| micahg | ochosi: will look at scrollback | 05:25 |
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| ochosi | micahg: hey, so a quick summary of the proposed changes for gmb in debian/ubuntu: | 06:14 |
| ochosi | 1) remove mpg321/ogg123/flac123 from depends | 06:14 |
| ochosi | 2) move libgstreamer-perl from recommends to depends | 06:14 |
| ochosi | 3) add libintl-perl to recommends (or depends) | 06:14 |
| ochosi | (mpg321 recommands libaudio-scrobbler-perl which depends on libwww-perl which depends on lots of perl libraries that are not used by gmb) | 06:14 |
| ochosi | micahg: ^ | 06:15 |
| micahg | all sounds fine | 06:18 |
| ochosi | micahg: ok cool, would you forward that? | 06:19 |
| micahg | forward where? | 06:19 |
| ochosi | to the debian maintainer | 06:20 |
| ochosi | or wait, are you the debian maintainer? :) | 06:20 |
| micahg | alessio's been making the changes as of late and I still don't have a key in alioth | 06:22 |
| ochosi | ok, are you in touch with him or shall i try to get a hold of him? | 06:22 |
| micahg | you can probably reach him in #debian-multimedia on oftc | 06:25 |
| ochosi | ok, thanks, i'll try that | 06:26 |
| ochosi | micahg: his nick is simply alessio? | 06:27 |
| micahg | yeah | 06:27 |
| ochosi | ok, thanks, i'll try to hang in there :) | 06:27 |
| ochosi | are you very busy atm? i have a xubuntu packaging question | 06:28 |
| * micahg isn't feeling well and about to go to bed | 06:42 | |
| ochosi | oh, in that case it can wait | 06:42 |
| ochosi | get well again soon! | 06:42 |
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| astraljava | ochosi: The changes for gmb are done. | 09:16 |
| ochosi | astraljava: you mean in debian? | 09:16 |
| astraljava | Yup. | 09:16 |
| ochosi | alessio was kind enough to send me an email about it :) | 09:17 |
| astraljava | He rawks. | 09:17 |
| ochosi | but thanks :) | 09:17 |
| ochosi | astraljava: do you feel like coding a bit? | 09:17 |
| astraljava | Later this evening, sure. I'm on support duty at work, so can't do it until I get spare time. | 09:18 |
| ochosi | sure, no hurry | 09:19 |
| astraljava | What did you have in mind? | 09:19 |
| ochosi | i was just generally thinking about the video-player for xubuntu roadmap item again... | 09:19 |
| astraljava | Ok. | 09:19 |
| ochosi | and i'm afraid that audience will not be a perfect choice due to the clutter-dependency | 09:19 |
| ochosi | it's not very smooth on all computers | 09:19 |
| ochosi | and i'm not sure we really want that | 09:19 |
| ochosi | so there are several courses of action | 09:20 |
| astraljava | Right, I have no experience but I'll take your word on it. | 09:20 |
| ochosi | well, even with my nvidia card i didn't have a 100% smooth experience | 09:20 |
| ochosi | so i don't even wanna think about people without dedicated graphics | 09:20 |
| astraljava | Sounds sub-optimal. | 09:21 |
| ochosi | one course of action is to improve parole | 09:21 |
| ochosi | it's not _that_ bad, but it desperately needs an interface-refresh | 09:21 |
| ochosi | or we can look for alternatives | 09:21 |
| ochosi | no clue whether this would be interesting for u-studio guys as well | 09:21 |
| astraljava | Totem has been there, I believe, but we could talk. I just use vlc. | 09:22 |
| ochosi | vlc is not an option due to qt | 09:22 |
| astraljava | I know, and will not try to get it as a default app. | 09:23 |
| ochosi | and totem, well, i haven't looked at the dependencies yet | 09:23 |
| astraljava | But it's something I always install, along with chrome, vim and t-bird. :) | 09:23 |
| ochosi | mhm | 09:24 |
