[07:11] <inetpro> hmm...
[07:11] <inetpro> good morning everyone
[07:17] <charlvn> hi inetpro 
[11:38] <Reenen> plop
[11:38] <Reenen> is i7's etc. 64bit or 32bit CPUs?
[11:39] <mazal> 64
[11:39] <mazal> Well the i7 is , I dunnot about the etc. ;p
[11:40] <Reenen> but the ubuntu install is still i386?
[11:40] <mazal> Nope, you get 32bit and 64bit Ubuntu on all flavours
[11:41] <Reenen> it says here http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ PC (Intel x86) desktop CD For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if you are at all unsure. 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture 
[11:41] <Reenen> now currently I have an AMD64
[11:41] <Reenen> but I plan to upgrade in a month or 2
[11:41] <Reenen> and then I intend to go nvidia and intel, as it's better supported by linux
[11:42] <mazal> You can use the amd64bit cd if you have an i7
[11:42] <Reenen> good
[11:42] <Reenen> I have loaded the 64bit iso from usb onto my work pc (just live USB), and it's snappy!
[11:42] <mazal> 12.04 ?
[11:43] <Reenen> booting from USB is quicker than the XP we running with
[11:43] <Reenen> yeah
[11:43] <mazal> Yeah well , Windoooze is a bit slow hehehehehehe
[11:44] <Reenen> and only 12y old
[11:44] <mazal> And that live usb startup is usually a good way too see how it will work with your hardware
[11:44] <mazal> Obviously it will be much faster on HDD and you will then add screen drivers etc.
[11:44] <mazal> But if the live "try ubuntu" works well then the install usually will work well also
[11:45] <Reenen> lol, I was watching star trek not too long ago... they had USB like drives, but it was small little cylinders which is still *way* bigger than usb drives are 
[11:46] <Reenen> anyone run/ran Diablo 3 with 12.04?
[11:48] <mazal> not me
[13:10] <Reenen> which gfx cards gets drivers on linux?
[13:12] <superfly> Reenen: Intel, nVidia, ATI, VIA.... most of them. The question is more which graphics cards have drivers which work and are not a pain to install.
[13:14] <Reenen> i mean company supplied drivers
[13:14] <Reenen> or is that what you mean too
[13:15] <superfly> Sort of.
[13:18] <Reenen> so AMD drivers not too hard to install?
[13:21] <superfly> Reenen: most of them are in the repositories, that's why we have the "Additional Drivers" tool
[13:22] <charlvn> try that as a first option, if that doesn't work, find the exact make and model of your card and hit up google / the wiki
[13:22] <charlvn> the wiki is probably the first place to look but just googling sometimes gets you blog posts with more up to date info
[13:25] <Reenen> kk bye... gtg for now...
[16:39] <queery> Maaz: announce: To those in gauteng, please remember about the Ubuntu hour on saterday
[16:39] <Maaz> queery: Excuse me?
[16:39] <queery> Maaz: Announce: To those in gauteng, please remember about the Ubuntu hour on saterday
[16:39] <Maaz> queery: *blink*
[16:40] <queery> did someone switch off announce on maaz?
[16:40] <queery> or am I doing it wrong?
[16:40] <queery> Maaz: Announce To those in gauteng, please remember about the Ubuntu hour on saterday
[16:40] <Maaz> Announcement from queery! To those in gauteng, please remember about the Ubuntu hour on saterday
[16:40] <queery> ah
[16:53] <charlvn> good evening
[16:56] <charlvn> !help
[16:56] <charlvn> is there any actual documentation for this bot?
[16:57] <Banlam> maaz, help
[16:57] <Maaz> Banlam: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[16:57] <Maaz> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[16:58] <charlvn> Maaz: help me with announcements
[16:58] <Maaz> charlvn: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.
[16:58] <charlvn> Maaz: help me with announce
[16:58] <Maaz> charlvn: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.
[16:58] <Banlam> charlvn, what are you wanting to do?
[16:58] <Tonberry> Maaz, how do you feel?
