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pitti | Good morning | 03:40 |
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slangasek | pitti: <blink> isn't this a bit early, even for you? :) | 03:43 |
pitti | yeah, I usually sleep another hour or so after my wife gets up, but couldn't any more | 03:44 |
pitti | we have a thunderstorm here | 03:44 |
RAOF | A morning thunderstorm? | 03:46 |
RAOF | Curious | 03:46 |
pitti | RAOF: it got high time for some rain, anyway :) | 03:48 |
larsduesing | Good morning! | 05:33 |
larsduesing | could be anybody so kind, and have a look after https://code.launchpad.net/~lars.duesing/ubuntu/quantal/aiccu/aiccu-apport-fix/+merge/107351, please? | 05:33 |
rickspencer3 | good morning pitti ... yet more beer! | 05:59 |
pitti | almost :) | 05:59 |
pitti | rickspencer3: good morning to you! | 06:00 |
rickspencer3 | now we need to get the daily tests going | 06:00 |
rickspencer3 | good morning pitti :) | 06:00 |
rickspencer3 | nice to wake up to a cup of coffee irl, and a beer on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/precise_probs.html | 06:01 |
StevenK | rickspencer3: That could be because precise is released ... :-) | 06:01 |
pitti | rickspencer3: oh, precise -- you should be looking at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/quantal_probs.html :) | 06:01 |
rickspencer3 | d'oh! | 06:01 |
pitti | hence pitti | almost :) | 06:02 |
rickspencer3 | stupid browser history | 06:02 |
rickspencer3 | that omap4 linux is still there, I see | 06:02 |
rickspencer3 | well, *close* to a beer ;) | 06:02 |
pitti | yeah, seems the ti-omap kernel guys don't like that package, it ceases to exist at every other upload | 06:02 |
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dholbach | good morning | 06:53 |
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dholbach | @pilot in | 07:31 |
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tsdgeos | dholbach: I have a upstream patch that's been accepted in Qt that i'd like to get in Ubuntu's Qt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/999522 Any hint on how to proceed? | 08:22 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 999522 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Fix problems in Qt dragging when all of the window target has been shaped out for input" [Undecided,New] | 08:22 |
dholbach | tsdgeos, do you know why it hasn't been accepted upstream? | 08:27 |
tsdgeos | dholbach: upstream=Qt? | 08:27 |
tsdgeos | dholbach: it *has* been accepted upstream | 08:27 |
dholbach | ahhhh | 08:27 |
dholbach | ok | 08:27 |
dholbach | sorry, I misread | 08:27 |
dholbach | is it in Q already? | 08:28 |
tsdgeos | nope, there hasn't been a Qt release with it yet, so it isn't part of any ubuntu package as far as i know | 08:29 |
dholbach | ok, I see | 08:29 |
dholbach | I can help you get it into Q, which is one of the first steps of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 08:29 |
dholbach | tsdgeos, would you mind adding some information to the bug report according to the documentation? | 08:30 |
tsdgeos | i can try | 08:30 |
dholbach | cool, thanks a bunch | 08:30 |
tsdgeos | not sure what's missing though :D | 08:30 |
dholbach | impact of the bug, test-case, possibility of regressions, etc. | 08:31 |
cjwatson | test case is the most important one | 08:31 |
dholbach | just some more information for those who want to assess and test it, who haven't been following the unity-2d bugs closely | 08:31 |
tsdgeos | there's a link to the bug and there's a test case there | 08:32 |
cjwatson | it must be in the Ubuntu bug | 08:32 |
tsdgeos | i can copy & past if that's what you want | 08:32 |
cjwatson | SRU verification is a bottleneck and it's important for uploaders to cooperate in keeping it smooth | 08:32 |
tsdgeos | c&p done | 08:33 |
dholbach | tsdgeos, is there a way to get the resulting patch from https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,24361 easily? :) | 08:37 |
tsdgeos | You actually only want https://codereview.qt-project.org/#patch,unified,24361,12,src/gui/kernel/qdnd_x11.cpp | 08:37 |
tsdgeos | since we don't ship the unittests | 08:38 |
tsdgeos | well, qt doesn't ship the unittests | 08:38 |
tsdgeos | so we don't etiher | 08:38 |
dholbach | ok, thanks | 08:38 |
tsdgeos | If it helps | 08:39 |
tsdgeos | there's http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/commit/c3eb2e63425c47b8e3eeb7416e225fab10c5c15a too | 08:39 |
dholbach | perfect | 08:39 |
dholbach | I don't use git very often, nor the codereview.qt page :) | 08:40 |
