[09:23] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:38] <rmg51> Morning
[09:49] <JonathanD> hey rmg51
[09:51] <rmg51> Yo
[09:53] <JonathanD> Whats up?
[10:34] <rmg51> nothing at the moment
[10:35] <rmg51> just heading to the kitchen for breakfast
[10:58] <waltman> Morning
[11:01] <JonathanD> Hey waltman
[11:04] <waltman> Yo.
[11:06] <JonathanD> Whats up/
[11:17] <waltman> Oh, not much. You?
[11:17] <JonathanD> Nothing.
[11:17] <JonathanD> I'd like to go for a bike ride.
[11:18] <waltman> This was my day yesterday: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4508921/multi_inspectors.jpg
[11:18] <JonathanD> looks fun :)
[11:18] <JonathanD> aren't you a little old to play with crayons, though? ;)
[11:18] <waltman> It got a little scrunched when I had to switch back to my little laptop screen.
[11:19] <JonathanD> Yeah.
[11:19] <waltman> My crayons didn't have licorice :)
[11:19] <JonathanD> thats not the laptop screen, then?
[11:19] <JonathanD> thats an external?
[11:19] <waltman> Most of the day I was on an external monitor.
[11:19] <JonathanD> waltman: this is why I had such a hard time picking my laptop.
[11:19] <waltman> oh?
[11:19] <JonathanD> I wanted a 1680x1050. but they are gone.
[11:20] <JonathanD> no one makes them anymore.
[11:20] <JonathanD> Just 1080 screens on laptops the size of RI.
[11:20] <waltman> that's 1280x800
[11:20] <JonathanD> yes
[11:20] <JonathanD> and it's already crowded :P
[11:20] <waltman> It's not crowded on my 20" monitor :)
[11:20] <JonathanD> well
[11:21] <JonathanD> it looks crowded :P
[11:21] <waltman> But it's a pain to set that up.
[11:21] <JonathanD> waltman: https://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2009/01/06/lenovo_dual_screen.jpg&sa=X&ei=KbHET9KFGMX76gHmxYXDCg&ved=0CAkQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNGsgkc4imE_zdtdGKmQLEGyp_gjrQ
[11:21] <JonathanD> You should get that ;)
[11:21] <JonathanD> and get me one, while you're at it...
[11:22] <waltman> Wait, is that a laptop with a built-in number pad?
[11:22] <JonathanD> yes.
[11:22] <JonathanD> and an extra screen.
[11:22] <waltman> and...yes
[11:22] <JonathanD> the thing on the wrist rest is a wacom tablet.
[11:23] <waltman> Plus you don't have to go to the gym, because lugging that around everyday is a great workout!
[11:23] <JonathanD> yup
[11:23] <JonathanD> 2 inches thick
[11:23] <JonathanD> not suprising, given the mechanism for a slide out screen...
[11:24] <waltman> The real reason I took that screenshot was to show that I had multiple inspector windows open. That's kind of a hidden feature of Keynote.
[11:24] <JonathanD> 11 lbs
[11:24] <waltman> yow!
[11:24] <JonathanD> + 2 more for the power brick.
[11:24] <waltman> normally when I run keynote I'd have a lot fewer windows open.
[11:24] <JonathanD> I imagine it's an extra special power brick for the 2KW that thing probably needs.
[11:25] <JonathanD> probably has 2 power cords, you're supposed to plug each into a seperate circuit ;)
[11:25] <JonathanD> waltman: yah.
[11:26] <JonathanD> waltman: I figure the 2nd monitor on that thing would be practical for uses where you have lots of secondary windows/dialogs.
[11:26] <JonathanD> Which is why I bring it up.
[11:26] <waltman> You probably have to plug it into a 220V outlet :)
[11:26] <JonathanD> heh
[11:26] <JonathanD> waltman: did I ever tell you about the AIX thinkpad?
[11:27] <JonathanD> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:860
[11:27] <JonathanD> check out that bad boy :p
[11:28] <waltman> nice
[11:28] <JonathanD> waltman: they are rather rare.
