[00:04] <robotdevil> is kaffine kde 4 yet?
[00:13] <Scunizi> Why is there no icon or indicator in the system tray for Kopete?  I've looked in preferences and tagged it to show .. but nothing.  How do I fix this?
[00:21] <Sentynel> Scunizi: I've got one, are you sure it's not being autohidden? click the arrow at the end of the tray
[00:40] <toph> Avihay: well I'm back with an update and much more thanks. I've got it working about 80% I decided to use espeak since I can pass cmd line args to it easily. but now that I uninstalled jovie with "sudo apt-get remove jovie" now on startup I get an error about unable to start jovie service.
[00:40] <toph> did I uninstall it the wrong way?
 toph:  when I run out of disk space, it both shows me the pop out and reads out loud:" you are running out of disk space, currently 0 percent, xyz em.ai.bi would you like to open bla bla bla..."
[00:41] <Avihay> I've been unable to uninstall jovie aswell, not without getting lot's of error messages
[00:42] <Avihay> I think the issue is that you have to clear all the speech notifications
[00:42] <Scunizi> Sentynel: Ah the little up/down arrow next to the desktop view icon?  Looks like that's where it is. Thanks!
[00:53] <toph> Avihey thank you I'll double check that
[00:53] <toph> back in a bit
[01:18] <robotdevil> Is the fglrx driver pooched for 12.04
[01:41] <safridzal> after i upgrade to 4.8.3 i cant get my flip alt+tab working anymore
[01:41] <safridzal> anyone?
[01:49] <safridzal> after i upgrade to 4.8.3 i cant get my flip alt+tab working anymore. the setting still enabled, but it wont flip, any help??
[01:50] <amason__> safridzal: do you have any other effects enabled for alt+tab ?
[01:50] <safridzal> amason__: no
[01:50] <safridzal> alt+tab just for flip
[01:51] <amason__> then i don't know sorry. Works on my machine with 4.8.3
[02:57] <sheedakim> Olá!!!
[03:29] <robotdevil> is what is weird, fglrx driver is broken on both kernels avaliable in grub, but if I resume from recovery it works with rendering enabled
[05:51] <windbuntu> who is the new kubuntu sponsor?
[05:54] <amason__> windbuntu: blue systems i think
[05:56] <windbuntu> yes thats it ty
[05:56] <windbuntu> i hope they really get behing kubuntu
[05:56] <windbuntu> behind*
[05:59] <amason__> windbuntu: my understanding is they are just paying some developers to hack on kubuntu and possibly offering paid support for kubuntu
[05:59] <amason__> well not just
[05:59] <amason__> just makes it seem insignificant which it's not, it's a really big thing
[06:00] <amason__> but in terms of visibility to the wider kubuntu community it probably won't be outwardly noticeable
[06:03] <coder2> Hello. I'd appreciate if someone point me how to clear list of startup applications. Once I've started kontact by mistake and now I cannot get rid of it on each login.
[06:05] <coder2> I've just clear its executable attribute, but there should be better way.
[08:08] <flesp> last night i installed kubuntu.  I've setup my screen to run on a 47" TV at 1920x1080.  Fonts look tiny and unreadable.  So in system settings -> application appearance, I've setup default fonts (a cumbersome chore) so I can read them at this high resolution.  Some apps (KSystemLog is the first I've found) doesn't use these fonts and as a result, it's an unusable program.  Is there anywhere else I can specify which fonts the
[08:08] <flesp>  program should use, or am I going to have to  submit a patch to get that one fixed?!
[08:09] <Tm_T> flesp: instead of changing all fonts, change dpi settings?
[08:10] <flesp> Aaah, that works.  thanks Tm_T.
[08:10] <Tm_T> (:
[08:10] <flesp> Okay, I got one more...
[08:12] <flesp> when I'm surfing pr0n (lol), I might encounter an image that's too big for the browser window, so I would normally click on the middle mouse button and scroll around by moving the mouse.  This doesn't seem to work on kubuntu.  Is there a package I could install to enable this?
[08:13] <Tm_T> flesp: you were unable to give any other example for such feature?