dholbach | does anybody know what might be crashing in https://launchpadlibrarian.net/106359743/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-i386.sphinx_1.1.3%2Bdfsg-4ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz? is it xvfb? | 08:41 |
tsdgeos | dholbach: updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/999522 | 08:42 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 999522 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Fix problems in Qt dragging when all of the window target has been shaped out for input" [Undecided,New] | 08:42 |
dholbach | thanks tsdgeos | 08:42 |
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debfx | dholbach, tsdgeos: I want to merge and update Qt in quantal anyway so I don't mind adding the patch from bug #999522 on top of it | 09:09 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 999522 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] Fix problems in Qt dragging when all of the window target has been shaped out for input" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/999522 | 09:09 |
dholbach | debfx, that'd be awesome | 09:09 |
dholbach | tsdgeos, does this only need to be fixed in quantal and precise? | 09:10 |
tsdgeos | dholbach: well, it does affect precise, and since it's an LTS i'd really appreciate if it was fixed there too | 09:10 |
* dholbach nods | 09:11 | |
dholbach | ok, I just saw that somebody added bug tasks for precise as well, so we're all set | 09:11 |
tsdgeos | great :) tx | 09:14 |
Laney | broder: could it be that backportpackage doesn't pass -v0 when the package is NEW in the destination release? | 09:31 |
pitti | ev: hey Evan, how are you? | 09:34 |
pitti | ev: I'd appreciate a quick look at https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/ubiquity/ubuntu-drivers-common/+merge/107744 | 09:35 |
ev | I'm good, how are you? | 09:35 |
ev | sure | 09:35 |
pitti | ev: I'm great, thanks! had a nice weekend, and you? | 09:35 |
ev | yeah, loving this sunny weather | 09:35 |
pitti | ev: in particular, I'm interested how ubiquity gets the jockey-text -a auto-install drivers into teh target system | 09:35 |
pitti | ev: by copying the installed bits from the live system, or running the plugins again in /target | 09:35 |
pitti | ev: will respond to your retracing mail ASAP | 09:36 |
ev | thanks | 09:36 |
* ev looks over the merge | 09:36 | |
pitti | ev: I have the full install syslog, in case you want to take a look | 09:38 |
ev | pitti: debconf doesn't like multiple things talking to it | 09:38 |
ev | since ubiquity is already talking to it, you need to do something like DEBCONF_DB_REPLACE=configdb DEBCONF_DB_OVERRIDE="Pipe{infd:none outfd:none}" | 09:39 |
ev | err | 09:39 |
ev | DEBCONF_DB_REPLACE=configdb DEBCONF_DB_OVERRIDE="Pipe{infd:none outfd:none}" ubuntu-drivers autoinstall | 09:39 |
pitti | ev: ah, that's why you restart the jockey-backend with those | 09:40 |
ev | precisely | 09:40 |
pitti | ev: ok, that explains the man-db error; I'll fix that | 09:41 |
ev | cheers | 09:41 |
pitti | ev: so is it expected that my /target doesn't have bcmwl-kernel-source? | 09:41 |
ev | pitti: you'll also need to replicate jockey/debian/jockey.ubiquity | 09:43 |
ev | so that the packages get installed in the /target as well | 09:43 |
pitti | ev: ah, that was my question | 09:43 |
pitti | ev: so the plugins don't run again in /target | 09:43 |
ev | pitti: nope, there's no guarantee that /target exists when a plugin is run | 09:44 |
ev | especially for ubi-prepare, which occurs before partitioning | 09:44 |
cjwatson | plugins can define stuff that happens post-install | 09:44 |
pitti | ev: I mean, the targets run only once, and we don't run ubuntu-drivers/jockey again in /target later on | 09:44 |
cjwatson | (i.e. subclass plugin.InstallPlugin) | 09:45 |
ev | ah indeed | 09:45 |
pitti | ev, cjwatson: ack, so I'll provide the counterpart of jockey/debian/jockey.ubiquity | 09:45 |
pitti | I forgot about that one | 09:45 |
cjwatson | dunno if that's what's wanted here, haven't looked at the diff | 09:45 |
pitti | cjwatson: right, I just needed to refresh my memory how drivers got into /target | 09:46 |
cjwatson | yeah, if jockey.ubiquity is a target-config hook, that's preferable to code directly in ubiquity | 09:46 |
pitti | cjwatson: right, jockey-common ships a /u/l/ubiquity/target-config/31jockey_packages | 09:47 |
pitti | I'll put a corresponding script into ubuntu-drivers-common | 09:47 |
pitti | ev: just to be sure, /u/l/ubiquity/target-config/31jockey_packages runs in the live system, not in chroot /target, does it? | 09:49 |
pitti | ev: it calls apt-install, which will install the given package into /target, I presume | 09:49 |
