/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/05/28/#ubuntu-tv.txt

bobweaverhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8niAEu-nMLw00:28
bobweavernew video showing off new QT code and also the new lenes00:28
bobweaverHere is a video of the You Tube lens working http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj3bAP9Ad3800:37
mhall119bobweaver: new Qt code for what?01:21
bobweaveralot mhall11901:21
mhall119bobweaver: video is private01:21
bobweaveryeah I am uploading with music01:22
mhall119bobweaver: I hope you're not building off the CES demo code01:22
mhall119cause that's all going away01:22
bobweaverHere is the new youtube lens01:22
bobweaverthe one that I have ben working on for a day or so01:22
bobweavermhall119,  is there other code and it is not going to be QT ?01:23
bobweaverhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-lM4d_-px001:23
mhall119bobweaver: all the CES demo code is going to be re-written for Unity 3d and NUX, without Qt01:23
bobweaverwhen is this going to happen and who do I talk to ?01:24
bobweaver12.04 ?01:24
bobweaversorry01:24
bobweaver12.10 ?01:24
mhall119bobweaver: talk to jhodapp01:24
mhall119since the decision was made to standardize on Unity 3d for all form factors01:25
bobweavermhall119,  here is all the lens working http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvgEhluz6E8&01:25
mhall119we need to port the TV work to Unity 3d01:25
bobweaverso it justs needs to be on 3-d for base ?01:25
mhall119yeah, which means in the compiz plugin for Unity Shell01:26
mhall119for the scopes and lenses it won't matter01:26
mhall119but if you're making Qt changes, that sounds like you're modifying Unity 2d, which doesn't have a future now01:26
bobweaveryeah01:26
bobweaverI just want this too work01:26
bobweaver:)01:26
mhall119me too :)01:26
mhall119but I don't want to you do a lot of work that won't make it into the final product01:27
bobweaverI can alter 3d also there is a unity 3-d shell ?01:27
mhall119yeah, let me get you a link01:27
bobweaverIt is ok I do this for fun :)01:27
bobweaverThanks **01:27
mhall119http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity/01:27
mhall119the sourcecode layout has recently changed, so the documentation on that is a bit old, but everything else should still apply01:28
bobweavercool01:29
bobweaverI guess that I will start to port that stuff and make shell or should I just use what I got and wait for other upstream to come in ?01:29
bobweaverping jhodapp  When you get a minute could we please talk :)01:30
mhall119ask jhodapp who is working on the port, then get with them to see what you can do01:31
bobweavermhall119,  seems like unity-core and ./plugins/ubuntu-tv would be the wway to go01:32
mhall119bobweaver: /plugins/ are the Compiz plugins01:32
bobweaverup that would run launcher01:33
mhall119I'm not too familiar with the technical parts of this, but it may go into /plugins/unityshell01:33
bobweaverand applets01:33
bobweaverthen the unity-core >> ./UnityCore/ubuntu tv01:33
bobweaverfor the form factor tv  for both ?01:34
bobweaverso would be able to make launcher and appplets fancy fancy with as compiz plugins01:35
mhall119that much I don't know01:35
mhall119jhodapp and develoeprs in #ubuntu-unity would be better able to answer those questions01:35
bobweaverthanks01:35
* mhall119 is merely a community manager and part-time python hacker01:36
* bobweaver thisnks that mhall119, is merely Awesome and Is glad that paths have crossed :>) 01:38
mhall119:)01:38
bobweavercould release this one as a alpha testing subject and then in repo just mark for package upgrade01:39
bobweaveror even make a custom do-realsease01:39
bobweaverer spelling01:40
mhall119bobweaver: if you do, just let people know that it's all going to be replaced soon01:40
bobweaverCould call it the community alpha edition ?01:41
mhall119well we're not going to have a separate community version01:41
bobweaverit and in Ubiquity have like tons of warrings :)01:41
mhall119why not call it "bobweaver's Ubuntu TV hacking experiment"?01:42
bobweaverI do not want my name on it I just do this because I want it to work and my GF wants Ubuntu TV and Phone01:43
