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bluefox83harris_: to my knowledge such software is not currently available for ubuntu...00:00
harris_how do i download a app in the software center that lets me login to ubuntu 12.04 using my face and my webcam00:00
bluefox83Celso_: then it's not using the card00:00
nulldevharris face && webcam > dev/null >> harris00:00
Celso_Bluefox83 : but how tha hell is still on?00:00
jointthis is the best guide for ubuntu 12.04 and amd catalyst..... everything about drivers. http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide00:00
Benkinoobystef1a, anything interesting in dmesg?00:00
lopnut1971ActionParsnip, still didn't work00:00
ActionParsnipharris_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/login-to-ubuntu-using-your-face/00:01
harris_nulldev,  you want me to download face && webcam00:01
ActionParsniplopnut1971: run:  lsusb   use the 8 character hex ID to find guides00:01
harris_ActionParsnip,  should i post outcomes00:01
Celso_joint: thanks! i will going to check if there is something that could fix.00:01
jointnp. it has everything...00:02
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Celso_Bluefox83 : and thanks for the help bluefox83!00:02
ActionParsnipharris_: outcomes of what?00:02
jointi like to manually install the drivers now that i know how to do it.00:02
harris_the codes00:02
bluefox83Celso_: it's likely running a generic card driver00:02
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Benkinoobystef1a, how familiar are you with terminals?00:04
Celso_Bluefox83 : probably. i am going to check the link. but, really, thank you!00:04
jointRemoving Catalyst/fglrx is towards the bottom00:04
stef1asorry00:04
bluefox83Celso_: you're welcome00:04
bluefox83brb ppl00:04
harris_ActionParsnip,  E: Unable to locate package pam-face-authentication00:04
harris_is what comes up00:04
stef1aBenkinooby: yes; dmesg displays a lot of stuff, not sure what to look for.00:05
Celso_joint : the bottom? i didnt understand....00:05
Benkinoobystef1a, hm, ok... are you used to console? do you know commands like cat or cd?00:05
BertoHi - So has anyone made a good solution to the awful 1 pixel Ubuntu 12.04 Window Resize Corner problem??00:05
Bertohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOwXMTglGdM00:05
ActionParsnipharris_: make sure the ppa supports your release00:05
nulldevif [ -d windows ] ; then rm -rf windows00:05
jointscroll down to the bottom of the page...00:06
harris_how do i do that ActionParsnip00:06
stef1aBenkinooby: yes00:06
Benkinoobystef1a, also is this a fresh install?00:06
stef1aBenkinooby: what do you mean by fresh?00:06
nulldevharris why are you asking about an e; partition?00:06
jointthat page shows u how to do everything00:06
Cerrdorhow do I get out of root so I can install something not as root?00:06
BenkinoobySteeltip, did you just set it up?00:06
harris_ActionParsnip,  i have ubuntu 12.0400:06
Benkinoobystef1a, , did you just set it up?00:06
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stef1aBenkinooby: no, it's been a fee weeks00:06
BenkinoobySteeltip, sry, wrong nick00:06
stef1afew*00:06
Benkinoobystef1a, and the problem was there all the time?00:07
alex-Can I get infected by keyloggers?00:07
jointno00:07
stef1aBenkinooby: not sure... I think I could originally use the slider, but it wouldn't save the brightness after a reboot, so then I added the acpi_vendor and linux lines to the grub config file, and then it got as it is now00:07
ActionParsnipharris_: ok, check it supports Prcise then....00:07
Celso_joint : yep. lots of information there00:07
nulldevforgot fi00:07
nulldevyou can get infected by anything on Linux00:08
harris_how do i check it00:08
jointits direction on how to manually install amd driver supplied by ubuntu... or to download them of of amd's site and compile the package00:08
nulldevless than windows but if you know the Linux system aN00:08
nulldevand what root and a user is its secure as fook00:09
jointif you remove the amd driver, depending on which one u have, you may have to replace some files... you have to read it. its a bit much at first. but you get used to it. i like to always have the latest catalyst drivers00:09
jointthe ubuntu supplied amd driver doesnt always have the latest features00:09
Benkinoobystef1a, i have to go now, but here is what i would do: try to get back to original state, install the closed source driver (keyword: jockey) in case you haven't00:09
stef1aBenkinooby: yes, sir! thank yoiu!00:10
ActionParsnipharris_: http://ppa.launchpad.net/antonio.chiurazzi/ppa/ubuntu/dists/  only goes up to Oneiric00:10
harris_ActionParsnip,  so how do i get it00:10
harris_is there a code00:10
Benkinoobystef1a, then come here again... it is easier to fix settings that are not save than settings that are not working at all00:10
jointcatalyst 12.5 will be released any day now00:10
Benkinoobystef1a, to be honest, it is very strange that the brightness changes for new chrome tabs00:10
Celso_joint : thanks alot dude! already bookmarked that link :D going to restart to see if the changes worked! thanks!00:11
jointok good luck00:11
alex-hmm00:11
Celso_:D00:11
jointyea i keep that link up in the cloud myself :)00:11
Benkinoobystef1a, also, i don't think it intended, that the brightness is saved over a reboot00:11
nulldevbrightness lvls would never be stored in a var00:12
jointi hope he can read that from another comp. he might just be booting up to a command prompt00:12
Benkinoobystef1a, but if you want that, a small bash-skript could be used for that, which saves the config at shutdown and resets the config at reboot.00:12
Benkinoobystef1a, also i am sure that there is a "default" brightness set somewhere in the system00:13
K350any terminal utility that shows varous info about a file?00:15
nulldevinfo as in?00:16
zykotick9K350: "file foo"?00:16
Chuck_NorrisK350: file /path/to/file00:16
psusiK350, what sort of info?00:16
nulldevk350 stat is a good one i,e stat file/dir00:17
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K350zykotick9: file is good too, I want to know privelgeies - in numbers, file size and type and date00:17
KRomoany suggestions on a podcast app for linux?00:17
Chuck_NorrisK350: ls -l foo00:17
stef1aBenkinooby: I removed the lines from the config file. Now the slider is back.00:17
psusiK350, ls -l00:17
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Benkinoobystef1a, ok, that's good00:18
zykotick9K350: permissions aren't typically shown in octal format - that's for human interpretation00:18
stef1aBenkinooby: However, the screen is still adjusting its brightness whenever I shift windows. This bothers me.00:18
Benkinoobystef1a, so brightness is working the way it should - except for that saving part00:18
nulldevdu -h --max-depth=2 / | grep **M00:18
stef1aAnd I suspect that the brightness resets to maximum upon reboot.00:18
Benkinoobystef1a, hm, ok00:18
K350nulldev: stat, that's the tool I was looking for. Thanks a lot!:-)00:18
Benkinoobystef1a, can you give me the output of dmesg?00:19
nulldevcan be good for finding whats taking up space00:19
K350ok, found the tool I was looking for  - 'stat'00:19
nulldevstat FTW its brill k350 :)00:19
stef1aBenkinooby: uh... it's pretty large.00:19
K350nulldev: FTW..huh..what's that?00:20
Benkinooby!paste stef1a00:20
Benkinooby!paste00:20
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:20
nulldevk350 fuck the world00:20
BenkinoobyK350, free the walrus00:21
stef1aBenkinooby: http://pastebin.com/wW5q8VM100:21
nulldevmultiline message<<EOF; 1;2EOF00:21
supplyshipso.. is this where i am supposed to be if i can't figure out what i'm doing?00:22
MalsasaHello, TAB button used for jump forward from one item to next item in GUI, e.g. Wordpress Login Page. Now how if i wanna jump backward? What button should I tap?00:22
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Benkinoobystef1a, can you run lspci in a terminal and paste me its output please?00:23
bastidrazorMalsasa: shit+tab00:23
bastidrazoroops.. shift+tab00:23
sbattey_Lol00:23
Malsasabastidrazor: ooooh, thank you!00:24
Malsasabastidrazor:00:24
stef1ahttp://pastebin.com/ys4c9TWR00:24
Malsasabastidrazor: how easy, i dont know....00:24
bastidrazorMalsasa: You're welcome00:24
stef1aBenkinooby: http://pastebin.com/ys4c9TWR00:24
Malsasabastidrazor: :D00:24
nulldevwonders how noobs would have handled 10 years ago00:24
jointi think that guy didnt print those instructions and deleted his amd driver.. and is just sitting at a prompt right now going omg00:24
homecablewhats a good program to watch ur bandwith00:24
jointi hope he didnt do that00:24
ActionParsnipnulldev: was ok, just a steeper learning curve :)00:25
ActionParsniphomecable: ntop00:25
jointwell.. welcome to the world of amd drivers00:25
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Benkinoobystef1a, ok see if you can run a programm called jockey or something like that... it will look for drivers for your video card00:25
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peterrooneyTen years ago, "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way" was required reading.00:25
nulldevactionparsnip maybe but these gui kids these days00:26
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Benkinoobynulldev, i would not consider that as a disadvantage... those who are serious will come to command line sooner or later :P00:27
hrmartinFirst time here. First time Ubuntu User. Just installed 12.04 on old  HP Pavillion TX1000 running AMD Turion 6400:27
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hrmartinWIFI NOT WORKING. Can someone hep???00:27
Benkinoobynulldev, also gui isn't always a bad thing00:27
Benkinoobystef1a, how's it going?00:28
stef1aBenkinooby: run; it says the ATI/AMD prop FGLRX driver is active00:28
nulldevbenkinooby cli rules end of. GUI is handy for anything I forgot to script00:28
zuma99hi00:29
stef1aBenkinooby: it says the "post-release updates" one is inactive, though00:29
stef1abut iirc i tried to activate that and it didn't work00:29
jointstay away from that post release updates one00:29
jointi have never met anybody that has got that to work00:29
stef1a"...and it didn't work" ;)00:29
jointi dont even know why its there00:29
jointmaybe for the future00:30
zuma99is this an OK channel to ask a question about changelogs for a package that was recently updated?00:30
jointif you want the latest its best to always download and install amd catalyst from the web site00:30
ActionParsnipnulldev: its how the inductry has progressed00:30
Benkinoobystef1a, hm... so i think your first step should be to go for a fitting driver. for that some1 else has to help you. there is also a good article about it in the formus00:31
Benkinooby!video00:31
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:31
nulldevactionparsnip true00:31
Benkinooby!graphic00:31
Benkinooby!ati00:31
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto00:31
stef1aBenkinooby: okay, thank you; i'll take a look later00:31
jointhttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide  save and print that. everything u need to know about amd catalyst and 12.0400:31
Benkinooby!ati stef1a00:31
ActionParsnipnulldev: I've found that as users get used to the OS they tend towards CLI for things though :)00:31
jointamd catalyst support will be a little better in kernel 3.400:32
Benkinoobystef1a, i think you have an ATI graphic card00:32
nulldevthe commnity not Ubuntu but all non generic Linux and BSD fight against windows thats why they suffer from viruses00:32
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Benkinoobystef1a, good luck00:33
nulldevactionparsnip I grew up on cli and basic on a spectrum00:33
nulldevI modified a flight simulator app I copied out of a book and modified it aged 600:35
nulldevI get lost in gui00:35
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jointfedora 17 was released today00:37
ActionParsnipnulldev: same, zx spectrum rocks :)00:37
jointi think thats kernel 3.300:37
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nulldevfedora gets released every day lol00:37
nulldevspectrum FTW00:37
rogerioHi guys!00:37
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ActionParsniphi rogerio00:37
pionarhi rogerio00:38
rogerio:D00:38
rogeriocan u guys help me with video encoding to xVid?00:38
nulldevactionparsnip this is why I love the rasberry pi its teaching kids what we learnt not from school but sitting in front of a computer00:38
Chuck_Norrisaloha rogerio :D00:39
rogerioaloha!00:39
Chuck_Norrisrogerio: arista-transcoder00:39
rogeriohum, so can I use it with Pitivi, for example?00:39
Chuck_Norrisrogerio: mencoder "input.???" -of avi -ovc xvid -oac mp3lame -xvidencopts "fixed_quant=4:aspect=16/9" -lameopts vbr=2:br=128 -vf scale=720:576 -ofps 25 -o "outputs.avi"00:40
rogerioAhh ok, I saw just now that arista is not a codec ;)00:41
KRomoSexwhat is a great podcast program?00:42
roothello00:43
Chuck_Norrisnot, arista is a really good program for transcoding media files: http://www.transcoder.org/   and also see   http://www.transcoder.org/presets/ =P00:43
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nulldevroot is now known as pwned :)00:44
merryman540Hi. My windows system is refusing to open any dvd storage discs that I created a while back. However, I can open the discs in Linux. The disks contain otfe encypted contains (made on the windows pc)-I was wonder if it might be possible to open those encrypted containers in a linux system??00:44
Guest34344:P00:44
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nulldevmerryman50 boot from it if you want to rescue your windoes else stop asking how to reverse windows users in a Linux room00:45
merryman540nulldev: I don't understand what you mean-say again?00:47
eli9Hi all00:47
eli9im a male00:47
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nulldevmerryman500 windows is shit00:47
OgrimThis is a Lunix room and they don't want you trying to ask about Windows00:47
eli9what linux app do u recommend for cutting videos into parts? :)00:47
merryman540nulldev: ok mate. I didn't come on here for an argument.00:48
nulldevmerryman540 Im not either00:48
tomaszcześć jest ktoś z polski00:49
* Star2012 yawns00:49
wilee-nileemerryman540, encryption is done with a app you will need that app to open them I would suspect.00:49
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nulldevwindows is very shit though00:50
escott!language | nulldev00:50
ubottunulldev: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.00:50
FPFL:x00:50
nulldevwindows is poo00:50
FPFLlol00:50
wilee-nilee54321 banned00:50
KRomoSexlol00:52
ActionParsnipnulldev: depends on needs00:53
KRomoSexi just fell in love with a piece of linux software00:53
KRomoSexfor the first time00:53
ActionParsnipKRomoSex: guake maybe?00:53
sbattey_What software?00:53
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KRomoSexno, Clementine00:53
nulldevneeds do matter but what needs differ?00:53
KRomoSexremoved rhythmbox00:53
ActionParsnipKRomoSex: nice choice00:53
ActionParsnipnulldev: playing the latest games not runnable in Wine/cedega etc for one00:54
KRomoSexwhat is guake? replacement terminal?00:54
Dmoleanone know of a CLI docx2html?00:54
merryman540wilee-nilee: (lol good name!) yeh sure the apt is free otfe (on the fly encryption) - I know you can make encrypted linux containers using it - I know linux recognises most things windows but just wondered if anybody might know it I could do this in linux-unecrypt my windows containers.00:54
lorecasterI had to install linux last month, and re-install last week. A fresh-install allows all USB devices to work fine. After a while, my keyboard and mouse (both USB) work, my printer, etc... but no peripherals do. My USB sticks don't work, my JVC HD Camcorder won't connect. All are known-working, and the drives mechanically function. Ideas?00:54
lorecaster(won't recognize my iPhone4 either... nothing00:54
nulldevguake is the equivalent of the quake terminal for gnome00:54
ActionParsniplorecaster: tried setting your USB to legacy mode in BIOS?00:54
zuma99hi...is this an OK channel to ask a question about changelogs for a package that was recently updated?00:55
ActionParsnipKRomoSex: if you use terminal a lot I strongly advise you install it :)00:55
ActionParsnipzuma99: should be ok :)00:55
lorecasterI never touched the bios... in either of these re-installs. I can do as you request, though, if you think it would have chanced wihtout my intervention00:55
nulldevactionparsnip thats all windows is good for games00:55
stuengand outlook00:55
stuengyou cant beat outlook00:55
ActionParsnipnulldev: its all I can think of00:55
harris_how do you unlock ubuntu 12,04 with facial unlock00:56
ActionParsnipstueng: there are loads of native email clients00:56
Dmoleoutlook on mac is nice, windows sucks00:56
merryman540Can I mount windows created otfe containers in linux?00:56
stuengemail clients that pale in signgicance to the features available in an exchange/outlook configuration00:57
harris_how do you unlock ubuntu 12,04 with facial unlock00:57
nulldevthe only time Linux fails is with m$ protocols i.e exchange00:57
jointstueng just use gmail00:57
nulldevpostfix did the job for years00:57
zuma99thanks ActionParsnip i can't seem to get changelogs for the recent updates, such as for libsnmp-base which was updated this week00:57
bsmith093i need qt4.7 stuff for lucid for a little downloader ive been using for 5 months now that recently broke, how do i get it?00:57
Guest16788i've spent a few hours installing ubuntu 12.04 on a friends macbook pro (i've been asking her for years to try it out), and many more hours trying to troubleshoot a NO SOUND issue. not much info on the internet, and i've tried everything i know. anyone here good at troubleshooting sound problems? if i can't get this sorted, it's a deal breaker for her00:58
ActionParsnipstueng: thats the kicker, exchange. If you get a groupwise server you'll see all that is available in evolution00:58
zuma99when i try (using aptitude) i get Couldn't fetch URL http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/n/net-snmp/net-snmp_5.4.2.1~dfsg0ubuntu1-0ubuntu2.2/changelog00:58
zuma99because there actually isn't a changelog posted there00:58
zuma99i was just wondering where to report something like this00:58
ActionParsnipzuma99: try:  sudo apt-get update00:58
nulldevyou can connect to an exchange server via imap00:58
nulldevnothing m$ with imap00:59
Ben64is there any easy guide to upgrading 10.04 to 12.04 without unity and keeping gnome-panel00:59
zuma99ActionParsnip well, actually the update itself installed fine00:59
bluefox83ok so, i created a new user and it can log into gnome or unity just fine, my orignal user account on the other hand...can't. how do i fix that?00:59
bluefox83whenever it tries to login to the other one, it just returns to the login screen00:59
ActionParsnipBen64: sudo do-release-upgrade    should do it01:00
zuma99it's just the changelog that doesn't seem to be there (for other of the packages that were updated this week also)01:00
harris_how do you unlock ubuntu 12,04 with facial unlock01:00
merryman540Maybe I could mount the windows created otfe containers in linux using truecrypt?01:00
ActionParsnipzuma99: as there bugs reported?01:00
Ben64ActionParsnip: did you see the second half of the question?01:00
ActionParsnipBen64: you will probably get unity installed but you have gnome-panel installed which will also be installed01:01
harris_how do you unlock ubuntu 12,04 with facial unlock01:01
zuma99ActionParsnip yes, the changelog is normally useful because it shows what bugs are fixed.  i normally look at them when i do updates01:01
bluefox83harris_: you can't01:01
harris_yes you can i have seen youtube01:01
ActionParsnipzuma99: could use http://www.launchpad.net01:01
bluefox83harris_: then find the youtube instructions01:01
ActionParsnipbluefox83: you can with a ppa01:01
bluefox83because no one here knows how01:01
harris_it doesnt have any01:01
zuma99ActionParsnip thanks...i'll give that a try01:01
ActionParsnipharris_: you could reinstall with Oneiric and use that guide I posted01:01
Ben64ActionParsnip: i have yet to see a way to keep the same functionality with 12.0401:01
nulldevharris sounds like your using gentoo not ubuntu01:02
ActionParsnipBen64:01:02
* bluefox83 has seen no end of trouble with 12.0401:02
ActionParsnipBen64: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/01:02
Ben64ooh, the title sounds good, thanks01:02
ActionParsnipbluefox83: i've had the same, I just deleted the hidden folders in $HOME and logged in ok01:02
ActionParsnipBen64: its just using gnome-panel as the shell instead of Unity, nothing clever01:03
bluefox83ActionParsnip: are you kidding me? there are lots of hidden folders in there!01:03
harris_ActionParsnip, is there a code that lets you run old apps01:03
Ben64ActionParsnip: don't need clever :)01:03
nulldevlol a deleting hidden folders in /home01:03
ActionParsnipBen64: like I said, you already have gnome-panel installed and it will be upgraded with the rest01:03
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ActionParsnipharris_: no, unfortunately not. You could contact the PPA maintainer to see if s/he will support Precise later01:04
SilversongWhen 12.10 comes out full release, should I stick with this LTS Precise or upgrade?01:04
ActionParsnipnulldev: $HOME not /home01:04
Ben64Silversong: depends what you want01:04
ActionParsnipnulldev: it made it work for me :)01:04
nulldev$HOME is /home01:04
SilversongBen64: What's new in Q.Q.?01:04
ActionParsnipbluefox83: you could always back them up and restore one by one01:04
ActionParsnipnulldev: $HOME == /home/$USER01:05
KRomoSexi have a question, when new versions of ubuntu come out can i just upgrade over existing install01:05
KRomoSexor must i use an iso every time01:05
Ben64Silversong: "As this will be the first of a series of three releases before the next LTS release, Shuttleworth indicated that it will include a refreshed look, with work to be done on typography and iconography."01:05
ActionParsnipKRomoSex: yes, you can upgrade to the next realease01:05
KRomoSexdo i even need an iso or will it update itself?01:05
ActionParsnipKRomoSex: if you stay on the LTS release, you can upgrade to the next LTS when it comes out01:05
nulldev$HOME is a variable == is a checksum it could have been = /home/$user is replaced by the var01:06
ActionParsnipnulldev: try:  echo $HOME01:06
KRomoSexwhat makes lts diff from anything else?01:06
ActionParsnipKRomoSex: longer support, trying to get more stable packages in the repos01:06
ActionParsnip!lts01:06
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)01:06
nulldevenviroment variable too sorry01:06
KRomoSexhow often are there lts versions?01:06
ActionParsnipKRomoSex: every 2 years01:07
KRomoSexoh01:07
KRomoSexi didnt think that long01:07
ActionParsnipKRomoSex: 12.04 (Precise) is LTS01:07
ActionParsnipKRomoSex: its also the newest stable release01:07
GG111when I hit the "super" key and try to search for any application, nothing shows up. how can I fix it ?01:07
KRomoSexis lts the only stable releases?01:07
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harris_how to run oneric programs on percise01:08
bluefox83i can't figure out why the heck my main user is locked out :(01:08
