[00:00] <undecim> TheKaddy: Did the server output any text?
[00:00] <skel> TheKaddy: can you use paste.ubuntu.com and show us your script?
[00:01] <undecim> TheKaddy: Or do you see the prompt, followed by an empty line?
[00:01] <test___> hi
[00:02] <test___> how can i close irssi when i am in?
[00:02] <IdleOne> test___: in what?
[00:02] <test___> in the program... i obviously cant type exit...
[00:02] <zykotick9> test___: /exit
[00:03] <IdleOne> that did it
[00:04] <lucas_> hi
[00:04] <lucas_> anybody there?
[00:04] <IdleOne> yes
[00:04] <pepee> hi lucas_
[00:05] <swooshonln> It has been a long time IRC
[00:05] <lucas_> where r u?
[00:05] <IdleOne> !ot | lucas_
[00:05] <lucas_> sorry
[00:06] <swooshonln> What should I do with my new install? I just got it up and working and need something fun
[00:06] <CuteKitty> when i ran the integrity check, the live USB  found errors in 4 lines. what should i do?
[00:06] <IdleOne> swooshonln: do you have a support question?
[00:07] <swooshonln> does it have to be ubuntu related or general? I have an apache question
[00:07] <IdleOne> swooshonln: ubuntu related only please, you can try #apache for apache questions
[00:07] <CuteKitty> i checked the md5sum and it matches
[00:07] <pepee> swooshonln, install games :)
[00:08] <swooshonln> ok. Actually I do have a ubuntu question. How can move that fancy icon bar off the screen and create an old school tool bar?
[00:08] <digitalj> LOL
[00:08] <IdleOne> !notunity
[00:08] <swooshonln> with all the old widgets on it?
[00:08] <digitalj> swooshonln: use Kubuntu :)
[00:09] <swooshonln> digitalj: is that the only way?
[00:10] <pepee> nah, use lubuntu
[00:10] <digitalj> swooshonln, no, i'm just hinting at the fact I like KDE 4 better than Gnome 3 and unity
[00:10] <pepee> or simply install it: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop :P
[00:11] <pepee> swooshonln, there always are more than one solution in linux
[00:11] <Fyodorovna> digitalj, the bot message is for you as well.
[00:11] <pepee> the thing is, you need to find them :/
[00:11] <swooshonln> digitalj: I am on board with you, I do not like it either
[00:11] <Harris> what is the hp channel
[00:11] <Fyodorovna> digitalj, soory I make a mostake, lol
[00:11] <swooshonln> pepee: yes there is more then one way to do many things
[00:11] <digitalj> Fyodorovna, note "which is similar to GNOME 2"
[00:11] <swooshonln> than*
[00:12] <Fyodorovna> swooshonln, the bot message is for you as well.
[00:12] <digitalj> Things tend to break from my experience
[00:12] <Harris> what is the hp channel
[00:12] <digitalj> This I run Ubuntu 10.04 for Gnome 2
[00:12] <digitalj> Thus*
[00:12] <digitalj> and Gentoo for KDE 4
[00:12] <pepee> Harris, you mean, HP support?
[00:12] <bazhang> !alis | Harris have a search
[00:12] <Fyodorovna> digitalj, the classic would be the closest, but it is a matter of personal preference. :)
[00:13] <swooshonln> Fyodorovna, exploring now thanks :)
[00:13] <Harris> yes pepee
[00:13] <Harris> what is the channel number
[00:13] <pepee> I don't think there is a support channel in IRC...
[00:13] <TheKaddy> undecim: its an empty line, if i hit enter i get a prompt
[00:14] <swooshonln> ok guys, what is the deal with using the software center vs. apt-get? will they both net the same result? should I not use one or the other?
[00:14] <worrow> Hoping someone is around to assist me with some things ubuntu 12.04
[00:14] <D[4]ni> swooshonln: use whatever you are more comfortable with.
[00:14] <worrow> Is there a way to completely disable grub?
[00:15] <Fyodorovna> swooshonln, same data base I prefer apt, or synaptic personally.
[00:15] <OerHeks> swooshonln, i prefer synaptic, more detailed softwarecentre
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> swooshonln: they are both an interface to the same packages, one is just prettier, apt-get is faster if you know the package name you want
[00:15] <dj_segfault> swooshonln: "Software center" only shows a subset of the more popular packages.  apt-get can install anything.  Use Synaptic for a full-featured graphical package manager
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> worrow: you need grub to boot the OS
[00:15] <D[4]ni> for me it's like aptitude > synaptic > softwarecenter
[00:15] <worrow> even if I am not dual booting?
[00:15] <swooshonln> you guys rock, thanks
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> for me, apt-fast is greater than them all :)
[00:16] <Fyodorovna> worrow, you having problems with grub, what's up?
[00:16] <D[4]ni> i just use synaptic when i'm lazy, software center almost never
[00:16] <zykotick9> aptitude ftw
[00:16] <Fyodorovna> +1 apt-fast
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> worrow: yes, the grub boots the kernel and starts the bootup
[00:16] <worrow> I have mac system and have ubuntu installed into the windows partition by itself, but when I select the ubuntu partition, it loads the grub then i have to select the menu item. I want to click my os then have no grub delay and it just boot
[00:17] <worrow> is there a different grub I can install that will work faster?
[00:17] <D[4]ni> worrow: you can decrease the delay.
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> worrow: so you used wubi?
[00:17] <pepee> worrow, you can set the timeout to 0
[00:18] <worrow> I have my delay set to 0.
[00:18] <manny550> hey I need some help with my Java ODK Runtime 7
[00:18] <worrow> it still shows the screen briefly before booting
[00:18] <worrow> ActionParsnip, not familiar with wubi
[00:18] <D[4]ni> it has to. do you want to not be able to get into the recovery mode?
[00:19] <worrow> I am not concerned with recovery
[00:19] <manny550> every time I try to install it it says that it failed because the Java ODK Runtime 7 is not installed I un-installed it and reinstalled it but it still does the same thing and ubuntu won't update properly because of it either
[00:19] <worrow> if it faults, I'll reinstall. This is my hidden OS
[00:20] <pepee> worrow, what if you set it to -1?
[00:20] <worrow> what will it do at a negative number though?
[00:21] <Fyodorovna> worrow, did you install ubuntu from windows?
[00:21] <designbybeck_> Any gamers? Did you see Overgrowth got their Linux release!?
[00:21] <pepee> worrow, ahh no, that disables the timeout
[00:21] <designbybeck_> Alpha of the Alpha!
[00:22] <worrow> no I have mac OSX. I created a windows partition that was empty and then formatted it for installation of my ubuntu
[00:22] <designbybeck_> But that is exciting!
[00:22] <worrow> Now I boot holding option and see mac on the left and windows which is really ubuntu
[00:22] <worrow> when clicking windows i get grub and then delay
[00:23] <worrow> pepee, so setting to -1 as you asked is a bad idea?
[00:23] <manny550> designbybeck_ I have not heard of that game, what kind of game is it?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck_: is it like Black & White?
[00:24] <carbon60> Anyone know of a simple system to sync users and groups across multiple systems? I want to use this in the context of three sysadms managing a dozen boxes. I don't want a directory-based system that will break.
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> carbon60: rsync
[00:24] <carbon60> Just want to be able to run something have all the right users and perms sync.
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> carbon60: or look into Groupwise
[00:24] <carbon60> ActionParsnip: Really? you just sync the files?
[00:24] <designbybeck_> here you go ActionParsnip and manny550 http://www.wolfire.com/overgrowth
[00:24] <pepee> worrow, yeah, but I'm not sure
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck_: yes I saw but the site isn't very rich
[00:24] <designbybeck_> an indie group
[00:24] <worrow> I'll look into it, otherwise no ideaS?
[00:25] <worrow> now what a bout a temperature sensing program that also lets me control my fans?
[00:26] <pepee> worrow, you can install a different boot loader
[00:26] <manny550> designbybeck_ There isn't much info on it other than the slide so I'm not sure if it would be an RPG or what but a video of game play would be nice
[00:26] <pepee> s/install/try/
[00:27] <worrow> is there a better boot loader currently than grub 2?
[00:27] <designbybeck_> they also release the Humble Bundle packs... which Linux Users spend more on than Windows or Mac users!
[00:27] <designbybeck_> ...And who says Open Source Users don't want to spend money!!!
[00:27] <reisio> worrow: nope
[00:27] <designbybeck_> watch the videos manny550
[00:27] <worrow> crap
[00:28] <worrow> fan control programs?
[00:28] <pepee> worrow, apt-cache search fan control show a bunch
[00:28] <heer> nanny
[00:28] <pepee> but that would depend on your machine specs
[00:28] <reisio> worrow: what about them?
[00:29] <manny550> I can't designbybeck_ my Java Runtime 7 is acting up and my flash player doesn't work on most videos it only works with like a very rare amount of them
[00:29] <worrow> I was wondering if there is a good one somewhere
[00:29] <manny550> My ubuntu won't even update correctly because of the Java Runtime 7 problem
[00:29] <designbybeck_> ah dang
[00:29] <designbybeck_> sorry
[00:29] <tr3nton> manny550: youtube.com/html5 ?
[00:30] <heer> manny what is wrong?
[00:30] <heer> 550
[00:30] <pepee> manny550, remove java 7, reinstall flash
[00:30] <heer> downgrade manny
[00:31] <manny550> heer every time I try to install Java Runtime 7 right towards the end it says that it failed because Java ODK Runtime 7 is not installed correctly I've un-installed it and reinstalled it and that didn't work either
[00:31] <pepee> adobe-flashplugin from the pratner repos works fine
[00:31] <manny550> downgrade to 11.10?
[00:31] <andygraybeal> any reason why 'startup disk creator' won't work with a dvd?
[00:31] <designbybeck_> not that kinda downgrade manny550 ;)
[00:31] <jst> jst
[00:31] <heer> try a different java version
[00:32] <andygraybeal> i apoogize if you already answered, i lost it
[00:32] <pepee> manny550, purge all the files
[00:32] <jst> hello
[00:32] <jst> anyone good with cups in ubuntu?
[00:32] <heer> manny I had the same problem
[00:32] <worrow> reisio,  do you know of a good fan control prog. and temperature monitoring program?
[00:32] <heer> cupsz??
[00:32] <jst> yes the print server
[00:32] <manny550> Thanks guys, and yea I think I'll try Java Runtime 6 instead then
[00:33] <heer> manny 550
[00:33] <manny550> yes heer
[00:33] <heer> try 5.50
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck_: looks cool, very fluid
[00:33] <andygraybeal> brb, i'mma try something
[00:33] <manny550> lol is that a joke or is that a real version?
[00:33] <heer> Andy
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> manny550: there is a PPA for oracle java 1.7
[00:34] <jst> so is anyone good with cups?
[00:34] <heer> action tell
[00:34] <DrManhattan> I can empty them
[00:34] <heer> drink and empty
[00:34] <designbybeck_> yeah ActionParsnip they've got some great physics with their home grown engine and everything
[00:34] <worrow> anyone know a good temperature monitoring program for 12.04?
[00:34] <DrManhattan> lm_sensors
[00:35] <designbybeck_> along with using Blender for animations and such
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> heer: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> !sensors | worrow
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck_: the inline level edit is preety sweet
[00:35] <designbybeck_> oh yes ActionParsnip it is all base built on that for adding things and quick building
[00:35] <worrow> ubottu, ActionParsnip  thank you
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck_: will see if my system will run it, i only have ppor systems
[00:39] <RumRum> Im having troubles connecting to VPN, or well it connects. But the IP stays the same as my standard. OS: Ubuntu 11.04 Log: http://snipurl.com/23pi1yg Settings: http://upit.cc/i/3b936574.png Googled around a bit but nothing seemed to be working.
[00:40] <designbybeck_> Help spread the word to the Linux Community!!! More people are starting to make Native Games for Linux... we need to show support by buying them!!!
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck_: indeed. I bought LinuxTycoon a while back. Good fun
[00:42] <designbybeck_> I bought OilRush
[00:42] <designbybeck_> Check out their stats on Overgrowths sites about the Linux users and the Humble Bundle packs
[00:44] <worrow> so now I have the sensors displaying. what would be a program to get to change the temperature at which the fans kick on/
[00:44] <zruty> How can I force update of certain packages?
[00:46] <worrow> what program do I have to use now seems startup manager has been removed from 12.04?
[00:46] <reisio> for what
[00:47] <worrow> to remove items that start with os
[00:47] <worrow> IE bluetooth in menubar.
[00:48] <manny550> ok so I tried removing Adobe Flash Player to start from scratch but I got "Oracle JDK 7 is NOT installed.
[00:48] <manny550> dpkg: error processing oracle-java7-installer (--configure):
[00:48] <manny550>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[00:49] <Blackshirt> Good morning everybody
[00:49] <manny550> Good evening
[00:50] <varrtto> Hi, I have a resolution problem with Ubuntu, an Nvidia 520GT video card and a samsung monitor, may anyone help me?
[00:50] <pepee> manny550, that's because the install didn't finish
[00:50] <varrtto> fonts look kind of blurry
[00:51] <manny550> pepee but nothing is active right now what do I do?
[00:51] <Blackshirt> Manny550, from where you get oracle jdk installer?
[00:51] <pepee> manny550, sudo apt-get -f install
[00:51] <manny550> I got it from software center and I'll try -f install
[00:52] <Blackshirt> That's great steps
[00:53] <varrtto> I can only pick 1360x768 resolution
[00:53] <manny550> Blackshirt more specifically it was Java Runtime 7 JDK I believe in the software center
[00:53] <manny550> pepee I got this "Oracle JDK 7 is NOT installed.
[00:53] <manny550> dpkg: error processing oracle-java7-installer (--configure):
[00:53] <manny550>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[00:53] <manny550> No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[00:53] <manny550>          Errors were encountered while processing:
[00:53] <manny550>  oracle-java7-installer
[00:53] <FloodBot1> manny550: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:53] <varrtto> but i think the monitor only supports 1368x768
[00:54] <pepee> hmm I never remember how to fix things.
[00:54] <pepee> varrtto, did you install the nvidia driver?
[00:54] <DrManhattan> is there a mythubuntu channel anywhere
[00:55] <varrtto> yes, i try both current and recommended drivers
[00:55] <manny550> sorry about the flood thing my client auto enter separate lines
[00:55] <pepee> varrtto, looks like it is not working to me
[00:55] <Blackshirt> Manny550,/can you do it in terminal?
[00:55] <pepee> varrtto, rebboted your machine after installing it?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: try #mythbuntu
[00:55] <varrtto> yes
[00:55] <DrManhattan> ActionParsnip, thanks it forwards to the right channel
[00:55] <manny550> Blackshirt you mean reinstall it?
[00:56] <varrtto> I've been having this problem for a few days
[00:56] <Blackshirt> i prefer cli based apt for package management
[00:57] <pepee> varrtto, run this: lsmod | grep nvidia
[00:57] <pepee> varrtto, also, try installing it from the website, if there is one
[00:58] <manny550> Blackshirt I get the "Oracle JDK 7 is NOT installed" prompt every time I try to update ubuntu or install or un install almost anything so far
[00:58] <varrtto> nvidia              12319264  40
[00:58] <NFisher> Hi all! i have a folder full of pictures and want to see all the resolutions of the picture at once.. how can i do that?!
[00:58] <pepee> varrtto, remove the one you isntalled, first
[00:59] <Blackshirt> Manny550, try remove that packages from partial dir, and then try to install again
[01:00] <manny550> Blackshirt partial directory? is this through the terminal or am I physically removing the packages?
[01:00] <pepee> manny550, sudo dpkg -P package_name ?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> install imagemagick
[01:01] <Blackshirt> Manny550, Look at /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/, is there that packages?
[01:01] <chymist_chris> does anyone know the correct flags for using avconv (ffmpegs replacement) to extract audio from a video file?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> NFisher: install imagemagick then run:  ls | identify
[01:02] <manny550> pepee I don't know the exact name of the package the only thing I know is the prompt I get, and Blackshirt I'm going to check now
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> NFisher: sorry:   identify `ls`
[01:03] <highway900> Hi All
[01:03] <manny550> Blackshirt there is nothing here
[01:04] <NFisher> ActionParsnip, that quite does ist, thx!
[01:04] <NFisher> it*
[01:04] <Blackshirt> Manny550, have you update first your apt database before install?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> NFisher: imagemagick is the nuts :)
[01:05] <pepee> manny550, I got "oracle-jdk7-installer"
[01:05] <highway900> Is anybody seeing lag when maximizing a window  in 12.04?
[01:05] <CuteKitty> what's the  terminal command to list all files and directories and subdirectorses and subfiles?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> NFisher: or you can use find with exec and make it a bit smarter
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> CuteKitty: find /path/to/folder
[01:05] <reisio> CuteKitty: couple 'tree' scripts in the repos, too
[01:06] <manny550> Blackshirt yea I did, pepe thanks I'll give that a shot I think it's the same thing
[01:06] <CuteKitty> thakns.
[01:07] <manny550> pepee that didn't work unfortunately :(
[01:07] <SwooshOnLn> Ok guys, I switched to the "Gnome Classic" look to get the old style toolbars. Now, I can not seem to figure out how to add/remove new items and widgets as you would before. I cannot right click on any part of the tool bar to add/remove any items. Any ideas?
[01:07] <pepee> manny550, sudo apt-get install --reinstall package_name
[01:08] <pepee> manny550, you have to use the same package name, obviously
[01:08] <manny550> pepee thanks let me see what happens
[01:08] <Blackshirt> Manny550, try to use aptitude, this tool have good conflict resolver
[01:09] <manny550> Blackshirt ok I'll give it a shot I'm going to try the reinstall first see how that goes
[01:09] <somethinginteres> Disk analyser is warning me that I have only 520kb free on my /home. Last night it warned me that I had 300MB. I moved 30GB+ of stuff elsewhere. How can it still be so full if not more full. Everything's crashing on me.
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> SwooshOnLn: ctrl+shift+ right click
[01:10] <pepee> somethinginteres, run this command: df -h
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> somethinginteres: clear your browser cache
[01:10] <SwooshOnLn> ActionParsnip, that doesn't do anything for me?
[01:10] <manny550> pepee I got the same Oracle JDK 7 is NOT installed prompt again I'm going to try aptitude as Blackshirt suggested
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> SwooshOnLn: its some key holding afaik, try different combos of ALT, SHIFT and CTRL
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> SwooshOnLn: could just install XFCE, bit easier
[01:11] <manny550> Blackshirt I never heard of aptitude until now so I don't know how to use it
[01:11] <somethinginteres> pepee: df -h reports only 4kb free! but gparted says I have 43GB free. Which would be more correct since moving 30GB+ to another drive?
[01:12] <SwooshOnLn> ActionParsnip, XFCE is a window manager right?
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> SwooshOnLn: no, its a DE, it uses xfwm4 as the WM, but you can switch it for compiz if you want
[01:13] <somethinginteres> pepee, ActionParsnip: Clearerd browser cache. Now saying 230MB free however, still gparted reports 40GB+ free
[01:13] <pepee> somethinginteres, df should be correct. anyway, checked your file system?
[01:13] <CuteKitty>  for the USB stick containing  linux live , must it be FAT?
[01:13] <pepee> somethinginteres, not sure about gparted anyway
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> somethinginteres: are you using df -h to see the free space?
[01:14] <Blackshirt> Manny550, just run it on terminal, and learn the interface...
[01:14] <somethinginteres> ActionParsnip: yep.
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> somethinginteres: is /home on the same partition as the rest of the OS?
[01:15] <jiohdi> I am using xfce4 and thunar file manager shows only a few icons... none for folders, but occasional files... how to fix?
[01:15] <somethinginteres> ActionParsnip: no. Separate partition
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> jiohdi: tried a different icon theme?
[01:15] <Blackshirt> Manny550, press g to apply pending actions, ! For apply
[01:16] <pepee> somethinginteres, sudo apt-get clean
[01:16] <jiohdi> ActionParsnip, not sure where to change that in xfce
[01:16] <manny550> Blackshirt thanks
[01:16] <jiohdi> ActionParsnip, never mind, found it, thx
[01:16] <somethinginteres> pepee: that command gave me output.
[01:17] <pepee> somethinginteres, df -h again
[01:17] <SwooshOnLn> ActionParsnip, what is the proper way to install it? I use to use linux long ago and I am trying to remember what this one window manager was called. I wana say it sound like xfce or something like that. It was a build from scratch window manager. kinda neat
[01:17] <somethinginteres> pepee: "239MB free
[01:17] <Blackshirt> Manny550, commonly press g would try to solve the problem..but you can look the messages at the bottom interfaces
[01:18] <pepee> somethinginteres, can you paste the output of 'df -h' to pastebin?
[01:18] <manny550> yea it says that it's partially installed I think it's messing everything else up I think I'm going to try to remove it
[01:19] <somethinginteres> pepee: sure. One second.
[01:19] <pepee> btw, you can copy by selecting the text, and paste it by clicking the middle button of the mouse
[01:20] <somethinginteres> pepee: http://pastebin.com/SZdyaBeQ
[01:21] <somethinginteres> pepee: good tip :)
[01:22] <manny550> Blackshirt I've tried removing it but it won't go away
[01:22] <pepee> somethinginteres, you got lots of free space
[01:23] <pepee> somethinginteres, 1.7G in /home
[01:23] <pepee> somethinginteres, 14G  in /
[01:23] <Blackshirt> Manny550, what step are you doing?
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> somethinginteres: you could install pastebinit and run:  df -h | pastebinit    and it will make the URL in the terminal :)
[01:24] <somethinginteres> pepee: 1.7GB free now I see. Thank goodness because yeah before it was like 1MB. Probably after clearing cache but still that's way less than it should be I think. I deleted tons from /Downloads moved a ton of files. Seems like something's up if I am not mistaken?
[01:25] <somethinginteres> ActionParsnip: thanks for the tip. :)
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> somethinginteres: pastebinit is a great tool
[01:25] <richardlxc> can we Recover overwritten data?
[01:25] <somethinginteres> pepee: now it says 5.8GB free lol
[01:25] <manny550> Blackshirt I pressed g and it showed the oracle-java7-installer as partially installed so I asked it to remove it and when it went through the process of removal it prompted me again that Oracle JDK 7 is NOT installed dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess installed post-installation script return exit status 1
[01:25] <somethinginteres> ActionParsnip: does it support account login?
[01:25] <richardlxc> can we Recover overwritten data?
[01:26] <reisio> richardlxc: nope
[01:26] <richardlxc> overwritten!!
[01:26] <reisio> richardlxc: nope
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> somethinginteres: afaik, no but it's not really important is it?
[01:26] <richardlxc> not?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> somethinginteres: there may be options for pastebinit
[01:26] <reisio> richardlxc: no
[01:26] <pepee> somethinginteres, check this: http://www.shell-fu.org/lister.php?id=275
[01:26] <manny550> Blackshirt then I press return to continue and when I press g oracle-java7-installer is still there as a package to be removed basically not going away
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> somethinginteres: I have a script that is similar to pastebinit but for images to imgur :)
[01:27] <pepee> somethinginteres, replace   ./*   with   /home/*
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> somethinginteres: pastebinit -a username text     the default username will be $USER
[01:27] <somethinginteres> pepee: handy. Let me give it a whirl
[01:27] <somethinginteres> ActionParsnip: ah, good stuff.
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> somethinginteres: yes there is a username / password option on pastebinit too :)
[01:28] <Blackshirt> Remove oracle-java7-installer from /var/cache/apt/archives/ directory, and then try to reinstall
[01:28] <pepee> somethinginteres, obviously, it will take some time to finish
[01:28] <luiz> ola amigos
[01:28] <pepee> hola luiz
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> somethinginteres: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012415/    I call it 'imgur_upload' and it makes a URL from an image
[01:28] <pepee> !es | luiz
[01:29] <pepee> Blackshirt, I don't think you need to do that
[01:29] <manny550> Blackshirt I'll give it a try
[01:29] <pepee> Blackshirt, most of the time, dpkg and apt-get will fix themselves
[01:29] <luiz> cara eu to tentado instalar um antivirus no meu ubuntu e nao consigo pode me ajudar
[01:29] <pepee> !br | luiz
[01:29] <somethinginteres> ActionParsnip: awesome. I'll steal that if you don't mind :P
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> somethinginteres: go ahead :)
[01:30] <pepee> luiz, you don't need an antivirus
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> somethinginteres: mark the file executable and drop it in /usr/bin and you are ready to rock
[01:30] <luiz> #ubuntu-br
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> pepee: depends on the system use :)
[01:31] <pepee> ActionParsnip, or create a new dir and add it to $PATH
[01:31] <luiz> nao entendi
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> pepee: that's good too
[01:31] <Blackshirt> Pepee, maybe sometime you need them
[01:31] <pepee> luiz, escribe:  /join #ubuntu-br
[01:31] <luiz> eo o avira alguen ja instalo
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> !av | luiz
[01:32] <devkorcvince> luiz: #ubuntu-es
[01:32] <pepee> he is brazilian/portuguese
[01:32] <luiz> nao tem versao para linux
[01:32] <bazhang> luiz, english here ONLY
[01:32] <pepee> !br | luiz
[01:32] <luiz> sim pq
[01:33] <reisio> aeoeuoouae
[01:33] <devkorcvince> luiz: #ubuntu-br
[01:33] <pepee> reisio, lol
[01:33]  * reisio headdesks
[01:33] <somethinginteres> ActionParsnip: awesome. cheers.
[01:33] <somethinginteres> pepee: well, thanks for the help mate.
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> somethinginteres: another thing that should be default installed...
[01:33] <luiz> como almentar meu repositorio
[01:33] <pepee> somethinginteres, youare welcome
[01:33] <devkorcvince> dili ko kasabot
[01:34] <smw> Hi all. My dad is using natty. He did a kernel update and then X failed to load. Does anyone know how to find out what caused it?
[01:34] <smw> Would reinstalling the new kernel help?
[01:34] <smw> We know the kernel update was the problem because loading from old kernels works
[01:34] <luiz> o que marix e viado
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> smw: does he use proprietary video drivers?
[01:35] <luiz> descupa gay
[01:35] <hellhammer> I'm running ubuntu 10.04 and I can't get flash games to load in firefox or chrome I am running up to date flash whats going on and how do i fix this?
[01:35] <smw> ActionParsnip, no
[01:35] <pepee> thanks bazhang
[01:35] <smw> ActionParsnip, not from what I can see. jockey-text gives no output
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[01:35] <pepee> hellhammer, you need to reinstall flash
[01:35] <smw> ActionParsnip, if you have a better method to check, let me know
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> smw: hold shift at boot and select the older kernel. It will give you a desktop
[01:36] <smw> ActionParsnip, yes, we know that :-)
[01:36] <smw> ActionParsnip, that is how I know it is a kernel problem
[01:36] <smw> whatever, he just decided to upgrade to 12.04
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> smw: what video chip do you use?
[01:37] <smw> ActionParsnip, 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)
[01:38] <smw> ActionParsnip, not sure how long my Dad's computer will be up though. I am sshed in doing phone support and dad just told me he is just going to reinstall... :-)
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> smw: uninstall the proprietary driver, then reinstall it. You can uninstall the nvidia-current package and it should do it
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> smw: probably good idea, clean LTS installs kick ass
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> smw: remember to run a full backup :)
[01:38] <manny550> Blackshirt it won't let me remove the directory even as the root user
[01:39] <smw> ActionParsnip, I think he is just blasting everything on the root and keeping his home dir
[01:40] <toph> I messed up on my home folder encryption on the first boot. How do I make it prompt for that again.
[01:40] <hellhammer> actionparsnip this is the output of lsp_release http://pastebin.com/HJEaVZ8H
[01:40] <hellhammer> actionparsnip there wasnt a output for the egrep one
[01:41] <smw> ActionParsnip, my dad is not complete computer incompetent ;-)
[01:42] <zykotick9> hellhammer: you might want to try "lsb_release -a" and "uname -a" again, that pastebin only have the "dpkg -l" output
[01:42] <pepee> hellhammer, remove swfdec-gnome
[01:42] <smw> ActionParsnip, but I still get calls for over the phone tech support when he wants to compile the latest rtorrent on 10.04 and needs help finding dependencies :-P
[01:42] <toph> Anyone know the command to get the home folder encryption prompt again. Or where those notification are stored in Kubuntu?
[01:44] <pepee> smw, use utorrent 2.2.1 ;)
[01:44] <smw> pepee, um... can you remotely connect to utorrent?
[01:44] <smw> pepee, rtorrent is better :-P
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: if you run the command as given, it will enable you to make ONE pastebin
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: thats WHY I give it like that
[01:45] <pepee> smw, there is utorrent server for linux, with a nice web interface
[01:45] <smw> pepee, I have proved that no matter how computer literate your parents are, they will call for tech support ;-)
[01:45] <pepee> smw, my mother won't :P
[01:45] <Kolan> Do anyone know if Ubuntu works on Alienware?
[01:45] <smw> pepee, why?
[01:45] <pepee> she doesn't even know about support, so...
[01:45] <hellhammer> ok
[01:45] <smw> pepee, huh?
[01:46] <Frank100> hey what this mean?  Xorg[6489]: segfault at 67 ip 00007f9f2b5a86a9 sp 00007fff2efe7c70 error 4 in nvidia_drv.so[7f9f2b547000+6e0000] could this be the cause i het kicked back to login screen??
[01:46] <undecim> How can I add items to "Move To" and "Copy To" in nautilus? (12.04  desktop amd64)
[01:46] <hellhammer> actionparsnip what command exactly should i run?
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> smw: transmission has a web ui
[01:47] <pepee> smw, heh, I'm the tech support by myself
[01:47] <Frank100> i installed gnome-sessios-fallback and now mate and i log out automatically, could that error be the cause??
[01:47] <pepee> hellhammer: dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: all one command, don't cut it up
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: if you copy and paste, you'll win
[01:48] <smw> ActionParsnip, yep, most of them do at this point
[01:49] <smw> ActionParsnip, but I like the rtorrent interface better...
[01:49] <hellhammer> actionparsnip this is the output
[01:49] <hellhammer> http://pastebin.com/w7HtDSab
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> smw: very handy. I use torrentfu on my android phone to add/remove torrents to the server. Dead handy
[01:49] <smw> ActionParsnip, yep, I have done that with rutorrent
[01:49] <smw> ActionParsnip, but I mostly use sabnzbd and use rtorrent for mostly legal stuff :-P
[01:49] <Shartsalot> is there a good noob chan?
[01:50] <smw> Shartsalot, you are in it
[01:50] <smw> ActionParsnip, my nzb foo is very good. Can't say the same about torrents ;-)
[01:50] <Shartsalot> i ditched windows for ubuntu and all has been great until i upgraded to 3.4 kernel and then i couldnt install nvidia driver
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Shartsalot: then its a 3rd party kernel and not supported here
[01:51] <pepee> smw, rtorrent is in the repos
[01:51] <Fezzler> Unity is too much for my old Ubuntu PC (AMD K6-266).  I need to go to something like Lubuntu.  Do I need to remove Ubuntu first?
[01:51] <pepee> Fezzler, nope
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Fezzler: not really, you just choose the session at login
[01:51] <pepee> Fezzler, install lubuntu-desktop
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: sec, my phone is being slow
[01:52] <Fezzler> so..sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop...that's it?
[01:52] <smw> pepee, his htpc is old. It runs on ubuntu 10.04
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: do you want to use opensource flash?
[01:52] <smw> pepee, rtorrent on 10.04 did not have magnet link support
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Fezzler: a terminal command
[01:52] <hellhammer> i dont know
[01:53] <hellhammer> this is a recent problem
[01:53] <Fezzler> ActionParsnip> Yes.
[01:53] <pepee> smw, ahh
[01:53] <Shartsalot> does anyone know of a benchmark tool i can run in ubuntu like hdtune on windows? I am running a sata 3 ssd and i want to be sure i am getting proper speed. any ideas how?
[01:53] <Fezzler> So once installed, will Lubuntu assume my logins and users and file/directory structure, etc.?
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: ok, run:  sudo apt-get --purge remove gnash gnash-common; sudo dpkg -P libswfdec-0.8-0 swfdec-gnome
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: you will then have no flash
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: you can then enable the partner repo if needed and install adobe-flashplugin   should give 64bit flash for your 64bit OS.
[01:55] <toph> anyone know how to make kubuntu 12.04 ask to encrypt the home folder again?
[01:55] <Fezzler> So will Lubuntu perform well on a K6-266?
[01:55] <pepee> Fezzler, apt-get will install those files, then you chave to choose lxde at login
[01:55] <pepee> Fezzler, not sure
[01:55] <Fezzler> pepee> Why?  Why do I want to choose lxde at login?
[01:55] <hellhammer> ok actionparsnip how do i do that?
[01:56] <pepee> Fezzler, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System_Requirements
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: you can manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list or you can use synaptic
[01:57] <Phiscribe> fezzler lxde is the lubuntu environment, if your using lubuntu, it should run on a k6 ok, espeicialy when compared ot others
[01:58] <Frank100> help me please, my session crash and i get back to login screen, it happened on gnome-session-fallback and now on mate :( could this error be the reason?  Xorg[6489]: segfault at 67 ip 00007f9f2b5a86a9 sp 00007fff2efe7c70 error 4 in nvidia_drv.so[7f9f2b547000+6e0000]
[01:58] <pepee> Frank100, yeah, surely
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> Frank100: what if you use Unity2D etc?
[01:59] <Frank100> i dont know with unity... i dont like it :\
[01:59] <Frank100> pepee what should i do??
[02:00] <pepee> Phiscribe, how does ubuntu select an i386 kernel?
[02:00] <pepee> Frank100, sorry, I'm not sure :(
[02:01] <pepee> Frank100, is gnome working fine in that machine?
[02:01] <imbezol> since upgrading to 12.04, if i alt tab a few times my x locks up where i can't interact with anything or type. i can still move the mouse around though. ideas?
[02:01] <Frank100> everything look ok
[02:02] <naryfa> hi all
[02:02] <Frank100> i'll ask on forums after i'll use unity for a bit, thanks anyway
[02:03] <pepee> Frank100, then lxde should work. by installing that package, you will have the option to select between gnome desktop and lxde
[02:03] <pepee> :/
[02:03] <Shartsalot> this is gonna sound super noob but how do i see how much free space on my os hd?
[02:03] <xclusive585> in a terminal df -a
[02:03] <xclusive585> (shartsalot)
[02:04] <Shartsalot> what does df stand for?
[02:04] <pepee> df -h is better :P
[02:04] <naryfa> or du
[02:04] <pepee> df - report file system disk space usage
[02:04] <xclusive585> ok ok listen to the geeks :-)
[02:04] <Shartsalot> what does -a do vs -h
[02:04] <Phiscribe> they say it is an x86 kernel, so should work
[02:04] <pepee> IIRC -h is for "human readadble"
[02:05] <xclusive585> if you type "man df" it will tell you
[02:07] <jane_wayne78> when i type in gvncviewer localhost:0, i get "Cannot open display", how do i fix this?
[02:07] <xclusive585> pepe: I always used -a, lol I dont need it to be "human readable" I know what bytes are. But i tried -h and it looks nicer. you are correct
[02:07] <jane_wayne78> i've installed the 12.04 server edition of ubuntu
[02:08] <jane_wayne78> (not the desktop version) so i probably don't have the GUI dependencies ?
[02:08] <pepee> xclusive585, too much numbers confuse me lol
[02:09] <Shartsalot> omg is it possible that the ubuntu install is only taking up 5gb?
[02:09] <Shartsalot> the windows install was taking up like 70gb
[02:10] <xclusive585> oh yeah 5 GB is alot even
[02:10] <xclusive585> go headless and youll most likely be under 1GB
[02:10] <xclusive585> :-)
[02:10] <Shartsalot> says used 5.2G avail 67G
[02:10] <pepee> mine uses 20G, with lots of games
[02:11] <Shartsalot> im really loving ubuntu :)
[02:11] <Shartsalot> i only have one issue with it  but its minor
[02:11] <obyrith> Hello, I have a Logitech M705 mouse and I noticed sometimes it just doesn't work. It seems like unplugging and plugging back in the Unifying Receiver always works, though sometimes it takes several attempts. Whether it works or not seems to be decided by the time I get to the login screen, and it doesn't seem to change unless I mess with the Unifying Receiver. I haven't noticed a way to predict whether it will happen. Does anyone
[02:12] <xclusive585> *buntu was my first REAL attempt at linux. Been using it as my server OS for a few years now. Love it.
[02:12] <somethinginteres> pepee: back again.. it literally now says I have 0 space available in /home. No idea what the heck is going on.
[02:12] <Shartsalot> i switched to ubuntu this week because i got a new SSD and decided to test win 8 and it was such an abomination that i had to abandon microsoft
[02:12] <xclusive585> I mainly work in the command line world, but I use the GUI programs as well, and run desktop *buntus in virtual machines using my laptop as a KVM. You simply cannot do this much with windows
[02:13] <obyrith> xclusive585: what were your ones before that? i remember using slax to fix my windows setup a few months before i ever installed any distro.
[02:13] <Shartsalot> my only issue is that i cant easily mount my galaxy nexus
[02:13] <pepee> somethinginteres, are you sure you are reading the "Avail" column?
[02:14] <xclusive585> obyrith: I used redhat and suse desktop versions almost 10 years ago, it sent me running away from Linux fast
[02:14] <ejv> with the exception of package management, they are all, more or less, the same
[02:15] <somethinginteres> pepee: http://pastebin.com/aZHnLkaj
[02:15] <xclusive585> I discovered Ubuntu and Debian and have been more than happy.
[02:15] <obyrith> xclusive585: heh, back then i don't think i even knew what an operating system was.
[02:15] <Jordan_U> !ot
[02:15] <Shartsalot> yeah me too i tried redhat like 10 years ago and ran from it
[02:15] <pepee> somethinginteres, did you run the comman in that website?
[02:15] <Shartsalot> every year id try a diff distro
[02:16] <pepee> Shartsalot, use virtual machines :)
[02:16] <Shartsalot> what really makes ubuntu viable for me at this point is i realized that most everything i do is in the browser
[02:16] <somethinginteres> pepee: yeah I did and I removed a further 10GB from ~/Downloads and the root of /home based on its output .
[02:16] <MrMalak> Hello
[02:17] <pepee> somethinginteres, did you check your file system?
[02:17] <somethinginteres> pepee: not yet. How would I go about doing that?
[02:19] <donvito2> 12.04 is to laggy
[02:19] <pepee> somethinginteres, use the gparted live cd
[02:19] <MrMalak> I have a little bit of an issue, I have tried to install Slackware and Fedora off of CD and both times my laptop wouldn't recognize them as bootable CD's even though my desktop would. I am trying an ubuntu CD next, but if it wont recognize it does any one have advice on what to do? I managed to get a slackware 13 cd to be recognized and installed but I would like somthing that has Gnome for a desktop option.
[02:19] <bazhang> MrMalak, using the alternate cd?
[02:20] <somethinginteres> pepee: OK.
[02:20] <bazhang> donvito2, got a support question?
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> pepee: gparted is on the ubuntu install CD, no need for an extra download dude
[02:20] <obyrith> has anyone heard of any issues with the logitech unifying receiver?
[02:20] <bazhang> obyrith, you could check launchpad for bugs/issues
[02:20] <obyrith> bazhang: i'll take a look
[02:20] <MrMalak> I havnt done Ubuntu yet, is that what the alternate cd is? if not I will do that after I try the one I am downloading now
[02:20] <pepee> MrMagic, clean your cd reader ? or use some different cd-r brand
[02:21] <donvito2> bazhang actually yes! i want my 12.04 to be not that much laggy
[02:21] <pepee> donvito, what gpu?
[02:21] <bazhang> MrMalak, the alternate cd is the text-based one, it works when the live sometimes fails
[02:21] <MrMalak> The CD I did boot off of is the same as the others I burnt, it seems like it has to do with the version of linux I am trying to install and not the media
[02:21] <pepee> *graphics card
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: what spec is your system?
[02:21] <bazhang> donvito2, thats very vague
[02:21] <donvito2> 128 mb ram, geforce 6200 turbocache
[02:21] <MrMalak> Ok, I will give it a try if the ubuntu cd I am downloading fails
[02:21] <MrMalak> can you link it to me
[02:22] <bazhang> !alternate | MrMalak
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: did you install the nvidia driver?
[02:22] <donvito2> yes
[02:22] <somethinginteres> pepee: once I load it is there something I should select or press to check FS health?
[02:22] <bazhang> donvito2, 128mb ram?
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: if you run:  nvidia-settings   does it say the driver is not in use?
[02:22] <donvito2> the video card have 128 mb ram yes
[02:22] <pepee> somethinginteres, not sure, I just read about the cd
[02:22] <ejv> im actually in 2d mode, and my load average is above 1.5, with youtube and a few terminals; 12.04 appears to have taken a step in the wrong direction from 10.04 (what i had before)
[02:22] <donvito2> no
[02:22] <bazhang> donvito2, how much system ram
[02:22] <somethinginteres> pepee: OK
[02:22] <donvito2> 1 gb
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: which desktop?
[02:22] <donvito2> the ubuntu one
[02:22] <donvito2> default
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: tried Unity2D session?
[02:23] <donvito2> yes
[02:23] <donvito2> that isnt laggy
[02:23] <MrMalak> Thank you :)
[02:23] <pepee> ejv, that, or flash uses lots of resources
[02:23] <donvito2> looks like i need better machine for effects
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: sounds like the video chip has issues with compiz then
[02:23] <pepee> as always...
[02:23] <bazhang> donvito2, that card is quite old, I'd stick with unity 2d
[02:23] <pepee> really, flash eats cpu
[02:24] <ejv> just an observation; 10.04 was much faster as a whole; *shrug*
[02:24] <donvito2> well okey
[02:24] <donvito2> i figure it out
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> should use 2d anyway, bypasses compiz nonesense
[02:24] <donvito2> why was that laggy
[02:24] <MrMalak> Busy IRC chan
[02:24] <donvito2> what if i use gnome or kde?
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> MrMalak: yes, its the official channel for the fastest growing distro :)
[02:24] <donvito2> kde will be laggy too right?
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: unity is a shell for gnome. you have it already
[02:25] <donvito2> ah ok
[02:25] <ejv> there's so many variables that changed between the two LTS versions; gnome, kernel, package versions, etc. impossible to pinpoint the real cause of the slowdown
[02:25] <donvito2> thanks for help
[02:25] <ksbalaji> I cannot run synaptic. While opening I get :balaji@balaji-desktop:~$ sudo synaptic
[02:25] <ksbalaji> Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:25] <ksbalaji>   File "/usr/sbin/update-apt-xapian-index", line 699, in <module>
[02:25] <ksbalaji>     res = updateIndex(dbpath, addons, progress)
[02:25] <ksbalaji>   File "/usr/sbin/update-apt-xapian-index", line 340, in updateIndex
[02:25] <FloodBot1> ksbalaji: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:25] <ksbalaji>     cache = apt.Cache(memonly=True,progress=aptprogress)
[02:25] <pepee> ejv, let's hope wayland improves the situation
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> pepee: hope so :)
[02:26] <ejv> never heard of it heh
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> pepee: although nvidia don't like wayland
[02:26] <pepee> sad
[02:27] <ksbalaji> sorry.
[02:27] <ejv> i am curious what the lts server version experience will be; i'll install that when my new hardware arrives
[02:27] <ejv> ksbalaji: apt-get install pastebinit
[02:27] <ejv> or wgetpaste
[02:27] <jaysonr> exit
[02:28] <ejv> i forget what its called in ubuntu land
[02:28] <alecbenzer> buying a new laptop -- any recommendations in terms of graphics cards? of intel, amd, nvidia, anyone I should avoid, anyone I should go for?
[02:28] <Fezzler> ok, just installed lubuntu over 11.10.  Rebooted.  Boots to 11.10 users login page again.  What now?
[02:28] <ejv> a question for #ubuntu-offtopic alecbenzer !
[02:28] <pepee> alecbenzer, if you are very lucky, all should work out of the box
[02:28] <alecbenzer> ejv: well i meant in terms of driver support, that's sort of on-topic?
[02:30] <alecbenzer> pepee: I remember having a lot of trouble with an old amd card and linux in general. it worked, but the integrated chip on my laptop could out-perform it in compiz and stuff -- has amd support gotten better?
[02:30] <ejv> alecbenzer: as of linux 3.4, there are gpu driver additions for kepler 600, radeon 7xxx / trinity APUs, and intel medfield = you'll be just fine.
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> alecbenzer: avoid switchable GPU
[02:30] <Fezzler> pepee> What now?  Lubuntu installed.
[02:30] <Fezzler> pepee> How to I make it my new speedy desktop?
[02:30] <ksbalaji> ejv, balaji@balaji-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install pastebinit   Reading package lists... Error! E: Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - open (2: No such file or directory) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[02:30] <pepee> Fezzler, logout, select lxde
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> Fezzler: use the cog icon near your username
[02:31] <ejv> well thats weird ksbalaji, sry not sure how to handle that
[02:31] <strictland> planning to install 12.04 LTS, how much do i need for swap? I have 16gb memmory, 80 gb hdd
[02:31] <ejv> ksbalaji: did you run an apt-get update for fun?
[02:31] <pepee> ActionParsnip, that works fine in amd, although you can't use both gpu's at the same time :(
[02:31] <Fezzler> ActionParsnip> And select what?
[02:31] <donvito2> what is less in edubuntu than ubuntu?
[02:32] <Fezzler> ActionParsnip> I see the cog
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> pepee: I just wouldnt touch it, too many issues
[02:32] <ejv> strictland: anything over 4G is probably excessive; i don't even have swap.
[02:32] <strictland> i plan on using hybernate eatures
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> Fezzler: you select the lxde session in thelogin screen, you use the cog near your username
[02:32] <strictland> *features
[02:32] <pepee> wasn't hybernate removed?
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> Fezzler: not the cog on the desktop
[02:32] <strictland> was it?
[02:32] <alecbenzer> alright, so it'd be silly to avoid an otherwise good configuration because of an amd gfx chip?
[02:32] <ksbalaji> ejv, update runs automatically. I got notifications. So I tried synaptic.
[02:33] <pepee> not sure, but there was some discussion about it
[02:33] <Fezzler> ActionParsnip> Choices are Recovery Console; Ubuntu; Ubuntu 2D; User Defined Session....???
[02:33] <ejv> strictland: if you have the drive space to burn, 50% of your memory then, so if you have 1000 firefox tabs... yea heh
[02:33] <ejv> ksbalaji: weird, guess you're stuck with pastebin website; sorry ;)
[02:33] <pepee> alecbenzer, well, the propietary driver won't support crossfire, at least for my config
[02:34] <pepee> you still have to select the other gpu, logout and login
[02:34] <alecbenzer> pepee: crossfire is the multiple card thing, right? I doubt I'll be getting two gpus -- it's for a laptop
[02:34] <pepee> s/won't/doesn't/
[02:34] <Fezzler> pepee> How do I log out from the log in screen?  All I see is Shutdown
[02:34] <strictland> i have an 80gb hdd which will only be used by OS the programs that already come installed in 12.04, My memmory is 16gb... so youre saying use 8gb for swap?
[02:35] <ksbalaji> anyone to help with starting synaptic / apt-get / update manager please?
[02:35] <naryfa> strictland: you'll probably be good with 2
[02:35] <pepee> Fezzler, try rebooting then. I suppose you have lightdm/gdm
[02:35] <naryfa> strictland: at 16GB I doubt you'll ever touch swap
[02:35] <jane_wayne78> i've installed ubuntu 12.04 server and gvncviewer, when i type in gvncviewer localhost:0, i get "cannot open display" any ideas?
[02:36] <strictland> and if hibernate is still included in 12.04, 2 gb for swap is enough?
[02:36] <ejv> he insists on having swap, 8GB sounds delicious if not, liberal :)
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> strictland: if you have 2Gb RAM then use 2.2Gb swap
[02:36] <pepee> strictland, no, I don't think so
[02:36] <naryfa> then by all means, if it feels good, have 8
[02:36] <Fezzler> pepee> Ok.  Shutdown.  Now restarting.
[02:37] <ksbalaji> bye friends. Hoping to try my own luck with tinkering.
[02:37] <pepee> bye ksbalaji
[02:37] <strictland> better safe than sorry i guess.... all my data reside on other hdds
[02:37] <pepee> hmm for some reason, xchat shows this channel in a new window
[02:37] <ejv> i have mysql, multiple VMs, samba, etc. ram usage is sitting at 6GB / 16GB; no swap necessary for me.
[02:37] <^Satan^> Is there a way to have MATE load prior to login, like Gnome 3 does?
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> ^Satan^: mate isnt supported here
[02:38] <Fezzler> pepee> Ok.  Boot back to the 11.10 multiple user login in screen
[02:38] <ejv> it's not? why? bitterness? :)
[02:38] <strictland> good info ejv. thanks
[02:38] <^Satan^> lol
[02:38] <ejv> strictland: my usage pattern may not reflect yours; and I /never/ hibernate.
[02:39] <Fezzler> pepee> How do I tell it to start using lubuntu?  Or maybe it is after I login?
[02:39] <^Satan^> I just don't like Unity or Gnome 3, so I started with 12.04 LTS server, and installed MATE on top of it
[02:39] <pepee> Fezzler, do you see some options there?
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> ^Satan^: unity isn't a DE
[02:39] <pepee> select LXDE
[02:39] <pepee> brb
[02:39] <strictland> i can spare the 8gb, so i think im good
[02:39] <^Satan^> right, well I don't much like Gnome 3 either
[02:40] <ejv> if you want to get fancy; you can use LVM, then later on if you decide you don't have enough swap, grow the partition from your available storage pool
[02:40] <strictland> i heard about that... and it wont affect filesystem in a ny negative way?
[02:40] <Fezzler> pepee> some
[02:40] <Poobutt> how do i change dns servers in ubuntu? i want to enter the google dns
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> ^Satan^: I'd ask in the mint channel, they use mate
[02:41] <ejv> resolv.conf ?
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Poobutt: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using
[02:41] <^Satan^> mmm, but I'm not running mint
[02:41] <xangua> Poobutt: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/setup-static-dns-servers-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ pd. just use gksu with gedit instead of sudo
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> ejv: the file is generated each boot, so changes will be lost
[02:41] <Fezzler> pepee> Nothing that lets me select lxed
[02:41] <^Satan^> oh well, I'll ask around there anyway
[02:42] <Poobutt> thx!!!
[02:42] <ejv> linux gets rebooted? huh? :)
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> ejv: oh fo sho
[02:43] <pepee> xchat just crashed
[02:43] <pepee> what the
[02:43] <ejv> if you want to cowboy it Poobutt, sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf; of if you're getting your address from DCHP, best to go upstream and change your router/modem config.
[02:43] <ejv> s/of/or/g
[02:43] <Fezzler> ActionParsnip> Any ideas?
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> ejv: or just set the interface to dhcp (address only) in network manager. Lots easier
[02:44] <ejv> but but... what if he doesn't have a network manager!
[02:44] <xangua> ejv: also resolv.conf is not longer editable
[02:45] <pepee> Fezzler, just select LXDE
[02:45] <ejv> you mean i can't bring my gentoo knives and apply them here? bah!
[02:46] <Fezzler> pepee> Where?  After I run get apt install lubuntu-desktop it was supposed to reboot to Lubuntu but it does not
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> ejv: you can you echo with sudo tee to edit it :)
[02:47] <jane_wayne78> when you install ubuntu + xen, is vnc server installed by default? can't connect to my hvm guest os to continue its install
[02:47] <web1> so i want to install flash player on my iceweasal web browser . I have debian 6.0 . anyone know how to install it ?
[02:47] <pepee> Fezzler, there should be an option somewhere in the desktop manager
[02:47] <pepee> Fezzler, in lightdm
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> web1: ask in #debian
[02:48] <pepee> Fezzler, lxde + ubuntu = lubuntu
[02:48] <web1> ahkk thx
[02:48] <^Satan^> mate + ubuntu should = mubuntu then :D
[02:49] <Fezzler> pepee> Where?  Upper left has computer name; middle has list of users for login; uppr right has circle, sound, time and cog; cog next to my name too.
[02:49] <Fezzler> pepee> So login?
[02:50] <Fezzler> pepee> Oh, bottom left says ubuntu 11.10
[02:50] <pepee> Fezzler, there is not some drop-down menu?
[02:50] <Fezzler> pepee> Yes there is
[02:51] <Fezzler> pepee> Suspend; Hybernate; Shutdown.
[02:51] <^Satan^> hmmm
[02:52] <Fezzler> Cog next to my user name offers: Recovery Console; Ubuntu; Ubuntu 2D; User Defined Session....???
[02:53] <pepee> what does "User Defined Session" do?
[02:56] <Fezzler> pepee> Puts and asterix next to it
[02:56] <Fezzler> pepee> All those options next to user name puts a asterix next to selection after clicked
[02:57] <eph3meral> is flash still broken for people on 64 bit 11.10?
[02:57] <pepee> Fezzler, I don't really know, at least kdm will let me select my session
[02:58] <eph3meral> about a month or two ago I got an update and since then flash has basically just stopped working
[02:58] <pepee> eph3meral, nope, it has been working fine for a couple years
[02:58] <eph3meral> occasionally i can watch a youtube, but usually the player is about 1/4 the size it should be
[02:58] <eph3meral> the rest of the area is just black space
[02:58] <pepee> from these, what do you see? http://www.google.com/search?q=gdm+lxde&num=50&hl=en&safe=off&complete=0&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch
[02:58] <eph3meral> i usually use google chrome, but this is basically the same in firefox
[02:59] <xangua> eph3meral: tried disabling hardware acceleration¿
[02:59] <eph3meral> xangua, acceleration of what? you mean like nvidia drivers?
[02:59] <pepee> eph3meral, install adobe-flashplugin from the ubuntu partner repos
[02:59] <Fezzler> pepee> frustrating
[02:59] <eph3meral> flash used to work fine, with the nvidia drivers and all
[02:59] <pepee> Fezzler, yeah..
[02:59] <eph3meral> pepee, hmm, lemme look at which repo I have it from right now
[02:59] <Fezzler> pepee> DO I need to do something at the kernel splash screen before the login app loads?
[03:00] <pepee> Fezzler, no
[03:00] <pepee> Fezzler, try just logging in
[03:00] <eph3meral> pepee, right now I'm using flashplugin-installer
[03:00] <eph3meral> also, doesn't chrome ship with its own flash that updates automatically/independently?
[03:00] <Fezzler> pepee> I did.  Back in Unity
[03:01] <eph3meral> seems like chrome's should actually work in that case, but I guess not
[03:01] <eph3meral> pepee, so you think adobe-flashplugin is a better/more-reliable package than flashplugin-installer ?
[03:01] <xangua> eph3meral: play any flash video, set if to full screen, right clic, properties, disable hardware acceleration
[03:01] <pepee> eph3meral, don't knwo, but for some reason, it just works
[03:02] <pepee> eph3meral, also, check if you have gnash installed or something
[03:02] <eph3meral> xangua, hmm, I don't see any such option to "disable hardware acceleration"
[03:02] <eph3meral> pepee, I do have gnash
[03:02] <eph3meral> i've seen it in ps ax before
[03:02] <eph3meral> gtk-gnash to be specific
[03:03] <pepee> ahh k, that's the reason then
[03:03] <eph3meral> hmm, what is gnash? what is it for? can I safely uninstall it?
[03:03] <zosky> hi yall. how to map (the power) keyboard button to a command *in* X11 ... i'm not running a windowmanager (xbmcBUNTU)
[03:03] <pepee> well, if you want an open source alternative, use gnash, and try to reconfigure the package
[03:03] <eph3meral> yep, gnash is definitely running right now
[03:04] <pepee> else, just install adobe flash player
[03:04] <eph3meral> well i don't even know what gnash is
[03:04] <eph3meral> well i have flash player installed, i'm saying, what is gnash, why is it there in the first place?
[03:04] <eph3meral> gnash is an open source flash alternative?
[03:04] <eph3meral> wtf installed that!? :)
[03:04] <xangua> eph3meral: so you have installed several plugins and expect to one of the two work¿
[03:04] <pepee> eph3meral, so, you have both gnash and flashplugin-installer
[03:05] <eph3meral> pepee, apparently so
[03:05] <eph3meral> i never personally intentionally installed gnash
[03:05] <eph3meral> i don't know why tf it's even there
[03:06] <eph3meral> xangua, no, you have made a very intentionally insultory and misleading statement to support your own world view of other people being stupid... I didn't freaking *know* that gnash was installed, much less what it was - give people the benefit of the doubt next time, you have been /ignored
[03:07] <xangua> ...
[03:09] <jane_wayne78> how come telnet localhost 5900 works but telnet 192.168.0.201 5900 does not work? is it because of my settings in /etc/hosts
[03:09] <jane_wayne78> ?
[03:09] <Fezzler> pepee> I hit "c" at bootup and I'm at grub> menu...Anyhting I can do?
[03:10] <pepee> Fezzler, nope, that will not help :/
[03:10] <Abhijit> jane_wayne78, its 192.168.0.201:5900
[03:10] <Fezzler> pepee> maybe it is my login screen settings?
[03:10] <pepee> Fezzler, yeah
[03:10] <hsnmck> hello, I have a lenovo x201 tablet, I saw on ubuntu's website that it's compatible with ubuntu 10.04http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201002-5341/ does this mean that the tablet features wont work with ubuntu 12.04 and it will only work wit 10.04, or it work as well with ubuntu 12.04
[03:10] <Fezzler> pepee> Thoughts?
[03:11] <hsnmck> thanks
[03:11] <pepee> Fezzler, try installing lxdm and removing gdm or lightdm
[03:11] <jane_wayne78> Abhijit: no it's not
[03:11] <Abhijit> ok
[03:11] <pepee> hsnmck, I think that it just means it was working with 10.04
[03:12] <Abhijit> jane_wayne78, try 127.0.0.0 or 127.0.0.1
[03:12] <eph3meral> pepee, awesome, uninstalling gnash and installing adobe-flashplugin works like a charm, thanks :)
[03:12] <Fezzler> pepee> So sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop was not enough?
[03:12] <eph3meral> i seriously don't know wtf installed gnash, i didn't do it knowingly ::(
[03:12] <jane_wayne78> Abhijit: yes, that works, "telnet 127.0.0.1 5900"
[03:12] <pepee> hsnmck, could ot could't work with 12.04
[03:12] <xangua> !language | eph3meral
[03:12] <Fezzler> pepee> no afraid on command line if I know what to type
[03:12] <pepee> xangua, ?
[03:13] <hsnmck> pepee,so which version of ubuntu do you recommand me to install in this case?
[03:13] <jane_wayne78> Abhijit: so "telnet localhost 5900" and "telnet 127.0.0.1 5900" both works, but the LAN ip does not.. why? "telnet 192.168.0.201 5900"
[03:13] <obyrith> peepee: because of "wt?"?
[03:13] <pepee> hsnmck, you can try doing some "google research"
[03:13] <Abhijit> jane_wayne78, no idea
[03:13] <openjck> Anyone else having trouble with the Ubuntu One music store on 12.04?
[03:13] <jane_wayne78> Abhijit: wierd..
[03:14] <openjck> Getting the message "Your Purchased Music folder is not subscribed" and my music is not downloaded. I can't be the only one.
[03:14] <clu3> hello all, I have this process running "/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon"  and google told me that it's "the process that takes care of synchronizing your files between the cloud and the desktop". Yet I have no cloud service at all, some one pls care to explain ?
[03:14] <pepee> Fezzler, apt-get install lxdm
[03:14] <Abhijit> jane_wayne78, yes.
[03:15] <andygraybeal> i just installed ubuntu 12.04 on a gateway gt5418e - at first boot, it says 'compiz crashed'  this means i should probably run in failback session right?  do i have to go to a console and apt-get sometihng?
[03:15] <zorg24> What is the default password for CUPS?
[03:16] <pepee> Fezzler, then run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lxdm
[03:16] <openjck> zorg24: None, I think.
[03:16] <Abhijit> zorg24, no
[03:16] <openjck> zorg24: Empty username and password, I think.
[03:16] <zorg24> oh lol
[03:16] <zorg24> nope blank didn't work
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> zorg24: use your account credentials
[03:17] <^Satan^> zorg24, why are you trying to log in as cups?
[03:17] <zorg24> ActionParsnip, I tried that didn't work
[03:17] <zorg24> ^Satan^, to modify a printer
[03:17] <Fezzler> pepee> progress.  lxdm install wants me to choose a login screen..gdm, lightdm or lxdm...which do I want?
[03:17] <zorg24> oh I think I found the command to add a user sudo usermod -aG lpadmin username
[03:18] <^Satan^> the account is probably disabled from logging in by default
[03:18] <pepee> Fezzler, great. select lxdm
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> zorg24: could run:  gksudo firefox http://localhost:631   should be ok then
[03:18] <^Satan^> brb
[03:19] <zorg24> ActionParsnip, that didn't help
[03:20] <Fezzler> pepee> lxdm installed.  back to prompt.  Reboot?  Or run dpkg-reconfigure lcdm?
[03:20] <pepee> Fezzler, reboot
[03:21] <zorg24> ok yay I added myself to the lpadmin group and that let me use my user credentials to log in to CUPS
[03:22] <Fezzler> pepee> really stopped using my ubuntu PC after Unity.  How is adoption of Unity going.  People like it?
[03:23] <Fezzler> pepee> One second...new login screen.  Exciting
[03:23] <zorg24> Fezzler, wait people use Unity?
[03:23] <pepee> Fezzler, no idea, really. I'm using LXDE too
[03:23] <reisio> Fezzler: what're you using instead?
[03:23] <pepee> and I've used kde for years
[03:24] <pepee> I hate gnome
[03:24] <Fezzler> reisio> Stopped using PC at 11.10  - AMD K2-266 because useless
[03:24] <reisio> ...
[03:24] <Fezzler> pepee> default desktop or choose LXDE?
[03:24] <reisio> I mean what OS are you using now
[03:24] <reisio> Windwos?
[03:24] <reisio> Windowsssss
[03:25] <pepee> Fezzler, lxde
[03:25] <Fezzler> reisio> C/PM
[03:25] <davidfn> no gui
[03:25] <reisio> Fezzler: har :p
[03:25] <pepee> I use z/OS (?)
[03:26] <Fezzler> pepee> Thanks Pepee.  Looking at slick Lxde desktop.  Did notice my other users were gone at login page.  Are they still there in system?
[03:27] <KRomo> does amd cool n quiet not work well in ubuntu? my cpu is 2.2ghz but throttles down to 1.1ghz but it seemed that ubuntu never got it above 1100 ever...
[03:27] <KRomo> system seems snappier with cnq disabled
[03:27] <KRomo> not sure if it is placebo
[03:27] <pepee> KRomo, try running: yes | sha1sum
[03:27] <Fezzler> pepee> So my AMD K6-266 will sing on Lubuntu and I am back in buisness.  No flashy Unity needed.  Just raw computing I can tweak to my own desire!
[03:28] <pepee> and in other terminal: less /proc/cpuinfo
[03:28] <reisio> pepee: heh
[03:28] <reisio> Fezzler: hope you didn't reinstall for that
[03:28] <pepee> Fezzler, that's really great!
[03:28] <k-admin> it's awesome aye
[03:29] <KRomo> k6 266? wow
[03:29] <k-admin> nahh bro
[03:29] <KRomo> are u really running a k6?
[03:30] <pepee> I wonder how does unity work in that machine
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> 2D should be ok
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> LXDE is a better fit
[03:31] <pepee> someone using e17?
[03:31] <KRomo> what was the third competitor back in the day? intel, amd and....
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> could even just use open/fluxbox and ditch the DE part :)
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: cyrix
[03:31] <KRomo> yes lol
[03:32] <Canadian1296> I have a ton of folders with files in each one. I want to move all the files into one folder. I'm completely comfortable with the command line, I just have no idea what to do (my bash script skills are a little rusty :P)
[03:33] <LordOfTime> Canadian1296:  where are these "folders"?
[03:33] <LordOfTime> Canadian1296:  are they within your /home directory?
[03:33] <LordOfTime> Canadian1296:  are they prefaced with . ?
[03:34] <Canadian1296> LordOfTime: In my home directory, and all standard folders (not prefaced with .)
[03:34] <Fezzler> reisio> Why?
[03:34] <preecher> anyone know of issue when rebooting-when doing a reboot the screen goes blank but the battery/netwoork etc... applets stay on---but system will sutdown fine its only on doing a reboot----using ubuntu12.04
[03:34] <LordOfTime> Canadian1296:  and you want this to be in a script?
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: you'll need a check to make sure that the file name doesn't already exist or the dest file will be overwritten
[03:34] <LordOfTime> ^ that too
[03:34] <Fezzler> pepee> Running like a top!  YouTube struggled in 11.10 on my PC.  With Lubuntu...it runs awesome
[03:35] <Canadian1296> LordOfTime ActionParsnip: A script or command, it doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure there are no duplicate file names, but a check would be nice
[03:35] <Fezzler> pepee> Thanks for giving me a usable Ubuntu man!!!
[03:35] <tr3nton> Wouldnt the -i flag prompt if the file exists?
[03:35] <pepee> Fezzler, you are welcome
[03:35] <pepee> Fezzler, try e17 too, and let me know how it goes
[03:36] <Fezzler> pepee> e17 ?  What is that?
[03:37] <Fezzler> pepee> I was using Ubuntu everyday from version 7 to 11.  11.10 and Unity did me in
[03:37] <pepee> Fezzler, http://www.enlightenment.org/?p=about/e17
[03:37] <Canadian1296> tr3nton: Probably, depending on what command I use. I'm just lost on how to recurse into each directory and move the files (a for loop would work, but I don't know how to loop into all the directories without writing out each of their names)
[03:38] <Fezzler> pepee> You using e17 and lubuntu / Lxde?
[03:38] <pepee> Fezzler, nope, just installed it, gotta try it
[03:38] <brophat> i have a .deb file how do I install it?
[03:38] <Fezzler> pepee> on different PC or partion?
