[03:14] <bazhang> ibm either has serious vision issues or is being a nuisance intentionally. that's at least 6 times someone has told them the correct command
[07:08] <nancy-> i have been looking the matter about ikonia and mcloy. what ever happened was wrong with mcloy. shame on you guys
[07:12] <bazhang> lordie
[07:49] <bazhang> #kubuntu has multiple ucenick spammers
[08:02] <elky> well, since they "both" share a connection, we'll have to make sure "both" of them are behaving appropriately before either gets unbanned.
[08:06] <nancy-> Liam stlsaint ryan tm_travolt kloeri myriam melissa alan Corey Pici carl gryllida sad157 mrmist gary travis idleone jared bazhang jordan pricey myrtti Dave2 Daviey maco tom ukikie quassel jayne beuno h00k quassel lyz mneptok ubottu topyli yano nhandler tritium marienz chrisdruif ukikie ljl jtrucks logbot harald quassel lallinaho niko fuchs alan flannel jpds irc jrib tm_travolt       DO YOU FEEL SHAME? runing a 1500 user channel a
[08:06] <elky> nancy-, How about you start acting civilly.
[08:07] <nancy-> i have seen civil from you all
[08:08] <jpds> nancy-: Nothing wrong with being popular.
[08:08] <mrmist> nancy-: hi. Thanks for the ping, but I can't help you. Maybe ping more selectively in future.
[08:08] <elky> What amuses me is that you're pasting a user list from a channel you're not on, to get attention.
[08:09] <nancy-> mrmist:  i know.  thats why you are an op :)
[08:10] <nancy-> Allen is a council member too right?  he dont have time either.. why open the #ubuntu--irc-council then?
[08:10] <elky> Sleep is a legitimate reason to be away from one's computer.
[08:10] <nancy-> AlanBell: *
[08:10] <Myrtti> great job in annoying people by highlighting them. that is a certain method of getting help
[08:11] <elky> Myrtti, the wrong kind of help, sadly.
[08:11] <Myrtti> ikr
[08:11] <nancy-> at least one should be availabel weh other slhen others sleep for (2 day s in this case)
[08:12] <nancy-> Myrtti:  you are an op. its your duty to get annoyed
[08:12] <elky> nancy-, your math is atrocious. mcloy was last spoken to less than a day ago.
[08:12] <nancy-> so they are sleeping since a day
[08:12] <nancy-> ?
[08:12] <nancy-> all members?
[08:13] <nancy-> why not #ubuntu-ops also sleep?
[08:13] <elky> no, i'd imagine that they were responsive while mcloy was asleep.
[08:13] <elky> you currently have people here who are in awake timezones.
[08:13] <nancy-> lol. mcloy was online all the time.
[08:13] <elky> there's 58 of us, it's bound to happen
[08:14] <nancy-> elky are you all fantastic in bulshit?
[08:14] <Myrtti> nancy-: annoying people who could help you doesn't make it more  probable they will help you the way you want
[08:14] <elky> if mcloy has been online for 20+hrs, then we're doing him a favour by not letting him continue.
[08:14] <elky> He should go get some sleep.
[08:14] <nancy-> Myrtti: ^ ?
[08:14] <nancy-> thanks so much.
[08:14] <nancy-> for all favours.
[08:15] <nancy-> we all pray that something bad happends with ikon	
[08:15] <nancy-> and you all
[08:15] <elky> Wishing harm on people isn't known for getting the results you want, either.
[08:16] <Myrtti> thanks for proving my point
[08:16] <nancy-> huh
[08:26] <jpds> Random.
[08:26] <ikonia> nah, nothing random about him
[08:27] <popey> did he spark up an ec2 instance just for _that_?
[08:27] <ikonia> nah, he's had that a while
[08:27] <ikonia> it's his mail server that he's been trying to configure for $X ammount of months
[08:27] <ikonia> (at least I think it's the same host)
[08:32] <elky> that he just claimed in PM to me he was setting up for "a friend" and coincidentally even knew to put the '-' at the end of the nick.