[08:14] <Tm_T> !ohmy | flesp
[08:14] <Tm_T> bah, not that
[08:14] <flesp> I wasn't aware I used fowl language
[08:14] <flesp> but I take your point
[08:14] <flesp> sorry
[08:15] <Tm_T> !language > flesp
[08:15] <Tm_T> that's what I actually was looking for, main point being we try keep these channels family friendly
[08:15] <flesp> sure.
[08:17] <spartan31> Hallo People
[08:19] <spartan31> I'm in a LAN in which on a NAS are shared 3 folders under the group Workgroup. In windows i can see these folders. Why i can't do this in dolphin?
[09:41] <ForgeAus> is it possible to turn off ACPI with P8Z68 Deluxe/Gen3 mobo?
[09:54] <patriss> hello
[09:55] <patriss> I can not restart apache2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014484/
[09:55] <patriss> what can I do please?
[09:57] <MaNe> patriss: The Apache error log may have more information.
[09:58] <spartan31_> However thanks of the non existing support.... someone told me "linux users and community will always help you" and i see is true, and more if do by yourself bu googling. But if if i google ... what is the need of having a community ? What i see is that we (new users) are always left alone.
[10:00] <patriss> MaNe: log are empty http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014491/
[10:01] <MaNe> strange. Did you tried to google out?
[10:04] <patriss> MaNe: it's ok now, I had to kill 69 pidfornginx ;)
[10:05] <patriss> several times
[10:05] <patriss> apache2 is launched
[10:05] <patriss> kill -9 pid
[10:06] <MaNe> oky  good
[10:08] <patriss> to know the problem I have just done a : netstat -ltnp | grep ':80'
[10:08] <patriss> if it can help someone else :)
[10:09] <MaNe> well done patriss
[10:22] <lilu> wer ist da ich bin beim probieren
[10:28] <lelamal> !de | lilu
[11:28] <edmundo> hi
[13:10] <ALS-IT-NET-PC> Welcome to you..
[13:41] <ct529> hi everybody. I am changing an had disk where the OS is installed and would like to create more than the usual 4 partitions, to be able to isolate the /var and /opt directories as well
[13:41] <ct529> Is there a way of having more than 4 partitions on a disk without using LVM
[13:41] <ct529> ?
[13:43] <MaNe> ct529: you can create the partitions as logical
[13:43] <MaNe> extended
[13:43] <ct529> MaNe?
[13:45] <MaNe> what is not clear?
[13:45] <ct529> I am not sure what do you mean by creating them as logical / extended .... I would need physical, real partitions
[13:46] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:48] <MaNe> ct529: what is the reason why you need to create as physical?
[14:00] <juemo> Hi !  I would like to disable graphical login on my kubuntu and got no success.  I tried deactivating kdm with update-rc.d and changing the /etc/default/grub file but it keeps starting a GUI.  Any idea ?
[14:02] <ct529> MaNe: sorry, quick meeting
[14:02] <ct529> MaNe: I think it the extended partition gets damaged all the logical partitions within it will get damaged as well
[14:02] <ct529> MaNe: with physical partitions it is different ....
[14:05] <obelus> ct529: The possibility of that happening is extremely low though, and I imagine only the few bytes describing the extended partition being damaged would cause you any problems, and that would be easily recoverable
[14:05] <obelus> And in answer to your question, you can use the GUID partitioning table to have more than 4 partitions, but afaik you have to format your drive to switch
[14:08] <ct529> obelus: it is a new drive
[14:08] <ct529> obelus: hence I can format it whichever way
[14:08] <obelus> Then you could probably format it with a GPT partitioning table, I'm not sure exactly how though, or if Kubuntu will boot from GPT, but it probably will
[14:11] <ct529> obelus: thanks very interesting ....
[14:11] <ct529> obelus: I was also reading on the btrfs file system, that can be used as the background structure instead of LVM .... is that correct?
[14:12] <obelus> Not entirely sure, but if LVM allows you to create more than 4 partitions, than they're likely logical partitions
[14:12] <obelus> Honestly, I'd just use extended/logical.
[14:14] <obelus> I've never really looked into LVM, I just know that it lets you do software based RAID and presents it as a single disk 'md0', or 'md1', etc. to the OS.
