[05:25] ochosi: will look at scrollback [06:14] micahg: hey, so a quick summary of the proposed changes for gmb in debian/ubuntu: [06:14] 1) remove mpg321/ogg123/flac123 from depends [06:14] 2) move libgstreamer-perl from recommends to depends [06:14] 3) add libintl-perl to recommends (or depends) [06:14] (mpg321 recommands libaudio-scrobbler-perl which depends on libwww-perl which depends on lots of perl libraries that are not used by gmb) [06:15] micahg: ^ [06:18] all sounds fine [06:19] micahg: ok cool, would you forward that? [06:19] forward where? [06:20] to the debian maintainer [06:20] or wait, are you the debian maintainer? :) [06:22] alessio's been making the changes as of late and I still don't have a key in alioth [06:22] ok, are you in touch with him or shall i try to get a hold of him? [06:25] you can probably reach him in #debian-multimedia on oftc [06:26] ok, thanks, i'll try that [06:27] micahg: his nick is simply alessio? [06:27] yeah [06:27] ok, thanks, i'll try to hang in there :) [06:28] are you very busy atm? i have a xubuntu packaging question [06:42] * micahg isn't feeling well and about to go to bed [06:42] oh, in that case it can wait [06:42] get well again soon! === meetingology` is now known as meetingology [09:16] ochosi: The changes for gmb are done. [09:16] astraljava: you mean in debian? [09:16] Yup. [09:17] alessio was kind enough to send me an email about it :) [09:17] He rawks. [09:17] but thanks :) [09:17] astraljava: do you feel like coding a bit? [09:18] Later this evening, sure. I'm on support duty at work, so can't do it until I get spare time. [09:19] sure, no hurry [09:19] What did you have in mind? [09:19] i was just generally thinking about the video-player for xubuntu roadmap item again... [09:19] Ok. [09:19] and i'm afraid that audience will not be a perfect choice due to the clutter-dependency [09:19] it's not very smooth on all computers [09:19] and i'm not sure we really want that [09:20] so there are several courses of action [09:20] Right, I have no experience but I'll take your word on it. [09:20] well, even with my nvidia card i didn't have a 100% smooth experience [09:20] so i don't even wanna think about people without dedicated graphics [09:21] Sounds sub-optimal. [09:21] one course of action is to improve parole [09:21] it's not _that_ bad, but it desperately needs an interface-refresh [09:21] or we can look for alternatives [09:21] no clue whether this would be interesting for u-studio guys as well [09:22] Totem has been there, I believe, but we could talk. I just use vlc. [09:22] vlc is not an option due to qt [09:23] I know, and will not try to get it as a default app. [09:23] and totem, well, i haven't looked at the dependencies yet [09:23] But it's something I always install, along with chrome, vim and t-bird. :) [09:24] mhm [09:24] yeah, vlc is maybe the best media player out there [09:24] I'm afraid totem is not very fitting for us. [09:24] But yeah, who knows. [09:24] yeah, personally i'd rather not use totem... [09:26] problem with refreshing parole is that its code uses an ancient version of glade [09:26] i'm not proficient in these things, but it might even be that a rewrite is better :/ [09:27] Probably. I've used glade a small eternity ago. :) [09:28] so anyway, i don't know what would be more work. what i somehow would prefer would be a tiny, yet functional player in gtk3/vala [09:28] or c [09:29] Well I wouldn't write another player myself, but I'm willing to enhance an existing one that we'd choose to promote. [09:30] There's already way too much "from scratch" mentality in the linux community. :) [09:30] yeah, i agree [09:30] i mean porting parole would be just as good :) [09:30] And a lot of forking... [09:31] i already made several mockups for how i would simplify its UI [09:31] how do you feel about some mplayer-interfaces? e.g. gnome-mplayer [09:32] ochosi: I could go with that, sounds good if you have existing plans already. [09:32] astraljava: yes, it's not that i dislike parole, i actually use it every now and then. [09:32] laite: haven't really used them yet [09:34] laite: i'm wondering though why it _depends_ on ligpod [09:35] personally I use mainly smplayer, due to it's ability to search subtitles (with good success rate) straight from program [09:35] it's qt-based [09:36] qt was part of the