[00:28] <bobweaver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8niAEu-nMLw
[00:28] <bobweaver> new video showing off new QT code and also the new lenes
[00:37] <bobweaver> Here is a video of the You Tube lens working http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj3bAP9Ad38
[01:21] <mhall119> bobweaver: new Qt code for what?
[01:21] <bobweaver> alot mhall119
[01:21] <mhall119> bobweaver: video is private
[01:22] <bobweaver> yeah I am uploading with music
[01:22] <mhall119> bobweaver: I hope you're not building off the CES demo code
[01:22] <mhall119> cause that's all going away
[01:22] <bobweaver> Here is the new youtube lens
[01:22] <bobweaver> the one that I have ben working on for a day or so
[01:23] <bobweaver> mhall119,  is there other code and it is not going to be QT ?
[01:23] <bobweaver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-lM4d_-px0
[01:23] <mhall119> bobweaver: all the CES demo code is going to be re-written for Unity 3d and NUX, without Qt
[01:24] <bobweaver> when is this going to happen and who do I talk to ?
[01:24] <bobweaver> 12.04 ?
[01:24] <bobweaver> sorry
[01:24] <bobweaver> 12.10 ?
[01:24] <mhall119> bobweaver: talk to jhodapp
[01:25] <mhall119> since the decision was made to standardize on Unity 3d for all form factors
[01:25] <bobweaver> mhall119,  here is all the lens working http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvgEhluz6E8&
[01:25] <mhall119> we need to port the TV work to Unity 3d
[01:25] <bobweaver> so it justs needs to be on 3-d for base ?
[01:26] <mhall119> yeah, which means in the compiz plugin for Unity Shell
[01:26] <mhall119> for the scopes and lenses it won't matter
[01:26] <mhall119> but if you're making Qt changes, that sounds like you're modifying Unity 2d, which doesn't have a future now
[01:26] <bobweaver> yeah
[01:26] <bobweaver> I just want this too work
[01:26] <bobweaver> :)
[01:26] <mhall119> me too :)
[01:27] <mhall119> but I don't want to you do a lot of work that won't make it into the final product
[01:27] <bobweaver> I can alter 3d also there is a unity 3-d shell ?
[01:27] <mhall119> yeah, let me get you a link
[01:27] <bobweaver> It is ok I do this for fun :)
[01:27] <bobweaver> Thanks **
[01:27] <mhall119> http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity/
[01:28] <mhall119> the sourcecode layout has recently changed, so the documentation on that is a bit old, but everything else should still apply
[01:29] <bobweaver> cool
[01:29] <bobweaver> I guess that I will start to port that stuff and make shell or should I just use what I got and wait for other upstream to come in ?
[01:30] <bobweaver> ping jhodapp  When you get a minute could we please talk :)
[01:31] <mhall119> ask jhodapp who is working on the port, then get with them to see what you can do
[01:32] <bobweaver> mhall119,  seems like unity-core and ./plugins/ubuntu-tv would be the wway to go
[01:32] <mhall119> bobweaver: /plugins/ are the Compiz plugins
[01:33] <bobweaver> up that would run launcher
[01:33] <mhall119> I'm not too familiar with the technical parts of this, but it may go into /plugins/unityshell
[01:33] <bobweaver> and applets
[01:33] <bobweaver> then the unity-core >> ./UnityCore/ubuntu tv
[01:34] <bobweaver> for the form factor tv  for both ?
[01:35] <bobweaver> so would be able to make launcher and appplets fancy fancy with as compiz plugins
[01:35] <mhall119> that much I don't know
[01:35] <mhall119> jhodapp and develoeprs in #ubuntu-unity would be better able to answer those questions
[01:35] <bobweaver> thanks
[01:36]  * mhall119 is merely a community manager and part-time python hacker
[01:38]  * bobweaver thisnks that mhall119, is merely Awesome and Is glad that paths have crossed :>)  
[01:38] <mhall119> :)
[01:39] <bobweaver> could release this one as a alpha testing subject and then in repo just mark for package upgrade
[01:39] <bobweaver> or even make a custom do-realsease
[01:40] <bobweaver> er spelling
[01:40] <mhall119> bobweaver: if you do, just let people know that it's all going to be replaced soon
[01:41] <bobweaver> Could call it the community alpha edition ?