[11:28] <JonathanD> waltman: but there was an accesory available for it.
[11:28] <JonathanD> a 7 disk scsi array, with wheels.
[11:29] <JonathanD> Hope wherever you're going has an elevator...
[11:30] <waltman> First laptop I ever used on a regular basis was a compaq I got from work in 1995. To move the mouse pointer around, you used a tiny trackball built into the monitor!
[11:31] <JonathanD> waltman: I uh... still have that one.
[11:31] <JonathanD> compaq LTE
[11:32] <JonathanD> https://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.obsolete-tears.com/photos/compaq_lte_elite_c440cx.jpg&sa=X&ei=wLPET4eWCOKF6QHC1PXhAQ&ved=0CAkQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNHeqHx8BYjxqo5AWdl-omj9emQoIw
[11:32] <JonathanD> with the mouse buttons on the outside of the case.
[11:33] <waltman> yep!
[11:33] <JonathanD> waltman: jason uses it.
[11:33] <waltman> Mine might've have been a slightly different model, but that was the basic design
[11:33] <JonathanD> That things gotta be 12 years... more even?
[11:33] <waltman> this one would have been 17 years ago.
[11:34] <JonathanD> geez
[11:34] <JonathanD> still works, too
[11:34] <JonathanD> don't make em like they used to, waltman :p
[11:34] <waltman> I installed Windows 95 on it. From floppies. Multiple times. :)
[11:34] <waltman> Good times.
[11:34] <JonathanD> course laptops don't cost as much as new cars anymore, either.
[11:35] <JonathanD> I recall 95 being s lot of disks:D
[11:35] <waltman> Apple's do! :)
[11:35] <waltman> OK, time for breakfast !
[12:19] <InHisName> Morning
[12:21] <JonathanD> hey InHisName
[12:21]  * JonathanD off to work now
[13:08] <JonathanD> Morning again.
[13:17] <rmg51> that dang JonathanD is acting up again ;-)
[13:18] <JonathanD> sorry.
[13:18] <JonathanD> See, I have the cable strung under my floor mat, and sometimes the chair rolls over it...
[13:20] <rmg51> try to be more careful :-D
[13:22] <JonathanD> rmg51: well, it's better than having people trip over it.
[13:24] <rmg51> I'll have Teddy make you a keep out sign
[14:31] <JonathanD> 40
[14:50] <adom> howdy
[14:50] <JonathanD> hey.
[14:50] <adom> been awhile.
[14:51] <adom> whats new in here?
[14:51] <JonathanD> nothing much, that I'm aware of?
[14:51] <JonathanD> adom: you missed the geeknic :P
[14:52] <adom> geeknic!?
[14:52] <adom> oh wait, in philly
[14:52] <adom> ?
[14:53] <JonathanD> near
[14:53] <JonathanD> warminster
[14:53] <adom> then meh. im up in erie still. looking for nerd jobs in Pittsburgh.
[14:53] <JonathanD> you could have made it :P
[14:53] <JonathanD> it's only, what, 7 hour drive?
[14:53] <JonathanD> I've done it a couple times :p
[15:45] <InHisName> you're in Erie and looking to commute to Pitts ?
[15:46] <JonathanD> hey InHisName
[15:46] <MutantTurkey> Pittsburg ish ya mon
[15:46] <MutantTurkey> i'll be at pitt next weekend - any good places to go?
[15:47] <InHisName> They might have a MickyDs there.
[15:48] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: aquarium.
[15:48] <JonathanD> walk through the submarine.
[15:48] <MutantTurkey> JonathanD: yeah I used to live over in pitts so I've done the zoo, the parks, the public works stuff
[15:49] <MutantTurkey> which is always fun
[15:49] <JonathanD> the zoo is nice too yeah.
[15:49] <MutantTurkey> I love the zoo
[15:49] <JonathanD> and that park ... with the coaster...
[15:49] <JonathanD> kennywood?
