[19:32] <highvoltage> stgraber: another thing that we lost via ubuntu seeds was gnome-games. (which lead to us losing things like glchess, gnibbles, etc)
[19:32] <highvoltage> stgraber: I suggest that we add gnome-games back
[19:32] <highvoltage> stgraber: and I think since we can't ship stellarium on arm and since we want consistant packages across architectures, it's probably best to remove it
[19:34] <stgraber> highvoltage: ok, I'll remove stellarium. For gnome-games, can you check what dependencies that'd bring? for example I don't really want us to become the clutter maintainers ;)
[19:35] <stgraber> stellarium dropped
[19:35] <highvoltage> stgraber: I installed it on the livecd, no clutter, and in total it's around 10MB of .deb downloads
[19:36] <highvoltage> stgraber: ah, I lied
[19:36] <highvoltage> stgraber: there's libclutter :-/
[19:36]  * highvoltage checks what needs it
[19:36] <stgraber> k, no thanks then :) maybe the desktop team will start getting clutter stuff this cycle and we'll get it for free then
[19:37] <stgraber> also clutter performance on arm sucks apparently, I want any package we add to the seeds to be tested on armhf or we'll just end up having to remove them later on...
[19:37] <highvoltage> ok, so if I remove libclutter, then gnibbles, gnome-games, lightsoff, quadrapassel and swell-foop are emoved
[19:37] <highvoltage> *removed
[19:38] <highvoltage> so perhaps we should just ship the ones that doesn't depend on clutter (which at least still gives us a chess game)
[19:39] <stgraber> assuming the non-clutter ones are usable on arm
[19:40] <stgraber> highvoltage: did you end up getting a pandaboard @RLNX or are you still using the beagles?
[19:40] <highvoltage> stgraber: I think the pandaboard I have here is technically supposed to go back to the client, but they haven't collected it yet
[19:42] <stgraber> highvoltage: k, I think it'd be best to get Ubuntu 12.04 installed on a panda, install the video driver, then install edubuntu-desktop and check what works/what doesn't
[19:42] <stgraber> maybe try to upgrade to 12.10 but I'm not sure if that works yet
[19:42] <stgraber> ogra_: ^
[19:44] <highvoltage> stgraber, alkisg, mgariepy: btw we have an edubuntu meeting tomorrow
[19:44] <alkisg> highvoltage: ah nice, what time?
[19:44] <highvoltage> alkisg: 19:00 UTC
[19:45] <alkisg> Hmmm I'm not sure if I can make it, I'll try though
[19:45] <highvoltage> ok, we'll run through recent changes and work items and post the results to the list
[19:45] <highvoltage> I'd like to talk to the EC as well about sponsorship for Edubuntu, but we could perhaps do that by mail instead
[20:36] <jbicha> the Ubuntu Desktop Team plans to ship clutter on the 12.10 CD...
[20:37] <jbicha> totem will depend on it, gnome-sushi (a quick-previewer for nautilus) needs it...
[20:37] <highvoltage> http://tranzistors.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/progress-on-gnome-lockdown-2-mockups/
[20:38] <highvoltage> jbicha: thanks for the info