ev | that's my understanding, yes | 09:49 |
pitti | good, thanks | 09:49 |
pitti | I'll give it another full test run with both changes then (debconf env and hook) | 09:50 |
ev | cheers | 09:52 |
ev | I've updated the MP with this discussion | 09:52 |
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dholbach | can somebody please reject https://code.launchpad.net/~logatron/ubuntu/quantal/imagemagick/fix-for-993041/+merge/107156? (patch sent to debian instead) | 10:31 |
pitti | dholbach: done | 10:31 |
dholbach | thanks pitti | 10:31 |
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dholbach | @pilot out | 12:10 |
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Benkinooby | hi, i want to turn off my laptops' backlight in order to use it with strong sunlight. i tried to fiddle with /sys/class/backlight and later with /proc/acpi/video and the xset command (with dpms option) but on luck finally i found out, that /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/DD04/brightness specifies the levels to be set for the backlight and that in can only adjust to the given levels in that file - but the lowest level is 20 and not 0. how can i | 12:25 |
Benkinooby | get to zero? | 12:25 |
Benkinooby | this site supports my findings https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight | 12:26 |
Benkinooby | i'm on ubuntu 10.04 | 12:26 |
ogra_ | sounds like a kernel issue | 12:27 |
Benkinooby | ogra_, i think it is more ubuntu related... | 12:30 |
ogra_ | Benkinooby, well, that file contents are controlled by the kernel | 12:31 |
Benkinooby | ogra_, when reading the website what does "disassembled DSDT" mean? | 12:31 |
Benkinooby | ogra_, ok, didn't know that | 12:31 |
Benkinooby | ah, ok found some hints on google | 12:32 |
ogra_ | DSDT is part of your bios | 12:32 |
ogra_ | its the table defining what HW your machine has | 12:32 |
Benkinooby | ogra_, i'm on http://powersave.sourceforge.net/powersave/DSDT.html ... so i need to find these tables, disassmbel them, edit them (adding the level 0 as supoorted level) recompoile them and then go? | 12:34 |
ogra_ | no idea, i dont use intel hardware :) | 12:35 |
ogra_ | but that might or might not help, i would ask some ACPI/kernel-powermanagement expert ;) | 12:35 |
Benkinooby | ogra_, where can i find them, do you know? | 12:35 |
ogra_ | probably in #ubuntu-kernel | 12:36 |
Benkinooby | ogra_, maybe a mailing list would be more useful than irc... not sure.. also i'm not much of an expert... more like a blind man hitting a bee nest with his stick | 12:36 |
Benkinooby | ogra_, but i'll go for that kernel channel for now :) | 12:37 |
ogra_ | try ubuntu-devel-discuss then | 12:37 |
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Benkinooby | ogra_, thank you for helping me on | 12:37 |
pitti | ev: got back to this now; odd, I still get the "bad fd" error even with that debconf env (I added a print to ubuntu-drivers to verify it's there) | 12:37 |
ogra_ | or the ubuntu-kernel ML :) | 12:39 |
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mterry | ev, hello! So I submitted a crash in quantal, but don't see it in errors.u.c (extended time to a year and still don't see it). Is there another way to see the data? | 13:10 |
larsduesing | short question: until when can I get a debian-package into quantal-universe? | 13:13 |
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Laney | larsduesing: you want to be considering Feature Freeze as the deadline | 13:15 |
larsduesing | ok | 13:15 |
geser | larsduesing: easy till FeatureFreeze (around Aug 23rd), after that you need a freeze exception | 13:15 |
larsduesing | (I have the problem that it is in state "won't compile" - in kfreebsd... ) | 13:16 |
larsduesing | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=667755 | 13:16 |
ubottu | Debian bug 667755 in src:aiccu "aiccu: FTBFS[kfreebsd]:" [Serious,Open] | 13:16 |
geser | larsduesing: quantal syncs from unstable now, but as aiccu has Ubuntu delta it needs a merge to get new Debian revisions of that package into quantal | 13:18 |
larsduesing | yes | 13:19 |
larsduesing | I'm aware of that | 13:19 |
larsduesing | but it won't get to debian unstable - because it won't compile on kfreebsd | 13:19 |
Laney | it already is in unstable | 13:20 |
larsduesing | oh | 13:20 |
larsduesing | wait | 13:20 |
cjwatson | "won't compile on kfreebsd" is the sort of thing that impedes migration to testing, not to unstable. | 13:21 |
larsduesing | sorry... | 13:22 |
