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ubuntuuk-planet[Stuart Langridge] Things that compile to JavaScript - http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2012/05/29/things-that-compile-to-javascript00:02
shaunodirecthex: upboated all the things!  except cats.  I don't get it.00:08
AlanBelldirecthex: can you ask Daniel Sor to put a proper license on that bit?07:02
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directhexAlanBell: i've filed a bug upstream about the issue, and they've implied that they're going to try and do that07:22
directhexthey're taking the issue seriously, which is nice07:24
diploMorning all07:34
MooDoohello all07:44
czajkowskialoha08:09
christelheya petal :)08:09
czajkowskichristel: hows you darling?08:15
christelnot too shabby08:15
* mattt is a grump today08:20
MooDoohi christel czajkowski mattt08:23
christelHELLO LOVELY08:26
* christel squidges MooDoo and matti 08:26
christelmattt*08:26
MooDooawwww :) christel <3 x08:27
christel<308:27
AlanBellmorning christel08:30
AlanBelland others08:30
diploInstall Vbox or KVM+VirtManager peeps?08:31
diploThoughts?08:31
AlanBelldiplo: for local stuff?08:31
diployeah08:31
christelhello AlanBell :)08:31
AlanBellif you want 3d accellerated guests then virtualbox08:31
diploCentOS 4.8 dev work :(08:31
diplonah no 3d08:31
AlanBellif you want to have a setup that is like you might have running on a server then kvm08:31
diplojust cli, creating new rpm packages for our customers on 4.8 :/08:31
diploTa08:31
AlanBellvirtualbox is easier and gui stuff works better08:32
AlanBellbut kvm is possibly a more useful thing to learn about08:32
diploah I remember I had a pain in my **** with doing the network side of kvm last time08:32
diploOh defo08:32
AlanBellyeah, it is still a pita08:32
diplo:(08:33
matttmorning moodoo, christel :)08:33
AlanBellnat is easy, but bridging can be challenging08:33
diploI'll install both and play I guess, get's me used to them again08:33
AlanBellchristel: you will have to pop in to the office for a cuppa08:33
christelyes! i must08:33
christel:D08:33
directhexbridging is easy08:39
directhexas long as you have a bridge device :D08:39
diplohmm failed to install anyway.. so virt box for now and find out why kvm packages failed later08:41
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popeyAlanBell: do you use kvm on your hetzner box?08:45
AlanBellyes08:46
diplosorry desktop locked up there, do you use Virtmanager to connect remotely, or use cli ?08:47
popeyhow do you allocate disk space to the VMs?08:47
diplolol so report a problem (apport) crashed whilst reporting a problem08:48
diplo:P08:48
AlanBellpopey: just with virt-manager, most of our VMs don't need much space08:56
popeyAlanBell: i mean, do you use lvm or files for the filesystem of the VMs08:56
AlanBelland I now let it do the sparce file thing08:56
JamesTaitGood morning, all! :)08:57
dogmatic69o/08:58
AlanBellpopey: they are .img files in /var/lib/libvirt/images and I just stick ext4 on them08:58
Azelphurmy room has officially turned into Logitech all the things \o/08:58
AzelphurG19, G13, G930, M570 xD08:59
popeyso they're ext4 on top of ext4?08:59
AlanBellno lvm08:59
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AlanBellyes, etx4 filesystem in a file that is in an ext4 filesystem08:59
AlanBellwhich is journaling in journaling I suppose09:00
AlanBellbut seeing as either the guest or the host could have an unplanned shutdown it is probably nice to have journaling on both09:01
brobostigongood morning everyone.09:03
popeyon lug.org.uk we use LVM on the host and xen presents those to the guests09:04
popeywe're moving lug.org.uk to bitfolk - well, it's moved already09:04
AlanBellthat sounds quite efficent09:04
popeyhas worked for us for $years09:05
Azelphurhmm that's odd, my new mouse has buttons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 and 9. I wonder where 6 and 7 went o.O09:06
diploSomeone stole them!09:08
diploTheif!09:08
AzelphurButton ninjas! :O09:08
AzelphurI'm wondering if there's 2 secret buttons that I am missing or something haha09:09
diplohttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Get_All_Mouse_Buttons_Working_(%E6%AD%A3%E9%AB%94%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87)09:10
diploMaybe some pointers there ?09:10
Azelphurmaybe, I'm not sure if I actually have more than 7 buttons though, from what I can see I have 4 buttons and a scroll wheel09:11
AlanBellscroll wheel is 4 and 509:16
AlanBelldoes it have tilt too?09:16
Azelphurnah, no tilt09:17
Azelphurmaybe 6 and 7 are reserved for tilt if you have it09:17
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davmor2morning all10:02
davmor2czajkowski: prod10:02
czajkowskidavmor2: ello10:09
davmor2morning czajkowski10:10
SuperMattfuck to the yeah! I've tweak radiance to get a theme that matches spotify :D10:10