zizooHey guys. I don't know the word for this or I'd have looked it up, but how can I create a stream to aggregate input from multiple sources and feed them into another program's stdin?01:08
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harris_how to run oneric programs on percise01:09
Ben64harris_: you don't01:09
harris_i need to though01:09
strictlandhello everyone, so i am almost done configuring samba, I ran testparm and got http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014017/, here is my smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014020/. I'm concerned about 3 warning messages 1- WARNING: The "null passwords" option is deprecated 2-WARNING: The security=share option is deprecated and 3-WARNING: 'workgroup' and 'netbios name' must differ. -Any help is appreciated!01:09
ActionParsnipGG111: I've seen this, gomme a sec01:09
Ben64harris_: then compile it yourself?01:10
nulldevsamba same as m$ sucks01:10
harris_what does compile mean01:10
ActionParsnipharris_: you don't NEED face unlocking. you WANT it, there is a world of differnce01:10
Ben64!compile | harris_01:10
ubottuharris_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall01:10
KRomoSexso, wuill 12.10 be the next lts?01:10
Dmolenm found docx4j01:10
IdleOne!guidelines > nulldev01:10
ubottunulldev, please see my private message01:10
MagicJI have a system where lpstat is showing that the printer, which is just a generic printer, is "accepting requests", it seems to be too, in that I cal "lp" files to it.  Yet the jobs just remain in the queue - I know that if I remove and re-install the printer (software) it will work again.  But then be lost when I re-boot - how do I find/fix what is wrong here?01:10
harris_i remeber being told a code that let me01:10
Ben64KRomoSex: 14.0401:11
ActionParsnipGG111: mv ~/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite ~       log off, then log on01:11
ActionParsnipKRomoSex: the first number is the year, the second is the month ;)01:11
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ActionParsnipharris_: you can but its not supported or advised and will more than likely break your OS01:12
KRomoSexso.....i see 12.10 is in beta when is that scheduled for release as stable?01:12
Guest71809I was wondering what is the best Linux distro to start off on I meaning learning in a command line not a GUI interface:)01:12
Ben64KRomoSex: 12.10 = 2012.1001:12
zizooI just want a realtime output text stream that I can send input to manually or by other scripts and have it go into my program as its standard input.01:12
jointkromo.. october01:12
zizooOr even for someone to just tell me what search terms I should use to find that.01:12
harushimowhat is the vmplayer for ubuntu?01:12
Ben64zizoo: mkfifo?01:13
KRomoSexso last dumb question....do i want to upgrade from 12.04 lts to 12.10 when 12.10 is released?01:13
harushimoI'm using virtual box. I'm just curious about the vm player01:13
KRomoSexwhy wait for lts?01:13
Ben64KRomoSex: if you want to01:13
jointkromo.. most likely.. if you like to run the most updated stuff01:13
zizooAh! Thanks Ben64. This looks exactly right.01:13
KRomoSex Ubuntu 12.04.1 august 23rd is next major rel?01:14
ActionParsnipKRomoSex: its a personal choice, some people do. I like grabbing the latest Alpha releases01:14
Shant_Is this the right place for support quesiotns?01:14
Ben64Shant_: for ubuntu, yes01:14
KRomoSexi wanted to grab alpha releases but i hosed my systyem yesterda when i installed kernel 3.401:14
UltimediaOShey ppl... somebody knows a good IRC client package ?01:15
jointnot major... thats just an update for 12.0401:15
KRomoSexso now idk what to do01:15
jointubuntu releases a new os every 6 months. the lts is more for businesses or people who dont like to update all the time01:15
Shant_I changed some appearance settings in my superuser account, in 12.04, and now when I try to login, it jsut freezes. I am on the Guest account, can I access the user's options form the guest account?01:15
Guest71809what is the best OS for low performance I dont want Ubuntu01:16
wilee-nileeShant_, you tweaked compiz?01:16
KRomoSexisnt there lubuntu?01:16
jointtry mint with mate01:16
Shant_Well, I did to reduce icon sizes, but that's not what caused the problem01:16
Shant_The problem was when I truned off sticky edges01:17
wilee-nileejoink, mint is not a issue here and not supported01:17
ActionParsnipUltimediaOS: pidgin for me, I'm on irssi from work now :)01:17
Shant_And I set the unity launcher to only appear on one screen (dual screen)01:17
Guest71809KRomosex: I uesed that before and it sucket it was not even for lower perfornce. Am looking for something that does not use a lot of memmory01:17
wilee-nileejoint, mint is not a issue here and not supported01:17
ActionParsnipKRomoSex: thats because its a 3rd party kernel. 3.4 is for Quantal01:17
jointmint is ubuntu01:17
Ben64mint is not ubuntu01:18
Ben64!mint01:18
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org01:18
ActionParsnipjoint: mint is mint, ubuntu is ubuntu01:18
tr3ntonI have installed a package via a deb, replacing the version installed from the repo's. Is there a recommended way to enforce the package manager not to update the software from the repo?01:18
tr3ntonI did do : echo "nvidia-current hold" | dpkg --set-selections, as suggested at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto ; but this doesn't seem to apply in the gui update-manager ..... do i have to use synaptic package manager (gui) to prevent the update coming through in update-manager?01:18
reisioit is Ubuntu, but that doesn't mean it's supported here :p01:18
Guest71809Is there a distro out there that uses low memory?????01:18
jointi wasnt supporting it...01:18
reisioGuest71809: how low?01:18
ActionParsnipGuest71809: Lubuntu01:18
reisiojoint: nothing else to say, then :)01:18
jointok then.. so be quiet :)01:18
ActionParsnipGuest71809: tinycore, puppy, feather, slitaz01:18
reisiono! :p01:18
reisioGuest71809: except none of those01:19
ActionParsnipGuest71809: if you want super low, just install ubuntu minimal then install fluxbox :)01:19
Guest71809reisio: ActionParsnip: I used lubuntu it did not work for what am looking for:) Am looking for the internet and office work that is it:)01:19
jointben 64 in marketing yes... technically, no01:19
reisioGuest71809: how'd lubuntu not manage that?01:19
OptimizedCoderBasic UNIX/LINUX question. Saw once a program/app/binary is started with a set of args/flags (that you parse in that app/program), its allocated a pid. Afterwards - without killing the process, is it possible to append another flag/arg?01:19
jointmint is ubuntu with alternative desktops01:19
robotdevilIs the fglrx driver pooched for 12.04?01:20
Guest71809reisio: It was taken so much memory:(01:20
reisioOptimizedCoder: sometimes, sometimes not01:20
ActionParsnipjoint: and has its own repos and different settings01:20
reisioOptimizedCoder: things you can modify after starting are often called daemons01:20
OptimizedCoderreisio, What do you mean by that ?01:20
Shant_Anyone know how to change superuser settings from guest account in 12.04?01:20
reisioOptimizedCoder: just what I said :P01:20
jointaction.. it uses the ubuntu repos01:20
ActionParsnipjoint: on your theory you could say mint is debian, which it isnt01:20
reisioShant_: by knowing the root password01:20
Ben64Guest71809: could use damnsmalllinux01:20
Shant_yes but where do I go01:20
ActionParsnipjoint: doesn't matter, its still not supported here01:20
OptimizedCoderreisio, Lets say I start it in a daemonized/backgrounded fashion to begin with01:20
jointubuntu is debian...01:20
ActionParsnipShant_: you can reset passwords from the root recovery mode01:21
ActionParsnipjoint: its not, its ubuntu01:21
Guest71809I have 4GB of Ram and my computer over heats really easy and I need a Operating system that does not use alot of anything so it can keep cool. Ben64: Am going to see about that one Damnsmallinux:)01:21
jointok then...01:21
jointi must have read wrong01:21
Shant_I have passwords, I just screwed uo some display settings, and I need to change them from guest01:21
Ben64Guest71809: you could just fix the overheating problem. :)01:21
ActionParsnipjoint: if ubuntu is debian, you could get ubuntu support in #debian but they will simply tell you to ask here01:21
reisiojoint: you read right, it's just off topic :p01:22
jointaction not really.. it depends on the question they ask01:22
reisioActionParsnip: only if you tell them you're using Ubuntu :p01:22
ActionParsnipjoint: its a different distro so isn't suported there01:22
ActionParsnipjoint: its really quite simple01:22
jointok like i said before.. i wasnt supporting it01:22
jointyou seem to keep talking about it though01:22
Shant_Joint, you might be misunderstanding the meaning of support?01:23
MechanisMhello. who can help me with creating ppa?01:23
jointplease stop harrasing me01:23
reisiojoint: it's just they don't want you idly chatting about it here, either :p01:23
jointplease01:23
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ActionParsnipMechanisM: I'd ask in #launchpad01:23
jointlike i said. i wasnt supporting it01:24
Guest71809Ben64: But how can I fix that I dont have alot of opition in my BIOS:)01:24
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Shant_I will ask again, yes or no01:24
Shant_Oh sorry01:24
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robotdevilIs the fglrx driver broken for 12.04?01:25
reisiojoint: right, but they don't want you even making the comparison, as it's not the purpose of thise channel :p01:25
jointlol you still talking?01:25
reisiorobotdevil: try another kernel01:25
reisiojoint: are you? :p01:25
jointno i was in the bathroom...01:26
Shant_Just, yes or no, is it possible from the guest account, on 12.04, to change the settings of the superuser account, knowing the password, because when I login to SU account, the computer crashes.01:26
robotdevilreisio: you mean an older version01:26
reisioI don't talk in there, either01:26
wyldeGuest71809: clean the fans/ports, and/or replace failing fans etc?01:26
reisiorobotdevil: or newer01:26
reisioShant_: yes of course01:26
Shant_Where would I go?01:26
reisioShant_: that depends on what you want to change01:26
Shant_Appearance settings01:26
reisioShant_: what about them01:27
robotdevilreisio: can you dl form synaptic, would nt may system already have the newest one01:27
Guest71809wylde: I clean the fan or ready. I bought a new fan and I took it back because people said it was worth less to buy one. But it keeping doing the same thing I need that fan again:)01:27
UltimediaOSActionParsnip: i enjoy  pidgin myself :D - but i you hangle several accounts it gets confusing01:27
robotdevilreisio: avaliable in the repo that is01:27
Shant_Well, when I turned off sticky edges and, on dual screen, set the launcher to be on only one, the computer kept crashing, so I want to change it back01:27
wyldeGuest71809: I bet the folks in #hardware would have lots of suggestions for you.01:27
reisiorobotdevil: it might, it might not01:27
robotdevilreisio: ok01:28
K350midnight commander question. What key(s) opens the menu?01:28
ActionParsnipUltimediaOS: I only use it for IRC, its an old habit01:28
reisioShant_: 'su - user', 'cd', 'mv ~/.config/ ~/backup1.config/'01:28
jointshant what radeon do you have?01:28
reisioK350: menu?01:28
Shant_Are those to be typed one at a time in the terminal?01:29
reisioShant_: yup01:29
jointthe ubuntu supplied amd driver is not always the best solution for the later, and more powerful video cards01:29
K350reisio: yes - menu.01:29
reisioK350: didn't realize mc had a menu01:30
K350reisio: It has :-)01:30
Shant_reisio: when I type su - shant, (the user), then fill the password, it says setgid: Operation not permitted01:31
ZaehlasAnyone here familiar with the default installation of unetbootin?  I'm having issues on one of my computers where the "browse" doesn't show any files on the computer, and not sure if it's using wine or it's own config file to determine where it is looking for a file system...01:31
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Guest4414Hello I have a problem which no matter what I have tried hasn't been fixed, and I believe you pros will be able to help me out.01:32
Guest4414I have two monitors and Nvidia X Server Settings detects both but the Ubuntu default "Displays" does not.01:33
reisioGuest4414: so... what's the problem?01:33
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Guest4414I can not use my second display at all.01:33
escottShant_, have you tried logging in to tty1 and doing the mv that way? ctrl-alt-f101:34
reisioGuest4414: it displays, but doesn't work?01:34
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Guest4414Let me upload a screenshot.01:35
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Jordan_UShant_: ctrl+alt+F7 or F8 to get back to a GUI.01:35
Shant_escott: I am not sure I understand "doing the mv"01:35
Jordan_Uescott: Whenever mentioning switching to another tty, meake sure that the user knows how to get *back* or you'll just see the ping timeout in the channel as they pull the plug to reboot :)01:36
Zaehlasif no one is here that is familiar with unetbootin, is there a room I can check with?  #unetbootin exists, but no one is there...01:36
escottShant_, reisio suggested you "su and then execute mv ~/.config ..." but you could also just ctrl-alt-f1, login as shant there and directly run the mv01:36
cogHow do I scan for viruses?01:36
Guest4414http://bit.ly/JsQCtY01:37
jointuse microsoft security essentials01:37
escottShant_, ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to the gui01:37
Zaehlasrofl01:37
botanhey guys, i am using grsync to backup some files - i get 8 files with errors: http://pastebin.com/Xkaketqr  -- i wonder if it is a filename issue or what is going wrong?01:37
Jordan_U!virus | cog01:37
ubottucog: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus01:37
FezzlerSwitched to Lubuntu last night.  Was on 11.10.  Update Manager wants me to upgrade to 12.X.  Should I?  Will I stall have LXDE?01:37
Guest4414http://bit.ly/JsQCtY <---- Screenshot of Nvidia + default ubuntu displays01:37
phixhmmm is there are way to tell newly opened applications to get focus and go on top of other windows?  I open up nautalis and it opens but doesn't pop up automatically01:39
Jordan_UGuest4414: That's expected when using proprietary drivers. Ubuntu's Display manager should have also given you a warning about that though.01:39
Guest4414So what should  I do?01:39
Jordan_UGuest4414: Use Nvidia's configuration tool.01:40
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ActionParsnipphix: what session are you logging i to?01:40
Guest4414Jordan_U: May you be a little more specific?01:41
phixActionParsnip: gnome fall back01:41
phixActionParsnip: I absolutely hate unity, it is the worst decision Ubuntu has made so far01:41
phixwell besides using / forcing network manager01:41
ActionParsnipphix: using Compiz or not?01:41
phixActionParsnip: not01:42
phixActionParsnip: I have disbaled all pretty gfx effects and what not01:42
Jordan_UGuest4414: In your screenshot the tool on the right is Nvidia's configuration tool, the tool on the left is Ubuntu's. As long as you're using Nvidia's drivers you'll also need to use Nvidia's configuration tool.01:42
ActionParsnipphix: makes the OS more stable :). I hate compiz as much as you seem to hate Unity :D01:42
Guest4414I have tried to enable it through that it does nothing. ;(]01:43
SpudsterAnyone know of a simpler way of doing this in Ubuntu without creating a Ruby script? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157808701:45
ActionParsnipGuest4414: if you hit detect displays a lot, does the other display jump up?01:45
Guest4414ActionParsnip: Nope.01:46
KRomoSexi just installed google chrome and when watching videos, the audio is crackly01:47
KRomoSexdoesnt do it on chromium 1901:47
GG111ActionParsnip: thank you , will try and report back01:48
ApocalyptikzO01:48
ApocalyptikzI'm trying to get my user back to default. What files do I need to rename?01:49
escottApocalyptikz, /var/log/Xorg.0.log. to go back to what you had you would "rm -rf .config; mv .config.bak .config"01:50
phuongvoHi, I don't know how to use scalatest. Can you help me?01:51
ForSpareParts2Hey guys, I'm trying to chroot into a failed upgrade to finish it -- how can I tell what in /dev/ is my hard drive?01:53
vexaxvhey guys on ubuntu 12.04 how do i edit my partitions, im using gparted but sda is active because im using ubuntu so is there a way to boot into gparted withought booting into my hard drive to edit the partitions01:53
ActionParsnipvexaxv: use liveCD01:53
dwarderguys, cheap vps?01:54
vexaxvActionParsnip, thanks01:54
Apocalyptikzescott, I see "fglrx: No matching Device section for instance... found"01:54
KRomoSexanyone having trouble with adobe flash 11.3 beta?01:56
KRomoSexthe audio seems to crackle, 11.2 works fine01:56
jointi wouldnt use a flash beta01:57
KRomoSexok01:57
FezzlerI was on 11.10 and Unity but switched to Lubuntu and LXDE.  Should I upgrade to 12.04, even though I've gone Lubuntu?01:57
tr3ntonForSpareParts2: df ?01:58
vexaxvany idea why i have a extended 5 gig partition on ubuntu 12.04? im installing on someone elses pc and it doesent give an option for extended partition01:58
ForSpareParts2Sorry, what does df mean?01:58
vexaxvcan i just delete it?01:58
tr3nton!df | ForSpareParts201:59
ubottuForSpareParts2: Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T01:59
ForSpareParts2tr3nton, thanks.02:00
ActionParsnipFezzler: you can use LXDE in 12.0402:01
bluefox83ok, so i discovered that only my primary user is locked out of X, i created a new user and it accesses X just fine. so why can't my main user get past the login screen?02:01
shawny78how does one get their Radeon 5850 working properly on Ubuntu 10.11  ... also, how can one test that it is working?02:02
FezzlerActionParsnip>> Thanks.  Any benefit to upgrade if using LXDE?02:02
scisohi i am trying to use the Hud but it will only give me desktop options nothing todo with the active app02:02
FezzlerActionParsnip>> Everything working.  Hate to mess with it.02:02
ActionParsnipezsmoke:02:03
ActionParsnipFezzler: later drivers, newer kernel etc02:03
ActionParsnipFezzler: if it ain't broke, don't fix it :)02:03
shawny78....11.1002:03
cryptotheslyvexaxv, the extended partition most likely contains swap space. Have a look at /etc/fstab to see if that is the case - although that can be confusing if you chose the option to ecrypt home dir during install02:03
AcidRain2012my box hates me.02:03
AcidRain2012still havent fixed why software center wont click "install now" button02:04
ActionParsnipAcidRain2012: if you close software centre and run:  gksudo software-center    does it work ok?02:04
scisobluefox83 have you tried logging into ubity 2d or any other desktop environment02:05
defryskI would like to congrat the developers of ubuntu with Unity , I hated it but for some reason it run flawless in 1204 . Maybe I should see a doctor for appreciating unity in 1204?02:06
ForSpareParts2Okay, so I'm pretty sure my disk is /dev/sda02:07
ActionParsnipdefrysk: tastes change dude :)02:07
ForSpareParts2but I can't mount it.02:07
ActionParsnipForSpareParts2: you don't mount /dev/sda02:07
ForSpareParts2OK. What do I do?02:07
ActionParsnipForSpareParts2: you mount the partitions on the drive02:07
defryskActionParsnip, I guess it can :-)02:07
ActionParsnipForSpareParts2: the first partition will most likely be /dev/sda102:07
scisohi i am trying to use the Hud but it will only give me desktop options nothing todo with the active app has any1 else had this02:08
ActionParsnipsciso: tried it in lots of apps?02:08
ForSpareParts2ActionParsnip, so when I try to mount that, it says that I "must specify the filesystem type"02:08
ActionParsnipsciso: like gimp02:08
ActionParsnipForSpareParts2: what file system does it use?02:08
ForSpareParts2Whatever the Ubuntu default is, I believe.02:09
scisoive tryed gimp gedit and firefox02:09
scisoActionParsnip,  ive tryed gimp gedit and firefox02:09
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FezzlerActionParsnip>> Amen to that.  I'll run updates but not upgrade yet02:11
dwarderanyone uses vps?02:11
dwarderi need a cheap one to install vpn02:12
dwarderwill that 1$/month https://www.fastvps.co/ do the trick02:12
dwarder?02:12
shawny78ok, maybe a different question, can anyone tell me why my HD5850 would be telling me that it is a 6800?02:12
ActionParsnipFezzler: could wait for it to die then clean install / upgrade to Precise :)02:12
OerHeksdwarder, does it run on ubuntu  ?02:13
dwarderOerHeks: yes02:13
FezzlerActionParsnip>> LOL.  I'm planning to run this AMD K6-266 to 202002:13
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cryptotheslydwarder, what do you intend to run on it? I can't imagine a $1 vps having much allocated 'grunt'.02:14
dwardercryptothesly: vps02:15
dwardercryptothesly: vpn02:15
dwardersorry02:15
ActionParsnipFezzler: I would too :)02:15
dwardercryptothesly: openvpn02:16
dwardercryptothesly: server02:16
cryptotheslydwarder, not sure how far you are going to get with just 128MB ram on that $1 thing. I'm not sure that even meets ubuntu server min requirements02:17
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CoJaBoIs it possible to install MeshLab on Jaunty? Old, I know, but I cannot update this machine :/02:18
ActionParsnipCoJaBo: jaunty isnt supported anymore02:19
CoJaBoActionParsnip: I know; I cannot take the machine down long enough to do an upgrade.02:19
patrick__Hello I am back and my problem is a little better now but could be better02:19
CoJaBoThe problem is tho, it gives syntax errors even trying to compile it; and the MeshLab documentation is down.02:20
patrick__My second screen is just white02:20
OerHeksCoJaBo, well, there is a trick, add "old-releases  > http://www.snowfrog.net/2009/05/02/apt-sourceslist-for-old-versions-of-ubuntu/02:20
ForSpareParts2ActionParsnip, I'm not sure what my filesystem is, but ext4 doesn't seem to work...02:21
ForSpareParts2er, nevermind02:21
ForSpareParts2It was SDA2.02:21
cryptotheslydwarder, just checked - 128MB is minimum requirement for ubuntu server. You might just get away running openvpn on that vps although I thin you'll be relying on burst RAM most of the time which may or may not be useable.02:21
* ForSpareParts2 facepalms.02:21
dwardercryptothesly: ok, i'll just try02:22
CoJaBoOerHeks: I've done that already; the error I get trying to install from apt is "Package meshlab is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:22
CoJaBoThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:22
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CoJaBois only available from another source02:22
CoJaBoE: Package meshlab has no installation candidate02:22
CoJaBothat was supposed to be one line..02:22
FloodBot1CoJaBo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:22
cryptotheslydwarder, worth a shot as long as there is no long term contract tie-in - check the T&Cs before committing.02:22
CoJaBoOerHeks: I'm not sure why it wouldn't at least compile tho :/02:23
dwardercryptothesly: well, i'll have to pay for a year so it is 12$ per year02:23