pitti | ev: hm, it seems calling apt-get in simple-plugin just doesn't work -- /proc/self/fd/3 is a link to /proc/5146/fd (i. e. to its own directory), which seems to be what apt-get/man-db are stumbling upon | 13:22 |
cjwatson | You should probably use apt-install rather than apt-get directly, unless you need the package to be installed immediately. | 13:22 |
pitti | ev: do you know of any plugins which install packages? | 13:22 |
pitti | cjwatson: ah, that'll work for the live system, too? | 13:23 |
cjwatson | No, apt-install is "queue for installation in target" | 13:23 |
pitti | cjwatson: right, but simple-plugins installs driver packages (such as bcmwl-kernel-source) into the live system, in ubi-prepare | 13:23 |
cjwatson | I don't quite get what you need in the live system - isn't your plugin in the very package you need installed? | 13:23 |
cjwatson | Oh | 13:23 |
pitti | that currently calls jockey-text -a, and has some custom code to launch the d-bus backend with some magic debconf env | 13:24 |
cjwatson | You would have to be careful to do anything like that before the main business of copying stuff starts, I think | 13:24 |
cjwatson | Maybe | 13:24 |
cjwatson | And even then it would need a separate debconf db | 13:24 |
pitti | yes, it's done after checking "3rd party drivers" and finishes before the partitioning screen | 13:24 |
cjwatson | The only stock plugin that installs packages is, I think, usersetup (oem-config-*) | 13:25 |
larsduesing | Ok, another question... how to debug apport-plugins? (at the moment I do a kill -SIGFPE <pid> to get apport to run...) | 13:25 |
pitti | cjwatson: the current code that uses jockey just launches the d-bus backend with DEBCONF_DB_REPLACE=configdb and DEBCONF_DB_OVERRIDE='Pipe{infd:none outfd:none}' | 13:25 |
cjwatson | Right, which is "temporary throwaway db" | 13:25 |
pitti | larsduesing: unless your hook depends on a crash, you can use "apport-bug packagename" | 13:26 |
larsduesing | and I can halt any transfer to launchpad there, too? | 13:26 |
pitti | cjwatson: when I run the apt-get command manually while ubiquity runs, it works; but when ubiquity launches it through simple-plugins, man-db keeps breaking on "3: bad file descriptor", which I can't replicate | 13:27 |
pitti | larsduesing: yes, just don't click on "submit" | 13:27 |
pitti | larsduesing: you can use the expander to see the data, or use "apport-bug --save /tmp/myreport package" to get a file with the data | 13:27 |
larsduesing | I see... being too cautious | 13:28 |
larsduesing | thanks | 13:28 |
pitti | cjwatson: I guess the bad fd is due to fd 3 pointing to its own directory for some reason | 13:28 |
cjwatson | 3 would be the file descriptor that's expected to be usable for writing to the debconf frontend | 13:28 |
pitti | right | 13:28 |
cjwatson | Perhaps you have managed to arrange for it to think there's a debconf frontend running but for it not to be connected, or something | 13:28 |
cjwatson | I'm afraid the best way to debug this is usually to get an strace -f of everything and slog through it | 13:29 |
cjwatson | I've done it before, I can probably have a go if need be | 13:29 |
pitti | cjwatson: it does have DEBIAN_HAS_FRONTEND=1 | 13:29 |
cjwatson | Which means that the debconf confmodule won't launch its own | 13:29 |
pitti | cjwatson: strace -x is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1013051/ | 13:30 |
pitti | err, sh -x | 13:30 |
pitti | getting strace now | 13:30 |
cjwatson | You might need something along the lines of ubiquity.install_misc.debconf_disconnect | 13:30 |
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cjwatson | Oh, yeah, that doesn't look right | 13:30 |
cjwatson | Can you paste the script that you're -x-ing there? | 13:31 |
pitti | cjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1013056/ | 13:32 |
pitti | cjwatson: (the old one called jockey-text -a) | 13:33 |
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pitti | erk, strace says "operation not permitted"; I guess something is already tracing it | 13:34 |
cjwatson | Try adding 'env -u DEBIAN_HAS_FRONTEND -u DEBCONF_REDIR DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive' to the start of that DEBCONF_DB_REPLACE=... command; you need it to start a new frontend | 13:34 |
cjwatson | And to reconnect to it properly | 13:35 |
pitti | cjwatson: yay, that works | 13:37 |
pitti | -u DEBCONF_REDIR was the trick apparently | 13:37 |
pitti | cjwatson: many thanks! | 13:37 |
cjwatson | pitti: It'd probably have been all three (well, at least the first two). You're welcome. | 13:39 |
cjwatson | I wouldn't recommend paring that down to any fewer sets/unsets. | 13:39 |
