/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/05/29/#ubuntu-installer.txt

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xnoxev: do you use glade or do you hand edit the .ui files?11:02
evxnox: glade, generalyl11:04
xnoxev: it coredumps on precise & quantal, I keep submitting whoopsie reports =)11:04
evheh, it's actually the overlay scrollbar11:04
xnoxoh, ok. there was a magic variable to disable that?11:05
evdo LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 glade11:05
xnox=)11:05
xnoxthanks11:05
evsure thing11:05
evnjpatel and I were just chatting about that11:05
xnoxand custom glade catalog is cool as well ;-)11:05
evoh yeah, there are environment variables for that11:06
xnoxless generic name would be better =)11:06
ev:)11:06
xnoxafter searching packages.ubuntu.com I was like, WHERE IS IT! then oh, it's right here next to the rest of them11:06
evthe catalog?11:08
xnoxgtkwidgets.xml11:09
evah yes11:09
evsorry about that11:09
xnoxnevermind. Is there a bug about overlay scrollbars?11:10
xnox=)11:10
evprobably11:13
evI'd file a report, but I'd rather just roll up a magazine and smack cimi with it repeatedly11:13
evah the joys of working in an office11:13
xnox=))))11:15
* xnox sends all the best regards to cimi11:16
xnoxev: tada: https://picasaweb.google.com/105922848292507689403/UbiquityMockup#slideshow/574792118291674373011:53
evxnox: yay12:46
evxnox: by the way, have you seen the install design specification? https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/edit?id=1bZ4yQIVgGaUGSYu3qiUHnQt3ieBZoqunP_DcleHCr3I#heading=h.78fde26c573512:46
xnoxev: yes I have.12:46
evwonderful, and you've met Matthew, right?12:46
evmpt that is12:46
xnoxev: I bet the design team is laughing at my mockup =)12:46
evhe's on holiday, back tomorrow :)12:47
xnoxev: yes, I have been in a lot of talks with mpt about this. He is back on Wednesday and he already saw debian-installer slideshows12:47
evexcellent12:47
evvery glad to hear that12:47
xnoxnow i'm doing 'quick' functional design idea for him to work on.12:47
evsure thing12:47
ogra_hmm, cant you use encryption without lvm ?12:47
ogra_(i would drop the "as well" from the text)12:48
xnoxogra_: you can, but it's pain. Because, as far as I know, you cannot partition the crypt1 device (please prove me wrong)12:48
ogra_dunno, i never use encryption :)12:48
xnoxand we want parity with alternative CD which currently does two recipes: LVM and LVM&CRYPT12:48
ogra_but i thought you can do it with dm12:48
xnoxI will try, but it's messed up to care about encryption without LVM imho.12:49
ogra_ah, k12:49
ogra_then the text also makes sense :)12:49
* xnox doesn't want to think about mbr & partition tables on a fake crypt device.....12:50
ogra_just encrypt them along ;)12:50
xnoxI will try it... in the vm12:51
xnoxand check if it boots12:51
* ogra_ doubts that ... i was actually joking :) 12:52
xnoxMore mockups of manual partitioner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity/AdvancedPartitioningSchemes#Ubiquity_Mockups13:40
xnoxogra_ ev ^^^13:40
evgood stuff13:42
ogra_looks great13:42
xnoxI'm not sure if the automatic partitionaire should actually show three partitions, upon selecting encryption.13:43
xnoxto allow tweaking the size of boot (200MB?) and/or; '/' and free space in the volume group...13:43
xnoxmaybe too advanced....13:43
* xnox loves the fact that I can tweak xml, scp it into vm, sudo cp into place, restart ubiquity and take screenshots.13:45
evyeah, lets try to avoid overcomplicating the automatic partitioner for the sake of appeasing some advanced users13:45
evyeah - do edit outside the VM13:45
evI can't count the number of times I lost work because I was hacking on top of the aufs tree13:46
xnox=)))13:46
eva while back I had code to nfs export the interesting directories13:47
evno idea what happened to that13:47
xnoxnfs ate the configs?13:47
xnox=)13:47
evheh13:47
evyay, JMX -> graphite is working. Proper monitoring for the Cassandra ring coming soon.13:47
evnot really installer chat, but I had to say it somewhere :)13:48
* ev creeps back into #webops13:48
xnoxIn the previous workplace, we had nfs server & dhcp server on separate boxes. At the powercut it was a race condition: if dhcp server & desktops come up before nfs server, they will have access, otherwise we had to restart the nfs server... because it doesn not support netmasks13:49
xnoxev: is that something you are working on for users in Narnia?13:49
evouch13:50
evheh, something like that13:50
evwe're suddenly seeing timeouts in some critical places13:50
evlesson learned - measure everything. You never know what you'll need and when, and storage is cheap.13:51
antarusI keep confusing this channel with #puppet14:06
antaruswhich is amazing really14:06
* xnox antarus, we presseed puppet with debconf. Clearly we are superior ;-)14:07
antaruswe do that too14:07
antarusits horrific14:07
antarus'first you run goobuntu-config foo=false, that sets a debconf value, then we export all goobuntu/$KEYS as facter facts, then we use those facts to configure the machine'14:08
antarusass backwards14:08
xnoxantarus: =))) yeap. I think I met you at the UDS, but I can't put a face to the irc nickname.14:10
antarusyou did not, because I wasn't there14:17
antarusthe rest of my team was14:17
antarus;)14:17
ogra_you probably underestimate xnox's imagination capabilities :)14:17
antaruscould be ;p14:19
CIA-62ubiquity: evand * r5493 ubiquity/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)14:25
CIA-62ubiquity: * scripts/simple-plugins, ubiquity/plugins/ubi-prepare.py: Move from Jockey14:25
CIA-62ubiquity:  to "ubuntu-drivers autoinstall". Add ubuntu-drivers-common Recommends: for14:25
CIA-62ubiquity:  this.14:25
CIA-62ubiquity: * scripts/plugininstall.py: Drop jockey --check-composite call. It is14:25
CIA-62ubiquity:  obsolete as the free drivers now provide 3D support. Automatic14:25
CIA-62ubiquity:  installation of graphics drivers is controlled and covered by14:25
xnoxev: I'm getting my housemate into Debian development. He is a python coder. And he 'wants to package something popular' I suggested usb-creator into debian. He is exiceted and coding on it now ;-)20:22
evcool!20:22
CIA-62ubiquity: superm1 * r5494 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-timezone.py):22:32
CIA-62ubiquity: Don't encode callbacks in UTF8 in the timezone plugin anymore. The strings22:32
CIA-62ubiquity: are already unicode.22:32
cjwatsonsuperm1: Please make sure that's python2-friendly22:48
cjwatsonsuperm1: Are you sure you don't need a sys.version guard there?22:48
superm1oh, it's certainly not right now.  yeah i'll add a sys.version guard in, i didn't realize you were keepign the codebase compatible with both22:49
cjwatsonFor the time being, until I'm certain we won't need to pull the abort switch and drop back to Python 222:49
cjwatsonIt'll be easy enough to search-and-destroy all the compatibility code when we're ready22:49
superm1sure, i'll add it shortly22:52
CIA-62ubiquity: superm1 * r5495 ubiquity/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-timezone.py: make that last commit compatible with python2 and 323:12

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