[15:49] <MutantTurkey> plus the inclines are always fun.
[15:49] <JonathanD> heh
[15:49] <MutantTurkey> anyway I'll probably end up just hanging out doing nothing LOL
[16:07] <waltman> MutantTurkey: there's a Hofbräuhaus on the south side by the river.
[16:08] <MutantTurkey> meh
[16:08] <MutantTurkey> i've been to the real Hofbrauhaus
[16:09] <waltman> the inside is crazy, but they have a big outdoor eating area which is much saner. It can be quite pleasant to sit outside drinking beer and eating German food by the river.
[16:10] <waltman> there are some museums over by CMU that look fun, but I've never been inside them.
[16:10] <waltman> MutantTurkey: Have you been to the Church Brew Works?
[16:11] <MutantTurkey> CMU is awsome
[16:11] <MutantTurkey> i know the dean of CS, he's a very cool guy
[16:11] <MutantTurkey> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~bryant/
[16:11] <waltman> http://www.churchbrew.com/
[16:11] <MutantTurkey> why do all professor pages no matter where you go look the same
[16:13] <waltman> Because they all did their pages in 1997?
[16:21] <MutantTurkey> lol basically
[18:45] <MutantTurkey> rah
[18:46] <MutantTurkey> with Vim can you have it always open in tabs
[18:46] <MutantTurkey> without specifying vim -p file file2 file3
[19:09] <SamuraiAlba> good bacon to all!
[19:12] <JonathanD> hey SamuraiAlba
[19:12] <JonathanD> we missed you yesterday.
[19:12] <JonathanD> Everyone was crying and stuff.
[19:13] <SamuraiAlba> Sorry :(
[19:13] <JonathanD> It's ok.
[19:13] <SamuraiAlba> Anyone care to pick up a server, 48 port 10/100 Cisco switch, and a m0n0 firewall?
[19:13] <JonathanD> Next ones at your house?
[19:14] <SamuraiAlba> Free to a good organization that helps people with FOSS :)
[19:14] <SamuraiAlba> Next one can be at my place
[19:14] <SamuraiAlba> :)
[19:16] <JonathanD> Hows Saturday?
[19:16] <JonathanD> :P
[19:17] <SamuraiAlba> sunday better :)
[19:17] <SamuraiAlba> Will be in sicklerville on Sat
[19:17] <JonathanD> I can't do Sundays (most of the time)
[19:17] <SamuraiAlba> hmmm
[19:17] <JonathanD> I wasn't serious about this sat, though
[19:17] <SamuraiAlba> LOL
[19:17] <JonathanD> I can't keep up that pace :p
[19:17] <JonathanD> Besides, sadin will want to come.
[19:17] <SamuraiAlba> If Sadin comes, he can take a server home :)
[19:17] <sadin> I CANT O.o
[19:18] <sadin> waaaaa
[19:18]  * sadin packs his things
[19:18] <JonathanD> sadin: why can't you?
[19:18] <sadin> How am i getting there my dad works i dont have my license yet my mom thinks people on the internet are child abductors....
[19:18] <sadin> :(
[19:18] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: you said the server is not that loud?
[19:18] <SamuraiAlba> not loud at all
[19:19] <SamuraiAlba> Dual Xeon 5120's
[19:19] <JonathanD> moment
[19:19] <MutantTurkey> sadin: don't worry at least your mom won't call the police on jedijf
[19:19] <MutantTurkey> ;x
[19:19]  * sadin cires cause he wants that server
[19:19] <sadin> cries*
[19:19] <SamuraiAlba> I need a van... license plate "KIDNPR"
[19:19] <sadin> lol
[19:19] <JonathanD> sadin: we'll find a way :p
[19:19] <MutantTurkey> anyone see the I_CAPE_RATS
[19:19] <MutantTurkey> on reddit
[19:19] <MutantTurkey> that got my laugh up
[19:19] <SamuraiAlba> Mutu!
[19:19] <JonathanD> We had highschool students at this last one.