[14:14] <obelus> At least, I think it's LVM that shows it as md0.
[14:14] <obelus> If not, it'd be a similiar name
[14:15] <laptop_02> hellow !
[14:17] <BluesKaj> obelus,  logical partitions are like , /  /boot  /home etc on a single OS install, correct?
[14:18] <obelus> Uhm... no. Logical partitions are like primary partitions except that they are in a container called an extended partition.
[14:18] <BluesKaj> must confess I've understood the logic of it
[14:18] <obelus> They have their own filesystems and everything
[14:18] <BluesKaj> never understood
[14:19] <BluesKaj> yes , noe i recall the / /home as primaries
[14:19] <obelus> Those are directories, not partitions
[14:19] <obelus> They can be stored on partitions which are then mounted
[14:19] <ICWeiner> How can I go to SD card in CLI?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> now ,...need to put my glasses on
[14:20] <BluesKaj> obelus, yes I understand the dirs , but why would they be primary on my partition table?
[14:21] <obelus> They'd be primary on your partition table if you chose to install them on a primary partition when you were installing your OS
[14:22] <ICWeiner> How can I go to SD card in CLI?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> obelus, where and how else would one install an OS , I thought rrimary partitions were obligatory for OSs
[14:22] <obelus> ...
[14:22] <BluesKaj> primary
[14:22] <obelus> No.
[14:23] <obelus> Also, you can install it on one or many partitions, the only partition completely necessary is /
[14:23] <obelus> and it will quite happily sit on a logical partition
[14:25] <BluesKaj> aha , now we're getting somewhere ...wonder  why i thought OSs needed to be on a primary...have to stop making incorrect assumptions
[14:25] <obelus> No, you have to stop making assumptions ;p
[14:25] <obelus> there's an old saying
[14:25] <obelus> "Never assume, it makes an ass of you and me"
[14:25] <lordievader> ICWeiner: Depends on where it is mounted, usually somewhere in /media
[14:25] <BluesKaj> yup , I know it
[14:25] <ICWeiner> Thx
[15:02] <MaNe> GUID have 2TB limitation
[16:51] <sky100> hi
[16:52] <sky100> how to install handbrake in kubuntu
[16:52] <sky100> 12.04
[16:52] <sky100> i want to convert a DVD format into am mp4 for mobile
[16:52] <sky100> an*
[16:57] <sky100> how to install handbrake in kubuntu
[16:57] <sky100> i want to convert a DVD format into an p4 for mobile
[16:57] <sky100> mp4
[17:03] <genii-around> sky100: There is currently no handbrake release for 12.04 . You may want to consider re-coding with ffmpeg
[17:07] <sky100> ffmpeg
[17:07] <sky100> ??
[17:08] <sky100> genii-around,  ty for the info
[17:08] <sky100> but how to get that even
[17:08] <sky100> ffmpeg
[17:09] <genii-around> sky100: From the package manager
[17:09] <sky100> ok
[17:09] <sky100> genii-around,  ty .. im gonna see that
[17:10] <ignerious> hello
[17:10] <ignerious> can anyone help me
[17:10] <ignerious> ??
[17:11] <ignerious> regarding network manager
[17:11] <DarthFrog> !ask | ignerious
[17:12] <ignerious> i have used pppoeconf to connect to internet using command line
[17:12] <ignerious> now network manager is saying "unmanaged
[17:12] <ignerious> "
[17:13] <ignerious> now how can I connect using network manager
[17:16] <ignerious> ?????
[17:16] <sky100> how to adda ppa to kubuntu12.04
[17:16] <sky100> add a*
[17:16] <ignerious> no
[17:16] <DarthFrog> ignerious:  I've never used PPOE so I can't give you specific help with that.  But to configure a connection with Network Manager, right click on  its icon in the systray and select Settings.  The icon resembles a network cable plugged into a RJ-45 jack.