[03:39] <brophat> well a .deb package
[03:39] <WHAT_UP> brophat: double click if you have a gui
[03:39] <MrMalak> Ok, so I downloaded the latest ubuntu live CD and its not detected as a bootable CD by my laptop, I'm going to get some more CDs but I was curious if any one had any other ideas about what to do? I can
[03:39] <WHAT_UP> and whatever ubuntu uses now for the shell
[03:39] <pepee> Fezzler, nope, you just install it in the system
[03:39] <MrMalak> 't boot off of USB
[03:39] <andygraybeal> i am installing ubuntu on a guys computer that still needs some help, but i'm gonna be in another location - what is some good 'remote desktop sharing' software where.. i can support his needs and he can watch me do it.. so i can help him learn the applications?  i know teamviewer exists, but i think it sucks i have to get some account on some website to run it
[03:40] <reisio> andygraybeal: you don't have to get an account...
[03:40] <LordOfTime> andygraybeal:  if its not already isntalled, and you're trying to dualinstall, you're kind of out of luck
[03:40] <Fezzler> pepee> I'll check it out.
[03:40] <LordOfTime> s/dualinstall/not-wubi/
[03:40] <pepee> MrMagic, so you are trying to boot ubuntu from the USB?
[03:40] <MrMalak> Is it possible that its the version of linux I am trying to boot? I was able to boot a slack 13 CD, my PC is 64 bit.
[03:40] <reisio> andygraybeal: Ubuntu comes with vino or something, though, it depends on the network whether it'll be allowed through
[03:40] <Fezzler> pepee> Thanks again.  First task Lubuntu...getting my 4 other users to appear at login.
[03:40] <andygraybeal> LordOfTime, oh no... i'm sorry - im here installing it, but i'm going to leave in two days
[03:40] <andygraybeal> reisio, okay cool man thanks
[03:41] <andygraybeal> is vino .. like vnc+ssh ?
[03:41] <joint> mrmalak try rebooting with the cd in there instead of turning the pc off
[03:41] <MrMalak> Ok, I will give it a shot
[03:42] <pepee> Fezzler, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-artwork/+bug/666590
[03:42] <KRomo> this might sound lame but any decent ebooks to "learn linux"
[03:42] <KRomo> ?
[03:43] <reisio> andygraybeal: it's VNC at least, might handle some other things, don't remember
[03:43] <pepee> Fezzler, try using gdm then, and check if it does show lxde as an option
[03:43] <reisio> andygraybeal: should be in the menus somewhere, the system/prefs/admin area
[03:43] <MrMalak> That didnt work, the cd drive isn't recognizing the disk as bootable.
[03:43] <pepee> KRomo, I know about linux from scratch. it's not a book, but a distro
[03:44] <joint> i dont know
[03:44] <pepee> MrMalak, are you trying to boot ubuntu from the USB?
[03:44] <KRomo> oh let me ask you guys this
[03:44] <brophat> ok thanks. that was easy for a change
[03:44] <KRomo> why does ./configure never work?
[03:44] <KRomo> everything i read onlinme says to use ./configure
[03:44] <KRomo> and i always get cannot be found
[03:44] <pepee> KRomo, because sometimes there is not such file
[03:45] <KRomo> so then what must be done?
[03:45] <pepee> well, in that case, you don't need it
[03:45] <Jordan_U> KRomo: You should install packages via the package manager, not by compiling from source.
[03:45] <KRomo> tar.gz files...if i want tocompile
[03:45] <Jordan_U> KRomo: What are you actually trying to install?
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: its not always needed. Did you read the readme file in the source?
[03:45] <pepee> I prefer to compile some apps, but not install them
[03:45] <MrMalak> Im trying to boot off of live cds, I am burning them in a DVD-RW drive in my PC that is 64 but. I am trying to boot them off of a Sony Viao.
[03:45] <pepee> rather, I have them in my /home partition
[03:46] <KRomo> mount_gnex.tar.bz2
[03:46] <pepee> err /home/user folder
[03:46] <KRomo> trying to mount a mtp device
[03:46] <MrMalak> I have a slack 13 CD that will boot but none of the distros I have downloaded will boot.
[03:46] <KRomo> galaxy nexus
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> MrMalak: are you burning the DVD ISO?
[03:46] <andygraybeal> reisio, okahy thanks man
[03:47] <MrMalak> I am burning the CD ISO
[03:48] <Jordan_U> KRomo: Nautilus supports MTP devices natively. Why do you think you need more software?
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-easily-mount-the-galaxy-nexus-on-ubuntu-11-10-via-unity
[03:48] <KRomo> i cant get the galuxy nexus to mount, it seems to be a common issue
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: yes, its the way the storage is used
[03:49] <KRomo> action: from what i read that fix wont work in 12.04 should i try anyway?
[03:49] <pepee> can you ssh to the phone?
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: could try it
[03:49] <pepee> konqueror has the fish protocol ;)
[03:51] <neo_> Im wanting to use ubuntu as a hypervisor(kvm), what program(s) do I install to add the minimal gui so I can use gui programs, I dont even care to have a panel
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> !kvm
[03:51] <Jordan_U> KRomo: If you just want to be able to access the device via nautilus simply "sudo apt-get install mtpfs".
[03:52] <MechanisM> Hello! I need help http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012545/
[03:52] <neo_> I am planning on using kvm but the ubuntu server doesnt have a display. Ill need a display so I can use the virtual machine
[03:52] <swooshonln> hey guys, how do I add applications to the application menu?
[03:53] <KRomo> let me try
[03:53] <MechanisM> about a month I'm unable to start gnome-control-center
[03:53] <MrMalak> How about a way to install ubuntu from slackware? Can some one tell me how to do that?
[03:53] <reisio> MrMalak: thought you were burning an image?
[03:54] <Jordan_U> neo_: You don't need a display to use KVM, you can configure Ubuntu to use a serial terminal, or simply connect via ssh.
[03:54] <MechanisM> gnome-control-centr fails to start http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012545/ help me.
[03:54] <MrMalak> I did and its not working, Im going to get some more CD's to try different media but I suspect its not because of the media.
[03:54] <Jordan_U> neo_: You'll obviously need a display somewhere, but it doesn't need to be X11 and it doesn't need to be on the same machine as that running KVM.
[03:55] <MrMalak> I could try to burn the CD from the linux laptop but so far I havn't had luck with doing that from the consol
[03:56] <MrMalak> (sp)
[03:56] <Jordan_U> MrMalak: Can your computer boot from USB?
[03:56] <MrMalak> No, I wish
[03:56] <MrMalak> The Laptop is just slightly too old
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> MrMalak: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you burn as slowly as possible?
[03:56] <neo_> Jordan_U, Im not using the machine as a strict server, I will be having kvm on the same machine that Ill be using the booted virtual operating system.
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> MrMalak: if you only have DVD media, you will need the DVD ISO
[03:57] <MrMalak> I have tried checking the CD for erros after burning it and burning it slowly, I have burnt 3 different flavors of Linux
[03:57] <andygraybeal> ah, you gjuys recommend the Backup software that comes pre-installed?  i see it's called deja dup
[03:57] <WHAT_UP> i want to be a DVD ISO when i grow up
[03:57] <MrMalak> None of them work, the one burnt CD I have found is a slackware 13 CD that was burnt on a different drive
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> MrMalak: also, you don't extract the ISO file. You burn the file as is
[03:57] <reisio> andygraybeal: I prefer rsync
[03:58] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: The CD works on other machines.
[03:58] <zombifier> Yep, rsync is the best
[03:58] <MrMalak> Yeah, I burnt them all as ISO files in the default windows 7 program and in a seperate CD mastering suite
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: i see, thanks for the heads up
[03:58] <andygraybeal> reisio, oh, bro,... i do too.. but this is for a person who is too new.
[03:58] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: You're welcome.
[03:58] <reisio> andygraybeal: set up a cron job for them, they don't need to deal with that stuff
[03:58] <andygraybeal> i run rsync on all my boxes.. but i want this guy to kinda have some control over his own stuff
[03:58] <MrMalak> I did everything I could beyond geting an old version of Linux and replacing the DVD drive with an CD burner
[03:58] <reisio> I wouldn't want to expose the backup system to a non-techie
[03:59] <reisio> I wouldn't even want them to know about it
[03:59] <reisio> except possibly so that they know not to reformat the drives if something goes wrong
[03:59] <andygraybeal> reisio, okay, that's a cool opinion .. but he's gotta know to have the hard drive on .. and then how does he restore something if he needs?
[03:59] <Jordan_U> MrMalak: Do you have an extra CD/DVD for a quick test? Most distros use isolinux for their CDs and for some reason your hardware doesn't seem to like isolinux. I have no idea what slackware uses, but I would try a CD using grub.
[04:00] <reisio> andygraybeal: not aware of any GUI magically dumbed down enough to let newbs restore large amounts of a system
[04:00]  * reisio shrugs
[04:00] <neo_> ActionParsnip, the kvm is not a strict server. Im planning on using the kvm server as the same machine that Ill access the virtual machines. Ubuntu server does not come with a display and ubuntu desktop takes up too much resources
[04:00] <andygraybeal> reisio, i guess i haven't given it much though
[04:00] <MrMalak> Yes, I have one more CD that I could burn. Should I go ahead and burn the alternate ISO?
[04:00]  * reisio shrugs
[04:00] <reisio> MrMalak: was there a problem?
[04:00] <Fezzler> pepee>> Yo
[04:00] <pepee> Fezzler, did you try using gdm?
[04:01] <Canadian1296> I figured it out on my own :)
[04:01] <pepee> MechanisM, you should try reinstalling it
[04:01] <Fezzler> pepee>> ?  Using LXDE now.  Very cool.  Simple.  Fast.  Everything seems to work!
[04:01] <MechanisM> pepee I'm tried it a lot of times
[04:01] <Fezzler> pepee>> I'm on it now.  No fuss not mess
[04:01] <MrMalak> Yes, none of the distros I download and burn will boot on this freaking Sony Viao laptop
[04:02] <Fezzler> pepee>> Not sure what you mean if I tried gdm.
[04:02] <PeterFA> I was playing music through Pandora and then my box crashed. Now after I reboot, I have no sound. I have the sound card in alsa but the sound system for the Unity doesn't show the sound card.
[04:02] <reisio> MrMalak: but Slackware is on it already?
[04:02] <MrMalak> Yeah I have a slackware  13 disc that I burnt a long time ago that did boot
[04:02] <reisio> PeterFA: sounds like a pulse issue
[04:02] <reisio> MrMalak: interesting
[04:02] <reisio> MrMalak: well you _could_ install from that, but it wouldn't be the funnest thing you ever did (unless you have time on your hands and like adventure)
[04:03] <MrMalak> but the ones I recently downloaded and tried faild, with fedora and ubunto
[04:03] <MrMalak> ubuntu
[04:03] <pepee> Fezzler, try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure lxdm , and select gdm
[04:03] <Jordan_U> neo_: I would personally go with Lubuntu, because while it's clearly not as minimal as you've specified it's pretty darn minimal and easy to work with. If you really want bare minimal then use the minimal install CD, be careful not to select options for things you don't want, and I think "xserver-xorg" should get you everything you strictly need. You will almost certainly want some window manager (there are many options) also though.
[04:03] <pepee> MechanisM, try reinstalling libwebkitgtk-3.0-0
[04:03] <brophat> I installed the rt3090 drivers but rt2800 was still loading, it should be loading rt2860 drivers, so I blacklisted it, now when I lsmod | grep rt2 nothing is listed
[04:04] <MrMalak> I honestly dont care, my girlfriend uses the laptop and I have spent hours and hours trying to get a CD to work. I honestly would rather have some help with mounting an ISO of ubuntu or Fedora and geting it to install vs spending more time trying to figure out why I cant boot from these cd's
[04:04] <brophat> and of course I have no wifi either
[04:04] <reisio> MrMalak: if you haven't tried the alternate install image and you have one disc left, that's worth a shot
[04:04] <reisio> MrMalak: or if you have a USB stick you can try as many more as you like...
[04:04] <zamba> i have created two raids.. one raid-5 array and one raid-1.. and i want to combine these two by using jbod.. how do i do that?
[04:04] <MrMalak> Ok I will give it a shot and report back when I am done
[04:04] <pepee> MrMalak, hmm now I remember
[04:04] <reisio> MrMalak: no USB sticks?
[04:04] <pepee> MrMalak, you don't need a cd
[04:04] <MrMalak> I can't boot from USB I would have lol
[04:04] <reisio> MrMalak: ah okay
[04:04] <MrMalak> No the laptop wont let me boot to USB in the BIOS
[04:04] <reisio> MrMalak: well give a yell if the alternate fails
[04:04] <ceptic> hi can anyone help with ubuntu server?
[04:04] <reisio> MrMalak: old?
[04:04] <wifioregon> hi. I run a chat room where I convince lots of people to install ubuntu. I've always had them install side by side by booting to a disc, but was wondering if I should suggest the WUBi installer instead. Is it true that if you install ubuntu with the wubi installer that it will be slower that installing regularily? if so, how slow?
[04:04] <reisio> ceptic: sure...
[04:04] <MrMalak> Yeah its about 5 years or so old
[04:05] <pepee> MrMalak, you can try the hd-media install, or whatever it's called
[04:05] <Jordan_U> MrMalak: Don't waste your one CD left on another iso using isolinux.
[04:05] <reisio> wifioregon: it's just generally more problematic
[04:05] <MrMalak> I can just buy more cds
[04:05] <brophat> anyway I can check if a driver is installed? not necessarily loaded, just installed and ready to go
[04:05] <reisio> wifioregon: since the whole system is installed inside a file on Windows' NTFS
[04:05] <pepee> Jordan_U, how would you do it?
[04:05] <MechanisM> pepee I'm already tried to reinstall everything mentioned in this trace and some relative to this issue libs
[04:05] <MrMalak> Im proding my GF to go get more from CVS while I try and fix this
[04:05] <reisio> MrMalak: :D
[04:05] <reisio> I just burnt a CD
[04:05] <reisio> first burn in many months
[04:06] <reisio> it felt icky
[04:06] <MrMalak> lol
[04:06] <Jordan_U> wifioregon: I would not recommend Wubi. It's a great concept but there aren't currently enough developers actively maintaining it to make it as stable and robust as it should be.
[04:06] <reisio> and the box I burnt it for turned out to not even be 64-bit
[04:06] <neo_> Jordan_U, what window manager would you recommend?
[04:06] <reisio> gonna give it away tomorrow
[04:06] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: "great concept" you must be joking...
[04:06] <ceptic> reisio pm me?
[04:06] <UnityFan> i can atest that wubi kinda sux...it made me rthink ubuntu was super slow
[04:06] <El_Caballero> Hello guys. I have seem a lot of photos of Ubuntu over Android. But, is anybody here which has done that? Is it as good as it is in the photos?
[04:06] <pepee> MrMalak, you want to try  the hd-media install?
[04:06] <UnityFan> a true install is sooooooooo much faster
[04:07] <MrMalak> No I don't know what the hd-media install is
[04:07] <zombifier> El_Caballero: If you are talking about Ubuntu for Android, then it's not released yet
[04:07] <Fezzler> pepee>> do I need to reboot?
[04:07] <pepee> Fezzler, logout
[04:07] <Jordan_U> neo_: Fluxbox is very lightweight and usable, and unlike most window managers also gives you enough of a "desktop environment" (right click on the desktop to get an application menu) to make it usable on its own.
[04:08] <pepee> El_Caballero, IIRC, ubuntu is installed *over* android
[04:08] <zykotick9> neo_: fluxbox is kinda dated, openbox is a slightly more moder version of the same basic theme
[04:08] <UnityFan> is there any way to have "folders" in the unity bar? i would like to be able to click a libreoffice plugin that then shows the 3 libreoffice programs
[04:08] <UnityFan> not have all 3 take up room
[04:08] <El_Caballero> pepee: Yes, exactly. Chrooted.
[04:08] <pepee> MrMalak, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows#The_CD_image_approach
[04:08] <UnityFan> plugin = shortcurt
[04:09] <MrMalak> I will BRB I need to go to the CVS to get more media to trash
[04:09] <pepee> MrMalak, you will need the alternate iso CD and anothe partition
[04:09] <El_Caballero> pepee: I have seen photos of Openoffice, firefox, nautilus, etc over Ubuntu and over android
[04:09] <MrMalak> The funny thing is that they boot on my PC but not this laptop
[04:09] <UnityFan> why are you using media? just use a flash drive
[04:09] <El_Caballero> pepee: is that possible in real life?
[04:09] <pepee> El_Caballero, yeah, I've seen those too, but never tried
[04:09] <Jordan_U> MrMalak: When you get back I should have a grub based iso for you to try.
[04:09] <MrMalak> Because I can't boot from a flopy or a USB stick
[04:09] <UnityFan> oh
[04:09] <MrMalak> Ok thank you Jordan
[04:09] <reisio> ...
[04:09] <Jordan_U> MrMalak: You're welcome.
[04:09] <pepee> El_Caballero, you can try doing it in a virtual machine :P
[04:10] <reisio> he doesn't need to try everything under the sun :p
[04:10] <pepee> El_Caballero, download the android SDK and try...
[04:10] <El_Caballero> pepee: oh... ok ok
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> just checked the websites for flux/openbox, both latest releases are about the asme date
[04:10] <MrMalak> The laptop is new enough to not have a floppy drive in it, you can get them but I dont have one to swap for the CD-RW and the BIOS doesn't have an option to boot from USB because its too old
[04:10] <Jordan_U> MrMalak: I assume it's 32 bit only?
[04:11] <MrMalak> Yeah it is a 32 bit CPU
[04:11] <ceptic> anyone help with ubuntu server?
[04:11] <pepee> ActionParsnip, they should be working to use wayland
[04:11] <pepee> ceptic, just ask
[04:11] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i wasn't meaning version # - but these days fluxbox feels kinda dated to me...
[04:11] <swooshonln> hey guys, how do I add applications to the application menu?
[04:11] <MrMalak> Ok, AFK I am walking next door to get more media to trash
[04:11] <wifioregon> Jordan_U:  Thanks for your advice. Sorry for the late reply...so its problematic huh>? Darn...a lot of people get cnofused with installing ubuntu side by side...is it SLOWER though?  If so how much slower?
[04:12] <lucas_tor4> Hello! Somebody help-me with this question: sqrt(P/R) equalswhatvariable?
[04:12] <lucas_tor4> it's a forum.
[04:12] <azl> im using ubuntu 11.4  and my jdk is crashed it seems how can i reinstall that???/
[04:12] <dr_willis> swooshonln:  askubuntu.com has a few good guides on that. short answer. make a proper .desktop file for the app
[04:12] <reisio> lucas_tor4: ...
[04:12] <lucas_tor4> I'm can't response this question....
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> ceptic: ask away, the channel will reply if it can
[04:12] <lucas_tor4> look: http://www.slocloneforums.com/ucp.php?mode=register
[04:13] <reisio> lucas_tor4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm%27s_law ?
[04:13] <azl>  im using ubuntu 11.4  and my jdk is crashed it seems how can i reinstall that???/
[04:13] <lortech> Is there a way to update the repositories ? I am getting alot of web page 404 when installing mysql-server ?
[04:13] <azl>  im using ubuntu 11.4  and my jdk is crashed it seems how can i reinstall that???/
[04:13] <pepee> lucas_tor4, ?
[04:13] <dr_willis> azl:  use teh package manager tools.. but why do you think jdk is crashed?
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> lortech: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[04:13] <lortech> Action, hold on will upload to pastebin
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> lortech: its a single line, so is ok to paste here
[04:14] <azl> am not able to use my net beans it showing an error unble to find Java
[04:14] <spdupee> ok I am trying to scan my raid drive, but I am getting error daemon is inhibited?  what is the daemon for raid?
[04:14] <user12345> sometimes Ibus does not switch languages when I tell it to.
[04:14] <lortech> natty?
[04:14] <dr_willis> azl:  so your java env variables may not be set properly.
[04:14] <lortech> reply is natty
[04:14] <lucas_tor4> pepee, reisio, i can't response the answer, i don't know. I need help.
[04:15] <Fezzler> pepee>> Very cool.  I can choose at login.  Was that your point?  What is Open Box?
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> lortech: thats ok, natty is still supported
[04:15] <reisio> lucas_tor4: /join #math
[04:15] <lucas_tor4> rsr, ok.
[04:15] <lortech> so, what next?
[04:15] <lucas_tor4> reisio, thanks
[04:15] <azl> dr_willis:and i was using open jdk and it was working fyne
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> lortech: can you web browse on the system?
[04:15] <lortech> yes
[04:15] <Jordan_U> wifioregon: Any reading from or writing to disk will have to be somewhat slower do to the fact that both ntfs and ext4 metadata will need to be read and data will have to go through an extra layer of software, but I have no idea how much slower that is. Everthing not dependant on IO should be the same speed.
[04:15] <pepee> lucas_tor4, http://www.google.com/search?q=%22sqrt%28P%2FR%29%22
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> lortech: tried switching package source?
[04:15] <dr_willis> azl:   you can purge/reinstall java using the package manager tools - if you think it will help
[04:16] <lortech> not sure ...my linux skills are very rusty
[04:17] <pepee> Fezzler, neve used openbox
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> lortech: use software centre
[04:17] <lortech> Action, never heard the comment of switching package source. I think my respositories are hitting some dead linkes
[04:18] <brophat> I installed new drivers for my wifi card but the system still loads the old drivers. How can I check if the new drivers actually exist?
[04:18] <chrislu5tic1> Hi there I need to copy and paste a few files into /usr/local/games/doom3/base
[04:18] <chrislu5tic1> says I don't have permissions,  cant seem to change permissions for the folder either
[04:18] <chrislu5tic1> says im not the owner
[04:18] <lortech> never heard of software centre. sounds french :)
[04:18] <Fezzler> pepee>> neve?  Was your point in telling me to load gdm was that I can choose desktop at login?
[04:18] <zykotick9> wifioregon: more then the performance detrement of wubi - wubi update and upgrade record is not good, even for ubuntu standards.  wubi is not a serious install.  dualbooting is IMO a lot better.
[04:18] <pepee> Fezzler, ahh, that. the idea is that you can choose the user, too
[04:18] <lortech> is there a command to update my respositories ?
[04:18] <pepee> Fezzler, can you?
[04:18] <zykotick9> lortech: "sudo apt-get update"
[04:18] <lortech> did that
[04:19] <veebull> anybody have any ideas as to why ubuntu install partitioner barfs when trying to delete a ZFS partition?
[04:19] <lortech> thats when i got a number of 404 from dead sites
[04:19] <azl> How can i remove java from my ubuntu 11.4 machine
[04:19] <Jordan_U> !details | veebull
[04:19] <Fezzler> pepee>> Yes, they were all there.  Why not in Lxde?
[04:19] <brophat> where are all the drivers located?
[04:19] <zykotick9> veebull: ZFS isn't a native gnu/linux format... what do you expect?
[04:19] <pepee> Fezzler, you can choose to run lxde too
[04:19] <wifioregon> zykotick9:  THANKS. I wont recommend WUBI anymore to anyone
[04:19] <lortech> trying again sudu apt-get update
[04:20] <neo_> if I am already booted into a machine, can I add a cdrom or is that something that can only be specified at boot
[04:20] <veebull> 12.04, Xubuntu, have three 500GB sata hdds that previously had zfs installed on them
[04:20] <wifioregon> zykotick9: I just need to make it clear how to install side by side by booting to cd
[04:20] <Fezzler> pepee>> So use gdm as the login and let users choose?
[04:20] <wifioregon> zykotick9: A lot of people are geting confused with it
[04:20] <pepee> Fezzler, yeah
[04:20] <Fezzler> pepee>> cool
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> lortech: there are many servers around the globe holding ubuntu packages, you can change which your system uses.
[04:20] <veebull> installer had no problem wiping sda1 as part of the automated 'erase everything and install ubuntu' mode
[04:20] <Fezzler> pepee>> You know I never got audio to work with 11.10/Unity.  Worked great in LXDE
[04:21] <zykotick9> wifioregon: wubi is insanity to me.  but that's a personal opinion - others will have a much different opinion about wubi...
[04:21] <veebull> but if I go back and select 'something else' and try to manually delete sdb1 or sdc1 (both zfs, just like sda1 was originally)
[04:21] <veebull> the partition manager crashes
[04:21] <chrislu5tic1> I  need to copy files into /usr/local/games/doom3/base   says I dont have permissions,
[04:21] <chrislu5tic1> cant seem to change them either , help meh please
[04:21] <lortech> reading in the news, some thief brakes into a garage ripps off 15,000 of tools. Second time, with cameras I suspect the thief ripped off tools again two months latter. DVR and cameras do not deter a thief :)
[04:21] <dr_willis> id just use fdisk, or gparted to delete teh zfs partions and not use the installer to manage them
[04:22] <lortech> now, motion sence camera like zoneminder will inform the owner ...which is one big dude.
[04:22] <pepee> chrislu5tic1, sudo cp ... etc.
[04:22] <veebull> dr_willis, that may be what I end up doing... but I'd wanted to see if I could set them up as raid 1 during install
[04:22] <chrislu5tic1> Im not so advanced here,
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> chrislu5tic1: gksudo nautilus $HOME
[04:22] <Jordan_U> veebull: For RAID you need to use the alternate install CD anyway.
[04:22] <pepee> Fezzler, could have been some problem related to pulseaudio
[04:23] <Jordan_U> !alternate | veebull
[04:23] <lortech> erorr 404  sudu apt-get update : Failed to fetch http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.156 80]
[04:23] <lortech> there are other 404s in the list
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> lortech: debian isn't supported here
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> ooops
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> sorry
[04:23] <lortech> k
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> dapper is EOL
[04:23] <dr_willis> !dapper
[04:24] <wifioregon> zykotick9:  Yea I always had the impression that its slow and buggy, so I NEVER tried it...but a friend that is really into linux said it runs great for him..so I started suggesting it yesterday...first person that installed it said it was slower than honey
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> lortech: its is ubuntu, just that support has come to an end
[04:24] <veebull> Jordan_U, interesting... this machine is going to be sort of a workstation... gui (xfce) for limited login and use (down in my shop), with some server stuff installed.  do you think it'd be easier to install using alternate cd and add xubuntu-desktop or install using xubuntu cd and set up raid later with mdadm?
[04:24] <chrislu5tic1> Thanks actionparsnip
[04:24] <dr_willis> azl to remove a package completely you use the 'purge' option to  apt-get
[04:24] <lortech> I see
[04:24] <veebull> !minimal
[04:25] <wifioregon> Do you guys know how to uninstall ubuntu once its been installed WUBI method..so that they can install it the right way?
[04:25] <dr_willis> wifioregon:  it has an entry in the add/remove programs section of windows.
[04:25] <zombifier> wifioregon: Just go into Windows and remove it
[04:25] <lortech> ActionParsnip:  thanks much. will ask in lubuntu
[04:25] <wifioregon> oh cool
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> wifioregon: use add /remove programs
[04:25] <wifioregon> thanks
[04:25] <tr3nton> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Uninstallation
[04:25] <Jordan_U> veebull: Definitely easier to start with raid, and there is an Xubuntu alternate install CD anyway.
[04:26] <veebull> Jordan_U, cool, thanks.  off to d/l another cd image ;)
[04:26] <wifioregon> Does Ubuntu have an official guide on how to properly install ubuntu side by side windows?
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> lortech: Dapper is not supported anywhere, it's like asking for Windows 98 support
[04:26] <Jordan_U> veebull: You're welcome.
[04:26] <dr_willis> wifioregon:  the installer walks you through it normally
[04:26] <zykotick9> !manual | wifioregon you could check this?  not sure if it's there
[04:26] <dr_willis> wifioregon:  unless you got 4 primary partitions allreadyu defined.. it should be abl eto do it
[04:26] <Jordan_U> wifioregon: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-ubuntu-desktop
[04:27] <wifioregon> wifioregon, I know..its super easy for me, but I run a computer help chat for beginers and I suggest ubuntu ALL the time...and a lot of people are confused with how to install side by side
[04:27] <tr3nton> wifioregon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[04:27] <wifioregon> thanks
[04:28] <wifioregon> really appreciate the help
[04:28] <dr_willis> #1 issue i see these days are pc makers using 4 primary partitions. which can  require extra work
[04:28] <zykotick9> dr_willis: that's so nasty of the OEMs
[04:29] <RumRum> Maybe if you weren’t so distracted by sick children in Africa, you could have put a little more thought into Windows Vista.
[04:29] <RumRum> - Conversation between Dr. Sheldon Cooper & Bill Gates.
[04:29] <Jordan_U> !ot | RumRum
[04:31] <lucas_tor4> Somebody help-me with this CAPTCHA: http://www.slocloneforums.com/ucp.php?mode=register
[04:32] <dr_willis> err.. we wont see the same captcha
[04:32] <dr_willis> and its not really ubuntu topic. :)
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> lucas_tor4: it will be different for whoever accesses it
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> lucas_tor4: there is usually an audio option
[04:33] <azl> im using ubuntu 11.4// ClassNot found Exception when im checking -java -version
[04:33] <zykotick9> dr_willis: ActionParsnip isn't this captcha thing just an attempt to get people to sign up?
[04:34] <MrMalak> Im back, where should I look for that alternate ISO that doesn't use ISO linux?
[04:34] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  no idea. ;) not going to the site..
[04:34] <ankk> hi
[04:34] <zykotick9> dr_willis: nor i
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: isnt it just to make sure you aren't a bot?
[04:34] <ankk> where is system tools on ubuntu 12.04 tls one?
[04:34] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: social engineering
[04:34] <ankk> i installed fresh ubuntu but i can't find console
[04:34] <Darkenvy> Im having an issue installing gnome3. I installed gnome-shell and choose gnome at login but it looks like im in gnome fallback (ubuntu 10.04 style). I am on ubuntu 12.04
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> ankk: what are you trying to do?
[04:34] <dr_willis> MrMalak:  seen tools at pendrivelinux site to make a bootable usb using Grub2
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> ankk: its in dash, or you can press CTRL+ALT+T
[04:35] <ankk> i just want to fix my screen resolution and open a console
[04:35] <MrMalak> I have not but I don't have a way to boot from a USB if I have to
[04:35] <Jordan_U> MrMalak: http://jordanu.dyndns.org/tmp/ubuntu_minimal_with_grub_for_MrMalak.iso
[04:36] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: ie. lucas_tor4 just want everyone to sign up to his site
[04:36] <lortech> lubuntu very very quiet compared to this channel
[04:36] <Jordan_U> MrMalak: My internet connection is terrible so it might take a while to download.
[04:36] <MrMalak> Thats ok, thank you for the help
[04:36] <MrMalak> Im going to give this a shot before I go and see if I have a CD-RW drive kicking around I can try to use to get it going
[04:36] <Jordan_U> MrMalak: You're welcome. Please keep me informed on how well it works.
[04:37] <MrMalak> I have new media as well so that shouldnt be an issue now not that I think it was heh
[04:37] <ankk> ActionParsnip thank you and i can't change my screen resolution. it's 800x600
[04:38] <tootenpoopin> yes hi
[04:38] <ankk> interesting. it worked now
[04:38] <tootenpoopin> im listening to music (mp3) on ubuntu using the same hardware i had on windows and the audio sounds better lol
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> ankk: sweet
[04:39] <tootenpoopin> is that possible with rhythmbox?
[04:39] <tootenpoopin> or placebo?
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> tootenpoopin: different driver :)
[04:39] <tootenpoopin> i was worried linux wouldnt have good support for the card too
[04:41] <MrMalak> Yeah, the software was probably designed with more care tootenpoopin.
[04:41] <rypervenche> tootenpoopin: Well you sir, were wrong!
[04:41] <tootenpoopin> creative drivers on windows was a train wreck
[04:41] <ceptic> is it normal for windows setup to appear when booting from a ubuntu cd?
[04:41] <ankk> my videocard and monitor have 1920x1080 support but ubuntu doesn't show that option in displays settings
[04:41] <ankk> what should i do?
[04:41] <MrMalak> roflmao @ ceptic
[04:41] <tootenpoopin> ankk: video driver up to date?
[04:41] <Jordan_U> ceptic: No. That means you're not actually booting from the Ubuntu CD.
[04:42] <ceptic> i know but kernal loaded and went into windows setup O
[04:42] <ceptic> :O
[04:42] <ankk> tootenpoopin it's fresh installation
[04:42] <Jordan_U> ceptic: How do you know that Ubuntu's linux kernel booted?
[04:42] <tootenpoopin> did you enable nvidia or ati driver?
[04:43] <ceptic> showed on screen loading the drivers then ubuntu appeared click install and went into windows setup :S
[04:44] <Jordan_U> ceptic: Could you possibly upload a video of this?
[04:44] <woprr> [libspandsp] Request .so version name like 6.20.0 to match upstream mainrelease versioning scheme and to avoid field usage problems by so-name confusion and alternatives config systems (Which may be needed cause of still many peer T.30/T.38-"Terminators"), see http://www.soft-switch.org/downloads/spandsp/
[04:45] <ceptic> well i cant screen record :S  could take video on my phone?  but now i just done it again cos i thought it might of been me but it deffo does it now its saying the file usbohci.sys is corrrupted :O
[04:45] <Jordan_U> ceptic: A cellphone video is fine.
[04:47] <MrMalak> Ceptic: I would love a video of that too, thats too funny
[04:48] <kapz> someone please guide me to install grub2 on a ss drive....I made a 2 mb partition and chrooted the system to install grub by install-grub /dev/sda...but after reboot i get bootmgr is missing
[04:48] <ceptic> hmm this time when i done it it showed checking the configuration in the nice text ubuntu has then went into windows setup ZOMG FML!
[04:49] <Jordan_U> kapz: Did you get any error message from grub-install? Are you sure that your BIOS is booting from sda?
[04:49] <MrMalak> I think my next step after trying this grub install will be to try an older version of ubuntu and then I will tear my hair out and try to see if I have a cd-rw drive laying around
[04:49] <kapz> Jordan_U, no grub installed fine, then i even updated it successfully by update-grub2
[04:49] <ceptic> yeah deffo no error messages first couple of times looked as if it was working fine
[04:50] <ceptic> and now it keeps redirecting me to windows setup upon boot
[04:50] <ceptic> 2min i try another machine have like 10 around me at the moment :|
[04:51] <pepee> ceptic, hold down SHIFT after rebooting
[04:51] <Jordan_U> kapz: I asked two questions. You only answered one of them.
[04:52] <ceptic> holding shigt its not doing anything still going into windows setup
[04:52] <dr_willis> sounds like grub is not installed to the mbr then.
[04:52] <pepee> ceptic, what version of windows?
[04:52] <ceptic> xp sp2
[04:52] <ceptic> old machine
[04:52] <dr_willis> ive seen Bios/AV protection remove grub befor
[04:52] <pepee> would be funny if it was win8 lol
[04:53] <ceptic> mmm i have bios av protection enabled if i remember rightly
[04:53] <pepee> next day in the press: "win8 won't let you install ubuntu"
[04:53] <ForSpareParts> Could anyone explain to me how to safely upgrade my (proprietary) AMD graphics drivers? Apparently I have to uninstall the old versions first, and I'm terrified of doing that after the nightmare I went through getting them to work in the first place...
[04:53] <pepee> ceptic, no error messages?
[04:53] <dr_willis> pepee:  for arm based machines. that may very well be  true
[04:54] <gulzar> Wget help.I was using Scrapbook extension on Firefox to save pages I visit but Scrapbook cannot update those pages nor it can locally link them. I thought of using wget to make a local mirror of the pages I visit on Wikipedia along with local links. Which command to use? I tried [[ wget -p -k <link> ]] it saves the page but it doesn't look like the online-page. Any help. I will use it only for pages I visit.
[04:54] <ceptic> none apart from windows setup failed on some file whcih i cant rememer atm as in bios
[04:54] <pepee> ForSpareParts, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide
[04:54] <ceptic> virus warning is disabled in bios :S
[04:55] <ceptic> anthing else in bios which could cause this to happen?
[04:55] <zamba> how do i make ubuntu remember my mdadm setup?
[04:55] <pepee> ceptic, could be a failed windows install
[04:55] <dr_willis> ceptic:  bios Av protection - prevents writing to the MBR i belive. or restores the mbr if it changes. so you really dont want that enabled
[04:55] <zamba> recently i've seen ubuntu automatically creating raid devices at /dev/md_d0, but i want to use /dev/md0
[04:55] <Darkenvy> did anyone have a solution for my problem?
[04:55] <ceptic> its disabled tho :O  and xp worked fine earlyer :O
[04:55] <zamba> and every time i reboot, i have to stop and restart the raid
[04:55] <pepee> dr_willis, that shouldn't be, at least not when windows/the AV is not running
[04:55] <dr_willis> it could BE a virus in XP changeing the MBR. :)
[04:56] <pepee> dr_willis, yeah, that
[04:56] <ForSpareParts> pepee: thanks!
[04:56] <ceptic> it was a fresh install last year, after fresh install and new hard drive it sat in a cupboard and done nothing :O
[04:56] <Stramith> Hi
[04:56] <pepee> Darkenvy, ask again, please
[04:57] <pepee> ForSpareParts, btw, if you get a black screen after that, you need to remove a specific file  ( /etc/ati/amdpcsdb ) and reboot
[04:57] <Jordan_U> ceptic: Any chance of that video?
[04:57] <MrMalak> Who sent me that GRUB installer?
[04:58] <ceptic> sure 2mins needs to grab cable :D what is ata133raid?
[04:58] <Jordan_U> MrMalak: Me.
[04:58] <MrMalak> I would kiss you but you are a guy
[04:58] <dr_willis> if its a fresh install that hasent been used in a year..  makes me wonder why you need the xp anyway. :)
[04:58] <MrMalak> its working
[04:58] <Jordan_U> MrMalak: :)
[04:58] <ceptic> i dont need xp :P i want ubuntu server on there :D
[04:58] <pepee> I'd dd that disk for a couple seconds and reinstall it all :P
[04:58] <dr_willis> delete the xp partions. install server.. thst way it can only boot the  server. ;)
[04:59] <ceptic> normally you delete partitions through ubuntu tho?
[04:59] <dr_willis> dd it to death!
[04:59] <ceptic> i cant even get into ubuntu :S
[04:59] <dr_willis> delete them however you want
[04:59] <pepee> yeah, dd that XP
[04:59] <dr_willis> live gparted cd - my main disk management tool
[04:59] <Darkenvy> I am having problems installing gnome3. It looks like gnome-fallback
[04:59] <pepee> nah, just use the ubuntu liveCD
[05:00] <Darkenvy> I am selecting gnome not gnome-classic btw
[05:00] <ceptic> 2mins i might have a 9.0.1 disc of ubuntu somewhere and gonna grab data cable for phone
[05:00] <ceptic> brb
[05:00] <gulzar> Darkenvy: go to settings and about . turn OFF force fallback mode
[05:01] <gulzar> Darkenvy: and yes check if your system supports gnome-shell
[05:01] <hallow> Hello all, I've been trying to get my ps3 media server to stream but it freezes on one particular folder
[05:01] <Darkenvy> gnome-shell is what I initially installed
[05:01] <CHUPACABRAS> Arucard: yah
[05:01] <hallow> when I try to load a folder in my ps3 it just crashes but the rest go through fine
[05:01] <Arucard> Hello
[05:02] <Arucard> Hello CHUPACABRAS
[05:02] <hallow> Hi Arucard
[05:02] <CHUPACABRAS> hhi ppl
[05:02] <Arucard> hey hallow
[05:02] <Darkenvy> oh what package is "advanced settings" for gnome3?
[05:02] <pepee> wow the CHUPACABRAS in the IRC
[05:02] <Darkenvy> I have that on my desktop and this may be the settings panel you are referring to?
[05:02] <Arucard> CHUPACABRAS: my ass hurts ....
[05:03] <ceptic> ok i have ubuntu 9.0.4 :D and datacable :)
[05:03] <pepee> ceptic, so, you don't care anymore about win XP?
[05:03] <hallow> Hellsing Ultimate definitely one of the best Animes ever been waiting for the next episode for an eternity now though
[05:03] <ceptic> no want xp out the window :D
[05:03] <ceptic> hate it :D
[05:03] <gulzar> Darkenvy: click on top right on your usrname and settings
[05:03] <pepee> no need for your win/office keys?
[05:04] <Arucard> i just finished compiling my kernel,  Ubuntu 11.10
[05:04] <Arucard> i just finished compiling my kernel,  Ubuntu 11.10
[05:04] <Arucard> im a great coder
[05:04] <Darkenvy> I went down to details then graphics: "experience fallback" but no options or toggles
[05:04] <ceptic> i have cd key for xp if you want problem is its a mass key used at my work for setting up most of the machines on the network
[05:04] <gulzar> Arucard: Which kernel? version no.?
[05:04] <xclusive585> I didnt realize there was a Kernel 11.10
[05:05] <gulzar> Arucard: Mine is 3.7.7
[05:05] <hallow> Does anyone have ps3mediaserver?
[05:05] <xclusive585> I do I do
[05:05] <Darkenvy> oh I forgot to mention this is in a virtual environment of vmware fusion on OSX 10.7.4
[05:05] <Arucard> gulzar, had to switch 2 kernel 10.4, 10.11 was giving me probs
[05:05] <xclusive585> hallow :-) it rocks if you can get it running. It's not user friendly as a headless server
[05:06] <gulzar> Arucard: Ok. then keeep it up and enjoy
[05:06] <ceptic> its jumping right past ubuntu 9.0.4 right into windows screen where u choose bootnormal lastknownconfig etc
[05:06] <Arucard> yeahh guzar
[05:06] <gulzar> Arucard: it feels nice to have system in our own hands :)
[05:06] <kapz> Jordan_U, it's a laptop so only one disk drive...
[05:06] <Arucard> yeahh gulzar
[05:06] <hallow> xclusive585 it works for the rest of my stuff but for some reason it freezes on one of my folders
[05:06] <Arucard> yeahh gulzar, sure does, open source RULeeZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz
[05:06] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | kapz
[05:06] <Arucard> ehehehheheh
[05:07] <xclusive585> I had that issue. You most likely have a file in there that is slightly corrupt and ps3medaiserver's thumbnail generator freezes the program
[05:07] <Darkenvy> so is there no way to turn off fallback?
[05:08] <xclusive585> hallow: if you disable thumbnails, or previews, whatever it's called, it wont do that, otherwise you just need to figure out which file it is...
[05:08] <Darkenvy> how do I test to see if my system supports 'gnome-shell'? because that was the package I actually installed
[05:08] <gulzar> Darkenvy: there is. Click on your username on top right. then settings then about and then turn off "force fallback mode"
[05:08] <hallow> xclusive585 ohhh yea that might be it because I downloaded a couple of torrents onto my HDD and I'm trying to stream the yu yu hakusho I just got
[05:08] <reisio> Darkenvy: try running it :p
[05:08] <ceptic> mmmm i have ubuntu screen up for 9.0.4 is it possible to load the boot file for the other ubuntu from within this live cd?
[05:08] <Darkenvy> I clicked into "details" so thats not is then huh? :S
[05:09] <hallow> xclusive585 yea I'm prob going to start eliminating files but if it's the actual video file then I'm fucked lol
[05:09] <ceptic> should i install ubuntu or just run it off the live cd?
[05:09] <Darkenvy> there isnt a "about" but my option of "details" states "experience: fallback"
[05:09] <Darkenvy> and I DID log in with 'gnome' selected NOT gnome-classic
[05:10] <marfar> at ceptic install it
[05:10] <xclusive585> I've had video files that play fine, freeze up because of that thumbnail generator
[05:10] <marfar> it works much better
[05:10] <pepee> ceptic, do you know how to use the terminal/console?
[05:10] <ceptic> yeah :) not used for a while bit rusty
[05:11] <xclusive585> hallow: If you break the videos down into a few folders it will be easier to find out which one is broken.
[05:11] <ceptic> zomg think its froze :O FML
[05:11] <MrMalak> Jordan: are you still there?
[05:11] <Darkenvy> im assuming Im not able to have shiney gnome? :(
[05:11] <marfar> what froze?
[05:11] <gulzar> Darkenvy: umm please check if your system supports gnome-shell. And yes there is a way to fallback. i did it many times. Please look carefully. If its postion is changes you can ask on #gnome
[05:12] <hallow> xclusive585 all of my movies/anime are in individual folders for each title (I'm a neat freak with that stuff) and I did disable the thumbnails but it still froze I think it might be my subtitles file or something
[05:12] <ceptic> install of ubuntu pressed enter like 50 times now and now the menu wont move up or down
[05:12] <ceptic> FML
[05:12] <reisio> FYL
[05:12] <gulzar> Darkenvy: I will suggest ask on #gnome
[05:12] <marfar> give it time to think
[05:12] <gulzar> Darkenvy: " /j #gnome "
[05:12] <Darkenvy> I originally posted on #gnome before I came here
[05:12] <ceptic> normally it just goes ahead and starts the installation
[05:12] <hallow> xclusive585 is it possible that the fact that my torrent program is connected to the files currently could also be a problem or is that irrelevant
[05:12] <hallow> ?
[05:12] <gulzar> Darkenvy: :( . Wait.. I will see
[05:12] <Darkenvy> ^^
[05:13] <marfar> what screen is it stuck on?
[05:13] <gulzar> Darkenvy: gnome3.4?
[05:13] <ceptic> got error code no saying i/o error  error reading boot cd
[05:13] <ceptic> b042809f
[05:14] <Darkenvy> I am not entirely sure
[05:14] <marfar> that sound like a bad cd.  Can you make a bootable usb stick?
[05:14] <Darkenvy> I installed3.4.1
[05:14] <Darkenvy> yes
[05:14] <gulzar> Darkenvy: which ubuntu?
[05:14] <xclusive585> hallow, totally possible, but not probable
[05:14] <Darkenvy> ubuntu12.04
[05:14] <ceptic> been trying all night no bootable usb will work tryed around 50 different programs haha
[05:15] <hallow> xclusive585 ah
[05:15] <marfar> from windows right?
[05:15] <ceptic> yeah
[05:15] <ceptic> windox 7
[05:15] <dr_willis> if the iso file is currupted that may make sence ceptic
[05:15] <ceptic> *windows
[05:15] <xclusive585> hallow: most likely, there is simply one corrupt video file
[05:15] <gulzar> Darkenvy: Open gnome-control-center. Click the System Info icon. Click Graphics. Change Forced Fallback Mode to OFF
[05:15] <ceptic> so shall i try and redownload ubuntu server iso and reburn to disc?
[05:15] <gulzar> Darkenvy: they changed the position.. but its there
[05:15] <ceptic> see if that helps?
[05:16] <marfar> try copying the iso onto a usb sick and then creating a booteble usb stick from the live cd
[05:16] <dr_willis> ceptic: why are you using the server cd? the desktop cd can  provide services also
[05:16] <ceptic> how do i do that?
[05:16] <marfar> sorry about my spelling
[05:16] <gulzar> ceptic: tried dd?
[05:16] <ceptic> dd?
[05:16] <gulzar> Darkenvy: Done?
[05:16] <hallow> xclusive585: yea there is and it's in one of the episodes but I'm going to have to figure out another day because that's about 200 episodes I have to go through to find a potential corrupt video file lol I'm going to have to call it a night on this endeavor
[05:16] <Darkenvy> yes gnome-control-center is where I was
[05:16] <marfar> in ubuntu there is a program called startup disk creator
[05:17] <xclusive585> all in one folder! wow
[05:17] <gulzar> ceptic: [[ dd if=<iso> of=<usb> ]]
[05:17] <dr_willis> ceptic:  you can image the iso file straight to the flash. no extra tools. it does limit what else you can do with the flash. but its the most foolproof way.
[05:17] <Darkenvy> there isnt a system info, but there is a "detailes" tab
[05:17] <hallow> xclusive585 well yea because it was the yu yu hakusho collection so it downloaded all the sagas in one bulk I didn't get to organize them yet
[05:17] <ceptic> but wont i need to be in ubunto first?
[05:17] <xclusive585> hallow: if you have a file browser that can produce thumbnails for you, that may give away the culprit easier
[05:17] <marfar> well use the live cd
[05:17] <Darkenvy> within the details tab there is "graphics" and within that pane it states "experience: fallback". This is just text and is not a toggle or option
[05:17] <dr_willis> ceptic:  in windows theres some imageing tools that can image teh iso straight to flash. You might need to rename the isoo to whatever.img for some of them to work
[05:18] <dr_willis> ceptic:  i may  have one bookmarked at delicious.com/dr_willis
[05:19] <ceptic> mmm live cd is booting, but install doesnt work =/
[05:19] <gulzar> Darkenvy: bang.. now what to do? Please check your installation of gnome-shell. Reinstall and reboot .
[05:19] <ceptic> wtf?
[05:19] <hallow> xclusive585: true I'm just going to watch something else though I'll give it a run tomorrow thanks for everything I really appreciate it
[05:19] <gulzar> ceptic: can do dd from anywhere.. live cd or any other distro
[05:19] <Darkenvy> I just installed it moments ago before I came into IRC
[05:19] <dr_willis> ceptic:  if you are getting read/write/io errors - then  theres issues..
[05:19] <hallow> good night all!!
[05:19] <Darkenvy> its as fresh as its going to get. this install of ubuntu is also fresh as of this hour
[05:19] <gulzar> ceptic: one more thing.. you don't need to burn iso . If grub2 is installed you can boot iso directly with that
[05:20] <charlse>  
[05:20] <gulzar> ceptic: or with grub legacy also with some tweak
[05:20] <Darkenvy> it IS in a virtual machine (as stated above) would this limit some 3D settings forcing gnome into fallback?
[05:20] <ceptic> as weird as this sounds the livecd has actually loaded but it wont install :S?
[05:20] <marfar> it happens.
[05:20] <MrMalak> I still want to see the install of linux going to an install of windows, that would be a great video to post on youtube
[05:21] <gulzar> Darkenvy: 99.9% . There is a veryl ittle sucess for gnome-shell in VB. I didn't know that you are running in VB
[05:21] <dr_willis> Darkenvy:  if  grub3 thinks you dont have 3d support... it could default back to the  fallback. i belive.
[05:21] <dr_willis> oops gnome-3 ;)
[05:21] <ceptic> haha :P 2mins soon as i get ubuntu server up and running ill get video sorted need to get server on asap :O
[05:21] <xisor> where is xorg.conf in 12.04?
[05:21] <Darkenvy> I see. my choice for the VB was PURELY due to the lack of drivers for the macbook-pro 13"
[05:21] <gulzar> Darkenvy: you need some extra work which I never did. i tried gnome-shell but it was not that responsive as my Openbox
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> xisor: same place it always is
[05:21] <gulzar> dr_willis: yup
[05:21] <ceptic> so ive got ubuntu live open? how do i go about setting up server edition? files are already on flash drive?
[05:22] <dr_willis> MrMalak:  most likely theres some allready on youtube
[05:22] <ceptic> can i just load them from there?
[05:22] <xisor> ActionParsnip: /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesnt exist for me
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> xisor: Ubuntu doesn't ship with one by default, but if you make one it will be obeyed
[05:22] <Darkenvy> unless you guys know more about macintosh hardware drivers :)…. ?
[05:22] <xisor> ok
[05:22] <dr_willis> ceptic:  id just get a working desktop install going. ;)
[05:22] <xisor> ActionParsnip: so i can tell nvidia config to save to it even tho it cant find it?
[05:22] <xisor> ActionParsnip: for my custom settings?
[05:22] <xclusive585> ceptic, I didn't know you could install server edition from a live cd.?
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> xisor: if you drop to root recovery mode you can run: Xorg -configure    to generate a skeleton file
[05:22] <Darkenvy> but thank you for your help gulzar. dr_willis, do you suppose messing with grub could solve the problem?
[05:22] <dr_willis> xclusive585:  yyou cant.  as far as i know
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> xisor: if you run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    one will be made
[05:23] <gulzar> Darkenvy: If you have a big USB. Then rsync your setup to it. Then repair grub2 and fstab. And finnaly do all your play on it. without breaking orginal setup
[05:23] <dr_willis> Darkenvy:  grub is not related to video  issues normally
[05:23] <xisor> ActionParsnip: nvidia x server ui has an option to save my settings to xorg.conf
[05:23] <xisor> ActionParsnip: is it safe to do that so it remembers my custom resolution?
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> xisor: yes, you will need to run:  gksudo nvidia-settings
[05:23] <kapz> ok meanwhile, can someone tell me the steps to install grub on a bios partition of GPT?
[05:23] <gulzar> Darkenvy: grub2 has nothing to do with it. Its VB and gnome-shell problem.
[05:23] <xisor> ActionParsnip: it asked me for my password after i told it to save
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> xisor: so that the app is running as root and will have write access to /etc/X11
[05:24] <xisor> ActionParsnip: so i dont think gksudo is required?
[05:24] <Darkenvy> Okay. Well thank you for letting me know where the issue lies.
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> xisor: yes or the app will run as user and not have access
[05:24] <Woofy> I need assistaance
[05:24] <dr_willis> i think the  nvidia-settings tool now can unlock and gain root access.. but i tend to do use gksudo nvidia-settings  out of old habbit]
[05:24] <gulzar> Darkenvy: I keep one backup on USB and play with new apps on it. If good then copy the cache to original setup and install it there :)
[05:25] <Woofy> I need a Wifi driver but have no way of getting it on ubuntu
[05:25] <MrMalak> So it looks like Jordan was right, I used the grub version of the installer he sent me and its working on this older sony viao if any one else comes in here pulling hair out over it.
[05:25] <Darkenvy> okay ill try that :)
[05:25] <Darkenvy> OMG!!
[05:25] <Darkenvy> idea
[05:25] <xisor> ActionParsnip: it asked for my root password when i told it to save, i gave it, and it wrote an xorg.conf for me
[05:25] <gulzar> Darkenvy: whay?
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> xisor: there is no root pass in Ubuntu
[05:25] <ceptic> sorry was away plugging mouse in got 2 mice between 10computers lol
[05:26] <ceptic> so is it possible to load the boot file for server from live cd?
[05:26] <Woofy> I need a Wifi driver but have no way of getting it on ubuntu
[05:26] <dr_willis> ceptic:  i think NO.
[05:26] <Woofy> please pm for help
[05:26] <ceptic> ah ok
[05:26] <gulzar> Darkenvy: what idea you got?
[05:26] <Darkenvy> im going to try it before saying it because its retardedly simple XD
[05:26] <xisor> ok now i have 1 more problem, my HDMI audio isnt working
[05:27] <xisor> can anyone help me?
[05:27] <gulzar> Darkenvy: Ok
[05:27] <Darkenvy> I enabled 3D acceleration for the vm, but I do doubt it will work :\
[05:27] <Darkenvy> :O
[05:27] <Darkenvy> Oh my ubuntu!
[05:27] <Woofy> is there a way to get the broadcom wifi drivers without an internet connection?
[05:27] <gulzar> Darkenvy: pffffff Dear you should check your settings before launching VM. :(
[05:28] <dr_willis> Woofy:  download them from a differnt box. put them on flash. move them over.
[05:28] <xclusive585> darkenvy: LOL I made that my sig on my other forum
[05:28] <xisor> can anyone help me get my hdmi audio working?
[05:28] <Darkenvy> VMware fusion 4.1.2 ubuntu12 with gnome3 works with 3D acceleration enabled
[05:28] <anuvrat> hi folks
[05:28] <Woofy> Im not tech savy please explain in PM
[05:28] <Darkenvy> hahah thats great xclusive585
[05:28] <dr_willis> xisor:  i recall having to twiddle with the pavmixer app. once to get mine going. but i dont recall the exxact binary  name
[05:29] <xclusive585> xisor: that could very likely require proprietary drivers that may or may not be available through ubuntu. It will depend on your specific HDMI device
[05:29] <xisor> dr_willis: is it used by default by ubuntu?
[05:29] <xisor> xclusive585: its an intel atom nettop with nvidia ion graphics
[05:29] <anuvrat> I am getting a connection refused while trying to ssh into my desktop running kubuntu, can I get some insights please
[05:29] <dr_willis> xisor:  hdmi audio works for me. but it may depend on the chipset
[05:29] <Darkenvy> lol gulzar, perhaps I should. tis funny how complex our solutions can be for such a simple fix
[05:29] <xisor> xclusive585: im pretty sure its supported
[05:29] <xisor> xclusive585: no idea how to fix it
[05:29] <dr_willis> !find pavcontrol
[05:29] <ceptic> see when you said desktop has same as sever, whats the differnce?
[05:30] <xclusive585> if it's supported than settings, volume settings, etc are going to be the route to look at
[05:30] <dr_willis> i can never rember thename sof the pulse tools
[05:30] <Darkenvy> Alright guys! thanks again, im out :D
[05:30] <dr_willis> theres some extra more advanced pulse mixer. and controll tools in the repos also
[05:30] <xisor> xclusive585: can you help me? i checked my audio settins, it shows hdmi output but has NO sound, and it isnt muted
[05:30] <Woofy> Im not tech savy please explain in PM?
[05:30] <gulzar> Darkenvy: Yup :D
[05:30] <TheDrums> dr_willis: pavucontrol
[05:30] <xclusive585> xisor: on any machine, you often need to specify the audio device to output sound to, and HDMI is usually not default
[05:30] <legend2440> !pavucontrol
[05:31] <dr_willis> xisor:  i also found it weird. that i had no sound on my hdmi. till i messed with the mixers,, then got annoyed and rebooted and it started working. ;) go figure.
[05:31] <xisor> do i need to run it as gksudo?
[05:31] <dr_willis> xisor:  should not need to be ran as root
[05:32] <undecim> Is there a tool that will fix a windows 7/Vista MBR from Linux?
[05:32] <dr_willis> xisor:  try pavucontrol like was mentioned
[05:32] <dr_willis> undecim:  check the disrtowatch site for repair  live cds they may have such tools.
[05:32] <xisor> no sound
[05:33] <xisor> dr_willis: even with pavucontrol, it shows the hdmi, but has no sound
[05:33] <dr_willis> xisor:  all i did was twiddle with mine.. and suddendly it started working.  No idea what i did. ;)
[05:34] <dr_willis> pavcontrol and i think pavmixer is what i used
[05:34] <xisor> dr_willis: nothing is working
[05:35] <dr_willis> i got no magic answers xisor  - all i did was mess with them  tools.
[05:35] <xisor> whats the command to grep my audio thing to see if it even has the right device found?
[05:35] <xisor> lspci something
[05:35] <xisor> but i dont remember
[05:35] <dr_willis> !alsa
[05:36] <dr_willis> i forget also..
[05:36] <dr_willis> lspci shows all the  devices. but thers some  command  to show what audio cards iyou an select
[05:38] <gulzar> some help me. I want to download Wiki pages for offline view but only those which I visit (eg: grub, gome, fstab etc. ) . Tried wget -k -p <link> . But the downloaded one doesn't look like the online version. It displays only text. If tried [[ whet -k -p -m <link> ]] then all other languages are also downlaoded. I want only pages in "en" linked locally
[05:39] <xisor> my sound devices are listed, but nothing seems to fix it
[05:42] <Drecondius> Can someone point me to a website that has a fairly recent list of wireless hardware compatible with linux? I have googled, and googled till I just can't do it any more.
[05:42] <xisor> can anybody help me fix my sound?
[05:42] <randi> howdy everyone
[05:43] <MrMalak> Drecondius: Are you trying to find out if your hardware is or just trying to find hardware to buy?
[05:43] <Drecondius> MrMalak: Hardware to buy, specifically Wireless N adapters
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> xisor: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[05:44] <MrMalak> Drecondius: From what I know which isn't a lot the name brand hardware like linksys tends to be supported but I am not an expert but I hope that helps heh
[05:45] <pepee> Drecondius, linuxwireless.org ?
[05:45] <xisor> do i need to run that as sudo?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> xisor: run the command as it, it will work
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> Drecondius: linuxhcl.org
[05:46] <xisor> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6f6cee4501ab4341dde9d54a4f8d5908b16961c2
[05:46] <xisor> ActionParsnip:
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> xisor: upload to the server and a URL will be generated
[05:46] <xisor> ActionParsnip: i already pasted the url http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6f6cee4501ab4341dde9d54a4f8d5908b16961c2
[05:46] <xisor> ActionParsnip: can you not see it?
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> xisor: the first time was blank
[05:47] <Drecondius> I've been trying in vain to get my bcm4323 based adapter to work and it simply won't so i have to find something else :D
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> xisor: are you using hdmi sound, or normal speakers?
[05:48] <pepee> Drecondius, not sure, but IIRC you have to install some firmware for those broadcom
[05:48] <xisor> im trying to use hdmi sound
[05:48] <Drecondius> I can't get the firmware without internet connection :(
[05:48] <RiXtEr-Home> Drecondius, how are you on the internet right now?
[05:48] <pepee> Drecondius, try using a cable, or downloading the packages manually
[05:48] <Drecondius> Sadly my cat5 was found and eaten by the dog.
[05:49] <pepee> Drecondius, or a cellphone
[05:49] <Drecondius> Via the very wireless adapter that doesnt' work in linux
[05:49] <RiXtEr-Home> Drecondius, download the firmware, transfer it to a flash drive, boot up ubuntu and update it?
[05:49] <Drecondius> I'm in a virtual machine using a bridged connection
[05:50] <studio> My sound quit working in ubuntu studio 12.04
[05:50] <Drecondius> the virtual machine has no access to the card though. and I can't find any windows tools to do so
[05:50] <studio> I can port jack and hear my guitar while recording , but my rendered projects and such won't play, and I get no sound in youtube.
[05:50] <Drecondius> Otherwise i'd have dumped win a while back
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> xisor: if you run alsamixer in terminal are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[05:50] <studio> no sound from mp3's
[05:50] <xisor> ActionParsnip: let me check
[05:50] <pepee> Drecondius, is it an usb card?
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> xisor: in sound options, is the hdmi selected as the output?
[05:51] <pepee> Drecondius, http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[05:51] <xisor> ActionParsnip: in pavucontrol or the default one?
[05:51] <Drecondius> Yup, and as fate would have it linuxwireless.org says to use ndiswrapper and that fails.
[05:51] <xisor> ActionParsnip: they are unmuted in alsamixer as far as i can tell
[05:51] <Drecondius> the hardware shows up with lsusb
[05:52] <xisor> ActionParsnip: HDMI is selected in sound settings
[05:52] <pepee> Drecondius, USB? you can use virtualbox and attach it to the vm
[05:52] <Drecondius> nidiswrapper -l shows the driver installed and active
[05:52] <xisor> ActionParsnip: testing sound does nothing, playing something with sound has no sound
[05:52] <Drecondius> yet the network manager doesn't show it
[05:52] <Drecondius> Perhaps a different network manager?
[05:53] <mister_m> does anyone know why when I plug in a monitor to my computer without nvidia drivers it works, and with them it does not?
[05:53] <pepee> Drecondius, oh, it is not supported :/
[05:53] <Drecondius> nope
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> xisor: if you press F6 in alsamixer, is the hdmi set there too?
[05:53] <Drecondius> not at all it would seem
[05:53] <pepee> Drecondius, tried the x86 or amd64 drivers?
[05:53] <Drecondius> both
[05:53] <pepee> Drecondius, also, XP, win7... ?
[05:53] <xisor> ActionParsnip: yes
[05:53] <Drecondius> the x86 drivers are all ummmm ..........
[05:53] <Drecondius> Win7
[05:54] <Drecondius> I can't seem to get ahold of xp drivers
[05:54] <pepee> Drecondius, well, try to run it from a liveCD
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> xisor: ok, well my sound troubleshooting is poor as I've never had to fix sound. Keep that URL and use it to ask the channel now and / or later :)
[05:54] <Drecondius> I had this card working in the 8.xx era
[05:54] <xisor> ActionParsnip: =(
[05:54] <xisor> ActionParsnip: its not showing in alsa mixer any alaog sound devices at all, will one show up if i plug in speakers?
[05:54] <xisor> ActionParsnip: i could switch to speakers for now
[05:55] <xisor> ActionParsnip: until i can get hdmi fixed
[05:55] <Drecondius> but it doesn't seem to want to function with 12
[05:56] <xisor> can someone help me fix my sound please?
[05:57] <ceptic> guys think i may have fix to my problem early belive the machien is using a cdrom drive and ive been using dvds lolz im so stupid hopefully cd will work :D
[05:57] <pepee> Drecondius, that's sad...
[05:57] <Drecondius> Indeed
[05:58] <pepee> Drecondius, look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604868
[05:58] <Drecondius> I can only assume that it was a change in the Kernel
[05:58] <MrMalak> lol let us know ceptic, I still want a video of trying to install linux and geting windows :P
[05:59] <vknt> hello all...
[05:59] <ceptic> ;) dont worry buddy just need to copy it across dont have a youtube account tho know any other website?
[05:59] <ceptic> which i dont need to sign up
[05:59] <vknt> Can wayland completely replace Xorg server in ubuntu 12.10
[05:59] <Drecondius> STA drivers are fail as well :( I'm considering just changing adapters with my roomies. after all they don't use linux.
[06:00] <tissi> hi
[06:00] <tissi> so uh
[06:00] <xisor> any linux experts that can help me get sound from my hdmi?
[06:00] <vknt> Can any one help to clear my questions....
[06:00] <tissi> how do i "add shell in list /bin/false"
[06:00] <MrMalak> I had issues in windows with geting sound from HDMI good luck :P
[06:00] <pepee> Drecondius, http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=97610&p=557102
[06:01] <diwic> xisor, http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2012/04/14/audio-over-hdmi-and-displayport-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[06:01] <vknt> plzz help me for wayland......
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> xisor: could even try disabling the onboard sound card in BIOS, forcing HDMI audio...
[06:02] <pepee> vknt, #ubuntu+1
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> vknt: in what way?
[06:02] <xisor> ActionParsnip: wont disabling onboard turn off hdmi sound too?
