=== raju is now known as ubufox === SaMe is now known as ubuntu-co-bot === vibhav is now known as Guest59295 === meetingology` is now known as meetingology === Guest59295 is now known as vibhav === JanC_ is now known as JanC === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum === Guest55695 is now known as Pici === dgjones is now known as DJones [16:00] o/ [16:00] hello [16:00] o/ [16:01] heylo [16:01] o/ [16:01] \o [16:01] hi [16:01] #startmeeting [16:01] Meeting started Tue May 29 16:01:44 2012 UTC. The chair is roaksoax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:01] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:01] hey-ol-a [16:02] so let's get started [16:02] [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:02] o/ [16:02] zul talk to arosales and jamespage offline about SRU tracker [16:02] in progress [16:02] zul: any updates about the SRU tracker? [16:02] roaksoax: I am syncing up with zul and jamespage [16:02] deciding on which tool to use [16:03] zul or possibly Ursinha's [16:03] so in progress [16:03] arosales: awesome! [16:03] o/ [16:03] we're talking about it tomorrow :) [16:03] [ACTION] zul to sync up with arosales and jamespage. [16:03] ACTION: zul to sync up with arosales and jamespage. [16:03] zul: zul to also pull Ursinha into SRU tracker talks --> I'm guessing that's stillk in progress too [16:03] roaksoax: correct :-) [16:04] yay [16:04] alright, let'/s move on [16:04] email arosales/Daviey if interested in ubuntu-mir membership [16:04] who's displayed their interes in becoming part of the ubuntu-mir team? [16:04] or should the question be, have all the interested people emailed arosales and/or Daviey ? [16:04] I am also sync'ing up with Ursinha on blueprint management (ie tracking blueprint changes) [16:05] ruh roh [16:05] I didn't receive any mails on interest for ubuntu-mir team [16:05] me neider [16:05] alright, so people I believe you have a chance to offer yourselves and become part of the ubuntu-mir team [16:06] lets defer it again. [16:06] moving on [16:06] roaksoax: can we give it one additional week for follow up and then close on it next week? [16:06] arosales: sure! [16:06] thanks [16:06] [ACTION] email arosales/Daviey if interested in ubuntu-mir membership [16:06] ACTION: email arosales/Daviey if interested in ubuntu-mir membership [16:06] alright, moving on [16:07] [TOPIC] Quantal Development === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Quantal Development [16:07] Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html [16:07] bug #888123 [16:07] Launchpad bug 888123 in openjdk-7 (Ubuntu Quantal) "erlang version 14.b.2-dfsg-3ubuntu2 failed to build with openjdk-7" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/888123 [16:07] jamespage: any updates? [16:08] nope [16:08] work on the underlying issue is on hold ATM [16:08] ok [16:08] bug 974584 [16:08] not mega urgent at this point in time unless someone wants to merge erlang [16:08] Launchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Quantal) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974584 [16:08] working with debian maintainer [16:09] awesome! [16:09] bug #920197 [16:09] Launchpad bug 920197 in python-webob (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] webob last stable version 1.1.1 response header bug" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920197 [16:09] zul: any updates? [16:09] roaksoax: pending SRU team [16:10] awesome! [16:10] bug #1001846 [16:10] Launchpad bug 1001846 in cobbler (Ubuntu) "cobbler fails to install with error code 1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1001846 [16:10] we were waiting for more input, and we got it. It should be taken care of this week [16:10] \o/ [16:11] bug #880339 [16:11] Launchpad bug 880339 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Precise) "AppArmor profile needs update" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/880339 [16:11] still incomplete [16:11] comments point to a might be related bug [16:12] bug #993291 [16:12] Launchpad bug 993291 in nis (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] package nis 3.17-32ubuntu1.2 failed to install/upgrade: invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/nis not found." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/993291 [16:13] jamespage: any updates ^^? [16:13] yeah - I need to take a look at that still [16:13] so no [16:13] alright! [16:13] so let's move on to blueprints [16:13] Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html [16:13] how are folks doing with getting work items documented? [16:14] * rbasak hasn't started yet :-/ [16:14] It's on my todo list [16:14] * m_3 too [16:14] The release team would like to start setting topics and tread lines by tomorrow [16:14] we also need to update the above link as they quantal BP's are not yet listed [16:14] So.. Started going through the ones with myself as approver... and they are taking good shape. [16:14] Still needs a little more detail on some. [16:14] that url above should probably have been http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html [16:14] Daviey: note the user-ns and device-ns ones are not yet approved [16:14] ah daa [16:14] (I marked them 'Review') [16:15] * roaksoax dumbd [16:15] The list I am looking at for q for server [16:15] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+specs?role=drafter [16:15] at least for blueprints we need to get work items on, prioritize, and approve for work this cycle [16:15] The links i supplied in last weeks meeting are probably of use. [16:16] ok, so all of us should finish writing our BP's, make sure the WI are docmented so that they can get approved and we can start working on them [16:16] http://ubuntuserver.