reason to cut out VLC. [09:36] Qt is not happening, really [09:51] astraljava: this is/was the plan: http://wiki.xfce.org/design/parole-ui [09:51] astraljava: there were also actual mockups of parole's UI, not just the textual description [09:53] "were"? [09:53] well, they're not in the xfce wiki for some reason, although i thought they were there [09:53] :| [09:53] so maybe they got removed or something [09:53] i dunno [09:53] i should still have them at home [09:53] and i still know what i had in mind, so no biggy [09:53] heh [09:57] is there no option for having subtitles in parole? [09:58] doesn't matter for me so much, but might be an issue to some [09:59] yeah, it's not 100% feature-complete [10:03] bbl [10:41] ochosi: Thanks, I'll ask for the mock-ups when I get to actual implementation phase. [11:08] astraljava: I look forward to testing that! Especially if you get subtitle support working' [11:47] astraljava: cool, i'll take a quick look whether i can find the mockup/s [11:51] astraljava: ok, uploaded one of the mockups to the xfce design wiki page: https://wiki.xfce.org/design/parole-ui [11:53] that looks really nice =) [11:53] thanks [11:54] it's just a cleanup, nothing special ;) [16:08] the xubuntu blueprints are being handled by skaet right now [16:08] mr_pouit, ^ [16:40] yep, my mailbox agrees :P [16:40] thanks ;-) [16:40] np [19:01] * knome just added a lot of work items for the blueprints, please add more if you think something obvious is missing (if you are unsure of the assignee, set a team, like xubuntu-art, as the assignee, or if you are still unsure, set xubuntu-team) [19:04] madnick, what's the status of the lightdm settings gui? [19:10] knome: hm, the gui exists, some functionality exists, but iirc its rather incomplete in terms of config getting [19:10] madnick, do you think it's realistic to get that done for q? [19:10] madnick, i mean, should i just repostpone, or should we try? [19:10] its probably the easiest thing to do (if they have not changed it entirely) [19:10] of all the things [19:11] madnick, also, look at the "new plymouth/lightdm theme" -blueprints [19:11] and add any items you see fit [19:11] or that you need from others [19:11] okay, then let's keep the work items for now [19:11] will do [19:11] thanks [19:11] who will provide art btw? [19:11] ochosi? [19:11] i added xubuntu-art for that [19:11] so ochosi or me probably [19:11] okay [19:12] you can use the xubuntu-art team for artwork stuff where you are unsure [19:13] You (i think) was talking about just modifying the ubuntu greeter? [19:13] unity greeter* [19:13] umm, i was talking about maintaining that in addition ;] [19:14] hehe [19:14] i think it was ochosi if you have talked about just modifying that [19:14] ah okay [19:14] but that's not the most important thing [19:14] we can sort that out later [19:14] we need to get the work items in shape for thursday [19:14] so we are able to track progess more meaningfully [19:14] plus, that's the feature definition freeze day [19:14] ;) [19:15] i don't think we will be completely done, but it's good to at least try [19:15] (that's why i'm on the blueprints/work items now!) [19:16] you know the greeter theme for 8.04? [19:16] I sorta like the simplicity of that [19:17] http://www.screenshots-archive.com/files/images/02_logon_screen_0.png that? [19:17] or are you maybe referring to http://www.generation-linux.fr/public/avr09/gdm_xubuntu.png ? [19:17] i'd love something like the latter (again) ! [19:18] [knome] take more nature-photograps: TODO [19:18] ;) [19:18] i was talking about the first one, but the second one is even better in simplicity (if one centers that menu) [19:18] i'm running out [19:18] top menu [19:19] i don't think anything should be necessarily centered [19:19] but we can look at that :) [19:19] hehe [19:20] i have tons of pictures i took when i was flying helicopter up in the mountains up north [19:21] but they are poor quality, good res tho, if one manipulated them, it might look good [19:21] think 12mp camera [19:33] madnick, bad quality doesn't matter really [19:33] madnick, i can give you an example later today [19:33] bbl [19:37] knome Fedora17 just pushed out! [19:37] im upgrading then getting back to work on the icons for you :D [19:58] sadin, congrats [20:50] micahg, ? === Soupermanito is now known as GridCube