[00:00] <Jordan_U> wawowe: No you don't, you can directly upgrade from one LTS release to the next.
[00:00] <vagtastic> wawowe cat /etc/issue => Ubuntu 12.04 LTS \n \l
[00:00] <wawowe> nvm then
[00:00] <wawowe> vagtastic: either way upgrade again
[00:01] <wawowe> dist-upgrade
[00:01] <vagtastic> I tried a dist-upgrade but nothing =/
[00:02] <vagtastic> Is there a 32bit kernel for pae that is 3.2.0 ?
[00:02] <wawowe> vagtastic: i'm running 32bit pae 3.2
[00:02] <einfeldt> hi, how do I resize windows in Firefox under Unity in 12.04?  thx in advance.
[00:02] <vagtastic> wawowe hmmm
[00:03] <MonkeyDust> einfeldt  windows in firefox?
[00:03] <wawowe> vagtastic: does apt-get say anything about it?
[00:03] <stef1a> anybody know why ubuntu 12.04 isn't allowing me to change the brightness on my laptop? http://i.imgur.com/h3Ve6.png
[00:03] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust, by windows I mean the Firefox windows
[00:03] <vagtastic> wawowe yeah I was just about to take a look at that.
[00:03] <escott> stef1a, likely an acpi issue
[00:04] <TomatoKetchup> stef1a, what laptop?
[00:04] <genii-around> !info linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic-pae
[00:04] <TheTrash> Is there an ncurses tool in Ubuntu server that assists in setting up disks, RAID, etc? I.e., is the disk setup thingy from the installer available as an app afterwards?
[00:05] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust: I am trying to navigate between windows on 10.04.  I clicked on the box to maximize the Firefox window, and now I can't make it small again
[00:05] <OkonX> wawowe: Hey, I updated everything and my system is perfect!!!
[00:06] <MonkeyDust> einfeldt  try double clicing on the window's top bar
[00:06] <MonkeyDust> clicking*
[00:06] <vagtastic> wawowe what is your kernel name uname -a
[00:07] <wawowe> vagtastic: 3.2.0-24-generic-pae
[00:07] <vagtastic> wawowe and that is 32 bit?
[00:07] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust:  thx, all I had to do was move the mouse over the top bar, and the options for minimize, maximize, etc appeared.
[00:07] <wawowe> vagtastic: Linux buttface 3.2.0-24-generic-pae #37-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 25 10:47:59 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[00:08] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust, today is my very first time using 12.04, and I installed it on a computer that I am giving to someone
[00:08] <vagtastic> wawowe I am only seesing this  sudo apt-cache search linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic-pae
[00:08] <vagtastic> linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic-pae - Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
[00:08] <genii-around> Would it make sense to even have an x86_64 bit pae kernel ?
[00:09] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust, I volunteer with Partimus.org.  We put Ubuntu GNU-Linux machines in public schools.
[00:09] <wawowe> vagtastic: it'll install the x86 kernel
[00:09] <genii-around> vagtastic: Yes. 64 bit there not referring to what arch the package is, the x86 is
[00:09] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust, I am a relatively simple end user.  My role in the org is to handhold the newbies.
[00:10] <vagtastic> wawowe genii-around so I should just install it?
[00:10] <wawowe> vagtastic: yea
[00:10] <vagtastic> kk
[00:11] <genii-around> vagtastic: Yes. You could do like : sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic-pae:I386  if you want to specify
[00:11] <vagtastic> Ill do that
[00:11] <vagtastic> thx
[00:12] <stef1a> TomatoKetchup: HP ProBook 4545s
[00:12] <stef1a> escott: i've edited my grub config file -- it hasn't helped
[00:17] <stef1a> i will ask again: anybody know why ubuntu 12.04 isn't allowing me to change the brightness on my laptop? http://i.imgur.com/h3Ve6.png
[00:17] <Darael> I upgraded to Precise, and now my keyboard layout settings seem to have no effect; everything's stuck in the system keyboard setting, which doesn't have, eg, compose key, caps-lock-as-backspace, layout-switching options...
[00:17] <stef1a> i've tried editing my grub config file and adding the acpi linux and vendor lines -- it doesn't work
[00:18] <MonkeyDust> einfeldt  offtopic: I put a link to Partimus on my (very basic) linux 'portal'
[00:19] <chrislu5tic> Hi there, I'm having a problem with winff,  wont seem to convert my ogv  files
[00:19] <chrislu5tic> (winff:4188): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_file_chooser_get_filename: assertion `GTK_IS_FILE_CHOOSER (chooser)' failed
[00:19] <chrislu5tic> any suggestions?  or other methods i can use
[00:20] <The_Explorer> Cpu Schedualing/IO: Is it a good idea to change everything to "round robin" on an 8 core cpu? I ask because 7z is lagging and only useing one core.
[00:20] <BobMarley> do you know how to use the command:: grep -r -i serach_word *   , to look just in the files that end with .s or/and .c or/and .h etc, etc
[00:21] <escott> BobMarley, use find. find -iname *.s -exec grep -i search {} \;
[00:23] <BA707> Hello All...   Is there any way to get ahold of the 'snd-rtctimer' kernel module (for use with Rosegarden (under Ubu 10.04 LTS), short of recompiling the whole kernel ?
[00:24] <BobMarley> escott, thanks but how to put that collored? and to show also in which file it was found? like using just the grep option
[00:25] <escott> BobMarley, grep -H you might also want -n
[00:25] <MonkeyDust> BA707  technically, that question can be asked here, but better as in #ubuntustudio, as it is more music oriented
[00:25] <MonkeyDust> ask*
[00:25] <escott> BobMarley, and for colors --color=always
[00:25] <wawowe> BA707: make M=snd-rtctimer
[00:25] <BA707> MonkeyDust: Thanks..  I'll go there...  They can probably answer a few of my other audio related ?'s..  ttfn
[00:26] <i7c_> to use gnome on Ubuntu 12.04... do i only have to install gnome-shell or what do i have to do?
[00:26] <BA707> wawowe:  And Thank you ONCE AGAIN...  :)
[00:26] <escott> i7c_, thats all you have to do
[00:26] <i7c_> escott: thx :)
[00:27] <Jordan_U> !notunity | i7c_
[00:27] <jagginess> i7c, of course when you go on the logon screen, you click the 'gear' icon to select your desktop type
[00:28] <jagginess> or i7c_
[00:28] <i7c_> Jordan_U: but gnome-panel (gnome 2) is not supported on 12.04 anymore, is it?
[00:30] <Jordan_U> i7c_: gnome-panel is not gnome2, it's a fallback for GNOME shell which is similar to GNOME2's old shell with panels.
[00:30] <DavidH2> im having problems with the tool bar in libreoffice and lo_menubar didnt help/ also my systray isnt working.
[00:30] <i7c_> Jordan_U: ok. but only because it's fallback does not mean it's bad to use it, right? :D
[00:31] <Jordan_U> i7c_: I think it's fine to use, though you may prefer XFCE for a GNOME2 like experience.
[00:31] <EliahKagan> i7c_: fallback means that if your 3D graphics acceleration is broken and you can't use GNOME Shell, it will function as the *fallback* -- the "fallback" doesn't mean anything good or bad about it
[00:31] <i7c_> kk, thx to you!
[00:32] <chrislu5tic> when trying to convert .ogv to mpeg using winff it says this
[00:32] <chrislu5tic> http://pastebin.com/JK7tBuAL
[00:32] <EliahKagan> on systems that use GNOME Shell instead of Unity (like Fedora), GNOME Fallback will run automatically if GNOME Shell cannot work due to graphics issues
[00:32] <quidnunc> I have a package that has a newer version available that isn't being upgraded. What gives??
[00:32] <TheTrash> I can't believe partman wasn't made available as a general purpose tool in Ubuntu server.
[00:32] <quidnunc> apt-cache policy shows old and new version with same priority
[00:33] <K1rk> I think a lot of you will appreciate this image:  https://goput.it/191.jpg
[00:33] <EliahKagan> chrislu5tic, how much free space do you have on whatever partition contains /home? also, what's the output of: ls -al /home/lu5tic/.winff
[00:34] <EliahKagan> also, the output of: ls -ald /home/lu5tic/.winff
[00:34] <BobMarley> escott, thank you again for the help, but do i look in multiple file type extensions instead as it is in the following command looking just in the .h files, i want to look also at the same time in the .s files? find  -iname *.h -exec grep -H -n --color=always -i ASM_GLOBAL {} \;
[00:36] <acolyte> Does anyone know of a music player that can list your library by Folder Structure?
[00:36] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust, off topic: thx so much for that link!  Can you paste a copy of the link?  Thx either way.  You can also reach me at einfeldt at gmail dot com
[00:36] <escott> BobMarley, -iname a -or -iname b
[00:37] <DavidH2> !systray
[00:38] <jagginess> acolyte, maybe songbird
[00:38] <MonkeyDust> einfeldt  mind if I paste in your pv ?
[00:38] <jagginess> (but its probably available in ppa)
[00:38] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust, sorry, what is pv?
[00:39] <MonkeyDust> einfeldt  private window
[00:40] <einfeldt> MonkeyDust, sure, please go ahead and paste.   :-)
[00:40] <acolyte192> Sorry, my client crashed. I will try it, thanks! :)
[00:42] <dejahnue> acolyte, xmms can show you a list of folders
[00:43] <BobMarley> escott, thank you again but with or i can just look in one tile type extention, but i want in both of them at the same time, i have used the command find -iname *.s  -iname *.h -exec grep -H -n --color=always -i setcodeselector {} \;
[00:43] <BobMarley>       , but it is not working
[00:43] <escott> BobMarley, -iname a -or -iname b
[00:43] <trism> BobMarley: you may need parens to get it working: \( -iname a -o -iname b \) then the rest of your arguments
[00:44] <BobMarley> escott, but with or it looks just in one wile extention, not in both of them at the same tine
[00:44] <BobMarley> time*
[00:44] <escott> BobMarley, -iname a   READ THIS BIT -or DID YOU SEE IT? -iname b
[00:45] <Myrth> hi, i have a clean installation of 12.04 and php5 package installed. I need pdo-mysql but phpinfo() says PDO drivers "no value". in extensions folder there's only pdo.so, which came with php5 package. aptitude search pdo doesn't give any relevant results. please help, thanks
[00:45] <dejahnue> very strange. I just discovered my irc client requesting a whois of someone I'd never heard of before
[00:46] <Harris> anyone have the drivers for hp keyboard
[00:47] <dejahnue> how safe is it to use xchat (the latest) while being here?
[00:48] <jagginess> dejahnue, being where?
[00:48] <dejahnue> on this channel
[00:48] <jagginess> dejahnue, dangerous.
[00:48] <kill> :)))
[00:49] <dejahnue> that's what I was afraid of
[00:49] <kill> be carefull u can go in jail:D
[00:49] <jagginess> ^. serial killer on the loose.
[00:49] <Harris> anyone have the drivers for hp keyboard
[00:49] <dejahnue> very strange. I just discovered my irc client requesting it's own whois of someone I'd never heard of before
[00:50] <jagginess> dejahnue, maybe your mouse is double clicking instead of single clicking..
[00:50] <jagginess> (maybe its that killer)
[00:51] <kill> where are u from guys ?
[00:51]  * jagginess hides
[00:51] <dejahnue> it requested a whois of someone named "darkshadows" who isn't even on my screen
[00:52] <escott> dejahnue, its just advertising for the new johnny depp movie. canonical gets paid for each whois
[00:52] <jagginess> dejahnue, did you look behind the screen? maybe it's a real mouse doing something
[00:52] <dejahnue> yeah right
[00:53] <jagginess> dejahnue, i think you found a hidden mascot.. probably an easter egg of some killer sort..
[00:54] <dejahnue> even if that is so, it concerns me deeply to find that someone built it into xchat
[00:54] <BobMarley> escott, -or evaluates just one expession, but i wanted both of them to be evaluated.   i am trying to use the command in this way: find -iname *.s , *.h -exec grep -H -n --color=always -i setcodeselector {} ;
[00:54] <BobMarley> , but it is not working
[00:54] <jagginess> dejahnue, http://www.eeggs.com/tree/10511.html
[00:54] <escott> BobMarley, find . -iname *.txt -or -iname *.sh works just fine on my system
[00:55] <BobMarley> escott, yes it works but as you can read in the man pages it is exclusive, if one is true , the other is false
[00:56] <BobMarley> escott, it also is not working in this fassion: find -iname *.s ,-iname *.h -exec grep -H -n --color=always -i setcodeselector {} ;
[00:57] <escott> BobMarley, "it is exclusive, if one is true, the other is false" i dont get what you are saying there. *.s and *.h cannot both be true at the same time
[00:58] <muelli> BobMarley: ... well. you could as well use smth like -name '*.[ch]'
[00:58] <xisor> hi, i need help finding a program to do what i need it to do
[00:58] <muelli> xisor: apropos
[00:58] <xisor> i need a cpu temperature sensor program, that resides in and can show the temp in the new unity bar on the left
[00:59] <xisor> much like windows app can show temps in the taskbar
[00:59] <xisor> even one that shows the temp on the top bar would be fine
[00:59] <wylde> xisor: lm-sensors and psensor might be useful to you
[00:59] <BobMarley> escott, what i really want is both of them to be true at the same time,
[00:59] <xisor> psensor puts an icon on the top bar, but doesnt show the temp unless i actually open it
[01:00] <xisor> i need to be able to see the cpu temp at all times regardless of what im doing
[01:00] <escott> BobMarley, well i can solve that problem for you very easily just run /bin/false
[01:00] <jamal> hello
[01:00] <wylde> xisor: it can show the cpu temp on the unity bar as well. Just only 1 temp though.
[01:00] <jagginess> xisor, well sensors eh.. conky
[01:00] <escott> BobMarley, a file cannot end in both .s and .h so what do you want
[01:00] <xisor> wylde: how do i make it show the temp?
[01:01] <hkpolitik> 12.04 doesn't seem to be recognizing/utilizing my gpu. how do I install/configure radeon drivers?
[01:01] <jagginess> xisor, conky boy?
[01:01]  * jagginess thinks http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[01:01] <Darael> xisor: Permanent solution, DE-independent but requiring additional hardware, would be to add a small LCD; many are well supported.
[01:01] <Darael> hkpolitik: Have you looked at the "additional drivers" tool?
[01:01] <wylde> in the options I believe, moment I'l have to check. I'm on a thin client atm.
[01:01] <BobMarley> escott, no what i really want is to look for some word that is located in the file extensions that i specify, in my case are .s and .h , both of them at the same time
[01:01] <xisor> Darael: nah i  want a software solution
[01:02] <Darael> xisor: Fair enough, I just thought I'd mention it.
[01:02] <hkpolitik> Darael: yeah, I've ran that program and it didn't seem to find my drivers or recognize them
[01:02] <escott> BobMarley, and im saying. find -iname *.s -or -iname *.h will find all files that end in either .s or .h -exec grep ... will then run grep on those files. if that is not what you want you need to be clearer about how it is not what you want
[01:03] <Darael> BobMarley: Surely not both at the same time, but either?  A file can't match both *.s and *.h, it's impossible.
[01:03] <xisor> wylde: how do i make it show the temp without having to open it?
[01:04] <hkpolitik> does 12.04 still use xorg to configure the vga driver? maybe i need to do something with that
[01:04] <Darael> xisor: If it'll display in the launcher, then add it to the startup apps, and either set it to start minimised (if that's an option in the config) or use devilspie to minimise it.
[01:04] <wylde> xisor: in prefs, "Enable Unity Launcher Counter" I believe
[01:05] <xisor> wylde: i dont have that option
[01:05] <BobMarley> Darael, escott, not a file but files, i have in my directory the aa.s and aa.c  and now i want to look in both of them at the same time if they have the worh "hello"
[01:05] <xisor> wylde: actually nvm, i do, and its checked, and i dont see the temp anywhere in unity still
[01:05] <wylde> xisor: i have ver. 0.6.2.16 and it has that opyion
[01:06] <BobMarley> there is that option in the find command:
[01:06] <BobMarley> expr1 , expr2
[01:06] <BobMarley>               List;  both  expr1 and expr2 are always evaluated.  The value of expr1 is discarded; the value of the list is the value of expr2. The comma
[01:06] <BobMarley>               operator can be useful for searching for several different types of thing, but traversing the filesystem hierarchy only once.  The -fprintf
[01:06] <BobMarley>               action can be used to list the various matched items into several different output files.
[01:06] <FloodBot1> BobMarley: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:06] <wylde> xisor: it puts the temp insid the icon on the launcher.
[01:06] <BobMarley> but it is not working
[01:06] <xisor> wylde: i see the icon only, no temperature
[01:06] <muelli> BobMarley: ... well. you could as well use smth like -name '*.[ch]'
[01:06] <BobMarley> -name is just sensitive
[01:06] <escott> BobMarley, you are reading that wrong. the comma operator is to do something like finding a file ending in .h but then getting the path or some other attribute of the file as the output not the filename itself
[01:07] <hkpolitik> where is xorg.conf located?
[01:07] <wylde> xisor: hmmmm, not sure what else to do. I'ts always worked for me. I have the idicator and the icon in the launchbar shows just the cpu temp.
[01:07] <xisor> anyone know where i can find out the safe temperature limit of my cpu/
[01:08] <muelli> hkpolitik: config files are generally located in /etc/. to find files named "xorg.conf" you could use smth like "find /etc/ -name 'xorg.conf'".
[01:09] <muelli> hkpolitik: I for one, don't even have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf anymore (thank's god...) but it'd probably be located/expected there.
[01:09] <BobMarley> xisor, in the intel manual about you cpu
[01:09] <BobMarley> os some webpage
[01:09] <hkpolitik> muelli: thanks!
[01:09] <i7c> how can i configure multiple desktops/workspaces with gnome-shell?
[01:09] <muelli> i7c: you don't. It just works :)
[01:09] <BobMarley> i7c ctrl+shoft+t
[01:09] <escott> BobMarley, you would use the comma operator if you wanted to do something like "find -iname *.s -delete, -iname *.h -print" which would scan the folder ONCE and delete all s files and print all h file
[01:10] <i7c> BobMarley: mhm doesn't have any effect
[01:10] <escott> BobMarley, think of finds "," as begin "; find" but a bit more efficient
[01:10] <Harris> anyone have the drivers for hp keyboard
[01:11] <muelli> Harris: erm. What makes you think that you need a driver?
[01:11] <BobMarley> escott, ???
[01:11] <Harris> muelli,  it is not working
[01:11] <muelli> Harris: how do you know?
[01:11] <Harris> i am trying to use it now
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> Harris, this a laptop, and do you have another keyboard to try?
[01:11] <jagginess> Harris, is it usb?
[01:12] <escott> BobMarley, "," is not what you want. its so esoteric i doubt anyone uses it much. in all likelihood you will never in your life encounter a situation where you will want to use ","
[01:12] <Harris> wilee-nilee,  it is a laptop  and no jagginess  yes it is usb
[01:12] <jagginess> Harris, is it an hp laptop? (maybe you need to pass a kernel option)
[01:12] <Harris> jagginess,  yes it is
[01:12] <jane_wayne78> i'm following the steps at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed, in the Create an HVM Guest VM section, when i run "sudo xm create /etc/xen/ubuntu-hvm.cfg" i get a error: Domain ubuntu-hvm does not exist
[01:13] <i7c> well i obviously have 2 workspaces... but i'd like 3x3 ... how to increase the number?
[01:13] <jane_wayne78> any idea?
[01:13] <hkpolitik> is it normal to not have an xorg.conf anymore?
[01:13] <muelli> i7c: you just use them. You get as many workspaces as you use.
[01:13] <hellox> hi
[01:14] <hellox> why my root dir haven't left any space now?
[01:14] <BobMarley> escott, so how is there at the horizon some solution for my problme
[01:14] <jagginess> Harris, a usb keyboard.. the most problems i've had with usb has to do with laptop usb ports.. sometimes if u change ports or add a usb extender, there makes a difference..
[01:14] <muelli> hkpolitik: yes :)
[01:14] <hellox> http://iyanwu.com/pastebin/showthread.php?tid=87
[01:14] <i7c> muelli: got it. but i cant move to the right or left? just up and down?
[01:15] <jagginess> hkpolitik, yes that's normal. Xorg can go without xorg.conf as long as you like what it's using as a default.. (it does autodetection)
[01:15] <Harris> that did not work jagginess
[01:15] <muelli> i7c: correct
[01:15] <escott> BobMarley, "-or" thats how you do what you described. tell me in what way -or is not what you want?
[01:16] <Harris> jagginess,  now it works but on my laptop there are lights next to caps lock which tells me its on
[01:16] <Harris> but
[01:16] <jagginess> Harris, only thing you can try is to update the bios, (and if still fails, try to slightly checkout a pci timer modification with one of the pci commands)
[01:16] <i7c> muelli: meeeeh :(
[01:16] <Harris> when i press caps lock on the usb keyboard
[01:16] <jagginess> Harris, i'm assuming you're trying plaintext as well
[01:16] <jagginess> Harris, you tried plaintext console?
[01:16] <Harris> the light does not go on
[01:17] <Harris> what is plaintext
[01:17] <jagginess> Harris, you type ctl-alt-f7 to come back to gui, plain text is ctl-alt-f1 .. to ctl-alt-f6
[01:17] <BobMarley> escott, the syntax of the or is as decribed in the man pages:  USE THIS FILE EXTENSION -or THIS ONE,   but what i really want is to look in all files that end with .h and .s
[01:17] <hellox> help
[01:18] <Harris> it works but
[01:18] <Harris>  on my laptop there are lights next to caps lock which tells me its on but the light does not go on when i press caps lock on the usb keyboard
[01:18] <BobMarley> escott, and how to exclude some folders from searching?
[01:18] <jagginess> Harris, dunno, maybe look at something related to 'scim' functionality
[01:18] <escott> BobMarley, find -false thats how you search for all files that end in both .h AND .s.
[01:19] <wawowe> BobMarley: it looks at both.. it doesn't just choose at random
[01:20] <bsmith093> how do i fix this, its a binary linux blob i dont have the souce and i tried compiling qt4.7 from source but i dont kno how to check whick version this thing thinks its using symbol lookup error: ./fanficdownloader: undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData11detach_growEPii
[01:20] <muelli> bsmith093: try running ldd on that thing
[01:20] <hellox> wow, help
[01:20] <xisor> what are some programs you guys would reccomend for a linux noob for playing audio and video files, and other everyday things that peple do?
[01:21] <xisor> people
[01:21] <wawowe> hellox: you filled you disk i guess. so that's why it's full
[01:21] <muelli> xisor: totem and rhythmbox.
[01:21] <Harris> what is scim jagginess
[01:21] <Darael> xisor: VLC runs on Linux, is in the Ubuntu repos, may be familiar from Windows, and plays just about everything.
[01:21] <GeoGeek> xisor: VLC
[01:22] <GeoGeek> Darn. Beat me to it.
[01:22] <xisor> Darael: what about web browser? firefox or chrome? firefox seems built in
[01:22] <bsmith093> muelli: http://pastebin.com/4Xe4HSyR
[01:22] <hellox> wawowe dude, i haven't did that:(
[01:22] <wawowe> hellox: did it suddenly fill by itself?
[01:22] <hellox> wawowe how to know the problem why my disk is full:(
[01:23] <Darael> xisor: I use a mix of Firefox and chromium (the unbranded, open-source version of Chrome; it's in the repos, Chrome requires a download from Google).  I also occasionally use Opera, Epiphany, elinks...
[01:23] <hellox> wawowe  i am not sure:( but i use tar xf to extrat a large file days ago:(
[01:23] <xisor> Darael: any difference id notice between chrome or chromium in terms of features, addons etc?
[01:23] <muelli> bsmith093: hm. the linker finds all necessary libraries...
[01:24] <bsmith093> muelli: i recently found out qt was overhauled, and im thinking that might be the issue
[01:24] <wawowe> hellox: find / -exec du -h {} \; | grep G
[01:24] <Darael> xisor: The default colour-scheme is different?  It uses your system codecs and flash-player rather than built-in ones, too.  No differences you should really notice, therefore, except the better default colour scheme and logo :P
[01:24] <muelli> bsmith093: what is the exact output when you run it?
[01:24] <xisor> Darael: is java already installed with ubuntu?
[01:24] <xisor> Darael: if not, how do i go about getting it?
[01:25] <escott> hellox, wawowe, find -size would be a LOT faster
[01:25] <bsmith093> muelli: this ben@ben-laptop:~/Desktop/Ben's Stuff/Fanfiction$ ./fanficdownloader  ./fanficdownloader: symbol lookup error: ./fanficdownloader: undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData11detach_growEPii
[01:25] <OerHeks> OpenJDK is just fine for me
[01:25] <Darael> !java | xisor
[01:25] <xisor> Darael: and..... what do i grab for java to work in firefox and chromium? :P
[01:26] <muelli> weird bsmith093. But it's C++. That's too quirky anyway. Nobody wants to actually deal with that.. sorry, no idea.
[01:26] <Darael> xisor: The link should help, but as I recall it's something to do with openJDK?  I forget, and I'm not on my Ubuntu machine right now.
[01:26] <xisor> Darael: will openjdk do 100% of the same things the same way oracles java will?
[01:27] <xisor> Darael: arent 99.9% of all things made for java made with oracles java in mind?
[01:27] <raptor67682> how to add a rss reader to ELINKS?
[01:27] <wawowe> hellox, escott find / -size 1G -or -size 2G -or -size 3G -exec du -h {} \;
[01:27] <escott> xisor, oracle is switching to basing their next release on openjdk so it should be really really close
[01:28] <Darael> xisor: OpenJDK was based on code released by Sun, IIRC.  In any case, best bet is to just install the default-jre package, which will pull in something appropriate as a dependency.  Besides, <what escott said>.
[01:28] <xisor> ok then
[01:28] <xisor> anything else i need to install to get the best experience possible out of ubuntu?
[01:28] <zykotick9> raptor67682: are you looking for a console rss reader?  canto is one option.
[01:28] <escott> wawowe, hellox -size +1G
[01:28] <xisor> while im grabbing stuff
[01:29] <VDZ> Hmmm...I made a bit of a silly mistake. I reinstalled my server (twice, first installation had severe issues), but forgot to backup my database folder. Current disk usage is 4%, was less at previous install
[01:29] <VDZ> Do I still have a chance at recovering my /var/lib/postgresql/8.4, and if so, what tool do you recommend for it?
[01:29] <VDZ> I'm not interested in the other 96% of the disk, everything important is backed up
[01:30] <VDZ> The database itself wasn't all that big
[01:30] <OerHeks> xisor restricted extra's is a metapackage for flash, openjsk & more webtools
[01:30] <xisor> OerHeks: flash already seems to be installed and working by default
[01:30] <Darael> xisor: Much of this stuff can be gotten by installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, or (if you're in such a situation that renders it legal to do so) adding the medibuntu.org repo and installing the non-free-codecs package (which depends on ubuntu-restricted-extras anyway)
[01:31] <Darael> xisor: In that case, you probably checked a box at install time, which will have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras including its dependencies such as a JRE.  Sorted.
[01:31] <i7c> can i config somehow that gnome-shell will switch workspaces on both of my physical displays? right now it only switches on the primary and on the second there is always the same workspace
[01:31] <xisor> Darael: do i need non-free-codecs for vlc to play my files? or no?
[01:31] <zykotick9> xisor: vlc doesn't use external codecs
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> Darael, a install with the 3rd party ticked does not install the restricted-extras. :)
[01:32] <Darael> xisor: You might want to install libdvdcss2 from medibuntu (or there's a shell script somewhere to do it without that repo, I forget which)
[01:32] <Darael> wilee-nilee: I never used it myself.  Teach me not to make assumptions.
[01:32] <xisor> Darael: i dont own an optical drive, let alone a dvd:P
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> Darael, I think you can do it all yourself, lol. :)
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> an assumption on my part of course
[01:34] <xisor> wilee-nilee: how do i have flash installed then if i didnt install either it or the restricted extras?
[01:34] <Darael> wilee-nilee: That was /intended/ to be a "that'll teach me", rather than a request, although I concede that the phrasing was ambiguous.
[01:34] <OerHeks> ah, install synaptic, it isn't default anymore
[01:34] <Darael> xisor: That's that, then.  Still useful to know about :P
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> Darael, I try not to read into stuff, but gosh darn I do it anyway.
[01:35] <xisor> Darael: how do i get screensavers? :P
[01:35] <xisor> Darael: and WHERE do i set them up at?
[01:36] <xisor> Darael: i couldnt find it in the system settings anywhere
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> the walnut sized brain is the culprit I suspect.
[01:36] <Darael> xisor: That's GNOME's fault; they decided that gnome-screensaver wouldn't be anymore.  You'll need to install the xscreensaver package, as I recall.
[01:36] <xisor> Darael: ok
[01:36] <Guest81104> trying to setup backuppc, added backuppc users to sudoers via visudo still doesn't work, anybody have experience with backuppc?
[01:37] <xisor> Darael: got a specific name for the package i need
[01:37] <xisor> nvm
[01:37] <xisor> that WAS the name
[01:37] <xisor> where will i find the config for it?
[01:38] <Endafy> when is Gimp 2.8 going to be in the repos?
[01:38] <Darael> xisor: My memory is that it comes with a config tool, but this is from at least three releases ago, so... I have no idea.  And it may be necessary to do something to get it to work instead of gnome-screensaver.  I forget.
[01:39] <OerHeks> Guest81104, maybe page is any help > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupPC
[01:39] <zykotick9> Endafy: next release probably.  versions aren't typically updated after release (there are some exceptions).  you might check for a PPA
[01:39] <Darael> Endafy: Certainly not until the next release - package major-versions are (for the most part) fixed for a given release.
[01:39] <Endafy> thats retarded
[01:39] <raptor67682> zykotick9: thank you. I have to try to know if canto support <-> elinks
[01:39] <Endafy> I have to wait 6 effin months for an updated gimp?
[01:40] <bosco_> ok i am having trouble connecting my hdmi from my laptop to my tv wont show any picture just goes black for a min on my laptop i am in catalyst control on my laptop?
[01:40] <bosco_> any help??
[01:40] <Darael> Endafy: Not really.  The point of a stable release is that it's stable.  You want rolling-release, use a rolling-release distro or PPAs for the packages you want updates for.
[01:40] <Endafy> but 2.8 is stabl;e
[01:40] <zykotick9> raptor67682: sorry, i'm unclear why your looking for elinks and rss feeds.  I doubt canto-elinks talk to one another...  good luck.
[01:40] <xisor> Darael: it has a huge list of screensavers but most of them say not available
[01:40] <xisor> Darael: the extras packages it specifies, dont exist
[01:40] <Endafy> its been stable for a while
[01:40] <Darael> Endafy: Stable doesn't just mean it runs without crashing, it means things don't change from under people's feet.
[01:40] <Code_Factory> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with thunderbird can someone help me?
[01:40] <Endafy> it runs without crashing here
[01:41] <Guest81104> OerHerks thanks but I followed the instructions on that page
[01:41] <awakecoding> hi, I'm looking for instructions on how to set up the FreeIPA server on ubuntu
[01:41] <wawowe> bosco_: turn on dual displays in that control panel
[01:41] <Darael> xisor: Try the xscreensaver-gl and xscreensaver-gl-extra packages?  Just a guess.
[01:41] <bosco_> wawowe, ok i have done that i think just to make sure tell me again how to do that?
[01:41] <SirCmpwn> I have ubuntu server up and running and I'm trying to enable mod_rewrite on apache 2.2
[01:41] <einfeldt> Hi, before Unity, it was possible to get to the desktop with a click of the button.  Is there a similar option in Unity for Ubuntu 12.04? Thx in advance
[01:41] <muelli> !anyone | Code_Factory
[01:41] <SirCmpwn> I found rewrite.load in mods-enabled, but running it give permission denied
[01:42] <SirCmpwn> running as root, I mean
[01:42] <muelli> !details | SirCmpwn
[01:42] <xisor> Darael: they renamed the packages and the app gives old names lol
[01:42] <Code_Factory> muelli ?
[01:42] <xisor> Darael: is that something i can bug report to whoever makes it? :P
[01:42] <wawowe> bosco_: "Display Manager" -> "Multi-Display" -> "Single display desktop (Multi-desktop)"
[01:42] <Darael> SirCmpwn: You don't need to run it, you just "sudo service apache2 reload".
[01:42] <Endafy> why do you make Ubuntu such a pain in the ass to run
[01:43] <Endafy> this is exactly why people dont like Linux
[01:43] <Endafy> new apps exist but you ignore them
[01:43] <SirCmpwn> Darael: and at that point I can use RewriteEngine?
[01:43] <Endafy> this shit is fucking retarded beyond belief
[01:43] <Code_Factory> Does anyone know why thunderbird might stop working for no apparent reason?
[01:43] <bosco_> wawowe, ok i have already done that and no display on tv
[01:43] <genii-around> Endafy: ppa:otto-kesselgulasch/gimp
[01:43] <muelli> Code_Factory: how do you know that?
[01:43] <genii-around> Hm, left after profanity
[01:43] <Darael> Endafy: This is a support channel, not a dev channel.  And for most people, programs changing *all* the *cursed* *time* is a pain, so they're left stable for a given release.
[01:43] <Darael> ...Oh.
[01:44] <Code_Factory> muelli : how do I know what?
[01:44] <wawowe> bosco_: can you see your second display listed there?
[01:44] <muelli> Code_Factory: that "thunderbird might stop working"
[01:45] <bosco_> wawowe, yes as orion
[01:45] <Code_Factory> muelli: i tried of the terminal, it goes into a loop of warnings! and I can see the process but nothing else happens
[01:45] <muelli> Code_Factory: what have you expected instead?
[01:46] <wawowe> bosco_: and does it actually say something like "no signal" on the other monitor?
[01:46] <Code_Factory> muelli: that the thunderbird window opens and I can check my mail?
[01:46] <ibm> please can someone help me i am trying to upgrade my version of ubuntu without success i tried with the updater tool it did not work so i tried typing in the terminal this sudo do-release-upgrade -d and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and sudo apt-get update without success i do not now what to do now
[01:46] <muelli> Code_Factory: and what warnings do you get? can you pastebin them?
[01:46] <bosco_> NO\
[01:47] <bosco_> wawowe, no sorry
[01:47] <wawowe> bosco_: what's on the other screen?
[01:47] <Darael> ibm: Which release are you on, what output did you get from the various commands you tried, and which release are you going for?
[01:47] <Code_Factory> muelli: I'm a rookie with ubuntu but I have them on a file would you like me to paste them in a private chat?
[01:47] <muelli> !pastebin | Code_Factory
[01:47] <ibm> the previous lts version of ubuntu
[01:48] <Code_Factory> !pastebinit
[01:48] <Code_Factory> muelli : I'll try now
[01:48] <muelli> ibm: how do you know that your attempts were not successful?
[01:49] <bosco_> wawowe, just blank hdmi 1
[01:49] <xisor> Darael: what is compiz and do i need it?
[01:49] <wawowe> bosco_: hit ok in the control panel and restart the xserver
[01:50] <wawowe> bosco_: then open a terminal and type DISPLAY=:0.1 xterm
[01:50] <Darael> xisor: It's a window manager, and yes, you definitely need it if you're using Unity, unless you're using Unity 2D.
[01:50] <muelli> or GNOME Shell
[01:50] <xisor> Darael: how do i check?
[01:50] <xisor> Darael: which one im using?
[01:50] <Darael> xisor: Even if you are, removing it would break ubuntu-desktop, which is a pretty-much necessary package for upgrades.
[01:51] <xisor> Darael: so i already have compiz?
[01:51] <muelli> xisor: why would you care about that?
[01:51] <Code_Factory> muelli: something funny started to happen, its opening as if its brand new!! so I will try a restart and come back.. thank you for your support, ttyl
[01:51] <Darael> xisor: If changing workspaces has a sliding animation, you're in unity 3d.  And yes, it's part of the default install.
[01:51] <xisor> muelli: i just didnt know what it was
[01:51] <ibm> because i get information that it is canceling the upgrade and it takes about only one minute
[01:51] <xisor> Darael: yes it does
[01:51] <muelli> xisor: you can check packages.ubuntu.com for descriptions. Or "apt-cache show $package" on the terminal.
[01:51] <xisor> Darael: can i change the effects and stuff?
[01:52] <bosco_> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0.1 wawowe
[01:52] <muelli> ibm: can you provide us details? I.e. what is the terminal output, does it print anything on the screen, ...? There must be a reason as to why it fails...
[01:52] <Darael> xisor: For all the interesting things compiz can do, look at the compizconfig-settings-manager package and run ccsm.  Get more compiz plugins with the compiz-plugins-* packages.
[01:52] <wawowe> bosco_: did you restart X?
[01:52] <xisor> Darael: ok ill look it up :D
[01:52] <xisor> Darael: ty
[01:53] <xisor> Darael: im gonna install kubuntu-desktop and see what kde looks like
[01:53] <ibm> muelli how do i pastebin the easiest way
[01:53] <xisor> Darael: i can switch back and forth anytime at the login screen right?
[01:53] <muelli> !pastebinit | ibm
[01:53] <Anger_On_Ubuntu> ?
[01:54] <Darael> xisor: Yes, you can.  Lovely and easy.
[01:54] <xisor> Darael: cool, what other desktops are there that i can try?
[01:54] <jane_wayne78> anyone know what is the problem with 'error: domain 'ubuntu' does not exist' mean? i'm trying to install ubuntu desktop as a hvm guest os on xen
[01:54] <jane_wayne78> (following instructions from ubuntu's own site)
[01:54] <muelli> xisor: GNOME 3
[01:55] <xisor> muelli: isnt that what im already on with ubuntu?
[01:55] <Anger_On_Ubuntu> I think so
[01:55] <synack_> hey guys, i installed lunbuntu and there are some features from unity i would like to use , such as the snap to left or right with "super" arrow keys
[01:55] <muelli> xisor: nope. Likely not.
[01:55] <xisor> muelli: whaats the package name for the gnome 3 desktop?
[01:55] <Darael> xisor: gnome-shell, the default shell for gnome3.  LXDE.
[01:55] <synack_> do i need to upgrade the entire WM?
[01:55] <synack_> just to get that feature?
[01:55] <muelli> xisor: I think just "gnome".
[01:56] <synack_> also I am not loving the alt-tab interface that came with the WM in xubuntu
[01:56] <xisor> so i can sudo apt-get install gnome and then gnome will be a choice at the login menu?
[01:56] <Darael> xisor: Enlightenment (e17).  XFCE.  Any of the minimal window managers (fluxbox, openbox...).
[01:56] <synack_> i meant to say xubuntu, that is what i am using
[01:56] <muelli> xisor: yes :) Or click the link down there: http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/
[01:56] <xisor> Darael: whats the package name for enlightenment?
[01:56] <Darael> muelli: The ubuntu default is Gnome 3, but not gnome-shell.
[01:56] <muelli> Darael: wrong
[01:56] <Darael> xisor: e17.  And for Gnome 3, you want gnome-shell.
[01:57] <xisor> Darael: muelli yhou guys are confusing me now!
[01:57] <xisor> Darael: ok
[01:57] <Code_Factory> muelli: now thunderbird starts but as if the first time, I just remembered that I ran some updates today.. I think this is a profile issue, you think you can help me a bit?
[01:57] <ibm> muelli it is half in english and the other half in swedish but i think you will understand anyway i hope http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010578/
[01:57] <Darael> muelli: Pray tell how?
[01:57] <xisor> Darael:  and my programs and settings will be preserved even when i switch back and forth?
[01:58] <Darael> xisor: Yup, although I don't know how it handles default programs.  Some defaults may be different in different DEs, depending on the mechanism used.
[01:58] <muelli> Code_Factory: potentially. What does ls -l ~/.thunderbird/ tell you?
[01:58] <xisor> Darael: i have a configuring KDM thing in my terminal now.... what options do i choose?
[01:58] <xisor> kdm or lightdm?
[01:58] <muelli> ibm: if you run "export LC_ALL=C" before you run programs, you will get neat, english output.
[01:58] <Darael> xisor: I would stick with lightdm, especially if you're only trying out KDE.
[01:58] <Code_Factory> !pastebin
[01:58] <xisor> Darael: whats the difference?
[01:59] <Code_Factory> muelli : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010580/
[01:59] <Darael> xisor: Different programs, different GUI toolkits, different projects.
[01:59] <xisor> Darael: does kubuntu use lightdm by default as well?
[01:59] <Darael> muelli: It's interesting that you say that Unity is not GNOME 3, because:
[01:59] <Darael> !gnome3
[01:59] <Darael> muelli: ...the bot says otherwise.
[02:00] <muelli> Code_Factory: so there is one profile only. Check whether the profiles.ini actually lists that profile.
[02:00] <Darael> xisor: Nope, it uses kdm by default, hence it installing kdm, hence the popup.
[02:00] <Code_Factory> muelli: wow you're pretty popular here.. you're putting down fires everywhere, I wish I can help
[02:00] <ibm> muelli how do you mean i am not use to teminal command line
[02:00] <xisor> Darael: if i switch to kdm as the default will unity stop working if i switch back over?
[02:00] <muelli> ibm: hm. There is something wrong with "ubuntu-desktop". Maybe try to "apt-get install" it first..
[02:01] <Code_Factory> muelli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010584/
[02:01] <Darael> xisor: No, it won't, but there's no real reason to switch, especially if you think it won't be permanent.
[02:01] <xisor> Darael: im not sure if itll be permanent or not until i try it
[02:01] <xisor> Darael: can i change it later?
[02:01] <ibm> muelli i tried reinstall it without success to
[02:01] <muelli> Code_Factory: so that's the only profile.. Did you have another one..?
[02:01] <sparkybluefox> .
[02:01] <Darael> xisor: Yes... but I don't remember how!
[02:02] <Code_Factory> muelli: nope.. but it seems like its got the right stuff in it.. how can I make it work again?
[02:02] <Anger_On> Howdy all
[02:02] <sparkybluefox> I'm. I'm just hanging in here to learn something.
[02:02] <Anger_On> Same here. Hanging to learn something new
[02:03] <ibm> muelli i tried reinstall it ubuntu-desktop without success
[02:03] <muelli> Darael: well. Unity GNOME 3 uses GTK+-3, but that's basically about it. cf. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libunity-misc4 or the other unity packages. And GNOME 3 is of course the desktop including the shell. Using the libraries doesn't qualify as "GNOME 3".
[02:03] <ibm> muelli how do you mean i am not use to teminal command line
[02:03] <sparkybluefox> Welcome Anger_On
[02:03] <muelli> ibm: how do you know that it's without success?
[02:03] <ibm> muelli how do you mean i am not use to teminal command line
[02:04] <ibm> muelli how do you mean i am not use to teminal command line
[02:04] <muelli> Code_Factory: I don't understand. Did it work before? (if it did, you must have had a profile...)
[02:04] <Darael> muelli: GNOME is more than the shell, though, isn't it?  It's all the applications and libraries that go with it.  The major difference in Unity is the shell (and hence the WM), but all the apps are GNOME ones - not just GTK, mind, but GNOME-project.  It even uses gnome-control-center.
[02:05] <Code_Factory> muelli : it worked this morning!! I had almost 6 accounts setup and 4 calednars
[02:05] <ibm> muelli i tried to type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[02:05] <muelli> Darael: correct. Although Ubuntu uses to madly patch those things.
[02:05] <muelli> ibm: and can you pastebin the output...?
[02:05]  * sparkybluefox goes to sleep....nighty nite
[02:05] <rockets> My mouse cursor is huge, after switching to high contrast and back to the standard DMZ cursor
[02:05] <Darael> muelli: True.  But that's the case even if you run gnome-shell on Ubuntu.  It's still the Ubuntu versions, which may be patched.
[02:05] <rockets> none of the things I google seem to work or do anything
[02:06] <muelli> Code_Factory: hm. are you sure that you used the very same user and not, i.e. root via sudo?
[02:06] <xisor> heres a probably stupid question... why so many different distros of linux?
[02:06] <Anger_On> I have recently installed Lubuntu Netbook. I later installed gnome gnome-panel and gnome-shell. I dont have a theme for for the gnome panels... any ideas out there for how to get that piece functional?
[02:06] <rockets> xisor, yes, that is
[02:06] <Code_Factory> muelli : no, but while i'm trying to get it to start I tried a sudo :s was that a mistake?
[02:07] <muelli> Code_Factory: maybe.. You might have run thunderbird as root... Can you pastebin a "sudo ls -la ~root/.thunderbird/" for us?
[02:08] <Code_Factory> muelli : ls: cannot access /root/.thunderbird/: No such file or directory
[02:08] <einfeldt> Does anyone know how I edit my Ubuntu forum profile? http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=428457  thx in advance
[02:08] <zykotick9> !gksudo | Code_Factory
[02:08] <muelli> Code_Factory: hm. that is good. Sorry, I don't know then. It's weird.
[02:09] <wawowe> xisor: linux is just the kernel. the distros are gnu/linux configurations with different designs and goals
[02:09] <xisor> wawowe: im not sure i understand at all
[02:09] <Code_Factory> muelli : us?
[02:09] <Code_Factory> muelli :  well thank you very very much
[02:09] <Code_Factory> !gksudo
[02:09] <Anger_On> I have recently installed Lubuntu Netbook. I later installed gnome gnome-panel and gnome-shell. I dont have a theme for for the gnome panels... any ideas out there for how to get that piece functional?
[02:10] <muelli> Code_Factory: I can't really believe that a fully working profile just got los. You must have deleted it...
[02:10] <ibm> muelli ok but how do i get in english only
[02:10] <ibm> muelli ok but how do i get in english only
[02:10] <wawowe> xisor: the kernel is the center of the universe and the software is everything else
[02:10] <muelli> ibm: open a terminal and before you do anything, type "export LC_ALL=C"
[02:10] <Code_Factory> muelli : haven't touched it, can you tell me how I can check what updates I ran today?
[02:10] <ibm> muelli ok i try it now
[02:11] <muelli> Code_Factory: sure, but updates are unlikely to affect that... You have a log in /var/log/dpkg.log or the like.
[02:11] <escott> xisor, they all have different target groups. redhat is targeted towards corporations, ubuntu towards desktop users, debian is general purpose but has a strong focus on freedom and open source so things like mp3 playback are not standard, android is technically linux but very different from the others
[02:11] <muelli> Code_Factory: maybe you played around and configured your thunderbird as guest...
[02:11] <wawowe> xisor: not everyone likes jupitor
[02:11] <Code_Factory> muelli: thnx I'm Alex from Egypt
[02:11] <Code_Factory> muelli: no I didn't changed anything for a month now, only ubuntu updates
[02:12] <Anger_On> I have recently installed Lubuntu Netbook. I later installed gnome gnome-panel and gnome-shell. I dont have a theme for for the gnome panels... any ideas out there for how to get that piece functional?
[02:12] <xisor> wawowe: ive heard of one called gentoo too and someone told me i shouldnt even bother trying until i know linux very very well
[02:12] <muelli> O_o so are you telling me that your thunderbird worked for a month and now it lost your profile all of a sudden..?
[02:12] <xisor> escott: too sorry lol
[02:12] <Code_Factory> muelli:  I uninstalled qt
[02:13] <muelli> xisor: heh. I started to use GNU/Linux by installing gentoo :) It was worth it I'd say.
[02:13] <wawowe> xisor: a lot of people get to know linux very well in the first place by using something like gentoo
[02:13] <escott> xisor, gentoo and slackware are historically for hobbyists who want to know everything in and out, front to back, down to the smallest details. so not for a new user
[02:13] <xisor> muelli: is it harder to use than others or something?
[02:13] <Darael> xisor: Gentoo done right is lightning-fast, in general, because it's all compiled for your hardware.  On the other hand, you need to be able to handle the details.
[02:13] <xisor> escott: so i should stick with this to learn with?
[02:13] <muelli> xisor: hihi. well. Let's put it the other way: There is more to learn ;-)
[02:14] <reisio> mmm, Gentoo, my first and my last :D
[02:14] <escott> xisor, the #ubuntu channel says "stick with ubuntu" -- but we might be biased
[02:14] <ibm> muelli it does not work i get only this ibm@ibm-laptop:~$ export LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <ibm> bash: export: `apt-get': not a valid identifier
[02:14] <ibm> bash: export: `ubuntu-desktop': not a valid identifier
[02:14] <ibm> ibm@ibm-laptop:~$
[02:14] <muelli> ibm: sorry. Hit enter after the "export LC_ALL=C"
[02:14] <xisor> muelli: so ubuntu is the best option for me while i get the basics down then?
[02:14] <ibm> muelli ok i try it
[02:15] <muelli> xisor: the best option for you is the one that you're the most comfortable with. I can't tell you what you're comfortable with.
[02:15] <Darael> xisor: I'm going to go against the channel consensus.  Try different things.  As soon as you're happy with Ubuntu, take a look at something else - red-hat family, perhaps, since their packaging system is also large but entirely different from the Debian-family one.
[02:15] <xisor> muelli: all ive ever used is windows
[02:15] <wawowe> xisor: if you want to learn more you have to challenge yourself
[02:15] <Malsasa> Hello, i wanna compile a program from source in Maverick. Anybody can give me suggestion? What application I should compile?
[02:15] <Malsasa> I wanna learn compiling from source.
[02:15] <reisio> xisor: you might want to use Kubuntu then
[02:16] <Darael> Malsasa: GNU Hello?  The most bloated hello-world you've ever seen?
[02:16] <xisor> Darael: what about something i heard of called sabayon? its gentoo with a package manager added on or something
[02:16] <reisio> xisor: IME Windows users prefer KDE
[02:16] <zykotick9> !10.10 | Malsasa
[02:16] <Malsasa> GNU Hello is a program?
[02:16] <reisio> xisor: with binaries :p
[02:16] <muelli> Malsasa: ? you can compile anything, really.. apt-get source $package will get you the source of any package and "dpkg-builddep" (I think) will get you the necessary dependencies.
[02:16] <xisor> reisio: is that bad?
[02:16] <reisio> Malsasa: #friendly-coders
[02:16] <Darael> xisor: That's right, yes.  Sabayon is friendlier for your average user, do give it a go if you fancy a bit of an adventure.
[02:16] <reisio> xisor: no, it's just not a package manager :D Gentoo already has one
[02:16] <Darael> muelli: apt-get build-dep, actually, but kudos for mentioning it.
[02:17] <xisor> Darael: can i use the ubuntu usb loader program on a non ubuntu distro?
[02:17] <ibm> muelli i get it anyway in half english and half swedish what does i do wrong is it normal
[02:17] <reisio> xisor: Sabayon has a pretty streamlined install process, I couldn't speak to maintenance
[02:17] <xisor> Darael: i dont have an optical drive lol
[02:17] <Malsasa> Thank you, but I just wanna use Maverick only for learning. I dont need support.
[02:17] <reisio> xisor: you can use http://unetbootin.sf.net/ on most distros
[02:17] <Darael> xisor: Basically?  No.  Grab unetbootin from the repositories and use that instead.
[02:17] <muelli> hm. ibm. Might not be your fault. Give us the output anyway.
[02:17] <wawowe> xisor: if it's easy you won't get anything from it
[02:17] <zykotick9> Malsasa: using a distro without security is a bad idea
[02:17] <Malsasa> I just ask your suggestion: what application I can compile from source? I am newbie, and i wanna learn. Begin from the easy one.
[02:18] <eph3meral> how do I find out what patches are in a given package? I'm on ubuntu 1.5 and I'm using the ppa recommended by the winehq website.
[02:18] <reisio> Malsasa: why maverick?
[02:18] <xisor> Darael: ok
[02:18] <reisio> eph3meral: patches?
[02:18] <muelli> Malsasa: compile hello, world.
[02:18] <eph3meral> reisio, yep
[02:18] <Malsasa> zyco: Okay, but i plan Maverick will not connected to internet.
[02:18] <xisor> reisio: is sabayon worth trying?
[02:19] <Darael> eph3meral: I have never heard of an Ubuntu version 1.5 - are you sure about that?
[02:19] <reisio> xisor: there's no harm in _trying_ any distro :D
[02:19] <Malsasa> reisio: I use maverick so i can use old gnome.
[02:19] <eph3meral> reisio, this is what my instructions say
[02:19] <eph3meral> oops
[02:19] <eph3meral> sorry wine 1.5
[02:19] <eph3meral> ubuntu 11.10
[02:19] <eph3meral> Patches Required: http://uz.sns.it/~ranma42/iLoL/spectator-fix-v2/0001-ntdll-Improve-performace-of-heap-allocation-v2.patch http://uz.sns.it/~ranma42/iLoL/spectator-fix-v2/0002-imm32-Avoid-deadlock-when-destroying-thread-data.patch
[02:19] <Darael> xisor: Nearly all distros are worth at least a glance.  Go for it, and come to the dark^WGentoo side.
[02:19] <reisio> Malsasa: a less head-in-the-sand approach would be to try GNOME 3 with Cinnamon, or try Xfce
[02:19] <xisor> reisio: just plug in my usb hard drive and use unetbootin the same way i used the ubuntu usb program?
[02:19] <Malsasa> reisio: i want to get old ubuntu so i can update it little by little
[02:19] <eph3meral> i'm wondering how to tell whether the wine1.5 package has had those patches applied
[02:19] <Anger_On> Would anyone advise/recommend Arch Linux?
[02:20] <reisio> Malsasa: you'll have trouble with that
[02:20] <Malsasa> reisio: i don't want to use gnome 3 or cinnamon, i just want old gnome
[02:20] <muelli> eph3meral: you can apt-get source wine and see for yourself.
[02:20] <eph3meral> it actually looks like ubuntu has 1.5.5 and those patches are for 1.5.4
[02:20] <Malsasa> i wanna instal Mac4Lin
[02:20] <eph3meral> muelli, ok thanks
[02:20] <reisio> Anger_On: if you want rolling release / binaries / less cruft, sure
[02:20] <Malsasa> reisio: trouble on what?
[02:20] <xisor> Darael:  what do you mean the dark side?
[02:20] <Anger_On> less cruft?
[02:20] <reisio> Malsasa: mmm, but that's going to open you up to a lot of trouble
[02:20] <reisio> Anger_On: then Ubuntu, yes indeed
[02:20] <reisio> than*
[02:21] <reisio> Malsasa: maintenance and security will become tedious
[02:21] <Darael> xisor: I said nothing of the sort.  *shifty-eyes*.  Come, join us in the wonderful world of locally-compiled packages.
[02:21] <Malsasa> reisio: can you give me an example of trouble?
[02:21] <xisor> Darael: lol
[02:21] <reisio> Malsasa: you want a specific package but getting it would mean upgrading things that GNOME 2 needs at old versions
[02:21] <xisor> Darael:  kde or gnome? any reccomendation?
[02:21] <eph3meral> xisor, i recommend XFCE personally
[02:21] <reisio> Malsasa: or some kind of privilege escalation exploit is discovered in old GNOME 2 code and you can't update it
[02:22] <eph3meral> xisor, it kind of depends on what you like and what your needs are
[02:22] <reisio> xisor: coming from Windows, I'll say again you'll probably want KDE, but you can try them all simply enough
[02:22] <eph3meral> xisor, KDE looks pretty but doesn't work very well. GNOME just sucks these days. So I use XFCE :)
[02:22] <eph3meral> xisor, plus GNOME3 is really slow, as is Unity
[02:22] <Malsasa> reisio: haha, i just want to learn compiling, i dont care, really dont care with security. I plan no internet connection will be connected to Maverick :D
[02:22] <reisio> GNOME doesn't suck, it was just drastically changed, breaking trust with all its long time users :p
[02:22] <Darael> xisor: KDE's default setup is more Windows-like, GNOME's is good if you want to make a break.  Take yer pick.  I use e, when I can stand the increasing mouse-orientation, and flutter about a bit when I can't, spending most of that time in Unity, in the end.
[02:23] <reisio> Malsasa: I don't see what old GNOME has to do with compiling, but whatever
[02:23] <xubuntu-josh> I have a cr-48 with a multi-touchpad, how do I set it up to right click
[02:23] <reisio> GNOME is more Mac OS like
[02:23] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010606/
[02:23] <Malsasa> Haha, nono... I wanna do compiling app from source in Maverick. Just that.
[02:23] <Hoyt> is it possible to use a mouse from Mac , bluetooth paired perhaps
[02:23] <Darael> Malsasa: And you intend to get any libraries you need... how?  What about versions newer than were ever in Maverick?  This is the problem with using an unsupported release.
[02:23] <muelli> ibm: looks good :) And it's all english, no..?
[02:24] <reisio> xubuntu-josh: by configuring 'synaptics', possibly
[02:24] <Malsasa> reisio: yes, i wanna instal Mac4Lin in Maverick.
[02:24] <muelli> ibm: give us the output of "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop", too.
[02:24] <Anger_On> I have read that both Arch ang Gentoo are great albeit steep steps to take for really learning linux. I am a Windows SysAdmin that moonlights with Linux at home. Would the jump into arch/gentoo be advisable? My only experience so far has been Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu/Puppy.
[02:24] <xubuntu-josh> reisio: do you mean from a gui or a text file, I tried all of the settings under mouse
[02:24] <eph3meral> muelli, ok cool where does that go? /usr/src only has linux headers
[02:24] <Malsasa> :)
[02:25] <eph3meral> muelli, i just installed the source, all I need to do is find it now
[02:25] <muelli> eph3meral: it goes in your local working directory
[02:25] <bjorkintosh> someone mentioned it the other day, but i can't seem to find it anymore.
[02:25] <reisio> xubuntu-josh: text always works
[02:25] <yggdrasil> is gento still around ?
[02:25] <bjorkintosh> how do i reset the keyboard volume controls to the right device on my laptop?
[02:25] <eph3meral> oh, for real, yeah it does doesn't it :)
[02:25] <Malsasa> darael: hm hm, but i just wanna install maverick-era application. So i ask you to give me example what program i can compile
[02:25] <eph3meral> lol, thx muelli
[02:25] <bjorkintosh> the mute button does the correct thing, but fails to unmute.
[02:25] <Darael> Anger_On: Go for it!  It might be a bit of a shock, but you'll learn, oh how you'll learn.  Then, when you're happy with that, to get to know it all even better, build LFS!
[02:25] <yggdrasil> im still getting used to unity..
[02:26] <yggdrasil> i just inhertied a sick new laptop
[02:26] <yggdrasil> i have vmware workstation running on it, its amazing.
[02:26] <Anger_On> Ah, Linux From Scratch. Sounds great. Thanks fr the pointer!
[02:26] <xisor> Darael: i am downloading sabayon to try it :)
[02:26] <muelli> Malsasa: compile hello, world.
[02:27] <yggdrasil> i would mess with another distro, but i like stuff to towkr.
[02:27] <ibm> muelli yes only this one i tried a couple of time
[02:27] <ibm> muelli yes only this one i tried a couple of time
[02:27] <reisio> bjorkintosh: I forget if there's an X builtin for toggle mute, but you can always map it to alsa/pulse commandline toggle
[02:27] <yggdrasil> uh to work, im missing enough stuff with a full blown ubuntu distro.
[02:27] <muelli> ibm: give us the output of "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop", too.
[02:27] <Malsasa> muelli: i have done it.
[02:27] <bjorkintosh> reisio, how?
[02:27] <eph3meral> muelli, cool, I still have yet to thoroughly run through the packaging guide, I keep starting it and then never getting very far, too much other programming to do
[02:27] <muelli> Malsasa: great. Now you've learnt to compile.
[02:27] <Darael> Anger_On: I would advise getting happy with building software on Linux before doing LFS, mind.  Be that by Gentoo or just compiling the odd package, it doesn't matter, but be sure you know what you're doing.  It's possible to do LFS without having a clue what you're doing, but you learn much less.
[02:28] <Malsasa> I have done it.
[02:28] <eph3meral> muelli, do you happen to know if and or how I can add patches? i see the debian/patches folder
[02:28] <eph3meral> i'm wondering if you know the command to rebuild the package if I add a few patches to that folder
[02:28] <muelli> eph3meral: exactly :) If there is a "series" file, add the name of your patch and put it along the others.
[02:28] <eph3meral> ok great thanks
[02:28] <Malsasa> No, i ever fail and fail compiling program from tarball about 1 year...
[02:28] <muelli> eph3meral: dpkg-buildpackage or debuild.
[02:28] <eph3meral> muelli, ok cool thanks
[02:28] <Malsasa> Now i want to do it again
[02:29] <reisio> bjorkintosh: what's it mapped to now?
[02:29] <muelli> Malsasa: then follow the instructions in the README or INSTALL file more closely.
[02:29] <xisor> Darael: will you be able to help me with any gentoo related issues?
[02:29] <Malsasa> What application i should compile?