pitti | cjwatson: I meant, ubuntu-drivers already sets DEBIAN_FRONTEND and removes DEBIAN_HAS_FRONTEND (that was copied from the old jockey code); but I'll now keep all three of them together | 13:40 |
cjwatson | Oh, it does? OK. Just as long as you do that before loading the confmodule. | 13:42 |
pitti | right, that wasn't the case (and part of the problem presumably) | 13:42 |
cjwatson | Personally I prefer to do this outside whatever scripts load the confmodule, to avoid confusion with the confmodule re-execing the calling script. | 13:42 |
cjwatson | Though that's only a problem with the shell confmodule. | 13:42 |
pitti | I just moved it all to simple-plugins, so that the env setup is in one place, before loading confmodule | 13:42 |
pitti | doing it in ubuntu-drivers is both too late, as well as confusing/wrong, as you might want to use it outside of ubiquity, too | 13:43 |
cjwatson | Right; this is an integration problem, rather than something intrinsic to ubuntu-drivers. | 13:43 |
* pitti does a fresh boot/test run now | 13:45 | |
seb128 | is anyone on precise using proposed who could ack that software-center 5.2.2.1 still works fine for them on bug #1002271? | 13:55 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1002271 in software-center (Ubuntu) "REGRESSION: crash in cell renderer" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1002271 | 13:55 |
seb128 | (5.2.2 moved to -updates with a regression and the regression fixes is blocked on verification) | 13:55 |
seb128 | (better if you have the bug mentioned and confirm the update fixes it) | 13:55 |
hallyn | slangasek: would you have any objection to moving the qemu-utils package to qemu-linaro? | 14:00 |
hallyn | hm, i guess that might not work :) i'm being silly | 14:00 |
hallyn | just trying to think how best to line up with what debian is doing (with separate qemu source package providing qemu-utils) | 14:01 |
mdeslaur | seb128: sure, one sec | 14:02 |
seb128 | mdeslaur, thanks | 14:03 |
apw | cjwatson, was just using bzr merge-package and it is now telling me it is deprecated, does that imply use of bzr merge lp:debian/<package> is now the approved way | 14:03 |
xnox | apw: yes | 14:04 |
pitti | ev: https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/ubiquity/ubuntu-drivers-common/+merge/107744 is tried and tested now; thanks for your help! | 14:05 |
apw | xnox, thanks | 14:05 |
xnox | apw: also note about 'smart quilt handling' it will unapply patches before merging. | 14:05 |
* ev looks | 14:06 | |
apw | xnox, handy indeed | 14:06 |
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slangasek | hallyn: I don't think I would, no | 14:16 |
vsingh165 | need help building a test package for nautilus, please | 14:42 |
vsingh165 | I'm following these instructions: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/fixing-a-bug.html | 14:42 |
apw | slangasek, got a sec to look at a branch for me? i was just merging pciutils from debian and 1) i wanted to make sure what i did made sense, and 2) if it does i think that means there is no longer a delta (they did merge your changes by the look of things) and what does one do then: lp:~apw/ubuntu/quantal/pciutils | 14:43 |
xnox | apw: bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apw/ubuntu/quantal/pciutils/". | 14:47 |
apw | slangasek, xnox: damn lp:~apw/ubuntu/quantal/pciutils/debian-merge | 14:48 |
cjwatson | I can't speak for 1); if 2) is true, then 'syncpackage -f -d unstable pciutils' | 14:48 |
apw | stupid namespace restrictions which just hurt my head | 14:48 |
cjwatson | (i.e. we don't use bzr to do syncs) | 14:49 |
apw | cjwatson, yep ... makes sense, as steve did the last set of changes hopefully he can confirm we do indeed have no delta | 14:50 |
xnox | apw: no delta | 14:50 |
xnox | $ bzr diff --old lp:debian/pciutils --new lp:~apw/ubuntu/quantal/pciutils/debian-merge | diffstat | 14:50 |
xnox | Most recent Debian version: MISSING | 14:50 |
xnox | changelog | 6 ++++++ | 14:50 |
xnox | 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+) | 14:50 |
xnox | apw: why is there no maintainer field update? =) | 14:51 |
apw | xnox, _assuming_ i did the merge right | 14:51 |
Laney | there should be more diff than that in the changelog, if merged using bzr | 14:52 |
apw | Laney, the only thing in the changelog is the 6 lines saying i did the merge | 14:52 |
apw | Laney, and when i compared the two trees i found nothing to report as 'remaining changes' | 14:53 |
apw | xnox, i think the bzr vis output also says that i'd expect no delta, so i think i am right | 14:53 |
Laney | how did you do the merge? I just mean that if you used 'bzr merge' then it would have merged all of the old changelog entries in too. | 14:53 |