[17:18] <lordievader> sky100: sudo add-apt-repository <ppa>
[17:19] <sky100> hey lordievader
[17:19] <sky100> ty
[17:19] <sky100> ok
[17:19] <sky100> in face i was trying to install handbrake in my kubuntu 12.04
[17:19] <sky100> fact*
[17:21] <lordievader> sky100: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:stebbins/handbrake-releases
[17:21] <agus> hello there
[17:23] <lordievader> agus: Hey, how are you?
[17:24] <agus> i am good lordievader
[17:24] <agus> where are you from?
[17:24] <ct529> hi everybody. The sound keep crashing, how do you restart it?
[17:25] <lordievader> agus: Questions like that are better suited for the #kubuntu-offtopic channel.
[17:25] <lordievader> ct529: kmix?
[17:25] <lordievader> ct529: Run it in a terminal like this: kmix&
[17:26] <makhauser> Is anybody here from Ukraine and has problems with rekonQ and i.ua autorisation? Password is correct, but rekonQ fails to autorise... Thx
[17:26] <agus> somebody know how to activate my external creative webcam on kubuntu 10.10?
[17:26] <agus> i cant find the correct driver on the net
[17:27] <agus> have any idea lord?
[17:27] <lordievader> agus: Nope, I don't really use webcams...
[17:27] <ct529> lordievader: not really, phonon keeps saying that it wants to remove the devices .... so I have to control everyhting from pulseaudio
[17:27] <agus> yeahhhh,,but at least somebody how to do that in this room
[17:28] <makhauser> agus: driver should be installed automatically. My Logitech webcam hasn't asked anything
[17:29] <agus> i ask about '''creative webam'''you told me about your logitech,,,its kind of sky and earth,,,doesnt match at all
[17:30] <sunitasethi> hello
[17:31] <makhauser> Sorry, туплю. As for me, they must be in your system. Have you seen this?
[17:31] <makhauser> http://opensource.creative.com/webcam.html
[17:31] <lordievader> sunitasethi: Hey, how are you?
[17:31] <sunitasethi> i good vader
[17:32] <agus> makhauser...thanks
[17:32] <makhauser> You are welcome, agus
[17:32] <sunitasethi> i am good lordievader
[17:33] <lordievader> sunitasethi: Good to hear.
[17:37] <agus> but unfortunately my webcam hasnt on the list
[17:53] <patriss> hi
[17:53] <patriss> I have install awstats
[17:54] <patriss> but when I enter this kind of url myodomain.tld/cgi-bin/awstats.pl  the pl is downloader
[17:54] <patriss> why ?
[19:06] <sky100> how to kill an unresponsive programme in kubuntu 12.04
[19:07] <sky100> pls help..
[19:07] <lordievader> sky100: Find the pid and run: kill <pid>
[19:07] <sky100> how to find the pid
[19:07] <genii-around> sky100: ctrl-alt-esc   then put skull and crossbones on the open window of the offending application
[19:08] <genii-around> If it doesn't have a window then use the manual kill method
[19:08] <lordievader> sky100: I allways use "ps aux|grep <program-name>" It shows a bunch of things, the second column is the pid.
[19:09] <tomatto_> hi
[19:09] <sky100> i used ctrl-ait-esc & killed it ..
[19:09] <lordievader> genii-around: Hey that ctrl-alt-esc thing is pretty neat :)
[19:09] <sky100> ty genii-around
[19:09] <genii-around> lordievader: :-)
[19:09] <genii-around> sky100: You're welcome
[19:09] <sky100> but would like to know the method as told by lordievader
[19:10] <tomatto_> please, why only kino show my 1394 camera?
[19:11] <genii-around> tomatto_: Because it's a Digital Video input
[19:12] <tomatto_> genii-around: can i use it for skype or vlc?
[19:12] <sky100> lordievader,
[19:13] <genii-around> tomatto_: No. Just for non-linear editing of video in the format of Digital Video
[19:13] <sky100> i was trying to close handbrake using ps aux|grep
[19:13] <sky100> lordievader,
[19:13] <genii-around> tomatto_: Or you mean can you use the firewire camera for vlc or skype?
[19:13] <sky100> so i type in conslole ....