DJonesSuperMatt: Can you tone the language down a bit, remember this is meant to be a family friendly channel10:12
SuperMattsorry10:13
SuperMattI thought I was in another channel10:13
SuperMattmy bad10:13
SuperMattI keep doing this10:13
DJonesNo worries :) Accidents happen10:13
gordonjcpI hate the phrase "family friendly"10:13
gordonjcpwhat a meaningless string of tosh10:13
czajkowski!ask AlanBell10:19
AlanBell!tell czajkowski10:20
AlanBell:)10:20
czajkowskiheh10:20
SuperMatthttp://www.supermatt.net/radiance-spotify/10:23
oimoncan anyone recommend a good pico projector?10:24
AzelphurI'm having a bit of a wine/nvidia related issue it seems that I'm missing my 32bit compatibility libs for the nvidia drivers so wine reverts to a really old OpenGL version, any ideas on how I'd fix that?10:24
oimonor any cheap portable projector really10:26
gordAzelphur, ia32-libs ?10:27
Azelphurgord: already installed10:27
AzelphurIn fedora, the package I need is xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs I think10:53
Azelphurbut it looks like ubuntu doesn't have a similar package :(10:53
popeythats nvidia-current10:56
Azelphurpopey: figured it might be bundled in there, I need the 32bit libraries rather than the whole driver though10:56
popeynvidia-current:i38610:56
popeyprobably wont do what you expect/want10:57
Azelphurthat's obviously gonna explode things as it'll stall the kernel modules and stuff10:57
Azelphurhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/852873 looks like this bug10:58
lubotu3Ubuntu bug 851947 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu Oneiric) "duplicate for #852873 /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 prevents Doom 3 from starting" [High,Fix released]10:58
Azelphurthe bot lies, it says unassigned confirmed on launchpad o.O10:58
popeyno11:02
popeyits a dupe, the status is for bug #85287311:02
lubotu3Launchpad bug 851947 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu Oneiric) "duplicate for #852873 /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 prevents Doom 3 from starting" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85194711:02
popeysorry I mean the other way round11:03
popeyits the status for the main bug not the dupe11:03
Azelphurah11:04
Azelphurhttp://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=15537 oO, my exact issue :D11:10
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bubu\ahi guys, i've been given a .p12 cert by a windows admin which is needed to connect https between their server and our ubuntu server. how can i convert to a .pem or .crt file so I have my privatekey.key and my crt?11:55
penguin42bubu\a: http://www.sslshopper.com/article-most-common-openssl-commands.html11:56
penguin42bubu\a: It's got a section called 'Converting Using OpenSSL'11:56
bubu\acool thx12:20
bubu\ahave found a few12:20
bubu\aconverted several times now12:20
bubu\abut when i curl -i https://hisserver:443 I get SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed12:21
bubu\aand am not sure why ... have installed other .crt/.key certs ok before12:21
bubu\aI get the same error if i curl -i https://127.0.0.1:4412:22
bubu\a443*12:22
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Knightwisehey guys12:34
AzelphurSantander just sent me an email to explain what a cookie is12:34
Azelphur"‘Cookies’ enable users to navigate around websites"12:34
* Azelphur stabs12:34
popeyheh, yeah12:34
popeyand note the domain its sent from12:34
popey"yoursantander"12:34
Azelphurhaha12:34
Azelphur"This email is intended for Mr Day, 2AR" ... what?12:35
Knightwisei was looking to install vuze on my ppc mac , and it askes me to install jde (or jre)12:35
popeytheir attempt to prove it's from them12:35
Azelphurhaha12:35
Knightwiseis that an apt-get i should do ?12:36
popeyKnightwise: http://kapsulax.blogspot.co.uk/2008/08/java-plugin-under-linux-ppc.html12:37
Knightwisethanx popey  !12:39
Knightwisegonna give it a try12:39
Knightwisegot Lubuntu working on my 17 inch G4 imac12:39
Knightwisebeautiful piece of tech12:39
KnightwiseIf i can get Java working on it it will make a very pretty server :)12:39
popeysweet12:40
Knightwiseyep :) will be doing a podcast on it this week12:41
Knightwiseand did a videoblog on it yesterday12:41
KnightwiseJury is still out if its gonna be lxde or xfce in the long run12:42
penguin42I don't suppose anyone has an android dev/ndk setup that they fancy checking to see whether build instructions I've written work for anyone else?12:46
* Azelphur is eating fish fingers and custard :D14:24
davmor2Azelphur: you are not doctor who :P14:25
AzelphurI am now!14:25
Azelphurit's actually quite nice14:26
DJonesSomebody was talking about eating pancakes with gravy the other day, that sounded vile until they said its the same as yorkshire pudding & grivy14:27
Azelphur10 fish fingers, £1. Tin of Devon custard, 89p. Eating like a time lord: priceless :D14:30
