[00:02] [Stuart Langridge] Things that compile to JavaScript - http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2012/05/29/things-that-compile-to-javascript [00:08] directhex: upboated all the things! except cats. I don't get it. [07:02] directhex: can you ask Daniel Sor to put a proper license on that bit? === zz_diddledan is now known as diddledan [07:22] AlanBell: i've filed a bug upstream about the issue, and they've implied that they're going to try and do that [07:24] they're taking the issue seriously, which is nice [07:34] Morning all [07:44] hello all [08:09] aloha [08:09] heya petal :) [08:15] christel: hows you darling? [08:15] not too shabby [08:20] * mattt is a grump today [08:23] hi christel czajkowski mattt [08:26] HELLO LOVELY [08:26] * christel squidges MooDoo and matti [08:26] mattt* [08:27] awwww :) christel <3 x [08:27] <3 [08:30] morning christel [08:30] and others [08:31] Install Vbox or KVM+VirtManager peeps? [08:31] Thoughts? [08:31] diplo: for local stuff? [08:31] yeah [08:31] hello AlanBell :) [08:31] if you want 3d accellerated guests then virtualbox [08:31] CentOS 4.8 dev work :( [08:31] nah no 3d [08:31] if you want to have a setup that is like you might have running on a server then kvm [08:31] just cli, creating new rpm packages for our customers on 4.8 :/ [08:31] Ta [08:32] virtualbox is easier and gui stuff works better [08:32] but kvm is possibly a more useful thing to learn about [08:32] ah I remember I had a pain in my **** with doing the network side of kvm last time [08:32] Oh defo [08:32] yeah, it is still a pita [08:33] :( [08:33] morning moodoo, christel :) [08:33] nat is easy, but bridging can be challenging [08:33] I'll install both and play I guess, get's me used to them again [08:33] christel: you will have to pop in to the office for a cuppa [08:33] yes! i must [08:33] :D [08:39] bridging is easy [08:39] as long as you have a bridge device :D [08:41] hmm failed to install anyway.. so virt box for now and find out why kvm packages failed later === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [08:45] AlanBell: do you use kvm on your hetzner box? [08:46] yes [08:47] sorry desktop locked up there, do you use Virtmanager to connect remotely, or use cli ? [08:47] how do you allocate disk space to the VMs? [08:48] lol so report a problem (apport) crashed whilst reporting a problem [08:48] :P [08:56] popey: just with virt-manager, most of our VMs don't need much space [08:56] AlanBell: i mean, do you use lvm or files for the filesystem of the VMs [08:56] and I now let it do the sparce file thing [08:57] Good morning, all! :) [08:58] o/ [08:58] popey: they are .img files in /var/lib/libvirt/images and I just stick ext4 on them [08:58] my room has officially turned into Logitech all the things \o/ [08:59] G19, G13, G930, M570 xD [08:59] so they're ext4 on top of ext4? [08:59] no lvm === jmp_ is now known as _jmp_ [08:59] yes, etx4 filesystem in a file that is in an ext4 filesystem [09:00] which is journaling in journaling I suppose [09:01] but seeing as either the guest or the host could have an unplanned shutdown it is probably nice to have journaling on both [09:03] good morning everyone. [09:04] on lug.org.uk we use LVM on the host and xen presents those to the guests [09:04] we're moving lug.org.uk to bitfolk - well, it's moved already [09:04] that sounds quite efficent [09:05] has worked for us for $years [09:06] hmm that's odd, my new mouse has buttons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 and 9. I wonder where 6 and 7 went o.O [09:08] Someone stole them! [09:08] Theif! [09:08] Button ninjas! :O [09:09] I'm wondering if there's 2 secret buttons that I am missing or something haha [09:10] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Get_All_Mouse_Buttons_Working_(%E6%AD%A3%E9%AB%94%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87) [09:10] Maybe some pointers there ? [09:11] maybe, I'm not sure if I actually have more than 7 buttons though, from what I can see I have 4 buttons and a scroll wheel [09:16] scroll wheel is 4 and 5 [09:16] does it have tilt too? [09:17] nah, no tilt [09:17] maybe 6 and 7 are reserved for tilt if you have it === JamesTai1 is now known as JamesTait [10:02] morning all [10:02] czajkowski: prod [10:09] davmor2: ello [10:10] morning czajkowski [10:10] fuck to the yeah! I've tweak radiance to get a theme that matches spotify :D [10:12] SuperMatt: Can you tone the language down a