| bobweaver | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8niAEu-nMLw | 00:28 |
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| bobweaver | new video showing off new QT code and also the new lenes | 00:28 |
| bobweaver | Here is a video of the You Tube lens working http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj3bAP9Ad38 | 00:37 |
| mhall119 | bobweaver: new Qt code for what? | 01:21 |
| bobweaver | alot mhall119 | 01:21 |
| mhall119 | bobweaver: video is private | 01:21 |
| bobweaver | yeah I am uploading with music | 01:22 |
| mhall119 | bobweaver: I hope you're not building off the CES demo code | 01:22 |
| mhall119 | cause that's all going away | 01:22 |
| bobweaver | Here is the new youtube lens | 01:22 |
| bobweaver | the one that I have ben working on for a day or so | 01:22 |
| bobweaver | mhall119, is there other code and it is not going to be QT ? | 01:23 |
| bobweaver | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-lM4d_-px0 | 01:23 |
| mhall119 | bobweaver: all the CES demo code is going to be re-written for Unity 3d and NUX, without Qt | 01:23 |
| bobweaver | when is this going to happen and who do I talk to ? | 01:24 |
| bobweaver | 12.04 ? | 01:24 |
| bobweaver | sorry | 01:24 |
| bobweaver | 12.10 ? | 01:24 |
| mhall119 | bobweaver: talk to jhodapp | 01:24 |
| mhall119 | since the decision was made to standardize on Unity 3d for all form factors | 01:25 |
| bobweaver | mhall119, here is all the lens working http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvgEhluz6E8& | 01:25 |
| mhall119 | we need to port the TV work to Unity 3d | 01:25 |
| bobweaver | so it justs needs to be on 3-d for base ? | 01:25 |
| mhall119 | yeah, which means in the compiz plugin for Unity Shell | 01:26 |
| mhall119 | for the scopes and lenses it won't matter | 01:26 |
| mhall119 | but if you're making Qt changes, that sounds like you're modifying Unity 2d, which doesn't have a future now | 01:26 |
| bobweaver | yeah | 01:26 |
| bobweaver | I just want this too work | 01:26 |
| bobweaver | :) | 01:26 |
| mhall119 | me too :) | 01:26 |
| mhall119 | but I don't want to you do a lot of work that won't make it into the final product | 01:27 |
| bobweaver | I can alter 3d also there is a unity 3-d shell ? | 01:27 |
| mhall119 | yeah, let me get you a link | 01:27 |
| bobweaver | It is ok I do this for fun :) | 01:27 |
| bobweaver | Thanks ** | 01:27 |
| mhall119 | http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity/ | 01:27 |
| mhall119 | the sourcecode layout has recently changed, so the documentation on that is a bit old, but everything else should still apply | 01:28 |
| bobweaver | cool | 01:29 |
| bobweaver | I guess that I will start to port that stuff and make shell or should I just use what I got and wait for other upstream to come in ? | 01:29 |
| bobweaver | ping jhodapp When you get a minute could we please talk :) | 01:30 |
| mhall119 | ask jhodapp who is working on the port, then get with them to see what you can do | 01:31 |
| bobweaver | mhall119, seems like unity-core and ./plugins/ubuntu-tv would be the wway to go | 01:32 |
| mhall119 | bobweaver: /plugins/ are the Compiz plugins | 01:32 |
| bobweaver | up that would run launcher | 01:33 |
| mhall119 | I'm not too familiar with the technical parts of this, but it may go into /plugins/unityshell | 01:33 |
| bobweaver | and applets | 01:33 |
| bobweaver | then the unity-core >> ./UnityCore/ubuntu tv | 01:33 |
| bobweaver | for the form factor tv for both ? | 01:34 |
| bobweaver | so would be able to make launcher and appplets fancy fancy with as compiz plugins | 01:35 |
| mhall119 | that much I don't know | 01:35 |
| mhall119 | jhodapp and develoeprs in #ubuntu-unity would be better able to answer those questions | 01:35 |
| bobweaver | thanks | 01:35 |
| * mhall119 is merely a community manager and part-time python hacker | 01:36 | |