[19:19] <JonathanD> If that helps.
[19:20] <MutantTurkey> SamuraiAlba: sup?
[19:20] <SamuraiAlba> High school students dont taste as good as baby
[19:20] <MutantTurkey> exactly
[19:20] <SamuraiAlba> nm, man.  What u been up to?
[19:20] <JonathanD> I don't think sadin is a baby?
[19:20] <MutantTurkey> us athiests love some warm babies
[19:20] <MutantTurkey> SamuraiAlba: working at drexel doing research for the summer
[19:20] <SamuraiAlba> Little cumin, paprika, cayenne, mandarin orange juice...
[19:20] <MutantTurkey> don't need a server right now... have access to drexel's
[19:20] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: I'd like one for hive.
[19:20] <JonathanD> I think they will want to trade it out for the noisy death server they have.
[19:21] <JonathanD> and if not, I'll find a place for it to live where they can use it.
[19:21] <SamuraiAlba> Need an vmware license set, too?
[19:21] <SamuraiAlba> *a vmware
[19:21] <JonathanD> ESXi is probably good enough...
[19:21] <SamuraiAlba> yeah
[19:21] <JonathanD> unless theres more than one.
[19:21] <SamuraiAlba> Just need to find 6 more GB of FB-ECC DDR2
[19:22] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: how much is in it?
[19:22] <SamuraiAlba> 2gb
[19:22] <SamuraiAlba> it maxes at 8
[19:22] <JonathanD> enough for a couple linux VMs
[19:22] <SamuraiAlba> but still nice toy
[19:22] <JonathanD> what the ram tech?
[19:22] <SamuraiAlba> and if you grab two 5300 series Xeons AFTER a bios upgrade, it can do dual quads
[19:22] <SamuraiAlba> It's FB-ECC DDR2 DIMM
[19:22] <JonathanD> Ok.
[19:22] <JonathanD> I may have some.
[19:23] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: is this tower form factor?
[19:24] <SamuraiAlba> I think I can grab a poweredge 840 off my boss for free, too, but I will have to ask
[19:24] <SamuraiAlba> Tower form BTX I think
[19:24] <JonathanD> that would be perfect
[19:24] <JonathanD> nestle it in a corner somewhere.
[19:24] <JonathanD> have you been to hive?
[19:24] <SamuraiAlba> I cant get FREE Rack ones, but I can pint you towards cheap racks, too
[19:24] <SamuraiAlba> No I have not
[19:24] <SamuraiAlba> what is it like?
[19:25] <SamuraiAlba> If you want, I can drop Ubuntu 12.04 server on the tower and then add the GUI
[19:25] <JonathanD> it's a little hackerspace.
[19:25] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: I'll do an ESXi install on it myself, probably.
[19:25] <SamuraiAlba> okie
[19:25] <JonathanD> We have a couple of those here.
[19:25] <JonathanD> They're ok on network gear and stuff.
[19:25] <JonathanD> But really you should come check it out on open house night :)
[19:26] <SamuraiAlba> Need a Firebox X500 1.2Ghz Celly?
[19:26] <SamuraiAlba> It has m0n0
[19:26] <SamuraiAlba> 1.8b
[19:26] <JonathanD> not that I'm aware of.
[19:26] <JonathanD> At least, not for anything foss related :P
[19:27] <SamuraiAlba> It's running FOSS :)
[19:27] <MutantTurkey> sigh i hate all these liberals on facebook who are arguing with these conservatives
[19:27] <MutantTurkey> i just laugh...
[19:27] <JonathanD> I know ,I mean, I don't know of any suitable use for it that wouldn't be completely self-serving ;)
[19:27] <SamuraiAlba> That's bad
[19:27] <SamuraiAlba> lol
[19:27] <MutantTurkey> I called them both "statists" and people were like "we're not a statistic"...
[19:29] <SamuraiAlba> They can be LOL
[19:30]  * SamuraiAlba loads the paintball gun
[19:31] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: hive is a hackerspace in CC. It's a small space, lots of nifty things in it though.  3d printing, electric music on equipment built there, all sorts of things.