Laney | and if not, then a by hand merge might have gone wrong :P | 14:54 |
xnox | apw: when I do merge locally I have a few conflicts. | 14:54 |
apw | Laney, well i'd agree except that for the most recent upstream update, they merged our tree in | 14:54 |
xnox | how did you resolve pci.ids update-pciids.sh | 14:54 |
Laney | i see, if they took our changelog then this would happen too | 14:55 |
apw | xnox, pci.ids i took wholesale from debian as its actually an imported file, so merging it makes no sense and theirs was newer | 14:55 |
apw | xnox, update-pciids.sh i compared in its unpatched state and they do not differ | 14:56 |
apw | xnox, i think the delta there is actually false, its a fileid missmatch _i_think_ but ... i am here to make sure i did it right, and may well not have done | 14:56 |
barry | join #ubuntu-desktop | 14:58 |
xnox | apw: I wold sync. | 15:00 |
xnox | I would sync. | 15:00 |
apw | xnox, thanks, i think i agree with that too :) | 15:00 |
apw | xnox, i assume that appropritate even if you are going to get a delta back shortly | 15:07 |
cjwatson | apw: yes | 15:08 |
cjwatson | we like syncing where it's possible to do so without losing Ubuntu patches | 15:08 |
apw | cjwatson, and i assume once i run this syncpackage it will get seen by someone who can call me stupid | 15:10 |
Laney | if you can't upload then you want to use 'requestsync' instead | 15:10 |
Laney | syncpackage may direct you thus | 15:10 |
apw | ahh ... | 15:10 |
cjwatson | If you have upload rights, syncpackage is entirely self-service | 15:10 |
cjwatson | So in that case it won't get seen except after the fact | 15:11 |
cjwatson | I see you have upload rights to pciutils | 15:11 |
apw | cjwatson, yes indeed. right one last sanity check and i am hitting it | 15:14 |
pitti | ogasawara: hey Leann, how are you? | 15:23 |
ogasawara | pitti: Hi martin, just saw your email about the apport hook for the backport kernels | 15:24 |
larsduesing | could anybody competent have a look at my try of a merge from debian-sid to quantal of aiccu? | 15:24 |
larsduesing | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lars.duesing/ubuntu/quantal/aiccu/aiccu-sid-merge/revision/17 | 15:24 |
pitti | ogasawara: would it be ok/desirable to treat all the packages in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport as semi-official wrt. apport-bug? In that case I can just declare that PPA a "native origin", i. e. a package source that apport accepts | 15:24 |
ogasawara | pitti: yes I think we want to consider them semi-official and would want to allow bug reporting for all the packages appearing there | 15:25 |
pitti | ogasawara: i. e. I can do that, or just accept the kernel from that PPA, or accept a kernel package with any particular naming pattern | 15:25 |
ogasawara | bryce_: ^^ I'm assuming you want ubuntu-bug style bug reporting for the backported X packages in the PPA? | 15:25 |
bdmurray | pitti: could you look at bug 1004029? | 15:29 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1004029 in apport (Ubuntu Precise) "apport-collect does not work for bugs with only a linux task" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1004029 | 15:29 |
pitti | bdmurray: yes, that's on my list (nice description BTW!) | 15:29 |
bdmurray | pitti: thanks ;-) | 15:29 |
pitti | ogasawara, bryce_: I followed up to bug 1004101; please let me know there what you prefer | 15:33 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1004101 in apport (Ubuntu) "[RFE] Allow Bug Reporting When Running Backport Kernel" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1004101 | 15:33 |
ogasawara | pitti: ack, I'll add a comment for the kernel preference there | 15:33 |
vsingh165 | Hi, I'm trying to test a fix for nautilus and I can't build the test package. I'm following the wiki's instructions but with no luck: http://pastebin.com/sv3CKS35 | 15:49 |
asomething | vsingh165, the key line there is "dpkg-source: error: aborting due to unexpected upstream changes, see /tmp/nautilus_3.2.1-2ubuntu12.diff.Ns16hs" | 15:52 |
asomething | run dpkg-source --commit and it will format your changes for you in a nice patch under debian/patches | 15:52 |
vsingh165 | but will that submit the change to the package on the repos? | 15:53 |
vsingh165 | sorry, I'm new. | 15:53 |
asomething | nope. I can see why commit sounds scary though. | 15:53 |
vsingh165 | yeah...I just recently started contributing. I do know my programming, and love Linux, but am unfamiliar with all this package build stuff. Thanks for your help. | 15:54 |