[01:41] <mhall119> well we're not going to have a separate community version
[01:41] <bobweaver> it and in Ubiquity have like tons of warrings :)
[01:42] <mhall119> why not call it "bobweaver's Ubuntu TV hacking experiment"?
[01:43] <bobweaver> I do not want my name on it I just do this because I want it to work and my GF wants Ubuntu TV and Phone
[01:43] <bobweaver> and its FUN
[01:43] <mhall119> I wish I knew enough C/C++ to partake in this fun
[01:43] <bobweaver> I will just make into package
[01:44] <bobweaver> and then hack on  something with jhodapp  or just wait for upstream imporant part is that there is a working version
[01:45] <bobweaver> and that if Ubuntu is going to any more trade shows they can show it off
[01:46] <bobweaver> or not IDC I am in this for the fun and the enjoyment that I get If I can give back for what I have recived then great if not then great all in all I am just happy to have this stuff work
[01:46] <bobweaver> now if newlegg would send me  the right dvr card then I would be golden
[01:47] <bobweaver> then to get remote hacking that will be fun could turn the android into the remote  *:)
[01:49] <mhall119> bobweaver: I don't know of any upcoming TV demos, but jhodapp or whomever has been tasked with getting the port finished will be able to tell you about any impending deadlines
[01:50] <bobweaver> v.cool I am more then willing to help and if some one would foot the bill I would go straight to indiana and help from there but would need hotel and what not.
[01:50] <bobweaver> I have no clue how something like that would happen @_@
[01:50] <mhall119> I don't think there is one place where the work happens
[01:51] <mhall119> like most Ubuntu projects, the people involved are spread all over the world
[01:51] <bobweaver> cool yeah I am just a up and coming dev
[01:51] <mhall119> one who is doing some pretty cool work too
[01:51] <bobweaver> but I learn too adaptation very easy
[01:52] <bobweaver> but am a horrible speller
[01:52] <bobweaver> lol
[01:52] <mhall119> lucking compilers have syntax checkers :)
[01:54] <bobweaver> yeah that is why I am more then happy to move away from QT
[03:17] <jhodapp> hi bobweaver, we are in the very early stages of porting (I assume you are referring to porting the Ubuntu TV experience to Unity3D?)
[03:17] <jhodapp> bobweaver: all I have done so far in this early effort is to break the media player out into a separate application, but still as a unity2d app
[03:18] <bobweaver> can I ask you some questions
[03:18] <bobweaver> Is there anywhere that I can read about blueprints and or how I may be able to see what the picture is ?
[03:18] <bobweaver> picture for the future that is
[03:19] <bobweaver> Like porting to unity 3d
[03:19] <bobweaver> I guess is the important part
[03:26] <jhodapp> there isn't too much yet
[03:26] <bobweaver> ok
[03:26] <jhodapp> it will start to come together soon, but it's still very early
[03:26] <bobweaver> well if you ever want some help you know how to get a-hold of me
[03:26] <jhodapp> we have the two blueprints from UDS, that's it
[03:27] <jhodapp> thanks bobweaver, I appreciate that. Your enthusiasm for the project is great!
[03:27] <bobweaver> that is in the topic correct
[03:27] <jhodapp> hmm, I don't see it
[03:28] <bobweaver> jhodapp,  you have seen the videos ?
[03:28] <jhodapp> what videos?
[03:29] <bobweaver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvgEhluz6E8
[03:29] <bobweaver> part one ^^ I have sense cleaned up the ui more setting images to 230 tvpix
[03:29] <bobweaver> then I have wored on porting the 3rd party you tube lens
[03:30] <bobweaver> that you can see at this linke
[03:30] <jhodapp> wow, you've been busy!