[19:31] <JonathanD> a working spy hunter arcade console...
[19:31] <SamuraiAlba> Has anyone played with http://www.sarducd.it
[19:31] <SamuraiAlba> ?
[19:31] <sadin> Fedora17 just pushed out yay!
[19:32]  * sadin realizes no one cares :P
[19:32] <SamuraiAlba> woot?
[19:32] <sadin> Im a fedora contributor :P
[19:32] <SamuraiAlba> nice!
[19:32] <MutantTurkey> sadin: artwork/
[19:32] <MutantTurkey> ?
[19:32] <sadin> artwork
[19:32] <MutantTurkey> LOL
[19:33] <sadin> and i contribute to xfce now too
[19:33] <MutantTurkey> artwork?
[19:33] <sadin> MutantTurkey hmm?
[19:33] <MutantTurkey> sadin: but really, contributing to projects is awesome
[19:33] <MutantTurkey> what are you working on with xfce?
[19:33] <sadin> Shimmer project building themes for xfce and i help the xubuntu design team now
[19:34] <sadin> Maintaining the themes xubuntu uses and that anything with xfce can use really and keeping them modern.
[19:34] <SamuraiAlba> JonathanD, cool beans
[19:34] <SamuraiAlba> I need to stop up
[19:34] <SamuraiAlba> when is the next open house?
[19:37] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: every weds
[19:39] <SamuraiAlba> cool beans
[19:39] <JonathanD> 7pm
[19:39] <JonathanD> 9th and spring garden, or pretty near there.
[19:40] <SamuraiAlba> which city?
[19:40] <JonathanD> Philly.
[19:40] <JonathanD> the only real city :P
[19:41] <SamuraiAlba> Not Camden?
[19:41] <waltman> hmm, maybe I can stop by there sometime in June...
[19:41] <SamuraiAlba> Oh you meant REAL NOT CRAPPY CITY
[19:41] <JonathanD> waltman: you should
[19:41] <JonathanD> waltman: let me know though and I'll come down too
[19:42] <waltman> not tomorrow. and probably not 6/27.
[19:42] <JonathanD> I won't be there tomorrow, I don't think.
[19:42] <JonathanD> I'm still shot from this weekend.
[19:43] <waltman> I was shot from *last* week. I mostly just chilled and worked at home this weekend.
[19:44] <SamuraiAlba> I chilled beer in the freezer
[19:46] <MutantTurkey> sadin: you should get your hands dirty with code
[19:46] <JonathanD> waltman: is the mac thing this weekend?
[19:47] <sadin> MutantTurkey I do program with JS or Ruby
[19:47] <sadin> sometimes PHP
[19:47] <waltman> JonathanD: yes
[19:47] <MutantTurkey> sadin: the xfce code is clean and nice (C) so it's good to work with
[19:47] <sadin> cool
[19:48] <MutantTurkey> though I quickly gave up on it.
[19:49] <sadin> Id still use ubuntu over fedora if when i started out with linux i knew about Xubuntu
[19:50] <MutantTurkey> use Arch.
[19:51] <sadin> Nah... i love arch i just dont feel like it :/
[19:51] <sadin> besides im obligated being part of fedora and all...
[19:51] <SamuraiAlba> JonathanD, when do you wanna swing on out to grab some hardware goodies?
[20:01] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: where?
[20:01] <SamuraiAlba> 605 Doris Avenu Millville, NJ 08332-1403 :)
[20:02] <MutantTurkey> IM COMING FOR YOU
[20:02] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: I have no idea :)
[20:02] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: we share a car, so it isn't always up to me.