[06:02] <randi> feels nice to be back on ubuntu
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> xisor: afaik, no but its worth a try
[06:02] <pepee> vknt, also, I don't think canonical supports wayland yet
[06:03] <dr_willis> from what i gather - wayland is very very much a work in progress
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> vknt: Quantal is not supported here until it is released
[06:03] <Drecondius> ActionParsnip : If the hdmi sound is coming from a videocard it's not going to work anyways. Neither Nvidia nor AMD have written that Into the kernel drivers for linux.
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> Drecondius: hdmi audio does work in Linux
[06:04] <xisor> so i cant get hdmi sound from an nvidia card?
[06:04] <xisor> im confused:(
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> xisor: yes, it will just take effort
[06:04] <pepee> xisor, run alsamixer
[06:04] <dr_willis> hdmiout from my nvidia card is working.
[06:04] <xisor> pepee: and do what in alsamixer?
[06:04] <fr500> xisor: what chipset?
[06:05] <xisor> fr500: nvidia MCP79 HDMI
[06:05] <pepee> xisor, press F2
[06:05] <xisor> MCP79/7A
[06:05]  * dr_willis played witht he pav/mixer tools.. then rebooted.. and it suddendly started orking. ;) much  to my suprise
[06:05] <fr500> so it's an ION board?
[06:05] <vknt> k thanks to all..
[06:05] <xisor> fr500: it is
[06:05] <xisor> fr500: intel atom and nvidia ion
[06:05] <xisor> fr500: nvidia drivers are installed and working
[06:06] <xisor> fr500: hdmi is being used as my video source too
[06:06] <ceptic> fml trying to find god dam file on stupd htc phone it shoves everything everywhere
[06:06] <ceptic> and gives it wrong dates and time
[06:06] <ceptic> s
[06:06] <xisor> pepee: what am i lookking for after pressing F2?
[06:06] <pepee> xisor, what cards you got
[06:07] <dr_willis> My Nvidia GF108 audio is working over hdmi.  The forums or the askubuntu.com site may have some tiops for your exact chippset xisor
[06:07] <pepee> xisor, also, to check if you can change some settings
[06:07] <fr500> xisor: all should be fixable from the sound control panel
[06:07] <xisor> pepee: nvidia MCP79/7A for hdmi and realtek ALC662 for the analog output, but im not wanting to use the analog output, and it works anyways
[06:07] <pepee> xisor, press F6
[06:08] <fr500> xisor: http://www.momentaryfascinations.com/technology/getting.7.1.hdmi.audio.working.under.ubuntu.html
[06:09] <ceptic> having few technical problems accessing the video guys can find it on my phone but not showing up in file mager on pc :P
[06:09] <ceptic> *:O
[06:09] <xisor> fr500: looking
[06:09] <xisor> pepee: and if you want a much easier way to see what sound devices someone has have them aplay -l
[06:09] <dr_willis> hdmi 7.1 - hmm. how do you get the sound from the hdmi cable for that? I got my hdmi going into my PC monitor that just has stero speakers. so im not even sure how you would get the sound out to some other  devices
[06:11] <fr500> dr_willis: howto still applies
[06:11] <fr500> dr_willis: he probably needs to map the correct channels
[06:11] <xisor> fr500: this information isnt valid for the new ubuntu, i dont have the dropdown boxes its talking about
[06:12] <dr_willis> im just curious how its even doable. unless  some monitors have some sort of output to my bigger stero system. ;)
[06:13] <fr500> dr_willis: most of the time you connect to a receiver, the receiver does the 7.1 output it has nother hdmi output to get to your tv
[06:13] <xiambax> Is there anyone who works for canonical directly. I have an idea like OLPC but with smart phones that boot to desktop. Give people connectivity outside of their homes.
[06:13] <pepee> xisor, did you press F6 in alsamixer?
[06:13] <ceptic> zomg new cd ust keeps saying pressa key to reboot
[06:13] <ceptic> nothing happening :O
[06:13] <xisor> pepee: i did, why?
[06:13] <fr500> xiambax: www.canonical.com and http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[06:13] <studio> Guys, I can hear sound from jack, but not my music players or the internet.  Do you know what's up?
[06:13] <dr_willis> fr500:  ok then. Never seen one of thos enewer recievers then. ;)
[06:13] <pepee> xisor, you can select the hdmi output from there
[06:13] <pepee> s/output/settings/
[06:14] <xisor> pepee: it is already selected, and it still doesnt work
[06:14] <pepee> ah, k, sorry
[06:14] <indy3> fuck
[06:14] <xisor> fr500: that information doesnt work for the new ubuntu
[06:14] <indy3> shit
[06:14] <FloodBot1> indy3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:14] <xisor> fr500: none of the things its showing are there
[06:14] <dr_willis> xisor:  i recall having to restart the pulse audio server once afer messing with siome settings to get it working,.
[06:14] <indy3> http://pastebin.com/vv5xHw1n
[06:15] <xisor> dr_willis: how do i do that?
[06:15] <dr_willis> sudo service whatgever restart
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> xisor: kilall pulseaudio
[06:15] <dr_willis> or just reboot. ;)
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> oops
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> killall pulseaudio
[06:15] <dr_willis> with all the twiddling youve done.. its hard to tell what state the system is in
[06:15] <xisor> ok,, and how do i restart it? ActionParsnip
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> xisor: it will restart itself after a little while
[06:16] <indy3> anyone know someone that can ban your ip from the entire freenode irc until you chance you mac and reset in 5 seconds?
[06:16] <indy3> change
[06:16] <indy3> fuckers
[06:16] <indy3> mwuahaha
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> indy3: what is the point?
[06:17] <xisor> ok pulse audio restarted and hdmi audio STILL isnt working
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Inc`: try #ubuntu-ops or #freenode
[06:17] <fr500> xisor: if I had the hardware I guess I could be more helpful...but I sold my ion board
[06:18] <pepee> xisor, I remember I had to change the default card a while ago, but I don't remember how :(
[06:18] <dr_willis> there may be threds about the ion in the forums also.
[06:18] <dr_willis> or askubuntu.com - i own no ions either
[06:19] <fr500> xisor: install pulseaudio-utils
[06:19] <pepee> xisor, this file: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc
[06:19] <fr500> and there are some tools there that might be helpful... but alsamixer should be the one I guess
[06:20] <pijush> banshee crashing a lot, way to out, plz
[06:20] <xisor> pepee: i have no idea what to do with that info
[06:20] <xisor> fr500:  pulseaudio-utils is already installed and newest version
[06:20] <fr500> what's the output of aplay -l?
[06:21] <mi3> HI GUYS!!
[06:21] <ictxiangxin> hello?
[06:21] <xisor> fr500: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012666/
[06:21] <mi3> can someone suggest which music player is that ? http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=61449&d=1204549723
[06:21] <ictxiangxin> I just connect the  port 8001
[06:22] <jagginess> mi3, that url requires credentials
[06:22] <Unknown0BC> Hi, I am using nethogs to monitor bandwidth usuage on my broadband connection, but need something to see all data in and out in a session. Which program can I use for that ? ( using ocelot )
[06:22] <mi3> jagginess, err ok, I will give you a screenshot of that :D
[06:22] <xisor> ALC662 digital is spdif fr500
[06:22] <jagginess> Unknown0BC, it'll be alot*.. you dont want to do that..
[06:23] <fr500> so you need to make it default to the 3rd one?
[06:23] <mi3> jagginess, http://imagebin.org/214271
[06:23] <xisor> fr500: yes, and i need it to work
[06:23] <jagginess> Unknown0BC, monitor any "errors" and warnings in service logs..
[06:23] <xisor> analog works, but hdmi has no sound
[06:24] <fidel_> ahoi
[06:24] <fr500> there was a pulseaudio gui tool to select the sink...
[06:24] <Unknown0BC> kppp use to have a monitor which shows max data min with a graph and all data in and out. Something like that I need.
[06:24] <Unknown0BC> But kppp is not what a prefer to connect with.
[06:24] <xisor> fr500:  is it pavucontrol? if so i tried it and stil get no sound when its set to hdmi
[06:24] <jagginess> mi3, probably xmms with a thin skin
[06:25] <mi3> jagginess, xmms ? sure ?
[06:25] <fr500> yes pavucontrol
[06:25] <fr500> hmmm
[06:25] <xisor> fr500: doesnt work
[06:25] <xisor> fr500: ive also tried rebooting, doesnt fix it
[06:26] <fr500> and what about the built in sound control?
[06:26] <jagginess> mi3, you know what a "skin" (there can be many-- the outline looks like xmms)
[06:26] <mi3> jagginess, I do.... ok, thank you, sir, for recognizing that :D
[06:26] <jagginess> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmms
[06:26] <xisor> i tried that first fr500 , didnt work
[06:26] <dr_willis> other players can use xmms skins also i recall
[06:26] <mi3> jagginess, I like this http://www.xmms.org/
[06:27] <fr500> xisor: are all your packages up to date?
[06:27] <dr_willis> !xmms
[06:27] <reisio> mi3: audacious
[06:27] <wiherek23> hi
[06:27] <reisio> hi
[06:27] <xisor> fr500: considering i just did a full upate after my install, yes
[06:27] <mi3> reisio, what ?
[06:27] <fr500> xisor:
[06:27] <jagginess> mi3, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audacious_%28software%29
[06:27] <reisio> mi3: it's probably audacious
[06:27] <jagginess> mi3, "Audacious began as a fork of Beep Media Player, which was a fork of XMMS. "
[06:28] <mi3> ok
[06:28] <jagginess> mi3, which may help to explain why they look similar
[06:28] <xisor> ill sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y  just to be sure, but i already did it
[06:28] <fr500> xisor: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[06:28] <ceptic> is it possible to setup domain system like with windows server on ubuntu?
[06:28] <reisio> and xmms2 isn't a fork or a version bump :p
[06:28] <xisor> fr500: ok after my update check finishes ill do that
[06:28] <dr_willis> more forks then supper at a fancy resrstant
[06:28] <xisor> fully updated
[06:29] <coder2> Hello. Please help me to keep audio devices in order. They're swapping randomly on each boot.
[06:29] <wiherek23> how can I reinstall ubuntu from a chroot environment on Live CD? I have my old system installed, but due to some mistake I made (remove udev), almost all packages are uninstalled.
[06:29] <xisor> fr500: no sound
[06:29] <xisor> fr500: it played but nothing
[06:29] <fr500> ok now run nano .asoundrc
[06:29] <mi3> I'll go for audacious, it looks awesome, thank you !!
[06:29] <wiherek23> should I just go with 'apt-get update' 'apt-get upgrade?
[06:29] <xisor> fr500: .asoundrc is empty, did i need to do that as sudo?
[06:29] <fr500> no
[06:29] <fr500> and paste this
[06:29] <fr500> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012673/
[06:30] <xisor> fr500: done, what now?
[06:30] <fr500> and try playing again
[06:30] <xisor> fr500: same thing, no sound
[06:30] <fr500> ok maybe it's just muted
[06:31] <xisor> fr500: not that i can tell in any of the 3 audio control panels ive used
[06:31] <fr500> alsamixer is the one
[06:31] <xisor> what does it look like if its muted?
[06:31] <fr500> can you print a screenshot of your alsamixer?
[06:33] <xisor> fr500: http://i.imgur.com/oBstF.png
[06:33] <jagginess> xisor, well we sure can't hear anything
[06:33] <ubuntu_> how can I reinstall ubuntu from a chroot environment on Live CD? I have my old system installed, but due to some mistake I made (remove udev), almost all packages are uninstalled
[06:33] <fr500> xisor: I think spdif 1 is muted
[06:33] <xisor> spdif isnt the output im using
[06:33] <xisor> fr500: how do i unmute it anyways?
[06:34] <jagginess> ubuntu_, easier to backup home and re-install from scratch (wipe out linux partition after backing up user home)..
[06:34] <fr500> it might be mislabeled
[06:34] <fr500> xisor: I don't remember just move to the right and hit enter or space
[06:34] <xisor> fr500: neither one does anything
[06:34] <fr500> M?
[06:34] <xisor> fr500: that worked, what now?
[06:35] <fr500> open another terminal and try to play the sound
[06:35] <wiherek> jagginess: have issues with that. I have RAID1 set up via BIOS and another system on it. Now the installer errors out saying it cant create a swap partition
[06:35] <coder2> Hello. Does anyone know how to prevent audio devices from being random-ordered?
[06:35] <xisor> fr500: it works! and is extremely distorted lol
[06:35] <zamba> i'm looking for a tool to monitor my hard drive temperature and then alert if it goes above a certain level
[06:35] <fr500> well level might be to high
[06:35] <jagginess> wiherek, are you using dmraid or mdadm ?
[06:35] <xisor> fr500: adjust it in alsamixer?
[06:35] <fr500> no use the ubuntu one I guess
[06:36] <fr500> maybe the soundfile is bad quality or something
[06:36] <fr500> and maybe it was just muted all the time
[06:36] <fidel_> zamba: if you like to mess around nagios could do that - but its heavily overdosed for such tasks as its more designed to monitor several services & co in bigger networks
[06:36] <xisor> fr500: why was it mislabeled? and why on earth would it have been muted?
[06:36] <wiherek> jagginess: neither I guess. I didn't set RAID from Linux
[06:36] <fr500> xisor: no clue
[06:37] <xisor> fr500: ty so much!
[06:37] <fr500> xisor: np
[06:37] <xisor> fr500: now to figure out how to get 5.1 out of the thing
[06:37] <xisor> fr500: oh boy here we go again
[06:37] <wiherek> jagginess: should I install dmraid?
[06:37] <jagginess> wiherek, how many drives you have?
[06:37] <jagginess> wiherek, btw..
[06:37] <tennis> How do I fix this please?  gnome : Depends: ekiga (>= 3.2) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[06:37] <fr500> xisor: do you have a receiver?
[06:37] <xisor> fr500: should i restart and make sure it still works?
[06:37] <xisor> fr500: i do, and it has hdmi 1.4 on it
[06:38] <xisor> fr500: its an onkio
[06:38] <Drecondius> Ok, so I traded wifi adapters with a roomate. Had to boot into live-usb with nomodeset, same happens with it on a cd, If I have it download drivers during the install, will I still have to add nomodeset to options to have it boot?
[06:38] <fr500> xisor: yes it's better that way I guess and maybe it's working already
[06:38] <fr500> you never know
[06:38] <wiherek> two hard drives with 4 partitions on each (ext4, swap, and two ntfs partitions created by xp)
[06:38] <jagginess> wiherek, um.. since you don't know.. you're definitely not aware that most motherboards have a cheap raid called "fakeraid".. you might as well use mdadm --- but to use mdadm on install, you need the server iso (which has desktop as well)
[06:38] <xisor> fr500: ill restart, brb
[06:38] <zamba> fidel_: that seems like overkill, yeah
[06:38] <jagginess> wiherek, that um..
[06:39] <jagginess> wiherek, are you using a real raid card or not?
[06:39] <mi3> jagginess, AUDACIOUS IS AWESOME !! THANKYOU, AND OTHERS FOR THIS SUGGESTION !!
[06:39] <wiherek> I dont think I have a standalone raid controller
[06:39] <wiherek> is it relevant atm?
[06:40] <fidel_> zamba: most likely yes ;)
[06:40] <pokkoroidi> can't get X running while using xen-kernel... what might be the problem ?
[06:40] <jagginess> mi3, dunno.. it was reisio who said it.. there must be other forks of xmms as well to check out.. i personally like rhythmbox..
[06:40] <wiherek> if thats any help, the installer shows me partitions from both drives
[06:40] <wiherek> (but I can only access one from ubuntu)
[06:40] <jagginess> wiherek, um..
[06:40] <mi3> jagginess, yeah, THATS WHY I SAID "OTHERS" in that comment :D
[06:40] <jagginess> wiherek, you're using RAID1 with windows already?
[06:40] <xisor_> fr500: it works still! ty so much lol
[06:40] <wiherek> yea
[06:41] <curiousx> aloha all :D
[06:41] <curiousx> i already poste a thread :D
[06:41] <curiousx> about mah conky configuration :D
[06:41] <wiherek> i set up raid before installing any system, the installed them both.
[06:41] <Eli9> Hey all i'm male, excuse me do you recommend me either gnash or adobe for Ubuntu?
[06:41] <curiousx> this is mah conky configuration: http://i.imgur.com/LUHZv.jpg
[06:41] <curiousx> when we are able to see mah post?
[06:42] <xisor_> fr500:  i have another question, not sure if its possible to do it or not
[06:42] <jagginess> wiherek, but.. um.. you don't know.. you can't use "software raid" for linux+windows across the 2 drives (raid1)
[06:42] <jagginess> wiherek, that's no possible..
[06:42] <xisor_> fr500: is it possible to create a special session in which XBMC and ONLY xbmc loads at startup?
[06:42] <dr_willis> xisor_:  yes
[06:42] <wiherek> jagginess, thats what I thought too, but it works.. hold on, ill get the motherboard manual
[06:42] <jagginess> wiherek, no need to.
[06:42] <xisor_> dr_willis: how do i do it?
[06:42] <xisor_> fr500: XBMCbuntu does it by default so i have to assume theres a way
[06:42] <curiousx> Eli9: with Gnash i was able to see youtube's videos but i can't see chatango's chat
[06:43] <xisor_> dr_willis: im talking no nothing, JUST xbmc, no unity, no kde, no nothing
[06:43] <Drecondius> Ok, so I traded wifi adapters with a roomate. Had to boot into live-usb with nomodeset, same happens with it on a cd, If I have it download drivers during the install, will I still have to add nomodeset to options to have it boot?
[06:43] <wiherek> so you're saying that the raid doesnt work?
[06:43] <jagginess> wiherek, mswindows uses dynamic disks.. you can't add a linux system to an ldm raid1 (maybe in years to come)
[06:43] <dr_willis> xisor_:  make a proper session.desktop file for it
[06:43] <curiousx> and gnash consume more than adobe flash plugin
[06:43] <xisor_> dr_willis: how do i do that?
[06:43] <fr500> xisor_: sure it is but I don't know how
[06:43] <dr_willis> take  the existing gnome.desktop session file. copy, edit...
[06:44] <xisor_> dr_willis: edit it specifically how? :P
[06:44] <Eli9> consumes more what curiousx ¿
[06:44] <jagginess> wiherek, if you had a "real" raid card.. you don't have to setup anything fancy with the software.. meaning you install the OS on a harddrive it thinks is a single harddrive (and the real raid card hardware hides all the real drives below it)
[06:44] <dr_willis> xisor_:  i thought i noticed xbmc allready having such a session here on my system
[06:44] <curiousx> Eli9: more cpu
[06:44] <dr_willis> xisor_:  you take a text editor......
[06:44] <xisor_> dr_willis: maybe it makes a session for you?
[06:44] <xisor_> dr_willis: ill logout and see
[06:44] <xisor_> dr_willis: brb
[06:44] <dr_willis> xisor_:  i installed the xbmc package from a ppa and i recall seeing a entry for it in lightdm
[06:45] <curiousx> dr_willis: ye thats true same to me
[06:45] <jagginess> wiherek, however you're in a position to try to setup "sofware raid1".. meaning you need to use special partition tables.. which MSwin and Linux don't share
[06:45] <dr_willis> its  not like  .desktop files are that complex.. ;)
[06:45] <mosno> i have two users logged in. can someone please explain why /usr/bin/w shows only user A when run as user A, but both users A and B when run as user B?
[06:45] <Eli9> curiousx, your pic is from Arch perhaps?
[06:45] <jagginess> wiherek, so if you want windows on a raid1 and linux on a raid1 (both being software raid), then you need 4 harddrives..
[06:46] <Eli9> curiousx, thanks
[06:46] <curiousx> no, is ubuntu
[06:46] <curiousx> np
[06:46] <Eli9> ok how do you set it up like that? :)
[06:47] <wiherek> jagginess: that's firmware raid
[06:47] <wiherek> Intel Rapid Storage Technology\
[06:47] <Eli9> is it skin¿
[06:47] <curiousx> i have installed gnome-shell + theme + wallpaper + some plugins and conky, i alredy made a thread about mah conky in http://ubuntuforums.org
[06:48] <mosno> nobody? righto.
[06:48] <jagginess> wiherek, fakeraid is not the same as softwareraid exactly.. there's good sites on this
[06:48] <jagginess> wiherek, if you use fakeraid meaning a driver is used, you're likely using dmraid..
[06:48] <jagginess> wiherek, but dmraid is not as mature as mdadm..
[06:48] <curiousx> in the section "tips and tutorials" but idk when we will be able to see it =(
[06:48] <Eli9> thank you gtg
[06:48] <curiousx> is a theme
[06:48] <curiousx> np
[06:49] <Eli9> ah
[06:49] <wiherek> ok, well.. anyway -> atm I am chrooted on live cd
[06:49] <jagginess> wiherek, and mdadm doesnt need cheap raid chipsets.. which dont give much difference
[06:49] <jagginess> wiherek, that installer doesnt support raid on install
[06:49] <jagginess> wiherek, the server iso does..
[06:50] <wiherek> jagginess -> cant I just reinstall all the services from a terminal?
[06:50] <jagginess> wiherek, you can have windows on as it is.. but have linux as a software raid1..
[06:50] <xisor> dr_willis: it has a session on its own, thats nice of them to do that for me
[06:50] <Ben64> !info love
[06:51] <xisor> is it better to run ubuntu in 2d mode instead of 3d mode on a system like an ion nettop?
[06:51] <jagginess> wiherek, linux raid1 partitions can be made.. (reason why windows can't be software raid1 is because it uses "dynamic disk" partition table)
[06:51] <bazhang> xisor, certainly speedier
[06:51] <reisio> xisor: how'd that stuff that you were doing last night go?
[06:51] <xisor> reisio: which stuff?
[06:52] <ForSpareParts> Is there information anywhere about the order in which packages are installed for Precise? I've been watching this update run over ssh for ages, and I'm curious how much longer I've got.
[06:52] <xisor> reisio: i decided to install ubuntu on my dual core atom/ion nettop, instead of messing with other distros, i loaded sabayon and not only could it not find my audio hardware, but it was SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
[06:52] <MrMalak> Im going to guess alphabetical order but thats not based on anything
[06:53] <jagginess> ForSpareParts, how long its been?
[06:53] <ForSpareParts> jagginess
[06:53] <reisio> xisor: I don't remember, all I remember is your name :p
[06:53] <reisio> oh yeah sabayon, that was it
[06:53] <ForSpareParts> argh, sorry, I don't know this IRC client very well yet
[06:53] <ForSpareParts> Over an hour, maybe two.
[06:53] <xisor> reisio: ubuntu seems pretty quick for such a slow machine too
[06:53] <xisor> reisio: setting up an HTPC
[06:54] <reisio> xisor: which DE did you try with Sabayon?
[06:54] <jagginess> ForSpareParts, maybe it did something spooky with the ssh server.. you should use the program "screen" if you update via ssh
[06:54] <xisor> reisio: decided ubuntu in an XBMC only session was the best option, the most support for any problems, and fast
[06:54] <xisor> reisio: sabayon 8 KDE
[06:54] <xisor> reisio: its slow on a nettop XD
[06:54] <Drecondius> Should I go ahead and use the Ubuntu package for my video card or use the closed source driver from Nvidia?
[06:54] <xisor> reisio: atoms arent known for their speed lol
[06:54] <xisor> Drecondius: what card is it?
[06:54]  * jagginess always calls "screen -RR" to reattach terminals
[06:55] <dr_willis> xisor:  the xbmc site i recall has a xbmcbuntu variant that  i think had ion specific variants
[06:55] <gh0stn0te> hi
[06:55] <Drecondius> xisor: GeForce GTX 550ti
[06:55] <reisio> xisor: yeah KDE is probably what made it seem slow :p
[06:55] <xisor> dr_willis: i had xbmcbuntu on here, but i had the same problems as i had on the full ubuntu
[06:55] <xisor> dr_willis: with an xbmc only session they wouldnt be much of any difference at all right?
[06:55] <reisio> xisor: also the particular graphics driver that was used by default could've been suboptimal
[06:56] <ForSpareParts> jagginess: I'll keep that in mind for next time. I don't think there's a problem with ssh -- I mean, I'm still seeing stuff happen...
[06:56] <jagginess> ForSpareParts, doesnt it say [x/XX] ?
[06:56] <fr500> xisor: try openelec :D
[06:56] <ForSpareParts> It does not. Just tells me what packages it's working on -- Preparing to replace, unpacking, selecting, etc.
[06:57] <jagginess> ForSpareParts, maybe you chose a far mirror for downloading..
[06:57] <xisor> fr500: openelec would be fine if 1. it supported my audio hardware and 2. i can edit fstab to mount my samba shares and 3. it supported my wifi
[06:57] <xisor> fr500: 3 is the one im least sure about
[06:57] <ForSpareParts> It should have finished downloading a long time ago... it does that before installing anything, right?
[06:57] <xisor> fr500: also, to use a usb drive to install it, i also need a separate usb drive for the install target
[06:57] <jagginess> ForSpareParts, y
[06:57] <xisor> fr500: i only got the one
[06:58] <jagginess> ForSpareParts, btw you know the band speed? (it should say)
[06:58] <fr500> xisor: I'm pretty sure it supports ion, you can edit fstab but you can also mount SMB directly from XBMC, wifi... well I dunno
[06:58] <ForSpareParts> Not sure. I mean, my connection here tops out at about 2.5MB/s. Why do you ask?
[06:58] <xisor> fr500: and its nice to have access to a full distro when i need it,
[06:59] <anos> ubuntu 12.04 is restarting
[06:59] <xisor> fr500: am i gonna notice any speed difference using openelec vs using an xbmc session in ubuntu?
[06:59] <anos> it's load average is more than 1
[06:59] <jagginess> ForSpareParts, ok.. but that's fast.. it shouldn't take even hours to download a cd iso at that speed
[06:59] <anos> why it is hapennig
[06:59] <xisor> fr500: also, is it worth re installing and fixing all this crap i just fixed? XD
[07:00] <ForSpareParts> jagginess, I don't think I was totally clear: it isn't downloading anymore. It's the install itself that's taking ages.
[07:00] <jagginess> ForSpareParts, can you open another ssh terminal (are you able to?) ?
[07:00] <jagginess> ForSpareParts, and see how much disk space is left (df -h /)
[07:00] <fr500> xisor: openelec is tightly integrated I think you can even manage wifi from within it
[07:00] <tissi> allright hey
[07:00] <tissi> im supposed to test my proftpd user
[07:01] <fr500> xisor: speed difference... negligible
[07:01] <tissi> ...how do i exactly do that
[07:01] <tissi> i just installed proftpd and created an user with useradd command
[07:01] <ForSpareParts> 861 G Available. Just under half.
[07:01] <xisor> fr500: does the openelec installer play nice with windows?
[07:01] <xisor> fr500: i got windows 7 on here still lol
[07:01] <wa5qjh> Say, can somebody please tell me what the iso images labeled as Alternate mean or are for, please?
[07:01] <tissi> ...so, how do i test the user
[07:01] <jagginess> ForSpareParts, dmesg |tail   , you get any hardware resets?
[07:02] <xisor> tissi: use an ftp client and connect to localhost with the user info? if it denies access it doesnt work
[07:02] <jagginess> ForSpareParts, this usb?
[07:02] <llutz_> wa5qjh: its not a live-cd, it uses the text-mode installer and has some other install-features (raid, encryption etc iirc)
[07:02] <ForSpareParts> A few things happened -- what would I be looking for?
[07:03] <speak> Hi! How can I get icons showing when alt+tabbing, for programs I've launched from the terminal? I'm using Ubuntu 12 with Unity
[07:03] <ForSpareParts> My system's on an internal SATA hard drive.
[07:03] <jagginess> ForSpareParts, anything saying like "sector" error or drive error, it may say "reset" (if it does then that's serious)
[07:03] <captavilla> hey
[07:03] <Drecondius> What Java should I use, go for it from java.com or ...
[07:03] <captavilla> i have a problem with ubuntu 12.04
[07:03] <ForSpareParts> Don't think so.
[07:03] <captavilla> i cannot log in the system with my user account in gui
[07:03] <fr500> xisor: I think it's a live usb image
[07:03] <captavilla> i can log in the system with guest account
[07:03] <jagginess> ForSpareParts, you seeing scrolling text? or does it appeared frozen?
[07:03] <xisor> fr500: thanks for all your help, im off to edit my fstab now XD
[07:03] <xisor> fr500: dont worry i already did this once before lol on my laptop when i was testing it
[07:04] <fr500> xisor: not sure though
[07:04] <tissi> "cant connect to localhost: connection blocked
[07:04] <fr500> xisor: np good luck
[07:04] <tissi> fuck.
[07:04] <captavilla> i did sucessfully log in in pure shall
[07:04] <ForSpareParts> jagginess, If you're referring to the install, then: it's scrolling. dmesg stopped.
[07:04] <xisor> fr500: i want a permanent install, not something on usb, the only usb device i got is an SSD and the xbmc library would wear it out ridiculously fast
[07:04] <captavilla> pls help
[07:04] <xisor> tissi:  try 127.0.0.1 as the address instead of localhost
[07:05] <xisor> tissi: beyond that, im sure these guys know alot more than me
[07:05] <wa5qjh> other than  no live mode, It's just the same ting then?
[07:05] <jagginess> ForSpareParts, but maybe it finished downloading say i don't know.. and you thought it was installing for more time..
[07:05] <anos> please help me about the restarting 12.04
[07:05] <ServerCrash> hi i have written my daemon startup script and placed it in /etc/init.d/ , now i want this script to start my daemon on everytime i boot up
[07:05] <tissi> allright cool
[07:05] <tissi> imma try that shit
[07:05] <ServerCrash> how to do that
[07:05] <MrMalak> lol
[07:05] <tissi> kinda new to this stuff
[07:05] <xisor> tissi: ftp i know, linux i dont XD
[07:05] <ForSpareParts> jagginess, I'm not sure I follow?
[07:06] <anos> serverCrash you shoud add it to your default runlevel
[07:06] <wa5qjh> I see the one for  Kubuntu is considerably smaller (<700K vs 3.3G)
[07:06] <xisor> fr500: thanks again, see all you guys later
[07:06] <ForSpareParts> (also, thank you for taking the time to help me!)
[07:06] <jagginess> ForSpareParts, do you know when it finished downloading before it starting installing?
[07:06] <tissi> thats cool iguess
[07:06] <captavilla> hey
[07:06] <captavilla> any help
[07:06] <tissi> allright hey
[07:06] <ServerCrash> anos, i remember there was a command to add the script start up
[07:06] <tissi> "trying 127.0.0.1: 21
[07:06] <anos> update-rc.d
[07:06] <xisor> tissi: did it let youc onnect to yourself?
[07:06] <tissi> connection opened
[07:06] <tissi> but
[07:06] <Thor^^> captavilla: with what?
[07:06] <xisor> tissi: user credentials work?
[07:06] <ForSpareParts> Like how long ago? I'm guessing about an hour or two -- most of the time spent installing has been after it finished downloading.
[07:07] <tissi> then it automatically closes connection
[07:07] <wa5qjh> OK, thanks..
[07:07] <xisor> tissi: no idea about linux based ftp servers
[07:07] <xisor> tissi: im sure these guys can get you sorted
[07:07] <tissi> alright
[07:07] <xisor> tissi: just when you test it youll use 127.0.0.1 which is localhost
[07:07] <xisor> tissi: unless you happen to have another computer, then you can use your external ip address
[07:08] <anos> any help for restarting 12.04
[07:08] <ceptic> right guys im offt still got no where with ubuntu just gonna purchase the cds :)
[07:08] <anos> ????????
[07:08] <ceptic> cya :D
[07:08] <ForSpareParts> Did ceptic just say he was going to *purchase* the CDs because he was having technical problems?
[07:08] <MrMalak_> Yeah
[07:08] <Thor^^> anos: don't ask to ask, and remember to include as much info as you can :)
[07:09] <MrMalak_> He was having issues booting off of a burnt cd
[07:09] <ForSpareParts> Huh. Weird.
[07:09] <anos> my system load average is more than 1.3
[07:09] <Corey> anos: Not usually a problem.
[07:09] <Thor^^> anos: that's not uncommon
[07:09] <anos> and my gpu is more than 48C
[07:10] <Thor^^> anos: also common :)
[07:10] <anos> when i open google chrom it restarts
[07:10] <Corey>  0:10  up 3 days,  6:19, 9 users, load averages: 4.77 4.15 4.11
[07:10] <Thor^^> anos: a GPU usually idles at about 40-50 degrees
[07:10] <anos> i know that it's not common
[07:10] <Thor^^> anos: that's more like an issue, after the reboot, does syslog mention anything? Do you see a kernel panic?
[07:11] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[07:11] <anos> no never
[07:11] <fr500> huuuuge netsplit
[07:11] <anos> never kernel panix
[07:11] <MrMalak_> ROFLMAO!
[07:11] <Thor^^> anos: can you pastebin your syslog right after a crash?
[07:11] <MrMalak_> Sweet
[07:11] <captavilla> asf
[07:12] <captavilla> oh come on
[07:12] <anos> how i can i do that?
[07:12] <MrMalak_> bring on the spam mmmmmm
[07:12] <dr_willis> do what?
[07:12] <Thor^^> anos: like force it to happen now and when you get back up cat /var/log/syslog
[07:12] <Thor^^> god what a netsplit -.-'
[07:13] <captavilla> i cnnot login sytem with my usser accounr
[07:13] <dr_willis> never noticed. :) i got parts/joind hidden
[07:13] <captavilla> why is the problem occured
[07:13] <dr_willis> captavilla:  try logging in at the console?
[07:13] <Thor^^> dr_willis: maybe I should do the same ._.
[07:13] <speak> Hi! How can I get icons showing when alt+tabbing, for programs I've launched from the terminal? I'm using Ubuntu 12 with Unity
[07:13] <captavilla> i can login with console
[07:13] <dr_willis> Thor^^:  i dont see how you can be in this channel with them enabled. :)
[07:13] <captavilla> i do ctrl alt f1 and i d
[07:13] <captavilla> d succeesfully login
[07:14] <Thor^^> dr_willis: I usually don't pay attention in this channel! :D
[07:14] <dr_willis> captavilla:   so  exactly what does the login scrren do when you try to login with it?
[07:14] <Thor^^> dr_willis: and I got BRIGHT colors for all messages :)
[07:14] <captavilla> it said no directory logging it with home=/
[07:15] <dr_willis> captavilla:  ssounds weird. like you got some bad permissions on  some files. or your home  dir. try making a new user at  the console. see if you can login with them 'sudo adduser billgates' (for example)
[07:16] <captavilla> dr_willis:  it is first use after installation of 12.04
[07:16] <captavilla> how can i st permission in first use
[07:16] <MrMalak_> captavilla log in as root
[07:16] <dr_willis> try making  a new user as a test
[07:16] <dr_willis> you dont login as root........
[07:16] <captavilla> i log in with my username
[07:16] <captavilla> than i i did sudo -s
[07:17] <wawowe> chown -R captavilla. /home/captavilla
[07:17] <dr_willis> you had no messages or warnings when logging in at the console?
[07:18] <dr_willis> the lightdm message almost sounds like you dont have a /home/yourusername  directory
[07:18] <captavilla>  creat a new username
[07:18] <captavilla> t work
[07:18] <captavilla> how can i arrange sudo priviledges for normal user
[07:18] <captavilla> new user
[07:18] <llutz_> captavilla: sudo adduser username admin
[07:18] <wawowe> usermod -d /home/captavilla captavilla
[07:19] <anos> dear thor^^ this is the last syslog content:
[07:19] <anos> May 29 11:30:01 robust CRON[3337]: (www-data) CMD (php /usr/share/cacti/site/poller.php >/dev/null 2>/var/log/cacti/poller-error.log)
[07:19] <anos> May 29 11:34:32 robust AptDaemon: INFO: Quitting due to inactivity
[07:19] <anos> May 29 11:34:32 robust AptDaemon: INFO: Quitting was requested
[07:19] <anos> May 29 11:35:01 robust CRON[3385]: (root) CMD (command -v debian-sa1 > /dev/null && debian-sa1 1 1)
[07:19] <anos> May 29 11:35:01 robust CRON[3386]: (www-data) CMD (php /usr/share/cacti/site/poller.php >/dev/null 2>/var/log/cacti/poller-error.log)
[07:19] <FloodBot1> anos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:19] <Corey> anos: Don't... do that, please.
[07:19] <Thor^^> lol
[07:20] <Thor^^> anos: pastebin the syslog
[07:20] <captavilla> group adm
[07:20] <llutz_> captavilla: admin, not adm
[07:20] <captavilla> group admin does not exist
[07:20] <wawowe> captavilla: sudo then
[07:20] <captavilla> sorry i entered accidentally
[07:20] <llutz_> captavilla: then its no *buntu you're using
[07:21] <anos> did you see that i paste it by pastbin
[07:21] <captavilla> command is adduser username admin right
[07:21] <wawowe> server ubuntu has sudo group instead of admin
[07:21] <Thor^^> anos: you got to send us the link to the pastebin :)
[07:21] <fr500> captavilla: admin is reserved
[07:22] <fr500> you can't use that
[07:22] <anos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012716/
[07:22] <captavilla> i need to give sudo priviledge to my account
[07:22] <captavilla> how can i do that
[07:22] <dr_willis> adduser billgates admin
[07:22] <Corey> captavilla: Add yourself to the sudo group
[07:22] <Corey> captavilla: usermod -a -G sudo YOURUSERNAME
[07:22] <Thor^^> anos: I need the entire syslog, as it's likely far up in the log
[07:23] <anos> send the all for you? it's a really big file?
[07:23] <captavilla> my username is in suddoers file this accident will be reported i tokok that messssssssage
[07:24] <Thor^^> anos: at least to ~10 minutes ago
[07:24] <MrMalak_> Lots of s' = win
[07:24] <Drecondius> How do i configure Unity to how I want it, ie: 2 rows and smaller icons?
[07:24] <randi> i want to dump the contents of a folder nightly.. is gnome-schedule the best way to do this?
[07:24] <fr500> randi: I'd use crontab
[07:25] <dr_willis> Drecondius:  2 rows of what? and youy can reduce the panel icons to be size 32 - using the myunity tool. it has other settings also
[07:25] <Thor^^> out of curiousity, what tz is paste.ubuntu.com?
[07:25] <randi> thnx will look into that
[07:26] <Drecondius> dr_willis: 2 rows of Icons
[07:26] <Thor^^> it states 3:20 UTC on a paste, but UTC is definitly not 3:20 6 min ago
[07:26] <captavilla> okey
[07:26] <captavilla> now everything is okey
[07:26] <dr_willis> Drecondius:  where exactly? the left side panel? it cant do that.
[07:26] <aditx> woy
[07:26] <aditx> hello
[07:26] <randi> hey aditx
[07:27] <aditx> nice to chat with you
[07:27] <aditx> :D
[07:27] <aditx> I want to study ubuntu
[07:27] <aditx>  please help me
[07:28] <ForSpareParts> So, my Precise install has been chugging along for ages, but now it seems to be stuck on "Setting up keyboard-configuration" -- it's been there for a few minutes at least. Is that... normal?
[07:28] <randi> with what aditx?
[07:28] <dr_willis> be a bit more detailed in your question aditx
[07:28] <fasta> What's the name of the admin group on Ubuntu? adm?
[07:28] <anos> dear thor^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012719/
[07:28] <aditx> ok i will install ubuntu server in my office
[07:28] <Drecondius> Gah, the openjdk 7 installer is sitting in unity saying on mouseover that it's waiting to install and yet it's been sitting there now and not doing anything.
[07:28] <dr_willis> aditx:  why are you using the server edition and not the desktop ed?
[07:29] <anos> did you get it?
[07:29] <aditx> ok i know that
[07:29] <fasta> Is there a manage users front end for kde?
[07:29] <randi> ???
[07:29] <robotdevil> is there a program for ubuntu (gtk and qt) that I can use to send notification to another person on my lan
[07:29] <aditx> but i dont know how to install that
[07:29] <Thor^^> anos: can you do a cat of /var/log/syslog.1 and pastebin that?
[07:29] <aditx> it's different with desktop editiom
[07:29] <qtzhou> hi
[07:29] <anos> yes
[07:30] <dr_willis> robotdevil:  ages ago we would use 'talk' but there may be better apps these days.  but they may need some more setup
[07:30] <dr_willis> aditx:  im not sure we know what you are really wanting to do. or what your question is.
[07:30] <Thor^^> robotdevil: there's pidgin, it got local communication functionality
[07:31] <aditx> how to install ubuntu server ???
[07:31] <dr_willis> aditx:  burn the cd.. put it in pc.. boot it.
[07:31] <robotdevil> doesnt need to be too fancy just an audible ping and short message
[07:32] <aditx> ok then . . steps that i choose ??
[07:32] <ForSpareParts> Guys, if I kill the machine during an upgrade to Precise (because it seems to be hanging) will there be a way to resume the installation? Will everything be ruined forever?
[07:32] <robotdevil> windows used to have a little app that did this cant remember what it is called
[07:32] <dr_willis> aditx:  huh? follow the installer programs questions...
[07:32] <randi> aditx : https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html
[07:32] <robotdevil> winpop or something
[07:32] <aditx> ok2 thanks :D
[07:33] <dr_willis> aditx:  i still dont know why you are chooseing the server install over the desktop install.
[07:33] <aditx> because i want to study
[07:33] <aditx> I'm newbie in opensource :(
[07:33] <dr_willis> aditx:  so what does that have to do with it?:
[07:33] <randi> start with desktop then
[07:34] <anos> it takes time
[07:34] <aditx> I will make a proxy :D
[07:34] <robotdevil> !linpopup
[07:34] <dr_willis> You can setup a proxy server on a desktop install..
[07:34] <robotdevil> .....
[07:34] <aditx> and DNS server with bind9
[07:34] <dr_willis> and dns and bind...
[07:34] <robotdevil> !info linpopup
[07:34]  * dr_willis wonders why a newbie needs dns and bind...
[07:34] <dr_willis> linpopup used to be part of the samba package i recall
[07:35] <Thor^^> dr_willis: to learn?
[07:35] <robotdevil> ok
[07:35] <dr_willis> it was i recall used ages ago on windows networks as some sort of messing feature
[07:35] <aditx> yes my friends recommended that ??
[07:35] <dreet> aditx: which kind of proxy?
[07:35] <dr_willis> 'crawl, walk, run, fly' time to start with the basics   first.
[07:36] <aditx> thnks for all . . good bye :D
[07:36] <Thor^^> aditx: bind9 is to prefer, as it implements the standards for DNS :)
[07:36] <llutz_> aditx: be prepared to do a LOT of reading
[07:37] <robotdevil> does anyone here run quassel in unity? would nicked messages be shown in a notification in unity?
[07:37] <Thor^^> robotdevil: I think it does, it should use the notify service for that
[07:37] <robotdevil> install quassel, create channel, msg with nick. problem solved
[07:37] <robotdevil> Thor^^: ok
[07:38] <Thor^^> robotdevil: I can't check cause I'm @ work
[07:38] <robotdevil> ya other machine i being used dont want to distrub them
[07:38] <randi> can I do a "rm -rf /foo/*" on a cron job?
[07:39] <reisio> randi: you can do anything
[07:39] <anos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012725/
[07:39] <randi> i just know that you have to enter y/n and didn't know if it skips on a cron
[07:39] <llutz_> randi: -rf won't ask
[07:40] <randi> you're right. For some reason I thought it did
[07:43] <drvanon> I want to burn a arch image file i have in ubuntu on a cd, wich program should i use?
[07:44] <llutz_> drvanon: wodim -dao path/to/file.iso
[07:44] <drvanon> thanks
[07:45] <ForSpareParts> So, I had to kill my system on a half-finished install that hung -- now Ubuntu boots, but it won't recognize USB keyboards or mice, and I can't connect via ssh -- I assume it's not starting it? I was able to get into recovery mode (at that point I can use my keyboard) but after that it was the same deal.
[07:45] <ForSpareParts> Any idea what's going on/how to fix it?
[07:49] <pepee> ForSpareParts, try unplugging and then plugging the cables
[07:50] <ForSpareParts> pepee, cables?
[07:50] <Thor^^> anos: does it crash consistently when you open chrome or when you load up a page containing flash?
[07:50] <pepee> ForSpareParts, usb
[07:50] <ForSpareParts> Oh. Did that.
[07:50] <ForSpareParts> No dice, unfortunately.
[07:52] <ForSpareParts> pepee, do you have any other ideas? I'm totally stuck...
[07:52] <pepee> ForSpareParts, nope :/
[07:52] <ForSpareParts> Is there a way to boot to terminal from GRUB?
[07:52] <pepee> ForSpareParts, reinstall? use a serial cable?
[07:52] <pepee> ForSpareParts, ahh yeah, that too
[07:53] <ForSpareParts> pepee, how would I do that? Google seems to suggest that I'd need to be able to change some config files before that would be an option...
[07:53] <pepee> ForSpareParts, remove "ro quiet splash" and add "init=/bin/bash"
[07:54] <pepee> ForSpareParts, no, you dont need to do that
[07:54] <ForSpareParts> pepee, Sorry, but remove and add to...?
[07:54] <pepee> ForSpareParts, press e or c to edit the kernel command line in grub2
[07:54] <ForSpareParts> Ah. Gotcha.
[07:54] <fasta> How can I increase the number of loop devices?
[07:55] <fasta> Or how can I see the current maximum number of loop devices?
[07:55] <pepee> fasta, why do you want to do that?
[07:55] <pepee> fasta, ls /dev/loop*
[07:56] <Fyodorovna> ForSpareParts, you might have to chroot in from a live cd, hard to say here if the usb connects are not working.
[07:56] <weiyang> after start up , kernel will invoke /sbin/init ?
[07:56] <fasta> pepee: why do you reply with a question instead of an answer?
[07:56] <pepee> fasta, because  I'm curious, and also, to check if I can help
[07:57] <fasta> pepee: I configured the same option as in Debian, but it has no effect in Ubuntu.
[07:57] <Fyodorovna> ForSpareParts, A half finished fresh installs sound like a reinstall to be honest.
[07:58] <pepee> ForSpareParts, ^
[07:58] <ForSpareParts> Fyodorovna, it was an upgrade, actually.
[07:58] <pepee> I agree
[07:58] <Thor^^> fasta: it's easier to help you if we know what you want to achieve, maybe there's a different way to do it as well, not just the way you are used to :)
[07:58] <ForSpareParts> Should've been more clear.
[07:58] <pepee> uh :/
[07:58] <pepee> ForSpareParts, downloaded all the necessary files?
[07:58] <pepee> I mean, did dpkg do that?
[07:58] <ForSpareParts> I think so.
[07:58] <fasta> Thor^^: I want no arbitrary limitations on my system; one of them is mounting ISO files.
[07:59] <fasta> Linux is supposed to be a free power horse. It also works fine with higher limits (from experience) so I don't see why the limit is so low.
[07:59] <mithran> how can i make a master ubuntu cd 12.04
[07:59] <Fyodorovna> ForSpareParts, you might be able to get in with a chroot and run sudo dpkg --configure -a and this  sudo apt-get -f install  the second may finish the update.
[07:59] <mithran> with my configurations
[07:59] <pepee> ForSpareParts, in that case, dpkg should be able to repair the system, I think
[08:00] <Fyodorovna> upgrade*
[08:00] <Fyodorovna> ForSpareParts, you would not need the sudo though a chroot is root
[08:01] <ForSpareParts> Fyodorovna, pepee: OK. I guess I'll try to get in with a chroot.
[08:02] <mithran> how can i make a master CD of my ubuntu 12.04
[08:02] <mithran> or DVD
[08:02] <reisio> enslave the DVDs around it
[08:03] <fasta> If a module is compiled into the kernel, how do I set its options?
[08:03] <fasta> Is it only possible in some grub file or are there also other places?
[08:04] <weiyang> the /sbin/init in ubuntu will be different on other disto?
[08:05] <Fyodorovna> ForSpareParts, would you like a link for the chroot?
[08:05] <ForSpareParts> Fyodorovna, that'd be great.
[08:06] <llutz_> fasta: grep LOOP_MIN_COUNT /boot/config-$(uname -r)     to get more, "sudo mknod -m640 /dev/loop8 b 7 8"
[08:06] <Fyodorovna> ForSpareParts, this is for reloading grub but once you are in just try the commands, not sure what the other user suggested I have been on the UF as well.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[08:07] <fasta> llutz_: I will go with the grub modification.
[08:07] <Fyodorovna> ForSpareParts, the chroot is in the right menu.
[08:07] <mithran> how can i make a master CD of my ubuntu 12.04
[08:09] <ForSpareParts> Fyodorovna, so I want to get to grubs command line/rescue and chroot from there?
[08:10] <mithran> how can i make a master CD/DVD  of my ubuntu 12.04
[08:10] <ForSpareParts> Or should I be grabbing a copy of the LiveCD ISO?
[08:10] <mithran> ?
[08:11] <mithran> how can i make a master CD/DVD  of my ubuntu 12.04?
[08:11] <ForSpareParts> mithran, what do you mean by a master CD/DVD?
[08:12] <MrMalak_> Does any one here play Diablo 3?
[08:13] <robotdevil> how do I make xchat start on boot? dont see it in the preferences and not too familiar with unity system settings
[08:13] <anos> excuse me thor^^, i think when i load up a flash
[08:13] <MrMalak_> You could probably run it from one of the startup scripts
[08:13] <pepee> ForSpareParts, yeah, liveCD is better
[08:14] <Thor^^> anos: so if you load up eg. google.com it works fine?
[08:14] <ForSpareParts> pepee, Got it. DOWNLOAD TIME
[08:14] <MrMalak_> The live cds failed me -_-
[08:14] <robotdevil> you mean there is nt a section to load apps to start on boot?
[08:14] <anos> yes
[08:14] <fasta> It seems rather bad system design that it depends on whether something is a module where its configuration should be located.
[08:14] <fasta> Ideally, that shouldn't matter.
 i wnt to format my system and re instaall all the current updated packages
[08:15] <anos> my cpu is corei7 960 and it's so rare to have load average more than 1
[08:15] <robotdevil> did someone  answer me?
[08:15] <MrMalak_> I sent you a message
[08:15] <MrMalak_> robot
[08:15] <Drecondius> My openjdk runtime 7 is freezing during install please help me figure out what to do
[08:15] <llutz_> !clone | mithran  just backup your stuff and use this
[08:16] <mithran> ForSpareParts: i wnt to format my system and re instaall all the current updated packages
[08:16] <wilee-nilee> ForSpareParts, here are the commands.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012754/
[08:16] <ForSpareParts> mithran -- not sure how to do that, sorry.
[08:16] <robotdevil> MrMalak_: I see, so did this change with unity
[08:16] <MrMojoRising> y.
[08:17] <Mrokii> hello. Seems that with the Upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 my Canon Lide 210 scanner has stopped working (neither xsane nor simplescan recognises it). It had been working before by using a ppa with some sane utils. Does anybody know what to do?
[08:17] <ForSpareParts> wilee-nilee: Awesome, thanks for that.
[08:17] <MrMalak_> I have no idea, I suspect that there is a startup script for xwindows but I am not sure. I wish I could be more help but I am still a newb when it comes to linux
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> ForSpareParts, No problem a kind of modified copy and paste chroot pretty cool really.
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> thanks to the ubuntu geeks
[08:18] <mithran> ubottu: i want to make a live DVD/CD   is it possible?
[08:19] <zombifier> Dunno what you're implying but ubottu is just a bot
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> mithran, there is remastersys and other ways to make a setup and have it made to a ISO to load to a dvd.
[08:20] <augustl> hi folks. Can I disable application grouping in alt+tab in 12.04?
[08:21] <zombifier> augustl: You can choose a different type of Alt-Tab via CompizConfig Setting Manager
[08:22] <mithran> wilee-nilee: what shall ido for making it
[08:23] <augustl> zombifier: I tried to find an option for that in there, but I can't find it
[08:24] <zombifier> Unity's Switcher does not have that option. YOu must use a different type of switcher completely, like Ring Switcher of Shift Switcher
[08:24] <MrMalak_> My install is nearly done :-D
[08:24] <bouma> how do i use fileroller to split an archive in multiple pieces ?
[08:24] <MrMalak_> Woot! I hope ubuntu is more friendly vs slackware
[08:24] <augustl> zombifier: how do I change which switcher to use? Just disable the shortcuts for it and enable another one?
[08:24] <gondez> bouma: i don't know, but you can use cat
[08:24] <fidel_> hi - somehow gnome3&gnome-shell feels pretty slow on my i5 with 4gb ram, classic hd and a passive-cooled nv 9500 card. Is that a known gnome3/gnome-shell issue? wondering as *gnome2* was way less laggy feelingwise. resource-monitoring like htop or similar dont show a problem in terms of high cpu or mem load
[08:24] <zombifier> It is MrMalak_
[08:25] <wilee-nilee> mithran, here are some links.  http://www.remastersys.com/   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
[08:25] <bouma> gondez: yeah i could but i need to email zip files for any chance the other party will receive the doc
[08:25] <zombifier> augustl: Yep
[08:25] <MrMalak> Stupid net split
[08:25] <MrMalak> My mind is blown by all of the people with new machines that are complaining about linux being slow
[08:25] <mithran> wilee-nilee: ok i will try Thanks
[08:26] <anos> thor^^ ok
[08:26] <MrMalak> Im running a 5 year old laptop with a gig of memory maybe and its sweet, how could it be that a machine like these could possibly run linux "slow"?
[08:26] <bouma> i'd love to use the fileroller, its got a gui for splitting files but it goes grey when ever i pick zip or try and make a split zip
[08:27] <Thor^^> MrMalak: I can think of one issue with my machine at home, the Nvidia drivers were not optimized and Unity was pushing it quite hard
[08:27] <bouma> MrMalak: im running gentoo on a quad core with 8gig, it rips
[08:27] <wilee-nilee> mithran, Cool, I have used the first link, it is not all that hard to use.
[08:27] <Thor^^> MrMalak: aditionally I saw several processes killing the cpu (no idea why, or how I fixed it)
[08:27] <MrMalak> Yeah I guess I am being a little stupid, I just cant imagine linux being slow compared to windows :P
[08:28] <anos> thor^^: this is my flash version: (adobe-flashplugin                      11.2.202.235-0precise1)
[08:28] <zombifier> MrMalak: Those people were probably trying to eat more than they could chew (e.g. use a very heavy DE)
[08:28] <MrMalak> true
[08:29] <Thor^^> MrMalak: this machine was designed with Photoshop in mind, latest hardware etc. that's where linux often fall short in the "works out of the box" department
[08:29] <jefimenko> does anyone know how to get a consistent MAC address for a active-backup bond in 12.04? since upgrading to 12.04, sometimes the system takes eth0 MAC at boot, other times it's eth1. this is a big problem because of MAC to IP mappings in my DHCP.
[08:29] <Thor^^> my 4 year old netbook outperformed the machine easily
[08:30] <bouma> a win7 64 install with nonlegacy hw on this machine is pretty fast too. they did put alot of effort into certain code paths and the drivers are closed source (but same on linux for me)
[08:30] <Thor^^> anos: I'm at a loss, to me flash is the devil and I don't use it, specially not on linux, so no idea where to start looking for issues with it
[08:30] <wawowe> jefimenko: udev
[08:31] <wawowe> jefimenko: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[08:31] <jefimenko> wawowe: how do you do that with a bond? the eth0 and eth1 devices *are* being named consistently. it's just that the bond0 chooses one at random to use for the MAC
[08:31] <zombifier> bouma: Nautilus has an option of compressing a file/folder and optioanlly split it
[08:31] <sary> anos: if you need flash to stream YOUTBE videos , use html5 instead , if its rquired for for other sites try Gnash.
[08:32] <wawowe> jefimenko: add bond0 in there
[08:32] <bouma> zombifier: right but the split is grey, the only option that ungreys the password is .zip but the split remains grey
[08:32] <Code_Factory> hey guys, I'm having a problem with skype, it slows down the whole machine and eats 1-3 GB
[08:33] <Drecondius> How do I set a hd to automount on boot?
[08:33] <bouma> so microsoft still allow skype for linux ?
[08:33] <fasta> bouma: it would be bad for business not to.
[08:33] <tango73> ciao
[08:33] <tango73> !list
[08:33] <sary> bouma: there is a GNU/LINUX edition yes.
[08:33] <jefimenko> wawowe: i've only edited entries in this file before. do you know what fields to fill in for adding a bond0 device in there?
[08:34] <MrMalak> ROFLMAO
[08:34] <bouma> hah, skype is microsofts "crown jewel" of consumer internet services
[08:34] <MrMalak> !list awsome
[08:34] <sary> tango73: are you looking for lis of channels!
[08:34] <augustl> hmm, the other switchers in the compizconfig settings manager doesn't seem to be workspace compliant
[08:34] <augustl> they just move windows to workspace one and also set focus on workspace one, it seems
[08:34] <augustl> and show windows from all workspaces
[08:35] <wawowe> jeffrash: copy the one for eth0 and replace eth* with bond* eth0 bond0
[08:35] <Drecondius> Can someone tell me how to automount an ntfs drive at boot?
[08:35] <zombifier> Most switchers has the option of switching only windows on current workspace and windows on ALL workspaces
[08:35] <Aedan------> Hello?
[08:36] <sary> Hey
[08:36] <Thor^^> bouma: I believe Microsoft will continue to support Skype on most platforms, not doing so will kill it for them
[08:36] <Aedan------> you ok?
[08:36] <Code_Factory> bouma : yes ?? why
[08:36] <Thor^^> Aedan------: Hi there!
[08:36] <Aedan------> just being p9olite
[08:36] <Aedan------> polite
[08:37] <Aedan------> where is everyone from? Anyone from Portugal?
[08:37] <bouma> i know a portugese girl
[08:37] <Bruno> hello aedan gay
[08:37] <Aedan------> I live in Portugal
[08:37] <Bruno> ahah
[08:37] <sary> Drecondius: a simple search came-up with http://askubuntu.com/questions/46588/how-to-automount-ntfs-partitions
[08:37] <zombifier> !offtopic
[08:38] <Code_Factory> Are you guys kidding, how can Microsoft possibly consider kill skype for linux!!
[08:38] <Code_Factory> still guys I'm having a huge problem with skype
[08:38] <ikonia> Code_Factory: not something that's really right for this channel
[08:38] <zombifier> They did not consider it. In fact they said they would continue to support it
[08:38] <Aedan------> bruno takes it up the arse
[08:38] <ikonia> Aedan------: stop that now
[08:38] <ikonia> Aedan------: that language/content is unacceptable
[08:38] <Code_Factory> ikonia: I'm sorry, I dunno what I did?
[08:38] <Aedan------> Im sorry
[08:38] <Aedan------> bite me
[08:38] <Guest35905> aedan is my horse
[08:39] <fasta> How can I see whether a certain apache module has been enabled? I.e. the same argument I give to a2enmod.
[08:39] <Drecondius> Minor issue with that link, it's to stop them from mounting, I WANT it to mount
[08:39] <Guest35905> o miguel tem um caralhao
[08:39] <ikonia> Code_Factory: the microsoft kill skype thing, not really inline with the support topic of the channel
[08:39] <fasta> a2enmod doesn't seem to have an option to query for whether it has been enabled.
[08:39] <sary> Guest35905: Oh now you don't speak English ! lol
[08:39] <Guest35905> hello
[08:39] <augustl> the workspace switching problems was due to a previous crash of compiz, relogged and now the static application switcher works just fine
[08:40] <ikonia> Guest35905: hello again, please try to keep your langauge under control this time
[08:40] <Guest35905> why?
[08:40] <ikonia> Guest35905: because the channels has a no-rude language/comments policy
[08:40] <sary> Guest35905: This is a support channel , you can chit-chat in #defoucs.
[08:40] <Code_Factory> ikonia: I was trying to get help about skype on my ubuntu, when someone else started the discussion, it was just a passing argument
[08:41] <Code_Factory> ikonia: didn't mean to offend the channel :D
[08:41] <ikonia> Code_Factory: yeah, I can see that, getting help with skype is great, no issues there, just don't want the microsoft killing off skype dicussion in here
[08:41] <ikonia> Code_Factory: zero offense caused at all,
[08:41] <sary> Code_Factory: I am sure you're using the beta version , right.
[08:42] <fidel_> is gnome3/gnome-shell known to feel laggy - even if cpu&mem arent fully in use?
[08:42] <Code_Factory> sary: yes
[08:42] <dr_willis> fidel_:  the gpu is often the bottleneck
[08:42] <fidel_> dr_willis: using a passive nv 9500 card with the driver directly from the nv-page
[08:43] <Code_Factory> sary: it just jams sometimes, I'm trying to figure out why? can you tell me where to look?
[08:43] <zombifier> I never trust drivers from nvidia
[08:43] <fidel_> so not using those 'older' drivers ubuntu offers via its package management
[08:43] <zombifier> Most people I know said Noveau works better
[08:43] <dr_willis> i tend  to use the ppa's that have newer drivers if i need them.
[08:43] <fidel_> dr_willis: would you recommend switching to nouveau?
[08:43] <fidel_> k
[08:43] <sary> fidel_: it must be laggy for a reason .. make sure its up to date .
[08:44] <dr_willis> try nouveau and see.  but i doubt if they will be much  better
[08:44] <fidel_> sary: define 'it'
[08:44] <Aedan------> Ikonia I lov you
[08:44] <jefimenko> wawowe: i tried the udev rule. it didn't work
[08:44] <dr_willis> I have seen some bugs where X takes up a lot of CPU and makes the gui act weird. restarting X fixs it for a while
[08:44] <Bruno69> aedan
[08:44] <sary> nouveau is woring great here with gnome-shell .
[08:44] <Bruno69> i love you
[08:44] <ikonia> Aedan------: enough now, if you want to use the channel for ubuntu technical support, you are welcome, if not, please stop
[08:44] <sulaiman> Hi
[08:44] <sary> fidel_: gnome-shell i meant .
[08:44] <Aedan------> ok mate, im sorry
[08:44] <ikonia> Aedan------: no problem
[08:45] <fidel_> sary: its uptodate for sure
[08:45] <Aedan------> will you marry me? through the technical support line?
[08:45] <sulaiman> I am able to ping my windows server on my local network, 192.168.3.20. how can I access it from a file browser?
[08:45] <shawna> Can anyone tell me how I can scan my hardware to figure out what kind of video card my machine has?
[08:45] <ikonia> shawna: just do an "lspci"
[08:46] <fidel_> shawna: lspci might helo
[08:46] <dr_willis> sulaiman:  the nautilus file manager can access samba shares,  browse them, or use the address  bar directly (ctrl-l) then  smb://servername-or-ip-number/sharename
[08:47] <sulaiman> thanks dr_willis
[08:47] <anos> sary: how can i use gnash
[08:47] <shawna> Forgive me, I'm kinda new to this, but how do I do an lspci?
[08:47] <zombifier> Install gnash from the repo
[08:47] <wawowe> jefimenko: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[08:47] <studio> Can someone help me with a sound issue?
[08:47] <zombifier> shawna: Open a terminal and type that command in. It should give you full info about your hardware
[08:47] <anos> sary: and how it can solve my problem
[08:47] <anos> ?
[08:48] <dr_willis> !info gnash
[08:48] <studio> I can hear sounds when I port things through jack, but not when I'm surfing the web or playing games.
[08:48] <shawna> Great, thank you.
[08:48] <studio> How can I fix this?
[08:48] <wawowe> jefimenko: try changing bond-slave to bond-master
[08:48] <wawowe> jefimenko: and run: service networking restart
[08:49] <jefimenko> wawowe: this is what i'm using now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012761/
[08:49] <jefimenko> wawowe: you can see that i'm trying to force the MAC and it still doesn't honor it
[08:51] <wawowe> jefimenko: change bond-slaves eth0 eth1 -> bond-slaves none
[08:51] <wawowe> jefimenko: and comment out the hwaddress line
[08:52] <shawna> Now can anyone tell me how to get the rotating desktop sphere with 3d windows?
[08:53] <Anom> Is there a knack to getting xchat notifications to behave in Ubuntu? I've tried disabling ALL alerts in the settings but it still flashes when anyone says anything in any channel/network...
[08:53] <dr_willis> shawna:  ive seen some guides on setting up the 'cube with unity'  yoiu may want to search for. I think i saw one on the webupd8 blog site. but i hate the cube effect
[08:53] <zombifier> shawna: Install ccsm first and configure
[08:53] <fidel_> shawna: what do you mean by '3d windows'?
[08:54] <dr_willis> some ccsm settings can break unity. so use it with caution. ;)
[08:54] <jefimenko> wawowe: i can see in syslog after bootup that eth0 and eth1 are not "up" for ~3 seconds
[08:55] <jefimenko> wawowe: the system polls through eth0, eth1, eth0, then hits eth1 again and eth1 is up
[08:55] <jefimenko> wawowe: so the first it chooses is eth1 and that becomes the initial MAC
[08:56] <jefimenko> wawowe: do you know how to make bond0 wait for eth0 to come up?
[08:56] <wawowe> jefimenko: the 3 seconds is probably dhcp
[08:56] <jefimenko> this wasn't a problem in 11.10
[08:56] <jefimenko> wawowe: there's no DHCP
[08:56] <jefimenko> not for eth0 and eth1
[08:56] <wawowe> jefimenko: you have dhcp bond0
[08:57] <ScottHarrison> Hi guys, I'm having a bit of trouble with the wizard option not working (Webpage, Agenda etc.) in LibreOffice Writer... I think it's a Java issue but when I "java -version," I get "java version 1.6.0_24" back... Any ideas?
[08:57] <jefimenko> wawowe: the dhcp is on a vlan on bond0.200
[08:57]  * Wizard works perfectly.
[08:57] <jefimenko> wawowe: but i'm talking about the interface link status
[08:57] <Wizard> :>
[08:57] <MrMojoRising> shotgun midget monkeys
[08:57] <MrMojoRising> in tress iwth shotguns on unicylce
[08:57] <jefimenko> wawowe: bond0 is polling the link status of eth0 and eth1, both of which are down for the first few seconds during bootup
[08:57] <MrMojoRising> fluffy sharks with lazers
[08:57] <MrMojoRising> ont he head
[08:57] <Wizard> Bah.