CerrdorOk I installed eggdrop from apt-get now where the heck is it?02:24
OerHeksCoJaBo, upgrade to 12.04 or better a fresh install02:24
CoJaBoOerHeks: The machine I can do that on is an Intel Atom; the good one, I cannot upgrade at this time.02:25
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artaleeheloo.. help me02:26
reisiodone02:26
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artaleei have a problem in procces remastering02:27
CerrdorOk I installed eggdrop from apt-get now where the heck is it?02:27
CaptWhocan someone recommend a ddns service?02:28
jribCaptWho: no-ip.com?02:28
cryptotheslydwarder, I'd be inclined to take the FAST256MB $2.99 for a month and use that to assess the reliability of the servers and get an accurate idea of actual ram usage, then commit to the year sub for $12 if it fits.02:28
jribCaptWho: dpkg -L eggdrop, but why do you need to know?02:28
jribcryptothesly: erm, ignore my last02:28
jribagh!@02:28
jribCaptWho: erm, ignore my last02:29
cryptotheslylol02:29
jribCerrdor: dpkg -L eggdrop, but why do you need to know02:29
jribcryptothesly: 3 c's in a row :P02:29
thauriswulfaHELP: how to set different wallpapers for different workspaces on xubuntu?02:29
cryptotheslyjrib, autocomplete wins xD02:29
CerrdorSo I can configure02:29
ZeloZelosthauriswulfa, you can do it with compiz..only way i know of02:30
jribCerrdor: should probably read the docs that got installed with it02:30
dwardercryptothesly: yeah, i'll take one month fast 25602:30
CoJaBoAhh, theres enough space I can dual-boot.. That might work...02:30
CaptWhojrib -  i want to host my mail server02:30
Cerrdorcant read the docs if you dont know where its located02:30
Cerrdornow can we02:30
jribCerrdor: I just gave you a command02:30
ZeloZelosthauriswulfa, actualy , thats the only way i know of that dosent make it to where you cant see your icons02:30
thauriswulfathauriswulfa: so not possible without compiz?02:31
xokeHellp02:31
xokeHello?02:31
AVPdoes blender 2.49b has the transparency function?02:31
xoke I saw online an opening for op here02:31
bazhangAVP, try #blender02:31
CoJaBoOerHeks: Does meshlab install from apt-get on 12.x? It did not on my 11.x machine..02:31
OerHeks!info meshlab02:32
ubottumeshlab (source: meshlab): System for processing and editing triangular meshes. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.3.0a+dfsg1-2 (precise), package size 6614 kB, installed size 17720 kB02:32
AVPbazhang, nobody answered02:32
bazhangAVP, be patient02:32
AVPbazhang, ok02:33
longbaohoanghi there02:36
longbaohoanganything funny here02:36
tonesfrommarslolz02:36
bazhang!ot | longbaohoang02:36
ubottulongbaohoang: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:36
jointyea.. take a look in the mirror!02:37
lixbazhang: which implies, Ubuntu is not funny?02:37
ActionParsniplix: this is support only..02:37
tr3nton!funny02:38
ubottuYou might think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users who follow your advice or irritate people who attempt to answer your question.02:38
ZeloZelosbazhang goto #ubuntu-offtopic and bs away :)02:38
jointthey booted me out of ubuntu-offtopic for talking about the new world order02:39
* lix thinks joint is funny02:39
cryptotheslyquelle surprise02:39
dr_willisits ot to talk about ot.02:39
dr_willismain us servers been slow this holiday weekend?  or has it just been some isp issues ive been having?02:41
longbaohoangSorry, but I'm new here. Just wanna ask that can I install Ubuntu dual with Windows 7.02:41
bazhang!dualboot | longbaohoang02:41
dr_willislongbaohoang: yes. thats a common way to do it02:41
ubottulongbaohoang: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot02:41
dr_willislongbaohoang:  hopefully your pc maker has not used 4 primary partitions on the hard drive allready02:42
ActionParsnipdr_willis: tried apt-fast ?02:43
dr_willisActionParsnip:  seen that mentioned, not tried it.02:43
dr_willisseems onb the weekends my server speeds get slow to the updates.. or it may be my isp/connection gets slow due to all the people watching netflix,  or somthing. ;)02:44
ActionParsnipdr_willis: it's apt-get + axel  downloads from 3 places, makes things faster#02:44
ActionParsnipdr_willis: might help with the slowness02:44
longbaohoangI have a ThinkPad X220t, if I try to cut my C partitions and install Ubuntu, will I lost my laptop factory reset?02:44
reisiolongbaohoang: only if something goes wrong02:45
dr_willislongbaohoang:  most pcs have a 'restore' partition you shoud always make a restore-dvd set if you want to keep windows.02:45
reisiowell, you should always make a backup of anything you want to be sure to have a copy of02:46
reisioburning to DVDs is one way to do that02:46
reisioanother is to dd to a file on another disk02:46
dr_williseven if you dont put linux on it... allways make a set or 2 of those02:46
reisiowaste of time02:46
escottlongbaohoang, i've found that those "windows recovery dvd's" never work. the only thing that seems to work is a windows backup to an external device02:46
reisioan external drive will serve you better in the long run, cost less in the long run, and be simpler to use immediately02:46
ActionParsnipreisio: PITA more like02:46
dr_willisi tend to just buy a new hard drive for my laptops ;) keep the original somewhere safe. and replace it with one that always seems to be 2x tghe size for just a few $02:47
reisioActionParsnip: yeah02:47
reisioI... don't backup Windows anymore02:47
longbaohoangBut my laptop have no DVD driver. It's a X series, you know.02:47
reisioafter deleting so many 50GB backups, you learn to not waste your time doing it any longer02:47
reisioI might backup a reinstall partition, as those are usually no more than 10GB02:47
dr_willislongbaohoang:  external usb optical drives are cheap02:47
reisiobut only for other people not myself :p02:48
lixlongbaohoang: us a memorystick instead02:48
cryptotheslylongbaohoang, use the Windows utilities to resize a Windows partition. Anything after XP tends to get all twisted if you use something like gParted to manipulate them.02:48
reisionah gparted will work02:48
reisiobut there's no 100% guarantee it will02:48
dr_willisi tend to keep a laptop for like 2 years then pass it on to my brother or other faimly. so its easier for me to pop back in that old laptops original hd. and they got a new system ;)02:48
reisioit's more like 98%02:48
escottcryptothesly, i've never had a problem02:48
cryptotheslyescott, lucky you02:48
reisiocould be luck :p02:49
reisiocould be something else :D02:49
escottcryptothesly, im just wondering if there is something unusual about your windows systems. but i've moved NTFS partitions all around the disk and its always booted just fine02:50
reisioit's definitely a good idea to defrag first02:51
dr_willisdefragging... how quaint.. ;P02:52
reisioindeed :p02:52
dr_willisalways amuseing to  see the look on a windows users face when you tell them that youve never needed to  defrag  your linux box...,02:53
lixdefrag is ot, guys!02:53
ActionParsnipyeah dr_willis  you install to ext2...right :)02:53
dr_willisBEosFs! ;)02:53
reisiodr_willis: and other things02:54
dr_willisHavent heard much news on the 'new filesystems' front lately either.02:54
ActionParsnipkeep user docs, swap space, temp  and system on different partitions in windows and you wont have to defrag windows nearly as much02:54
dr_willisive had newly formated hard drives.. i copy a few files to.. then windows tools say its fragmenetd..  at less then 1% iin use... go  figure.02:55
cryptotheslyescott, nothing unusual - factory restore partition, followed by a Win7 partition. Resizing the Win7 partition using gParted has caused it to go dirty twice. Not had that problem using disk utils in Win7. Hardly empirical science I know :)02:55
dr_willisWhat is the name of the next generation Filesystem that was all the rage a few months back? Btrfs? i havent seen it mentioned on blog sites lately02:56
cryptotheslyIs that B-tree based?02:56
ActionParsnipdr_willis: i tried it on my lappy, seemed to run slower02:57
cryptotheslySeem to remember B-tree being the next big thing 5 years ago...  think that was in relation to databases though.02:57
AVPhey i use 10.04 can it run tar.gz apps?02:58
KRomoi think im gonna go back to win 7 lol02:58
KRomovery frustrated tonight02:58
KRomoanyone running google chrome on ubuntu?02:59
cryptotheslyAVP, tar.gz are compressed archives. Whether you can run what is contained in them depends on what it is really.03:00
ActionParsnipKRomo: i do03:00
KRomoi need help with it03:01
ActionParsnipKRomo: whats teh issue?03:01
cryptotheslyKRomo, sorry to hear that. Chromium seems to be running OK here if that's any help :/03:01
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dr_willisChrome/CHromium working  on my ubuntu box fine  here also.03:02
dr_willisAndchat on my phone however..... still crashing. :)03:02
KRomoi keep getting aprofile error03:02
AVPcryptothesly: so that's a no no03:02
ActionParsnipKRomo: tried renaming your profile folder for Chrome?03:02
KRomohow do i get to thew folder?03:03
KRomonow out of the blue, the error is gone03:03
dr_willisself correcting ;)03:03
KRomogrrrr03:03
KRomolol03:03
lix#ubuntu is magic03:04
dr_willisso .. do we still send KRomo  a bill? ;)03:04
ActionParsnipKRomo: test for a few days03:04
KRomolol03:04
ActionParsnipdr_willis: sure, for the same price as the OS ;)03:04
KRomoi feel like sucha tool lol03:04
* dr_willis closes the ticket03:04
* lix sends the bill03:04
tr3ntonI find some of the about://flags in chrome(ium) cause that profile error for me, occasionally03:05
KRomoevery time i opened chrom,e it said myt profile couldnt be read and then my history was empty03:05
ActionParsnipspeeddial2 in chrome is awesome03:05
ActionParsnipKRomo: is it ok now though?03:06
KRomoit seems so :)03:06
KRomoi didnt do anything tho03:06
dr_willisKRomo:  wonder if you ever accidently ran the browser as root.  that can goof up permissions on some files03:06
cryptotheslyAVP, it's not a no no for sure. tar.gz can quite happily be extracted on Ubuntu. Whether what is contained will run on Ubuntu will depend on whether it is already compiled and what it was compiled for. If it's not compiled then it ~should~ be possible to compile and run it. If you can be more specific about what tar.gz you have it might be helpful.03:06
tr3ntonthere's some new extension for remote access: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gbchcmhmhahfdphkhkmpfmihenigjmpp , could be cool :D03:06
AVPcryptothesly: blender03:08
ActionParsniptr3nton: not bad :)03:08
dr_willis!info blender03:08
ubottublender (source: blender): Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.62-1 (precise), package size 20658 kB, installed size 52038 kB03:08
dr_willissome days i  wonder about  theuse of subjective terms like 'very fast and versatile' in  descriptions. ;)03:10
ActionParsnipdr_willis: if you read the reviews, someone seems to think its not so fast ;)03:10
dr_willisgetting where its harder and harder to filter out what you dont want from an apt-cache search listing03:11
dr_willisat least it dosenthave the coders name in the description like ive seen on some packages03:11
cryptotheslymy steam-powered mechanical differencing engine is fast and versatile in relation to earlier alternatives ;)03:11
reisioI have a quantum steam powered analytical engine03:12
reisiothe steam blows around the atomic bits03:12
dr_willisdo you have to defrag  it?03:12
reisioonly when I run Windows on it03:12
reisioso I can use sheep.exe03:12
cryptotheslyare you sure you actually have it reisio? Surely if you observe it you cannot be sure?03:12
* ActionParsnip defrags his abacus03:12
lixreisio: sheep in superposition?03:13
dr_willisjust finished reading a  artical on btrfs.   :)03:13
reisiocryptothesly: surossibly03:13
reisiodr_willis: was the article finished?03:13
reisiomost things to do with btrfs aren't :p03:13
dr_willisbasically mentions how brtfs seems to be getting pushed to fast into Oracle and a few other disrtos.03:13
escottdr_willis, btrfs is sadly still unusable on ubuntu because of dpkg and firefox's dependence on fsync03:14
dr_willishttp://www.h-online.com/open/features/Kernel-Comment-Btrfs-too-fast-1473538.html03:14
ESphynxhey guys03:15
roothi03:16
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ESphynxWtf does trying to install a 32bit version of the libjpeg library tells me that build-hessential is going to be removed ?????03:16
ActionParsnip!rootirc | Guest1687603:16
ubottuGuest16876: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.03:16
Guest16876erorr wifi03:17
ActionParsnipGuest16876: details please...03:17
dr_willisit pays to ask a question, using complete sentances...03:17
lixGuest16876: got root on your wifi router?03:17
Guest16876driver wifi03:18
Guest16876erorr03:18
ActionParsnipGuest16876: ok, you aren't charged by the letter here03:18
ActionParsnipGuest16876: use FULL sentances and describe the issue03:18
dr_williswe seem to play 20 questions  here way way way to much.03:18
bazhangGuest16876, is this backtrack?03:18
Guest16876ok plees wan mint03:19
nydelis there a way to change the position of an open window from terminal?03:19
bazhangGuest16876, mint's not supported here03:19
Guest16876backtrack503:19
Guest16876bt 2303:19
OrukusakiOh my God03:19
bazhangGuest16876, backtrack is not supported here either03:19
dr_willisnydel:  ive seen some tools in the past for it. Not sure what ones work these days or new ones may be out. 'devilspie' i recall being one.03:19
dr_willis!info  devilspie03:20
ubottudevilspie (source: devilspie): find windows and perform actions on them. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.22-2 (precise), package size 30 kB, installed size 112 kB03:20
ActionParsnipbazhang: sounded like the mentality and intelligence of the average backtrack user :)03:20
dr_willisnydel:  there may be newer alternatives to that.03:20
ActionParsnipdr_willis: grab gdevilspie from google code if you are using devilspie, makes life easier03:20
bazhang#backtrack-linux Guest1687603:20
ActionParsnipGuest16876: ask in #backtrack-linux03:20
ActionParsnipbazhang: good catch03:20
dlumI'm having issues with my macbook pro installing 12.04. It seems to be freezing when trying to switch to X. Is there a text only installer?03:21
escottnydel, there is also a matching plugin to compiz in ccsm03:21
ActionParsnipdlum: use the alternate installer03:21
nydeldr_willis: i'm watching stuff on an hdmi out & occasionally vlc will open on the laptop, which is closed & over there, so i'm really just trying to set something up to stop that03:21
dr_willisnydel:  what do you want the windows to do exactly? Ive used the ccsm plugins to (for example) make the file-copy dialogs always be 'on top' and 'on every workspace'03:21
dlumI just tried ..... it's not just text03:21
escott!nomodeset | dlum03:22
ubottudlum: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter03:22
lixdlum: did you use the correct installer?03:22
nydeli don't see any pattern to when vlc opens on the laptop display.03:22
ActionParsnipdlum: what GPU do you use?03:22
dlumubottu: thanks, I'll check this link03:22
ubottudlum: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:22
nydeleverything else is set to prefer the smaller display since that's where i work.03:22
ActionParsnipdlum: if its an nvidia, add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=103:23
dlumActionParsnip: it has two cards, an intel and an nvidia03:23
nydelideally i'd be running two instances of xwindows with one on the laptop & the other on the hdmi out -- is that possible? anyone know if this is possible?03:23
ActionParsnipdlum: oh jeez, thats a whole LOT of headaches. Expect issues03:24
reisionydel: obviously not the ideal way, but you could use wmctrl to fix such things for one-offs03:24
dr_willisnydel:  i think the ccsm   plugins can do  that.03:25
dr3mrohello , is there a scipt for backing up ubuntu and restore it using tar.gz ??03:25
dlumescott: thanks that helped, but now I need how to figure out to install via text only mode :)03:25
escottnydel, you might have a problem trying to do that with one video card03:25
ActionParsnip!backup03:25
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning03:25
dr_willisnydel:  i never use the 2 x display feature. but its doable03:25
reisiodr3mro: from a running system?03:25
escott!alternate | dlum03:25
ubottudlum: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal03:25
dr3mroreisio, YUP!03:25
escottdlum, its a different download03:25
dlumActionParsnip: yeah ... I've been experiencing issues already03:25
dlumescott: tried and failed03:26
reisiodr3mro: you can do it with a simple tar command, but there are sections you'll need to exclude03:26
dlumescott: the grub line to boot the kernel is only-ubiquity quite splash03:26
dlumescott: it goes black after it tries to switch to X03:26
dr3mroreisio, I know about that but wouldn't it be gr8 if a script can do it automatically and restores it if needed!!03:26
cryptotheslydr3mro, DejaDup does a good job03:27
reisiodr3mro: it'd have to be a pretty smart script to know when needed03:27
reisiodr3mro: automatically is as simple as making a cron job03:27
reisiodr3mro: although for incremental backups and other fancy things you'd want to use something like rdiff-backup03:27
dr3mroreisio, I mean manually !!03:27
reisiowhen to automatically manually restore? :p03:27
cryptotheslydr3mro, man rsync03:27
dlumescott: yes, I'm aware and it's the one I'm running on now03:28
dr3mrorsync is not a good idea !! big data size compared to tar.gz03:28
meisth0thhello03:28
reisioyou can gz the end result of rsync if you want03:28
reisiomeisth0th: hiyo03:28
dlumActionParsnip: Do you know how to do a text only install?03:28
ActionParsnipdlum: you'll need the alternate ISO03:29
meisth0thi have written a python application that helps organizing music folder, is there anybody that can make ppa package of it for me?03:29
dr3mromeisth0th, YUP!03:29
lixdr3mro: you might wanna try rsync-backup http://devpit.org/rsync-backup/03:29
lixdr3mro: or bup https://github.com/apenwarr/bup03:30
Squarismis there a hotkey for the screen shot program in ubuntu03:31
Squarismi ubuntu unituy03:31
dlumActionParsnip: I have it and i've booted with nomodeset03:31
Squarismunity03:31
lixSquarism: the PrintScreen key03:31
reisioSquarism: isn't it CTRL+ALT+... something?03:31
reisios?03:31
ActionParsnipSquarism: press printscreen key03:31
Squarismthanks03:31
ActionParsnipSquarism: wasnt that the first thing you tried?03:32
nydeldr_willis: i'm gonna try ccsm, thanks for your help03:32
meisth0thanybody?03:32
lixSquarism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6MgXoU15EU :)03:33
dwarderFATAL: Module tun not found.03:33
dwardermodprobe tun03:33
dwarderhow to fix?03:33
nydelSquarism: print for the workspace, shift-print for the window03:33
cryptotheslyActionParsnip, not always obvious on some keyboards. Mine is marked "prt sc" - not something that shouts screenshot to some.03:34
lixnydel: nice (didnt know)03:34
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ESphynxhey guys, why doesn't installing 32 bit libraries automatically create the proper 32 bit .so symlinks on Precise?03:34
nydellix: there are more. system settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts -> screenshots (in unity)03:35
nydelSquarism: what i just said03:35
lixnydel: thanks03:35
ActionParsnipESphynx: if you install a 32bit app the package system wil install the 32bit deps03:35
ESphynxActionParsnip:I do'nt install 32 bit apps, I develop 32 bits apps03:36
ActionParsnipESphynx: might want to use a chroot then03:36
ESphynxActionParsnip: I want to develop my 32bit apps on my 64 bit systems.03:37
ESphynxWhy is it so hard to get this 32/64 bit co-existance right03:37
ActionParsnip!chroot03:37
ubottuA chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot03:37
* robertzaccour tired as hell03:37
ActionParsnipESphynx: it is right...03:38
ESphynxwtf would I need a Chroot for that!!! come on!03:38
robertzaccourI moved today03:38
nydelESphynx: ActionParsnip's not wrong03:38
paulus68what is the advantage/disadvantage of creating different partitions for /boot /root /home on 1 hard drive?03:38
lixrobertzaccour: moved to ubuntu?03:38
ESphynxnydel: wrong about what?03:38
lixESphynx: about chroot03:39
ESphynxI appreciate the help you guys are giving me, pointing me in the right direction on what one is supposed to do03:39
ESphynxBut I'm totally infuriated with these Ubuntu decisions.03:39
ActionParsnippaulus68: easy backup for /home  as well as easy reinstalls. /root is pretty pointless as it's not used much at all03:39
nydelESphynx: using chroot or something like it to make different areas for coexistence of 32 & 6403:39
nydelESphynx: what ubuntu decisions?03:40
ESphynxnydel: the fact it doesn't 'just work' anymore.03:40
ESphynxas it used to before Oneiric03:40
nydelESphynx: oh come on, what fun would that be03:40
ESphynxmind you, there's not much that seems to be missing!03:41
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ESphynxit just seems to refuse to create my libjpeg.so symlink in /usr/lib/i386-gnu-linux/03:41
paulus68ActionParsnip: Home I can understand however creating a partition of 100mb on /boot seems a bit of a overkill to me but I can totaly miss the ball here03:41
ESphynxi have to do it manually03:41
nydelESphynx: you're right though, if we want ubuntu to appear as a viable alternative to the big money os's, it should 'just work'03:41
ActionParsnippaulus68: i think its a bit pointless, I make /, /home and swap here, anything else is a bit needless imho. For servers a seperate /var can be good :)03:42
ESphynxnydel: good. I'm glad someone sees it that way.03:42
nydelESphynx: f yeah03:42
ESphynxthis whole multiarch deal, there was some good thought put into this I'm sure... and it does seem to improve on stuff...03:42
ESphynxSo why not get it right all the way.03:43
nydelanyone know how to design a global hotkey that launches firefox with url.com/q=$q where $q is hilighted text?03:44
ms-daisyHi, I'm trying to make a copy of a .conf file before I mess with it on my server.  I'm using this command: sudo cp /etc/apt/apt.conf /etc/apt/apt.conf.original sudo chmod a-w /etc/apt/apt.conf.original.03:44
paulus68ActionParsnip: thx03:45
ms-daisyI get the error: target '/etc/apt/apt.conf.original' is not a directory.  What am I doing wrong?03:45
nydelms-daisy: is /etc/apt/apt.conf a directory?03:45
meisth0thplease, can anybody make package of my application and make ppa for it?03:45
nydelms-daisy: do this: cd /etc/apt/apt.conf;sudo cp apt.conf apt.conf.original03:46
pacific-blueI have a large table with a key and a description following it. If the description is the same as the above line it will have a ". Is there a way in vi to replace the " with the description from above?03:46
nydelms-daisy: i meant this: cd /etc/apt;sudo cp apt.conf apt.conf.original03:47
reisiopacific-blue: /join #vim03:48
_xan_paulus68: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/256/is-it-good-to-make-a-separate-partition-for-boot03:48
pacific-bluereisio, thought i had. my bad03:48
reisiopacific-blue: just sayin' :D03:48
wayneosuo ery body03:49