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/server-team-20120522-meeting-minutes/ [16:16] Read Quantal Development [16:16] Specs currently under consideration are at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+specs?role=drafter. If a spec is missing, let Daviey know. [16:17] Blueprints which $user is responsible for driving to Approved state can be found at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~$user/+specs?searchtext=servercloud-q&role=assignee. Please set those which require review to Review state. [16:17] So is EOD wednesday too soon to have the blueprints ready for approval? [16:17] Yes from my part [16:17] s/part/side [16:17] yes [16:17] Hmm [16:17] Daviey: can we please get the typo fixed on ubuntuserver.wordpress.com? It's embarrassing. I don't want to be associated with that site! [16:18] rbasak: Do you want to drive it's migration to ubuntuserver.org, canonical hosted? [16:18] [ACTION] ^ [16:18] ACTION: ^ [16:18] [ACTION] rbasak to drive migration to ubuntuserver.org [16:18] ACTION: rbasak to drive migration to ubuntuserver.org [16:18] thank you rbasak :) [16:18] thanks rbasak [16:19] So.. Lets re-cap of the process... [16:19] Thursday an better for folks completing blueprint work item documentation? [16:19] When you think your spec is ready for review, please mark them 'Review' [16:20] arosales & myself with significant help from jamespage and smoser will either give feedback, or Approve [16:20] So.. We can start that ASAP.. so please get your blueprints into a state where you can mark them Review ASAP, and we can start getting them rolled out [16:20] Sound good? [16:21] [ACTION] To finish BP documentation and mark them Review [16:21] ACTION: To finish BP documentation and mark them Review [16:22] (ASAP :) [16:22] so I guess the silence means all of us agree [16:22] [ACTION] To finish BP documentation and mark them Review ASAP! [16:22] ACTION: To finish BP documentation and mark them Review ASAP! [16:22] suuuure :) [16:22] +1 [16:22] ok, let's move on [16:22] it would be nice for trend line setting, and tracking if we could have the bulk of work item documentation this competed by this week :-) [16:22] indeed! [16:23] alright, so we also have merges to take care of [16:23] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~davewalker/delta.html [16:23] LINK: http://people.canonical.com/~davewalker/delta.html [16:23] please take care of your merges, so go wild and have fun [16:24] anyone else has anything to discuss? [16:24] Please feel free to open sync/merge bugs to track assignment. :) [16:24] ^ optional [16:24] ok, so there doesn't seem to be anything else. Let's move on then [16:24] [TOPIC] Ubuntu Server Team Events === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:25] any event where we will be particupating that's coming soon? [16:26] I guess there isn't [16:26] moving on [16:26] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [16:26] hggdh: o/ [16:27] uhmm it seems that hggdh is not around, so let;s come back t him later [16:27] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [16:27] smb: o/ [16:27] yessir! :) [16:27] Beside of other pieces here and there, a quick test on the libvirt merge and most time spent on trying to reproduce bug 999755 without having a simple test case. This was unsuccessful but since someone posted exactly what was their reproducer I could confirm this to be no problem restricted to VMs. So now I can try out some variations locally. [16:27] Launchpad bug 999755 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel crash in rb_next doing ohai loops" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/999755 [16:27] .. [16:28] awesome [16:28] smb: anything else you'd like us to be aware of? [16:29] smb: Anything on the xen front? [16:29] smoser, and utlemming are already away of -virtual going away [16:29] going away? [16:29] away -> aware [16:29] Where is this documented ? [16:29] It was mentioned at UDS IIRC [16:30] Should be somewhere in the uds flavours track [16:30] we were aware. [16:30] That should probably be documented somewhere more expressive [16:30] but that didn't stop it from breaking things./ [16:30] smb spoke to me about it. [16:30] Daviey, where would such a place be? [16:31] smoser: so it's your fault i didn't know? noted. :) [16:31] On our side, it is being tracked as Bug #1005551 [16:31] Launchpad bug 1005551 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "Quantal does not boot on EC2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005551 [16:31] smb: probably -server ML [16:31] well, probably -devel actually. [16:31] its not just -server [16:31] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-q-kernel-version-and-flavors [16:31] OK, I can check and send out a specific "warning" about that [16:32] I'm working on cleaning up the fallout for the build process, but it will require packaing changes and build process changes. [16:32] smb: thanks! [16:32] utlemming: if it's significant, better track it on a blueprint :) [16:33] Daviey: ack [16:33] alright, should that be all, let's move on [16:34] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) [16:34] rbasak: o/ [16:34] Nothing to report, although you may be interested in some ARM server news: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/29/dell_copper_arm_server/ . Any questions for me? [16:35] i guess there's not [16:35] copper is shiney [16:36] anotherone hgere : http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dell-unveils-programs-to-enable-the-arm-based-server-ecosystem-and-accelerate-development-and-testing-of-arm-based-applications-and-solutions-2012-05-29 [16:36] ok, so moving on [16:36] [TOPIC] Open Discussion === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion [16:36] anyone has anything for us? [16:37] i've got one [16:37] I just want to publicly congratulate smoser :) [16:37] rbasak, and i would like to solicit bids for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/972077 [16:37] Launchpad bug 972077 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt repository disk format has race conditions" [Medium,Confirmed] [16:37] Yeah... So. [16:37] by solicit bids, i mean "any one interested in doing this ?" [16:37] lol [16:37] Smoser has been declared the Infrastructure team Tech Lead. Three cheers for smoser [16:37] o/ [16:37] yay! [16:37] \o/ [16:37] \o/ [16:37] \o/ [16:37] :D [16:37] congrats smoer [16:37] rbasak, is interested, but is time limited, and if someone else wants to take a whack at it, we have an idea of a proof of concept that we'd like to implement [16:38] \o/ [16:38] or even smoser [16:38] Now.. Any hard questions related to Infra, please feel free to tax smoser. [16:38] congrats smoser [16:38] congrats smoser [16:38] smoser: you're da man [16:38] all praise to smoser! [16:38] *\o/* [16:38] congrats Mr. Moser [16:38] (yes, thanks for the congrats, NOW BACK TO THE MEETING!) [16:38] :) [16:38] lol [16:38] hody [16:38] howdy even [16:38] smoser: Open Discussion :) [16:38] SpamapS: just in time. [16:38] congrats captain oh my captain...my sparkle in my eye [16:38] congrats smoser! [16:38] so, if anyone would want to take a look at implementing the apt client side of our proposed fix, please feel free to ping me. [16:39] o/ [16:39] [ACTION]: Anyone interested in taking care of bug #972077 to ping smoser [16:39] ACTION: : Anyone interested in taking care of bug #972077 to ping smoser [16:39] Launchpad bug 972077 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt repository disk format has race conditions" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/972077 [16:39] Bug Triage Process - I sent an email to ubuntu-server last week [16:39] alright, no other subject to bring to the table? [16:39] please could people have a read and provide feedback - thanks [16:40] I think I need to follow the process that jamespage has documented and then make a note of any bugs I get stuck on and why [16:40] rbasak, that is a fine way to debug it! [16:40] jamespage: deubg? You want me to file bugs on the triage process? And how should we triage those bugs? [16:41] :-) [16:41] lol [16:41] lol [16:41] alright, if there's nothing more [16:41] I guess we can end this [16:41] [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Announce next meeting date and time [16:41] same time/place [16:41] (June 5th) [16:42] thank you all [16:42] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:42] Meeting ended Tue May 29 16:42:05 2012 UTC. [16:42] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-05-29-16.01.moin.txt [16:42] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-05-29-16.01.html [16:42] roaksoax: thanks for chair'ing [16:42] my pleasure [16:43] ttfn [16:59] o/ [16:59] #startmeeting [16:59] ## [16:59] Meeting started Tue May 29 16:59:44 2012 UTC. The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:59] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:59] ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting. [16:59] ## [16:59] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting [16:59] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Precise [16:59] # Meeting Etiquette [16:59] # [16:59] # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input. [16:59] # 'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized) [16:59] Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] * smb rushes in [17:00] [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Status (ppisati) [17:00] Q/omap4: Ubuntu-3.4.0-201.3 is out, with hdmi and jack audio support. Some of the new features (like video and audio offloading to gpu/dsp) will have to wait until 3.5rcX hits master, since we need CMA and dma-map support (already present in linus vanilla). [17:00] only fools rush in [17:00] .. [17:00] [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) [17:00] Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link: [17:00] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt [17:01] .. [17:01] [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) [17:02] We can come back to this topic. [17:02] [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: CVE's (sconklin) [17:02] == 2012-05-29 (weekly) == [17:02] Currently we have 88 CVEs on our radar, with 2 new CVEs added this week. [17:02] See the CVE matrix for the current list: [17:02] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html [17:02] Overall the backlog has increased slightly slightly this week: [17:02] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt [17:02] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt [17:02] .. [17:03] [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix) [17:03] Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (May 29): [17:03] [17:03] * Hardy - 2.6.24-31.101 - No change this cycle [17:03] * Lucid - 2.6.32-41.90 - Testing; Single CVE [17:03] * Natty - 2.6.38-15.60 - Testing: 7 CVEs [17:03] * Oneiric - 3.0.0-21.35 - Verification; 2 stable upstream releases (approx. 111 commits) [17:03] * Precise - 3.2.0-25.39 - Verification; 2 stable upstream releases (approx. 271 commits) [17:03] [17:03] Current opened tracking bugs details: [17:03] * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html [17:03] [17:03] For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information: [17:03] * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html [17:03] [17:03] Future stable cadence cycles: [17:03] * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock [17:03] [17:03] .. [17:03] [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) [17:04] o/ [17:04] jsalisbury: o/ [17:04] kamal, go ahead [17:04] An old colleague of mine, Dave Taht, is a member of the http://www.bufferbloat.net/ group. Some of their work will be landing in the 3.5 kernel (codel and fq_codel - a new active TCP queue management algo). [17:04] Dave would like to be in contact with someone on the Ubuntu kernel team to talk about configuration and usage issues for that stuff. Shall I direct him to anyone in particular? Is there a networking point-person? [17:04] .. [17:05] kamal, i'd say just get him to send email to kernel-team@ [17:05] kamal, he can start with me or apw [17:05] kernel-team@ works as well [17:05] ok, two names + the kernel-team@ list :-) that'll do :-) thanks. [17:05] .. [17:05] ogasawara, shall I move back to your topics? [17:05] jsalisbury: yes please [17:06] [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) [17:06] * ogasawara had a bit of a crisis [17:06] [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team-quantal-alpha-1.html [17:06] || apw || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 4 work item || [17:06] || || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review || 3 work items || [17:06] || || hardware-q-kernel-versions-and-flavors || 1 work item || [17:06] || smb || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item || [17:06] || || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review || 1 work item || [17:06] || ppisati || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item || [17:06] || jk- || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 2 work items || [17:06] || ogasawara || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item || [17:06] || || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review || 1 work item || [17:06] || cking || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review || 3 work items || [17:06] || jjohansen || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 2 work item || [17:06] || kernel-team || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 10 work items || [17:06] || || hardware-q-kernel-versions-and-flavors || 2 work items || [17:06] If your name is in the above table, please review your Alpha-1 work [17:06] items. If anyone has a spare cycle, feel free to take one of the work [17:06] items assigned to the team. [17:06] .. [17:06] Last week we uploaded the 3.4.0-3.8 Quantal kernel. This included an [17:06] updated AppArmor patch set and misc config updates and bug fixes. [17:06] Please note that Alpha-1 is next Thurs June 7. I'll intend to upload a [17:06] final Alpha-1 kernel early next week, ie Monday. [17:06] We've also began providing the 12.10 kernel for 12.04. We welcome any [17:06] early adopters to plaes install, test, and let us know your feedback. [17:06] It is available from the following PPA: [17:06] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport [17:06] Important upcoming dates: [17:07] * Thurs Jun 7 - Alpha 1 (~2 weeks) [17:07] .. [17:07] s/~2 weeks/~1 week/ [17:07] Anything from anyone else? [17:07] Thanks everyone [17:07] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [17:07] Meeting ended Tue May 29 17:07:51 2012 UTC. [17:07] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-05-29-16.59.moin.txt [17:07] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-05-29-16.59.html [17:07] thanks jsalisbury [17:08] thanks jsalisbury [17:08] jsalisbury, thanks === s1aden is now known as sladen === DWonderly is now known as Darkwing === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98