[08:32] <ikonia> well, that's lucky
[08:33] <elky> for an unregistered nick and everything
[08:33] <ikonia> some times the cards fall for you
[08:33] <ikonia> as it surly can't be a lie
[08:34] <Tm_T> tsssk
[09:34] <elky> oh dear gods...
[09:34] <Tm_T> again, aww
[13:09] <oCean> csilk> sorry, Where I come from that is not considered swearing. Where I come from also happens to be the place mark shuttleworth lives in case you were wondering
[13:12] <oCean> csilk> Don't quote me the rules when you don't understand them yourself and don't at a user when they are seeking clarification, you just asked me to be professional yet you are failing to do yourself. I will say god damn as much as I want. It's your problem if I am offending your beliefs. Act like an adult and stop being so god damn offended. Welcome to the real world.
[13:12] <oCean> ^from pm
[13:12] <knome> umm
[13:13] <oCean> yeah
[13:13] <bazhang> I'll be professional when removing then
[13:14] <oCean> @mark #ubuntu csilk also lkj does not understand the concept of being professional, says he will continue swearing etc
[13:15] <bazhang> weird place to put eclipse
[13:35] <bazhang> raven is not watching what others say to him, just repeating every 30 seconds or so
[13:41] <ikonia> popey: you are just stupid with suggestions like "talk to the developer or log a bug to resolve the issue"
[13:57] <bazhang> troll detected
[13:57] <ikonia> just waiting for popey to nod
[13:57] <bazhang> the wink of an eye
[13:58] <ikonia> kudos popey
[13:58] <popey> cowsay meh
[13:58] <ikonia> still, solid effort
[14:14] <bazhang> vbox doesnt use the wifi chip afaik
[14:15] <mneptok> bazhang: it does NAT to the host, IIRC
[14:16] <bazhang> mneptok, yep. but never heard of wifi on a vm
[14:18] <ikonia> there isn't wifi on vm
[14:18] <ikonia> only host/bridging as mneptok states
[14:19] <bazhang> yes I know. sounds like Drecondius does not
[14:19] <ikonia> sounds like he's just making stuff up to be honest
[14:19] <ikonia> "it works fine in a vm"....
[14:20] <mneptok> "It works fine in Windows ..."
[14:20] <ikonia> that's understanable
[14:21]  * mneptok makes a very concerted effort not to bust out a tampon analogy
[14:21] <ikonia> I can see how that may make sense to people
[14:21] <mneptok> "These work great for my wife, but ...."
[14:24] <mneptok> ikonia: you mixed up those 2 users.
[14:24] <ikonia> totally
[14:25] <bazhang> google this banforward to ##google
[14:26] <mneptok> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kickban
[14:26] <mneptok> >:)
[14:27] <bazhang> evil unmasked!
[14:27] <LjL> i don't like what's going on, but maybe i'm just being weird as usual
[14:28] <ikonia> no, it's my fault
[14:28] <ikonia> bad call
 I don't understand the mentaility where sayign "I'm not sure, try Google" deserves snide remarks. If that's the case I don't want anything to do with such a backwards, unhelpful, garbage channel.
[14:28] <bazhang> irony defined
[14:30] <LjL> i think that "google it" was innocent enough, since he didn't know and was already in the middle of trying to help them (it wasn't an outright "google your problem"). after being attacked about it by several people immediately, i can sort of understand he's angry now.
[14:30] <ikonia> totally, it was my fault
[14:31] <ikonia> I thought it was the same guy getting help - it was me that blew it out of proportion
[14:35] <bazhang> LjL, have to disagree. google it is never a good choice, then when told it was unhelpful by the person asking the original question, he said: if you are going to be snide, then no help from me
[14:35] <bazhang> goodle it was never helpful in the first place
[14:35] <bazhang> -g +d
[14:35] <bazhang> whoops reverse that
[14:36] <LjL> yes, "i'm not sure, google it" is kind of unhelpful, but in that case, "i'm not sure" would have been as much. he just innocently added the google suggestion.