ms-daisythanks nydel.  That still didn't work.  Problem is I've never tried to save a conf file on a server.  Can anyone point me to a tutorial, documentation, something that will walk a total noob through it?  Google is landing me on helpful stuff like "save the conf file before you edit it."03:49
nydelms-daisy: same error?03:50
nydelms-daisy: try this: cp /etc/apt/apt.conf ~/apt.conf.original03:51
nydelms-daisy: that should put a copy of the original in your home directory03:51
ms-daisyo god I'm an idiot. It's /etc/apt/apt.conf.d03:51
KRomohows is Fedora?03:51
nydelms-daisy: that's why we love computers -- when they mess up, it's our fault :)03:51
KRomoi see people making a big deal about ver 1703:52
reisioKRomo: it's probably the best distro for being an unpaid RHEL beta tester there is03:53
ms-daisyNop, I still don't have it.  Seriously.  Can anyone point me to a detailed document on saving .conf files?03:53
reisioms-daisy: saving them?03:53
ms-daisyyup03:53
ms-daisycopying them sorry03:54
U5Z3Whats with the FloodBot1,2, and 3's?03:54
reisioms-daisy: from where to where? Why?03:54
nydelms-daisy: there's no real topic on saving conf files -- you need to know about "linux file permissions" & the "cp" command.03:54
reisioU5Z3: 3 comes after 2 comes after 103:54
nydelms-daisy: 9 times of 10, a .conf is textual03:54
ms-daisyreiso I'm going to screw with a .conf file. I want to save the original before that.03:54
zombifieror cp -r if you want to copy directories03:55
reisioms-daisy: ah03:55
lixms-daisy: "cp foo bar" or "cat foo > bar"03:55
paulus68_xan_: thx03:55
reisioms-daisy: cp /path/to/conf /home/youruser/conf.backupFOO#03:55
KRomowhat app can i use to use my scanner?03:55
nydelzombifier: is that right, does cp take -r? i know rm does but i didn't think cp did.03:55
zombifierI believe vim has an option of saving the original when editing03:55
reisioKRomo: what make?03:55
lixKRomo: gimp!03:55
KRomohp officejet 6500a03:55
zombifiernydel: Yes, cp takes the --recursive option03:55
Blue1zombifier: indeed03:55
reisioKRomo: hplip/hplip-gui03:55
nydelzombifier: good to know thx03:55
ms-daisyzombifier vim FTW!03:56
bazhangKRomo, simplescan03:56
KRomoi installed hplip but i didnt see a scan option03:56
reisioKRomo: you probably want hplip-gui03:56
reisioKRomo: otherwise it's commands only, like 'hp-scan'03:56
reisio(which I actually prefer)03:56
ActionParsnipKRomo: xsane03:56
reisioKRomo: the buttons on the scanner may also work, but not necessarily03:56
KRomoits connected over network03:56
KRomois that ok?03:56
reisioKRomo: potentially :)03:57
Blue1yeah network prointer usally work03:57
ActionParsnipKRomo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo#LAN-based_scanners03:57
KRomoxsane installing now...03:57
bazhang!packaging > meisth0th03:57
ubottumeisth0th, please see my private message03:57
KRomooh wow xsane works flawless03:58
KRomoyessssssssssssss03:58
U5Z3whats xsane?03:58
KRomothanks action!03:58
nydelms-daisy: do this: "sudo vi /etc/apt/apt.conf.d" then type ":w /etc/apt/apt.conf.d" then type ":q"03:58
ActionParsnip!info xsane03:58
meisth0thbazhang, i know about packaging, but it would be a lot easier for me if there is already one experienced user that wants to help me03:58
ubottuxsane (source: xsane): featureful graphical frontend for SANE (Scanner Access Now Easy). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.998-3ubuntu2 (precise), package size 264 kB, installed size 812 kB03:58
nydelms-daisy: do this: "sudo vi /etc/apt/apt.conf.d" then type ":w /etc/apt/apt.conf.d.original" then type ":q"03:58
zykotick9nydel: apt.conf.d is a directory usually03:59
bazhangmeisth0th, better to learn it, asking here for someone to compile your app for a ppa is not the way to go03:59
zombifiernano has the -b option. Dunno if vim has it03:59
zombifier-B03:59
nydelzykotick9: i asked that, i thought it wasn't this time03:59
ms-daisyThanks nydel.  I'm still disappointed that I can't copy a simple file :S03:59
nydelms-daisy: it might not be a file03:59
zombifiercp -r is needed in order to copy a folder04:00
tr3ntoni have pinned an application to the unity launcher (text editor). But if I right click some text files, Open With Scite; it creates a new icon in the launcher (same icon, so it appears there twice).04:00
nydelms-daisy: try "sudo cp -r /etc/apt/apt.d.conf /etc/apt/apt.d.conf.original04:00
tr3ntonIs that expected behavior04:00
KRomohow do i minimize all windows? like in windows windoskey+d?04:00
reisiodunno if recommending vi is a good idea for someone who didn't know how to cp a few seconds ago04:00
nydel"04:00
reisioKRomo: try CTRL+ALT+d04:00
_xan_apt.conf.d is a directory04:00
nydelms-daisy: the "-r" means recursive, you need this to copy a directory.04:00
ms-daisyreisio: good point.  This server is for breaking.04:00
reisioeverything is, in the end :p04:00
KRomoctrl+alt+d does nothing04:00
reisiobut you might find nano or gedit a better editor04:00
reisioKRomo: which version of Ubuntu?04:01
paulus68is there a utility under ubuntu simular like norton disk doktor?04:01
U5Z3ya i like gedit04:01
KRomo12.0404:01
ms-daisygedit on a server with no gui reisio ?04:01
nydeli would recommend nano for command line04:01
KRomoi learned ctrl+alt+t is terminal today, i love that04:01
nydelwhat ms-daisy said04:01
rcrnstnHi guys, Im having problems with C++ "mem_fun" and "bind1st", can you help? http://codepad.org/g3AvnAlL (19 lines)04:01
reisioKRomo: should be Meta+D, just like Windows04:01
U5Z3Oops right04:01
ActionParsnipKRomo: you can also install guake and use F12 (by default) to show and hide the terminal :)04:02
zombifierYup, nano -B shoud save the original file as a backup04:02
_xan_KRomo: You will love guake even more then04:02
robotdevilcan I use windows pen drive creator if my ubuntu disc creator is broken04:02
reisiocan customize all the shortcuts :p04:02
robotdevilin wine04:02
lixpaulus86: what exactly would you like to do?04:02
KRomowindows+d does nothing04:02
ActionParsnipreisio: meta+D will run the app in Unity assigned to the letter D in the launcher :)04:02
zombifierrobotdevil: I see no difference04:02
zombifierIn 12.04 it's Ctrl + Super + D now04:02
robotdevilzombifier: I meant in wine04:02
nydel!cp04:02
reisioActionParsnip: not what what I'm reading says04:02
reisioActionParsnip: what's desktop toggle, then?04:03
KRomoOH WOW04:03
KRomoctrl super d works04:03
KRomoyay04:03
zombifierI have no idea why you should run system tools in wine. Try unetbootin04:03
reisiowhat an awful shortcut04:03
dwarderi'm on Ubuntu 11.04, how do i enable tun if, /sbin/modprobe tun gives WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.04:03
dwarderFATAL: Module tun not found.04:03
lm_wow guy you are very serviceable :) i'm male04:03
nydelKRomo: global hotkey list is found in system-settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts04:03
nydelKRomo: you might like a lot of them04:03
dwarder;(04:04
paulus68lix: I have a harddrive that has some bad sectors on them which makes it still possible to read and format however impossible to reinstall ubuntu on this drive it keeps hanging therefore I want to see if it's possible to "replace" the bad sectors and try to use the hd again04:04
zombifierTry holding the Super key04:04
reisiolm_: I'm male, too, small world04:04
ActionParsnipKRomo: hold down windows key for a long time and you'll see all the asigned shortcuts04:04
KRomoright now i am running ubuntu 12.04 on a small 90gb sata3 6gbps ssd. i have a sata3 2tb drive i want to install as a storage drive. should i format it ntfs or ext4 like trhe ssd?04:04
KRomooh wow lol04:04
zombifierext404:04
_xan_!fsck04:04
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot04:04
lm_reisio, i know04:04
lixpaulus86: !info fsck04:04
reisiodoes Ubuntu's 'shutdown' not have -F ?04:05
_xan_!fsck paulus8604:05
robotdevilzombifier: didnt know about it thanks04:05
ms-daisynydel: Okie dokie. I was trying to copy a directory. Epic fail. But now I've got the CORRECT conf files copied.  Thanks to all!04:05
KRomoreisio: what distro you on?04:05
nydelms-daisy: very welcome04:05
reisioKRomo: one whose shutdown has -F :D04:05
KRomolol04:05
ActionParsnipreisio: windows shutdown has -f ;)04:06
zombifierYeah its kinda weird that mv does not have -r, while cp and rm has04:06
reisioActionParsnip: what about Mac OS? :p04:06
zombifiersudo shutdown now04:06
ActionParsnipreisio: ubuntu has -r -s -H -P -c and -k04:06
zombifierin Ubuntu04:06
paulus68_xan_: but will it also repair the filesystem if needed?04:06
ActionParsnipreisio: no idea, not used mac too extensively04:06
* lix wonders if option "-f" stands for "forever"04:06
reisioActionParsnip: so at all :D heh04:07
zombifierjust read shutdown's man page04:07
_xan_paulus68: yes04:07
ActionParsnipreisio: a little, to play music at a party04:07
_xan_paulus68: man fsck04:07
ActionParsnipreisio: felt weird, didn't like it04:07
paulus68_xan_: thx04:07
KRomowas unity designed for tablets? it seems like it would work well on tablets and desktops alike...the sidebar seems touch freindly04:07
lm_you know what guys, i received message 'disk drive /dev/mapper/cryptswap/ etc' but i reinstalled ubuntu without encrypting my home folder at the start and solved!04:08
lixpaulus86 http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/fsck.8.html04:08
nydela lot of new ubuntu users seem not to know basic li/unix commands -- i think we should alias rm='rm -i' in the next release04:08
zombifiernydel: Great idea04:08
jenhow in the HECK do i use JoinMe on Linux!?!?!?!04:09
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reisioKRomo: it was inspired by a version originally intended for netbooks, IIRC04:09
dr_willisand joinme is?04:09
lm_you know what guys, i received message 'disk drive /dev/mapper/cryptswap/ etc' but i reinstalled ubuntu without encrypting my home folder at the start and solved!04:09
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reisioGuest86938: yes, what's joinme?04:09
lixnydel: no actually you should alias rm='wipe -fr'04:09
reisioActionParsnip: yeah :p04:09
Ieatpienstuffim wanting to share my screen with other people but stupid linux keeps foiling everything I do!04:09
reisioActionParsnip: I did use one for writing a paper in college once, though, group project04:09
reisioActionParsnip: word processors are all the same, though04:10
ActionParsnipreisio: considering what they was using it for he could've bough a windows pc and saved a few hundred, but they suckered him in04:10
Ieatpienstuffand if anyone can kindly help me fix my problem I would really appreciate it04:10
bazhangIeatpienstuff, you never asked a real question04:11
ActionParsnipIeatpienstuff: wassup?04:11
reisioActionParsnip: it's important for some people to get rid of their money :p04:11
dr_willisit helps to state the problem.04:11
Ieatpienstuffhow can I use JoinMe on linux?04:11
lixIeatpienstuff: try http://teamviewer.com04:11
reisioIeatpienstuff: what is it?04:11
Ieatpienstuffno no teamviewer04:11
dr_willisI dont think anyone in here has ever heard of JoinMe04:11
IeatpienstuffI just want to share how i draw by using it04:11
lixIeatpienstuff: what is "JoinMe" anyways?04:11
reisio^ :p04:11
Ieatpienstuffto share your screen with people04:12
dr_willisand the JoinMe web site mentions a Linux client?04:12
ActionParsnipIeatpienstuff: look into teamviewer or vnc if it is only over LAN04:12
Ieatpienstuffgrr04:13
lixIeatpienstuff: http://scriptographer.org04:13
Ieatpienstuffbut everyone uses macs and windows04:13
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lix!info JoinMe04:13
ubottuPackage JoinMe does not exist in precise04:13
ActionParsnipIeatpienstuff: vnc is a protocol used in mac and windows04:14
Ieatpienstuffbut04:14
Ieatpienstuffall I want to do is share my screen with a EVERY POSSIBLE TYPE of computer known to man website04:14
lixIeatpienstuff: use scriptographer to draw with your friends and gobby to collectively write texts.04:14
lixIeatpienstuff: !info gobby04:15
reisiothat's what we call Flash04:15
ActionParsnipIeatpienstuff: vnc can be connected to from ANY OS that has a VNC client for it...04:15
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dr_willisIeatpienstuff:  vnc  has clients and teamviewer for most every os out  there.. while Join.me seems limited to android devices and windows pcs...04:15
_xan_Ieatpienstuff: you could always try to download the windows version and run it under wine04:15
reisioIeatpienstuff: http://alternativeto.net/software/logmein-express/?platform=linux04:15
dr_willisthe join.me web site isent even loading properly on my android device.. makes me worry aoyt  using their android client04:15
ray1clawand I'm IN!!04:16
ray1clawfinally04:16
Ieatpienstuffholy heck04:16
Ieatpienstuffi can do it!!!04:17
lix:)04:17
Ieatpienstuffthanks you guise! Nerd out!04:17
ray1clawwhoops04:17
ray1clawwrong channel04:17
reisioguiseses04:17
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dr_willisJust reminded me of that blues-stack android 'vm'  thing for windows. anyone noticed a similer open sourced project for linux? be nice to run some android  apps in a little window on my desktop04:19
_xan_dr_willis: could run the development environment... not sure what the performance would be like04:20
dr_willis_xan_:  or theres that x86 port  of Android 4.0 i could do in Vbox.. but thats not quite the same as how that BLuestacks works04:20
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dr_willisi figure eventually it will happen.  Be sort of a neat 'feature' for ubuntu to have an easy way to do it,.04:22
EtgarDizzhi all!04:22
CoJaBohi some!04:22
EtgarDizzI'd like to consult: I have ubuntu 11.04 installed, with some applications/modifications. from your experience, how much incompatibility should I expect if I try to upgrade to 12.04? meaning - should I even do it?04:22
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reisioEtgarDizz: you probably won't have any with apps not to do with the GUI/Unity/GNOME04:23
zykotick9EtgarDizz: you can't skip releases so you'd have to upgrade twice 11.04 -> 11.10 then 11.10 -> 12.0404:24
ramsmithEtgarDizz: i tend to create two / partitions one that is active and one that i use for the next release. I have a home partitions that i recycle04:24
reisiozykotick9: not even LTS?04:24
dr_willisif you don't  want or need the new features. stay with what ya have. ;)04:24
zykotick9reisio: LTS is an exception (that proves the rule ;)04:25
CoJaBoThis machine's still on Jaunty :/04:25
reisioramsmith: and you find that's necessary?04:25
reisiozykotick9: right04:25
ramsmithreisio: it has proven to be the best way for me.04:25
EtgarDizzzykotick9, that's what I meant... upgrading twice. reisio, good point. I don't think I have any mods to the gui, I do however have modified the x11 config file, and have added some libs to support java 32-bit for eg. does that sound like something that could break? meaning, the libs I installed are probably release-specific?04:26
ramsmithreisio: not necessary but i have done it that way at least 4 times after having nigling issues between upgrades04:26
_xan_dr_willis: have you tried to run bluestacks in wine just for kicks?04:26
ccooffeeI'm planning on installing Ubuntu. Please name a few things I should start with to make the computer more secure.04:26
zykotick9EtgarDizz: personally (and it's only a personal OPINION), i think upgrade are a bad idea YMMV04:26
reisioramsmith: issues like?04:27
EtgarDizzzykotick9, YMMV?...04:27
reisioEtgarDizz: can't speak to your mysterious Java™ configs, but the rest should be fine04:27
verwilstyour mileage may vary04:27
zykotick9EtgarDizz: sorry, Your Milage May Vary (meaning you might have a different experinece)04:27
reisioEtgarDizz: and even if it isn't, it shouldn't take you more than a few hours here to sort any issues out04:27
_xan_ccooffee: laptop lock, security cam connected to cctv, 300lbs security guard?04:27
dr_willis_xan_:  thats almost twisted. ;)04:28
reisiono offense, but if you can't upgrade it, you need to find another distro04:28
ramsmithreiso: just funny little stuff. its been over two years since i've done it differently.04:28
reisioramsmith: mmm04:28
ccooffee_xan_: Almost funny... :/04:28
ramsmithreisio: from memory it was mostly gnome related.04:28
EtgarDizzzykotick9, reisio, that's good advice. can you recommend a back-up application, to create an image of what I have now, in case I don't like the new release and want to revert?04:29
reisio_xan_: yeah, if you'd not used avoirdupois it'd have been funny04:29
zykotick9EtgarDizz: clonezilla livecd, or dd for image backups are two options04:29
reisioEtgarDizz: rsync from a livecd is pretty simple04:29
_xan_reisio: haha04:30
reisiorsync -av /where/root/is/mounted/ /some/other/place/04:30
reisio_xan_: :D04:30
reisiodm, that would've made it funny04:30
reisioor dg in this case04:30
reisiodecigrammes are innately funny04:30
_xan_reisio: I prefer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_(unit)04:31
reisioyou would :p04:31
LilCan anyone show me how to connect wvdial using usb modem without modprobing first, please.. :)04:32
_xan_ccooffee: what are you trying to achieve from a security standpoint?  encryption? anonymity? firewalled environment?04:33
dr_williswhy not just make the module autoload?04:33
ccooffee_xan_: Basic security stuff. :>04:33
dr_willisactually the plugging in of the device should load the module04:33
reisioccooffee: should be pretty secure by default04:34
Cerrdorsh-4.1$ sudo chmod 777 eggdrop04:34
Cerrdorsh-4.1$ ./eggdrop -m eggdrop.conf04:34
Cerrdorsh: ./eggdrop: Permission denied04:34
Lildr_willis:  i can't do that.. T_T04:34
Cerrdorhow do I fix that?04:34
_xan_ccooffee: exactly what reisio said04:34
ccooffeereisio: SHOULD be? Oh oh!04:34
reisioccooffee: heh04:34
dr_willislil cant do what....04:34
reisioccooffee: for example an ssh server probably isn't even installed04:34
reisioccooffee: so people can't even try to brute force or guess your pass and break in remotely04:34
ccooffee_xan_: reisio: I read the firewall isn't turned on by default? :/04:35
dr_willisa normal desktop ubuntu install has no default services listening . i belive04:35
reisioccooffee: if you want some "security" (peace of mind), look into something like AIDE or tripwire, so you know if and when your system has been compromised, and exactly how to undo it04:35
dr_willisccooffee:  its on. but theres no default rules blocking anything.04:35
Lildr_willis how to loading..04:35
_xan_ccooffee: do you have a laptop that you are moving around? or just a desktop?04:35
dr_willis!module04:35
dr_willis!modules04:35
ubottuTo compile modules and drivers that are not bundled with the standard kernel,  for more info /msg ubottu kernel  , install the relevant package, usually called "<modulename>-source", and run « sudo module-assistant » (you will have to do this again after kernel updates). To prevent specific modules from loading, see /msg ubottu blacklist04:35
CerrdorI chmod my script 777 over and over and I still get permission denied, why is it not sticking lol04:36
dr_willis!autoload04:36
dr_willisCerrdor:  check output of ls -l, what fs is the file on?04:36
zykotick9Cerrdor: is the script on a FAT/NTFS partition by chance?04:36
ccooffee_xan_: It's a laptop used as a desktop. :p04:36
ccooffeereisio: That sounds complicated.04:37
reisioccooffee: it isn't _really_04:37
reisioccooffee: but you have plenty of time to figure out how to use it, because it's pretty unlikely you'll need it at all :p04:37
ccooffeedr_willis: Would it be easy to block all incoming connections?04:37
_xan_ccooffee: if you have a router by default you don't need to worry about a firewall... I would really only be concerned about a firewall if you are accessing public wifi or something similar.04:37
ForSparePartsHey guys? I had an upgrade fail and I'm running dpkg --configure -a from chroot -- it's dying on me, says "too many errors." Is there anything I can do about that?04:37
Lilthanks... :D04:38
dr_willisccooffee:  if no services are listening.. then theres no need to block them.04:38
EtgarDizzreision, sorry I didn't understand the rsync command you wrote04:38
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EtgarDizzwhy would it work, when I try to go back from /some/other/place into /there/root/is? the new release would be more recent and nothing would happen, no?04:38
dr_willisccooffee:  and my router handles most of it all. :)04:39
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dr_willisbbl04:39
ccooffeereisio: Just yesterday I used the Installation DVD that came with my laptop to be SURE nothing was tampered with. Guess what? utorrent came preinstalled on the fucking DVD(?!) and once I installed VLC the icon was upside down... :/04:39
reisioEtgarDizz: from a live OS, if you have your root (/) mounted to say /mnt/oldubuntu, and a drive with sufficient space mounted to /mnt/oldbackup, you'd run: rsync -av /mnt/oldubuntu/ /mnt/oldbackup/04:39
ForSparePartsIt seems like the errors are all "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured"04:39
reisioEtgarDizz: hrmm?04:40
reisioccooffee: talking about an Ubuntu DVD?04:40
ccooffeereisio: No, Mac OS X.04:40
reisiooh04:40
reisioMac OS isn't much for security04:41
reisiothere's a massive dormant botnet involving Apple computers ATM04:41
reisionot that it can't be, it just isn't by default04:41
ccooffeeWell, what I told you about happened within 30 minutes after installing the damn thing.04:41
crazyharryhow can I download entire directory using wget command ?04:41
reisioccooffee: installing what, Mac OS?04:41
ccooffeereisio: Yes.04:42
reisioccooffee: mmm, that's a different OS though :p04:42
ccooffeereisio: And why the **** was utorrent already on the DVD?04:42
bazhangccooffee, thats offtopic here. try a mac channel04:42
_xan_ccooffee: http://www.puschitz.com/SecuringLinux.shtml04:42
ccooffeebazhang: Why? I'm not trying to get any help for OS X. We're just talking about it.04:42
bazhangccooffee, and no cursing here04:43
bazhangccooffee, it's NOT the chat channel04:43
EtgarDizzreisio, I thought you meant I can do this from my normal OS and not only from a live CD. also, how would I replace the new relase with the backup if needed? what command in rsync?04:43
ccooffeebazhang: Wow. Calm down?04:43
reisioccooffee: I'd imagine because it wasn't an official DVD image, or alternatively because they have some commercial partnership with them04:43
reisioEtgarDizz: you can, but it's more complicated as there are parts of the OS you wouldn't want to attempt to copy04:43
reisioEtgarDizz: like /proc/04:43
reisioEtgarDizz: you can just rm the new files and rsync -av back the old ones04:44
EtgarDizzreisio, what's the diff? if / is mounted to somewhere, wouldn't /proc/ be there with it (eg /mnt/old/proc/)?04:44
reisioEtgarDizz: proc itself would be, but not the dynamic files inside it04:44
reisioit'd just be an empty dir waiting to be filled by a running system04:45
CoJaBoIn general, you don't want to try to back up a running system's root lol..04:45
crazyharryhow can I download entire directory (all subfolder and files within it )using wget command ?04:45
EtgarDizzreisio, I think I need to try this for myself to get a better undestanding... one problem: the live CD option isn't available cos I'm planning on an upgrade not a fresh install04:45
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reisiocrazyharry: ask #linux04:46