[08:58] <Wizard> Somebody kick him :P
[08:58] <jefimenko> wawowe: depending on the poll timing and when the interfaces come up, bond0 selects one or the other and takes the MAC from that. i'll see if i can pastebin the syslog
[08:58] <wawowe> jefimenko: i don't think bond-slaves needs to be there at all since you have eth1 and eth0 set with bond-master bond0
[08:58] <shawna> Where the windows you have open appear "layred" over the desktop as it rotates. I'm running 10.04 with Gnome,I have already installed ccsm, but I can't figure out how to get the desktop cube to look like a sphere. I had a different machine with 10.04 that would do it, can't remember how I got it to work.
[08:58] <zombifier> Open CCSM, enable Desktop Cube and 3d Windows
[08:58] <zombifier> That should do it
[08:59] <zombifier> Also, Cube Reflection and Deformation to make it look like a sphere
[08:59] <LjL> MrMojoRising: please stick to Ubuntu support here and move the silliness to #ubuntu-offtopic (but use a grain of salt there as well)
[08:59] <ScottHarrison> Anybody familiar with java and/or LibreOffice that could help me with something, I'd appreciate a pm when they have time. Thank you. :)
[09:00] <milk_> hey
[09:00] <shawna> Do you know if intel graphics will support it, and do I need to install a seperate driver for intel graphics?
[09:00] <hampsterblade> I'm having a problem with system responsiveness on my 12.04 system.
[09:01] <zombifier> hampsterblade: How much RAM?
[09:01] <hampsterblade> 6GB AMD 1055T and a GTS 250, but everything seems to craw
[09:01] <hampsterblade> crawl
[09:01] <zombifier> graphic card?
[09:01] <hampsterblade> Nvidia GTS 250
[09:01] <jefimenko> wawowe: still, if i remove bond-slaves, how could the bond know which slave eth to choose the MAC from?
[09:02] <jefimenko> wawowe: i'll try it, but i don't think it will solve it
[09:02] <jefimenko> wawowe: i feel like the bond needs to wait for eth0 to come up instead of cycling polling through eth0 and eth1 until one of them comes up
[09:02] <hampsterblade> On windows I was able to play games at almost full settings, but on ubuntu everything seems to crawl and most games seem to lock up the whole system.
[09:02] <hampsterblade> Even gedit is going slow
[09:03] <zombifier> Is your nvidia driver Noveau or NVIDIA provided?
[09:03] <hampsterblade> latest nvidia binary
[09:03] <sary> Code_Factory: excuse , i forgot that i was upgrading the router firmware.
[09:03] <wawowe> jefimenko: it should choose it from eth0, because it's listed first, ifup should bring it up before eth1
[09:03] <hampsterblade> It's slow with the one provided by ubuntu or the one on the nvidia site.
[09:04] <sary> Code_Factory: am not sure , but when does this skype over use of CPU occurs
[09:04] <zamba> i have a hard drive that's registering 59 degrees C .. what can i do to make it take it easy? :)
[09:04] <zombifier> People keep reporting about the bugginess of the Nvidia-provided drivers
[09:04] <zamba> it's a part of two raids
[09:05] <zombifier> Noveau usually works better
[09:05] <hampsterblade> I could give it a shot, I'd never heard of it til now
[09:05] <fidel_> hampsterblade: as i am experiencing slowness aswell - which might be nv-related here too - what nv card do you have and have you tried the nouveau driver too?
[09:05] <sary> zombifier: indeed , see bug #1001066
[09:06] <hampsterblade> MSI Nvidia GTS 250 Twin Frozer 512MB
[09:06] <zombifier> I have NVIDIA GeForce 210, using Noveau and it's fast as heck
[09:06] <jefimenko> wawowe: i'll try it now. even though ifup brings eth0 up first, what if the link state of eth0 doesn't come up until later (due to the hardware)
[09:06] <hampsterblade> I'll give noveau a shot
[09:06] <fidel_> good luck ;)
[09:06] <hampsterblade> is there an apt repository for it or do I download a driver.  Also do I need to uninstall the nvidia proprietary first?
[09:07] <zombifier> Noveau comes with the Linux kernel. Before you use NVIDIA's driver it's Noveau you're running on
[09:07] <hampsterblade> I see
[09:07] <wawowe> jefimenko: if it doesn't work a simple solution would be to remove auto eth0 and auto eth1 and add something like ifup eth0 && sleep 5 && ifup eth1 to rc.local
[09:08] <zombifier> hampsterblade: Remove NVIDIA's driver, then do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reset your X server to the default settings
[09:08] <maldonado> #cidade
[09:08] <maldonado> #cidade
[09:09] <hampsterblade> twinview will still work right?
[09:09] <sary> maldonado:  /join #channel .
[09:09] <maldonado> #channel
[09:09] <fidel_> zombifier: in case you know it: how would i remove the nv-driver directly from the nv-page? comes usualy as .sh script - but i doubt it has an uninstall routine which i can triger - or am i wrong here?
[09:10] <maldonado> join #channel
[09:10] <fidel_> maldonado: what are you trying to do?
[09:10] <sary> maldonado: /join #cidade
[09:10] <hampsterblade> the shell script has an uninstall option
[09:10] <qbitza> Hello
[09:10] <maldonado> valeu
[09:10] <fidel_> hampsterblade: ok
[09:10] <qbitza> I have a weird RAID issue
[09:10] <dr_willis> hampsterblade:  ive definatly experoienced a nvidia  bug on my system where X will get real sluggish untill i restart the X  server, then it will run fine for a few hrs or days.. then get sluggish again.
[09:10] <qbitza> dmraid -s returns:
[09:10] <qbitza> ERROR: isw: wrong number of devices in RAID set "isw_biaeibhcac_RIAD1" [1/2] on /dev/sdb
[09:11] <qbitza> but cat /proc/mdstat says the device is fine
[09:11] <maldonado> Iḿ is city belo horizonte
[09:11] <jefimenko> wawowe: i removed bond-slaves and it's still a problem
[09:11] <hampsterblade> In my case, anything that uses any graphics brings the whole system to a halt, even things that shouldn't
[09:11] <zombifier> Nouveau does not have Twinview, but it can use sometihng similar to setup a dual monitor
[09:11] <jefimenko> i think delaying bringing up bond0 might solve it
[09:11] <hampsterblade> I see minecraft using about 400% cpu  between all it's processes
[09:11] <maldonado> not speak english
[09:12] <hampsterblade> it should not be using 50-60% of all cores.
[09:12] <fidel_> maldonado: what language do you speak?
[09:12] <zombifier> Just did a quick search, and it's pretty much universally agreed that NVIDIA's driver is buggy and should be avoided
[09:12] <maldonado> portuguese
[09:12] <zombifier> !english
[09:12] <fidel_> !pt > maldonado
[09:13] <wawowe> jefimenko: run ifdown eth1
[09:14] <wawowe> jefimenko: etc and bring them back up one at a time
[09:15] <maldonado> calma
[09:15] <maldonado> jay
[09:15] <fidel_> maldonado: this channel is still english only ;)
[09:16] <maldonado> jay, temos escrever o comando
[09:16] <zombifier> maldonado: like what ubottu "said", join #ubuntu-pt for Portuguese
[09:16] <maldonado> agora, não temos tempo escrever agora
[09:16] <maldonado> vou dormir
[09:16] <maldonado> valeu a dica
[09:17] <fidel_> maldonado: this channel DOES NOT SUPPORT your language
[09:17] <bazhang> !br | maldonado
[09:17] <bazhang> fidel_, better to learn the language factoids
[09:18] <fidel_> bazhang: i tried it above with the !pt > trigger - but he seemd to ignore or misunderstood it
[09:18] <bazhang> fidel_, try and | it next time perhaps, some users have a hard time finding the private message
[09:18] <hampsterblade> so I unistalled the nvidia protected and did the x server reconfig but now minecraft is crashing
[09:18] <fidel_> was willing to minimize the output to the channel - but yeah gonna consider it ;)
[09:19] <dr_willis> i always find it amuseing if i  say 'No Hablo' that they then msg me asking stuff in spanish.... ;P
[09:19] <crizis> hampsterblade: unlikely you get any games working with open driver, both nvidia and ati's open drivers are basically worthless for 3D anything
[09:19] <anos> thor^^: tahnk you. i uninstalled the flash and now it 's work truly
[09:19] <hampsterblade> So basically I'm fucked
[09:19] <ikonia> hampsterblade: that language is unacceptable
[09:20] <hampsterblade> my appologies
[09:20] <ikonia> no problem
[09:20] <hampsterblade> I'm really trying to figure this out, and kind of angry.  I want linux to work.  I hate windows, but this performance is unacceptable
[09:20] <maldonado> quit
[09:20] <dr_willis> hampsterblade:  you chould cheeck the forums and askubuntu.com about your exact video card. there may be some knwon issues  and work arounds.
[09:20] <ikonia> hampsterblade: video cards from ati/nvidia can often be a limiting factor.
[09:21] <Jip> hi
[09:21] <hampsterblade> What else is there.  Intel video cards are crap
[09:21] <dr_willis> I still seem to have the laggy video untill i restart X issue.. every so often.
[09:21] <ikonia> hampsterblade: I've had very positive intel experiences what issues doe you find with the intel cards
[09:21] <dr_willis> Intel Video cards are making very good progress. Definatly not 'crap'
[09:21] <Jip> somehow all logs are written to *.log.1 instead of *.log I googled but didn't find a solution. Anyone here willing to help?
[09:22] <hampsterblade> Well they definitely aren't good for high end gaming rigs
[09:22] <dr_willis> that dosent make them 'crap'
[09:22] <alankila> hampsterblade: and I wish that these fine open drivers we have for things like wlan cards just worked. I keep on hitting issues each time I try a new brand. I'm very thankful that ath9k exists because that driver is one of the few that works (apparently) 100 % glitch-free for me
[09:22] <hampsterblade> Don't even get me started on network issues
[09:22] <hampsterblade> my computer takes 120 seconds to boot on a solid state due to that
[09:23] <alankila> I'm thinking that it's possible that hardware drivers are just too complex for people who are not specialists and lack access to the hardware designer team
[09:23] <jefimenko> wawowe: this is what i was saying: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012809/
[09:23] <alankila> software is hard
[09:23] <hampsterblade> Believe me I know.  I'm developing cyanogenmod for a samsung phone
[09:23] <hampsterblade> Everything is proprietary
[09:24] <alankila> I'm the guy who wrote DSPManager, so funny, I'm a CM developer too I guess
[09:24] <milk_> hummm, hi everybody.  is there a way to improve font rendering in buntu studio 12.04 ? iÄve got loads of color fringing on high contrast text
[09:24] <oober> Hello. I'm trying to work out what the LDAP settings for an installed version of Ubuntu 10.04.3 are. I know it's using LDAP, but /etc/ldap/ldap.conf is empty. I can't ask anyone, as nobody here knows how it's been set up. Any ideas where the configuration might be? It's over SSH so I can't use an GUI tools
[09:24] <jefimenko> wawowe: maybe if i can introduce an ifup delay to eth1
[09:25] <PixelVandalism> Sup guise?
[09:25] <dr_willis> oober:  you could set up X forwarding and use GUI tools. :)
[09:25] <oober> dr_willis: ok, but I don't know the names of the binaries that I would normally launch from the desktop
[09:25] <dr_willis> oober:  try a 'locate ldap' ?
[09:25] <hampsterblade> milk_, install MyUnity and click the font tab
[09:26] <hampsterblade> set antialiasing to rgba and Hinting to medium
[09:26] <milk_> hampsterblade:  thx, does it work in studio? after all its XFCE based
[09:26] <alankila> there is no fix to linux font rendering for time being because the algorithm is not correct
[09:26] <hampsterblade> I'm not sure, I've never used studio
[09:26] <zamba> how do i stop a lvm volume group.. ? i need to stop the underlaying raid
[09:27] <oober> dr_willis: found the empty config file, and a load of so files and other binaries. any idea where the configuration might be?
[09:27] <alankila> I've written about what I believe to be the correct rendering algorithm here: http://bel.fi/~alankila/lcd/
[09:27] <dr_willis> oober:  no idea. i barely know what ldap is. ;)
[09:27] <alankila> but it's never going to happen with XRENDER I think
[09:27] <milk_> strange thing is: in fedora i never had rendering problems -.-   bad luck i guess
[09:27] <alankila> maybe when wayland comes we can write a shader that does the job correctly against 3d hardware or something.
[09:27] <nibbler_> oober, you can use string and/or strace -eopen on the binary, to see where it opens files from
[09:27] <nibbler_> oober, strings, not string, sorry.
[09:28] <oober> nibbler_: great idea but it's a system service, so it's started by init or whatever ubuntu uses, so i can't directly do that without really ripping things apart
[09:29] <PixelVandalism> iTouchOthers, wanna fuck?
[09:29] <iTouchOthers> PixelVandalism: Hiya mate
[09:29] <iTouchOthers> PixelVandalism: Yeah sure thing, do you wanna meet up?
[09:29] <MrMalak> Finaly
[09:29] <MrMalak> I can view youtube on linux
[09:29] <nibbler_> oober, well, then you know where stuff gets started, just use strings on the binary then. or stop the service and start it manually with strings. the init scripts might contain the config directory/file as well.
[09:29] <MrMalak> My GF will get off my back finaly
[09:30] <PixelVandalism> :3
[09:30] <hampsterblade> I really hope nvidia steps up their game for linux when steam comes out
[09:30] <zombifier> Yep
[09:30] <dr_willis> hampsterblade:  i will belive it 3 weeks after it happens...
[09:31] <PixelVandalism> KewlBeans, ;D
[09:31] <hampsterblade> These talks about steam and canocle working together make me very excited
[09:31] <bazhang> !ot | PixelVandalism
[09:31] <niko0o> hi, i need some help with my wlan card. it does connect to wlan but when i use internet, it does not load anything for some time and then it works, it keeps doing that all time. my card is Atheros AR9285. in windows it does work perfectly
[09:32] <speak> Hi! How can I get icons showing when alt+tabbing, for programs I've launched from the terminal? I'm using Ubuntu 12 with Unity
[09:32] <dr_willis> programs i launch from a terminal, do show up when i alt tab.....
[09:32] <Layke> Hey, I'm on a friends system. Totally confused at why using vi from console is totally different to how it is on my machine.. It's hard to explain, but for example, if I press 'i' to start inserting text, then try and move the caret cursor, it starts inserting random letters...
[09:32] <dr_willis> speak:  what programs speifically are causing issues?
[09:33] <Layke> And also, I can't move the caret to the end of the line. In order to delete something for example.
[09:33] <dr_willis> Layke:  the arroe keys are spitting out escape codes.. install the  vim-full package
[09:33] <Layke> dr_willis, Thanks. :)
[09:33] <zombifier> Yeah... Ubuntu only includes a very minimal vim by default
[09:33] <Layke> Um, that version is totally broken. lol. Perhaps I'm just used to vim-full then
[09:33] <speak> dr_willis, Eclipse, IntelliJ Idea, DBViewer at least
[09:34] <alankila> the hyper-minimal vim though is very annoying, imho. It's bad enough that vim has multiple modes, does it really have to have multiple behaviors in every mode too depending on which version you have installed.
[09:34] <speak> dr_willis sorry I was unclear, the programs do show up, but the icon is a big question mark instead of the correct program icon
[09:34] <llutz_> Layke: its not broken, it's "vi"-like, not "vim"
[09:34] <Jip> Hi, i just noticed rsyslog writes everything into auth.log.1 instead of auth.log how can I fix it?
[09:34] <zombifier> speak: What are the programs?
[09:35] <speak> I answered that above, zombifier
[09:35] <Layke> llutz, Yeah, I understand, I was just emphasing my unfamiliarity with it :)(
[09:35] <MrMalak> This is a dumb question I guess but how do I get gnome to run instead of xbuntu?
[09:35] <dr_willis> speak:  thers known issues with java apps not showing up in the panel. Seen some fixs at the askubuntu.com site
[09:35] <Layke> Log out, then select it when you log in from the login screen
[09:35] <PixelVandalism> ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็
[09:35] <PixelVandalism> ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็
[09:35] <FloodBot1> PixelVandalism: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <bazhang> MrMalak, choose from the login window
[09:35] <MrMalak> Ill see if its there I didnt see it when I loged in
[09:35] <speak> dr_willis ah okay, great to know!
[09:35] <speak> I'll check askubuntu.com (although googling around I couldn't find anything)
[09:36] <Layke> MrMalak, You have to click around. It's hidden under a screen you need to click a button to see.
[09:36] <speak> I mostly saw people not having programs show up at all with alt+tab
[09:36] <speak> Anyway, thanks for the help, now I know where to search
[09:37] <neurotus> are there any desktop-xen kernels anywhere ?
[09:37] <neurotus> i get my xen-kernel working but no X
[09:37] <jefimenko> wawowe: i think i solved it by adding a line "pre-up sleep 4" under the eth1 section in the interfaces file
[09:37] <sddhrthrt> hey guys!
[09:38] <sddhrthrt> i have a proxy password that contains an @ in it
[09:38] <jefimenko> wawowe: to delay bringing up eth1 for 4 seconds
[09:38] <sddhrthrt> how do i set it using export http_proxy=username:password@website?
[09:39] <alankila> sddhrthrt: probably use %40 for the @
[09:39] <sddhrthrt> alankila: i'm talking about shell, not html
[09:39] <sddhrthrt> alankila: i never tried, though.
[09:40] <alankila> sddhrthrt: the %40 is the URL encoding for @
[09:40] <MrMalak> Yeah its not in the options on the log in screen though this is still 20 times better
[09:40] <MrMalak> Linux is such a pain in the rear
[09:41] <sddhrthrt> alankila: okay, trying :)
[09:42] <Lufti> hi
[09:42] <Ben64> MrMalak: gnome has to be installed before you can use it
[09:42] <MrMalak> I just installed ubuntu and selected every sing package possible
[09:43] <llutz_> MrMalak: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:44] <MrMalak> Ill check that out if I didnt screw my install up
[09:44] <Lufti> after an update gnome shell was removed from my login screen. I got it from ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3. Though, its possible to enter gnome-shell when using the command gnome-shell --replace. Any idea?
[09:44] <MrMalak> I was in what ever x-windows client that came with it and told it to load the gnome and KDE settings and it looks locked up to me now heh
[09:45] <sddhrthrt> alankila: No, the server says wrong password :/
[09:45] <sddhrthrt> how do i set it using export http_proxy=username:password@website?
[09:45] <sddhrthrt> anyone, please? how do i set it using export http_proxy=username:password@website?
[09:47] <alankila> sddhrthrt: may be it's not even possible. Internet suggests curl, wget, each have their own variant of --proxy-user and --proxy-password
[09:47] <sddhrthrt> not axel. :/
[09:47] <llutz_> sddhrthrt: change password, easiest way
[09:48] <sddhrthrt> llutz_: i dont have a choice, otherwise would i have asked? :D
[09:48] <sddhrthrt> it's the institution proxy
[09:48] <llutz_> sddhrthrt: how would i know
[09:49] <sddhrthrt> llutz_: yeah :P
[09:50] <machdohvah> Was I kicked off a moment ago?
[09:50] <alankila> anyway the idea of exploiting fair queueing algorithms by using multiple concurrent connections is an old hat. I wonder how well it is blocked these days, by accounting flows by source ip for instance
[09:50] <MrMalak> Here is a realy stupid question, I installed and set a user password but not a root password
[09:50] <zombifier> machdohvah: I don't see any record of it
[09:51] <fidel_> MrMalak: first account has sudo privs
[09:51] <MrMalak> now I am trying to log in as root and its not taking the password I gave, is there a default root password?
[09:51] <machdohvah> ty
[09:51] <MrMalak> ok
[09:51] <machdohvah> I just was polite and did not say anything
[09:51] <MrMalak> I tryed the command I was told to install the desktop and it rejected it
[09:51] <MrMalak> Im thinking I might just try to wipe out the hard drive and start over
[09:51] <pijush> hi guys! banshee is crashing a lot
[09:51] <pijush> help plz
[09:52] <zombifier> Yet another proof to why Mono is banished from Ubuntu :P
[09:52] <D[4]ni> is there a way to get the current display refresh rate from a terminal?
[09:54] <alankila> zombifier: in fairness, it's probably not even mono's fault. It's just that the media decoder libraries are all so poorly programmed that they in general have security issues like bad stream causes accesses or writes outside memory regions and such
[09:54] <alankila> this is one of the reasons why it seems that there simply isn't a non-crashing player for large array of file formats
[09:54] <zombifier> ah
[09:55] <levantuan> Hello
[09:56] <levantuan> Hello
[09:56] <levantuan> Can you help me?
[09:56] <zombifier> Just ask your question, no need to introduce yourself
[09:57] <levantuan> ok
[09:57] <levantuan> my name's Tuan
[09:57] <levantuan> I'm from VietNam
[09:57] <zombifier> A Vietnamese I presume
[09:57] <zombifier> nvm
[09:57] <levantuan> sorry
[09:58] <zombifier> I'm Vietnamese too, but let's just get started
[09:58] <levantuan> ok
[09:58] <levantuan> do you know scala programming language
[09:59] <zombifier> levantuan: There's a chatroom for scala: #scala
[09:59] <levantuan> oh
[09:59] <levantuan> ok
[09:59] <levantuan> in creating s test protocol in scala
[09:59] <alankila> I read about some awesome C extension which adds the ability to validate all memory accesses with only very small runtime cost by arranging allocations at 16-byte boundaries and storing a memory table with byte per each 16 bytes recording the log2 of the allocation length at that address.
[10:00] <levantuan> creating test use scala
[10:00] <levantuan> ??
[10:00] <levantuan> can you help me
[10:00] <LjL> levantuan: that's Scala-specific, please ask in #scala instead of here
[10:00] <levantuan> ok
[10:00] <alankila> so the length of any allocation can be acquired by doing int log2len = table[pointer >> 4] and then you can insert the relevant assembly everywhere to check that accesses outside bounds do not happen. I wish media libraries were built with this stuff... it wasn't for gcc though
[10:00] <levantuan> thanks!
[10:01] <LjL> alankila: err... you sure this is the most appropriate channel for this?
[10:01] <deavid> hi, i'm looking for a net-install of Ubuntu Server 12.04 (LTS)
[10:01] <alankila> LjL: hm, you are right. Probably not.
[10:01] <MrMalak> Ok, so I have just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu but I cant seem to launch gnome, I am geting XFCE however it was what I was using before I installed ubuntu
[10:01] <deavid> i tried to download it from ubuntu, but it has a size of 600Mb
[10:01] <MrMalak> I tried the command I was given but it threw an error
[10:02] <MrMalak> does any one have any idea how I might get it to launch?
[10:02] <Tom22> Hello. I'm trying to play COD4 on Ubuntu. I know this isn't a Wine channel, but the question Im gonna ask is this: Are ATI drivers in linux, not as good as NVIDIA? - I've been trying to play COD4 on linux and I am experiencing major lag, whilst everyone who says they got it working seems to be using NVIDIA cards. Is that why? should I get an NVIDIA card to maximise Linux support?
[10:02] <MrMalak> It looks like it at least might be installed its just not in the options on the log in screen
[10:02] <MrMalak> Dont play games on linux and you wont have lag :P
[10:03] <zombifier> Please don't use NVIDIA drivers
[10:04] <MrMalak> Why in the world would any one try to use wine to play games designed for windows? just get a copy of windows and you wont have to wonder why it doesn't work?
[10:04] <gry> MrMalak: because some folks decide to do things in a legal way, I suppose?
[10:04] <zombifier> Because it's more convenient?
 How do I go anywhere else in this XChat-GNOME IRC thing?
[10:05] <Tom22> MrMalak , please don't bother replying if you don't have any help to suggest. I'm trying to migrate from a bloated pain in the ass system, and want my games to run in it. - If thats not possible, then fair enough, but your suggestions aren't helpful.
[10:05] <gry> machdohvah: where do you want to go for example?
[10:05] <zombifier> Tom22: If the current driver don't do you justice, you can install the NVIDIA drivers
[10:06] <Tom22> zombifier I have an ATI card.
[10:06] <zombifier> Oh
[10:06] <zombifier> I thought you were using NVIDIA's
[10:06] <machdohvah> Well, it is embarrassing . I tried to join #gaygeeks, but did not succeed
[10:07] <gry> machdohvah: Channel is blocking unidentified users (+r) and user is not identified
[10:07] <wawowe> Tom22: try adjusting the settings in amcccle
[10:07] <machdohvah> oh, OK
[10:07] <Tom22> wawowe what should I look out for?
[10:07] <wawowe> Tom22: and if you're running some big bloated desktop, losing that will help too
[10:07] <machdohvah> sorry for the intution
[10:07] <machdohvah> intrution
[10:07] <gry> machdohvah: (see '/msg ubottu register' for more details or just 'do it' if you already know :)
[10:07] <wawowe> Tom22: perfomence vs quality
[10:07] <gry> no worries
[10:07] <Tom22> wawowe you mean having windows open? or using gnome?
[10:08] <luiz> o que e isso cocaina
[10:08] <wawowe> Tom22: both
[10:08] <vincenzoml> Hi all. How can I open a recent file from the dash not using the default application?
[10:08] <LjL> !pt | luiz
[10:08] <Tom22> wawowe ah ok, should I try XFCE?
[10:08] <machdohvah> I am just an AIDS patient trying to find the old chat room "Long Term AIDS Survivors"
[10:08] <luiz> o so me manda para o ubutu br
[10:08] <wawowe> Tom22: lower the game resolution and settings a little too
[10:08] <Tom22> wawowe, the game is set to as low as it's possible to go.
[10:08] <wawowe> Tom22: you could, personally i use evilwm. it's like 30kb of memory
[10:09] <Tom22> wowowe it works fine until I go MP, and start seeing smoke, and gun shots, and lots of people, then it lags out.
[10:10] <wawowe> Tom22: in the catalyst settings disable tear free desktop if it's enabled
[10:10] <Tom22> wowowe let me just go upstairs, gonna try it.
[10:11] <wawowe> Tom22: and in 3D modify the "more settings" and "MipMap Detail"
[10:12] <Tom22> wowowe tear free was off already, mipmap is now lowest.
[10:14] <MrMalak> Is there any way to launch KDE or Gnome from XFCE? Maybe a command that I can run in the shell? Im just looking for a work around at this point, I want to go to bed and I don't want to without finding a way to make this work
[10:14] <Tom22> wawowe tear free was off already, mipmap is now lowest.
[10:15] <wawowe> Tom22: try the game again, the only other things you can do and to turn off vertical refresh and use a lighter desktop
[10:16] <wawowe> Tom22: if you have firefox open or something that uses flash close that too
[10:16] <MrMalak> You could also run the game under windows :P
[10:16] <gry> MrMalak: wrong channel.
[10:16] <MrMalak> :D
[10:16] <wawowe> MrMalak: not everyone has a pc designated for games only
[10:16] <Tom22> wawowe only rhythmbox and spotify
[10:16] <wawowe> MrMalak: and imo that would be a waste :p
[10:17] <MrMalak> If you can run a game under wine I suspect the same game could run under windows at least as well as a windows emulator :P
[10:17] <wawowe> MrMalak: spotify probably uses flash, but i've never used it so i'm not sure
[10:17] <wawowe> Tom22: ^^
[10:17] <LjL> MrMalak: why don't you drop it? they already made their view about running the game on Windows vs WINE clear, it's their choice
[10:17] <LjL> and this is an Ubuntu support channel, not a "just go use it on Windows" channel
[10:17] <MrMalak> Hell Im about ready to give up on linux and buy a copy of XP just so I dont have to try to deal with this any more, it took days of effort just to get a recent version of linux to install let alone work like I want
[10:18] <wawowe> MrMalak: use windows then
[10:18] <MrMalak> and I think the guy is talking about a game that was designed to work under windows so maybe I am wrong being a newbie and all but it would seem like it would run best
[10:18] <MrMalak> lol
[10:18] <gry> MrMalak: why are you at this channel then?
[10:18] <MrMalak> Im not trying to run a game thats why
[10:18] <Adonis> can someone help me, how do i print out what is connected to my usb port in /dev/ ??? i have a bluetooth usb stick and need to find out what linux recognises it as?
[10:19] <gry> MrMalak: be cautious, you were kindly suggested to not do that here :)
[10:19] <IdleOne> Adonis: lsusb
[10:19] <MrMalak> Ok, any way, is there some way to execute KDE or Gnome from the shell when you are in XFCE?
[10:20] <wawowe> MrMalak: gnome-session and startkde
[10:20] <MrMalak> Thank you
[10:20] <LjL> MrMalak: probably "gnome-shell" for gnome, and something else for KDE, but it will result in a mess, won't it?
[10:20] <Adonis> IdleOne, then do i use Bus 001 ??? in shell? to run commands using it?
[10:20] <wawowe> MrMalak: you'll have to kill xfwm4 tho
[10:20] <MrMalak> and I am sorry, I am a bit punchy its 6 am and I have been up forever
[10:20] <MrMalak> lol
[10:20] <MrMalak> thats ok I will try to do that
[10:21] <IdleOne> Adonis: what is it you are trying to do and what is the device?
[10:22] <Adonis> trying to run kismet a pentest tool, it asks me whats the name of bluetooth device....
[10:22] <MrMalak> Ok the shell advised me how to install gnome when I tried to run it thank you, sorry for being an ass
[10:22] <Adonis> im asuming it means usb01 or soemthing
[10:23] <MrMalak> I still dont know why any one would want to run games in wine though :P
[10:23] <wawowe> MrMalak: because they want to use linux and they like games :P
[10:23] <IdleOne> Adonis: hmm, sorry can't help you there.
[10:23] <Tom22> wawowe Thank you for your help, performance has risen quite a bit, but it's still not 100% brilliant. I may try a lighter desktop aswell. Does that DE you suggested integrate fine with g* gnome programs?
[10:23] <vincenzoml> MrMalak: to keep all your nice programs running while you play!
[10:24] <MrMalak> Yeah but they would probably run better under the OS they were made for :P
[10:24] <Adonis> IdleOne, thanks anyway mate
[10:24] <tomatto_> hi
[10:24] <MrMalak> Thats true
[10:24] <gry> tomatto_: Hello.
[10:24] <tomatto_> please how can i find out which version of ubuntu i have installed
[10:24] <tomatto_> ?
[10:24] <LjL> !version | tomatto_
[10:24] <vincenzoml> so is there any comfortable way to open a recent/found file from the dash using a non-default program?
[10:24] <MrMalak> I love all of the bot commands to give common replys :D
[10:25] <IdleOne> !ot | MrMalak
[10:25] <wawowe> Tom22: the one i suggested draws a one pixel border around all your windows and you move them either with the keyboard or by holding alt and dragging them with the mouse. ctrl+alt+enter launches and xterm and everything can be launched from the terminal
[10:26] <wawowe> Tom22: alt+tab also works and there are 8 workspaces that you can move between with ctrl+alt+left/right
[10:26] <IdleOne> vincenzoml: I'm not using Unity but does "program file_name" work ? without the quotes of course
[10:26] <wawowe> Tom22: could also setup xbindkeys to launch programs with key combinations if you wanted
[10:26] <tomatto_> LjL: thx
[10:27] <wawowe> Tom22: i love it and won't use anything else. but it's not for everyone. will take some getting used to if migrating from something like gnome
[10:27] <Tom22> wawowe Ah, although I know what I'm doing with Linux, that seems a little bit 'raw' for my tastes. Is there anything inbetween? More like XFCE, but lighter?
[10:28] <wawowe> Tom22: lxde, icewm, jwm
[10:28] <wawowe> Tom22: fluxbox, wmaker
[10:28] <Tom22> wawowe which would you suggest
[10:28] <Tom22> wawowe?
[10:28] <wawowe> Tom22: even e17 would be lighter
[10:29] <machdohvah> I like this XChat better than XChat-GNOME
[10:29] <wawowe> Tom22: in this order, fluxbox, lxde, e17
[10:30] <wawowe> Tom22: you'll probably like lxde the best tho
[10:30] <ubuntu-tryer> hi
[10:30] <frodolab> hi
[10:30] <ubuntu-tryer> on windows 7, how do i check md5sum of my linux iso?
[10:30] <ritz> machdohvah, x-g is pretty broken as of now , patches welcome :)
[10:30] <Tom22> ubuntu-tryer do a google search for md5 hash checker, there's loads. Browse the file and compare it
[10:31] <vincenzoml> IdleOne: sure it works :)
[10:31] <Tom22> wawowe thanks :) which out of those uses the less resources?
[10:31] <wawowe> Tom22: fluxbox
[10:31] <vincenzoml> IdleOne: but maybe it defeats a little bit the usefulness of "recent files" and the search facility in the dash
[10:31] <Tom22> wawowe thanks :) is it in the repos?
[10:31] <machdohvah> Well, I threw it away (uninstalled it) in favor of this one... At least I have a list of users
[10:31] <wawowe> Tom22: yes, and as far as a filemanager you should install pcmanfm
[10:32] <wawowe> Tom22: or thunar
[10:32] <Tom22> wawowe thank you very much for your help. I'll try that now.
[10:33] <curiousx> aloha all :D
[10:33] <IdleOne> vincenzoml: not really, Ubuntu assumes you will be using the default applications. you can change which app is used for certain file types by changing it in the properties of the file
[10:33] <damms005> pls i need to migrate wubi
[10:33] <IdleOne> !wubi | damms005 there is a link on this page that explains how
[10:33] <hampsterblade> Ok so I think my issues may be due to twinveiw. This is the section of xorg.conf  how can i set it to use xrandr instead?
[10:33] <hampsterblade> http://pastebin.com/cRwpPDZL
[10:34] <damms005> pls help on migrating wubi. i read a thread on how to do it on ubuntu forum but my disk is messed up. it has a lot of unallocated space that i can't format
[10:35] <machdohvah> So... I finally found a chat client-server-thingy and would like to find a chat room that I used to be on in Yahoo Messenger, But I do not think it would be a good idea to even try to install Messenger in Wine.
[10:35] <curiousx> damms005: did you try with "dd"
[10:35] <curiousx> i meant formating with dd command
[10:35] <stiv2k> what do i do if it says unable to boot because the cpu is missing pae and cmov
[10:36] <stiv2k> from the live cd
[10:36] <wawowe> machdohvah: pidgin
[10:36] <damms005> wat is dd?
[10:36] <Overlord> Hello
[10:37] <curiousx> !dd | damms005
[10:37] <wawowe> damms005: what happens when you try to format?
[10:37] <curiousx> !info dd | damms005
[10:37] <machdohvah> I am assuming you mean that I should install "pidgin" from the Ubuntu Center
[10:37] <wawowe> damms005: if you do use dd you'll have to be careful
[10:37] <curiousx> =P nothing happend  xD
[10:38] <Dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)    info on the dd command
[10:38] <wawowe> machdohvah: yes, it supports msn and yahoo
[10:38] <machdohvah> ty
[10:38] <machdohvah> bye for now
[10:38] <Qalqi> what is the significance of ~/.xsession file?
[10:38] <curiousx> well, with dd you can erase the whole disk and then you can give a format for that disk
[10:38] <machdohvah> I will uninstall XChat
[10:38] <wawowe> Qalqi: a login manager like xdm executes in on login
[10:39] <Dr_willis> Qalqi,  on the login screen i think theres a 'custom' or 'user defined' entry that runs that session file instead of a normal desktop
[10:39] <Qalqi> my xrdp works only if I have gnome-session --session=gnome written in .xsession file
[10:39] <damms005> I am not having problem installing. I am having problem with my hardisk. Check the snapshot of my hardisk image here. I am very grateful, curiousx http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1990025
[10:39] <Dr_willis> xrdp must be running its own desktop then Qalqi .
[10:39] <curiousx> damms005: the command is some like that: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[10:39]  * Dr_willis never uses xrdp.
[10:40] <MrMalak> ok so I am trying to install KDE now with sudo apt-get kde-workspace-bin and its saying its an invalid operation
[10:40] <Qalqi> Dr_willis: which one should i use then?
[10:40] <curiousx> damms005: search for info with that command, with that command you will format all particions
[10:40] <wawowe> damms005: what curiousx said will erase everything on your hard disk, so make sure that's what you want before you do it
[10:40] <Dr_willis> Qalqi,  i dont know what you are wanting to do.. so no idea.
[10:41] <pcfreak30> Hello, I just did a test upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 in a vps so i tried in my live VPS. I got everything mostly find but now im getting a bunch of dependncy errors with this on th ssh session http://pastie.org/private/aberne1xznw2idcwliy3tg
[10:41] <damms005> Check the snapshot of my hardisk image here.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1990025. I am very grateful to u all
[10:41] <pcfreak30> VPS is using OenVZ btw
[10:41] <pcfreak30> OpenVZ
[10:41] <Qalqi> wat are the other options, Dr_willis? I wanna try a few.
[10:41] <Dr_willis> Qalqi,  i dont know what you are wanting to do......
[10:42] <curiousx> oh! now i understand
[10:42] <wawowe> damms005: which one of those is your windows partition?
[10:42] <Qalqi> I wanna access desktop from my lab. thats all
[10:43] <curiousx> so, you have unallocated space on your disk, and yo wanna to expand a partition in order to use that unalocated space
[10:43] <Dr_willis> Qalqi,  i just use ssh and X forwarding these days
[10:43] <curiousx> well, first at all make backup of your importants files, then okay with partitions
[10:44] <curiousx> then play*
[10:44] <damms005> sda2 is windows partition. thanks wawowe.  http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=218885&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1338282795.
[10:44] <wawowe> damms005: assuming there's nothing on any of those other partitions, remove them
[10:45] <curiousx> dmichael: run gparted and paste an image here
[10:45] <wawowe> damms005: they should be ext4 if you're trying to migrate a wubi install to a full one
[10:46] <damms005> wawowe: you will notice that from my snapshot, http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=218885&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1338282795, there are GiB of used space on those partition
[10:46] <Chuck_Norris> damms005: and append a image in that thread
[10:46] <Chuck_Norris> an*
[10:46] <damms005> wawowe, see the unused space? how do I re-allocate them
[10:46] <wawowe> damms005: i assumed that was from a botched copy job
[10:47] <pcfreak30> any help with this retarded depenency issue. its so low level if i remove the package my system would prob get wiped.
[10:47] <wawowe> damms005: get all your data on one partition
[10:47] <damms005> wawowe, I dont know what botched copy job is. I just snapshoot my Gparted image of my  only sda
[10:47] <wawowe> damms005: make a new partition that is formatted with ext4
[10:48] <pcfreak30> libc6 appears to have  a "subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" crash on install
[10:48] <wawowe> damms005: mount the wubi image and copy the filesystem into it
[10:48] <damms005> A single partition will not contain all my data wawowe
[10:48] <wawowe> damms005: why do you have so many parititions?
[10:49] <blackshirt> what the problem ?
[10:49] <jrib> pcfreak30: well... what kernel are you using
[10:49] <wawowe> damms005: that's kind of an insane windows setup
[10:49] <hampsterblade> Is there a way to change which monitor the launcher shows up on in xinerama?
[10:49] <Chuck_Norris> i ditnt saw the image sry =P
[10:49] <hampsterblade> All the usual ways give me randr errors
[10:49] <damms005> wawowe: because I am a SCREWER. I just don't know much when I was TOYING with my disk. WAWOWE PLEASE DONT JUDGE ME WITH MY IGNORANCE...(shy)
[10:49] <Sidvee> what does :%s/pe/hs mean???
[10:50] <jrib> Sidvee: in vim you mean?
[10:50] <pcfreak30> jrib, 2.6.18-274.7.1.el5.028stab095.1. understand this is a OpenVZ vps. NOT a dedi, laptop or desktop. i upgraded from a 10.04 openvz template.
[10:50] <wawowe> damms005: not judging :P just wondering
[10:50] <Sidvee> jrib: yes
[10:50] <pcfreak30> so the kernel is out of my control
[10:50] <jrib> pcfreak30: contact your provider (see the "WARNING" in what you pasted)
[10:50] <damms005> wawowe: "mount the wubi image and copy the filesystem into it" that is not EASY STRAIGHT. Right?
[10:51] <jrib> Sidvee: :he :s
[10:51] <damms005> wawowe: I like you. You're so kind. Thank you
[10:51] <wawowe> damms005: first you need to get all your data off those extended partitions
[10:51] <Sidvee> jrib: I sill didn't get it. What does that do?
[10:51] <damms005> Okay...
[10:51] <jrib> Sidvee: basically that will replace "pe" with "hs" the first time it happens on each line.  The % is a range that refers to the whole document
[10:51] <pcfreak30> jrib thing is it seems more of an issue in the fact it crashed than the kernel msg.
[10:52] <jrib> pcfreak30: seems like an issue with the kernel version to me
[10:52] <wawowe> damms005: assuming there's nothing of value on sda1, you could erase everything on there and that will open 30gb
[10:52] <Sidvee> jrib: what if i want to replace "pe" with "hs" and all "hs" with "pe". Swap i mean.
[10:53] <damms005> wawowe: I think that is where the WINDOWS BOOTLOADER is.(sda1)
[10:53] <wawowe> damms005: put as much as you can on sda1 and sda2, then shrink sda3 as much as possible
[10:53] <wawowe> damms005: if you're getting rid of windows, you don't need that anymore
[10:53] <jrib> Sidvee: then you would do the exact same thing but switch the location of "pe" with "hs".  If you want the command to affect more than the first instance of the search string, then you should append "/g"
[10:53] <jrib> Sidvee: erm, that wouldn't work, hold on
[10:53] <damms005> wawowe: and I will be able to boot?
[10:54] <jrib> Sidvee: I don't know offhand
[10:54] <wawowe> damms005: your goal is to get rid of windows, isn't it?
[10:54] <Sidvee> jrib:  Yes. Coz that will not swap. rather change the occurence to one
[10:54] <maxcracker> hello
[10:54] <damms005> Yes. and have only LINUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX UBUNTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[10:54] <wawowe> damms005: after ubuntu is setup a new bootloader will be installed
[10:55] <damms005> wawowe: I owe you
[10:55] <Sidvee> jrib: %s/his/her
[10:55] <Sidvee> jrib: %s/his/her will cahnge his to her? what does %s stands for here.
[10:56] <jrib> Sidvee: you're not reading the help I sent you nor what I type
[10:56] <damms005> wawowe: Don't forget that I am not installing from disk. i am migrating wubi....Does this also install another boot?
[10:56] <Dr_willis> id do a normal install. then mount/copy stuff from the existing wubi install
[10:57] <wawowe> damms005: you're going to have to install the bootloader manually, but yes
[10:57] <Sidvee> jrib: Where is the help? I read what you type. % will make the changes in whole document. What about 's'?
[10:57] <jrib> Sidvee: :he :s
[10:57] <jrib> Sidvee: in vim
[10:57] <damms005> wawowe: Does this affect wine (to laod win apps like NOTEPAD++...my best)
[10:57] <Chuck_Norris> damms005: just backup the .wine directory
[10:58] <Benkinooby> hi, does anyone know turn off the backlight of the monitor on a laptop? i'd like to do so in order to use the laptop when there is a lot of sunlight
[10:58] <wawowe> damms005: there are better editors that you don't need wine to run, but if you want to, yes wine can run notepad++
[10:58] <zombifier> Or just use PlayOnLinux, which keeps applications' .wine prefix separate
[10:58] <zombifier> IMO gedit is pretty good at it is
[10:58] <damms005> wawowe: Ao do I install bootloader manually(I don't like this if there is an AUTOMATIC alternative)
[10:58] <Sidvee> jrib: there is no help for :s
[10:58] <jrib> Sidvee: of course there is
[10:58] <Dr_willis> i perfer geany. ;) and it has a windows port
[10:59] <jrib> Sidvee: in your vim session, type ":he :s" without the quotes and then press enter
[10:59] <zombifier> gedit is lighter and cleaner :D
[10:59] <wawowe> damms005: by manually i mean by using the command "grub-install". as far as a gui alternative, i'm not aware of it
[11:00] <damms005> Hey guys, I have not installed WINE yet, but I am saying that since the windows apps are unformatted, I ca still access them, despite that I don't have windows OS(wubi migration)
[11:00] <Chuck_Norris> i prefer nano :D
[11:00] <MagePsycho> how to search folder with name media recursively?
[11:00] <jrib> MagePsycho: you want to search by file name or file contents?
[11:00] <zombifier> EMACS *ducks
[11:00] <damms005> wawowe: Can I do grub-install without migrating?
[11:00] <zombifier> MagePsycho:
[11:00] <MagePsycho> by folder name
[11:00] <zombifier> Oops
[11:01] <wawowe> damms005: yes, but why would you do that?
[11:01] <jrib> MagePsycho: find location_you_want_to_search -name name_pattern_you_want_to_search_for
[11:01] <zombifier> Nautilus can search for files in a folder I think
[11:01] <Aritz_> anyone know how to see what happen to udp packets in linux?
[11:01] <Sidvee> jrib: :help :s worked.
[11:01] <Chuck_Norris> Aritz_: wireshark
[11:01] <MrMalak> I have KDE installed now and running but I am not geting the option to run in on log in, is there anything I can do to force it to start when some one starts xwindows or just logs in?
[11:02] <Sidvee> jrib: for substitute right? And % for the whole document. Ortherwise it will be doing only in first occurance
[11:02] <Sidvee> jrib: Making sense?
[11:02] <damms005> wawowe: I don't want windows to be deciding time-out for my LINUX. like if I boot-up now, the multiboot menu will AUTOMATICALLYselect windows and time-out to 10secs and AUTOMATICALLY load windos
[11:02] <jrib> Sidvee: no, % means on every line, otherwise it only does it on the line you are on now
[11:02] <wawowe> MrMalak: you mean like autologin?
[11:02] <damms005> wawowe: windows is not worth that
[11:03] <Aritz_> Chuck_Norris: i want to monitor in each stack from aplication to link layer
[11:03] <Sidvee> jrib: Okie! :) got it. Thanks. :)
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> damms005  you can change the grub settings
[11:03] <MrMalak> I mean I would like KDE to start rather than XFCE
[11:03] <Aritz_> Chuck_Norris: wireshark wont do
[11:03] <damms005> So how do I do grub-install?
[11:03] <Sidvee> jrib: what is the best way to get started with vim?
[11:03] <jrib> Sidvee: run « vimtutor » in your shell
[11:03] <zombifier> MrMalak: You can select what DE you want to start at the login screen
[11:03] <wawowe> damms005: maybe the migration isn't quite what you want
[11:03] <Sidvee> jrib: is this the best?
[11:04] <jrib> Sidvee: imo, yes
[11:04] <wawowe> damms005: just edit the windows boot.ini and change the default to wubi
[11:04] <MrMalak> Im going to reboot again but I dont think I even get a login screen like that now
[11:04] <MrMalak> I will brb
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> damms005  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[11:04] <ngomes> anyone knows vsftpd-ext package for ubuntu ?
[11:04] <damms005> GEEEEEZZZZ...I mean you guys all are GURUS...... How do I change GRUB settings.......That's not easy as said
[11:04] <Sidvee> jrib: Thanks a lot for answering these lame questions.
[11:04] <jrib> Sidvee: anytime :D
[11:04] <Polah> +
[11:05] <wawowe> MonkeyDust: he's got a wubi install, grub is not installed on his system at the moment, it's pure ntfs and windows
[11:05] <Chuck_Norris> Aritz_: and if you filter by UDP only?
[11:05] <dashavoo> has anyone else had big issues with 12.04 when trying to clone a list of installed packaged from one machine to another with --get-selections and --set-selections?
[11:05] <wawowe> MonkeyDust: so setting up grub would be pointless
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> wawowe  didnt know it was wubi, just entered
[11:06] <Aritz_> anyone know how to see what happen to udp packets in each layer in linux?
[11:06] <Chuck_Norris> !clone | dashavoo
[11:06] <damms005> wawowe: I want ONLY linux, but my fear is these apps...I don't just see replacements. I boot windows because of those not-yet-replaceable apps. That's why. thanks
[11:07] <Dr_willis> damms005,  what apps?
[11:07] <damms005> wawowe: How do I edit just edit :windows boot.ini and change the default to wubi
[11:07] <wawowe> damms005: load up windows and run msconfig, edit the boot sequence so the default is Wubi.mbr
[11:07] <Chuck_Norris> damms005: so... whats are those apps that you run on windows, maybe we can tell ya some alternatives
[11:07] <dashavoo> Chuck_Norris: thanks - does that method do things a lot differently to what I was doing? Or is it the problems with multiarch you were drawing my attention to?
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> damms005  my advice is to install ubuntu using a live cd or usb, not wubi (inside windows)
[11:07] <damms005> wawowe: I think I am not too troublesome. Am I?
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> damms005  you're not, wubi is ;)
[11:08] <Dr_willis> wubi can be very fragile.  0
[11:08] <damms005> willis: Notepad++,
[11:08] <adonis> how do i find out what my ip is when using wirless networking?
[11:08] <Dr_willis> notepad++ ? you are going to stick to windows over a text exitor?
[11:08] <wawowe> damms005: are you a troll?
[11:08] <Chuck_Norris> dashavoo: just i remeber that and i'll tell ubottu that puts that outputs :D
[11:08] <Dr_willis> ive not seen much notepad++ does that other major editors dont.
[11:08] <adonis> !ip
[11:09] <damms005> wawowe: NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[11:09] <gry> o
[11:09] <Chuck_Norris> xD
[11:09] <adonis> !show ip address
[11:09] <damms005> wawowe: I am loving these. You guys just made my day. Thank YOU GOD
[11:09] <adonis> !networking
[11:09] <Dr_willis> and no matter what notepad++ does.. i bet emacs or vi can do it 100 different ways. :)
[11:09] <adonis> !resolv.conf
[11:09] <wawowe> damms005: yw :)
[11:10] <D[4]ni> is there a way to find out the name of the mainboard as non-root without installing extra packages?
[11:10] <Chuck_Norris> damms005: there is no problem running notepad++ with wine
[11:10] <Dr_willis> you normally dont want to use a windows text editor to edit text files on your linux system either.. it can cause weird.. issues
[11:11] <damms005> MonkeyDust: How do I do new CD install without loosing my presently ENRICHED and PIMPED wubi version(settings, installed apps, etc)
[11:11] <Chuck_Norris> Chuck_Norris warranted
[11:11] <zombifier> damms005: back up everything in your home folder, including hidden folders
[11:12] <Chuck_Norris> damms005: but... why not back up your files and do a clean install and that's all
[11:12] <damms005> Not very heavy editing: I just do some WEB codings that's all
[11:13] <Adonis> anyone help me with resolv.conf????
[11:13] <damms005> GUYYSSSS: I want a clean install but problem is getting my EXACT PRESENT LINUX. I am confused. WUBI MIGRATE or CD NEW INSTALL WITHOUT LOSS
[11:13] <blackshirt> Adonis: what the problem? describe more detail ...
[11:13] <wawowe> Adonis: what as your problem?
[11:14] <Chuck_Norris> !anyone | Adonis
[11:14] <zombifier> damms005: You can backup your entire partition
[11:14] <zombifier> Just copy / into another drive
[11:14] <D[4]ni> my irc client just crashed, did anyone answer me? :<
[11:14] <zombifier> What was your question again?
[11:14] <Adonis> my resolv.conf is standard set to 10.0.0.1, but when its like this i cannot connect to irc, so someone to me to change it to 8.8.8.8 and it works, only something keeps chanign it back to 10.0.0.1 !!!!
[11:14] <gry> D[4]ni: about what?
[11:15] <damms005> GUYS: like backup my /root, new clean CD install ,delete new /root of new install and replace with /root of previous wubi and viola!!!!!!!!
[11:15] <D[4]ni> i asked about 2 minutes ago how to find out the mainboard name as non-root (is that even possible?)
[11:16] <wawowe> Adonis: add 8.8.8.8 to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[11:16] <Chuck_Norris> Adonis: append "nameserver 8.8.8.8" and "nameserver 8.8.4.4" without quotes in the "resolv.conf" file
[11:16] <wawowe> Adonis: nameserver 8.8.8.8
[11:17] <damms005> wawowe: if i load up windows and run msconfig, edit the boot sequence so the default is Wubi.mbr....: Will I still have option/opportunity to boot into windows?
[11:17] <gbqw435> Get ENDLESS gadgets on www.nycdental.us Come visit!
[11:17] <Adonis> there is no  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d file
[11:17] <DJones> gbqw435: No spam here thanks
[11:18] <wawowe> damms005: everything will freeze and wubi will install the infamous ubuntis bios virus if you change that file
[11:18] <wawowe> Adonis: what's in /etc/resolvconf ?
[11:19] <Adonis> !resolv.conf
[11:19] <Adonis> update-libc.d
[11:19] <wawowe> Adonis: /etc/resolvconf
[11:19] <wawowe> Adonis: not resolv.conf
[11:19] <Adonis> yea thats where i am /etc/resolv.conf
[11:20] <Adonis> and only file in there is update-libc.d
[11:20] <MagePsycho> I have one issue guys, i tried to zip the current directory using: tar -zcvf www.tar.gz --exclude=media *   but prolem is that it excluded all the media directory other than the root
[11:20] <gbqw435> Get ENDLESS gadgets on www.nycdental.us Come visit!
[11:20] <wawowe> Adonis: create a folder called resolv.conf.d in there
[11:20] <gbqw435> Get ENDLESS gadgets on www.nycdental.us Come visit!
[11:21] <gbqw435> Get ENDLESS gadgets on www.nycdental.us Come visit!
[11:21] <wawowe> Adonis: and: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" >> /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[11:22] <damms005> wawowe:Pls  don't leave me at this point: you said I can run msconfig and all will be fine...again u said "everything will freeze and wubi will install the infamous ubuntis bios virus if you change that file" PLEASE
[11:22] <wawowe> damms005: ok, sorry for my outburst
[11:22] <wawowe> damms005: it just gets so stressful u kno
[11:23] <wawowe> damms005: how can i please you
[11:23] <damms005> wawowe: I am confused:
[11:24] <mitsuhiko> hey everybody. any ideas why upstart might hang on starting a process of mine? "expect fork/daemonize" do not help.
[11:24] <mitsuhiko> it basically just hangs there doing nothing on service start
[11:25] <Dr_willis> could be its not launching whatever binary you are telling it to - to the background so the service can continue on. ie 'commandtorun &' vs just 'command'
[11:25] <damms005> wawowe: You said I can run msconfig and all will be fine...THEN AGAIN YOU SAID:  "everything will freeze and wubi will install the infamous ubuntis bios <<<VIRUS>>> if you change that file".
[11:25] <mitsuhiko> Dr_willis: the process daemonizes from the command line properly
[11:26] <damms005> wawowe:Everything will freeze and wubi will install the infamous ubuntis bios <<<VIRUS>>> if you change that file". What are the "things" that are going to "freeze" and how malicious is the "virus". Sorry
[11:27] <wawowe> bastard
[11:27] <mitsuhiko> Dr_willis: what's even weirder is that it works for one script but not for another
[11:28] <mitsuhiko> salt-master works, salt-minion fails
[11:28] <Anom> Hmm, Any reason why this http://bpaste.net/show/JB32P3eHPWpEeUbXT5mf/ is producing the following output hostname: Unknown host
[11:28] <mitsuhiko> Anom: what's in /etc/hostname must also be a name for 127.0.0.1
[11:28] <mitsuhiko> add it to the 127.0.0.1 line before localhost
[11:29] <mitsuhiko> also add the fqdn to it as well
[11:29] <mitsuhiko> eg: 127.0.0.1 myhost myhost.example.com localhost
[11:29] <damms005> pls help wawowe said: "Everything will freeze and wubi will install the infamous ubuntis bios <<<VIRUS>>> if you change that file" .<br/>Pls what are the "things" that are going to "freeze" and how malicious is the "virus". Sorry
[11:29] <Dr_willis> damms005,  err.. that was a rather pathic joke....
[11:29] <tsuser> pxe boot menu is not showing while using fog
[11:30] <wawowe> damms005: everything will
[11:30] <wawowe> damms005: your fans will stop working and your computer will blow up
[11:30] <Chuck_Norris> Anom: paste here your prompt
[11:30] <zombifier> wawowe: that's the stupidest thing I have ever heard
[11:30] <zombifier> *seen
[11:32] <damms005> Chuck_Norris: wawowe said: "Everything will freeze and wubi will install the infamous ubuntis bios <<<VIRUS>>> if you change that file". What are the "things" that are going to "freeze" and how malicious is the "virus". Sorry
[11:32] <Aritz_> \anyone know how to see what happen to udp packets in linux?
[11:32] <Chuck_Norris> damms005: idk, damms005 Chuck Norris recommend ya that backups your files and do a clean install
[11:33] <wawowe> damms005: alright, i submit. you are the winner
[11:33] <damms005> Dr_willis: So pathetic. I am considering suing wawowe for that. (Don't worry, the courtyard is behindmy house and  I am willing to sponsor your flight...lol)
[11:33] <damms005> wawowe: PLS back to seriousness now. So why is GRUB not installed automatically when I wubi-installed ubuntu?
[11:33] <Aster> Is there a way to make Ubuntu 12.04 treat a USB flash drive containing 11.10 as an update.
[11:33]  * Dr_willis could have had ubuntu intalled 2 times and configured just how he likes it by now damms005 ........
[11:34] <Guest55695> damms005: because you are using wubi. wubi installs 'inside' of a Windows partition and uses the Windows bootloader to start ubuntu.
[11:34] <OerHeks> Aster, 11.10 as an update for 12.04? NO !
[11:34] <wawowe> Aster: why would you want to do that?
[11:34] <Aster> Because 12.04 sucks.
[11:34] <Aster> And I want my 11.10 back.
[11:35] <Chuck_Norris> Aster: i don't agree
[11:35] <OerHeks> Aster, then reinstall, no downgrade possible
[11:35] <Dr_willis> I will stick with 12.04
[11:35] <wawowe> Aster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto
[11:35] <Aster> OerHeks, is there a way of reinstalling while keeping all the stuff in my home folder?
[11:35] <Aster> wawowe, Internal Server Error
[11:36] <wawowe> Aster: refresh
[11:36] <OerHeks> !nounity
[11:36] <savr> hi
[11:36] <Chuck_Norris> and the faty google's employe says in the UDS: "I just wanna start saying somthing... Preceise rock!!" :D and all respond Yeah!!! :D
[11:36] <savr> the 3.4 kernel ppa 64bit download says 32bit in the description
[11:36] <OerHeks> Chuck_Norris, is that helpfull ?
[11:36] <wawowe> Aster: if you remove every folder except your home dir and reinstall without formatting, then your home will still be there when it's done
[11:36] <Chuck_Norris> OerHeks ?
[11:36] <wawowe> Aster: i don't know if the ubuntu install has an option to "not format" though
[11:36] <Aster> "Perl script" No thanks.
[11:37] <Chuck_Norris> hey! i made the post about mah conky :D
[11:37] <Chuck_Norris> but i can't see it =(
[11:37] <Chuck_Norris> OerHeks: when ill be able to see it ?
[11:37] <damms005> wawowe: my question is still unanswered: 1. Can I do grub-install now?(without doing wubi-migration)...2.Why is GRUB not made my default bootloader when I wubi-installed ubuntu? Thakns my guys
[11:37] <wawowe> Aster: the second method on that page does not use a perl script
[11:38] <wawowe> damms005: ask someone else :)
[11:38] <damms005> PLLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSSSSSSSSS...I am not that BBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDD
[11:39] <ikonia> damms005: please don't do that
[11:39] <wawowe> damms005: sorry i'm just not in the mood for that type of fun right now :P, plus i'll go down too
[11:39] <OerHeks> Chuck_Norris, last post was a week ago.
[11:40] <damms005> sorry
[11:40] <Chuck_Norris> nop, i tell ya, i made a post in: http://ubuntuforums.org in the: "tips and tricks" section
[11:41] <damms005> To Everybody: SORRY
[11:41] <Dr_willis> damms005,  wubi dosent use grub...
[11:41] <Dr_willis> bbl
[11:41] <Chuck_Norris> about mah conky config, but i can not see it and a few minutes ago i saw a new thread on that section, but it wasnt mah thread :(
[11:41] <ngomes> anyone with chroot issues on vsftpd on 12.04 ?
[11:42] <damms005> Dr_willis: then if i follow the instruction to migrate wubi, does it mean that windows is still in charge?(I read that GRUB is a bootloader)
[11:42] <wawowe> ngomes: what issues are you having?
[11:43] <ngomes> wawowe, looks like 12.04 version of vsftpd cant use normal chroot no more
[11:43] <hampsterblade> I'm having some weird issues setting up dual monitors.  With twinview the two monitors are different resolutions which causes a lot of issues.
[11:43] <hampsterblade> But with xinerama I can't get the launcher on the right display
[11:43] <ikonia> hampsterblade: thats not uncommon with twinview
[11:43] <ngomes> wawowe, needs some parameter on config , but that allow users to go to /home , seeing others users stuff
[11:44] <wawowe> ngomes: i usually do homedir chroots and they still work for me atm using 12.04
[11:44] <ngomes> wawowe, chroot is done on /home and not on each users home
[11:44] <hampsterblade> also with twinview I had terrible performance, with xinerama, things are working a lot better
[11:44] <ikonia> hampsterblade: yes, because xinerma doesn't use the 3d modules
[11:44] <wawowe> ngomes: /home?
[11:44] <ngomes> wawowe, yes
[11:44] <ikonia> hampsterblade: twinview is normally a better option, however certain situations will make it problematic/less suitable
[11:44] <wawowe> ngomes: pastbin your vsftpf.conf
[11:45] <ngomes> k
[11:45] <damms005> Dr_willis: wawowe: what happens if i edit /etc/default/grub file and to the custom scripts located in /etc/grub.d. now without migrating? (sorry for this so dull question)
[11:45] <hampsterblade> The problem I'm having is if I set my right monitor as monitor 0, dragging icons between the windows breaks, but if I set the right monitor as monitor 1 I can't get the launcher on that window
[11:46] <ikonia> hampsterblade: "breaks" ?
[11:46] <hampsterblade> I can't get all the way to the right side of the window, If I drag an icon it goes across the left monitor twice
[11:47] <ikonia> hampsterblade: sounds like a problem caused by the different resolutions
[11:47] <damms005> if I migrate wubi, will GRUB boot take over from windows automatically?
[11:47] <ngomes> wawowe, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012966/
[11:47] <hampsterblade> That is my guess, but there has to be a way to do this
[11:47] <hampsterblade> I can't give up the nvidia drivers as I need the 3D for a few games
[11:47] <ikonia> hampsterblade: yes, but you may have to accept the limitations
[11:48] <Pici> damms005: I would assume so. It would be a rather useless migration if you couldn't boot to it.
[11:48] <hampsterblade> Limitations are it simply doesn't work at all
[11:48] <hampsterblade> What I want is simple dual monitors with the launcher on the right window
[11:48] <ikonia> hampsterblade: becuase of your setup
[11:48] <ikonia> hampsterblade: try running it on one monitor to get an idea of how well your card works
[11:48] <hampsterblade> My card works fine in single window mode
[11:48] <hampsterblade> And in xinerama
[11:49] <ikonia> hampsterblade: ok, so you know your card has reasonable base support with the nvidia module
[11:49] <hampsterblade> but in twinview it brings the system to a crawl
[11:49] <ikonia> hampsterblade: the issue seems to be caused by twinview and the different screen resolutions, which as I've said is not massivly uncommon
[11:49] <wawowe> ngomes: create a test user to login with and see if it still chroots to /home instead of their actual home directory
[11:49] <hampsterblade> minecraft was eatting 400% cpu and even gedit was lagging
[11:49] <damms005> Like GRUB now being in charge of timing linux by default
[11:49] <savr>  hi, during boot I got a iomon / pci error
[11:49] <savr>  which log should I be looking for this error?
[11:50] <ikonia> hampsterblade: I doubt it was eating %400 cpu as that's not possible
[11:50] <hampsterblade> htop representation
[11:50] <hampsterblade> 4 full cores out of 6
[11:50] <ngomes> wawowe, i have 2 users on vps ...
[11:50] <ikonia> as the rending would not effect the cpu
[11:50] <ikonia> hampsterblade: that is possible that java is causing that issue
[11:50] <hampsterblade> almost like it wasn't using my graphics card at all
[11:50] <ikonia> hampsterblade: have a look at running this in a single mode and just see what happens
[11:50] <ikonia> (single monitor mode)
[11:50] <hampsterblade> in xinerama the cpu is sitting low as it should
[11:51] <wawowe> ngomes: useradd -m -s /bin/bash test
[11:51] <ikonia> hampsterblade: yes, but you are not using 3d capabilities
[11:51] <wawowe> ngomes: passwd test
[11:51] <ikonia> hampsterblade: hence why I'm saying use the single monitor mode with the nvidia module and test it
[11:51] <wawowe> ngomes: ftp test@127.0.0.1
[11:51] <hampsterblade> I don't understand what you mean by using 3d capabilities?
[11:51] <damms005> Pici: since partition will be changed after migration, don't you think booting linux will be affected?
[11:51] <ikonia> hampsterblade: xinerama can't support the 3d capabilities of the cards in dual head mode
[11:52] <Sidewinder> damms005, If you really wish to know more about GRUB, might I suggest that you look here? http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[11:52] <Pici> damms005: Yes, which is why I believe  that the migration would need to install GRUB itself.
[11:53] <damms005> Thanks Pici, Thanks Sidewinder. Off I go to migration
[11:53] <Sidewinder> NP
[11:54] <ngomes> wawowe, 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()
[11:54] <hampsterblade> single monitor mode it seems to be fine
[11:54] <ngomes> wawowe, looks like u have a older version of vsftpd (<2.3.5)
[11:54] <hampsterblade> in twinview i had lightdm eating a lot of cpu, not the case with single monitor
[11:55] <wawowe> ngomes: wast that when you tried to login or when you restarted vsftpd
[11:55] <ikonia> hampsterblade: ok, so it sounds like there is a problem with twinview
[11:55] <ngomes> wawowe, login
[11:55] <ikonia> hampsterblade: you'll need to contact nvidia and log a bug if it's a bug with the module against your card in twinview mode
[11:55] <ngomes> wawowe, dpkg -l |grep -i vsftp
[11:55] <ngomes> wawowe, your version is ... ?