[14:36] <bazhang> just say nothing. I do it all the time
[14:37] <LjL> bazhang: say nothing, when he was already actively helping the user? just terminate the conversation? a wonderful idea
[14:37] <LjL> but whatever, if you people are going to bash everyone in a gang whenever someone breaks a rule innocently, be my guests, and see the channel deteriorate
[14:37] <LjL> make discussions about these petty things last 10 minutes in #ubuntu and subtract from support
[14:37] <bazhang> some users get in a mode where they have to answer every question
[14:39] <oCean> I think we should more actively point helpers to the supportersguide
[14:40] <oCean> ofcourse there will still be lots of users ignoring everything in that guide, and do whatever they want, suggest whatever they see fit
[14:41] <ikonia> LjL: it was totally my fault
[14:42] <LjL> ikonia: it's ok, i'm a bit upset about the ganging up on him, not about any single intervention
[14:42] <ikonia> LjL: yes, but people jumped in as I blew it out of proportion as I got the users mixed up
[15:01] <mneptok> DeltaHeavy needs to stop ignoring the rules, justifying doing so, and promising to repeat the behavior, even if it means PM.
[15:02] <mneptok> OK, they got frustrated over the Google thing. but the attitude sucks.
[15:03] <oCean> agreed
[15:04] <bazhang> lordie he's pushing it
[15:09] <bazhang> that was a five second google of the error message
[15:15] <mneptok> why is it that the people looking for stuff like aircrack and metasploit are, almost universally, the least experienced people?
[15:16] <mneptok> to me it's like screaming, "I'M A FREAKIN' JET PILOT!" and then looking at a plane and saying, "OK, so where's the door on this thing?"
[15:17] <bazhang> heh. or the backtrack users
[15:17]  * mneptok nods furiously
[15:17] <Pricey> The documentation for aircrack is pretty awesome, lots of use cases/examples.
[15:17] <bazhang> auto root irc but the support channel bans root irc
[15:17] <Pricey> bazhang: You couldn't make that up.
[15:18] <mneptok> "I really need to get this running for my doctoral dissertation. Any help explaining what an 'MBR' is would be appreciated."
[15:18] <bazhang> Pricey, funny right? and it's not even supposed to be installed. nice to see you , by the way
[15:18] <Pricey> bazhang: You too, hope all is well :-)
[15:19] <bazhang> can't complain! but sometimes I still do
[15:21] <oCean> mneptok: they are probably the audience that assume the movie Swordfish is an educational documentary on how to hack
 i have no access to pastebin.com due to court orders, the site says. what is it?
[15:25] <bazhang> what?
[15:25] <bazhang> is pastebin the new megaupload?
[15:28] <oCean> for what, ascii movies?
[15:37] <jrib> Pricey: when you're done getting jdownloader, I need a million dollars
[15:37] <jrib> P Pricey
[15:38] <oCean> oh, is it request time?
[15:42] <Pricey> oCean: http://files.myopera.com/pjkix/albums/95819/no-pony.jpg
[15:44] <mneptok> oCean: telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
[15:44] <oCean> mneptok: no, not again :p
[15:45] <mneptok> oCean: so don't say things like "ASCII movies?"  ;)
[15:59] <oCean> not his first fb mark in BT
[17:37] <DFrostedWang> knome u r an assbag
[17:38] <knome> DFrostedWang, you were redirected here because you didn't change your nick when i asked your several times
[17:38] <DFrostedWang> My name isn't offensive
[17:38] <knome> and i see you are not willing to discuss the removal of the ban now
[17:38] <DFrostedWang> Futurama is PG-13.
[17:39] <knome> #xubuntu is not futurama
[17:39] <DFrostedWang> But my name is from that.
[17:39] <knome> i don't care where your nick is from. in #xubuntu, you should follow the channel guidelines and code of conduct
[17:40] <DFrostedWang> It's PG-13!