| * bobweaver thisnks that mhall119, is merely Awesome and Is glad that paths have crossed :>) | 01:38 | |
| mhall119 | :) | 01:38 |
| bobweaver | could release this one as a alpha testing subject and then in repo just mark for package upgrade | 01:39 |
| bobweaver | or even make a custom do-realsease | 01:39 |
| bobweaver | er spelling | 01:40 |
| mhall119 | bobweaver: if you do, just let people know that it's all going to be replaced soon | 01:40 |
| bobweaver | Could call it the community alpha edition ? | 01:41 |
| mhall119 | well we're not going to have a separate community version | 01:41 |
| bobweaver | it and in Ubiquity have like tons of warrings :) | 01:41 |
| mhall119 | why not call it "bobweaver's Ubuntu TV hacking experiment"? | 01:42 |
| bobweaver | I do not want my name on it I just do this because I want it to work and my GF wants Ubuntu TV and Phone | 01:43 |
| bobweaver | and its FUN | 01:43 |
| mhall119 | I wish I knew enough C/C++ to partake in this fun | 01:43 |
| bobweaver | I will just make into package | 01:43 |
| bobweaver | and then hack on something with jhodapp or just wait for upstream imporant part is that there is a working version | 01:44 |
| bobweaver | and that if Ubuntu is going to any more trade shows they can show it off | 01:45 |
| bobweaver | or not IDC I am in this for the fun and the enjoyment that I get If I can give back for what I have recived then great if not then great all in all I am just happy to have this stuff work | 01:46 |
| bobweaver | now if newlegg would send me the right dvr card then I would be golden | 01:46 |
| bobweaver | then to get remote hacking that will be fun could turn the android into the remote *:) | 01:47 |
| mhall119 | bobweaver: I don't know of any upcoming TV demos, but jhodapp or whomever has been tasked with getting the port finished will be able to tell you about any impending deadlines | 01:49 |
| bobweaver | v.cool I am more then willing to help and if some one would foot the bill I would go straight to indiana and help from there but would need hotel and what not. | 01:50 |
| bobweaver | I have no clue how something like that would happen @_@ | 01:50 |
| mhall119 | I don't think there is one place where the work happens | 01:50 |
| mhall119 | like most Ubuntu projects, the people involved are spread all over the world | 01:51 |
| bobweaver | cool yeah I am just a up and coming dev | 01:51 |
| mhall119 | one who is doing some pretty cool work too | 01:51 |
| bobweaver | but I learn too adaptation very easy | 01:51 |
| bobweaver | but am a horrible speller | 01:52 |
| bobweaver | lol | 01:52 |
| mhall119 | lucking compilers have syntax checkers :) | 01:52 |
| bobweaver | yeah that is why I am more then happy to move away from QT | 01:54 |
| jhodapp | hi bobweaver, we are in the very early stages of porting (I assume you are referring to porting the Ubuntu TV experience to Unity3D?) | 03:17 |
| jhodapp | bobweaver: all I have done so far in this early effort is to break the media player out into a separate application, but still as a unity2d app | 03:17 |
| bobweaver | can I ask you some questions | 03:18 |
| bobweaver | Is there anywhere that I can read about blueprints and or how I may be able to see what the picture is ? | 03:18 |
| bobweaver | picture for the future that is | 03:18 |
| bobweaver | Like porting to unity 3d | 03:19 |
| bobweaver | I guess is the important part | 03:19 |
| jhodapp | there isn't too much yet | 03:26 |
| bobweaver | ok | 03:26 |
| jhodapp | it will start to come together soon, but it's still very early | 03:26 |
| bobweaver | well if you ever want some help you know how to get a-hold of me | 03:26 |
| jhodapp | we have the two blueprints from UDS, that's it | 03:26 |
| jhodapp | thanks bobweaver, I appreciate that. Your enthusiasm for the project is great! | 03:27 |
| bobweaver | that is in the topic correct | 03:27 |