| ochosi | yeah, vlc is maybe the best media player out there | 09:24 |
| astraljava | I'm afraid totem is not very fitting for us. | 09:24 |
| astraljava | But yeah, who knows. | 09:24 |
| ochosi | yeah, personally i'd rather not use totem... | 09:24 |
| ochosi | problem with refreshing parole is that its code uses an ancient version of glade | 09:26 |
| ochosi | i'm not proficient in these things, but it might even be that a rewrite is better :/ | 09:26 |
| astraljava | Probably. I've used glade a small eternity ago. :) | 09:27 |
| ochosi | so anyway, i don't know what would be more work. what i somehow would prefer would be a tiny, yet functional player in gtk3/vala | 09:28 |
| ochosi | or c | 09:28 |
| astraljava | Well I wouldn't write another player myself, but I'm willing to enhance an existing one that we'd choose to promote. | 09:29 |
| astraljava | There's already way too much "from scratch" mentality in the linux community. :) | 09:30 |
| ochosi | yeah, i agree | 09:30 |
| ochosi | i mean porting parole would be just as good :) | 09:30 |
| Unit193 | And a lot of forking... | 09:30 |
| ochosi | i already made several mockups for how i would simplify its UI | 09:31 |
| laite | how do you feel about some mplayer-interfaces? e.g. gnome-mplayer | 09:31 |
| astraljava | ochosi: I could go with that, sounds good if you have existing plans already. | 09:32 |
| ochosi | astraljava: yes, it's not that i dislike parole, i actually use it every now and then. | 09:32 |
| ochosi | laite: haven't really used them yet | 09:32 |
| ochosi | laite: i'm wondering though why it _depends_ on ligpod | 09:34 |
| laite | personally I use mainly smplayer, due to it's ability to search subtitles (with good success rate) straight from program | 09:35 |
| laite | it's qt-based | 09:35 |
| Unit193 | qt was part of the reason to cut out VLC. | 09:36 |
| knome | Qt is not happening, really | 09:36 |
| ochosi | astraljava: this is/was the plan: http://wiki.xfce.org/design/parole-ui | 09:51 |
| ochosi | astraljava: there were also actual mockups of parole's UI, not just the textual description | 09:51 |
| knome | "were"? | 09:53 |
| ochosi | well, they're not in the xfce wiki for some reason, although i thought they were there | 09:53 |
| knome | :| | 09:53 |
| ochosi | so maybe they got removed or something | 09:53 |
| ochosi | i dunno | 09:53 |
| ochosi | i should still have them at home | 09:53 |
| ochosi | and i still know what i had in mind, so no biggy | 09:53 |
| knome | heh | 09:53 |
| laite | is there no option for having subtitles in parole? | 09:57 |
| laite | doesn't matter for me so much, but might be an issue to some | 09:58 |
| ochosi | yeah, it's not 100% feature-complete | 09:59 |
| ochosi | bbl | 10:03 |
| astraljava | ochosi: Thanks, I'll ask for the mock-ups when I get to actual implementation phase. | 10:41 |
| bluesabre-laptop | astraljava: I look forward to testing that! Especially if you get subtitle support working' | 11:08 |
| ochosi | astraljava: cool, i'll take a quick look whether i can find the mockup/s | 11:47 |
| ochosi | astraljava: ok, uploaded one of the mockups to the xfce design wiki page: https://wiki.xfce.org/design/parole-ui | 11:51 |
| laite | that looks really nice =) | 11:53 |
| ochosi | thanks | 11:53 |
| ochosi | it's just a cleanup, nothing special ;) | 11:54 |
| knome | the xubuntu blueprints are being handled by skaet right now | 16:08 |
| knome | mr_pouit, ^ | 16:08 |
| mr_pouit | yep, my mailbox agrees :P | 16:40 |
| mr_pouit | thanks ;-) | 16:40 |
| knome | np | 16:40 |