[19:13] <tomatto_> genii-around: use it as a webcam
[19:13] <lordievader> sky100: Grep needs an argument, what you mean is: ps aux|grep handbrake
[19:14] <sky100> yep
[19:14] <sky100> i typed that in terminal
[19:14] <tomatto_> genii-around: if there is some way?
[19:14] <genii-around> tomatto_: VLC should be able to use any kind of video input, including firewire. Skype gets fussy.
[19:14] <sky100> sky@sky-desktop:~$ ps aux|grep handbrake
[19:14] <sky100> sky       6155  0.0  0.0   4624   816 pts/2    S+   00:41   0:00 grep --color=auto handbrake
[19:14] <sky100> thats what terminal showd
[19:14] <sky100> lordievader,
[19:15] <sky100> what is PID
[19:15] <tomatto_> genii-around: but i don't know path to device for vlc
[19:15] <lordievader> sky100: Then either it is not running, or it doesn't use the name handbrake. It only shows the grep process.
[19:16] <genii-around> "Process IDentification"
[19:17] <sky100> ps aux |grep firefox
[19:19] <sky100> sky       1957  3.3 10.3 491736 132624 ?       Sl   May30   5:07 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[19:19] <sky100> sky       5653  0.4  1.9 155396 25172 ?        Sl   00:21   0:07 /usr/lib/firefox/plugin-container /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja 1957 true plugin
[19:19] <sky100> sky       6217  0.0  0.0   4628   816 pts/2    S+   00:48   0:00 grep --color=auto firefox
[19:19] <FloodBotK1> sky100: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:19] <sky100> ok
[19:19] <sky100> whaere is PID in firefox here
[19:19] <sky100> where*
[19:20] <lordievader> sky100: Could you put it in pastebin or something?
[19:20] <lordievader> sky100: The pid of ff is 1957
[19:20] <genii-around> sky100: In the output you just gave, 1957 is the PID for /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[19:20] <tomatto_> genii-around: ? some software which use 1394 camera and make some virtual webcam?
[19:20] <sky100> ok
[19:20] <tomatto_> for v4l2
[19:22] <sky100> handbrake is up on my desktop
[19:22] <sky100> i want to stop it ...using ps aux|grep
[19:23] <sky100> just to see if it gets closed  with its PID being killed
[19:23] <tomatto_> what /dev/ has 1394 camera?
[19:23] <sky100> but PID is not being found
[19:23] <sky100> yep lordievader
[19:23] <lordievader> sky100: If you don't know what the process name is you can manually look for it using: ps -U <username> and searching the list for something that points to the program.
[19:25] <sky100> ok .. lordievader
[19:26] <sky100> yep ps -U<username> popped up the processes
[19:27] <genii-around> tomatto_: The VLC wiki is currently having problems, but after it's back up perhaps see http://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Streaming_HowTo/Stream_from_a_DV_Camcorder
[19:29] <genii-around> tomatto_: ( alternately try #videolan channel )
[19:29] <sky100> handbrake process id is not found in the list
[19:29] <genii-around> sky100: After you kill it, it no longer has one
[19:30] <sky100> ive that running on my desktop
[19:30] <sky100> just interface is open
[19:30] <sky100> i reopened it
[19:30] <sky100> so there got to be a PID
[19:31] <genii-around> Probably zombie
[19:31] <genii-around> ( in which case there's no way to close it)
[19:32] <sky100> lol genii-around
[19:32] <lordievader> genii-around: Not even with kill -9?
[19:32] <genii-around> lordievader: Exactly
[19:33] <lordievader> genii-around: Not or is it still killable? XD
[19:33] <jonte> I have a problem with my old HP LaserJet 6L printer connected with an USB->LPT cable. I usually prints the first document, usually but after that the rest are stuck in the que. I'm using the recommended Foomatic driver. Where should I look?
[19:33] <sky100> kill 1957 .. sucessfully killed firefox
[19:33] <lordievader> sky100: You do know that pid is dynamic right?
[19:34] <sky100> yea
[19:34] <genii-around> sky100: Since there is no handbrake version for 12.04, whichever version did you try to run?
[19:35] <sky100> someone team viewed & installed handbrake snapshot repository
[19:35] <sky100> so it got installed sucessfully ...