| jhodapp | hmm, I don't see it | 03:27 |
| bobweaver | jhodapp, you have seen the videos ? | 03:28 |
| jhodapp | what videos? | 03:28 |
| bobweaver | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvgEhluz6E8 | 03:29 |
| bobweaver | part one ^^ I have sense cleaned up the ui more setting images to 230 tvpix | 03:29 |
| bobweaver | then I have wored on porting the 3rd party you tube lens | 03:29 |
| bobweaver | that you can see at this linke | 03:30 |
| jhodapp | wow, you've been busy! | 03:30 |
| bobweaver | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-lM4d_-px0 | 03:30 |
| jhodapp | very nice work | 03:30 |
| jhodapp | btw, I am in the states, yes | 03:31 |
| bobweaver | kah | 03:31 |
| bobweaver | you are more then welcome to get a hold of me at any time. I will be pushing more code tonight | 03:31 |
| jhodapp | you're working on some lenses it looks like? | 03:32 |
| bobweaver | Yeah I added all the lens that I thought would be good for a tv | 03:32 |
| bobweaver | and that are simple and not hard to use | 03:32 |
| bobweaver | the youtube one is the crazy one that is still giving me a little bit of trouble | 03:32 |
| jhodapp | excellent, well it's great to have you trying some things for sure! | 03:33 |
| jhodapp | I have to run for the evening, but we'll talk some more in the near future | 03:33 |
| bobweaver | because it ran on a lens called "video-lens" and the default video-lens would crash together you I had to rewrite | 03:34 |
| bobweaver | ok cya | 03:34 |
| jhodapp | later! | 03:34 |
| cob-olp1 | hi | 05:43 |
| cob-olp1 | I still try to install ubuntu-tv on my pandaboard, but I'm stuck on this http://pastebin.com/V0bgAp39 | 05:43 |
| cob-olp1 | I use 11.10 release | 05:43 |
| cob-olp1 | can please somebody help me? | 05:44 |
| bobweaver | I will look | 05:57 |
| bobweaver | paste is not loading | 05:58 |
| cob-olp1 | strange | 06:03 |
| cob-olp1 | you cannot open it? | 06:03 |
| bobweaver | yeah it works now my cpu is under high pressure | 06:04 |
| bobweaver | base is armel is installed ? 11.10 ? | 06:05 |
| cob-olp1 | yes | 06:05 |
| cob-olp1 | I have 11.10 | 06:06 |
| bobweaver | you may want to try my branch | 06:06 |
| bobweaver | but I do not have all lens pushed yrt | 06:06 |
| cob-olp1 | your branch of ubuntu tv? | 06:06 |
| cob-olp1 | should I try it on 11.10 | 06:07 |
| bobweaver | you did build depends ? | 06:07 |
| cob-olp1 | or 12.04 | 06:07 |
| bobweaver | I have on both but 11.10 works better | 06:07 |
| bobweaver | because of unity 4 | 06:07 |
| bobweaver | and not unity 5 | 06:07 |
| cob-olp1 | that is why I'm trying on 11.10 | 06:07 |
| bobweaver | you did build depens ? | 06:08 |
| bobweaver | for unity 2d ? | 06:08 |
| cob-olp1 | not sure | 06:08 |
| bobweaver | sudo apt-get build-depends unity-2d | 06:08 |
| bobweaver | you have to get the depends for unity 2d before you can complile | 06:09 |
| bobweaver | apt-cache show unity-2d | 06:09 |
| bobweaver | and look at the Depends lines | 06:09 |
| bobweaver | all them programs have to be installed 1st before you can complie | 06:09 |
| bobweaver | that is what build-dep sorry | 06:11 |
| bobweaver | sudo apt-get build-dep unity-2d | 06:11 |
| bobweaver | that is correct ^^ | 06:11 |
| cob-olp1 | ok, I will do this | 06:12 |
| bobweaver | you may also want to look at my branch as I have done alot work for other launches ect | 06:13 |
| cob-olp1 | however, unity-2d is iunstalled from the start | 06:13 |
| cob-olp1 | why I have to build-dep? | 06:13 |
| bobweaver | ok you have to build the "Dependence" of the Unity 2d or it will not complie because iot depends on them programs to complie | 06:14 |
| cob-olp1 | you mean that if I want to build unity-2d on my own I have to have all the dependences | 06:16 |
| bobweaver | correct | 06:16 |
| cob-olp1 | because what I have now is only pre-prepared package | 06:16 |
| cob-olp1 | not built by me? | 06:16 |