vsingh165 | trying it now | 15:55 |
tsdgeos | anyone knows which piece of code reacts to cursor-theme changes in org.gnome.desktop.interface ? | 15:58 |
vsingh165 | asomething: it failed again http://pastebin.com/jHJgsDyN | 16:09 |
vsingh165 | asomething: apparently, it can't even read the file that dpkg-source --commit had me create | 16:10 |
asomething | vsingh165, hmmm... I'm not sure about that one. I'm actually in a meeting in another channel so I can't really look too closely. Maybe someone else can help you out. Sorry | 16:11 |
vsingh165 | asomething: ok. | 16:11 |
larsduesing | wahh | 16:13 |
larsduesing | can anybody help me: why is .pc in my patch?!? https://code.launchpad.net/~lars.duesing/ubuntu/quantal/aiccu/aiccu-sid-merge/+merge/107823 | 16:14 |
larsduesing | I did all like http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/udd-merging.html | 16:15 |
sil2100 | Hi! | 16:24 |
sil2100 | I would need some info regarding quantal and the packages that are to land in quantal PPA's | 16:24 |
sil2100 | Since during investigation of a build problem in unity on quantal, I noticed that the boots library that's the default (1.46) is a bit too old for the gcc toolchain we are using | 16:25 |
sil2100 | We would essentially need boost 1.48 on quantal | 16:25 |
sil2100 | The new g++ toolchain is more standard compliant it seems and breaks, for instance, shared_ptr | 16:25 |
cjwatson | quantal has boost 1.49 | 16:26 |
sil2100 | cjwatson: exellent - but the default is 1.46 still? | 16:26 |
cjwatson | not AFAICS | 16:26 |
cjwatson | it *has* boost 1.46, but libboost-dev points to 1.49 | 16:26 |
cjwatson | perhaps you're explicitly build-depending on libboost1.46-dev or some such | 16:27 |
sil2100 | Ah! | 16:27 |
sil2100 | Need to check unity packaging for that | 16:27 |
cjwatson | in which case, don't do that :) | 16:27 |
sil2100 | Since on my quantal chroot after doing build-dep for unity, I got boost 1.46 installed | 16:27 |
sil2100 | But this might indeed be the case | 16:27 |
cjwatson | Yeah, that's the fault of unity's Build-Depends | 16:28 |
cjwatson | ..., libboost1.46-dev, libboost-serialization1.46-dev, ... | 16:28 |
sil2100 | Ok, but now it all makes sense - I wonder actually why it's not just libboost-dev | 16:28 |
cjwatson | probably should just s/1\.46//g there | 16:28 |
cjwatson | maybe with >= 1.46 | 16:29 |
sil2100 | cjwatson: thanks! | 16:29 |
cjwatson | (or whatever) | 16:29 |
cjwatson | you're welcome | 16:29 |
ev | pitti, apw, seb128: hi :) | 16:29 |
seb128 | ev, hey ;-) | 16:29 |
pitti | so, bug 984944 was fixed in quantal only | 16:29 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 984944 in apport (Ubuntu) "Reject crashes that happen right after upgrade" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984944 | 16:29 |
seb128 | pitti, is whoopsie using the same "don't report" rules than apport? | 16:30 |
pitti | i. e. for precise you may still get crash reports that apply to a running binary which is already fixed | 16:30 |
pitti | seb128: yes | 16:30 |
pitti | well, it's supposed to, anyway | 16:31 |
ev | is the motivation for this just because we can't accurately tell the version, or is there concern about things like firefox | 16:31 |
ev | where upgrading underneath it breaks the universe | 16:31 |
pitti | see the bug | 16:31 |
ev | ah | 16:31 |
apw | pitti, presumably /proc/$$/exe points to the real binary if we replace it? | 16:31 |
ev | indeed, just did :) | 16:31 |
ev | right | 16:31 |
pitti | seems we got quite a lot of crashes where the user already upgraded to the new version | 16:31 |
pitti | but the previous binary was still running | 16:32 |
pitti | then it crashed | 16:32 |
ev | okay, I'm happy then | 16:32 |
pitti | and apport claimed it would still affect the new version | 16:32 |
pitti | and thus generating new duplciates for the newer version | 16:32 |
pitti | which doesn't make sense | 16:32 |
ev | right | 16:32 |
ev | thanks for fixing that | 16:32 |
pitti | right, so mark_report_upload() (which triggers whoopsie) is called after UnreportableReason check | 16:33 |
pitti | so whoopsie should not see those either | 16:33 |
apw | lrwxrwxrwx 1 apw apw 0 May 29 17:33 /proc/4175/exe -> /home/apw/tmp/test (deleted) | 16:34 |
pitti | apw: I compare that time stamp against the mtime of the actual binary, AFAIR | 16:34 |
apw | pitti, ok sounds good ... | 16:34 |
pitti | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apport-hackers/apport/trunk/revision/2296 | 16:35 |
pitti | exe_mtime = os.stat('/proc/%s/exe' % pid).st_mtime | 16:35 |