[11:56] <hampsterblade> ahh, not what I wanted to hear...  I really wish I could ge tit working
[11:56] <wawowe> ngomes: in your conf enable ftpsecure user, but set it to "ftp"
[11:56] <wawowe> ngomes: and if you don't have one add the ftp user
[11:56] <smellydog> top
[11:56] <ikonia> hampsterblade: as it's closed source, nothing can really be done to seriously work out what's going on or really fix
[11:56] <wawowe> ngomes: 2.3.5-1ubuntu2
[11:56] <PunTrbuh> hi, what is changing/rewriting my resolv.conf ? inside it is a warning not to change it because it will be overwritten, but it doesn't say by what
[11:56] <ikonia> hampsterblade: you can only narrow it down to the most realistic option and then contact the right peeople
[11:57] <ikonia> PunTrbuh: dnsmasq
[11:57] <PunTrbuh> thank you
[11:57] <damms005> Pls can you have a look at this and suggest how i can remove the three unallocated space to make them useful? http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=218885&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1338282795
[11:57] <hampsterblade> I just wish nvidia would support xrandr like everyone else
[11:57] <hampsterblade> works so simply
[11:57] <ngomes> wawowe, what parameter is that ?
[11:57] <ikonia> hampsterblade: again, contacting nvidia would be the way to raise that
[11:57] <wawowe> ngomes: nopriv_user
[11:58] <damms005> Bigger image:  http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=218885&d=1338282795
[11:59] <ngomes> wawowe, so nopriv_user=ftp
[11:59] <wawowe> ngomes: and allow_writeable_chroot=YES
[12:00] <wawowe> ngomes: and useradd -M -s /bin/false ftp
[12:01] <damms005> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=218885&d=1338282795: that is about 23GiB unallocated free space that I can backup into if they are allocated. I don't know how to allocate them.
[12:01] <Benkinooby> !dev
[12:01] <Benkinooby> !dev-irc
[12:02] <ngomes> wawowe, 500 OOPS: unrecognised variable in config file: allow_writeable_chroot
[12:02] <ngomes> wawowe, can u send me your config ?
[12:02] <damms005> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=218885&d=1338282795: pls is there a way to allocate the unallocate spaces in this Gparted snapshot?
[12:03] <angs> how to set password on ubuntu?
[12:03] <angs> root psw
[12:03] <robotdevil> wow I just read canoical is dropping kubuntu ^&%^&*(&()*&^%$#@##^^(*(_)
[12:05] <savr>  hi, during boot I got a iomon / pci error
[12:05] <savr>  which log should I be looking for this error?
[12:05] <susundberg> probably /var/log/kern.log
[12:05] <wawowe> ngomes: hold on, just relized i have the same issue :P
[12:05] <ngomes> wawowe, :)
[12:05] <smellydog> hi, I have 12.04 (uname output: Linux ubuntunas 3.2.0-24-generic-pae #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 21 18:54:21 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux) and an ASUS E35M1-M(AMD APU with ATI graphic), my system hang if I use "halt" from command line, leaving a purple screen.   But the "shutdown -h now" works fine...
[12:05] <ngomes> wawowe, http://www.benscobie.com/fixing-500-oops-vsftpd-refusing-to-run-with-writable-root-inside-chroot/
[12:07] <damms005> okay wawowe. make this my last
[12:08] <Lejda> hey guys
[12:08] <Lejda> how can i change kayboard layout in command line
[12:08] <OerHeks> smellydog halt should stop the system. so it works fine ( use halt --poweroff )  >> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/reboot.8.html
[12:08] <Benkinooby> hi, could anyone on a laptop please paste me the output of 'cat /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/DD04/brightness'?
[12:10] <wawowe> ngomes: local_root=/home works
[12:10] <wawowe> ngomes: but only chroots to /home
[12:10] <savr> thanks susundberg
[12:10] <Dave234082734> Hello, I just upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 and I finally got pulse audio to recognize the built-in audio, however it is only recognizing the digital output and I need it to recognize the audio output..
[12:10] <Benkinooby> hi, could anyone on a laptop please paste me the output line of 'cat /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/DD04/brightness | grep levels'?
[12:11] <Dave234082734> The analog audio output.
[12:11] <savr>  sdhci-pci 0000:09:00.1: Invalid iomem size. You may experience problems.
[12:11] <savr> that was the error
[12:14] <damms005> pls if i migrate wubi, will grub-menu be installed automatically?
[12:14] <wawowe> ngomes: i added local_root=/home/ftp
[12:14] <damms005> Pls if I migrate wubi, will grub-menu be installed automatically?
[12:15] <wawowe> ngomes: and chown -R ftp. /home/ftp
[12:15] <wawowe> ngomes: then edited /etc/group and added users to the ftp group
[12:15] <ngomes> wawowe, can u send me your config please
[12:16] <su_> how do i uninstall a ,deb file if it does not display as an installed app in precise pangolin? i installed the .deb from the new software thingie
[12:16] <su_> from right clicking on the .deb
[12:16] <wawowe> ngomes: one sec
[12:17] <wawowe> ngomes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012986/
[12:17] <su_> i think i installed the wrong version of nixnote (32 bit)
[12:17] <speak> Hi! When I have my terminal full screen by F11, Alt+Tabbing to certain applications (ThunderBird, DBViewer at least) doesn't bring them to the front. What could be wrong?
[12:19] <wawowe> ngomes: add yourself to the ftp group
[12:19] <wawowe> ngomes: i got home chroots working
[12:21] <wawowe> ngomes: you may not need to do that actually
[12:21] <damms005> bye all
[12:22] <wawowe> ngomes: i changed everything back, only thing that's different in my conf is i commented out chroot_local_user=YES
[12:22] <giuseppe_> salve
[12:22] <ngomes> wawowe, i getting users to jump to /home and see others users dir
[12:23] <geeza> hi
[12:23] <geeza> What is the EASIEST linux version (that has most needed software installed) that I can install for my retarded wife?
[12:23] <wawowe> ngomes: there's mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012991/
[12:23] <su_> I'm sorry to be a noob with this. Does anyone have any ideas. I'm not savvy with removing packages from the terminal -- Screenshot:: http://i.imgur.com/h1aRD.png
[12:24] <PunTrbuh> consider buying less retarded wife. Russian ones have free shipping
[12:24] <geeza> im stuck with this one
[12:24] <savr> thanks susundberg fixed the problem with a google search and the correct error
[12:24] <PunTrbuh> Then you're stuck with mentoring her no matter the distribution. Since you're on this chan, i'll say you already know what you'll use
[12:26] <anon17> i dont mean to spam .. .. ->> please see my blog www.fl4shbang.blogspot.com ..>> u will like it :)
[12:26] <wawowe> ngomes: yea, it's not a chroot though
[12:26] <ikonia> anon17: if you don't mean to spam - don't spam,
[12:26] <wawowe> ngomes: so not resolved
[12:27] <ngomes> wawowe, -.- lol
[12:27] <geeza> ok. linux mint it is
[12:27] <ngomes> wawowe, http://www.benscobie.com/fixing-500-oops-vsftpd-refusing-to-run-with-writable-root-inside-chroot/
[12:28] <wawowe> ngomes: didn't see anything on that page that works
[12:28] <su_> *sigh* anyone?
[12:28] <PunTrbuh> geeza: from my expirience with wife, stick to distro you use, she fancied SuSe , i had hell of a time explainin to her not everything si same when she sits at a nother distro
[12:28] <cypher-neo> geeza, I like XFCE Voyager. It has ridiculously amounts of extras installed!
[12:28] <ikonia> su_: please don't both with the "sigh anyone" stuff, just wait for a response
[12:28] <ngomes> wawowe, yeah , it will always have access to /home , but looks like vsftpd-ext with parameter works , but there's no package
[12:32] <wawowe> ngomes: another option could be to chmod 444 certain home directories and make a writable one in it
[12:32] <Pici> su_: sudo dpkg -r nixnote
[12:32] <su_> you know what? it's my birthday today, i'm homeless and one of my molars jjust freaking cracked in half. All I did was ask a question. and got no response whatsoever. Someone could have said *something* to me
[12:32] <su_> thank you!
[12:32] <su_> i am so sorry, i'm just struggling emotionally right now
[12:33] <wawowe> ngomes: chmod 555
[12:34] <su_> hmm says no installed package. i guess i can just use the web interface. I'm sorry for bothering you all
[12:34] <OerHeks> su_  "<su_> how do i uninstall a ,deb file if it does not display as an installed app in precise pangolin?" >>  so it is not installed then.
[12:34] <wawowe> ngomes: just tested it and it works
[12:35] <ngomes> wawowe, that doesnt that "W" (write)  on ssh
[12:35] <ngomes> write permissions
[12:36] <wawowe> ngomes: make a directory inside the home that they have write access to
[12:36] <wawowe> ngomes: tested with ssh too
[12:38] <speak> Hi! When I have my terminal full screen by F11, Alt+Tabbing to certain applications (ThunderBird, DBViewer at least) doesn't bring them to the front. What could be wrong?
[12:39] <kjelle> Hey, is it possible to start mplayer (with e.g. webcam) as the screensaver. If you move the mouse/keyb, you need to enter credentials, while the webcam is in the background..?
[12:39] <ngomes> wawowe, 555 then ?
[12:40] <wawowe> ngomes: chmod 555 /home/test; mkdir /home/test/ftp; chown -R test. /home/test/ftp
[12:41] <linvex> hello
[12:42] <wawowe> ngomes: and re-enable chroot_local_users in vsftpd
[12:42] <linvex> quit
[12:43] <wawowe> ngomes: anything that the users need by default can be added to /etc/skel
[12:43] <wawowe> ngomes: they are still capable of editing things like .bashrc the just can't create them
[12:44] <ngomes> wawowe, yeah 555 with passwd_chroot_enable=yes worked
[12:44] <ngomes> looks like its solved by now
[12:44] <edinny> I am having problems compiling which seem to be linked to libsigc++
[12:45] <ngomes> workaround but solved
[12:45] <ngomes> thanks for your time wawowe
[12:45] <edinny> I am having problems compiling which seem to be linked to libsigc++.  suggestions?
[12:45] <HRH_H_Crab> hi, whenever i log in to ubuntu it nags me that it wants to fsck sde3 on next boot.
[12:46] <HRH_H_Crab> problem is that i dont have an sde3 so this never actually happens.
[12:46] <HRH_H_Crab> i think this is related to udev
[12:46] <HRH_H_Crab> and a mixture of ide / sata drives
[12:46] <HRH_H_Crab> and some sort of dynamic re-enumeration during the boot process.
[12:46] <Dr_willis> HRH_H_Crab,   check output of sudo blkid, and sudo fdisk -l
[12:46] <HRH_H_Crab> can anyone assist?
[12:46] <Dr_willis> a pastebin of it may help the channel
[12:46] <Dr_willis> also your /etc/fstab fole
[12:47] <Dr_willis> file
[12:47] <HRH_H_Crab> Dr_willis: its not listed in the output of blkid
[12:48] <HRH_H_Crab> Dr_willis: its also not listed in the output of fdisk
[12:48] <HRH_H_Crab> it /was/ incorrectly set in fstab
[12:48] <HRH_H_Crab> but ive corrected it and rebooted since.
[12:48] <stuppy> strange observance. I dual-boot with XP and have a shared data partition(NTFS). in Ubuntu, it's visible in the list of drives in nautilus and is opened when clicked but doesn't display the full dir contents. however, a simple ls in terminal reveals everything (not hidden directories)? any insight? instantly important for uploading to websites that use file browser to select multiple files.
[12:49] <suitcase> anyone familiar with LDAP ?
[12:49] <Shinobi> How do I install perl DBD::ODBC successfully? The CPAN install keeps erroring out.
[12:51] <Pici> Shinobi: install the libdbd-odbc-perl package.
[12:51] <x-ip> hi, seems pidgin isnt working in ubuntu precise, is only my problem ? i installed it with the software center, but when i click the icon it doesnt open any window
[12:52] <HRH_H_Crab> Dr_willis: (or anyone else that can assist): http://pastebin.com/QU37r72Q
[12:52] <linvex> really? i have no problem to run it.
[12:52] <x-ip> hmm ok, i killed the process and launched it again and now it works :"|
[12:53] <linvex> i think it just a little problems
[12:53] <HRH_H_Crab> i suspect this is related to the mess which happens every time i dist-upgrade,
[12:53] <HRH_H_Crab> whereby the installer decides that it wants to install grub to one of my raid drives.
[12:54] <Dr_willis> ive no experince with raid.. other then know to stay away from it. from what i see in here. ;)
[12:54] <linvex> my os is backtrack that bases ubuntu 11.0
[12:54] <Dr_willis> i never dist upgrade either,
[12:54] <hayate> Software raid or hw raid?
[12:54] <Dr_willis> linvex,  backtrack has its own support channels. and is really not ment as a 'daily' use type os. its more for specific cases.
[12:55] <linvex> yes,you are right
[12:55] <hayate> Linvex, dr_willis true
[12:55] <Shinobi> Pici: Sweet! Thanks!
[12:55] <HRH_H_Crab> Dr_willis: the raid is fine.
[12:55] <HRH_H_Crab> the problem is that ubuntu keeps changing its mind about what disks are called.
[12:56] <HRH_H_Crab> and the problem is basically because something cant cope with the fact that someone might have a system with ide AND sata drives installed.
[12:56] <HRH_H_Crab> (or at least i think thats the problem)
[12:56] <linvex> raid?
[12:56] <HRH_H_Crab> linvex: check my pastebin url
[12:56] <Dr_willis> HRH_H_Crab,  I had an IDE and sata mixxed system   ages ago. :)
[12:56] <alankila> HRH_H_Crab: that is why you use the uuid
[12:57] <Dr_willis> but i dident raid them all together.
[12:57] <DeltaHeavy> HRH_H_Crab: I've run a system with a mixed system and it worked fine.
[12:57] <Dr_willis> i did accidently format hda when it was called sda with the change to libata. :)
[12:58] <HRH_H_Crab> alankila: do you understand my problem?
[12:58] <alankila> HRH_H_Crab: I imagine your problem is that sometimes some device is sda and sometimes it's say sdc instead
[12:58] <linvex> sorry.i use IRC firstly
[12:58] <HRH_H_Crab> do you think that changing the fstab entry from / = /dev/sda3 to / = uuid will fix it?
[12:58] <HRH_H_Crab> alankila: yes i think so.
[12:58] <alankila> since linux's device naming policy is not stable, the use of UUID will solve the problem
[12:58] <HRH_H_Crab> ill give it a go.
[12:59] <Dr_willis> err.. yea.. definatly do NOT use sda/sdwhatever type names. ;)
[12:59] <DeltaHeavy> alankila: How is it not stable? Not trying to cause a fuss, I just did'nt know that.
[12:59] <alankila> you can check out the UUID's right now from /dev/disk/by-uuid, or using blkid /dev/sda3 or such
[12:59] <hayate> New release use uuid naming
[12:59] <kapz> I installed ubuntu on SSD it takes 25 secs to boot from post...how can I make it faster?
[12:59] <alankila> DeltaHeavy: stable as in "not changing". It's dependent on some random timing issue, as devices are discovered in parallel
[12:59] <DeltaHeavy> alankila: Thanks
[13:00] <Dr_willis> ive also had some systems for example boot from a usb flash. and it becomnes sda.. everythign else got shifted down.
[13:00] <Giant81> kapz, stripped SSD's
[13:00] <Dr_willis> whatever device was the boot device. became sda ;)
[13:01]  * Dr_willis dosent worry about 25 sec boot times.. when he has 25+ days uptime.
[13:01] <kapz> Giant81, I dont' understand, but it's a laptop and I replaced the HDD with transcend 128 gb ssd
[13:01] <Simao> hi all! I have i question, i think its simple but here it goes: i have my ubuntu 10.4 intalled but i want to install the new version, whats the best way?  can i just update it? or i have  to install the new one....
[13:01] <alankila> I have a btrfs volume that runs some equivalent of fsck at every boot and it takes like 5 minutes
[13:01] <OerHeks> kapz, i added noatime,discard to fstab, for trim & faster reading
[13:02] <zieglerk> apt-get update gives me 404 not found errors for a repo where "Packages" is not present, but "Packages.gz" would be there
[13:02] <DeltaHeavy> Simao: Updating can cause some issues. It's best to just install from disk.
[13:02] <zieglerk> Why does it not try the zipped alternative?
[13:02] <Giant81> Well there's your problem
[13:02] <Giant81> You have an MLC SSD, go buy an SLC, should speed things up
[13:02] <kapz> OerHeks, I did that plus mounted my /tmp and /var/tmp on RAM
[13:03] <alankila> I think modern MLCs can be pretty fast though. I imagine like 500 MB/s fast.
[13:03] <cypher-neo> Simao, The best way is to download an Ubuntu 12.04 .iso image, stick on a CD or USB drive, and boot from it.
[13:03] <cypher-neo> Simao, During the install process, you will get an option to upgrade the current system to 12.04
[13:03] <cypher-neo> Simao, You will not lose any files that way.
[13:03] <Giant81> oh yeah, I suspect a modern MLC to be pretty darn good and still smoke a HDD, but if he's out for the fastest thing he can get maybe an SLC is the way tot go
[13:03] <OerHeks> kapz sounds fine, so i have no other idea what to tweak
[13:04] <zieglerk> How do you convince apt-get update to try Packages.gz if Packages is not present?
[13:04] <HRH_H_Crab> alankila: didnt help
[13:04] <HRH_H_Crab> *** /dev/sde3 will be checked for errors at next reboot ***
[13:04] <HRH_H_Crab> :|
[13:04] <Simao> #cypher-neo thanks!
[13:04] <Simao> thanks delta too
[13:04] <kapz> OerHeks, how much time does your setup take to boot? is it a laptop
[13:04] <Domovoi> can i stop " system program problem detected " from popping up ?      Everything works fine , just sometimes this pops up when i am using xbmc , and i have to click cancel.
[13:04] <alankila> HRH_H_Crab: confused. I'm pretty sure that if you removed explicit /dev/sd* references from fstab, they will be mounted according to the UUIDs you used instead
[13:05] <HRH_H_Crab> youd think so wouldnt you?
[13:05] <alankila> what this has to do with disk chekcing is beyond me
[13:05] <HRH_H_Crab> but no.
[13:05] <alankila> did you use the right UUIDs then?
[13:05] <HRH_H_Crab> well the machine has booted!
[13:05] <HRH_H_Crab> ;P
[13:05] <HRH_H_Crab> all the filesystems are there.
[13:05] <alankila> sounds like success to me then
[13:06] <clark> !list
[13:06] <HRH_H_Crab> alankila: but that was always the case.
[13:06] <alankila> note that the mounts are made using the actual device node names instead of the UUID values in any case
[13:06] <HRH_H_Crab> teh problem is the stupid warning telling me that it wants to fsck sde3!
[13:06] <alankila> HRH_H_Crab: doubt it, if you previously argued that the device nodes were not stable and you used them directly in fstab.
[13:06] <HRH_H_Crab> that doiesnt exist!
[13:07] <Makdaam> hello, I've got sound system problems
[13:07] <HRH_H_Crab> the only ones in fstab that werent uuids
[13:07] <HRH_H_Crab> were / and md1
[13:07] <HRH_H_Crab> md1 isnt exactly likely to get switched around
[13:07] <OerHeks> kapz let me see, i installed bootchart, this is my latest boot @24-5-2012 >> http://picpaste.com/oerpc-precise-20120524-1-q2WY6Nhg.png
[13:07] <HRH_H_Crab> and / is /
[13:07] <Makdaam> is there anyone who can help me with alsa? or is there a specific channel?
[13:07] <HRH_H_Crab> my only other partitions (/boot and swap) were /already/ using uuids.
[13:08] <HRH_H_Crab> alankila: scroll up and check my pastebin
[13:08] <HRH_H_Crab> the only change ive made is swapping sda3 for the uuid
[13:08] <HRH_H_Crab> and i did md1 too just for consistancy.
[13:08] <Sidewinder> HRH_H_Crab, After you get the UUID vs Disk-Name issue straitened out you might look into (man tune2fs) tune2fs to reconfigure aspects of fsck and possibly eliminate the sde and/or md1 part.
[13:09] <brobeans> msg nickserv identify Omfgsux2bu
[13:09] <linvex> i have no idea……
[13:09] <HRH_H_Crab> Sidewinder: thanks
[13:09] <OerHeks> brobeans change your pass now !
[13:09] <HRH_H_Crab> gives me some manpages to read and stuff to google
[13:09] <Pici> brobeans: more like sucks to be you, time to change your password.
[13:09] <Makdaam> nvm
[13:09] <brobeans> lol woops.
[13:09] <Sidewinder> HRH_H_Crab, I'm not absolutely certain but it might be a good place to look.
[13:09] <HRH_H_Crab> and sounds potentially productive!
[13:09] <HRH_H_Crab> yeah
[13:09] <alankila> the message about sde3 may be generated from some kind of note linux has written down that a filesystem must be checked on some later boot. Not familiar with this message or who writes it.
[13:09] <HRH_H_Crab> i like your thinking.
[13:10] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[13:10] <alankila> clearly it's out of date if there is no sde3
[13:10] <HRH_H_Crab> alankila: i like that thinking too
[13:10] <HRH_H_Crab> and if i was a betting man id say that is the exact problem.
[13:10] <HRH_H_Crab> i might have to backward engineer .profile!
[13:10] <HRH_H_Crab> ;P
[13:10] <linvex> part
[13:10] <Domovoi> Can i stop " system program problem detected " from popping up in 12.04 ?
[13:11] <speak> Hi! When I have my terminal full screen by F11, Alt+Tabbing to certain applications (ThunderBird, DBViewer at least, even Chrome sometimes) doesn't bring them to the front. What could be wrong?
[13:11] <kapz> OerHeks, your's is like 5 secs faster than mine....anyways what did you do about the noop scheduler?
[13:11] <speak> If I'm repeating the question too often, let me know and I'll slow down.
[13:11] <OerHeks> kapz nothing, i guess
[13:12] <OerHeks> kapz, btw this is not a laptop
[13:12] <kumaryu>  /nick kumaryu
[13:13] <kapz> Does anyone know about disabling disk scheduler optimization for ubuntu 12.04?
[13:13] <khmerog> hi
[13:13] <brobeans> oerHeks: thanks btw.
[13:13] <brobeans> Pici: thanks ;)
[13:13] <kapz> OerHeks, that noop thing is only for HDD...doesn't matter laptop or desktop
[13:13] <khmerog> i have the newest kubuntu installed and my wifi usb adapter just stopped working but it still works under windows 7..any suggestions?
[13:14] <Domovoi> Sorry to repeat the question ....   Does anyone know if there is a way to stop   " system program problem detected " from popping up in 12.04 ?   everything works fine , just the error is annoying.
[13:16] <OerHeks> kapz noop scheduler, i found this info on a laptop AA1 page > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AA1/Using#Use_the_.22noop.22_I.2BAC8-O_scheduler
[13:17] <Sidewinder> Domovoi, If it's the same issue that I'm experiencing (yes, it is annoying) just wait until it gets fixed in an update, etc..
[13:17] <wawowe> khmerog: what kind of adapter is it?
[13:17] <Dr_willis> Domovoi,  teres some /var/log file that has the 'error logs' if you clean out that dir. it wont show that dialog.
[13:17] <Dr_willis> Domovoi,  i looked it up last week on the askubuntu.com site. ;)
[13:17] <alecbenzer> in 12.04, how do I get the login to work according to my .Xsession? I remember in an older version an Xession option appeared in the possible logins, but it doesn't seem to be coming up for me
[13:17] <Pici> Dr_willis, Domovoi: You mean /var/crash/ ?
[13:17] <Dr_willis> alecbenzer,  You could make one, or i Seem to recall some package having that custome session in it.
[13:18] <Dr_willis> Pici,  sounds about right. been some time ago.
[13:18] <wawowe> alecbenzer: try .xsession
[13:21] <khmerog> wawowe it is a G-link
[13:21] <kapz> OerHeks, yes but I want to kow if one should do anything about it in 12.04..I read somewhere that 12.04 automatically does that, but I want to make sure that it did
[13:21] <wawowe> alecbenzer: i don't have lightdm, but i'm pretty sure the sessions are .desktop files somewhere in /usr/share
[13:22] <khmerog> opps i mean it is a linksys wawowe
[13:22] <wawowe> khmerog: what model?
[13:22] <wawowe> khmerog: version
[13:22] <alecbenzer> .xsession didn't seem to work either
[13:22] <khmerog> but the light does even light up..i switched it to every usb i got...but my usb mouse and usb keyboard works
[13:22] <khmerog> hang on wawowe i wil find out
[13:23] <OerHeks> kapz you are the first one to mention this, i am not sure. but i keep on looking for pro's and cons.
[13:23] <khmerog> linksysy compact wireless-G usb adapter  WUSB54GC  wawowe
[13:23] <gimpy08> On 10.10 with LXDE how do I select which sound card to use?
[13:24] <wawowe> alecbenzer: /usr/share/xsessions
[13:25] <wawowe> gimpy08: what does aplay -l output?
[13:25] <mi3> hi
[13:26] <kapz> OerHeks, http://tombuntu.com/
[13:26] <wawowe> khmerog: did it work before?
[13:26] <wawowe> khmerog: you may need ndiswrapper
[13:26] <gimpy08> wawowe: http://pastie.org/3988744 - I want the USB one
[13:27] <xisorshadow> hi everybody
[13:27] <xisorshadow> i have a perhaps very odd question
[13:27] <terminalclient> hey all, I need some help with HDMI audio on my acer revo rl70, it keeps going off or not working at all
[13:27] <alecbenzer> wawowe: would I just create a new one with "Exec=startx" ?
[13:27] <xisorshadow> is it possible to make it so grub automatically boots the default choice with no delay or even showing itself UNLESS i hit a certain key?
[13:28] <wawowe> gimpy08: put this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1013050/ in ~/.asoundrc
[13:28] <gimpy08> wawowe: Ok, then what?
[13:28] <wawowe> alecbenzer: copy the gnome one or another one to custom.desktop and create a script for whatever you want to load
[13:29] <wawowe> alecbenzer: for instance: echo "exec xclock" > /usr/local/bin/myxsession; chmod +x /usr/local/bin/myxsession
[13:30] <wawowe> alecbenzer: for instance: and change "gnome-session" in the custom.desktop to myxsession
[13:30] <wawowe> gimpy08: try to play an mp3 or something
[13:30] <xisorshadow> is it possible to make it so grub automatically boots the default choice with no delay or even showing itself UNLESS i hit a certain key?
[13:31] <alecbenzer> wawowe: startx will by default look in my .Xession and do what it says though, right? (it's been a while since I've messed around with X)
[13:31] <gimpy08> wawowe: One has been playing, still no sound.  Does some daemon need restarted/HUPed?
[13:31] <khmerog> wawowe yes it worked perfectly couple of days ago..and i added some widgets on desktop then it stopped working
[13:31] <xisorshadow> guess nobody knows XD
[13:31] <wawowe> xisorshadow: yes, edit /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/header
[13:31] <khmerog> sorry i am also trying to goodgle search for solution also is why my replys are soo late
[13:31] <xisorshadow> wawowe, what do i change specifically?
[13:32] <alecbenzer> xisorshadow: wait, when would you hit the 'i' button?
[13:32] <terminalclient>  I need some help with HDMI audio on my acer revo rl70, it keeps going off or not working at all
[13:32] <gimpy08> xisorshadow: If there's no delay how would you have time to press a key?
[13:32] <wawowe> alecbenzer: startx will look in ~/.xinitrc if you have a login manager you don't need startx
[13:32] <xisorshadow> i dont want grub to be visible at all unless i hit a key combination
[13:32] <xisorshadow> like in windows you can mash F8 and itll load the hidden menu
[13:33] <alecbenzer> xisorshadow: right but when would you hit this combination? when the BIOS has control?
[13:33] <gimpy08> xisorshadow: Maybe this?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Hidden
[13:33] <xisorshadow> sure? windows recognizes it frm them
[13:33] <xisorshadow> gimpy08, looking
[13:33] <invalidformat> ok I need to change grubs vga mode, how do I do it?
[13:33] <wawowe> gimpy08: echo "autospawn = no" >> ~/.pulse/client.conf; killall pulseaudio
[13:34] <wawowe> xisorshadow: etc /etc/default/grub and change GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
[13:34] <gimpy08> wawowe: That did it, thanks!  I hate how audio on Linux is so terrible.
[13:35] <wawowe> gimpy08: linux audio can be great :)
[13:35] <xisorshadow> wawowe, if i change it to 0 grub wont ever appear right? and id have to boot into a liveCD to fix it if something went wrong?
[13:35] <wawowe> gimpy08: just have to configure things right
[13:35] <terminalclient> wawowe: can you help with my audio issue?
[13:35] <gimpy08> wawowe: I know but configuring OpenLDAP is almost easier.  It shouldn't be that way.
[13:36] <wawowe> gimpy08: agreed
[13:36] <xisorshadow> wawowe, now i have another strange question! can i change the ubuntu screen during boot to a custom graphic?
[13:36] <Zelest> xisorshadow, only if it's of big boobs!
[13:37] <wawowe> xisorshadow: look for plymouth themes
[13:37] <wawowe> terminalclient: your audio just turns off by itself?
[13:37] <xisorshadow> wawowe, is that a package i install?
[13:37] <AlanBell> Zelest: that was neither helpful or appropriate, please try to actually help
[13:38] <ccolorado> hi i am having troubles with a given ubuntu server. It has problems displaying some charaters over ssh. characters like accented vocals and such. All i get are "?" boxes. Any idea where is the character map set and how to change it  ?
[13:38] <wawowe> khmerog: did you update since then?
[13:38] <Zelest> AlanBell, sorry, I will never try to be funny anymore.
[13:38] <terminalclient> wawowe: yeah, it can work for a little while, then just goes off
[13:38] <wawowe> terminalclient: does it mute? check alsamixer when it stops working
[13:39] <xisorshadow> wawowe, i want it to be a CUSTOM graphic, not a premade theme
[13:39] <xisorshadow> wawowe, how would i do this?
[13:39] <terminalclient> wawowe: alsamixer only showing s/pdif
[13:40] <terminalclient> wawowe: not showing HDMI at all
[13:40] <wawowe> terminalclient: and if you hit f6?
[13:40] <wawowe> xisorshadow: /lib/plymouth/themes/
[13:40] <xisorshadow> terminalclient, i had that same problem, is it nvidia ION graphics?
[13:40] <Dr_willis> ccolorado,  check your TERM setting, and the settings for whatver terminal app you are using for SSH
[13:40] <xisorshadow> terminalclient, and your hdmi isnt working right for sound?
[13:41] <terminalclient> xisorshadow:AMD HD
[13:41] <Dr_willis> ccolorado,  also check the fonts used by the terminal app.,
[13:41] <compdoc> ccolorado, Ive never seen problems with characters, although I have probably never worked with accented vocals tha you mention. Maybe you need to try another ssh client
[13:41] <xisorshadow> terminalclient, run alsamixer and take a screenshot of the default page for us, or make sure even the spdif entries are unmuted
[13:41] <terminalclient> wawowe: F6 hows (default) and HD-Audio Generic, but both only display controls s/pdif
[13:41] <khmerog> wawowe i will do a reinstall of kubuntu..
[13:42] <xisorshadow> terminalclient, my HDMI on my acer aspire revo is detected as spdif in alsamixer, and was muted by default
[13:42] <wawowe> khmerog: you don't necessarily need to do that
[13:42] <ccolorado> compdoc: another ssh client ? what do you mean ?
[13:42] <terminalclient> xisorshadow: mine shows s/pdif volume level 00 with no control, can't set volume any higher
[13:42] <compdoc> ccolorado, the program you use to log in
[13:43] <xisorshadow> terminalclient, is the 00 lit up or not lit up?
[13:43] <terminalclient> xsiorshadow: lit green
[13:43] <khmerog> wawowe i have no access to internet..so i cannot do update :(
[13:43] <xisorshadow> terminalclient, no idea then
[13:43] <xisorshadow> terminalclient, is your AMD graphics driver installed?
[13:44] <xisorshadow> terminalclient, hdmi audio is dependant on that driver
[13:44] <terminalclient> xisorshadow: yes, hold on, will get version number
[13:44] <zykotick9> ccolorado: what terminal are you using?
[13:44] <alexfu> I'm running 12.04 and I've got a program that doesnt show up on the side bar when launched. Any ideas as to how I can get it to show?
[13:44] <ccolorado> compdoc: thanks I think its a problem with the locale, but i am not all that familiar with ubuntu, I usually use other linux distributions
[13:44] <khmerog> i didi a search to see difference between Mint KDE and Kubuntu (ubuntu with kde)  someone said..Same (bleep) different Apps...what does he mean by apps? apps such as Thunderbird, Firefox, etc?
[13:44] <wawowe> terminalclient: hdmi audio volume can't be controled from alsa, ony muted and unmuted
[13:44] <wawowe> terminalclient: turn up the volume on whatever it's plugged into
[13:44] <terminalclient> wawowe: well it's unmuted
[13:44] <ccolorado> zykotick9: ssh lands me to an xterm session, but what i really use is "screen" for multiplexing
[13:44] <xisorshadow> wawowe, can you find for him the special flag for radeon hdmi audio they added to ubuntu to force it to work?
[13:45] <terminalclient> wawowe: volume has been turned up, nothing
[13:45] <xisorshadow> wawowe, i think hes having that problem that that fixes
[13:45] <wawowe> khmerog: yes, different apps and logo
[13:45] <terminalclient> xisorshadow: fglrx 2.8.960-oubuntu1
[13:45] <zykotick9> ccolorado: if possible i'd try using rxvt-unicode instead of xterm as a test.
[13:46] <wawowe> terminalclient: you have radeon hdmi?
[13:46] <khmerog> can u give me an example of an app that mint would use that ubuntu cannot? becuase i thought mint is ubuntu with different looks
[13:46] <terminalclient> wawowe: yes, AMD Radeon HD 6320
[13:46] <wawowe> terminalclient: is fglrx installed?
[13:47] <Dr_willis> khmerog,  linux is linux. most all distros can have the same apps.
[13:47] <Dr_willis> khmerog,  they do  a little more then just change the looks i recall.
[13:47] <terminalclient> wawowe: yes, fglrx 2.8.960-0ubuntu1
[13:47] <wawowe> khmerog: they can all use the same apps, the difference is what they come with by default. and the configuration
[13:47] <xisorshadow> wawowe, he must have an amd e-450 fusion apu if he has that gpu in a revo nettop XD
[13:47] <fidel_> khmerog: but to add some more confusion: there is a debian mint aswell ;)
[13:47] <angs> how can I check md5sum of file that I downloaded?
[13:47] <xisorshadow> wawowe, the hdmi audio fix for radeon might help him XD
[13:48] <terminalclient> xisorshadow: correct
[13:48] <xisorshadow> wawowe, he already confirmed he had the video driver installed
[13:48] <wawowe> xisorshadow: i haven't heard of that fix
[13:48] <xisorshadow> wawowe, sec ill find it for him and you
[13:48] <terminalclient> xisorshadow: what fix?
[13:48] <zykotick9> angs: do you have the correct md5sum?  to get it just "md5sum filename"
[13:48] <terminalclient> xisorshadow: sweet, cheers
[13:48] <wawowe> xisorshadow: i have radeon 4200 and hdmi audio works well
[13:49] <khmerog> i see
[13:49] <Eagleman> How do i enable telnet to listen to remote connections? i need it for dovecot to test somethings
[13:49] <Eagleman> Its automaticly refusing the connection now
[13:49] <xisorshadow> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/864735
[13:49] <wawowe> Eagleman: telnetd
[13:49] <xisorshadow> he can try the grub fix
[13:49] <xisorshadow> listed there as workaround 1
[13:50] <xisorshadow> wawowe, terminalclient https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/864735
[13:50] <xisorshadow> sorry about that XD
[13:50] <Eagleman> thanks wawowe
[13:50] <xisorshadow> lol the bot picked up on my link!
[13:51] <xisorshadow> wawowe, terminalclient did you guys see my link the 2nd time?
[13:51] <terminalclient> wawowe: xisorshadow: will try workaround 1 and report back
[13:51] <wawowe> xisorshadow: that just says it's disabled by default
[13:51] <wawowe> xisorshadow: it can be enabled in alsamixer by hitting > on spdif
[13:51] <xisorshadow> wawowe, yes, with no way to enable it, other than that line, or the catalyst drivers direct from amd
[13:51] <invalidformat> ok, so I need to run memtest but when I try to get in to grub to choose memtest my monitor says invalid format
[13:52] <xisorshadow> wawowe, oh, ok
[13:52] <wawowe> terminalclient: and alsactl store ^^^
[13:52] <ccolorado> zykotick9: ill give it a try thanks
[13:52] <xisorshadow> my bad :( trying to help
[13:52] <xisorshadow> i had sound problems yesterday
[13:53] <invalidformat> so if anyone could tell me what I need to change...
[13:53] <terminalclient> wawowe: alsactl?
[13:53] <terminalclient> wawowe: rebooting now
[13:53] <wawowe> terminalclient: it can be enabled in alsamixer by hitting > on spdif
[13:53] <wawowe> terminalclient: then: alsactl store
[13:53] <brodro> my computer sounds like a city bus
[13:54] <wawowe> brodro: turn it off :P
[13:54] <brodro> wawowe: best advice of the day XD
[13:54] <dlentz> invalidformat, i don't know about the error, but check your bios for memtest feature
[13:54] <roasted> hello!
[13:55] <invalidformat> already did no dice
[13:55] <alien260> Hi does anyone know if there is a way to use ssconvert (part of gnumeric) http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/ssconvert.1.html#contenttoc7 to convert excel sheets with multi sheets in them to txt?
[13:55] <xisorshadow> wawowe, is there a specific resolution limit to the png i use for a plymouth theme?
[13:56] <wawowe> xisorshadow: most likely
[13:56] <LinuxMonkey> ummm i got an issue it seams that all my application bars disapeared meaning i got no close/minimize/maximise
[13:56] <brodro> so, I'm kinda beginner status. But I'm currently on a shell server
[13:56] <xisorshadow> wawowe, would 640 x 480 be safe then? :P
[13:56] <wawowe> xisorshadow: use whatever resolution the other themes are using for their images
[13:56] <brodro> and I'm trying to figure out, how to join/leave rooms from the terminal
[13:56] <xisorshadow> wawowe, good idea!
[13:56] <myhero> when doing - dmesg | tail - it only gives last inserted drive info but how to see all drives connected at one go ?
[13:57] <wawowe> brodro: /join #channel
[13:57] <wawowe> brodro: /part #channel
[13:57] <compdoc> myhero, use grep
[13:57] <myhero> comdoc: grep ?
[13:58] <wawowe> myhero: something like dmesg | grep sda
[13:58] <brodro> wawowe: thanks !
[13:58] <compdoc> myhero, whats a common word thats part of what you are searching for?
[13:58] <zykotick9> brodro: what client are you using? irssi?
[13:59] <compdoc> myhero, would 'drive' work?
[13:59] <brodro> one last question for the 9th hour, how do I leave a private irc chat?
[13:59] <myhero> compdoc: i connected 2 pendrives and 1 microsd with usb adapter so when doing dmesg|tail it only gave the info of last inserted drive...!!!
[14:00] <wawowe> brodro: if you mean close a private message window.. /window close
[14:00] <brodro> zykotick9: yep, i'm using irssi
[14:00] <Eagleman> How to quit from ubuntu telnet?
[14:00] <zykotick9> brodro: /wc to close a chat
[14:00] <Eagleman> all i can wait for is the server to drop the connection
[14:00] <wawowe> Eagleman: most likely ctrl+d or c
[14:00] <imbezol> Eagleman: type <enter>~.
[14:00] <compdoc> myhero, grep searches for words. try:  dmesg | grep drive
[14:01] <compdoc> or grep usb
[14:01] <compdoc> etc
[14:01] <Pici> Eagleman: press ctrl+] and then type exit or press ctrl+d
[14:01] <Eagleman> thanks imbezol
[14:01] <airstrike> hi
[14:01] <imbezol> Eagleman: np
[14:01] <airstrike> i have an annoying question
[14:01] <myhero> ok
[14:02] <airstrike> please beware, i know jackcrack about terminals and input standards or what have you
[14:02] <airstrike> i'm on windows xp, using putty, connecting to ubuntu through screen.
[14:02] <terminalclient> wawowe: xisorshadow: well audio is working in the system, still not working for XBMC
[14:02] <ironhalik> anyone got some flash issues lately? Flash video crashes for me
[14:02] <airstrike> i want my ctrl+arrow keys to work!
[14:02] <terminalclient> wawowe: xisorshadow: so the fix helped something, gotta change the setting in XBMC somewhere now
[14:02] <imbezol> airstrike: what are you wanting that to do?
[14:02] <DJones> airstrike: What do you expect them to do?
[14:03] <compdoc> airstrike, what does  ctrl+arrow do?
[14:03] <terminalclient> wawowe: xisorshadow: thanks for the fix though guys
[14:03] <xisorshadow> terminalclient, you have sound now?
[14:03] <edinny> I am having a problem compiling in Precise.  It seems centered around libsigc-2.0.so.  Any ideas?
[14:03] <airstrike> i expect different things in different context. here in irssi, it does moves one char to the left or one char to the right. i would love to move word by word, which is my idea of a standard behavior for that key mapping.
[14:03] <airstrike> in vim, i can't seem to map <C-left> or <C-right> to anything at all
[14:04] <airstrike> so i'm assuming i'm not sending the proper info to the ubuntu terminal
[14:04] <DJones> airstrike: This may help http://superuser.com/questions/103069/putty-ssh-ctrlcursor-keys-dont-work-skip-to-previous-next-word
[14:04] <terminalclient> xisorshadow: yes, audio is fine now, thanks for the fix
[14:04] <DJones> Although itss 2 years out of date, so may have changed since then
[14:05] <compdoc> myhero, if you type just dmesg, you can see the whole log
[14:05] <xisorshadow> holy crap i actually HELPED someone? omg
[14:05] <xisorshadow> how is that possible? ive only used linux for 2 days XD
[14:05] <terminalclient> you did good dude
[14:05] <compdoc> xisorshadow, you should run for president
[14:06] <compdoc> youre on a roll
[14:06] <airstrike> DJones: it looks about right, except for the fact that ctrl+v ctrl-left yields the same as ctrl+v left
[14:07] <kardan> greetings, where can I get help to get my HSPA usb stick running? (model k3765-Z). already searched for it but i am confused of (outdated?) howtos. Thanks!
[14:07] <DJones> airstrike: Its not somthing I've ever used, other than waiting to see if anybody else has an answer, I can't suggest anything else
[14:10] <melvincv> kardan, what make is it?
[14:11] <kardan> melvincv, thanks for your answer. you mean my make version? its 3.81. btw atm i am trying https://forge.betavine.net/frs/download.php/626/vodafone-mobile-connect_2.25.01-1_all.deb
[14:11] <melvincv> kardan, like ZTE, Huawei etc.
[14:12] <kardan> melvincv, its ZTE. all my research is on http://piratepad.net/7tVr2crqur
[14:13] <Eclife> Hello
[14:13] <zhanshime-1> hi
[14:14] <Eclife> is this where I can get some help with Ubuntu?
[14:14] <zhanshime-1> yeah
[14:14] <Eclife> I am having a problem with 12.04 LTS
[14:15] <dadis> Hi, I'm trying to setup MPD but it's saying my music directory isn't a folder but it actually is!?
[14:15] <dadis> Does anyone have any ideas?
[14:15] <angs> how to umount a device? umount /dev/device_name?
[14:16] <Eclife> My computer freezes on start up
[14:16] <dadis> music directory is not a directory: "/media/Iomega/Torrents/Music" john@john-laptop:~$ ls /media/Iomega/Torrents/
[14:16] <dadis> Books  Movies  Music  rtorrent  TV  What_Uploads
[14:16] <tawtwa> hello, i have a disk array and i want to use a linux filesystem on it... when i run ext4 on my diskarray i get disk saturation due to journaling:  1223 be/3 root        0.00 B/s  117.90 K/s  0.00 % 99.99 % [jbd2/dm-0-8], i wish to prevent this from happening.. what filesystem should i use?
[14:16] <dadis> angs, yes
[14:16] <angs> thanks dadis
[14:17] <compdoc> tawtwa, wow, that raid must be pretty buzy
[14:17] <bouma> i just cant figure out howto use zipsplit. i try zipsplit -n 1000000 file.zip to get 10m pieces but nothing will work
[14:17] <bouma> ive been trying parameters for a while, including -n 10m
[14:18] <invalidformat> so what I was looking for was in /etc/defaults/grub
[14:18] <tawtwa> compdoc: haha yes its a very sad raid
[14:18] <invalidformat> but then the computer really crashed, not sure if its the HD or RAM
[14:18] <invalidformat> but DLing UBCD
[14:18] <tawtwa> compdoc: and lucky enough its only affecting one lun
[14:19] <xisorshadow> where would i find the files for an installed program? im trying to edit an xml file for xbmc but no clue where to look for the file
[14:20] <blackshirt> xisorshadow: what program you want to list ?
[14:20] <Pici> xisorshadow: You probably want to look in ~/.xbmc/ or ~/.xbmc/userdata/ for user-editable xml files.
[14:20] <dadis> find -t d / xbmc
[14:20] <xisorshadow> Pici, how do i do that?
[14:20] <Eclife> Is there anyone out there that would be able to help with a start up problem in 12.04?
[14:20] <melvincv> kardan, I have written a word document on connecting to ZTE modems, if you're brave to experiment, best of luck :) http://sdrv.ms/K9vNcR
[14:21] <compdoc> tawtwa, I use ext4 on several raids, but they dont have lots of users using them. You can disable journaling, but that could blow up in your face someday.
[14:21] <Pici> xisorshadow: What are you trying to edit the file with?
[14:21] <kapz> I accidentaly deleted the lost+found folder...how can I recreate it, I mean what should be the permissions
[14:21] <tawtwa> compdoc: i did and it did...
[14:21] <blackshirt> Eclife: can you describe more detail ?
[14:21] <tawtwa> compdoc: disabling journaling broke my filesystem o_O
[14:21] <xisorshadow> no idea
[14:21] <compdoc> sorry to hear that
[14:21] <tawtwa> so i have to redo the machine so nwo i wanna do it properly
[14:21] <xisorshadow> what edits xml in linux?
[14:21] <tawtwa> compdoc: its ok, i knew it would happen hehe
[14:22] <Pici> xisorshadow: press ctrl-h in the file-manager to see hidden files then naviate to .xmbc in your home directory.
[14:22] <Eclife> About every 4 times or so my computer will boot all the way into login or lightdm and then the touchpad and keyboard don't work. I have tried automatic login and the same thing will happen once the computer loads Ubuntu fully
[14:22] <kapz> xisorshadow, almost all file editors
[14:22] <compdoc> tawtwa, well there are only a few filesystems you can try:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemsExplained
[14:23] <blackshirt> kapz: mklost+found
[14:24] <CokeAddict> !codecs
[14:26] <roasted> Question - Anybody have any experience with Ubuntu and Ricoh copiers with hold print? I've read references that you can set up a config file to handle it but I'm a little unsure of which... the guide I found was a little shotty.
[14:27] <kardan> nice, i will try that. thanks melvincv
[14:28] <kapz> thanks blackshirt
[14:29] <melvincv> kardan, you're welcome. It worked for me, hope it helps you too :)
[14:29] <dumi> Hello :-D
[14:29] <poweruzzen> hello
[14:30] <blackshirt> hello dumi poweruzzen
[14:30] <poweruzzen> hi blackshirt
[14:30] <Snowie> ok, so ive been struggling with black screen on boot for about 2hrs now. finally out of frustration i select system summary from safe boot and hold down the enter key, and everything works. WTFH. scuse me and sorry, but anyone explain what magic just happened?
[14:30] <yggdrasil> whats up
[14:33] <Snowie_NOOBspert> Im just gunna pretend that the last change i made to install/update fglrx just fixed it... even though i tested it 4 times, and it didnt work. anyway. how is eveyone :)
[14:35] <kwoot> If I add a desktop file and have it show up in launcher, all done by script, then why does the icon not show?
[14:35] <kwoot> is there an icon cache to rebuild or something?
[14:36] <craigbass1976> It seems someone at work has managed to log into Unity, though XFCE is the default.  All I see when I do a who though is my ssh login.  If you get a password wrong, are you thrown in automatically as guest, and does guest not show up in who results?
[14:36] <b44> you can't chown you own files to other users?
[14:36] <b44> operation not permitted ... ?
[14:36] <b44> can't chown your own files ...
[14:37] <Snowie_NOOBspert> b44, what exact command are you running?
[14:38] <dumi> how are you?
[14:38] <Snowie_NOOBspert> dumi, good thanks. was that for me?
[14:39] <b44> Snowie_NOOBspert: chown -R otherUser, while I am the current owner
[14:39] <b44> chown -R otherUser *;
[14:40] <mi3> hi, any suggestions on compiling and installing audacious from source code ? I am new to compiling :D
[14:41] <mi3> I have tried ./configure && make && make install
[14:41] <Snowie_NOOBspert> b44, what are you trying to achieve? just to give read priviliges
[14:41] <scotty^> If I understand things correctly, Ubuntu server does not use X - is that correct?
[14:41] <mi3> but it gives me this error http://paste.debian.net/171746/
[14:41] <airstrike> DJones: i'm pretty sure there's some switch for emulating this or that terminal in putty
[14:41] <airstrike> i'm just not sure which terminal i'm supposed to have it emulate
[14:41] <airstrike> i always see things like tty, xterm, etc
[14:41] <airstrike> and i never know which is the preferred mode
[14:42] <blackshirt> scotty^ yes
[14:42] <Snowie_NOOBspert> b44, what is the exact error that you get?
[14:42] <scotty^> mi3 - use checkinstall instead of make install - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[14:42] <cypher-neo> airstrike, What program are you trying to emulate a terminal in?
[14:43] <scotty^> Ok, so does Ubuntu server implement DPMS?  If not, what is turning off the monitor after a while?
[14:44] <airstrike> cypher-neo: putty
[14:44] <airstrike> cypher-neo: using screen
[14:44] <wawowe> mi3: you need to install the glib-dev package
[14:44] <b44> Snowie_NOOBspert: chown: changing ownership of `folder1/': Operation not permitted,   While currently: drwxr-xr-x 4 myUser folder1
[14:44] <mi3> E: Unable to locate package glib-dev wawowe
[14:44] <b44> wanna give ownership of folder to other user..
[14:44] <wawowe> mi3: apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[14:44] <cypher-neo> airstrike, Putty is another Terminal alternative.
[14:45] <compdoc> airstrike, you need a windows ssh client?
[14:45] <cypher-neo> airstrike, Any Terminal you install on Ubuntu uses the default BASH settings file unless set to use something else.
[14:45] <amt0101> Hello! How can I access gnome proxy to change my proxy settings?
[14:46] <airstrike> my problem is that ctrl-arrows are only being registered as arrows (without the ctrl), i believe
[14:46] <airstrike> putty is my preferred ssh client for windows atm
[14:46] <red> Since I upgraded to 12.04 my mouse hovering over any window "activates" this window, so if I click on my browser and start to type, but knock my mouse over to my IRC window the text will start appearing in the app that is currently mouseovered? Is there any way to revert this functionality?
[14:46] <Snowie_NOOBspert> b44, you may not have permissions to change ownership. I believe (SEE NOOOB!spert) that changing permissions is an executable by defenition. Can you sudo it?
[14:46] <shaneo> hi guys whats a good standalone calender app i would use evolution but dont want the additional mail client just need something that will sync with my google calender
[14:46] <wawowe> b44: you have to be root to give permissions to other users
[14:46] <red> I've nearly typed login info in IRC multiple times now and it's getting annoying :)
[14:47] <abimael> Need help?
[14:47] <Snowie_NOOBspert> b44, sorry, writeable
[14:47] <Snowie_NOOBspert> b44, as in you are modifying the file
[14:47] <abimael> sorry, i mean i need assistance
[14:47] <shaneo> red, I did that last week and i have had over 100 failed login attempts since i changed it
[14:47] <red> ;)
[14:47] <scotty^> Ok, so does Ubuntu server implement DPMS?  If not, what is turning off the monitor after a while?
[14:48] <abimael> im running Toshiba laptop and battery wont show up, only sometimes randomly pops or only when i plug it in
[14:48] <b44> Snowie_NOOBspert: yes I think so too.... I can't change permissions although I am the owner of a file.
[14:48] <b44> this is configurable?
[14:48] <scotty^> blackshirt - Ok, so does Ubuntu server implement DPMS?  If not, what is turning off the monitor after a while?
[14:48] <wawowe> b44: you can change your permissions.. you just can't change other users permissions
[14:49] <b44> wawowe: that's not right... I can change group-permissions which are the permissions of other
[14:49] <wawowe> b44: you can't say what they own or don't own
[14:49] <Snowie_NOOBspert> b44, if it were me, i would read up on users groups permissions
[14:49] <b44> so I can't change ownership of a file without root`
[14:49] <b44> ?
[14:49] <adom> hi all. looking for an app that allows file transfers for remote desktop sessions. I can connect to a remote machine fine via remote desktop, how do i transfer files to that machine while connected? can it be done without enabling ssh/telnet on the remote machine (just using rdp/remote desktop)?
[14:50] <wawowe> b44: a group is not a user
[14:50] <Snowie_NOOBspert> b44, unless all users in the group have permissions. Your playing with fire i think. But i'll google it for ya
[14:50] <b44> wawowe: okay, ty
[14:51] <roasted> Question - Anybody have any experience with Ubuntu and Ricoh copiers with hold print? I've read references that you can set up a config file to handle it but I'm a little unsure of which... the guide I found was a little shotty.
[14:52] <Snowie_NOOBspert> b44, maybe this gentlemen will help. About to watch this myself ;)
[14:53] <fida> anybody here?
[14:53] <blackshirt> scotty^: exactly i don't know..but i think it was related to acpi/apm feature on linux kernel
[14:53] <angs> what is the command to reboot ubuntu? "reboot"?
[14:53] <Snowie_NOOBspert> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRw0SKaXSfI
[14:54] <Snowie_NOOBspert> b44, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRw0SKaXSfI
[14:54] <wawowe> b44: if you want to share a directory with another user add a group and put both of you in it, then chown -R b44:newgroup folder
[14:54] <fida> Can anybody tell how to setup bluetooth in Dell Vostro 1310 with 12.04?
[14:54] <quixotedon> angs: you can just click shutdown and after that a dialog window with restart/cancel/shut down buttons appear
[14:54] <wawowe> b44: and chmod 770 folder
[14:55] <Simao_> hi all! can someone tell me how i can install ubuntu from a pen drive?
[14:55] <jrib> wawowe, b44: you could optionally omit the "b44" in that chown command to save some keystrokes
[14:55] <jrib> !install | Simao_
[14:55] <blackshirt> angs: yes
[14:56] <Snowie_NOOBspert> fida, probably not, but what trouble are you having
[14:56] <wawowe> b44, jrib like this : chown -R .newgroup folder
[14:56] <quixotedon> !live usb | Simao_
[14:56] <jrib> wawowe: well I'd stick with : instead of ., but yeah
[14:56] <quixotedon> !liveusb | Simao_
[14:57] <Simao_> thanks ubottu i ll see it. quixotedon i didnt understand i m common user....
[14:58] <Snowie_NOOBspert> Simao_, ubotto is a robot, just so youknow
[14:58] <fida> bluetooth light never enables though in ubuntu it shows bluetooth started
[14:58] <Simao_> damn, so im a noobie...
[14:58] <fida> also can't find any devices...
[14:59] <fida> do i need extra drivers to make bluetooth work?
[15:00] <savr> hi
[15:00] <quixotedon> Simao_: you just need to click on the link from ubottu (i sent the message through it)
[15:00] <savr> gimp isn't showing in the side bar
[15:00] <quixotedon> :)
[15:00] <savr> or alt tab
[15:00] <savr> if I don
[15:00] <savr> if I don't place it own its own workspace I loose the app
[15:01] <quixotedon> savr: i have the same experience as well, but whenever you want to open a file with gimp, then it appears
[15:01] <Simao_> hehe! its appears a little dificult to me... i have already downloaded the new ubuntu and its on my usb drive...
[15:01] <hidensoft> hi guys , i got this error , : No such file or directory , and this is my script http://codepad.org/YEzDFVEm
[15:02] <Snowie_NOOBspert> fida, probably yes. you may need drivers. so where do you see "no devices detected"?
[15:02] <ikonia> hidensoft: there is your answer....there is no such file or directory where it is expected
[15:02] <ikonia> hidensoft: fyi /usr/bin/env is not a shell
[15:02] <hidensoft> ikonia, :) , so what i have to do ? it should work
[15:02] <savr> quixotedon, I can't get the same work around
[15:03] <ikonia> hidensoft: the guys in #python will help you write python scripts/give you links to lessons
[15:03] <wawowe> hidensoft: change env to python
[15:03] <ikonia> hidensoft: there is no way that script should currently work
[15:03] <jrib> ikonia: why?
[15:04] <ikonia> jrib: /usr/bin/env
[15:04] <hidensoft> ikonia, i also try /usr/bin/python i a got this  bash: ./var.py: /usr/bin/python^M: bad interpreter: No such file or
[15:04] <jrib> hidensoft: how are you calling the script?
[15:04] <jrib> ikonia: that's correct and recommended
[15:04] <ikonia> jrib: how's that going to work ?
[15:04] <hidensoft> jragon, ./var.py
[15:04] <ikonia> env isn't a shell
[15:04] <Pici> hidensoft: it sounds like you don't have python installed.
[15:04] <hidensoft> ok , its about my editor :|
[15:04] <Eclife> Hello everyone... looking for some help?
[15:04] <hidensoft> damn
[15:04] <ikonia> hidensoft: the files you are pointing at are not in the places you are telling them to be
[15:04] <hidensoft> thanks guys
[15:04] <Pici> ikonia: its the proper way to write the shebang for python programs
[15:05] <ikonia> Pici: well, I never, how can that work though ?
[15:05] <jrib> ikonia: env will run the first python it finds in PATH (this means you don't force users to use /usr/bin/python if they instead prefer to use /usr/local/bin/python (for example))
[15:05] <quixotedon> hidensoft: watch the language please :)
[15:05] <fida> in the bluetooth add device window. it searches for like one minute, and says no device found. also the hardware bluetooth indicator light remains off!
[15:05] <ikonia> jrib: I see what you mean,
[15:06] <jrib> hidensoft: you're issue is with line-endings, do you understand?
[15:06] <angs> how can I see what encryption  is used in my wifi connection?
[15:06] <jrib> your*
[15:07] <fasta> angs: not a very effective one ;)
[15:07] <angs> I want to see if my wlan0 interface use wpa or other encryption?
[15:08] <Eclife> Anyone out there can help with some freezing problems?
[15:08] <fasta> angs: AFAIK, there isn't a single consumer device sold more than 6 months ago which was secure out of the box.
[15:09] <pozzz> hi! can you help with xampp for linux? I cannot create a database with phpmyadmin. Any advice?
[15:09] <jrib> pozzz: don't use xampp
[15:09] <ikonia> pozzz: I'd advise you to use lamp
[15:09] <jrib> !lamp|  pozzz
[15:10] <angs> fasta: I could not understand how to see if wlan0 interface use wap or other encryption?
[15:10] <craigbass1976> pozzz, have you got shell access to the box?
[15:10] <Eclife> Looking for some help with a freezing problem???
[15:10] <hidensoft> jrib, yes dude
[15:10] <jrib> Eclife: you're going to have to be more specific...
[15:11] <i7c> anyone else noticed that shortcuts on ubuntu 12.04 are disastrous?
[15:11] <fasta> i7c: what do you mean by that? As in usability?
[15:12] <pozzz> craigbass1976 you lost me here
[15:12] <fasta> i7c: yes, they are, but you can 'fix' the problem if you read the freedesktop.org specifications.
[15:12] <i7c> fasta: well half of them i can't even change (like the maximization shortcuts etc.) and my custom ones only work right after i set them. if my computer reboots they seem to be lost.
[15:12] <pozzz> craigbass1976: konsole?
[15:12] <fasta> i7c: maxim. shortcuts?
[15:13] <pozzz> but I have xampp installed already. it just should work
[15:13] <craigbass1976> If you can ssh into the box that you're trying to get a database running on, you can just create a db frmo the command line.  Yes, I think Konsole is the KDE terminal
[15:13] <Eclife> touchpad and keyboard freezes on start up 2 out of 4 times
[15:13] <i7c> fasta: yep. it's on super + up. if i set alt+f10 it does not work
[15:13] <i7c> fasta: but opens some strange menu or something
[15:13] <Pici> pozzz: we do not support xampp here. Only lamp installs using the packages in our repositories.
[15:13] <vfw> i7c: define "shortcut"
[15:13] <fasta> i7c: I don't know the specifics of keybindings in unity.
[15:14] <pozzz> pici: ok
[15:14] <i7c> vfw: such a key combination that achieves something i would normally do with several clicks of my mouse.
[15:14] <fasta> i7c: if Unity doesn't meet your needs, try something else (that's what I did)
[15:14] <pozzz> ok, thanks everyone.
[15:14] <i7c> fasta: what are you using?
[15:14] <fasta> In fact, I tried all systems (Gnome3, Unity and KDE).
[15:14] <vfw> fasta: i7c I use xfce
[15:15] <fasta> I have also used others besides those.
[15:15] <fasta> I think xfce is a good Gnome2 replacement.
[15:15] <i7c> vfw: yeh i like xfce. pretty awesome to work.
[15:15] <fasta> I use KDE.
[15:15] <fasta> Gnome3 is an inside joke, I think.
[15:15] <fasta> Unity is quite awesome for most users, I think.
[15:16] <bitpimp> how do I launch the compiz settings manager from the commandline?
[15:16] <fasta> Unity has had a lot of polish, but is not perfect yet.
[15:16] <fasta> They certainly went from 'are they serious?' to 'well, it's not _that_ bad'.
[15:16] <i7c> fasta: i dont like it too much. looks great but usability suffers. are there such key combinations on xfce so that i can resize windows without clicking the border exactly?
[15:16] <bitpimp> tried to use cube, which hosed a number of things, including the ribbon.
[15:16] <i7c> like it is alt+middle mouse on unity, you know what i mean?
[15:17] <fasta> i7c: for keybindings there are other tools.
[15:17] <fasta> i7c: wmctrl
[15:17] <fasta> i7c: go and look it up, it is awesome.
[15:17] <tbrown2012fb> I need some help. I was trying to do some updates and I got the packets for it and I run Sudo apt-get upgrade and it said the following packages have been kept back. What do I do:)
[15:17] <fasta> i7c: you can completely program basically everything on Linux.
[15:17] <i7c> fasta: sounds good. thanks for the hint. works with any window manager?
[15:17] <fasta> i7c: for some value of any.
[15:18] <fasta> i7c: it works even with some I had never heard of before.
[15:18] <i7c> :D
[15:18] <denstark> Hello! I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit and I can't seem to install wine -- here's the output from attempting to do so: https://gist.github.com/bbe80bc382b8bdbbcd68
[15:18] <fasta> I think this year is the year of the Linux desktop for me ;)
[15:18] <_socalspy_> c
[15:19] <fasta> I had been using it much longer, but I don't think I have anything else to wish for except speech control.
[15:19] <fasta> Like "open Emacs".
[15:19] <fasta> Or "next song".
[15:19] <fasta> Ubuntu did quite well in releasing a ton of software.
[15:20] <fasta> There are about 59,000 packages now.
[15:20] <fasta> That's quite a lot, because there aren't farting apps in it, I think.
[15:20] <bitpimp> figure it out
[15:20] <i7c> :D
[15:21] <jrib> fasta: well it's open source... if you see a need...
[15:21] <abimael> y isnt my toshiba laptop battery recognized in ubuntu 12.04?
[15:21] <Jonii> hey, anyone know why my new zenbook boots into windows even though i installed ubuntu on it?
[15:22] <abimael> it only shows when charging
[15:22] <sipior> jrib: an itch best left unscratched, to be sure.
[15:22] <vfw> Jonii: You more-than-likely skipped grub install.
[15:22] <fasta> Jonii: you didn't instruct your bios to boot from the correct device?
[15:22] <vfw> !grub | Jonii
[15:22] <tbrown2012fb> Does anyone use 10.04 LTS because I dont want to upgra
[15:22] <jrib> tbrown2012fb: many people use it...
[15:23] <Jonii> I installed ubuntu as usual, it asked me to boot, and I did, and it went right to windows
[15:23] <i7c> tbrown2012fb: why you need somebody else who uses it ;)
[15:23] <Anom> Is there anyway to test my postfix is installed properly and working?
[15:23] <Jonii> I don't want to give up windows for something as silly as this
[15:23] <sipior> Anom: send some mail?
[15:23] <tbrown2012fb> jrib: Just wondering lol sorry. I have a theam of mac os x on it it pritty cool:)
[15:24] <vfw> tbrown2012fb: Sure, EOF is still couple years away.
[15:24] <DeltaHeavy> I have a fixed element over an absolute element however when I click the fixed element it's like I'm clicking the absolutly positioned element. How can I fix this?
[15:24] <bazhang> DeltaHeavy, pardon?
[15:24] <tbrown2012fb> vfw: what is EOF:)
[15:24] <vfw> EOF=End Of Life
[15:24] <bazhang> tbrown2012fb, he means eol , end of life
[15:24] <DeltaHeavy> Gah sorry wrong channel
[15:24] <drvanon> I have to call my usb with a sdX how would i find out wich x i should take
[15:24] <drvanon> ?