[02:29] <ibm> muelli please can you wait i need to reboot ubuntu i have internet problem with the connection i am back soon can you wait
[02:29] <reisio> xisor: you'll want #sabayon
[02:29] <xisor> Darael: im probably not allowed to ask for help for it in a ubuntu room lol
[02:29] <xisor> reisio: ok
[02:29] <muelli> ibm: nah. It's terribly late in my place. There are other knowledgable people in here.
[02:29] <Malsasa> muelli: i have done it many many times
[02:29] <bjorkintosh> reisio, it mutes it correctly
[02:29] <Malsasa> and i have failed
[02:29] <Malsasa> :)
[02:30] <reisio> bjorkintosh: it what
[02:30] <bjorkintosh> but it fails to unmute it.
[02:30] <Darael> xisor: Probably not (I'm going to bed very soon) but ask in /their/ channel, or (since you're grabbing sabayon), better yet, the Sabayon channel.
[02:30] <bjorkintosh> it, being the button on my laptop.
[02:30] <joint> does anybody here use Microsoft?
[02:30] <bjorkintosh> which has the 'mute' symbol on it.
[02:30] <Malsasa> muelli: Give me one example, a tarball easy to compile.
[02:30] <Zebers> Mircosoft is a company...
[02:30] <muelli> Malsasa: then either you haven't done it correctly or the instructinos are bad.
[02:30] <bjorkintosh> it's a dell inspiron 6000 laptop.
[02:30] <xisor> Darael: no i meant later on, since youve been helping me for awhile already
[02:30] <Zebers> call dell
[02:30] <xisor> Darael: not tonight neccesarily
[02:30] <Darael> joint: Microsoft what?  I don't use the company, but I occasionally have to use some of their products.
[02:30] <Malsasa> muelli: a program who dont need many dependencies...
[02:30] <muelli> Malsasa: just do "apt-get source" on anything, really...
[02:30] <xisor> Darael: remember you helped me with my smb shares last night
[02:30] <Zebers> which product specifically
[02:31] <xisor> Darael: where i almost had it working lol
[02:31] <Darael> xisor: Be happy to - but you're still probably better off asking in the Gentoo and Sabayon channels ;)
[02:31] <Malsasa> muelli: yes the answer is i haven't done it correctly
[02:31] <Malsasa> muelly: so i have to do it again :)
[02:31] <reisio> #gentoo doesn't usually like dealing with Sabayon-specific problems
[02:31] <xisor> Darael: can i use the same things i did to my fstab in sabayon for my samba shares?
[02:31] <reisio> until you can distinguish, probably best to stick to #sabayon
[02:31] <wawowe> Malsasa: apt-get install build-essential
[02:32] <muelli> Malsasa: you know what? You'd solve your problem much quicker if you actually told us *what* the problem is.. i.e. error messages or the like...
[02:32] <xisor> reisio: ok ill remember that
[02:32] <Malsasa> wawowe: i have it.
[02:32] <Zebers> Google.com    .....one stop resource!
[02:32] <Malsasa> muelli: my general problems is: no such files or directories
[02:33] <muelli> yeah. that's a very general problem...
[02:33] <Malsasa> wawowe: i have the debs, so i can install it anytime i want. Thank you.
[02:33] <wawowe> Malsasa: wget http://www.6809.org.uk/evilwm/evilwm-1.1.0.tar.gz
[02:33] <wawowe> Malsasa: tar xvf evilwm*
[02:33] <Darael> xisor: Probably, although you'll need to install things, of course.
[02:33] <wawowe> Malsasa: cd evilwm*; ./configure && make
[02:33] <Malsasa> wawowe: Thats It! I need an example like what you show to me!
[02:34] <xisor> Darael: ok
[02:34] <Malsasa> wawowe: Thank you, thank you!
[02:34] <Zebers> try backtrack 5... mother of conflicts
[02:34] <xisor> Darael: 64bit sabayon ok to start with or should i grab x86 instead?
[02:34] <Malsasa> wawowe: an example like this i need.
[02:34] <reisio> xisor: 64 if you have a 64-bit proc
[02:34] <xisor> reisio: i dont have any 32 bit cpus left in my house
[02:34] <Malsasa> wawowe: this application needs what dependencies? Sorry i am newbie.
[02:34] <xisor> reisio: and i have ALOT of devices lol
[02:34] <reisio> xisor: :p
[02:34] <wawowe> Malsasa: x11-dev
[02:34] <Darael> xisor: I'm not intimately familiar with Sabayon, but there's rarely a good reason to choose a 32-bit distro over a 64-bit one these days.
[02:34] <xisor> reisio: i think i banned them 6 years ago or so :P
[02:35] <wawowe> Malsasa: apt-get install libx11-dev
[02:35] <Malsasa> wawowe: i have downloaded evilwm.
[02:35] <xisor> Darael: k ty for the help the last few days
[02:35] <xisor> Darael: got one more question.... how do i install it alongside ubuntu without breaking anything?
[02:36] <xisor> Darael: will the sabayon installer be able to do it?
[02:36] <wawowe> Malsasa: actually there's no configure script. so just "make"
[02:36] <Darael> xisor: If it's got a good installer, it should be able to handle that.  If not, ask the sabayon channel folks, 'cos I don't know if their distro needs any odd handling.
[02:36] <Malsasa> wawowe: Hmm, that is the dependency?Only one app?
[02:36] <xisor> Darael: ok
[02:36] <wawowe> Malsasa: it's the perfect window manager imo :)
[02:36] <Zebers> phiscribe ur IP is displayed upon login...
[02:37] <reisio> xisor: if you keep an eye out for not deleting Ubuntu during partitioning, the worst you have to worry about is fixing GRUB afterwards
[02:37] <muelli> Malsasa: why don't you just try for yourself and come back if you do have problems..?
[02:37] <xisor> Darael: ill go ahead and assume the liveDVD install has a working web browser in it so i can get to freenode:P
[02:37] <Malsasa> wawowe: Hm, thanks, thanks...
[02:37] <muelli> O_o I'd use an IRC client for that...
[02:37] <Darael> xisor: Should do.  This being a Gentoo-family distro, it's probably got an IRC client on it, too.  I favour irssi myself.
[02:37] <EliahKagan> xisor: yes, the Ubuntu desktop CD and DVD both have Firefox
[02:37] <xisor> muelli: im on webchat.freenode.net :P seemed the easiest way since freenode is literally the only irc server ill ever connect to
[02:37] <EliahKagan> xisor: if a web interface is what you want to use
[02:37] <phiscribe> arent most peoples shown without jumping thru hoops Zebers?
[02:38] <ibm> muelli ok i am back what do you want me to put in the terminal
[02:38] <Zebers> not from what i c
[02:38] <EliahKagan> xisor: you can also install an IRC client like xchat, inside the live environment
[02:38] <Darael> EliahKagan: We're actually rather offtopic, talking about trying sabayon!
[02:38] <muelli> xisor: well. not a compelling reason to use a webbrowser...
[02:38] <Malsasa> muelli: i have done it for many times and fault at all, this is my  problems :) So i ask now :D
[02:38] <muelli> Malsasa: not a good approach.
[02:38] <EliahKagan> Darael: oh ;-)
[02:38] <muelli> ibm: apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop
[02:38] <Malsasa> muelli: Yes, it is true.
[02:39] <xisor> is konversation a bad irc client? lol its built in with kde and im getting sabayon with kde
[02:39] <Darael> !best | xisor
[02:39] <reisio> xisor: it's not the most popular, but it'll do
[02:39] <xisor> Darael: how the heck do you know all the bot commands?
[02:39] <Darael> xisor: If it works, use it.  It works.  Personally, I think irssi works better, but I'm a terminal junkie.
[02:39] <reisio> xisor: you won't be forced to use it, of course
[02:39] <ibm> muelli please can you explain you i do that what do i need to type
[02:40] <Darael> xisor: Spending far too long in this channel, of course.
[02:40] <muelli> ibm: apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <xisor> Darael: lol
[02:40] <Polak> 'scuse me, is there a french chann for Ubuntu?
[02:40] <ibm> muelli ok thanks
[02:40] <muelli> !fr | Polak
[02:40] <Polak> thx
[02:40] <Darael> muelli: Curses, beaten to it.
[02:40] <xisor> Darael: my first experience with IRC was decades ago, havent been on an irc server in years before yesterday
[02:40] <EliahKagan> Is there a list of ubotto commands I can look at? I feel like sometimes i should use one instead of saying some long thing myself. Is there an ubotto command to list them?
[02:40] <zykotick9> !bot | EliahKagan
[02:41] <EliahKagan> thx zykotick9
[02:41] <Darael> EliahKagan: ...which is to say, no, but there's a webpage.
[02:42] <xisor> they should build ubottu into ubuntu
[02:42] <xisor> like the talking paperclip in old versions of word
[02:42] <xisor> lol
[02:42] <Darael> xisor: Oh, $DEITY.  Please no.
[02:42] <reisio> xisor: obligatory: http://pingvinoff.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Vi_interface.gif
[02:43] <xisor> lmao
[02:43] <xisor> thats amazing
[02:43] <xisor> was that real or fake reisio ?
[02:43] <reisio> xisor: it was fake, wouldn't surprise me if someone's made it real by now
[02:43] <xisor> reisio: its funny tho
[02:43] <reisio> yes :p
[02:43] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010625/
[02:44] <xisor> :D
[02:44] <muelli> hm. looks all good to me. can you do the upgrade thing again, which failed..?
[02:44] <Darael> reisio, xisor:  Dunno about vi, but it's /surely/ been made for emacs by now.
[02:44] <reisio> heh
[02:44] <xHide> my amsn not conect
[02:44] <xHide> whats a problem?
[02:45] <xHide> i fron brazil
[02:45] <xHide> se tiver algum brazuca ae pra me da uma for?a
[02:45] <muelli> !pt | xHide
[02:45] <xHide> ok
[02:45] <xHide> 1 user
[02:46] <xHide> =S
[02:48] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010625/
[02:48] <muelli> ibm: try a normal upgrade using the "do_release_upgrade" or whatever it's called.
[02:49] <ibm> muelli but i already did do you want the output now
[02:49] <xHide> shittt
[02:49] <muelli> ibm: yes. again. in english.
[02:50] <dw2> Ubuntu 12.04 new install: Anyone have any idea why desktop search tracker miners seem to be permanently Idle
[02:50] <dw2> ?
[02:51] <dw2> tracker-control gives
[02:51] <dw2> Found 168 PIDs…
[02:51] <dw2> Found process ID 2151 for 'tracker-miner-fs'
[02:51] <dw2> Found process ID 2168 for 'tracker-store'
[02:51] <dw2> Store:
[02:51] <dw2> 28 May 2012, 03:51:20:  ✓     Store                 - Idle
[02:51] <FloodBot1> dw2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:51] <dw2> Miners:
[02:51] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010636/
[02:52] <Darael> dw2: tracker-miner-fs may have done its mining and be waiting for inotify events from the kernel to tell it when files are changed?  Just a guess.
[02:52] <muelli> hm ibm. What does "sudo find -ls /var/log/dist-upgrade/" give you?
[02:52] <Darael> dw2: Tracker-store would be waiting for something to interact with it, of course.
[02:52] <angeron> howdy
[02:52] <dw2> Darael: thanks, but problem is that it never seems to find any hit if I search by content
[02:53] <Darael> dw2: Not that, then.  Haven't a clue, sorry.  My understanding is that tracker's been buggy for yonks, which always put me off trying to grok it.
[02:53] <dw2> I get the impression that the file content index does not exist and is not being built at all
[02:54] <dw2> darael: do you know of an alternative for fulltext indexing?
[02:54] <dw2> pther than tracker, I mean - on 12.04?
[02:54] <Darael> dw2: 'fraid not.  'Specially for multiple filetypes.  I'm sure there are several if everything's in plain text, but that's no help
[02:55] <dw2> Darael: well even plain text would be a good start?
[02:56] <Darael> dw2: Actually, an axi-cache search turns up both recoll and doodle, which look like they'd do the job.
[02:56] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010640/
[02:56] <dw2> specially since a lot of the stuff I write myself is in latex, which can be indexed as plaintext
[02:56] <muelli> ah, sorry ibm
[02:56] <dw2> Darael: thanks I will look into those too
[02:56] <dw2> those two
[02:56] <muelli> hm ibm. What does "sudo find /var/log/dist-upgrade/ -ls" give you?
[02:56] <Darael> dw2: Those two too, perhaps?
[02:56]  * dw2 nods
[02:57] <dw2> Actually 99% of file content that I want to search for is usually either in plain ASCII text, or pdf
[02:58] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010642/
[02:59] <muelli> ibm:  pastebin us /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/main.log and /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/apt.log
[03:02] <bjorkintosh> i've narrowed the problem down
[03:02] <dw2> Darael: from reading install info I have decided to give Recoll a trial - seems it might do pdf too with some "external helper" - Thanks again
[03:03] <bjorkintosh> here's the thing.. amixer set Master toggle, mutes the sound.
[03:03] <bjorkintosh> but amixer set Master toggle failes to unmute the sound!
[03:03] <Darael> dw2: No probs.  Good luck.
[03:03] <bjorkintosh> what could be the matter?
[03:03] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010646/
[03:03] <joobie> hey guys.. can anyone suggest a good way to get a file from siteA to siteB securely? I don't want to go to the extent of establishing a VPN between both sites - trying to do this with minimal effort but retaining security
[03:03] <bjorkintosh> joobie, sftp.
[03:04] <bjorkintosh> setup your machine as the host.
[03:04] <bjorkintosh> if you can.
[03:04] <joobie> i was thinking about GPG'ing the file and then sending it over email.. not sure if GPG is still considered secure and if so, if it's a good way
[03:04] <muelli> ibm: nah, do smth like pastebinit /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/main.log ; pastebinit  /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/apt.log
[03:04] <bjorkintosh> joobie, first of all, how big is the file?
[03:04] <muelli> joobie: scp
[03:05] <Valvalus> hey ... pretty simple question ... I need to write a VERY basic Java server that accepts connections and maybe writes some files. I have a Ubuntu server. What package(s) do I need to download and what's the best way to get them? sudo apt-get I'm guessing?
[03:05] <joobie> bjorkintosh, few hundred meg
[03:05] <joobie> muelli, SCP requires a SSHD which is too much effort for this project
[03:05] <ibm> muelli i do not understand can you please explain
[03:05] <joobie> want to try avoid having to install daemons for this to wokr / servers
[03:05] <lorddelta> snowblower?
[03:05] <ibm> muelli i do not understand can you please explain what should i type
[03:05] <jstarcher> can I use rsync to backup the entire  root filesystem if I'm pushing it over the network to a remote server
[03:05] <matthewvz> having a bit of a problem, Used the windows installer, reboot and I reboot ut starts saying "Kernel panic - VFS: Unable to mount root fs on known-block(0,0)" Any help?
[03:05] <bjorkintosh> joobie, do you have sshd on your machine?
[03:06] <bjorkintosh> it takes just a couple of minutes to get that up and running.
[03:06] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: amixer set Master unmute
[03:06] <ibm> muelli i do not understand can you please explain what should i type
[03:06] <bjorkintosh> wawowe, that changed the icon, but did not unmute it.
[03:06] <bjorkintosh> i think it's a bug.
[03:06] <joobie> bjorkintosh, no SSHD
[03:06] <joobie>  on my machine
[03:07] <bjorkintosh> joobie, if you're running ubuntu, it's incredibly easy to set up.
[03:07] <joobie> bjorkintosh, trying to avoid it
[03:07] <joobie> it's a windows machine at each site, i think
[03:07] <ibm> muelli i do not understand can you please explain what should i type
[03:08] <elky> ibm, a. stop repeating. b. he did. The characters after "like"
[03:08] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: can alsamixer unmute it?
[03:08] <bjorkintosh> joobie, never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes speeding down the highway.
[03:08] <bjorkintosh> wawowe, i don't know how. it just changes the icon from "x" to )).
[03:08] <bjorkintosh> but does not unmute it.
[03:09] <bjorkintosh> joobie, a sneakernet might be necessary :)
[03:09] <ibm> elky i do not understand i am not use to command line
[03:09] <wawowe> ibm: pastebinit /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/main.log ; pastebinit  /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/apt.log
[03:09] <elky> ibm, copy and paste "pastebinit /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/main.log ; pastebinit  /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/apt.log" (without the ") into the terminal and press enter. then tell us the pastebin links
[03:10] <joobie> sneakernet?
[03:10] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: with alsamixer go to master and hit >
[03:10] <ibm> i deed i think is this not it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010646/
[03:10] <elky> joobie, aka walking.
[03:11] <elky> ibm, you didn't do what I said there
[03:11] <pranjal710> how do i change my screen resolution in ubuntu 10.04??
[03:11] <elky> pranjal710, nvidia?
[03:12] <bjorkintosh> hah.
[03:12] <pranjal710> yup
[03:12] <elky> nvidia-settings
[03:12] <bjorkintosh> that's really odd.
[03:12] <bjorkintosh> it seems on clicking mute, it sets 3 different things to mute.
[03:12] <wawowe> ibm: what's your plan?
[03:12] <bjorkintosh> and only unmutes 1 of them when i click '<'
[03:12] <bjorkintosh> that's annoying.
[03:12] <reisio> ibm: can has some patents?
[03:12] <pranjal710> elky: it says "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server." but when
[03:12] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: don't use toggle
[03:13] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: use mute and unmute
[03:13] <Madpilot> Any other Shuttle xPC users around? I'm trying to figure out if you can get a CPU temp out of the thing...
[03:13] <pranjal710> elky: but when I do as root, it gives an erro
[03:13] <ibm> elky can you please explain explain what i should type
[03:13] <pranjal710> error*
[03:13] <elky> ibm, <elky> ibm, copy and paste "pastebinit /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/main.log ; pastebinit  /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/apt.log" (without the ") into the terminal and press enter. then tell us the pastebin links
[03:13] <wawowe> ibm: pastebinit /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/main.log ; pastebinit  /var/log/dist-upgrade/20120528-0450/apt.log
[03:13] <Chorca> having an odd issue on an HP dv2600 laptop.. upon boot of the installer, the screen shows the desktop and then it's covered in green and black blocks, and has serious graphics corruption... it has a nvidia 8400 gs inside I believe.
[03:13] <bjorkintosh> wawowe, same problem.
[03:13] <Chorca> Not sure how to disable compiz in the installer
[03:14] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: mute PCM instead
[03:14] <elky> pranjal710, what's your current kernel?
[03:14] <bjorkintosh> amixer pcm mute?
[03:15] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: amixer set PCM mute
[03:15] <bjorkintosh> same problem.
[03:15] <bjorkintosh> i think it's a bug.
[03:16] <bjorkintosh> it mutes correctly.
[03:16] <Ubuntu_Lover> Hello everyone my Cpu is Intel Core i3 2100  @ 3.10GHz with 4 Gb Ram ddr 3 do i nee the 64 or 32 bit of latest ubuntu?
[03:16] <bjorkintosh> but fails to unmute when i ask it to.
[03:16] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010654/ should i maybe use gedit or something i already have
[03:16] <pranjal710> elky: 2.6.32-21-generic
[03:16] <Ubuntu_Lover> need*
[03:16] <Ubuntu_Lover> wich of the 2 i have to choose?
[03:16] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: amixer set Master 0%
[03:17] <RBV> Ubuntu_Lover: 64
[03:17] <Ubuntu_Lover> thanks you think with the monster pc i have ubuntu will work like charm RBV ?
[03:17] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: amixer set Master 100%
[03:17] <elky> pranjal710, oh, last LTS :-/ i can't remember back that far, sorry
[03:17] <bjorkintosh> i think i'll have to do that.
[03:17] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010655/
[03:18] <IHateHavingToReg> how can i tell from the cmd line if i have a 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu system?
[03:18] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010654/ should i maybe use gedit or something i already have
[03:18] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010655/
[03:18] <bjorkintosh> thanks wawowe
[03:18] <pranjal710> elky: should I upgrade my kernel? Will that solve the problem?
[03:18] <wawowe> IHateHavingToReg: uname -i
[03:18] <elky> pranjal710, you're using Lucid, yes?
[03:18] <IHateHavingToReg> i386 = 32-bit?
[03:18] <pranjal710> yes
[03:19] <pranjal710> elky: yes
[03:19] <wawowe> IHateHavingToReg: yes
[03:19] <IHateHavingToReg> ok thanks
[03:19] <elky> pranjal710, and no, updating just your kernel isn't going to make something available after lucid be available for lucid
[03:19] <Ubuntu_Lover> My curiousity  is how will ubuntu lastest work on  Intel Core i3 2100  @ 3.10GHz 4 Gb Kingstone DDR 3 Mother BoardASUSTeK Computer INC. V6-P8H61ELX (LGA1155) Will i notice super  speed vs Windows 7 ?
[03:20] <elky> hrm, google says it should be available on lucid...
[03:20] <Ubuntu_Lover> as i got a pretty good pc for now days will i notice allot of improvement in speed multi tasking etc vs Windows 7 expecially with Flash and Java based apps?
[03:21] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010654/ should i maybe use gedit or something i already have
[03:21] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010654/ should i maybe use gedit or something i already have
[03:21] <pranjal710> elky: I have used 11.10 and everything worked fine in that version, but when I installed 10.04, and audio just vanished and pc always says "running in low resolution mode"   :(
[03:21] <ibm> muelli here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010655/
[03:21] <FloodBot1> ibm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:21] <Ubuntu_Lover> anyone can answer my question?
[03:21] <elky> pranjal710, well, 10.04 is several versions behind 11.10
[03:22] <xangua> ibm: did you read the message¿
[03:22] <OerHeks> Ubuntu_Lover, i3 is not that powerfull
[03:22] <wawowe> ibm: what is your goal?
[03:23] <bjorkintosh> Ubuntu_Lover, depends on what your'e doing doesn't it?
[03:23] <Ubuntu_Lover> well it's a medium good pc for now days i do basic stuff
[03:23] <Ubuntu_Lover> will i notice big difference vs windows 7?
[03:23] <xangua> Ubuntu_Lover: try it and see for yourseld
[03:23] <xangua> yourself
[03:24] <pranjal710> elky: anyways thanks. .. seems I am on my own now
[03:24] <Ubuntu_Lover> ok my other question is i  like use chrome over firefox can i remove firefox from the os ?
[03:24] <OerHeks> Ubuntu_Lover, sure
[03:24] <elky> pranjal710, it is LTS, so technically still supported by canonical. just no volunteers around now remembers way back then :)
[03:24] <Ubuntu_Lover> you advise me get i7?
[03:24] <bjorkintosh> Ubuntu_Lover, you can do _anything_ but don't expect everything to be easy.
[03:24] <Ubuntu_Lover> over i3?
[03:24] <bjorkintosh> and you'll be fine.
[03:25] <ibm> wawowe i do not now why muelli does not respond anymore but i have problem to upgrade ubuntu to the last version
[03:25] <Ubuntu_Lover> ok ill go install brb
[03:25] <wawowe> ibm: muelli went to bed
[03:26] <OerHeks> Ubuntu_Lover, i don like the intel range with build in GPU
[03:26] <ibm> wawowe can you help me
[03:26] <wawowe> ibm: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:28] <ibm> wawowe can i use gedit to do that i do not have pastebinit
[03:28] <wawowe> ibm: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:29] <Ketsueki_K> anyone familiar with SFML here?
[03:30] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010665/
[03:32] <OerHeks> from 7.10 to 8.04 ?
[03:32] <wawowe> ibm: lsb_release
[03:33] <wawowe> ibm: lsb_release -a
[03:33] <wawowe> ibm: lsb_release -r
[03:33] <ibm> wawowe i am not use to command line can please explain should i type only lsb_release -r without sudo
[03:34] <wawowe> ibm: yes, without sudo
[03:35] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010675/
[03:36] <wawowe> ibm: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak
[03:37] <benwalburn> I installed the kubuntu desktop to check it out. Turns out I hate it. I've been going through and trying to remove all its packages and I want to know if there's a simpler way
[03:38] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010678/
[03:38] <xangua> !puregnome | benwalburn
[03:38] <reisio> benwalburn: and go back to... what?
[03:38] <benwalburn> my wonderful unity of course :)
[03:39] <reisio> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[03:39] <benwalburn> thank you
[03:40] <dejahnue> benwalburn, just curious, what did you find undesirable about kubuntu?
[03:40] <benwalburn> too windowish
[03:40] <dejahnue> how so?
[03:40] <benwalburn> and I favor Unity's shortcuts
[03:41] <reisio> shortcuts are configurable
[03:41] <dejahnue> it what respects is it too windowish?
[03:41] <reisio> dejahnue: compared to GNOME?
[03:41] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010678/
[03:41] <dejahnue> compared to unity
[03:41] <mangdood> Hi, for some reason, xspim isn't running on either of my computers; it just prints out a font on the terminal and exits with an error code
[03:42] <reisio> dejahnue: "Unity" is mostly GNOME
[03:42] <reisio> and if anything it makes GNOME even _more_ like Mac OS
[03:42] <benwalburn> dejahnue, the "start" menu. I've always hated it in windows, felt wrong. KDE is slightly better, but not quite what I want
[03:43] <mangdood> benwalburn: What do you expect, exactly, if I may ask
[03:43] <dejahnue> you want nothing with the function of a start menu?
[03:43] <wawowe> ibm: sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aqY0HfvB
[03:43] <izzaboo_> reisio, to help with that (using Lubuntu) I moved the panel with the 'start' menu to the top of the screen.
[03:43] <reisio> heh
[03:45] <dejahnue> benwalburn, I think you can get the afterstep window manager, it has an app-dock instead of a start menu
[03:45] <benwalburn> besides being better than windows UI, I expected nothing from KDE. It lived up to that expectation, I just can't imagine using it instead of Unity. I prefer my Dash and HUD, etc
[03:45] <xangua> !ot | benwalburn dejahnue
[03:46] <dejahnue> xangua, it was ubuntu-related. he was talking about why he liked unity better
[03:46] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010681/
[03:46] <xangua> wawowe: how is mixing lucid and precice repositoes helpful¿
[03:46] <izzaboo_> benwalburn, the psychocats pureubuntu pages are more comprehensive imo
[03:46] <benwalburn> dejahnue, afterstep seems interesting...
[03:47] <wawowe> xangua: removed the lucid repo
[03:47] <dejahnue> you can (I think) run afterstep on ubuntu
[03:47] <wawowe> xangua: the plan is to upgrade
[03:47] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010681/
[03:48] <xangua> wawowe: sounds like a bad plan the one you have if by upgrade you mean replace one version repositories by another
[03:48] <benwalburn> alright, I seem to have all the kde stuff gone, thank you everyone
[03:48] <dejahnue> benwalburn, afterstep is just a window manager for X, usable under ubuntu
[03:48] <wawowe> xangua: what's wrong with it? that's how i've always upgraded debian
[03:50] <wawowe> ibm: sudo apt-get update
[03:52] <xangua> ibm: i predict you you will have a very broken desktop thanks to wawowe
[03:53] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010685/
[03:54] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010685/
[03:54] <xangua> ibm: oh gosh please don't keep doing that
[03:55] <stormchas2000> what room would i goto to ask about mupen64plus as i am having problems with several games
[03:55] <reisio> stormchas2000: /msg alis list *mupen*
[03:56] <trism> mangdood: sudo apt-get install xfonts-75dpi xfonts-100dpi; (I also had to restart my xserver after that and then xspim worked), see bug 824084
[03:57] <wawowe> xangua: how would you do it?
[03:58] <xangua> wawowe: i would go back in time and prevent to you to tell it that
[03:58] <stormchas2000> thanks, i should have thought about that
[03:58] <wawowe> xangua: nothing has been done yet :p
[03:59] <wawowe> xangua: after this is the point of no return tho
[03:59] <xangua> wawowe: just replaced it's sources right
[03:59] <wawowe> xangua: what would be right?
[04:01] <ibm> xangua what do you mean has wawowe brook something
[04:03] <wawowe> ibm: no, but xangua is worried that if we continue, it will break
[04:04] <ibm> wawowe did you see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010685/
[04:04] <wawowe> ibm: yes
[04:05] <xangua> ibm: how did you exactly upgrade to lucid in first place¿
[04:06] <ibm> xangua what is lucid witch version do you mean by that
[04:06] <xangua> ibm: the current ubuntu version you use
[04:07] <wawowe> xangua: from the look of the old sources.list, it was done in a similar way
[04:07] <ibm> xangua i just upgraded it with the simple update tool
[04:08] <ircnode0> I tried some amixer commands, but now I can bring sound back after "amixer set Master toggle". Tried toggle command again, but no use. Somebody help me to get sound back?
[04:08] <Harrison> Sup people!
[04:08] <wawowe> ircnode0: use alsamixer
[04:08] <ircnode0> *but no I can't bring sound...
[04:08] <wawowe> ircnode0: and to mute and unmute use: amixer set Master 0%
[04:08] <ircnode0> wawowe: I went there and set master very high
[04:08] <wawowe> ircnode0: amixer set Master 100%
[04:09] <wawowe> ibm: apt-get install screen
[04:09] <gulzar> anyone using httrack? I want download  different-link pages in the same folder. But when 2nd page is downloaded it removes the first.. and 3rd removes 1st and 2nd. Any way to have all the downloaded pages in one folder?
[04:10] <ircnode0> wawowe: tested amixer set Master 100% and went to youtube, but no sound at all
[04:10] <Harrison> everyone try this apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop & lxde & xfce-common & gnome-shell
[04:10] <wawowe> ircnode0: use alsamixer to unmute everything
[04:11] <wawowe> ircnode0: with >
[04:11] <ibm> wawowe should i type that or are asking me how i upgrade it i did not use the command line at all just the simple way with update manager i think it is called why
[04:12] <wawowe> ibm: it's fine, the gui updater does the same stuff
[04:12] <wawowe> ibm: forget about that last command
[04:12] <ircnode0> wawowe: It works thanks man
[04:13] <gulzar> Harrison: why?
[04:13] <wawowe> ibm: try running: screen
[04:14] <ibm> wawowe can i downgrade the update to be maybe able to upgrade then to the last ubuntu version are they something like restore back
[04:15] <ibm> wawowe should i type only screen without sudo
[04:15] <wawowe> without
[04:15] <ibm> wawowe ok i am trying that
[04:15] <sx2020> what are best practices for where to install software in ubutu file system?  such as apps and utilities ?
[04:15] <wawowe> ibm: do you have enough room for a backup?
[04:18] <xangua> (22:48:37) wawowe: xangua: what's wrong with it? that's how i've always upgraded debian - this is not debian, it's ubuntu ibm
[04:18] <wawowe> xangua: ubuntu is debian based
[04:18] <wawowe> xangua: same package manager
[04:19] <wawowe> can upgrade any debian system like this
[04:19] <wawowe> altho sometimes there are complications if you have to upgrade a long way
[04:19] <xangua> wawowe: i don't thin you will suggest upgrade debian woody to squeez by just replacin the release name, would you; you skipping too many releases
[04:19] <phiscribe> sx2020: using the package manger, let it manage it is the best practice, or are you talking about compling your own
[04:20] <wawowe> xangua: this isn't that far
[04:20] <wawowe> xangua: but if it were me i would start just like i suggested, but being prepared to have to fix stuff
[04:20] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010707/
[04:20] <wawowe> xangua: i doubt woody is capable of upgrading any other way
[04:21] <ZombieRamen> i'm having a problem with the temperature on my clock applet displaying as "--" instead of the temperature
[04:21] <phiscribe> i hate upgrading to a new release, i mostly go clean install
[04:21] <xangua> wawowe: how about etch to squeeze, neither sounds like a good idea
[04:21] <wawowe> ibm: hit the spacebar
[04:21] <ZombieRamen> i'm running on clock applet version 2.32.1, and i have my location properly set
[04:22] <ZombieRamen> i've tried restarting the applet and gnome-panel
[04:22] <wawowe> xangua: i've done etch to squeeze just like this actually
[04:22] <wawowe> xangua: and squeeze to lenny
[04:22] <ibm> wawowe i deed i put it in on the same
[04:23] <ibm> wawowe just look more down
[04:24] <wawowe> ibm: apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:24] <wawowe> wait
[04:25] <wawowe> ibm ^
[04:25] <ibm> wawowe after hitting the second time to the spacebar it exit to the command line i tried that before and do-release-upgrade -d without success but i can try again
[04:26] <wawowe> ibm: that script may not work right with your sources.list modified
[04:26] <wawowe> ibm: and it wasn't working before for the same reason
[04:27] <wawowe> ibm: sudo apt-get install apt dpkg
[04:29] <ibm> wawowe wait maybe i can upgrade now but it wants to remove stuff should i type yes http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010711/
[04:29] <wawowe> just realized i mixed up squeeze and lenny
[04:30] <wawowe> ibm: hit no
[04:30] <wawowe> ibm: did you run: sudo apt-get install apt dpkg
[04:30] <wawowe> first
[04:32] <ibm> wawowe no should i do that
[04:32] <wawowe> ibm: yes run this first: sudo apt-get install apt dpkg
[04:33] <ZeloZelos> i accidently hit the check mark to never ask again about when i hit the x to close xchat, and now when i hit the x it just minimizes, how do i undo this?
[04:35] <xangua> !info xchat-insticator | ZeloZelos
[04:35] <xangua> !info xchat-indicator
[04:35] <ibm> wawowe wait it wants to upgrade the update tool should i answer yes i want you to the screen but i do not now how to
[04:35] <dejahnue> ZeloZelos, probably resetable in the ~/.xchat2/ conf files, give me a few minutes and I can check
[04:36] <ZeloZelos> nvm dejahnue i found it, its /set gui_quit_dialog set to: 1
[04:36] <wawowe> ibm: pastebin the output
[04:36] <ZeloZelos> thank you though
[04:37] <ibm> wawowe i can not it is like a picture
[04:37] <dejahnue> ZeloZelos, it's called the same thing in xchat.conf
[04:37] <ZeloZelos> ah kewll
[04:38] <wawowe> ibm: what exactly does it say?
[04:39] <dixoncx> Need help regarding bluetooth on my laptop. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11972551
[04:39] <wawowe> ibm: last line
[04:39] <ibm> wawowe how can i take a screen shot so you can see
[04:40] <wawowe> ibm: if imagemagic is installed you can open another terminal and type: import
[04:41] <ibm> wawowe i do not now that but i know there is w
[04:41] <ibm> wawowe i do not now that but i know there is a way to take a screen shot so you see everything
[04:43] <wawowe> ibm: is it a text box asking you for a yes or no answer?
[04:44] <ibm> wawowe i toke a screen shot it is a png file were can put it so you can see it
[04:45] <sary> you can upload it and share the link using imgur.com
[04:46] <wawowe> ibm: ^^
[04:46] <ibm> no there is a paste tool thing like http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[04:46] <wawowe> http://imgur.com
[04:48] <ibm> wawowe here is the link http://imgur.com/6sxf3
[04:48] <spdupee> is there a way to do a fresh install from within ubuntu?
[04:48] <spdupee> I upgraded and have have had nothing but problems
[04:49] <wawowe> spdupee: yes but it'll be work
[04:49] <dejahnue> if you did it wouldn't be fresh
[04:49] <Erealz> lol 1204 has a load of em.
[04:49] <Erealz> i get costant crashes
[04:49] <wawowe> ibm: hit cancel
[04:50] <ibm> wawowe why it seems ok is it not an upgrade what is it
[04:50] <spdupee> I get nothing but crashes.  I had one so bad that it took my system out for a week
[04:50] <wawowe> ibm: you need to upgrade apt and dpkg before you do anything else
[04:51] <wawowe> ibm: hit cancel
[04:51] <Erealz> spdupee, downgrade to 1004
[04:51] <ibm> wawowe ok i do that
[04:51] <wawowe> ibm: sudo apt-get install apt dpkg
[04:51] <dejahnue> spdupee, ubuntu might be showing you you have hardware troubles
[04:51] <OerHeks> 12.04 works fine here
[04:52] <sary> dixoncx: what if you keep the hadrware switch truned on from windows , and then see what rfkill list shows .
[04:52] <wawowe> works great for me too, but i'm not using unity
[04:52] <spdupee> wasn't hardware.  it was all software and all documented on the web with other users
[04:52] <spdupee> lost usb and networking
[04:53] <adam606> Hello
[04:53] <sary> Hey
[04:53] <dejahnue> a crash that causes your machine to stay down for a week sounds major for software
[04:53] <adam606> I have a question if anybody could answer it.
[04:53] <ZeloZelos> adam606, ask away :)
[04:54] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010725/
[04:54] <adam606> I have an ipod touch 2nd gen. What version of itunes works under wine? I'm running 10.10
[04:54] <sary> spdupee: would you mind sharing the issues you have , and what is the status of your ubuntu box at the moment.
[04:54] <ZeloZelos> adam606, sorry wrong channel :(
[04:54] <spdupee> no it was software.  I had to change several settings to get it back up, but it took quite a bit of looking on the web for the answers
[04:54] <adam606> oh shoot. sorry I bothered you
[04:55] <sary> adam606: last time i checked it was itunes 7.x.x ..
[04:55] <ZeloZelos> adam606, sorry that was ment for a diff channel
[04:55] <ZeloZelos> dk how i did that
[04:55] <dejahnue> adam606, just curious, does gnupod (linux) woork on yyour model ipod?
[04:55] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010725/
[04:55] <adam606> gnupod?
[04:55] <adam606> never heard of it.
[04:55] <ZeloZelos> adam606, there is a list of programs on the wine site that work and gives ratings etc
[04:55] <adam606> I've heard of gtkpod
[04:56] <adam606> and it works fine. I just want to sync my apps.
[04:56] <dejahnue> probably the names has changed
[04:56] <adam606> -.-
[04:56] <xisor> how do i add a custom resolution for my display? its only listing standard tv resolutions via my hdmi connection, but the screen supports its native rez over hdmi 1360x768
[04:56] <xisor> how do i force ubuntu to use it?
[04:56] <adam606> so. just out of curioustiy, what is this channel for?
[04:56] <rhin0> support of ubuntu
[04:57] <spdupee> status of box is up and running, but still get software crashes about every hour
[04:57] <vladthenoob> can someone tell me how to install the software which is used to download and install all the linux softwares from gui
[04:57] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010725/
[04:57] <adam606> hey, does anybody know if Precise works on a netbook?
[04:58] <xisor> can someone help me add a custom resolution and force ubuntu to use it? its not finding my monitor resolution
[04:59] <dejahnue> xisor, are you sure your video card supports it?
[04:59] <jiohdi> vladthenoob, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[04:59] <xisor> dejahnue: yes im quite sure my nvidia ion supports 1360x768@60hz
[04:59] <xisor> dejahnue: works in windows, cant figure out how to set it up in ubuntu, im new to linux
[04:59] <vladthenoob> yes! thanks alot jiohdi thats the name i forgot! synaptic!
[05:00] <ibm> wawowe where are you why do you not respond please wait just read it please here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010725/
[05:00] <ZeloZelos> xisor, it could be the driver. recently i tried to use the driver for my nvidea and it broke active x
[05:00] <wawowe> ibm: i'm still here
[05:00] <xisor> ZeloZelos: driver is the nvida forceware drivers, working correctly, its simply not listing non standard resolutions
[05:01] <xisor> hooked up via hdmi, its ONLY listing tv resolutions, i need to add a resolution
[05:01] <vladthenoob> jiohdi, Can you please tell me why Synaptic is not included in Ubuntu? USC is really narrow.
[05:01] <jiohdi> vladthenoob, decision from high up I imagine, I am not privy to
[05:01] <ZeloZelos> not very simple at all though xisor
[05:02] <ibm> wawowe ok what should i do the update tool can i truest it and answer yes other things to type before
[05:02] <OerHeks> vladthenoob, it is included, only not installed standard
[05:02] <xisor> ZeloZelos: works fine over vga, but i need to use hdmi because it carries audio with it as well
[05:02] <vladthenoob> 0erHeks, that's what i meant
[05:02] <xisor> ZeloZelos: so how do i force ubuntu to output the correct resolution?
[05:03] <ZeloZelos> xisor, too complicated for me man, sorry
[05:03] <dejahnue> xisor, this method is seldom recommended, but I think X comes with a file called xorg.conf-vesa which can be copied over to xorg.conf and then edited to add a resolution
[05:03] <wawowe> ibm: apt-get remove libasound2 libglib2.0-0 libpango1.0-0 ppp
[05:03] <xisor> dejahnue: how do i do that?
[05:03] <xisor> dejahnue: is there another way to do it?
[05:03] <jameslord> is there any temp file that occupies too much space?
[05:03] <OerHeks> xisor, have you tried to reset the monitor to default ?
[05:03] <jameslord> http://iyanwu.com/pastebin/showthread.php?tid=87
[05:04] <dejahnue> xisor, if the file(s) are there on your setup, they'd be in "/etc/X11"
[05:04] <xisor> OerHeks: its a tv, and it works fine in windows at the correct resolution, but linux doesnt even see anything higher than 1280x720
[05:04] <xisor> OerHeks: tv supports native 1360x768 via hdmi
[05:04] <xisor> OerHeks: but apparently ubuntu doesnt know that
[05:05] <xisor> OerHeks: so i need to know how to force it to
[05:05] <vladthenoob> can anyone suggest me a VNC server software except x11 ? i'm really having troubles with this one
 : All the time, when i turn On hardware switch, i get Hard Blocked: No Soft Blocked: NO. But, i cant enable bluetooth from applet without soft reboot from windows
[05:06] <dejahnue> xisor, as I was saying, check in /etc/X11 for a file called xorg.conf-vesa
[05:06] <xisor> dejahnue: ok, and what do i do once i find it?
[05:06] <xisor> no xorg.conf-vesa in my install
[05:07] <dejahnue> xisor, if you had it, you would copy it to xorg.conf and then edit xorg.conf
[05:07] <xisor> dejahnue: i dont have it
[05:07] <dejahnue> yeah
[05:07] <xisor> dejahnue: so what do i do to fix this problem?
[05:08] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010736/
[05:08] <dejahnue> well, xorg.conf is a kind of too long and complicated file for creating by hand
[05:09] <wawowe> ibm: type: no
[05:09] <ibm> wawowe ok
[05:11] <JoeyZhang> does gnome 3.4 works fine with Ati hd4330?
[05:11] <wawowe> ibm: sudo apt-get install dpkg
[05:11] <ibm> wawowe i think the update tool is ok if a close the other program before installing but do need to close it even it is downloading
[05:11] <dejahnue> xisor, all I can think of is that you'd need to find a copy of xorg.conf somewhere
[05:11] <ibm> wawowe ok
[05:12] <wawowe> ibm: i wouldn't trust it since you can't see what it's doing
[05:13] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010741/
[05:13] <client_alive> hi
[05:13] <client_alive> I was wondering where one might find a windows system's files and directories on a linux system. I mean, if I'm running a live distro to try and recover the stuff from the disk, where would I find the stuff?
[05:14] <Phiscribe> client_alive what file manager are you using, most have a volume icon on the left pane, clicking it will mount the windows ntfs volume and let you browse around
[05:14] <Phiscribe> volume as in a disk, not sound
[05:15] <jameslord> what .xsession-errors is so large?
[05:15] <OerHeks> client_alive, try root "/"
[05:15] <vladthenoob> guys what's the fastest desktop sharing software you can suggest?
[05:15] <jameslord> http://iyanwu.com/pastebin/showthread.php?tid=88
[05:15] <client_alive> I have system rescue cd running (prolly a mistake)
[05:15] <wawowe> ibm: dpkg -r libasound2 libglib2.0-0 libpango1.0-0 ppp
[05:16] <client_alive> it's my friends computer. I promised them I'd check it out but I want to try and backup thier stuff before doing any diagnostics
[05:16] <ibm> wawowe here is the output for sudo apt-get dist-upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010743/
[05:16] <dejahnue> client_alive, what kind of screen are you at?
[05:17] <wawowe> ibm: type no
[05:17] <wawowe> ibm: dpkg -r libasound2 libglib2.0-0 libpango1.0-0 ppp
[05:18] <client_alive> I'm lookin' but I'm not seein'
[05:19] <client_alive> what if I were to run an ubuntu distro live? Would that make my life any easier?
[05:19] <dejahnue> yes
[05:19] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010747/
[05:19] <client_alive> :)
[05:20] <spdupee> ok the crash that always happens is update-apt-xapian-index.  This happens with every restart and durring regular use.
[05:20] <Phiscribe> client_alive i thought you were booted into a live disto, if your using the windows recovery, its not gonna help much, get a live cd, burn it, boot, access the files, back them up to disk or network
[05:22] <wawowe> ibm: dpkg -r --force-depends libasound2 libglib2.0-0 libpango1.0-0 ppp
[05:22] <spdupee> DatabaseCorruptError in__init__(): Expected block 4079 to be level 1 not 0
[05:23] <client_alive> I'm running system rescue cd right now but not that familiar with it. Now, ubuntu I know. I have a couple 64 bit discs here already (12.04, 11.10. 10. 04). I'm trying to determine whether the cpu is a 64 bit cpu though. (cat /proc/cpuinfo but how do I tell from the info?)
[05:24] <dejahnue> client_alive, if you actually want to be able to restore the files later so that the windows machine boots, you'd probably want to backup the drive using "dd" rather than copying the files
[05:24] <sm_> can i virtualize windows drivers inside linux?
[05:24] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010753/
[05:25] <wawowe> ibm: sudo apt-get install dpkg apt
[05:25] <client_alive> as far as I can tell it's an intell core 2 duo
[05:25] <client_alive> 36 bit memory extensions...
[05:26] <sm_> I install ubuntu10.4 on a computer after that installation is finished
[05:26] <sm_> i found that my ubuntu cant find my netword card , what can  i do?
[05:26] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010756/
[05:26] <Phiscribe> sm_ you can run a virtual machine with a windows os inside linux, an drivers you install will be installed inside that vm, there are liscensing requirements though
[05:27] <dejahnue> sm_, there's a package called ndiswapper which allows you to use windows ethernet dirvers from linux (with luck)
[05:28] <sm_> thank you for your help<Phiscribe>but i need to install drivers inside my ubuntu os and use it for my work
[05:28] <dejahnue> sorry for the misspelling, it's "ndiswrapper"
[05:28] <sm_> i found sth for installing windows wireless drivers inside linux but nothing else for other drivers
[05:30] <dejahnue> I'm pretty sure ndiswrapper isn't limited to wifi
[05:30] <wawowe> ibm: sudo apt-get -d dpkg gnupg libapt-pkg4.12 libc6 libgcc1 libstdc++6 ubuntu-keyring coreutils libbz2-1.0 libselinux1 tar xz-utils zlib1g
[05:31] <client_alive> what kind of network card is sm_ using? Is it the wireless card? The broadcom?
[05:31] <xyy> is there a channel to discuss irc servers?
[05:31] <Hellper> www.linuxchat.pt.vc
[05:31] <Phiscribe> sm_ what specific driver are you talking about
[05:31] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010764/
[05:33] <ibm> wawowe thank you very much but i think it is easier to use the update tool and take the risk what can it do
[05:33] <sm_> is there anyone know about ubuntu networking well?
[05:33] <client_alive> yup!
[05:33] <client_alive> Ubuntu's the way to go
[05:34] <ibm> wawowe thank you very much but i think it is easier to use the update tool and take the risk what can it do more
[05:34] <ibm> wawowe here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010764/
[05:34] <wawowe> ibm: i don't think the update tool is going to work
[05:34] <spdupee> fixed the problem no more crashing
[05:35] <ibm> wawowe i can try anyway
[05:35] <ibm> wawowe it can not do anything worth
[05:36] <testi> if i confirm too fast in Alt+F2 unity does not execute the requested command. I think it seems it makes the same mistake like the KDE desk tool 5 years ago. It picks the item that unity found so far, and not the item entered. The item found so far for command is strangely always the same the user typed, but with a delay.
[05:37] <ibm> wawowe it can not do anything worth thank you anyway i try it
[05:40] <gohkesh> Loooool
[05:41]  * jaimef ponders where xulrunner went in 12
[05:43] <sm_> my network driver is not wiresless
[05:44] <dejahnue> sm_, if you lookup the ndiswrapper project at sourceforge, it's not limited to wifi cards
[05:45] <Phiscribe> sm_ did you see if there is a restricted driver for your network card?
[05:45] <Phiscribe> might help if we knew the network card in question, a bit
[05:45] <gohkesh> Sm_ nobody gives a shit about your network driver
how can i get you more information?
[05:46] <dejahnue> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper
[05:47] <Phiscribe> sm_ so it is a wired, (not wireless) network card and your booted into ubuntu right now?
[05:47] <sm_> yeah it is a wired network and i'm booted into ubnutu right now
[05:48] <Phiscribe> open a terminal and type lspci | grep -i eth
[05:48] <dixoncx> help... bluetooth problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11972551
[05:48] <wino> Anyone using a RocketRaid 640L?
root@rasa:~# lspci | grep -i eth 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)
[05:49] <dejahnue> sm_, so what was your ethernet problem again?
[05:49] <sm_> my network connection is unstable
[05:50] <dejahnue> unstable in what way?
[05:50] <sm_> it is interupted periodically
[05:51] <sm_> and it is very slow
[05:51] <wawowe> anyone know how to force apt-get to ignore broken dependencies and just download anyway?
[05:51] <dejahnue> how slow is slow?
[05:52] <wawowe> can't find anything in the man or otherwise
[05:52] <wino> Or does anyone have a pci-e 1x raid/jbod card that works in ubuntu?
[05:52] <wino> sata2 is fine
[05:52] <sm_> the problem is being unstable
[05:52] <wawowe> but i think there's some way to make it obey dpkg flags
[05:52] <Phiscribe> sm_ look here, it might help (might) basicaly they want you to power down and uplug wait 3 minutes.... http://askubuntu.com/questions/96343/internet-unusably-slow-with-realtek-semiconductor-co-ltd-rtl8111-8168b-card
[05:53] <Phiscribe> also here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/699761
[05:53] <Phiscribe> sm_ ^^^
[05:53] <sm_> for example i loose connection for 2 minutes and the n get connection for a while
[05:53] <dejahnue> sm_, two problems. one is that realtek ethernet is poor. the other is that maybe if you turn down the speed to 100mbit the stability might improve
[05:54] <sm_> and then after between 3-5 minutes i loose connetion again
[05:54] <sm_> totally unstable
[05:55] <dejahnue> sm_, unless your isp is really giving a gigabit, turning down your ethernet speed won't hurt anything and might improve the stability
[05:55] <sm_> dejahune> can i use windows driver in linux? will it help?
 ok how should i do that?
[05:56] <dejahnue> sm_, no. because you started out saying that linux couldn't find your ethernet, not that your ethernet was just unstable
[05:56] <dejahnue> sm_, you can turn down your speed with ethtool
[05:57]  * gohkesh lights his cigar
[05:57] <sm_> sorry for my poor explanation
[05:57]  * wawowe removes apt and installs portage in it's place
 my connection is established but unstable
sorry for my poor explanation. my connection is established but unstable
[05:58] <Lukeroge> Holy crap, there are some big channels on this network :3
[05:59] <dejahnue> sm_, "ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full"
 just a minute, let me try it.
[06:02] <gohkesh> sm_ I can help you for money
[06:02] <bazhang> gohkesh, stop that nonsense
[06:02] <OerHeks> gohkesh, that is not done here.
[06:02] <gohkesh> Money is nonsense?!!!!!
[06:02] <mysteriousdarren> Lukeroge: like what channels?
[06:03] <Lukeroge> So far this is the biggest I have seen - I'm usually on a smaller IRC network
[06:03] <bazhang> Lukeroge, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:04] <Lukeroge> k
[06:06] <dejahnue> Guest82464, did it help?
[06:07] <dixoncx> help... bluetooth problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11972551
[06:07] <Lym> Hello all. I accidentally selected too many packages for update, like hundreds of them by doing ./* or something silly like that. So how do I clear my cache so that apt-get -f install doesn't want to install hundreds of unecessary packages?
[06:08] <windbuntu> brasero doesnt work total mess
[06:08] <windbuntu> always says error while burning plus it cant eject
[06:09] <OerHeks> windbuntu, i use K3B on unity, brasero is buggy
[06:09] <gohkesh> Lem there mus me some cache in /var/apr/cache or something like that
[06:09] <windbuntu> brasero is more than buggy its total _ _ _ _
[06:09] <windbuntu> ill try the k3b ty OerHeks
[06:09] <dejahnue> cdrecord works pretty well
[06:10] <windbuntu> why do they put brasero in as default if it a total piece of _ _ _ _
[06:10] <windbuntu> why not use something that works as you suggested?
[06:10] <dejahnue> because it has a kewl name
[06:10] <windbuntu> haha
[06:10] <windbuntu> wow, sad thing is you may actually be right
[06:11] <windbuntu> i have lost 2-30 dvds
[06:11] <windbuntu> 20-30 i meant
[06:11] <dejahnue> wow
[06:11] <mobile> how?
[06:11] <windbuntu> funny thing is it worked when i burned ubuntu to dvd
[06:11] <windbuntu> but all the rest poof
[06:11] <wawowe> windbuntu: that's either because of your dvd-burner or because you're burning too fast
[06:12] <mobile> what u mean??
[06:12] <windbuntu> no i see noe amny many ppl reporeting the same thing it burns at a lik x7 x8
[06:12] <windbuntu> this is a major bug
[06:12] <ex0s> ohh yea
[06:12] <wawowe> not that i like brasero, but it's not making coasters, you are
[06:12] <windbuntu> its very bad
[06:13] <ex0s> use k3b
[06:13] <windbuntu> i will ty
[06:13] <ex0s> or use Cli burning utility
[06:13] <dejahnue> has your drive got burn-free ?
[06:13] <ex0s> CDRECORD command
[06:13] <windbuntu> my dvd burner is a brand new asus
[06:14] <dejahnue> sata?
[06:14] <ex0s> try the "cdrecord" command
[06:14] <windbuntu> does that command also know when to burn an image?
[06:14] <ex0s> jyes
[06:14] <windbuntu> wow
[06:14] <ex0s> u hqve to specify when to burn iso
[06:15] <Lym> Does anyone know how to clear the current apt queue? I accidentally selected too many packages for download. I want to clear the current queue for packages that will be installed by apt-get -f install
[06:15] <ex0s> sorry on my iphone
[06:15] <windbuntu> im going to try k3b 1st
[06:15] <Cerrdor> Lym Cntrl+C
[06:15] <ex0s> yea k3b is good
[06:15] <dejahnue> windbuntu, what's your system load while burning?
[06:15] <EliahKagan> Cerrdor: if i understand Lym correctly it's not that they are currently installing but that they will be installed when apt-get is run with -f
[06:16] <Cerrdor> ohhhh
[06:16] <ex0s> try apt-get remove
[06:16] <windbuntu> i have burned with ubuntu before and it used to work good for me  until unity
[06:16] <ex0s> the reinstall fro
[06:16] <EliahKagan> Lym: if that is the case, you could simulate "sudo apt-get -f install" with "apt-get -s -f install" to see what would happen, and then remove all the packages that would be installed that you don't want
[06:16] <ex0s>  apt-get update
[06:16] <Cerrdor> brb logging into server
[06:16] <windbuntu> ok well im going to go into software center and look for k3b ty
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> Lym, if you are at the need to run a  apt-get -f install, you must have some partial installs am I correct here?
[06:17] <dejahnue> windbuntu, if the problem started with unity, then k3b may not help
[06:17] <EliahKagan> Lym: you'd remove them with "sudo apt-get remove ..." (as ex0s said) or "sudo apt-get purge ..." (which also removes their systemwide configuration files...not usually a big deal whether or not you do this)
[06:18] <Lym> wilee-nilee, the only partial install is crossover office which I was about to get the dependencies for when I discovered I had accidentally selected over 200 packages for install
[06:19] <CuteKitty>  how can i list all partitions of my hard drive?
[06:19] <dejahnue> fdisk
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> Lym, not sure here really, best of luck, if it was me I would let it all install then clean out correctly with purges of what you did not want.
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> thats just me though
[06:22] <wilee-nilee> CuteKitty, sudo fdisk -lu
[06:24] <sm_> dejahnue> my internet connection has a problem so i was disconnected
[06:25] <dejahnue> sm_, oh I thought you were here under the name  Guest82464
[06:25] <sm_> i use your recommended direction in terminal now how i find it is applied?
[06:25] <CuteKitty> wilee-nilee: thanks.
[06:25] <NaRc0LePtIK> bonjour
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> CuteKitty, no problem.
[06:26] <dejahnue> sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 ?
[06:26] <NaRc0LePtIK> Euh?
[06:27] <sm_> yes that is right.
[06:29] <dejahnue> sm_, if lowering the speed doesn't help then either realtek sucks or something else is wrong
 i try this direction ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full exactly
[06:30] <sm_> and my speed changed to that
[06:30] <dejahnue> did it help the stability?
[06:31] <windbuntu> wow k3b is way better it even ejected the dvd for me
[06:31] <windbuntu> no wonder some folks like kde
[06:33] <Ubuntu_Lover> hello everyone i got this file VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt in scaricati folder
[06:33] <Ubuntu_Lover> can you tell me what i have to write to install it?
[06:33] <sbarctea1> hi.
[06:33] <Ubuntu_Lover> as i'm linux begginer
[06:33] <sbarctea1> I am trying to allow remote graphic access (remotely over ssh)
[06:33] <Ubuntu_Lover> the folder where i have it scaricati that means downloads in italian
would you recommend using windows driver using ndiswrapper?
[06:34] <sbarctea1> I am user u1 (with sudo priveleges). I want to allow another user u2 to login via vnc/rdp and login via the login manager into his graphical desktop.
[06:34] <sbarctea1> I have xrdp installed, and I have x11vnc installed.
[06:34] <sbarctea1> xrdp is running.
[06:34] <Ubuntu_Lover> anyone able to help me?
[06:34] <dejahnue> windbuntusm_, no. because if the linux driver works at 1 gigabit, the windows driver won't do any better
[06:34] <spik3> hi is there a way we can put DVD5 in 12.04 and we can what is the link
[06:35] <sbarctea1> When user u2 connects via rdp and tries to use "console", he gets stuck: nothing is listening on :5900
[06:35] <dejahnue> sm_, no. because if the linux driver works at 1 gigabit, the windows driver won't do any better
[06:35] <Ubuntu_Lover> i have this file VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt in scaricati folder can you tell me how to install in on terminal as i'm not able to do this yet being linux starter
[06:35] <sbarctea1> what option in the xrdp drop down shall I ask user u2 to use, so he can get to local gdm
[06:35] <amanthakur> hi guys, can any one tell me is it possible to debug C programs in linux like we debug in Visual Studio in windows?
[06:35] <sbarctea1> ?
[06:36] <sbarctea1> Ubuntu_Lover: you should be asking VMWare guys, it seems like a mature product, with good documentation.
[06:36] <Ubuntu_Lover> wel they give me a command to write in shell last time on ubuntu italian but they sleeping now
[06:36] <dejahnue> sm_, if lowering the speed doesn't help it be more stable, then theres also the possibility that realtek ethernet isn't very good hardware
[06:37] <sbarctea1> also, txt seems like a name of a simple plain text file.
[06:37] <Ubuntu_Lover> i told them the folder and they told me what to write in terminal to install it
[06:37] <sbarctea1> so you should be able to read it.
[06:37] <Ubuntu_Lover> are you able to tell me ?
[06:37] <sbarctea1> Ubuntu_Lover: .txt extension is a convention for plain text files.
[06:37] <Ubuntu_Lover> i don0t even know what that means
[06:38] <Ubuntu_Lover> i can do just click and run
[06:38] <sbarctea1> well, click your browser, and run:vmware.com
[06:38] <Ubuntu_Lover> what i write in terminal to install this ? VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt
[06:38] <phaedra> Ubuntu_Lover, you should have a .bundle file not a .txt file
[06:38] <bazhang> Ubuntu_Lover, you dont install a text file
[06:38] <Ubuntu_Lover> i got it from donwload on wmware site what i have to download ?
[06:38] <bazhang> Ubuntu_Lover, text files are meant to be Read
[06:39] <Ubuntu_Lover> VMware Workstation 8.0.3 for Linux 2012-05-03 | 8.0.3 | 324M | Linux 64-bit .bundle i download this
[06:39] <Ubuntu_Lover> you got link for wmware workstation install file?
[06:39] <sbarctea1> you said you have .txt file.
[06:39] <phaedra> Ubuntu_Lover, if all you have is a .txt file then you just have instructions.  go back to vmware site and get the .bundle file
[06:40] <Ubuntu_Lover> when i click download bundle gives me text
[06:40] <Ubuntu_Lover> so what i do?
[06:40] <Hasoth> hey I have a problem, I have ubuntu installed on computer, now I wanted to install win 7 on free space, but somehow free space is inside extended partition and I can't format that space to not logical partition, any idea without format everything ?
