[07:44] <ppisati> moin
[07:46]  * apw yawns at everyone
[09:10] <apw> man its hot today
[09:31] <Eimann> indeed
[09:33] <cking> sweltering
[10:24] <apw> cking, 22 already here, in the shade
[10:32] <cking> it's hot in my offices, 3 laptops running + 1 desktop
[10:32] <cking> *office
[10:35]  * apw notes he has just gottent a small breeze ... much appreciated
[10:37] <cking> must be dietary
[10:37] <apw> *slap*
[10:37]  * apw notes it is World IPv6 Launch Day on June 6th
[10:38] <cking> shudder
[10:41] <apw> google and facebook will go ipv6 permenantly so that should be a good test
[10:44] <cking> hrm, from the results from last year, it may just happen and nobody will notice
[10:45]  * cking getting impatient with spinny media
[10:46] <apw> cking, heres hoping
[12:03] <jMCg> jodh: ping - I have a bash in that 10.04 kernel that boot on the KVM, as left on Friday. What can I do to find out why it's not getting past that point?
[12:44] <ppisati> i hate when i issue "sudo reboot" in the wrong terminal...
[12:50] <cking> me too
[12:53] <jMCg> I really hate it when I do `sudo init 0` on a remote server..
[13:06]  * cking needs to kick his AP again
[13:39] <tjaalton> ideas why 3.4 doesn't initialize drm at all on intel? falls back to vesa which probably is the cause of a hard hang after maybe 10s of idling
[13:43] <apw> herton, successfully booted and running 3.2.0-25.40 on my main dev box
[13:44] <herton> apw, cool, henrix ^
[13:44] <apw> herton, dunno if such reports help any, or indeed if there is somewhere better to report them
[13:45] <henrix> apw: herton: maybe on the sru tracking bug...?
[13:46] <tgardner> cking, henrix: rebooting tangerine, OK ?
[13:46] <herton> apw, good to know nothing breaks, we don't have any way currently to see better who tested it
[13:46] <henrix> tgardner: ack
[13:46] <cking> tgardner, sure, no problem for me
[13:47] <herton> henrix, yeah, it doesn't hurt if people report success on tracking bugs
[14:12] <tjaalton> ok so the drm-next build doesn't actually contain the dri drivers.. maybe the build should fail harder when there are issues?
[14:39] <jMCg> Are there backports of current kernels to past LTS?
[14:40] <tgardner> jMCg, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport
[14:43] <jMCg> tgardner: I meant for 10.04..
[14:44] <tgardner> jMCg, the last backport kernel is Oneiric
[14:44] <jMCg> So, a precise kernel in Lucid.
[15:37]  * ppisati -> gym (before the entire world goes there...)
[16:05]  * apw watches his network do summersaults
[16:23] <cking> apw, how entertaining
[16:23]  * cking --> food
[16:54] <cking> grr, my daughter has been asked to do some homework on a microsoft .pub publisher file.  time to educate the teachers (again) on "open" standards
[17:00] <apw> cking, and lo won't read it ?
[17:01] <cking> she needs to "edit it and print it out"
[17:01] <cking> I'm sending a well crafted letter to the school. 
[17:01] <apw> how can they possibly assume you have any of this ... 
[17:01] <cking> £299 for office
[17:01] <cking> mad
[17:01] <cking> so much for free education in lame UK
[17:01] <apw> cking, actually for education you can get one which is *only* 80 quid
[17:02] <apw> but thats still not right
[17:02] <cking> apw, £299 is the cheapest version that does publisher.
[17:02] <apw> cking, oh ... crap
[17:02] <cking> the student version doesn't do this
[17:02] <apw> that utterly unreasonable then, how can half the people afford it
[17:02] <cking> indeed. that's why poor families fail.
[17:02] <apw> without using a torrent
[17:03] <cking> she will get a detention  if she can't get it done.
[17:03] <cking> the system is broken and wrong
[17:03] <apw> that ought to be illegal
[17:03] <cking> the IT teacher is stupid, she calls it all "softwares"
[17:03] <apw> the teacher should get fired, for being stupid
[17:04] <apw> open lettter: "Do you think it is reasonable to require a 299 GBP expenditure to answer one assignment"
[17:04] <cking> if my daughter uses the computer at school she has to pay to do so.
[17:05] <apw> cking, sick L on the teacher that should fix it
[17:05] <apw> cking, how much do they charge
[17:05] <cking> too much to print each page.  They can't export it and let me print it at home.
[17:06] <cking> nuts
[17:06]  * apw hands cking a fully automatic, time to go postal on the "softwares" users
[17:06]  * apw pops out to the s/m
[17:59] <apw> bah full of _people_
[18:24]  * ppisati feels like a corpse...
[18:25]  * jussi hands ppisati a coffin to lie in...
[18:31] <JanC> cking: MS Publisher still exists?
[18:33] <cking> JanC, I converted it using the zamzar website and munged the resulting output into something printable using gimp
[18:33] <JanC> At one point MS talked about stopping its development, apparently they didn't
[18:36] <JanC> nobody uses it for "real" DTP anyway
[18:39] <JanC> cking: can't they bring their own laptop with real "softwares" instead of paying?  ;)
[18:40] <cking> JanC, if only the world was perfect and we all used "open" document standards... *sigh*
[18:41]  * cking calls it a day
[20:31]  * tgardner -> EOD
[23:39] <pac1> what is the upstream kernel tag I should use for working with the 3.2, 3.3 and 3.4 kernels?  do I need a separate upstream kernel for 3.2, 3.3 and 3.4 or will just one work for all three clones?