bobweaverand its FUN01:43
mhall119I wish I knew enough C/C++ to partake in this fun01:43
bobweaverI will just make into package01:43
bobweaverand then hack on  something with jhodapp  or just wait for upstream imporant part is that there is a working version01:44
bobweaverand that if Ubuntu is going to any more trade shows they can show it off01:45
bobweaveror not IDC I am in this for the fun and the enjoyment that I get If I can give back for what I have recived then great if not then great all in all I am just happy to have this stuff work01:46
bobweavernow if newlegg would send me  the right dvr card then I would be golden01:46
bobweaverthen to get remote hacking that will be fun could turn the android into the remote  *:)01:47
mhall119bobweaver: I don't know of any upcoming TV demos, but jhodapp or whomever has been tasked with getting the port finished will be able to tell you about any impending deadlines01:49
bobweaverv.cool I am more then willing to help and if some one would foot the bill I would go straight to indiana and help from there but would need hotel and what not.01:50
bobweaverI have no clue how something like that would happen @_@01:50
mhall119I don't think there is one place where the work happens01:50
mhall119like most Ubuntu projects, the people involved are spread all over the world01:51
bobweavercool yeah I am just a up and coming dev01:51
mhall119one who is doing some pretty cool work too01:51
bobweaverbut I learn too adaptation very easy01:51
bobweaverbut am a horrible speller01:52
bobweaverlol01:52
mhall119lucking compilers have syntax checkers :)01:52
bobweaveryeah that is why I am more then happy to move away from QT01:54
jhodapphi bobweaver, we are in the very early stages of porting (I assume you are referring to porting the Ubuntu TV experience to Unity3D?)03:17
jhodappbobweaver: all I have done so far in this early effort is to break the media player out into a separate application, but still as a unity2d app03:17
bobweavercan I ask you some questions03:18
bobweaverIs there anywhere that I can read about blueprints and or how I may be able to see what the picture is ?03:18
bobweaverpicture for the future that is03:18
bobweaverLike porting to unity 3d03:19
bobweaverI guess is the important part03:19
jhodappthere isn't too much yet03:26
bobweaverok03:26
jhodappit will start to come together soon, but it's still very early03:26
bobweaverwell if you ever want some help you know how to get a-hold of me03:26
jhodappwe have the two blueprints from UDS, that's it03:26
jhodappthanks bobweaver, I appreciate that. Your enthusiasm for the project is great!03:27
bobweaverthat is in the topic correct03:27
jhodapphmm, I don't see it03:27
bobweaverjhodapp,  you have seen the videos ?03:28
jhodappwhat videos?03:28
bobweaverhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvgEhluz6E803:29
bobweaverpart one ^^ I have sense cleaned up the ui more setting images to 230 tvpix03:29
bobweaverthen I have wored on porting the 3rd party you tube lens03:29
bobweaverthat you can see at this linke03:30
jhodappwow, you've been busy!03:30
bobweaverhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-lM4d_-px003:30
jhodappvery nice work03:30
jhodappbtw, I am in the states, yes03:31
bobweaverkah03:31
bobweaveryou are more then welcome to get a hold of me at any time. I will be pushing more code tonight03:31
jhodappyou're working on some lenses it looks like?03:32
bobweaverYeah I added all the lens that I thought would be good for a tv03:32
bobweaverand that are simple and not hard to use03:32
bobweaverthe youtube one is the crazy one that is still giving me a little bit of trouble03:32
jhodappexcellent, well it's great to have you trying some things for sure!03:33
jhodappI have to run for the evening, but we'll talk some more in the near future03:33
bobweaverbecause it ran on a lens called "video-lens" and the default video-lens would crash together you I had to rewrite03:34
bobweaverok cya03:34
jhodapplater!03:34
cob-olp1hi05:43
cob-olp1I still try to install ubuntu-tv on my pandaboard, but I'm stuck on this http://pastebin.com/V0bgAp3905:43
cob-olp1I use 11.10 release05:43
cob-olp1can please somebody help me?05:44