[06:41] <Ubuntu_Lover> i use google chrome
[06:41] <Cerrdor> whats the package your trying to install Ubuntu_Lover
[06:41] <Ubuntu_Lover> but when i click download bundle gives me text don't know why
[06:41] <Ubuntu_Lover> this
[06:41] <Ubuntu_Lover> VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt
[06:42] <Cerrdor> lol
[06:42] <Ubuntu_Lover> i  download VMware Workstation 8.0.3 for Linux 2012-05-03 | 8.0.3 | 324M | Linux 64-bit .bundle   and give me text
[06:42] <Ubuntu_Lover> don't know why
[06:42] <Ubuntu_Lover> i'm using google chrome
[06:42] <Ubuntu_Lover> you know what's going on Cerrdor ?
[06:43] <Ubuntu_Lover> ill ask in chan what's the chan of wmare called?
[06:43] <bazhang> !alis | Ubuntu_Lover
[06:44] <Ubuntu_Lover> this stuff is so hard man
[06:45] <Hasoth> do you know how to resize extended partition with free space nallocated on that ? I use gparted live
[06:45] <phaedra> Ubuntu_Lover, i just checked and you should be able to dl that .bundle if you have an account with vmware
[06:45] <Ubuntu_Lover> i do
[06:46] <Ubuntu_Lover> but it gives me text when try
[06:46] <Ubuntu_Lover> i mean converts it to text
[06:46] <Ubuntu_Lover> thanks btw you know why?
[06:47] <Ubuntu_Lover> file says it's an excutable bash
[06:47] <phaedra> Ubuntu_Lover, no i have no idea why.  all i know is that the site does take me to the binary dl after i logon and select it
[06:48] <Ubuntu_Lover> does it turn to text when you try download wmware?
[06:49] <phaedra> Ubuntu_Lover, no, it stays a .bundle for me but i use firefox. try using firefox and see if it stays a .bundle
thanks alot for your hellp
[06:53] <_jeet> Hi
[06:53] <wilee-nilee> hello _jeet
[06:54] <_jeet> thanks wilee .. i have question related to CentOS but nobody in freenode replying
[06:55] <bazhang> _jeet, #centos not here
your help was great. thank alot.
[06:55] <_jeet> i know .. i was just checking if all node and support are same .. but Ubuntu rocks
[06:55] <_jeet> :)
[06:56] <_jeet> thanks
[06:59] <Ek|mu5> hello all, anyone here using kannel on 12.04?
[06:59] <bazhang> Ek|mu5, whats the real question
[07:01] <Ek|mu5> kannel-sqlbox is giving me errors with postgresql. the connection is defined properly and there is no MySQL section but sqlbox still asks for a MySQL connection definition
[07:03] <Ek|mu5> bazhang: relevant error message:  SQLBOX: MySQL: connection settings for id 'sqlbox-db' are not specified!
[07:05] <Ubuntu_Lover> i can't find the wmware chan can you help me?
[07:05] <bazhang> Ubuntu_Lover, #vmware
[07:06] <Ubuntu_Lover> thanks man :)
[07:07] <Ubuntu_Lover> hello i just download this file VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt the folder i have it in is called scaricati what i have to do to install it in ubuntu terminal now as im linux starter
[07:07] <Ubuntu_Lover> the file i got is VMware Workstation 8.0.3 for Linux 2012-05-03 | 8.0.3 | 324M | Linux 64-bit .bundle but when i click manualy download turns it in text is this normal?
[07:08] <Wingede> Ubuntu_Lover: open a terminal and do a sudo sh ~/<username>/<Download Folder>/<VMWare Workstation file name>
[07:09] <Ubuntu_Lover> i'm totaly new with linux
[07:09] <Ubuntu_Lover> i don't know how do that wingede
[07:09] <Ubuntu_Lover> how i do it?
[07:09] <Ubuntu_Lover> userename is x
[07:09] <Ubuntu_Lover> the download folder is scaricati and the file is VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt
[07:10] <Wingede> so first you need to open a terminal, in your menu search for terminal
[07:10] <Ubuntu_Lover> so what i do Wingede  can you Guide me?
[07:10] <Ubuntu_Lover> a ok
[07:10] <sickened> !ops | kiss my ass
[07:10] <Ubuntu_Lover> i'm root all ready
[07:11] <Ubuntu_Lover> that i can do
[07:11] <Ubuntu_Lover> now what i do?
[07:11] <Wingede> then in there sudo ~/x/scaricati/VMware-Workstation....txt
[07:11] <Ubuntu_Lover> sudo ~/x/scaricati/VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt  i did that
[07:11] <sickened> !ops | suck my dick
[07:11] <Ubuntu_Lover> says file not found
[07:12] <Ubuntu_Lover> haha what's going on
[07:12] <Tm_T> Ubuntu_Lover: nothing
[07:12] <Wingede> sudo sh ~/x/.....
[07:12] <Wingede> fill in the dots with path and filename in full
[07:12] <Areckx> I'm really confused here. A week or so ago I could type characters such as ⓪⓪⓪❶ with ibus-anthy and now they are no longer appearing whe nI type numbers
[07:12] <Ubuntu_Lover> JESUS this is too compliated forme
[07:13] <Wingede> Ubuntu_Lover: don't give up, it gets easier just got to get over the little hurdles
[07:13] <Ubuntu_Lover> if you write me full thing i can copy paste it and install as i did last time
[07:13] <Wingede> k
[07:13] <Ubuntu_Lover> they asked me my folder and user thanks
[07:13] <Ubuntu_Lover> this is the thing
[07:14] <Ubuntu_Lover> root@x:/home/x#
[07:14] <Ubuntu_Lover> folder is scaricati
[07:14] <Ubuntu_Lover> and file is VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt
[07:14] <Ubuntu_Lover> i give execute command to file from properties did i do good?
[07:14] <Wingede> sudo sh ~/x/scaricati/VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt
[07:14] <phuser> join #asterisk
[07:15] <Ubuntu_Lover>  Can't open /root/x/scaricati/VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.txt
[07:15] <Ubuntu_Lover> says that
[07:15] <OerHeks> Ubuntu_Lover, what are you trying to do, read that .txt file ?
[07:15] <Wingede> what is the size of that download? - should be few hundred megs at least?
[07:15] <Ubuntu_Lover> i'm trying install wmware workstation 64 bit
[07:16] <Ubuntu_Lover> wich i donwload from your site but it turned my bundle into text
[07:16] <Wingede> OerHeks: trying to install vmware workstaion, looks like it downloaded with extension of .txt which is a bit unusual
[07:16] <Ubuntu_Lover> don't know why
[07:16] <Ubuntu_Lover> i use google chrome
[07:16] <Ubuntu_Lover> and ubuntu latest
[07:17] <Ubuntu_Lover> you know what's going on Wingede?
[07:17] <OerHeks> Ubuntu_Lover, VMware workstation is paid software, with great support
[07:17] <Wingede> Ubuntu_Lover: how big is that download?
[07:17] <Ubuntu_Lover> one sec
[07:17] <qinliming> on my computer chrome often die down
[07:17] <qinliming> die
[07:18] <Ubuntu_Lover> 338,9 MB
[07:18] <Ubuntu_Lover> is that ok?
[07:18] <qinliming> crash
i m newbie in ubuntu, how can i improve myself?
[07:19] <Wingede> Ubuntu_Lover: sounds about right, still can't explain why it saved with extension .txt - but anyway, you said can't open /root/x/scar.... shouldn't that be /home/x/scarcicati.... ?
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> sm_, use it, maybe read some books, personally I just used it.
[07:22] <bazhang> !manual | sm_
[07:22] <sm_> can you introduce good books?
[07:22] <bazhang> !rute | sm_
[07:23] <bazhang> sm_, I just did
[07:24] <OerHeks> And every month a fresh issue http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ nr 61 is out
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> sm_, lurk the IRC, and the ubuntu forums is another way, you can confirm stuff you read that way and fooing the web.
[07:25] <asdasdasd> dd
[07:25] <Sidvee_> sorry to be lame, whats the command to open up a pdf from terminal using default application.
[07:26] <asdasdasd> das
you used it before?
[07:27] <bazhang> sm_, used what? those resources? yes, very extensively. also see the other suggestions, and one final one: askubuntu.com
[07:28] <rik316> I have a wimax modem connected to my ubuntu box via usb which shows up as eth1.(192.168.0.2)  I have another interface eth0(192.168.137.1) which is connected to a switch. On that switch is another machine( 192.168.137.34 )  I have Internet Connection Sharing set up via iptables.
[07:29] <rik316> Now I want to port forward all incoming connections to port 8080 to 192.168.137.34
[07:29] <rik316> I can't seem to get it working
[07:29] <Sidvee_> sorry to be lame, whats the command to open up a pdf from terminal using default application.
[07:30] <sm_> http://askubuntu.com/ it seem to be an active forum , is it ok?
[07:30] <bazhang> sm_, yes. very
[07:31] <OerHeks> There is also an askubuntu lens for 12.04, awesome
[07:31] <EliahKagan> Sidvee_: i don't know a command to open it using whatever app you've set as default, but the OS default for opening PDF's is the Document Viewer, and you can invoke that on the command-line as: evince
[07:31] <EliahKagan> for example: evince foo.pdf
[07:31] <OerHeks> Sidvee_, evince /path/to/file.pdf
thanks alot
[07:33] <Chuck_Norris> rik316: echo 1 >> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[07:33] <rik316> Chuck_Norris, already set
[07:33] <Chuck_Norris> rik316: excuse me echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[07:34] <rik316> my connection sharing works fine, it's just the port forwarding
[07:35] <Chuck_Norris> rik316: sudo iptables -F
[07:35] <Chuck_Norris> rik316: sudo iptables -X
[07:37] <rik316> Chuck_Norris, done
[07:40] <Areckx> rik316::  That statement answers everything here!
[07:46] <jussi> My empathy on 12.04 is not saving my favourite rooms, how do I make it save them?
[07:47] <sm_> dejahnue> i m using another computer
[07:48] <sm_> and i have opensuse installed
[07:48] <sm_> i have the same problem on that
[07:48] <bazhang> sm_, then #suse
[07:50] <wawowe> somewhere beyond the sea
[07:51] <Cerrdor> somewhere waiting for me?
[07:51] <vetetix> greetings everyone, I'm looking for some advice on creating the most performant usb-stick installed Ubuntu (using Ubuntu's official Startup Disk Creator is not what I'm looking for).
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> vetetix, performant ?
[07:51] <Cerrdor> tail -f /etc/songs/Somewhere-under-the-sea
[07:51] <vetetix> "fast"
[07:52] <Cerrdor> not unetbootin?
[07:52] <wilee-nilee> vetetix, a full install using the mini with the lightest de like openbox would probably do you.
[07:52] <vetetix> booting on an ubuntu live usb is quite slow (due to the decompression of the iso?)
[07:52] <wilee-nilee> if youhave a big enough thumb
[07:53] <vetetix> wilee-nilee: i do have a big enough thumb
[07:53] <Cerrdor> thats not what she said
[07:53] <Cerrdor> :P
[07:53] <vetetix> Cerrdor: ;-)
[07:53] <wawowe> undah tha sea
[07:53] <Cerrdor> undah da sea
[07:54] <Cerrdor> grep "life is much better"
[07:54] <wawowe> it's always bettah down where it's wettah
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> vetetix, A full install is better anyway, wont install, b ut will run like a HD, maybe a bit slower, mine have been pretty fast though, are you familiar with the mini cd and the netload it does.
[07:54] <wawowe> take it from me
[07:55] <Myrtti> !ot | wawowe
[07:55] <amanthakur> hi guys, i am looking for a IDE in linux to debug C programs line by line as we do in visual studio in windows? Can anyone tell if there is any?
[07:55] <Cerrdor> out in da sun dey play all day
[07:55] <Guest9662> hi
[07:55] <vetetix> wilee-nilee: so there is nothing against installing a full Ubuntu system on the usb stick, (then putting the grub on the first partition of the said stick, and using tmpfs for /tmp)?
[07:55] <Myrtti> Cerrdor: keep it to Ubuntu support, please
[07:55] <Drajwer> how can I add indicators to my gnome-classic in Precise Pangolin desktop?
[07:56] <Cerrdor> Myrtti, np
[07:56] <Drajwer> when I right click on top panel no menu shows up...
[07:56] <Cerrdor> does bluefish ide support c?
[07:56] <wilee-nilee> vetetix, you would put grub in the mbr not a partition, and no need to tweak much else it will run like a HD.
[07:56] <Guest9662> I have a question: how to fix sound in Ubuntu 11.10? Everything worked for a long time. But recently sound just disappeared in most programs except skype. Just silence
[07:56] <vetetix> wilee-nilee: by mini-cd you mean net install ?
[07:57] <Guest9662> I do not know how to debug sound in Ubuntu
[07:57] <wilee-nilee> vetetix, yeah you want a link?
[07:57] <vetetix> wilee-nilee: sure
[07:57] <wilee-nilee> vetetix, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:59] <vetetix> wilee-nilee: i believe it is advised to keep /tmp on the usb disk, because it will wear off the flash memory prematurely
[07:59] <Guest9662> do you want to know difference between Ubuntu and Fedora?
[07:59] <wawowe> Guest9662: no
[08:00] <Guest9662> Ubuntu community does not give a shit when you ask a question. Never
[08:00] <Guest9662> no help
[08:00] <wawowe> Guest9662: did you switch to pulseaudio
[08:00] <wawowe> Guest9662: oh nvm
[08:00] <Guest9662> yes, I use standard configuration. Pulseaudio is on
[08:00] <vetetix> wilee-nilee: and concerning grub, i read you should install it on /dev/sdb1, not on /dev/sdb nor on mbr, because i would break the local system's grub
[08:01] <wawowe> Guest9662: it's not that people don't give a shit, it's that you didn't really give enough details and/or no one has the answer
[08:01] <wawowe> Guest9662: check alsamixer to make sure nothing is muted
[08:02] <Guest9662> I would agree if that would be first time
[08:02] <wilee-nilee> vetetix, the wear out the flash has become a old wive tail really, but you can do as you like. Modern solid state drives have the same failure state statistically as a spinning HD.
[08:02] <vetetix> Guest9662: did you try killing skype, and testing the sound afterwards?
[08:02] <Guest9662> not yet
[08:02] <Myrtti> wawowe: keep the language clean, thanks
[08:02] <Eagleman> I cant get my harddisk in automatic standby mode by issuing this command: hdparm -S 6 /dev/sdb ( after 60 seconds its still on online mode )
[08:02] <Eagleman> But when i issue this command: hdparm -y  /dev/sdb it does go in standby mode, checking that with hdparm -C  /dev/sdb:  drive state is:  standby
[08:03] <wilee-nilee> vetetix, grub goes to the mbr you can make a boot partition if you like but it is not needed.
[08:03] <Guest9662> not helped killing skype
[08:03] <Guest9662> alsamixer - how can it help if skype works?
[08:03] <wawowe> Guest9662: lsof | grep snd
[08:03] <Guest9662> no, nothing is muted
[08:03] <vetetix> Guest9662: could you try to relaunch alsa/osd/pulseaudio now that skype is killed?
[08:03] <Guest9662> sudo lsof|grep snd
[08:03] <Guest9662> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/dmo/.gvfs
[08:03] <Guest9662>       Output information may be incomplete.
[08:03] <Guest9662> pulseaudi 2555         dmo  mem       CHR      116,4                  9486 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[08:03] <Guest9662> pulseaudi 2555         dmo  mem       REG        8,5     445036   17829438 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libsndfile.so.1.0.24
[08:03] <Guest9662> pulseaudi 2555         dmo   23u      CHR     116,15        0t0      12305 /dev/snd/controlC1
[08:03] <Guest9662> pulseaudi 2555         dmo   28u      CHR     116,12        0t0       6394 /dev/snd/controlC3
[08:03] <FloodBot1> Guest9662: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:04] <Eagleman> Can someone help me with my hdparm issue, i'v been trying to solve it for ages
[08:05] <wawowe> Guest9662: lsof | grep snd | awk '{print $2}' | sort -u | xargs kill -9
[08:06] <OerHeks> Eagleman, so what is your issue ? hdparm -y  /dev/sdb goes into standby mode, as you wanted
[08:06] <Eagleman> yes
[08:07] <Eagleman> but it never goed automatic in standy mode, its already spinning for 2 months without going into standby mode
[08:07] <AdvoWork> How would I go about searching all files in all folders say in /tmp for an ip address?
[08:07] <Eagleman> I want it to go to standby mode after 2-3 hours idle
[08:07] <wawowe> AdvoWork: grep -r /tmp "192.168.5.5"
[08:08] <wawowe> AdvoWork: grep -r "192.168.5.5" /tmp
[08:10] <Eagleman> do you know what I mean? OerHeks
[08:12] <OerHeks> Eagleman, look at 'man hdparm' and see -S  ( ... Values from 241 to 251 specify from 1 to 11 units of 30 minutes)
[08:13] <Eagleman> OerHeks Yes i know how -S works but when i set this command, hdparm -S 6 /dev/sdb, after 60 seconds its still not in standby mode
[08:14] <OerHeks> well read that manual.
[08:15] <OerHeks> "Values from 1 to 240 specify multiples of 5 seconds"  so 6 x 5 seconds = 30 sec
[08:15] <Eagleman> Yes, thats what i want for testing
[08:15] <Eagleman> i'm not gonna wait 3 hours to see if its in standby mode
[08:16] <Eagleman> but after 60 seconds its still not in standby mode ( when i had set it to 30 seconds )
[08:16] <stueng> anyone know whether its possible to get internet explorer + logmein working in WINE ?
[08:17] <OerHeks> Eagleman, did you use sudo?
[08:17] <Eagleman> sudo su
[08:17] <wawowe> stueng: internet explorer definitely. i've never used logmein tho
[08:17] <Eagleman> then while i'm root i use the command
[08:18] <Eagleman> root@eagleman:/home/eagleman# hdparm -S 6 /dev/sdb
[08:18] <weiyang> some configured bond interface on ubuntu?
[08:18] <stueng> wawowe: if IE works, I gues i'll give it a go
[08:18]  * Cerrdor laffs @IE "working"
[08:18] <weiyang> can i bond one eth and one wlan?
[08:19] <stueng> hmm which package for wine? windows compatability layer?
[08:19] <Cerrdor> weiyang, yes but the wifi will have to be in monitor mode
[08:19] <wawowe> stueng: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingInternetExplorer
[08:20] <oCean> stueng: for running applications with wine, please consult #winehq channel
[08:20] <stueng> thanks wawa
[08:21] <weiyang> Cerrdor, I looked at the document in kernel source,
[08:21] <weiyang> Cerrdor, and find one example on ubuntu distro, could it work?
[08:21] <Cerrdor> ok?
[08:21] <Cerrdor> weiyang, its possible
[08:21] <weiyang> Cerrdor, not tried yet...
[08:21] <Cerrdor> but what would be the reason
[08:22] <cobbler> trying to install ubuntu 12.04 precise using cobbler and a preseed file always get a prompt asking cdrom not found, can someone help?
[08:22] <stueng> wawowe: in your experience does acivex work ?
[08:22] <cobbler> this is the preseed file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010897/
[08:23] <cobbler> i am using alternate cd
[08:23] <Eagleman> OerHeks hdparm just isnt working, and i have no idea why
[08:23] <Mannix> hi
[08:23] <weiyang> Cerrdor, i tried "lsmod | grep bond", while shows nothing
[08:23] <wawowe> stueng: pretty sure i got that and silverlight working, but i haven't had to do it in a few years
[08:23] <cobbler> imported the alternate cd like this , cobbler import --name=ubuntu-server --path=/mnt --breed=ubuntu
[08:23] <weiyang> Cerrdor, this means i need to install the module first?
[08:23] <OerHeks> Eagleman, looks like you have no ACPI control
[08:23] <oCean> cobbler, try to describe your issue in single line, or it gets confusing for others
[08:23] <cobbler> then added cobbler profile like this, cobbler profile edit --name=ubuntu12_04-x86_64 --kickstart=/var/lib/cobbler/kickstarts/ubuntu-nqa.seed --kopts="auto url=http://192.168.35.1/ubuntu-nqa.seed priority=critical lang=english locale=en_US console-keymaps-at/keymap=us console-setup/ask_detect=false console-setup/layoutcode=us"
[08:23] <oCean> cobbler: also, the -server channel might be a better option to try
[08:24] <cobbler> oCean: ok
[08:24] <Eagleman> Hmm that would be kinda weird
[08:24] <Cerrdor> weiyang, what are you trying to do? Why do you need both eth0 and wi0?
[08:25] <weiyang> Cerrdor, ok, I installed the bonding module
[08:25]  * Cerrdor facepalms
[08:25] <weiyang> Cerrdor, I want to set up a bonding interface
[08:25] <Eagleman> OerHeks How can i check if i do or do not have a ACPI control?
[08:25] <weiyang> Cerrdor, while I just have one eth interface and one wlan interface :(
[08:25] <Cerrdor> weiyang, you want to bond your wifi withe your eth?
[08:26] <weiyang> Cerrdor,  no, because the limitation of my hardware...
[08:26] <weiyang> Cerrdor, I don't have two eth interface on my machine...
[08:26] <Cerrdor> weiyang, It is not clear what or why you want to do it so I cannot really help
[08:26] <weiyang> Cerrdor,  while I need to test this ....
[08:26] <cobbler> oCean: thanks i have asked question in -server
[08:27] <weiyang> Cerrdor,  test how to set up the bond interface ...
[08:27] <weiyang> Cerrdor,  ok, thanks all the same :)
[08:28] <wawowe> weiyang: you want to your wlan to forward through eth?
[08:28] <OerHeks> Eagleman, i don't know.
[08:28] <lcabreza1> hey guys, why can't i install tomboy notes ? i'm using 12.04
[08:29] <Eagleman> So are there any other ways to get it into standby mode?
[08:29] <ejv> anyone else observe that unity "feels" a lot slower than gnome in 10.04? or am I imagining things? my system load is hovering above 1.0 with only two terminals open. yikes.
[08:30] <OerHeks> lcabreza1, sudo apt-get install tomboy
[08:33] <ejv> how do i change the order of icons in the unity bar?
[08:33] <lcabreza1>  OerHeks: Thanks, for some reason it doesn't work on ubuntu software center
[08:34] <weiyang> wawowe, i am trying to configure bonding interface and wondering whether eth could bond wlan
[08:34] <anom> I've set up a PHP contact form script on one of my websites, I'm getting a success message when testing the form but no email is coming through - could it be my VPS config? (contact forms on wordpress sites on the same server work fine)
[08:35] <ejv> not really the channel for that kind of support, not to be /that/ guy
[08:36] <wawowe> weiyang: maybe, but why would you want to do that?
[08:36] <Kruptein> does anyone know how you can only show the windows that are opened in the current workspace in the sidebar?
[08:37] <BlueWolf> How Do I run a .sh file? It is a game I have just downloaded and I don't know how to run it?
[08:37] <truemove> sh ./filename  try that
[08:38] <Kruptein> (in terminal)
[08:38] <ejv> or read the game documentation / online wikis if they exist
[08:38] <EliahKagan> if you start the command with "sh ", you don't need the "./" before the filename
[08:39] <wawowe> weiyang: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[08:39] <intrapata> hellloooo
[08:39] <BlueWolf> 	
[08:39] <BlueWolf> truemove: It's in my downloads, so how do I tell it to run that particular file in my downloads?
[08:39] <ejv> btw i figured out changing the order of icons on this unity bar: you have to remove all icons and then readd the ones you want from scratch; usability fail. :S
[08:40] <OerHeks> ejv drag them in place also works
[08:40] <Kruptein> indeed
[08:40] <anom> Why have Ubuntu not got a ctrl+alt+del yet? pain when something freezes :/
[08:40] <ejv> it doesn't, believe me i tried
[08:40] <Kruptein> ejv it does believe me I did
[08:40] <OerHeks> ejv believe me, it works
[08:40] <truemove> BlueWolf: cd your way to your download dir
[08:40] <weiyang> wawowe, thanks
[08:40] <ejv> i tried locking/unlocking, shuffling them around, it doesn't work for me
[08:40] <Kruptein> you select an icon move it out of the bar and then you can swap it ejv
[08:40] <wawowe> BlueWolf: chmod +x ~/Downloads/game.sh; ~/Downloads/game.sh
[08:41] <EliahKagan> anom: are do you want to bring up a list of applications so you can kill some, or do you want to reboot the machine without doing a hard reset?
[08:41] <ejv> when i drag the bar, the entire thing also moves... not sure why
[08:41] <Kruptein> so I assume that there is no workaround to only show workspace related windows in the unity bar?
[08:41] <Kruptein> ejv you need to move the icon  OUT of the bar
[08:41] <anom> EliahKagan, first one/bring up a task manager
[08:41] <Kruptein> to the right
[08:42] <ejv> it won't let me drag to remove, is there someway to unlock it?
[08:42] <BlueWolf> 	
[08:42] <BlueWolf> truemove: wawowe: Ok so it will be something like this: chmod +x ~/Downloads/sh ./HoNClient-2.5.13.sh; ~/Downloads/sh ./HoNClient-2.5.13.sh  ??
[08:42] <Kruptein> ejv http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFshDzo9En0
[08:42] <wawowe> BlueWolf: sh ~/Downloads/HoNClient-2.5.13.sh
[08:43] <anom> EliahKagan, I'm installing gnome-system-monitor and binding the keys ctrl+alt+del to it now but really seems like this should be default. Especially for windows users porting over.
[08:43] <Kruptein> ejv that is an older version of unity but for the icons it still is the same behaviour
[08:43] <Kruptein> ejv check minute one
[08:43] <EliahKagan> anom: i use Lubuntu, and Ctrl+Alt+Delete does bring up the task manager by default ...i don't know why it's not the default behavior with regular Ubuntu but i'm gad you got it configured
[08:44] <BlueWolf> wawowe: Oh yes silly me. THANK YOU!! :D
[08:44] <intrapata> does ubuntu got task manager via ctrl alt del? idont think so?
[08:45] <BlueWolf> truemove: Thank you too. :D
[08:45] <Nepherius> It does if you change the settings :P
[08:45] <ejv> thx for video, still can't get the icons to move seperately though by dragging :S
[08:45] <intrapata> nice
[08:45] <intrapata> still new at linux ,, so icame up here @ irc eheh
[08:45] <EliahKagan> intrapata: as anom was saying, you can configure the System Monitor to come up with a shortcut key combination, and you can make the combination Ctrl+Alt+Delete
[08:45] <intrapata> isee
[08:45] <tr3nton> anom: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/84/
[08:46] <intrapata> @ eliahkagan tnx ^_^
[08:46] <EliahKagan> intrapata: on Lubuntu, it's that way by default (brings up LXTask)
[08:46] <intrapata> so the lxtask is the task manager of the ubuntu?
[08:46] <anom> 'This idea was marked as implemented the 25 November 11. Available starting Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope.	' ?
[08:46] <EliahKagan> intrapata, no, gnome-system-monitor is the task manager for regular Ubuntu; lxtask is the task manager for Lubuntu
[08:47] <intrapata> isee
[08:47] <EliahKagan> intrapata: Ubuntu is a GNOME-based distribution ...the LXDE-based "flavor" of Ubuntu is Lubuntu
[08:47] <ejv> i think in the older version of unity, you can drag the icons around, but perhaps in this most recent version, it's locked
[08:47] <intrapata> so much to learn haha good thing you guys are here <EliahKagan>
[08:47] <EliahKagan> intrapata: GNOME and LXDE are two desktop environments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment); there are others as well
[08:48] <ejv> omg i figured it out Kruptein!
[08:48] <ejv> you have to click and hold, for several seconds, then it will unhook
[08:48] <intrapata> so gnome taskmanager
[08:48] <Kruptein> ejv great
[08:48] <intrapata> is for ubuntu
[08:48] <ejv> wow that is just mighty ridiculous lol
[08:48] <intrapata> even the newest version the 12.4? <EliahKagan>??
[08:49] <ejv> thx for help Kruptein :)
[08:49] <Kruptein> ejv np :)
[08:49] <Kruptein> Can someone confirm that it's not possible to only show workspace-related windows on the unity bar?
[08:51] <intrapata> can anyone plss help me ... lately i installed snes emulator on my ubuntu desktop,, then suddenly i got this problem,, when i change the resolution of my screen,,, my screen acts like its kinda buggy,, screen is moving,, not normal. any ideas about this?
[08:51] <EliahKagan> intrapata: what was the question you were asking me about 12.04? (it's not clear from what i have read, and i was afk momentarily)
[08:51] <anom> Anyone finding the latest Ubuntu release really buggy?
[08:51] <wawowe> intrapata: how is it not normal
[08:51] <intrapata> ahm
[08:51] <Kruptein> anom in which way?
[08:52] <rurufufuss> besides .local/share/application, what other place do ubuntu set mime type associations?
[08:52] <wawowe> rurufufuss: /usr/share/applications
[08:52] <anom> My sidebar keeps moving up so I can't see any of my applications, some applications menu bars become unresponsive (when I try and click them its like I'm clicking the desktop) and a few other bugs
[08:52] <intrapata> when i change my resoltuion the desktop, shakes,, and you can only see, half of it,, sorry for my english
[08:52] <Kruptein> anom happened to me yesterday, was the first and only time though
[08:53] <anom> I need to restart every few days since the latest update :/
[08:53] <wawowe> intrapata: what's your normal desktop resolution?
[08:54] <Kruptein> I have 2 annoying problems:
[08:54] <Kruptein> 1) I have my sidebar on autohide and often in the proces of showing the bar it just freezes the system
[08:54] <Kruptein> 2) There seems to be no way to only show workspace related windows in the bar which annoys me as hell
[08:54] <Kruptein> sorry for the flood btw
[08:54] <wawowe> anom: switch to lxde or something like that
[08:54] <anom> lightweight, woo - sounds shiny.
[08:54] <intrapata> when i change my resoltuion the desktop, shakes,, and you can only see, half of it,, sorry for my english
[08:54] <lpe> hi, anyone know if there's an equivalent for 'yum provides "*/file" for apt9$ or aptitude? a function to see which packages provides said file
[08:55] <wawowe> lpe: what does yum provides do?
[08:56] <lpe> "a function to see which packages provides said file"
[08:56] <wawowe> intrapata: what is your default resolution?
[08:56] <truemove> is it only me who removes unity the first thing i do and installs  something better?
[08:57] <rurufufuss> can /usr/share/applications/mineinfo.cache be deleted safely?
[08:57] <wawowe> truemove: no :P
[08:57] <lpe> wawowe: http://hastebin.com/bofogokido.avrasm - that sort of thing
[08:57] <truemove> wawowe: good :D
[08:57] <rurufufuss> mimeinfo.cache*, sorry
[08:57] <truemove> everyone seems to have problem with unity
[08:57] <Kruptein> there are some things that annoy me but not that I want to switch env
[08:59] <intrapata> wawowe> ahm using 11440 x 900 as if now
[09:00] <wawowe> intrapata: xrandr -s 1440x900
[09:00] <intrapata> watwas dat sir wawoe?
[09:01] <intrapata> should i prompt you command?
[09:01] <wawowe> lpe: apt-cache search usually finds whatever you're looking for
[09:01] <wawowe> intrapata: it changes your screen resolution
[09:01] <AdvoWork> if im doing grep -r "192.168.5.5" /tmp     to pipe the output to a file, is it just grep -r "192.168.5.5" /tmp  > myfile.txt ?
[09:01] <lpe> wawowe: surely, but can I search for a specific file, and see which package provides this file? or atleast a hint of sorts?
[09:02] <intrapata> isee,, wawowe when we say default screen resolution s it the lowest res?
[09:02] <wawowe> AdvoWork: yes
[09:02] <wawowe> lpe give me an example of a file you might be looking for
[09:03] <lpe> I gave you the yum example
[09:03] <truemove> here is my screenshot right now how it can look without unity :)
[09:03] <truemove> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05282012-040204pm.php
[09:03] <wawowe> intrapata: default meaning the res that you had before snes and want back
[09:03] <Anom> jesus, LXDE is 1000x better than unity
[09:04] <Kruptein> truemove: im happy for you that you found an env that suits you, but stop the 'hating' on unity
[09:04] <intrapata> wawowe thanks it works
[09:04] <intrapata> thanks alot dude ^_^
[09:05] <intrapata> so wawowe ,, xrandr -s "desired res" will change the screen res., via terminal.. will this effective also onto other flavor of linux?
[09:05] <truemove> Kruptein: i dont hate it. but people shuld know that it is easy to change if the have problems with it
[09:05] <truemove> or am i wrong?
[09:05] <OerHeks> !nounity
[09:06] <muelli> intrapata: yes
[09:06] <EliahKagan> Anom: while i like LXDE very much, i find that it's still a bit rough around the edges, being a relatively newer desktop environment...i would consider Xfce to be more refined
[09:06] <Anom> EliahKagan, Wheres its downfall?
[09:07] <EliahKagan> Anom: LXDE's or Xfce's?
[09:07] <Anom> LXDE
[09:07] <Anom> Using it now and can't see any issues (yet). It's by far the most responsive OS I've ever used.
[09:08] <truemove> xfce4 is nice yeha.. and it installs the programs in the menues automatic.. its nice
[09:08] <hellox> where can i download ubuntu dvd iso?
[09:09] <EliahKagan> Anom: the biggest issue i've been having is that PCManFM (the file browser) crashes sometimes, including sometimes during a file transfer (i've stopped copying big files with it), and sometimes it doesn't automatically reload afterwards (which is bad because it's what gives you the desktop, after all...but you can reload it manually with: pcmanfm --desktop )
[09:09] <hellox> http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/
[09:09] <hellox>  i cannot find dvd iso here:( http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/
[09:10] <Anom> EliahKagan, Thanks for the heads up *writes down command*
[09:10] <EliahKagan> hellox: the main server containing the DVD iso is different, it's here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.10/release/
[09:11] <Kruptein> hellox you do know that 11.10 is not the newest version anymore right?
[09:11] <truemove> better to install the 12.04 LTS
[09:11] <EliahKagan> hellox: indeed as Kruptein has said, there is a newer version, 12.04 LTS, and you can get its DVD iso at Anom: the second most annoying thing i've experienced is that sometimes the volume control applet in the notification area doesn't respond to being clicked
[09:12] <intrapata> Eliahkagan ,, whats the default taskmanager for ubuntu 12.4,,, and how can i run it,, thanks friend.
[09:12] <EliahKagan> Anom: the second most annoying thing i've experienced is that sometimes the volume control applet in the notification area doesn't respond to being clicked ...but i don't think a lot of users experience that problem
[09:12] <Kruptein> intrapata: system-monitor
[09:12] <Anom> I'm at work anyway so no volume for me :)
[09:12] <intrapata> than kruptein so much more to learn ,, with you guys really apreciate it
[09:12] <EliahKagan> the name of the binary for the System Monitor (in case you're running it from a Terminal or with Alt+F2) is: gnome-system-monitor
[09:13] <hellox> EliahKagan dude /say EliahKagan why i cannot find dvd iso here? http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/
[09:13] <truemove> intrapata: install htop. verry nice. run in the terminal
[09:13] <Anom> I can't see my network drives when attaching files in chrome (or any browser), but can see it fine through the regular file browser. Any way to solve this? (This happens in both unity and LXDE)
[09:13] <intrapata> will try it truemove ^_^
[09:14] <EliahKagan> Anom: do you mean with file:/// ?
[09:14] <Kruptein> I suppose :/
[09:14] <OerHeks> hellox dude, see EliahKagan's message
[09:14] <truemove> intrapata: try write top in your terminal :D
[09:14] <truemove> thats one you have allready
[09:15] <wawowe> Anom: are the network drives nfs?
[09:15] <Anom> EliahKagan, Not sure what you mean? If I open up a folder on my desktop I can see 'mac data' etc which are hosted on a windows server in the office. But when attaching files via chrome or ff I can only see local files?
[09:15] <EliahKagan> Anom: oh i see
[09:15] <Kruptein> truemove system-monitor is also installed by default and much more user friendly for new users
[09:15] <Anom> EliahKagan, Bit of a pain that I need to copy files to my desktop first before I can attach them or vice-versa..
[09:15] <truemove> yes. but him say he want to learn new stuff, good to know the alternetives
[09:16] <EliahKagan> Anom: yeah i think there is a bug reported for this ...anyway, you *should* be able to access your network drives, they're just not mounted in the same place as your local drives (when they are mounted by Nautilus / PCManFM)
[09:17] <EliahKagan> Anom: there is a .gvfs folder in your home folder, you can see if your network drives are accessible inside there
[09:17] <intrapata> truemove,, i already opened terminal and prompt install htop, nothing happnd, T_T
[09:17] <EliahKagan> Anom: you need to show hidden files (Ctrl+H) to see it
[09:17] <Kruptein> intrapata: run gnome-system-monitor for a gui  or top  for a cli
[09:17] <truemove> intrapata: then write htop
[09:17] <Anom> EliahKagan, Yeah I'm in. I can see 'mac data' in it - Which is what I want to see in chrome.
[09:18] <EliahKagan> if it's inside your .gvfs folder, you should be able to browse to that in Chrome ...it should be possible to make it so you can see hidden files in the open file dialog ...or you may be able to manually type in the .gvfs folder name to see its contents in the open file dialog
[09:19] <Kruptein> intrapata it seems that you are rather new to ubuntu/linux in general, you might consider reading some things first like how to install packages etc
[09:19] <Anom> EliahKagan, Ah, so I'll need to go in via chrome to home/.gvfs
[09:19] <intrapata> it worked ^_^ thank truemove,kruptein ^_^
[09:19] <Kruptein> np
[09:19] <EliahKagan> Anom: yes, that will probably work
[09:19] <EliahKagan> Anom: but the other thing to consider is that some websites where you upload files (e.g., Gmail) let you just drag the file icon into the web page
[09:20] <EliahKagan> Anom: so you can drag it from the file browser (Nautilus in Ubuntu ...PCManFM in Lubuntu)
[09:20] <intrapata> @ kruptein yes iam,.. i already start reading books about it,, and try googling things,, sorry for so much question guys
[09:21] <Kruptein> intrapata: nothing wrong with asking questions
[09:21] <truemove> intrapata: NP. now you have 3 to choose from :D
[09:22] <truemove> top, htop and system-monitor
[09:22] <truemove> linux is freedom
[09:22] <truemove> ;)
[09:22] <EliahKagan> Anom: this is *a* bug report for this problem, but i'm not sure it's the one i was thinking of, which i recall was not specific to Chrome/Chromium (and it shouldn't necessarily be, because individual applications *shouldn't* have to do the work themselves of showing gvfs mounts with other mounts): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/796689
[09:23] <Anom> EliahKagan, Thanks! :). I've just bookedmarked .gvfs in my chrome file browser. Seems to have stuck.
[09:23] <EliahKagan> Anom: cool, i'm glad you got a solution that works for you
[09:24] <intrapata> T_T kruptein /truemove and ELiahkagan thanks ^_^
[09:25] <EliahKagan> Anom: personally (though for unrelated reasons, mostly so they can be accessed by multiple user accounts in the same place and survive logging in and out and can be mounted and unmounted easily from the command-line including remotely via SSH), i just "hard-mount" my network shares, for example: sudo smbmount //Del/Beltrami /media/Beltrami -o user=ek
[09:25] <Kruptein> some people using apt-fast?
[09:27] <dr__willis> !info apt-fast
[09:28] <Kruptein> dr__willis: it is an apt-get replacer that uses a faster download system
[09:28] <Kruptein> (with axel to be precise)
[09:28] <EliahKagan> https://github.com/ilikenwf/apt-fast
[09:28] <dr__willis> i still think they need to take that .gvfs thing and make up some sort of 'Network shares' directory
[09:29] <molqr> network is not working with ubuntu 10.04 ... Ethernet Controller : intel corporation unknown device 1503 (rev 05) ...
[09:29] <Kruptein> EliahKagan: I do know where it is located I was wondering whether some other people had the same bug as I have, but as nobody seems to use it , it's not usefull :p
[09:29] <jpds> molqr: Have you tried 12.04 LTS ?
[09:29] <EliahKagan> it does not seem to ever have been packaged officially for Ubuntu: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=apt-fast&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[09:29] <molqr> jpds: thanks for the reply. but due to office policy i have to use 10.04 :( sorry
[09:29] <EliahKagan> Kruptein: yeah i figured you knew, that was for the benefit of other interested people
[09:30] <dr__willis> molqr,  that a wired or wireless card?
[09:30] <Kruptein> good guy eliah :p
[09:30] <molqr> dr__willis: actually this is a lenovo desktop that has both a lan and wireless
[09:30] <EliahKagan> Kruptein: unfortunately i don't use it myself ...but if you're experiencing a problem, you could post about it here and maybe somebody can offer advice even though the script is not widely used
[09:31] <Kruptein> EliahKagan: you can perhaps help me with an actual unity related problem :p
[09:31] <dr__willis> molqr,  so which one are you trying to use?
[09:31] <molqr> the wired one is  Ethernet Controller : intel corporation unknown device 1503 (rev 05) ... while the wireless is realtek
[09:31] <dr__willis> ok. :)
[09:31] <EliahKagan> Kruptein: i can try to
[09:31] <molqr> i m currently trying to set up the wired connection ..
[09:31] <dr__willis> molqr,  how new is this pc? just came out recently?
[09:31] <Kruptein> and my problem with apt-fast is that after every single apt-fast command the /var/lock/apt-fast.lck  is locked
[09:32] <Kruptein> EliahKagan: I can't seem to find out how to only show the windows that are only opened in the current workspace   in the unity-sidebar
[09:32] <Kruptein> now every window from every workspace is listed in the bar, which is imo counter-intuitive
[09:33] <dr__willis> Kruptein,  i dont think there is such a setting. the whold idea is to sort of get away from the user spending time manageing workspaces. and just focus on the apps.
[09:33] <dr__willis> Krum,  gnome-shell does it in an even weirder way
[09:34] <molqr> dr__willis: yes. it's quite recent ..i think :( Lenovo Family H330 .. that's what it says on the cpu.. which by the way is quite small for a cpu that i have ever seen
[09:34] <Kruptein> dr__willis:  too bad :(  because now I can't have a work related and a personal related workspace     (I can but I would still be distracted by the personal apps while Im in the work-related workspace)
[09:34] <amanthakur> hi guys, i am looking for a IDE in linux to debug C programs line by line as we do in visual studio in windows? Can anyone tell if there is any?
[09:35] <dr__willis> molqr,  its rare that ive seen a wirerd network not work. Its very likely its so new the drivers are not in the kernel yet. Its possible you could update/upgrade to the latest packages and it might see/use it. You installed the 10.04.3 (or whatever # the one is with all the updates)
[09:35] <EliahKagan> amanthakur: Insight comes to mind
[09:36] <amanthakur> EliahKagan, thanks lemme try it
[09:36] <dr__willis> Kruptein,  you could alwyas use a differnt dock like awn, or others if you want such a feature and have the panel hide.
[09:36] <EliahKagan> amanthakur: but apparently that's no longer a big hit ;-) see http://www.contrapositivediary.com/?p=1396 for details
[09:37] <EliahKagan> amanthakur: i always run gdb from the command line these days, so it's hard for me to give good advice from personal experience, but http://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/ looks promising
[09:37] <eneasvva> hi, please anybody can say me some irc friendly, where can I speak?
[09:38] <muelli> graphical debugger? nemiver
[09:38] <Kruptein> dr__willis: true
[09:38] <Kruptein> eneasvva: what do you mean exactly?
[09:39] <elky> eneasvva, there's lots of local community channels, where are you from?
[09:39] <amanthakur> EliahKagan, thanks for the nice advice :)
[09:39] <eneasvva> from spain, but I want speak with others communities
[09:39] <dr__willis> Kruptein,  checking askubuntu.com right now.  but ive never seen mention of such a setting
[09:40] <dr__willis> Kruptein,  several hits.. no idea on the answers --> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=unity+workspace+show+current+apps+only
[09:40] <killer> hi guys ...when i run vmware ...it says some modules must be compiled and loaded into running kernel plz help
[09:40] <Kruptein> dr__willis: in the meanwhile I found a bug report on launchpad
[09:40] <elky> eneasvva, #ubuntu-offtopic is for polite chat
[09:40] <dr__willis> Kruptein,  from skimming the answers.. so far it seems.. not possible,
[09:40] <Kruptein> dr__willis: yup too bad :(  thanks for your time though
[09:41] <EliahKagan> Kruptein: this bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/683170) looks like it's about that, but actually isn't ...but i wonder if some users think it is and have therefore given up hope on this feature or not bugreported its absence
[09:41] <eneasvva> elky I searching IRC that not have nothing about computers, just for find people
[09:41] <eneasvva> ircs of friendship
[09:41] <Kruptein> EliahKagan: dr__willis Im looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/689733
[09:41] <elky> eneasvva, #defocus
[09:42] <Kruptein> EliahKagan: oh yh that was the other one I was looking at
[09:42] <eneasvva> thanks elky
[09:42] <EliahKagan> Kruptein: that bug (that you posted a link to) is about the spread and not the launcher ...is that the problem you're having?
[09:43] <Kruptein> EliahKagan: nope I linked the wrong one :p I wanted to link the one you gave xD
[09:44] <EliahKagan> well, the one i gave is not for the feature you want either...it just *seems* like it is so i think people have assumed it is and indicated they were affected by it, instead of reporting a bug about the running emblems (as Mark Shuttleworth called them)
[09:45] <sidvee_> i have running different commands with "&" at the end of it. How to get the list of all those commands?
[09:45] <molqr> do all repos have the same structure? on my university repo we have /ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/current/images/ which has the netboot folder and that has mini.iso ... will i get a full cd installer there?
[09:46] <EliahKagan> sidvee_: jobs
[09:46] <amanthakur> EliahKagan, does it work for C programs also?
[09:46] <Kruptein> EliahKagan: its a bit mixed I have to agree, although I feel that the title does describe my problem and I do agree with the rest of the people
[09:46] <Kruptein> I'm just gonna respond to the bug that I want to see it aswell :D
[09:46] <EliahKagan> sidvee_: but jobs will only list the ones connected to the shell you run it in
[09:47] <sidvee_> EliahKagan: Bang on. #DiesOffShame
[09:47] <EliahKagan> amanthakur: does what work for C programs?
[09:47] <sidvee_> EliahKagan: the overall processes list can be get using top. isnt
[09:47] <EliahKagan> sidvee_: not sure what you're asking, but top will show processes run with &
[09:47] <amanthakur> EliahKagan, ddd
[09:48] <EliahKagan> sidvee_: of course, they may or may not have high enough CPU usage (or whatever you're sorting by) to appear
[09:48] <EliahKagan> amanthakur: yes
[09:48] <sidvee_> EliahKagan: oh never mind. Got the answer. Thank you!
[09:48] <EliahKagan> amanthakur: muelli's suggestion of nemiver will also work with C programs
[09:49] <sidvee_> EliahKagan: So doesn't top show list of all processes currently running? Low priority ones or ones with low cpu usage?
[09:49] <EliahKagan> amanthakur: pretty much everything gdb related will work with C programs ...gcc and gdb target C with more emphasis than other languages (still work with plenty of other languages though)
[09:49] <EliahKagan> sidvee_, no, top shows processes in real time, as you sort them
[09:49] <wawowe> sidvee_: if you want to see a list run ps aux
[09:49] <EliahKagan> sidvee_, if you want to list all processes, you should use ps
[09:50] <EliahKagan> sidvee_, yeah as wawowe says
[09:50] <dr__willis> bash job control - what an exciteing topic. :)
[09:50] <sidvee_> EliahKagan: wawowe : Thanks guys!
[09:50] <sidvee_> wawowe: So, unlike top, ps ain't dynamic. i mean doesnt refresh in real time?
[09:50] <dr__willis> I did see a neat bash cheat sheet once that had a good summary of job control and history functions
[09:50] <fslima0> can anyone help me with some terminology here?
[09:51] <EliahKagan> fslima0, probably, what do you need to know about?
[09:51] <sidvee_> wawowe: EliahKagan Also i believe, we cant kill processes using ps
[09:51] <fslima0> "There is a backup file for all computers and will be available to you on request.
[09:51] <EliahKagan> sidvee_, yeah ps is for listing; use kill or killall to kill
[09:51] <fslima0> what would that mean? :|
[09:52] <EliahKagan> fslima0, i don't know, is there any more context available, like what that is from?
[09:52] <sidvee_> EliahKagan: what is the difference between "ps" and "ps aux"
[09:52] <wawowe> sidvee_: man ps
[09:52] <fslima0> EliahKagan: i am applying for a job. they are putting me on trial and want me to service some computers, remove some virus and upgrade RAM
[09:53] <dr__willis> http://web.mit.edu/gnu/doc/html/features_5.html  has some  info on job controll. but i guess this is more a   process controll management issue. ;)
[09:53] <EliahKagan> dr__willis, well we're mainly talking about process control rather than job control, so that's probably OK
[09:53] <molqr> how can i find which kernel ships with lucid? 2.6.23 or 2.6.24+?
[09:53] <muelli> molqr: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:54] <hkais1> hello all
[09:54] <molqr> muelli: thanks
[09:54] <dr__willis> molqr,  the distrowatch web site at one time also had a nice summary pages on various disrots with versions of what packages they used
[09:54] <hkais1> what is the first script which gets called on boot?
[09:54] <molqr> dr__willis: thanks
[09:54] <EliahKagan> molqr, you can also check on Launchpad for that kind of info: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux (scroll down)
[09:54] <popey> molqr: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/linux-image-generic
[09:54] <wawowe> fslima0 it means just what it says
[09:54] <dr__willis> hkais1,  thats a rather complex question once you get underneeth it. ;)
[09:55] <hkais1> dr__willis: ?
[09:55] <dr__willis> hkais1,  i belive there is the initrd thats like a mini os that actually loads first, then hands off the booting to the main os.
[09:55] <dr__willis> hkais1,  so what are you trying to figureout/do exactly
[09:55] <wawowe> hkais1: init
[09:55] <molqr> EliahKagan: thanks. popey : thanks for your precise answer :)
[09:55] <hkais1> dr__willis: okay and what is the very first after the mini os?
[09:55] <dr__willis> init isent really a 'script' ;) so its sort of depends on the details
[09:55] <fslima0> wawowe: i didn't understand the backup file thing
[09:55] <fslima0> part
[09:56] <dr__willis> hkais1,  grub loads the kernel -> that starts init, that does the rest.
[09:56] <hkais1> okay: I have a system which isn't booting any more. I need to know that calls the init.d/* scripts
[09:56] <wawowe> dr__willis: init depends on init scripts :P
[09:56] <hkais1> dr__willis: what das init ?
[09:57] <hkais1> so is there a description for 8.04lts?
[09:57] <dr__willis> !init
[09:57] <wawowe> fslima0: what don't you understand?
[09:57] <dr__willis> !8.04
[09:58] <wawowe> fslima0: i backup file like a zip file of something valuable stored somewhere else other than on the computer it came from
[09:58] <DJones> fslima0: You may be better asking questions like that in #ubuntu-offtopic, thats more of a general chat channel than here which is for ubuntu support, people there will probably be able to talk you through things like that
[09:59] <hkais1> dr__willis: the booting is fine, but my services/daemons aren't starting. So under suse/rpm was a init-script which itself started the rcx.d/*-scripts. what is the boot order in ubuntu?
[09:59] <hkais1> and what are the scripts?
[09:59] <dr__willis> fslima0,  i hate to say it.. but it sounds like the job may be beyond your skill set.
[09:59] <molqr> i have booted a system with mini.iso the netinstall image ... i need to build the ethernet module ? does the mini.iso have build tools?
[09:59] <fslima0> dr__willis: no way :P
[09:59] <fslima0> right now it's the basics
[09:59] <dr__willis> hkais1,  thats the Upstart system.  which is why i was asking what you were really trying to do. ;)
[09:59] <popey> molqr: unlikely, alt+f2 will get you a terminal
[09:59] <dr__willis> fslima0,  if a term like 'backup file' confuses you... well......
[10:00] <hkais1> upstart was not part of 8.04!
[10:00] <fslima0> i know what a backup file is
[10:00] <dr__willis> hkais1,  then thats using the older sysv system
[10:00] <molqr> popey: so i need to build the module on a diff computer and then bring it to this computer?
[10:00] <dr__willis> which is being replaced by upstart
[10:00] <hkais1> !sysv
[10:00] <fslima0> he says there is a backup file and will be available to you on request
[10:00] <Eagleman> is this normal? 193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   190   190   000    Old_age   Always       -       32176
[10:00] <popey> molqr: or use a full install ISO
[10:00] <dr__willis> those are not the 'first' scripts that get ran. :)
[10:01] <molqr> popey: ok
[10:01] <dr__willis> fslima0,  right.. so theres a file.. it has all the backups in it.. if you need them,. you can get to them..
[10:01] <wawowe> fslima0: available on request meaning you can have it if you ask for it
[10:01] <dr__willis> sort of pointless to have a backup file you cant get to if needed. ;)
[10:02] <fslima0> yea
[10:03] <fslima0> dr__willis, wawowe thanks for the help
[10:04] <fslima0> now it's time to do some researching
[10:06] <dr__willis> repeate after me 'do you want frys with that?'
[10:06] <dr__willis> :)
[10:06] <fslima0> :)
[10:06]  * wawowe injects some artic freeze gatorade
[10:06] <dr__willis> be a smart head and ask them how they knwo the virus iswent in their backups. ;)
[10:07] <fslima0> it's a trial so maybe theirs is clean
[10:08] <dr__willis> there was a bit of a trend/fad at one time to get linux systems using read only for / and other system files/places
[10:08] <dr__willis> 'trial' sounds.. weird.
[10:08] <fslima0> putting me on trial practice
[10:09] <dzup> !unity
[10:10] <dzup> how do you take off unity and get the gnome default menu bar?
[10:10] <dzup> !notunity
[10:13] <alexxyx> Hi people!
[10:13] <wawowe> alexxyx: HI!
[10:13] <alexxyx> I need some help
[10:13] <alexxyx> Can I ask something?
[10:13] <wawowe> alexxyx: you sure can :)
[10:14] <alexxyx> I'm new ubuntu user. I have 12.04 version
[10:14] <alumno20> hello
[10:14] <alexxyx> I'm new ubuntu user. I have 12.04 version
[10:14] <alumno20> i have a problem
[10:15] <alexxyx> now, my brother can't get to use all new surrounding
[10:15] <CaBa> hi
[10:15] <alexxyx> so, I'd like to adjust theme to look like windows 7
[10:15] <alexxyx> but
[10:15] <CaBa> is there any semiofficial ppa for oracle java on ubuntu 12.04?
[10:15] <alumno20> ehhh
[10:15] <alexxyx> I followed some articles on internet
[10:15] <muelli> CaBa: there is a search interface for PPAs.
[10:15] <muelli> !enter | alexxyx
[10:16] <alumno20> niggas
[10:16] <CaBa> muelli: yes, but i didn't ask if *any* java ppa exists. i'm aware that there are some. i'm wondering how trust worthy the maintainers of the ppas are
[10:16] <wawowe> alexxyx: the closest looking/feeling thing to windows 7 is kde4
[10:17] <alexxyx> but they won't work (it's for 11. version of ubuntu). So, I had to install Gnome3 (I researched and found out that 12.04 has Unity, but for most win7 themes I need gnome3
[10:19] <wawowe> alexxyx: so why not keep using gnome3 and a win7 theme?
[10:19] <dr__willis> alexxyx,  you mean gnome-shell?
[10:19] <alexxyx> But still, I cant get it to work. There is always some error. Some files aren't available anymore... Would someone be kind to guide me through the whole process? I'm not the beginner (I mean, I know how to follow, I know basics (terminal, etc.)) I would be very greatful.
[10:19] <dr__willis> 12.04 uses unity on top of gnome-3
[10:20] <alexxyx> I installed gnome-shell as well, although I don't know what's the difference between gnome3 and gnome-shell
[10:20] <dr__willis> !gnome-shell
[10:20] <dr__willis> you may want to spend some time learning ubuntu, befor spending hours trying to get a theme going
[10:20] <alumno20> oye
[10:21] <alexxyx> sorry, one more thing, how do I turn this "joined on #ubuntu" notifications, I can't focus well on what you guys write
[10:21] <dr__willis> those old 'make your ubuntu system look like OS-X or win7 or whatever scripts - often cause major issues'
[10:21] <dr__willis> alexxyx,  depends on what irc client you are using.
[10:21] <alexxyx> webirc, from ubuntu-rs.org site
[10:22] <alexxyx> haven't installed any irc app yet
[10:22] <dr__willis> its in the setting menus i belive
[10:23] <dr__willis> you may want to test out 'xchat' if you want to irc a lot. :)
[10:23] <Anom> Ive installed xchat and I'm not impressed :(
[10:24] <dr__willis> it does its job. and has just enough features to do it well.
[10:24] <Anom> The notifications are all over the place, and its hard to differentiate users because it doesnt colour code
[10:24] <dr__willis> color code? you mean their messages?
[10:24] <alexxyx> I remember there's some ignore option... Do I have to ignore channel ?
[10:24] <Anom> Yeah like Pidgin
[10:24] <TheTrash> How come a freshly mkfs'ed disk already has about 7GB used (out of 466GB) when apparently there's no data on it? (it was made with -m 0 so it's not reserved space). Does the journal take that much space?
[10:24] <dr__willis> I perfer just coloring the nicks.. colord text would  be unreadable at times.
[10:24] <Anom> dr__willis, Yeah thats what I'm talking about - xchat doesnt do that
[10:25] <blackshirt1> what the problems with min http://postimage.org/image/y0ppjfggl/
[10:25] <dr__willis> xchat could do it i imagine. but i wouldent want it to. ;)
[10:25] <alexxyx> !gnome-shell
[10:25] <alexxyx> [10:25] <dr__willis> alexxyx,  theres normally some hide part/join feature in most every irc cleient
[10:26] <wawowe> alexxyx: link to whatever guide you were following
[10:26] <fslima0> dr__willis: for a laptop to have 3GB of RAM, it has to be 3x1GB right? There is no 3GB memory stick is there?
[10:26] <fslima0> lol
[10:26] <fslima0> im not up to date
[10:26] <alexxyx> http://www.howtogeek.com/55985/how-to-make-ubuntu-linux-look-like-windows-7/
[10:27] <alexxyx> or http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-make-ubuntu-look-like-windows-7-theme/
[10:27] <dr__willis> fslima0,   No idea. but ive never seen an odd # memory stick befor
[10:27] <dr__willis> fslima0,  could be a 2 and a 1
[10:27] <fslima0> i see
[10:27] <wawowe> alexxyx: and what was the error
[10:28] <dr__willis> alexxyx,  using such 'scripts' to try to set that stuff up. can cause very bad system breakage.
[10:28] <dr__willis> alexxyx,  i susggest not using them
[10:29] <alexxyx> So, dr_willis, what do you suggest me to do? How do I make it by myself?
[10:30] <krux> why would you want to make your desktop look like crappy 7 for :S lol
[10:30] <alexxyx> krux, as I said, it's for my brother
[10:30] <dr__willis> the date on those posts is march 2011. I definatly would avoid them. I doubt if they work in 12.04 at all.
[10:30] <alexxyx> I know, cause they dont
[10:30] <dr__willis> If you want a more classic style desktop use the gnome fallback, or try lubuntu, or xubuntu
[10:31] <molqr> how do i find the name of the motherboard? any tools like lspci for this task?
[10:31] <dr__willis> !info hwinfo
[10:31] <dr__willis> molqr,  there may be some other tools. but i rarely need such info. ;)
[10:31] <dr__willis> hwinfo seems a decent tool however
[10:31] <molqr> dr__willis: ok sir :)
[10:34] <dr__willis> 49% [466 libreoffice-core 6,743 kB/38.8 MB 17%]       240 B/s 13d 5h 36min 3s
[10:34] <dr__willis> Hmm... servers seem slow? or is it just me. ;P
[10:34] <wawowe> abort
[10:35] <wawowe> alexxyx: what was the error
[10:37] <dr__willis> Hmm. somehow my windows controlls are on the right side of the window.. but in fact are actually on the left side.  but invissible.
[10:38] <dr__willis> min/maxing the window fixed it.. that was a weird glitz.
[10:38] <vladivar> i just installed 12.04 to my laptop and the cpu-battery performance is really horrible. usage is constantly jumping around 20-90 percents. what could be the reason? this machine perfomed really well on speed and battery sustain on win7.
[10:38] <dr__willis> vladivar,  id check the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact make of laptop. there may be some known issues and work arounds.
[10:40] <vladivar> dr__willis, will give it a shot. do you agree that its abnormal to have 20-90 percent of cpu usage on an idle machine with clean installation?
[10:40] <sesom42> dr__willis: to change the button positions: alt-f2 -> gconf-editor -> Apps/Metacity/General ->button_layout
[10:40] <dr__willis> sesom42,  they are changed. :) but its not showing them changed in some windows.