| bobweaver | where did you get your upstream code ? | 06:17 |
| bobweaver | lp s-team ? | 06:17 |
| bobweaver | but to be 100% honest with you I know little of armel | 06:18 |
| cob-olp1 | it looks that I am using one from s-team | 06:20 |
| bobweaver | but I do know a little about ubuntu tv ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvgEhluz6E8 | 06:20 |
| bobweaver | you will see that there is more launchers and lens but you would have to install the lens also | 06:21 |
| bobweaver | would be best to stay with s-team | 06:21 |
| bobweaver | you where are you directions that you are reading ? | 06:21 |
| cob-olp1 | the best what I have founds was some japanese page | 06:25 |
| cob-olp1 | but now I cannot find this article on it | 06:25 |
| cob-olp1 | this was the only one that was concerning pandaboard+ubuntu-tv | 06:26 |
| cob-olp1 | other tutorials are for ubuntu-tv on pc | 06:27 |
| cob-olp1 | by the way, it looks and works great on your video | 06:28 |
| bobweaver | yeah I have no clue on how armel works I dont have the hardware :( | 06:40 |
| cob-olp1 | after build-dep and reboot I have no panels | 06:41 |
| bobweaver | that is ok | 06:41 |
| cob-olp1 | they appear for a moment, but then dissapears | 06:41 |
| bobweaver | you are going to get ride of them in the end righ t | 06:42 |
| bobweaver | cd ~/ubuntu-tv | 06:42 |
| bobweaver | cmake . | 06:42 |
| bobweaver | does it build now ? | 06:42 |
| cob-olp1 | so I have to switch to terminal | 06:42 |
| bobweaver | yes | 06:42 |
| bobweaver | or tty1 or what ever it is that you can get shell | 06:43 |
| cob-olp1 | goes further | 06:43 |
| cob-olp1 | but "package unity-core-4.0 not found" | 06:44 |
| bobweaver | Oo | 06:44 |
| bobweaver | that must be installed | 06:44 |
| bobweaver | Is there any way that you could install pastebinit and run dpkg-query -l |pastebinit | 06:46 |
| bobweaver | then give me the link so I can see what is installed | 06:46 |
| cob-olp | once again I'm stuck on dependencies | 07:41 |
| bobweaver | so installed lib-unity-4.0 | 07:42 |
| bobweaver | sorry unity-core-4.0 | 07:43 |
| cob-olp | I need unity-services and libunity-core-4.0-4dbgsym, but It looks that there are no versions that are compatible with each other | 07:43 |
| bobweaver | you can find all the depends if you use apt-cache show <name os package > | 07:44 |
| bobweaver | s|os|of | 07:44 |
| cob-olp | I know the dependencies | 08:24 |
| cob-olp | but I cannot solve them | 08:24 |
| cob-olp | do you know which version of unity core should I install | 08:29 |
| cob-olp | ? | 08:29 |
| cob-olp | for example this one http://pastebin.com/015zqMU0 | 08:44 |
| cob-olp | how can I fix this if there is no unity-services=4.24.0.2011.10-0linaro3 | 08:45 |
| cob-olp | I will try once again on clean linaro 11.12 | 09:01 |
| cob-olp | should I start from apt-get build-dep unity-2d? | 09:08 |
| bobweaver | there is a wiki have you looked it over ? | 09:08 |
| bobweaver | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing | 09:08 |
| cob-olp | yes | 09:10 |
| cob-olp | I will try it once again | 09:11 |
| cob-olp | I don't remember what problem I had with it | 09:11 |
| cob-olp | I am not sure if sudo apt-get build-dep unity-2d will not upgrade my unity to 5 | 09:15 |
| bobweaver | you should not use 4.0 or video lens will not work | 09:19 |
| cob-olp | hmm | 09:19 |
| bobweaver | how does arm work you have to compile everything to board ? | 09:20 |
| cob-olp | I thought that I switched to 11.10 because of unity 4 | 09:20 |
| bobweaver | what about opengl | 09:20 |
| bobweaver | ls /usr/share/unity/ | 09:20 |
| bobweaver | is there a 4 or a 5 ? | 09:20 |
| cob-olp | at the moment I cannot check because I am installing linaro once again on my sd card | 09:22 |
| cob-olp | I am not sure about opengl | 09:22 |
| cob-olp | I assume that there are some additional packages | 09:22 |