[19:36] <juemo> Hi ! I would like to disable graphical login in Kubuntu.  Changing /etc/default/grub doesn't seems to work.  Any hint ?
[19:37] <genii-around> juemo: Grub is the bootloader
[19:38] <genii-around> juemo: KDM is the graphical login part. But if you remove that, the system will just boot up to a command prompt.
[19:38] <juemo> genii-around: I know, but there was some procedure I tried using it.  I also tried disabling kdm autorun with update-rc.d which did'nt work either
[19:39] <juemo> genii-around: maybe I should just uninstall kdm ?
[19:39] <genii-around> juemo: Alternately use update-alternatives and don't specify one
[19:39] <lordievader> I might be old-fashioned but runlevel 3 allways was a boot into the command line.
[19:40] <lordievader> I do believe they threw that out though...
[19:41] <juemo> lordievader: might be too old fashioned for me, i don't know much about those runlevel things...
[19:42] <juemo> genii-around: I'll take a look at this
[19:42] <lordievader> Oh I read here that runlevel 3 doesn't work in ubuntu XD
[19:42] <genii-around> !runlevels
[19:43] <juemo> genii-around: about that grub default file I was talking about, there are variables (GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX) which I read were supposed to help me disable graphical login.  Instead, they disable the splash image...
[19:46] <genii-around> juemo: So.. you want the machine to boot to a command prompt and then you have to login at command line  to your user then run manually startkde?
[19:47] <juemo> genii-around: exactly
[19:47] <juemo> genii-around: or have startkde run by a vnc client or the like
[19:47] <lordievader> In otherwords what my ubuntu server does normally. Why don't you install ubuntu server?
[19:48] <cancer> lordievader: hi :)
[19:48] <juemo> lordievader: My manager what's kubuntu desktop
[19:48] <juemo> lordievader: My manager wants
[19:48] <juemo> lordievader: sorry for the typo
[19:48] <lordievader> juemo: I see, yeah than that is not going to work...
[19:48] <lordievader> Hey cancer how are you?
[19:49] <cancer> lordievader, i'm fine, how's about you. :)
[19:49] <juemo> lordievader: no? why not ? or... how can I make it work ? ;)
[19:49] <lordievader> cancer: I'm doing good too.
[19:49] <cancer> do you still have command on mikrotik:)
[19:49] <cancer> ?
[19:50] <lordievader> juemo: That is the problem, I don't know. All I know is that my server doesn't boot into a gui....
[19:51] <juemo> lordievader: I fear if I boot an ubuntu server and then install kde it will automatically start on boot too
[19:52] <lordievader> juemo: For me the gdm (gnome display manager) did, but the kdm didn't...
[19:53] <juemo> lordievader: this is somewhat unexpected
[19:54] <juemo> So... I leave this job next week, so if they want the system to use less ram, they'll just have to handle it themselves.
[19:55] <juemo> case closed ;) thanks ! :D
[19:55] <lordievader> juemo: lol nice one :P
[19:55] <juemo> lordievader: I like to solve problem in a simple manner :P
[19:56] <genii-around> juemo: The fast and not correct way to have it drop to command prompt is just mv /etc/init/kdm.conf somewhere safe.
[19:57] <juemo> genii-arount: Is /etc/init/kdm.conf.hidden is safe enough on your opinion ?
[20:00] <genii-around> juemo: You could prepend a dot and keep it in the same directory, or even rename it to kdm.conf.backup     or whatever
[20:01] <genii-around> The upstart script won't find it then
[20:02] <juemo> genii-arount: should <>$ startx<> work right then ?
[20:03] <genii-around> juemo: startx will still work. But it will use whatever is the default in /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager
[20:03] <genii-around> juemo: To find out what that is, ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager
[20:03] <genii-around> ( it may be startkde or it may not )
[20:05] <juemo> genii-arount: it is kwin here.  I didn't know about this alternative system from debian.  This is interesting
[20:05] <juemo> genii-arount: alternative for x-session-manager is startkde
[20:06] <genii-around> juemo: So in that case, whenever a user logs in to command prompt and issues: startx     it will go into KDE ( Kubuntu )
[20:06] <genii-around> juemo: Unless they over-ride it with a local .xsession
[20:09] <juemo> genii-arount: fine.  This is really solving my problem.  Thank you
[20:10] <juemo> I learned more than I intended to, thank you all :D
[20:10] <genii-around> juemo: You're welcome. If you do upgrades, make sure to replace/unhide the /etc/init/kdm.conf
[20:11] <juemo> genii-arount: you mean, before the upgrade ?