bit, remember this is meant to be a family friendly channel [10:13] sorry [10:13] I thought I was in another channel [10:13] my bad [10:13] I keep doing this [10:13] No worries :) Accidents happen [10:13] I hate the phrase "family friendly" [10:13] what a meaningless string of tosh [10:19] !ask AlanBell [10:20] !tell czajkowski [10:20] :) [10:20] heh [10:23] http://www.supermatt.net/radiance-spotify/ [10:24] can anyone recommend a good pico projector? [10:24] I'm having a bit of a wine/nvidia related issue it seems that I'm missing my 32bit compatibility libs for the nvidia drivers so wine reverts to a really old OpenGL version, any ideas on how I'd fix that? [10:26] or any cheap portable projector really [10:27] Azelphur, ia32-libs ? [10:27] gord: already installed [10:53] In fedora, the package I need is xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs I think [10:53] but it looks like ubuntu doesn't have a similar package :( [10:56] thats nvidia-current [10:56] popey: figured it might be bundled in there, I need the 32bit libraries rather than the whole driver though [10:56] nvidia-current:i386 [10:57] probably wont do what you expect/want [10:57] that's obviously gonna explode things as it'll stall the kernel modules and stuff [10:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/852873 looks like this bug [10:58] Ubuntu bug 851947 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu Oneiric) "duplicate for #852873 /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 prevents Doom 3 from starting" [High,Fix released] [10:58] the bot lies, it says unassigned confirmed on launchpad o.O [11:02] no [11:02] its a dupe, the status is for bug #852873 [11:02] Launchpad bug 851947 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu Oneiric) "duplicate for #852873 /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 prevents Doom 3 from starting" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851947 [11:03] sorry I mean the other way round [11:03] its the status for the main bug not the dupe [11:04] ah [11:10] http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=15537 oO, my exact issue :D === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [11:55] hi guys, i've been given a .p12 cert by a windows admin which is needed to connect https between their server and our ubuntu server. how can i convert to a .pem or .crt file so I have my privatekey.key and my crt? [11:56] bubu\a: http://www.sslshopper.com/article-most-common-openssl-commands.html [11:56] bubu\a: It's got a section called 'Converting Using OpenSSL' [12:20] cool thx [12:20] have found a few [12:20] converted several times now [12:21] but when i curl -i https://hisserver:443 I get SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed [12:21] and am not sure why ... have installed other .crt/.key certs ok before [12:22] I get the same error if i curl -i https://127.0.0.1:44 [12:22] 443* === dgjones is now known as DJones [12:34] hey guys [12:34] Santander just sent me an email to explain what a cookie is [12:34] "‘Cookies’ enable users to navigate around websites" [12:34] * Azelphur stabs [12:34] heh, yeah [12:34] and note the domain its sent from [12:34] "yoursantander" [12:34] haha [12:35] "This email is intended for Mr Day, 2AR" ... what? [12:35] i was looking to install vuze on my ppc mac , and it askes me to install jde (or jre) [12:35] their attempt to prove it's from them [12:35] haha [12:36] is that an apt-get i should do ? [12:37] Knightwise: http://kapsulax.blogspot.co.uk/2008/08/java-plugin-under-linux-ppc.html [12:39] thanx popey ! [12:39] gonna give it a try [12:39] got Lubuntu working on my 17 inch G4 imac [12:39] beautiful piece of tech [12:39] If i can get Java working on it it will make a very pretty server :) [12:40] sweet [12:41] yep :) will be doing a podcast on it this week [12:41] and did a videoblog on it yesterday [12:42] Jury is still out if its gonna be lxde or xfce in the long run [12:46] I don't suppose anyone has an android dev/ndk setup that they fancy checking to see whether build instructions I've written work for anyone else? [14:24] * Azelphur is eating fish fingers and custard :D [14:25] Azelphur: you are not doctor who :P [14:25] I am now! [14:26] it's actually quite nice [14:27] Somebody was talking about eating pancakes with gravy the other day, that sounded vile until they said its the same as yorkshire pudding & grivy [14:30] 10 fish fingers, £1. Tin of Devon custard, 