reisioEtgarDizz: it's only not an option if you don't have a live OS image and/or don't have a CD/DVD/USB stick04:46
zykotick9crazyharry: -r for recursive04:47
reisioyou don't need it for the upgrade, it's just convenient for backing up a system (because the system won't be _running_)04:47
crazyharryzykotick9, I did -r , only copies index.html file04:47
EtgarDizzreision, I guess I'm missing something. can you explain the steps you'd take in this method?04:47
zykotick9crazyharry: perhaps it's a dynamic site?04:48
EtgarDizzreisio, also the steps needed to restore the backup04:48
crazyharryzykotick9, I used  wget -r -nH --cut-dirs=2 --no-parent --reject="index.html*" --user=xxx --password='yyy'  https://valicertext.roche.com/OID_XXYYX/*04:48
reisioEtgarDizz: obtain live OS image and burn/image to CD or DVD or USB stick, reboot system to this live OS, mount the local root filesystem as well as someplace to put a copy of it (you can copy it to /home/foo/ if you want, but exclusions would come into play), rsync -av /path/to/original/ /path/to/newcopy/04:49
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EtgarDizzreisio, understood. now how would you restore if needed? from live CD again, or something else?04:52
Zackingtoni get an error when booting04:54
Zackingtonwrite hd0 disk error04:54
CoJaBoZackington: ..is your drive dieing? o_O04:55
Zackingtonno?04:55
Zackingtonlol04:55
Zackingtonits new04:55
Zackington1.5tb04:55
reflexrgwhat problems can I encounter if I encrypt my home folder does it have to be a separate parition and if upgrade by fresh install and I have an encrypted home folder how does that work and is that still possible???04:56
angelica#ubuntu04:57
angelicalorena04:57
wifioregonHi, I've been introducing a lot of people in my chat to Ubuntu, but they complain that they want to be able to play good games.  I remember someone a while back talking about some new engine thats going to be way cool. Are there any good commercial games for ubuntu?04:58
reisioyup04:58
reisioand a number of win32 games will run fine via Wine04:59
lilihi. i have som txt file in /var/log/ and some .gz file in it. i want to remve all files in /var/log/ Except .gz files?04:59
reisioplayonlinux can help with that, I s'pose04:59
reflexrgwifioregon there is a lot of free software/open source games cross platform games04:59
wifioregonreisio, but all the games I've tried so far are buggy and slow with wine...and I've tried a lot04:59
reflexrgalso there is emulators to play games too04:59
wifioregonthanks, but what about modern games with killer graphics?05:00
reflexrgI think dosbox is cross platform05:00
reflexrgthere is modern games wifioregon05:00
wifioregonI've already been installing all the main free and open source games05:00
wifioregonrelexrg, could you recommend a couple?05:00
reisiolili: something like: find /var/log/ -not -iname '*.gz' -delete05:00
reisiolili: might want to run it without -delete first and check for sanity :p05:01
reflexrghow about trying out the gaming editions of distros05:01
xclusive585wifioregon: yeasterday someone mentioned "nethack" for playing windows games on Linux? never heard of it but maybe it's worth a google?05:01
reisiowifioregon: a fair number require little tweaks, that's what playonlinux is about05:01
reflexrgfedora gamers spin wifioregon05:01
reisioheh05:01
reisionethack is a game05:01
xclusive585lol05:01
wifioregonbut no commercial games?05:01
reisiowifioregon: I already said there were05:01
zombifierIt depends05:01
reflexrgjust because it isn't commercial doesn't mean the game sucks05:02
wifioregonreisio:  sorry, just having trouble finding anything good with google05:02
reisiohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_gaming05:02
lilireisio: no i want all files excepts gz05:02
reisiothere are also whole sites dedicated to gaming on Linux05:02
reisioall the games from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humble_Indie_Bundle IIRC are cross platform05:02
reflexrgthere is other ways to make money with a product than selling to end users05:03
reisiolili: that's what the command I gave you finds05:03
xclusive585ok, need a good "hello world" program that is a) available as source, b) has enough options where I can really learn about flags and different "ways" to compile. I'm a noob to compiling and plan on really learning, I've got a virtual machine all ready to go so I can make a mess and not worry about it :-). Input?05:03
reisiolili: might want to add -type f if you don't want empty dirs, too05:03
reisioxclusive585: I'm not aware of any such source, get yourself an intro book05:03
reisioxclusive585: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_and_Interpretation_of_Computer_Programs perhaps05:04
lilireisio: ? i dont see. please example05:04
reisioor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_C_Programming_Language05:04
reisiolili: something like: find /var/log/ -type f -not -iname '*.gz' -delete05:04
xclusive585I just want a good program that I can play with to compile. Not a how-to05:04
wifioregonxclusive585:  please try the room ##programming05:04
reisiolili: might want to run it without -delete first and check for sanity :p05:04
reisioxclusive585: your package manager is full of programs05:05
wifioregonxclusive585:  They are really friendly with newbs in the programming channel05:05
MrKeunerhello, which media pc is good with ubuntu? Any personal suggestions are welcome.05:05
wifioregonMrKeuner:  pretty much all modern PC's run great with ubuntu05:05
wifioregonMrKeuner:  I've had really good experiences with Lenovo and linux05:05
reflexrgI forget if I encrypted my home folder is there a command to tell me if I did or not?05:05
xclusive585LOL, yea package manager won't give me experience compiling, anys I'll try that programming room05:05
reisioMrKeuner: talking about hardware or software?05:06
MrKeunerreisio, hardware05:06
reisioMrKeuner: what wifioregon said05:06
reisioreflexrg: 'mount' might make it obvious (or might not)05:06
MrKeunerwifioregon, I have a lenovo laptop x200 which has a fingerprint reader that is not supported by Linux05:07
reflexrgMrKeuner just get a pc that has open source friendly hardware ATI graphics are open source friendly05:07
lilireisio: ok. thank you05:07
reisioMrKeuner: just as well, they aren't useful05:07
reisioalthough more than likely it is supported :p05:07
wifioregonMrKeuner:  well yea things like that are probably using proprietory software..05:07
wifioregonIts so easy to get past finger print readers anyways05:08
wifioregonha with ubuntu05:08
wifioregonlive disk05:08
reflexrgMrKeuner http://www.h-node.org/05:09
MrKeunermy point is not the fingerprint reader. I was assuming there may be parts of lenovo that won't work with my operating system05:09
reisioif someone has physical access to your computer, you're going to have to do a lot better than a finger print reader05:09
reisioMrKeuner: Lenovo in particular is pretty good about it05:09
reisiothey also prefer Intel hardware, which is also particularly good about it05:09
MrKeunerreflexrg, that sounds good, I'll check it05:09
lixMrKreuner: check here http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/05:09
reisioand again, I bet your fingerprint reader actually _is_ supported05:10
MrKeunerlix, that website is far from complete and lacks recent models05:10
MrKeunerreisio, I am pretty sure it is not05:10
reisioMrKeuner: you could try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ or http://linux-laptop.net/ (in the case of laptops)05:10
reflexrgMrKeuner https://www.gnu.org/links/companies.html05:10
reisioMrKeuner: but it's pretty simple to get a hardware list from a site/retailer and just check compatibility on individual bits05:11
MrKeunerreisio, Bus 004 Device 002: ID 08ff:2810 AuthenTec, Inc. AES281005:11
reisiothe most important bits being network and graphics devices05:11
wifioregonMrKeuner:  I'm looking for a good link that was really helpful for me. One sec05:11
MrKeunerreisio, network as in wired as well?05:11
reisioMrKeuner: yes, but wireless is more likely to be problematic05:12
reflexrgMrKeuner just buy a pc from sites that sell computers preinstalled with linux and if you have specific needs ask them what computers they sell that offer the best 3d acceleration and also ask if it requires non free firmware05:12
reisioMrKeuner: the internet tells me that device _is_ supported05:12
reisiolaunchpad.net, even05:12
reisioor: buy from sites with a good return policy05:13
wifioregonMrKeuner:  Ugh nevermind cant find it. Anyone know of a good site that reviews all the different PC's on how well they perform with linux?05:13
reisiowifioregon: nope, sounds like a waste of time05:13
wifioregonThere was an excellent one i saw a few months gack05:13
reisiono OS supports more hardware than Linux05:13
ForSparePartsHey, does anyone know how to fix the dpkg "dependency problem -- leaving unconfigured" error?05:13
wifioregonreisio:  I agree, but its a commond question people ask, and they really like to see what others have to say about the model they plan on purchasing05:14
reisioyeah but people also frequently ask why don't you vote republican :p05:14
SnowieHi all. must be missing something here. read the man, cant find any way to use ffmpeg to pull the metadata from a video file. and i see now that it is now replaced by avconv, but still no option. any suggestions05:15
amh345apache -v05:15
amh345is there a way to upgrade apache 2.2 to 2.4 using apt-get?05:15
ForSparePartsAlternately, is there any way to do a reinstall and keep my data intact without copying it all to another drive?05:15
MrKeunerreisio, your point is never mind if linux supports a new pc you intend to buy, because chances are very high that Linux supports your new prospective hardware?05:16
reflexrgcheck this site out to find webcams and other external devices that work well with linux http://www.h-node.org/  and buy from these providers for computers that work well with linux and just ask them what pc works best if you have specific needs such as 3d acceleration...etc... https://www.gnu.org/links/companies.html wifioregon05:16
reisioSnowie: any particular part of the metadata?05:16
xclusive585##programming was as helpful as here :-P. I'm just going to pick at random.05:17
reisioMrKeuner: no, although that wouldn't be a terrible point, my point was that a site such as the one referred to would not be particularly useful05:17
Snowieall of it really. i have a sh@#$ load of video that needs sorting. just want to see what info might be there. i know it's likely to be scarce. more need title and ep info.05:17
Snowiereisio, probably not gunna happen i know05:18
reflexrgalso the most popular hardware that is a few years old tends to be the most well supported hardware MrKeuner05:18
reflexrgI think dell sells pcs with ubuntu on them05:18
reflexrgor did they stop doing that?05:18
shawncm217Ubuntu 12.04 has stopped printing on me. I've deleted and re-added the printer. Deleted all jobs from queue. Reviewed logs. Checked for updates. No success. Need suggestions.05:18
Snowiei think ubuntu has a list of recommended hardware. sec05:19
reisioSnowie: I'd ask #ffmpeg about it05:19
reisioSnowie: don't mention that you're using libav if you are :p05:19
Zackingtoni would love to know if the made ubuntu based pcs05:19
reisioZackington: they sell them, yes05:19
Snowiereisio, lol, bad blood hey. thanks mate05:20
reisiowell it's not really your fault your distro has chosen to switch to some grumpy kid's fork05:20
reflexrgMrKeuner the only thing that I have found that linux sometimes has problems with is graphics card ports s-video...etc. webcams, 3d acceleration05:20
SnowieHere you go. Buy one of these if you want, well, 90% garauntee of good performance and no issues https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecommendedHardware05:20
reflexrgnot sure about internal webcams05:21
SnowieZackington, there are alot of companies out there that build them05:21
reisioreflexrg: Windows has the same problems, it's just usually preinstalled by a professional05:21
reflexrgwhat problems reisio05:21
SnowieZackington, giyf http://linuxpreloaded.com/05:21
reisioapparently you can still get Ubuntu preinstalled on Dell computers if you call them and ask05:21
reisioreflexrg: those you just mentioned Linux sometimes has05:22
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Snowiereisio, i would say, someone ruined windows to make sure there webcam worked, but yes, i agree.05:23
reisioSnowie: right, and doing the same thing with Linux accomplishes the same thing: the webcam works05:24
Snowiereisio, ;)05:24
reisiothat is to say: comparing Windows preinstalled by a professional with Linux installed by an amateur is not particularly useful05:24
reisioit's not Linux's fault if you don't know how to install drivers :D05:24
Snowiereisio, i know ill probably get flames, but win7 is pretty polished OEM, but manufacturers always seem to munt it somehow05:25
reisioalthough most linux distros go to great lengths to make it automated for you, very much unlike Windows05:25
dr_willisits the hw makers fault for not hhaving a  gpl driver avail? :)05:25
reisioSnowie: it's not as bad as Vista05:25
Snowiereisio, FACT!05:25
reisiothat's all I'm sayin' :p05:25
Snowiereisio, lol05:26
reisiodr_willis: licensing doesn't really factor into it05:26
reisiothere are a massive amount of non-GPL drivers for Linux05:26
paulus68is there a way to get the taskbar in 12.04 transparent so that it blends into your current wallpaper?05:26
dr_willisbut are they included by default.05:26
reisiopaulus68: undoubtedly05:26
reisiodr_willis: that's a distro issue05:26
reisioUbuntu inherits some of Debian's DFSG05:26
Snowiepaulus68, that's an interesting one. Used to be part of compiz i believe. hmmm05:27
reisiowhich are good for Linux in general, just potentially problematic for end users05:27
dr_willispaulus68:  you mean the left side panel?05:27
paulus68dr_willis: yes05:27
dr_willisit is semi-transparent now i thought05:27
dr_willisor at least the color changes. :)05:27
Snowiepaulus68, not really supported here, but try this http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/myunity-comprehensive-unity-tweak-for-ubuntu-11-04-and-11-10/05:28
dr_willisi think i saw some transparancy settings in myunity or theunity plugin in ccsm05:28
paulus68dr_willis: I know there is a way to create transparent panel like in the old days however I didn't find a way to achieve this in 120405:28
dr_willisMyUnity is in the 12.04 repos.05:28
dr_willisi always found the transparancy to make things less readable05:29
undecimpaulus68: Pretty sure both Ubuntu tweak and CCSM let you set the transparency of the panel05:30
dr_willisthe top panel transparency can cause issues with seeing the menu items,.05:30
xclusive585I'll rephrase this question. What's a good source package to learn about GCC compiler with?05:30
undecimdr_willis: As long as you have a dark bg, it should be fine, right?05:31
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dr_willisundecim:  actually it showed two layers of text - the gnome desktop menu and  the app menu text.. so i think a dark bgmay not help withj that05:31
dr_willisundecim:  i recall  seeing the issue with some themes. gnome-shjell does it differntly  so the transoarency dosent look as bad there05:32
Snowiewhat i love in unity in 12.04 is hitting alt to see EVERY menu item in a search box. skip to next track in spotify with a couple of keystrokes without touching the mouse or toggling windows. HELLZ YEAH05:32
dr_willisthe 'HUD" is handy05:32
undecimdr_willis: That doesn't happen to me05:33
undecimdr_willis: In fact... this transparency looks pretty nice.05:33
dr_willisbut its like unity is going 2 routes.. one way is 'focusing on keyboard ussage'  but then they say its going to be for tablets and phones.. with no keyboard05:33
dr_willisundecim:  i had totally unreadable text over text in the top panel with some themes  as i said.05:33
dr_willisnot all themse have the transparent top panel  i belive05:34
undecimdr_willis: I think it's perfectly possible and reasonable to have both keyboard and tablet oriented usage05:34
dr_willisor you can disable the desktop feature of nautlius as a extra work around05:34
wilee-nileeyou can make the top panel clear as well05:34
* dr_willis wonders how to use the hud on a tablet. ;)05:34
wilee-nileepanel on the desltop that is05:35
ramy_danyone here noticing that cups is not starting with ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04 ?05:35
dr_williswilee-nilee:  and that can look nasty with some themes05:35
Snowiedr_willis, yes. but i have to say, it's the same route that all distros are going. merging the desktop and the tablet/touch interface. i prefer ubuntu's take. Ever tried to easily switch to next track on an android phone. out of app, open music app, click next etc etc. why not big fat button that lets you type a few letters and see options for all your open apps05:36
wilee-nileedr_willis, I suppose so, it is just an option.05:36
wilee-nileetransparent is what I mean.05:36
randiokay, I fully give up! I have spent hours trying to fix my wifi! :/05:36
dr_willisi caught the wife tapping  her laptops lcd screen the other day... Trying to select somthing.. :) then she realized it was not her tablet.....05:36
wilee-nileelol05:37
Snowierandi, if you had given up, you wouldn't be here ;)05:37
Snowiedr_willis, there is a video on the web of an infant trying to use a magazine like an ipad... and looking disappointed with the results05:38
undecimIs there any way to get the Trash and Switcher icons of the launcher?05:38
undecims/of/off/05:38
dr_willisgot some usb-wifi dongles the other day off amazon. totally plug and play in ubuntu. Lglad i read the reviews. ;)05:38
wilee-nileedr_willis, Good ammo when she questions your intelligence.05:38
dr_willisundecim:  myunity, has settings for that05:38
randiSnowie, true true05:39
undecimdr_willis: I can only find the settings for the "Show Desktop" icon.05:39
Snowierandi, so, whats happening. can you tell us what wifi adapter you have. built in/usb make model etc etc05:39
dr_willisundecim:  not on a ppc at the moment. but i saw them in MyUnity, or in  Ubuntu-tweak and i havent been using U-T much lately.05:39
dr_willisi recall turning off the trask with some slider button in a tweak tool last week05:40
randiAetheros  5800 built in05:40
Snowieok. so can you detect the thing at all? does it show up in ifconfig? can you see wireless options in the network manager05:41
randiworked fine until i upgraded to 12.04.05:41
* dr_willis wonders if it would work from a 12.04 live cd05:41
Snowieif you open a terminal and run ifconfig do you see wlan0 there?05:41
randinot  anymore05:42
Snowiedr_willis, known issue?05:42
dr_willisSnowie:  with the 12.04 release the kernel and stuff has changed. so theres been a lot of very deep changes - hard to tell if  the upgrade messed up. or ifits a 12.04 issue05:42
randii did the madwifi ar5008 driver and that didn't work05:43
randishould i make a live cd and try?05:45
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xclusive585LOL, "##programming has some nice people". HAHAHAHAHAHAHA05:50
dr_willisrandi it would be a good test.05:51
Snowiesomeone here might point me in the right direction. I work in support for an isp, and our modems by default are configured to have gateway 10.0.0.138, everything below is the gateway is DHCP, and everything above is free to assign static. We dont support static, so theres nothing official in our docs. Is this a TCP/IP standard of some sort??? if so. where are the docs?05:51
Snowie*below OF the gateway address05:52
sbatteyAre there any immediate security concerns for a ubuntu server running snedmail to send mail through php?05:52
Blue1Snowie: afaik it's arbitary05:53
dr_willisSnowie:  so the lan is limited to 137 differnt ip addresses dynamicaly you are saying?05:53
SnowieBlue1, yep. i know that everyone in the know knows, but how does my poor end user know if there is no docs, and it's not even in the manual????? just weird05:54
Blue1Snowie: write the manual.05:54
dr_willisi do my home lan the opposite way. anything below 100 i reserve for my staticc servers and devices, the router hands out  dynamic to anything  starting at 101+05:54
Snowiedr_willis, yeah. but this if for home. generally wifi, so that's plenty05:54
dr_willisyour isp is decidening on it.. so they should mention it?05:55
Blue1Snowie: i think the big consideration is whatever you decide - be consistant05:55
Snowiedr_willis, yeah, but our company supplied modems are fairly locked. The big driver is playstation and xbox (and other port forwarding) at least home users with some knowledge should have a document somewhere05:56
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dr_willisif the device is for a home lan user.. i dont see how the  static not supported applies.. the ip range you gave is whatggs given out to devices on thelan.. thats not the same as the isp giving the user a static ip05:57
dr_willisor did i missread somthing05:57
dr_willis10.0.0.x is  part of the private ip# range isent it. i always use 192.168.1.x05:58
* dr_willis could be confused.05:59
Guest56914I had a question about /etc/cron.d files. As well as specifying how often the cron job runs and the command to run; is it possible to specify the user which the commands should be ran as?05:59
Guest5691410.x.x.x is part of the private IP range.05:59
Guest56914you can setup any subnet under that.05:59
Guest56914To answer your question more clearly. Yes, 10.0.0.x is part of the private IP range.06:00
dr_willisso the home user could setup his xbox with a static ip.  above the # stated   and be fine06:00
ActionParsnipGuest56914: if you su to the user, you can run the cron as that user06:00
Guest56914Ok, I was just wondering if it there was possible another 'column'. Thanks!06:01
ActionParsnipGuest56914: or:  crontab -u name06:01
dr_willisdosnet each user also have their own crontab?06:01
Guest56914I would prefer to not use crontab06:01
ActionParsnipGuest56914: read the man page for crontab?06:01
Blue1Guest56914: this may/may not help  http://pkill-9.com/scheduling-a-backup-script-with-crontab-for-ubuntudebian/06:03
strictlandi cant get windows to print to printer hooked up on ubuntu computer... help!06:21
mikeS11Hello strictland. try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu06:23
strictlandthanks mikeSll, ill give it a shot06:23
amanthakurhi guys, can anyone tell me how can i make a development environment for the GUI applications in linux? I mean what are the major packages that i need to install.06:32
reisioamanthakur: qt-designer / glade06:33
reisioalthough nobody serious uses them06:33
zombifieramanthakur: Use Qt06:34
blackcatnekonegrHello, I need to create a mbr for a usb flash drive, but for some reason Gparted can't, doing a low level format on the drive works (Yes I know that destroys the mbr) but then using Gparted I cannot create a new mbr, should I try gparted live cd or something?06:34
dr_willisthe question seems a little... vague.. You mean what Development envs. exist for linux?06:34
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dr_willisyou mean gparte cant partion the drive at all?06:35
blackcatnekonegrdr_willis, sometimes it does, but I keep getting error mensages due to the mbr not existing06:35