[03:30] <bobweaver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-lM4d_-px0
[03:30] <jhodapp> very nice work
[03:31] <jhodapp> btw, I am in the states, yes
[03:31] <bobweaver> kah
[03:31] <bobweaver> you are more then welcome to get a hold of me at any time. I will be pushing more code tonight
[03:32] <jhodapp> you're working on some lenses it looks like?
[03:32] <bobweaver> Yeah I added all the lens that I thought would be good for a tv
[03:32] <bobweaver> and that are simple and not hard to use
[03:32] <bobweaver> the youtube one is the crazy one that is still giving me a little bit of trouble
[03:33] <jhodapp> excellent, well it's great to have you trying some things for sure!
[03:33] <jhodapp> I have to run for the evening, but we'll talk some more in the near future
[03:34] <bobweaver> because it ran on a lens called "video-lens" and the default video-lens would crash together you I had to rewrite
[03:34] <bobweaver> ok cya
[03:34] <jhodapp> later!
[05:43] <cob-olp1> hi
[05:43] <cob-olp1> I still try to install ubuntu-tv on my pandaboard, but I'm stuck on this http://pastebin.com/V0bgAp39
[05:43] <cob-olp1> I use 11.10 release
[05:44] <cob-olp1> can please somebody help me?
[05:57] <bobweaver> I will look
[05:58] <bobweaver> paste is not loading
[06:03] <cob-olp1> strange
[06:03] <cob-olp1> you cannot open it?
[06:04] <bobweaver> yeah it works now my cpu is under high pressure
[06:05] <bobweaver> base is armel is installed ? 11.10 ?
[06:05] <cob-olp1> yes
[06:06] <cob-olp1> I have 11.10
[06:06] <bobweaver> you may want to try my branch
[06:06] <bobweaver> but I do not have all lens pushed yrt
[06:06] <cob-olp1> your branch of ubuntu tv?
[06:07] <cob-olp1> should I try it on 11.10
[06:07] <bobweaver> you did build depends  ?
[06:07] <cob-olp1> or 12.04
[06:07] <bobweaver> I have on both but 11.10 works better
[06:07] <bobweaver> because of unity 4
[06:07] <bobweaver> and not unity 5
[06:07] <cob-olp1> that is why I'm trying on 11.10
[06:08] <bobweaver> you did build depens ?
[06:08] <bobweaver> for unity 2d ?
[06:08] <cob-olp1> not sure
[06:08] <bobweaver> sudo apt-get build-depends unity-2d
[06:09] <bobweaver> you have to get the depends for unity 2d before you can complile
[06:09] <bobweaver> apt-cache show unity-2d
[06:09] <bobweaver> and look at the Depends lines
[06:09] <bobweaver> all them programs have to be installed 1st before you can complie
[06:11] <bobweaver> that is what build-dep sorry
[06:11] <bobweaver> sudo apt-get build-dep  unity-2d
[06:11] <bobweaver> that is correct ^^
[06:12] <cob-olp1> ok, I will do this
[06:13] <bobweaver> you may also want to look at my branch as I have done alot work for other launches ect
[06:13] <cob-olp1> however, unity-2d is iunstalled from the start
[06:13] <cob-olp1> why I have to build-dep?
[06:14] <bobweaver> ok you have to build the "Dependence" of the Unity 2d or it will not complie because iot depends on them programs to complie
[06:16] <cob-olp1> you mean that if I want to build unity-2d on my own I have to have all the dependences
[06:16] <bobweaver> correct
[06:16] <cob-olp1> because what I have now is only pre-prepared package
[06:16] <cob-olp1> not built by me?
[06:17] <bobweaver> where did you get your upstream code ?
[06:17] <bobweaver> lp s-team ?