| * knome just added a lot of work items for the blueprints, please add more if you think something obvious is missing (if you are unsure of the assignee, set a team, like xubuntu-art, as the assignee, or if you are still unsure, set xubuntu-team) | 19:01 | |
| knome | madnick, what's the status of the lightdm settings gui? | 19:04 |
| madnick | knome: hm, the gui exists, some functionality exists, but iirc its rather incomplete in terms of config getting | 19:10 |
| knome | madnick, do you think it's realistic to get that done for q? | 19:10 |
| knome | madnick, i mean, should i just repostpone, or should we try? | 19:10 |
| madnick | its probably the easiest thing to do (if they have not changed it entirely) | 19:10 |
| madnick | of all the things | 19:10 |
| knome | madnick, also, look at the "new plymouth/lightdm theme" -blueprints | 19:11 |
| knome | and add any items you see fit | 19:11 |
| knome | or that you need from others | 19:11 |
| knome | okay, then let's keep the work items for now | 19:11 |
| madnick | will do | 19:11 |
| knome | thanks | 19:11 |
| madnick | who will provide art btw? | 19:11 |
| madnick | ochosi? | 19:11 |
| knome | i added xubuntu-art for that | 19:11 |
| knome | so ochosi or me probably | 19:11 |
| madnick | okay | 19:11 |
| knome | you can use the xubuntu-art team for artwork stuff where you are unsure | 19:12 |
| madnick | You (i think) was talking about just modifying the ubuntu greeter? | 19:13 |
| madnick | unity greeter* | 19:13 |
| knome | umm, i was talking about maintaining that in addition ;] | 19:13 |
| madnick | hehe | 19:14 |
| knome | i think it was ochosi if you have talked about just modifying that | 19:14 |
| madnick | ah okay | 19:14 |
| knome | but that's not the most important thing | 19:14 |
| knome | we can sort that out later | 19:14 |
| knome | we need to get the work items in shape for thursday | 19:14 |
| knome | so we are able to track progess more meaningfully | 19:14 |
| knome | plus, that's the feature definition freeze day | 19:14 |
| knome | ;) | 19:14 |
| knome | i don't think we will be completely done, but it's good to at least try | 19:15 |
| knome | (that's why i'm on the blueprints/work items now!) | 19:15 |
| madnick | you know the greeter theme for 8.04? | 19:16 |
| madnick | I sorta like the simplicity of that | 19:16 |
| knome | http://www.screenshots-archive.com/files/images/02_logon_screen_0.png that? | 19:17 |
| knome | or are you maybe referring to http://www.generation-linux.fr/public/avr09/gdm_xubuntu.png ? | 19:17 |
| knome | i'd love something like the latter (again) ! | 19:17 |
| knome | [knome] take more nature-photograps: TODO | 19:18 |
| knome | ;) | 19:18 |
| madnick | i was talking about the first one, but the second one is even better in simplicity (if one centers that menu) | 19:18 |
| knome | i'm running out | 19:18 |
| madnick | top menu | 19:18 |
| knome | i don't think anything should be necessarily centered | 19:19 |
| knome | but we can look at that :) | 19:19 |
| madnick | hehe | 19:19 |
| madnick | i have tons of pictures i took when i was flying helicopter up in the mountains up north | 19:20 |
| madnick | but they are poor quality, good res tho, if one manipulated them, it might look good | 19:21 |
| madnick | think 12mp camera | 19:21 |
| knome | madnick, bad quality doesn't matter really | 19:33 |
| knome | madnick, i can give you an example later today | 19:33 |
| knome | bbl | 19:33 |
| sadin | knome Fedora17 just pushed out! | 19:37 |
| sadin | im upgrading then getting back to work on the icons for you :D | 19:37 |
| knome | sadin, congrats | 19:58 |
| knome | micahg, ? | 20:50 |
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