amanthakurreisio, zombifier i want to use C as the programming language, will that work with qt?06:36
dr_willishmm. sounmds like the flash  drive may be failing.06:36
dr_willisif you 'zero' the flash with dd, then use gparted on it. first thing it asks is what sort of partioning scheme to use, (dos or that other one). does that work?06:37
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reisioamanthakur: yes06:37
amanthakurreisio, thansk :)06:37
blackcatnekonegrdr_willis, I tried a full low level format and it worked fine, if the device was damaged I would have got error messages, can gparted copy a mbr in the live cd? I could try to copy the mbr from another usb flash drive of the same size, would that work?06:38
dr_willisblackcatnekonegr:  exactly what do you mean by 'low level format'06:38
blackcatnekonegrdr_willis, it "seems" to work, then later I get error mensages06:38
dr_willissounds to me like its failing, and eventually will totally fail.06:39
weiyangcurrently, ubuntu doesn't use /etc/inittab?06:39
dr_willis!inittab06:39
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/06:39
dr_willistheres some other factoidon thst weiyang  bit i think.. correct. no inittab06:39
dr_willis!sysv06:39
dr_willis!runlevel06:40
ubottuIn Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.06:40
blackcatnekonegrdr_willis, low level format cleans all the data in a hard disk, including mbr, is a last resort to make a drive use-able again, in theory after that, you should be able to create a mbr using gparted to make the drive useable again.06:40
dr_willisblackcatnekonegr:  how did you do this 'low level format'06:40
dr_willisbbl06:42
blackcatnekonegr dr_willis, I used a program in windows, however maybe the disk is indeed damaged, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_formatting, I will try the live cd of gparted it does have more options that the one included in ubuntu06:43
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weiyangi tried " man init", it mentioned "upstart init"06:46
weiyangthen except "upstart init", there is another version?06:46
amanthakurweiyang, what you are trying to do?06:46
weiyangamanthakur,  i am trying t understand after kernel boot up and fork the /sbin/init06:47
weiyangamanthakur,  what will be done to boot up the whole system06:47
weiyangamanthakur, how to configure it or others06:48
weiyangamanthakur, while, I face the confusion when find there are several version?06:48
weiyangamanthakur, different configuration?06:48
ogzyanybody who had experince with hand scanners and ubuntu usage?06:52
weiyangogzy, hand scanner?06:52
ogzyweiyang: like fingerprint but scan your palm trace06:53
amanthakurweiyang, https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=what+happens+after+forking+%2Fsbin%2Finit&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=Fdy&channel=fs&sclient=psy-ab&q=understanding+init&oq=understanding+init&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...4961.5541.2.5783.2.2.0.0.0.1.592.592.5-1.1.0...0.0.fSDJ69G54zE&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=8bd56e085f5f7fd2&biw=1024&bih=60006:53
randiwell just went back and installed 10.10 again until i find a fix for the wifi06:54
szalrandi: uhm.. 10.10 is dead, no more updates for it06:57
randiyep but my wifi doesn't seem to work on anything later06:58
randitried every fix i could find06:58
weiyangamanthakur, i find similar document on net,06:59
ForSparePartsAnyone ever have intermittent black screen / fan 100% with an AMD card?06:59
weiyangbut it still explain some thing on inittab06:59
MacFanhi niggers07:00
MacFanPlease fucking kill yourself you inept imbecil cunts07:01
wilee-nilee!op | Maccer07:01
ubottuMaccer: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler or Jordan_U!07:01
randilol07:02
wilee-nileeoops sorry Maccer07:02
ForSparePartswilee-nilee, is that just a list of all the mods?07:02
Tm_T ForSpareParts to alert all ops07:03
wilee-nileeForSpareParts, it calls the ubuntu-ops channel07:03
ForSparePartsops?07:03
wilee-nileemods07:03
chuOperators.07:03
wilee-nileemoderators07:03
ForSparePartsAh. Okay.07:03
wilee-nileeThey are usually on though ForSpareParts07:04
randii wonder if the ndiswrapper will work with the ar5008 drivers07:04
cougar_I was wondering if anyone might could help me out here. I initially created a liveboot usb from my usb external hard drive. However, when attempting to install ubuntu on my laptop, somehow I derped and installed it on my external. So now my laptop is misssing a OS and I can't get the liveboot to boot instead of regular Ubuntu. Any ideas or directions for search for me?07:10
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EliahKaganIt sounds like the problem is that your laptop doesn't let you choose which of multiple USB devices to boot, and is booting the big hard drive rather than the flash drive (and you want it to boot the flash drive). The easiest solution is to unplug the big hard drive from the computer and let it boot off the flash drive. Then plug the big hard drive in. Then do Install Ubuntu.07:13
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cougar_Let me clarify07:13
cougar_both the liveboot files and the now full ubuntu install are on the same external hard drive07:14
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EliahKaganOh I see, and when you boot from the external hard drive, it boots the live boot files instead of the full Ubuntu install.07:14
cougar_No, it boots the full ubuntu install07:14
cougar_But I want to boot the liveboot07:14
EliahKaganAnd you want it to boot the live boot files, to install on the internal drive?07:15
cougar_So that I can install ubuntu onto my os-less laptop07:15
cougar_yes!07:15
cougar_:-D07:15
EliahKaganIs the external hard drive the only disk you have besides the internal hard disk?07:15
kerrupt.07:15
cougar_Yes.07:15
cougar_Normally I'd have just gotten a CD-RW07:16
EliahKaganDoes your laptop have a CD/DVD drive?07:16
cougar_But it wasn't available at the time07:16
cougar_It does. But I don't have a CD-RW to make a boot cd07:16
EliahKaganyou don't actually need a CD-RW, a CD-R will work (i.e., the CD doesn't have to be REwriteable)07:16
cougar_Right. Excuse me. I meant a cd in general.07:16
EliahKagank07:17
EliahKaganbrb07:17
cougar_No problem.07:19
DaZcougar_: so the only os you have is on the external and you can boot it? :f07:20
waxstonein System Settings->Details->Graphics I see Driver Unknown but my graphics driver (Nvidia) was installed through "Additional Drivers" Widget. Am i missing something?07:21
DaZusually when i setup os on a different drive, and it's too dumb to let me do it with chroot, i set it through a virtual machine :f07:21
tnf-phoenixhow do i get my scanner working?07:22
tnf-phoenixnot a lot of libs when i sudoed.07:22
DaZwaxstone: does it work? :f07:22
cougar_Yes DaZ07:23
EliahKagancougar_: Since the live system on the external is probably not configured to be booted through the boot loader that was installed on the external in the installation process, the only ways I know of to make the external drive boot into the live system would involve booting from some other disk to change things on the external drive. That's not going to work for you, because you don't have any other disk. I think there might be a w07:23
EliahKaganay to boot into the live system on the external drive by issuing commands manually on the grub> prompt, but I don't know what commands would do that for you. However, there is another solution that comes to mind, which does not involve attempting to boot from the live system at all.07:23
waxstoneDaz: Im experencing RANDOM freezing so technically no07:23
cougar_I'm listening Eliah07:23
EliahKagan(typing) :-)07:24
EliahKagancougar_: Ubuntu's graphical installer, Ubiquity, can be installed on a non-live system, such as the system you can currently boot to on the external drive. You could install the package ubiquity in this system, and use it to install Ubuntu to the hard drive. This may or may not be painless, because I am not sure you have a package source handy. But you can create one if you don't.07:24
EliahKagancougar_: Before you try anything like that, though, there is something else that you should check. Are you absolutely sure that the OS *is* actually installed on the external drive? Is it possible that the OS is installed on the internal drive like you wanted, but that the GRUB2 boot loader is installed on the external drive? This would cause the operating system on the internal drive to require the external drive to be attached,07:25
EliahKaganin order to boot.07:25
yabooanyone using ivy bridge with ubuntu07:25
EliahKaganThis is also a much easier mistake to make installing, than anything I can think of that would both wipe out the internal disk and also install to the same disk that you were booted from for the installation.07:26
cougar_.... To be completely honest. I'm not 100% positive. The reason I believe it is installed on my external is because when I look at the files and folders on my external, I see all the normal system folders for a full ubuntu which weren't previously there.07:27
cougar_also, if I attempt to power on my laptop without my external plugged in, it goes to a blinking dash that doesn't change and if I attempt to press buttons I get a system beep.07:27
EliahKagancougar_: Does the external drive's access light activate (flicker) when you access these files?07:28
cougar_The external just has a on/off light. I.e. if it is powered on it will maintain a constant light (no flicker)07:28
cougar_However, I just checked, and I can physically feel the disk whirring in the external when I attempt to access new files.07:29
EliahKaganDo you know the sizes (about) of the external and internal drives? (I'm just trying to think of a simple way to check which has the OS, since your situation is already pretty complicated.)07:29
EliahKaganif you feel that when accessing the files and not otherwise, then it's on the external drive07:29
cougar_Right. My external is a terrabyte, but it did not install the whole TB because I had other data on it. My laptop is ~500 GB (I'm not actually positive)07:30
cougar_I really appreciate the help and you listening thus far by the way.07:30
cougar_Can you remember the terminal command off the top of your head for listing disk partitions?07:31
EliahKaganDo you have important other data on your external? Are you sure that data remains accessible? (We should be sure of that first.)07:31
EliahKagancougar_: the two most popular options are "sudo fdisk -l" and "sudo parted -l"07:31
EliahKagancougar_: you can list mounted partitions and their mount options with "mount" and you can list most mounted partitions and the amount of used, free, and total space with "df -h"07:32
cougar_I'm going to copy what I see here and see if you can tell me what I'm seeing better than I can07:33
cougar_Filesystem             Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on07:34
cougar_/dev/sda1              591G   12G  549G   3% /07:34
cougar_udev                   2.7G  4.0K  2.7G   1% /dev07:34
cougar_tmpfs                  1.1G  916K  1.1G   1% /run07:34
cougar_none                   5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock07:34
cougar_none                   2.7G  180K  2.7G   1% /run/shm07:34
FloodBot1cougar_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:34
EliahKagancougar_: if you want to try the Ubiquity idea, the actual package you'd install is ubiquity-frontend-gtk ...but i'm searching for information on this and there isn't a lot of it, Ubiquity does not seem designed to work in this way, so it might be best for you to just obtain a a few burnable CD's (a few in case you get a bad burn or something)07:34
EliahKagancougar_: that looks like output from "df -h" but if there is no mounted partition on the internal drive, then you won't see it; you might want to run "sudo fdisk -l" or "sudo parted -l" instead07:35
cougar_Yeah it is.07:36
EliahKaganyou can paste at http://paste.ubuntu.com -- that gives you a link to your pasted text, which you can post here07:36
cougar_Yeah. Thanks for that. I didn't know that previous07:36
EliahKagancougar_: Did you have important data on the external drive that you wanted to retain?07:37
cougar_http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014343/07:38
cougar_I mean... I would like to not lose it if at all possible.07:38
cougar_Do you have an idea that would require losing it that would work?07:38
vexaxvhey guys, does anyone use freeotfe?07:38
waxstonein System Settings->Details->Graphics I see Driver Unknown but my graphics driver (Nvidia) was installed through "Additional Drivers" Widget. Am i missing something?07:38
EliahKagancougar_: No, I just wanted to make sure you didn't *already* lose it.07:39
EliahKagancougar_: I wanted to make sure you have successfully accessed it from within your currently installed Ubuntu system.07:39
cougar_Oh no. I can browse to it and use it fine, yes.07:39
cougar_It is indeed still there.07:39
* EliahKagan sighs with relief. Good!07:39
cougar_Is there anyway to simply move the ubuntu install from my external to my internal HD? XD07:40
vexaxvokay does anyone know of a good flash drive encryption software for ubuntu 12.04 64 bit??07:40
Mnemonic^Hi, does anyone know how to make SSH (server) NOT start at boot time. I cant figure out why it is starting. There are no scripts for it in /etc/rc#.d catalogs.07:41
EliahKagancougar_: Yes, you can move it...if you can run off an operating system other than it. You could attempt to move it from itself, but this would likely not work, and you might have subtle errors in the target system as a result.07:41
cougar_Gotcha. So no. hmm...07:42
cougar_I wish I could just create an image and then push the image to the seperate hard drive.07:42
EliahKagancougar_: The best thing to do might be to buy a cheap (it could be relatively small, like 1 GB) USB flash drive07:42
cougar_Yeah. I guess so.07:42
cougar_Thanks anyway07:43
wilee-nileevexaxv, truecrypt07:43
vexaxvwilee-nilee yeah but that computer has to have truecrypt i wanted freeotf cause you could build it on the usb07:43
vexaxvi guess i could just copy the files over07:44
yellabs-r2i wnat to buy an Trust slimline tablet TB-5300 , does it work on 12.04 out of the box ?07:45
yellabs-r2any one got this running ?07:45
wilee-nileevexaxv, I have not heard of a app that will just install to the flash, you can buy a flash that has that though.07:45
EliahKagancougar_: I wonder if you can run debian-installer (the text-based installer that is on the Ubuntu alternate CD) from inside an installed system.07:45
EliahKagancougar_: That would be something to look into.07:45
vexaxvwell maybe ill see if i can copy truecrypts files onto the drive07:45
cougar_I agree. Would be great07:45
yellabs-r2is wizardpen installed , or should i install it to get Trust slimline tablet TB-5300 working, any one using this drawing tablet ?07:46
Abhijithi07:46
wilee-nileevexaxv, if the flash was big enough you could have a full install, a minimal anyway and a encrypted partition07:46
yellabs-r2ah , i see its ppa07:46
Abhijitwhats the keyboard shortcut to switch from 'Windows' Tab to 'Applications' tab in gnome3 shell?07:47
vexaxvi just bought the corsair voyager gt 64 gb the other day :)07:47
vexaxv100 bucks man lol07:47
vexaxvwas soo worth it though07:47
wilee-nileevexaxv, or just a encrypted minimal install07:47
yellabs-r2well, i guess i will just try it out, since no one has it here :)07:48
yellabs-r2thanks for your time sofar07:48
yellabs-r2:P07:48
EliahKagancougar_: unfortunately i have to sign off now, but you may want to research this...or, you could see if other people enter the channel who know (you shouldn't reask a lot, but as hours pass and there are more users here)...or you could ask (search first) someplace like the Ubuntu Forums or AskUbuntu or Launchpad Answers07:48
cougar_Right. I'm in the process of googling. Thanks a lot for the help.07:48
EliahKagancougar_: or i'll be back in here at some point and would probably be willing to continue looking into it...but it sounds like you want your computer working without the external attached sooner rather than later ....so, good luck! (and remember that suggestion about the USB flash drive ;-) )07:49
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Abhijitwhats the keyboard shortcut to switch from 'Windows' Tab to 'Applications' tab in gnome3 dash?07:52
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stuk_genhi all :)07:53
waxstonein System Settings->Details->Graphics I see Driver Unknown but my graphics driver (Nvidia) was installed through "Additional Drivers" Widget. 12.04 in 64bit?07:54
stuk_geni can i get a total md5 sum for every files in a folder?07:54
Ben64md5sum *07:54
stuk_geni can use md5sum * but this command get me the md5sum for every files not a total sum07:54
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Ben64you can't really get a total sum from multiple files07:55
stuk_geni can't get something like file1 md5 + file 2 md5 ecc.. ?07:55
Ben64what do you mean +07:56
stuk_gentotalmd5sum = md5sum(file1) + md5sum(file2) + md5sum(file3)07:57
jaggulihi im trying to set up a headless x server to connect to over ssh and run x apps07:57
jaggulii tried this Xvfb :0 -pn -nolisten tcp -audit 4 -screen 0 800x600x1607:57
Ben64stuk_gen: would be very unreliable07:57
jagguliand tried connecting using ssh -X07:57
stuk_genBen64: simple a md5sum of a folder07:57
stuk_genBen64: its impossibile?07:58
Ben64why can't you just `md5sum *`07:58
lorddeltaSo...classic question I suppose. How to script the screen on?08:01
lorddeltaI figured out the turning it off part.08:01
stuk_genBen64: ok...maybe i don't understand something...thanks08:02
lorddeltaxset dpms force off (among other things, such as using i2c directly or vbetool)08:02
lorddeltaBut how do I get the screen to force ON?! I can't really test this from an ssh machine, but its not working with at...08:02
lorddeltathat is xset dpms force on does nothing, apparently.08:03
Abhijitwhats the keyboard shortcut to switch from 'Windows' Tab to 'Applications' tab in gnome3 dash?08:06
userany cloud thing there is really must have on linux, some SaaS where you just thouth. WOW! thats i so cool08:10
dr_willishuh?08:11
CoJaBowat08:11
userLike Zoho.. i just want to host it my self08:12
userhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVpr4VD9-_s08:13
waxstonein System Settings->Details->Graphics I see Driver Unknown but my graphics driver (Nvidia) was installed through "Additional Drivers" Widget. 12.04 in 64bit?08:14
waxstoneanyone have any ideas?08:15
dr_willisrun the nvidia-settings tool see what it says08:15
fastaWhere can I set DPI settings for gtk applications?08:15
wawowefasta: ~/.Xdefaults08:16
wawowefasta: Xft.dpi: 12008:17
fastawawowe: that should also get me _smaller_ letters, right?08:17
waxstonedr_willis, x server settings panel runs/opens without issue08:17
fastawawowe: i.e. when I use a higher value.08:17
wawowefasta: lower value would be smaller letters08:17
waxstonedr_willis, says NVIDIA Driver Version 295.4008:18
fastawawowe: why? If there are more dots per inch, the dots need to be smaller.08:18
dr_williswaxstone:  sometimes those tools get confused and say the drivers are not in use when they in fact are in use.  the 'nvidia-settings' tool is about the only  one ive seen thats always correct08:18
wawowefasta: no they don't08:18
waxstonedr_willis,  oh ok, its just that ive been experiencing random freezing so trying to solve08:18
fastawawowe: because?08:19
fastawawowe: anyway, the problem is that I know have letters of 3cm high in Emacs.08:19
fastawawowe: if I set DPI to 96 I get extremely jagged letters.08:19
wawowefasta: if there are more dots per inch they stay the same size and the letters get bigger08:19
fastawawowe: then it's not per inch anymore.08:20
wawowefasta: choose a different number08:20
MoFactaHi all.  Quick question.  Anyone using Opera web browser?  Is there a flash plugin available for it?08:20
fastawawowe: then it will be jagged again.08:20
fastaMoFacta: yes, there is.08:21
fastaMoFacta: the same one firefox uses.08:21
wawowefasta: my fonts aren't jagged08:23
fastawawowe: and mine are.08:24
dr_willis!fonts08:28
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". For the official ubuntu font, see: http://font.ubuntu.com/08:28
pungi-mancan anyone tell me a good site to test my typing speed??08:29
abrahadabrai08:29
abrahadabrahi08:29
fidel_!ot > pungi-man08:30
ubottupungi-man, please see my private message08:30
pungi-mansorry!08:31
samfisherhi. i have a user logged in to ubuntu 12.04 but when I do "w" or "who" as root i get just, me, root08:31
wawowesamfisher: are they running a root shell?08:31
samfisherno08:32
samfisheri am sshing in as root. they're just regular users08:33
pungi-mansamfisher, just because you have only one account that is root08:33
samfisherhow can I see al logged in users then?08:33
samfisherand their idle time08:33
wawowesamfisher: normally w08:33
wawowesamfisher: try ps aux | grep user08:34
hceylanHey hot a problem with the sound08:34
samfisherwawowe: it works with ps but not with w08:35
hceylanI got 12.0408:35
hceylanI got a bluetooth input stream08:35
hceylanI am trying to output that08:35
wildintis there a particular ubuntu channel thats better for boot issues/rescue mode not working08:35
hceylanbut it doesn't work08:35
hceylananyone can help?08:35
hceylanI also tried with the microphone08:35
hceylanbut it just doesn't get diverted to the output08:35
ceti331_greetings08:36
wildintI'm stuck, grub reinstall fails, no details... rescue shell chroot fails with error, and I can't unmount /dev/sda to try and fsck it - not sure what's left to try and get this image to boot08:37
wawowesamfisher: does w -u show anything different?08:37
wawowewildint: chroot and run grub-install /dev/sda08:38
wawowehceylan: you're trying to output sound to a microphone?08:39
hceylanI got input from bluetooth08:39
hceylanI am trying to output that to speakers08:39
wildintwawowe, chroot fails with some stupid error about /bin/sh08:40
wawowehceylan: i've never tried that before but you might be able to do it with cat08:40
wawowewildint: what's the error?08:41
hceylancat from input device to direct to output device?08:41
wawowehceylan: yeah, cat /dev/input >/dev/output08:41
hceylanwawowe, I got /dev/input but no /dev/output08:42
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wawowehceylan: those were just examples08:42
hceylanwawowe, I see :)08:42
wawowehceylan: the devices you're looking for will probably be in /dev/snd/08:43
hceylanwawowe, would you happen to locate the devices, cause I cannot find for example /dev/bluetooth or /dev/bt08:43
hceylanwawowe, may lsof pulseaudio shed some light?08:43
wawowehceylan: i can't tell you what they'll be named on your system but they'll most likely be in /dev/snd/ and begin with "pcm"08:44
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wawowehceylan: yes it could08:44
hceylanwawowe, thx08:45
wildintwawowe, chroot can't execute '/bin/sh': Exec format error08:45
wawowehceylan: lsof | grep snd08:45
lohello guye08:45
hceylan cat /dev/snd/controlC1 > /dev/snd/controlC008:45