[16:58] <Maaz> Tonberry: I already know stuff about how
[16:59] <Banlam> lol
[16:59] <Tonberry> lol
[16:59] <charlvn> Maaz: help me with remembering things
[16:59] <Maaz> charlvn: I use the following features for remembering things: factoid, karma, meeting, memo and seen
[16:59] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[16:59] <charlvn> Maaz: how do i use meeting
[16:59] <Maaz> charlvn: Take minutes of an IRC Meeting. You can use it like this:
[16:59] <Maaz>   (start | end) meeting [about <title>]
[16:59] <Maaz>   I am <True Name>
[16:59] <Maaz>   topic <topic>
[16:59] <Maaz>   (agreed | idea | accepted | rejected) <statement>
[16:59] <Maaz>   minutes so far
[16:59] <Maaz>   meeting title is <title>
[16:59] <charlvn> Maaz: how do i use memo
[16:59] <Maaz> charlvn: Keeps messages for people. You can use it like this:
[16:59] <Maaz>   my messages
[16:59] <Maaz>   message <number>
[16:59] <Maaz>   my messages for <person> [on <source>]
[16:59] <Maaz>   (tell|pm|privmsg|msg|ask) <person> [on <source>] <message>
[16:59] <Maaz>   forget my (first|last|<n>th) message for <person> [on <source>]
[17:00] <charlvn> interesting, just causes a flood on the channel, should reply in a privmsg or something
[17:01] <Banlam> if you initiate a chat with Maaz i imagine he'll reply yo you in PM
[17:01] <charlvn> lemme try it then i can troll it without trolling all of you guys :P
[17:02] <Banlam> :P
[17:04] <charlvn> hahaha https://gist.github.com/2829545
[17:05] <Banlam> lulz
[17:05]  * nuvimob facepalms politics in ZA…
[17:06] <charlvn> nuvimob: if you keep doing that you will wear out both your face and your palms
[17:06] <nuvimob> lol
[17:10] <nuvimob> oh my goodness, a word of warning: don't install nod32 for Linux on Ubuntu 12.04
[17:11] <nuvimob> I lost my xsessions for quite a while today
[17:11] <nuvimob> lo magespawn
[17:12] <magespawn> Hi nuvimob
[17:12] <magespawn> Evening all
[17:12] <nuvimob> are you well?
[17:12] <magespawn> Yes I am very, and you?
[17:13] <nuvimob> doing good thanks
[17:13] <magespawn> Thats good then.
[17:14] <charlvn> nuvimob: what is that, some type of antivirus thing?
[17:14] <charlvn> ok so just found the real host maaz is running on - mammon.mene.za.net
[17:15] <charlvn> got it to ping me and then listened for incoming icmp ping requests
[17:15] <nuvimob> I don't get it. don't people understand that by protesting and doing damage for better service delivery, they actually take 100 steps back on improved circumstances!?
[17:15] <nuvimob> charlvn: yeah
[17:15] <nuvimob> I wasn't very fond of the idea of running something on my machine
[17:16] <magespawn> Some ppl feel that this the only way they will get heard, other do not know any better
[17:17] <nuvimob> magespawn: yeah, you're right, unfortunately
[17:20] <charlvn> although i don't blame people for feeling frustrated, there's no point in degrading to primitive savagery
[17:20] <charlvn> but their inability to take proper action is part of why the country is having the problems it is at this stage
[17:22] <magespawn> What would you do if you felt the enitre government was against you? And you 'cannot' vote for  somebody else becuase they are not your party?
[17:23] <charlvn> yeah that is the exact problem
[17:23] <charlvn> this notion of "our/their" party
[17:23] <magespawn> Not to bring politics into the channel. 
[17:23] <magespawn> Exactly.
[17:24] <magespawn> I will never vote for a party that has a 2 thirds majority.
[17:25] <charlvn> same here
[17:25] <charlvn> just to keep balance in the force, i will vote for the opposition
[17:25] <charlvn> even if that is the only reason, that is reason enough
[17:26] <magespawn> Indeed
[18:01] <Kilos> hi superfly are you better?
[18:01] <Kilos> evening all
[18:01] <magespawn> Howdy y'all
[18:02] <Kilos> lo magespawn , all good there
[18:02] <Kilos> ?
[18:03] <magespawn> Yup and you?
[18:03] <Kilos> yes ty
[18:04] <Kilos> hi smile4linux you added a bit to your nick?
[18:04] <Kilos> evening Kirill_Rus 
[18:04] <Kilos> hows the weather in russia
[18:04] <smile4linux> hi :D
[18:04] <smile4linux> Kilos: yes! :)
[18:04] <smile4linux> linux forever ;)
[18:04] <Kilos> ha ha
[18:05] <Kilos> naand inetpro 
[18:05] <smile4linux> :)
[18:05] <Kilos> koud ne
[18:05] <smile4linux> windows, go to hell :p
[18:05] <superfly> Kilos: getting better every day
[18:05] <Kilos> good
[18:05] <Kilos> i dont need more worries
[18:05] <charlvn> hi Kilos 
[18:05] <smile4linux> Kilos: het is warm hier :o
[18:06] <Kilos> hi charlvn 
[18:06] <Kilos> swmile you in holland?