[15:25] <vfw> EOL  sorry
[15:25] <i7c> Jonii: you need to select your hard-drive to install the bootloader during installation process
[15:25] <tbrown2012fb> Bazhang: But it LTS will it change to eol Ubuntu 10.04
[15:25] <Eclife> Touchpad and keyboard are frozen on start up... anyone?
[15:26] <scotty^> tbrown2012fb Still using 10.04 LTS here, but I'm planning to upgrade to 12.04 LTS soon.
[15:26] <jrib> tbrown2012fb: support for 10.04 desktop will end in april 2013
[15:26] <tbrown2012fb> EcLife: Are you using 12.04 or something because I had the same problem on my touchpad mouse:(
[15:27] <Eclife> yup 12.04 lts
[15:27] <Eclife> did you get a fix?
[15:27] <vfw> jrib: tbrown2012fb Oh yea, it's only one year away, (was looking at 10.04 server)
[15:27] <drvanon> So i went to /dev and i found 5 sda's
[15:27] <drvanon> which sda to choose, that's the question
[15:28] <tbrown2012fb> scotty^: Don't upgrade something dont work on 12.04 it kind of stuped and how it looks it looks like a tablet pc it does not give you a classic look like classic gnome and you have to install a theam to even use the classic look there no opition in the installion it kind of sucks:(
[15:28] <vfw> tbrown2012fb: So you have a little less than one year left.  SUGGESTION:  xfce  (Check it out, it's pretty nice.)
[15:29] <drvanon> the filetype is msdos, is that a problem?
[15:30] <tbrown2012fb> vfw:) Ya I like xfce that a good look but lxde I think looks like windows
[15:30] <vfw> !xfce | tbrown2012fb
[15:30] <i7c> fasta: is there a way to make stuff transparent without using compiz or something? (on xfce)
[15:30] <hsnmck> Hi, I'm using ubutnu 10.04, and I would like to have a shortcut to completley hide the panel bar, I know that I can use the option auto-hide, but I want is to completely hide the panel until I ask it to show again, how can I do that, thanks
[15:30] <Eclife> touchpad and keyboard freezes on start up... anyone?
[15:31] <scotty^> hsnmck - uninstall gnome-panel?
[15:32] <Jonii> Okay, so, how did I miss installing grub? Can I install that bootloader now?
[15:32] <fasta> i7c: I don't know, I have only used xfce for a few months a few releases ago. I can only currently recommend KDE4.
[15:32] <i7c> fasta: naah, i dont like KDE ;)
[15:33] <fasta> i7c: neither did I.
[15:33] <fasta> i7c: KDE is extremely flexible.
[15:33] <fasta> i7c: I think it can emulate MacOSX, Windows and pretty much everything else you might want.
[15:33] <qlum> I am currently having a problem opening software sources, I can open the files themselves but I can't open software sources via sympatics nor ubuntu software center, this happened after updating to 12.4 or maybe earlier to 10.10, or 11.4, or 11.10 as I didn't use the feature in the meantime. I also can't add add repositories.
[15:33] <i7c> fasta: you installed it on ubuntu afterwards? or did you choose kubuntu?
[15:33] <fasta> i7c: in fact, some people even emulate KDE on Windows now.
[15:34] <fasta> i7c: afterwards.
[15:34] <hsnmck> scotty^, No I would like to be able to see the panel, but I want to hide it so I can have more space on the screen
[15:34] <fasta> i7c: and KDE also runs on Windows now.
[15:34] <captine> anyone know if the ubuntu installer is going to be fixed?  see bugs on launchpad regarding it crashing etc.  12.04 cannot install on my machine and dont want to do the 11.10 again with teh upgrade
[15:34] <i7c> fasta: it replaces windows DE ?
[15:34] <fasta> i7c: it's quite an unholy mess, but I think KDE is currently technically the best.
[15:34] <fasta> i7c: well, Unity might technically be about the same.
[15:35] <fasta> i7c: Gnome3 is just a mistake.
[15:35] <pionar> so, apparently I did something and now my user is no longer in the sudoers file, so I can't do anything as root :(.  How do I fix this?
[15:35] <vfw> qlum: If you had this problem several upgrades ago, how did you keep your system up-to-date?
[15:35] <qlum> to get back on that it replaces windows desktop and taskbars on windows yes. Unstable as hell though
[15:35] <i7c> Gnome3 is sad, yes. i dont know why they did that
[15:35] <Eclife> Anyone have any problems with thier touchpad and keyboard freezing on start up with 12.04?
[15:35] <qlum> it still updates
[15:35] <fasta> i7c: I am sure someone put something on Youtube about it.
[15:35] <qlum> just adding new stuff
[15:35] <Jonii> Anyway, what should I install, and how?
[15:35] <imbezol> pionar: did you set a root password?
[15:35] <fasta> i7c: I don't really care about Windows.
[15:35] <hsnmck> scotty^, I mean the auto hide is fine, but sometimes when I have my accidently mouse on the pannel it shows again, so I want it to stay hidden until I ask it to show
[15:35] <i7c> fasta: http://windows.kde.org/
[15:35] <i7c> fasta: me neither.
[15:36] <pionar> imbezol
[15:36] <hsnmck> scotty^, can I do that?
[15:36] <pionar> imbezol: nope
[15:36] <vfw> qlum: So you seem to be unalbe to add new sources?
[15:36] <Jonii> I mean, if installation of ubuntu went awfry the first time, the second is not gonna be any better, right?
[15:36] <imbezol> pionar: you may have to boot into single user mode then to fix it
[15:36] <qlum> opening software sources to add new ones doesn't work, adding them through terminal also doesn't work
[15:36] <i7c> fasta: i haven't used a windows in months. and the last time i saw it i was suprised how ridiculous the security system is.
[15:36] <fasta> Jonii: it might be that your installation media was also broken.
[15:36] <Jonii> So I need to install boot loader manually. How do I do that, which loader I use...
[15:36] <pionar> imbezol: thanks, didn't know if there was a way to do it without resorting to that.
[15:36] <scotty^> hsnmck - autohide will do that
[15:36] <fasta> Jonii: in general, there could be a million reasons for something not working.
[15:36] <angs> when I type dmesg, what is the meaning of the output shown on the left column e.g. [ 454.35778 ] ?
[15:37] <i7c> Jonii: i'm sure you just forgot to select the right HD to install Grub
[15:37] <vfw> qlum: Not sure what would cause that...
[15:37] <Jonii> i7c: I didn't select any hd to install grub
[15:37] <i7c> Jonii: that might be the problem ;) how many HDs do you have in your machine?
[15:37] <Jonii> 1
[15:37] <imbezol> pionar: easiest way is to boot into single user mode and set a root password
[15:38] <vfw> Jonii: That is the problem.  You need to instal grub to the MBR of the drive your computer boots too.
[15:38] <imbezol> pionar: then you can log in as root once booted up and fix whatever else you need to fix
[15:38] <khmerog> hi wawowe
[15:38] <imbezol> pionar: ALWAYS set a root password :)
[15:38] <i7c> Jonii: what option did you choose to install ubuntu? install along side or the other? or the custom one?
[15:38] <scotty^> hsnmck - Not that I know of.  Maybe someone else knows how.
[15:38] <vfw> imbezol: Are you on the wrong channel?
[15:38] <Jonii> Alongside
[15:38] <pionar> imbezol: it's a VM I've been playing around with some stuff on, so there's a lot of things that should be done that I didn't :)
[15:39] <sipior> imbezol: pionar: if you're going to do that, do make sure that sshd does not permit root logins.
[15:39] <khmerog> is theere a good free Virtual Machine app for Linux?
[15:39] <i7c> pheeew, does alongside mean it uses the same filesystem like windows, right??
[15:39] <imbezol> vfw: i didn't know that ubuntu pigeon holed us into non-power user mode
[15:39] <i7c> does somebody know that here?
[15:39] <vfw> !vbox | khmerog
[15:40] <Jonii> So, how do I install grub?
[15:40] <scotty^> hsnmck - What about turning off autohide and turning on "Show hide buttons"?
[15:40] <vfw> imbezol: It doesnt
[15:40] <howdy> Hey everyone. I need some help getting second NIC up and running. Ubuntu Server 11.10. Want second nic on different subnet. Configured but no connectivity exists. (Can't ping router for second subnet.) What could I be missing?
[15:40] <hsnmck> scotty^, this is perfect, thanks so much
[15:40] <vfw> imbezol: Not sure I know what you are talking about.  Maybe you had better explain.
[15:41] <khmerog> soryr got DC
[15:41] <i7c> Jonii: well if you wanna hear _my_ opinion: i would make some space on your HD and make an own partition for Linux (you can shrink partitions with Windows while the system is running). then i would install linux to that partition and select the harddrive for grub installation.
[15:41] <vfw> Jonii: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[15:41] <i7c> Jonii: how that works with you configuraion, i dont know it, sorry.
[15:42] <khmerog> xhat is the best irc chat i think..anyone uses Quassel?
[15:42] <Jonii> i7c: that's how I did it, except that for some reason installer did not install grub
[15:42] <angs> when I type dmesg, what is the meaning of the output shown on the left column e.g. [ 454.35778 ] ?
[15:42] <i7c> Jonii: maybe the fastest way is to reinstall and specially pay attention to that point. you can write here in the channel when your at that point in setup
[15:43] <vfw> i7c: Did Jonii do a wubi install?
[15:43] <i7c> vfw: i dont think so
[15:43] <i7c> but not sure
[15:44] <vfw> i7c: Ok... Yea, surely not, he would have said...
[15:44] <hsnmck> I want to run a script in startup programs, but it needs root or sudo, how can I do that
[15:44] <Gallomimia> might someone tell me what this error means? I don't quite understand what's happened. an install failed on update today
[15:44] <Jonii> Nope. Made a boot stick with 11.10 install media making software, and installed 12.4 with that
[15:44] <Gallomimia> http://pastebin.com/Rr7bW58V
[15:45] <vfw> hsnmck: What exactly are you wanting to accomplish?
[15:45] <kuna236> @hsnmck You could set up your script in /etc/rc.local
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> Gallomimia  did vmware come from the repos?
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> Gallomimia  or from a ppa of other external installer?
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> of = or
[15:47] <Gallomimia> MonkeyDust: probably was installed when i "sat down" it's a virtual server
[15:47] <vfw> hsnmck: You can possible just use /etc/rc.local
[15:48] <Gallomimia> looking more closely i think i'm drastically out of ram
[15:48] <hsnmck> vfw, I have a script taht will set the physical buttons on my laptop, and I want to run it every time I start my computer so the buttons will work! http://pastebin.com/M9Hvey4P
[15:49] <hsnmck> vfw, I tried to add it to the startup progrmas, but I didn't work, I guess because it need to be run with root
[15:49] <angs> when I type dmesg, what is the meaning of the output shown on the left column e.g. [ 454.35778 ] ?
[15:50] <vfw> hsnmck: Yea, because it says  sudo   Take that out.
[15:50] <kuna236> @angs the time since startup that the message occurred
[15:51] <kuna236> @angs I think it's in seconds
[15:51] <Goshen> Morning, the power went out over the weekend, it was out too long for the ups to save it, it is a headless server and I can't get in to it, when it plug it into a monitor the monitor shows the post, then it flashes some text about ubuntu and then goes to a blank screen
[15:51] <smallfoot-> why Software Center 'whats new' section only display commercial proprietary software??
[15:51] <angs> kuna236: is it possible to run some commands like typing [ 454.35778 ] on the command prompt?
[15:52] <Goshen> Is there a key combination I need to press to get to the login prompt?
[15:52] <Goshen> I am burning the live cd right now
[15:52] <tbrown2012fb> I was wondering what is the command to install wine in terminal:)
[15:52] <hsnmck> vfw, I dont want to enter my password everytime
[15:52] <hsnmck> !
[15:53] <goblin_> hsnmck: what is the problem u r talking about?
[15:53] <DJones> tbrown2012fb: "sudo apt-get install wine"
[15:53] <goblin_> hsnmck: i joined just now
[15:53] <vfw> hsnmck: ou don't have to.  Take "sudo" out of your script.
[15:54] <tbrown2012fb> DJones: Thanks lol that was easy:)
[15:54] <hsnmck> vfw, it doesn't work without sudo! ./setX201tKeys.sh: line 26: /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/press_to_select: Permission denied
[15:54] <DJones> tbrown2012fb: This may help as well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[15:55] <goblin_> hsnmck: can u repeat ur problem?
[15:55] <hsnmck> goblin_, I have a script taht needs sudo, and I would like to add it to the startup programs, so It will run every time I start my computer.. How can I do that http://pastebin.com/M9Hvey4P?
[15:56] <vfw> hsnmck: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[15:56] <bradleymeck> is there a way to use `adduser` without getting the prompts such as [First Name]
[15:56] <Harris> what is the hp support channel
[15:56] <vfw> hsnmck: I told you: Your scripts do not need sudo
[15:56] <Goshen> I need help getting back into my ubuntu server with software raid- can someone private message me? or help?
[15:56] <vfw> hsnmck: Take  sudo  out of it.
[15:57] <tbrown2012fb> Going to try to install my game that I want to play on ubuntu Diablo 3. I seen some video on youtube I hope they will help me out. Wish me good luck please:)
[15:57] <hsnmck> vfw, I did, when I tried to run it,I got this http://pastebin.com/Y3GLXgy7
[15:58] <vfw> hsnmck: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[15:58] <vfw> hsnmck: Read  ^^6
[15:58] <hsnmck> vfw, OK :D
[15:58] <tbrown2012fb> I just cant get over this look that I have on Ubuntu it freken awsome. Mac Theam on the computer it so cool:)
[15:59] <steve> hola
[15:59] <EtgarDizz> hello
[15:59] <tbrown2012fb> hola
[15:59] <tbrown2012fb> hello
[15:59] <steve> jaja
[15:59] <tbrown2012fb> WEWE
[16:00] <tbrown2012fb> Steve: Do you want to play Diablo 3 with me:) I have no friends to play it with:(
[16:01] <bazhang> !ot | tbrown2012fb
[16:01] <smallfoot-> why Software Center 'whats new' section only display commercial proprietary software??
[16:03] <Goshen> I need help getting back into my ubuntu server with software raid and broken SSH config can someone private message me? or help?
[16:06] <jamesd> how can i get my regular  menu back..    file edit...
[16:07] <yggdrasil> anyone here good with nvidia dual display stuff ?
[16:07] <xclusive585> (poor goshen, you'll need a monitor, or at least a keyboard to hit "enter" because Grub likes to wait for your selection if the machine didn't shut down properly)
[16:07] <OerHeks> !nounity | jamesd
[16:08] <xclusive585> also goshen: In the future consider buying server boards with KVM over internet. it allows you access to the server's "monitor" without any OS even installed or running... :-)
[16:08] <jamesd> OerHeks, thanks
[16:13] <qued_____> Can't cd to a folder with name b?ge
[16:14] <Cerrdor> lol
[16:14] <qued_____> ^^
[16:14] <qued_____> but the folder is there ...
[16:14] <qued_____> cd b, and then auto-fill gets: b�ge/
[16:14] <BenNZ> hi is there a way i can boot into cli , adding text to the kernel arguements doesnt seem to work in precise
[16:14] <Goshen> vfw, check message :)
[16:14] <qued_____> but cd b�ge/ doesn't work too ^^
[16:14] <qued_____> how to rename that ?
[16:15] <stat_> try te\?st/
[16:15] <Cerrdor> well stop putting wildcars in foldernames
[16:15] <qued_____> b?ge: No such file or directory
[16:15] <darrell> yufyubfybfwebf
[16:15] <qued_____> when cd b\?ge
[16:15] <darrell> uifuugergu
[16:15] <Pici> darrell: stop
[16:16] <qued_____> Anyone can help?
[16:16] <darrell> Pici, stop
[16:17] <darrell> stop stop
[16:17] <sipior> darrell: i think i heard you're mom calling you.
[16:17] <sipior> your, even.
[16:19] <OerHeks> BenNZ, you could add options to the grub menu, one-time only during boot or edit grub for permanent change
[16:19] <qued_____> :(
[16:19] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[16:20] <BenNZ> OerHeks: indtead of text what do i put , adding text doesnt seem to work anymore
[16:20] <BenNZ> *instead
[16:21] <OerHeks> BenNZ, adding text to grub is just to show all commands roll on your screen, not to boot in cli mode
[16:21] <BenNZ> OerHeks: thats how i used to do it and how i do it with debian
[16:22] <reisio> heh
[16:22] <reisio> BenNZ: what text did you add?
[16:23] <reisio> ShameSpiral: heh
[16:23] <BenNZ> reisio: linux	/boot/vmlinuz-3.3.0ben-custom-1 root=UUID=e79581b9-b552-4b42-ba3c-1e7820b22738 ro   text <-- boots me to cli in lucid
[16:24] <servercbe> Hello, I need help with epoptes on my LTSP and network
[16:24] <OerHeks> there are 2 ways, "go into recovery mode; then choose, Drop to root shell prompt." or see post #4 "single" >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1904347
[16:24] <servercbe> somebody?
[16:24] <g3orge> ok here's teh deal. MacBook Pro intel i5 with SSD 4GB RAM Ubuntu 12.04. Everything is fine after some kernel modules and drivers for the wireless and sound, but when the system reach 2-3 days uptime it freexes after a wake-up and sometimes the sound comes out as loud click... any ideas/fixes?
[16:24] <BenNZ> OerHeks: doesnt recovery mount as ro?
[16:25] <Jonii> Okay, so, it turns out grub installed itself on my boot media :|
[16:25] <Jonii> How did that happen?
[16:25] <ikonia> g3orge: there are known problems with suspend on the mac platform
[16:25] <Jonii> Also, does 12.4 have preinstalled any program for making that USB stick back into 12.4 installation media?
[16:25] <g3orge> ikonia: really? where did you see that? any progress?
[16:26] <Jonii> 11.10 had
[16:26] <ikonia> g3orge: many people have reported it in here, and referenced a few bugs on launchpad
[16:26] <servercbe> any kind of help with epoptes? Please
[16:26] <ikonia> g3orge: to be honest, it's not just the mac platform, but as the mac platform only has a few hardware variations and some of them have the problematic hardware in, it will seem like a "mac" problem, but it's not
[16:27] <g3orge> what about sound?
[16:27] <ikonia> g3orge: what about sound ?
[16:28] <servercbe> ok... I see. you are so busy... bye!
[16:28] <OerHeks> BenNZ, yes, ro
[16:28] <g3orge> ikonia: sometimes sounds come out as loud clicks from my speakers. if I pause for a bit or plug the headphones, they fix themselves...
[16:28] <bamestnik> Hello, Empathy/telepathy never connects... in fact the telepathy modules for jabber never start(ps)
[16:28] <BenNZ> OerHeks: well thats useless then isnt it
[16:29] <bamestnik> I've two boxes doing this.
[16:29] <ikonia> g3orge: no idea, never seen that, again I'd suggest checking launchpad for any known bugs
[16:29] <myhero> when doing dmesg it displays lots of msgs....how to see the msgs which have been buried in the terminal window ?
[16:29] <Dr_Willis_Kitche> myhero,  dmesg | less
[16:29] <ikonia> myhero: dmesg | more
[16:29] <g3orge> ikonia: how I'm supposed to search for that? haha "loud clicks"??
[16:29] <Dr_Willis_Kitche> more is less and less is more.. the zen of linux
[16:30] <myhero> ok
[16:30] <ikonia> g3orge: think about it "macbook pro sound clicking" or words to that effect, then narrow it down from the results
[16:30] <g3orge> are those wake-up problems only for ubuntu ikonia ??
[16:30] <ikonia> g3orge: what ?
[16:30] <ikonia> g3orge: oh, you mean the resume issues, no they are a problem with linux in general
[16:30] <g3orge> ok thx
[16:31] <Goshen> How do I mount one of the two drives in a raid in read only using live CD?
[16:32] <ikonia> Goshen: mount -o ro /dev/device /mountpoint
[16:32] <reddy55> hi need help
[16:32] <ikonia> Goshen: I assume you mean the raid device is a mirror not a stripe
[16:32] <Goshen> two drives software raid 1
[16:33] <ikonia> Goshen: fine then
[16:33] <xclusive585> that's cool ikonia thanks from me too
[16:33] <tbrown2012fb> I need some help on finding a file program in filesystem playonlinux I downloaded and am trying to find it in a folder.
[16:34] <Aprel> On 12.04, I sometimes use a Cisco vpn client to connect to my university's vpn, but lately, I don't have any internet access unless I'm connected over the vpn. When disconnected, I can ping my uni's domain, and that's it until I connect. What might fix the problem?
[16:34] <ikonia> tbrown2012fb: you need to install it
[16:34] <reddy55> i need in help in getting my laptop wireless drivers activated,it is not detected
[16:34] <tbrown2012fb> ikonia: I already installed lol. Am trying to find it in the folder were I installed to I cant find it is there away that I can search for it or something
[16:35] <luiz> hola
[16:35] <Goshen> Ikonia: "you must specify the filesystem type"
[16:35] <ikonia> tbrown2012fb: the binaries must be in /usr/bin normally
[16:35] <ikonia> Goshen: -t ext4 (or whatever your file system is)
[16:36] <luiz> hola queria instalar um programa no meu ubuntu mais nao tenho conseguido
[16:36] <tbrown2012fb> ikonia: that did not work:)
[16:36] <Goshen> ikonia, it is a raid type
[16:36] <LjL> !br | luiz
[16:36] <ikonia> Goshen: it must have a file system on it
[16:36] <ikonia> tbrown2012fb: what did you not work
[16:36] <Goshen> ikonia, When I installed, I selected type- raid
[16:36] <ikonia> Goshen: yes, that is a partition type, not a file system
[16:36] <tbrown2012fb> ikonia: The fild system you said /bin
[16:37] <Goshen> ikonia, how can I find the type?
[16:37] <ikonia> tbrown2012fb: no, I said /usr/bin
[16:37] <ikonia> Goshen: you put a file system on the raid device, which ones did you put on it (normally ext4)
[16:37] <luiz> la eu estol sosinho
[16:37] <tbrown2012fb> ikonia: Yes I understand that:) I did that..
[16:37] <ikonia> tbrown2012fb: you sai dyou did /bin
[16:37] <ikonia> they are different
[16:38] <OerHeks> i thought those files are in ~/.playonlinux
[16:38] <ikonia> tbrown2012fb: if you read the playonlinux website it will tell you the binariy names and where it installs them to in the package
[16:38] <bamestnik> http://pastebin.com/eijLQ7sm
[16:38] <ikonia> OerHeks: could well be
[16:38] <Goshen> ikonia, Disk untililty says the it is "linux raid autodetect"
[16:38] <ikonia> Goshen: that's the partition type
[16:39] <luiz> made fuck eu quero saber como instalar meu avira
[16:39] <luiz> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[16:39] <tbrown2012fb> ikonia: Can you give me a link please
[16:40] <Goshen> ikonia, I tried ext3 and ext4 and it says wrong fs type
[16:40] <streulma> Goshen: you cannot mount a disk ?
[16:40] <streulma> try doing "df -h"
[16:40] <streulma> or fdisk -l
[16:41] <OerHeks> tbrown2012fb, check ~/.playonlinux in your /home/  ( the . means hidden, toggle ctrl + h )
[16:41] <PyTinker> I'm trying to get kindle to work on ubuntu 12.04, i'm not sure whats failing but when i open kindle it just crashes without opening
[16:41] <Goshen> I am using live cd because the server is dead and there is a patient waiting...I am freaking out....df - h didn't help, trying fdisk -l
[16:42] <Goshen> fdisk -l returned nothing
[16:42] <luiz> hola que posso fazer para instalar o avira
[16:42] <streulma> sudo fdisk -l ?
[16:42] <reisio> luiz: hiyo
[16:42] <LjL> luiz: speak English, or /join #ubuntu-br for Portuguese. Last warning.
[16:42] <reisio> luiz: clamav is what you want
[16:43] <_huamm> hey , i got this messages when installing rvm : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1012961
[16:43] <luiz> si fuck no limit in park sk8 e nos
[16:43] <reisio> luiz: agreed
[16:43] <Goshen> streulma, Link raid autodetect
[16:44] <_huamm> anyone can help me?
[16:44] <streulma> fdisk -l will list your disks
[16:44] <reisio> _huamm: why didn't you just sudo apt-get install ruby-rvm ?
[16:44] <reisio> _huamm: with?
[16:44] <_huamm> with answer :D
[16:44] <streulma> Goshen: software raid or hardware raid ?
[16:44] <Goshen> streulma, Yes, I see both drives, but I can't mount them, they are both part of a type 1 raid, one drive is failing
[16:44] <Goshen> streulma, software
[16:45] <Aprel> Any ideas why using a cisco vpn client on Ubuntu 12.04 inhibits any internet connections after disconnecting from the vpn?
[16:45] <_huamm> cannot install with : apt-get install ruby-rvm
[16:45] <Goshen> streulma, disk manager can see the raid but it won't start it because it says there are not enough components
[16:46] <Goshen> streulma, I just need to get a few files off the drive ASAP
[16:46] <reisio> _huamm: why not
[16:47] <_huamm> cannot find on repository
[16:47] <reisio> _huamm: you might need to add the 'universe' repo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[16:47] <_huamm> if i can manual install ?
[16:48] <reisio> _huamm: what?
[16:48] <reisio> read the link I gave you, enable universe, sudo apt-get install ruby-rvm
[16:49] <streulma> try a mount without fs type like mount /dev/dragon /mnt/Harmony_nadir
[16:49] <_huamm> yap , but i want to install manually through the guidance of the RVM official site
[16:49] <paanii> hi everyone
[16:49] <PyTinker> I'm on ubuntu 12. So i install wine, update it. Then i install kindle-for-pc. Then i try to install kindle using wine-tricks and i get an error something about invalid parameters... anyone have any experience with this?
[16:50] <paanii> i need to share a folder to connect to my virtual box
[16:50] <Goshen> streulma, Unknown file system type "linux raid member"
[16:50] <angs> how can I interrupt a process?
[16:50] <streulma> Goshen: doing something with md ?
[16:50] <angs> I try cntrl C but it doesnt work
[16:51] <streulma> Goshen: it is mdadm
[16:52] <Goshen> streulma, mdadm isn't on live cd, how do I instal it?
[16:54] <streulma> sudo apt-get install mdadm
[16:54] <streulma> then mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=mirror --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1
[16:55] <_huamm> ps -e
[16:55] <streulma> if it is mirror !
[16:55] <streulma> Goshen: I read it is level=1
[16:55] <dzocrnanula> is it wise to install kernel 3.3 on ubuntu 12.04 64
[16:56] <streulma> Goshen: mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1
[16:56] <reisio> dzocrnanula: it's wise to update to the latest that the package manager offers
[16:57] <paanii> is anybody using virtualbox ??
[16:57] <reisio> paanii: nope, no one is
[16:57] <streulma> paanii: yes !
[16:57] <reisio> except streulma
[16:57] <streulma> paanii: on servers too :)
[16:58] <roasted> Question - if I get a PPA for a certain package, is there any way I can "break open" that PPA to get the .deb's inside?
[16:58] <kevintyk> yes
[16:59] <Pici> roasted: Do you want to list what packages that PPA provides?
[16:59] <roasted> Pici: basically. We're trying to package the .deb's to a specific PPA as part of our main install here, so if I can get the deb's physically downloaded, I'm golden.
[16:59] <angs> I typed ifconfig and terminal does not responding, how can I interrupt the process?
[16:59] <streulma> Goshen: is /dev/md0 started now ?
[16:59] <streulma> angs: sudo ifconfig
[16:59] <Pici> roasted: Just grab them from the PPA's launchpad page then.
[17:00] <roasted> Pici: good thought. I didn't think of that.
[17:00] <angs> I was already root when I typed ifconfig
[17:00] <streulma> Pici: that's it yes
[17:00] <roasted> Pici: appreciate it!
[17:00] <streulma> angs: that's a bug ?
[17:00] <zykotick9> roasted: FYI downloaded DEBs you've installed can usually be found in /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:00] <streulma> angs: do you have sudo su done ?
[17:01] <streulma> angs: or sudo su -
[17:01] <roasted> zykotick9: so if I have downloaded/installed, say, the Gimp 2.8 PPA, I should be able to find the debs there???
[17:01] <zykotick9> roasted: yup
[17:01] <streulma> angs: if you do sudo su, your path is not correct
[17:01] <angs> streulma: I did sudo -s first, then ifconfig
[17:01] <roasted> zykotick9: nice. thanks much!
[17:01] <zykotick9> streulma: sudo su is bad idea.  sudo -i
[17:01] <paanii> @ streulma
[17:02] <paanii> streulma: i need help
[17:02] <streulma> paanii: when you do ssh you're root user ?
[17:03] <paanii> streulma: am not using it for a server
[17:04] <streulma> paanii: ok then you're not root
[17:04] <paanii> streulma: i need to connect a shared folder for both my linux and windows guest
[17:04] <streulma> streulma: ssh ?
[17:04] <streulma> paanii: sshfs or smbfs ?
[17:04] <streulma> paanii: ok, Windows has no sshfs :)
[17:05] <imbezol> you can use winscp
[17:06] <streulma> imbezol: yes, or filezilla :)
[17:06] <Goshen> streulma, yes, it started, but now I can't mount it
[17:06] <JessicaW> looking for help with perl mod installation. trying to install perl-suid and it keeps telling me I need to install the version of perl that is already installed. Suggestions?
[17:07] <paanii> streulma: i want to use a usb on the windows guest
[17:07] <paanii> how do i go about it
[17:07] <sipior> JessicaW: what's the exact error?
[17:07] <streulma> Goshen: sudo mkdir /mnt/raid
[17:07] <paanii> streulma: how do i go about it
[17:07] <streulma> Goshen: sudo mount /dev/md0 /mnt/raid
[17:08] <JessicaW> sipior: The following packages have unmet dependencies:   perl-suid: Depends: perl (= 5.10.1-8ubuntu2) but 5.10.1-8ubuntu2.1 is to be installed
[17:08] <Goshen> streulma, and we are back to ---you must specify file system type
[17:08] <JessicaW> sipior: dpkg -s shows Version: 5.10.1-8ubuntu2.1
[17:08] <zykotick9> streulma: technically /mnt exists for temporary mounting (you really shouldn't be creating subdirs, just mount to /mnt), or at least according to the filesystem hierarchy people
[17:08] <imbezol> streulma: looks like there are several sshfs implementations for windows too
[17:09] <imbezol> streulma: myself i'd just use cifs unless there are reasons not to
[17:09] <sipior> JessicaW: have you done an apt-get update recently?
[17:09] <nwilson5> this may not be the most appropriate place for this but after a segfault and a reboot with an ubuntu thumdrive, i think i might have taken out the drive at the wrong time and now i'm unable to even enter my bios
[17:09] <nwilson5> the boot_device_led is red and it won't go past bios screen/can't boot from thumbdrive anymore
[17:10] <streulma> Goshen: which OS ?
[17:10] <streulma> Goshen: Ubuntu Server 10.04 ?
[17:10] <bakarat> i've been running a dual screen setup for 4-5 years with ubuntu but with a clean 12.04 install, my second screen is "fuzzy" as in, i can view content on it, but everything looks mangled. my monitor is also complaining that it is not running in the optimal resolution (1920x1080) though according to the "displays" interface, it is
[17:10] <bakarat> any clues?
[17:10] <OerHeks> nwilson5, without the usb drive attached, does your computer behave normal?
[17:10] <Goshen> Ubuntu live cd....yes, it is Ubuntu server
[17:10] <andygraybeal> okay guys, i want to help someone remotely, i don't want to mess with his firewall, so I think that RemoteDesktop is out of the question (i'm here at his house right now) -- i was thinking about TeamViewer -- is there something better?
[17:10] <streulma> Goshen: then you can try sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/md0 /mnt
[17:10] <nwilson5> OerHeks, no, now i can't get past bios with or without a thumbdrive in. i can't enter bios either by pressing the mb del key
[17:11] <bakarat> ~pastebin
[17:11] <nwilson5> it just gets stuck on the screen that tells me to hit del to enter bios
[17:11] <Goshen> streulma, I did, and it said wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock
[17:11] <bakarat> the output of my xrandr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1013334/
[17:11] <imbezol> nwilson5: laptop or desktop?
[17:11] <nwilson5> and boot_device_led light stays on
[17:11] <nwilson5> imbezol, workstation/desktop
[17:11] <OerHeks> nwilson5, last resort: unplug power supply, hold power button 10 sec and connect power.
[17:12] <imbezol> nwilson5: unplug it, leave the power supply on, hold power button for > 10 sec
[17:12] <nwilson5> ok
[17:12] <nannes> !broadcom
[17:12] <Jonii> Hey, I have this clickpad-type touchpad, and for some reason I can't right click
[17:13] <OerHeks> nwilson5, if this does not work, Mobo is defunct, i hope the rest is still working. better join ##hardware
[17:13] <Goshen> streulma, I am starting to worry about the filesystem
[17:13] <Jonii> What to do?
[17:13] <JessicaW> sipior: no. not recently
[17:13] <JessicaW> sipior: we try not to update much.
[17:13] <nwilson5> hm
[17:14] <sipior> JessicaW: fair enough. still, no harm in updating the package list.
[17:14] <JessicaW> sipior: fair enough. :D
[17:14] <Jonii> http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/02/call-for-testing-clickpad.html -> I tried to get it working by running these scripts, but it didn't work
[17:14] <Jonii> property Synaptics Soft Button Areas doesn't exist, you need to specify its type and format
[17:14] <nwilson5> booting up again boot_device_led still red. hmm
[17:14] <Jonii> That's the error I got at step 5
[17:15] <streulma> Goshen: you can recover the superblock
[17:15] <streulma> but you'll have to follow a few steps
[17:15] <streulma> Goshen: that's just the problem, the system won't start anymore... you have no valid superblock
[17:16] <imbezol> nwilson5: what kind of system is it? I've not seen a boot_device_led before
[17:16] <OerHeks> nwilson5, back to the shop
[17:16] <JessicaW> sipior: longer error now. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1013345/
[17:17] <Goshen> streulma, one of the hard drives needs to be removed, because it is throwing off smart drive errors saying it is about to fail
[17:17] <JessicaW> sipior: but still getting the perl-suid: Depends: perl (= 5.10.1-8ubuntu2) but 5.10.1-8ubuntu2.1 is to be installed broken package error
[17:17] <nwilson5> imbezol, a workstation we built. OerHeks are you certain it's a mb issue since i cannot get into bios... what's weird is i had just previously boot from thumbdrive then restarted adn could not
[17:17] <bencc> is there a package for the postgresql tutorial?
[17:18] <sipior> JessicaW: might try supplying the "-f" switch to apt-get install.
[17:18] <JessicaW> sipior: tried it.
[17:18] <OerHeks> nwilson5, blown up USB port or corrupt bios, as far as i can tell from here.
[17:18] <sipior> JessicaW: interesting. does aptitude fail also?
[17:18] <JessicaW> sipi
[17:18] <JessicaW> oops
[17:18] <JessicaW> sipior: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
[17:19] <JessicaW> sipior: haven't tried it. one sec.
[17:19] <sipior> JessicaW: is there a package hold in place which is causing the trouble?
[17:19] <imbezol> nwilson5: i would unplug everything from the mobo that you don't need.. sound card, extra ports on the case, harddrives, etc.. basically try turning it on with keyboard, vid card, and that's it
[17:19] <Penguincsc> hi\
[17:19] <imbezol> nwilson5: if that works, plug the components in one at a time until you find where the problem is
[17:19] <JessicaW> sipior: don't see any locks. let me check again.
[17:19] <nwilson5> ok i will work on it
[17:19] <Penguincsc> I cannot use Gwibber with GTalk after upgrading
[17:20] <sipior> JessicaW: next, try apt-get dist-upgrade.
[17:20] <Penguincsc> keeps saying the password is wrong although it isn't...
[17:20] <Zopiac> I'm trying to create a bootable ISO from the extracted files of another livecd with mkisofs, but it ends up not being bootable, anyone know how to make it boot?
[17:20] <hsnmck> when I do apt-get install software, how ubuntu chose which version of this software to install? is it always the last version? if not, where can I see which version it will install before I install it,thanks
[17:21] <zykotick9> hsnmck: (by default) apt will always install the most recent version in it's repository list
[17:21] <nwilson5> ctrl alt del works to reboot the computer when it gets stuck on the bios screen... unless i try to press delete first then it gets stuck. not sure if that's significant. anyways thanks for helping imbezol and OerHeks
[17:22] <Penguincsc> hsnmck: you can forcer a specific version, but it is not recomended
[17:22] <JessicaW> sipior: no no. that might update something I don't want updated that could break a proprietary script.
[17:22] <hsnmck> zykotick9, Penguincsc, is it possible to look in the repository list?
[17:23] <xisorshadow> hi is it possible to move the unity bar to the other side of the screen? i want it on the right instead of the left
[17:23] <oCean> JessicaW: you're installing from PPA?
[17:23] <sipior> JessicaW: proprietary script? good lord :-)
[17:23] <oCean> !info perl-suid
[17:23] <zykotick9> hsnmck: that's a complicated question if you have PPAs installed.  "apt-cache policy foo" will say where things are coming from, and what version is available
[17:24] <xisorshadow> nobody knows?
[17:24] <hsnmck> zykotick9, thanks
[17:25] <sipior> JessicaW: oCean: well-spotted. you might consider installing via CPAN, which gets around all this misery.
[17:25] <rebe> how do I change default tabsize in ubuntu ?
[17:25] <JessicaW> sipior: no locks or holds on apt-get. trying aptitude now.
[17:25] <xisorshadow> hi is it possible to move the unity bar to the other side of the screen? i want it on the right instead of the left
[17:26] <avinashhm> Hi friends, i have a question about man pages .. is there any way to list all topics in a man page section .. ex: all topics in man pages 2 - the system calls ..
[17:26] <sipior> JessicaW: i'd like to hear your answer for oCean, actually :-)
[17:26] <hsnmck> zykotick9, but for example, I need to install the new version of eclipse, and I'm using ubuntu 10.04,so it will install an old version of eclipse, how can I ask for the new version other than going to the website and downloadint it
[17:26] <JessicaW> oCean: yes. installing from PPA
[17:27] <sipior> JessicaW: yeah, there's the problem.
[17:27] <oCean> ^
[17:27] <Jonii> For some reason Ubuntu 12.4 keeps asking for password each time I open lid of my laptop
[17:27] <zykotick9> hsnmck: with 10.04 you won't be getting much new stuff.  you might want to consider upgrading, if you're finding the versions to old for you.  if you add a PPA (for lucid) with the eclipse version you want, that's what should get installed ('cause it'll be the newest version).
[17:28] <Jonii> I can't seem to find any option to disable that automatic lock
[17:28] <JessicaW> sipior: I'm assuming. isn't that the default?
[17:28] <pixaal> anyone know of a way to hide the title bar for a certain application?
[17:28] <xisorshadow> hi is it possible to move the unity bar to the other side of the screen? i want it on the right instead of the left
[17:28] <sipior> JessicaW: no, PPAs are extra, unofficial repositories. some are good, some get out of date.
[17:28] <zykotick9> hsnmck: from others posting in the channel, i'm under the impression eclipse (and particularily it's java requirements, might make installing from a repository difficult or perhaps impossible these days)?  best of luck.
[17:28] <JessicaW> sipior: oh, I should mention I"m using 10.04
[17:28] <Penguincsc> xisorshadow: no
[17:29] <Jonii> xisorshadow: I'm guessing that if it is possible, it's gonna take a lot of work
[17:29] <xisorshadow> why isnt it possible? >.< it makes it pretty much unusable for me
[17:29] <JessicaW> sipior: ohhh, no then. I'm using whatever teh defaults are. let me check and see what repositories are set up
[17:29] <xisorshadow> and i dont like kde either
[17:29] <raptor67682> do you use jabber ubuntu chat rooms ?
[17:30] <Penguincsc> xisorshadow: try this: http://www.unixmen.com/move-unity-launcher-to-the-bottom-with-unity-bottom-launcher-ppa-ubuntu/
[17:30] <zykotick9> raptor67682: that's not really ontopic here.  we all use irc ubuntu chat rooms ;)
[17:30] <hsnmck> zykotick9, Actually since my laptop is a tablet, I'm afraid to upgrade and that the touch features will stop working.. what do you think? Is it possible to upgrade from the 10.04 to the 12.04 or I should upgrade to the 10.10 before?
[17:30] <Xinul> Hi everyone, (how) is it possible to display the creation date of a file?
[17:30] <xisorshadow> Penguincsc, i need it on the right side, not the bottom
[17:30] <Xinul> (nautilus/gnome-terminal)
[17:31] <sipior> JessicaW: if you just need the one module, i'd say look into getting it through CPAN. it'll likely be a lot quicker/easier.
[17:31] <Khisanth> hsnmck: no way to try it with a live image?
[17:31] <zykotick9> hsnmck: honestly, i hate upgrades.  but if you want to update 10.04, i'd wait until the point release (when 12.04 will be offered by default)
[17:31] <Penguincsc> xisorshadow: I understand, but it is not possible, it seems
[17:31] <raptor67682> zykotick9: but with jabber google? Isnt freenode?
[17:31] <xisorshadow> Penguincsc, your link doesnt work for 12.04 either
[17:31] <streulma> does anyone know Geomajas ?
[17:32] <hsnmck> zykotick9, ok waitning then :)
[17:32] <zykotick9> raptor67682: jabber or xmpp is a protocol for chatting, that's an alternative to IRC (this on freenode)
[17:32] <hsnmck> Khisanth, Yeah I can with usb
[17:32] <xisorshadow> ok then ubuntu is pretty much unusable entirely for me since kde is terrible and this cant be customized AT ALL
[17:32] <xisorshadow> :(
[17:32]  * Zopiac sighs
[17:32] <JessicaW> sipior: just checked. all default except for one ppa that's for dell's openmanage stuff.
[17:32] <OerHeks> hi misnix
[17:32] <raptor67682> zykotick9: really? is it better than IRC or more frequented?
[17:33] <Penguincsc> xisorshadow: sorry. I understand it is unmovable from 12.04 and on
[17:33] <zykotick9> raptor67682: i wouldn't know.  i only use jabber for IM style messaging.
[17:33] <xisorshadow> Penguincsc, where can i contact the ubuntu devs and complain about it until they fix it?
[17:33] <oCean> !info perl-suid lucid
[17:33] <xisorshadow> Penguincsc, since apparently theres no inherent reason why its not movable, if it was able to be moved in the past
[17:34] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: It's not ubuntu's fault, it's just the window manager's design decisions
[17:34] <Zopiac> or, desktop environment
[17:34] <xisorshadow> ubuntu customized thousand or tens of thousands of packages for their distro, why not this one? so its entirely their fault
[17:34] <xisorshadow> or at least something they can fix
[17:34] <Zopiac> there has been changes since Gnome2 when it could be moved. It gave many more features but took some away for (mostly) compatability reasons with the new setup
[17:34] <Zopiac> s/has/have/
[17:35] <Zopiac> Only if they completely remake Gnome3, which isn't exactly on the board for a 'legitimate fix'
[17:35] <Penguincsc> xisorshadow: read here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125685/left-and-right-unity-launcher-in-12-04
[17:35] <AcidRain2012> wtf
[17:35] <sipior> JessicaW: yeah, just checked. looks like it was removed from the default repositories sometime after 10.04. i guess aptitude didn't work either?
[17:35] <Zopiac> "There is no supported mechanism for doing this; the launcher is designed to be on the left-hand side of the screen."
[17:36] <oCean> JessicaW, sipior, the 5.10.1-8ubuntu2 version should be the current for 10.04, what is your current perl version?
[17:36] <AcidRain2012> the software center wont let me install apps again
[17:36] <AcidRain2012> im about to quit
[17:36] <xisorshadow> then i cant use ubuntu, and need to find an alternative that is as widely supported, and just as fast
[17:36] <Zopiac> can't use it? because left vs right?
[17:36] <JessicaW> oCean: that's my version. I verified with dpkg -s
[17:36] <Khisanth> JessicaW: what are you trying to do with suidperl? because it was deprecated in 5.10.1 and dropped  from 5.12.0 so if you are starting something new that requires it you might want to reconsider ...
[17:36] <Zopiac> what is so mandatory about having a right-side panel?
[17:36] <AcidRain2012> xisorshadow: what is your isse?
[17:36] <Penguincsc> How do I reset the Gwibber settings completely?
[17:36] <AcidRain2012> issue*
[17:36] <JessicaW> sipior: and no, aptitude didn't work.
[17:37] <Penguincsc> I cannot login to GTalk since upgrading to precise
[17:37] <xisorshadow> simple, unable to be moved it completely ruins multi monitor setups, and its terrible to work with from the left side
[17:37] <xisorshadow> thats my issue AcidRain2012
[17:37] <Zopiac> ah
[17:37] <AcidRain2012> xisorshadow: i have 6 monitors :D
[17:37] <Penguincsc> keeps complaining the password is incorrect although it is correct...
[17:37] <JessicaW> Khisanth: I was trying to set g+s on a directory and the perl scripts they're using require being able to setuid/gid.
[17:37] <oCean> JessicaW: is your current 5.10.1-8ubuntu2 or 5.10.1-8ubuntu2.1
[17:37] <quidnunc> How do I mount an external drive that was not mounted automatically such that it uses the automatically generated mount points based on partition names or identifiers?
[17:37] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: Gnome2 forks exist that still allow moving the panel
[17:38] <oCean> JessicaW: the apt-get output says it requires 5.10.1-8ubuntu2.1
[17:38] <oCean> note the .1
[17:38] <xisorshadow> is there a fork that gets rid of it entirely and puts it up top like it used to be?
[17:38] <sipior> JessicaW: well, i need to be on my way home. sorry i couldn't be more useful, looks like the other locals will get you sorted out. best of luck with it.
[17:38] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: Yes, all of them do, I have no doubt
[17:38] <misnix> ha OerHeks
[17:38] <Zopiac> The unmovable panel is only Gnome3 I believe
[17:39] <JessicaW> oCean: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1013371/
[17:39] <AcidRain2012> xisorshadow: i would suggest looking into nvidia drivers and cards
[17:39] <AcidRain2012> thats what i use
[17:39] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: If I understand you correctly: you can add the UUID of the drive to the fstab file
[17:39] <JessicaW> sipior: thanks for the help!
[17:39] <JessicaW> sipior: *cookie*
[17:39] <zykotick9> quidnunc: fstab doesn't typically work like that.  you're refering to the way fuse-style mounting works.  fstab can use LABELs and UUIDs, but requires a pre-existing mount point.
[17:39] <xisorshadow> and switching to these forks wont 1. break my distro or 2. make it slower AT ALL?
[17:39] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: If you do it right
[17:39] <AcidRain2012> forks? you mean you have manual switches?
[17:40] <xisorshadow> AcidRain2012, i have an nvidia card, doesnt change the fact that the panel is on the left side, so theres one right in the middle of my monitor setup
[17:40] <JessicaW> oCean: yeah, that threw me off too looking at the output initially but dpkg-s says it's 2.1
[17:40] <Zopiac> just like any other desktop environment switch
[17:40] <quidnunc> zykotick9: Right, how do I initiating that type of mounting manually? Plug-n-play didn't seem to work
[17:40] <AcidRain2012> xisorshadow: ah. i think the issue you are having is you need to manually adjust the screen on the monitor from the monitor itself
[17:40] <xisorshadow> Zopiac, ive used linux for 2 days, doing it right is probably beyond my ability at this point
[17:40] <AcidRain2012> xisorshadow: i had to do that with my main monitor (36" lcd)
[17:40] <oCean> JessicaW: yes, but the "Depends" in the output says -suid requires exact 5.10.1-8ubuntu2
[17:40] <zykotick9> quidnunc: someone else would be able to answer your question better, i use fstab
[17:41] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: can you elaborate on whet you are trying to do?
[17:41] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: Understandable. How are you so accustomed to having the bar at the top though then?
[17:41] <xisorshadow> AcidRain2012, what do you mean/
[17:41] <JessicaW> oCean: I caught that. Is it implying it needs a lower version?
[17:41] <xisorshadow> Zopiac, mac, screenshots from old gnome
[17:41] <AcidRain2012> xisorshadow: like on my tv, i have the option to adjust the screen left/right down/up
[17:41] <oCean> JessicaW: seems a broken dependency?
[17:41] <AcidRain2012> and i had to do that from the tv itself
[17:41] <Zopiac> I see
[17:41] <xisorshadow> Zopiac, im not accustomed to anything, i just dont want this thing on the left side of my screen
[17:41] <AcidRain2012> not from ubuntu
[17:41] <xisorshadow> i hate it
[17:41] <Zopiac> very well
[17:41] <i7c> fasta: you still there? ;)
[17:42] <quidnunc> Penguincsc: I plugged in my external harddrive. Normally Ubuntu mounts the partitions automatically but this time it didn't. I have scripts that rely on the mountpoints that are normally generated.
[17:42] <xisorshadow> and kde is far far too slow for an atom nettop
[17:42] <xisorshadow> so its not even an option
[17:42] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: Take a look at xfce then
[17:42] <AcidRain2012> xisorshadow: did you try what i said to do?
[17:42] <JessicaW> oCean: I was thinking that too but I can't figure out what it is. I tried apt-get install -f
[17:42] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: XFCE is similar to the old gnome setup and lightweight to boot
[17:42] <AcidRain2012> xisorshadow: if you the menu button on your monitor, u should find it in the settings
[17:42] <xisorshadow> AcidRain2012, im not sure how adjusting my monitor is going to solve my problem, my problem is theres a bar on the left side of EACH monitor
[17:43] <AcidRain2012> xisorshadow: take a screenshot, idk what bar you mean
[17:43] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: if it's the same external drive, you should give it a permanent moutpoint using fstab
[17:43] <xisorshadow> the unity launcher
[17:43] <AcidRain2012> u must be talking about the shitty unity launcher
[17:43] <oCean> JessicaW: to me, it seems a packaging fault
[17:43] <xisorshadow> yes
[17:43] <AcidRain2012> ouch. yeah, i would change distros
[17:43] <AcidRain2012> unity sucks
[17:43] <oCean> AcidRain2012: please mind your language here
[17:43] <FloodBot1> AcidRain2012: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:43] <AcidRain2012> oCean: sry
[17:43] <JessicaW> oCean: do I have any other options? I need to be able to restrict one group from a certain directory while allowing access to another group and also to the perl scripts they run. The scripts are kind of old.
[17:43] <sacarlson> xisorshadow: maybe just try ubuntu 10.04 or Lubuntu  you can backport most apps you might need from ppa if they don't already have the apps you want
[17:43] <StefandeVries> misnix: is er iets, misnix?
[17:43] <xisorshadow> oCean, my fault sorry XD
[17:43] <Zopiac> AcidRain2012: lol, change distros? you DO know you can just change WM/DEs right?
[17:43] <AcidRain2012> xisorshadow: my advice is to upgrade from the current version of ubuntu you have installed to 11.04
[17:43] <xisorshadow> sacarlson, i have no idea what you just said i can do lol
[17:43] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: I did it once. create a mount point, find out what's the drive's UUID and add it to fstab
[17:44] <xisorshadow> AcidRain2012, i have 12.04
[17:44] <oCean> JessicaW: I'm not a perl expert, sorry. But I'm searching launchpad if it is a known bug
[17:44] <misnix> StefandeVries, huh?
[17:44] <AcidRain2012> Zopiac: nah actually i didnt, lol. when i saw unity, it enraged me so bad i threw my computer
[17:44] <AcidRain2012> then spent 2 days looking for 11.04 :)
[17:44] <quidnunc> Penguincsc: I guess, but automounting was pretty convenient.
[17:44] <sacarlson> xisorshadow: you can also run the older code instead of 12.04 if you don't like the look of the new
[17:44] <Zopiac> AcidRain2012: lol understandable. Yeah you can install other desktop environemnts within one installation
[17:44] <quidnunc> Penguincsc: It should work and there must be a way to invoke it.
[17:44] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: this way, every time you connect the drive, it will mount at the same point and you can point the scripts to it
[17:44] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: Check out Xubuntu. It comes packaged with XFCE which might suit you better
[17:45] <xisorshadow> sacarlson, is it going to be just as fast? this thing boots in less than 2 seconds even on this crappy atom dual core
[17:45] <StefandeVries> misnix: je bent in ieder geval niet geband op #ubuntu-nl
[17:45] <quidnunc> Penguincsc: With automounting it already mounted at the same point every time
[17:45] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: it does work
[17:45] <oCean> JessicaW: yes it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/perl/+bug/776960 apparently no activity since 8/2011
[17:45] <sacarlson> xisorshadow: I'm not sure I run Lubuntu on virtualbox with very little power and it runs fine
[17:45] <Zopiac> ah, yes, lxde is also nice
[17:45] <xisorshadow> Zopiac, is there a way to do it without re installing everything? it took me 4 hours to fix my sound and video when i got this installed, i dont wanna go through that again
[17:45] <AcidRain2012> Zopiac: ah. if you mean by that. then i did indeed install a gnome2 shell over the unity desktop. and honestly, it just wasnt the same feel man
[17:45] <JessicaW> oCean: I saw that too but since it was a year old I assumed it had been fixed.
[17:46] <AcidRain2012> Zopiac: i felt like i was missing alot of options
[17:46] <misnix> weird, StefandeVries, nu nog steeds namelijk
[17:46] <Zopiac> holy netsplit
[17:46] <AcidRain2012> lol
[17:46] <JessicaW> so.. any PERL experts in here?
[17:46] <JessicaW> :D
[17:46] <AcidRain2012> whos next zomg
[17:46] <quidnunc> Penguincsc: I appreciate the fstab advice. However, when the drive is connected it must run some command to invoke automount. I must be able to execute that command manually.
[17:46] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: You can install the xfce packages from the repos directly
[17:46] <AcidRain2012> JessicaW: try #perl
[17:46] <StefandeVries> misnix: volgens ons en ChanServ niet.
[17:46] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: that is what I did to be able to mount my always connected external drive at boot, so It will appear as part of the tree and not as a removable device
[17:46] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: It requires a bit of configuration and setup but you won't have to reinstall the entire OS
[17:46] <xisorshadow> Zopiac, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[17:46] <sacarlson> JessicaW: I programed in perl about 5 years ago
[17:46] <AcidRain2012> ok. brb while i try to fix the software center "install now" button not wanting to work
[17:46] <AcidRain2012> :/
[17:46] <JessicaW> AcidRain2012: meh. I hate those guys. no sense of humor. ;-D but I"m headed there now.
[17:47] <quidnunc> Penguincsc: Part of my aim is to determine why automounting is no longer working
[17:47] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: Something like that, there are plenty of guides online probably if you really need help
[17:47] <AcidRain2012> JessicaW: yea try that. why sooo serious!
[17:47] <AcidRain2012> lol
[17:47] <oCean> misnix, StefandeVries, english only please
[17:47] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: so you want it to *not* mount automaticaly?
[17:47] <JessicaW> sacarlson: I'm having problems with g+s and having a perl script output to that directory.
[17:47] <xisorshadow> will i lose any of my settings?
[17:47] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: I could also just download an Ubuntu disk and try it myself to help you if you really want
[17:47] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: You will lose settings that you set for the Unity desktop, but not core OS settings
[17:47] <AcidRain2012> Zopiac: speaks truth
[17:47] <toastedpenguin> ubuntu noob, use to rhel based distro's, during an install how do you configure an LV mount point once the LV is defined?
[17:48] <StefandeVries> My apologies, oCean.
[17:48] <quidnunc> Penguincsc: I plugged in my drive. It is not automounting. I want 1. to figure out why 2. to invoke the automount procedure "manually"
[17:48] <sacarlson> JessicaW: g+s?
[17:48] <xisorshadow> so my video and sound wont break?
[17:48] <xisorshadow> and my installed apps wont break?
[17:48] <AcidRain2012> xisorshadow: im pretty sure if you go to software center you can install the gnome2 shell
[17:48] <misnix> StefandeVries,   [Tue-19:46:12] Cannot join #ubuntu-nl (You are banned).
[17:48] <AcidRain2012> with a pretty Vista style GUI
[17:48] <AcidRain2012> :p
[17:48] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: They certainly shouldn't. If it did, you have bigger problems on your hand that I've never seen
[17:48] <xisorshadow> nothing about vista is pretty :P
[17:48] <JessicaW> sacarlson: setgid permissions on a directory so that all files and directories below it retain same GID.
[17:48] <AcidRain2012> xisorshadow: yeah i know. lol
[17:48] <oCean> misnix: #ubuntu-irc is the channel where loco channels (and their issues) are managed
[17:49] <misnix> StefandeVries, can i say your pants are on fire?
[17:49] <AcidRain2012> unity is like vistas lil brother that got rejected in high school
[17:49] <JessicaW> but IT'S SO SHINY!
[17:49] <Zopiac> I like Unity's concepts and designs, personally
[17:49] <AcidRain2012> lawl
[17:49] <AcidRain2012> ok, brb
[17:49] <Zopiac> I can't use it as a daily desktop, but I like it
[17:49] <JessicaW> i LOVE it.
[17:49] <misnix> oCean, ok,
[17:49] <JessicaW> but, I also like pink desktops and modifying unity to be pink is hard.
[17:49] <xisorshadow> Zopiac, what are some other good desktops? nothing stupidly basic
[17:50] <Zopiac> well, for a time I LOVED compiz fusion. I haven't touched it in like 4 years
[17:50] <JessicaW> xisorshadow: gnome, XFCE, KDE
[17:50] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: The ones I can think of that are similar in format to gnome are KDE, LXDE, XFCE, IceWM
[17:50] <xisorshadow> kde is like the bloated inbred 3rd cousin of the windows UI, its terrible IMO i tried that first lol
[17:50] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: check the logs. grep the dmesg for you drive's name or just run dmesg right after plugging in the drive
[17:50] <Khisanth> use a pixel shader to turn everything pink ...
[17:50] <JessicaW> hahah
[17:50] <sacarlson> JessicaW: I guess you mean like chown?  you can use the system command as an option
[17:51] <Zopiac> I like KDE as well ヽ(´ー｀)ノ
[17:51] <john_rambo> Youtube videos shows a blueish tint
[17:51] <oCean> xisorshadow, JessicaW, Zopiac  please keep the chit-chat in #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[17:51] <JessicaW> sacarlson: more like chmod. it's chmod 2755.
[17:51] <zykotick9> john_rambo: fullscreen, then disable hardware acceleration in flash
[17:51] <quidnunc> Penguincsc: Already did that "HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed" is the only relevant error message
[17:51] <Zopiac> oCean: We are discussing Desktop Environments, it's not random chat...
[17:51] <JessicaW> +1
[17:51] <xisorshadow> Zopiac, how do i switch to xfce once it finishes installing?
[17:51] <oCean> Zopiac: "i like, I dislike" are not support discussions
[17:52] <Zopiac> Sorry for writing two lines not pertinant to chat. Just giving suggestions for xisorshadow to choose a workable environment to use for Ubuntu
[17:52] <Khisanth> JessicaW: so why do you need perl at all for setting permissions?
[17:52] <JessicaW> xisorshadow: you would sudo apt-get remove ubuntu desktop. reboot and apt-get install "whichever desktop you choose"
[17:52] <sacarlson> JessicaW: http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/chmod.html
[17:52] <xisorshadow> JessicaW, i have to uninstall this desktop to try another one?
[17:53] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: I believe if you log out, you have a bar on the bottom from which you can select another environment
[17:53] <h00k> AcidRain2012: please keep conversations constructive. You're free to have the opinions on Unity, but keep the conversation in here support related, thanks
[17:53] <Zopiac> but it's been a long time since I've used ubuntu, so I MAY be wrong by now
[17:53] <JessicaW> Khisanth: I don't. The perl script by default sets the uid/gid. I don't like it but I can't change it. It's way to complicated for me. It's for analyzing DNA.
[17:53] <xisorshadow> Zopiac, what do you use then?
[17:53] <rebe> how do Ichange tabsize in whole ubuntu ?
[17:54] <JessicaW> xisorshadow: I'm sure there's a way to choose which desktop gui you log into but I'm not sure how to do it. I don't use desktop that often.
[17:54] <Zopiac> xisorshadow: Arch Linux with a tiling window manager. A bit more in-depth and advanced than Ubuntu. I wouldn't recommend it on your second day of using linux, lol
[17:54] <Khisanth> JessicaW: or why can't it be run with sudo instead?
[17:54] <john_rambo> zykotick9: Thanks
[17:54] <Zopiac> I'd try to get a virtual machine running Ubuntu myself but I have almost no hard disk space
[17:54] <xisorshadow> Zopiac, i have no idea what a tiling window manager is, so you are probably right... oh hey its done downloading my xfce!
[17:54] <JessicaW> Khisanth: that means giving sudo permissions to a department of 50 bioinformatic engineers. They're too smart to be safe with sudo privs.
[17:54] <Khisanth> xisorshadow: there should be a button/dropdown on the login screen for selecting the desktop
[17:55] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: what's the filesystem on the drive?
[17:55] <lemarc> the apache2 folder was missing from etc folder so i used the command 'apt-get install --reinstall apache2.2-common' and i got the apache2 and its subfolders but the files apache2.conf, ports.conf are missing, also all the subfolders of apache2 are empty
[17:55] <Khisanth> JessicaW: you can configure sudo to only allow specific commands
[17:55] <JessicaW> Khisanth: hmmm. I didn't even think of that.
[17:55] <quidnunc> Penguincsc: 4 partitions, ext3 and FAT
[17:56] <JessicaW> Khisanth: seems more like a hack though than actually fixing the problem doesn't it?
[17:56] <Penguincsc> JessicaW: sudo will let you give certain right to certain command to certain users... ;-)
[17:56] <JessicaW> If I can get perl mod suid installed it won't be an issue.
[17:56] <somewhat> Hey, I'm having a little trouble with 12.04, and I'm hoping I can ask some questions
[17:57] <Cerrdor> le huh?
[17:57] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: did this happen after unplugging it from a windows machine without using the "Safe Remove"?
[17:57] <Khisanth> JessicaW: I would like to point to the fact that suidperl is dropped starting from 5.12.0, it might stay as an ubuntu package but it doesn't exactly have the brightest future
[17:57] <xisorshadow> !ask | somewhat
[17:57] <xisorshadow> yay i did it right
[17:57] <Khisanth> JessicaW: doing this now also means you won't have to deal with it in future upgrades
[17:57] <sacarlson> lemarc: maybe better to reinstall all of appache not just common
[17:57] <quidnunc> Penguincsc: No
[17:58] <applebloom> oin #/ponyfuckers/
[17:59] <somewhat> Great...   - My HP Compaq nc4200 running 12.04 is hanging.  It is happening very frequently (90% of the time after startup) and it always seems to hang after about five minutes - wether or not I log in.  Help?
[17:59] <JessicaW> Khisanth: ahhh. lovely. well, the problem is I have two groups that need to use the same script. The first group is only supposed to be able to write to one folder. If I give sudo access to that script, won't they be able to output to any folder?
[17:59] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: what version of Ubuntu are you running and did you keep it up to date?
[17:59] <lemarc> sararlson: i completely removed apache2 and then reinstalled it, this dint help
[18:00] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: run sudo apt-get update
[18:00] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: run sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:00] <JessicaW> Khisanth: and I apologize for using gui speak. I meant directory not folder.
[18:00] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:00] <sacarlson> lemarc: what version of ubuntu and what version of appache,  it normaly installs with little effort unless you tried to compile something first
[18:00] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: it might be a kernel issue
[18:01] <quidnunc> Penguincsc: precise, updated this mornign
[18:01] <quidnunc> morning8
[18:01] <quidnunc> morning*
[18:01] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: did you run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade too?
[18:01] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: can you fdisk the drive?
[18:01] <snake__> I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 32bit and I was wondering how to use the nouveau driver for my nvidia card instead of the proprietary ones because they make my screen blurry while the open source ones are nice and smooth. :)
[18:02] <Khisanth> JessicaW: when you say group do you mean actual groups as in /etc/group entries or just the regular English word? :)
[18:02] <quidnunc> Penguincsc: dist-upgrade: yes
[18:02] <lemarc> sacarlson: ubuntu 11.10 and apache-2.2.2, i dint installed it from the source code, i installed it from the distros from terminal
[18:03] <quidnunc> Penguincsc: I can fdisk and print partition table
[18:03] <quidnunc> Penguincsc: My repo mirror's may not be updated if this is a known issue that happened within the last day
[18:03] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: try running fsck.ext3 on the partitions
[18:04] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: change to the Main Server in the sources
[18:04] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: then run the whole upgrade bit again
[18:05] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: I had the same issue. Sources not up to date on my local server
[18:05] <sacarlson> lemarc: did you try a apt-get purge appache2  before reinstall?  I'm bringing up a copy of 11.10 to see if I can duplicate
[18:06] <quidnunc> Penguincsc: Alright, I have to step out for 15 minutes. I will do it when I come back. Thanks
[18:06] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: I just ran un upgrade now and got a kernel update too
[18:06] <Penguincsc> quidnunc: Good luck
[18:06] <lemarc> sacarlson: i will try purge, wait
[18:07] <sacarlson> lemarc: also you sure it didn't install maybe try http://localhost  in a browser to be sure it didn't install
[18:07] <[snake]> Um, my question was the snake__ one, I reconnected as my registered nick so it's not linked to me anymore.
[18:08] <CalvinnHobbes> I have a strange question, does anyone know of a program that can format a bash session into pretty text. What im trying to do: copy my bash commands and their corresponding output to a spreadsheet so that it can be followed by someone else. Primarily I want to format the command in one color and the output in another, the actual prompt is less important
[18:08] <[snake]> I'll just repost if it's no big deal: I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 32bit and I was wondering how to use the nouveau driver for my nvidia card instead of the proprietary ones because they make my screen blurry while the open source ones are nice and smooth. :)
[18:08]  * ir1spardalis is away: Gone away for now
[18:09] <zykotick9> !away > ir1spardalis
[18:09] <[snake]> CalvinnHobbes, Do you mean like the color prompt? them you would need to output into a database maybe.