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hceylan/dev/snd/controlC1: File descriptor in bad state08:46
hceylansame vice-versa08:46
dr_williswildint: either currupt binary file.  or are yopu chrooting onto a 32bit os from a 64bit boot disk or visa-versa08:46
wawowewildint: try chroot /mnt /bin/bash08:46
hceylanwawowe, obviously that won't help08:46
wawowewildint: and this is assuming you have sda1 mounted there08:46
Guest11245Guys, I need to know how to pass by the password to install packets.08:46
hceylanwawowe, but thanks anyway08:46
dr_willisGuest11245:  clarify what you mean exactly.08:46
wildintwawowe, yup sda on mnt both disc and os are 64 bit08:46
wawowehceylan: run a program that uses your microphone08:47
wawowehceylan: and one that uses your speakers08:47
hceylanwawowe, that could be interesting08:47
useromg...08:47
wawowehceylan: then lsof | grep snd08:47
wildintwawowe, basically same error08:47
userhow do i start xampp on 12.04??08:47
hceylanwawowe, l'll try that08:47
Guest11245U have to install pack of "kadu" by terminal, but host want to type password.08:47
dr_willis!info kadu08:47
ubottukadu (source: kadu): Gadu-Gadu/XMPP client for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.2-1 (precise), package size 3887 kB, installed size 9912 kB08:47
Guest11245Thanks.08:48
dr_willisGuest11245:  you use your users password if they hae sudo rights08:48
dr_willissudo apt-get install kadu08:48
dr_willis!xampp08:48
ubottuWe do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information.08:48
wawowewildint: type "mount" to see if anything is mounted inside /mnt to prevent your from unmounting08:49
wawowewildint: to make sure run: umount /mnt/{proc,sys,dev,boot,usr,var,home}08:49
wildintwawowe, nothing else is mounted under /mnt08:50
Solaris444Hi all, just wondering if Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS supports the Intel Z77 chipset.08:50
wawowewildint: lsof | grep mnt08:51
wawowewildint: kill whatever process shows up08:51
wildintSolaris444, is there something extremely unusual abou that chipset08:51
wildintwawowe, I'm in the 12.04 installer disc rescue mode , lsof isn't even on it08:52
Solaris444wildint: Only that it's brand new.08:52
Solaris444It has USB3 built in I think, but I'm not especially worried about that since this is going into a small file server.08:52
wawowewildint: do you have any terminals that are sitting in /mnt?08:52
Solaris444And if the network chipset isn't recognised I'll just throw an intel e1000 in there.08:52
dr_willisSolaris444:  try it and see is the best answer.08:53
dr_willis12.04 server may work better.08:53
wildintSolaris444, oh I didn't realize you were talking about a network chip08:53
Solaris444dr_willis: Not really any good once the parts have been bought.08:53
Solaris444wildint: No, Z77 is Intel's new mainboard chipset.08:53
wildintwawowe, there is only 1 terminal, it's a fresh boot08:53
Solaris444I just mean that I can work around any issues with USB or networking.08:54
Solaris444But I can't if the mainboard isn't supported.08:54
wildintSolaris444, as long as it's x86 or x86_64 it should work, whether all it's fancy features are accessible is another question08:54
Solaris444dr_willis: I'm sure 12.04 would be better, yes. But that's not an option right now.08:54
Solaris444wildint: Fair point.08:54
wildintSolaris444, probably more important to check if the motherboard has and weird proprietary stuff on it that you won't be able to find drivers for08:55
hceylanwawowe, thx for help08:56
hceylanthat didn't help either08:56
hceylanI'll seek help in pulseaudio08:56
Solaris444Hmm, I doubt it wildint.08:56
Solaris444Phoronix has an article on Z77 from April. I might check that out.08:57
user!xampp08:57
ubottuWe do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information.08:57
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wawowewildint: how did sda1 get mounted in the first place?08:58
swine_hey, what would cause an initctl command to hang ?09:00
Solaris444what was the exact command you issued swine_?09:01
swine_initctl stop/start servicename09:01
Solaris444That wasn't the command you issued.09:02
swine_i wrote the control file for the service i'm starting09:02
zetherooJust did an update on my laptop running 11.10 and now my external speakers no longer work!! The laptop speakers work but when I plug the external speaker in there is no audio output at all ...09:02
swine_initctl stop zing-httpd09:02
Solaris444What command did you *actually* issue swine_?09:02
swine_if that makes you feel any better :)09:02
Solaris444ah ok.09:02
Solaris444and it's hanging when you try to stop it?09:02
swine_sometimes when i start it too09:02
swine_if interrupt it and then call stop again it won't hang09:03
swine_will say that it's already stopped09:03
Solaris444Then it sounds like your script is waiting on some information that it's never receiving.09:03
Solaris444I doubt it's initctl's fault.09:03
swine_it's a very simple script09:03
Solaris444zetheroo: Did you restart your laptop?09:03
Solaris444swine_: Even simple scripts can go wrong.09:03
Solaris444paste the script into pastebin.09:03
Solaris444I always say to my students that if you have 3 lines of code you probably have at least 3 bugs.09:04
swine_Solaris444, http://pastebin.com/FZmfWY8C09:04
zetherooSolaris444: yes, and I also tried deleting /.pulse and rebooting ...09:04
lorddeltaI'll repeat my question: How can I setup a script to turn ON my screen? I've tried at + xset dpms force on, hasn't worked. I'd appreciate knowing why, or if there's another path I can try to take. Like, an issue with at that would make a difference, or whether I should be looking into the i2c interface more.09:04
Solaris444lorddelta: What do you mean "turn it on"?09:05
Solaris444Do you mean wake it up from sleep?09:05
swine_Solaris444, you see anything interesting there ?09:05
lorddeltaSolaris444: xset dpms force off turns the screen power off. And blanks the screen (since this isn't e-ink). I want to be able to schedule the screen to turn back on.09:06
Solaris444swine_ most likely point of failure is the final line.09:06
Solaris444Try running it by itself and seeing what happens.09:06
swine_what do you mean by 'running it by itself' ?09:06
Solaris444lorddelta: You could always try simulating a keypress.09:07
Solaris444swine_: Issue the command to start you http daemon as it is written on the final line of your script and see what happens.09:07
lorddeltaSolaris444: If I was happy with making breakfast by pulling the string to pull the hammer to spin the wheel to...etc. etc., yes maybe I could try that ;)09:08
swine_Solaris444, it runs fine09:08
Solaris444Also it seems a bit strange that you would start on filesystem. It really should start on network.09:08
wildintwawowe, I mounted it myself09:08
Solaris444swine_: It's not a question of whether it "runs fine" but what kind of output it gives you.09:09
Solaris444lorddelta: Well since zset dpms force on isn't working...09:09
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Solaris444*xset09:09
swine_Solaris444, there's no output09:09
lorddeltaI want to know what the interfaces for correctly controlling the screen power itself might be. If I have to use i2c I suppose I could...but I've programmed screens/driver that used SPI/I2C, so I know that can be a hastle.09:10
swine_forks off, return code 009:10
sa7elakHello is there a tool to help me to get the right driver to my video card ?09:10
dr_willissa7elak:  what video card09:10
sa7elaksis09:10
lorddeltaSolaris444: Yes. But the solution would be to fix xset dpms force on...or understand why at might not be able to call that successfully.09:10
sa7elaksis671 <dr_willis>09:10
dr_willissis? Egads...  those things are very poorly supported by the company09:11
dr_willisdoes it work at all?09:11
Solaris444swine_: Then I don't know. You might just have to add some debugging information to your script to see where it's getting stuck.09:11
sa7elakyeah I've been told so <dr_willis>09:11
swine_Solaris444, what script ? there's nothing there09:11
Solaris444And like I said, you've got "start on filesystem" for starters.09:12
Solaris444Go through line by line. Pretend you've never seen it before.09:12
swine_eh ?09:12
swine_what's "start on filesystem' ?09:12
Solaris444In the 3rd line of your script.09:12
swine_oh09:12
dr_willis'run the service after the filesytems are all mounted'   (i belive is what thats saying to do)09:13
Solaris444Did you just copy and paste another script and then add your command to the end?09:13
sa7elak<dr_willis> i copied the driver files manually and to get higher resolution , I got the higher resolution but i still feel that the resolution is not correct also i get crash while playing vedios09:13
swine_Solaris444, more or less, yes09:13
swine_there's really nothing special here09:13
swine_or shouldn't be09:13
dr_willissa7elak:  hard to offer any suggestions. if its working at all.. you should consider youreslf lucky09:13
Solaris444swine_, stop assuming. Go and understand what every line of that script does and then you'll find out why it's hanging.09:14
dr_willissa7elak:  the forums or askubuntu.com may have some better info or guides09:14
Bug2000Any clues why writing to UFD be only 1/10 the speed of Windows on Linux?09:14
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sa7elak<dr_willis> thanks a lot.09:14
sa7elak<dr_willis> i will check it out09:15
swine_Solaris444, fantastic insight09:15
lorddeltaHum dum. Someone told akonadi to use mysql by default huh? Silly people. Some people installed mysql for other stuff ;)09:15
aLeSDsomeone knows where I could fins a -realtime kernel for 12.04 ?09:15
Solaris444swine_, you've copied and pasted somebody else's code, and you don't understand it. Why would you assume it would work properly?09:15
swine_Solaris444, because it looks like every other service out there09:16
Solaris444No, it doesn't.09:16
Solaris444Your script is hanging because the instructions you've given it *tell* it to hang.09:17
swine_and which instuctions are those ?09:17
swine_this is why i came in here09:17
swine_i was asking what's a likely cause of a hang09:17
Solaris444The 18 lines of code in pastebin.09:17
swine_uhuh09:17
swine_i'm guessing that this is a common problem with upstart services09:17
Solaris444No, it isn't.09:17
Solaris444It's a common problem with people who mess around with code they don't understand.09:17
dr_willisif its using network features - it needs to be told to start after networking is avilable.09:18
Solaris444You haven't even tried to understand the problem yourself.09:18
Solaris444I told him that already dr_willis. He hasn't listened.09:18
dr_willisnot after the filesystems get mounted09:18
swine_dr_willis, i'm running initctl on the commandline09:18
Solaris444Because it's "just like every other service".09:18
dr_willis!upstart09:18
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/09:18
Solaris444swine_, we cannot debug your script for you. You don't understand it and we don't have access to your computer.09:19
Solaris444Please, go and try to understand how the code you've written *works*.09:19
zhangeram I using base64 wrong or something? I have a file named "gen" filed with random numbers and i'm running "base64 gen" but it seems to just encode the actual text "gen" instead09:24
zhangeri tried cat gen | base64 but that didn't work, using ubuntu 11.0409:24
llutzzhanger: base64 <filename>    should work™09:25
Solaris444zhanger, you might want to brush up on your output redirction.09:25
zhangerSolaris444 what's wrong with it :(09:26
lorddeltaomg stuff works now that akonadi uses sqlite...why is the mysql default again? :P09:26
llutzzhanger: you're using the one from GNU-coreutils?09:26
zhangeryes llutz09:26
Solaris444you're sending the contents of the file gen to base64 as the input.09:26
llutzzhanger: does fine here09:26
zhangerSolaris444 because it seems to be reading from input09:26
zhangeralex@alex-ubu:~$ base64 gen09:26
zhangerZ2Vu09:26
EaglemanIs it possible to get some space between this? (date +%m-%d-%Y-%I:%M) %Y and %I09:26
llutzzhanger: "gen " exist in $PWD?09:26
zhangeryes09:27
llutzzhanger: try "base64 path/to/gen"09:27
zhangeralex@alex-ubu:~$ base64 /home/alex/gen09:27
zhangerL2hvbWUvYWxleC9nZW4=09:27
zhangeras i said, it's hasing the literal text09:27
zhangerfor some reason09:27
llutzEagleman: yes, use +'formatstrings formatstrings'09:27
zhangerquite puzzling09:27
llutzzhanger: base64 --version09:28
TBarthEagleman, date "+%m-%d-%Y %I:%M"09:28
zhanger... that just generates a encoded version of "--version"09:28
zhanger@llutz09:28
zhangeri think something's wrong with my version09:28
zhangershould i reinstall coreutils?09:28
llutzzhanger: output of "which base64"?09:28
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erapplemangrr09:29
zhanger /usr/bin/base6409:29
erapplemancan't build 32-bit wine on amd6409:29
zhanger@ llutz09:29
erapplemanis there really no way to do this?09:29
llutzzhanger: ls   -l $(which base64)09:29
TBarthUbuntu preferred the 32 bit version ;-)09:29
erapplemani have 24gb of ram09:29
erapplemanwhy would i use pae?09:29
EaglemanThanks TBarth09:30
zhangerllutz : -rwxrwxrwx 1 alex alex 6656 2012-05-07 22:24 /usr/bin/base6409:30
llutzzhanger: strange... size too small imho, owner/group wrong... reinstall coreutils09:30
zhangerllutz : does it matter i ran apt-src install coreutils earlier09:31
llutzzhanger: it might, yes09:31
tichkui i am facing problem in loading ubuntu on beagle board sd card how to do that....?09:31
dr_williserappleman:  normaly wine runs fine  for me - if im on 64 or 32bit  ubuntu.09:32
dr_williserappleman:  i normally only use 64bit ubuntu,and dont recall any wine issues09:32
zhangerummm llutz what would be the proper command for reinstallation, apt-get remove then apt-get install?09:32
llutzzhanger: sudo aptitude reinstall coreutils09:33
tichkuany1 know how to target a simulink model on ubnutu through matlab ....?09:34
tichkuusing beagle board09:34
anatrofHi all, could someone give an advise where to ask about bug report to ubuntu acpi ?09:34
EaglemanTBarth i currently use this $(date +%m%d%Y) in a script but i want to use date "+%m-%d-%Y %I:%M" in my new script, but its giving me errors09:34
himcesjftichku: Did you try #ubuntu-arm or #beagle ?09:34
tichkuno i will try that09:35
intorehi, i've a problem. after installed pam_mount on ubuntu 11.04, at reboot time it remains stopped at boot screen "ubuntu" and it doesn't go on. after removing pam_mount it runs. coul you help me please?09:35
himcesjftichku: And this is also a good resource - elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu09:35
zhangerllutz -- thanks for your help, reinstalling fixed it09:37
TBarthEagleman, in a shell script use this: human_date="$(date '+%m-%d-%Y %I:%M')"09:37
zhangerno clue why this happened in the first place :(09:37
tichkuhimcesjf it is not working i want matlab supportable ubuntu image for my beagle board..?09:39
EaglemanTBarth it's still not working: http://pastebin.com/yRrhuDax09:39
tichkufrom where will i get...?09:39
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mobherohi, how to setup VPN connection in ubuntu 12.04 desktop edition.09:41
llutzEagleman: how should that work? you need to tput all right of = into quotes09:42
Dr_Willisandchat has been crashing like crazy on me today. ;(09:43
llutzEagleman: this space "configbackup human_date"  is the problem09:43
TBarthEeagleman, OUTPUTFILE="/media/usbbackupdisk/configbackups/configbackup_$(date '+%m-%d-%Y_ %I:%M').tar.gz"09:43
Eaglemanyes i know, but i have no clue how to get it working09:43
TBarthThen dont use the spaces09:43
llutzEagleman: spaces in filenames are ugly, avoid them whenever you can09:44
zhangerwhat if you put single quotes around it09:44
zhangerbefore /media and after .tar.gz09:44
llutzzhanger: sure you can quote them, but then   ".... tar -cvpzf $OUTPUTFILE ..."  still will fail09:45
john_ramboI want to add a mount point for sda3 in /media/sda3 in /etc/fstab What do I write ?09:45
llutzzhanger: its easier just not to use any spaces09:45
Eaglemani think thats the best solution llutz09:46
zhanger@ Eagleman (not really a bash scripter though)09:46
Eaglemanwell its rocket science for me to zhanger09:47
epzil0njohn_rambo: you can use the UUID of that partition which you can find by using sudo blkid09:48
zhangerrgrrr09:48
zhangerrrandom d/cs :\09:48
cypher-neozhanger, What are you trying to do?09:48
Dr_Willis!fstab | john_rambo09:49
ubottujohn_rambo: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions09:49
zhangerrcypher-neo: Eagleman 's the one who needs help with his script09:49
cypher-neoOh09:49
cypher-neoEagleman, What are you trying to do?09:49
Eaglemancypher-neo, i'm trying to create a script that saves the file using a date with minutes and put spaces in the file name09:50
Dr_Williswhy the obsession with spaces?09:51
EaglemanSince it looks better09:51
Dr_Willisno it dosent09:51
cypher-neoEagleman, Okay. I've done that before. Could I look at your script?09:51
trevor_whats a good program to run to have my desktop randomly select from several different wallpapers upon startup?09:51
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Eaglemanthats an opininion Dr_Willis09:51
cypher-neoEagleman, Pastebin a copy of the script, and send me a link.09:51
Dr_Willistrevor_:  i recall some indicator applets or tools at askubuntu.com to do that.09:51
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Dr_WillisEagleman:  it definatly makes the code harder to read and managbe and uglier.09:52
llutzEagleman: you can use spaces but you have to put your OUTPUTFILENAME in quotes too if you do09:52
Eaglemancypher-neo http://pastebin.com/Wdm1qzxQ09:52
Eaglemanits all about OUTPUTFILE09:52
llutzEagleman: and as i said, its easier just not to use any spaces09:52
TBarthEagleman, that s no opinion, it s experience :)09:52
zhangerrwait can't you escape spaces by prepending a \09:53
zhangerrbecause like mkdir test\ directory09:53
Eaglemanconfigbackup_05-30-2012_11:47.tar.gz is what i got now09:53
llutzEagleman: if you don't quote OUTPUTFILE, it will end after " /media/usbbackupdisk/configbackups/configbackup" for tar09:54
Eaglemancypher-neo lets listen to the rest and do not use spaces, thanks for helping anyway.09:54
llutzEagleman: whats wrong with it09:54
llutzEagleman: one tipp: if you use date for backupfiles, let it start with year-month, easier to sort09:54
john_ramboDr_Willis, Thanks09:55
Eaglemanllutz its a weekly backup, and the disk is full within 160 days09:55
Eaglemanso i will do a clean up then09:55
llutzEagleman: you've heard about incremental backups? :)09:55
cypher-neoEagleman, Okay, umm...09:56
Eaglemanall i know about backups in linux is that its way to hard to understand for me09:56
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zhangerryou should at least rotate the backups09:56
llutzEagleman: have a look at rsnapshot09:56
Eaglemani'm just happy i got this working now09:56
zhangerrlike delete ones older than x days old09:56
lovelyubuntuHi I want to know how to install applications offline in ubuntu?09:56
TBarthmy backupfiles look like this "virtual_mailboxes-120528-120528040001-data.1.dar" Easy to sort even with differencial backups09:56
LjL!offline | lovelyubuntu09:57
ubottulovelyubuntu: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD09:57
cypher-neoEagleman, I think the problem is in the creation of the file itself. It's going to take me a few minutes... don't go away.09:57
cypher-neoEagleman, I'm going to load this into a bash shell and play with it. :)09:57
lovelyubuntuok so i can download any application by that way?09:57
Eaglemanit works for me09:57
Eaglemanit does what it needs to do so09:57
LjLlovelyubuntu: you should be able to, yes09:58
zetherooafter update no audio from audio jack though laptop speakers still work ... running 11.10 64bit09:58
Dr_Willislovelyubuntu:  ones in the repos at least09:58
userehm...09:58
Eaglemanand why should i use this? OUTPUTFILE="/media/usbbackupdisk/configbackups/configbackup_$(date +%m-%d-%Y_%I:%M).tar.gz" what is the difference without quotes09:58
zetherootried rebooting, deleted .pulse directory, installed dkms ... no change09:58
lovelyubuntuIs there any other way, i heard compiling binary from source. how is that? I don't have Internet all the time.09:59
Dr_Willislovelyubuntu:  most poeple dont need to use source09:59
TBarthEagleman, think of a string and you to make clear where it starts and ends.10:00
TBarthyou want10:00
useri have set a password on root user on mysql server from localhost.. hov do i add this to the phpmyadmin settings?10:00
useri found out10:02
Dr_Willis5 seconds after you ask... ;) isent that always the case10:02
lovelyubuntuApt on cd : This project has no files?????10:03
zhangeruser: not 100% sure but check /etc/phpmyadmin/config-db.php10:03
userwrong place though ^ it is /phpmyadmin/config.inc.php10:04
peterrooneyEagleman: also, because it's a good habit.  if you're in the habit of doing things in bash you can 'get away with', it's going to bite you hard when you can't.10:04
zhangeroh10:05
zhangeruser check /etc/dbconfig-common/phpmyadmin.conf10:05
zhanger?10:05
userI have found out guys :D and u both are wrong :)10:05
zhangerwhat is it then10:06
zhanger:(10:06
* peterrooney cringes upon noticing MM-dd-YYYY format, with a side of baseball bat.10:06
cypher-neoEagleman, What I ended up doing was breaking up the piped command into separate lines. There's no need to use pipes in a BASH script, so I broke them up and called the file using more variables.10:06
cypher-neoEagleman, I'm testing it now.10:06
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Dr_Williswhen in doubt toss in m ore variables and quotes and single quotes. and some backticks for  luck!10:09
cypher-neoDr_Willis, lol10:09
Eaglemanhaha10:09
Dr_Willis;)  dont forget to use obscoure bash builtins also!10:09
EaglemanI think i'm gonna quit irc now xD10:09
cypher-neoEagleman, Why are you using tee? If you're looking to backup the backup in a different location, why not use cp?10:09
deavidhi, a quick question. I'm looking for a kernel image which supports old cpu's in ubuntu precise 12.04; I have a LTSP and i need to change the kernel-image on the chroot in order to boot my pentium-II thin clients.10:10
Eaglemantee is to get the output of -v into a log file10:10
deavidanyone knows if there is a repository for that?10:10
Dr_Williswith spaces and quotes you gota sort  of think in how each time the 'string' gets parsed  - a layer of quotes gets stripped off and the variables interperted. so with nested quotes it gets handed down and parsed again ;)10:10
Eaglemanwhat?10:11
Abhijitdeavid, this http://askubuntu.com/questions/103536/need-ubuntu-with-old-kernel-2-6-31 and this http://thanhsiang.org/faqing/node/129 may help you10:11
EaglemanI dont see a reason why my scripts needs to get adjusted, it does exactly what i want it to do10:11
Dr_Willisfor moar speeds!10:12
cypher-neoEagleman, I'm just trying to get the filename to work.10:12
Eaglemanwell maybe, the only problem is that the cronjob is having some problems10:12
Eagleman*        4       *       *       3      /backups/scripts/sdabackups/ssdbackup10:13
Eagleman*        4       *       *       3      /backups/scripts/sdbbackups/hdd1backup10:13