[20:11] <genii-around> juemo: Yes, so that if updates to kdm happen, etc it doesn't error out.
[20:12] <juemo> genii-arount: ok, noted. thanks !
[20:18] <neure> something funny has happened to my apps
[20:18] <neure> applications in e menu is empty
[20:18] <neure> any idea what has happened and how to fix this?
[20:19] <genii-around> neure: Did you just do an upgrade?
[20:19] <neure> i installed some updates
[20:20] <neure> i hadnt booted this vm for a while
[20:20] <genii-around> neure: Might be good to restart it and see if the problem persists
[20:21] <neure> will do
[20:21] <neure> also my e menu panel was in the middle of the screen
[20:22] <neure> and there it is again..
[20:23] <neure> reboot did _not_ bring apps back
[20:24] <neure> Failed to download http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/sudo/sudo_1.8.3p1-1ubuntu3.1_i386.deb
[20:24] <neure> 404  Not Found [IP: 194.169.254.10 80]
[20:24] <genii-around> neure: Was the host system rebooted since *it's* last updates?
[20:25] <neure> host system?
[20:25] <neure> host is windows
[20:25] <neure> i did update virtual box though
[20:25] <neure> without rebooting though
[20:25] <neure> ok ill reboot windows too..
[20:27] <neure> ok
[20:27] <neure> rebooted windows
[20:27] <neure> what you call the e menu panel?
[20:28] <neure> it keeps resetting its place to middle of my screen
[20:28] <neure> that is quite annoying
[20:28] <neure> and applications is still empty
[20:29] <genii-around> neure: Are you using Kubuntu? I'm not aware of this "e menu"
[20:29] <neure> hmm
[20:30] <neure> its called application launcher menu
[20:30] <neure> but it has e icon on it
[20:30] <neure> may be because of some icon set i've chosen
[20:31] <neure> Im using elementary dark icons
[20:32] <neure> in Icons - System Settings
[20:32] <genii-around> Hm
[20:32] <neure> looks like GB update server didnt have much / didnt work
[20:33] <khmerog> hi can someone help me install Virtual machine
[20:33] <neure> when i changed to main update server, i got a lot more updates
[20:33] <neure> updateing now
[20:33] <neure> khmerog, what host? what guest?
[20:33] <genii-around> neure: Are you able to add Application Launcher widget?
[20:33] <neure> its updating at the moment
[20:34] <khmerog> host? guest? lol
[20:34] <khmerog> wim a noob
[20:34] <neure> khmerog, host is the system which runs the VM
[20:34] <neure> guest is the system which runs inside the VM
[20:34] <khmerog> can u tell me what that means? i am on kubuntu and i want to try out other LINUX OS distros
[20:34] <khmerog> OIC!!!
[20:34] <neure> gene77, yes i can, and it shows basically the very same thing
[20:35] <genii-around> neure: OK
[20:35] <neure> khmerog, ok so kubuntu is your host and other distros would be your guests
[20:35] <khmerog> correct
[20:35] <neure> im running kubuntu guest in vm running on windows 7 host
[20:35] <lordievader>  /quit
[20:35] <khmerog> someone told me to sudo apt-get install virtualbox in terminal buti am on the Muon Package Manager
[20:36] <khmerog> but there is 4 diffferent ones..they end in DBG, DKMS, FUSE, QT..which one do i install for kubuntu?
[20:38] <genii-around> khmerog: For Kubuntu, the Qt one
[20:39] <neure> still updating...
[20:39] <genii-around> "virtualbox" itself is the base stuff, "virtualbox-qt" will be the Qt-based interface to that ( which is what Kubuntu uses )
[20:45] <neure> even after installing updates
[20:45] <neure> and rebooting again
[20:45] <neure> menu still shows up in the middle
[20:45] <neure> and applications shows nothing
[20:46] <genii-around> neure: I'm suspecting virtualbox, but i don't have much experience with it.