davmor2DJones: nope it still sounds vile14:30
davmor2Azelphur: I was aiming more for eating like a time lord: Prat! ;)14:31
Azelphurhehe14:32
AzelphurAnyone here have a 4 directional scroll wheel and mind running xev and telling me what button numbers the left and right are?14:49
HornetAzelphur: that would be unlimited rice pudding15:04
AzelphurxD15:04
vedreamerI'm trying to build a kernel on a vm with a small disk. I think I just need the virtual .deb files. Anyone know how I can do this15:12
vedreamerI used fakeroot debian/rules binary15:12
AlanBellchoo choo15:56
* brobostigon joins in making choochoo sounds.15:57
czajkowskichoo choo July 14th :)15:59
brobostigonrat16:00
penguin42?16:00
AlanBellyes, that one does make all the right noises16:03
gordreally am disappointed by the lack of chooing that modern trains do16:04
matttyes, what we need are trains w/ more choo16:07
* mattt stares at gord16:07
gordthey also need to go chugga-cha-chug. chugga-cha-chug more16:10
gordso i can nap16:10
gordand occasionally just as i am going to sleep, one should be sent out to make pleasing noises in the distance16:10
czajkowskigord: you should have that as a ring tone !16:13
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AlanBellafternoon naps are nice16:44
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matttAlanBell: on holiday this week?17:01
bigcalm_laptopAfternoon peeps :)17:07
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DJonesWhats happening at RIM? Just seen a stock market alert saying their shares have been suspended20:18
dogmatic69I have heard shares get suspended if there is a big jump in a few minutes, quite normal apparently20:19
DJonesJust looking at news, sounds like they're reporting very poor results20:20
dogmatic69stocks up .7%20:20
dogmatic69google says they lost a senior exec20:20
dogmatic69*another20:21
dogmatic69chief legal officer is retiring20:21
* DJones makes a note not to buy a RIM phone20:21
ali1234RIM is toast20:21
ali1234because they failed to understand who was buying their phones20:21
dogmatic69also, they are cutting 1000's of jobs20:21
dogmatic6914 yo girls...20:22
ali1234exactly20:22
DJonesali1234: toast is good, I get the feeling that rim isn't doing good :)20:22
dogmatic69but its a 'business' phone20:22
ali1234exactly!20:22
dogmatic69DJones: good time to short some shares...20:22
MartijnVdSI don't want to do business with 14 yr old girls20:22
ali1234their developer offering is entirely geared towards "enterprise" developers20:22
dogmatic69ali1234: well, marketing found that is what 14 yo girls need20:23
MartijnVdSali1234: and it's a bad sdk too..20:23
dogmatic69help with cookie sales and all...20:23
DJonesdirector at work has just replaced his blackberry with an iphone because the blackberry was rubbish at internet based things20:23
ali1234it's not particularly bad, it just isnt designed for making angry birds and social apps20:23
dogmatic69BBM!20:23
ali1234now nokia has the exact opposite problem: their main market (symbian) is business users, but their ecosystem is designed around ... angry birds and social apps that business users do not want20:24
MartijnVdSdogmatic69: it doesn't even use the internet.. it uses RIMs butchered version20:24
MartijnVdSso you always need a RIM server/subscription20:24
dogmatic69ye20:24
ali1234BBM was extremely popular with teenagers because it is much much cheaper than SMS20:24
MartijnVdSwhich is why I use gtalk20:25
ali1234BBM is cheaper than "unlimited" internet20:27
MartijnVdSnot anymore here20:28
MartijnVdSthey're making you buy both here20:28
ali1234true, that's another reason why RIM is toast20:28
ali1234i see the facebook phone announcement failed to lift the share price20:29
MartijnVdSthere's an announcement?20:29
ali1234yeah. bbc don't print rumours unless they're official off the record rumours20:30
DJonesThis would explain the share notice http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/05/29/205256/rim-may-need-to-write-off-1-billion-in-inventory?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter20:43
shaunoRIM are rather scary.  I can't remember the last time I heard any good news from them at all20:46
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dogmatic69anyone familiar with doxygen?22:13
dogmatic69I want to use terminal version only, eg doxygen <command> but the installer wants to dl 600mb. This is 11.10 server and guessing its that big due to the doxygen gui parts22:14
dogmatic69well, 420mb, 680 installed http://bin.cakephp.org/view/77350332522:15
gorddogmatic69, nah, doxygen is just huuuuge22:39
dogmatic69gord: cool, I will just do it and hope for the best... :D22:43
gordthe gui tool is basically just a quick and dirty application that just runs the command line anyway :)22:45

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