU?
[12:50] <CIA-122> [kubuntu-default-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20120528124958-qax8xrpo4to2pkdw * debian/changelog Since plymouth has no epoch this is a no-brainer (LP: #1005512)
[12:53] <CIA-122> [kubuntu-default-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20120528125341-1iv5c9aiwa6efeir * (2 files in 2 dirs) Set name of our default Plasma activity to desktop. This does not introduce a new string as Desktop is also the name upstream uses, so localization is already present (LP: #1004917)
[13:43] <Mamarok> oh my, I did it...
[13:50] <CIA-122> [kubuntu-default-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20120528135023-diy3dhuychw5dyou * (2 files in 2 dirs) * Set battery and wireless plasma widget key bindings (opening power management and networkmanagement respectively) * Refactor keybinding code in plasma default layout to be reusable and scale better for future endeavors
[14:02] <apachelogger> opinions on bug 820175 anyone?
[14:19] <apachelogger> oh gawd
[14:19] <apachelogger> I just lost applications due to activities
[14:19] <apachelogger> great
[14:19] <apachelogger> \o/
[14:24] <Ezim> is it only for me or is the boot-up speed better in 12.04 then 11.10?
[14:24] <Ezim> must be combo of upstart and new kde-release... of course kubuntu teams magic
[14:48] <apachelogger> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300759
[14:48] <apachelogger> ....
[14:48] <apachelogger> one dialog as wrong as they come
[14:49] <Ezim> apachelogger, do you mean krunner?
[14:49] <apachelogger> no, I mean plasma activities' application autoluncher
[14:49] <Ezim> apachelogger, I see.. sorry
[14:51] <Ezim> is there known bug in 12.04 when pressing on updating notificier the middle of the screen goes black?
[14:52] <apachelogger> bug 993672
[14:52] <apachelogger> too much text without linebreaks and Qt refuses to paint it, leading to the black window
[14:53] <Ezim> apachelogger, so is there any patch for it coming to 12.04?
[14:55] <apachelogger> that's what the bug says, no?
[14:56] <Ezim> oki
[15:11] <Mamarok> apachelogger: would it be asking too much to set bug versions in Plasma?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> hey all
[15:13] <Mamarok> apachelogger: you are ruining my efforts... /me goes crying in a corner
[15:14] <apachelogger> Mamarok: I dids
[15:14] <Mamarok> not for all, see the messages you jsut got
[15:14] <Mamarok> and there is a version field when you submit it, then you don't have to come back
[15:14] <apachelogger> Mamarok: see #kde-sysadmin
[15:15] <Mamarok> crap
[15:20] <apachelogger> Mamarok: FWIW, the ones I set the version on are the ones where I noticed it being unspecified and was unsure about having defined it ^^
[15:21] <Mamarok> OK. But what is wrong with toma: everytime I tell the facts (cause these are facts) he dismisses it a assumptions. I was right each time
[15:22] <Mamarok> and it is ruining my effort, it's not like I didn't triage about a thousand plasma bugs to set versions...
[15:23] <apachelogger> Mamarok: he is in a bad mood it seems
[15:23] <Mamarok> he is ALWAYS in a bad mood
[15:23] <Mamarok> I have never seen him otherwise, at lest not to me
[15:25] <Mamarok> and "file a bug report" is like forgetting about it if you don't point the responsible people on it on IRC
[15:26] <Mamarok> at least for b.k.o bugs. Those that were solved I had to specifically ask them to
[16:18] <debfx> ScottK: could you please have a look at bug #997826
[16:52] <Treora> Good day, I have a short question: I run Kubuntu, and want to start hacking KDE; do I now have to install whole KDE again from sources, or can I just get some headers to use the already installed KDE version?
[16:53] <Treora> Even just for starting with a simple "Hello World" KDE/Qt program, I get the impression that I need to install the complete KDE sources.
[17:19] <JontheEchidna> Treora: there are development headers for the various parts of KDE. The most basic one is a package called kdelibs5-dev
[17:19] <JontheEchidna> which should be enough for a hello world type app
[18:07] <Mamarok> Treora: you can also install kdevelop, that should drag in the necessary libraries
[18:10] <Mamarok> Treora: also have a look here: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started and here: http://flossmanuals.net/kde-guide/
[18:30] <Darkwing> rbelem: ping
[18:30] <rbelem> Darkwing, pong
[18:30] <Darkwing> rbelem: you were looking for me the other day?
[18:30] <rbelem> Darkwing, :-)
[18:30] <rbelem> Darkwing, yup
[18:30] <Darkwing> rbelem: You got an image yet?
[18:30] <rbelem> Darkwing, yeah... but video
[18:30] <Darkwing> What's up with the video?
[18:31] <rbelem> Darkwing, it just outputs to hdmi
[18:31] <rbelem> Darkwing, i found that link that points to the code the redirect the video to the lcd
[18:32] <Darkwing> rbelem: here is an updated ICS for them... Maybe there is something in the kernal or, source we can use... https://github.com/allwinner-ics
[18:32] <Darkwing> rbelem: you tried it?
[18:33] <rbelem> Darkwing, but i would not like to spend too much time with hardware setup. i would like to focus on kubuntu-active
[18:33] <rbelem> Darkwing, nice
[18:33] <Darkwing> rbelem: Okay, I'll do some digging into the HDW setup. Can you send me the links that you found?
[18:33] <rbelem> Darkwing, yup
[18:34] <Darkwing> david.wonderly @ kubuntu . org
[18:34] <Darkwing> thanks rbelem
[18:34] <Darkwing> my new server is almost up :D
[18:35] <Darkwing> dual core 3.4ghz with 2GB ram and a TB HD for personal server stuff.
[18:36] <rbelem> Darkwing,http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/04/28/how-to-create-your-own-debian-ubuntu-image-for-mele-a1000-allwinner-a10-based-stb/
[18:36] <rbelem> Darkwing, :-D
[18:36] <Darkwing> rbelem: ohhhhh YAY!
[18:37] <Darkwing> I'll have this running soon. :D
[18:38] <rbelem> Darkwing, i already have an image with kubuntu active. the problem is just the video :-(
[18:38] <Darkwing> rbelem: you have the source for that image?
[18:38] <Darkwing> uploaded somewhere?
[18:38] <rbelem> Darkwing, if you want.. i can upload it to my server
[18:39] <Darkwing> rbelem: Sweet. Then I can just wget pull it and work on that.
[18:39] <rbelem> Darkwing, you can play with this old image http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_image/
[18:40] <rbelem> for now
[18:40] <Darkwing> rbelem: I'll use that for now :D
[18:40] <Darkwing> rbelem: you keep working on active and I'll get this running on the tablet.
[18:40] <Darkwing> :D :D
[18:41] <rbelem> Darkwing, you will need a mini hdmi to see the output
[18:42] <Darkwing> rbelem: Got one.
[18:42] <Darkwing> I think.
[18:42] <rbelem> Darkwing, nice :-0
[18:42] <rbelem> oops
[18:42] <rbelem> :-)
[18:42] <Darkwing> I'll BRB