[18:03] <mdeslaur> FYI, security team meeting cancelled because of US holiday
[18:05] <chrisccoulson> slackers
[18:05] <chrisccoulson> :)
[18:07] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: I'm all alone :)
[18:17] <zul> mdeslaur: im here to keep you company
[18:18] <mdeslaur> hehe
[21:00] <cjwatson> well, I'm here for TB having belatedly noticed it; dunno if anyone else is
[21:01] <cjwatson> I know it's a US holiday
[21:02] <cjwatson> not much on the agenda though
[21:02] <MrChrisDruif> I'm not aware if the Technical Board meeting will proceed as usual. Also in Europe it's a holiday
[21:03] <soren_> o/
[21:03] <cjwatson> there was nothing on the TB list indicating cancellation
[21:03] <cjwatson> MrChrisDruif: only parts of Europe
[21:04] <soren_> Not Britain?
[21:04] <cjwatson> Not the UK this year, no
[21:04]  * stgraber waves
[21:04] <MrChrisDruif> Holland it's every year
[21:04] <cjwatson> It's moved in the UK this year due to the Queen's diamond jubilee
[21:05] <cjwatson> anyway, just saying, the UK is part of Europe too so generalising holidays is difficult :)
[21:05] <soren> Indeed.
[21:05] <cjwatson> who's chair this week?  agenda is out of date but I infer probably stgraber
[21:05] <cjwatson> unless soren's carried over from last time
[21:06] <stgraber> not sure :)
[21:06] <soren> That'd be three ties in a row :)
[21:06] <soren> This one seems as easy as the last two, though.
[21:06] <stgraber> #startmeeting
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[21:06] <stgraber> fine :)
[21:06] <stgraber> #topic Action Review
[21:06] <cjwatson> the main thing I see not on the agenda is the Mythbuntu LTS plan
[21:06] <cjwatson> FWIW
[21:07] <stgraber> wiki doesn't list anything, so I guess we're good there?
[21:08] <stgraber> #topic Mythbuntu LTS plan
[21:08] <stgraber> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2012-May/001258.html
[21:08] <stgraber> we don't have quorum but I guess we can at least look at it and discuss it
[21:08] <cjwatson> three is quorate
[21:09] <stgraber> oh right, forgot we're just 6
[21:10] <cjwatson> I've just rather belatedly followed up to the list with my thoughts
[21:10] <soren> Yeah, without superm here, I'd rather do e-mail as well.
[21:10] <soren> superm1, I mean.
[21:10] <cjwatson> basically that I can see some possible problems but it seems a reasonable thing to try
[21:10] <cjwatson> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2012-May/001277.html
[21:12] <soren> It'll be interesting to see. If it works out well, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw more like this.
[21:12] <cjwatson> I do worry a bit about intermediate bitrot; there is some devil in the detail.
[21:13] <cjwatson> Probably not enough to scupper the idea in the case of Mythbuntu.  A flavour with wider focus might have more difficulty, I feel.
[21:13] <stgraber> if we decide to allow it, we'll need to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecognizedFlavors to reflect this as they'll by definition won't meet the "Must have a proven track record of participating in at least 2 non-LTS releases before applying to TechnicalBoard for LTS designation."
[21:14] <cjwatson> Huh?  Mythbuntu has participated in considerably more than two non-LTS releases.
[21:14] <cjwatson> I don't think it would be a brilliant idea to allow it for entirely new flavours.
[21:14] <cjwatson> Two years is too long a period for any kind of agility in trying out new things.
[21:15] <stgraber> hmm, indeed, reading it again, I didn't interpret this properly ;) For some reason I parsed that as we want them to release two consecutive release prior to an LTS, but that's indeed not what it says :)
[21:17] <cjwatson> No, it was intended as "must not be total newcomers" really
[21:18] <stgraber> right, so should we just continue the discussion with Mario on the mailing-list?
[21:18] <cjwatson> Sounds good.
[21:19] <stgraber> #topic Select a chair for the next meeting
[21:19] <cjwatson> At least he's had a reply now :)
[21:19] <stgraber> cjwatson: so I guess next chair in the list is you?
[21:19] <cjwatson> Yep
[21:19]  * cjwatson checks the calendar
[21:20] <cjwatson> And I believe I'm even around that day
[21:20] <stgraber> #action cjwatson to chair the next TB meeting (11th of June)
[21:20] <meetingology> ACTION: cjwatson to chair the next TB meeting (11th of June)
[21:20] <stgraber> #topic AOB
[21:20] <stgraber> anything?
[21:20] <soren> Not from me.
[21:20] <cjwatson> Nor I
[21:21] <stgraber> alright
[21:21] <stgraber> #endmeeting
[21:21] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon May 28 21:21:04 2012 UTC.
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[21:21] <cjwatson> Thanks
[21:21] <soren> \o/&
[21:21] <stgraber> thanks everyone for attending!