ubuntuuk-planet | [Stuart Langridge] Things that compile to JavaScript - http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2012/05/29/things-that-compile-to-javascript | 00:02 |
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shauno | directhex: upboated all the things! except cats. I don't get it. | 00:08 |
AlanBell | directhex: can you ask Daniel Sor to put a proper license on that bit? | 07:02 |
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directhex | AlanBell: i've filed a bug upstream about the issue, and they've implied that they're going to try and do that | 07:22 |
directhex | they're taking the issue seriously, which is nice | 07:24 |
diplo | Morning all | 07:34 |
MooDoo | hello all | 07:44 |
czajkowski | aloha | 08:09 |
christel | heya petal :) | 08:09 |
czajkowski | christel: hows you darling? | 08:15 |
christel | not too shabby | 08:15 |
* mattt is a grump today | 08:20 | |
MooDoo | hi christel czajkowski mattt | 08:23 |
christel | HELLO LOVELY | 08:26 |
* christel squidges MooDoo and matti | 08:26 | |
christel | mattt* | 08:26 |
MooDoo | awwww :) christel <3 x | 08:27 |
christel | <3 | 08:27 |
AlanBell | morning christel | 08:30 |
AlanBell | and others | 08:30 |
diplo | Install Vbox or KVM+VirtManager peeps? | 08:31 |
diplo | Thoughts? | 08:31 |
AlanBell | diplo: for local stuff? | 08:31 |
diplo | yeah | 08:31 |
christel | hello AlanBell :) | 08:31 |
AlanBell | if you want 3d accellerated guests then virtualbox | 08:31 |
diplo | CentOS 4.8 dev work :( | 08:31 |
diplo | nah no 3d | 08:31 |
AlanBell | if you want to have a setup that is like you might have running on a server then kvm | 08:31 |
diplo | just cli, creating new rpm packages for our customers on 4.8 :/ | 08:31 |
diplo | Ta | 08:31 |
AlanBell | virtualbox is easier and gui stuff works better | 08:32 |
AlanBell | but kvm is possibly a more useful thing to learn about | 08:32 |
diplo | ah I remember I had a pain in my **** with doing the network side of kvm last time | 08:32 |
diplo | Oh defo | 08:32 |
AlanBell | yeah, it is still a pita | 08:32 |
diplo | :( | 08:33 |
mattt | morning moodoo, christel :) | 08:33 |
AlanBell | nat is easy, but bridging can be challenging | 08:33 |
diplo | I'll install both and play I guess, get's me used to them again | 08:33 |
AlanBell | christel: you will have to pop in to the office for a cuppa | 08:33 |
christel | yes! i must | 08:33 |
christel | :D | 08:33 |
directhex | bridging is easy | 08:39 |
directhex | as long as you have a bridge device :D | 08:39 |
diplo | hmm failed to install anyway.. so virt box for now and find out why kvm packages failed later | 08:41 |
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popey | AlanBell: do you use kvm on your hetzner box? | 08:45 |
AlanBell | yes | 08:46 |
diplo | sorry desktop locked up there, do you use Virtmanager to connect remotely, or use cli ? | 08:47 |
popey | how do you allocate disk space to the VMs? | 08:47 |
diplo | lol so report a problem (apport) crashed whilst reporting a problem | 08:48 |
diplo | :P | 08:48 |
AlanBell | popey: just with virt-manager, most of our VMs don't need much space | 08:56 |
popey | AlanBell: i mean, do you use lvm or files for the filesystem of the VMs | 08:56 |
AlanBell | and I now let it do the sparce file thing | 08:56 |
JamesTait | Good morning, all! :) | 08:57 |
dogmatic69 | o/ | 08:58 |
AlanBell | popey: they are .img files in /var/lib/libvirt/images and I just stick ext4 on them | 08:58 |
Azelphur | my room has officially turned into Logitech all the things \o/ | 08:58 |
Azelphur | G19, G13, G930, M570 xD | 08:59 |
popey | so they're ext4 on top of ext4? | 08:59 |
AlanBell | no lvm | 08:59 |
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AlanBell | yes, etx4 filesystem in a file that is in an ext4 filesystem | 08:59 |
AlanBell | which is journaling in journaling I suppose | 09:00 |
AlanBell | but seeing as either the guest or the host could have an unplanned shutdown it is probably nice to have journaling on both | 09:01 |
brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 09:03 |
