[07:13] <nancy-> what difference is in between #ubuntu-ops and #ubuntu-irc ?
[07:14] <bazhang> nancy-, this is for the loco channels
[07:15] <nancy-> loco?
[07:15] <elky> local community teams
[07:16] <nancy-> ubunt-irc has a bigger scope? than #ubuntu-ops. ?
[07:17] <nancy-> can #ubunt-irc be used for oper abuse also?
[07:17] <nancy-> IF ANYONE HERE HAS TIME /
[07:17] <Tm_T> not of core channels that should be handled on -ops
[07:18] <nancy-> Tm_T:  so general abuse matters can be discussed?
[07:18] <Tm_T> in general, yes
[07:18] <nancy-> ok
[07:19] <elky> no yelling, though.
[07:19] <nancy-> is #ubuntu-irc-council superiror than #ubuntu-irc ?
[07:19] <Tm_T> irc-council is what is looking after _all_ ubuntu irc channels
[07:20] <nancy-> that isnt the answer to my question
[07:20] <elky> it is, actually
[07:20] <Tm_T> irc channels aren't superior to each other, they're just channels
[07:21] <nancy-> rephrasse:are members and actions of  #ubuntu-irc-council superiror than #ubuntu-irc ?
[07:22] <elky> using context clues, I'd assume you're asking "take me to your leader, bleep blorp"
[07:22] <nancy-> elky:  it really wont help me i know. just following proceedures for a small matter. that isnt even mine
[07:22] <elky> in which case, #ubuntu-irc-council, the governing board for the irc namespace, resides there. No member of the board is "superior".
[07:23] <Tm_T> nancy-: yes, irc-council is responsible of this channel also, if you're asking that
[07:23] <elky> nancy-, if you were following an actual procedure, such as the written and publicised one, you'd be there already
[07:23] <elky> !appeals
[07:24] <elky> by the way "Paying #ubuntu-ops a visit" doesn't mean "join, say something to try and sound official and stuff, then leave less than a minute later"
[07:26] <nancy-> elky  keep you r by the ways and personal comments to your self
[07:26] <nancy-> and no one has time to answer appeals. in #ubuntu-irc-council. why make a room when no one attentds?
[07:27] <elky> The council are mere mortals, and cannot transcend timezones at whim.
[07:27] <elky> Some of them should start waking up soonish.
[07:28] <nancy-> atleast one should be available all the time
[07:28] <nancy-> ites been 3 days  of them sleeping then i would say
[07:29] <elky> by the way, we can google, mcloy http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/04/01/%23ubuntu-server.txt
[07:29] <nancy-> who are the council memeers by the way?
[07:29] <elky> (hint: search your amazon hostmask)
[07:30] <elky> specifically [13:55] <mcloy> ssh -i key.pem ubuntu@ec2-107-22-63-2.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[07:30] <nancy-> elky:  why giving me this link?
[07:30] <nancy-> yes we work together.
[07:30] <nancy-> an d he has been treated bad
[07:31] <elky> because you might want to know that if we non-councillors can figure this out, the council will also. They're not going to discuss stuff with someone who is not mcloy.
[07:32] <nancy-> but i know you peranoid people. you will start something else now. making me beg and do explainanations. that i wont.
[07:32] <nancy-> ya iam not here dto discuss either.
[07:32] <nancy-> just seeing what kind of members of ubuntu actually are
[07:33] <elky> You make no sense.
[07:33] <nancy-> who are council members any way. (sleeping for 2 days)
[07:33] <nancy-> elky:  reshape your intelligence
[07:34] <elky> Which planet has days that only last 12hrs?
[07:34] <nancy-> mcloy didnt got any response since 2 days. that give me a squallity impresssion
[07:35] <nancy-> who are council members any way. (sleeping for 2 days)
[07:36] <nancy-> can you name them?
[07:38] <nancy-> do you guys  get some SHAME .. some time ? not talking about ikonia. he is shameless.
[07:38] <nancy-> at least reply the person.