[20:47] <genii-around> Have you tried #vbox ?
[20:54] <khmerog> thanks genii-around but out of curiosity what is CBG, CKMS, FUSE and QT?
[20:59] <genii-around> khmerog: DBG = extra debugging info, DKMS = Dynamic Kernel Module System ( often used for proprietary drivers so they upgrade when you upgrade the kernel) , FUSE = user-space filesystem, QT/Qt = type of application framework
[21:27] <BarkingFish> evening guys :)  Just seeking a little bit of help - some time ago, I categorized all my music by artist, and alphabetically - as a result it's all spread out over about 23,000 folders.
[21:27] <BarkingFish> Is there any way whatsoever, I can get all of that music in one go, and move it from the folders, into one single folder location, rather than going through all 23,000 individually and doing it by hand?
[21:28] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, what did you use to categorize , amarok ?
[21:28] <BarkingFish> no, did it manually
[21:29] <BarkingFish> I had a lot of time on my hands, this was a couple of years ago when I was being treated for Cancer - I couldn't do much else
[21:31] <BluesKaj> so these folders are in different dirs ?
[21:33] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, ^
[21:50] <neure> how do i remove ubuntus own version of virtualbox additions?
[21:50] <neure> my kubuntu is messed up and i cant see any apps
[21:51] <Galvatron> neure: Maybe a fresh install would be the fastest solution
[21:51] <neure> i dont want to lose my settings
[21:51] <neure> i customised kde look and feel
[21:51] <neure> i agree that _might_ be the fastest
[21:52] <Galvatron> Don't you have a separate /home?
[21:52] <neure> this is just a single vm
[21:52] <neure> single virtual drive
[21:52] <Galvatron> Anyways, you can always backup and restore /home
[21:53] <neure> where does kubuntu store look and feel setting?
[21:54] <Galvatron> To tell the truth, it's a good question actually...
[21:54] <Galvatron> Most should be in /home, but I'm not sure how much really
[21:55] <neure> apparently in ~/.kde
[21:58] <neure> ok
[21:58] <neure> removed guest additions
[21:59] <neure> application launcher still shows no apps
[21:59] <Galvatron> Personally for a very long time I restore  the system from a Clonezilla backup, instead of doing a true format (I've almost forgotten what does it men to format)
[22:12] <ubuntu__> HI ALL
[22:13] <neure> can i reinstall the application launcher somehow?
[22:13] <neure> which package is it in?
[22:13] <neure> can i reinstall kde-workspace* ?
[22:14] <LordOfTime> neure:  if you figure out the individual package you can probably reinstall it
[22:14] <LordOfTime> i would advise against using wildcards though
[22:15] <neure> what is apt reinstall command?
[22:15] <LordOfTime> neure:  if you know the package name: sudo apt-get install --reinstall [package]
[22:15] <LordOfTime> at the terminal
[22:15] <delete> всем привет
[22:16] <LordOfTime> !ru | delete
[22:16] <LordOfTime> i think...
[22:16] <ubuntu__> delete ПРИВЕТ
[22:26] <neure> hmmh
[22:26] <neure> ive got this issue: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-909408-start-0.html
[22:26] <neure> unfortunately the solution does not work for kubuntu
[22:26] <neure> or i dont know how to do it..
[22:35] <Galvatron> You might want to update to 4.8.3, if you haven't already done so
[23:39] <delete> народ подскажите пожалуйсто как узнать какое приложение работает с пакетами в данный момент?
[23:39] <genii-around> !ru
[23:52] <Linkmaster> Is it possible to change font color in telepathy-kde?
[23:52] <graft> how do i control the environment KDE runs in? specifically how can i get it to use RVM?
[23:53] <genii-around> !info ruby-rvm
[23:59] <graft> yes, i know how to use rvm
[23:59] <graft> however, i don't know where kde gets its environment from
[23:59] <graft> rvm is setup in your bashrc or so on
[23:59] <graft> i want to make the kde environment use rvm