| bobweaver | yes I do not know about arm | 09:23 |
| cob-olp | sudo apt-get install libegl1-sgx-omap4-dev libgles2-sgx-omap4-dev | 09:23 |
| bobweaver | Oo | 09:23 |
| cob-olp | http://d.hatena.ne.jp/kinneko/searchdiary?word=ubuntu-tv&.submit=%B8%A1%BA%F7&type=detail | 09:24 |
| cob-olp | I have found this japanese tutorial | 09:24 |
| cob-olp | I remember that some time ago I switched to unity 4 because there were some problems with 5 | 09:25 |
| cob-olp | this is why I installed 11.10 instead of 12.03 | 09:26 |
| cob-olp | but in this tutorial they are using 12.01 | 09:26 |
| bobweaver | Yeah I am not sure I have no arm devices and maybe qemu will run arm but I dont even know where to start with that | 09:28 |
| cob-olp | maybe I will install 12.01 and try this Japanese tutorial | 09:30 |
| cob-olp | I am not sure if tried with this version | 09:30 |
| bobweaver | what is 12.01 ? | 09:31 |
| bobweaver | 12.04 ? | 09:31 |
| cob-olp | linaro | 09:31 |
| bobweaver | ahh | 09:31 |
| bobweaver | I am going to try arm I just DL it | 09:33 |
| bobweaver | all 2.2 gigs of it Oo | 09:34 |
| cob-olp | ehh, now I have to wait for 11.10 to upload on my sd card | 09:35 |
| cob-olp | and after that I will switch to 12.01... | 09:35 |
| cob-olp | which version are you going to try? | 09:36 |
| bobweaver | 11.10 | 09:37 |
| bobweaver | it says that it is called mk5 armel IDK if it is going to work | 09:38 |
| cob-olp | ok, I have clean linaro 11.10 | 09:41 |
| cob-olp | I tried to build-dep unity-2d | 09:57 |
| bobweaver | Please keep in mind that I know nothing of or about arm it might take me days there was someone that built it all ready I seen a video of a dude in califorina but that is it | 10:00 |
| bobweaver | but I do know that things dont build with out the right tools to build them | 10:02 |
| cob-olp | I am sure that some people managed to run ubuntu tv on panda | 10:02 |
| bobweaver | how much are panda boards and where do you get them ect | 10:04 |
| popey | rsalveti has had it working on pandaboard I believe | 10:04 |
| popey | bobweaver: google ☺ | 10:04 |
| popey | http://pandaboard.org/content/buy | 10:04 |
| cob-olp | yes, I know that rsalveti made this | 10:05 |
| bobweaver | Hi popey & thanks | 10:05 |
| cob-olp | but there is no step by step tutorial | 10:05 |
| bobweaver | gezz there are none in stock and what I see on google is $$ | 10:07 |
| bobweaver | no soup for bob | 10:07 |
| cob-olp | in rsalveti article everything seems to be very easy | 10:08 |
| cob-olp | http://rsalveti.wordpress.com/2012/01/10/ubuntu-tv-ui-at-pandaboard-and-next-steps/ | 10:08 |
| cob-olp | but I try to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing as he wrote | 10:09 |
| cob-olp | and I am stuck on first step now :) | 10:09 |
| cob-olp | I will be back in one hour | 10:10 |
| bobweaver | gezz good luck cob-olp | 10:11 |
| bobweaver | popey, where do I get android code ? | 10:12 |
| bobweaver | I take it that it is also QT ? | 10:12 |
| popey | ubuntu tv isnt based on android | 10:12 |
| popey | what android code are you referring to? | 10:13 |
| bobweaver | I know that but is the ui for ubuntu android | 10:13 |
| bobweaver | all the videos that are online | 10:13 |
| popey | ah, "Ubuntu for Android"? | 10:13 |
| bobweaver | Yes | 10:13 |
| popey | That's not yet public. | 10:13 |
| bobweaver | sorry about the confusion | 10:13 |
| bobweaver | :( | 10:14 |
| bobweaver | I do not have android yet anyhow but my GF is getting one soon and she wants it | 10:15 |
| bobweaver | bummer .. will jsut have to wait and see what happens | 10:15 |
| bobweaver | thanks for the info :) | 10:15 |
| popey | np | 10:15 |
| popey | sorry we don't have anything to share at the moment | 10:15 |
| cob-olp | Ubuntu on Android? | 11:01 |
| cob-olp | you mean Ubuntu instead Android on Android phone/tablet? | 11:02 |
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