[10:41] <dr__willis> vladivar,  theres been issues in the kernel/power saveing features with laptops for the last 2 releases or so. 12.04 fixed a lot of them. but new laptops keep comming out that the fixs dont work on.
[10:42] <r4y> I am running Ubuntu 10 and the screen is only normal when in graphical failsafe mode. When I boot up normally the screen is off to the right an inch and half
[10:42] <dr__willis> r4y,  what video card/chipset and driver and what kind of monitor/hookup?
[10:43] <alexxyx> hey
[10:43] <wawowe> alexxyx: hey
[10:43] <Drecondius> Hello
[10:44] <Drecondius> I'll have my question ready in a few moments. Virtualbox is acting funny
[10:46] <r4y> Nvidia 7100GS, I am not sure about what kind of monitor type. I asked someone here and he said I have an LCD monitor, I found flat monitors called LCD monitors, but this is not a flat monitor and one of my brothers said it's not an LCD monitor but I don't think he knows much about computers so
[10:46] <alexxyx> I decided that I'll install MATE desktop
[10:46] <alexxyx> the one is used on Mynth
[10:47] <alexxyx> it looks similar to  Microsoft Windows. Hope that will satisfy my brother :)
[10:47] <dr__willis> If its a big old fashioned CRT monitor r4y  it may have controlls or knobs to adjust it also bey be you need to mess with the monitors tool and change the refresh rate
[10:47] <lpe> wawowe: apt-file - search for files within Debian packages (command-line interface)
[10:47] <lpe> wawowe: just found that
[10:47] <dr__willis> alexxyx,  and its not supported here. while lubuntu, or xubuntu is..
[10:47] <r4y> I am using the recommended driver that the hardware driver installer had to offer
[10:48] <dr__willis> r4y,  Under the top right gear icon-> displays  -> there may be some other res's for you to mess with.
[10:49] <dr__willis> i  dont even have a crt monitor left in this house. :) i gave them all away.
[10:49] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011068/
[10:49] <anon17> can sum one tell me how to install nvidia drivers on ubuntu?
[10:49] <dr__willis> anon17,  the normal way would be to run the 'addational drivers' tool (or from cli run jockey-gtk) and let it install them.
[10:49] <stephanmg> hello. i want to install packages for the go language, but what's the way to do it on ubuntu?
[10:50] <anon17> @dr__willis ... yeah .. didnt work .. it keeps failing for some reason
[10:50] <r4y> dr__willis	r4y, Under the top right gear icon-> displays -> there may be some other res's for you to mess with.
[10:50] <r4y> where
[10:50] <dr__willis> r4y,  what ubuntu release are you using? its right there in 12.04
[10:51] <anon17> is there a way to install them from the terminal
[10:51] <anon17> ??
[10:51] <r4y> Do you mean in nvidia-settings?
[10:51] <dr__willis> anon17,  the package 'nvidia-current'
[10:51] <dr__willis> r4y,  if you are using a nvidia card,  then you can use nvidia-settings tool for more control - try changeing the refresh rates
[10:51] <anon17> so ... apt-get install nvidia-current should do it right ??
[10:51] <dr__willis> r4y,  amd disabling any overscan.
[10:51] <dr__willis> anon17,  yes. but that should be exactly what the addational-drivers tool is doing
[10:52] <CaBa> is there an xfce4 package equivalent to the metapackage "kde-full"?
[10:52] <anon17> yeah except that didnt work :P .. anywayz thnx a lot .. i guess it iz working
[10:52] <anon17> !!
[10:52] <r4y> Sorry, I got disconnected
[10:53] <dr__willis> anon17,  for nvidia. i nroamly have to reboot. then run the nvidia-settings tool. then tweak the system how i want. save the xorg.conf then restart the x server
[10:53] <dr__willis> r4y,  if you are using a nvidia card,  then you can use nvidia-settings tool for more control - try changeing the refresh rates
[10:53] <r4y> OK
[10:53] <dr__willis> Looking at buying  a new LCD today if i find any nice ones on sale. ;P
[10:53] <wawowe> lpe: cool
[10:54] <alexxyx> Guys, I really need your help. I stucked at http://mate-desktop.org/install/#ubuntu .  After I type sudo apt-get install mate-archive-keyring , it says: sudo apt-get install mate-archive-keyring
[10:54] <Anom> Is there a knack to getting the notifications to work on xchat in Ubuntu? I've disabled all the Alerts in Settings > Preferences > Alerts but my taskbar still flashes when anyone says anything to anyone else in any channel. Frustrating. :/
[10:54] <alexxyx> sorry, wrong coppied
[10:54] <dr__willis> alexxyx,  mate is  not supported here. while lubuntu, or xubuntu is..
[10:54] <anon17> oh ... yeah i tweaked xorg.conf ... im waitin fr the package to get installed ... ( cant play quake4) :P
[10:54] <alexxyx> it says: E: Unable to locate package mate-archive-keyring
[10:55] <dr__willis> alexxyx,  you add a new repo/ppa you MUST do a 'sudo apt-get update' befor installing  packages from it
[10:55] <r4y> dr__willis that was the problem
[10:55] <r4y> thank you
[10:56] <dr__willis> r4y,  now you know why ive dumpped all my old CRTs ;)
[10:56] <dr__willis> old back breakers! ;)
[10:56] <Eagleman> How do i backup this file using tar? /home/sabnzbd/.sabnzbd/sabnzb.ini
[10:56] <r4y> ha ha ha, It was at 75 hz I remember it normally being set to 60 by default
[10:57] <Eagleman> tar: /home/sabnzbd/.sabnzbd/sabnzb.ini: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[10:57] <dr__willis> try a ls -l   /home/sabnzbd/.sabnzbd/sabnzb.ini
[10:57] <dr__willis> Rember in linux Case iS impoRanTanT
[10:58] <r4y> Now to fix my grub menu, there are many listed. I tried update-grub but it is still the same
[10:58] <dr__willis> r4y,  i recall the old days when a bad refresh rate could damage a crt. ;) years ago.
[10:58] <wawowe> Eagleman: tar cvf backup.tar /home/sabnzbd/.sabnzbd
[10:58] <dr__willis> r4y,  thats a little vague.. many what listed?
[10:58] <angs> I inserted a SD card to format, how can I see inserted SD cards' device name (X of sdX)?
[10:59] <Drecondius> If it's anything like mine was there's probably about 12 kernels listed
[10:59] <dr__willis> angs,  several ways. 'sudo blkid'  or check out put of 'dmesg' near the end.
[10:59] <dr__willis> angs,  'sudo fdisk -l' also may work
[10:59] <Eagleman> ls: cannot access /home/sabnzbd/.sabnzbd/sabnzb.ini: No such file or directory
[10:59] <angs> dr_willis: thanks a lot
[10:59] <Eagleman> i'm 100% sure the file is there
[10:59] <dr__willis> angs,  ive had sd cards be /dev/mmc#### befor also
[10:59] <anon17> @dr__wilis ... it worked .. :D thnx  a lo
[10:59] <anon17> *lot
[11:00] <r4y> Actually, my monitor has been having problems to the point that it stopped working for a while then I opened it just to look for at least looking sack. After doing so it starting working again.
[11:00] <angs> dr_willis: I saw that mine is also mmcb, thanks for your help
[11:01] <dr__willis> angs,   built in netbook/laptop readers i see normally as the mmcb, usb adaptors come as sdXX
[11:01] <dr__willis> not exactly sure why the differance
[11:02] <r4y> It makes my want to start my other 2 hard drives and change nvidia-settings to 60 hz for all of them
[11:02] <angs> thanks for the information
[11:03] <Drecondius> Should I have given my Virtual Boxed Ubuntu 2 of my 6 cores instead of 1?
[11:07] <r4y> How do I edit the grub menu so there are less choices?, I mean I didn't count but it looked like 7 with 7 restore or what ever they are called entries
[11:07] <zombifier> You need to remove the old kernels
[11:07] <r4y> I have always been confused are this
[11:07] <lizzin> will running 'X -config' produce a config file that has the same settings as used by the default X setup?
[11:07] <r4y> It's one install of Ubuntu 10
[11:08] <r4y> why all the entries for one OS?
[11:08] <crizis> older kernels
[11:08] <crizis> you're anyway running old old release if you have 10.04
[11:08] <zombifier> As Ubuntu upgrades to a new kernel, the old ones are not removed
[11:08] <crizis> newer ones only list latest kernel in grub
[11:09] <wawowe> lizzin: Xorg -configure
[11:10] <wawowe> r4y: they are kept by default in case someone has an issue with the new kernel.. like their drivers don't work anymore, they can boot up with the old one
[11:11] <dr__willis> vvv
[11:11] <lizzin> wawowe: so that will produce a config file that uses the same settings as the default X setup?
[11:11] <wawowe> lizzin: yes
[11:11] <lizzin> wawowe: ok, thanks
[11:11] <r4y> I am still lost. I have been with Ubuntu since Gutsy Gibbons. I always make a CD for the version of Ubuntu I want to use. I never upgrade the distro, but I have done sudo apt-get upgrade which is different. So does this mean the difference between 10.04.01 and 10.04.02
[11:11] <dr__willis> Overloaded my usb port with to many mice keybords and cellphones chargeing. :)
[11:12] <dr__willis> r4y,  latest updates get rolled into the iso file to save you downloading a lot of updates on a new install
[11:12] <dr__willis> r4y,  so normally you always want the latest .version
[11:13] <dr__willis> seems about every 6-8 months they come out with a new .version depending on how many updates/fixs came out
[11:14] <Drecondius> am I correct in my assumption that Ubuntu 12 does NOT like VirtualBox?
[11:14] <dr__willis> Drecondius,  ive not heard of many complaints about it.
[11:14] <Drecondius> Well it certianly seems as though it doesn't like being run in it.
[11:15] <r4y> I decided to stick to 10.04 because I don't like Unity, but maybe Unity will change enough that I will like it in the future
[11:15] <Drecondius> I like Unity. Beats the hell out of Win 7 shell with ease.
[11:16] <Drecondius> then again I like testing out new things as well :D
[11:16] <dr__willis> unity works very well in 12.04
[11:16] <dr__willis> the HUD is very handy
[11:16] <Drecondius> Indeed it does.
[11:16] <Drecondius> It's even configurable now.
[11:16] <r4y> I didn't like the limited appearance options, and I usually know what works with 10.04
[11:17] <dr__willis> the # of lenses out there - is also getting very nice. and extra indicator-applets for most needs
[11:17] <Drecondius> How long can it take for dpkg --configure -a to finish
[11:17] <dr__willis> in reminded of all the complaings against gnome2 about ITS limited appearance options....
[11:17] <dr__willis> complaints.. ;)
[11:18] <dr__willis> Drecondius,  totally depends on a lot of variables..  # of packages. system speeds , hd speeds
[11:18] <dr__willis> its basically checking the whole system
[11:19] <Drecondius> Just finished lol
[11:19] <dr__willis> there ya go. :P
[11:19] <r4y> I am too happy with 10.04 to change over.
[11:19] <dr__willis> well 10.04 is on a limited life span now..
[11:19] <dr__willis> !10.04
[11:19] <r4y> Anyways, what file do I show you to look at the grub menu for this hard drive?
[11:20] <Drecondius> I'm still trying to  get my wireless card to work in it, hence the reason it's in a virtual box.
[11:20] <dr__willis> !grub2 | r4y
[11:20] <dr__willis> r4y,  what are you wanting to change in grub?
[11:20] <r4y> What do you mean limited life?, I thought that long term was only for security updates?
[11:21] <dr__willis> r4y,  I see people in here every week trying to put 10.04 on 'new' hardware. and theres just to many issues/unsupported hardware. So use it if you want. have fun.
[11:21] <intrapata> good eve everyone
[11:21] <Drecondius> r4y: Kernel updates as well sadly.
[11:22] <dr__willis> of coruse with the move to the new kernel versions. that leaves the older releases a generation behind in many ways
[11:22] <r4y> But what does that mean?, That's something I've wanted to know for the longest time
[11:22] <dr__willis> what does 'what' mean exactly?
[11:23] <Drecondius> If you can't update the kernel you can't get security fixes, driver updates, etc, etc
[11:23] <r4y> If long term support is gone and I want to install Ubuntu 10.04 on a  hard drive can I get everything like it is on this hard drive?
[11:24] <zombifier> You will not be able to download updates while installing
[11:24] <r4y> If the hardware is the same?
[11:24] <zombifier> What do you mean?
[11:25] <r4y> I am not sure if I can ask what I want to know
[11:25] <dr__willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/130092/what-does-ubuntu-mean-by-support-for-its-releases
[11:25] <dr__willis> support = updated security fixs and other major bug fixs
[11:25] <fff> hi
[11:25] <wawowe> fff: HI!
[11:26] <r4y> For example can I get the latest banshee Ubuntu 10.04 had right before it had long term support?
[11:26] <fff> hi
[11:26] <wawowe> fff: HI!
[11:26] <fff> pls asl?
[11:26] <r4y> not the latest from now though
[11:26] <Eagleman> How do i get the output of the -v parameter in a logfile? http://pastebin.com/Xu4E8zCC
[11:26] <wawowe> fff: m/4/nc
[11:27] <dr__willis> Ubuntu basically locks the versions of the apps down to each release.
[11:27] <dr__willis> so whatever version is in 10.04 stays at that version.
[11:27] <zombifier> "Feature Freeze"
[11:27] <Drecondius> How do I uninstall something through apt? apt-get uninstall or apt-get remove?
[11:27] <dr__willis> If thers some security issue in Banshee. it would get updated to fix the bug. which MAY mean they fix the bug in that older version.
[11:27] <r4y> OK, so then all should be well for me if I stay with Ubuntuy 10 on this setup
[11:27] <dr__willis> !apt
[11:27] <dr__willis> apt-get remove packagename
[11:28] <Drecondius> Thank ya kindly
[11:28] <Eagleman> How do i get the output of the -v parameter in a logfile? http://pastebin.com/Xu4E8zCC
[11:28] <zombifier> Eagleman: Try commandname &> log.txt
[11:29] <r4y> I don't think I will likely be hacked as I have nothing of interest for hackers
[11:29] <Eagleman> thanks, i tried > before but it didnt work, i will try this
[11:29] <wawowe> tar cvf stuff.tar sutff | tee output
[11:29] <wawowe> Eagleman: ^^
[11:30] <zombifier> Yeah tee is better since it shows you what is happening
[11:30] <r4y> I think I get it though. Thank you for the info
[11:30] <tejaswidp> I installed the libstdc++6-4.6-doc  package still I can't get " man std::iostream" to work. Is there something I am missing?
[11:30] <r4y> I was hoping what you said was going to be what they do
[11:30] <Eagleman> &> didnt worked
[11:31] <zombifier> Try tee
[11:31] <tapas> does ubuntu have packages for -rt kernels (ingo's realtime patches)?
[11:34] <Drecondius> Gah, I have never had so much of a headache as from the way ubuntu runs on me comp
[11:34] <Drecondius> It just doesn't like my hardware.
[11:34] <r4y> I am not sure I want to mess with grub on this hard drive anyways because I need to back up from it soon.
[11:34] <r4y> TY for the help. Have a good day everyone. :) /
[11:35] <zombifier> I don't remember the exact procedure to remove old kernels, but you can Google it
[11:35] <Drecondius> When I do an install to physical disk it refuses to load X without the nomodeset option
[11:35] <r4y> Right, when I have time I should google it.
[11:35] <Eagleman> thanks wawowe and zombifier, it worked
[11:36] <vperic> hi, on my opensuse system, using eg. "git log" allows me to scroll with my mousewheel inside the terminal.. this doesn't seem to work with Ubuntu, any ideas?
[11:36] <dr__willis> use the pacakge manager to remove them..
[11:37] <Drecondius> Can someone please enlighten me as to how a virtual disk becomes corrupted.
[11:38] <wawowe> vperic: if scrolling doesn't work use shift+pgup
[11:38] <zombifier> virtual disk?
[11:38] <angs> what is the command to see mounted devices
[11:38] <Drecondius> eg: Fake disk
[11:38] <ikonia> Drecondius: same as a physical disk
[11:38] <wawowe> vperic: there's no reason it shouldn't work though, unless you're running in screen or something like that
[11:39] <ikonia> Drecondius: it's the file system, not the device that becomes corrupted
[11:39] <angs> how can I see the mounted devices list?
[11:39] <Overlord> Greetings
[11:39] <vperic> wawowe: I think you misunderstood; I can scroll the terminal, I'd like to scroll the output of the command only
[11:39] <ikonia> angs: mount
[11:39] <vperic> not sure how to explain
[11:39] <Overlord> has anyone installed ubuntu 12.04 recently?
[11:39] <Drecondius> Me, In a virtual machine :D
[11:39] <wawowe> vperic: like when you press up and down arrow keys at the prompt?
[11:39] <vperic> wawowe: yes
[11:39] <zombifier> angs: you can see them in Nautilus, the file manager.
[11:40] <tejaswidp> vperic pipe output to the less command
[11:40] <jhonnyecija> hola
[11:40] <vperic> tejaswidp: I'd like that to be the default, I can't pipe it every time
[11:40] <jhonnyecija> atodos
[11:41] <tejaswidp> No idea then
[11:41] <angs> thanks
[11:41] <vperic> huh, found a bug for it I guess: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/git-core/+bug/326460
[11:43] <vperic> it says I should "export LESS=RS"... how do I do that?
[11:43] <zombifier> type the command into the terminal
[11:43] <zombifier> If you don't want to do it everytime, place it at the end of .bashrc
[11:44] <vperic> perfect, thanks zombifier, I was missing the "export" command :)
[11:46] <Qasaur> Hey guys
[11:53] <zastaph> git is at 1.7.9.5 in Ubuntu 12.04 .. where do I check the schedule for when aptitude will update it to 1.7.10.x ?
[11:53] <susundberg> zastaph: I would guess there is no schedule made
[11:54] <Drecondius> Wouldn't you need to add a ppa in that case then?
[11:54] <zastaph> yes, but I could wait for the "official" update, if I just knew if the schedule would be in weeks or months
[11:56] <zastaph> so when does someone decide it's time to update it?
[11:58] <zombifier> If he has upload rights to Ubuntu, then he may upload it
[12:00] <zastaph> well latest stable git is 1.7.10.3
[12:00] <zastaph> i thought the span between aptitude and stable releases were due to a testing period
[12:01] <zombifier> Yes. It must go through testing to ensure it does not cause dependency issues
[12:02] <zastaph> right.. just hoped to have a way to view the status of next planned upgrade
[12:02] <zastaph> 1.7.10 supports gitconfig includes which is quite convenient :) http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1557183/is-it-possible-to-include-a-file-in-your-gitconfig
[12:04] <catmando> hey all
[12:04] <catmando> i've got a new 12.04 install running
[12:05] <catmando> and i broke it with hibernate - it has an encrypted swap. i used a pretty decent how-to to change the swap key to a static value
[12:05] <catmando> but now the system won't boot with evms_activate nto available
[12:05] <catmando> any dieas?
[12:06] <ikonia> catmando: why are you using encypted swap ?
[12:07] <catmando> ikonia: hey, that's just what came out of the box
[12:07] <zombifier> Encrypted home folders usually comes with encrypted swap
[12:07] <ikonia> catmando: ubuntu doesn't encypt swap by default
[12:07] <ikonia> catmando: you have to tell it to enable encyption
[12:08] <DoctorD90> How to uninstall gnome-shell ?? Installed with sudo apt-get install gnome-shell  ??
[12:08] <zombifier> sudo apt-get remove gnome-shell ?
[12:08] <catmando> ikonia: yes, i chose 'encrypt my home folder' in the install
[12:09] <DoctorD90> Thx zombifier ^^
[12:10] <DoctorD90> What is --purge option?
[12:10] <laumonier> hello does cinnamon is in the repository ???i dont find it thx
[12:10] <zombifier> DoctorD90: purge removes system-wide configurations
[12:11] <zombifier> it does not remove user config though (if my memory is correct)
[12:11] <zombifier> laumonier: Cinnamon is not in the repos. You must add a PPA
[12:11] <laumonier> ok thx
[12:11] <DoctorD90> I can use it to clear all noob settings make in it?
[12:13] <laumonier> is this good or is there something more official? https://launchpad.net/~merlwiz79/+archive/cinnamon-ppa??thx
[12:15] <angs> can someone suggest me a portscanner?
[12:16] <angs> to find neighboring devices
[12:16] <reisio> laumonier: http://packages.linuxmint.com/ would have it, too
[12:16] <zombifier> nmap
[12:16] <angs> thanks
[12:22] <ninux> 3/exit
[12:23] <Anger_On> Howdy All
[12:25] <laumonier> the ppa doesnt manage dependencies?
[12:26] <zombifier> Yes
[12:26] <zombifier> it does
[12:27] <jaimef> is there any upgrade mode? or is it all install/nuke existing install?
[12:28] <laumonier> i want to install cinamon i ve had the ppa but it tells me some package have unsatisfacted dependencies
[12:28] <ikonia> laumonier: contact the PPA owner
[12:31] <jiemar_> hello baby
[12:31] <reisio> hey honey
[12:31] <op_> anyone can explain me why is there 6 "getty" process in task manager?
[12:32] <zombifier> 6? that's the right number
[12:32] <Unknown0BC> Hi, which ubuntu app can I use to monitor the data in and data out ( amounts ) on my broadband connection ?
[12:32] <jiemar_> ifstat
[12:32] <kayabe> Op_, yes, that was child executed from upstart init process
[12:32] <zombifier> From agetty's man page: agetty opens a tty port, prompts for a login name and invokes the /bin/login command. It is normally invoked by init(8).
[12:33] <op_> Rly? Well thank you for ur response kayabe zombifier
[12:33] <kayabe> Op_, you can disable it one or two of them from being executed
[12:35] <op_> kayabe Ill google a bit more if its safe :D dont wonna "kill" anythign vital
[12:35] <zombifier> Generally, you should not kill processes made by root
[12:36] <kayabe> Op_, don't disable all of them, 6 was for console login, and 7 was usually for X / gui desktop
[12:36] <op_> Yeah they are all started by root zombifier.
[12:37] <jaimef> wow that sucks
[12:37] <zombifier> ?
[12:37] <kayabe> Jaimef, what sucks?
[12:38] <op_> I so wish they would made flash aid for google chrome,flash in chromium and gchrome is awful for me. :/
[12:38] <fl1bbl3> flash in anything is awful :)
[12:38] <sary> angs: port scanner ! for what ..
[12:39] <op_> and having AMD rejected card is a plus too :D
[12:39] <zombifier> I thought Flash in Chrome/ium is supposed to be better, since it's packaged by Big Brother, I mean Google itself
[12:39] <kayabe> Op_, maybe better you not kill process started by root, but maybe more wise to disable through config file...and reboot the system
[12:39] <op_> zombifier on windows 7 it is.But on Lubuntu Firefox is way better
[12:40] <kayabe> flash was sucks, it will eat your a lot of process memory on desktop..
[12:40] <DeltaHeavy> op_: Flash is crap on Linux period, and arguably crap overall these days
[12:40] <zombifier> Adobe killed Flash on Linux
[12:40] <op_> Yup
[12:40] <zombifier> It used to suck, now it will suck more
[12:41] <jaimef> so has "upgrade" options just ceased to exist in linux distros now?
[12:42] <zombifier> upgrade as in upgrade packages?
[12:42] <Unknown0BC> What application would you suggest to monitor bandwith usage on a broadband connection ( oneiric )
[12:42] <op_> Sad thing is I disabled Google flash addon in GChrome and flash still sucks
[12:42] <sary> op_: to stream videos in youtube i use html5 , for other sites when flash is required i use Gnash . check it out
[12:42] <DeltaHeavy> jaimef: They were never really working all to well anyway if you're talking about upgrading versions of a distro
[12:42] <op_> will do sary
[12:42] <saju_m> i can not access  server using openvpn , see http://dpaste.com/752712/
[12:42] <zombifier> Upgrading distros is like all-or-nothing.
[12:43] <sary> Unknown0BC: in Gnome-shell i can use an extension for that .
[12:43] <jaimef> I am talking about losing a days work because an install of 12 ate it self and would no longer boot. even a preservation install would be welcomed
[12:43] <jaimef> this is like slackware 92 all over again
[12:43] <zombifier> Upgrading is no where failsafe
[12:43] <Unknown0BC> sary ?
[12:43] <rigved> !info nethogs | Unknown0BC
[12:44] <DeltaHeavy> jaimef: Get your data off that drive, and reinstall.
[12:44] <zombifier> That's why I have a separate /home partition
[12:44] <op_> sary are you having any major issue using gnash? "Gnash is being actively developed at the moment. Therefore, although many features work, not all movies play successfully."
[12:44] <jaimef> well the home encryption option won't be put to use this time :P
[12:44] <Unknown0BC> rigved, thanks checking that one out.
[12:44] <sary> jaimef: Whats the status of your ubuntu box at the moment.
[12:45] <jaimef> encryption is too important to leave to a distro that want's to reformat to "fix" things :P
[12:45] <jaimef> fresh install
[12:45] <zombifier> jaimef: go for LTS then you'll be happy for 5 years, which is a lot
[12:45] <jaimef> for some odd reason X was hung, reboot and it hung in init.d between on the crypto stuff for home
[12:45] <jaimef> 12 LTS is what I was using :P
[12:46] <rigved> Unknown0BC: if you use a ethernet connection, then type "sudo nethogs eth0". For wireless, "sudo nethogs wlan0". You are welcome.
[12:46] <jaimef> love init.d that won't let you send any signals to it to get past brokeness
[12:46] <DeltaHeavy> He means you won't have to upgrade often if you use LTS as you're supported for 5 years.
[12:46] <jaimef> dash was a good idea
[12:46] <sary> op_: haven't noiced any major issues with Gnash . you mean most websites requires Adobe Flash plugin :D
[12:46] <DeltaHeavy> jaimef: Sounds like your system is fundimentally borked.
[12:47] <jaimef> there are mnay more good ideas where /bin/dash came from, now if only those were put to use in the distro :P
[12:47] <jaimef> DeltaHeavy: yeah, must be hardware!
[12:47] <Unknown0BC> rigved, cool thats working :D
[12:47] <rigved> Unknown0BC: :)
[12:48] <DeltaHeavy> jaimef: No, not at all
[12:49] <DeltaHeavy> jaimef: Your software. It sounds like you did an upgrade, something went wrong due to the specifics of your system, and Ubuntu is so messed up it can't even boot.
[12:49] <jaimef> reinstalling is fine, as long as it does not take an hour to do so
[12:49] <jaimef> DeltaHeavy: yeah most likely
[12:50] <MagicJ> Is there any way I can stop unity from displaying the panel when I move to the left side of the screen?
[12:50] <zombifier> You mean hiding it?
[12:50] <sary> jaimef: a file system check is a must in your case , if all to the good then perhaps your GPU causing this if the Proprietary is in use .
[12:50] <zombifier> Or making it gone forever?
[12:51] <MagicJ> zombifier: hide would be ok - or just not show - either one
[12:51] <jaimef> ssd's make this much easier
[12:51] <zombifier> Does the Unity bar show permanently?
[12:52] <MagicJ> zombifier: no - I have it set to not be there until... - I have also set the sensitivity to the worst, but it still comes up of course, just less often
[12:52] <jiemar_> are there any erlang programer here
[12:53] <oCean> jiemar_: there is a specific #erlang channel
[12:53] <jiemar_> wow,cool
[12:54] <paga93> ciao a tutti
[12:54] <jaimef> yes you are
[12:55] <angs> I plugged a USB stick on my pc, how can I find it on the terminal?
[12:55] <DoctorD90> Ciao paga93
[12:55] <zamba> my system got interrupted while doing an upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04.. and now everything is fscked up.. when booting the splash shows "Ubuntu 10.04" while lsb_release -a displays 12.04
[12:56] <zombifier> angs: it's in /media
[12:56] <angs> thanks
[12:56] <csilk> hi
[12:56] <jaimef> random power reset test to ensure a good boot
[12:57] <csilk> I get the following error with my eclipse.desktop file that I have pinned to the unity dock: /home/USERNAME/eclipse/eclipse: 5: /home/USERNAME/eclipse/eclipse: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[12:57] <csilk> I cannot see a '(' in the file -_-
[12:57] <csilk> Here's the config: http://askubuntu.com/questions/130998/add-eclipse-to-unity-dock-in-ubuntu-12-04
[12:58] <sary> zamba: cleanup the mess with apt-get .
[12:58] <Guest58728> is there a replacement of cdemu in 11.04?
[12:58] <zombifier> What does it do?
[12:59] <Guest58728> zombifier, mount isos#
[13:00] <Guest58728> or make isos mountable
[13:00] <i7c> i'm on gnome-shell and i want that switching to another workspace affects both displays. can somebody tell me where i can find that setting?
[13:01] <oCean> Guest58728: from the commandline you can mount iso images:   sudo mount -o loop /path/to/blah.iso /mnt
[13:01] <zombifier> Guest58728: The built-in mount command: sudo mount file.iso /mnt/iso -o loop
[13:01] <zombifier> Got beaten :P
[13:02] <zombifier> Or gmountiso for a GUI
[13:02] <sary> i7c: ALT+CTRL up-down arrow keys , or open he Dash you'll see the workspaces list it  on the right .
[13:02] <Guest58728> but if its another kind of iso, that doesnt work
[13:02] <oCean> ?
[13:02] <blisssi> ffs
[13:02] <i7c> sary: hey. yes i know how this works, but gnome only does it on one of my 2 physical monitors, you know
[13:04] <sary> i7c: interesting ..
[13:04] <lkj> join #hackthissite
[13:04] <lkj> god damn
[13:05] <i7c> sary: annoying would be the word.
[13:05] <oCean> csilk: watch your language here
[13:05] <csilk> oCean, I'm sorry is that on the bad words list? Since when is that offensive to anyone?
[13:05] <oCean> !language | csilk
[13:06] <zombifier> csilk: You're not a native speaker?
[13:06] <oCean> csilk: that, swearing is not professional, not polite and definitely not family-friendly.
[13:06] <csilk> oCean, I wasn't aware that what I said was offensive or not family friend;y... I'm English
[13:06] <AleXXXx> hi folks.Need help. I am using kubuntu. I would like to add shortcut ctrl + alt + t to open terminal (as it does in ubuntu). How to do that? I went to Global Keyboard Shortcuts. What shell I do next?
[13:07] <sary> i7c: True , its a bit odd ..
[13:08] <sary> i7c: a simple search came-up with http://gregcor.com/2011/05/07/fix-dual-monitors-in-gnome-3-aka-my-workspaces-are-broken/
[13:09] <i7c> sary: yes, i found that, too, but when i open gconf editor i can't find the subnode "shell" in node "gnome" o.O
[13:10] <sary> i7c: have ou noticed the update command at the end of the post!
[13:10] <i7c> sary: i haven't, silly me :(  thank You for helping me read :D
[13:11] <AleXXXx> hi folks.Need help. I am using kubuntu. I would like to add shortcut ctrl + alt + t to open terminal (as it does in ubuntu). How to do that? I went to Global Keyboard Shortcuts. What shell I do next?
[13:11] <escott> i7c, you might check dconf
[13:11] <sary> AleXXXx: what about the keyboard shortcuts opetion within the termianl app itself.
[13:12] <sary> i7c: that happens to the best of us :)
[13:12] <AleXXXx> I would like to be able to open terminal when I hit ctrl, alt and t
[13:12] <AleXXXx> wherever I am
[13:12] <AleXXXx> as it used to be in ubuntu
[13:13] <dr__willis> check the ccsm shortcut keys and the keyboard shortcuts.
[13:13] <i7c> sary: and it works :) thank you!
[13:13] <dr__willis> ctrl-alt-t does open a terminal here for me...
[13:13] <csilk> http://askubuntu.com/questions/130998/add-eclipse-to-unity-dock-in-ubuntu-12-04
[13:13] <csilk> Anyone able to help with that ^ ?
[13:13] <john00> Hello, guys.
[13:13] <bazhang> csilk, patience
[13:14] <jasonbourne> how to change the boot sequence on startup....need to have the CD/DVD be first in line...where do I look/set this option?? Thanks in advance...
[13:14] <sary> i7c: excellent :) , you're welcome.
[13:14] <op_> Anyone here has experience with ATi x1050 AGP [RV350 ](amd dropped support) and lubuntu 12.04 (guess its same for ubuntu). Its all working so far but there isnt any xorg to "tweak" it for better performance
[13:14] <csilk> bazhang, I've been patient since May 3rd.
[13:14] <john00> @jason: BIOS settings ...
[13:14] <csilk> bazhang, I lost my IRC session so wasn't sure if anyone had answered. Hence asking again
[13:14] <popey> csilk: whats type of file is /home/username/eclipse/eclipse ?
[13:15] <csilk> popey, it's the eclipse executable
[13:15] <dr__willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=eclipse+unity+   shows seeral related questions and their answers csilk
[13:15] <csilk> executable (application/x-executable)
[13:15] <jasonbourne> I guess BIOS still accessible via F1 option on boot-up??
[13:15] <popey> csilk: why run it with "/bin/sh", why not specify it directly
[13:15] <dr__willis> eclipse being a java app = causes some issues.
[13:15] <csilk> popey, I get the same error when I run it directly
[13:15] <john00> @Jason: I get there via pressing DEL over and over again.
[13:16] <jasonbourne> thanks, john00...will try both options...
[13:16] <john00> It just depends on the BIOS manufacturrer.
[13:16] <sary> jasonbourne: depends on you machine make/model .
[13:16] <popey> csilk: what version of eclipse?
[13:16] <warm> Hi, how to refer to stack pointer esp in gdb environment?  ig. print the value resides in where esp points to. thx
[13:16] <csilk> ponpon, latest
[13:16] <john00> Otherwise check the manual of your motherboard.
[13:16] <csilk> * popey latest
[13:17] <jasonbourne> @john00 - is the BIOS info written to a file in Linux?? No manual on hand...
[13:17] <ironhalik> anyone tried sending text messeges, via modem, with gammu?
[13:17] <popey> csilk: i installed 3.7.2-1 from the ubuntu repo and it comes with a desktop file which works fine..
[13:17] <AleXXXx> I figured it out
[13:17] <csilk> popey, the .desktop file in the latest version (not repo) is the same as the .desktop from the repo and doesn't work fine for me
[13:17] <john00> I guess you could get the name of the modell, then try  to get the manual online ...
[13:17] <CaBa> are the ubuntu repos terribly slow at the moment?
[13:18] <john00> That'd be my style. :)
[13:18] <popey> csilk: the one you posted isn't the same as the one from the repo
[13:18] <zombifier> CaBa: if your are slow, try switching to another server closer to use in "Software Sources"
[13:18] <dr__willis> CaBa,  i noticed them being slow this morning.
[13:18] <sary> CaBa: you can try switching to a fast server .
[13:18] <jasonbourne> yeah I could go to HP's website...I've seen it there...
[13:18] <csilk> popey, I switched to using the one from the repo about 20 minutes ago
[13:18] <CaBa> zombifier: is there a non-gui interface for that?
[13:18] <popey> csilk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011244/
[13:18] <CaBa> zombifier: otherwise... is there simply a list of mirrors somewhere?
[13:18] <jasonbourne> problem I'm having is getting BackTrack 5 to boot on my HP laptop...
[13:19] <dr__willis> CaBa,  there used to be some apt-mirror tool that would scan/ping anc use the fastest. but i havent used that in ages.
[13:19] <john00> Does anyone know about Tor configurations?
[13:19] <zombifier> CaBa: Sorry, I have yet to know how to do that
[13:19] <popey> csilk: and for that it doesn't run the eclipse executable, it runs /usr/bin/eclipse which is a shell script
[13:19] <CaBa> dr__willis: thats even outdated in debian
[13:19] <csilk> popey, actually you're right. I cannot use the one from the repo as I didn't get eclipse from the repo due to it being too old
[13:19] <jasonbourne> so I figured maybe setting the CD/DVD drive to boot first might correct the problem...
[13:19] <sary> !backtrack | jasonbourne:
[13:19] <zombifier> !tor | john00
[13:19] <ikonia> jasonbourne: the guys in #backtracklinux can help with that
[13:19] <dr__willis> CaBa,  explains why its not around any more. :)
[13:19] <ikonia> jasonbourne: sorry, #backtrack-linux
[13:19] <sary> Err,
[13:20] <sary> Right ,, as ikonia point it out.
[13:20] <csilk> popey, the repo .desktop assumes eclipse is installed via the package manager. The common way of installing the latest version of eclipse is to just run the exec from the home/username folder. That is what my .desktop is trying to do
[13:20] <jasonbourne> I've tried with them, Ikonia....but I've gotten a few more gray hairs waiting for their reply...
[13:20] <xrfang> hi, while try to fix google-earth font problem, I accidentally removed some qt library files as well as unity2d and ubuntu-desktop etc. I tried to install them back, now everything works fine, except Virtualbox Menu refused to be integrated in to globalmenu, how can I fix it? thanks
[13:20] <ikonia> jasonbourne: they will get there, hang in with them
[13:20] <popey> csilk: sure, I was thinking you could base your .desktop off the one I pastebinned
[13:20] <ikonia> jasonbourne: plus, I'm in the channel and I don't see you asking in that channel in the last 7 days
[13:20] <csilk> popey, I would have to create a shell script in /bin for that to work
[13:21] <jasonbourne> didn't try their channel ikonia...just their website...
[13:21] <jasonbourne> didn't know they had one....
[13:21] <ikonia> jasonbourne: ok, so try their channel as I've just told you
[13:21] <popey> csilk: nah, anywhere in path like ~/bin would be fine
[13:21] <john00> Well, I got it running, but I try to customize it on my wishes. I want the connections expiring at 5  Minutes, but don't have any reference about the right config file.
[13:21] <angs> I need to mount a usb stick, how can I find the umounted device list?
[13:21] <i7c> gnome-shell runs with mutter, right? is there a way to conf mutter's behaviour like window resizing shortcuts etc? i'm looking for something like ccsm for compiz
[13:21] <DeltaHeavy> john00: Look into cron.
[13:22] <jasonbourne> I'm new to using this form of chatting Ikonia...how do I open up their channel? Thanks for your assistance...greatly appreciated...
[13:22] <ikonia> jasonbourne: type "/join #backtrack-linux"
[13:22] <john00> You gotta explain that to me. :) How's cron supposed to help me?
[13:23] <Drecondius> Can somebody walk me through using ndiswrapper from the terminal please.
[13:23] <jasonbourne> thanks, Ikonia...
[13:23] <zombifier> The torproject's website provides a lot of information
[13:23] <Drecondius> the gui is, once again, fail
[13:24] <john00> They just descripe  how to use it as bundle there - I am using it as daemon for my entire traffic.
[13:25] <john00> I found the option in the man page, but I don't know the config.
[13:25] <john00> And the man page does not list any configs ... what a darn.
[13:26] <raven> audacity: great desaster - after a crash the aup file is broken and the recovery only brings back the text track without the main audio track - how to rescue the project??
[13:26] <DeltaHeavy> john00: I'd explain it to you but I'm a little busy right now. Basically it executes commands at specific times. Look up a tutorial. There may be a better way to do what you want to do though still.
[13:27] <dr__willis> angs,  sudo blkid should show all seen devices
[13:27] <angs> thanks
[13:27] <raven> audacity: GREAT disaster - after a crash the aup file is broken and the recovery only brings back the text track without the main audio track - how to rescue the project??
[13:28] <john00> Maybe I put it up the wrong way - I meant I need the session expired. Usually there is a new IP-assignment each 10 minutes, but I need them for 5.
[13:28] <john00> I guess if I'd go your line, I might end up crushing downloads via tor ...
[13:28] <bazhang> raven, dont repeat so quickly
[13:29] <DeltaHeavy> john00: You're going to need to edit your DHCP configuration. Google should help you greatly if you search for "ubuntu expiration DHCP"
[13:29] <Saiki> what's the firewall for ubuntu and how do I perminantly disable it?
[13:29] <bazhang> !ufw | Saiki
[13:30] <Saiki> what's the firewall for ubuntu and how do I perminantly disable it?  (server version)
[13:30] <dr__willis> Saiki,  its not enabled by default
[13:30] <dr__willis> !firewall | Saiki
[13:30] <ikonia> Saiki: at least give people chance to respond
[13:30] <MartyB74> Hi. Anybody knows how to show an xterm window in lightdm?
[13:30] <DeltaHeavy> Does ufw use netfilter or is it a completely different thing compared to iptables?
[13:30] <ikonia> MartyB74: type xterm
[13:30] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: its iptables
[13:30] <Saiki> ikonia: I clerified that I was running server, not desktop
[13:31] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: Thanks
[13:31] <raven> audacity: GREAT disaster - after a crash the aup file is broken and the recovery only brings back the text track without the main audio track - how to rescue the project??
[13:31] <MartyB74> not possible. "DISPLAY" variable is not set
[13:31] <dr__willis> server or desktop - the firewall is the same
[13:31] <bazhang> Saiki, read the links given above
[13:31] <john00> DeltaHeavy: Sorry, that sounds to odd. ... See, when I use tor, there will be a 10 minute session with the Ip of the exit node. I need to changed this very exit node.
[13:31] <Saiki> I did, actually
[13:31] <dr__willis> MartyB74,  you would have to bypass some of the various X seciruty things. why do you want a xterm on the lightdm screen?
[13:31] <MartyB74> ikonia: Not possible. DISPLAY variable is not set and I don't know the correct value for it
[13:32] <ikonia> MartyB74: are you root by any chance ?
[13:32] <dr__willis> MartyB74,  display of localhost:0.0  is normal
[13:32] <john00> I wouldn't know how MY DHCP might help there?
[13:32] <DeltaHeavy> john00: Oh this is with TOR. Sorry. If it's a TOR specific thing try asking in #tor
[13:33] <john00> DeltaHeavy: Thanks for the advice.
[13:33] <MartyB74> dr__willis: I just want to play a video when unity-greeter shows up. I just want to test if this principally works
[13:33] <ikonia> play a video when the greeter comes ?
[13:33] <dr__willis> MartyB74, Lightdm might have some config files to play specific apps when it launches.
[13:33] <ikonia> what
[13:33] <ikonia> MartyB74: you've not logged in at that point, so there will be no environment setup
[13:34] <raven> audacity: GREAT disaster - after a crash the aup file is broken and the recovery only brings back the text track without the main audio track - how to rescue the project??
[13:34] <dr__willis> ive had gdm launch xearth or other silly things int eh past. but it was gdm doing the launching.
[13:34] <MartyB74> I haven't found any config option for starting background programs
[13:34] <MartyB74> in lightdm
[13:34] <jrib> !repeat | raven
[13:34] <zykotick9> dr__willis: seeing as lightdm is the login screen, an xterm would probably need to be lauched as root at that point.  doesn't seem a good idea to me.  MartyB74
[13:34] <i7c> is it possible to use gnome-panel with compiz?
[13:35] <dr__willis> zykotick9,  actually gdm had a gdm user, not sure about lightdm.  its possible there may be a lightdm user.. but launching a xterm is a silly thing from a security point of view. :)
[13:36] <dr__willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/74189/run-a-startup-script-with-lightdm
[13:36] <wawowe> MartyB74: there will be scripts or something for each desktop choice somewhere that lightdm uses. probably in /etc. add mplayer -fs video.avi  or something like that to the beginning of one of them
[13:36] <MartyB74> dr__willis, xterm is not the program I really want to start in the end, instead mplayer. But xterm would be a good start for trying
[13:36] <dr__willis> MartyB74,  see the askubuntu url i posted
[13:37] <burek> is this official ubuntu support channel?
[13:37] <ikonia> it is
[13:37] <dr__willis> burek,  topic says it is. ;)
[13:37] <burek> where can I report misleading behavior of ubuntu maintainer(s)
[13:37] <raven> audacity: GREAT disaster - after a crash the aup file is broken and the recovery only brings back the text track without the main audio track - how to rescue the project??
[13:37] <dr__willis> !bug | burek
[13:37] <burek> bug?
[13:37] <jrib> burek: what exactly are you referring to?
[13:37] <burek> seriously? :)
[13:37] <DeltaHeavy> raven: Your question isn't even about Ubuntu. We've seen your question. Stop.
[13:38] <burek> well, mainainer(s) of a ffmpeg's fork, named libav/avconv (whatever), decided to put a message like this in his build of ffmpeg
[13:38] <burek> for ubuntu
[13:38] <burek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011264/
[13:38] <burek> "This program is not developed anymore and is only provided for compatibility. Use avconv instead (see Changelog for the list of incompatible changes)."
[13:38] <Saiki> any mysql folks in here able to tell me what this error means?: 2003  - Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.111.132' (10061)
[13:39] <burek> ffmpeg is fairly alive and active
[13:39] <ikonia> Saiki: it can't connect to the mysql server running on that IP
[13:39] <raven> audacity: GREAT disaster - after a crash the aup file is broken and the recovery only brings back the text track without the main audio track - how to rescue the project??
[13:39] <dr__willis> burek,  ive noticed that msg. thought it was being called by the winff app.
[13:39] <Saiki> ikonia: obviously.. I meant more what could cause it
[13:39] <burek> and that kind of putting misleading messages, from the point of a maintainer is really not helping anyone
[13:39] <burek> dr__willis, take a better look
[13:39] <burek> this is cmd line ffmpeg
[13:39] <ikonia> Saiki: the server not running, bad user/name password, bad permissions to that user, you'll need to prod around to get more info
[13:40] <burek> the maintainer(s) purposefully put that message in the source code of ffmpeg, to display such a message
[13:40] <dr__willis> burek,  id say check the forums,  may be a thread on the issue. this channel really isent the paace for it.
[13:40] <burek> which is hardly to say rude
[13:40] <popey> burek: file a bug
[13:40] <Saiki> ikonia: mysql connects on localhost with password
[13:40] <burek> a bug?
[13:40] <great4free> http://www.reddit.com/r/nsfwhot/comments/u7tbd/german_blondebig_boobs_girl_likes_quickie_sex_on/   GERMAN GIRLS GONE WILD  AND FUCKED IN TRAIN BY TRAVELER  HOT AMATEUR PORN MOVIE
[13:40] <burek> seriously? :D
[13:40] <ikonia> Saiki: yes, localhost is not that IP address
[13:40] <dr__willis> bug  "missleading message in ffmpeg'
[13:40] <popey> burek: if you want to talk to the developer, yes
[13:41] <popey> burek: and you believe it's misleading or wrong. talking to the air in here won't fix it
[13:41] <burek> this is really dissapointing.. but ok.. ill do as suggested
[13:41] <jrib> burek: seems to me like ffmpeg is now developed as libav?
[13:41] <burek> jrib, libav is a fork
[13:41] <dr__willis> this is support... not package development. so yes a bug rport would be correct
[13:41] <Saiki> ikonia: I set to allow any ip to connect. root@'%'
[13:41] <burek> join ffmpeg channel (here) and see for yourself
[13:41] <ikonia> Saiki: ok ? and ?
[13:41] <burek> it still has twice more users
[13:41] <popey> burek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libav/+filebug
[13:41] <burek> ok ok
[13:41] <burek> im there already
[13:42] <burek> thx :)
[13:42] <jrib> burek: what makes you think that message comes from the maintainer?
[13:42] <popey> np ☺
[13:42] <burek> jrib, the original source code doesn't have that message
[13:42] <Saiki> it knows it wants a parrword, but it doesn't allow it to connect when given one
[13:42] <burek> try the latest git from ffmpeg.org
[13:42] <Chaosratt> Anyone familiar with IPv6? Trying to run a server and a bit confused about prefix anouncemnt vs static assignmnet
[13:42] <ikonia> Saiki: right, so you need to check the step's I've suggested
[13:42] <jrib> burek: I don't see a patch with it
[13:43] <dr__willis> http://lwn.net/Articles/433347/  some info on the libav ffmpeg stuff
[13:43] <burek> jrib, I'm not sure I see what are you suggesting?
[13:43] <jrib> burek: I'm guessing that ubuntu/debian have moved on to libav and libav provides ffmpeg for compatibility
[13:44] <wawowe> MartyB74: evidently it uses /usr/share/xsessions/
[13:44] <popey> jrib: thats pretty much exactly it.
[13:44] <burek> jrib, whatever happened, they changed the source code of ffmpeg to put the misleading message there
[13:44] <popey> jrib: burek the message means "the ffmpeg binary _in_ _this_ _package_ is unmaintained" not "ffmpeg in general is dead"
[13:44] <burek> that's just lame
[13:45] <jrib> burek: the issue is who "they" is
[13:45] <burek> I mean, they are saying a lie
[13:45] <burek> no matter what an excuse is
[13:45] <burek> and that kind of people shouldn't belong to open source community
[13:45] <ikonia> this is getting old
[13:46] <jrib> burek: do you understand that the ffmpeg you installed in ubuntu is actually the libav fork?
[13:46] <dr__willis> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-May/000891.html  some good info.
[13:47] <Saiki> ikonia: http://nsa30.casimages.com/img/2012/05/28/120528035844242745.png  <anything wrong there you can see? (Iblocked out password, didn't issue it like that though)
[13:47] <ikonia> Saiki: did you flush the privileges after ?
[13:47] <popey> burek: http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-cvslog/2012-January/046233.html
[13:47] <Saiki> hm.. that must be what I missed lol what's the command for that?
[13:48] <ikonia> Saiki: flush privileges
[13:48] <popey> burek: http://lists.libav.org/pipermail/libav-devel/2011-August/009273.html specific patch
[13:48] <ikonia> Saiki: you may want to hang out in #mysql
[13:48] <Saiki> ikonia: I'm really new to all this, it's local stuff and I'm just learning lol
[13:49] <syncron> I have a potential security issue with Ubuntu, weirdest thing, may be a false alarm - last niht I was using bit torrent and I got a lot of "spoof ip" messages on my router, i think this could be explained by peer guardian users , I also got ack scans from facebook IPs , anyway, around the same time I was in chrome and i saw a message saying USERNAME and on another line YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND PROMPT, i google that and could not find a leg
[13:49] <Saiki> ikonia: still can't connect :@
[13:49] <ikonia> Saiki: so you need to look at what I've told you
[13:49] <ikonia> Saiki: and also use #mysql
[13:49] <zamba> i have an vpn connection configured in the gnome network manager.. how can i start that from the CLI?
[13:49] <syncron> is that a program you guys know about in Ubuntu, "your wish is my command prompt?"
[13:50] <zamba> the problem is that i don't have physical X access to the machine
[13:50] <zombifier> syncron, you receive a message right in your browser?
[13:50] <syncron> zombifier, it seemed as if it was a right click option
[13:50] <syncron> i was thinking , could it be possible iws 'zombie" ack scanned via a facebook upload prompt
[13:51] <syncron> and then hacked?
[13:51] <wawowe> syncron: pretty sure i remember chromium making jokes
[13:51] <syncron> im using nat
[13:51] <syncron> i def have chromium and chrome installed
[13:51] <syncron> and i sort of recall that too but could not find the source
[13:51] <Saiki> ikonia: it's the same command that worked in fedora (fedora has.. other issues)
[13:51] <ikonia> Saiki: I'm not doubting that
[13:51] <burek> popey, jrib: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1005536
[13:51] <burek> :)
[13:52] <syncron> wawowe - anyway to find out if this joke is common or what?
[13:52] <burek> ok, I now it's libav, but it's simply saying a lie
[13:52] <burek> and that's what's wrong
[13:52] <syncron> also, the username it displayed was not the one I am logged in with
[13:52] <popey> burek: you know libav added that, not us?
[13:52] <syncron> but a handle i use elsewhere
[13:52] <syncron> so like, that was confusing
[13:52] <wawowe> syncron: nothing to worry about
[13:52] <burek> popey, in that case you should freeze libav from ubuntu distribution
[13:52] <syncron> i should have grabbed a screenshot at the time
[13:53] <burek> until they resolve their behavior
[13:53] <syncron> wawowe - how can you be sure?
[13:53] <chrometiger> I have a Intel Moble 4 series vid card in my laptop  anyone know where I can get drivers for it  so that I can get google earth working ?
[13:53] <wawowe> syncron: if something was actually wrong you wouldn't suspect anything
[13:53] <ikonia> burek: why don't you not use ubuntu until you are happy with the package contents ?
[13:53] <burek> ikonia, that's not a solution :) it's a workaround :)
[13:53] <ikonia> burek: or better still talk to the people who put the message in rather than just ranting over and over in this channel
[13:53] <syncron> well that depends wawowe, sometimes people get cocky and/or bored
[13:53] <ikonia> burek: do it then, I'm getting tired of you ranting the same thing over and over
[13:54] <syncron> and send messages to the user, to mess with them
[13:54] <burek> ikonia, i'm not ranting for nothing
[13:54] <burek> ubuntu did let them get away with that
[13:54] <jrib> burek: that message is true from the libav point of view.  ffmpeg isn't even in their tree anymore as popey pointed out
[13:54] <burek> so you too deserver criticism
[13:54] <burek> -r
[13:54] <popey> burek: are you going to file a bug against debian too?
[13:54] <Leif_Bork> Hellu, I want to set umask to external drives that are automatically mounted. How should I do that?
[13:54] <wawowe> syncron: when your computer starts rebooting everytime you hit the spacebar, then somebody is messing with you
[13:55] <WoosterB2> Hi, I am getting "Missing operating system" on a mac pro 2008.  The system worked perfectly yesterday and has been rebooted many times, and I had not installed updates prior to rebooting.  The system only has Linux on it, and no reefit.
[13:55] <syncron> hhaha , wawowe - what? LOL
[13:55] <syncron> you can be messed with in many ways lol
[13:55] <WoosterB2> Just this morning it greeted me with "Missing operating system," out of the blue... completely confused
[13:55] <syncron> anyway, i have yet to find any way to repeat that message
[13:55] <burek> why are you attacking me, for reporting this kind of behavior, rather then investigating why in the first place such thing could have happened?
[13:55] <syncron> or find out its origin
[13:56] <popey> burek: i investigated it and gave you the name of the person who made the commit ☹
[13:56] <syncron> if anybody here can relate, or expand on this potential "chrome joke"
[13:56] <jrib> burek: no one is attacking you.  We're just trying to make you understand where that message comes from
[13:56] <escott> chrometiger, the drivers for intel are included in the standard install
[13:56] <syncron> i am al ears
[13:56] <popey> burek: you could talk to them rather than rant at us
[13:56] <burek> ok, but I've read libav statements and I've seen what kind of folks are behind it, and I know in advance they won't change the message
[13:56] <jrib> burek: in libav, ffmpeg no longer exists
[13:56] <burek> I'm asking why did ubuntu take side with people who lie to their users
[13:56] <ikonia> burek: this is getting old now
[13:57] <ikonia> burek: if you don't like the package a.) don't install it b.) don't use distros that supply it
[13:57] <lovre> hi all. iirc, thread priority goes from 1 to 99, right?
[13:57] <syncron> "your wish is my command prompt"
[13:57] <burek> nice
[13:57] <jrib> burek: I guess you should read the thread on the mailing list that was linked earlier and discuss it there
[13:57] <syncron> not many hits on google atall
[13:57] <burek> well, ok, couldn't expect more I guess..
[13:57] <burek> thanks for your time anyway..
[13:57] <popey> burek: ask Reinhard Tartler, he maintains it for Ubuntu
[13:57] <burek> o/
[13:57] <jrib> but yes, this isn't a support issue really; not really the right place here burek
[13:57] <popey> bah
[13:57] <burek> ok
[13:57] <burek> I will, thanks
[13:58] <chrometiger> escott: ubuntu isn't letting me use 3d accelleration at all   trying to update drivers,   btw google earth works find on my windows partition     I cant even use gnome shell because of my drivers
[13:58] <syncron> chrometiger - know anything about chrome making joke messages to the user?
[13:58] <escott> chrometiger, what version of ubuntu, and what cpu is it
[13:58] <syncron> "your wish is my comand prompt?"
[13:58] <ikonia> syncron: why do you keep saying that
[13:58] <syncron> i had what looked like a right clikc menu with two options
[13:58] <ikonia> syncron: what do you actually want ?
[13:58] <syncron> my username and "your wish is my command prompt"
[13:58] <ikonia> syncron: where ?
[13:59] <syncron> to understand what caused the prompt
[13:59] <ikonia> syncron: prompt where ?
[13:59] <syncron> in my broswer, after some strange logs on my router
[13:59] <syncron> like it happened on the browser, overlapping the page and the addressbar
[13:59] <ikonia> syncron: you've probably installed something in your browser, an extension or something
[13:59] <chrometiger> escott: ubuntu 11.10    im using a dell vostro laptop  with a Intel mobile 4 series chipset vid card
[13:59] <syncron> ikonia, it seems impossible
[13:59] <syncron> also it had a username i do not use on this laptop
[14:00] <ikonia> syncron: what? a pluging that changes your default page to "your wish is my command" - seems very possible
[14:00] <syncron> no not default page
[14:00] <ikonia> syncron: what then ?
[14:00] <syncron> it was a pop up menu
[14:00] <chrometiger> escott: Intel® Celeron(R) CPU 925 @ 2.30GHz
[14:00] <syncron> like when you right click the desktop
[14:00] <syncron> i wish i took a screenshot
[14:00] <ikonia> syncron: tell you what, take a screen shot
[14:00] <ikonia> syncron: take a screen shot
[14:00] <syncron> cannot
[14:00] <ikonia> syncron: why not ?
[14:00] <syncron> it hapened only once
[14:00] <syncron> last night
[14:00] <ikonia> syncron: then don't worry about it
[14:00] <FloodBot1> syncron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:00] <syncron> during attacks on my router
[14:00] <ikonia> syncron: if it happens again, take a screen shot
[14:01] <syncron> ack scans, smurfs, and ip spoof attacs
[14:01] <ikonia> syncron: can't help you with your routers issues
[14:01] <Drecondius> Does anyone in here use ndiswrapper?
[14:01] <syncron> ikonia, the router is not the isse, I am simply trying to see if anybody has ever see anything like this
[14:01] <syncron> before
[14:01] <ikonia> syncron: no
[14:01] <ikonia> syncron: but it is hard to say without a screen shot
[14:02] <syncron> ikonia, if it happened to you ,what would you do?
[14:02] <ikonia> syncron: so next time it happens, take a screen shot and we can try to help
[14:02] <syncron> yea, i def will
[14:02] <ikonia> syncron: I'd totally format my machine and do a clean install
[14:02] <syncron> i may have hit a key combo by accident
[14:02] <syncron> seriously? I can do that if you think I should.
[14:02] <ikonia> syncron: you asked what I would do, that's what I would do
[14:02]  * syncron nods
[14:03] <wawowe> syncron: those aren't attacks on your router
[14:03] <susundberg> i agree with ikonia: in case of possible break in, only good way to get it clean is to do fresh install ..
[14:03] <syncron> they seem like false positives wawowe
[14:03] <syncron> i was using bit torrent at the time
[14:03] <syncron> so this could all just be a case of mistaken identity
[14:04] <ikonia> syncron: its up to you what you do then
[14:04] <syncron> and my curiosity lies in what made that error
[14:04] <syncron> imma reinstall the OS
[14:04] <syncron> because, why not?
[14:04] <syncron> no big deal
[14:05] <syncron> but i wonder how easy it is to hack ubuntu default install behind NAT
[14:05] <Drecondius> Does anybody in here use ndiswrapper?
[14:05] <Cnythnk> ?
[14:05] <mneptok> !anyone
[14:06] <Drecondius> If ya don't use it don't bug the bot. that's annoying to no end.
[14:06] <mneptok> Drecondius: just ask thew question you want to ask, please.
[14:07] <xapel> In Software Sources Dialog, under Updates tab, are any of the 4 boxes ticked by default on a standard installation?
[14:07] <Drecondius> the question is about driver installation and why my wireless device is showing up but not broadcasting
[14:07] <escott> chrometiger, you could check what glxinfo says but it should be covered by the mesa drivers
[14:07] <zombifier> xapel: Usually the Proposed and Backports are not ticked by default
[14:08] <chrometiger> escott:  says info missing
[14:08] <mneptok> Drecondius: what device? how is it attached? what chipset? what device drivers are you using, and from where? how did you install them? can you see SSIDs? etc etc etc.
[14:09] <escott> chrometiger, why dont you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:10] <Drecondius> Belkin f9l1101v1, broadcom, windows drivers via ndiswrapper, Not broadcasting so No ssid
[14:10] <mneptok> Drecondius: Broadcom what? they make a lot of chipsets.
[14:10] <Drecondius> dunno what broadcom chipset lemme check
[14:10] <chrometiger> thats long to post here
[14:11] <bazhang> chrometiger, pastebin it
[14:11] <mneptok> Drecondius: BCM4323
[14:11] <bazhang> !paste | chrometiger
[14:11] <mneptok> Drecondius: that does not require ndiswrapper.
[14:11] <Drecondius> I beg to differ
[14:12] <mneptok> Drecondius: BCM43xx drivers for Linux will work with that.