bobweaverI will look05:57
bobweaverpaste is not loading05:58
cob-olp1strange06:03
cob-olp1you cannot open it?06:03
bobweaveryeah it works now my cpu is under high pressure06:04
bobweaverbase is armel is installed ? 11.10 ?06:05
cob-olp1yes06:05
cob-olp1I have 11.1006:06
bobweaveryou may want to try my branch06:06
bobweaverbut I do not have all lens pushed yrt06:06
cob-olp1your branch of ubuntu tv?06:06
cob-olp1should I try it on 11.1006:07
bobweaveryou did build depends  ?06:07
cob-olp1or 12.0406:07
bobweaverI have on both but 11.10 works better06:07
bobweaverbecause of unity 406:07
bobweaverand not unity 506:07
cob-olp1that is why I'm trying on 11.1006:07
bobweaveryou did build depens ?06:08
bobweaverfor unity 2d ?06:08
cob-olp1not sure06:08
bobweaversudo apt-get build-depends unity-2d06:08
bobweaveryou have to get the depends for unity 2d before you can complile06:09
bobweaverapt-cache show unity-2d06:09
bobweaverand look at the Depends lines06:09
bobweaverall them programs have to be installed 1st before you can complie06:09
bobweaverthat is what build-dep sorry06:11
bobweaversudo apt-get build-dep  unity-2d06:11
bobweaverthat is correct ^^06:11
cob-olp1ok, I will do this06:12
bobweaveryou may also want to look at my branch as I have done alot work for other launches ect06:13
cob-olp1however, unity-2d is iunstalled from the start06:13
cob-olp1why I have to build-dep?06:13
bobweaverok you have to build the "Dependence" of the Unity 2d or it will not complie because iot depends on them programs to complie06:14
cob-olp1you mean that if I want to build unity-2d on my own I have to have all the dependences06:16
bobweavercorrect06:16
cob-olp1because what I have now is only pre-prepared package06:16
cob-olp1not built by me?06:16
bobweaverwhere did you get your upstream code ?06:17
bobweaverlp s-team ?06:17
bobweaverbut to be 100% honest with you I know little of armel06:18
cob-olp1it looks that I am using one from s-team06:20
bobweaverbut I do know a little about ubuntu tv ;)   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvgEhluz6E806:20
bobweaveryou will see that there is  more launchers and lens but you would have to install the lens also06:21
bobweaverwould be best to stay with s-team06:21
bobweaveryou where are you directions that you are reading ?06:21
cob-olp1the best what I have founds was some japanese page06:25
cob-olp1but now I cannot find this article on it06:25
cob-olp1this was the only one that was concerning pandaboard+ubuntu-tv06:26
cob-olp1other tutorials are for ubuntu-tv on pc06:27
cob-olp1by the way, it looks and works great on your video06:28
bobweaveryeah I have no clue on how armel works I dont have the hardware :(06:40
cob-olp1after build-dep and reboot I have no panels06:41
bobweaverthat is ok06:41
cob-olp1they appear for a moment, but then dissapears06:41
bobweaveryou are going to get ride of them in the end righ t06:42
bobweavercd ~/ubuntu-tv06:42
bobweavercmake .06:42
bobweaverdoes it build now ?06:42
cob-olp1so I have to switch to terminal06:42
bobweaveryes06:42
bobweaveror tty1 or what ever it is that you can get shell06:43
cob-olp1goes further06:43
cob-olp1but "package unity-core-4.0 not found"06:44
bobweaverOo06:44
bobweaverthat must be installed06:44
bobweaverIs there any way that you could install pastebinit and run dpkg-query -l |pastebinit06:46
bobweaverthen give me the link so I can see what is installed06:46
cob-olponce again I'm stuck on dependencies07:41
bobweaverso installed lib-unity-4.007:42
bobweaversorry unity-core-4.007:43
cob-olpI need unity-services and libunity-core-4.0-4dbgsym, but It looks that there are no versions that are compatible with each other07:43
bobweaveryou can find all the depends if you use apt-cache show <name os package >07:44
bobweavers|os|of07:44
cob-olpI know the dependencies08:24
cob-olpbut I cannot solve them08:24
cob-olpdo you know which version of unity core should I install08:29
cob-olp?08:29
cob-olpfor example this one http://pastebin.com/015zqMU008:44
cob-olphow can I fix this if there is no unity-services=4.24.0.2011.10-0linaro308:45
cob-olpI will try once again on clean linaro 11.1209:01
cob-olpshould I start from apt-get build-dep unity-2d?09:08