[17:40] <knome> !guidelines > DFrostedWang
[17:40] <knome> !coc > DFrostedWang
[17:41] <knome> DFrostedWang, please read those, and try to be cooperative, and we can resolve the ban for now
[17:41] <knome> DFrostedWang, once you've done reading, tell us
[17:51] <knome> DFrostedWang, you still reading, or just idling?
[17:52] <DFrostedWang> I don't see how my name is against the rules.
[17:52] <knome> DFrostedWang, did you read the guidelines?
[17:53] <DFrostedWang> Yes.
[17:53] <knome> DFrostedWang, re-read sections "language and subject" and "don't be annoying"
[17:56] <DFrostedWang> I reread them and I think your just an assbag. My name isn't offensive.
[17:56] <knome> okay, in that case, please leave this channel and come back in 24 hours, if you want to resolve the ban then
[17:59] <oCean> DFrostedWang: wrong choice
[17:59] <oCean> (to start ranting in #ubuntu channel that is)
[18:27] <Fuchs> obvious troll is obvious
[18:37] <Myrtti> you're free to catalyse
[18:42] <Fuchs> I tried to start, then I got called off to somewhere else
[18:42] <Fuchs> thats why I handed you a cupcake :)
[18:46] <oCean> why is it suddenly troll season?
[19:03] <Flannel> oCean: schools are getting out for summer
[19:06] <oCean> * ICWeiner (~logankemp@184.52.57.131) has joined #ubuntu
[19:08] <popey> Flannel: really?  where?
[19:09] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-offtopic IloveBSDandWindo A troll
[19:10] <oCean> What is LinuxMonkey trying to add?
[19:11] <Flannel> popey: What?
[19:11] <popey> 20:03:52 <+Flannel> oCean: schools are getting out for summer
[19:11] <Flannel> popey: Was that rhetorical?
[19:11] <popey> no
[19:11] <Flannel> oh.
[19:12] <oCean> here it isn't summer, yet
[19:12] <popey> well, indeed
[19:12] <Flannel> Well, most universities are finishing up, this past week or the week before, or next week.  High schools will be finishing in the next few weeks.
[19:13] <popey> oh ok
[19:13] <popey> my kids have 7 weeks or so left
[19:13] <popey> and they finish early
[19:14] <oCean> Sometimes I wish I was still in school
[19:14] <oCean> But when I *was* in school...
[19:14] <popey> same here
[19:49] <mcloy> suggestion: may be points system for  ubuntu helpers and ranking as they have more point migh be helpfull in helper stats and their permostion, finding better members and they get motivated.  (some auto system by which user gives a point. saying !thankyou <name> . what ever suits you)
[19:49] <mcloy> + other grounds be considered too.
[19:50] <AlanBell> there are parts of the Ubuntu support ecosystem like that, askubuntu.com in particular
[19:51] <AlanBell> if you like that syle of support then maybe that would be a more suitable place for you to contribute
[20:25] <genii-around> Hm
[20:45] <IdleOne> The FCC does not regulate the channels in the Ubuntu name space, just because your stupid government thinks it is OK to poison the children of America with offensive language and pretend that it is ok does not mean it is in the Ubuntu community.
[20:46] <IdleOne> This was a public service announcement brought to you by your friendly Ubuntu IRC op IdleOne.
[20:48] <genii-around> The FCC wants to regulate IRC channels ?
[20:50] <IdleOne> no
[20:50] <Jordan_U> genii-around: No, but people often complain about our policies not matching those of the FCC or sometimes claim that they are going to file a complaint against us with the FCC as a threat.
[20:50] <genii-around> Aaaaaaaah OK. I guess I came in after that was being mentioned
[20:50] <IdleOne> Because Futurama allows dumb words that we consider offensive so we should allow them also
[20:52] <genii-around> I guess some people think the laws of the USA apply to all of the internet
[23:41] <IdleOne> hello dedalux
[23:42] <IdleOne> dedalux: Anything I can help you with?