[14:12] <Drecondius> the free drivers don't work
[14:12] <mobhero> hi, is there any ubuntu certification????
[14:13] <jpds> mobhero: As in, training or systems?
[14:13] <mneptok> Drecondius: have you booted the machine with the dongle attached so that the kernel knows the device is there when it's choosing what modules to load?
[14:13] <chrometiger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011328/
[14:13] <Drecondius> On several occasions
[14:14] <lizzin> i select xmonad from the login screen, it executes, but the resolution is smaller than i'd like it to be. what should i look into if i want to adjust/increase this?
[14:14] <mneptok> Drecondius: and what does "lsmod | grep bcm" say when you do?
[14:14] <Drecondius> On full hardware boot, virtual machine boot,
[14:14] <Drecondius> prob nothing as i've blacklisted the included drivers
[14:15] <Drecondius> nada
[14:15] <mneptok> Drecondius: grep b43
[14:15] <mobhero> jpds - ubuntu certification like Redhat Centertification. ??
[14:15] <Drecondius> waiting
[14:15] <wawowe> lizzin: text is too small?
[14:16] <saul> Hi, need some advice ;)
[14:16] <Drecondius> this wireless device has given me a headache with ubuntu since 8.10
[14:16] <mneptok> Drecondius: so ... uhhh ... replace it? it's a US$15 dongle.
[14:16] <Drecondius> not where i'm from
[14:16] <zamba> is it possible to "reset" my usb?
[14:17] <jpds> mobhero: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Certified_Professional
[14:17] <zamba> the problem is that after connecting a malfunctioning usb drive to my usb and then trying an external hard drive that i know works, nothing works
[14:17] <escott> chrometiger, i wonder if you have some nvidia driver installed. line 306 [    23.675] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[14:17] <zamba> seems like i have to reboot to make the system read usb stuff again
[14:17] <lizzin> wawowe: it's not using the entire screen...there's excess space on each side that i am unable to use. i figure i need to increase the resolution to 1920x1200 to use all of it
[14:17] <Drecondius> grep sure is taking a while
[14:17] <mneptok> Drecondius: i'm sure things are not that much more expensive in GA/FL
[14:18] <DeltaHeavy> zamba: Try restarting the service that automounts things.
[14:18] <wawowe> lizzin: xrandr -s 1920x1080
[14:19] <DeltaHeavy> zamba: If the devices show up in /dev/ and can be mounted with mount, the problem probably isn't too hard to fix.
[14:19] <saul> how to uninstall ubuntu studio?
[14:19] <lizzin> wawowe: why 1080 and not 1200?
[14:19] <zamba> DeltaHeavy: what's that service called?
[14:19] <Drecondius> It functions fine in windows, even worked on my hackintosh
[14:19] <Drecondius> I refuse to give up on it here
[14:19] <chrometiger> escott: you know ,  I have this os  installed on a external hd,  when i first installed it I had it connected to my main pc "which has a nvidia card"  but now I plug it to my laptop and boot which has the intel mobile 4 card    thats prob my problem.
[14:19] <DeltaHeavy> zamba: Not sure, Google it.
[14:19] <wawowe> lizzin: type "xrandr" by itself to see a list of available resolutions
[14:19] <zombifier> saul: It will be hard, since ubuntu-studio is actually a collection of a lot packages
[14:19] <chrometiger> escott:  and I dont know how to change it
[14:19] <wawowe> lizzin: pick the one you want
[14:20] <lizzin> wawowe: oh wow
[14:20] <zamba> DeltaHeavy: wow, that's helpful :)
[14:20] <escott> chrometiger, use dpkg -l "*nvidia*" to identify the nvidia pacakges you have installed and then apt-get remove them
[14:20] <lizzin> wawowe: that worked perfectly, thanks
[14:20] <Drecondius> ok i did "grep b43" and it's still sitting on a flashing prompt
[14:20] <zamba> DeltaHeavy: what do you suggest i google? "the service that automounts things"?
[14:20] <RBV> Drecondius: you have to tell it the file to grep, or pipe something to it
[14:20] <RBV> It's just grep'ing stdin
[14:21] <DeltaHeavy> zamba: If you're going to be snide with me feel free to help yourself.
[14:21] <RBV> Drecondius: type 'b43' and hit enter, it will be a match. Hit ctrl-D and you'll go back to the shell
[14:21] <bazhang> DeltaHeavy, never tell some one to google it
[14:22] <mneptok> Drecondius: sudo lsmod | grep b43
[14:22] <bazhang> !google | DeltaHeavy
[14:22] <Drecondius> still does nothing
[14:23] <DeltaHeavy> If I don't know something, and I don't have time to GOogle it, I'm going to tell them to Google it. That rule is bad.
[14:23] <mneptok> Drecondius: then the linux b43 drivers are not loading, probably becuae you blacklisted them
[14:23] <zamba> DeltaHeavy: but seriously.. that was virtually no help at all
[14:23] <DeltaHeavy> Otherwise I simply don't offer the bit of info I know
[14:23] <mneptok> DeltaHeavy: the rule is the rule. please follow it.
[14:23] <bazhang> DeltaHeavy, then dont answer at all. dont say that google it again here.
[14:23] <DeltaHeavy> zamba: I'm telling you where to look. I'm telling you what I know. What I don't know you're left to yourself
[14:23] <chrometiger> escott: thanks  for the help
[14:23] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: google your bmc problem
[14:23] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: that's the same as what you've just told someone
[14:24] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: don't ask for help - just google it
[14:24] <mneptok> ikonia: DeltaHeavy vs. Drecondius
[14:24] <aditx> hello
[14:24] <ikonia> noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[14:24] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: That's not what I"m doing. I'm saying "I'm pretty sure the problem might rely on the service that does 'x'".
[14:24] <ikonia> sorry
[14:24] <ikonia> I thought it was the same guy
[14:24] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: how are you sure of that ? you've done no debugging
[14:24] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: "What service is that?" "Idk, try Googling it"
[14:24] <zombifier> saul: you can follow this procedure to remove Ubuntu safely: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=508927
[14:24] <kexolino> -close
[14:25] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: what basis is it you think the service is stopped ?
[14:25] <ikonia> Drecondius: my apologies to you
[14:25] <saul> and after this, i can load my windows like use to ?
[14:26] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: I said if the devices just aren't being mounted, check in /dev/, and if they can be mounted with the 'mount' command. If I can't offer help like that without backing everything up 100% the rules of this channel greatly inhibit the ability for anybody to help anybody, and are bad as a fact.
[14:26] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: pretty sure it's acceptable to work the problem through
[14:26] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: Then why am I getting flack?
[14:26] <mneptok> DeltaHeavy: "i am not sure," is far easier to type than "i am not sure, go Google it."
[14:26] <iceroot_> DeltaHeavy: google is not supported as an answer here, very easy rule i think
[14:27] <DeltaHeavy> ikinia: All I said is "I don't know what that service is, try Googling it".
[14:27] <iceroot_> DeltaHeavy: no need to discuss that
[14:27] <zombifier> Yes saul
[14:27] <saul> thing is, i can't boot windows ...
[14:27] <DeltaHeavy> iceroot_: Discuss what?
[14:27] <saul> only ubuntu studio works...
[14:27] <zombifier> You can't boot Windows at the bootloader?
[14:28] <saul> yep
[14:28] <DeltaHeavy> I don't understand the mentaility where sayign "I'm not sure, try Google" deserves snide remarks. If that's the case I don't want anything to do with such a backwards, unhelpful, garbage channel.
[14:28] <mneptok> saul: do you have a Windows installation disc?
[14:28] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: it's my fault, I blew it out of proportion
[14:29] <saul> i got..
[14:29] <mneptok> DeltaHeavy: name-calling and other puerile debate tactics will not sway opinion.
[14:29] <mneptok> saul: is that a "yes?"
[14:29] <saul> but i dont wanna override... or something...
[14:29] <saul> yes
[14:29] <saul> ok ... just be clear...
[14:29] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: samba is the main offender here. I could probalby fix his problem but w/e, he's not getting any more help off me with his disrespectful attitude.
[14:29] <zombifier> The Windows CD should have an option of repairing your system, which will not remove any files, and recover MBR
[14:30] <mneptok> saul: if you boot off the Windows install disc, you should be able to replace the MBR with the Win bootloader. ask for more info in ##windows
[14:30] <saul> i wanted use ubuntu and windows..
[14:30] <DeltaHeavy> mneptok: I'm not name-calling. ikonia said he was blowing things out of propotion because any channel that has those ideals has those attributes I listed.
[14:30] <bibi23> hi, I want to launch a bash command when linux boot up, I've found update-rc.d, but it is for handling services I guess? Do I need to create a service even for a simple command of one line? thx
[14:30] <saul> but after instaled ubuntu, i cant boot windows..
[14:30] <cell0> Anyone know how to attach an id when calling $this->widget('zii.widgets.grid.CGridView',... ?
[14:30] <mneptok> DeltaHeavy: "backwards, unhelpful, garbage channel."  <--- name-calling
[14:31] <cell0> whoops wrong room
[14:31] <DeltaHeavy> mneptok: Attributes of a channel with the ideals I listed.
[14:31] <mobhero> jpds - what is the cost/price to write this certification.
[14:31] <Fuchs> bibi23: hi, you can use /etc/rc.local  for that, usually
[14:31] <Fuchs> bibi23: or maybe your local users autostart, depending on what the script should do, and with what permissions. Could you give us more details?
[14:31] <raven> any way to recover a previous version of a file out of the ext4 file system?
[14:31] <mneptok> DeltaHeavy: it's puerile.
[14:31] <jpds> !undelete | raven
[14:31] <zombifier> bibi23: You can put it at the end of .profile if you want it to execute everytime your user login
[14:31] <saul> why after ubuntu installation i cant boot windows?
[14:31] <jrib> raven: no, only from your backups
[14:31] <DeltaHeavy> mneptok: Nope, it's fact. I was tryign to proove a point.
[14:32] <LjL> how about we go back to support now?
[14:32] <Sidewinder> Movin' on..
[14:33] <jpds> mobhero: See: http://lpi.org/
[14:33] <bibi23> Fuchs: it's php script wich is a daemon
[14:34] <bibi23> Fuchs: so I can just add the command to launch the script on that rc.locale file and that's it?
[14:34] <Fuchs> bibi23: technically yes, but note that this will be executed as root, which is usually not very secure for a deamon
[14:34] <Fuchs> bibi23: maybe creating a clean service out of it, running as it's own user, is a better idea. Not knowing what that deamon does.
[14:35] <Sidewinder> saul, Are you sure you did not, accidentally, install "to the entire disk? Therefore, over-writting your windows system.
[14:36] <Anger_On> y
[14:36] <DeltaHeavy> saul: What's the output of 'fdisk -l'. Put it in a pastebin.
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> saul's gone
[14:37] <Sidewinder> Hmm
[14:37] <bibi23> Fuchs: ok thanks, well currently I don't have any other user than root, just www-data I think it's apache
[14:37]  * Sidewinder Writing to himself, again. :(
[14:37] <Fuchs> bibi23: that sounds horrible. Is that a public reachable server? If so, I'd recommend to change that :)
[14:38] <vlt> Hello. I have a video file and want to to create a DVD (image) that should play in every standard DVD player. Any hints what to use? (command line preferred)
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> vlt  devede is a devil-do-all for dvds
[14:39] <Fuchs> bibi23: maybe have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity.  And I'd write a real upstart/sys-v init service for your deamon, dropping priviledges to a local user, as www-data does for your httpd
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> vlt  mind: devede is not command line
[14:40] <Fuchs> bibi23: if the server is not public reachable and that service is not available from the outside, having it in rc.local doesn't teach you the good way of doing things, but it will work
[14:40] <Sidewinder> MonkeyDust, How 'bout ffmpeg?
[14:40] <osd> s
[14:40] <osd> quit
[14:42] <bibi23> Fuchs: yes it's bad I should take a look at how to secure it a minimum, but don't really know linux so well, the first thing I was planning to do was to change root to another name, to avoid people trying to connect through ssh
[14:42] <lizzin> wawowe: still around
[14:42] <lizzin> ?
[14:42] <Fuchs> bibi23: please don't allow root login via ssh, put ssh on a non-standard port and use a (password protected) certificate instead of a password
[14:42] <Cnythnk> bibi23 u can disable root login
[14:42] <bibi23> Fuchs: thx for the link ;) I'l take a look
[14:42] <lizzin> wawowe: so xrandr works after the fact. but what shold i look into if i always what it to start with 1920x1200?
[14:43] <Fuchs> bibi23: while I do know that this might be complicated for a fresh user, it is needed. Else the chances are that your server will be taken over and be used as a spam sender or worse. So I'd recommend you read up the basics as soon as possible and secure it to a minimum, before adding new services :)
[14:43] <user> can anyone tell me how I can grant permissions to a user through th terminal please?
[14:43] <angs> how can I see what kernel am I running?
[14:43] <lizzin> user: permissions for what?
[14:44] <Fuchs> user: permissions on? A file? if so: chmod for the permissions, chown for ownership
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> angs  uname -r
[14:44] <lizzin> angs: uname -a
[14:44] <user> uhm
[14:44] <Drecondius> Ok so how do i remove something from the blacklist
[14:44] <angs> thanks
[14:44] <Drecondius> just comment it out?
[14:44] <user> basically what I want is the user to have the same permissions as root
[14:44] <DeltaHeavy> user: With a combination of chmod, umask, and adding/removing the user from groups. 'chown' would also be good to know.
[14:44] <user> thats it, chown
[14:44] <user> could remember the command
[14:44] <user> couldn't
[14:45] <DeltaHeavy> user: chown isn't going to do that. If you want to do that add a new user in /etc/passwd with a UID of '0'.
[14:45] <vinothrenga> hoooooooooooo
[14:45] <Saiki> yser: which permissions?
[14:45] <Saiki> user: which permissions?
[14:45] <DBMedia> hi all, i need some stats about the usage (i/o requests per second, disk space usage, such stuff) about my ubuntu box. Any hint on what program(s) i can use to extract such datas ?
[14:46] <DeltaHeavy> user: Although I must say I don't reccomend this. Whatever you're doing there's definitly a better way to do it.
[14:46] <angs> thanks
[14:46] <bibi23> Fuchs: yes I'll document myself on it, but wouldn't it make the server more complicated to use? for example I've had an issue with apache and write access, so I've added www-data to root group, I know it's not so clean but when you have plenty of user you need to monitor their rights etc it's not so easy when you're just starting
[14:48] <Fuchs> bibi23: on a server you have to shift your focus from easy to secure a bit.   Handing out permissions is just giving people another good attack vector
[14:48] <Fuchs> bibi23: software has bugs, software has security holes. If you give a service more permission than it needs, people can gain more permissions by abusing security holes of that service. So pleae don't. There are already plenty of taken over servers that send out spam. Don't add yours to that list.
[14:49] <mneptok> bibi23: your Apache user now has the ability to run as root. any insecurity in any part of the LAMP stack trabslates into a security issue for the entire OS.
[14:49] <user> "Sorry, user oneadmin is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/apt-get install opennebula-node' as root on ubuntu.(null)."
[14:49] <user> how can I fix this
[14:50] <user> ?
[14:50] <Saiki> ikonia:  ub: http://nsa30.casimages.com/img/2012/05/28/120528035844242745.png   fd: http://nsa30.casimages.com/img/2012/05/28/120528044930221189.png   (I love when things work differently on different flavors.. lol)
[14:50] <DeltaHeavy> user: Did you read my previous responses to you? I have one or two up there you didn't respond to if you missed them.
[14:50] <user> I think I missed them
[14:50] <cdcmortagne> bonjour
[14:50] <user> accidentally closed the browser
[14:50] <DeltaHeavy> user: You have to configure your sudoers file to allow you to do something like that.
[14:51] <DeltaHeavy> user: chown isn't going to do that. If you want to do that add a new user in /etc/passwd with a UID of '0'.
[14:51] <DeltaHeavy> user: Although I must say I don't reccomend this. Whatever you're doing there's definitly a better way to do it.
[14:51] <user> this is just temporary, theres no harm that can be done
[14:51] <Saiki> cdcmortagne: Frances? #ubuntu-fr
[14:52] <DeltaHeavy> user: If you want a fast fix for your must recent problem just log in as root
[14:52] <DeltaHeavy> user: run: 'sudo passwd && su -'
[14:52] <oCean> DeltaHeavy: do NOT suggest that here, thanks
[14:52] <jpds> !noroot | DeltaHeavy
[14:52] <DeltaHeavy> user: Keep in mind that's not reccommended but since this is temporary you might want to consider it for speed
[14:52] <jrib> user: what is your end-goal?
[14:53] <DeltaHeavy> oCean: He's just doing a temporary thing. He's already butchered up a bunch of other stuff it seems or is going to.
[14:53] <user> uhm i'm installing opennebula and creating a little private cloud
[14:53] <user> it's just for a school project
[14:53] <mneptok> DeltaHeavy: manually editing /etc/passwd is a bad idea, not to mention impossible withot root privileges to start with.
[14:53] <oCean> DeltaHeavy: you cannot suggest that in this channel again. Period
[14:53] <Nogal> Hey, anyone know much about the Miro client? I'm having trouble getting an RSS torrent feed to work correctly.
[14:53] <DeltaHeavy> mneptok: It is, but he says he doesn't care
[14:53] <jrib> user: so why can't you install it without all this root business?
[14:54] <DeltaHeavy> oCean: He says he doesn't care about this stuff right now as it's just for a school project and he seems he just wants to get it done rather than do it right.
[14:54] <mneptok> user: you do not have root privileges on that machine. you need to ask someone *with* root privileges to grant you access.
[14:54] <user> I'm following a guide and it tells me the user has no permission for a command
[14:54] <bibi23> Fuchs: just an example to understand how I should do, if I have a cache folder, where only apache should have the right to write to, it means I should become apache when deploying my website, to make him as owner? and the same thing for each user
[14:54] <user> I have root access too :)
[14:54] <DeltaHeavy> user: Are you using 'sudo'?
[14:54] <jrib> user: did you install the operating system?
[14:54] <user> I installed it, yes
[14:55] <jrib> user: what happens when you run « sudo apt-get install opennebula » ?
[14:55] <user> "Sorry, user oneadmin is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/apt-get install opennebula-node' as root on ubuntu.(null)."
[14:55] <oCean> DeltaHeavy: there are other users in this channel as well that -just for fun- might try your command. Please follow our channel policy and do not suggest setting a root password here.
[14:55] <user> that after ssh'ing to the oneadmin account on the other machine
[14:55] <jrib> user: umm, "other machine"?
[14:55] <user> yes, opennebula is already installed on this machine
[14:56] <DeltaHeavy> oCean: I'll PM it next time
[14:56] <jrib> user: so did you install the OS on the other machine too?
[14:56] <Fuchs> bibi23: or have a subfolder where apache has the needed rights, and the user has. But only on that subfolder. Apache allows virtual hosts with different folders.
[14:56] <user> yes
[14:56] <Nogal> Anyone have experience using RSS Torrent feeds?
[14:56] <jrib> user: what's the output of « groups » when you run it on the "other machine" as the "oneadmin" user?
[14:57] <vlt> MonkeyDust: Thank you.
[14:57] <mattwj2002> hi guys I would like an easy way to read wikipedia offline using ubuntu
[14:57] <mattwj2002> any ideas?
[14:57] <user> I've already changed the permissions, when I log in as oneadmin it appears as root now
[14:57] <amikrop> Hello, how can I set the screensaver/lockscreen not to be activated while watching fullscreen flash videos in my browser?
[14:57] <mneptok> mattwj2002: http://schools-wikipedia.org
[14:57] <user> I did what I needed to do and now I'll just change it back
[14:58] <vlt> Sidewinder: Was that ffmpeg comment related to my DVD question?
[14:58] <mattwj2002> no I meant the whole site
[14:58] <jrib> user: umm what permissions did you change exactly?  What did you execute?
[14:58] <user> I changed it to the same as root
[14:58] <jrib> user: changed what...?
[14:58] <mneptok> mattwj2002: that link is for a downloadable, standalone version of Wikipedia.
[14:59] <user> [15:51] <DeltaHeavy> user: chown isn't going to do that. If you want to do that add a new user in /etc/passwd with a UID of '0'.
[14:59] <user> I did this
[14:59] <jrib> user: ok, well that's a really bad idea...  Just use sudo next time...
[14:59] <Sidewinder> vlt, Yes, but I wasn't sure wheather it could re-encode to VideoTS format; which is what you'd need to do to get it to "play on any DVD player."
[14:59] <mneptok> user: how did you edit /etc/passwd if you do not have admin access on that other machine?
[14:59] <mattwj2002> mneptok: that is only for the school dvd version
[14:59] <DeltaHeavy> He said he wanted a user with a root equivilent. I also sent a disclaimer.
[15:00] <vlt> Sidewinder: I’m sure it can re-encode to the corect MPEG" format. But I don’t know how to create the DVD image with ffmpeg.
[15:00] <jrib> DeltaHeavy: educate about sudo first next time
[15:00] <vlt> Sidewinder: *MPEG2
[15:00] <user> mneptok: i installed the OS so I have root access
[15:00] <DeltaHeavy> jrib: He said he "doesn't care" about that stuff and just wanted to get it done.
[15:00] <ddeathly> hello? can anyone help me? i am new to ubuntu and i get this erro messag while trying to install things :  Errors were encountered while processing:  ruby-rvm E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:00] <mneptok> user: but you say you do not have it on that "other machine."
[15:01] <jrib> DeltaHeavy: well how is editing /etc/passwd easier/faster than using sudo?
[15:01] <bibi23> Fuchs: ok so basically it's the same thing that I have now, the only difference is that instead of root I should add apache to a new custom user, wich have less rights than root
[15:01] <amikrop> Hello, how can I set the screensaver/lockscreen not to be activated while watching fullscreen flash videos in my browser?
[15:01] <user> I installed both machines
[15:01] <ddeathly> hello? can anyone help me? i am new to ubuntu and i get this erro messag while trying to install things :  Errors were encountered while processing:  ruby-rvm E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:01] <DeltaHeavy> jrib: He said he wanted a user with root privleges that wasn't root. That's what I gave him.
[15:01] <jrib> DeltaHeavy: because he doesn't know any better.
[15:01] <Fuchs> bibi23: in general: yes. You should do absolutely nothing as root where not needed.
[15:01] <hellox> why sort fails to sort according to the size?
[15:01] <hellox> http://iyanwu.com/pastebin/showthread.php?tid=92
[15:01] <ddeathly> hello? can anyone help me? i am new to ubuntu and i get this erro messag while trying to install things :  Errors were encountered while processing:  ruby-rvm E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:01] <user> just that the guide i'm following asks to SSH to oneadmin account on the other machine and install a package through there, and it was telling me it didn't have permissions
[15:01] <Fuchs> bibi23: I'd recommend you read a few basics on securing an ubuntu server. Yes, this is boring and annoying, but it will help you a lot.
[15:02] <ddeathly> hello? can anyone help me? i am new to ubuntu and i get this erro messag while trying to install things :  Errors were encountered while processing:  ruby-rvm E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:02] <DeltaHeavy> ddeathly: Please don't spam your question in here. We've seen it, if nobody replies in 15 minutes parhaps pot it again.
[15:02] <Fuchs> bibi23: plus the things I already mentioned: 1) don't use root  2) don't allow root logins  3) change your ssh configuration to a non-standard port and cert auth
[15:02] <Fuchs> bibi23: that should already cover most basics
[15:02] <ddeathly> ok...thanks
[15:02] <bibi23> Fuchs: no it's not boring at all it would interest me ;)
[15:02] <bibi23> I'll do
[15:02] <Fuchs> bibi23: great, then good luck. And feel free to ask if you are stuck somewhere.
[15:02] <Sidewinder> vlt, I've never used ffmpeg, sorry. :( So' I can't really help with the particulars; I just thought that it "might" be capable of doing what you wanted. That's why I asked MonkeyDust .
[15:03] <bibi23> ok thank you
[15:03] <DeltaHeavy> ddeathly: If nobody has an awnser for you, as I don't, Googling an error with quotes around it is usually a sure way to get a good idea on what's going on: http://www.google.ca/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=15&ix=h9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Errors+wereencountered+while+processing%3A+ruby-rvm+E%3A+Sub-process%2Fusr%2Fbin%2Fdpkg+returned+an+error+code+(1)%22#hl=en&sa=X&psj=1&ei=sZPDT_bqD9HeggfSmcAX&ved=0CAYQvwUoAA&q=%22Errors+were+encountered+while+processing
[15:04] <OerHeks> !google
[15:04] <ddeathly> Thanks, i have googled it and i get nothing :(
[15:04] <mneptok> DeltaHeavy: i recall a recent conversation about Google suggestions and this channel ....
[15:04] <Sidewinder> ddeathly, You might also try searching the forums, while you're waiting: http://ubuntuforums.org/  If you haven't already.
[15:04] <jrib> ddeathly: is that really the full message?
[15:05] <DeltaHeavy> mneptok: Nobody was awnserhing him, I googled it for him. It's better than him just sitting around
[15:05] <Nogal> anyone have experience with RSS torrent feeds or Miro? I'm trying to get it to work, it will download the .torrents automatically, but it leaves it there as an unplayable file. I then have to go through my filesystem to where it downloaded it, and click 'open with miro" -- where it finally finishes the job. --- Any ideas?
[15:05] <ddeathly> i have searched forums also, ill get full message
[15:05] <jrib> ddeathly: use pastebin, thanks
[15:05] <ddeathly> ok sec
[15:05] <ddeathly> ill set u pastebin
[15:06] <mneptok> DeltaHeavy: do not drop Google URLs or suggestions to use Google in this channel. you have pushed the issue too far, and now there's zero tolerance.
[15:06] <user> k all done
[15:06] <DeltaHeavy> ddeathly: Was this after an "upgrade"
[15:06] <user> thanks for the help everyone
[15:06] <OerHeks> ddeathly, return code 1, do you have synaptic/softwarecentre + terminal in use ?
[15:06] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-rvm/+bug/941510  ddeathly this it?
[15:06] <Eagleman> Is there a command to execute all commands in the crontab?
[15:07]  * samtuke tests
[15:07] <bazhang> bug #941510
[15:07] <ddeathly> http://pastebin.com/8PDcdSYd
[15:07] <amikrop> Hello, how can I set the screensaver/lockscreen not to be activated while watching fullscreen flash videos in my browser?
[15:07] <jrib> Eagleman: my guess would be "no" but I have no idea.  Why do you want to?
[15:07] <DeltaHeavy> mneptok: If nobody is helping him, why not offer my best effort. He may not have the GOogle Fu but I googled it for him.
[15:07] <odswct> how can i setup 3g usb modem to connect to internet in ubuntu server 12.04. can any one help me?
[15:08] <jrib> ddeathly: bazhang had a good suggestion.  Check if you have an "admin" group
[15:08] <ddeathly> and oerheks what is that?
[15:08] <ddeathly> how do i do that? i am new to linux
[15:08] <mneptok> DeltaHeavy: this is not a discussion. i am *telling* you not to drop Google URLs or suggestions.
[15:08] <bazhang> Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.   <-- ddeathly seems to be a bug
[15:08] <jrib> ddeathly: yep looks exactly like that bug bazhang linked to according to your paste
[15:08] <ddeathly> a bug? :( so i cant install things then
[15:09] <ddeathly> damn i need aircrack and metasploit :@
[15:09] <jrib> ddeathly: cheap workaround is to just create an admin group
[15:09] <mneptok> ddeathly: subscribe to the bug sl you know when it is fixed.
[15:09] <odswct> how can i setup 3g usb modem to connect to internet in ubuntu server 12.04?
[15:09] <ddeathly> kk ty how i make an admin group?
[15:09] <jrib> ddeathly: sudo addgroup admin
[15:09] <ddeathly> thankyou :) then to add my user?
[15:09] <ddeathly> sudo add chris?
[15:10] <jrib> ddeathly: I don't think it's necessary
[15:10] <ddeathly> kk thanks!!
[15:10] <Pricey> jrib: Is the admin group necessary seen as 'sudo' seems to succeed?
[15:10] <jrib> Pricey: it's not but see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-rvm/+bug/941510
[15:10] <amikrop> Hello, how can I set the screensaver/lockscreen not to be activated while watching fullscreen flash videos in my browser?
[15:10] <Pricey> jrib: Sneaky and good to know! Thanks.
[15:12] <odswct> how can i setup 3g usb modem to connect to internet in ubuntu server 12.04.
[15:13] <odswct> how can i setup 3g usb modem to connect to internet in ubuntu server 12.04. can any one help me?
[15:13] <DeltaHeavy> odswct: Are there any Linux drivers for that specific modem?
[15:13] <Eagleman> Is commenting Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server enough for disabling sftp?
[15:13] <ddeathly> chris@Chris-PC:~$ curl -L get.rvm.io | bash -s stable   % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current                                  Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed 100   185  100   185    0     0    170      0  0:00:01  0:00:01 --:--:--   758 100  9248  100  9248    0     0   4126      0  0:00:02  0:00:02 --:--:-- 45782 mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/share/ruby-rvm/src': Permissi
[15:13] <odswct> Deltaheavy: no not at all
[15:13] <ddeathly> i get this now?
[15:13] <Eagleman> in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[15:14] <mneptok> Eagleman: yes, should be.
[15:14] <Eagleman> ok thanks
[15:14] <DeltaHeavy> odswct: Could you post a pastebin of the output of the command 'lsusb'.
[15:15] <Yoshimi-pink> I want to replace the default programs in the .iso
[15:15] <odswct> DeltaHeavy:
[15:15] <odswct> odswct@odswct:~$ lsusb
[15:15] <odswct> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[15:15] <odswct> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[15:15] <odswct> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[15:15] <FloodBot1> odswct: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:15] <jrib> ddeathly: have you used ruby-rvm in previous versions of ubuntu?
[15:15] <odswct> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[15:15] <ddeathly> nope dont think so
[15:16] <amikrop> Hello, how can I set the screensaver/lockscreen not to be activated while watching fullscreen flash videos in my browser?
[15:16] <Yoshimi-pink> you know how a download of ubuntu comes with default programs allready in place? I want to change those programs on the .iso
[15:16] <odswct> deltaheavy: the modem works fine with the ubuntu desktop 12.04
[15:16] <DeltaHeavy> odswct: Please use pastebin or paste.ubuntu.com. Do not post your output here.
[15:16] <bazhang> !remaster | Yoshimi-pink
[15:17] <ddeathly> http://pastebin.com/uefzMgWe <--------- can anyone help me with ths error now please? i have so many :(
[15:17] <odswct> deltaheavy: i'm new to irc so what is pastbin?
[15:17] <Yoshimi-pink> thanks bazhang! :D
[15:17] <Yoshimi-pink> pastebin.com
[15:17] <Yoshimi-pink> it's the sinplest thing online to use
[15:18] <jrib> ddeathly: reading https://rvm.io/rvm/install/ it seems like you can install into your $HOME and avoid the package.  I'd consider taking that route until the package maintainer can deal with the bugs
[15:18] <Eagleman> mneptok after commenting Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server and an init 6 i could still connect to sftp
[15:18] <zombifier> There's also an Ubuntu command that automatically upload to pastebin
[15:18] <captine> hi all.  am moving back to ubuntu after trying arch for 2 weeks, but struggling to install off USB.  I see there is a bug related to ubiquity crashing on install... before i waste time, would the alternate CD also have this?
[15:18] <ddeathly> ok thanks ::P
[15:18] <mneptok> Eagleman: sudo invoke-rc.d openssh-server restart
[15:19] <Eagleman> what does the invoke-rc.d part do?
[15:19] <DeltaHeavy> odswct: Go to pastebin.com, paste the output there, give it a life of an hour or so, and submit it and send teh link over here.
[15:19] <mneptok> Eagleman: it's just restarting the server so that the config file is re-read.
[15:19] <odswct> zombifier: what is the command to automatically upload to pastbin?
[15:19] <bazhang> odswct, install pastebinit first
[15:19] <EliahKagan> odswct, yo may be thinking of pastebinit
[15:20] <Eagleman> mneptok /etc/init.d/openssh-server not found.
[15:20] <bazhang> odswct, pastebinit | command you want here
[15:20] <odswct> pastebinit
[15:20] <bazhang> odswct, install it
[15:20] <DeltaHeavy> odswct: There may be applications that can put things into pastebin but pastebin is a web service entirly different from Ubuntu like Google.
[15:20] <ddeathly> ffs iv done all this and still same error, grrrr
[15:21] <jrib> ddeathly: what directory are you in?
[15:21] <ddeathly> cant i not create the directory myseld?
[15:21] <ddeathly> myself
[15:21] <ddeathly> it says it has no permission to make the directory
[15:21] <ddeathly> so if i make it manually?
[15:21] <odswct> how to install pastbinit?
[15:21] <ddeathly> u dont install
[15:21] <ddeathly> its a website
[15:21] <ddeathly> pastebin.com
[15:22] <jrib> ddeathly: in your shell what directory are you in...
[15:22] <jrib> odswct: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:22] <DeltaHeavy> odswct: It's easier just to copy paste it to pastebin.com. If you still want to learn how to install things from the terminal just ask.
[15:22] <ddeathly> jrib i am completley new to linux i have no idea how to find out,
[15:22] <jrib> ddeathly: pwd
[15:22] <Eagleman> mneptok /etc/init.d/openssh-server not found, and after a restart ( init 6 ) it still works ( sftp )
[15:22] <Saiki> is there a channel for jakarta?
[15:22] <ddeathly> kk ty
[15:23] <Saiki> (or might be tomcat, not sure, folder is jakarta
[15:23] <ddeathly> jrib /home/chris is where i am
[15:23] <jrib> ddeathly: I'd start by removing that ruby-rvm package.  I don't think it's needed
[15:23] <ddeathly> ok, how do i do that?
[15:24] <ddeathly> jrib
[15:24] <jrib> ddeathly: sudo apt-get remove ruby-rvm
[15:24] <ddeathly> tyvm
[15:24] <ddeathly> Removing ruby-rvm ... The group `ruby-rvm' does not exist. Processing triggers for man-db ...
[15:24] <ddeathly> jrib
[15:24] <ddeathly> thatss what came up
[15:24] <jrib> ddeathly: that's ok, that's another bug I saw mentioned
[15:25] <ddeathly> ok xD now what?
[15:25] <odswct> i have no access to pastebin.com due to court orders, the site says. what is it?
[15:25] <ddeathly> sorrry for being such a god damned noob
[15:25] <ddeathly> my 1st day with linux
[15:25] <jrib> odswct: use paste.ubuntu.com
[15:25] <Eagleman> How to disable sftt, since commenting Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server isnt working...
[15:25] <alFReD-NSH> odswct: which country you are in?
[15:25] <georgewell> where do I have to install the boot loader? on /boot?
[15:25] <jrib> ddeathly: what's the output of « whoami »?
[15:25] <Eagleman> How to disable sftp, since commenting Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server ( location: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[15:25] <Eagleman>  )isnt working...
[15:26] <odswct> alFReD-NSH: India
[15:26] <ddeathly> says chris
[15:26] <jrib> Eagleman: try #openssh if no one knows here at the moment
[15:26] <DeltaHeavy> odswct: Use paste.ubuntu.com then
[15:26] <jrib> ddeathly: pastebin « env »
[15:26] <ddeathly> jrib just says chhris
[15:26] <ddeathly> kk
[15:27] <Eagleman> ty jrib
[15:27] <DBMedia> hi all, is there some way to get a few stats about a server usage ? Like, say, # i/o  req per second, cumulative bandwith use over a certain period of time, etc
[15:27] <EliahKagan> georgewell: normally you would install the boot loader to the Master Boot Record (MBR), which you would specify by telling it (GRUB2, that is) to install to the disk itself rather than any partition, for example /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2
[15:27] <ddeathly> jrib http://pastebin.com/5ZCH5wU2
[15:27] <EliahKagan> georgewell, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 for details
[15:27] <jrib> ddeathly: run « curl -L get.rvm.io | bash -s stable » and pastebin your command and output
[15:28] <Pricey> Eagleman: Did you remove that line, restart the server then make a new connection to test sftp?
[15:28] <Saiki> DBMedia: look in system
[15:28] <Pricey> Eagleman: Existing sftp sessions won't be killed on a sshd restart.
[15:28] <Eagleman> Pricey i commented the line, used init 6 and then reconnect using filezilla
[15:28] <odswct> DeltaHeavy: i just paste it to paste.ubuntu.com the lsusb output
[15:28] <georgewell> EliahKagan, thx!
[15:28] <DeltaHeavy> Then give us the URL to link to your paste.
[15:29] <Pricey> Eagleman: Could you pastebin your sshd_config?
[15:29] <Saiki> DBMedia: ?
[15:29] <Eagleman> sure
[15:29] <odswct> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011443/
[15:29] <DeltaHeavy> odswct: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1c9e:9605 OMEGA TECHNOLOGY   <-- This is your modem?
[15:29] <Pricey> Eagleman: Actually... this may be silly of us.
[15:29] <odswct> yes
[15:30] <Eagleman> Pricey http://pastebin.com/GX3ePp1X
[15:30] <Eagleman> and now i will do an init 6 and restart filezilla and connect to my sftp server
[15:30] <odswct> deltaheavy: it works fine in ubuntu desktop 12.04 but how do i setup to ubuntu server 12.04
[15:31] <DeltaHeavy> odswct: Try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126854/problem-connecting-internet-through-usb-modem-micromax
[15:31] <Pricey> Eagleman: Right... there's another problem. People can still log in with a standard ssh session and then start the sftp process and communicate with that.
[15:31] <Pricey> Eagleman: I assume that's what filezilla is doing.
[15:31] <ddeathly> jrib ill brb
[15:32] <Eagleman> Pricey lol, so how do i prevent that?
[15:32] <Eagleman> becuase i was still able to connect
[15:33] <Pricey> Eagleman: What's the real aim here, do you not want them using sftp, or not wanting them using sftp because it lets them do something else you don't want them to?
[15:33] <Eagleman> Pricey this is whats happening while connecting: http://pastebin.com/ZC4f8usQ
[15:33] <Pricey> Eagleman: That is ftp, not sftp.
[15:33] <Eagleman> ow my bad
[15:34] <odswct> deltaheavy: it describes for ubuntu desktop?
[15:34] <Eagleman> Pricey http://pastebin.com/gEET85GU thats sftp
[15:34] <ddeathly> jrib back
[15:34] <DeltaHeavy> odswct: The desktop and server versions are very similar. It more than probably applies to both.
[15:35] <Pricey> Eagleman: What's the real aim here, do you not want them using sftp, or not wanting them using sftp because it lets them do something else you don't want them to?
[15:35] <DoctorD90> how i have to install java?? 0o
[15:35] <DoctorD90> an*
[15:35] <DoctorD90> can*
[15:35] <odswct> deltaheavy: but there is no network manager? how can i handel that?
[15:35] <Pricey> !java | DoctorD90
[15:35] <Eagleman> Well the real aim was to not let people browse the folders using sftp, a simple solution was to disable sftp but since that isnt working its better to chroot sftp users, but will it also affect ssh users?
[15:36] <DoctorD90> i need jdownloader P Pricey
[15:36] <Pricey> Eagleman: Sounds like disabling sftp is just going to annoy your users and not solve the problem.
[15:36] <DeltaHeavy> odswct: You'll have to do wtihout it and test your connection in other ways.
[15:36] <Pricey> DoctorD90: Pardon?
[15:37] <DoctorD90> your name...typo... xP
[15:37] <shaneo> hi guys i seem to be having username errors on some of mydrives my username is shaneo but its showing shane when i do a ls -lrt --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011461/
[15:37] <Eagleman> well there arent really users since its a simple server at home for my self and my dad
[15:37] <Eagleman> i am just securing what i can secure
[15:37] <odswct> DeltaHeavy: i'm new to linux. i don't know how to do that other way.
[15:38] <DeltaHeavy> odswct: Use 'ping apache.org' to test your connection.
[15:38] <Saiki> Eagleman: are you sure ou didn't set somehting to allow "anyone" access to it?
[15:38] <Eagleman> havent modified sftp since the ubuntu 12.04 reinstall
[15:38] <ikonia> shaneo: I don't see anything wrong with that output
[15:38] <ddeathly> http://pastebin.com/j9VgEaHc <-----Can anyone else tell me why i cant install thi/s :(
[15:39] <Pricey> Eagleman: I think you'd do better ensuring he uses a passworded ssh key and not giving him access to sudo. Don't forget to regularly patch the machine.
[15:39] <Eagleman> Saiki all i did was commenting Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[15:39] <DoctorD90> Pricey, can you see query pls? :)
[15:39] <Saiki> ikonia: I found out what the mysql problem was, my.cnf had a bind lol
[15:39] <shaneo> ikonia, why is shane a username when shaneo is my username
[15:39] <ikonia> Eagleman have you restarted sshd after commenting it out
[15:39] <ddeathly> any one avalible to help me?
[15:39] <odswct> DeltaHeavy: how do i configure APN etc to connect to
[15:39] <shaneo> ikonia, shouldnt it be shaneo shaneo
[15:39] <ikonia> shaneo: shaneo is the username
[15:39] <Eagleman> Pricey where can i see if some has acces to sudo
[15:39] <ikonia> shaneo: you're in a gruop called "shane"
[15:39] <ikonia> group
[15:39] <Eagleman> ikonia i did an init 6, should do the same
[15:40] <ikonia> Eagleman: no it shouldn't
[15:40] <shaneo> hmm
[15:40] <Pricey> DoctorD90: Best to talk in here. If I disappear (I will soon) someone else can pick up.
[15:40] <ikonia> Eagleman: the init system has changed with upstart
[15:40] <ikonia> Eagleman: stop and start sshd
[15:40] <Eagleman> i cant
[15:40] <Saiki> ddeathly: you're not root
[15:40] <DoctorD90> ah ok....
[15:40] <ddeathly> how i make me root?
[15:40] <ddeathly> saiki
[15:40] <ikonia> Eagleman: why ?
[15:40] <Pricey> ikonia: He said he'd init 6'd in lieu of that.
[15:40] <jrib> ddeathly: run « curl -L get.rvm.io | bash -s stable » and pastebin your command and output
[15:40] <Saiki> ddeathly: sudo - i
[15:41] <Harris> what is the coolest ubuntu 12.04 feature
[15:41] <ikonia> Pricey: sorry, have I missed a line of why he can't restart ssh ?
[15:41] <DoctorD90> i would install jdownloader, but i understand that java is not installed, so i download pkg from java main page, but when i follow step there indicated, i get this: bash: fg: %: job inesistente
[15:41] <jrib> !ot | Harris
[15:41] <Eagleman> bash: /etc/init.d/sshd: No such file or directory
[15:41] <ddeathly> http://pastebin.com/j9VgEaHc jrib saiki
[15:41] <Saiki> ddeathly: do what jrib said, he/she's more experienced than I am
[15:41] <jrib> ddeathly: I still don't see a command
[15:41] <DeltaHeavy> odswct: That depends on the software that came with it. I think your best bet is to look up how to configure that exact product with Ubuntu servers
[15:41] <Pricey> ikonia: no idea
[15:41] <ddeathly> sec
[15:42] <ikonia> Eagleman: 1.) you need sudo 2.) it's just called ssh
[15:42] <jrib> Saiki: what you suggested would work if ddeathly doesn't mind installing system-wide
[15:42] <ikonia> Eagleman: check thing eg: "ls -la" before just typing them
[15:42] <ikonia> Eagleman: make sure the file you want is there and that's the right file
[15:42] <ddeathly> i dont mind
[15:42] <ddeathly> aslong as it works :D
[15:42] <ddeathly> http://pastebin.com/SxyrZg9u
[15:42] <Saiki> jrib: well, he's putting it in a shared folder.. lol
[15:42] <Joshun> hi
[15:42] <jrib> Saiki: the script should be using ~ (according to documentation)
[15:42] <Joshun> does anyone here know how to get python3 to work with gtk3?
[15:42] <odswct> DeltaHeavy: there is no software available from vendor for linux. do u guide me the way?
[15:43] <Eagleman> i cant restart sshd ssh or something like that
[15:43] <DoctorD90> ...someone can help me one moment with java installation pls? :(
[15:43] <Saiki> jrib: "~" = ?
[15:43] <jrib> Joshun: well what happens when you try?
[15:43] <Joshun> it just gives me: No module named gi.repository
[15:43] <ikonia> Eagleman: why ?
[15:43] <jrib> Saiki: $HOME
[15:43] <Saiki> jrib: ty
[15:43] <Joshun> and python-gobject is installed
[15:43] <Saiki> jrib: I always used "~/"
[15:43] <ddeathly> ok
[15:44] <jrib> Joshun: install the right package ;)
[15:44] <DeltaHeavy> odswct: I don't know, I'm unsure about vendor specific stuff. I'd give you a push in the right direction but it would be against the rules.
[15:44] <ddeathly> i made myself root and installed, now how do i updatr rvm?
[15:44] <Pricey> Saiki: ~pricey is different to ~/pricey
[15:44] <ddeathly> update**
[15:44] <jrib> Joshun: try python3-gi
[15:44] <Pricey> Saiki: however ~/ and ~ will take you to the same place. I know which is easier to type.
[15:44] <Eagleman> ./etc/init.d/ssh restart
[15:45] <Eagleman> ssh stop/waiting
[15:45] <Eagleman> ssh start/running, process 2683
[15:45] <ikonia> Eagleman: did you use sudo as I said ?
[15:45] <Saiki> Pricey: noted
[15:45] <jrib> Eagleman: you really should use the « service » command instead of calling scripts in /etc/init.d/ directly
[15:45] <odswct> DeltaHeavy: thank you!
[15:45] <Joshun> jrib: thanks, that worked :) it really ought to be a dependency of python-gobject
[15:45] <Eagleman> why should i use sudo if i'm always logged in as root while on the terminal?
[15:45] <Eagleman> root@eagleman:/etc/init.d# /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[15:45] <ikonia> Eagleman: how are you logged in as root ?
[15:45] <Eagleman> sudo su
[15:45] <DoctorD90> can someone help me with java installation?? :D
[15:46] <Eagleman> i'm not gonna type an password everytime after using sudo command
[15:46] <ikonia> Eagleman: right, I'm going to back away now as you're trying to break the ubuntu security model
[15:46] <jrib> !java | DoctorD90
[15:46] <Saiki> anone know how I can check what port a webpage is running on?
[15:46] <kunji> Hi everyone, does anyone know how to forward packets for UPnP?  I have a desktop with mediatomb connected by CAT5 to a laptop that connects to my router via wireless.  If I connect the desktop by wireless to my router i can reach everything on mediatomb from my PS3 (via wireless to the router).  With this configuration though the laptop is the gateway for the desktop.  so router is 192.168.1.1, laptop connected to router at 192.168.1.6, lap
[15:46] <Pricey> Eagleman: sudo remembers you entered your password for a configurable amount of time.
[15:46] <ikonia> Eagleman: you're going to end up with a problem with the approach you are taking,
[15:46] <Pricey> kunji: Have you looked in network manager's settings? I found it very easy to 'bridge' last time I looked.
[15:47] <Pricey> kunji: (netowrk manager is the little icon next to the clock)
[15:47] <nydel> help? i need terminals i open using Ctrl+Alt-Meta+t to have focus rather than open in background. please & thank you.
[15:47] <Eagleman> Fine ikonia and Pricey
[15:47] <catmando> hey all
[15:48] <kunji> Pricey: Well, it is essentially a bridge, is it not?  And I'm not sure how well network manager will play with the changes I've made, could just end up with a mess couldn't I?
[15:48] <catmando> does anyone know about the toshiba kernel module in 12.04?
[15:48] <ikonia> catmando: just ask what you want to know
[15:48] <DoctorD90> jrib, i dont know what i have to install to un jdownloader..do you know?
[15:48] <ikonia> catmando: it's been a bit flakey with certain models and the hot keys
[15:48] <catmando> toshiba_acpi seems to be working, but i can't get toshset to run unless i have the actual toshiba module
[15:48] <jrib> DoctorD90: I don't
[15:48] <Pricey> kunji: Separate network cards requires 'effort' to bridge.
[15:48] <Eagleman> sudo service ssh restart
[15:48] <Pricey> Unless I've mistaken.
[15:48] <catmando> basically, toshset does not work. the hotkeys all work
[15:49] <kunji> Pricey: I think I did my original setup that way some months ago just for forwarding to one comp, but I think for UPnP I need something a bit different
[15:49] <ikonia> catmando: I'm not surprised by the the toshiba module is quite fussy on a lot of things
[15:49] <catmando> i would like to use toshset to control my fans
[15:49] <catmando> ikonia: the toshiba module is not actually loaded
[15:49] <Pricey> kunji: By the way, your message was cut off at 'connected to router' so I had to guess at your problem ;)
[15:49] <ikonia> catmando: tried loading it ?
[15:49] <ikonia> catmando: it's not uncommon for certain functionality to work/break in different releases on different models
[15:49] <catmando> ikonia: and i can't seem to find it
[15:49] <nydel> when y'all launch terminal, does it have focus?
[15:49] <ikonia> catmando: have you installed it ?
[15:49] <Eagleman> sftp is still working after a sudo service ssh restart
[15:50] <catmando> ikonia: i can't find it
[15:50] <ikonia> catmando: where are you looking ?
[15:50] <catmando> ikonia: in the repos?
[15:50] <ikonia> catmando: I don't think it's there, you have to get it from the toshiba support site
[15:50] <Harris> i have an hp pavilion dv6000 laptop next to caps lock on the laptop is a blue light that turns one when caps is on  but when i plug in the usb keyboard i can type but when i press caps the light does not go i tried in windows and it worked but not in ubuntu
[15:50] <catmando> ikonia: let me see
[15:50] <Saiki> is there a specific package for tomcat?
[15:50] <ikonia> I think the ibm one is in the repos, but the toshiba one is external
[15:50] <catmando> ikonia: oh i see
[15:51] <DoctorD90> i will try. thx!
[15:51] <catmando> ikonia: my other laptop is a thinkpad
[15:51] <Harris> i have an hp pavilion dv6000 laptop next to caps lock on the laptop is a blue light that turns one when caps is on  but when i plug in the usb keyboard i can type but when i press caps the light does not go i tried in windows and it worked but not in ubuntu
[15:51] <Harris> i have an hp pavilion dv6000 laptop next to caps lock on the laptop is a blue light that turns one when caps is on  but when i plug in the usb keyboard i can type but when i press caps the light does not go i tried in windows and it worked but not in ubuntu
[15:51] <FloodBot1> Harris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:51] <kunji> Pricey: here's the rest  at 192.168.1.6, laptop acts as gateway (10.42.43.1) for desktop (10.42.43.53), I've managed to forward my tcp traffic with iptables on the laptop and can ping back and forth from the desktop to the rest of the network and vice versa.  So I think I just need a rule or two for iptables to get the UPnP working.    (didn't show the cut off on mine for some reason)
[15:51] <zombifier> Harris: What's the brand of this external keyboard?
[15:51] <ikonia> catmando: I think that's right, tosh is external, ibm is open so made it into the repos
[15:51] <Harris> hp zombifier
[15:51] <Pricey> kunji: Is there any reason why you want to do it with random iptables?
[15:52] <Pricey> kunji: I'd far and away reccomend getting rid of what you've done and using network-manager instead. It'll bridge the two. No messy NAT's.
[15:52] <zombifier> Harris: open a terminal, enter "xev"
[15:52] <Pricey> kunji: As far as the other machine will be concerned, it'll be on the real network.
[15:52] <kunji> Pricey: just that I don't think the network manager method was working out for me, I'm willing to try again though, I'm all ears ^_^
[15:52] <zombifier> Then keep the terminal open and press the Cap Lock key and post the output exactly when the key is presses
[15:53] <Myrtti> odswct: FloodBot is a bot, it can't answer your questions.
[15:53] <zombifier> Press the Cap Lock key on the xev window
[15:53] <Pricey> kunji: I'm not on an ubuntu machine atm so I'm little use... but i know that it was easy peasy when i did it.
[15:53] <kunji> Pricey: So if I go into the network manager and to edit connection for my wired connection (to the desktop), under ipv4 settings, the method is set as "Shared to other computers"
[15:53] <Harris> where should i paste the outcome it is long
[15:54] <Saiki> Harris: pastebin.com ?
[15:54] <ikonia> !pastebin | Harris
[15:54] <Pricey> kunji: i think that sounds right
[15:55] <Eagleman> So why is there a risk involved by using sudo su instead of sudo?
[15:55] <Harris> zombifier, http://pastebin.com/eg0QNV2j
[15:55]  * nydel needs help with a simple problem
[15:55] <jrib> Eagleman: environment isn't reset.  If you really think you need a terminal that runs commands with superuser privileges, use "sudo -i"
[15:55] <ikonia> nydel: just ask
[15:56] <nydel> Harris: we have a pastebin at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com, i like it better, check it out
[15:56] <Saiki> Eagleman:  su (root) has global permissions and it's VERY easy to screw somehting up. sudo (as root) only allows that one change to be made as a root user
[15:56] <zombifier> Weird. The output says that Cap Lock WAS pressed. Can you type in all caps when Cap Lock was on?
[15:57] <nydel> ikonia: recently. when i use ctrl-meta-t to open a terminal window, it isn't in focus.
[15:57] <ikonia> nydel: that doesn't sound simple
[15:57] <Saiki> nydel: "meta"?
[15:57] <nydel> ikonia: maybe it isn't, i thought it was
[15:57] <ikonia> nydel: that sounds like changing the window managers behaviour
[15:57] <nydel> Saiki: meta means Alt sometimes
[15:58] <nydel> Saiki: as in the Alt key, i mean
[15:58] <Saiki> nydel: ah..
[15:58] <kunji> Pricey: Yeah, that seems to work great for just internet, but laptop keeps it's own ip for the connection, and the desktop gets it's ip from the laptop, not the router.  So I had to add a route to the router in order to ping back and forth, so now I thought all traffic should be going where it should, but the UPnP just doesn't seem to be working, so I was resorting to iptables because I think I needed to convince the laptop to send all traf
[15:58] <Harris> zombifier, harris@harris-HP-Pavilion-dv6000-RP296UA-ABA:~$ XEV
[15:58] <Harris> XEV: command not found
[15:58] <nydel> ikonia: when i open something using anything but global hotkeys, it's in focus
[15:59] <nydel> ikonia: so i thought maybe that was a simple config somewhere maybe, specific to unity(3d)?
[15:59] <Harris> zombifier,  (root) has global permissions and it's VERY easy to screw somehting up. sudo (as root) only allows that one change to be made as a root user
[15:59] <Harris> * rigved has quit (Client Quit)
[15:59] <Harris> * FnorZ (~cthulhu@unaffiliated/fnorz) has joined #ubuntu
 Weird. The output says that Cap Lock WAS pressed. Can you type in all caps when Cap Lock was on?
 ikonia: recently. when i use ctrl-meta-t to open a terminal window, it isn't in focus.
[15:59] <FloodBot1> Harris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 nydel: that doesn't sound simple
[15:59] <zombifier> Harris: It's a non-issue to me. I think the keyboard driver was not working really well with the lights, but it works.
[15:59] <Pricey> kunji: that was the wrong option then... is there another one? 'bridge interfaces' or similar?
[16:00] <zombifier> And btw, commands in Linux are case sentitive - xev works, but XEV doesn't
[16:00] <Harris> zombifier,  where can i get a new driver
[16:00] <nydel> we should have a bot that takes support tickets
[16:01] <kunji> Pricey: they are, Automatic (DHCP), Automatic (DHCP) addresses only, Manual, Link-Local Only, Shared to other computers, and Disabled
[16:01] <nydel> has anyone suggested that yet
[16:01] <Pricey> kunji: Maybe I'm just imagining it :-/ I've got to head off now. Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BridgingNetworkInterfaces I still think you'd have better luck bridging than the other way.
[16:01] <kunji> Pricey: thanks for the help though, I remember seeing something like what you're saying in the past, don't see it here now though
[16:01] <zombifier> Harris: Dunno. I'm blind as a bat when it comes to hardware-related stuffs
[16:03] <ddeathly> ok one more error -.- how do i update RVm from 1.6.9 to 1.9.3?
[16:03] <nydel> zombifier: i've a software issue, wanna see if you can solve it off the top of your head or point me in the right direction?
[16:04] <nydel> ddeathly: did you try apt-get?
[16:04] <zombifier> What's your issue nydel? Post here and everyone could help
[16:04] <ddeathly> it would be apt-get rvm 1.9.3 right?
[16:05] <nydel> zombifier: thanks (you know how it is, if you don't get a response your question gets lost in the shuffle)
[16:05] <zombifier> There's always the Ubuntu Forums
[16:05] <Nogal> nydel; I just got back and have some time, if it's within my league i'll be happy to help
[16:05] <ddeathly> nydel what would i put? apt-get rvm 1.9.3
[16:05] <nydel> when i use ctrl-alt/meta-t to open a terminal, the terminal window doesn't have focus. it wasn't like this until recently
[16:06] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> any suggestions as to why I keep being told "no media found' when trying to read from floppy disks? I've tried 6 different ones now. NOTE: all 6 of these read fine under windows and Gentoo
[16:06] <nydel> ddeathly: try "sudo apt-get  install rvm"
[16:06] <Nogal> hmm... do other windows draw focus on open?
[16:06] <ddeathly> ty
[16:06] <yeats> Dj_FlyBy[ms]: have you checked the logs?
[16:07] <nydel> ddeathly: if that's not the package name it might know what the package name is. otherwise we can find the package another way, let me know what happens
[16:07] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> yeats: can't say I have. where are they located in relation to the floppy
[16:07] <ddeathly> nydel: dosent know thet package :(
[16:07] <yeats> Dj_FlyBy[ms]: you could start with /var/log/syslog or /var/log/dmesg
[16:07] <nydel> Nogal: other windows draw focus & so does terminal if i don't launch it with keystrokes
[16:07] <yeats> Dj_FlyBy[ms]: look for messages about 'fd0' or something similar
[16:08] <zombifier> nydel: I'll just make a wild guess here, but are you using Compiz?
[16:08] <nydel> zombifier: yes
[16:08] <Nogal> zombi, I was about to ask the same thing.
[16:08] <nydel> zombifier: oh shit is it that thing in general in compiz config
[16:08] <Sidewinder> Dj_FlyBy[ms], Try this: sudo udisks --mount /dev/fd0
[16:09] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> yeats: thanks
[16:09] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> Sidewinder: I'll  try that now
[16:09] <nydel> zombifier: "commands" in compiz is disabled -- but i did enable it once, & that may have been the day this problem started.
[16:09] <OerHeks> ddeathly, build rvm 1.9.3 yourself, it is not in the repository's
[16:09] <nydel> ddeathly: let me figure it out, one moment
[16:09] <ddeathly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011504/
[16:09] <ddeathly> get thsi error?
[16:10] <Sidewinder> Dj_FlyBy[ms], This link 'might' provide a more permanent fix: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+question/126414
[16:10] <zombifier> Sorry, gotta go. Mom's calling.
[16:10] <Nogal> nydel: compiz is buggy, especially if you're running it on top of Unity
[16:10] <nydel> ddeathly: did you see this: https://rvm.io/rvm/install/
[16:10] <zombifier> BTW, I got it running flawlessl
[16:10] <ddeathly> yes
[16:10] <nydel> ddeathly: that seems to be a pretty concise step-by-step
[16:10] <ddeathly> no help
[16:11] <ddeathly> i done it all all i get is errors
[16:11] <nydel> ok let me see your pastebin.
[16:11] <ddeathly> when i run metasploit it tells me i need to update RVM to 1.9.3
[16:12] <nydel> Nogal: i'd like to try gnome - how do i go about doing that? when i log in using one of the two gnome options at login screen, i get no toolbars or anything etc...then again i don't know what gnome looks like. am i missing a package perhaps?
[16:12] <OerHeks> LoLz metasploit
[16:12] <ddeathly> nydel: i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011504/
[16:13] <nydel> ok ddeathly i understand, give me a moment
[16:13] <Nogal> nydel: I would try sudo apt-get install gnome-shell for gnome3 (honestly I prefer 12.04's Unity to this)
[16:13] <ddeathly> ok ty :)#
[16:14] <nydel> Nogal: i like unity in theory but it seems to be buggy, is that a common feeling?
[16:14] <nydel> ddeathly: np buddy
[16:14] <catmando> ok, after much searching i'm still nowhere
[16:14] <catmando> i can't find any toshiba kernel module that would allow me to use toshset
[16:14] <melvincv> unity is usable in 12.04, though I need to replace compiz at times.
[16:15] <catmando> it seems silly that toshset is in the repos when you can't use it
[16:15] <Nogal> Nydel, I felt it was quite buggy in Narhwal and Ocelot, but Pangolin seems dead-on. I did have to do a fresh install though, as the upgraded version (base install was Lynx) was quite buggy at this point.