[18:06] <Kilos> eish
[18:06] <Kilos> netherlands
[18:07] <Kilos> in afrikaans we use dit in place of het smile4linux 
[18:07] <Kilos> here het = have
[18:08] <Kilos> lo Banlam bakuman 
[18:08] <Banlam> gd evening
[18:11] <smile4linux> Kilos: sorry :(
[18:11] <smile4linux> => dit is warm hier? :p
[18:11] <Kilos> smile4linux, im helping you not fighting. dont be sorry
[18:11] <smile4linux> ^^
[18:11] <Kilos> how else does one learn
[18:12] <smile4linux> jy is reg :)
[18:12] <Kilos> dit can be used as this or it
[18:17] <Kilos> hiya psydroid 
[18:18] <magespawn> Ubuntu-za your one stop ubuntu and language help channel
[18:18] <Kilos> hehe
[18:23] <Kilos> yo nuvolari hoe gaan dit seun
[18:30] <smile4linux> bye :), Kilos :)
[18:30] <smile4linux> & others :)
[18:30] <Kilos> cheers smile4linux 
[18:30] <Kilos> go well
[18:31] <smile4linux> :p
[18:33] <inetpro> he Kilos
[18:34] <Kilos> he inetpro 
[18:36] <inetpro> charlvn: why you want to analyse Maaz's ping route?
[18:41] <inetpro> hmm... charlvn went sleepin already?
[18:41] <inetpro> Kilos: hoe gaan dit daar?
[18:41] <Kilos> hehe
[18:41] <Kilos> net koud, anders goed dankie en daar?
[18:42] <inetpro> ha, more is nog meer koud sê hulle
[18:42] <Kilos> eish
[18:42] <Kilos> ek dit het nog nie geryp nie
[18:43] <Kilos> en nog nie sneeu op die berge nie
[18:43] <inetpro> ja dit kom nog
[18:43] <inetpro> later
[18:43] <inetpro> nie te haastig wees nie
[18:43] <Kilos> eish ek sukkel met die koue man
[18:44] <Kilos> eks n mens nie n pikkewyn nie
[18:45] <inetpro> lol
[18:46] <charlvn> inetpro: when i did a ping i saw it had a ridiculously ping so i assumed the server stands in the same data centre
[18:46] <charlvn> *ridiculously low
[18:47] <inetpro> charlvn: it is in your data centre?
[18:48] <charlvn> 8 packets transmitted, 8 received, 0% packet loss, time 7011ms
[18:48] <charlvn> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.837/0.980/1.152/0.106 ms
[18:48] <charlvn> same data centre as charlvn.nl as well
[18:48] <inetpro> hmm... interesting
[18:48] <charlvn> (hetzner)
[18:48] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[18:48] <magespawn> You guys should all move down here, still wearing shorts and a T shirt
[18:49] <inetpro> ahh
[18:49] <psydroid> hoi charlvn
[18:49] <charlvn> hey psydroid 
[18:49] <Kilos> yeah magespawn i loved natal
[18:49] <psydroid> hi magespawn
[18:49] <psydroid> hi inetpro
[18:49] <magespawn> Hi psydroid
[18:49] <inetpro> goeienaand psydroid
[18:49] <psydroid> no more internet troubles today?
[18:50] <psydroid> goedenavond
[18:50] <inetpro> psydroid: luckily not
[18:50] <charlvn> hah this is a brilliant troll: http://boards.4chan.org/g/res/25181123#p25181123
[18:50] <psydroid> that's good to hear
[18:51] <psydroid> Kilos, have you been to Natal in Brazil?
[18:51] <psydroid> or is there some other Natal I haven't heard of yet?
[18:51] <magespawn> Yes here in South Africa.