popey | on lug.org.uk we use LVM on the host and xen presents those to the guests | 09:04 |
popey | we're moving lug.org.uk to bitfolk - well, it's moved already | 09:04 |
AlanBell | that sounds quite efficent | 09:04 |
popey | has worked for us for $years | 09:05 |
Azelphur | hmm that's odd, my new mouse has buttons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 and 9. I wonder where 6 and 7 went o.O | 09:06 |
diplo | Someone stole them! | 09:08 |
diplo | Theif! | 09:08 |
Azelphur | Button ninjas! :O | 09:08 |
Azelphur | I'm wondering if there's 2 secret buttons that I am missing or something haha | 09:09 |
diplo | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Get_All_Mouse_Buttons_Working_(%E6%AD%A3%E9%AB%94%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87) | 09:10 |
diplo | Maybe some pointers there ? | 09:10 |
Azelphur | maybe, I'm not sure if I actually have more than 7 buttons though, from what I can see I have 4 buttons and a scroll wheel | 09:11 |
AlanBell | scroll wheel is 4 and 5 | 09:16 |
AlanBell | does it have tilt too? | 09:16 |
Azelphur | nah, no tilt | 09:17 |
Azelphur | maybe 6 and 7 are reserved for tilt if you have it | 09:17 |
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davmor2 | morning all | 10:02 |
davmor2 | czajkowski: prod | 10:02 |
czajkowski | davmor2: ello | 10:09 |
davmor2 | morning czajkowski | 10:10 |
SuperMatt | fuck to the yeah! I've tweak radiance to get a theme that matches spotify :D | 10:10 |
DJones | SuperMatt: Can you tone the language down a bit, remember this is meant to be a family friendly channel | 10:12 |
SuperMatt | sorry | 10:13 |
SuperMatt | I thought I was in another channel | 10:13 |
SuperMatt | my bad | 10:13 |
SuperMatt | I keep doing this | 10:13 |
DJones | No worries :) Accidents happen | 10:13 |
gordonjcp | I hate the phrase "family friendly" | 10:13 |
gordonjcp | what a meaningless string of tosh | 10:13 |
czajkowski | !ask AlanBell | 10:19 |
AlanBell | !tell czajkowski | 10:20 |
AlanBell | :) | 10:20 |
czajkowski | heh | 10:20 |
SuperMatt | http://www.supermatt.net/radiance-spotify/ | 10:23 |
oimon | can anyone recommend a good pico projector? | 10:24 |
Azelphur | I'm having a bit of a wine/nvidia related issue it seems that I'm missing my 32bit compatibility libs for the nvidia drivers so wine reverts to a really old OpenGL version, any ideas on how I'd fix that? | 10:24 |
oimon | or any cheap portable projector really | 10:26 |
gord | Azelphur, ia32-libs ? | 10:27 |
Azelphur | gord: already installed | 10:27 |
Azelphur | In fedora, the package I need is xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs I think | 10:53 |
Azelphur | but it looks like ubuntu doesn't have a similar package :( | 10:53 |
popey | thats nvidia-current | 10:56 |
Azelphur | popey: figured it might be bundled in there, I need the 32bit libraries rather than the whole driver though | 10:56 |
popey | nvidia-current:i386 | 10:56 |
popey | probably wont do what you expect/want | 10:57 |
Azelphur | that's obviously gonna explode things as it'll stall the kernel modules and stuff | 10:57 |
Azelphur | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/852873 looks like this bug | 10:58 |
lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 851947 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu Oneiric) "duplicate for #852873 /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 prevents Doom 3 from starting" [High,Fix released] | 10:58 |
Azelphur | the bot lies, it says unassigned confirmed on launchpad o.O | 10:58 |
popey | no | 11:02 |
popey | its a dupe, the status is for bug #852873 | 11:02 |
lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 851947 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu Oneiric) "duplicate for #852873 /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 prevents Doom 3 from starting" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851947 | 11:02 |
popey | sorry I mean the other way round | 11:03 |
popey | its the status for the main bug not the dupe | 11:03 |
Azelphur | ah | 11:04 |
Azelphur | http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=15537 oO, my exact issue :D | 11:10 |