[16:16] <nydel> is Pangolin 12.04
[16:16] <Nogal> is it a fresh install of pangolin, or did you upgrade from another version?
[16:17] <nydel> i wubi'd 11.last & upgraded when 12.04 came
[16:17] <Nogal> yeah I would definitely suggest a fresh install if you are able to back up your stuff.
[16:17] <theadmin> ew wubi
[16:18] <theadmin> nydel: Avoid wubi at all costs, it gives you a broken setup most of the time
[16:18] <theadmin> I mean yeah it works but it's unstable and renders weird errors, especially when upgrading
[16:19] <ddeathly> lol all these erros for 1 program xD
[16:19] <nydel> theadmin: i was just messing around to see what kinda progress ubuntu made since i was away for a few years, then i never booted back into windows!
[16:19] <nydel> ddeathly: when it rains...
[16:19] <ddeathly> nydel xD
[16:19] <Nogal> nydel: I know that feeling. I checked up on it with Lucid and never went back lol
[16:20] <nydel> Nogal: i put wubi on every friend's windows desktop with a shortcut labeled "nydel says to run this"
[16:22] <ahri> hey everyone :) anyone know anything about mounting a LVM volume inside a ubuntu KVM on proxmox? I know this is not the proxmox channel, and i hope I'm not insulting someone by asking here.
[16:22] <nydel> ddeathly: i would just use http://ftp.ruby-lang.org/pub/ruby/1.9/ruby-1.9.3-p194.tar.gz -- what do you think of that
[16:22] <ddeathly> nydel: ok but metasploit need rvm 1.9.3 ;/
[16:23] <ddeathly> how do i install that? i am VERY new to ubuntu
[16:23] <nydel> ddeathly: show me the output when you try to run metasploit?
[16:23] <nydel> ddeathly: get a terminal open
[16:23] <ddeathly> ok sure gimme a sec
[16:24] <ddeathly> nydel: error from msf http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011535/
[16:24] <nydel> ddeathly: do "mkdir ruby-temp-thing" then "cd ruby-temp-thing" & then type "wget http://ftp.ruby-lang.org/pub/ruby/1.9/ruby-1.9.3-p194.tar.gz"
[16:24] <ddeathly> nydel
[16:24] <ddeathly> nydel kk
[16:24] <nydel> ddeathly: ok i'll look, we'll get it all running, try the above for now
[16:24] <theadmin> Eh guys, compiling from source is *always* a bad idea -- look for a PPA with the needed version of the needed app
[16:25] <OerHeks> theadmin no it is not *always* bad
[16:25] <nydel> theadmin: it's RVM, ruby's version manager. how do we look for a ppa of that?
[16:25] <theadmin> Especially with something potentially system-crytical such as programming languages (then again, Ruby is not a common language, IIRC all Ubuntu-specific stuff is Pythonese)
[16:25] <ddeathly> nydel ok thanks so much man
[16:25] <nydel> nydel agrees with OerHeks
[16:26] <OerHeks> theadmin, if you mean, starting with metasploit without knowledge, yes
[16:26] <nydel> theadmin yeah ruby is silly, it's the shockwave-flash of programming languages
[16:26] <nydel> i don't even know what metasploit is yet
[16:27] <ahri> hey everyone :) anyone know anything about mounting a LVM volume inside a ubuntu KVM on proxmox? I know this is not the proxmox channel, and i hope I'm not insulting someone by asking here.
[16:27] <theadmin> nydel: Well I wouldn't say it's "silly", but yeah, it's a huge-for-nothing dependency most of the time -- I'm a Perl person myself :P
[16:27] <nydel> ddeathly: did you try this: https://community.rapid7.com/docs/DOC-1296
[16:28] <ddeathly> i belive so, ill do it all again :)
[16:28] <theadmin> OerHeks: And that too -- I don't know why would someone who doesn't know what Metasploit is and how exactly to use it even want it
[16:28] <nydel> theadmin: i'm lisp, but perl's got a special place in my heart.
[16:28] <theadmin> nydel: "special place"?
[16:29] <nydel> theadmin: well, it's not top-level like lisp, it's not script like (ba)sh, it's kinda the buddhism of programming languages, middle way
[16:29] <Areckx> So I still have a question that was unanswered(I think) : When I am using ibus-anthy for Japanese input, I used to be able to convert numbers to special circled numbers, ⓪⓪⓪❶ for example. Now when I type a number I only get three options: half-width alpha, full width alpha, and the kanji... why has this happened? I recently installed new fonts, but I don't see how that would change the character conversion list; how do I fix th
[16:29] <Areckx> is?
[16:30] <Eagleman> jrib, what do you mean with "environment isn't reset"
[16:31] <tbrown_2012> I have a little trouble with internet connection with ubuntu 8.04 LTS. Am trying to get the internet to work I type in ifconfig eth0 and it showed eth0 Link encap:ethernet HWaddr 2c.76:8a:d5:c8:9a UP BRODCAST MULTICAT MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:479 errors:0 dropped:68230020 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[16:31] <ddeathly> nydel: already installed
[16:31] <Nogal> tbrown_2012
[16:31] <Nogal> try gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[16:31] <Lunar_Lander> hi I got a question on the Ubuntu Font License, is it OK to ask here? If yes: If I make a logo for a personal T-Shirt with the fonts, is that OK?
[16:31] <Eagleman> Since my linux teacher told me to use su to perform root commands, so he was wrong all the time?
[16:32] <Nogal> Eagleman: sudo would normally be a better option
[16:32] <theadmin> Lunar_Lander: It is -- the Ubuntu fonts are freely reusable.
[16:32] <Lunar_Lander> thanks!
[16:33] <tbrown_2012> Nogal: Know what it gives me a enterfaces gedit what do I do:)
[16:33] <Lunar_Lander> the licensing is required when I change the fonts or so?
[16:33] <Nogal> can you pastebin what it says in there?
[16:33] <kaddi> hi, i have nautilius opening on each boot ever since I upgraded to 12.04. Anyone have an idea what might be causing that?
[16:33] <alibama> hi all = installing ubuntu on a 64 bit raid 5 system and getting a nasty grub error - my fault, I aborted a working installation because i thought i had made a mistake with the raid set up (turns out that was fine) now i basically need to clean everything up and start over
[16:33] <tbrown_2012> Nogal: It does not say anything in it:(
[16:33] <Lunar_Lander> thanks theadmin !
[16:34] <alibama> what is the best way to totally erase my first attempt and start from scratch?
[16:34] <ddeathly> nydel i already installed all of that
[16:34] <Nogal> are you sure the path is correct? /etc/network/interfaces
[16:34]  * stilia-johny anyone know from python?
[16:34] <theadmin> stilia-johny: Try #python
[16:34] <angs> where does ubuntu keep the drivers? What directory?
[16:35] <theadmin> angs: /lib/modules/
[16:35] <angs> thank you
[16:35] <stilia-johny> thank for the help!
[16:35] <tbrown_2012> Nogal: It says: auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[16:35] <Eagleman> Nogal what about sudo -i instead of sudo su? whats the difference?
[16:35] <Eagleman> it both makes me root
[16:36] <alibama> anyone know a good disk formatting utility that i can boot up with and fix my fubar setup?
[16:36] <tbrown_2012> Nogal: It says: auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[16:37] <Nogal> brown_2012: k, try sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces and edit it to read as such:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011554/4
[16:37] <Nogal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011554/
[16:37] <Nogal> sorry had a typo at the last link
[16:37] <bastidrazor> !gksudo
[16:40] <Karkara> Good day, guys! Just recently I've been getting this annoying bug from both totem and totem-video-thumbnailer. The issue is: whenever I try to open the video player or Banshee, they'll eventually crash (not even loading) and I'll get the message "Process /usr/bin/totem OR totem-video-thumbnailer was killed by signal 7 (SIGBUS)". Could anyone help me with that?
[16:40] <jungle-boogie> silly q...i need to allocate more space to my /usr. I have a 14 gig mounted partition. how do i assign/associate this with /usr?
[16:41] <nydel> ddeathly: sorry about that
[16:41] <ddeathly> nydel bout waht :D
[16:42] <nydel> ddeathly: so, you did that & now when you run metasploit you get the thing you pastebin'd about needing rvm 1.9.3 - is that right?
[16:42] <ddeathly> yup
[16:42] <ddeathly> so i need to update rvm
[16:42] <ddeathly> how do i do tht?
[16:42] <ddeathly> i get erros for everyhting to do with rvm :(
[16:43] <tbrown_2012> Nogal: Thank you:)
[16:43] <Nogal> tbrown_2012: all work well?
[16:43] <jungle-boogie> could i just do some symbolic link?
[16:44] <Nogal> tbrown_2012: in case you missed it, I was corrected with some good information regarding using gksudo instead of sudo for launching graphical applications. (Thanks again)
[16:44] <tbrown_2012> Nogal: Sorry I just tryed it in my internet browser and it says Address Not Found.
[16:44] <Nogal> tbrown_2012: it won't immediately take. I could look up the command to reset it, but it would probably be faster to give the machine a reboot
[16:45] <Drecondius> Ok, I'm about to burn out my brain now, none of the broadcom drivers work, devices shows up with lsusb, ndiswrapper -l shows the device present and driver active, and still i can't connect to the internet.
[16:46] <wilee-nilee> ddeathly, what OS are you running?
[16:46] <compdoc> what does ifconfig show you
[16:46] <ddeathly> nydel this is the error i get trying to update rvm http://pastebin.com/LPVnRXY2
[16:46] <ddeathly> wilee-nilee ubuntu 12.04
[16:47] <zamba> i want to move my ubuntu 12.04 installation to a new hard drive.. how can this be done?
[16:47] <Drecondius> compdoc: who?
[16:47] <tbrown_2012> Nogal: Is there anything else I did made me as root and did sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces and I did what the Ubuntu Pastebin said did you say anything else after that:)
[16:47] <zamba> .. the fastest way
[16:47] <Nogal> tbrown_2012: gksudo /etc/network/interaces and the pastebin stuff, save it, and reboot
[16:47] <OerHeks> zamba dd
[16:47] <OerHeks> !clone
[16:48] <wilee-nilee> zamba, fastest or safest?
[16:48] <compdoc> Drecondius, you. Does ifconfig show the card? If not, sometimes its just easier to use cards that Ubuntu has the drivers for
[16:48] <Alexxxya> I need http://forum.ubuntu-rs.org/Thread-reseno-problem-sa-skype-om
[16:48] <zamba> OerHeks: the two hard drives are in the same machine
[16:48] <Alexxxya> sorry
[16:48] <Alexxxya> I need wget -N boundlesssupremacy.com/Cappy/getlibs/getlibs-all.deb
[16:49] <zamba> i just want to move from one hard drive to the other
[16:49] <zamba> wilee-nilee: fastest AND safest :)
[16:49] <Drecondius> compdoc: Give me just a few mins and I'll have the feedback
[16:49] <Alexxxya> but there's some problem. I need it for skype. Where else can I find it?
[16:49] <OerHeks> zamba http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/19141/clone-a-hard-drive-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[16:50] <tbrown_2012> Nogal: what does gksudo /etc/network/interraces do after I reboot it
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> zamba, I would not worry so much about speed, if you have a partition or a external I would use clonezilla, you have a copy and the original then, b ut that is just me.
[16:51] <Nogal> tbrown_2012: the changed interfaces file will tell it to automatically trigger your ethernet port, and the rest of it sets it to use a dynamic IP adress
[16:51] <Needer_of_Help> drupal/ubuntu noob, following the drupal book, trying to add a module getting error "Cannot connect to FTP Server, check settings"
[16:52] <ddeathly> nydel any luck? :/
[16:52] <harushimo> virtual machine in ubuntu
[16:53] <nydel> ddeathly: sorry had a firefox crash trying to look at pastebin, trying again
[16:53] <harushimo> is there  to run virtual machine without having an option inside your bios for virtualization on your motherboard in ubuntu?
[16:53] <wilee-nilee> zamba, you could do a copy and paste with a live gparted cd of the partions, if you have them equal or greater in size as well.
[16:53] <ddeathly> nydel ok man np :) wow i have spent 6 hrs trying to get this thing to work
[16:53] <tbrown_2012> nogal: Samething Happen when I type in www.google.com it says Address not found:(
[16:54] <nydel> ddeathly: you should use our pastebin at http://pastebin.ubuntu.org -- pastebin.com doesn't feel clean & open source to me, it's just personal preference though
[16:54] <ddeathly> ok sure,want me to repost the error?
[16:54] <ddeathly> nydel
[16:54] <Nogal> to ensure that I didn't mess you up, did it work before?
[16:55] <nydel> ddeathly: when it works it'll be worth it, you learn things along the way, it's the only way to truly learn so consider it 6 hours of blessing
[16:55] <Drecondius> compdoc: It doesn't show up in ifconfig, mainly because it's not active
[16:55] <tbrown_2012> nogal: Samething Happen when I type in www.google.com it says Address not found:(
[16:55] <csilk> is it possible to run two svn clients on the same ubuntu installation easily?
[16:55] <nydel> ddeathly: no need to repastebin it, i just wanted to say ours is better :)
[16:55] <Nogal> tbrown_2012: try ifconfig in terminal
[16:55] <ddeathly> nydel yeah i know :) i am 14 and liv on comps, dnt get on with tohers ;) i know a fair bit, but linux is sonew to me
[16:55] <csilk> I need the 1.6 and 1.7 versions
[16:55] <Nogal> copy the pastebin to me
[16:56] <ddeathly> nydel hhaa ok man ill use ubuntus paste site now
[16:56] <Drecondius> It's using the broadcom 4323 chipset
[16:56] <Drecondius> Only thing i can figure is I need the firmware from it and I don't know how to go about doing that
[16:56] <Freeaqingme> on ubuntu server, I want to add an alias like 'external' to a nic (eth1.25). How can I accomplish that via /etc/network/interfaces?
[16:56] <nydel> ddeathly: cool, also i feel like i'm helping the project by using it, more traffic to the site etc.
[16:56] <tbrown_2012> Nogal: Something is Strange it giving me 2 eth0 but the second one give me eth0: avahi
[16:56] <jungle-boogie> I would appreciate help assigning /dev/sda10 to /dev/sda7. how can I do this?  current dh -h:  http://sprunge.us/iEVH
[16:56] <AngrySpam98> Hello!
[16:56] <ddeathly> nydel yeah i gues you are :D
[16:56] <nydel> ddeathly: did you send output for when you run metasploit?
[16:57] <ddeathly> nydel yeah ill get the output error and re paste bin now gimme a sec
[16:57] <AngrySpam98> whoah
[16:57] <tbrown_2012> Nogal: Something is Strange it giving me 2 eth0 but the second one give me eth0: avahi
[16:58] <ddeathly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011583/
[16:58] <ddeathly> nydel
[16:58] <AngrySpam98> I set my mouse acceleration AND  sensutuvuty ti as low as they go adn i still find the mouse a tad to fast.  is there a way to make it go any slower? :<
[16:58] <Nogal> tbrown_2012: can you put it in a pastebin?
[16:59] <Nogal> tbrown_2012: copy it and paste it here http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[16:59] <xpheres> hello
[16:59] <xpheres>  I have a problem with ubuntu, some applications has started to be frozen everytime I open them, and I think it's a problem related to the os
[16:59] <xpheres> does anyone knows what can it be?
[17:00] <AngrySpam98> I set my mouse acceleration AND  sensutuvuty ti as low as they go adn i still find the mouse a tad to fast.  is there a way to make it go any slower? :<
[17:00] <xpheres> the apps mumble doesn't work
[17:00] <xpheres> it get frozen all the time
[17:01] <nydel> ddeathly: oh see you don't need rvm 1.9.3 you just need ruby 1.9.3 -- rvm is ruby's version manager.
[17:01] <nydel> ddeathly: i have an idea hold on
[17:01] <ddeathly> hmmm i updated to ruby 1.9.3 i think, let try anyway :)
[17:01] <ddeathly> nydel
[17:02] <nydel> ddeathly: sudo apt-get install ruby1.9.3
[17:02] <Alexxxya> guys, I need getlibs-all.deb for skype. Where do I find it?
[17:02] <ddeathly> already got it
[17:02] <AngrySpam98> i guess no thanks for ALL YOUR GREAT HELP
[17:02] <goblin_> AngrySpam98: u need to set a proper combination of both to get a good speed
[17:02] <goblin_> i have set the acceleration to about 3/4 of its highest value
[17:03] <goblin_> and the sensitivity a little less than that
[17:03] <ddeathly> nydel i already got it mate
[17:03] <goblin_> try if it works for u,
[17:03] <Nogal> angryspam98, none of us are getting payed for this. don't get angry.
[17:03] <nydel> ddeathly: did you have it before you installed metasploit?
[17:03] <ddeathly> nydel nope
[17:03] <ddeathly> nydel dont think so can rlly remeber
[17:04] <Nogal> tbrown_2012: I'm stepping out for a moment, if you need any more help then PM me so I get it.
[17:04] <suitcase> hello guys we are struggling to get single sign on because of this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/at-spi2-core/+bug/870874
[17:04] <ashfall> hi
[17:05] <ashfall> I'm getting a GPG error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011590/
[17:05] <ashfall> Earlier, I used to just do this in case of GPG errors:
[17:05] <ashfall> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011586/
[17:05] <ashfall> But now, when I try:
[17:05] <ashfall> sudo mv lists lists.old, I get this:
[17:05] <FloodBot1> ashfall: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:05] <ashfall> mv: cannot move `lists' to `lists.old/lists': Directory not empty
[17:05] <suitcase> does anyone know of any workarounds ?
[17:05] <nydel> ddeathly: i'd remove metasploit, make sure ruby is 1.9.3, then install metasploit again -- do it in verbose mode in case it fails
[17:05] <nydel> ddeathly: that'll at least give us more insight into why it's failing to notice ruby if it doesn't fix it altogether
[17:05] <ddeathly> nydel ok thanks, how would i remvoe it in verbose?
[17:05] <kion> why is my xorg.conf empty in 12.04?
[17:06] <ddeathly> nydel ok thanks man, what command do i use? :/
[17:06] <nydel> what did you use to install metasploit?
[17:06] <nydel> ddeathly:
[17:06] <xangua> !gpgerr | ashfall
[17:06] <tbrown_2012> nogal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011597/
[17:06] <ashfall> xangua: Thanks!
[17:06] <ddeathly> nydel the latest .run file
[17:06] <xangua> kion: there has no been a dedicated xorg.file since a long time
[17:06] <AngrySpam98> so why can i tickle my feet, but i cant scratch them when they itch? lmfao
[17:06] <nydel> ddeathly: try just doing it again with the .run file
[17:07] <kion> xanagua: so how do I configure my stuff?
[17:07] <ddeathly> nydel: ok will do :)
[17:07] <nydel> ddeathly: wait a sec, metasploit hasn't worked once yet right?
[17:07] <zamba> when using the dd method for cloning a disk to another, what happens with the new drive if it's much larger than the previous one?
[17:07] <zamba> i have to resize it afterwards?
[17:07] <ddeathly> nydel: nope
[17:07] <Nogal> tbrown_2012: try sudo ifdown eth0                sudo ifup eth0
[17:07] <theadmin> zamba: My idea is you'll get unallocated space, but I'm not sure
[17:07] <kion> xanagua:  I was trying to add a couple lines to my Nvidia Card configuration
[17:07] <nydel> ddeathly: ok yeah just do the run & see what happens, if it fails log the output for me
[17:07] <ddeathly> ok :)
[17:08] <ashfall> Err, How do I find the GPG keyword for a repository?
[17:08] <ddeathly> nydel now it tells me i need to be superser, even tho in my console i am set to root?
[17:09] <suitcase> zamba i think youll be fine it will create the disk/partition of the source with spare space in raw on the targetr
[17:09] <ashfall> If the error says " BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192" then the latter part is the key?
[17:09] <theadmin> ashfall: No, that's just the signature.
[17:09] <ddeathly> nydel: now it tells me i need to be superser? how i do tht?
[17:09] <theadmin> ashfall: Find the key where you found the repository.
[17:10] <xangua> (12:06:14) ubottu: ashfall: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) a
[17:10] <nydel> ddeathly: sudo
[17:10] <ddeathly> nydel:  kkty
[17:10] <Dj_FlyBy> how long should it take for a 10.04 livedvd to load fully on a P4 2.5Ghz with 512MB DDR 266 ram ?
[17:10] <ashfall> xangua: So I should assume its a standard one and go ahead?
[17:10] <Dj_FlyBy> I know 10.04 isn't supported anymore, but it is the only livedvd I currently have access to
[17:11] <theadmin> Dj_FlyBy: DVDs are slow :/ It will take a while
[17:11] <mommy71> ciao
[17:11] <mommy71> !list
[17:11] <Dj_FlyBy> theadmin: longer than 10-15 min (that's how long I've been waiting for so far)
[17:11] <BlouBlou> Dj_FlyBy: 3-5 minutes
[17:11] <theadmin> Dj_FlyBy: Eh... That sure is a lot...
[17:11] <theadmin> Dj_FlyBy: Doesn't sound right
[17:11] <ashfall> theadmin: "found the repository" ?
[17:11] <mneptok> Dj_FlyBy: 10.04 is supported. and load times depend on other hardware, too.
[17:12] <theadmin> ashfall: Well yes, if you have unofficial repositories you found them somewhere, right?
[17:12] <ashfall> No, I don't have unofficial repos, I just did I "sudo apt-get update"
[17:12] <ashfall> And got hte error
[17:12] <Dj_FlyBy> theadmin: that's what I was starting to think too.  mneptok:  it's an old system; P4 2.5Ghz with 512MB DDR266 ram
[17:12] <theadmin> ashfall: Well, for the official repos the key is 437D05B5
[17:13] <ashfall> theadmin: Alright, thanks. :)
[17:13] <ddeathly> nydel: i am getting pissed now lol ok when i double clikc tht file it says i need superser blahbalahblah whats the command to run from terminal msn?
[17:13] <ddeathly> man*
[17:13] <DrManhattan> aw yeah Dj_FlyBy old school netburst
[17:13] <shomon> hi, where could I get some help with gwibber?
[17:13] <theadmin> shomon: If you are running Ubuntu, here -- if not, eh... I think #gnome
[17:14] <nydel> ddeathly: get to the folder, inside a terminal
[17:14] <nydel> ddeathly: then sudo the run file from there
[17:14] <shomon> yeah I'm running ubuntu: how do I get rid of the hundreds of search and user tabs I've accumulated since I started using it?
[17:14] <shomon> it took ages to get running today.
[17:15] <ddeathly> nydel: i know i am a rigt pain in the ass, i dunno the commands, i may just give up, not fair on you xD
[17:15] <mneptok> ddeathly: language, please.
[17:15] <killer1> guys ....how to make windows iso bootable using ubuntu
[17:15] <ddeathly> mnetpok: sorry:(
[17:15] <DrManhattan> lol killer1
[17:15] <nydel> mneptok: sorry about language there
[17:15] <nydel> ddeathly: is the run on your desktop?
[17:16] <bastidrazor> killer1: burn it to a cd.
[17:16] <mneptok> nydel: excuse me?
[17:16] <Dj_FlyBy> DrManhattan: yea definitely old school, lol. Especially considering all I need this for is to copy data from a floppy disk to CD, lol
[17:16] <ddeathly> nydel: no in home folder
[17:16] <killer1> DrManhattan : i need to install windows for my family
[17:16] <killer1> right now i dun have cd or dvd.........only usb
[17:16] <nydel> mneptok: pardon?
[17:17] <DrManhattan> Dj_FlyBy, are you sure the system is functional? I've booted ubuntu on a system that old - maybe you ought to try out xubuntu or even puppy
[17:17] <tbrown_2012> Nogal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011621/
[17:17] <nydel> ddeathly what's the full filename
[17:17] <alibama> what channel should i go to for support with the grub loader not installing
[17:17] <DrManhattan> killer1, why ask here?
[17:17] <mneptok> nydel: i don't understand what language you used you feel warrants an apology.
[17:17] <ddeathly> nydel: metasploit-latest-linux-installer.run
[17:17] <killer1> bcoz....i need to make it bootable using ubuntu...:DrManhattan
[17:18] <alibama> it's a raid system and perhaps outside the purview of this channel
[17:18] <Dj_FlyBy> DrManhattan: the system is functional indeed. It was recently in use as a web server, but I upgraded the server to a newer system 2 weeks ago.
[17:18] <tbrown_2012> Nogal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011621/
[17:18] <nydel> mneptok: oh sorry it's my support ticket or whatever so i apologized, i just meant don't kick ddeathly
[17:18] <DrManhattan> killer1, best of luck with that :)
[17:18] <alibama> basically i screwed up by starting and then stopping the install
[17:18] <theadmin> shomon: Best idea is probably to remove the configuration directory entirely: find ~ -iname '*gwibber*' -exec rm '{}' \;
[17:18] <shomon> anyone know how to close all open search and user tabs in gwibber? or even one of them.. ah thanks theadmin :)
[17:18] <alibama> now my partitions apparently are botched and i need to fix them
[17:18] <shomon> cool.. will kill all gwibber related stuff though
[17:19] <shomon> it loves going at 100% cpu too
[17:19] <mneptok> ddeathly: just an observation here. please do not take offense. but you have spent at least 2 hours asking for help getting metasploit working. metasploit is an advanced tool, for advanced users. you need to learn to walk before you run.
[17:19] <nydel> ddeathly open a terminal, make sure you're in home (~) & type "sudo ./metasploit*"
[17:19] <Dj_FlyBy> DrManhattan: I know I 'could' try another livedvd, but I'm on a time restriction, sadly... so I don't have the time to download a new image
[17:19] <theadmin> shomon: Yeah indeed, actually the command I gave deletes ALL files/folders which have "gwibber" in the name inside your home directory -- I have no idea where exactly gwibber stores configs
[17:19] <nydel> mneptok: we'll go private
[17:19] <mneptok> ddeathly: wipe the system. install vanilla Ubuntu (or Kubuntu or Xubuntu or Fedora or some Linux) and spend at least a month learning the basics.
[17:19] <ddeathly> mneptok: i knwo this, i know how to use metasploit, but for some reason i am getting TOO MANY errors
[17:19] <tbrown_2012> Nogal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011621/
[17:19] <mneptok> nydel: keep support in the channel for everyone to read, please.
[17:20] <Dj_FlyBy> oh wait, I may have a really old Ubuntu laying around, a v7.x
[17:20] <oCean> nydel: please note that you do not "own" a problem, it is not "your" support issue
[17:20] <mneptok> ddeathly: no, you do not know this. you're asking for help with commands like "cd" and "ls"
[17:20] <beam> anybody know how to see hidden files in Gwenview?
[17:21] <nydel> mneptok: ok, i just think the nature of the problem is program installation, not whether metasploit is advanced
[17:21] <ddeathly> mnetpok: i have used metasploit in windows plenty of times, you said it is an advanced tool yes it is, i know how t use it, i am switching to linux becasue it is better for other tools i use, now i know i am asking the basics, but when i have thisinstalled i can learn the basics on ubuntu
[17:21] <nydel> oCean: that's why i used the modifier-phrase "or whatever" - i'm aware i don't work here or own anything
[17:21] <theadmin> nydel: Well mneptok is right -- for example, helping a user build a kernel when he thinks that the kernel is "uh, the thingy on top?" is pointless
[17:21] <shomon> ok may be a bit selective with that then theadmin. I hope it saves stuff as plain text
[17:22] <mneptok> ddeathly: i am telling you to learn to use Linux before installing stuff that does not come from your distro's easy-peasy repositories.
[17:22] <oCean> nydel: that's fine, we're all volunteers, and your support is welcome :)
[17:22] <theadmin> shomon: Should be either ~/.gwibber or ~/.config/gwibber honestly
[17:22] <nydel> oCean: thanks :)
[17:22] <d8bhatta> Hello, I am not able to see .htaccess file in either from netbeans or browsing folder...how can I access .htacess file to edit ?
[17:22] <shomon> it's .gconf/apps/gwibber
[17:22] <ddeathly> mneptok: and i am telling you that i want to get this installed,then i will continue learning the basics
[17:22] <shomon> but thanks theadmin
[17:22] <RBV> d8bhatta: You have to show hidden files
[17:22] <theadmin> shomon: Bah, gconf
[17:22] <d8bhatta> RBV, command pls?
[17:23] <mneptok> ddeathly: good luck.
[17:23] <Dj_FlyBy> DrManhattan: yea definitely old school, lol. Especially considering all I need this for is to copy data from a floppy disk to CD, lol
[17:23] <nydel> ddeathly: did you try "sudo ./metasploi*"
[17:23] <theadmin> d8bhatta: Enable showing hidden files. In Nautilus, Caja, ROX-Filer and most other filemanagers it's done with Ctrl-H, in Dolphin and Konqueror - Alt-. (alt+dot)
[17:23] <intrapata> mneptok :) your advice is good
[17:23] <ddeathly> mneptok: Thanks and i will probably need it,
[17:23] <ddeathly> nydel: no sorry was talking with mneptok willl try now
[17:23] <DrManhattan> Dj_FlyBy, hooray for usb flash drives?
[17:23] <RBV> It's going to depend on your application or file manager. Do 'ls -a' in your terminal to see
[17:24] <intrapata> guys any link for basic knowledges commands of linux? thanks,,, iam using ubuntu 12.4 now. iam new in here
[17:24] <d8bhatta> rbv: its not showing the file
[17:24] <nydel> ddeathly: after this, following mneptok's wise words, you could find a "linux shell scripting tutorial" - that could teach you all the basic commands in linux while also showing you how they work with each other.
[17:24] <RBV> Then it's not there
[17:24] <DrManhattan> intrapata, google is your friend man
[17:25] <DrManhattan> nydel, please share the same advice with intrapata :)
[17:25] <ddeathly> nydel: gives me more errors, maybe i should do as mneptok: said, Thanks for your help so much man ;) well off i go :( no pen-testing for me :@
[17:25] <d8bhatta> really! ..ok
[17:25] <theadmin> intrapata: Try "man intro", it will give you many basics
[17:25] <nydel> DrManhattan: lol i missed that completely
[17:25] <nydel> intrapata: one moment
[17:25] <intrapata> i apprciate  alot from you guys
[17:25] <intrapata> tnx nydel,
[17:25] <nydel> intrapata: http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/
[17:26] <DrManhattan> nydel, does that happen a lot in here? not you missing it but people coming in wanting to use ubuntu and not knowing the basics of the command line ?
[17:26] <beam> anybody know how to see hidden files in Gwenview?
[17:26] <intrapata> thanks.. will look at it now.
[17:26] <intrapata> tnx nydel
[17:26] <nydel> intrapata: very welcome
[17:26] <sbattey_> beam: Try #kde
[17:26] <KarateKip3> Hallow! I juts installed Ubuntu and I would like to know how I can open the Software Center, according to the tutorial on how to install Wine. I only see some icons to the left and a dropdown menu  in the top portion of the screen. None of them have a thin called Software Center
[17:27] <beam> under gnome?
[17:27] <theadmin> KarateKip3: It's an icon with some... packet with... things
[17:27] <DrManhattan> Hallowed be thy name.
[17:27] <theadmin> KarateKip3: Bah, whatevs, hit the Super key and type "Software Center", it will show up
[17:27] <nydel> DrManhattan: yes, almost constantly, i ignore the reported problem practically, & just point them at something when they get stuck. so long as learning is happening, they're closer to being able to do whatever they wanted to do.
[17:27] <ashfall> theadmin: I tried that, I'm still getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011637/
[17:27] <sbattey_> beam: Gwenview is kde software, anything youdo with it is te same even under gnome  try #kde
[17:27] <nydel> karakedi: super key is windows key
[17:28] <sbattey_> Why do they call it the super key? Ne'er has it done anything super...
[17:28] <DrManhattan> because it's super!
[17:28] <beam> where i put this #kde
[17:28] <intrapata> haha
[17:28] <nydel> sbattey_: propose another name for it :)
[17:29] <sbattey_> Beam its an irc channel. Type /join #kde
[17:29] <DrManhattan> if you hit the super key 100 times, you develop super powers.
[17:29] <intrapata> ubuntu 12.4 is debian right? nydel?
[17:29] <theadmin> sbattey_: I guess this keyboard is the origin: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Space-cadet.jpg
[17:29] <BlouBlou> intrapata: all ubuntu versions are based on debian
[17:29] <sbattey_> nydel: Windows key.
[17:29] <nydel> intrapata: that's a complicated question. but yes.
[17:29] <theadmin> intrapata: Wrong. Almost entirely wrong. Ubuntu is based on Debian Testing, however, Ubuntu is NOT Debian and is NOT compatible with Debian (most of the time)
[17:30] <BlouBlou> it's not debian, but a os based on debian testing
[17:30] <beam> but i am with gnome and blackbox
[17:30] <intrapata> ohh
[17:30] <DrManhattan> i was quite impressed with how quick and easy the alternate dvd installed a zoneminder system
[17:30] <beam> i use eog but tray gwenview
[17:30] <mratlas> Hey all, I've been hearing a lot about creating a separate /boot partition for a dual boot installation but can anyone explain why it will be a benefit?
[17:30] <nydel> i didn't realize the cross-compatibility was that bad, theadmin
[17:30] <sbattey_> beam: It doesn't matter. The people who PROGRAMED gwenview are sitting idle in #kde. Go there
[17:31] <WarOfTheNerd> theadmin, not true.  Ubuntu is based on Debian Unstable, except for Ubuntu LTS versions, which are based on Debian Testing.
[17:31] <DrManhattan> mratlas, I've been wondering for a while why it makes a difference.
[17:31] <intrapata> so its not totaly debian at all,,, wwell ido my own research for it and consider both theadmin and nydel ,answer,,  ^)^
[17:31] <beam> ok
[17:31] <DrManhattan> if the drive crashes the drive crashes, it isnt like having a different partition would make a difference
[17:31] <theadmin> WarOfTheNerd: Oh, how weird -- I never realised that. Huh.
[17:31] <nydel> DrManhattan: i'm encouraged by people asking complex questions yet not knowing basic commands - it means ubuntu is starting to look like a practical alternative operating system in the eyes of the public, is what i think.
[17:31] <Dj_FlyBy> DrManhattan, LOL. I love flash drives, but trying to explain what a flash drive is to this client is just plain nuts. He is 72 and barely knows how to even work a PC.
[17:31] <theadmin> WarOfTheNerd: Inconsistent much.
[17:31] <WarOfTheNerd> theadmin, also Debian and the Ubuntu LTS versions are compatible for commercial software when LSB packages are installed - just not for Debian's repos
[17:32] <DrManhattan> nydel, yeah especially for servers or for basic internet surfing and the such
[17:32] <nydel> WarOfTheNerd: that was my understanding
[17:32] <DrManhattan> Dj_FlyBy, I hope the client is paying you well - and you SHOULD be able to run ubuntu on that
[17:33] <theadmin> WarOfTheNerd: Well, the repos are what I meant, individual packages may be compatible well enough
[17:33] <hellox> which dvd iso is only 1.5G
[17:33] <intrapata> iam learning ubuntu then will jump to btk nydel and <DrManhattan>
[17:33] <hellox> it should be as large as 3GB more even more
[17:34] <WarOfTheNerd> theadmin, that's totally correct, adding Debian Testing repos would be suicide unless apt-pinning is used to lower its priority below that of the corresponding Ubuntu repos
[17:34]  * DrManhattan pokes intrapata in the eye :P
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[17:34] <mratlas> DrManhattan, good point. But i were to make the separate /boot partition would i have to do any extra configuration when installing the second OS to recognize that as its /boot?
[17:35] <nydel> DrManhattan: computers are pretty much for myface.c0m, audio/video playback & document handling (for 99% of users) -- isn't that about right? am i leaving anything out?
[17:35] <theadmin> WarOfTheNerd: Makes sense, obviously.
[17:35] <nydel> intrapata: we're happy to have you aboard! linux is a wonderful operating system & ubuntu is my favorite distribution.
[17:35] <WarOfTheNerd> nydel, Skype, MSN, oh and photos
[17:36] <jdix123> I'm having some trouble with updates and my repositories.  can anyone help?
 thanks ,, hehe,, yah i love ubuntu coz its more user friendly than any other linux distribution, i used to try slitaz etc. but,, ubuntu is veygood for me, so i wipe my windows then installed Ubuntu, back to zero ^_^
[17:37] <oCean> intrapata, nydel please remember to use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chit-chat
[17:38] <nydel> WarOfTheNerd: right, live messaging & photography
[17:38] <intrapata> oCean, sorrt O.T.
[17:38] <nydel> oCean: thanks, slap me when i do that
[17:39] <nischay> Guys help me My ubuntu 12.04 takes too much time to shutdown and start :(
[17:39] <graft> wasn't nydel using this for general chit-chat?
[17:39] <graft> the definition of "general" sometimes eludes me
[17:39] <intrapata> haha
[17:39] <theadmin> So, I heard Canonical has stopped sponsoring Kubuntu, what's all that about, what's their reason? I haven't found out in time, but it's interesting
[17:39] <darkblue_b> hi all- I have a new Precise machine, and I just tried to add the package ethtool - it says cannot be verified and stops, but no clue as where I might get a key??!?
[17:39] <oCean> theadmin: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place for that
[17:39] <theadmin> graft: This channel = Ubuntu-related *support* questions, #ubuntu-offtopic = anything else
[17:40] <oCean> ^
[17:40] <theadmin> oCean: Oh, thanks, well not going there, sorry (it's a bit... *too* offtopic most of the time). Sorry, thought this *could* qualify as a support question, but guess not
[17:40] <graft> oh... heh, sorry, thought i was in offtopic
[17:41] <graft> theadmin: http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/02/canonical-ending-support-for-kubuntu-reassigning-lead-developer-1/
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> darkblue_b, does it give a key in a apt-get install from the terminal
[17:41] <jdix123> I'm having trouble with the Scribus and Skype repositories, and a few others fetching properly when I run apt-get update
[17:41] <darkblue_b> wilee-nilee: no - thats why ask here..
[17:42] <whoami> is using 'dd' a recommended way of cloning a hard drive?
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> darkblue_b, you used the terminal? generally the missing key shows and can be loaded
[17:44] <darkblue_b> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011661/
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> darkblue_b, did you try the y=yes
[17:46] <darkblue_b> no
[17:46] <KarateKip3> nydel and theadmin: thnx, i will try
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> darkblue_b, do that it is in my synaptic with a ubuntu symbol net to it I think safe.
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> next*
[17:47] <darkblue_b> thats flawed
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> darkblue_b, what is flawed is your understanding of the setup basically. :)
[17:48] <darkblue_b> I am supposed to say "Yes install this security software without verirification"
[17:48] <darkblue_b> really
[17:49] <Dj_FlyBy> wow.... 7.10 doesn't even detect my floppy drive, lol
[17:49] <TPB_se> Is there like a tool to let me set my bandwidth cap for a period of time?
[17:49] <darkblue_b> can we just find the key .. where do I ind out how to get a key for this package?
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> darkblue_b, If it is not from a 3rd party you have added the repos are safe, it is prbably a 3rd party ubuntu has added.
[17:49] <TPB_se> I don't wanna go overboard, if you know what I'm talking about.
[17:51] <darkblue_b> instead, I just tried   apt-get source ethtool
[17:51] <darkblue_b> and now the msg is different
[17:51] <darkblue_b> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011676/
[17:51] <TPB_se> Any such software?
[17:52] <darkblue_b> so, how do I find  RSA key ID 95861109
[17:52] <darkblue_b> ??
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> darkblue_b, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys key here
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> darkblue_b, put the key at key here.
[17:54] <darkblue_b> ok - thank you
[17:54] <DrManhattan> is there a v4l interface for my dvb device?
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 95861109
[17:54] <j605> hi
[17:55] <DrManhattan> im using a cx23885 pci-e card - hauppauge hvr-1250 - and I'd like to be able to watch tv with tvtime, or access the card with zoneminder
[17:55] <darkblue_b> well that looked promising, but the package ethtool must have another key.. that key must be for the source code
[17:55] <darkblue_b> same failure to install ethtool..
[17:55] <j605> i wanted to know how to import java libraries installed using apt-get
[17:56] <DrManhattan> darkblue_b, thats very odd, ethtool installs here with no effort. just apt-get install ethtool
[17:56] <Dj_FlyBy> Success! Finally.....
[17:56] <darkblue_b> I thought it odd as well
[17:56] <ashfall> I used  "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3E5C1192", but I'm still getting the same GPG error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011637/
[17:56] <xclusive585> just test ignore
[17:57] <xclusive585> just test 2 ignore
[17:57] <darkblue_b> ethtool is absolutely a target for a malicious hack
[17:57] <DrManhattan> ?
[17:58] <ashfall> I found this on the forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1869890, but doesn't seem to work for me. :(
[17:58] <DrManhattan> its just a tool to check out your NIC
[17:58] <DFrostedWang> What can I do if a mod is being an assbag?
[17:58] <darkblue_b> it has complete knowledge and access to your network cards
[17:58] <DrManhattan> DFrostedWang, you can either stfu or get a long list of proxies.
[17:59] <DFrostedWang> He banned me bc he thought my name broke the rules about something or other.
[17:59] <oCean> DrManhattan: do not use those acronyms in this channel
[18:00] <darkblue_b> thats networking terminology.. stfu.. it refers to a special network node status
[18:00] <ashfall> If I delete the contents on lists.old/lists, will I mess things up?
[18:00] <DrManhattan> well, that was pleasant.
[18:00] <ashfall> *on = of
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> ashfall, have you confirmed that this ppa has your distro available.
[18:01] <theadmin> DFrostedWang: Try TOR.
[18:01] <DrManhattan> I gotta find that peer that disconnects me
[18:01] <darkblue_b> how could I find out where a key for the ethtool package might be, or else say that there is something fishy going on ?
[18:01] <ashfall> wilee-nilee: How do I do that?
[18:01] <darkblue_b> I get lost in the ubuntu repo system.. I dont understand it
[18:01] <DrManhattan> darkblue_b, I'd say the latter, thats a pretty standard and easy thing to install
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> ashfash if it is a ppa google it
[18:02] <darkblue_b> DrManhattan: thats what I say!  and someone here told me to go ahead and instal without a key !!
[18:02] <hellox> ubuntu dvd iso is bullshit:(
[18:02] <DrManhattan> darkblue_b, i never needed keys to install standard stuff.
[18:02] <morri> I am on version 11.10 can i add the repos for 12.04 without upgrading the system to 12.04 without running into any problems?
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> ashfall, what is the release you are running?
[18:03] <Myrtti> hellox: please, lets keep the language clean
[18:03] <ashfall> wilee-nilee: Ubuntu 11.10
[18:04] <darkblue_b> I dont want to spend my whole day on this one thing.. all I can say is that I have a brand new Ubuntu Precise server install, and I went to look into the network cards on that box, and I went to install ethtool, I get a "cant be verified" msg and no way I can see to find a key
[18:04] <darkblue_b> its just wrong to install that sort of tool without verification
[18:05] <darkblue_b> I dont even like security but I know that
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> ashfall, did you add this, if you run the HTTP in the browser it is not a download site.
[18:05] <xclusive585> test 3 ignore
[18:05] <Myrtti> theadmin: do you have a minute for a pm?
[18:05] <oCean> xclusive585: please use #test channel for that
[18:06] <theadmin> Myrtti: Sure do
[18:06] <pooltable> help i not sure where to look firefox i have a tube stop installed but when i go to you tube it play well i hear the audio but no viedo how do i fit it ??
[18:07] <ashfall> wilee-nilee: Did I add what? The http shown in the error is "http://extras.ubuntu.com/" and it opens fine...
[18:07] <pijush> looking vb alternative for ubuntu !
[18:07] <darkblue_b> perhaps I can download a .deb from somewhere
[18:07] <DrManhattan> darkblue_b, if you can't just type in apt-get install ethtool, there's something wrong with your install.
[18:08] <darkblue_b> I would gladly fix my install if I had a clue how to start
[18:08] <Crazyerror> hi all, i wonder if someone can assist me , im loving Ubuntu 12.04
[18:08] <WarOfTheNerd> Crazyerror, sure, what's the issue?
[18:09] <Crazyerror> problem im haing is ,,, when i put my audio on my pc.. at 80% volume, the audio cuts as if it cant handle the volume ?
[18:09] <DrManhattan> darkblue_b, do you have a lot of critical info on your current instuall?
[18:09] <Crazyerror> its on all music. and videos
[18:09] <darkblue_b> which critical info ?
[18:09] <WarOfTheNerd> Crazyerror, right click the speaker icon and go on the sound settings
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> ashfall, I will say that, that sort of error is common, so not sure really.
[18:09] <WarOfTheNerd> Crazyerror, move the slider to the point where it says Unamplified
[18:09] <DrManhattan> wow. Never mind darkblue_b. I'm sure youll get it worked out eventually.
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> ashfall, you might try another mirror
[18:10] <WarOfTheNerd> Crazyerror, anything above that causes amplification which can cause audio cut-off
[18:10] <Crazyerror> warofthenerd
[18:10] <Crazyerror> sorry, i dont see unamplified
[18:10] <darkblue_b> DrManhattan: maybe I dont understand what you are asking there
[18:11] <Guest16022> So ,I just booted Windows 7 on my second HDD and I rly dont get it why flash in firefoc and google chrome is so slow compared to Ubuntu 12.04 (lxde)  :/
[18:11] <WarOfTheNerd> Crazyerror, not even on output? :|
[18:11] <Guest16022> thats only barrier to completly go to linux
[18:11] <DrManhattan> darkblue_b, ok - is there any reason you wouldn't want to just reinstall Ubuntu and perhaps not bork your system up this time?
[18:11] <Crazyerror> i got Volume output...  bar looks like this  - hold on
[18:11] <darkblue_b> DrManhattan: ohh - reinstall.. hm I have a bunch of Postgres setup already
[18:12] <ashfall> wilee-nilee: I found 3 ways to tackle this, and none of those work...
[18:12] <shomon> can you get ubuntu on an 8 year old mac?
[18:12] <shomon> or only via virtualbox or that kind of thing?
[18:12] <DrManhattan> darkblue_b, ok, then you're going to have to figure out what's wrong with your updates. What happens when you type in apt-get install ethtool?
[18:13] <ashfall> wilee-nilee: If I try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1850930, It says "lists.old/lists" is not empty. Can I make it empty and then try this?
[18:13] <theadmin> shomon: If it has a supported architecutre, probably. If it's PowerPC, I think there is *some* support
[18:13] <Orpheon> I need some help. Whenever I execute Starcraft 2 nowadays, my internet connection strangely seems to die with 10 seconds of loging in, and nothing short of restarting modem and router can bring it back. I have wired connection, and have used starcraft 2 a year ago withotu problems. Ideas?
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> shomon, ubuntu needs a gig of ram you have that?
[18:13] <darkblue_b> DrManhattan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011661/
[18:14] <WarOfTheNerd> Crazyerror, the alternative is to load up Terminal/Console and run alsamixer, then ensure that PCM is set to -6.00db
[18:14] <DrManhattan> darkblue_b, install it without verification.
[18:14] <shomon> thanks theadmin and wilee-nilee - I'll check for those things.
[18:14] <darkblue_b> there is no key .. ?
[18:15] <darkblue_b> I didnt expect that could be the case..
[18:15] <DrManhattan> darkblue_b, again, install it without verification.
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> shomon, cool good luck you might get away with a mini cd install which is a net install with a superlight DE, hard to say
[18:15] <darkblue_b> ok guys - this didnt go so well.. I appreciate a support channel but this case isnt making sense to me at all
[18:16] <DrManhattan> darkblue_b, its that hard to understand "install it without verification"?
[18:16] <darkblue_b> thats not context or rationale or clues, thats just a directive
[18:16] <darkblue_b> how can there be no key ?
[18:17] <DrManhattan> darkblue_b, on my system, it doesn't even ask for keys.
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> darkblue_b, I think it is a really old build from what I can tell, nobody is using it probably
[18:17] <Crazyerror> waronthenerd.... ill show u image ... what i see
[18:17] <darkblue_b> that makes some sense
[18:18] <darkblue_b> ok, all for now .. take care
[18:18] <Crazyerror> waronthenerd ,,, http://i.imgur.com/XofcW.jpg
[18:19] <theadmin> !tab | CrazyEddy
[18:19] <theadmin> Bah... Epic fail of all times
[18:19] <theadmin> !tab | Crazyerror
[18:19] <theadmin> CrazyEddy: Sorry about that.
[18:19] <IloveBSDandWindo> Windows kernel design is better than Linux, in my opinion.
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> ashfall, I don;t really understand the question, I never use a old list I just have one that always works, I have been at tis awhile.
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> this*
[18:20] <pijush> guys, i'm looking for a alternative of vb for ubuntu, is there something?
[18:20] <theadmin> IloveBSDandWindo: This is not an "opinions" channel. Also, unless you are a Microsoft employee, you have no idea about the Windows kernel, most likely meaning you don't know what you're saying.
[18:20] <ashfall> wilee-nilee: I am talking about the solution described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1850930
[18:20] <theadmin> pijush: If VB is Virtualbox, that's available for Ubuntu
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> ashfall, which post by number please?
[18:21] <IloveBSDandWindo> It can't even run BSD, can it? That's a shame.
[18:21] <sbattey> Ars reviewed the latest version of ubuntu here: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/precision-and-purpose-ubuntu-12-04-and-the-unity-hud-reviewed/
[18:21] <ashfall> wildc4rd: #2
[18:21] <Spudster> Can somone help me with an iscsiadm question?  I have an iscsi initiator with about 20 iscsi targets, after a reboot, the /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc mappings re-arrange themselves to different drives, is there any way to make this more static?
[18:21] <ashfall> err wilee-nilee
[18:21] <ashfall> post #2
[18:21] <milen8204> #chromium
[18:22] <pijush> theadmin: vb= visual basic
[18:22] <Crazyerror> WarOfTheNerd: ... am i missing something?
[18:22] <IloveBSDandWindo> Solaris will eventually destroy Linux.
[18:22] <Crazyerror> if i leave the bar at 100 % audio cuts out, where do i fix this ? cos some songs and movies are a bit soft .
[18:22] <IloveBSDandWindo> Besides what can Mint do that Ubuntu can't?
[18:22] <theadmin> pijush: Bah. Mono can run CLR assemblies (which is what Visual Basic compiles to), and you can develop VB with MonoDevelop.
[18:23] <theadmin> IloveBSDandWindo: Please move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:23] <pijush> thanks theadmin!
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> ashfall, not sure I have never had to do that so I can't really confirm this. It may be that the HTTP is just throwing a error it is common, it may be the mirror your using. THe terminal will say things that are generic errors that are not completely accurate, with no real details at times.
[18:23] <ashfall> wilee-nilee: So what do you suggest I do?
[18:24] <theadmin> pijush: Or wait, that'd be VB.NET. Sorry, not sure about plain VB.
[18:24] <pijush> i'm a .net developer too!
[18:25] <usuario1> kk
[18:25] <theadmin> pijush: Well, Mono is the Linux .NET (there's also DotGnu, but that's not as popular)
[18:25] <usuario1> Ola¿.-
[18:26] <ashfall> wilee-nilee: I am very much tempted to just empty the contents of lists.old/lists and do what's suggested there, but I'm scared I'll mess something up...
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> ashfall, I wold go to the software center-edit to the software sources run the change to fins the fastest server, I don't think it is a problem to be honest.
[18:26] <imneveral0ne> hello, new linux user. can anyone help me with a mouse problem? when i try to right click it does a left click instead. both buttons just do a left click.
[18:26] <usuario1> ESO K ES
[18:26] <imneveral0ne> this is on a touchpad not a mouse
[18:26] <usuario1> TIO
[18:26] <usuario1> ALGUIEN HABLA
[18:26] <Crazyerror> does anyone know of a good editing program, like windoze - Sony vegas
[18:26] <pijush> theadmin: thanks theadmin
[18:26] <usuario1> O K
[18:26] <chadi> Folks, is there a way to add window list in unity? That's the only way it can be usable.
[18:26] <FloodBot1> usuario1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> usuario1, english?>
[18:27] <usuario1> ¿?
[18:27] <imneveral0ne> anyone? please lol
[18:27] <imneveral0ne> mouse problem is driving me nuts
[18:27] <shomon> usuario1, please try #ubuntu-es
[18:27] <theadmin> chadi: Err, the window list is on the left side (the thing there is most similar to the Windows 7 taskbar, if that tells you anything)
[18:27] <Dark-chc> usuario1,  pone /join  #ubuntu-es
[18:27] <usuario1> Espanihs?
[18:28] <theadmin> !es | usuario1
[18:28] <chadi> theadmin: I dislike that. I want the classic window list (gnome2 like)
[18:28] <usuario1> #ubunto-es¨
[18:29] <andygraybeal> i can't find too much information on moving from Vista's "Windows Mail" to "Thunderbird" (or significantly awesome email client)  can anyone help me?
[18:29] <in0cula> I use Ubuntu because i don't want to use proprietary software, is there here someone here that use it for other reason rather than mine??
[18:29] <usuario1> no entiendo
[18:29] <usuario1> jajajaj
[18:29] <andygraybeal> i wan tot move from windows to ubuntu for a friend
[18:29] <theadmin> chadi: You can use the GNOME3 fallback mode. Also, GNOME2 is still possible to install on Ubuntu, you might want to try that: http://mate-desktop.org . Also, Xfce is a good choice.
[18:29] <usuario1> yes yes
[18:29] <usuario1> jajajaja
[18:29] <usuario1> xD
[18:29] <Dark-chc> usuario
[18:30] <pijush> "thepiratebay" is banned in india , is there any way to view that site without using proxy server in ubuntu
[18:30] <theadmin> pijush: Sorry, illegal activities are not supported here.
[18:30] <pijush> i'm sorry
[18:31] <newbie|2> hai guys
[18:31] <ejv> not to be /that/ guy, but there's legal content on thepiratebay; it's just a tracker
[18:31] <shomon> tor and i2p are usually ways to get around censorship.
[18:31] <Flannel> andygraybeal: Windows Mail used to be called Outlook Express, so any of the information on moving from OE to Thunderbird should be relevant.
[18:31] <shomon> but they'll probably be blocked too
[18:31] <newbie|2> what is tor?
[18:31] <nibbler_> hi. how would i convert broken utf-8 characters back to proper utf-8? Ã¼ is everywhere wehre a "ü" should be... :/
[18:32] <chadi> theadmin: the reason I am asking is that I have a touch screen on my laptop, and unity is extremely not touch screen friendly. Does that have a solution? (btw, the screen can handle at most 2 touch locations)
[18:32] <andygraybeal> Flannel, okay.. what i've read so far says.. to load up Thunderbird and a wizard will help me transfer it.. but it doesn't.  When i manually run the 'wizard' it doesn't seem to recognize Windows Mail is even there.  this is why i'm baffled.  Maybe I'm just rediculously confused.  I've already told myself I would never work on a MS Windows machine again.. but he wants to move to Ubuntu, so I'm doing it.
[18:33] <theadmin> nibbler_: There is iconv if that's of any help (tool to convert between encodings), try: iconv -t UTF-8 FILENAME
[18:33] <kunji> pijush: generally speaking I think you would need a proxy, I hear there are a number of free proxies (if you trust them), but I would recommend convincing a tech savvy relative in another country to setup a private proxy server just for you ^_^
[18:33] <nibbler_> theadmin, don't think that helps, as my file is currently in no proper encoding :/
[18:33] <EliahKagan> theadmin: since there's plenty of non-infringing content on thepiratebay, what are you referring to as "illegal activity"?
[18:33] <reisio> nibbler_: shouldn't matter
[18:34] <Flannel> andygraybeal: you're looking for the mail? or the settings?
[18:35] <kunji> Is it really banned in India?  As in illegal, or as in the ISPs block it and it is frowned upon?
[18:35] <Orpheon> I need some help. Whenever I execute Starcraft 2 nowadays, my internet connection strangely seems to die with 10 seconds of loging in, and nothing short of restarting modem and router can bring it back. I have wired connection, and have used starcraft 2 a year ago withotu problems. Ideas? Ubuntu 12.04, 64-bit, wine version 1.4
[18:35] <Orpheon> oops, confused newline for bold
[18:36] <nibbler_> reisio, theadmin, does not work: http://nopaste.dk/p5143
[18:36] <pijush> kunji: yes it is!
[18:36] <reisio> nibbler_: -f iso-8859-1
[18:37] <andygraybeal> Flannel, the actual messages.. right now i'm exporting them from Windows Mail to a file.. and i'll see if i can deal with that with Thunderbird.
[18:37] <Dj_FlyBy> Success! Finally..... Flopp
[18:37] <theadmin> nibbler_: Hm... I suggest you find out what the ord() of that character is, and replace any characters matching that with u
[18:37] <pijush> kolkata high court ordered, to all isp in india. not only PB lots of site
[18:37] <nibbler_> reisio, http://nopaste.dk/p5144
[18:38] <nibbler_> reisio, theadmin: guess i'll write a script to fix that and learn some about utf-8 meanwhile :/
[18:38] <jragon> For some odd reason when I try and run the live cd it gets to the loading screen then the dots just keep rolling. After hitting escape I noticed it was hangin on udevd[168]: timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sdb' [734]. When booting into windows it goes through the booting screen and then it gets to a black screen with a cursor on it, then after about 3 seconds it restarts.
[18:38] <Flannel> andygraybeal: There's a thunderbird extension which may help (I've never used it): http://nic-nac-project.de/~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html  You might want to talk to the thunderbird people, #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org
[18:39] <Flannel> andygraybeal: As they'll have a much better chance of having a canned solution that theyve already used, etc
[18:39] <reisio> nibbler_: oh sorry
[18:39] <kunji> Orpheon, SCII under wine?  I can never seem to get much of anything working well under wine, that is bold.  Do you have mouse lag then, I would always get bad mouse lag with wine even with BW
[18:40] <reisio> nibbler_: the char is actually already utf-8
[18:40] <andygraybeal> Flannel, awesome bro. thank you for the tip
[18:40] <reisio> nibbler_: whatever you're viewing it in is interpreting it as iso-8859-1
[18:40] <reisio> nibbler_: at least if we can trust nopaste.dk to have not meddled
[18:41] <jackson_> Hi I need some firmware for my Gateway computer. Could someone help me out?
[18:41] <nibbler_> reisio, check http://nopaste.dk/p5146
[18:41] <reisio> jackson_: not with that info alone
[18:42] <reisio> nibbler_: I'm not really sure 'file' is reliable for such things
[18:42] <reisio> nibbler_: isutf8 from moreutils would be, though
[18:42] <reisio> although that would confirm what I just said, that it's utf-8 already
[18:42] <reisio> perhaps it's your terminal/editor that is mis-encoding
[18:42] <nibbler_> reisio, it should be, i echoed öäü into that file, and its 7 bytes now. that means its clearly utf-8
[18:43] <shaneo> any plexmediaserver users in her
[18:43] <shaneo> e
[18:43] <reisio> if you say so :)
[18:43] <nibbler_> reisio, i belive i had a utf-8 file, that got interpreted as iso and as such converted to utf8, converting both bytes of the origninal utf-8 to a singular utf-8 character itself
[18:43] <i7c> how can i change those shortcuts like Super+T  opens trash on unity? (12.04) is there some tool to edit them? because the shortcuts section in system settings does not have any effect on this?
[18:44] <pijush> jackson_: emplane
[18:44] <nibbler_> reisio, 3 ascii character plus the \n should be 4 byte, 3 utf-8 characters, all of them being >128, should be 7byte or more?
[18:45] <reisio> nibbler_: isutf8 would make it a certainty, but it doesn't matter really
[18:45] <reisio> the question is why it's showing as iso-8859-1
[18:45] <Drajwer> what is the best way to install python2.6 in ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[18:45] <nibbler_> reisio, i belive both the special characters are utf-8 encoded by them self
[18:46] <nibbler_> reisio, the file is 5 byte in size, so i'd assume its 2 utf characters
[18:46] <reisio> Drajwer: the best way would be not at all
[18:46] <nibbler_> reisio, i reduced it to only the 2 broken chars
[18:46] <reisio> nibbler_: you think it was converted twice
[18:46] <reisio> that'd be unfortunate
[18:47] <jragon> Have you any idea what I should do to fix trhis?
[18:47] <nibbler_> reisio, yep, converting it the other way works ;-)
[18:47] <jdvaughn> ok. here we go again.... I need some firmware for a Broadcom BCM9431MPG(802.11B/G) wireless card. Any ideas?
[18:47] <Drajwer> reisio thanks for your input
[18:48] <reisio> jragon: ...this what?
[18:48] <jragon> For some odd reason when I try and run the live cd it gets to the loading screen then the dots just keep rolling. After hitting escape I noticed it was hangin on udevd[168]: timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sdb' [734]. When booting into windows it goes through the booting screen and then it gets to a black screen with a cursor on it, then after about 3 seconds it restarts.