ev | pitti: check_unreportable happens after mark_report_upload as we still want to upload crashes that would normally be rejected on launchpad because of outdated packages | 16:35 |
pitti | process_start = os.lstat('/proc/%s/cmdline' % pid).st_mtime | 16:35 |
pitti | ev: actually, it's not even using UnreportableReason; it's checked right in the "apport" program, i. e. it won't even write a .crash file | 16:35 |
ev | ohhhh, right | 16:36 |
ev | okay nevermind then | 16:36 |
pitti | meh, this is my pet project, and I don't know the whole code by heart any more.. | 16:36 |
pitti | apport clearly grew way too big :) | 16:36 |
ev | or it grew contributors | 16:37 |
apw | ev, ok so we're back to that bug not being fixed :) | 16:37 |
ev | apw: and work not having to go into errors.ubuntu.com. Win. | 16:37 |
ev | well, for certain definitions of win | 16:37 |
ev | I need to stop rooting for the crashes | 16:37 |
pitti | so should we backport this to precise? | 16:37 |
ev | seems harmless enough | 16:38 |
seb128 | apw, this apport change is in q only | 16:38 |
seb128 | apw, not in precise | 16:38 |
apw | oh poop ... hmm | 16:38 |
pitti | I have two other bugs to work on which apply to precise, so I'll do an SRU by EOW anyway | 16:38 |
ev | pitti: rockstar, cheers | 16:39 |
pitti | added a precise task | 16:39 |
apw | pitti, i assume that ExecutableTimestamp: 1333654544 | 16:41 |
apw | pitti, that that is an accurate timestamp on the binary we are running right ? | 16:41 |
apw | ev, the installed binaries carry the timestamp in the .deb, so we ought to be able to work it out | 16:42 |
pitti | apw: yes, it's st_mtime of what /proc/pid/exe points to | 16:42 |
pitti | i. e. the value of ExecutablePath: in the report | 16:43 |
cjwatson | apw: if we still have the .debs around ... | 16:43 |
apw | cjwatson, yeah if ... | 16:43 |
pitti | good night everyone | 16:57 |
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henrix | RAOF: not sure if you're the right person to ask... we have a bunch of pkgs that landed on the wrong component in -proposed | 18:05 |
dupondje | SpamapS: updated the remmina bug | 18:09 |
SpamapS | dupondje: thanks! | 18:18 |
PaoloRotolo | Hi all! | 18:20 |
JonEdney | Howdy PaoloRotolo | 18:22 |
PaoloRotolo | JonEdney, hi | 18:23 |
bdmurray | dupondje: the freerdp bug would benefit from the same description modification | 18:25 |
dupondje | bdmurray: i'll do after food :) | 18:26 |
bdmurray | dupondje: great, thanks! | 18:30 |
seb128 | bdmurray, hey, not sure how you accepted the gnome-control-center SRU the other day but the bugs didn't tagged verification-needed | 19:01 |
bdmurray | seb128: which numbers? I'll take a look at the code and them | 19:02 |
seb128 | bdmurray, that SRU, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/1:3.4.2-0ubuntu0.2 | 19:04 |
seb128 | bug #1004384 | 19:04 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1004384 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Precise) "[soundnua]: segfaults when selecting bluetooth input device" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1004384 | 19:04 |
seb128 | bug #980317 | 19:04 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 980317 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Precise) "details -> overview disk size includes network mounts" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/980317 | 19:05 |
seb128 | bdmurray, thanks | 19:05 |
bdmurray | seb128: weird the same tool is adding the tags to bugs I've done today | 19:07 |
seb128 | bdmurray, not sure if you use the same tool as the other SRU team members are using or if you changed it but that's the first time I see SRU bugs non tagged in a long time | 19:08 |
bdmurray | seb128: the same tool and I'll look into it some more | 19:08 |
seb128 | ok, if that only happened once maybe don't bother much, I will ping you if I see that happening again | 19:09 |
bdmurray | seb128: thanks, and I'll verify they get tagged for a while | 19:11 |
seb128 | bdmurray, SpamapS, RAOF, slangasek: one of you might want to send an email to ubuntu-devel(-announce) about SRU rules being stricted, that would probably spare work compared to having to go through 90% of the uploaded packages to add comments saying that | 19:31 |
dupondje | bdmurray: description updated! | 19:52 |
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cyphermox | eep, sorry, I uploaded the wrong .changes for freecad; this was meant to be a sync | 21:15 |
cjwatson | henrix: if it's what I think you mean (linux*/oneiric), I'm dealing with it now | 22:00 |
henrix | cjwatson: yep, that's it! :) | 22:00 |
henrix | cjwatson: thanks | 22:00 |
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