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bubu\a | hi guys, i've been given a .p12 cert by a windows admin which is needed to connect https between their server and our ubuntu server. how can i convert to a .pem or .crt file so I have my privatekey.key and my crt? | 11:55 |
penguin42 | bubu\a: http://www.sslshopper.com/article-most-common-openssl-commands.html | 11:56 |
penguin42 | bubu\a: It's got a section called 'Converting Using OpenSSL' | 11:56 |
bubu\a | cool thx | 12:20 |
bubu\a | have found a few | 12:20 |
bubu\a | converted several times now | 12:20 |
bubu\a | but when i curl -i https://hisserver:443 I get SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed | 12:21 |
bubu\a | and am not sure why ... have installed other .crt/.key certs ok before | 12:21 |
bubu\a | I get the same error if i curl -i https://127.0.0.1:44 | 12:22 |
bubu\a | 443* | 12:22 |
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Knightwise | hey guys | 12:34 |
Azelphur | Santander just sent me an email to explain what a cookie is | 12:34 |
Azelphur | "‘Cookies’ enable users to navigate around websites" | 12:34 |
* Azelphur stabs | 12:34 | |
popey | heh, yeah | 12:34 |
popey | and note the domain its sent from | 12:34 |
popey | "yoursantander" | 12:34 |
Azelphur | haha | 12:34 |
Azelphur | "This email is intended for Mr Day, 2AR" ... what? | 12:35 |
Knightwise | i was looking to install vuze on my ppc mac , and it askes me to install jde (or jre) | 12:35 |
popey | their attempt to prove it's from them | 12:35 |
Azelphur | haha | 12:35 |
Knightwise | is that an apt-get i should do ? | 12:36 |
popey | Knightwise: http://kapsulax.blogspot.co.uk/2008/08/java-plugin-under-linux-ppc.html | 12:37 |
Knightwise | thanx popey ! | 12:39 |
Knightwise | gonna give it a try | 12:39 |
Knightwise | got Lubuntu working on my 17 inch G4 imac | 12:39 |
Knightwise | beautiful piece of tech | 12:39 |
Knightwise | If i can get Java working on it it will make a very pretty server :) | 12:39 |
popey | sweet | 12:40 |
Knightwise | yep :) will be doing a podcast on it this week | 12:41 |
Knightwise | and did a videoblog on it yesterday | 12:41 |
Knightwise | Jury is still out if its gonna be lxde or xfce in the long run | 12:42 |
penguin42 | I don't suppose anyone has an android dev/ndk setup that they fancy checking to see whether build instructions I've written work for anyone else? | 12:46 |
* Azelphur is eating fish fingers and custard :D | 14:24 | |
davmor2 | Azelphur: you are not doctor who :P | 14:25 |
Azelphur | I am now! | 14:25 |
Azelphur | it's actually quite nice | 14:26 |
DJones | Somebody was talking about eating pancakes with gravy the other day, that sounded vile until they said its the same as yorkshire pudding & grivy | 14:27 |
Azelphur | 10 fish fingers, £1. Tin of Devon custard, 89p. Eating like a time lord: priceless :D | 14:30 |
davmor2 | DJones: nope it still sounds vile | 14:30 |
davmor2 | Azelphur: I was aiming more for eating like a time lord: Prat! ;) | 14:31 |
Azelphur | hehe | 14:32 |
Azelphur | Anyone here have a 4 directional scroll wheel and mind running xev and telling me what button numbers the left and right are? | 14:49 |
Hornet | Azelphur: that would be unlimited rice pudding | 15:04 |
Azelphur | xD | 15:04 |
vedreamer | I'm trying to build a kernel on a vm with a small disk. I think I just need the virtual .deb files. Anyone know how I can do this | 15:12 |
vedreamer | I used fakeroot debian/rules binary | 15:12 |
AlanBell | choo choo | 15:56 |
* brobostigon joins in making choochoo sounds. | 15:57 | |
czajkowski | choo choo July 14th :) | 15:59 |
brobostigon | rat | 16:00 |
penguin42 | ? | 16:00 |
AlanBell | yes, that one does make all the right noises | 16:03 |
gord | really am disappointed by the lack of chooing that modern trains do | 16:04 |
mattt | yes, what we need are trains w/ more choo | 16:07 |
* mattt stares at gord | 16:07 | |
gord | they also need to go chugga-cha-chug. chugga-cha-chug more | 16:10 |
gord | so i can nap | 16:10 |
gord | and occasionally just as i am going to sleep, one should be sent out to make pleasing noises in the distance | 16:10 |