[07:39] <nancy-> and you are runing a 1500 user channel. wow
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[07:52] <bazhang> !ops | nancy-
[07:52] <DJones> nancy-: Please don't do that, hilighting people isn't a good idea
[07:52] <marienz> (especially not that many of them, when few of them will be able to help you)
[07:54] <elky> marienz, can we have idoru in here? :)
[07:55] <marienz> idoru is not a toy :(
[07:56] <elky> No, she's very efficient and her impartiality would be much appreciated.
[07:58] <nancy-> Help !
[07:58] <elky> nancy-, out of curiosity, which channel did you paste that from?
[07:58] <nancy-> Help!
[07:58] <ikonia> nancy-: = mcloy
[07:59] <elky> Yes. We know.
[07:59] <ikonia> I just saw that
[08:00] <ikonia> sorry, slow scrolling
[08:00] <ikonia> (reading through the scroll I mean)
[08:00] <nancy-> ah heres the bitch
[08:00] <elky> that was handy
[08:32] <Tm_T> I love sitting on a server room with earplugs
[08:38] <Tm_T> also, why server rooms don't have lightweight desks for those rare occasions when you need to work on them
[17:10] <amithkk> umm elky
[17:10] <amithkk> Did you ban amazon off here
[17:10] <amithkk> *?
[17:11] <Myrtti> where?
[17:11] <amithkk> Channel ban set for *!*@ec2-107-22-63-2.compute-1.amazonaws.com (+b) by elky.
[17:12] <amithkk> oh
[17:12] <Myrtti> er, obviously not
[17:12] <amithkk> Its a single ip :D
[17:12] <amithkk> Oops
[17:12] <amithkk> sorry for the ping
[19:02] <LinuxMonkey> Guys nothing too urgent but #ubuntu-offtopic would need an OP to take care of some obvious trolling, they were asked to stop, one got kicked and came back and continued.
[19:02] <oCean> LinuxMonkey: LjL is present, right?
[19:03] <Myrtti> we're watching all the time
[19:27] <Monika> We have the "problem" that #kubuntu-de is owned / "founded" by the freenode-staff pseudo account. It should probably be owned by the Ubuntu IRC council, just like all other #[k|x|l]ubuntu-[xx] channels. How can we achieve this?
[19:33] <jussi> Monika: the ircc can do it, just wait till one of them turns up - think AlanBell was active not so long ago
[19:36] <AlanBell> hi Monika
[19:37] <Monika> hi
[19:42] <Monika> AlanBell can you help me with that?
[19:43] <AlanBell> Monika: yeah, I should think so, let me have a look
[19:45] <AlanBell> staff, can someone give +F to ubuntuirccouncil in #kubuntu-de please
[19:46] <Fuchs> AlanBell: yus
[19:46] <Fuchs> erm, that looks a bit broken, hang on
[19:46] <AlanBell> thanks
[19:46] <Fuchs> ah, nope, there you go
[19:47] <Fuchs> note that #freenode-staff has more flags currently, but you know how to change that :)
[19:47] <Fuchs> *freenode-staff even
[19:47] <Fuchs> my typing sucks today :(
[19:47] <AlanBell> yeah, thats fine
[19:47] <Fuchs> purrfect.
[19:47] <AlanBell> Monika: was there anything you wanted me to do with it or is that OK?
[19:47] <Monika> /msg chanserv info #kubuntu-de => Founder : freenode-staff, UbuntuIrcCouncil looks ok
[19:47] <Monika> no, nothing to do
[19:47] <Monika> just to get this straightened out
[19:47] <AlanBell> great, thanks Monika
[20:26] <AlanBell> can someone help Daviey and I sort out a redirect from #ubuntu-maas to #maas
[20:28] <Fuchs> AlanBell: #maas appears to be +F, so an op in #ubuntu-maas should be able to  /mode #ubuntu-maas +f #maas
[20:28] <Fuchs> AlanBell: then make sure that people can't join, so the +f applies. So +if would be good. Maybe mlock that.
[20:29] <Fuchs> (/msg chanserv help set mlock, set all modes you need including +if #maas)
[20:29] <Fuchs> the other direction would be harder, since if a channel is not +F, you need to be op in both
[20:31] <AlanBell> cool, Daviey ^^
[20:32] <Fuchs> (prod me if you need something more, but he should have everything needed to achieve that)
[20:34] <guntbert> AlanBell: have you got time for a few minutes pm?
[20:34] <AlanBell> sure