[18:48] <jragon> Basically I can't boot
[18:48] <nibbler_> thanks for your help reisio and theadmin. its still not perfect, but i'm a huge step further ,-)
[18:48] <nibbler_> bye
[18:48] <ashfall> wilee-nilee: Tried that, Again the same error "The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192". It is just not able to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/Release.
[18:48] <rocket16> Hello guys. I need some help with DVDs. I have all restricted formats installed, and have run that css command too. My desktop running Ubuntu 12.04 plays the DVD without any problem, but my laptop can't. :( No DVD menu comes up on laptop, and as a matter of fact, I can;t also play flv videos. Any help?
[18:48] <angs> is there any user that has higher privilege than root?
[18:48] <reisio> nope
[18:48] <WarOfTheNerd> angs, no
[18:49] <jdvaughn> nope
[18:49] <WarOfTheNerd> angs, the kernel itself has root but has more privileges internally
[18:49] <WarOfTheNerd> angs, but it runs all its threads as root
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> ashfall, and I think you had tried the key fetch right with this key?
[18:49] <ashfall> yes. :(
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> ashfall, not sure really
[18:50] <ashfall> Tried the key-fetch, tried changing mirror, tried the move lists to lists.old thing.
[18:50] <jdvaughn> can anyone help me out with my b43 wireless firmware?
[18:50] <ashfall> wilee-nilee: Alright, should I just let it be? is it an important module which *needs* to be updated?
[18:51] <i7c> how can i change those shortcuts like Super+T  opens trash on unity? (12.04) is there some tool to edit them? because the shortcuts section in system settings does not have any effect on this?
[18:51] <ashfall> Also, why isn't my 11.10 automatically suggesting and upgrade to 12.04? Just wondering.
[18:51] <reisio> i7c: which version of Ubuntu?
[18:51] <ashfall> *and = an
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> ashfall, not sure to be honest this does not happen to me I only know those areas really.
[18:51] <i7c> reisio: 12.04 LTS
[18:52] <jdvaughn> thats the beauty of linux
[18:52] <reisio> i7c: whoops sorry you said didn't you :p
[18:52] <i7c> ;)
[18:52] <ashfall> wilee-nilee: Alright, thanks anyway. :)
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> np
[18:53] <jdvaughn> Hey does anyone have experience with older wireless cards?
[18:53] <EuroNerd> I want to install the full LAMP stack on my Ubuntu Desktop. Some web tutorials show how to install Apache, MySQL etc separately, some just show apt-get install lamp-server^.  Which one is a better idea?
[18:54] <reisio> i7c: several solutions here http://www.google.com/search?q=how%20to%20change%20shortcuts%20in%20unity but keep in mind this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/995885
[18:54] <reisio> jdvaughn: irrelevant
[18:54] <axisys> failing to burn dvd with brasero.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011773/
[18:54] <axisys> what gives?
[18:54] <jdvaughn> sorry bro. this is my first time using irc
[18:54] <i7c> reisio: thx. so there is gonna be a fix for this soon? :)
[18:55] <reisio> EuroNerd: I don't think you'll find a package 'lamp-server'
[18:55] <zamba> i'm cloning /dev/sda to /dev/sdb using dd in a live-cd session.. it has now been running for well over an hour.. how long is it supposed to take?
[18:55] <ejv> EuroNerd: follow the primary documentation @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[18:55] <ashickur-noor> @EuroNerd sudo apt-get install lamp-server phpmyadmin
[18:55] <reisio> EuroNerd: IMO it's a better idea to know what is going on, by installing things specifically
[18:55] <slonopotamus> suppose i have repo A and installed some packages from it. after that, i enable repo B that has newer paclages than repo A and do "apt-get upgrade". then, i change my mind and what to revert packages to latest versions from repo A, effectively pretending as if repo B never touched my system. what steps are required besides removing repo B?
[18:55] <zamba> just a ballpark figure?
[18:55] <reisio> zamba: depends on the size of the drive
[18:55] <reisio> zamba: what bs options you gave it
[18:55] <reisio> zamba: etc.
[18:55] <zamba> reisio: the source is 80 GB
[18:55] <reisio> zamba: is it Windows?
[18:55] <zamba> reisio: i just did dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
[18:55] <zamba> reisio: nope
[18:56] <reisio> zamba: generally it's a waste of time to dd Unix systems
[18:56] <EuroNerd> reisio, check for yourself, just note the "^" character at the end.
[18:56] <reisio> zamba: since they're so easy to reconfigure for changed hardware (unlike Windows)
[18:56] <OerHeks> slonopotamus, use ppa-purge
[18:56] <jdvaughn> Where do I find firmware for my b43 wireless card? Can I install it off of a flash usb drive?
[18:56] <reisio> EuroNerd: check what?
[18:56] <reisio> jdvaughn: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22b43%22%20site%3Ahelp.ubuntu.com
[18:56] <zamba> reisio: someone in here suggested to do 'dd'
[18:56] <zamba> reisio: what's the alternative?
[18:56] <EuroNerd> ashickur-noor, thanks.  Some tutorials also show how to install LAMP with sth called "taskel". Is that better or worse?
[18:56] <reisio> zamba: someone is wasting your time :/
[18:57] <jdvaughn> thanks! :)
[18:57] <reisio> zamba: rsync -av /mnt/source mnt/destination
[18:57] <ashickur-noor> @EuroNerd I am not sure
[18:57] <ashickur-noor> I always use that thing
[18:57] <EuroNerd> reisio, type sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ into your terminal - there is such a thing.
[18:57] <zamba> reisio: what about grub?
[18:57] <reisio> zamba: however FFR, using the bs option for dd will speed things up, if you use it right
[18:57] <reisio> zamba: what about it? You can reinstall it from virtually any Linux live OS
[18:57] <ejv> !lamp
[18:57] <zamba> reisio: well.. grub isn't something i'm very comfortable with
[18:57] <reisio> zamba: frequently with a single command: grub-install
[18:58] <zamba> reisio: well.. you have to specify target and stuff?
[18:58] <slonopotamus> OerHeks: thanks, looking at it...
[18:58] <reisio> EuroNerd: must be an alias for a group of packages
[18:58] <ejv> yea, just follow the docs. :)
[18:58] <OerHeks> jdvaughn, all i had to do is sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[18:58] <EuroNerd> perhaps
[18:58] <reisio> zamba: it's almost always the first device: grub-install /dev/sda
[18:58] <ejv> yes it's a meta package just like "build-essential"
[18:58] <OerHeks> jdvaughn, and reboot after that.
[18:58] <jdvaughn> Thanks a million man!!!!!! :)
[18:58] <reisio> zamba: you can always dd just the MBR, though, if you want
[18:58] <reisio> zamba: that will take mere seconds
[18:59] <barakat> is there any way in ubuntu 12.04 to toggle the behavior of "alt-tab" to the old timey ways? (o ye and remove the "desktop" option from it if at all possible)
[18:59] <zamba> hm, maybe just abort this, then
[18:59] <zykotick9> ejv: tasksel stuff typically aren't "packages"
[18:59] <OerHeks> jdvaughn, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/b43
[18:59] <zamba> and do rsync instead
[18:59] <jdvaughn> I was just reading that. Thanks anyway!
[18:59] <ejv> which is why i used the word "meta" zykotick9 :)
[18:59] <zamba> oh.. cooooome on
[18:59] <zamba> it was at 78 GB
[18:59] <zamba> and the disk was 80 GB :p
[18:59] <reisio> ejv: build-essential is actually listed at packages.ubuntu.com
[18:59] <zamba> fsck
[19:00] <ejv> reisio: hi mate, yea build-essential is simply a reference to all packages needed to compile software, it's not "real"
[19:00] <reisio> barakat: if there's a compiz option for it yes, otherwise you'd have to change wm
[19:00] <reisio> ejv: it seems realer than lamp-server, which is not listed
[19:01] <zamba> how much swap do i need?
[19:01] <reisio> just a difference in abstraction approaches, I s'pose
[19:01] <zamba> i have 3 GB ram on an ubuntu server
[19:01] <ejv> i've never installed apache2/php/mysql using any meta packaging; i prefer to install them one at a time
[19:01] <reisio> zamba: no more than 3
[19:01] <zykotick9> ejv: meta-packages are quasi-real, calling tasksel "meta" packages is misleading
[19:01] <reisio> ejv: agreed
[19:01] <ejv> just like the docs suggest (re: installing them one by one) hehe
[19:02] <jragon> Anybody noes what I've done to break it, or how I can fix it?
[19:02] <reisio> jragon: break what?
[19:02] <jragon> For some odd reason when I try and run the live cd it gets to the loading screen then the dots just keep rolling. After hitting escape I noticed it was hangin on udevd[168]: timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sdb' [734]. When booting into windows it goes through the booting screen and then it gets to a black screen with a cursor on it, then after about 3 seconds it restarts.
[19:02] <jragon> It normally boots just fine...
[19:02] <jragon> reisio^^
[19:02] <ejv> for some reason 12.04 LTS is much slower than 10.04 LTS, how do I fix? :)
[19:02] <reisio> zamba: rsync should be about as fast as cp, but more reliable, it's even resumable if interrupted
[19:02] <stueng> how to list all installed packages from terminal pls ?
[19:03] <zykotick9> stueng: all packages eh?
[19:03] <reisio> stueng: dpkg -l
[19:03] <stueng> ta
[19:03] <pgib> hello guys. I'm having trouble with pulseaudio-module-jack.  I would like for my pulseaudio applications to be routed through jack.  I installed this module.  However, I do not see any way to tell pulse to output to jack or vice-versa.  Ideas?
[19:03] <zamba> reisio: sweet
[19:04] <reisio> that is, you just run the same command again, and it'll resume from where it was
[19:04] <zamba> i'm setting up the partition table on the new disk.. two primary partitions.. one at 295 GiB and the other at 3 GiB for swap.. that's ok, right?
[19:04] <zamba> or should i do extended partitions?
[19:04] <reisio> and if you're paranoid you can run it again after it finishes and it'll finish real fast
[19:04] <ejv> 300G of swap is better o:-)
[19:04] <reisio> zamba: sounds fine
[19:04] <zamba> hehe
[19:04] <ejv> funny story i actually did that once, doh :)
[19:05] <zamba> what about LVM?
[19:05] <reisio> zamba: you can squeeze more out of a server by specializing (mostly via FS choice) different parts of the system on different partitions
[19:05] <reisio> zamba: but that takes lots of research
[19:05] <ejv> LVM is cool, adds a layer of complexity you may not really need
[19:05] <reisio> zamba: LVM is good if you think you'll be making changes
[19:05] <reisio> (to the partitions)
[19:05] <warpino> hi there
[19:05] <zamba> nah, not to this partition
[19:05] <jdvaughn> howdy!
[19:06] <ejv> just can't use xfs; they don't support shrinking; only growth
[19:06] <reisio> warpino: hiyo
[19:06] <reisio> ejv: interesting
[19:06] <zamba> but i have four hard drives.. 2 IDE drives at 320 GB and 2 SATA drives at 250.. so 4 in total.. and i want to get most out of these four
[19:06] <warpino> do you know why multi-arch is not enabled for some packages?
[19:06] <reisio> can't say I'd choose xfs anyways :p
[19:06] <zamba> how would you suggest setting them up?
[19:06] <warpino> I'm trying to install libncurses5-dev:i386
[19:06] <ejv> reisio: it's a good fs, gets the job done; for lvm, definitely ext3/4
[19:06] <warpino> and it tries to uninstall a bunch of things on ubuntu pp 12.04
[19:07] <reisio> zamba: well you could use LVM to abstract that into one device
[19:07] <reisio> zamba: or FS
[19:07] <reisio> zamba: but if you don't have a backup system in place you should probably dedicate one or two to that
[19:07] <zamba> reisio: what's FS?
[19:07] <reisio> file system
[19:08] <reisio> device > partition > file system
[19:08] <jdvaughn> GeekSquid: Hi
[19:08] <reisio> LVM can abstract the first two for the last
[19:08] <The_BROS> There is a problem of connection to repositories. What is the problem?
[19:08] <zamba> reisio: is it possible to get redundancy here as well?
[19:08] <reisio> The_BROS: can you ping them?
[19:08] <reisio> zamba: yes, but RAID is tricky and hard on drives
[19:09] <jdvaughn> Am I supposed to get an absurdly long delay before start when I try to boot from a usb drive?
[19:09] <zamba> reisio: hm?
[19:09] <reisio> zamba: you might want to read up on it and try it later on
[19:09] <zamba> reisio: i have set up software raids before
[19:09]  * reisio shrugs
[19:09] <warpino> is there a way to install libncurses5-dev:i386 without removing things?
 How? It was working yest, bot now I see errors only
[19:09] <reisio> I'd say to really safely use RAID you'd want more disks
[19:10] <reisio> The_BROS: today is a new day
[19:10] <ActionPa1snip> jdvaughn: when you are booted, run:  dmesg | less     then scroll down with cursors and look for large gaps in the time on the left
[19:10] <zamba> maybe i'll just set up each pair of disk into its own raid-0, striping
[19:10] <zamba> and forget about the redundancy
[19:10] <ActionPa1snip> zamba: how ironic :)
[19:10] <zamba> ActionPa1snip: what is?
[19:10] <reisio> zamba: as long as you think the data will survive one disk croaking
[19:11] <ActionPa1snip> zamba: using raid-0 and forgetting about redundancy
[19:11] <jdvaughn> ActionPa1snip: Could you walk me through this? Im trying to install v12.04 for the first time
[19:11] <dawids> ...
[19:11] <daviddoria> If I go to the K menu and type 'image', the first thing in the list is "Image Viewer". How do I determine the name of this executable so I can run it from a terminal? I tried im[tab] in a terminal, but there are no matches
[19:11] <zamba> ActionPa1snip: raid-0 is striping, right?
[19:11] <OerHeks> jdvaughn, live iso on USB can take up to 4-5 min to boot.
[19:11] <zamba> ActionPa1snip: meaning i won't have any..
[19:11] <reisio> AKA not raid :p
[19:11] <zamba> true :)
[19:11] <ActionPa1snip> zamba: exactly, but the R in raid stands for 'redundant'
[19:11] <zamba> ActionPa1snip: hehe, ok
[19:11] <jdvaughn> OerHeks: My machine has been sitting idle for the last 10
[19:12] <zykotick9> ActionPa1snip: what does the I stand for? ;)
[19:12] <reisio> it is redundant, but not redundant enough
[19:12] <zamba> unless you have some other smart way of using 2x250 and 2x320
[19:12] <jdvaughn> OerHeks: It is about a thousand years old, though
[19:12] <reisio> nor is it disks
[19:12] <ActionPa1snip> zamba: raid-0 technically isn't raid, it just uses the same technology and disk accessing :)
[19:12] <reisio> zykotick9: inexpensive/independent
[19:12] <haylo> LjL, you op troll muting is troll oping
[19:12] <haylo> cmon just ban me if you have a problem- that rude
[19:12] <reisio> you can skip the I, redundant array of disks
[19:12] <OerHeks> jdvaughn, as long as there is usb led activity, and caps lock works, hold on !
[19:12] <zykotick9> reisio: :) nice to see you presented both versions
[19:13] <reisio> zykotick9: IKR :p
[19:13] <ActionPa1snip> jdvaughn: md5 test the ISO, use unetbootin to make the USB device, boot to USB
[19:13] <jdvaughn> OerHeks: No led, no hdd activity
[19:13] <Myrtti> haylo: please take it to pm or -ops, you should know better than to do your laundry here
[19:14] <jdvaughn> ActionPa1snip: Thats well over my head, I'm afraid. Any fix will have to be on a pretty basic level :(
[19:14] <haylo> fine Myrtti but i dont like muting
[19:14] <imbezol> 17061 imbezol   20   0 2979m 1.8g 6012 S    0 22.7  12:23.33 nm-applet
[19:14] <haylo> i should have been kicked
[19:14] <EuroNerd> My 12.04 no longer takes log-in screen background from my account wallpaper but uses the standard violet one. How do I get it back?
[19:14] <imbezol> this network manager applet seems to be crazy on the memory consumption
[19:14] <haylo> il just leave
[19:14] <zamba> maybe set up a 4x250 raid-5 and then set up the last as a 70 GB raid-1?
[19:14] <zamba> and then use lvm on top of that?
[19:14] <jdvaughn> EuroNerd: I so hate that
[19:14] <imbezol> 3 gigs virtual
[19:14] <zamba> to get 750+70 GB total disk space?
[19:14] <imbezol> 1.8 resident
[19:14] <zamba> but still with redundancy?
[19:15] <outsyncof> hi, i'm very new to linux I was wondering if anybody could assist
[19:15] <outsyncof> my vlc video is choppy when playing m4v files
[19:15] <zykotick9> imbezol: really?  that's insanity.
[19:15] <zamba> reisio: what are your thoughts on that?
[19:15] <jdvaughn> Outsyncof: I'm pretty much in the same boat :/
[19:15] <zamba> or is that a different raid level altogether?
[19:16] <zamba> raid-7? :)
[19:16] <jdvaughn> outsyncof: I'd be happy do do what I can
[19:16] <zykotick9> outsyncof: you could try mplayer+vdpau if you have nvidia
[19:17] <outsyncof> jdvaughn: i really like VLC :( I was really hoping to stick to linux this time around but i always have an issue w/ one thing or another
[19:17] <EuroNerd> OK, so an easier question: What's the name of the program/package that deals with 12.04 log-in UI.
[19:17] <zykotick9> EuroNerd: lightdm
[19:17] <jdvaughn> outsyncof: vlc works on linux
[19:17] <jdvaughn> anyone correct me if im wrong
[19:17] <netmk> EuroNerd: lightdm
[19:17] <EuroNerd> zykotick9, thanks
[19:18] <netmk> oops.
[19:18] <EuroNerd> netmk, roger
[19:18] <netmk> heh yeah, sorry didn't see he had already replied
[19:19] <outsyncof> jdvaughn: its working, its just choppy especially during action scenes
[19:19] <jdvaughn> outsyncof: how fast is your computer?
[19:20] <outsyncof> jdvaughn: quad core AMD
[19:21] <jdvaughn> outsyncof: nice machine :)  I'm afraid I'm lost on this one. Sorry :(
[19:21] <outsyncof> jdvaughn: do you happen to know how i can play DVDs back
[19:22] <XiRoN> How can I install libnet0 dev onto my ubuntu system?
[19:22] <outsyncof> jdvaughn: do i have to install anything extra
[19:22] <ActionPa1snip> EuroNerd: lightdm
[19:22] <jdvaughn> outsyncof: you have a dvd drive right? or are you trying to play a movie from your hard drive?
[19:23] <xangua> !dvd | outsyncof
[19:23] <jdvaughn> ubottu: :)
[19:23] <ZenMaster> Hi guys, I am trying to get graphics acceleration on my Dell PowerEdge 2800.
[19:23] <ZenMaster> I believe it is a ATI-7000//
[19:23] <outsyncof> i have a DVD drive
[19:24] <XiRoN> Does anyone know how I can install LIBNET0 DEV onto my ubuntu system?
[19:24] <ZenMaster> I was recommended checking out additional drivers. but that shows nothign.
[19:24] <jdvaughn> outsyncof: You may have to got to media...open disc...select your disc, etc
[19:24] <outsyncof> i have VLC but it doesnt seem to be playing DVDs
[19:24] <imneveral0ne> can someone help me get my clock from 24 to 12 hour format?
[19:25] <ncopa> hi, my wife is unhappy with ubuntu. her netbook has only 1 G ram (not possible to expand)
[19:25] <theadmin> ncopa: Lubuntu or Xubuntu
[19:25] <ncopa> she has used ubuntu for years, but the last 2-3 releases have been close to useless
[19:25] <reisio> :D
[19:25] <ncopa> will she be able to manage that?
[19:25] <jdvaughn> ncopa: you could try a distro thats lighter on system resources
[19:25] <reisio> ncopa: follows the typical DE paradigm
[19:26] <reisio> ncopa: Lubuntu (with LXDE) would be the "lightest", at least initially
[19:26] <ncopa> needs to user friendly enough for her
[19:26] <ActionPa1snip> XiRoN: I can only find the one from Hardy which is obsolete
[19:26] <reisio> ncopa: menu, taskbar, file manager, same things
[19:26] <jdvaughn> ncopa: have you tried that? It will likely run much faster
[19:26] <XiRoN> So I can't install it?
[19:26] <ActionPa1snip> ncopa: ubuntu minimal + fluxbox + slim = lightest
[19:26] <ActionPa1snip> :)
[19:27] <reisio> probably more light than he'd want, though :p
[19:27] <ncopa> i know how to build a lightwight distro (I build alpine linux)
[19:27] <ncopa> but i need something that wife can manage
[19:27] <ncopa> thus ubuntu
[19:27] <ncopa> you think she will manage lubuntu?
[19:27] <ncopa> wifi just works?
[19:28] <ncopa> how can she install apps?
[19:28] <ncopa> etc
[19:28] <xangua> ncopa: if you are using unity with compiz, you could try unit2d
[19:28] <xangua> unity2d
[19:28] <jdvaughn> I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu 12.04 from a usb stick but my computer just stays at the ubuntu screen with the scrolling dots. No cpu usage, no hdd usage. Help?
[19:28] <OerHeks> ncopa, try Xubuntu
[19:28] <ncopa> apt-get install unity2d?
[19:28] <reisio> ncopa: Lubuntu is Ubuntu (Debian) with LXDE
[19:28] <ncopa> i ran xubuntu on the family desktop, no good...
[19:28] <jdvaughn> ncopa: you could also try a cloud-based distro
[19:28] <reisio> ncopa: almost everything is the same, it's just lighter
[19:29] <reisio> ncopa: what was no good about it?
[19:29] <jdvaughn> reisio: its hideously ugly, in my opinion (not that you asked for it...)
[19:29] <ActionPa1snip> ncopa: same as ubuntu
[19:29] <ncopa> not the same plug-and-play level as ubuntu triaditionally has had
[19:29] <ncopa> (i use xubuntu myself)
[19:29] <ncopa> screen config etc
[19:29] <ncopa> not as polished
[19:29] <garlic> ok I'm about to install windows 7, I'v alread got ubuntu 12.04 installed on my drive
[19:29] <jdvaughn> ncopa: oops. sorry :(
[19:30] <chadi> folks, is it possible to create a new task by shift + click
[19:30] <reggie_> I downloaded the Ubuntu Studio Wallpapers package but I can't for the life of me find where they get placed
[19:30] <jdvaughn> garlic: when you go to install ubuntu you can format partitions before install
[19:30] <ncopa> whats the meta package name for lubuntu?
[19:30] <xangua> ncopa: or you could try unity2d instead of unity for lighter
[19:30] <reisio> lubuntu-desktop
[19:30] <garlic> I'm wondering if I should install windows at the beginning of my drive partition or after ubuntu
[19:30] <reisio> ncopa: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu
[19:31] <xangua> reggie_: tried usr/share/backgrounds ¿
[19:31] <garlic> basically does it matter where I install windows7
[19:31] <jdvaughn> garlic: after ubuntu, definitely
[19:31] <ncopa> xangua, will try that. thanks!
[19:31] <reisio> garlic: shouldn't technically matter, but Windows will appreciate being installed first
[19:31] <jdvaughn> garlic: windows is not equipped to handle dual boot setups
[19:31] <ncopa> thanks for useful feedback
[19:31] <reisio> and by that I mean: you'll have slightly less work for yourself
[19:31] <garlic> jdvaughn: so my partition should look like .. windows7 then ubuntu12.04 then the swap .. right?
[19:31] <breekbot> ##python-friendly
[19:32] <breekbot> join ##python-friendly
[19:32] <kunji> garlic: which partition before or after isn't terribly important, which order (time) you install in can make it easier or harder (may need to reinstall grub if you install windows after ubuntu)
[19:32] <jdvaughn> garlic: exactly! :) hope it helps
[19:32] <garlic> kk
[19:32] <garlic> thanks
[19:33] <reggie_> xangua, nope I don't see them there, although I do see all the regular Ubuntu Backgrounds
[19:33] <jdvaughn> hey guys im still waiting for my flash drive to boot and ive been sitting here for an hour and getting old. SOS!
[19:34] <zykotick9> reggie_: you might try "dpkg -S PACKAGENAME"
[19:34] <ncopa> hum.. unity2d uses qt. how can that use less ram?
[19:35] <jdvaughn> hello? anyone??
[19:35] <xangua> ncopa: it doesn't use compiz efects
[19:35] <reisio> jdvaughn: nobody knows what you want
[19:37] <outsyncof> anybody have ideas regarding DVD playback? its not playing for me in VLC
[19:37] <jdvaughn> Hello world: How do I make my computer move past the initial splash screen with the scrolling dots? Im trying to boot from usb and nothing happens. Do i need to edit something in the BIOS?
[19:37] <kunji1> outsyncof: something isn't playing in vlc?  but... doesn't it play everything?
[19:37] <jdvaughn> kunji1: we should sue
[19:38] <zykotick9> kunji1: only mplayer plays everything ;)
[19:38] <outsyncof> m4v videos are choppy
[19:38] <ncopa> xangua: but i will end up with both qt libs and gtk libs in mem
[19:38] <EuroNerd> My 12.04 no longer takes log-in screen background from my account wallpaper but uses the standard violet one. How do I get it back?
[19:38] <outsyncof> and dvds arent playing lol
[19:38] <kunji1> outsyncof: have you tried installing the non free dvd codecs?
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> jdvaughn, what does the text say when it stops
[19:38] <xangua> outsyncof: did you download libdvdread And aldo run the install script described in  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs  ¿
[19:38] <ncopa> xangua: do you have any numbers for unity2d ompared to compiz?
[19:39] <jdvaughn> wilee-nilee: I get no text besides the "ubuntu" in the middle of the screen
[19:39] <xangua> ncopa: yes, i am using it right now and my pc doesn't heat and use less memory compared to unity-compiz
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> jdvaughn, so you think a freeze then, have you tried nomodeset?
[19:40] <reggie_> zykotick9, thanks! That got it!
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> jdvaughn, if you hit the up arrow you might get the actual text.
[19:40] <jdvaughn> wilee-nilee: Im suspecting a freeze. How do I force the install to continue?
[19:40] <zykotick9> reggie_: glad to help
[19:40] <waxstone> my computer randomly freezes when I use the default installed firefox on 12.04. Having no issues when using Chromium. Can anyone help me solve this?
[19:41] <jdvaughn> wilee-nilee: im not getting a command line interface im getting a splash screen
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> jdvaughn, hit the arrow key on the keyboard the up one and see if you get actual text, never seen anyone run a force here.
[19:42] <jdvaughn> wilee-nilee: i tried that
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> and'
[19:42] <kunji1> libsyncof: I would go through the medibuntu repository section here: http://debianhelp.wordpress.com/2012/03/09/to-do-list-after-installing-ubuntu-12-04-lts-aka-precise-pangolin/
[19:42] <jdvaughn> wilee-nilee: should i shut down and reboot into recovery mode?
[19:42] <toscho> hi
[19:43] <jdvaughn> toscho: hi
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> jdvaughn, we are not communicating
[19:43] <toscho> since some days ago, my printer stopped printing some documents I created with latex
[19:43] <jdvaughn> wilee-nilee: i concur
[19:43] <toscho> correctly
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> jdvaughn, their is no recovery from a usb
[19:43] <toscho> he prints until the first occurence of math formulas
[19:44] <jdvaughn> wilee-nille: lets start from the beginning: I went to boot my computer from usb and try to reenstall, and it froze
[19:44] <ncopa> what i dont get with unity is that its designed for small screens (typical netbook) but uses so much resources that its useless for netbooks
[19:44] <reisio> ncopa: I believe someone mentioned unity 2d
[19:45] <reisio> really only an issue for netbooks without decent graphics, though
[19:45] <ncopa> the graphics is good
[19:45] <ncopa> intel chipset
[19:45] <ncopa> new computer
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> jdvaughn, so why how did it install the first time, same distro, same usb?
[19:45] <ncopa> the problem is memory usage
[19:45] <ncopa> i'll try unity2d once wife reboots back from win7
[19:45] <reisio> intel isn't usually what people call "good" :p
[19:45] <reisio> non-problematic, to be sure
[19:45] <reisio> but not impressive, not typically
[19:45] <reisio> or at least not historically
[19:45] <ncopa> works very well with unity
[19:46] <ncopa> compiz etc
[19:46] <reisio> yes it does
[19:46] <jdvaughn> wilee-nilee: i had ubuntu installed already, but I could not boot because of a missing graphics driver when I installed version 12.04, so I tried to reinstall from usb
[19:46] <reisio> non-problematic
[19:46] <ncopa> the problem is memory
[19:46] <reisio> that's because your intel is onboard
[19:46] <reisio> and hasn't its own memory, most likely, to speak of
[19:46] <reisio> which is why people don't usually consider it "good" :D
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | jdvaughn you mention a graphic driver maybe the freeze is a missing driver look at this link
[19:47] <ncopa> *shurg* the linux support is good
[19:47] <kunji1> jdvaughn: you get the GRUB menu before that don't you?  Or the boot menu for the live USB?  In either case there should be a way to turn off the quiet boot (though I don't recall how to right now), then you can probably get some error text at least.
[19:47] <ncopa> what annoys me is that it starts to swap while playing games (due to software updater kicks in)
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> kunji1, remove the splash entry from the kernel
[19:48] <ncopa> and software center eats tons of rma
[19:48] <jdvaughn> kunji1: i have the grub boot menu up now, running off of the hard drive
[19:48] <jdvaughn> kunji1: im trying to reinstall
[19:48] <reisio> play a lot of intense games on your 1GB RAM netbook, do you? :D
[19:48] <ncopa> nope
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> jdvaughn, use the safeboot from the rceovery then that may get you in.
[19:48] <reisio> not sure that's what they're for
[19:48] <blackcosteau> Can anyone answer me a question? I configured a script to disable my trackpad. What I  have recently noticed is that the xinput list shows the value to have changed from 15 to 12. Would anyone know why?
[19:48] <jdvaughn> wilee-nilee: here goes...............
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> jdvaughn, safe boot or something like that
[19:49] <ncopa> it works perfet and wife is happy with her puzzle games in wine - til sofware updater eats up the mem
[19:49] <ncopa> and start swapping
[19:49] <blackcosteau> quit
[19:49] <reisio> blackcosteau: you plugged another usb device in
[19:49] <kunji1> Mmmk, yeah, what wilee-nilee said most likely, I wasn't clear if you had installed grub to the usb and you were going to run off that, or if it was the intall/live usb
[19:49] <reisio> ncopa: heh
[19:49]  * Telg is away: Away
[19:50]  * Telg is back (gone 00:00:02)
[19:50] <TomSlominski> Hi. I'm struggling to connect my HTC Hero running 2.1 to adb. Got adb installed and running, it just can't see my device. I've created a rule for udev.
[19:50] <reisio> Telg: TMI
[19:50] <jdvaughn> wilee-nille: i have the recovery menu up now. theres a list of boot options: resume normal boot, clean, dpkg, root, etc. where do i go from here?
[19:50] <reisio> TomSlominski: adb?
[19:50] <TomSlominski> reisio, android debug bridge, included with the android SDK
[19:50] <waxstone> my computer randomly freezes when I use the default installed firefox on 12.04. Having no issues when using Chromium. Can anyone help me solve this?
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> jdvaughn, I think there is a low graphics choice there I forget the name though.
[19:51] <waxstone> jdvaughn,  press e and edit kernal line adding nomodeset
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> jdvaughn, this 12.04?
[19:51] <jdvaughn> wilee-nilee: yup
[19:52] <jdvaughn> waxstone: ill try that. wish me luck......
[19:52] <waxstone> add near quiet splash
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> jdvaughn, I would use the nomodeset from the regular kernel as waxstone suggests, the bot link shows you exactly how.
[19:52] <reisio> TomSlominski: ah
[19:53] <jdvaughn> wilee-nilee: ok. thanks!
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> jdvaughn, if you got to a cli you can remove the old driver as well I just don't know the commands.
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> never had a nvidia myself
[19:54] <jdvaughn> wilee-nilee: i wouldnt be able to use them, im afraid. my command line knowledge is nonexistent :( thanks anyway
[19:54] <escott> waxstone, any pattern to when it freezes? flash games? webgl?
[19:55] <TomSlominski> hang on, i need to reboo
[19:56] <EuroNerd> what's a nice ftp server, working out of the box?
[19:56] <escott> EuroNerd, ftp must die
[19:56] <tomreyn> hi, i'm on 12.04 and the system doesn't check for updates, and thus never notifies me about any updates becoming available. how can i fix this?
[19:57] <escott> EuroNerd, if you can just use sftp in the openssh server
[19:57] <DeltaHeavy> EuroNerd: vsftp although SFTP via SSH is better.
[19:57] <jdvaughn> ok, well, its getting pretty late. thanks for the help everyone! God Bless
[19:57] <EuroNerd> thanks
[19:58] <D[4]ni> meh. rhythmbox-client doesn't work correctly. :<
[19:58] <D[4]ni> --print-playing-format="%td" should return the track duration, but returns nothing instead
[19:58] <ActionPa1snip> tomreyn: are you fully updated?
[19:59] <stueng> in /etc/network/interfaces, typically I have auto eth0 etc... whats the opposite of auto eth0? I want ot bring this interface up manually
[19:59] <ActionPa1snip> stueng: just leave the line out and it won't come up automatically
[19:59] <DeltaHeavy> D[4]ni: More times than not it's working fine, it's your usage of it.
[19:59] <csilk> Is there anyway to change the font size in the eclipse package viewer without changing the OS fonts?
[19:59] <tomreyn> ActionPa1snip: i'm not sure about how it is right now. but something seems rotten when i have used to gui to configure daily checks fpr upgrades and then don't get a notification for a week.
[20:00] <stueng> cheers AP
[20:00] <tomreyn> ActionPa1snip: ... and then when i check for updates manually get a huge chunk of them.
[20:00] <D[4]ni> DeltaHeavy: rhythmbox-client --print-playing-format="%td" returns an empty string, while %te works correctly (returns the elapsed time of the track)
[20:00] <Slackline> you guys, why all the areas where I'm able to resize , minimize and close windows have just vanished ?? disappeared ??
[20:00] <Bodsda> Hi guys - is there any known issues with 12.04 and encrypted wifi networks - A mate of mine is having issues where it continually asks for the password but never connects. We have confirmed that the wifi card works fine on unsecured networks
[20:01] <tomreyn> ActionPa1snip: the problem is that if i check for updates manually now then i destroy my test case
[20:01] <ActionPa1snip> tomreyn: run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:01] <ActionPa1snip> tomreyn: ah
[20:01] <ActionPa1snip> tomreyn: there is an option to check for updates and stuff
[20:01] <csilk> Bodsda, I've had that with all versions of Ubuntu on all hardware. Try resetting the router and removing the wifi network from your config
[20:01] <DeltaHeavy> D[4]ni: Are you sure you're not overlooking any condition on when that must be called? If it can be used on your specific codec? Look for example usage of it.
[20:02] <tomreyn> ActionPa1snip: can you be more specific? where is said option and what should it be set to?
[20:02] <waxstone> escott: no pattern. I first though it was related to movies or having multiple windows open but then  a few times ubuntu froze as it opened after booting up.
[20:02] <Zelest> This might be the wrong place to ask, but when using mdadm, is it safe to run --assemble to detect/"link" an existing raid setup, or does it write anything to the disks?
[20:02] <escott> waxstone, how hard a freeze is it? do keys like numlock light up? can you REISUB (see !sysrq)?
[20:02] <D[4]ni> DeltaHeavy: i found the information in man rhythmbox-client. there's nothing more than "%td    track duration" there
[20:03] <escott> Zelest, i believe that is safe
[20:03] <vexaxv> does anyone use hulu desktop on ubuntu 12.04?
[20:03] <xangua> tomreyn: in the update manager - preferences - update tab ; make sure is not marked as Never check
[20:03] <D[4]ni> one possible problem could be that i'm playing music directly from my iphone... but rhythmbox itself displays the correct lengths
[20:04] <waxstone> escott, I never looked for lights but i can't reach any terminals. i.e. CTRL+ALT+F1. Keyboard and mouse  freeze
[20:04] <Bodsda> csilk: ok, just tried removing references to the network, rebooted router, still no joy
[20:04] <escott> !sysrq | waxstone try this
[20:04] <tomreyn> xangua: it's set to check for updates daily
[20:04] <Slackline> anyone ?please
[20:05] <kunji1> Does anyone know why a connection to mediatomb streaming a video might disconnect, it seems that it's just my desktop disconnecting from the router for just a second, but I have never had this problem before.  I know that question is awfully general...  Since I was having this problem I attempted to see if it was just the usb wireless adapter for my desktop going bad by connecting through another computers wireless instead (forwarding the 
[20:05] <D[4]ni> just checked with a local file - iphone is NOT the problem.
[20:05] <waxstone> escott, I definitely try that trick as I hate forceing a shut down. should I try to freeze now to test?
[20:05] <csilk> Bodsda, resetting the router always worked for me. I never managed to diagnose what was causing the issue though
[20:05] <kunji1> Did Slackline as a question?  I don't see it.
[20:05] <vexaxv> anybody use hulu desktop???
[20:05] <Bodsda> csilk: ok, thanks
[20:06] <freeday> hulu , lol
[20:06] <Karkara> Salutations, brothers in arms! Just recently I've been getting this annoying bug: "Process /usr/bin/totem [also 'totem-video-thumbnailer'] was killed by signal 7 (SIGBUS)". It happens whenever I try to open the default video player or Banshee. Any ideas on how to solve that?
[20:06] <Slackline> you guys, why all the areas where I'm able to resize , minimize and close windows have just vanished ?? disappeared ??
[20:06] <escott> waxstone, if you are in the mode to try and check sure. you can look at things like /var/log/syslog when you get back and see if there is anything listed
[20:06] <Slackline> kunji1,
[20:06] <freeday> i got toorent
[20:06] <xangua> tomreyn: well there are not always updates daily if what you want is the update manager to pup up daily
[20:06] <waxstone> escott, well I definitely prefer firefox so here goes
[20:07] <tomreyn> xangua: i have a couple PPAs, too, and ffor me, there should be updates daily
[20:07] <tomreyn> xangua: it really just does not run apt-get update.
[20:07] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : i restarted ubuntu after upgrading but its not starting up : give compiz error
[20:08] <tomreyn> xangua: everything after that would work: i get notifications, and can then install those updates
[20:08] <baazigar|rajat> Darael : i am working from backup now
[20:08] <kunji1> Slackline: What do you mean disappeared?  Can't you do it from the edges?  Or do you mean they're just really small now?  I wouldn't know, that would be one for the GUI Ubuntu devs, not sure if they frequent here much or not.
[20:08] <eian> I installed and purged an installation of mysql-server.  I am trying to reinstall it now but apt won't rebuild the default config file - How do I get the default config again?
[20:09] <D[4]ni> Slackline: that happened to me once too. are you using wine?
[20:09] <Slackline> kunji1, yes, there is no more a bor for that
[20:09] <Slackline> D[4]ni, yhes
[20:09] <eian> This is probably some generic command for apt packages but I don't know which one
[20:09] <Slackline> yes
[20:10] <D[4]ni> Slackline: some windows program probably used the DwmExtendFrameIntoClientArea api - logging out and in again and stopping using the application that calls that should help
[20:10] <ActionPa1snip> eian: tried:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename
[20:10] <RyuGuns> Simple question: Is it possible for a program to make itself run on startup without root privileges?
[20:10] <eian> Action, I haven't tried that yet - will do so now. Thanks!
[20:10] <rrva> hi! I want to slim down on memory usage on my ubuntu precise laptop. What the best route to go? I use gnome3 desktop but there are waaay to many processes running after I did a default install. There are many things I personally do not need. Any common guides on what packages to purge?
[20:10] <ActionPa1snip> RyuGuns: yes, add it in your startup applications (available in dash)
[20:11] <Slackline> D[4]ni, which app woult that be ?
[20:11] <ActionPa1snip> rrva: install lxde, log off and boot into LXDE
[20:11] <D[4]ni> Slackline: i don't know, what do you run in wine?
[20:11] <RyuGuns> ActionPa1snip: Thanks.
[20:11] <RyuGuns> One more..
[20:11] <rrva> ActionPa1snip: I like gnome-shell. Is lxde similar for the wm?
[20:11] <RyuGuns> Is Avast! for linux any good?
[20:11] <freeday> apt-get remove --purge package
[20:12] <ActionPa1snip> rrva: you imagine you can use gnome-shell on top of lxde
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> !virus| RyuGuns
[20:12] <Slackline> D[4]ni, this is happening when I start up, nothing is being started up with wine ,
[20:12] <zykotick9> rrva: you could start with mini cd, and built up your system (to reduce the ubuntu-cruft)
[20:12] <kunji1> Slackline:  You can probably restart the window manager without logging in and out (if that causes a window manager crash? D[4]ni? I don't know what that api call does, but also can't you disable it in wine?), but I don't have the issue and don't have wine installed right now.. so I can't really test it out.
[20:12] <ActionPa1snip> RyuGuns: its ok, there are others too. You don't need AV for a regular desktop you know
[20:12] <Slackline> it really happened after I upgraded
[20:12] <rrva> zykotick9: I already have an installed system which I want to reduce from (precise)
[20:13] <zykotick9> rrva: understood, but i'd say you are doing this backwards
[20:13] <kunji1> Slackline: ah, nvm, you might need to reinstall your window manager if it's happening at boot.
[20:13] <Slackline> kunji1, and it's happening for the last 3 weeks, so I reboot of the windows manager, wont work
[20:13] <rrva> zykotick9: yeah but I am up and running and too lazy to redo
[20:13] <baazigar|rajat> Hello ! when i start ubuntu , i can login but nothing shows up on the screen, just an error : compiz crashed
[20:13] <Slackline> kunji1, I see
[20:14] <baazigar|rajat> I upgraded ubuntu last night :(
[20:14] <baazigar|rajat> Can someone help?
[20:14] <kunji1> baazigar|rajat: does your video card support 3d graphics?  were you using them before?  Unity requires compiz to run, you might try Unity 2D instead.
[20:14] <Scrivener> When attempting to boot from linux live disk (I believe 12.04 64-bit), the bootup process hangs after producing a few lines of this as the last output: "WARN: short transfer on control ep". I've searched this, but only found things referring to USB 3.0 drives and such not being recognized. I don't think I have anything plugged into a USB 3.0 port, but even if I did, why would that stop the live boot process?
[20:15] <rrva> ActionPa1snip: I'll try xfce4
[20:15] <waxstone> escott, froze without being able to REISUB. capslock & numlock light could not toggled. checking syslog be toggled
[20:15] <baazigar|rajat> kunji1 : yes, my ubuntu was working before, i even tried ubuntu 2d but still the problem remains
[20:16] <Biafra> Okay... I'm having problems getting 12.04 LTS Desktop to boot off of USB
[20:16] <ActionPa1snip> rrva: another option :)
[20:16] <ActionPa1snip> Biafra: what happens when  you try?
[20:16] <stueng> hi, having problems with a wireless device. lspci shows  Intel 3945ABG connection. The little indicator hardware light on the front of the laptop isnt illuminated though. iwlist scan shows no results.
[20:16] <Biafra> it hangs mid-boot
[20:17] <Biafra> ActionTa1sn1p: it hangs mid-boot
[20:17] <ActionPa1snip> Biafra: what video chip do you use and do you use swutching GPUs?
[20:17] <ActionPa1snip> Biafra: use TAB to complete nicks ;)
[20:17] <EuroNerd> I just installed LAMP on 12.04, but my /var/www folder is root owned and I can't put things there. How do I make it accessible for me as a user?
[20:18] <Biafra> ActionPa1sn1p: Single AMD Radeon HD 6870 (Barts) (no switching)
[20:18] <waxstone> escott, not seeing anything tha scream ERROR WARNING WARNING
[20:18] <ActionPa1snip> EuroNerd: who is the group owner
[20:18] <ActionPa1snip> Biafra: try the boot option: nomodeset
[20:18] <pedro> hello
[20:18] <Biafra> okay... brb (rebooting from windows to usb stick again)
[20:18] <baazigar|rajat> kunji1 : is there any way to open terminal if compiz does not work?
[20:19] <zykotick9> EuroNerd: root or www-data?
[20:19] <EuroNerd> ActionPa1snip, in the Permissions properties under Group:  it's  root.
[20:19] <EuroNerd> zykotick9, seems like root.
[20:19] <kunji1> baazigar|rajat: try switching to another terminal ctrl+alt+f1
[20:19] <ActionPa1snip> EuroNerd: ok, then make a new group and add root and your user to the group, then make that group the group owner and give the group write access
[20:19] <zykotick9> EuroNerd: so you didn't use Ubuntu's LAMP stack?
[20:20] <EuroNerd> zykotick9, I've installed it on Ubuntu Desktop. And yeah, I've used the default apt-get install lamp-server^.
[20:21] <zykotick9> EuroNerd: i find it difficult to believe it's root owned then... well, best of luck.
[20:21] <baazigar|rajat> kunji1 : i will try that, will reinstall compiz from there then maybe it will be
[20:21] <kunji1> EuroNerd: /var/www should be root owned (or another system user, something like that)
[20:21] <kunji1> baazigar|rajat: good luck
[20:21] <EuroNerd> kunji1, why?
[20:22] <genii-around> EuroNerd: In case of an exploit on your system, the attacker can usually only cause as much damage as the user they have access to
[20:22] <kunji1> EuroNerd: security reasons, I don't know the ins and outs of it though, so you can sudo to put things there, or if you want to use a gui to move things around you can gksudo nautilus
[20:22] <Scrivener> When attempting to boot from linux live disk (I believe 12.04 64-bit), the bootup process hangs after producing a few lines of this as the last output: "WARN: short transfer on control ep". I've searched this, but only found things referring to USB 3.0 drives and such not being recognized. I don't think I have anything plugged into a USB 3.0 port, but even if I did, why would that stop the live boot process?
[20:23] <zykotick9> Scrivener: have you tested nomodeset?
[20:23] <EuroNerd> kunji1, in fact, I want permanent FTP access to the folder where www files are. Which to me seems only logical, that's how you usually put stuff on remote web servers.
[20:23] <Scrivener> zykotick9: I need the power of t3h googlez to know what that means.
[20:23] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | Scrivener
[20:23] <waxstone> Experiencing random freezing when using firfox in 12.04 using default install no problems using Chromium
[20:24] <kunji1> EuroNerd: I wouldn't use FTP ever myself, I would recommend SFTP (it's over SSH ^_^)
[20:24] <escott> waxstone, if you cant reisub it is unlikely anything will make it to the logs
[20:24]  * zykotick9 FTP must die!
[20:24] <escott> waxstone, what kind of filesystem are you using?
[20:24] <Scrivener> zykotick9: Is it meant for anything other than graphics issues?
[20:24] <adam-> ?�DCC SEND STARTKEYLOGGER 0 0 0
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[20:24] <zykotick9> Scrivener: it's THE most common reason for boot failing - thus asking if you've tried it.  but ya, it's only ATI/NVidia related.
[20:25] <reisio> adam-: nooooooooooooo :p
[20:25] <kunji1> EuroNerd: also your ftp runs as a user, and you can give that user access to /var/www if you want, but it shouldn't really be the default so that if someone opens up, well they know what's open, but someone just running default shouldn't need to run around locking things like that down.
[20:25] <waxstone> escott, default settings on install so etx4?
[20:26] <Scrivener> Nope, I haven't tried it -- I'm running an Nvidia GeForce 560 Ti... I could give it a shot. It never actually gets to any splash screen, but also isn't a black screen. I can type as though it's a terminal interface -- just stops at those messages and sits there.
[20:27] <escott> i would suspect it is something with your graphics card. presumably it isnt flash because that should also affect chrome. firefox calls fsync a lot but ext4 is frequently used enough to flush out any issues there
[20:27] <waxstone> escott, im running one of the new gtx 680's with ubuntu generic drivers
[20:28] <stueng> hi, having problems with a wireless device. lspci shows  Intel 3945ABG connection. The little indicator hardware light on the front of the laptop isnt illuminated though. iwlist scan shows no results.
[20:28] <Scrivener> zykotick9: I'll try nomodeset and be right back. Thanks.
[20:29] <Biafra> ActionPa1snip: nomodeset made no difference, still won't boot
[20:29] <waxstone> escott, NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version current) [Recommended]
[20:29] <andygraybeal> what is some backup software that i can get a new ubuntu user to use?  (not rsync :)  is there a great graphical backup app?
[20:29] <escott> !backup | andygraybeal
[20:29] <andygraybeal> thanks brother escott
[20:30] <Biafra> My USB stick boots fine until it gets to an error about missing wlan card firmware (known issue, but shouldn't be causing the issue) then it freezes
[20:31] <Biafra> there are some earlier errors about having issues loading /dev/sr0 or /dev/sr1, but since I'm using a USB stick, I'm fairly certain it can be ignored (i think)
[20:32] <D[4]ni> either the manpage of rhythmbox-client has wrong info, or rhythmbox-client has a bug.
[20:32] <D[4]ni> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011946/
[20:32] <Biafra> I've checked both my usb stick for errors (there were none), and have checked the ISO I used to make the bootable stick (md5sums match)
[20:34] <de2> Can anyone help me i have a rly annoying problem i cant do anything i installed edubuntu from software center and now i cant even use sudu it says im not i sudoers list and i cant even open software center anymore
[20:35] <Biafra> I'm having problems booting the ubuntu installer/iso off my USB stick. it freezes mid-boot
[20:35] <zykotick9> de2: did you happen to change your hostname (computer name)?
[20:35] <shaneo> hi guys winebrowser is being used to open my terminal windows what would cuase this
[20:35] <Biafra> Any help would be wonderful
[20:35] <shaneo> *cuase
[20:35] <shaneo> Biafra, what did you use to create the bootable usb
[20:35] <de2> No i did't change my computer name
[20:35] <zykotick9> de2: ok, just checkin'
[20:36] <zykotick9> de2: "groups" in a terminal - are you a member of sudo?
[20:36] <Biafra> pendrive linux usb installer, per http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[20:36] <de2> im just member of root
[20:37] <de2> i tryed to add myself but i can't.
[20:37] <zykotick9> de2: only root?
[20:37] <de2> yes
[20:37] <bibi23> hi, I'd like to change the group of a user with usermod, but before doing it I'd like to know to wich group(s) the user belongs? How can I achieve that? thx
[20:38] <zykotick9> de2: your user needs several more groups!  (you probably use usermod incorrectly)
[20:38] <de2> I think edubuntu removed me from those groups
[20:39] <imbezol> bibi23: type "id"
[20:39] <genii-around> If you use usermod to add a group, you must use the append switch or that is the ONLY group your user will belong to
[20:39] <zykotick9> bibi23: "groups" in a terminal
[20:39] <de2> How do i change so i belong to all groups i need to be in ?
[20:39] <bibi23> genii-around: yes I know that's what I want to check the groups of the user before overwriting them
[20:39] <bibi23> why*
[20:40] <genii-around> bibi23: groups
[20:40] <bibi23> zykotick9: ok thx
[20:40] <genii-around> ( is the command )
[20:40] <CuteKitty> what's the advantage to using ext4 over ntfs?
[20:41] <imbezol> CuteKitty: ntfs is a windows filesystem. you should only really be using it to read existing ntfs partitions
[20:41] <zykotick9> CuteKitty: that was an easy /ignore - ntfs doesn't support POSIX, it's not a native gnu/linux filesystem.  infact - ntfs is crap.
[20:41] <escott> CuteKitty, you cannot use ntfs for your root / or /home as it is not POSIX compliant
[20:41] <Biafra> anyone able to figure this out? I can't get the ubuntu installer/iso to load off my usb stick
[20:41] <imbezol> CuteKitty: you want to select a linux filesystem for installing linux on.. ext4, xfs, etc..
[20:41] <de2> Anyone knows how to fix my problem ? i dont have access to anything anymore
[20:41] <Biafra> it stalls completely mid-boot
[20:41] <de2> and i want to uninstall edubuntu
[20:41] <kecer> Biafra: try LiLi
[20:41] <CuteKitty> i ask about ext4 vs ntfs because i'd like to have a files/storage space on my dual-booting computer that both Win7 and linux can access
[20:42] <CuteKitty> imbezol: zykotick9 escott ^
[20:42] <kecer> CuteKitty: ntfs
[20:42] <waxstone> Experiencing random freezing when using firefox in 12.04 using default install no problems using Chromium anyone?
[20:42] <de2> Can anyone help me i have a rly annoying problem i cant do anything i installed edubuntu from software center and now i cant even use sudu it says im not i sudoers list and i cant even open software center anymore
[20:43] <escott> CuteKitty, there are lots of people who use the ntfs-3g drivers to read ntfs from within windows. fewer use the ext4 drivers to read ext4 from windows. i would use ntfs for shared media files between the two oses
[20:43] <de2> Can anyone help me i have a rly annoying problem i cant do anything i installed edubuntu from software center and now i cant even use sudo it says im not i sudoers list and i cant even open software center anymore
[20:43] <kecer> de2: try using google this time
[20:43] <genii-around> de2: I'd recommend boot to livecd, mount your root filesystem on the hard drive, open the old /etc/group file and add the user to a few basic groups like adm dialout cdrom  video plugdev lpadmin admin
[20:43] <kecer> and dont flood
[20:43] <de2> kecer: i tryed
[20:43] <escott> de2, boot to a rescue and run "usermod -a -G admin yourusername
[20:43] <comrade_> jean
[20:44] <kecer> de2: it's not complicated problem so I guess u used bing
[20:44] <zykotick9> escott: doesn't 12.04 use sudo instead of admin?
[20:44] <escott> zykotick9, im not on 12.04 yet
[20:44] <de2> escott: i will try
[20:44] <CuteKitty> escott: why would you need special ntfs-3g drivers to read ntfs from within windows? doesn't windows natively read ntfs without any special drivers?
[20:44] <escott> CuteKitty, i meant "from within linux"
[20:45] <zykotick9> escott: i "believe" they changed from admin to sudo - but you'd been to verify
[20:45] <zykotick9> s/been/need/
[20:45] <de2> kecer: it's not as easy as u think i dont have acces to anything i even tryed to open with safe mode root and add me and it still dont work
[20:45] <kecer> de2: http://bit.ly/KzfimS
[20:45] <escott> de2, if zykotick9 it might be sudo instead of admin. check with someone in channel who runs 12.04
[20:46] <EliahKagan> yes, the group for users that can run commands as root with sudo has changed from admin to sudo in Ubuntu 12.04, but if you upgraded from an earlier release you still have admin (so as not to break your configuration)
[20:46] <zykotick9> EliahKagan: thanks
[20:46] <CuteKitty>  is there any  disadvantage to having my personal files (docs, pics, etc) stored on NTFS, from my Linux OS's point of view? (question for escott and anybody else)
[20:46] <EliahKagan> here's my /etc/sudoers from such an upgraded system, you can see it has both set up: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011970/
[20:47] <escott> CuteKitty, ubuntu cannot repair ntfs corruption. so you must always have a working copy of windows to do any repairs. also ntfs access is slower
[20:47] <EliahKagan> by default, Ubuntu mounts NTFS volumes in a way that does not use their permissions
[20:47] <genii-around> CuteKitty: If the filesystem develops problems, repairing it from Linux is an issue
[20:47] <rezajaan> hi al
[20:48] <escott> CuteKitty, beyond that its fine to have data files. just dont put your $HOME on ntfs as the permissions wont work
[20:48] <CuteKitty> okay, so i guess it's safer that i keep all my precious files (documents, pics, etc) on linux. Then, if I want to log in to Windows, i should just copy/move whichever file I want to access beforehand.
[20:48] <rezajaan> i hav problem vth my wifi i cant able to browse internet  trough wireles
[20:48] <de2> do i have to start in safe mode, start root and type usergroup -a -G sudo de2   ??
[20:49] <adhil> Hello there, Am running ubuntu 11.04  and I have a Galaxy Tab 620. Am trying to connect my tablet using MTP through usb. I tried to use mtp-tools, but when i run mtp-detect its giving me a no raw devices found error. Can anyone help me to fix this?
[20:50] <CuteKitty> escott: previously you wrote " fewer use the ext4 drivers to read ext4 from windows." won't this be a good solution for me? have all my personal files on linux, and just install special ext4 drivers for  windows 7?
[20:51] <CuteKitty> as a background, i login to Linux most of the time. i just log into windows to play games
[20:51] <de2> Can anyone help me i have a rly annoying problem i cant do anything i installed edubuntu from software center and now i cant even use sudo it says im not i sudoers list and i cant even open software center anymore
[20:51] <CuteKitty> i also log into windows 7 just to update the virus signatures.
[20:52] <escott> CuteKitty, there are some drivers for (at least ext2) which can be installed in windows and maybe also ext4. the problem is i've never heard or anyone actually using them. so i would be wary of using them. http://www.ext2fsd.com/
[20:52] <CuteKitty> do you have a dual-booting computer. are your personal files stored on linux? if so , how do you access them on windows? (to escott and anybody else)
[20:53] <ActionPa1snip> de2: are you in the admin group?
[20:53] <escott> CuteKitty, the previous link appears to be dead/dying (over a year since a release) you might also check http://www.fs-driver.org/
[20:53] <escott> CuteKitty, yes and i dont
[20:53] <de2> yes
[20:53] <xclusive585> test. I think my servers IRC server is up and running right. Only took half a day. :-)
[20:53] <de2> or no
[20:54] <bibi23> I've just disabled root connexion through ssh in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, but it's not efficient yet, is there another solution than restarting the server to be able to "refresh" the config?
[20:54] <de2> ActionPa1snip: im only in root group
[20:54] <ActionPa1snip> de2: if you run:  groups     you will see
[20:54] <guntbert> xclusive585: please use #test for testing :)
[20:54] <ActionPa1snip> de2: are you logged in as root or something?
[20:55] <de2> ActionPa1snip: Im logged in as my user De2
[20:55] <escott> bibi23, service ssh restart
[20:55] <ActionPa1snip> de2: you shouldn't be in the root group then
[20:55] <RumRum> Im having troubles connecting to VPN, or well it connects. But the IP stays the same as my standard. OS: Ubuntu 11.04 Log: http://snipurl.com/23pi1yg Settings: http://upit.cc/i/3b936574.png Googled around a bit but nothing seemed to be working.
[20:56] <de2> ActionPa1snip when i try to use sudo and anything i get this error "de2 is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[20:56] <de2> "
[20:56] <kecer> use `su` then
[20:56] <zykotick9> kecer: su is almost always the wrong answer for ubuntu
[20:56] <de2> su: Authentication failure
[20:58] <bibi23> escott: ouch I've just enabled it again, thank god I had a terminal open in root, I've created another user, but if I connect with him with ssh I'm getting a permission denied exception
[20:58] <de2> is there anyway to fix this?
[20:58] <kunji1> de2: well, it's probably exactly what the error says, or is this a new development (did you have sudo access before?)
[20:58] <bibi23> shouldn't he go in its own folder by default?
[20:59] <kunji1> de2: it might be fixable, it is as long as someone does have sudo privileges and can go add you to the sudoers file
[20:59] <de2> kunji1: i had sudo access before i installed edubuntu
[20:59] <de2> kunji1: no one else i sudo
[21:00] <kecer> zykotick9: sorry then, I always edit sudoers
[21:00] <kunji1> de2: isn't that another distribution?  Or is it a program, I don't recall.
[21:00] <zykotick9> !wfm > kecer
[21:00] <genii-around> de2: Since the username rights etc on the current system are screwy, is why I recommended the livecd boot method
[21:00] <shaneo> wine browser is opening all my applications any suggestions
[21:00] <guntbert> de2: boot into the recovery system, choose "root shell" and add your user to the "admin" group
[21:00] <genii-around> EG: "de2: I'd recommend boot to livecd, mount your root filesystem on the hard drive, open the old /etc/group file and add the user to a few basic groups like adm dialout cdrom video plugdev lpadmin admin"
[21:01] <genii-around> And perhaps also in this case the group of sudo
[21:01] <ldgs> hi
[21:01] <de2> guntbert: i dont think that works i tryed that before
[21:01] <ldgs> could someone tell me how to install java
[21:01] <kunji1> de2: what genii-around said, lol, I forgot the good'ol livecd for some reason.
[21:01] <reisio> ldgs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[21:01] <guntbert> de2: then do as genii-around said
[21:02] <escott> bibi23, i didnt follow
[21:02] <ldgs> reisio: but i just want to open java apps not to develop apps
[21:02] <kunji1> de2: yeah, as genii-around said, make sure your user is in the admin group in particular, and that the admin group is in the sudoers file
[21:02] <de2> So when i boot up with livecd i do what to be exact?