[18:52] <Banlam> KwaZulu
[18:52] <charlvn> psydroid: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/KwaZoeloe-Natal
[18:52] <psydroid> oh, a good friend of mine comes from Natal in Brazil possibly named after its African counterpart
[18:53] <charlvn> ah that's http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natal_(Brazili%C3%AB)
[18:53] <charlvn> didn't even realise there was a place named that in brazil
[18:53] <Kilos> kwazulu natal it is called now psydroid . eastern coast of ZA
[18:54] <Banlam> all the Natal's are named by the Portas
[18:54] <psydroid> Kilos, ah, I see
[18:54] <Banlam> means Birthday or Christmas if I recall correctly
[18:54] <Kilos> lol
[18:54] <charlvn> "Natal (whose name means Nativity or Christmas in Portuguese)"
[18:54] <Banlam> from primary school history
[18:54] <charlvn> from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natal,_Rio_Grande_do_Norte
[18:54] <Banlam> \o/
[18:54] <charlvn> very well done Banlam 
[18:54] <Banlam> :P
[18:54] <Kilos> wasnt natal named port natal by the english
[18:55] <magespawn> Yup good trivia guys
[18:55] <charlvn> " Natal is the Portuguese word for Christmas which gave rise to the European name for the region"
[18:55] <charlvn> from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KwaZulu-Natal
[18:55] <charlvn> exact same portugese name that was given to two places
[18:55] <Banlam> da gama or dias or someone names it when they were sailing around
[18:55] <Banlam> exploring
[18:55] <Banlam> and landed their at christmas
[18:55] <Banlam> there*
[18:55] <Kilos> h ya
[18:55] <charlvn> Banlam: i visited the dias museum in mossel bay various times while growing up
[18:56] <Banlam> heh, been there once i think
[18:56] <Banlam> Gr 7
[18:56] <Kilos> shame me member being kinda rough on them when i was young
[18:56] <Banlam> the whole grade did a week field trip to MosselBay and Oudshoorn
[18:56] <charlvn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossel_Bay#Dias_Museum_complex
[18:57] <Banlam> can't remember much of it
[18:57] <charlvn> also visited the post office tree and maritime museum
[18:57] <Banlam> except they all used triangular sails
[18:57] <charlvn> although frankly the maritime museum isn't much
[18:57] <Banlam> can imagine
[18:58] <Kilos> are there any here?
[18:58] <Banlam> any what here?
[18:58] <Banlam> where*
[18:58] <Kilos> geese here
[18:59] <Kilos> portas yous call them now i see
[18:59] <Banlam> lol
[18:59] <charlvn> ah portugese ?
[18:59] <Banlam> one of my best friends is a Porta
[18:59] <Kilos> you wanna tease him ban?
[18:59] <charlvn> my dad called underarm deodorant "portugese bath" but i don't know where that comes from
[18:59] <Banlam> There's a portugeuse club in Port Elizabeth
[18:59] <Kilos> grr
[18:59] <Banlam> lol
[18:59] <charlvn> afaik there are a lot of portugese people living in mossel bay
[19:00] <charlvn> a friend of mine married a girl from there... very beautiful
[19:00] <Banlam> they're all over
[19:00] <Kilos> ha ha ha some of them were stinkie in the old days before dry cleaning
[19:00] <Banlam> the girl or over there?
[19:00] <charlvn> both, but i was actually referring to the girl
[19:00] <Banlam> :P
[19:00] <charlvn> lucky bastard married her haha
[19:00] <Kilos> lol
[19:00] <charlvn> i told him if he doesn't marry her then i'll do the job for him lol
[19:01] <Kilos> Banlam, you wanna tease him?
[19:01] <charlvn> but i was just kidding, she's not entirely my type
[19:01] <Banlam> kilos, sure why not :P
[19:01] <Kilos> ask him how the porras got here, and he will most likely say by ship
[19:02] <Kilos> you say no first one swam and the rest walked on the oil slick
[19:02] <Kilos> maybe he will take offense
[19:02] <charlvn> oh my faaaa that's hilarious
[19:04] <Kilos> have a good night guys and sleep warm
[19:04] <Kilos> nag almal
[19:04] <charlvn> need to get me one of these: http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1338316890162.jpg
[19:04] <charlvn> the ultimate troll
[19:04] <charlvn> cheers kilos
[19:07] <inetpro> charlvn: heh, that really exist like that?
[19:08] <inetpro> who's Justin Bieber?
[19:13] <magespawn> Hah, you do not know?
[19:15] <charlvn> inetpro: no unfortunately not
[19:16] <charlvn> inetpro: if you don't know justin bieber, that is a good thing
[19:16] <charlvn> keep it like that! :P
[19:16] <inetpro> :-)
[19:19] <magespawn> Lol
[19:46] <magespawn> I am off, night alll
[19:46] <charlvn> night magespawn 
[19:54] <charlvn> wb zeref 
[19:57] <zeref> hi charlvn