czajkowski | gord: you should have that as a ring tone ! | 16:13 |
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AlanBell | afternoon naps are nice | 16:44 |
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mattt | AlanBell: on holiday this week? | 17:01 |
bigcalm_laptop | Afternoon peeps :) | 17:07 |
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DJones | Whats happening at RIM? Just seen a stock market alert saying their shares have been suspended | 20:18 |
dogmatic69 | I have heard shares get suspended if there is a big jump in a few minutes, quite normal apparently | 20:19 |
DJones | Just looking at news, sounds like they're reporting very poor results | 20:20 |
dogmatic69 | stocks up .7% | 20:20 |
dogmatic69 | google says they lost a senior exec | 20:20 |
dogmatic69 | *another | 20:21 |
dogmatic69 | chief legal officer is retiring | 20:21 |
* DJones makes a note not to buy a RIM phone | 20:21 | |
ali1234 | RIM is toast | 20:21 |
ali1234 | because they failed to understand who was buying their phones | 20:21 |
dogmatic69 | also, they are cutting 1000's of jobs | 20:21 |
dogmatic69 | 14 yo girls... | 20:22 |
ali1234 | exactly | 20:22 |
DJones | ali1234: toast is good, I get the feeling that rim isn't doing good :) | 20:22 |
dogmatic69 | but its a 'business' phone | 20:22 |
ali1234 | exactly! | 20:22 |
dogmatic69 | DJones: good time to short some shares... | 20:22 |
MartijnVdS | I don't want to do business with 14 yr old girls | 20:22 |
ali1234 | their developer offering is entirely geared towards "enterprise" developers | 20:22 |
dogmatic69 | ali1234: well, marketing found that is what 14 yo girls need | 20:23 |
MartijnVdS | ali1234: and it's a bad sdk too.. | 20:23 |
dogmatic69 | help with cookie sales and all... | 20:23 |
DJones | director at work has just replaced his blackberry with an iphone because the blackberry was rubbish at internet based things | 20:23 |
ali1234 | it's not particularly bad, it just isnt designed for making angry birds and social apps | 20:23 |
dogmatic69 | BBM! | 20:23 |
ali1234 | now nokia has the exact opposite problem: their main market (symbian) is business users, but their ecosystem is designed around ... angry birds and social apps that business users do not want | 20:24 |
MartijnVdS | dogmatic69: it doesn't even use the internet.. it uses RIMs butchered version | 20:24 |
MartijnVdS | so you always need a RIM server/subscription | 20:24 |
dogmatic69 | ye | 20:24 |
ali1234 | BBM was extremely popular with teenagers because it is much much cheaper than SMS | 20:24 |
MartijnVdS | which is why I use gtalk | 20:25 |
ali1234 | BBM is cheaper than "unlimited" internet | 20:27 |
MartijnVdS | not anymore here | 20:28 |
MartijnVdS | they're making you buy both here | 20:28 |
ali1234 | true, that's another reason why RIM is toast | 20:28 |
ali1234 | i see the facebook phone announcement failed to lift the share price | 20:29 |
MartijnVdS | there's an announcement? | 20:29 |
ali1234 | yeah. bbc don't print rumours unless they're official off the record rumours | 20:30 |
DJones | This would explain the share notice http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/05/29/205256/rim-may-need-to-write-off-1-billion-in-inventory?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter | 20:43 |
shauno | RIM are rather scary. I can't remember the last time I heard any good news from them at all | 20:46 |
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dogmatic69 | anyone familiar with doxygen? | 22:13 |
dogmatic69 | I want to use terminal version only, eg doxygen <command> but the installer wants to dl 600mb. This is 11.10 server and guessing its that big due to the doxygen gui parts | 22:14 |
dogmatic69 | well, 420mb, 680 installed http://bin.cakephp.org/view/773503325 | 22:15 |
gord | dogmatic69, nah, doxygen is just huuuuge | 22:39 |
dogmatic69 | gord: cool, I will just do it and hope for the best... :D | 22:43 |
gord | the gui tool is basically just a quick and dirty application that just runs the command line anyway :) | 22:45 |
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