bobweaverthere is a wiki have you looked it over ?09:08
bobweaverhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing09:08
cob-olpyes09:10
cob-olpI will try it once again09:11
cob-olpI don't remember what problem I had with it09:11
cob-olpI am not sure if sudo apt-get build-dep unity-2d will not upgrade my unity to 509:15
bobweaveryou should not use 4.0 or video lens will not work09:19
cob-olphmm09:19
bobweaverhow does arm work you have to compile everything to board ?09:20
cob-olpI thought that I switched to 11.10 because of unity 409:20
bobweaverwhat about opengl09:20
bobweaverls /usr/share/unity/09:20
bobweaveris there a 4 or a 5 ?09:20
cob-olpat the moment I cannot check because I am installing linaro once again on my sd card09:22
cob-olpI am not sure about opengl09:22
cob-olpI assume that there are some additional packages09:22
bobweaveryes I do not know about arm09:23
cob-olpsudo apt-get install libegl1-sgx-omap4-dev libgles2-sgx-omap4-dev09:23
bobweaverOo09:23
cob-olphttp://d.hatena.ne.jp/kinneko/searchdiary?word=ubuntu-tv&.submit=%B8%A1%BA%F7&type=detail09:24
cob-olpI have found this japanese tutorial09:24
cob-olpI remember that some time ago I switched to unity 4 because there were some problems with 509:25
cob-olpthis is why I installed 11.10 instead of 12.0309:26
cob-olpbut in this tutorial they are using 12.0109:26
bobweaverYeah I am not sure I have no arm devices and maybe qemu will run arm but I dont even know where to start with that09:28
cob-olpmaybe I will install 12.01 and try this Japanese tutorial09:30
cob-olpI am not sure if tried with this version09:30
bobweaverwhat is 12.01 ?09:31
bobweaver12.04 ?09:31
cob-olplinaro09:31
bobweaverahh09:31
bobweaverI am going to try arm I just DL it09:33
bobweaverall 2.2 gigs of it Oo09:34
cob-olpehh, now I have to wait for 11.10 to upload on my sd card09:35
cob-olpand after that I will switch to 12.01...09:35
cob-olpwhich version are you going to try?09:36
bobweaver11.1009:37
bobweaverit says that it is called mk5 armel IDK if it is going to work09:38
cob-olpok, I have clean linaro 11.1009:41
cob-olpI tried to build-dep unity-2d09:57
bobweaverPlease keep in mind that I know nothing of or about arm it might take me days there was someone that built it all ready I seen a video of a dude in califorina but that is it10:00
bobweaverbut I do know that things dont build with out the right tools to build them10:02
cob-olpI am sure that some people managed to run ubuntu tv on panda10:02
bobweaverhow much are panda boards and where do you get them ect10:04
popeyrsalveti has had it working on pandaboard I believe10:04
popeybobweaver: google ☺10:04
popeyhttp://pandaboard.org/content/buy10:04
cob-olpyes, I know that rsalveti made this10:05
bobweaverHi popey  & thanks10:05
cob-olpbut there is no step by step tutorial10:05
bobweavergezz there are none in stock and what I see on google is $$10:07
bobweaverno soup for bob10:07
cob-olpin rsalveti article everything seems to be very easy10:08
cob-olphttp://rsalveti.wordpress.com/2012/01/10/ubuntu-tv-ui-at-pandaboard-and-next-steps/10:08
cob-olpbut I try to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing as he wrote10:09
cob-olpand I am stuck on first step now :)10:09
cob-olpI will be back in one hour10:10
bobweavergezz good luck cob-olp10:11
bobweaverpopey,  where do I get android code ?10:12
bobweaverI take it that it is also QT ?10:12
popeyubuntu tv isnt based on android10:12
popeywhat android code are you referring to?10:13
bobweaverI know that but is the ui for ubuntu android10:13
bobweaverall the videos that are online10:13
popeyah, "Ubuntu for Android"?10:13
bobweaverYes10:13
popeyThat's not yet public.10:13
bobweaversorry about the confusion10:13
bobweaver:(10:14
bobweaverI do not have android yet anyhow but my GF is getting one soon and she wants it10:15
bobweaverbummer .. will jsut have to wait and see what happens10:15
bobweaverthanks for the info :)10:15
popeynp10:15
popeysorry we don't have anything to share at the moment10:15
cob-olpUbuntu on Android?11:01
cob-olpyou mean Ubuntu instead Android on Android phone/tablet?11:02

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