[20:02] <SamuraiAlba> I'll be nekkid and have the strawberry jam :)
[20:02] <MutantTurkey> lol
[20:03] <SamuraiAlba> and my Runescape acct was hacked MONTHS ago and I cant get it back :(
[20:03] <SamuraiAlba> I let it lapse for a bit
[20:03] <SamuraiAlba> and had to have the bank stop payment >.<
[20:48] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: anyway, I don't know. Bring it to hive? :p
[20:49]  * JonathanD looks up millerivlle
[20:50] <SamuraiAlba> Millville :P
[20:50] <SamuraiAlba> I would need to find a ride.
[20:50] <SamuraiAlba> It's about 30lbs
[20:50] <SamuraiAlba> LOL
[20:50] <JonathanD> eeh thats far
[20:53] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: we'll get it on our way to cape may? :p
[20:53] <JonathanD> lets do a cape may geeknic.
[21:01] <SamuraiAlba> when will that be?
[21:06] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: whenever you plan it for?
[21:06] <JonathanD> jedijf: hey, can us-pa put down the geeknic as thing?
[21:12] <SamuraiAlba> We should get a geeknic going on my property or in cape may :)
[21:12] <sadin> well my parents are kicking me off the internet in 45min because they think i need to get a life which im very angry about considering i dont play games i m actually always doing work
[21:13] <JonathanD> my parents used to do that.
[21:14] <SamuraiAlba> If I get kicked off, I shut off the router and take the power supply
[21:14] <SamuraiAlba> no phones then :)
[21:15] <SamuraiAlba> or a squid proxy time...
[21:15] <SamuraiAlba> Blocked a whole /24 last night
[21:15] <SamuraiAlba> Youtube
[21:18] <sadin> SamuraiAlba no thats what they do to me.
[21:19] <SamuraiAlba> they shut the router off and take the PSU?4
[21:19] <SamuraiAlba> no 4...
[21:23] <SamuraiAlba> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=SC1430-186X2-R&cpc=RESX
[21:23] <SamuraiAlba> specs on the poweredge
[21:23] <sadin> Yes
[21:23] <SamuraiAlba> O_o
[21:24] <JonathanD> SamuraiAlba: I'm all for a cape may thing
[21:24] <JonathanD> not sure where we could hold such a thing.
[21:25] <SamuraiAlba> not sure either
[21:26] <JonathanD> my sister has a condo down there but not enough yard space for.. anything
[21:28] <SamuraiAlba> that's stinky
[21:28] <sadin> i need to come to one of these things...
[21:28] <SamuraiAlba> Aye
[21:29] <SamuraiAlba> I might have a Dell Poweredge 840 Dual core Xeon server for you by then :)
[21:29] <SamuraiAlba> Like I said, I would have to ask the boss.
[21:30] <MutantTurkey> someone randomly depositied several hundred dollars in my account
[21:30] <MutantTurkey> i have no legal implications correct?
[21:30] <MutantTurkey> actually i haven't checked where it's from
[21:30] <SamuraiAlba> check
[21:30] <MutantTurkey> my guess ithat it's the IRS though
[21:31] <SamuraiAlba> double check
[21:31] <JonathanD> I put it there by accident. Please send it back.
[21:31] <JonathanD> :D
[21:31] <JonathanD> Later folks.
[21:32] <SamuraiAlba> late
[21:33] <sadin> i need to come to one of these things...
[21:35] <SamuraiAlba> you do
[21:35] <SamuraiAlba> If at my house (decent yard).  I have about 400 feet of wifi :)
[21:40] <JonathanD> lets do it
[21:45] <SamuraiAlba> I'll have to clean the yard and trim things ;)  It's a bit out since I've been working 2 jobs and doing 18 credit hours LOL
[21:46] <SamuraiAlba> I have some folding tables tho
[21:46] <SamuraiAlba> and I;ll get gas for the grill
[21:46] <SamuraiAlba> and cheddar brats :)
[21:49] <SamuraiAlba> LAN party, too?
[21:50] <SamuraiAlba> Quake?
[21:50] <SamuraiAlba> Kickin it old skewl
[21:51] <MutantTurkey> peace boys
[21:51] <MutantTurkey> and ladies
[22:25] <JonathanD> Quake yard party.