[06:18] <bobweaver> but to be 100% honest with you I know little of armel
[06:20] <cob-olp1> it looks that I am using one from s-team
[06:20] <bobweaver> but I do know a little about ubuntu tv ;)   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvgEhluz6E8
[06:21] <bobweaver> you will see that there is  more launchers and lens but you would have to install the lens also
[06:21] <bobweaver> would be best to stay with s-team
[06:21] <bobweaver> you where are you directions that you are reading ?
[06:25] <cob-olp1> the best what I have founds was some japanese page
[06:25] <cob-olp1> but now I cannot find this article on it
[06:26] <cob-olp1> this was the only one that was concerning pandaboard+ubuntu-tv
[06:27] <cob-olp1> other tutorials are for ubuntu-tv on pc
[06:28] <cob-olp1> by the way, it looks and works great on your video
[06:40] <bobweaver> yeah I have no clue on how armel works I dont have the hardware :(
[06:41] <cob-olp1> after build-dep and reboot I have no panels
[06:41] <bobweaver> that is ok
[06:41] <cob-olp1> they appear for a moment, but then dissapears
[06:42] <bobweaver> you are going to get ride of them in the end righ t
[06:42] <bobweaver> cd ~/ubuntu-tv
[06:42] <bobweaver> cmake .
[06:42] <bobweaver> does it build now ?
[06:42] <cob-olp1> so I have to switch to terminal
[06:42] <bobweaver> yes
[06:43] <bobweaver> or tty1 or what ever it is that you can get shell
[06:43] <cob-olp1> goes further
[06:44] <cob-olp1> but "package unity-core-4.0 not found"
[06:44] <bobweaver> Oo
[06:44] <bobweaver> that must be installed
[06:46] <bobweaver> Is there any way that you could install pastebinit and run dpkg-query -l |pastebinit
[06:46] <bobweaver> then give me the link so I can see what is installed
[07:41] <cob-olp> once again I'm stuck on dependencies
[07:42] <bobweaver> so installed lib-unity-4.0
[07:43] <bobweaver> sorry unity-core-4.0
[07:43] <cob-olp> I need unity-services and libunity-core-4.0-4dbgsym, but It looks that there are no versions that are compatible with each other
[07:44] <bobweaver> you can find all the depends if you use apt-cache show <name os package >
[07:44] <bobweaver> s|os|of
[08:24] <cob-olp> I know the dependencies
[08:24] <cob-olp> but I cannot solve them
[08:29] <cob-olp> do you know which version of unity core should I install
[08:29] <cob-olp> ?
[08:44] <cob-olp> for example this one http://pastebin.com/015zqMU0
[08:45] <cob-olp> how can I fix this if there is no unity-services=4.24.0.2011.10-0linaro3
[09:01] <cob-olp> I will try once again on clean linaro 11.12
[09:08] <cob-olp> should I start from apt-get build-dep unity-2d?
[09:08] <bobweaver> there is a wiki have you looked it over ?
[09:08] <bobweaver> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing
[09:10] <cob-olp> yes
[09:11] <cob-olp> I will try it once again
[09:11] <cob-olp> I don't remember what problem I had with it
[09:15] <cob-olp> I am not sure if sudo apt-get build-dep unity-2d will not upgrade my unity to 5
[09:19] <bobweaver> you should not use 4.0 or video lens will not work
[09:19] <cob-olp> hmm
[09:20] <bobweaver> how does arm work you have to compile everything to board ?
[09:20] <cob-olp> I thought that I switched to 11.10 because of unity 4
[09:20] <bobweaver> what about opengl
[09:20] <bobweaver> ls /usr/share/unity/
[09:20] <bobweaver> is there a 4 or a 5 ?