[18:09] <lemarc> sacarlson: tried purge and reinstalled, tried opening localhost, its not opening. Also tried restarting apache2, got reply '51: Can't open /etc/apache2/envvars
[18:09] <CalvinnHobbes> yeah similar to a color prompt
[18:10] <CalvinnHobbes> except if you try and copy from a session to a spreadsheet or just a text file, the formattign is lost
[18:10] <[snake]> I know I activated mine by uncommenting the line in ~/.bashrc for force_color_prompt
[18:10] <CalvinnHobbes> I assume that when people are writing tutorials or the like that this problem has to have been run into before
[18:10] <[snake]> oh the problem is the copying. hm... idk
[18:11] <sacarlson> lemarc: maybe reboot?
[18:11] <lemarc> ok i will try that
[18:11] <[snake]> Come to think of it I could probably google my question.
[18:11] <thomasd> hello wen ever my computer boots. grub runs in a video mode not supported by my computer does anyone know how to fix this
[18:12] <thomasd> also my terminals are running in an unsupported video mode aswell
[18:14] <thomasd> hello wen ever my computer boots. grub runs in a video mode not supported by my monoter. also none of my terminals are accessable can anyone help me with this issue?
[18:15] <abckb__> thomasd: what video card are you using?
[18:15] <Penguincsc> thomas: you can edit the /etc/default/grub file to set the resolution
[18:15] <thomasd> abckb__: not a clue it's one by nvidia that's all i know
[18:15] <abckb__> thomasd: ok
[18:15] <Penguincsc> thomas: do you know how to?
[18:16] <ThomasBoxley> Penguincsc: please autocomplete the name completely, with the d at the end. I keep getting highlighted :p
[18:16] <zdennis> On Ubuntu 12.04, ImageMagick 6.6.9 is available, but I'd like to install ImageMagick 6.7. Is there a repository that I can add to find a newer version of ImageMagick?
[18:16] <Penguincsc> thomasd:  you can edit the /etc/default/grub file to set the resolution
[18:16] <thomasd> Panguincsc: yes i do but i'm paranoied that i'm going to break something
[18:16] <lemarc> sacarlson: reboot dint help, someone could probably give me the copy of etc/apache2 from their ubuntu 11.10, that might help
[18:16] <Penguincsc> ThomasBoxley: sorry, just realised I got it wrong...
[18:17] <Penguincsc> thomasd:  what's the supported resolution?
[18:18] <sacarlson> lemarc: I only have a copy running in virtualbox that seems to be running very slow for me
[18:18] <thomasd> 1024x768
[18:18] <Penguincsc> thomasd: I don't think it will break something
[18:18] <Penguincsc> thomasd: it's a standard resolution
[18:19] <thomasd> Penguincsc it is currently supposed to be set up to duel boot with windows. will reconfigureing it screw that up?
[18:19] <W0rmDrink> hi
[18:19] <W0rmDrink> for ubuntu
[18:19] <Penguincsc> thomasd: edit the file, run update-grub and reboot
[18:19] <lemarc> someone with ubuntu 11.10 and apache2 installed, plz provide me with the copy of the apache2 folder from /etc folder, that would be a big help, thanks
[18:19] <W0rmDrink> I want to setup wlan0 with static ip
[18:19] <W0rmDrink> where is docs for that
[18:19] <Penguincsc> thomasd: no
[18:19] <W0rmDrink> for /etc/network/interfaces that is
[18:20] <Penguincsc> thomasd: just edit the line that starts with GRUB_GFXMODE=
[18:20] <decci> I would like to recover a file from a remote computer from an organization.
[18:20] <thomasd> Penguincsc that line is currently commented out
[18:21] <Penguincsc> thomasd: make sure to read the comment above the variable and uncomment it if it's commented
[18:21] <sacarlson> lemarc: you have any ppa repositories added?
[18:21] <zykotick9> W0rmDrink: good luck.  this might be a decent starting point (untested by me) http://nixcraft.com/ubuntu-debian/13278-etc-network-interfaces-wireless-wifi-example.html
[18:21] <Penguincsc> thomasd: it will not affect windows, just the boot screen
[18:21] <thomasd> ok i'm giving it a shot brb
[18:22] <lemarc> sacarlson: sorry, I don't know what does hat mean.
[18:22] <sukesh> i have a 4MB broadbacn connection but i get only 2MB when tested on speedtest.net Can someone help reg this?
[18:22] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: why not use the network manager GUI?
[18:22] <W0rmDrink> Penguincsc, its on a headless system
[18:22] <W0rmDrink> nvm I found it kinda
[18:22] <sacarlson> lemarc: if you don't know then you probly don't have any
[18:22] <W0rmDrink> but now not sure how to add the routes
[18:23] <lemarc> sacarlson: most probably thats the case
[18:24] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: you said it - it's under /etc/network/interfaces
[18:24] <W0rmDrink> Penguincsc, but for adding routes ? dont see anything in the manpage on routes
[18:24] <W0rmDrink> could do it via script I guess
[18:25] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: you add routes to the ufw firewall, I think
[18:26] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: if you want them to be permanent
[18:26] <W0rmDrink> wait
[18:26] <yggdrasil> hello, can somone help me.I was mucking around with my xorg.conf and i have lost my unity interface. all i have is blank desktop . i can right click and create files but thats about it?
[18:27] <W0rmDrink> I have added to /etc/network/interfaces - but now I'm not sure how to apply it
[18:27] <jost> yggdrasil, did you make a backup of your xorg.conf?
[18:27] <yggdrasil> i have manged to get t erminal windowos up.
[18:27] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: are you connected remotely?
[18:27] <yggdrasil> jost, i didnt, but there wasnt much in there. its a problem with unitu.
[18:27] <yggdrasil> inity.
[18:27] <W0rmDrink> Penguincsc, yes
[18:27] <yggdrasil> uhm unity.
[18:28] <vexaxv> does anyone know anything about the new chromebooks?
[18:28] <yggdrasil> jost: i can log into kde environment just fine.
[18:28] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: you have to bring the interface down and up again
[18:28] <W0rmDrink> with ifconfig ?
[18:28] <yggdrasil> im just wondering if thers a cmd to launch unity.
[18:28] <abckb__> vexaxv: nope
[18:28] <yggdrasil> whoa, typing unity freaked it out pretty good.
[18:28] <yggdrasil> hmm isee.
[18:28] <sircharlo> hey guys I have a question about apache and kerberos
[18:28] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: if it's for wifi, it won't discobbect you
[18:29] <stueng> without a DE installed and only lightdm, how would I make a user auto login ?
[18:29] <W0rmDrink> Penguincsc, sure - but i just did - and no effect
[18:29] <decci> We are in the process of developing a database driven web app that we expect high traffic and the server should be able to handle the large traffic. The server should also sustain with hundreds of thousands of databases rows and thousands of photos, video clips uploaded to the app. The app will also have some animation. We are currently evaluating Amazon EC2 platform to host the app, but we are open to your suggestion
[18:29] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: disconnect
[18:29] <decci> You suggest a server that is small enough to start but large enough to handle high traffic  2) Installing & configuring LAMP stack  3) Backup solutions and scaling strategies and how you will handle  4) Suggestion on moving uploaded images to S3 or other CDN services to deliver it fast   5) Suggestion on alternative solutions like Rackspace
[18:29] <arooni-mobile> is disk utility accurate?  it says i have 52 "pending sectors"  (0 reallocated sectors)  but when i ran badblocks (:  sudo badblocks -b 512 /dev/sda -v ... got Pass completed, 0 bad blocks found. (0/0/0 errors)).... what i'm concerned about is ive seen 52 pending sectors in less than a week (its a brand new drive)
[18:29] <yggdrasil> ahh haha, i got it.. unit --reset
[18:30] <yggdrasil> or something like that.
[18:30] <W0rmDrink> Penguincsc, I did ifconfig wlan0 down and then ifconfig wlan0 up
[18:30] <yggdrasil> sweet!! i fixed somethign on my own!
[18:30] <sircharlo> GSS-API major_status:000d0000, minor_status:000186a4
[18:30] <sircharlo> what does this mean O.o
[18:31] <ironhalik> can I use system flash player in Chrome?
[18:31] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: try ifdown wlan0
[18:31] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: what's the syntax you used?
[18:31] <W0rmDrink> ifconfig wlan0 up and ifconfig wlan0 down
[18:32] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: for the route in interfaces
[18:32] <W0rmDrink> ah
[18:32] <W0rmDrink> nvm
[18:32] <W0rmDrink> ifup
[18:32] <W0rmDrink> I would assume then
[18:32] <FloodBot1> W0rmDrink: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:32] <rrva_> how does sound get played when through hdmi.. how is the gfx card involved in the sound part
[18:33] <stueng> rrva: what device is giving you the HDMI connection?
[18:33] <Penguincsc> rrva_:  HDMI transfers both sound and video
[18:34] <stueng> it can transfer ethernet too xD
[18:34] <angs> how can I get essid of my wifi router?
[18:34] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: ?
[18:34] <stueng> angs: the essid is the name of your network
[18:34] <stueng> without a DE installed and only lightdm, how would I make a user auto login ?
[18:34] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: just give me the command you used, not the route
[18:34] <angs> thanks stueng
[18:34] <rrva_> Penguincsc: yes. but the sound card is not at all involved in hdmi audio?
[18:35] <W0rmDrink> Penguincsc, ifconfig wlan0 up and ifconfig wlan0 down is not a route - thats command I used - I now used ifdown wlan0 and ifup wlan0
[18:35] <stueng> rrva_: what device gives you the HDMU connection?
[18:35] <rrva_> stueng: gfx card
[18:35] <stueng> rrva_: and no, the sound card is not involved
[18:35] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: you said you added a route to the interfaces file for wlan0
[18:35] <stueng> rrva: then, the gfx card looks after the sound and sends it over HDMI
[18:35] <rrva_> stueng: ok. I have crackling sound only on hdmi audio
[18:36] <W0rmDrink> Penguincsc, no, I asked how to
[18:36] <rrva_> stueng: how to debug
[18:36] <Penguincsc> rrva_: if a video card has HDMI it has an audio interface
[18:36] <adel_> hi all, I need to localize and remove from my pc, all software packages that are not ubuntu certified, how should i proceed ?
[18:36] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: aahh. OK
[18:37] <stueng> rrva: I dunno tbh, but id try another cable if you have one. try disable things like DTS / dolby digital from the application that is makingg the sound
[18:37] <rrva_> stueng: I have no second cable
[18:37] <rrva_> stueng: is hdmi audio digital or analog?
[18:37] <rebe> how do I change tab size globaly in ubuntu ?
[18:37] <stueng> digital ofc
[18:38] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: checking
[18:39] <sacarlson> lemarc: I just installed apache2 2.2.20-1 with no problems on ubuntu 11.10,  http://localhost came up ok on a fresh installed box
[18:39] <stueng> without a DE installed and only lightdm, how would I make a user auto login ?
[18:39] <lemarc> sacarlson: can you provide the copy of apache2 folder?
[18:39] <sacarlson> lemarc: I used the thailand standard repository
[18:39] <stueng> nm done it
[18:40] <lemarc> sacarlson: the repositories are working fine, its something this the ubuntu, so i hope replacing the folder would help
[18:44] <roasted> Probably a dumb question... but let's say I have two debs here... one for the actual program, and one listed program-data. Which am I to install first? Data, then app?
[18:44] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: try this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-add-permanent-static-routes-in-ubuntu.html
[18:45] <Jordan_U> roasted: Pass them both to dpkg at the same time. "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/first.deb /path/to/second.deb".
[18:46] <roasted> Jordan_U: I did... well sort of... I did dpkg -i gimp*... both packages start with gimp-xyz-abc-etc so I figured that would work, but it returned with errors... I assumed I had to do one specifically first, THEN another
[18:46] <Felix713> Hi, I am experiencing latency (0.5 second freezes) whilst playing KBreakout on Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome 3 desktop on a quad core system with 4GB RAM.  I tried to run latencytop but it doesn't work. Troubleshooting suggestions would be appreciated. Thx
[18:46] <Jordan_U> roasted: And if the package was mad properly it would work in any order you chose (though if you use separate dpkg commands the first might complain, the second would still work fine).
[18:47] <Jordan_U> roasted: You're probably missing other needed dependancies. "sudo apt-get -f install".
[18:48] <trism> roasted: are you installing gimp2.8?
[18:48] <roasted> trism: yes, sort of
[18:49] <trism> roasted: if this is < 12.10, you will need and updated version of babl and gegl too
[18:49] <roasted> trism: since 2.8 isn't in the repos, and we don't want PPAs to manage, I got the .deb's for 2.8 so I'm trying to figure out how to install them manually sow e can later automate it
[18:49] <trism> roasted: yes that is fine, you'll just need those too
[18:49] <roasted> trism: I suppose the .deb's wouldn't take care of that?
[18:50] <ironhalik> can I use system flash player in Chrome?
[18:51] <Jordan_U> roasted: Managing PPAs is generally a lot simpler than trying to manage the dependancies yourself.
[18:51] <googlesuckshardl> abcdefghijklmpcd ;mftgd
[18:51] <googlesuckshardl> cgf,dfdxf
[18:51] <googlesuckshardl> '. g
[18:51] <googlesuckshardl> ';lsdgf
[18:51] <googlesuckshardl> agdllg;ksd
[18:51] <FloodBot1> googlesuckshardl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <googlesuckshardl> adh
[18:51] <googlesuckshardl> jdf
[18:51] <trism> roasted: the newer versions are not in the repo (until 12.10), so you'd need to find them, think you'll just need libbabl-0.1-0 and libgegl-0.2-0
[18:51] <famille> Hello, my pc cant boot, error is "Starting Timydity ALSA midi [FAIL]"
[18:51] <roasted> Jordan_U: for 1 system, yes. for 2,000... I'd rather not deal with it.
[18:51] <famille> (I SPEAK SPANISH)
[18:51] <roasted> Jordan_U: just be easier to have them in deb form and install them accordingly
[18:52] <sgtcupcake> hi everyone!
[18:52] <roasted> trism: appreciate it - looking into those packages now!
[18:52] <famille> everyone can help me?
[18:52] <Penguincsc> famille: what do you need?
[18:52] <sgtcupcake> I've lost my password and can no longer run any commands at the terminal. Can someone help me recover it?
[18:53] <famille> my pc cant boot
[18:53] <t432> Issues with tomcat6, was fine on initially  after a reinstall now it wont start ..any ideas?
[18:53] <famille> pc frozen on "Starting Timydity ALSA midi [FAIL]"
[18:53] <Penguincsc> famille: you have to be more specific
[18:53] <t432> /etc/init.d/tomcat6 fails
[18:53] <rocket16> Hello guys. Can anyone tell me the name of any GUI interface to avconv? Winff only works with ffmpeg. :(
[18:53] <Penguincsc> famille: describe what you did
[18:53] <famille> pc frozen on "Starting Timydity ALSA midi [FAIL]" (sorry my english i speak spanish)
[18:53] <famille> on boot
[18:54] <famille> or on "Starting Timydity ALSA midi ...."
[18:54] <famille> Starting Timydity ALSA midi emulation*
[18:54] <Penguincsc> famille: is this a pc or a laptop?
[18:54] <famille> pc
[18:55] <t432> anyone?
[18:55] <t432> search gives me nothing
[18:55] <Penguincsc> famille: do you know how to enter the BIOS?
[18:55] <sgtcupcake> Is there a way to see my password by running a command within the terminal window?
[18:55] <i2out3r> Hi fellas, I'm having a problem play .avi files in 12.04 -- I've installed ubuntu-restricted-extras, kind of stuck.
[18:55] <famille> f1 esc or supr during boot?
[18:56] <Penguincsc> t432: look at the logs
[18:56] <sacarlson> lemarc: the folder is part of the apache-common.deb file so if you have that you have the folder,  I did uninstall with purge and found dependancy problems, but works if you install apache-mpm-event first then apache2
[18:56] <W0rmDrink> Penguincsc, thanks for the help
[18:56] <Jordan_U> i2out3r: What happens when you try to play the file in Totem?
[18:56] <Penguincsc> famille: try to disable the on-board sound card
[18:57] <Penguincsc> W0rmDrink: did that help?
[18:57] <t432> Penguincsc: where are the logs? no logs in /usr/share/tomcat6/
[18:57] <W0rmDrink> Penguincsc, sure it will when the carrier comes up ;)
[18:57] <Cerrdor> are the install commands the same on debian squeeze as on Ubuntu "apt-get....."?
[18:57] <famille> Penguincsc: ok, "solve the problem before upgrading from 11.10 to 11.10, but now in version 12.04 I can not do" (google translate)
[18:57] <sacarlson> lemarc: I uninstalled every package that was part of apache to try to duplicate
[18:57] <W0rmDrink> Is there a way to pass command line args to wpa_supplicant from /etc/network/interfaces ?
[18:57] <Penguincsc> t432: no - at /var/log/tomcat6  maybe?
[18:57] <famille> but i try with BIOS, thx
[18:57] <W0rmDrink> cos I want wpa_supplicant to log (-f) but cant seem to find a way to tell it to log
[18:58] <i2out3r> Jordan_U: It 'plays' with no sound, the screen flickers where I see the picture for a split second every 6 seconds or so.
[18:58] <lemarc> sacarlson: how to install apache-mpm-event
[18:58] <sacarlson> lemarc: look for it in synaptic
[18:58] <lemarc> ok
[18:58] <t432> found that problem "java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina
[18:58] <t432> "
[18:59] <Penguincsc> t432: in the logs?
[18:59] <t432> yes
[18:59] <Penguincsc> t432: ?
[18:59] <t432> The logs has a message "java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina
[18:59] <Penguincsc> t432: :-)
[18:59] <t432> "
[19:00] <ironhalik> Is there a way to get chromium dev channel builds in ubuntu? the ppa seems to be not maintained anymore.
[19:00] <t432> that could be the problem
[19:00] <jeshwanth>  I am getting this error while executed configure for  apr-utils
[19:00] <jeshwanth>  checking for APR... configure: error: --with-apr requires a directory or file to be provided
[19:01] <sgtcupcake> Hey can anyone give me a command that will allow me to see my password within the terminal window? Does such a command exist?
[19:01] <jeshwanth> please help
[19:01] <i2out3r> Jordan_U: Just to add, other media plays fine, like youtube, last.fm etc
[19:01] <Penguincsc> t432: http://tomcat.10.n6.nabble.com/Windows-Migration-5-5-23-to-6-0-18-java-lang-ClassNotFoundException-org-apache-catalina-startup-Cataa-td2081998.html
[19:01] <TomSlominski> Hi. You know alt+click on reblog on Tumblr? It doesn't work in Linux :(
[19:01] <hdy> -lug
[19:02] <Felix713> @sgtcupcake: no such command exists
[19:02] <Penguincsc> sgtcupcake: no such command
[19:02] <i2out3r> sgtcupcake: your keystrokes dont echo to the terminal as a security measure
[19:03] <sgtcupcake> penguincsc: how to I recover my password? I've lost it and cant run any sudo commands
[19:03] <Penguincsc> sgtcupcake: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/user-forgottenpassword.html
[19:03] <Felix713> @sgtcupcake: reboot in recovery mode and change passwd?
[19:03] <t432> nothing to do with windows
[19:03] <sgtcupcake> Penguincsc: Thanks! :D
[19:04] <sgtcupcake> Felix713: do i need to know my existing password?
[19:04] <i2out3r> so guys, can anyone help me with a problem playing avi files
[19:04] <i2out3r> sgtcupcake: nope, if you boot into single user mode you are root
[19:04] <Felix713> @sgtcupcake: can't remeber (probably) try the link fro Penguincsc
[19:05] <stueng> how do I get the GID or a group? I looked in /etc/passwd I dont see the group there
[19:05] <sgtcupcake> i2out3r: ok. thanks!
[19:05] <geirha> stueng: getent group groupname
[19:05] <stueng> thanks
[19:05] <Penguincsc> stueng: try looking at /etc/groups
[19:06] <loco> shello
[19:06] <Felix713> @sgtcupcake: actually I think you may not need to know the current root password to change it
[19:06] <i2out3r> c'mon guys, pretty please hlep me
[19:06] <drecute> any chance that we will have a 11.10 release for libpam-unix2
[19:07] <sgtcupcake> felix713: you cant change it from the system settings menu without knowing your existing password
[19:07] <Jordan_U> i2out3r: Please file a bug report against Totem (it's probably a bug in the particular gstreamer decoder, but the developers can sort that out and forward it properly). Have you tried VLC?
[19:08] <i2out3r> Jordan_U: VLC doesnt play the file at all
[19:08] <Jordan_U> i2out3r: What error message does it give?
[19:08] <sgtcupcake> Ok im going to try it! Thanks a million and God bless you all!
[19:08] <stueng> how do I make a permanent change to resolv.conf so it doesnt get wiped on reboot?
[19:08] <i2out3r> Jordan_U: File reading failed:
[19:08] <i2out3r> VLC could not read the file (Operation not supported).
[19:09] <fasta> How do I install smlnj for Precise?
[19:09] <stueng> i2out3r: how big is the file?
[19:09] <i2out3r> 10.5MB
[19:09] <fasta> It seems it's only available for Quantal.
[19:09] <i2out3r> stueng: 10.5MB
[19:10] <i2out3r> maybe i could send on of you guys it, see if you guys can play it?
[19:10] <Felix713> I am experiencing latency (0.5 second freezes) whilst playing KBreakout on Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome 3 desktop on a quad core system with 4GB RAM.  I tried to run latencytop but it doesn't work. Troubleshooting suggestions would be appreciated. Thx
[19:10] <stueng> i2out3r: is that what you would expect it to be? that sound right? file not corrupt.. try play it with mplayer
[19:10] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: run the file command on the avi and tell us what it says
[19:10] <i2out3r> yeah, the file is only a short intro to a course
[19:10] <i2out3r> ok Penguincsc
[19:11] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: (totem:12710): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: Read/writable property 'object' on class 'ZeitgeistDpPlugin' has type 'TotemObject' which is not exactly equal to the type 'GObject' of the property on the interface 'PeasActivatable'
[19:12] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: did it ever play?
[19:12] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: Lesson14.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 800 x 600, ~15 fps, video:, audio: uncompressed PCM (mono, 22050 Hz)
[19:12] <brian__> Hello room, can someone point me in the direction of a Grub editor with a GUI?
[19:12] <fasta> What is the meaning of 'add information request'?
[19:13] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: It plays, but no sound and the picture is black, but flickers on every few seconds
[19:13] <cakehero> anyone know how I would unmount a software raid drive and mount it on another machine?
[19:13] <fasta> What kind of information request?
[19:13] <JessicaW> installing precise and installer doesn't detect internet connection. If I load live cd, finds internet fine. Suggestions?
[19:13] <fasta> (I am talking about Launchpad)
[19:13] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: when was the last time you rebooted your machine?
[19:14] <i2out3r> Hmmm, about 4 days ago
[19:14] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: ^^
[19:14] <fasta> JessicaW: type ping 8.8.8.8 in a terminal
[19:14] <JessicaW> cakehero: it's a little complicated. but yes. You have to make sure mdadm is installed on the machine your moving it to. you need to have the UUID.
[19:14] <fasta> JessicaW: also type ping <ip address of your router>
[19:14] <i2out3r> I'll reboot now Penguincsc and see if that helps.  back in a few mins guys
[19:14] <fasta> JessicaW: report both replies.
[19:14] <cakehero> JessicaW okay, the UUID I can get from mdadm --scan
[19:14] <JessicaW> fasta: can't load a terminal while the installer is running. if I boot to live cd I can ping out and resolve DNS just fine.
[19:14] <JessicaW> cakehero: yep
[19:15] <cakehero> JessicaW so what do I do from there?
[19:15] <fasta> JessicaW: I just installed from the graphical installer and then said 'install now' or something like that; by definition you should be able to complete an installation without internet access.
[19:16] <fasta> JessicaW: once installer is complete you can try to find ways to fix it, but it seems like an odd issue. What network chip are you using?
[19:16] <JessicaW> cakehero: unmount the array. stop the array. remove it from mdadm.
[19:16] <cakehero> JessicaW ok - done
[19:16] <cakehero> (the old machine is going away forever
[19:16] <Penguincsc> brian__:  try grub-customizer
[19:16] <cakehero> )
[19:16] <JessicaW> cakehero: one sec. I know there' s a tutorial on this.
[19:16] <cakehero> yeah i'm trying to find one, too
[19:16] <JessicaW> fasta: yeah, I just find it updates faster during the install than from the desktop.
[19:16] <fasta> JessicaW: so, I would suggest you just install without an internet connection and then you get a terminal to poke around with things.
[19:17] <fasta> JessicaW: also quite odd, but perhaps you are on underpowered hardware.
[19:17] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: No luck.  Still the same.
[19:17] <i2out3r> after reboot
[19:17] <fasta> JessicaW: so, can you complete the installation?
[19:18] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: did it ever play correctly?
[19:18] <JessicaW> fasta: uhhhh.... chip... uhhh... one sec... BCM5709
[19:18] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: did it ever play correctly
[19:18] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: it might be currupt
[19:19] <JessicaW> fasta: no way it's underpowered. 6 dell r610 on a ESX cluster. :D
[19:19] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: No, and I've downloaded it twice incase it was corrupted
[19:19] <JessicaW> fasta: and I never had this problem with 10 or 11. Let me try a 11 install real quick.
[19:19] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: can you play other avi files?
[19:19] <fasta> JessicaW: I would not waste time on installing 11.
[19:19] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: I haven't got any other avi files to try it out lol
[19:19] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: But all my other media works
[19:20] <JessicaW> fasta: meh. yeah. I'm just gonna install without the internet.
[19:20] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: all the other lessons are the same
[19:20] <fasta> JessicaW: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1850234
[19:20] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: is this 12.04?
[19:20] <stueng> I cant remember how much RAM the machine I am SSH onto has, what command? :P
[19:21] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: Yes, 12.04
[19:21] <axisys> I have this redhat init script http://paste.ubuntu.com/1013541/ .. need to convert it to ubuntu
[19:21] <stueng> i2out3r: do you have dropbox or something, upload the file?
[19:21] <axisys> what do I replace this with?
[19:21] <axisys> . /etc/init.d/functions
[19:21] <Penguincsc> stueng: lshw --hort
[19:21] <DarezGhost> guys, I'm having a problem with dual monitors on my system. I can see both monitors active, but one of the screens only has the ubuntu background on it. I can't drag windows into the screen. If I do that, it wraps around and comes back onto the same first monitor
[19:21] <Penguincsc> stueng: lshw --short
[19:21] <DarezGhost> how do i fix this
[19:21] <i2out3r> steung: no, don't have mush experience uploading files, what site should I register - or can I send it directly over to one of you guys to investigate?
[19:22] <JessicaW> fasta: thanks. not relevant. can't be a faulty NIC. It's virtual. I just ran a quick startup of the 11.10 installer and it finds the network. Same virtual machine. How weird is that?
[19:22] <axisys> it might be more appropriate question for #ubuntu-server.. i will ask there
[19:22] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: send us the url you d/l it from
[19:22] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: I am guessing it's a public file?
[19:22] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: It was a torrent :-S
[19:22] <stueng> i2out3r: right click me, DCC, send file
[19:22] <i2out3r> steung: OK!
[19:23] <fasta> JessicaW: perhaps you didn't forward your Internet?
[19:23] <JessicaW> cakehero: found this for you. seems like it should work. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=850229
[19:23] <cakehero> k
[19:23] <cakehero> JessicaW yes - just read it
[19:23] <stueng> thanks Penguincsc
[19:23] <i2out3r> stueng: Ok, I sent it over
[19:23] <fasta> JessicaW: unless you created a completely new 11.10 VM.
[19:23] <stueng> i2out3r: that isnt going to work, itr tryin to connect to localhost
[19:23] <JessicaW> cakehero: ahhh. sorry it took so long. did you try it? I've never really had problems with moving them before.
[19:23] <stueng> i2out3r: www.dropbox.com
[19:23] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: have you installed all the codecs?
[19:24] <Penguincsc> stueng: welcome
[19:24] <cakehero> JessicaW I'm trying it now, I'm taking down some of the services I forgot about as well and grabbing their config files
[19:24] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: I *think* so, I've installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:24] <JessicaW> fasta: no, I have a vm with no OS installed. I connected 11.10 iso and started install. it finds internet. I cancel install. I connect the 12.04 iso and start install but it doesn't find the internet.
[19:25] <Felix713> i2out3r: you can email it to me at spamrubbish@gmail.com (it's 10MB right?)
[19:25] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: w32codecs?
[19:25] <enzopitek> hello everyone does anyone have a problem with svn on ubuntu 10.04 lts amd from the last week ?
[19:25] <fasta> JessicaW: ok, then I think it's bug time.
[19:25] <JessicaW> cakehero: when I moved my array from one box to another, I didn't even have mdadm installed. I installed it and started it and it found the arrays for me.
[19:25] <i2out3r> Felix713: Sure I'll email it to you
[19:25] <JessicaW> fasta: I love to hear that. :D
[19:25] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: I dont think so?  is there a nifty apt-get command for it?
[19:25] <fasta> JessicaW: perhaps you can do an expert install?
[19:26] <cakehero> JessicaW it looks like that might be the case
[19:26] <cakehero> based on these articles
[19:26] <fasta> JessicaW: sometimes you can load extra drivers, etc. or perhaps you can select another chip in the configuration of the VM.
[19:26] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: try this: http://www.thelinuxgeeks.info/how-to-install-medibuntu-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[19:26] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[19:26] <i2out3r> Ok Penguincsc I'll report back my findings
[19:26] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: I think it's on the repos
[19:27] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: good luck
[19:27] <arooni-mobile> is disk utility accurate?  it says i have 52 "pending sectors"  (0 reallocated sectors)  but when i ran badblocks (:  sudo badblocks -b 512 /dev/sda -v ... got Pass completed, 0 bad blocks found. (0/0/0 errors)).... what i'm concerned about is ive seen 52 pending sectors in less than a week (its a brand new drive)
[19:27] <JessicaW> fasta: yeah. I could. but... I've wasted enough time on this already. It's a blow up box for my interns to play with. It's not that big a deal.
[19:27] <JessicaW> cakehero: I found it surprisingly simple.
[19:27] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: unable to locate package
[19:28] <sgtcupcake> howdy :)
[19:28] <DarezGhost> guys, I'm having a problem with dual monitors on my system. I can see both monitors active, but one of the screens only has the ubuntu background on it. I can't drag windows into the screen. If I do that, it wraps around and comes back onto the same first monitor
[19:28] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: right, it's part of the Medibuntu PPA - follow the howto I sent you and it will add it to your repos
[19:28] <DarezGhost> i can move the mouse pointer to both the monitors
[19:29] <JessicaW> fasta: holy wtf... I just started the install again and it found the internet... I think we're having DNS issues. Stupid windows domain controller handles DNS....
[19:29] <DarezGhost> but when i click on the second monitor it actually performs the click on the first one instead
[19:29] <nkei0> what's up everyone!?  Just a real quick question about keyboard layouts...  How do I switch between US and UK keyboard layouts?  I selected US when installing, but it went ahead and chose UK for me?  I have 12.04 completely updated btw.
[19:29] <JessicaW> DarezGhost: is it mirrored by chance?
[19:29] <Penguincsc> DarezGhost: what's you video card
[19:29] <sgtcupcake> My b43 wireless card renders my machine unable to start because of missing firmware whenever i try to upgrade to version 12.04. Is there a fix?
[19:29] <fasta> JessicaW: it detects Linux installs and then refuses to run ;)
[19:29] <DarezGhost> Penguincsc: its actually virtualbox :P
[19:29] <JessicaW> fasta: lol
[19:29] <fasta> JessicaW: (interestingly enough, it could do that)
[19:29] <nkei0> sgtcupcake, Clean install?
[19:30] <DarezGhost> JessicaW: I'm using virtualbox, not sure if it is mirrored or not
[19:30] <i2out3r> Felix713: my mail provider only allows max of 2MB attachment size... > .<
[19:30] <cakehero> JessicaW okay good - I like simple
[19:30] <cakehero> JessicaW simple - like my mind
[19:30] <lemarc> sacarlson: it dint help :(
[19:30] <sgtcupcake> yes. I initially installed from live usb and it ran fine until i tried to upgrade
[19:30] <cakehero> I guess I can EC2 snapshot the two raid devices first just in case
[19:30] <Penguincsc> DarezGhost: it might be mirrored
[19:30] <OerHeks> sgtcupcake, use a cable
[19:30] <Felix713> @i2out3r: 2bad. Follow the Medibuntu instructions instead
[19:30] <JessicaW> DarezGhost: it's a setting under display. what version are you using?
[19:30] <Penguincsc> DarezGhost: have you installed the guest additions?
[19:31] <sgtcupcake> oerheks: from where to where?
[19:31] <DarezGhost> yes I installed the guest additions
[19:31] <Felix713> I am experiencing latency (0.5 second freezes) whilst playing KBreakout on Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome 3 desktop on a quad core system with 4GB RAM.  I tried to run latencytop but it doesn't work. Troubleshooting suggestions would be appreciated. Thx
[19:31] <i2out3r> Felix713: OK thanks.
[19:31] <DarezGhost> JessicaW: I'm using the latest version
[19:31] <JessicaW> DarezGhost: so 12.04 desktop version?
[19:31] <DarezGhost> yes
[19:31] <Shinobi> What's the easiest way to get perl talking to OO Base?
[19:31] <JessicaW> DarezGhost: click ubuntu icon and type display
[19:31] <OerHeks> sgtcupcake, you need a utp cable to fix wireless, anyway
[19:32] <DarezGhost> ooh i found it
[19:32] <DarezGhost> it works now
[19:32] <DarezGhost> XD
[19:32] <DarezGhost> but it is horribly slow
[19:32] <FloodBot1> DarezGhost: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:32] <DarezGhost> :S
[19:32] <sgtcupcake> oerheks: you probably think im a hopeless noob, but whats a utp cable and how would i go about using it to fix my issue?
[19:32] <JessicaW> DarezGhost: probably due to it being a VM.
[19:33] <JessicaW> DarezGhost: you can up the vid mem in your VB settings.
[19:33] <DarezGhost> yea trying that now
[19:33] <JessicaW> DarezGhost: cool.
[19:33] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: OK great installed w32codecs... here goes... wish me luck
[19:34] <DarezGhost> didn't do it :(
[19:34] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: good luck
[19:34] <lemarc> sacarlson: thanks anyway for all the help, will sleep now :)
[19:34] <sgtcupcake> i2out3r: good luck
[19:34] <Penguincsc> DarezGhost: try adding ram too
[19:34] <JessicaW> DarezGhost: +1 to Penguincsc
[19:34] <nkei0> hrm, brb, attempt to fix keyboard :(
[19:34] <DarezGhost> will enabling 2d acceleration work
[19:35] <JessicaW> DarezGhost: I can't answer that one. I've never used a VM with dual monitors before.
[19:35] <sgtcupcake> Can anyone tell me how to use a utp cable to give my computer the firmware it needs to boot with my b43 wireless card?
[19:35] <Penguincsc> DarezGhost: might help.
[19:35] <Penguincsc> DarezGhost: what's the vid card?
[19:35] <DarezGhost> nvidia
[19:36] <extern0> hello
[19:36] <Penguincsc> DarezGhost: how much ram on the vid card?
[19:36] <sgtcupcake> extern0: hi :)
[19:36] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: you trying to install your broadcom wireles drivers?
[19:36] <JessicaW> *wireless
[19:36] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: NEAR SUCCESS!! totem just does the same, but now VLC plays the video, but still no sound.
[19:36] <sgtcupcake> jessicaW: yes
[19:37] <OerHeks> !broadcom | sgtcupcake
[19:37] <DarezGhost> not sure
[19:37] <Felix713> @i2out3r: i have lots of probs with VLC on ubuntu - for the first minute there is no sound! try being patient :-)
[19:37] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: you using precise?
[19:37] <i2out3r> Felix713: Ah, ok.
[19:37] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: I know the code needed to install it on my current system, which runs version 11.10, but when I try to update to version 12.04 the system refuses to boot
[19:38] <DarezGhost> oh there
[19:38] <DarezGhost> i disabled 3d acceleration in the vm
[19:38] <DarezGhost> its better now
[19:38] <DarezGhost> no fancy effects but it will do
[19:38] <DarezGhost> xd
[19:38] <DarezGhost> thanks guys
[19:38] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: i get a line of text that tells me the machine is missing firware
[19:38] <FloodBot1> DarezGhost: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <airstrike> whoever suggested i use byobu, THANK YOU
[19:38] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: and it wont' boot at all?
[19:38] <airstrike> this shit's so much better than screen
[19:39] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: try this : sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:39] <pranjal710> hey, can i install ubuntu 12.04 64-bit on an intel pc??
[19:39] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: here's this. http://www.howopensource.com/tag/install-broadcom-wireless-driver-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[19:39] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: not once i install version 12.04. The computer turns on, but i never even get to the initial "ubuntu" splash screen
[19:39] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: also run the full upgrade procedure (apt-get update, upgrade and dist-upgrade)
[19:39] <Felix713> @pranjal710: Yes, absolutely
[19:39] <zykotick9> pranjal710: is the CPU 64 bit?  if so, yes.
[19:39] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: does it make it past grub?
[19:39] <airstrike> i never install 64-bit
[19:39] <pranjal710> thanks
[19:40] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: i dont believe so
[19:40] <Cerrdor> whats the command to find a package thats installed but I have no idea where?
[19:40] <airstrike> the times i tried brought me more headache than any benefits
[19:40] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: Ok, thanks for you help
[19:40] <airstrike> Cerrdor: which
[19:40] <Cerrdor> grep somethinghere?
[19:40] <Cerrdor> ircd-hybrid
[19:40] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: do you see this screen? http://static.howtoforge.com/images/grub2_ubuntu_9.04/big/9.png
[19:40] <airstrike> which ircd-hybrid
[19:40] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: or something like it.
[19:40] <zykotick9> Cerrdor: if you want to know what a package installed and where, "dpkg -L foo"
[19:40] <airstrike> assuming ircd-hybrid is not just the name of the package
[19:40] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: hold on a sec...
[19:41] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: i think my isp just blocked my from accessing the site
[19:42] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: try this one.
[19:42] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Submenus?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=g2_submenu.png
[19:43] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: here goes...
[19:43] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: that's the grub menu. do you see that after your bios menu?
[19:43] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: Ok, so in totem, the sound is playing form the start, but screen still black and video flickers on, on VLC, the video plays flawlessly, but no sound.. perhaps I just play 2 vids at the same time huh? lol
[19:44] <Super_Random> hello
[19:44] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: interesting
[19:44] <Super_Random> I am having problems getting this headset working properly
[19:44] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: yes it do, but whenever i try to proceed to normal boot, i get an error message. i can never pass this screen
[19:44] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: Should I try another reboot?
[19:44] <zykotick9> i2out3r: you might want to try the gold-standard of linux media playback - mplayer
[19:44] <heresjohnny> i2out3r: do you have the output set to an alsa hw device?
[19:44] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: ok. that's a step in the right direction. what error does it give you exactly?>
[19:44] <Felix713> @i2out3r: in VLC you can try changing Tools>Preferences>Audio>Output module
[19:44] <i2out3r> heresjohnny: the output is actually through HDMI samsung tv
[19:45] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: it tells me that im missing the firmware for broadcom b43 wireless card
[19:45] <i2out3r> Felix713: I'll give it a go
[19:45] <i2out3r> Felix713: For some reason the video AND sound is now working in VLC!!  SUCCESS!!!! Thanks guys!!!
[19:45] <Harris> how do i add unity quicklist to ubuntu 12.04
[19:45] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: what's the EXACT error message.
[19:46] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: try this: sudo apt-get --yes install app-install-data-medibuntu apport-hooks-medibuntu
[19:46] <i2out3r> must have been w32codecs that did the trick
[19:46] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: Already installed! But it's now working in VLC! :-)
[19:46] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: both audio and video?
[19:47] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: im afraid i dont remember exactly :(
[19:47] <Felix713> i2out3r: Good news :-)
[19:47] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: does it go past that error message and continue to boot?
[19:47] <i2out3r> Penguincsc: Yep, both audio and video are now working in VLC.  Thanks so much guys.
[19:47] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: im afraid thats not much help :(
[19:47] <Harris>  how do i add unity quicklist to ubuntu 12.04
[19:47] <i2out3r> Felix713: Thanks!
[19:47] <Penguincsc> i2out3r: cool!
[19:47] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: no. the machine idles until i force it to shut down
[19:48] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: does the error message go by too fast to read?
[19:48] <Penguincsc> Harris: try installing Ubuntu Twek
[19:48] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: no. it remains on the screen
[19:48] <Harris> Penguincsc, what is the terminal code
[19:48] <Penguincsc> Harris: Tweak - that is the easiest
[19:49] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: sooo, is the problem on the computer your using or a different computer? can you reboot and get the error message? can't really do anything without that.
[19:49] <JessicaW> anyone remember the command to get ubuntu to confirm each step of the boot process?
[19:49] <JessicaW> *to get ubuntu to have the user confirm each step
[19:50] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: im afraid its with this machine :( I had to go back to version 11.10 :(
[19:50] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: thanks for your time! :D
[19:50] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: ahhh. ok. sorry. well, I would try to reboot into 12. write down the error message or take a pic with your phone.
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> JessicaW, each process?
[19:50] <beandog> JessicaW: I ?
[19:51] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: then boot back to 11 and let us know what it is.
[19:51] <JessicaW> yeah, so it asks you if you want to start "processname" y/n
[19:51] <sgtcupcake> jessicaw: roger that! thanks again!  Ill try that ASAP!
[19:51] <beandog> interactive boot
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> JessicaW, if it is a boot problem have them run the bootscript
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> !bootinfo
[19:52] <JessicaW> wilee-nilee: oooo. that's good info. that's what they need
[19:52] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: did you catch that? what the ubottu just said?
[19:52] <augustl> hi folks. When I choose a sound card in the system settings, nothing happen. When I manually try to modprobe, I get "ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is already in use". What should I do to fix it? I closed all apps that use sound.
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> JessicaW, yeah I just glanced at the channel I have been busy. :)
[19:53] <Penguincsc> Harris: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/12/install-ubuntu-tweak-06-on-ubuntu-1204.html
[19:53] <JessicaW> beandog: yeah! that!
[19:53] <JessicaW> sgtcupcake: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at)
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> I like the nic that is funny
[19:53] <JessicaW> wilee-nilee: I'm barely intermediate at all this but I get so much help here I try to help when I can.
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> JessicaW, we all are, lol keep helping. ;)
[19:54] <Cerrdor> Im on a debian server but I cant dig @anything theres no dig, how do I install that?
[19:54] <CT1> Hi. I have U/N, P/W, IP, Gateway and DNS details for connecting to a VPN. Within windows running in Virtualbox I can connect and browse the web through the VPN. I can connect with ubuntu but can't browse. Any ideas?
[19:54] <Cerrdor> dig, host, nslookup etc
[19:54] <JessicaW> Cerrdor: #debian
[19:54] <Felix713> I am experiencing latency (0.5 second freezes) whilst playing KBreakout on Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome 3 desktop on a quad core system with 4GB RAM.  I tried to run latencytop but it doesn't work. Troubleshooting suggestions would be appreciated. Thx
[19:55] <mhough_> my university blocks 6667. Is there some other way I can reach oftc?
[19:55] <Guest78165> Is there anyone out there that has been denied access to Local Hospital
[19:55] <Penguincsc> any of you plan to watch Category5.tv live tonight?
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> Guest78165, this is ubuntu support only
[19:56] <Zopiac> lol
[19:56] <Zopiac> wrong chat :X
[19:56] <Guest78165> sorry
[19:56] <Guest78165> where should I be
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> Guest78165, there is #ubuntu-offtopic but there are channel limitations there as well.
[19:56] <Zopiac> as in, my 'lol' was wrong chat
[19:56] <Guest78165> ok sorry just new
[19:56] <enzopitek> do you know a svn server with authentification for testing my svn client ?
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> Guest78165, I have not scene a channel for your question, maybe a gov office?
[19:57] <Guest78165> Ok TY
[19:57] <Penguincsc> famille: did disabling the audio in the BIOS help?
[19:57] <CT1> How can I setup ubuntu to connect to a VPN server in another country to trick websites into thinking I'm in the country the server is?
[19:58] <famille> Penguincsc: Hey, i desactivate sound card with BIOS, but dont work :(
[19:58] <Penguincsc> famille: did the computer boot?
[19:58] <famille> boot, but the monitor (screen?) shutdown
[19:59] <Penguincsc> famille: I can help you in spanish, but maybe in a private chat?
[20:00] <Penguincsc> CT1: try tor
[20:00] <famille> ok penguin
[20:01] <Banan^> hi guys - got a problem with my raid 1 - after ubuntu 12.04 upgrade, I can't find it. It shows up perfectly well in the hardware controller, as a raid 1 - but I can't see it in ubuntu .. ? Any ideas? sudo fdisk -l and cat /etc/fstab here -> http://pastebin.com/MbSM5KaH
[20:02] <CT1> Penguincsc: I have a private VPN server already running in the UK. I can use it with windows but in ubuntu I don't have web access (only access to the local machines on that network in the UK)
[20:03] <vlt> Penguincsc: Check your default route.
[20:03] <vlt> barna: What does `blkid` look like?
[20:03] <vlt> Banan^: ^
[20:03] <Cerrdor> can anyone recommend a good ircd to install on my server?
[20:05] <augustl> one of my sound cards (a USB DAC) is missing a sink in pulse audio, so no audio can play through it. It worked earlier today. Can I reload pulseaudio somehow?
[20:05] <augustl> don't want to bite the dust and reboot :P
[20:05] <CT1> vlt: In windows I had to specify dns server(s) then it worked. How do I change the route in ubuntu using the GUI? do I change something in "wired connection 1" or "my vpn"?
[20:07] <augustl> managed to restart pulse, got it working now. TODO: Learn pulse.
[20:09] <Jordan_U> Banan^: As vlt asked, please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid".
[20:09] <vlt> CT1: I don’t know how GUI tools work. You can check your current routing settings with `ip route` and the DNS with `cat /etc/resolv.conf`
[20:10] <jdv> the command line will not let me enter my [sudo] password in order to complete a command. I can type but the screen shows none of the text i just typed. Did i do something wrong?
[20:10] <Banan^> sudo blkid comming up
[20:10] <Banan^> :)
[20:10] <CT1> vlt: Thanks.  I'll do a little more googling.
[20:11] <prophit> Hi guys - I'm running desktop 12.04 on a VirtualBox VM - I've got two network adapters.. one is NAT, and the other is Host-Only so I can SSH into the VM. If I run Firefox I'm able to access the internet on the VM, but I can't ping anything via command line. Any suggestions where to look to try and fix this?
[20:11] <Penguincsc> CT1: what do you use under windows? PPTP?
[20:11] <heer> hello
[20:12] <CT1> Penguincsc: Let me fire up Virtualbox (it's a slow machine)
[20:12] <augustl> prophit: you can SSH into the vm with NAT
[20:12] <Banan^> http://pastebin.com/jrUsdRtj
[20:12] <augustl> prophit: the IP address it gets is accessible from the host, and the VM gets full network access too
[20:12] <CT1> Penguincsc: Yes. PPTP
[20:13] <prophit> augustl: how do I find out what the IP address of the guest is in that situation?
[20:14] <augustl> prophit: not actually sure what system that does the resolving there.. but "ip addr" from inside the vm lists it
[20:14] <augustl> prophit: avahi/bonjour is nice to have in these kinds of situations, so that all you need to know is the hostname
[20:14] <augustl> in case you don't want to figure out how to somehow get the IP from virtualbox :)
[20:16] <jdv> why does the command line not acknowledge the text i just typed when it asks for my [sudo] password? how do i fix it?
[20:16] <mcphail> jdv: it is a feature, not a bug
[20:16] <jdv> mcphail: how do i work around it?
[20:17] <zykotick9> !password | jdv
[20:17] <mcphail> jdv: you don't. Echoing a password is futile and dangerous
[20:17] <jdv> im struggling to understand...
[20:17] <microm> I no longer see ncsvc in ~/.juniper_networks/network_connect, and the download from the vpn firewall is not giving it to me (everything else is there though)
[20:18] <augustl> jdv: you're referring to the fact that sudo doesn't give any feedback as you type? That's normal
[20:18] <mcphail> jdv: sudo is reading your keypresses. It simply won't print "*" on the screen for each letter
[20:18] <jdv> augustl: but nothing happens after i finish typing!
[20:18] <augustl> jdv: you press enter I guess? :P
[20:19] <jdv> augustl: i hit [enter] too
[20:19] <augustl> jdv: so `sudo ls`, your password, then enter, and nothing happens?
[20:20] <jdv> augustl: hold on a sec and ill try that :)
[20:20] <augustl> perhaps it's the command you're running that doesn't actually do anything
[20:20] <augustl> also, by command line, do you mean the Terminal? Or alt+f2, or something else?
[20:20] <Banan^> vlt: sudo blkid @ http://pastebin.com/jrUsdRtj
[20:20] <Banan^> Jordan_U: see above =)
[20:21] <jdv> augustl: i mean Terminal
[20:22] <jdv> augustl: i was trying to run the command: "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[20:22] <Jordan_U> Banan^: Since you're using FakeRAID, rather than true hardware RAID or linux software RAID, you'll need to make sure you have dmraid installed.
[20:23] <augustl> jdv: "sudo cwd" might be a bit better, it will always print something, "ls" might not print if the dir you're in is empty
[20:23] <augustl> jdv: just to test that it works
[20:23] <augustl> not sure why apt-get install wouldn't print anything..
[20:23] <gilesfun> hi
[20:23] <jdv> augustl: ill try that
[20:23] <jdv> gilesfun: hi :)
[20:23] <gilesfun> anyone need some ubuntu help
[20:23] <gilesfun> Im here to help
[20:24] <dagerik> me too
[20:24] <jdv> augustl: i tried that. i asks for my [sudo] password
[20:24] <augustl> jdv: right, then you enter the password, and hit the enter key? Then what happens?
[20:24] <marke> any real difference between rsync over ssh vs rsync through ssh tunnel (via localhost) ?
[20:24] <augustl> marke: only that it'll do two SSH's :)
[20:24] <Banan^> Jordan_U: I can type dmraid -h and get a list of options
[20:25] <marke> the former or latter?
[20:25] <augustl> marke: ssh tunnels are transparent functionality wise. You'll obviously get everything double encrypted etc though
[20:25] <Jordan_U> gilesfun: dagerik: No need to announce you're availability (and please don't as it just adds clutter). Simply wait around and if you see a question you can help with, respond with help :)
[20:25] <jdv> augustl: is my [sudo] password different than my login password?
[20:25] <Banan^> Jordan_U: but a little concerned you call it fakeraid - it's a hardware controller on a pci card?
[20:25] <marke> ah I see
[20:25] <augustl> jdv: sudo ask for your login password, yes
[20:26] <jdv> augustl: whenever i try to type that in, i get no feedback onscreen and hitting enter produces no response
[20:26] <marke> ssh tunnel essentially allows me to whitelist only the loopback on rsyncd on the server that's why I was considering it
[20:26] <augustl> jdv: so "sudo pwd", you enter your password, hit enter, what happens exactly?
[20:27] <marke> not sure if that's a good enough reason though
[20:27] <Jordan_U> Banan^: It's FakeRAID because all of the RAID functionality is on Software / BIOS Option ROMS which use the CPU and the system's main RAM to do all the work (and less efficiently than native linux software RAID at that).
[20:27] <augustl> hardware raids are actually quite rare. I bought a raid hardware card without investigating and it turns out that too was fake raid. It was just a SATA card basically
[20:27] <jdv> augustl: it prompts me for my [sudo] password
[20:28] <augustl> jdv: right, and when you type in your password and hit the enter key, what happens exactly? Do you just get a new prompt? It doesn't print the path to the directory you're in?
[20:28] <Varikonniemi> hello, i am having problems getting gnome-shell to work on my ubuntu server installation. Unity works fine but gnome-shell fails into fallback mode
[20:28] <Jordan_U> augustl: They're quite common for server hardware, but also very expensive. I don't think I've ever seen true hardware RAID for the consumer market.
[20:29] <wilhart> what is channel for mint?
[20:29] <Jordan_U> !mint | wilhart
[20:29] <jdv> augustl: it worked!! i got the file directory im in!!
[20:30] <augustl> Jordan_U, Banan^: having troubles with setting up fake raid btw? I've done that before
[20:30] <jdv> augustl: now can i run the command i was trying to run in the first place?
[20:30] <Banan^> ah - ok makes sense, thanks for the clarification ;)
[20:30] <augustl> jdv: yay, what did you do differently this time?
[20:30] <Banan^> augustl: I can't see my raid1
[20:30] <Banan^> I can see the disks, but they are not "mounted" anywhere afaik
[20:31] <jdv> augustl: I typed my full password, even though i got no text on the screen as i hit the keys, and then hit [enter]
[20:31] <augustl> Banan^: at what time? Boot/GRUB, or after you've logged in?
[20:31] <augustl> jdv: cool, that's how sudo works :)
[20:31] <Banan^> I see the disks when using the sudo fdisk -l command
[20:31] <jdv> augustl: thank you so much for your help and your time!! God bless!! :) :) :)
[20:32] <Banan^> and I see them on the controller card during boot, when going into the setup using ctrl+s
[20:32] <guntbert> jdv: thats how password entry in CLI always works - no visual feedback
[20:32] <augustl> jdv: hehe no probs
[20:32] <augustl> Banan^: so you want them to mount automatically? You don't boot from a raid?
[20:32] <jdv> guntbert: ahh........
[20:32] <Banan^> no, I boot from a small ssd
[20:32] <jdv> guntbert: this is my first linux machin
[20:33] <Banan^> I had them "mounted" before ubuntu went to 12.04
[20:33] <stevio> Anyone available to help with a Flash problem in Xubuntu 11?
[20:33] <guntbert> jdv: take your time - you will learn what you need :-)
[20:33] <augustl> Banan^: good, booting from raid is hard..
[20:33] <jdv> guntbert: im training to become a linux ninja and then i can carry  sword and wear a cool mask. you cant rush these things ;)
[20:33] <jdv> guntbert: thanks man!
[20:35] <augustl> Banan^: iirc you just need to load the correct kernel module and you'll have /dev for the disk and you can just add it to the fstab
[20:35] <augustl> sec, refreshing my memory a bit ;)
[20:35] <stevio> Anyone know why Flash might work in Chrome but not in Opera or Firefox? In those browsers, Flash seems to load, but it's just a black box. Running Xubuntu 11, recently installed.
[20:35] <FreeGeekVan> HP photo scanner 1000, anyone have success using it with 12.04. If so how?
[20:35] <augustl> Banan^: the module is dmraid, the dev will be in /dev/mapper/something-something
[20:36] <augustl> Banan^: that device will be a plain block device, so it will be transparent to fstab and what not that it's actually a raid
[20:36] <augustl> Banan^: so add dmraid to /etc/modules and have lunch!
[20:36] <Banan^> augustl: soooo .. exactly how would I go about doing that? :)
[20:37] <greg> Hi all.  Noob here.  Anyone know of a good search app for Ubuntu?
[20:38] <greg>  Hi all.  Noob here.  Anyone know of a good search app for Ubuntu?
[20:38] <Arkangel> HELLO WORLD, glad to be on the #ubuntu channel :D
[20:38] <greg> Need a good file search app...
[20:39] <RGErrDay> hello
[20:39] <RGErrDay> Hola!
[20:39] <xrdodrx> I have a Logitech Wireless Mouse and it's not working at all in Ubuntu 12.04...what can I do?
[20:39] <xrdodrx> an m510
[20:40] <augustl> Banan^: think this should work. 1) apt-get intsall dmraid 2) add the line "dmraid" without quotes to /etc/modules 3) try to mount it, mount /dev/mapper/your-raid-here /path/to/any/folder 4) if it works, add "/dev/mapper/your-raid-here /path/to/any/folder ntfs defaults 0 1" without quotes to /etc/fstab
[20:40] <OerHeks> greg open terminal: locate <filename> or nautilus: hit ctrl + f(ind)
[20:40] <augustl> Banan^: you probably already have dmraid though? If not, how did you set up your raid?
[20:40] <Banan^> augustl: it looks like I have dmraid
[20:41] <augustl> you probably used it to set up the raid in the first place
[20:41] <augustl> oh wait, the module is called "dm_mod", not "dmraid"
[20:41] <oem> HP photo scanner 1000, anyone have success using this with 12.04, if so how?
[20:41] <Banan^> augustl: if I write dmraid in terminal, it returns ERROR: no arguments/options given (-h for help)
[20:41] <greg> Thanks OerHeks, but isn't there a good GUI one?
[20:41] <radzior> why my flash player wont start in ubuntu 12.04?
[20:41] <augustl> Banan^: you're not supposed to write "dmraid" in terminal to make it work though :)
[20:41] <greg> I know there's a lot of terminal stuff for me to learn but for now I'd like a simple GUI app.
[20:42] <Banan^> dm_mod: command not found
[20:42] <Banan^> :/
[20:42] <augustl> Banan^: you're not supposed to write dm_mod in the terminal either :P
[20:42] <augustl> it's a kernel module, as I said you should add it to /etc/modules
[20:42] <Banan^> ah .. I knew that =)
[20:42] <radzior> od modprobe it
[20:42] <augustl> Banan^: try to load the module first if you want, "modprobe dm_raid"
[20:42] <radzior> or*
[20:42] <OerHeks> greg nautilus: hit ctrl + f(ind)
[20:43] <Banan^> dm_raid or dmraid ?
[20:43] <augustl> dm_raid iirc
[20:43] <radzior> does anybody have issues with flashplayer in firefox?
[20:43] <augustl> you won't break your system if you try both, you'll just get an error message if it doesn't exist
[20:43] <greg> I've used the ctrl+f function (it launches when I start typing too) but it only searches the folder that you are currently in.  I am looking for a global search app.
[20:44] <radzior> ive installed it and it just wont run even youtube dont know where to look for an error
[20:45] <greg> BTW, I think Ubuntu rules
[20:45] <arooni-mobile> is disk utility accurate?  it says i have 52 "pending sectors"  (0 reallocated sectors)  but when i ran badblocks (:  sudo badblocks -b 512 /dev/sda -v ... got Pass completed, 0 bad blocks found. (0/0/0 errors)).... what i'm concerned about is ive seen 52 pending sectors in less than a week (its a brand new drive)
[20:45] <Cerrdor> Anyone have experience with ngircd?
[20:45] <greg> Ok, need to restart.  Be back shortly.
[20:45] <Cerrdor> the IRC daemon
[20:46] <augustl> Banan^: any progress?
[20:47] <RGErrDay> Well this is quite full
[20:47] <Banan^> augustl: well .. modprobe dm_raid returned a lot of errors; http://pastebin.com/gSBqQxWJ
[20:48] <Banan^> so I did a sudo modprobe dm_raid -- and that just returned nothing
[20:48] <RGErrDay> Hey
[20:48] <augustl> Banan^: ya you need to do kernel module stuff as root
[20:48] <augustl> Banan^: modprobe returning nothing = good
[20:49] <augustl> Banan^: general tip, run "echo $?" to see the status code of the previous command, 0 = success
[20:49] <Banan^> returns 0 :)
[20:50] <OerHeks> arooni-mobile, technically those 52 pending sectors are spare sectors on your drive  aka s.m.a.r.t.  "reallocated" sectors are called remaps
[20:50] <OerHeks> arooni-mobile, and remaps are faulty sectors, so you are fine
[20:50] <augustl> Banan^: yay, module is loaded. Try "ls /dev/mapper, should list some fancy stuff
[20:50] <Banan^> augustl: cool! I See the disk!
[20:51] <augustl> nice, now make a new empty dir and mount /dev/mapper/wtf /path/to/your/new/dir
[20:51] <augustl> should Just Work
[20:51] <Banan^> well I can access it perfectly as is
[20:51] <Banan^> and all my wonderful data =D
[20:51] <augustl> oh
[20:51] <osmosis> join #ubuntu-server
[20:51] <augustl> not sure what I'm helping you with then :)
[20:51] <Banan^> so it'll automagically load up upon every boot now?
[20:52] <augustl> ah, that was the problem
[20:52] <augustl> first, what did you do to mount the raid before?
[20:53] <Banan^> have no idea - I had it running under windows 2003, then the system disk died. Bought a SSD and decided to give Ubuntu a try. It worked perfectly, saw all my data on the raid, no problem - then Ubuntu did the 12.04 upgrade - and the raid disk was gone.
[20:53] <augustl> but you have it mounted now?
[20:53] <Banan^> I didn't do anything to mount it under Ubuntu - I just installed the system on the new ssd
[20:54] <schultza> is this a hardware raid?
[20:54] <g3orge> what are the test directories along with the src in some projects?
[20:54] <augustl> Banan^: so ubuntu DID automatically mount it? Because it's mounted right now, and you didn't manually moung it?
[20:54] <augustl> mount*
[20:54] <augustl> g3orge: the automated tests typically
[20:54] <Banan^> it's a pci sata raid controller card
[20:55] <g3orge> which do what?? augustl
[20:55] <schultza> ubuntu live saw this and you installed on raid or on the ssd seperately?
[20:55] <augustl> g3orge: scripts created by the programmers that execute the program and see if it worked correctly
[20:55] <g3orge> oh
[20:55] <mcphail> g3orge: if you change anything in the source, run the tests to see if it still works
[20:55] <g3orge> nice
[20:55] <Banan^> schultza: I install Ubuntu on the new SSD disk, having the Raid 1 running along it with just data.
[20:56] <g3orge> are they executable the most times?
[20:56] <schultza> what's backing up the ssd under raid 1?
[20:56] <augustl> typically there's a framework being used, and a specific way to run the tests. Not familiar with how C projects does it, but I guess it's in the Makefile with "make test" etc
[20:56] <mcphail> g3orge: usually run "make test"
[20:56] <JensenDan> where are my favorites from FF saved?
[20:56] <augustl> JensenDan: in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[20:57] <zamba> how can i disable a service at start up in ubuntu?
[20:57] <g3orge> thx
[20:57] <Banan^> augustl: I did nothing to mount anything -- I just installed Ubuntu on the SSD .. tbh I don't recall if I did anything special related to the raid 1 during install or after first boot .. but seeing that I'm a complete *nix newbie, I doubt I would have figured that out without asking =D
[20:57] <zamba> redhat-based distros have chkconfig <service> off
[20:57] <zamba> and busybox has /etc/init.d/service disable
[20:57] <augustl> Banan^: so it seems like there is no problem then? :) It's automatically mounted, all is good?
[20:57] <zamba> what about ubuntu?
[20:58] <schultza> augustl: i think he is saying that it's not booting
[20:58] <Banan^> no, it's booting fine
[20:58] <schultza> ah, ok
[20:58] <Banan^> I couldn't see the raid 1 data
[20:58] <schultza> what's the problem?
[20:58] <Banan^> after ubuntu 12.04 update
[20:58] <Banan^> before 12.04 I could see the data
[20:58] <debsan> zamba, /etc/init.d/service stop
[20:59] <augustl> zamba: ut used to be update-rc.d, not sure if that sill applies in 12.04 though
[20:59] <zamba> debsan: that's for STOPPING it, yeah, but i want to prevent it from booting
[20:59] <Banan^> all I did to resolve the problem (as it seems) was running "sudo modprobe dm_raid"
[20:59] <Banan^> so .. THANKS :D
[20:59] <augustl> zamba: update-rc.d is mentioned in the man page for "service" though so I guess it still applies. But yeah, now I'm just guessing
[20:59] <debsan> zamba, rcconf
[20:59] <augustl> Banan^: ah, cool
[21:00] <zamba> debsan: what's that?
[21:00] <augustl> Banan^: make sure you add it to /etc/modules too. Edit the file with gedit or something and just add one line
[21:00] <schultza> i havent dealt with raid.. so i was trying to look it up
[21:00] <schultza> dm_raid, huh?
[21:01] <Banan^> augustl: what line do I want to add to /etc/modules ?
[21:01] <augustl> schultza: yeah that's for managing fakeraids
[21:01] <augustl> Banan^: just "dm_raid", that's enough to make it load at boot
[21:01] <Banan^> right now it just have a few comments and a single line with lp
[21:01] <Banan^> ok
[21:01] <augustl> yeah, add a new line below lp
[21:01] <Banan^> what's lp doing here?
[21:01] <augustl> lp is another module
[21:01] <Banan^> ah
[21:03] <harshad> command scheduled using 'at' command can't be excuted
[21:03] <trism> zamba: if it is an upstart service (the job file is in /etc/init/) then see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[21:04] <Banan^> augustl: thanks a million bro, you saved me around 100 gbs of photos and video captured since 1999 .. =) well, I do have a backup but that haven't been updated since november last year ..
[21:04] <augustl> Banan^: haha nice
[21:04] <Banan^> speaking of which - can anyone recommend a good backup utility for ubuntu?
[21:04] <Banan^> =)
[21:04] <augustl> Banan^: btw, I'm kind of amazed it just worked, I thought dmraid could only manage raids created with dmraid
[21:04] <schultza> jeez.. keep them updated :)
[21:05] <augustl> Banan^: what did you use to create the raid originally?
[21:05] <Banan^> well I made it under windows 2003
[21:06] <augustl> nice, TIL
[21:06] <augustl> Banan^: for backup, I use dropbox for important stuff, and manually dumping stuff to various servers and s3 and what not for remote backups..
[21:07] <Banan^> also .. you saved my picassa face recognition database .. phhhhew .. spent MONTHS building that thing ;)
[21:07] <Banan^> well, just did a count - I have 138 gb's of photos
[21:07] <Banan^> I'm not gonna dropbox that shit on any old cloud with my ADSL connection
[21:07] <augustl> Banan^: yeah I also use picasa for photos
[21:08] <augustl> basically I don't really have anything I need to back up.. My code is all over various servers via version control, photos on picasa, private keys locked down somewhere, and so on
[21:08] <osmosis> why is munin-node-configure not suggesting the 'memory' graph on 12.04?