89p. Eating like a time lord: priceless :D [14:30] DJones: nope it still sounds vile [14:31] Azelphur: I was aiming more for eating like a time lord: Prat! ;) [14:32] hehe [14:49] Anyone here have a 4 directional scroll wheel and mind running xev and telling me what button numbers the left and right are? [15:04] Azelphur: that would be unlimited rice pudding [15:04] xD [15:12] I'm trying to build a kernel on a vm with a small disk. I think I just need the virtual .deb files. Anyone know how I can do this [15:12] I used fakeroot debian/rules binary [15:56] choo choo [15:57] * brobostigon joins in making choochoo sounds. [15:59] choo choo July 14th :) [16:00] rat [16:00] ? [16:03] yes, that one does make all the right noises [16:04] really am disappointed by the lack of chooing that modern trains do [16:07] yes, what we need are trains w/ more choo [16:07] * mattt stares at gord [16:10] they also need to go chugga-cha-chug. chugga-cha-chug more [16:10] so i can nap [16:10] and occasionally just as i am going to sleep, one should be sent out to make pleasing noises in the distance [16:13] gord: you should have that as a ring tone ! === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [16:44] afternoon naps are nice === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [17:01] AlanBell: on holiday this week? [17:07] Afternoon peeps :) === soreau_ is now known as soreau [20:18] Whats happening at RIM? Just seen a stock market alert saying their shares have been suspended [20:19] I have heard shares get suspended if there is a big jump in a few minutes, quite normal apparently [20:20] Just looking at news, sounds like they're reporting very poor results [20:20] stocks up .7% [20:20] google says they lost a senior exec [20:21] *another [20:21] chief legal officer is retiring [20:21] * DJones makes a note not to buy a RIM phone [20:21] RIM is toast [20:21] because they failed to understand who was buying their phones [20:21] also, they are cutting 1000's of jobs [20:22] 14 yo girls... [20:22] exactly [20:22] ali1234: toast is good, I get the feeling that rim isn't doing good :) [20:22] but its a 'business' phone [20:22] exactly! [20:22] DJones: good time to short some shares... [20:22] I don't want to do business with 14 yr old girls [20:22] their developer offering is entirely geared towards "enterprise" developers [20:23] ali1234: well, marketing found that is what 14 yo girls need [20:23] ali1234: and it's a bad sdk too.. [20:23] help with cookie sales and all... [20:23] director at work has just replaced his blackberry with an iphone because the blackberry was rubbish at internet based things [20:23] it's not particularly bad, it just isnt designed for making angry birds and social apps [20:23] BBM! [20:24] now nokia has the exact opposite problem: their main market (symbian) is business users, but their ecosystem is designed around ... angry birds and social apps that business users do not want [20:24] dogmatic69: it doesn't even use the internet.. it uses RIMs butchered version [20:24] so you always need a RIM server/subscription [20:24] ye [20:24] BBM was extremely popular with teenagers because it is much much cheaper than SMS [20:25] which is why I use gtalk [20:27] BBM is cheaper than "unlimited" internet [20:28] not anymore here [20:28] they're making you buy both here [20:28] true, that's another reason why RIM is toast [20:29] i see the facebook phone announcement failed to lift the share price [20:29] there's an announcement? [20:30] yeah. bbc don't print rumours unless they're official off the record rumours [20:43] This would explain the share notice http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/05/29/205256/rim-may-need-to-write-off-1-billion-in-inventory?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter [20:46] RIM are rather scary. I can't remember the last time I heard any good news from them at all === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [22:13] anyone familiar with doxygen? [22:14] I want to use terminal version only, eg doxygen but the installer wants to dl 600mb. This is 11.10 server and guessing its that big due to the doxygen gui parts [22:15] well, 420mb, 680 installed http://bin.cakephp.org/view/773503325 [22:39] dogmatic69, nah, doxygen is just huuuuge [22:43] gord: cool, I will just do it and hope for the best... :D [22:45] the gui tool is basically just a quick and dirty application that just runs the command line anyway :)