[09:22] <cob-olp> at the moment I cannot check because I am installing linaro once again on my sd card
[09:22] <cob-olp> I am not sure about opengl
[09:22] <cob-olp> I assume that there are some additional packages
[09:23] <bobweaver> yes I do not know about arm
[09:23] <cob-olp> sudo apt-get install libegl1-sgx-omap4-dev libgles2-sgx-omap4-dev
[09:23] <bobweaver> Oo
[09:24] <cob-olp> http://d.hatena.ne.jp/kinneko/searchdiary?word=ubuntu-tv&.submit=%B8%A1%BA%F7&type=detail
[09:24] <cob-olp> I have found this japanese tutorial
[09:25] <cob-olp> I remember that some time ago I switched to unity 4 because there were some problems with 5
[09:26] <cob-olp> this is why I installed 11.10 instead of 12.03
[09:26] <cob-olp> but in this tutorial they are using 12.01
[09:28] <bobweaver> Yeah I am not sure I have no arm devices and maybe qemu will run arm but I dont even know where to start with that
[09:30] <cob-olp> maybe I will install 12.01 and try this Japanese tutorial
[09:30] <cob-olp> I am not sure if tried with this version
[09:31] <bobweaver> what is 12.01 ?
[09:31] <bobweaver> 12.04 ?
[09:31] <cob-olp> linaro
[09:31] <bobweaver> ahh
[09:33] <bobweaver> I am going to try arm I just DL it
[09:34] <bobweaver> all 2.2 gigs of it Oo
[09:35] <cob-olp> ehh, now I have to wait for 11.10 to upload on my sd card
[09:35] <cob-olp> and after that I will switch to 12.01...
[09:36] <cob-olp> which version are you going to try?
[09:37] <bobweaver> 11.10
[09:38] <bobweaver> it says that it is called mk5 armel IDK if it is going to work
[09:41] <cob-olp> ok, I have clean linaro 11.10
[09:57] <cob-olp> I tried to build-dep unity-2d
[10:00] <bobweaver> Please keep in mind that I know nothing of or about arm it might take me days there was someone that built it all ready I seen a video of a dude in califorina but that is it
[10:02] <bobweaver> but I do know that things dont build with out the right tools to build them
[10:02] <cob-olp> I am sure that some people managed to run ubuntu tv on panda
[10:04] <bobweaver> how much are panda boards and where do you get them ect
[10:04] <popey> rsalveti has had it working on pandaboard I believe
[10:04] <popey> bobweaver: google ☺
[10:04] <popey> http://pandaboard.org/content/buy
[10:05] <cob-olp> yes, I know that rsalveti made this
[10:05] <bobweaver> Hi popey  & thanks
[10:05] <cob-olp> but there is no step by step tutorial
[10:07] <bobweaver> gezz there are none in stock and what I see on google is $$
[10:07] <bobweaver> no soup for bob
[10:08] <cob-olp> in rsalveti article everything seems to be very easy
[10:08] <cob-olp> http://rsalveti.wordpress.com/2012/01/10/ubuntu-tv-ui-at-pandaboard-and-next-steps/
[10:09] <cob-olp> but I try to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing as he wrote
[10:09] <cob-olp> and I am stuck on first step now :)
[10:10] <cob-olp> I will be back in one hour
[10:11] <bobweaver> gezz good luck cob-olp
[10:12] <bobweaver> popey,  where do I get android code ?
[10:12] <bobweaver> I take it that it is also QT ?
[10:12] <popey> ubuntu tv isnt based on android
[10:13] <popey> what android code are you referring to?
[10:13] <bobweaver> I know that but is the ui for ubuntu android
[10:13] <bobweaver> all the videos that are online
[10:13] <popey> ah, "Ubuntu for Android"?
[10:13] <bobweaver> Yes
[10:13] <popey> That's not yet public.
[10:13] <bobweaver> sorry about the confusion
[10:14] <bobweaver> :(
[10:15] <bobweaver> I do not have android yet anyhow but my GF is getting one soon and she wants it
[10:15] <bobweaver> bummer .. will jsut have to wait and see what happens
[10:15] <bobweaver> thanks for the info :)
[10:15] <popey> np
[10:15] <popey> sorry we don't have anything to share at the moment
[11:01] <cob-olp> Ubuntu on Android?
[11:02] <cob-olp> you mean Ubuntu instead Android on Android phone/tablet?