[21:08] <Banan^> got a 2tb external drive with the backup data, just want to add data to that incrementally
[21:10] <augustl> Banan^: I just started listening to music as FLACs though, so I need to find a method for backing up my music collection..
[21:16] <Benxyzzy> I wrote a perl script, ran it with & (background) via ssh and then closed the ssh session. The perl script continued running in my absence. I just ran a downloaded program (rtorrent) with &, tried to exit, and got a "there are stopped jobs" message. What's the difference between these two?
[21:16] <Cerrdor> how do I enable colors in terminal?
[21:16] <Cerrdor> file=this color tar=this color etc?
[21:16] <Banan^> augustl: so let me know what backup software you'll run with =)
[21:17] <augustl> Banan^: I like the terminal so I'll probably use http://duplicity.nongnu.org/ or something ;)
[21:17] <wawowe> Benxyzzy: type bg before you exit
[21:18] <Benxyzzy> wawowe: I did, rtorrent continued in the background, I typed exit, I got the "there are stopped jobs" message again
[21:18] <Erealz> need quiky favor
[21:18] <Erealz> is anyone running ubuntu 64bit?
[21:19] <Benxyzzy> Erealz: Many people I should think
[21:19] <wawowe> Benxyzzy: rtorrent isn't meant to run in the background
[21:19] <Erealz> yes
[21:19] <DMASS> Benxyzzy: try  nohup  cmd  &
[21:19] <Erealz> but
[21:19] <Erealz> is anyone right now ?
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> !enter| Erealz
[21:19] <wawowe> Benxyzzy: run it in screen and ctrl+a d
[21:19] <Erealz> sorry
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> Erealz  don't ask to ask, just ask
[21:20] <Erealz> i just did
[21:20] <Erealz> is anyone running ubuntu 64bit
[21:20] <schultza> ok. why are you asking if anyone is running 64 bit?
[21:20] <Erealz> i need a copy of sources.list
[21:20] <ale9> Hello
[21:21] <Erealz> i hosed mine now im getting all kinds of 401 lines
[21:21] <schultza> ale9: hi
[21:21] <Erealz> i just need a fresh copy
[21:21] <wawowe> Benxyzzy: the difference is a program that depends on the current shell and one that can run independently
[21:21] <schultza> on sources.list, is there a difference between 32 and 64 bit?
[21:21] <zykotick9> schultza: no - they're the same
[21:21] <schultza> !sources
[21:21] <Erealz> just in case i like to be thrall
[21:22] <Benxyzzy> DMASS : Thja
[21:22] <Erealz> come guys realy now one can hook me up?
[21:22] <ale9> a question, which file system to use for a SDD?
[21:22] <cccangel> hey guys im on ubuntu 12.04 lts and i got a printer server already setup and shared and i got another computer trying to connect but I have this error "Processing - not connected".  what can i do?
[21:22] <t432> I have the /home directory in seperate partition, it works fine but noticed when using eclipse ide i have to set the "workspace" from "/home" to "/root" to install software....what could be the problem?
[21:22] <Benxyzzy> DMASS / Erealz L Thanks for the nohup & screen info, looks like what I want. It's funny that I didn't need to do this with my perl script is all; maybe it's because the script wasn't interactive / awaiting input
[21:23] <wawowe> Erealz: get it the same way you go the last one
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> Erealz  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1013763/
[21:23] <Erealz> wowowe chill out
[21:24] <wawowe> Erealz: no!
[21:24] <Erealz> what your problem im asking for help and you respond with tthat
[21:24] <Erealz> you know how everyone get the file witch install the system
[21:24] <Erealz> right
[21:24] <wawowe> Erealz: you go to ubuntu.com and download the iso
[21:24] <Erealz> so what you want me to reinstall my entire system all over again?
[21:25] <schultza> he doesnt want to reinstall the whole thing again
[21:25] <schultza> he may be on a dialup
[21:25] <wawowe> Erealz: maybe i misunderstood what you were asking for
[21:25] <schultza> he has a corrupted sources.list
[21:25] <Praxi> hmm not sure if I'm searching for the right terms.  When I grab the corner of a window to resize it, the area I can grab is insanely small.  Is that called "Grab Handles" for my googling?
[21:26] <Erealz> apparently
[21:26] <wawowe> Erealz: running 12.04?
[21:26] <Erealz> forget man this guy hooked me up
[21:26] <bastidrazor> Praxi: you can use alt + middle click to resize the window
[21:26] <MonkeyDust> Erealz  I just pasted my sources.list
[21:26] <schultza> Erealz: lsb_release -a will tell what version you are running. Or use Monkey's
[21:26] <Erealz> thanks to monkey
[21:26] <Erealz> yea
[21:27] <Erealz> thank bro your leet.
[21:27] <Erealz> this other guy
[21:27] <Erealz> not so much.
[21:27] <Praxi> thanks bastidrazor that helps, is there any way to make those grab handles bigger for when I maybe forget your helpful tip? :)
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> Erealz  don't forget to sudo apt-get update after pasting it in /etc/apt/
[21:28] <sqwertle> I accidentally deleted the gnome notification panel (time, power options, connection stuff) and I can't find a way to reinstate it. Right clicking and alt+Right clicking does not bring up any panel options.
[21:28] <Erealz> yup you know it bro.
[21:28] <Erealz> thanks.
[21:28] <Benxyzzy> What does the c in crwx stand for? As in, the permissions string that ls -l gives. The c is where d would be for a directory
[21:28] <bastidrazor> Praxi: i do not know, i've always used alt+middle click since ..ever
[21:29] <Praxi> haha k, thanks bastidrazor :)
[21:31] <cccangel> hey guys i am having trouble connecting to my printer that is connected to another laptop in ubuntu 12.04 LTS, can someone please please help me?
[21:31] <zykotick9> Benxyzzy: "c denotes a character special file" i'm not really sure what that means though...
[21:31] <Benxyzzy> zyykotick9: Ah, that makes sense, thanks
[21:31] <sqwertle> Right clicking on the panel (as well as alt+right clicking) does not bring up any options at all.
[21:31] <zykotick9> !tab > Benxyzzy
[21:32] <Benxyzzy> :)
[21:32] <augustl> sqwertle: you could always delete all the configurations so it'll recreate the next time you log in..
[21:32] <sqwertle> augustl: How would I go about doing that?
[21:33] <augustl> sqwertle: it's probably in ~/.config somewhere
[21:33] <augustl> or perhaps ~/.gconf or ~/.gnome (just guessing now)
[21:33] <prophit> augustl: I removed my VM's host-only adapter, verified that I can still access the internet via Firefox on the guest, but I still can't ping anything from the CLI. Seems like Firefox is able to resolve some proxy settings that ping can't?
[21:34] <augustl> prophit: hmm, do you have any proxies running on your network?
[21:34] <prophit> yes
[21:35] <augustl> sounds likely that firefox is able to automatically detect some proxy stuff, but not sure, never used proxies
[21:35] <augustl> not sure how Virtualbox NAT behaves with proxies on the host
[21:35] <prophit> augustl: I was hoping it would rely on the host machine for proxy settings
[21:35] <Okeanos> can i ask a question?
[21:35] <zykotick9> !ask | Okeanos
[21:36] <augustl> prophit: that would have been my guess too :)
[21:38] <Okeanos> I have age of Mythology but don't have a graphics card, so i tried to bypass this, by using 3d analyzer, this seemed to have worked, however, after the loading screen, the screen just went black showing the cursor, and still had sound. I hoped someone could help me with this?
[21:41] <nwilson5> OerHeks (i was asking about the device_boot_led before) - i eventually reset bios and unplugged everything, tested with one stick of ram and got all my hdds to work etc. turns out i *think* to be a faulty stick of ram.
[21:41] <nwilson5> i'm able to boot now magically and i'm running memtest
[21:41] <nwilson5> memtest is failing at some point and i'm not exactly sure how to tell which stick of ram it is that is failing, but it's at least something
[21:42] <Okeanos> I have age of Mythology but don't have a graphics card, so i tried to bypass this, by using 3d analyzer, this seemed to have worked, however, after the loading screen, the screen just went black showing the cursor, and still had sound. I hoped someone could help me with this?
[21:42] <vlt> Hello. When I run ffmpeg I get the following message: “This program is not developed anymore and is only provided for compatibility. Use avconv instead (see Changelog for the list of incompatible changes).” This doesn’t seem to be true. Who wrote this and why?
[21:42] <nwilson5> imbezol, too. since you were helping me before. think it's a ram issue (what i said ^^)
[21:42] <zykotick9> Okeanos: #winehq is the wine channel - if you "don't have a graphics card" how are you planning on seeing the game?
[21:43] <cdj> Hey does anybody know if by using two WiFi cards I can make a WiFi hotspot of a Wifi network I'm connected to?
[21:43] <cdj> my laptop gets wifi where my iphone can't, so I'd like to make my laptop a wifi extender, if you will
[21:43] <schultza> you mean a wifi repeater?
[21:43] <cdj> yeah
[21:43] <vlt> cdj: Yes, (though that must be possible also with only one card ).
[21:43] <wawowe> cdj: you could do it with one
[21:44] <cdj> really?
[21:44] <schultza> it should be possible.. linux can use sub.interfaces
[21:44] <cdj> I read somewhere you have to have two, one in listening and one in broadcast mode :/
[21:44] <imbezol> nwilson5: test with one stick at a time
[21:44] <bastidrazor> !ics | cdj
[21:44] <cdj> though my phone can do it, serve as a wifi hotspot while being connected to wifi...
[21:44] <imbezol> nwilson5: if you find a single bad stick, test again with that same stick in a different slot
[21:45] <Okeanos> I have age of Mythology but don't have a graphics card, so i tried to bypass this, by using 3d analyzer, this seemed to have worked, however, after the loading screen, the screen just went black showing the cursor, and still had sound. I hoped someone could help me with this?
[21:45] <vlt> !repeat | Okeanos
[21:45] <Jordan_U> vlt: Why do you think it's not true?
[21:45] <cdj> bastidrazor: will read, thanks!
[21:45] <zykotick9> !repeat | Okeanos
[21:45] <ReZK2LL> http://www.zone-h.org/mirror/id/17752220 you need see this ;)
[21:45] <vlt> Jordan_U: ffmpeg just released a new version a few days ago.
[21:45] <Studious> hello linux world
[21:46] <schultza> When testing memory. It can either be a memory problem or a motherboard port/interface problem...
[21:47] <osmosis> all I want is a lcd keyboard that dynamically changes key positions based on my finger spacing so I can stretch out
[21:47] <Okeanos> apparently several people have managed to use age of mythololgy without a graphics card, so i was trying to follow their example
[21:47] <osmosis> Okeanos, whats age of mythology? link?
[21:47] <schultza> age of mythology is a 3d game
[21:48] <Penguincsc> Studious: you have a uestion?
[21:48] <Penguincsc> question
[21:49] <nwilson5> ok imbezol , i'll test them all. may take a while 8gb a stick , 8 sticks lol. thanks for your help throughout
[21:49] <Okeanos> well apparently many people have managed to download some sort of 3d processor
[21:50] <cccangel> Hey guys i am getting "Processing - The printer is not responding." when trying to connect to my printer.  What am I possibly overlooking?
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> Okeanos  is it in wine?
[21:50] <Okeanos> what is wine?
[21:50] <Penguincsc> cccangel: is it ready?
[21:50] <schultza> !wine | Okeanos
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[21:51] <cccangel> Penguincsc, its ready on the host computer but i get that error on the connecting printer.
[21:51] <Penguincsc> cccangel: maybe it's out of paper?
[21:51] <cccangel> Penguincsc, nope. i get that error when i try to get remote computer to connect to the host computer
[21:51] <Okeanos> how do u put the name in red?
[21:51] <cccangel> Penguincsc, the printer prints just fine
[21:51] <schultza> Okeanos: most clients will do that when it's your name with : at the end...
[21:51] <Penguincsc> maybe it's a permissions issue
[21:52] <cccangel> hmm
[21:52] <schultza> Okeanos: the name and : has to be leading the line
[21:52] <Penguincsc> cccaldas: try checking the CUPS settings (server menu)
[21:52] <Okeanos> schultza: is that it?
[21:52] <tetris4> hello, am trying to import the ubuntu one client on Chakra, is there some channel dedicated to one?
[21:52] <zykotick9> i don't think so schultza
[21:52] <schultza> Okeanos: yes, but my client doesnt do that, unfortunately.. thats why i said most clients
[21:53] <czz> What's a easy vnc server to setup and connect to?
[21:53] <Jordan_U> vlt: Odd, it seems that libav and ffmpeg are two different projects who share almost the same website and don't mention the other. It's hard to tell from their websites how they relate to each other.
[21:53] <schultza> czz: running vnc locally or across the Internet?
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> tetris4  what's chakra?
[21:53] <Penguincsc> czz: what do you need it for? I like the Google Chrome Remote Desktop
[21:53] <UBuxuBU> its a linux distro
[21:54] <cccangel> Penguincsc, now i tried to do an ipp address and it gives me "Stopped - The printer URI is incorrect or no longer exists."
[21:54] <tetris4> MonkeyDust: a distribution =)
[21:54] <czz> schmidtm, Across the Internet.
[21:54] <czz> Penguincsc, I want to connect to a honeypot.
[21:54] <cccangel> gah im stuck... can someone help me connect to my cups server / setup printer sharing!? please.
[21:54] <Jordan_U> vlt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libav#Fork_from_FFmpeg
[21:54] <Okeanos> I have age of Mythology but don't have a graphics card, so i tried to bypass this, by using 3d analyzer, this seemed to have worked, however, after the loading screen, the screen just went black showing the cursor, and still had sound. I hoped someone could help me with this?
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> tetris4  36 nicknames in the #chakra channel
[21:54] <Penguincsc> cccangel: 12.04?
[21:54] <schultza> czz: you will need to secure it with a tunnel then. that complicates the setup
[21:54] <cccangel> Penguincsc, yes
[21:55] <schultza> and slows it down
[21:55] <venta7> trying to get ubuntu 12.04 and windows 7 dual boot on the same hard drive
[21:55] <tetris4> MonkeyDust: 35 now that you left =P
[21:55] <Picto> hey Penguinscs, im famille, thank you :)
[21:55] <Jordan_U> tetris4: #ubuntuone
[21:55] <Picto> look provate message
[21:55] <czz> schultza, No need to secure it.
[21:55] <Picto> private*
[21:55] <Penguincsc> cccangel: go to the Cog and click on the Printers
[21:56] <tetris4> Jordan_U: thnx mate
[21:56] <Jordan_U> tetris4: You're welcome.
[21:56] <cccangel> Penguincsc, where is the Cog your refering to?
[21:56] <Penguincsc> cccangel: choose Server --> Settings in the menu
[21:56] <dr3mro> hello .. i installed 3.4 kernel to percise from kernel.ubuntu.com ... and i used to run zram modules but since update i have failed to make it work with 3.4 any help ?
[21:56] <cccangel> Penguincsc, go on
[21:57] <cccangel> Penguincsc, i have publish shared printers and save debugging checked... everything else i left as default
[21:57] <Penguincsc> cccangel: now choose Settings under Server in the menu (top left
[21:57] <venta7> trying to get ubuntu 12.04 and windows 7 dual boot on the same hard drive, ubuntu already installed and the hard drive is partitioned as: /boot, /root, /home, swap and ntfs partition for windows
[21:57] <cccangel> Penguincsc, yes im in server settings
[21:58] <Jordan_U> vlt: So to clarify if it's not clear, libav is a fork of the ffmpeg project. Their fork has depricated the utility named "ffmpeg" in favor of their utility named "avconv". Ubuntu uses the libav fork, and thus you get this message when trying to run the "ffmpeg" utility.
[21:58] <donvito2> hello, i want to ask does unity 2d is installed on 12.04 by himself?
[21:58] <venta7> when I've tried to install win7, get an error: System was unable to create a new system partition or locate an existing system partition.
[21:58] <schultza> czz: i dont know much about vnc, you may want to look for one that features compression as it's across the Internet
[21:58] <Okeanos> I have age of Mythology but don't have a graphics card, so i tried to bypass this, by using 3d analyzer, this seemed to have worked, however, after the loading screen, the screen just went black showing the cursor, and still had sound. I hoped someone could help me with this?
[21:58] <Penguincsc> cccangel: check all except Remote Administration
[21:58] <venta7> how to go around this error and dual boot 12.04 and win7
[21:59] <cccangel> Penguincsc, okay hold on
[21:59] <xangua> Okeanos: did you check the wine databese¿
[21:59] <dr3mro> any help to enable zram modules?
[21:59] <Jordan_U> venta7: That sounds like a Windows problem. Try asking in ##windows.
[21:59] <cccangel> Penguincsc, including printing from the internet?
[21:59] <donvito2> ok how to install unity2d on ubuntu 12.04
[21:59] <Okeanos> xangua: how would i check the wine database?
[21:59] <xangua> dr3mro: i suggest you to stick with the packages provided by the official ubuntu repositories
[21:59] <zykotick9> xangua: +1
[21:59] <venta7> thanks jordan_U
[22:00] <morten77> venta7: do you have any primary partitions on that harddisk, or only extended/logical ones?
[22:00] <xangua> !appdb | Okeanos: like you were told, that's a windows game isn't it¿
[22:00] <Jordan_U> venta7: You're welcome.
[22:01] <cccangel> Penguincsc, im still stuck
[22:01] <venta7> jordan_U: is it possible the problem to exist because I've created a separate partition for the boot
[22:01] <Penguincsc> cccangel: no
[22:01] <cccangel> oh ok
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> venta7  did you use wubi?
[22:01] <cccangel> Penguincsc, okay i have all of that setup
[22:01] <venta7> morten77: I have primary partitions
[22:02] <Penguincsc> cccangel:  restart the CUPS on the host machine
[22:02] <cccangel> how do i do that?
[22:02] <Penguincsc> cccangel:  did you check this on the host machine?
[22:02] <venta7> only /home is logical
[22:02] <dr3mro> xangua, i need to use 3.4 as it fixes cpu overheat
[22:02] <cccangel> Penguincsc, i got both the host and guest laptops sitting next to eachotyher'
[22:03] <cccangel> but how do i reset cups?  I couldnt figure that out earlier...
[22:03] <comptekki> hi - I tried to change the resolution of ubuntu in vmware exsi and now it is out of range or something and I get no gui.
[22:03] <vlt> Jordan_U: I begin to understand: When I install ffmpeg on Ubuntu I get libav (which is an ffmpeg fork). They developed their own frontend tool avconv and dropped the ffmpeg tool. That would explain why I get some errors and lack of functionality in the ubuntu version compared to the one I get from ffmpeg.org.
[22:03] <Penguincsc> cccangel:  I mean - did you checked the settings on the computer the printer is connected to?
[22:03] <comptekki> I can log in with ssh.  Where can I change the resolution back to 800x600.
[22:03] <cccangel> Penguincsc, yes i did
[22:04] <Penguincsc> cccangel: cool. now restart cups
[22:04] <cccangel> Penguincsc, whats the command for that?
[22:04] <venta7> MonkeyDust, no wubi - I have Ubuntu already installed, and now I'm trying to install win7
[22:04] <schultza> I have had issues with ipp, for me it worked when i went ldp directly to printers... does this matter? what is the difference between ipp and ldp?
[22:04] <venta7> only for the photoshop
[22:04] <UBuxuBU> ubuntu is urging me to upgrage to 12.04
[22:04] <Penguincsc> in the console run sudo service cups restart
[22:05] <cccangel> Penguincsc, okay...
[22:05] <UBuxuBU> but 11.10 seems fine
[22:05] <Jordan_U> venta7: If you've used all primary partition slots then that would be a problem as Windows requires at least one primary partition (All of Ubuntu's partitions can be either primary or logical).
[22:05] <schultza> UBuxuBU: Eventually, 11.10 will run out of support time.
[22:06] <UBuxuBU> hmmm, when
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> venta7  windows ruins grub, better install windows first and then ubuntu
[22:06] <cccangel> Penguincsc, okay done that.. now how do a connect a guest computer to the host?
[22:06] <UBuxuBU> seems to work very well
[22:06] <cccangel> Penguincsc, i keep doing the auto detect one and it keeps failing.
[22:06] <Redbad72> Vim installed and configured, deadmau5 is pumping beats through Rhytmbox, keyboard ready, let's check out this 12.04. Looking forward to it.
[22:06] <Penguincsc> cccangel: for printing?
[22:06] <skd5aner> Hello, I've got a serious issue... I was in the middle of doing an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04, using do-release-upgrade... and my power went out :(  I can ssh back into the box, and it says that I'm running 12.04 when I log in, but I know for a fact it didn't get through the complete upgrade process - in fact, it was only a few minutes in :(
[22:06] <cccangel> Penguincsc, yes.
[22:06] <mash__> hi <3
[22:06] <skd5aner> how can I make sure the upgrade is completed successfully?
[22:07] <schultza> UBuxuBU: 11.10 support will end 2013-04.
[22:07] <Jordan_U> skd5aner: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:07] <prophit> augustl: wget and curl work for grabbing www.google.com, yet ping is getting 100% packet loss.. Apparently my network has determined that it is wise to block all ping traffic
[22:07] <Penguincsc> cccangel: both run ubuntu?
[22:07] <cccangel> Penguincsc, the printer shows up on the network just fine and i get the drivers easily but the thing ends up not working
[22:07] <skd5aner> Jordan_U: thanks, I was wondering if that'd do it
[22:07] <prophit> augustl: I just tried pinging various addresses from my host machine. I get the same behavior - all requests are timing out
[22:07] <cccangel> Penguincsc, yes they both run ubuntu 12.04 lts (first time i am doing this since i left windows lol)
[22:07] <UBuxuBU> sheez thats sooon
[22:08] <Jordan_U> skd5aner: You're welcome. That might miss some of the cleaning up of unneeded packages normally done, but otherwise should get you the same result. Not that I would recommend cutting power in the middle of an upgrade in the future :)
[22:08] <Penguincsc> cccangel: right click the printer on the host machine - is it shared?
[22:08] <cccangel> Penguincsc, yes.
[22:08] <UBuxuBU> i have 1204 on 2 other computers but this one seems to like 1110
[22:09] <skd5aner> Jordan_U: after running the apt-get update, it's asking me to run a dpkg --configure -a, so I am
[22:09] <Penguincsc> cccangel: wait
[22:09] <Sidewinder> !distupgrade | skd5aner
[22:10] <gnufun> Can anyone help me troubleshoot Flash? I feel like I tried everything: purging  and reinstalling the restricted extras package and flash plugin installer, using the ff flash extention that is supposed to detect the latest version and fix your flash problems.  I get: Missing Plugins where all flash content is supposed to be.
[22:10] <skd5aner> Jordan_U: yea, needless to say, my power company has been on a role lately of losing power for 2 seconds anytime the littlest bit of water falls from the sky and this particular box isn't on a UPS :/
[22:10] <cccangel> Penguincsc, i tried to the ipp address for the hosts lan ip address and it doesn't work
[22:10] <Penguincsc> cccangel: what printer? USB?
[22:11] <cccangel> Penguincsc, its a USB Canon Pixma MP 280
[22:11] <skd5aner> now it wants me to do an apt-get -f install :/
[22:11] <schultza> cccangel: is the printer a network printer?
[22:11] <Penguincsc> cccangel: try finding it by choosing Network Printer
[22:11] <Jordan_U> skd5aner: I can't wait until btrfs is standard and we can just say "Meh, just rollback to before the upgrade and try again" :)
[22:11] <skd5aner> sheesh, stupid power company
[22:11] <cccangel> Penguincsc, on the host or guest?
[22:11] <djskidd> Hello, I need to install Ubuntu to a USB Flash Drive.
[22:12] <skd5aner> Jordan_U: yea, that'll be great
[22:12] <venta7> Jordan_U, can I change the partition to logical now, without reinstalling Ubuntu?
[22:12] <djskidd> How do I do this in Wubi?
[22:12] <Penguincsc> cccangel: on the guest
[22:12] <cccangel> Penguincsc, ya it shows up under network printers even
[22:12] <skd5aner> Jordan_U: finally, can do a dist-upgrade now... thank you so much - I can't imagine what would happen if that happened in the middle of a windows upgrade :-o
[22:12] <stueng> djskidd: what do you mean by install on the USB drive. you want an actual install installed as if the USB drive was a HDD or you want a live CD on the USB key ?
[22:13] <Penguincsc> cccangel: install it from there, not IPP
[22:13] <Jordan_U> venta7: Yes, but you'll need to be careful and you'll need to re-run grub-install afterward. I would highly recommend backing up any important data first (but you already do that regularly, right? :)
[22:13] <Penguincsc> cccangel: see if that works
[22:13] <Jordan_U> skd5aner: You're welcome.
[22:13] <djskidd> I want as if the USB was an HDD
[22:13] <xangua> !usb | djskidd
[22:13] <stueng> djskidd: what OS are you on atm ?
[22:13] <Jordan_U> djskidd: Just do a normal installation as you would to an internal drive.
[22:13] <cccangel> Penguincsc, i did that and i realize it shows up as Local Raw Printer.  is it supposed to do that?
[22:13] <djskidd> Windows 7 Starter
[22:14] <stueng> Jordan_U: you can get it to install to USB as if it was HDD but it requires some hacking
[22:14] <Penguincsc> cccangel: no. wait
[22:14] <Jordan_U> djskidd: Do not use Wubi.
[22:14] <venta7> Jordan_U: yes I have backup
[22:14] <cccangel> Penguincsc, and the printer state is "Idle - The printer is not responding."
[22:14] <djskidd> So I need to get an ISO?
[22:14] <Jordan_U> stueng: I'm not aware of any hacking required, I've done this many times and looked into some of the code in Ubiquity.
[22:15] <mcphail> djskidd: that is the easiest way, yes
[22:15] <djskidd> Okay. I downloaded an ISO through BittTorrent yesterday anyway
[22:15] <stueng> Jordan_U: sorry misread you to say "you would require an internal drive" sorry lol
[22:15] <Jordan_U> djskidd: Do you have a CD you can burn and boot from, or another USB drive that you can put Ubuntu's installer on then boot from?
[22:15] <cccangel> Penguincsc, okay waiting...
[22:15] <djskidd> Yeah, I have another USB at my disposal
[22:16] <stueng> Jordan_U: djskidd from within windows you cannot treat the USB drive as if it was a HDD (i..e create partitions) unless you do some hacking
[22:17] <stueng> Jordan_U: djskidd but you can turn one USB key into a "live CD" and use that to boot into Ubuntu and install onto the second USB key.. which is what I guess you are about to explain ?
[22:17] <Penguincsc> cccangel: does it show correctly on the host?
[22:17] <cccangel> Penguincsc, yes it setup it up automatically drivers and all on the host
[22:18] <cccangel> Penguincsc, but the remote auto says those things above
[22:18] <cccangel> Penguincsc, i can print fine on the host, already checked
[22:18] <Penguincsc> cccangel: when installing on the guest, did it ask for a driver?
[22:19] <cccangel> Penguincsc, it says "remote cups printer via DNS-SD" and i click that
[22:19] <cccangel> Penguincsc, no prompt for driver
[22:19] <cccangel> Penguincsc, just asks if i can print test page
[22:19] <Penguincsc> cccangel: any other printers on the gues?
[22:19] <stueng> ccb056: the return button on your keyboard is not a puctuation mark
[22:20] <stueng> oops cccangel * lol
[22:20] <comptekki> i'm in 11.10, but I don't see an xorg.conf file in /etc/X
[22:20] <cccangel> Penguincsc, no
[22:20] <zykotick9> comptekki: xorg.conf doesn't exist by default, you'd need to create one
[22:20] <Penguincsc> cccangel: OK, delete all printers in the guest
[22:20] <cccangel> stueng, ah man.  i love doing that hehe
[22:20] <cccangel> Penguincsc, done.
[22:20] <comptekki> ok
[22:21] <Penguincsc> I don't have another computer here to test it myself
[22:22] <cccangel> Penguincsc, wait i am doing something a tad differently now
[22:22] <Penguincsc> cccangel: on the guest, in the printers window, choose to add a printer and click on the Nework Printer and let it find it
[22:23] <cccangel> Penguincsc, fixed it
[22:23] <stueng> when they call this the official suport channel.. does that mean people employed by canonical are here? and help?
[22:23] <Penguincsc> cccangel: cool - what did you do?
[22:23] <cccangel> Penguincsc, they need to say that instead of selecting your printer, type in your host ip address
[22:23] <cccangel> into the other option
[22:23] <Penguincsc> cccangel: great
[22:24] <cccangel> Penguincsc, sweet now im going to duplicate this
[22:24]  * TimRiker ughs at upstart... sure, it's more feature rich, but it's a pain to debug.
[22:24] <comptekki> zykotick9:  where does ubuntu keep it resolutions if  they are changed when xorg.conf doesn't exists?
[22:24] <OerHeks> stueng, no, we are all volunteers.
[22:24] <zykotick9> comptekki: it's automajic - sorry i don't know if it's stored anywhere
[22:24] <djskidd> Is it normal if avast! keeps telling you it found an infection in the same file every minute?
[22:24] <Penguincsc> cccangel: try this to use the scanner:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1582497&page=6
[22:24] <comptekki> zykotick9: ok
[22:24] <TimRiker> after an upgrade to precise, mysqld fails to start. start: Job failed to start   how do I debug that?
[22:25] <zykotick9> comptekki: if you create an xorg.conf it will be used
[22:25] <Penguincsc> Tiktalik: check dmesg
[22:25] <comptekki> zykotick9:  ok - i'm looking for a standard 800x600 one...
[22:25] <djskidd> AHHH OH NO
[22:25] <djskidd> Another disc goes to waste as another burn fails
[22:25] <CokeAddict> !java
[22:26] <mcphail> djskidd: please stick to the /topic in this channel
[22:26] <TimRiker> May 29 16:20:18 octo kernel: [25687.803066] init: mysql pre-start process (5060) terminated with status 1
[22:26] <cccangel> Penguincsc, you were awesome... i need to take4 a break.  ill hop on later if i have problems setting up scanner
[22:26] <cccangel> Penguincsc is the man!
[22:26] <Penguincsc> djskidd: what are you trying to do?
[22:26] <djskidd> Burn the ISO to disc
[22:26] <djskidd> an actual CD
[22:27] <mbucko> which script should i use for adding a user programs to run on startup?
[22:27] <djskidd> It says "Could not perform EndTrack"
[22:27] <Penguincsc> djskidd: do you need a bootable cd to install Ubuntu or a Live USB to play around with?
[22:27] <mcphail> mbucko: i usually add to cron. There are many other ways
[22:28] <Penguincsc> djskidd: do you need a bootable cd to install Ubuntu or a Live USB to play around with?
[22:28] <djskidd> I need a bootable CD so I can install it to a USB stick to use at school
[22:28] <mbucko> mcphail, whats cron?
[22:28] <Penguincsc> djskidd: do you have a USB drive?
[22:28] <djskidd> Yes, 4GB, my destination install
[22:29] <Penguincsc> djskidd: using Windows 7?
[22:29] <djskidd> Using Windows 7 Starter
[22:30] <Jordan_U> djskidd: Try following the instructions here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/burn-a-cd-on-windows
[22:30] <Guest10651> Hi, I'm trying to cerate a composite photo of stars sweepong accross the sky. I'm currently in the process of taking lots of long exposure photos on a timer; once I've got them all is there a way to script the combining of all the images? I don't want to have to spend hours slecting the layer mode individually in gimp
[22:30] <mcphail> mbucko: cron is a built-in program which you can configure to run other programs at certain times
[22:30] <Penguincsc> djskidd: try this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[22:31] <mbucko> mcphail, oh but id like to do it manually.. is there any script in ~ directory?
[22:31] <mcphail> mbucko: i'm not quite sure what you mean by that
[22:32] <Penguincsc> djskidd: this will give you a live USB you can use or install from
[22:33] <mbucko> mcphail, for example the system startup script is inittab or rc-something on ubuntu.. is there a script that gets called after a user logs in?
[22:34] <djskidd> Can KUbuntu run .deb packages?
[22:34] <djskidd> Oh well, Ubuntu it is.
[22:34] <Jordan_U> Guest10651: imagemagic would probably be the thing to look into.
[22:34] <mcphail> mbucko: there is no "univeral" way to launch things at login. Every dektop does it differently. For example, in unity you click th cogwheel in the top right corner and select startup applications
[22:35] <Jordan_U> djskidd: Yes, all of the flavors of Ubuntu use the same core, and thus handle packages the same way.
[22:35] <mcphail> mbucko: to be clear, do you mean startup as in when the system boots or startup as in when you log in to the gui?
[22:36] <Jordan_U> djskidd: The only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the default packages which come installed.
[22:36] <Penguincsc> mbucko: what are you trying to do?
[22:36] <mbucko> mcphail, when i log in to the gui
[22:37] <Penguincsc> djskidd: did you get the link?
[22:37] <djskidd> yeah\
[22:37] <Penguincsc> djskidd: cool
[22:37] <mbucko> Penguincsc, im trying to manually set some of my applications to start
[22:37] <mbucko> Penguincsc, at the login time
[22:38] <Guest10651> Jordan_U: I had a bit of a look at imagemagik and while there is a merge function, it just averages the 2 pictures. I suspect I will need a more complicated algorithm to get star trails
[22:38] <Penguincsc> mbucko: the best way is to add it to the Startup Programs
[22:38] <Penguincsc> mbucko: those are run every time you login
[22:39] <RAMM> hello guys,  im trying to find out what kind of RAM the desktop pc im using has. i booted from a live cd bceasue it doesnt have an hd
[22:39] <TimRiker> ok, debugged. for some reason /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.mysqld did not exist. I don't know what creates that, but it's not owned by any package and there's no useful error message anywhere if it does not exist.
[22:39] <Penguincsc> mbucko: you can add your own - not only the system defaults
[22:39] <dem0n> hey does anyone here by any chance have any idea on how to enlarge the image file (ubuntu.img) for ubuntu ARM distro (for android phones) so you can install more apps...my ubuntu arm image is 2gigs and i would like to increase it to 3gigs so that i can install more apps?
[22:40] <fmarier> i've just found a really strange bug and i'm having a hard time figuring out what package I should file it under: pressing the mute button on my usb headset steals the mouse focus.  any ideas?
[22:40] <Penguincsc> RAMM: do you mean - how much or what't the make and model of the chip?
[22:40] <TimRiker> dem0n, got another linux box? if so, create a new file of the right size, loop mount the old image, format the new image with the same filesystem, loop mount it, then copy all the data over.
[22:41] <TimRiker> dem0n, if it's ext3+ you may be able to resize it by appending to the image, then running resize2fs on it. I'd make a backup before trying any of this. :)
[22:41] <RAMM> penguincsc, it shows the amount in system monitor, though i want to know whether this is ddr-ram or sd-ram
[22:42] <vexaxv> does anyone use hulu desktop??
[22:42] <dem0n> there has to be a way to do it with the android os, and with the terminal emulator app...
[22:42] <TimRiker> vexaxv, I would assume that at least someone does. you might get more useful replies with a more detailed question.
[22:43] <vexaxv> TimRiker, yeah sorry long day so far
[22:43] <TimRiker> dem0n, hmm. got busybox installed on your android os? it should be able to do all that.
[22:43] <vexaxv> im using ubuntu 12.04 and i downloaded and installed hulu desktop and it worked for a while until i clicked the maximize button now everytime i start it up i get a big white screen across my whole screen then it shuts off
[22:44] <vexaxv> i have a hp pavilion dv7 3173 nr
[22:44] <mbucko> Penguincsc, i guess i could add a script to it and then from the script have more freedom ..?
[22:44] <TimRiker> vexaxv, I'd look for cached settings in a $HOME/.{something} file or directory. move that someplace else and see if it starts up again.
[22:44] <dem0n> TimRiker: i do have busybox installed..how would i do it with that?
[22:44] <Penguincsc> RAMM: sudo lshw -c memory
[22:45] <TimRiker> dem0n, got enough storage to handle both filesystem images?
[22:45] <Penguincsc> mbucko: you could - but it seems complicated
[22:45] <TimRiker> ie: is there 3g+ free on the native filesystem?
[22:45] <Penguincsc> mbucko: is this a one time add - or a daily task?
[22:46] <dem0n> TimIker: yes i just want to increase it like 500MB's... i have ubuntu on my harddrive for my phone (hd= 8gigs) and i have another linux distro on my sd card (sdcard=16gigs)
[22:46] <mbucko> Penguincsc, well one time.. more or less.. but it seems easier more portable..
[22:47] <dem0n> TimRiker: i actually have busybox pro (paid version) installed on my phone
[22:47] <Penguincsc> mbucko: whatever is convinient to you
[22:48] <nwilson5> imbezol, do you know if memtest can fail on one system and pass on another depending on the bios settings. i'm thoroughly confused with what's going on with this ram atm.
[22:48] <Penguincsc> mbucko: I'd just add the app to the Startup Programs - it's super easy
[22:48] <TimRiker> dem0n, cracks me up to see paid versions of open source apps. the "pro" version is broken in different ways, including not supporting dns in wget which annoys me.
[22:48] <nwilson5> i had 6 sticks memtest on my system, one of them failed didn't know which but had a guess. took it out/replaced it and memtest worked fine. The one I took out I tested on another system, and it passed
[22:49] <dem0n> TimRiker: good point =-P
[22:49] <dem0n> TimRiker: someone told me this might help: mknod /dev/zero c 1 5
[22:50] <dem0n> if my busybox has mknod..
[22:50] <dem0n> but i am not sure what that does
[22:50] <mbucko> Progster, what about apps that youd only want to run at certain run levels?
[22:50] <TimRiker> dem0n, ok,  busybox should have dd build in. with dd, you can create a new filesystem image. something like: ...
[22:50] <TimRiker> you should have a /dev/zero already. try ls -l /dev/zero and see what it says
[22:50] <dem0n> k
[22:51] <Penguincsc> dem0n: you should use a script from the CMW recovery
[22:51] <TimRiker> do you have the arm image mounted? if so, show me the line for it from "busybox mount".. I'm looking for the filesystem type. ext2, ext3 or ext4 most likely.
[22:51]  * Penguincsc is away
[22:52] <dem0n> ls -l /dev/zero
[22:52] <TimRiker> Penguincsc, is there one that resizes and existing image? that would be much easier than my having to explain the steps.... :)
[22:52] <mbucko> Progster, sorry wrong person
[22:52] <mbucko> Penguincsc,  what about apps that youd only want to run at certain run levels?
[22:52] <dem0n> crw-rw-rw root__ root 1, 5 2012,05,27 23:23 ZERO
[22:53] <TimRiker> dem0n, ZERO? not zero?
[22:53] <pooltable> hi help when i am on you tube i have a auto d not play extension installed but it still play when i do not push play how to fix
[22:53] <dem0n> no its zero
[22:53] <dem0n> i accidentally hit the caps button
[22:53] <pooltable> on firefox
[22:53] <mcphail> mbucko: Ubuntu doesn't bother much with runlevels. It isn't like redhat
[22:53] <TimRiker> ok. is your image mounted? find it in the output of "busybox mount" ?
[22:53] <dem0n> also when i did "which dd" on my android phone it says.. /system/bin/dd
[22:55] <dem0n> TimRiker: for busybox its just an installer and asks where to install the busybox /system/bin or /system/xbin
[22:55] <TimRiker> dem0n, not sure if the system dd does what we need. it probably does, but we need other tools from busybox like mkfs.ext2 that's not likely to be included in your base image.
[22:55] <TimRiker> dem0n, yes, but the "pro" version in the market installs and old somewhat poorly configured busybox.
[22:56] <TimRiker> s/and/an/
[22:56] <Jordan_U> dem0n: Where did you get this image file and why do you think you need to modify it from the phone itself rather than using a full Desktop install of Ubuntu to do the modification then copying the image over?
[22:56] <dem0n> i got the image file from one of the linux apps from the android market, i downloaded it and installed it
[22:57] <dem0n> TimRIker: i see i downloaded and instaled "busybox installer" but you are saying i
[22:57] <dem0n> i need actually busybox
[22:57] <pooltable> how to pause a pod cast on opera??
[22:57] <RAMM> penguincsc, thx. sudo dmidecode --type 17 also helped to show ram...
[22:57] <TimRiker> dem0n, don't work about it... if you have one someplace it's probably fine for what you want to do.
[22:57] <CokeAddict> wish there is a native linux netbeans version
[22:58] <CokeAddict> :(
[22:58] <muelli> pooltable: alt+f2, then "pkill -STOP opera"
[23:00] <pooltable> mueiil how to re start ?
[23:00] <muelli> pooltable: pkill -CONT opera
[23:00] <dem0n> ya i just want to be able to install more apps...and i am running out of space for ubuntu ARM, i am down to like 160MB's
[23:01] <dem0n> TimRiker: i really appreciate the assistance
[23:01] <TimRiker> dem0n, is your image mounted? what filesystem type is it?
[23:01] <pooltable> thanks is there a easy way ??
[23:01] <d-1337> how do I add something to the quicklinks in unity on 12.04?  I've tried the ule but it never sticks.  Isn't there just a config file somewhere I can edit in gedit or something?
[23:03] <muelli> d-1337: no idea. But I presume right click does some magic..? At least it doesn in GNOME Shell
[23:03] <curiousx> d-1337: drag and drop
[23:03] <curiousx> an icon
[23:04] <dem0n> TimRiker: i am not sure what kind of filesystem it is...i don't believe its mounted, i never had to
[23:04] <d-1337> neither of those did a thing
[23:04] <astropirate> I am trying to set up a Ubuntu web server. What is the best practice,  should I setup a different user for every server component (MongoDB, Node.js, Nginx etc)?
[23:04] <curiousx> or drag and drop an icon from /usr/share/applications/ to the unity bar
[23:04] <dem0n> TimRiker: i just run the shell script from the android terminal (sh ubuntu.sh) and it starts linux
[23:04] <d-1337> I drag.. drop.. and nothing happens
[23:05] <dem0n> TimRiker: then i load the vncserver (vncserver port 5091) and then i use androidvnc to connect to it and i have the lxde gui
[23:05] <curiousx> d-1337: Unity 3D?
[23:05] <d-1337> I suppose.  Its all default
[23:05] <Jordan_U> dem0n: Can you connect your phone to your computer and copy the image over to a Desktop machine? That will make things a lot easier as all the normal tools will be available.
[23:05] <d-1337> fresh install.  I haven't changed a thing
[23:06] <dem0n> Jordan_U: that may be a possibility
[23:06] <curiousx> d-1337: any windows error?
[23:06] <d-1337> nope
[23:07] <d-1337> just looks like a failure of programming to me...  although one would have assumed such a feature would have been programmed in there a long time ago
[23:07] <TimRiker> dem0n, when you run the shell script, it should mount the filesystem. while it's mounted (ie: running) then do a "busybox mount" and look for the image name.
[23:08] <nulldev> boo
[23:08] <TimRiker> dem0n, I've gotta take off so I'm not going to have time to finish this. in short: use dd to create a new image size, use mkfs.ext2 to format that image. loop mount the new image, use cp -a to copy all the old data into the new image. unmount both images, swap them, try your startup script again.
[23:09] <d-1337> isn't there a text/config file I can just edit without having to try and out think someone's failed effort at simplicity?
[23:09] <Jordan_U> dem0n: TimRiker: I would simply copy the image (so you have a backup), append zeroes to the end of it with dd, then use resize2fs to resize the filesytem for the new size.
[23:09]  * TimRiker hates unity
[23:10] <wo0f> TimRiker, what dont you like about it?
[23:10] <Jordan_U> dem0n: TimRiker: Though that assumes that it's just an extN fileystem image.
[23:10]  * curiousx love the video lens -.-
[23:10] <TimRiker> Jordan_U, you presume running on a desktop instead of on the phone itself. normally there is no resize2fs on the phone. hence the extra steps.
[23:10] <d-1337> agreed.   I'd never use it myself.  just cause I hate the idea of wasted screen space and only being able to see one program's menu bar at a time
[23:10] <Jordan_U> TimRiker: I asked earlier if copying the image to the Desktop was an option :)
[23:11] <nulldev> its not just unity most desktops are going poor
[23:11] <d-1337> but this is for a client...  setting up an old laptop of his to be nothing more than a computer to work on a project with.
[23:11] <TimRiker> wo0f, I like having one panel on the top of my screen and nothing else. I like being able to put what icons I like there. I like wobbly windows and 3d desktop. etc.
[23:11] <TimRiker> Jordan_U, :) so did I, but dem0n didn't reply to that. :)
[23:12] <d-1337> best to keep it simple as possible.
[23:12] <nulldev> simple is boring keep it eficient but exciting
[23:12] <wo0f> TimRiker, i feel the same, what do you use now?
[23:12] <wo0f> im using xfce
[23:13] <TimRiker> wo0f, unity just isn't customizable enough. I can't figure out how to get rid of the icons on the left. I want that real estate for my apps, not for a bar.
[23:13] <pooltable> XFCE here
[23:13] <wo0f> whats the best install
[23:13] <Chuck_Norris> d-1337: your issue is only yours, noone have the same issue that you have, all we just drag and drop icons into the bar
[23:13] <d-1337> I'm in love with how I set gnome 2 up 3 years ago...   but thinking of going to xfce for myself
[23:13] <wo0f> ubuntu and add xubuntu rependancies or install from xubuntu?
[23:14] <TimRiker> wo0f, I'm running gnome-classic with compiz and missing the clearlooks theme. radiance is lame. I hate brown. give me a readable blue theme please.
[23:14] <d-1337> chuck:  thanks..  that at least tells me something
[23:14] <Chuck_Norris> d-1337: try gnome shell if you want: http://i.imgur.com/LUHZv.jpg
[23:14] <pooltable> i just add it
[23:14] <nulldev> gnome 2,* FTW
[23:15] <wo0f> i happen to like the differnce in color TimRiker, but unity seems like a right stitch up
[23:15] <pooltable> in opera with pod cast how do i know how long it is ?
[23:15] <wo0f> too bulky as you say
[23:15] <nulldev> .
[23:15] <wo0f> the search is p cool tho
[23:16] <nulldev> xfce is a cool window manager
[23:17] <Harris> anybody know a good face reconization way to login to ubuntu 12.04
[23:17] <TimRiker> I may try xfce again. gnome-classic is worse than the old gnome. switching between apps using the taskbar does not always switch. dragging windows to another desktop often does not work, etc. unity is lame, and gnome-classic is broken in many ways. I wonder what debian desktops look like these days.
[23:17] <nulldev> its not a desktop but then again do we need desktop on Linux?
[23:17] <TimRiker> wo0f, I'm not in favor of forcing blue as a color, but currently brown seems to be enforced. that's what I don't like. lack of choice.
[23:18] <Etherael> Just rebooted, there is no longer a windows entry in my startup menu, what gives?
[23:18] <Harris> anybody know a good face reconization way to login to Ubuntu 12.04
[23:18] <TimRiker> I run linux as my primary desktop and have for 10+ years now.
[23:18] <dem0n> TimRiker: okay so you want me to run linux on my phone and then load busybox and see what the file system is?
[23:18] <wo0f> TimRiker, well put
[23:18] <Chuck_Norris> WoOh: ye, and Unity will become more lightweight in 12.10 there will no unity 2D but Unity 3D will work fine in accelerated or not accelerated graphic card
[23:19] <wo0f> TimRiker, i dont understand why theyre rewriting that wheel
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Chuck_Norris: indeed, it doesn't run bad here
[23:19] <nulldev> ethareal bill gates puts it in the windows boot loader so that evryone whoe tries linux hates it ( thats thee kernel contributions lol)
[23:19] <TimRiker> Chuck_Norris, will I be able to turn off everything but one panel and customize what's on that panel? (oh, and wobbly windows?)
[23:19] <Chuck_Norris> ActionParsnip: me neither, (intel 128) dual core 2.0 Ghz :D
[23:19] <Harris> anybody know a good face reconization way to login to Ubuntu 12.04
[23:20] <pooltable> on upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 I know 12.04 Is LTS so is it wise to go to 12.10 ?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Chuck_Norris: 3Gb RAM, dual core 1.2Ghz 32bit, Intel junk GPU
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: its not even Alpha1 yet, so unless you are good at fixing your own system I wouldn't bother
[23:20] <TimRiker> pooltable, depends what you want to do. production server? no. testing desktop? perhaps.
[23:20] <Harris> anybody know a good face reconization way to login to Ubuntu 12.04
[23:20] <dem0n> TimRiker: how do i find the filesystem with busybox?
[23:20] <d-1337> It is wise to wait a month or two before upgrading to the next version.. regardless
[23:20] <Chuck_Norris> TimRiker: really idk but i just read that news weeks ago =P
[23:21] <TimRiker> dem0n, "busybox mount"
[23:21] <Etherael> 12.04, just rebooted the computer, grub no longer includes my windows partition, how do I get it to rebuild the grub conf from the ground up and fix this?
[23:21] <TimRiker> or "cat /proc/mounts" :)
[23:21] <Etherael> Nothing changed.
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> Etherael: sudo update-grub
[23:21] <pooltable> actionparsnip i know just a basic question
[23:21] <wo0f> TimRiker, what do you do for games?
[23:21] <dem0n> TimRiker: Mount System R/W or Mount Sytem Read-Only
[23:22] <TimRiker> wo0f, trick question? (/me is the maintainer of BZFlag)
[23:22] <Etherael> ActionParsnip, It's just hanging on the commandline after entering password.
[23:22] <nulldev> actionparsnip thats a super computer to what Linux can run on
[23:22] <wo0f> TimRiker, in which case i salut you sir
[23:23] <wo0f> TimRiker, why have so many games been written with directX :'(
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> nulldev: its struggles with most flash stuff and gets hot
[23:23] <dem0n> TimRiker: and then when i click on the "Mount System R/W" it gives a bunch of options -> 1. Mount System R/W  2. Run Script,  3. Edit Script,  4. Delete Script,  5 Set at boot
[23:23] <nulldev> because windows own the market
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> Etherael: let it run :)
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> nulldev: Its a dell D420
[23:23] <Etherael> ActionParsnip, How long is it going to take?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Etherael: as long as it takes dude, let it play
[23:24] <nulldev> actionparsnip clean your fans :)
[23:24] <Harris> anybody know a  face reconization way to login to Ubuntu 12.04 and how to install/set it up
[23:24] <nwilson5> sorry imbezol , ignore my last statement. i left the test running on another system and it did fail as i expected it to so no ambiguity anymore.
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> nulldev: might do actually, its a POS though. Noy bought a new PC in years and years
[23:25] <daaaan> is there a way to export a variable from a pre-start script into the script stanza
[23:25] <pooltable> harris look here www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/05/face-authentication-face-recognition.html
[23:25] <Etherael> ActionParsnip, /usr/sbin/grub-probe --target=device / running three times and unkillable.
[23:26] <nulldev> daaaan output > outputfile
[23:26] <daaaan> heh, that's what i was trying to avoid
[23:26] <nulldev> mistyped
[23:27] <Jorsch> hey everyone. having an issue with xrdp. trying to connect from windows, worked fine until I tried to connect from outside my network. now when i try to connect, i just get a black screen and nothing else! reinstalled xrdp, no luck. ubuntu 12.04. any suggestions?
[23:27] <nulldev> no wasnt
[23:27] <OerHeks> pooltable, that ppa is out of date, not for 12.04 precise  ( i was checking http://askubuntu.com/questions/83426/login-via-face-detection )
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Etherael: if it doesn't end soon, use  kill -9    to nuke them
[23:28] <Harris> pooltable,  this is the outcomes of the first code http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1013905/
[23:28] <pooltable> oerheks i just goggle it real quick did not read it
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> Jorsch: how fast is your internet upload speed?
[23:28] <nulldev> kill -9 && dd /
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> Jorsch: what are you connecting to the system to achieve?
[23:28] <Jorsch> ActionParsnip: well i am on the same net work now and no luck
[23:28] <Jorsch> but it is 5M up
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> nulldev: what is 'dd /' for?
[23:28] <Cerrdor> anyone have experience setting up Unreal IRCd and Anope?
[23:28] <nulldev> to wipe
[23:28] <Cerrdor> on Buntu
[23:28] <Jorsch> ActionParsnip: general usage; been working for a month but just "stopped"
[23:29] <dem0n> i had no idea that increase the image file size was going to be this difficult
[23:29] <Harris> pooltable, this is the second http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1013907/
[23:29] <Harris> see it doesnt work
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> Jorsch: most apps have web UIs you know, and SSH is great if you just want to update...
[23:29] <Jorsch> ActionParsnip: okay, i want to fix xrdp though!
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Jorsch: not something I use personally, maybe a router reboot
[23:30] <pooltable> harris sorry i was try to help you
[23:31] <Vooloo> how can I see what applications are sending out data over my eth?
[23:31] <vexaxv> out of curiosity i noticed a long time ago that the new chrome os and android was linux, so why is it companies like netflix who say NO to linux, but yes to other platforms not labeled "linux" but they are linux support em?
[23:32] <harris_> it doesnt work have any other ideas
[23:32] <UBuxuBU> why ask why
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> vexaxv: why not ask them directly.
[23:32] <vexaxv> just curious, it sounds like someone is on the payroll, i cant think of ANY other explanation
[23:32] <nulldev> vexaxv either thee devs are told to or dont even consider Linux the variable that there check runs against returns an error
[23:32] <vexaxv> i planned too i just thought id ask here first lol
[23:33] <vexaxv> i know im asking why are they told no, why are we told no, while they support other linux systems
[23:33] <vexaxv> just not "linux"
[23:34] <KRomo> hi all
[23:34] <harris_> How to Login With Your Face not using pam
[23:34] <mohamez> i saved an .iso file of an original CD whit poweriso, but when i mount it an error occurs tell me to insert the original CD. how can i open the .iso file ?
[23:35] <KRomo> what software can I use to burn AN .ISO TO A FLASH DRIVE?
[23:35] <KRomo> sorry for caps
[23:35] <nulldev> vexaxv basically a if [ $distro == linux ] ; then ; echo "Your system isnt supprted"
[23:35] <zykotick9> KRomo: is it a 12.04 install image?
[23:35] <KRomo> no
[23:36] <KRomo> its A Chromium iso
[23:36] <zykotick9> KRomo: is it an install iso or some sort?
[23:36] <vexaxv> nulldev, so because we have so many distros
[23:36] <harris_> How to Login into ubuntu With Your Face
[23:36] <zykotick9> KRomo: chromium the browser?  needs an iso?
[23:36] <KRomo> chromium os
[23:36] <zykotick9> KRomo: you could try unetbootin perhaps
[23:36] <Chuck_Norris> if [ $distro != linux ] ; then ; echo "Your system isnt supprted" =D
[23:37] <nulldev> vexaxv no because we are free and threatining ms$ who arent
[23:37] <vexaxv> well yeah thats what i was getting at..
[23:37] <vexaxv> its agrivating
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: unetbootin
[23:37] <vexaxv> did ms finish buying out skype
[23:38] <nulldev> vexaxv it is but fight against it instead of getting frustrated
[23:38] <KRomo> At the shell, run the following (where sdX is your USB stick and ChromeOS.img is the path to the IMG file you extracted): dd if=ChromeOS.img of=/dev/sdX bs=4M
[23:38] <beandog> Chuck_Norris: wouldn't that be the other way around?
[23:38] <nulldev> vexaxv the cracker community have
[23:38] <vexaxv> trust me i look for anyway i can help
[23:38] <Pici> I don't see what this has to do with Ubuntu vexaxv.
[23:39] <nulldev> pici ubuntu is Linux
[23:39] <vexaxv> ubuntu is linux and linux doesent get to use specific softwares that other forms of linux do like android
[23:39] <vexaxv> or chrome os
[23:39] <Pici> vexaxv: this channel is for the support of Ubuntu only, not discussion of linux related things.
[23:39] <OerHeks> harris_, PAM = Pluggable Authentication Modules, so i think no other authentication tru face exists , this google code is buggy too > http://code.google.com/p/pam-face-authentication/
[23:39] <Pici> !offtopic
[23:39] <vexaxv> for example i just saw the netflix deal how they said no to linux
[23:39] <nulldev> and open source support open source and Linux against microsoft!
[23:39] <mintupdan> does ubuntu have a 'notifiy me when you fix the stupid shit' service?
[23:40] <vexaxv> okay..in that case im talking about why ubuntu doesent have support from netflix and other softwares
[23:40] <harris_> OerHeks, when i try to install pam it gets error messages
[23:40] <mintupdan> i like unity but it just dont work folks
[23:40] <vexaxv> BECAUSE OF MS!! or some other stupid payroll crap
[23:40] <vexaxv> even though for the millionth time other forms of linux do
[23:40] <KRomo> unity is the best
[23:41] <Pici> vexaxv: Again, this is not a discussion channel. If you have a specific Ubuntu software question, feel free to ask, but other discussion belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere.
[23:41] <vexaxv> KRomo, i like unity lol
[23:41] <nulldev> vexaxv ubuntu must have I run that on Gentoo
[23:41] <OerHeks> harris_, yes, i know.
[23:41] <KRomo> i love unity much
[23:41] <vexaxv> nulldev, huh?
[23:41] <vexaxv> nulldev, what are you talkin about?
[23:42] <nulldev> vexaxv sorry wrong window
[23:42] <harris_> OerHeks, what was i supposed to do on that link that was kubuntu
[23:42] <Jorsch> ActionParsnip: turns out xrdp didn't like me passing in the domain. leaving that blank works fine.
[23:42] <vexaxv> nulldev, ah, np
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> Jorsch: sweet
[23:42] <Jorsch> tx
[23:43] <bluefox83> ok, the login screen keeps kicking me out after putting my password in. there is no error for a bad password, it just kicks me back to the login screen. I fixed this before but don't remember how. anyone?
[23:43] <nulldev> vexaxv a way around it though is to spoof your browser which isnt to hard
[23:43] <vexaxv> nulldev, i pm'd u
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: how much free space do you have?
[23:43] <OerHeks> harris, told you it is buggy, and it is not for kubuntu only.
[23:43] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: 38 gigs
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 and log in there is it ok?
[23:44] <harris_> OerHeks,  i cant understand him please tell me what to type
[23:44] <bluefox83> how do you think i got here?
[23:44] <OerHeks> harris_, dunno
[23:44] <d-1337> got it to work..  apparently it will only allow .desktop files to be added..  retarded pos
[23:45] <d-1337> wish it just grabbed those files from a folder like a normal launcher
[23:45] <IdleOne> d-1337: please mind your language
[23:45] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: works fine to press ctrl alt f1 so i know it's like a gnome file or something...i just don't recall which ones
[23:46] <Guest71182> hola
[23:46] <Chuck_Norris> hola
[23:46]  * d-1337 thought he was...
[23:46] <Chuck_Norris> !es | Guest71182
[23:46] <Celso_> hi all! people, i need to know how do i prevent something to turn on on ubuntu 12.04. imagine that i want to prevent my graphics card to getting on when i boot ubuntu. what should i do?
[23:46] <harushimo> I want to run vmware esxi on ubuntu 12.04.  Is it possible?
[23:47] <harushimo> !vmware
[23:48] <DMASS> Has anyone else had firewall/ssh issues after updating a fresh 12.04 server install?
[23:48] <funnyfingers> harushimo esxi is its own os and hypervisor
[23:48] <lacrymology> how do I install (or check if they are already installed) the usbnet modules in my kernel?
[23:48] <funnyfingers> So no you can't install esxi on any other platform at all.
[23:48] <harushimo> really?
[23:48] <robotdevil> what is the best firefox plugin for watching video steams/embedded video on webpages?
[23:48] <harushimo> I didn't know that
[23:49] <funnyfingers> harushimo you install it by itself very easily.
[23:49] <harushimo> !vmware
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: sure, or you can use virtualbox etc
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: flash probably
[23:49] <harushimo> I am using virtual box
[23:50] <[snake]> Can someone answer a quick question I have about gcc? (Here it is): what does the -Wall option(s) mean that I see so often almost everywhere.
[23:50] <harushimo> I heard esxi is 64 bit natively while virtual box is 32 bit
[23:50] <robotdevil> ActionParsnip: no, I mean for quicktime and all that
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> [snake]: read:   man gxx
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: ah, there are a few, none are 'best'
[23:50] <Celso_> hi all! people, i need to know how do i prevent something to turn on on ubuntu 12.04. imagine that i want to prevent my graphics card to getting on when i boot ubuntu. what should i do?
[23:50] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: any idea how to get me past my gnome login window? if i recall correctly there is a file locking it but i don't remember which one...
[23:50] <DMASS> weve been using the free version of esxi and its really nice
[23:50] <[snake]> ActionParsnip, perhaps you meant gcc.
[23:51] <d-1337> another 12.04 unity question:  How do I change the number of virtual desktops?
[23:51] <DMASS> tried forever to get KVM to work properly but never succeeded
[23:51] <bluefox83> Celso_: add the driver for the card to the blacklist
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: mozilla-plugin-vlc  is an option
[23:51] <Celso_> i already did and updated the initramfs but is still on.
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> [snake]: that too
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: not sure, make sure you are the owner of all the files in $HOME can help too
[23:52] <robotdevil> ActionParsnip: doesnt seem to get everything. Very surprised as vlc stand alone plays everything
[23:52] <Celso_> bluefox83: i tryied to blacklist the radeon and the fglrx driver but still on.
[23:52] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: i am...
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> [snake]: seems to mean warn on all
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: it can play as much as the other players you can install
[23:53] <bluefox83> calexnk: did you unload the driver?
[23:53] <lopnut1971> i have a lexmark z23 printer, however when i try to install the .sh i found on lexmarks site the installer will fail halfway through, any ideas?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> lopnut1971: does it come with some deb files?
[23:54] <robotdevil> ActionParsnip: you mean *plugins I install
[23:54] <bluefox83> lopnut1971: ive never heard a good thing about a lexmark printer, i strongly suggest returning it and getting an HP
[23:54] <Celso_> Bluefox83: how do i unload them?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: yes, all the players will access the central store for plugins, so VLC will play as many media types as any, as they all use the same codecs
[23:54] <lopnut1971> ActionParsnip, lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh
[23:54] <nulldev> dot matrix were worse than lexmark
[23:54] <Celso_> ops, wasnt for me
[23:54] <bluefox83> Celso_: sudo modprobe -r *modulename*
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> lopnut1971: sudo lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh
[23:55] <lopnut1971> tried
[23:55] <Celso_> thanks Bluefox83
[23:55] <[snake]> ActionParsnip, I got it "man gcc | grep Wall" thanks!
[23:55] <Golfgeo> Hi all
[23:55] <bluefox83> np Celso_
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> lopnut1971: tried redownloading the file and MD5 testing both?
[23:55] <Benkinooby> hi, atm i use a ubuntu 10.04 based on a minimal install, and fluxbox as gui. if i would install ubuntu 12.04 with the same setup, would there be any notable performace cahnges?
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> [snake]: like it :D
[23:55] <lopnut1971> ActionParsnip, i can try redownloading.. but
[23:56] <lopnut1971> i don't know how much good it'll do, but for the heck of it
[23:56] <stef1a> Hi. I'm using 12.04 on a HP ProBook 4535s. I cannot control the brightness of my screen from the "Brightness and Lock" manager, as there is no slider (see http://i.imgur.com/V5KdI.png). I have tried editing my grub config files and adding the acpi-vendor and linux lines. I can now control the brightness via fn + f2/f3, but only a bit, and it's still buggy -- the brightness changes whenever I navigate to a new page in Chrome, for instance.
[23:56] <KRomo> is shell and terminal the same thing?
[23:56] <lopnut1971> KRomo, no
[23:56] <Golfgeo> got a question... Have a UVC webcam here (logitec pro 9000) and I'm hoping there is an controll application for it... Show's up very dark while the cam can do beter under these conditions...
[23:56] <KRomo> how do i run something in the shell?
[23:56] <lopnut1971> KRomo, a terminal is like a client for the shell to run in, there are many types of shells such as cshell and zshell
[23:56] <KRomo> can i pm you?
[23:56] <Celso_> Bluefox83 :it says: module not found
[23:56] <lopnut1971> naw, kinda busy
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Golfgeo: is it ok in cheese?
[23:57] <KRomo> ok
[23:57] <KRomo> thx anyway
[23:57] <bluefox83> Celso_: show me how you entered it
[23:57] <robotdevil> ActionParsnip: on the stand alone side of things, is there a benefit to having mplayer2 installed instead of plain mplayer. I use smplayer once in awhile and in didnt seem to install mplayer2.
[23:57] <Golfgeo> ActionParsnip: Haven't tried it with that... MS driver gives controll app where I need to switch an option...
[23:57] <Celso_> Bluefox83 : withe the sudo first then modprobe -r radeon
[23:57] <robotdevil> and it*
[23:57] <nulldev> a shell is an enviroment a terminal is an emulated enviroment of the shell
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> Golfgeo: you aren't using windows now dude :)
[23:58] <bluefox83> Celso_: cut and paste it pls
[23:58] <bluefox83> *please
[23:58] <Celso_> Bluefox83 : sudo modprobe -r fglrx
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: not used mplayer too, I use gnome-mplayer though
[23:58] <Golfgeo> ActionParsnip: Know that haha Debian fan here... But for my servers eh ;) Installing cheese right now
[23:58] <Celso_> Bluefox83 : sudo modprobe -r radeon
[23:58] <Celso_> Bluefox83 : all guived the same
[23:59] <bluefox83> ok, that means it's not laoded
[23:59] <bluefox83> *loaded
[23:59] <Celso_> Bluefox83 : radeon module not found
[23:59] <harris_> how do i download a app in the software center that lets me login to ubuntu 12.04 using my face and my webcam
[23:59] <bluefox83> if you do lsmod | grep radeon   does anything show up?
[23:59] <Celso_> nop
[23:59] <Celso_> Bluefox83 : nop