[21:02] <kunji1> de2: and make sure to use that special way they have for editing the sudoers file
[21:02] <reisio> ldgs: generically you'll want icedtea with the browser plugin
[21:02] <reisio> ldgs: not entirely sure what the install process is
[21:03] <reisio> ldgs: icedtea-plugin looks like
[21:04] <kecer> zykotick9: oh, so sudoers doesn't exist everywhere u say, right
[21:04] <zykotick9> kecer: no, it should exist.  i certainly didn't say anything like that.
[21:05] <zykotick9> kecer: my point was in /etc/sudoers the default group has changed from admin to sudo in 12.04
[21:05] <kecer> holy crackers
[21:05] <kecer> why would they do that
[21:05] <zykotick9> kecer: sudo is what debian has always used, less changes for ubuntu
[21:06] <bibi23> escott: I think I had entered a wrong login but it looks ok now, thx
[21:06] <kecer> another reason for staying on lucid / squeeze
[21:06] <de2> okey i will boot with a livecd now and test cya laters if it works :)
[21:06] <de2> thanks for help
[21:07] <bad_wolf> I need help setting up wireless, could anyone help?
[21:07] <zykotick9> kecer: please don't compare ubuntu to debian - they aren't comparable ;)
[21:08] <kunji1> de2:I would say to read some man pages: http://linux.die.net/man/8/usermod  and this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[21:08] <xclusive585> Ubuntu isn't Debian until all the bugs are gone. :-)
[21:09] <genii-around> xclusive585: The same could be said with the names reversed...
[21:09] <reisio> :p
[21:09] <kunji1> de2: sorry it took me a bit to find those, you can find more about it googling around, I'm assuming some familiarity with the command line
[21:10] <antarus> any idea how I get anthy to convert my kana to kanji?
[21:11] <nkei0> So, has canonical ever thought of making the software center more of a torrent kind of thing?  Obviously, they would have to constantly seed, but if anyone else had it open that would let them upload their packages too...?
[21:11] <reisio> antarus: assuming that's what it's for, I'd read man anthy
[21:11] <reisio> nkei0: I'm not sure you are aware of exactly how rich Shuttleworth is
[21:12] <reisio> nkei0: hosting 90GB of binaries is a drop in the bucket
[21:12] <nkei0> reisio, It's not that that I care about, it's the speed...
[21:12] <bob_> i'm wanting to use the fakeroot -u dpkg-repack `dpkg --get-selections | grep install | cut -f1` to move my installed programs from 10.04 to 12.04, will this work?
[21:12] <reisio> torrents aren't necessarily faster than http downloads
[21:12] <reisio> it depends on the servers/seeders
[21:12] <kecer> zykotick9: I wouldn't do it
[21:12] <reisio> nkei0: in general I agree, though, p2p is a great idea that isn't utilized nearly as much as it could be
[21:13] <kecer> *I don't do it
[21:13] <kecer> I didn't do it?
[21:13] <kecer> too late for my brain, sry
[21:13] <root____> what?
[21:13] <arooni-mobile> is disk utility accurate?  it says i have 38 "pending sectors" but when i ran badblocks (:  sudo badblocks -b 512 /dev/sda -v ... got Pass completed, 0 bad blocks found. (0/0/0 errors))
[21:13] <nkei0> reisio, Yeah, I'm in the middle of nowhere in the UK, so my internet is crap.  Trying to download all 110MB of wine is sloooowwwww....
[21:13] <ki4ro> When Update Manager says that it has some updates available how do I know which ones to install?
[21:14] <Darael> nkei0: Something called debtorrent already exists.
[21:14] <root____> how to change my nickname? share pleasee
[21:14] <sirriffsalot> If I do "sudo gnome-panel" in a gnome classic DE the left part of my upper panel comes back, with the "system settings" monitor button etc, but without it it is completely gone... Any ideas?
[21:14] <zykotick9> Kirakishou: install all of them...
[21:14] <Darael> nkei0: Which reminds me, I never got around to setting it up...
[21:14] <reisio> nkei0: torrenting wouldn't necessarily help
[21:14] <Darael> root____: /nick newnick
[21:15] <zykotick9> root____: don't irc as root...
[21:15] <root____> oke thankssss
[21:15] <compdoc> arooni-mobile, no reallocated sectors?
[21:15] <escott> sirriffsalot, you should not be running your window manager as root
[21:15] <xzerox> test
[21:15] <bibi23> I'm wondering something about the third part when using permissions, for the /var/www folder where I have some websites, I was planning to create a website group and put in it apache (www-data) and other user (for creating folders etc through filezilla easilly) so I would choose the 770 permission, is it correct or I need to give some permission to the others?
[21:15] <nkei0> reisio, It does actually, it takes me 40 minutes to download a 780mb iso off of bittorrent, as far as http it takes like 6 hours.
[21:15] <sirriffsalot> escott: without it it doesn't show...
[21:16] <bob_> i'm wanting to use the fakeroot -u dpkg-repack `dpkg --get-selections | grep install | cut -f1` to move my installed programs from 10.04 to 12.04, will this work?
[21:16] <snabo> anyone knows how to change keyboard volume shortcut to single key?
[21:16] <reisio> nkei0: that may be true, but it's not a matter of http vs bittorrent, just a matter of the specific http mirror you're using
[21:16] <reisio> snabo: single? How would you do both up and down?
[21:16] <Jordan_U> bob_: No.
[21:16] <nkei0> reisio, I get as close as I can, either the dutch servers or the french.
[21:16] <xzerox> please give me tutor ubuntu, i'm newbie :(
[21:17] <snabo> i mean one key up and the other down...xubuntu 12.04
[21:17] <bob_> Jordan_U what will work?
[21:17] <Jordan_U> bob_: Upgrading from Ubuntu 10.04 to Ubuntu 12.04.
[21:18] <snabo> there is a way to use amixer "something" that i forgot
[21:18] <Darael> bob_: Different versions of programs, compiled for a different version of the various standard libraries?  Sounds like a bad idea..  Besides, one of the main reasons for doing a release upgrade is to get new versions of packages.
[21:19] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | bob_
[21:19] <reisio> nkei0: where're you?
[21:19] <ki4ro> When Update Manager says that it has some updates available how do I know which ones to install?
[21:19] <reisio> nkei0: belg-y-am?
[21:19] <Darael> ki4ro: Do you have any reason to believe there are some you shouldn't install?
[21:19] <Jordan_U> ki4ro: Generally all of them.
[21:19] <nkei0> reisio, Cambridge, UK
[21:20] <reisio> nkei0: really... surely there are closer mirrors than france and nederlands
[21:20] <ki4ro> Darael: Not that I know of...I guess that is the question
[21:20] <nkei0> reisio, Depends on where the distro is based, but for most of the larger distros there aren't.
[21:20] <reisio> that's hard to believe
[21:20] <ki4ro> Jordan_U: That is what I do
[21:21] <reisio> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors has several UK mirrors
[21:21] <arooni-mobile> companion_, no reallocated sectors
[21:21] <Jordan_U> ki4ro: Continue doing it.
[21:21] <Darael> ki4ro: There is rarely a reason for a user not to upgrade a package if an update is available.  Mostly you've got to be doing quite advanced stuff, and at that point you know why it shouldn't be upgraded.
[21:21] <compdoc> arooni-mobile, pending sectors could mean bad communication, like a badly seated cable, or bad power supply. They might turn out to be good sectors after it tests them further
[21:21] <danny> hello i am looking at a tutorial and was wondering what the extra brackets actually do because they produce different results can someone explain this to me briefly http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012067/
[21:21] <nkei0> reisio, Wasn't just talking about ubuntu.  I' just set up 10 different distros on a pen drive.
[21:21] <ki4ro> Darael: Okay thanks for the advice
[21:21] <jemark> i am wondering why i am in unregged?
[21:21] <arooni-mobile> compdoc, this number has risen from 0 => 38 in a week!  so dont know whats going on ; its a brand new drive
[21:22] <ki4ro> Jordan_U: Thanks for the advice
[21:22] <reisio> nkei0: still hard to believe, name me a distro
[21:22] <Jordan_U> ki4ro: You're welcome.
[21:22] <compdoc> arooni-mobile, well, thats not good
[21:22] <Jordan_U> danny: Try asking in #bash .
[21:22] <Shinobi> How do I install the CPAN DBD module successfully?
[21:22] <xzerox> exit
[21:23] <Shinobi> on 10.04
[21:23] <danny> Jordan_U, ok
[21:23] <Darael> danny: The outer brackets mark as a character group, the inner as a special qualifier.  The one-bracket version is literally matching anything for which the first character is :, u, p, e, or r.
[21:23] <xzerox> how to logout in this server?
[21:23] <xzerox> how to logout in this room?
[21:24] <zykotick9> xzerox: /wc or /exit might help
[21:24] <LjL> xzerox: /leave to leave the channel, /quit to leave the server
[21:24] <Darael> xzerox: Close the window?  /quit to quit irssi, /part to leave a channel.
[21:24] <danny> Darael: ahh ok that makes sense thanks just trying to understand this and that makes alot more sense
[21:24] <D[4]ni> uh, ~root@
[21:26] <sirriffsalot> I try to send a screenshot through pidgin but it just keeps getting cancelled by me and the recipient doesn't see it.. any ideas?
[21:26] <zamba> how can i get norwegian keyboard layout in the live cd?
[21:26] <zykotick9> danny: even with my terrible spelling - i know "alot" i actually two words "a lot"
[21:26] <nkei0> reisio, I don't remember, I just d/l'd arch, lubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu, puppy, fedora, crunchbang, and a ton of others.
[21:26] <Darael> zamba: Load it up, then pull up the dash, and search for "keyboard layout", and change it in that tool.
[21:26] <zamba> Darael: can't add norwegian there.. the + sign is greyed out
[21:27] <danny> zykotick9: just like i was soposed to be is ?
[21:27] <reisio> zamba: it probably doesn't believe you're norwegian, try eating fermented fish in front of your webcam
[21:28] <nkei0> brb, seeing if my wireless works now that i've got firmware installed.
[21:29] <Darael> reisio: I was just starting to believe that your advice could always be trusted to at least point in the right direction.
[21:29] <reisio> Darael: heheh
[21:30] <maca> Hi from Spain!!
[21:31] <Darael> maca: Greetings.  For Ubuntu support, chat in here (or go to #ubuntu-es for Spanish-language).  For general chat, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.  And sorry to be boring.
[21:32] <maca> I have a doubt: when I tried to connect via sshfs, to my pc server, it pop up telling me as that: read, connection reset by peer. What means it??
[21:33] <Jordan_U> maca: Does normal ssh work?
[21:34] <Eagleman> !clone
[21:35] <CuteKitty> i'm copying my personal files from linux to windows. is it normal for my processor to run 100% and for swap to be greatly used?
[21:35] <reisio> CuteKitty: if your disks are slow
[21:35] <maca> Jordan, At the first time, when i connected worked fine, but next day, when i tried again to connect, it poped up that message
[21:35] <CuteKitty> reisio: not sure of their speed. it's an inernal drive. and both windows and linux are on same hard drive
[21:36] <xclusive585> ah yes. because your using linux to access a ntfs partition that's why it's slow
[21:36] <maca> I can't understand what happened
[21:36] <i7c> i'm on Ubuntu 12.04. When i connect to my openVPN (which works perfectly on other computers) it seems that i can't do any DNS lookups anymore.
[21:36] <i7c> does somebody know this issue?
[21:37] <Darael> Eagleman: For experimenting with the bot, please use a PM, so we don't get factoids unrelated to anything in context in channel.  Thanks.
[21:38] <bob_> I have compiz installed on 10.04 and my identical laptop with 12.04 i can't get the special effects to work like burning windows when closing and the desktop cube rotation.  I think this is because it seems to be working in 2d.  Is this the case?
[21:39] <Darael> i7c: If you "cat /etc/resolv.conf" before and after connecting, does it change?  If not, there's a routing problem.  If so, do DNS lookups for things that should be accessible only through the VPN work?
[21:39] <Darael> bob_: Pull up a terminal (ctl+alt+t) and do a "ps -e | grep compiz".  If you're not running compiz, you're not in 3d mode.
[21:40] <xZEROx> how to access free internet in ubuntu?
[21:40] <Corey> xZEROx: You mean via a web browser?
[21:40] <Darael> xZEROx: You'll need to elaborate on that.  "Free internet"?
[21:40] <xZEROx> yes, firefox
[21:40] <reisio> xZEROx: where are you, geographically?
[21:41] <maca> I think that the best way is purge the openssh server, and then reinstall again
[21:41] <xZEROx> indonesian ..
[21:41] <i7c> Darael: it does not change. both times there is an entry "nameserver 127.0.0.1"   and  "search <local-router-name>". do you know how to fix this?
[21:41] <PeterFA> I upgraded to the latest and now Synaptic errors referring to the old lucid repositories.
[21:42] <bibi23> I'm trying to create specific users instead of using root for everything as people in here suggested me but I don't know how to handle service permissions? I have a bash script wich deploys an application, and at the end he does "service apache2 reload" to load the pre-prod appliaction settings, but I can't run this command witouth being root... what should I do? thx
[21:42] <ejv> !sudo | bibi23
[21:42] <genii-around> People in here suggested that you use root for everything???
[21:43] <xZEROx> Darael : you know? give me a tutor please, for conection internet free no charge
[21:44] <bibi23> ejv: but usually when I do sudo it askes me for my password, I'll check in your links to see if I can disable that, thx
[21:44] <bibi23> genii-around: no I said the opposite ;)
[21:44] <genii-around> bibi23: Ubuntu is designed with the idea not to be using root user if necessary, mostly to protect users from themself.
[21:44] <ejv> bibi23: you can, read the documentation @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[21:45] <genii-around> bibi23: Aaah.. it was ambiguously worded then. The sudo factoid is what you want, as ejv pointed out
[21:45] <ejv> genii-around: i think you misinterpreted what he wrote; his punctuation wasn't the best ;)
[21:45] <xclusive585> ZERO, I'm confused. do you not have an internet connection you are connected to this channel with?
[21:45] <xZEROx> all, how to access free internet in ubuntu? free acces in my provider? can do it?
[21:45] <genii-around> ejv: The "instead of using root for everything as people in here suggested"
[21:45] <ejv> i'll have what he's having
[21:46] <bibi23> genii-around: yes when I read it again you're right lol
[21:46] <bibi23> ambigous
[21:46] <i7c> xZEROx: i don't think there is any free internet.
[21:47] <xclusive585> ZERO, only if you find someone with wireless that is willing to let you use it.
[21:48] <schultza> has anyone gotten netflix to work in ubuntu?
[21:49] <JavaKing> I have the same question about netflix
[21:49] <reisio> schultza: not without some form of emulation/virtualization, no
[21:49] <PeterFA> Netflix runs on ubuntu?
[21:49] <reisio> and I wouldn't even try that without VT-d
[21:49] <reisio> PeterFA: nope
[21:49] <schultza> i have smx amd's vt-d
[21:49] <PeterFA> reisio, long time, no see, old buddy!
[21:50] <schultza> er.. svm
[21:50] <reisio> PeterFA: allo!
[21:50] <reisio> schultza: vt-d, not vt-x
[21:50] <reisio> different thing
[21:50] <PeterFA> Is there a way I can check the date of the first registration of my nick on FreeNode?
[21:51] <ejv> PeterFA: /msg nickserv info
[21:51] <PeterFA> I registered in 2005.
[21:51] <PeterFA> Dang.
[21:51] <schultza> what is the difference?
[21:51] <PeterFA> 7 years.
[21:52] <bibi23> ejv: I think it's with this line : "USERS WORKSTATIONS=(ADMINS) ADMIN_CMDS" but I don't really get where I should put the user?
[21:52] <xZEROx> in modem not wlan, I use a modem, I want internet without paying? what can? what software to use?
[21:52] <bibi23> in my sudoers file
[21:52] <PeterFA> I probably could donate sometime.
[21:52] <runvnc> Hello is there a program or script I can run that will enable Ipv6 in 11? I see an article, the main thing that I don't know about is it says to enter my ipv6 on line two or something, and I don't know my ipv6 address.
[21:54] <Jordan_U> runvnc: ip46 support is enabled by default in all versions of Ubuntu. What guide are you following?
[21:54] <Jordan_U> runvnc: *ipv6
[21:55] <eeepc> ifconfig eth0
[21:55] <eeepc> ip -6 address show eth0
[21:56] <zamba> how can i disable the network timeout when booting?
[21:56] <xZEROx> I use a modem, I want internet without paying? what can? what software to use?
[21:56] <zamba> it sits idly waiting for the network for a couple of minutes when booting ubuntu server 12.04
[21:56] <JavaKing> exit
[21:56] <genii-around> xZEROx: It's not a matter of software
[21:57] <bob__> i was just on talking about compiz and seeing if it was on 12.04 and running could I have that terminal command again, i'm now on my 12.04 machine, thanks
[21:57] <PeterFA> What's the name of Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:57] <Jordan_U> xZEROx: We can't help you with scamming your ISP or any other ways to obtain free internet.
[21:57] <mcphail> zamba: is it trying to netboot? change the boot order in your bios
[21:57] <eeepc> free internet ^^
[21:57] <PeterFA> I scam my ISP by paying on time and abiding by the terms of use.
[21:57] <PeterFA> They'll never catch me.
[21:58] <xZEROx> jordan_U : oke thanksss
[21:58] <zamba> mcphail: i'm talking about the ubuntu boot
[21:58] <Jordan_U> zamba: What network timeout are you reffering to?
[21:58] <zamba> Jordan_U: while booting
[21:59] <tiox> I don't know if it's always been like this of if the recent update to libasound2 does this...
[21:59] <genii-around> xZEROx: Depending if this is a dialup modem.. there are still some areas of the world which provide some free or almost-free internet access. Like ww.295.ca
[21:59] <Jordan_U> zamba: I still have no idea what you're reffering to, please be more detailed. What is happening at boot which you don't want to happen? What output are you seeing on the screen? Any error message?
[21:59] <tiox> But my laptop has no sound from headphones unless I go into alsamixer and turn up the speaker volume.
[21:59] <genii-around>  ( add another w there )
[21:59] <PeterFA> Yay, I fixed my synaptic.
[21:59] <PeterFA> haha, that sounds funny.
[22:00] <tiox> I cannot tweak the headphones volume, but when I up the speaker volume the sound from my headphones goes up, and the master controls the output as it should.
[22:00] <ActionPa1snip> tiox: tried the position fix=1 option on the sound module?
[22:00] <tiox> How can I do that?
[22:01] <tiox> I'm just happy I am getting sound, but if I pull them out and put them back in I have to fix it through alsamixer again.
[22:01] <runvnc> Jordan_U, thanks, lol.. so I don't have to do anything.. it was this http://knowledgelayer.softlayer.com/questions/468/Adding+IPv6+to+Ubuntu+systems
[22:01] <bob__> i was just on talking about compiz and seeing if it was on 12.04 and running could I have that terminal command again, i'm now on my 12.04 machine, thanks
[22:01] <ActionPa1snip> tiox: try:  echo "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[22:01] <ActionPa1snip> tiox: reboot to test
[22:02] <tiox> Can't I just kill alsa and pulseaudio?
[22:02]  * tiox sighs and reboots
[22:02] <PeterFA> tiox, you can kill Pulse but you cannot kill alsa.
[22:02] <Jordan_U> runvnc: That's for manually binding an ipv6 ip to an interface. Just like with ipv4, for most people this is done automatically via DHCP.
[22:03] <PeterFA> What would have to happen for IPv6 to take over and replace v4?
[22:03] <bibi23> I'm editing my /etc/sudoers file to let a user run commands as sudo, but is it possible to allow him to do sudo witouth asking him for its password ?
[22:03] <CuteKitty> how come when i put in my 32GB SD card into the slot, it doesn't appear in nautilus? and what's strange is that when I remove the card from the slot, something appears in nautilus.
[22:03] <bob__> i was just on talking about compiz and seeing if it was on 12.04 and running could I have that terminal command again, i'm now on my 12.04 machine, thanks
[22:03] <PeterFA> bibi23, yes.
[22:04] <PeterFA> bibi23, just give it access to that exact program and line.
[22:04] <PeterFA> bibi23, then tell sudo you don't want to prompt for a password.
[22:04] <PeterFA> bibi23, you can find this out in the manual.
[22:04] <runvnc> ok thanks Jordan
[22:04] <vortexion> The installer has encountered an unrecoverable error
[22:05] <Jordan_U> runvnc: You're welcome.
[22:05] <vortexion> is there a log file where i can get a little more detail than that?
[22:05] <runvnc> http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/18/linux-tips-password-usage-in-sudo-passwd-nopasswd/
[22:05] <bibi23> PeterFA: well I wanted to allow him to sudo because he doesn't have access to the program, if I grant him access to the program what is the interest of doing sudo?
[22:05] <genii-around> bibi23: If you edited already the /etc/group to add yourself back in to the admin/sudo group, why are you editing the sudoers file?
[22:06] <PeterFA> bibi23, sudo elevates privileges but it's very configurable so you can assign your own rules.
[22:06] <PeterFA> bibi23, well, just read the manual, and if you see you can't do what you want, then you'll have to find another way.
[22:06] <tiox> Position fix did not resolve the issue.
[22:07] <CuteKitty> how can i test whether my branded SD card is a dud?
[22:07] <tiox> Again, thankful I have sound period.
[22:07] <bibi23> PeterFA: that's what I'm doing, I was reading this doc : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers to allow a user to run sudo command
[22:07] <tiox> CuteKitty: If you pop it in and receive nothing from it, it's a dud.
[22:07] <CuteKitty> tiox: what do you mean
[22:08] <tiox> But, if it's because the lock tab had been removed, a well-known trick is to cover that area with clear tape.
[22:08] <tiox> Well, if nautilus doesn't see it, then that's an indicator of problems.
[22:08] <juanchi> hi
[22:08] <CuteKitty> yes, tiox, naituls doesn't see it
[22:08] <angs> how can I see mounted devices list?
[22:09] <CuteKitty> tiox:  i didn't expect that my branded (PQI) SD card would not work :-(
[22:09] <genii-around> angs: mount
[22:09] <CuteKitty> is there a way i can confirm what the problem with my SD card is+
[22:09] <CuteKitty> ?
[22:09] <tiox> Not entirely sure.
[22:09] <angs> is there any another method rather than mount?
[22:09] <juanchi> angs: check dmesg?
[22:10] <tiox> See if gparted sees it.
[22:10] <tiox> Or, better yet, open disk utilty and see if the card is found.
[22:10] <tiox> Disk utility is installed by default.
[22:10] <angs> thanks
[22:10] <CuteKitty> tiox: gparted does not see the 32 gb card.
[22:10] <Jordan_U> angs: What problem are you actually trying to solve?
[22:10] <mcphail> CuteKitty: is it encrypted/protected? Linux can't handle the proprietary SD encryption
[22:11] <CuteKitty> mcphail: it's not encrypted/protected at all. it's a brand new 32-gb PQI SD card.
[22:11] <bob__> the compiz icnon is on my launcher panel but can seem to be able to access it whats going on?
[22:11] <bibi23> genii-around: I didn't add myself to the admin/sudo group, I was planning to edit the sudoers file, is it correct? my goal is to be able to run "sudo service apache2 reload"
[22:12] <genii-around> bibi23: admin users automatically have sudo
[22:12] <genii-around> eg: if you're in adm/admin group you don't have to edit the sudoers
[22:12] <mcphail> CuteKitty: do other cards work in the reader?
[22:13] <bibi23> genii-around: when you said admin you mean root? I never heard about admin group, basically I just hhave to add me to this group and it's ok?
[22:13] <tiox> Some older readers can only read SD cards u to 4GB.
[22:13] <tiox> up to*
[22:13] <PeterFA> If I want latest software, but not development stuff, or for development, do I want Proposed repository?
[22:13] <genii-around> bibi23: Normally the first user created is in this group by default and sudo works automatically for them. but you removed your user from this group.
[22:13] <CuteKitty> mcphail: yes, a 16gb card works
[22:13] <OerHeks> CuteKitty, does the sd card work in that reader under an other OS ? not all readers can handle 32 gb
[22:14] <CuteKitty> OerHeks: i'll try booting into my windows 7
[22:14] <tiox> OerHeks: Easily resolvable by purchasing an external SD card reader.
[22:14] <genii-around> bibi23: The root user is disabled on Ubuntu. People who are allowed temporary root are admin
[22:14] <bibi23> genii-around: there were only root user at the beginning
[22:14] <mcphail> CuteKitty: hate to say it, but the only way to be sure if it works is to try in Windows. But does dmesg give any clues when you plug it in?
[22:14] <CuteKitty> tiox: i bought an externas USB card reader (usb). the 32gb card doesn't work on that reader eithere
[22:14] <tiox> Wow.
[22:15] <OerHeks> tiox true, vendor should name this in the specs.
[22:15] <tiox> DO what mcphail said. Try dmesg
[22:15] <bob__> the compiz icon is on my launcher panel but can't seem to be able to access it whats going on?
[22:15] <bibi23> I'm in a webserver with other people, it's a virtual machine so I guess it's a custom installation, even login with root through ssh was activated
[22:15] <bibi23> by default
[22:15] <CuteKitty> tiox: too much info. how do i copy it all+
[22:15] <CuteKitty> ?
[22:15] <CuteKitty> tiox:  i mean dmesg.
[22:16] <CuteKitty> mcphail: i ran dmesg, but i can't scrooll all the way up afterwards
[22:16] <genii-around> bibi23: This is not the normal configuration of Ubuntu. You should contact the provider of your virtual machine in this case.
[22:16] <mcphail> CuteKitty: 99% of it will be useless. Just use dmesg | tail
[22:16] <PeterFA> Wow, it takes discipline to look over all the repositories and not select ever freakin one.
[22:16] <mcphail> CuteKitty: (just after you plug the card in)
[22:17] <kunji> genii-around: has that always true for ubuntu, the admin group being in sudoers already, also for the server version?  I was just curious because it has not always been the case on systems I have worked on (but not done the install of).
[22:17] <OerHeks> CuteKitty, last action is at the end, see timestamp in miliseconds
[22:18] <CuteKitty> mcphail: OerHeks tiox : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[22:18] <CuteKitty> oops. i meant http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1012236/
[22:19] <mcphail> CuteKitty: give it a minute and repeat the command
[22:19] <CuteKitty>  mcphail: OerHeks tiox  dmesg | tail does make mention of a "32.0 GB" thing
[22:20] <OerHeks> looks ready
[22:20] <tiox> Hmm.
[22:20] <stueng> hi, having problems with a wireless device. lspci shows  Intel 3945ABG connection. The little indicator hardware light on the front of the laptop isnt illuminated though. iwlist scan shows no results.
[22:20] <tiox> Well, try seeing if sdb exists in /dev
[22:20] <tiox> Sounds odd, but try anyway. ls /dev sd*
[22:20] <bibi23> genii-around: the admin group doesn't exist on my server, when I do usermod -aG admin bibi23, it says usermod: group 'admin' does not exist
[22:21] <mcphail> CuteKitty: repeat dmesg | tail when the card has had time to settle
[22:21] <CuteKitty> tiox: i do see a sdb (0 bytes) in /dev folder
[22:21] <genii-around> bibi23: Try adm instead
[22:21] <bibi23> genii-around: oh yes it did it thx
[22:22] <mcphail> bibi23: read the release notes. sudo is changing
[22:22] <kunji> CuteKitty: it might must not be mounted?  Do you see it (well something it's size etc..) in the list when you do sudo fdisk -l   ?
[22:22] <kunji> *just
[22:23] <CuteKitty> tiox:  ls /dev sd* here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1012239/
[22:23] <tiox> Uhm, huh?
[22:23] <tiox> Let me try that again.
[22:23] <CuteKitty> mcphail: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1012242/, after 5 minutes
[22:23] <ActionPa1snip> bibi_: what is the output of: uname -a   please
[22:23] <tiox> I failed.
[22:24] <tiox> But yeah, if you see sdb, means Linux should see it.
[22:24] <mcphail> CuteKitty: I vaguely recall that some of these big disks are coming formatted with a non-vfat filesystem. Perhaps all you need is a reformat. Is there anything important on the card?
[22:24] <tiox> (I should have said /dev/sd*, but it's irrelevant
[22:25] <tiox> She said it was brand new.
[22:25] <kunji> mcphail: That's where I was going to go once we verified that it is being seen at all
[22:25] <kunji> ^_^
[22:25] <tiox> Does disk utility see the card, CuteKitty?
[22:25] <CuteKitty> kunji: sudo fdisk -l here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1012245/
[22:25] <CuteKitty> tiox: gparted does not see the 32 GB card
[22:26] <OerHeks> sudo gparted ?
[22:26] <bob__> the compiz icnon is on my launcher panel but can seem to be able to access it whats going on?
[22:26] <CuteKitty> OerHeks: yes, i ran gparted as "sudo gparted"
[22:26] <OerHeks> CuteKitty, if it exists, select the card in right top corner
[22:26] <tiox> OerHeks: She shouldn't have to install gparted when disk utility hands format tasks just as well.
[22:26] <tiox> Well, she did lawl
[22:26] <kunji> OerHeks: gparted is not installed by default, but I think it's always good to have, so installing it would be good
[22:26] <mcphail> OerHeks: gksudo, surely
[22:27] <CuteKitty> OerHeks: oh, i had to choose the top-right corneR? oops
[22:27] <tiox> And gparted did not see the drive?
[22:27] <CuteKitty> OerHeks:  tiox i see a 29.0 gb thing in Gparted
[22:27] <kunji> mcphail: well, you can use gparted in the terminal, but the GUI makes things so much easier
[22:27] <CuteKitty> OerHeks: tiox kunji mcphail and it's called sdb
[22:27] <tiox> Try right-clicking on the sdb partition and mounting it.
[22:27] <genii-around> kunji: sudo grep root /etc/shadow  ... root:*:14956:0:99999:7:::     <-- asterisk in second field
[22:27] <OerHeks> oer@oerpc:~$ gparted Root privileges are required for running gparted.
[22:28] <mcphail> kunji: graphical programs shouldn't be run with sudo
[22:28] <CuteKitty> tiox: mount in gparted?
[22:28] <tiox> rYep.
[22:28] <tiox> Yep*
[22:28] <kunji> mcphail: I'm saying you can run it sans graphics
[22:28] <tiox> If the drive mounts there, you should be set.
[22:28] <mcphail> kunji: ok ;)
[22:28] <CuteKitty> tiox:  http://i.imgur.com/bb1r9.png
[22:28] <CuteKitty> how do i mount?
[22:29] <kunji> yep tiox, though maybe want to deal with setting it up to automount as well?
[22:29] <tiox> Just select sdb from the dropdown to the right, then in the list mount sdb1
[22:29] <kunji> genii-around: what was that grep about ?
[22:29] <tiox> Right-click and choose mount, if not mounted already.
[22:29]  * mcphail suspects the drive is formatted as ExFAT and will need reformatted to work in Linux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT
[22:29] <CuteKitty> tiox: when i right click on the 29.88 gb row, there is no option to moutn
[22:30] <OerHeks> it is, sdb is empty. never seen a brand new sd card unformatted.
[22:30] <CuteKitty> mcphail: i odn't mind formatting this crazy brand-new sd card. what's the fastest way?
[22:30] <ZenMaster> Rocking six screens in here. :) To bad its not on one machine though. But it is better it is across a few different ones for the tasks that I perform.
[22:30] <genii-around> kunji: It shows the default status of root user on an ubuntu server install.
[22:30] <CuteKitty> OerHeks: http://i.imgur.com/bb1r9.png shows it as unallocated partition and unallocated file system
[22:30] <kunji> genii-around: ah, thanks ^_^
[22:30] <genii-around> eg: Disabled
[22:31] <mcphail> CuteKitty: disk utility, gparted, command line - all the same. Just make sure you format the correct drive!
[22:31] <kunji> OerHeks: yeah, that's what I was thinking about, looking at the fdisk -l output
[22:32] <CuteKitty> mcphail: ok. using disk utility now. which scheme should i choose? 1. master boot record? 2. guid partition table? or 3. don't pratiton?
[22:32] <mcphail> CuteKitty: 1
[22:32] <kunji> CuteKitty: we are dealing with a 32 Gb drive right, so we're sure it's sdb and sdb isn't anything else that might be important?
[22:33] <CuteKitty> kunji: yes, thanks (and thanks to mcphail ) for warning at making sure it's 32 gB sdb.
[22:33] <CuteKitty> yes, sdb is 32 gb and the only 32 GB connected is this crazy brand-new sd card
[22:33] <CuteKitty> Your_Dog: i love your nickname ;-)
[22:34] <Your_Dog> Are you teasing me? grrr....
[22:34] <kunji> CuteKitty: just making sure ^_^, I like gparted myself, but I'm lazy to give directions and disk utility works just as well for this as mcphail says, he'll give directions :)
[22:34] <Your_Dog> Arrf Arf!
[22:34] <Your_Dog> :P
[22:34] <CuteKitty> i tried "master boot record" and disk utility gave this error: "Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdb: Read-only file system
[22:34] <CuteKitty> "
[22:34] <stueng> I have an intel 3945ABG wifi adapter (Lenovo X60 laptop), during installation I am asked which interface to use.. this adapter is one of the choices. But the hardware light on the laptop is not illuminated, the radio is not powering on
[22:34] <CuteKitty> i'll slide the lock tab. :-)
[22:35] <CuteKitty> ok, no more error message
[22:35] <stueng> after installation I can ifconfig wlan0 up and it takes the command, but still no power indicator on the laptop - as such the antennae is not powering on
[22:35] <mcphail> CuteKitty: ha!
[22:35] <CuteKitty> did it take just one microsecND?
[22:35] <kunji> lol I fogot about those lock tabs... was about go crazy wondering why it was read only
[22:36] <CuteKitty> i didn't see any messages tellign me that the formatting is over
[22:36] <mcphail> CuteKitty: maybe. Have you formatted as vfat or simply created the partition?
[22:36] <CuteKitty> mcphail: i just did "format drive" in diskt utility. i do see "create partition" though under.
[22:36] <CuteKitty> should i now do "create partition"?
[22:37] <CuteKitty> for "create a partition" should i choose "Take ownership of filesystem"?
[22:38] <kunji> mcphail: does diskutil not actually perform the actions until the end like gparted?  Or does it do the format like that and then..  each step?
[22:38] <pepee> stueng, that's probably because it is not associated/connected
[22:38] <CuteKitty> mcphail: i didn't see any option for vfat?
[22:39] <pepee> stueng, also, could be related to the LEDs
[22:39] <stueng> pepee: iwlist wlan0 scan shows nothing
[22:39] <CuteKitty> i kept default setting as ext4.
[22:39] <mcphail> kunji: it does them piecemeal as far as i can remember
[22:39] <CuteKitty> now in disk utilty, i see the rotatting pinwheel (showing activity)
[22:39] <CuteKitty> ok. done now
[22:39] <stueng> pepee: this indicator LED needs to be on for the radio to work properly
[22:39] <mcphail> CuteKitty: that'll be fine unless you want to use it with Windows
[22:39] <pepee> stueng, ahh, could be rfkill
[22:39] <stueng> pepee: rfkill ?
[22:39] <kunji> CuteKitty: I would probably do that again, you probably don't want ext4 for a sd card
[22:39] <pepee> stueng, do you have a function button to enable/disable the wifi?
[22:40] <stueng> pepee: its a hardware slider switch, which it turned to the on position
[22:40] <kunji> CuteKitty: right, won't work with windows, or possibly cameras, etc...
[22:40] <CuteKitty> kunji: why don't you want ext4 for sd card? i heard that ext4 is best for linux?
[22:40] <kunji> CuteKitty: but yeah, probably the best one if you're only going to be using it on linux
[22:40] <stueng> pepee: but in addition to this hardware switch there is also a fn button that can power it off yes
[22:40] <CuteKitty> yeah!!! i'm so happy. now, when i plug in the 32 gb card into my slot, it shows up in naitulus. thanks, all.
[22:40] <kunji> np ^_^
[22:41] <mcphail> CuteKitty: enjoy!
[22:41] <pepee> stueng, run this: rfkill list | pastebinit -a anon
[22:41] <CuteKitty> kunji: i plan on using it on just my computer (not camera, which can't take 32 gb cards)
[22:41] <CuteKitty> mcphail: i wonder though why linux wasn't smart enough to tell me that it wasn't formatted or didn't have partitions
[22:41] <CuteKitty> shouldn't ubuntu be for newbies like me?
[22:41] <mcphail> CuteKitty: it _was_ formatted
[22:41] <stueng> pepee: the machine does not have an internet connection to connect to pastebin, I am just waiting for another installation to complete (trying a second laptop of same hardware) and will let you know the outcome
[22:41] <CuteKitty> mcphail: now it is. but before i ran disk utilty, it wasn't
[22:42] <tiox> CuteKitty: Glad we can help.
[22:42] <mcphail> CuteKitty: there is no free ExFAT driver so Linux cannot "see" it
[22:42] <tiox> So that was it?
[22:42] <CuteKitty> mcphail: how do you know my brand-new card was using exfat system?
[22:42] <tiox> The driver was formatted as extended FAT?
[22:42] <mcphail> CuteKitty: all the big cards are now
[22:42] <kunji> CuteKitty: Nice ^_^, hmm, I think most things a newbie would use are formatted though, I was pretty surprised it wasn't... ah ExFAT.. that would explain that
[22:42] <pepee> stueng, ah, ok. I probably won't be in this channel
[22:43] <xclusive585> is there a "non-free" plugin for ExFAT?
[22:43] <mcphail> CuteKitty: it works on Windows and that's all "anyone" cares about
[22:43] <tiox> Do note CuteKitty, if you are to ever format the card again in Windows, the you'll have to specify FAT from command line.
[22:43] <mcphail> xclusive585: only through FUSE
[22:43] <stueng> pepee: what is this rfkill ?
[22:43] <tiox> Otherwise WIndows will offer only ExFAT or NTFS in their format GUI.
[22:43] <mcphail> xclusive585: not in kernel
[22:43] <CuteKitty> mcphail: i guess i won't complain that ubuntu didn't see it, just as long as i have mcphail, tiox, kunji, and OerHeks here in the chatroom
[22:43] <tiox> Well, don't be entirely dependant on us, lol
[22:43] <pepee> stueng, the manpage says "rfkill - tool for enabling and disabling wireless devices"
[22:44] <tiox> Half the fun with Ubuntu is finding the solutions yourself through Google. :)
[22:44] <kunji> Hmm, tiox, I might just go with NTFS for it myself in that case.
[22:44] <CuteKitty> ok. question now. is it faster to move my files from lnux hard drive to SD card, or from linux hard drive to windows partition (on same hard drive)?
[22:44] <xclusive585> Why the need for ExFAT anyways? Just microsoft being themselves? From what I understand FAT 32 has no real limits...
[22:44] <pepee> stueng, it's some device to enable and disable the wifi by hardware and software I think
[22:44] <tiox> What?
[22:45] <tiox> Well, that depends.
[22:45] <stueng> pepee: seems the command I need to try is rfkill unblock
[22:45] <EliahKagan> xclusive585, FAT32 (without extensions) doesn't support files bigger than 4 GiB
[22:45] <mcphail> xclusive585: there are vague limits on individual files with vfat
[22:45] <tiox> If you are doing multiple operations, then nautilus slows to a crawl.
[22:45] <pepee> stueng, yep
[22:45] <stueng> when the install is complete :P
[22:45] <tiox> If it's an all-at-once move, then nautilus should do the job just fine.
[22:45] <CuteKitty> tiox: yes, a while ago, i tried to move about 8 GB of my personal files to Windows partition, and my naitulus was taking 98% of computer processor and ram
[22:46] <CuteKitty> tiox: is the suggested way to move files to do so little by little?
[22:46] <mcphail> CuteKitty: I do all my big transfers from the command line. But the _best_ way is with rsync ;)
[22:46] <xclusive585> Eli, McPhail: vfat is what cards are when they are not ExFAT, correct?
[22:46] <CuteKitty> tiox: i wasn't doing multiple operations. i was doing it as one big copy/move. and it slowed down so much
[22:46] <tiox> Probably.
[22:46] <ActionPa1snip> CuteKitty: or run nautilus with a nice value of 15 :)
[22:46] <ironhalik> Anyone noticed eclipse behaving odd, every other hotkey being punched? :>
[22:46] <kunji> CuteKitty: between the partitions most likely, but then again, it's the same drive...  I'm not actually sure.  I haven't had problems moving lots of files with Nautilus for the past few releases.
[22:46] <tiox> She has to learn how to nice operations in terminal then.
[22:47] <tiox> :P
[22:47] <ActionPa1snip> tiox: useful though
[22:47] <CuteKitty> if i change nautilisu's nice number to 15 in system processor, will that hepl?
[22:47] <tiox> Iwas wondering if there was a GU that handles nicing and other stuff.
[22:47] <mcphail> xclusive585: some oof them use NTFS
[22:47] <CuteKitty> tiox: yes, you can change nice number in system processor
[22:47] <kunji> rsync over ssh scheduled with cron ^_^ oh backups are wonderful
[22:47] <CuteKitty> tiox: i mean system monitor
[22:47] <tiox> You mean, gnome system monitor?
[22:48] <tiox> Yes.
[22:48] <tiox> Well try it.
[22:48] <CuteKitty> tiox: is it faster to move or to copy?
[22:48] <xclusive585> figures, NTFS on something meant to be cross platform. =P
[22:48] <CuteKitty> or same speed?
[22:48] <tiox> It is faster to move.
[22:48] <tiox> Copy, nautilus has to duplicate on top of transfer.
[22:48] <CuteKitty> ok. is it faster to move to Win7 (on same partition) or to SD card?
[22:48] <stueng> pepee: rfkill is not installed
[22:48] <tiox> Does speed matter if the job gets done?
[22:48] <CuteKitty> oops. i meant "same hard drive" (seperate partition)
[22:49] <tiox> More than likely it would be about the same.
[22:49] <CuteKitty> tiox: no, speed doesn't matter too much.
[22:49] <kunji> Well, tiox, mv is faster on the same partition, is that still true between partitions, I'm not convinced outright that there would be a significant difference.
[22:49] <pepee> stueng, ahh, I thought it was installed by default
[22:49] <mcphail> CuteKitty: some SD card writes can be slow, but writing to NTFS can be slow as well
[22:49] <stueng> pepee: could be, this is a minimal server install
[22:49] <mcphail> kunji: mv on tthe same partition doesn't physically move anything
[22:50] <tiox> Some things on computers simply take time/
[22:50] <kunji> Exactly ^_^
[22:50] <Biafra> Okay... figured out my unable to load the installer off my USB problem: my b43 wlan card wanted either firmware or blacklisting before it would even deign to let me load the installer
[22:50] <kunji> That's why it's faster ^_^
[22:50] <Biafra> this shouldn't happen
[22:50] <mcphail> kunji: but you can't hard-link across partitions so no advantage for  mv there
[22:50] <xclusive585> yea cutekitty, before you left earlier I was going to say, your speed will be limited doing what you're doing simply because you are reading and writing to the same disk, and the overhead for reading/writing NTFS in linux isn't going to help either.
[22:51] <CuteKitty> mcphail: ActionPa1snip  tiox. using system monitor, i changed nautilus's nice number to -15, and not "15", as ActionPa1snip wrote
[22:51] <kunji> Right mcphail, that's why I was saying I don't think you would see any significant difference between mv and cp between partitions
[22:51] <mcphail> kunji: missed that. sorry
[22:51] <kunji> ^_^, it's cool
[22:52] <tiox> Wait a second... is nicing just an operation priority setting?
[22:52] <tiox> nice rather.
[22:52] <metodi> hello there
[22:52] <kunji> Yep tiox
[22:52] <xclusive585> tiox, yes
[22:52] <tiox> So putting it at -15 means do all else before it.
[22:52] <metodi> can you guys please give me some info about m-aduio drivers for ubuntu ?
[22:52] <CuteKitty> moving my "audio" folder to the 32gb sd card. speed ranges from 3.2-5.X mb/sec
[22:53] <tiox> Again, speed doesn't really matter so long the job gets done.
[22:53] <metodi> have one firewire 410 from m-audio
[22:53] <mcphail> metodi: just ask your question. Someone may know
[22:53] <kunji> Other way I believe, isn't -15 high priority, or am I misremembering?  The scale is -20 to 20
[22:53] <CuteKitty> tiox: actually, the biggest number is -20, but i chose the number 15 because that's what ActionPa1snip suggested
[22:53] <tiox> Though, operations may be completed faster with an upgrade to the computer's physical RAM.
[22:53] <metodi> looks like theresno solution for it
[22:53] <xclusive585> Cute kitty if you have to choose, do the write to the hard drive, even being slow as it is it should be faster than writing to SD...
[22:53] <kunji> I thought he said 15 to give it low priority and alleviate the issue with it taking lots of cpu
[22:53] <mcphail> kunji: yes. Users can't drop nice below zero
[22:53] <tiox> Oooh.... so -20 means highest priority.
[22:54] <CuteKitty> xclusive585: ok. after mv to sd card is done, i'll try mv to win7 partition on same hard rdive to compare speeds
[22:54] <tiox> And 20 means lowest.
[22:54] <tiox> Amirite?
[22:54] <CuteKitty> 21 minutes left for mv.
[22:54] <alankila> tiox: that is why it's called nice. The higher the nice value, the nicer you are
[22:54] <CuteKitty> alankila: interesting explanation!
[22:54] <kunji> mcphail:  I might not remember correctly, but I think I have dropped things below 0 as a user
[22:54]  * tiox has a nice of 10
[22:54] <andygraybeal> hey, it appears my 'startup disk creator' app doesn't work with dvd?  i'm confused about this.
[22:54] <kunji> mcphail: let me try it real quick ^_^
[22:54] <CuteKitty> alankila: that means that being nice means letting other people get what they want before you do.
[22:55] <alankila> I doubt cpu is in that short supply these days though, as we have bunch of multicores, cgroup scheduling, etc. ionice, now that's another story
[22:55] <mcphail> kunji: i think it ignores any negative numbers as a normal user
[22:55] <tiox> Yeah, using negative nubers, you have to sudo nice.
[22:55] <mcphail> kunji: but it has been a long time since i've tried
[22:55] <alankila> CuteKitty: quite correct. unix is firmly rooted in altruistic tradition, it seems.
[22:55] <kunji> mcphail: nah, you were right, get an error message, I must have been doing something with elevated privileges
[22:55] <tiox> That or sudo - then nice from root.
[22:55] <mcphail> alankila: quite
[22:56] <tiox> Wait, sudo -i rather
[22:56] <ActionPa1snip> !away | cuteK-afk
[22:57] <tiox> You know it makes me wonder, why isn't negative nice called mean? lol
[22:57] <ActionPa1snip> tiox: its because you are inversely nice to OTHER processes
[22:57] <ActionPa1snip> tiox: I have my LPI book here :)
[22:57] <tiox> lol
[22:58]  * mcphail creates a bash alias
[22:58] <tiox> But the inverse of nice is mean! And I am sorry for producing so much noise.
[22:58] <alankila> tiox: sometimes you are just so unnice to us
[22:58] <tiox> I am. :(
[22:58] <ActionPa1snip> tiox: hehe, I guess, you could make an alias: mean='nice -'
[22:59] <anli__> What is making libre office impossible to start?
[22:59] <ActionPa1snip> tiox: tiox then you could run: mean10 cmd
[22:59] <anli__> Nothing happens
[22:59] <ActionPa1snip> anli__: run it from terminal, the output will be useful
[22:59] <anli__> ah
[23:00] <tiox> One of the many joys of Linux.
[23:00] <xclusive585> ANLI: "New bug #1005674 in libreoffice (main): "LibreOffice crashes on load with a specific user" [Undecided, New]
[23:00] <tiox> Does nice have command switches?
[23:00] <xclusive585> thanks ubotu JINX
[23:01] <tiox> The mean= 'nice -' might be a problem if nice has switches prior to the nuber.
[23:01] <tiox> number*
[23:02] <anli__> ActionPa1snip: Hm, actually the output was not more useful than the one I got when using the menu
[23:02] <anli__> It just closes
[23:02] <lebro> Does ubuntu package any supported pulseaudio equalizer?
[23:03] <ActionPa1snip> anli__: so there is no output in the terminal at all?
[23:03] <anli__> no
[23:03] <alankila> lebro: there's some hacks to get pulse to load ladspa plugin and then configure that, but it's sort of static and annoying
[23:03] <anli__> I get the libre office splash screen btw
[23:04] <ActionPa1snip> anli__: if you run:   ps -ef | grep office     is it running still?
[23:04] <lebro> alankila: ah thanks, ill look into it
[23:04]  * alankila has had it in mind to write sound processing support for pulse since forever.
[23:04] <anli__> no, ah, now I recognize the behavior, if the disk is full, libre office fails to product an error message
[23:07] <tiox> Question about using aliases...
[23:07] <tiox> If an alias is used where a command in involved with other aliases, would it still work?
[23:07] <ActionPa1snip> anli__: is the disk full?
[23:07] <ActionPa1snip> anli__: df -h    will show you
[23:08] <tiox> Because... since I am on hardcore Windows at the moment, I want to set it up so I can use dir in lieu of ls. But other alises use ls in the command.
[23:08] <tiox> Rather, in other alisese.
[23:08] <tiox> alises*
[23:08] <alankila> tiox: don't do it. Learn each environment properly.
[23:08] <ActionPa1snip> tiox: there will only be one substitution as far as I know
[23:08] <alankila> anyway "dir" should work already, I imagine someone aliased that...
[23:09] <EliahKagan> alankila, it's not actually an alias, its behavior differs from ls in a subtle way
[23:09] <tiox> Oh nevermind, I am just being a dumb.
[23:09] <mcphail> tiox: you can simlink /usr/local/bin/dir to ls
[23:09] <alankila> oh. Well could have fooled me, anyway. vdir looks like ls -l to me
[23:09] <tiox> Also, tell that to the people using ll, la and l.
[23:10] <EliahKagan> this explains the difference: http://askubuntu.com/a/103917/22949
[23:10] <EliahKagan> mcphail, you can, provided that /usr/local/bin is in $PATH before /usr/bin
[23:10] <tiox> Unless those are pre-set by bash, that's not properly using ls, that's just applying aliases for ls commands with flags.
[23:11] <cuteK-afk> ActionPa1snip: how do i undo the "/away" command?
[23:11] <ActionPa1snip> cuteK-afk: afaik it's just   /away   again
[23:11] <cuteK-afk> ActionPa1snip: nope
[23:12] <anli__> ActionPa1snip: yes, its full and the libreoffice products are not able to gracefully handle that
[23:12] <mcphail> EliahKagan: if you've set your $PATH correctly it will be ;)
[23:12] <anli__> I cleaned some space and now I can start calc again
[23:12] <stueng> ping?
[23:13] <alankila> hmh. Looks like pulseaudio already has some kind of equalizer sink. I wonder if there's any GUI to configure it.
[23:13] <mcphail> cuteK-afk: to set away you need "/away reason". To unset it is just "/away"
[23:13] <tiox> anli__: You didn't complete that statement; libreoffice products are nto able to gracefully handle that because active documents are autosaved to a temporary directory until exit.
[23:13] <tiox> not*
[23:14] <ActionPa1snip> anli__: try:  sudo apt-get clean
[23:14] <tiox> Reason, of course, is to recover after sudden failure.
[23:14] <anli__> I already cleaned some space
[23:14] <ActionPa1snip> anli__: also uninstall unused kernels
[23:14] <cuteK-afk> mcphail: when i do just "/away", i am told "Already marked away: walking the doggy"
[23:14] <tiox> Fun.
[23:14] <anli__> What I expect of a program is to product an error message if it has to shut down
[23:15] <cuteK-afk> guys, mv to Win7 partition is much faster than mv to sd card.
[23:15] <ActionPa1snip> anli__: yeah its not very graceful is it :(
[23:15] <tiox> anli__: There is a reason i did not specify sudden failure; the program can fail indirectly due to a power outage and no UPS or battery to take over.
[23:15] <anli__> yes, but producing an error message if the disk is full is not rocket science :)
[23:15] <alankila> cuteK-afk: not surprising. If you have a class 6 card, your speed is capped at 6 MB/s for the sd card. A harddisk will generally work 10 times faster than that.
[23:16] <kunji> CuteK-afk: that's what I suspected, regarding the transfer speeds.
[23:16] <cuteK-afk> mv to sd card: 3.5 MB/sec. mv to Win7 partiton: 25 MB/sec. :-)
[23:16] <tiox> I lol at this: LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.
[23:17] <tiox> This happens when I run pidgin from my primary hard disk with the c flag.
[23:17] <kunji> 25 nice ^_^
[23:17] <tiox> (I don;t feel like maintaining a second set of files for Pidgin on Linux.)
[23:18] <kunji> Time for sleep, nights all, good luck with everything ^_^
[23:21] <arohner> hi, I have multiple mirrors in my apt sources list, but one of them (us-east-1.ec2) is failing. apt-get doesn't appear to be trying other mirrors. Is there a way to fix that?
[23:23] <Chuck_Norris> arohner: pate the error
[23:23] <blackshirt> arohner. you can remove them
[23:23] <Chuck_Norris> meinwhile Chuck_Norris... http://i.imgur.com/LUHZv.jpg
[23:23] <arohner> Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/main libcap2 amd64 1:2.21-2
[23:23] <arohner>   403  Forbidden [IP: 10.250.142.223 80]
[23:23] <mobilenoob11> Whats the best way to modify the envir variable, such as $PATH ?
[23:23] <tiox> Oh wow, CCSM actually has a warning now.
[23:24] <three18ti> Chuck_Norris doesn't use a desktop, he just round-house kicks the computer in the face.
[23:24] <arohner> blackshirt: I know I can remove them manually. I'm trying to script a machine setup, so I'd really like some kind of automatic failover
[23:24] <OerHeks> Chuck_Norris, nice desktop +1
[23:24] <arohner> E: Failed to fetch http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcap2/libcap2_2.21-2_amd64.deb: 403  Forbidden [IP: 10.250.142.223 80]
[23:25] <Chuck_Norris> OerHeks: ty do ya want mah conky config?
[23:25] <blackshirt> arohner: are you using proxy ?
[23:25] <arohner> blackshirt: no
[23:25] <shaneo> g
[23:26] <mcphail> arohner: are you sure you did apt-get update before trying to pull that? That version might not exist any more
[23:26] <Chuck_Norris> arohner: maybe that PPA doesent have packages for Precise
[23:26] <OerHeks> Chuck_Norris, post it on http://ubuntuforums.org/ i believe there is a section "show your conkyrc"
[23:26] <blackshirt> arohner: are you sure using archive mirror
[23:26] <arohner> yes, I apt-get update'd. I'm getting that 403 on every package. this isn't a PPA, it's standard packages
[23:27] <mcphail> !info libcap2
[23:27] <Chuck_Norris> but OerHeks ok, i'll do that
[23:27] <amites> Anyone know if it's possible to get Gnome 3 to work with llvmpipe on 12.04?
[23:27] <arohner> this is a clean EC2 box, using the official 11.10 image
[23:27] <i7c> is there any reason why resolv.conf is not updated by openvpn on 12.04 ?? where there any changes?
[23:27] <mobilenoob11> Where does bash keep the config on this Ubuntu?
[23:28] <mcphail> i7c: yes. Read the release notes
[23:29] <tiox> Is it a good idea to persue installation of OpenJDK 7?
[23:29] <tiox> pursue*
[23:29] <tiox> OpenJDK/OpenJRE tather.
[23:29] <RiXtEr-Home> mobilenoob11, i'd say under ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile
[23:30] <blackshirt> arohner: look your repos not reachable
[23:30] <mobilenoob11> thanks, must be rc, profile is no.
[23:30] <Guest90547> Hello
[23:30] <CuteKitty> how do i undelete/unempty my trash?
[23:31] <spdupee> over 12 hours now and no crashes
[23:32] <spdupee> yeh
[23:33] <spdupee> update-apt-xapian-index -f was all it took
[23:33] <Fyodorovna> CuteKitty, do you mean recover the deleted from the trash, not sure you can.
[23:34] <spdupee> is there any way to recover a raid 0 drive?
[23:34] <CuteKitty> Fyodorovna: yes, that's what i mean
[23:35] <ActionPa1snip> spdupee: using backups will be far easier
[23:35] <Fyodorovna> CuteKitty, https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/files-recover.html
[23:35] <ActionPa1snip> tiox: if openjdk gives what you need, why not :)
[23:37] <Frank123> hello im using ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-session-fallback and sometimes i get kicked to the loging screen like session crash... what could be the cause?
[23:37] <ActionPa1snip> Frank123: check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:38] <ActionPa1snip> Frank123: does it happen in other sessions?
[23:38] <JuJuBee> I need some advice.  Ihave a laptop with 2 HD.  I have / along with Win on 1 drive and /home and swap on the other.  I want to replace the /home & swap drive with a new HD.  How  should I start (already backed up /home)
[23:39] <Frank123> no idea installed today and switched to fallback mode and now it is 2 time it happen
[23:39] <ActionPa1snip> JuJuBee: just replace the drive, you can restore the data from backup and setup the swap, all you will need to do is change the UUID in /etc/fstab to use the ones of the new partitions
[23:40] <stueng> how can I start pulseaudio if I dont have a DE and just a xwindow?
[23:40] <JuJuBee> Ive never created  partitions from cli and if I remove /home, I won't be able to use GUI
[23:40] <stueng> nor do I have or want lightdm
[23:42] <stueng> also how do I remove a package which other packages depend on, I want to force its removal but nothing that depend son it
[23:43] <zykotick9> stueng: i guess you don't understand what "depends" means
[23:43] <stueng> depends is what whoever made the package beleives is a dependancy
[23:44] <ki7rw> anyone have a recommendation for voip software? especially one that provides caller id to the called party?
[23:44] <stueng> I need to remove a package which is not 100% critical to what depends on it
[23:44] <alankila> stueng: you can use dpkg and just force the depend, --force-depend probably. Ugly things may happen.
[23:44] <skel> ki7rw: google voice?
[23:44] <undecim> Can I add places to the "Copy To" and "Move to" options in nautilus?
[23:45] <stueng> ok thanks, I was reading the man page but misunderstood the syntax
[23:45] <MonkeyDust> skel  google is a no-no here
[23:45] <skel> MonkeyDust: really? why's that?
[23:45] <MonkeyDust> skel  type !google to find out
[23:45] <stueng> alankila: sorry I dont understand the syntax still... I want to force removal of libasound2
[23:46] <skel> !google
[23:46] <Sidewinder> stueng, You're not alone; many of the man pages, when it comes to the syntax confuses the 'ell outta' me.
[23:46] <stueng> alankila: I tried dpkg --force-removal --remove libasound2
[23:46] <ki7rw> skel: don't see google voice in a ubuntu package
[23:46] <stueng> alankila: sorry I mean --force-depends
[23:46] <skel> ki7rw: it's a web service, completely web based.
[23:46] <skel> MonkeyDust: that has nothing to do with google voice
[23:46] <skel> MonkeyDust: or suggesting google services
[23:47] <alankila> this sounds like incredibly bad idea to me. asound2 may be fairly central to any number of programs, to the point they will no longer even load because of linking problem
[23:47] <MonkeyDust> skel  i thought you meant 'search voice on google'
[23:47] <skel> MonkeyDust: ah ok =]
[23:47] <Sidewinder> MonkeyDust, I was gonna' say..
[23:47] <alankila> stueng: in any case that syntax looks correct to me
[23:48] <stueng> alankila: got it I was missing an "s" after depend :P
[23:48] <MonkeyDust> in ieder geval......
[23:48] <skel> ki7rw: voice.google.com is the service, voip is a combination of a service+clients
[23:48] <ki7rw> i don't understand why skype doesn't have that feature - very good audio quality though
[23:48] <skel> ki7rw: so google voice is one way you could do it with the browser being the client, there are apps out there too that will work with google voice
[23:49] <ki7rw> much better rates than my local phone service
[23:49] <skel> ki7rw: yeah skypes an option too. I haven't tried it recently. I think Microsoft bought it and I've heard they've been doing good things there.
[23:49]  * ki7rw will just have to experiment
[23:50] <skel> does anyone know if there is native ability to tie my Unity calendar into my google calendar?
[23:50] <skel> or vice versa rather I guess
[23:54] <undecim> skel: Unity calendar?
[23:57] <skel> undecim: um, whatever that calendar is thats in the unity status bar with the time/date
[23:58] <undecim> skel: Well AFAIK, that calendar doesn't to anything more than show you the day numbers... No events
[23:58] <skel> undecim: ah ok
[23:59] <ki7rw> anyone know how to use mangler? i.e. how do you set up an account?
[23:59] <TheKaddy> if I use a .sh to start/kill a java derby server, how do ensure I will be returned to a prompt at the exit of the .sh? my cursor is sitting at the newline, but there is no prompt. what's this?