Eagleman*        4       *       *       3      /backups/scripts/mysqlbackups/mysqlbackup10:13
Dr_Willisfancy bash quoteing skills - is a handy skill.  regrexps are even handier to know10:13
Eaglemanit should backup everything around 4:00 midnight10:13
lovelyubuntuGuys please help i want to offline installation of my fav apps.10:13
Eaglemanbut when i looked this morning there was something whole different10:13
cypher-neoLOL10:14
Eaglemanthe mysqlbackup was created at 8:17 or something :S10:14
cypher-neoOMG. Eagleman, I got it10:14
Eaglemanwhat do you got :P?10:14
niceguyplease I am trying to install mod_perl on my ubuntu machine10:15
TBarthEagleman, every day at four oclock: 0 4 * * *10:15
deavidAbhijit: those are assuming that newer kernels just doesn't work with old CPU, is that true? I believe that is some options in the kernel copilation that aren't suipported in the old hardware10:15
cypher-neoEagleman, Darn... Almost had it10:16
Abhijitdeavid, no idea10:16
sirknighthi10:16
cypher-neoEagleman, I don't think spaces are going to work, exactly.10:16
niceguyanyone that know anything on installing mod_perl???????????10:16
cypher-neoEagleman, Let me try one last thing, and then I'll pastebin what I have back to you.10:16
Eaglemancypher-neo i'm not using the spaces anymore10:17
cypher-neoEagleman, Well, in that case, I'll just pastebin what I have.10:18
Eaglemanhttp://pastebin.com/GaAfYAn010:18
sirknightim haveing big trouble with trying to get out of a boot loop10:18
Eaglemanthis is what i've got now10:18
angshow can I connect to an access point by the wlan0 interface using iwconfig command?10:19
cypher-neoEagleman, And what does the date look like in the filename?10:19
cypher-neoEagleman, Does it come out okay?10:19
TBarthniceguy, mod_perl? What do you want to do?10:19
niceguyTBarth I just want to install it for cgi10:20
Eaglemancypher-neo configbackup_05-30-2012_12:04.tar.gz10:21
cypher-neoEagleman, If you like it that way, then it works. I'm pretty close to cracking the spaced name though.10:21
cypher-neoEagleman, I just have to remember what I did before... I'm very close.10:22
Eaglemancypher-neo i like it this way10:23
cypher-neoEagleman, Okay, if you're happy I am too.10:23
cypher-neoEagleman, What was your problem that I was supposed to help you with then?10:23
TBarthniceguy, you can find the complete list clearly with: aptitude search perl | grep cgi10:23
niceguyTBarth please do you use mod_perl10:24
Eaglemancypher-neo i have told you some minutes aigo that i dont need the spaces anymore since the majority of #ubuntu told me its better not to use spaces10:25
cypher-neoEagleman, If you like it better with spaces... then all you need to do is learn how to put them in the file.10:26
TBarthniceguy, it s been a long time.10:26
cypher-neoEagleman, Spaces are special characters in BASH. They need to be escaped in order to work correctly.10:26
Luftihi ;)10:26
RunnerHey10:27
niceguyTBarth that command brought this out to stdout>> libcgi-pm-perl? does this mean its already installed10:27
cypher-neoEagleman, I've been playing around with the script you gave me. I think I've got it working. All I changed was how the date was formatted, and I placed the space in the file name, not in the date10:27
TBarthniceguy, if there is an preceeding "i"  in the list, yes10:28
niceguyTBarth, it was a preceeding v10:29
Luftilol, TBarth are my initials ;D10:30
sirknightim haveing big trouble with trying to get out of a boot loop. with no dvd drive10:30
cypher-neoEagleman, If you need any more help with your BASH scripts, check out #bash10:30
LuftiSuddenly two samba shares I did access via nautilus URL smb://share/something display an empty folder while other pcs can see the content. Also it's impossible to create a new folder ("Permission denied"). I use the same account on both pcs (one is U11.10, the other U12.04).10:31
LuftiAny idea? Is there a cache or stored config about this share on my local PC that I can/must delete?10:31
jolly_hi sakura10:32
TBarthniceguy, more infos with  aptitude show  libcgi-pm-perl. This seems to be a part of the perl core distribution10:34
fastaWhat does chmod +s do?10:36
fastaAnd where is that in the manual?10:36
TBarthfasta, s-bit for directores e.g.10:38
cypher-neofasta, set user or group ID on execution (s)10:38
cypher-neofasta, man chmod10:38
sirknightim haveing big trouble with trying to get out of a boot loop. with no dvd drive10:39
sirknighthow can i  get my pc too boot?10:39
augustlsirknight: reinstall perhaps?10:40
augustlif the reboot loop is due to a fresh install, of course10:40
yandex38Has anyone tried Fedora 17 yet?10:41
sirknightthen how do i get to the grub menu.. i have win 7 starter and ubuntu 10.10//10:41
sirknightgrub menu donest show up10:42
yandex38Ubuntu hides the grub menu by default10:42
lixsirknight: without DVD drive, you can also boot with a memorystick10:42
sirknightat one point yes,, but  it wont cauth on now after i reinstalled the mbr thinking it was that10:43
sirknightcant find the  usb drive at start up10:44
schreberis there a specific way I can search the repos via the terminal like apt-get search "blah" ?10:45
ironhalikschreber: apt-cache search *stuff*10:45
ironhalikand apt-cache show *stuff* for package details10:46
schreberironhalik, thanks10:46
ironhaliksure10:46
daniel_I have a problem .. when I plug in my headphones the sound is redirected to the headphones but I can still hear it in the speakers ..how can I fix this ? on ubuntu 12.04 x64 acer 5930g10:46
daniel_this wasnt an issue for me on 10.1010:47
yandex38daniel_: Have you looked at the config files for pulseaudio?10:48
daniel_yandex38, I havent..10:48
daniel_yandex38, can u point me in the right direction ?10:48
daniel_yandex38, in the sound menu there is not a such option10:49
daniel_yandex38, should I install a new package or someting ?10:49
GreekFreakHi all10:54
riktking /ignore -channels #mwsf10:55
riktkingoops10:55
anonymoushello10:55
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john_rambovlc's audio starts some secs late with the video10:56
GreekFreakI have installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a Pentium M with 500mb RAM (Old I know). Needless to say it's slow. I would like to know what I can do to make it run faster or if I should simply consider Lubuntu. I've logged in as 2D but tbh it doesn't seem all that different (in looks or speed)10:56
jribGreekFreak: use a different desktop environment (you don't need to install lubuntu, just install the desktop environment you want)10:56
Guest16612help to become a hacker please10:57
jrib!source | Guest1661210:57
ubottuGuest16612: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html10:57
jrib!bugs | Guest1661210:57
ubottuGuest16612: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.10:57
Blarrfflllol@jrib10:57
fayazhi, i'm in the middle of 'dd'ing a partition and it has been going on for several hours now. but now i need to view a file on it. can i safely mount this thing? at least read-only?10:57
GreekFreakjrib, what do you mean? as in not unity?10:57
riktkingGreekFreak: crunchbang minght be an option10:57
jribGreekFreak: yeah10:57
riktkingmight10:57
GreekFreakriktking, thanks. Is crunchbang the recommended one or is that your preference?10:58
daniel_yandex38, I checked pulse audio settings ..nothing worked10:58
GreekFreakjrib, I assume I'll still be able to run applications like chrome?10:58
riktkingGreekFreak: i haev used it before, it is a very light weight desktop environment. might be a decent option for you.10:59
jribGreekFreak: of course10:59
riktkingGreekFreak: lxde, xfce10:59
GreekFreakriktking, thanks.11:00
riktkingGreekFreak: good luck!11:00
Guest16612people I don't hear any CCW?11:00
GreekFreakriktking, oh so that's the difference between ubuntu, lubuntu and xubuntu? Thanks. it makes sense now11:00
GreekFreakjrib, thanks11:00
ultrixxhi11:01
riktkingGreekFreak: learn the phrase KISS - it wil help with ALOT of linux experience ;-)11:01
Guest16612hello ultrixx11:02
Guest16612ultrixx, you're here for a long time?11:03
cypher-neoGreekFreak, One point to remember. Most Linux distro's come with Live mode, so you can preview them before installing and see if Chromium or other programs work okay.11:04
ultrixxGuest16612: not usre11:04
ultrixxsure11:04
Guest16612well, to be honest?11:05
Guest16612ultrixx, you're where you?11:05
GreekFreakriktking, haha11:06
GreekFreakcypher-neo, thank you. I'll keep that in mind11:06
Guest16612Very funny11:06
GreekFreakI assume if I change the desktop environment that the ubuntu updates, etc will still work as normal?11:07
ania__GreekFreak: yes11:07
Guest16612for sure:)11:07
GreekFreakania__, thank you.11:07
ania__but it will update both : gnome kde itd.......11:07
ania__so it could download more updates take more space11:08
ania__not relevant if you have disck space11:08
Guest16612you pay about what say?11:08
GreekFreakania__, can I disable Unity (Gnome) and only have the one I want (e.g. crunchbang or lxde)?11:08
lycosahi i'm running 12.04 LTS on a notebook and i noticed an abnormal speed of fans, is it possible to regulate the speed :) thank you11:09
cypher-neoGreekFreak, You can... but it can be complicated getting all the dependancies to balance.11:09
jribGreekFreak: if you install multiple environments, you can choose between them at the login screen11:09
ania__GreekFreak: you can uninstall unity.....and leave just lxda.....or what ever you want....to unistall check google11:09
Guest16612You deaf?11:09
lycosathe noise is annoying...11:09
ania__deaf11:10
Guest16612thought I talk with myself11:10
GreekFreakthanks guys. I'll start with having both for now (for peace of mind).11:10
cypher-neoGreekFreak, Uninstalling Unity is complicated, but it regarded half the files on the computer as a dependencies. If you're that desperate to get rid of Unity, it's usually far easier to find an Ubuntu disk image that uses the desktop you prefer and (after backing up your files) reformat using that image.11:11
Guest16612all go to sleep: D11:11
ania__GreekFreak: yes leave it....it wont make it slower....11:11
cypher-neoGuest16612, What can I help you with?11:11
lycosai tried other distro but same problem :/11:12
GreekFreakcypher-neo, makes sense.11:12
GreekFreakania__, sounds like a plan. lol11:12
Guest16612No thank you!11:12
ania__GreekFreak: you better check CAIRO DOCK that really good desktop enviro...11:14
ania__like apple11:14
mpulisguys, i am having problems with my ubuntu. my network card disappeared. lspci doesnt mention it. eth0 is invalid. laptop is lenovo 3000 n200 - seems to be a broadcom chip11:14
curiousxye, and AWN (Avant Windows Navigator) :D11:14
cypher-neoI love AWN!11:15
curiousxme too11:15
curiousxAWN Lucido11:15
GreekFreakania__, will do11:15
cypher-neocuriousx, Yes! Yes!11:16
seigneurfuohello11:16
cypher-neocuriousx, Lucido is sweet, especially when you use the expander to push the icons around.11:17
jribanyone know of a program to banish the cursor automatically after the cursor has not moved for some configurable amount of time?  (I do not want unclutter as that hides the cursor.  I want to simply have the cursor move to the corner of the active window)11:17
seigneurfuohello11:17
seigneurfuoguy11:17
GreekFreakania__, CAIR DOCK looks pretty cool for my desktop (i7-950 with 6gb RAM). But it looks too resource hungry for the laptop (yes, I'm guessing here)11:18
zhanshime-1mpulis: i have the same problem sometimes,reboot may solve it11:18
curiousxcypher-neo: ye, it is :) here mah Lucido: http://i.imgur.com/TSlHv.jpg11:18
EaglemanAfter an init 6 my ubuntu system isnt starting properly anymore......11:18
Eaglemanstarting configure virtual network devices FAILED11:18
Eaglemanand before that i had an pch poisen interrupt11:19
cypher-neocuriousx, Very nice! Let me show you mine.11:19
cypher-neocuriousx, http://fav.me/d51nfmm I took this screenshot yesterday.11:20
curiousxcypher-neo: http://i.imgur.com/Y7b1W.png  http://paste.ubuntu.com/818362/11:22
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mpuliszhanshime-1, did that but no luck. the led's green and orange are switched on11:22
mpuliszhanshime-1,  im gonna try loading a live cd - see if it fixes11:23
cypher-neoChuck_Norris, I like that last one!11:23
Chuck_Norristy11:24
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a7471Hello everyone11:25
a7471can somebody help me?11:25
susundberg!ask11:25
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:25
Chuck_Norris!someone | a747111:25
ubottua7471: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.11:25
a7471whats the best program on ubuntu equivalent to paint on windows?11:25
cypher-neoChuck_Norris, What menu is that you're using in http://i.imgur.com/PnEup.png11:26
zhanshime-1mpulis:OK11:26
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cypher-neoChuck_Norris, Is that Cinnamon?11:26
=== Guest79012 is now known as ye
a7471I have a very basic ubuntu11:26
a7471its at my school11:26
a7471it sucks tbh11:26
FloodBot1a7471: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:26
TBartha7471, gimp ?11:27
a7471yer but it aint the same,gimp is more for animation11:27
susundberga7471, TBarth : gimp is quite much more than pain, maybe tuxpaint? "tuxpaint - A paint program for young children11:27
riktkinga7471: there is gnu paint i think11:27
susundberg"11:27
riktkinga7471: tux paint thats the onw11:27
a7471i aint a young kid mate11:27
susundberg"gpaint - GNU Paint - a small, easy to use paint program for GNOME11:27
Chuck_Norriscypher-neo: that was LMGE (Linux Mint Gnome Extension) and a shell theme11:28
yeHi guys!  :)11:28
MonkeyDusta7471  offtopic: http://partimus.org/11:28
susundbergtuxpaint seems quite fun, suitable for ppl in all ages: http://tuxpaint.org/screenshots/ :)11:29
cypher-neoChuck_Norris, Do you know if that extension still works on GNOME3.4? A lot of common extensions got borked in the update.11:29
a7471imnot sure if i can download because at school11:29
Chuck_Norrisand the extencion bottom panel, but LMGE is not compatible with gnome 3.411:29
TBarthtuxpaint lol11:29
a7471is anyone from portugal in here?11:29
cypher-neotuxpaint lol11:29
Chuck_Norrisnop i tryed but there is another extension that can do that i'll show ya in a moment11:30
cypher-neoGIMP is suitable for people of all ages too. Your actual results may vary though. lol11:30
yeHello,  I am installing Ubuntu 12.04 in /dev/sda10,  and I have 10.04 in /dev/sda811:30
lewis1711does anyone know what package will give me the header mpi.h? I thought for sure libopenmpi-dev would be it..11:30
yeNow it occurs: Failed to umount partitions11:30
Chuck_Norriscypher-neo: http://i.imgur.com/pNJMz.jpg11:31
yemigration-assistant needs to mount a partition, but cannot umount /dev/sda811:31
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Chuck_Norrisi'll tell ya the extension name, give me a second11:31
yeI didn't mount /dev/sda811:32
Guest14084is there a way to check for drivers without jockey-gtk or jockey-text? Mine crashes while starting up.11:32
cypher-neoChuck_Norris, Nice screenshot. I've had issues with Ubuntu GNOME3 recently. Lots of extensions are not working, even those in the gnome-extensions-common package.11:32
susundbergye: can you mount them by hand ? i dont quite get where the error appeared, during the instal?11:33
cypher-neoChuck_Norris, I couldn't get half of the common extensions to run on 3.4!11:33
EaglemanHow could my interfaces file be deformed after an init 6? it contained alot of weird characters when i edited it11:33
yecypher-neo: when importing documents and settings...11:33
yecypher-neo: and if i umount /dev/sda8, it will crash11:34
Chuck_Norriscypher-neo: you have to go at: https://extensions.gnome.org/11:35
Chuck_Norriscypher-neo: this is the extension for setting up the panel: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/208/panel-settings/11:36
TBarthChuck_Norris, how do you get the news on your desktop?11:36
Guest14084chuck_norris does not need to install ubuntu, ubuntu installs itself in his presence11:37
Chuck_Norrisyou can TBarth i alredy did a tutorial in http://ubuntuforums.org  section "Tips and Tuorial" but i can't see it, if you want i can give the post in forum format so you can see and mah post :)11:37
Chuck_NorrisTBarth: let me paste it11:37
Chuck_Norristhis is the post in forum format =P: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014592/11:38
cypher-neoChuck_Norris, Oh! So don't install the extensions from the repositories? Just do it one by one from extensions.gnome.org?11:39
terminhellello ello11:39
EaglemanHow could my interfaces file be deformed after an init 6? it contained alot of weird characters when i edited it11:39
Chuck_Norriscypher-neo: i have some PPA for that, i have webupd8 PPA and i pick up some from the ofcial webpage11:40
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cypher-neoChuck_Norris, I guess I just didn't look hard enough. ;p11:42
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Chuck_Norrisye, i can tell xD11:42
RNAndyBIm trying to build gcc 4.7.0 on ubuntu 12.04, configures fine but I keep getting the following error on make http://pastebin.com/mkfHdjyB, Could anyone offer some advice please?11:42
Take^Hello11:44
ogra_RNAndyB, why dont you just use the binary from quantal ?11:44
nyuszika7hIs it possible to make Nautilus recognize my Oracle Java 7 install?11:44
ogra_(including the toolchain)11:44
Take^I'm building an custom upstart job, which needs to have input from the user11:44
RNAndyBogra_, I am trying to build it as a cross compiler for another target11:45
TBarthnyuszika7h, already installed the java alternatives?11:45
nyuszika7hTBarth: Yes11:45
Take^I've tried the option 'console owner', but that doesn't really fit, since atleast when I run 'sudo start foo' I get the dialog output from the script, but I can't type anything to the script11:45
ogra_RNAndyB, what target ? we also have cross compiler packages, but only build them for arm targets atm11:45
nyuszika7hIt asks me to install OpenJDK if I want to open a jar file from Nautilus (though it works fine from the terminal)11:45
TBarthnyuszika7h, and java -version shows your oracle version?11:45
nyuszika7hYes11:45
RNAndyBogra_, i386-elf but the target must be i386-jos-elf for an OS course I am following.11:46
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ogra_RNAndyB, ah, well, then good luck, bootstrapping a compiler and toolchain isnt really a beginner task11:47
TBarthnyuszika7h, I can open jar file with nautilus, and I only have oracle java installed.11:48
nyuszika7hTBarth: It doesn't offer that as an option in "Open With"11:48
oratedHello! How can I start back a process which was accidentally killed?11:48
nyuszika7horated: Which process?11:48
oratednyuszika7h: plasma-desktop11:49
RNAndyBogra_, I wouldnt consider myself a beginner. I have completed this task before but I have done a fresh reinstall of ubuntu and now this time around it wont build11:49
nyuszika7horated: Unless you remember which user it ran as and the command-line switches, I don't know11:50
cypher-neoChuck_Norris, Is this the PPA you used? http://goo.gl/X4Dyp11:50
TorbenBetaHow can I display characters like: "€" or "ĝ" in the CLI (Bash)?11:50
ogra_RNAndyB, well, i'm not a compiler guy, i only use them ... what you are seeing might be related to multiarch though, not sure11:50
nyuszika7hTorbenBeta: With echo?11:50
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RNAndyBogra_, ok, thank you for your time11:51
Chuck_Norriscypher-neo: ye, and i'll show ya one more thing11:51
cypher-neoChuck_Norris, That would be the one PPA I missed. I'll have to go back and try again. :)11:52
jacksHi guys!  I have a stupid question. Why I cannot find /boot/grub/menu.lst by default in Ubuntu?11:52
Chuck_Norrisis about the Depin distro, that have some cool extensions11:52
AnomIf I'm sending mail via a contact form and theres no log of it in my mail.log, where's the next place to check? (I can't see anything in php.log either)11:52
mcb_1TorbenBeta: Use ALT GR+E for €. In my terminal it worked.11:52
TorbenBetanyuszika7h, I mean in general. For example: I want to edit a document using "editor"11:52
ogra_RNAndyB, sadly all our compiler specialists are at linaro-connect in hongkong atm, but you could try to catch hrw or doko in #linaro, they are experts and might be able to help11:53
TorbenBetamcb_1, I mean on another workstation without X. Like tty6, if you understand me.11:53
TorbenBetanyuszika7h, and instead of € it shows a grey box.11:54
Chuck_Norriscypher-neo: https://github.com/manateelazycat/DGSE11:54
Chuck_Norrissry link dead serching again11:55
mcb_1TorbenBeta: As i said it works here, with or withou X11.11:55
cypher-neoChuck_Norris, That page 404'd on me.11:55
cypher-neoChuck_Norris, Very funny 404 picture though!11:55
Chuck_Norrisi have the extension in mah ubuntone folder but... in order to be transparent i wanna to send ya to the github webpage11:55
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RNAndyBogra_, Great, thank you very much!11:56
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TorbenBetamcb_1, strangely enough it works if I start a terminal, but if I change my workstation (tty1-6) it won't display.11:56
cypher-neoChuck_Norris, It's okay. I know who to find later once I get the initial extensions working.11:56
cypher-neoChuck_Norris, Let me work on just getting GNOME3.4 to accept and use extensions. lol11:57
Chuck_NorrisxD ok11:57
cypher-neoChuck_Norris, I will definitely come hunt you down on IRC later and ask you questions if I have any issues. :)11:57
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Chuck_Norriscypher-neo: np11:59
oratedWhat does $PATH means? What does its output /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games means?11:59
TBarthChuck_Norris, which web technologie is used to display the grafic in your 404 page?11:59
Chuck_Norrisbut idk but, i can't find the Deepin's extension on github but here is mah link in ubuntuone: http://ubuntuone.com/5hccMzBg44XfC3i8PPQdcL12:01
silv3r_m00nafter I upgraded to 12.04 , everytime ubuntu starts , a nautilus window opens up , why ?12:01
silv3r_m00nI don't need that window12:01
Chuck_NorrisTBarth: noone only mah firefox web browser12:01
mcb_1TorbenBeta: Strange indeed, I can switch terminals and I have no problem here. Maybe you should check your keyboard setings......12:02
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m4rtijnhi12:03
m4rtijndoes anyone know where i can find a logfile from an USB connected at a terminal server client??12:04
m4rtijnkvm12:04
wawoweorated: it's that path of executables in your shell12:04
DeathslycerHi?12:06
Deathslyceranyone there?12:07
DeltaHeavyIs shutting down/restarting your computer using "init" bad for any reason?12:07
Sidewinder166312:07
Deathslyceri need help with my graphic card12:07
wawoweDeltaHeavy: no12:07
DeathslycerWhen i boot up and i use adm saphhire HD675012:07
DeathslycerIt says start in low graphic mode12:07
DeltaHeavywawowe: THanks12:07
wawoweDeathslycer: what's the issue?12:07
DeathslycerWhen i start with linux12:08
DeathslycerWait12:08
Deathslycerokey when i have my VGA in my graphic card entrance and i boot it says start in low graphic mode12:08
DeathslycerBut when i switch it to onboard its normal12:08
DeathslycerI cant use my 2 gigs of grapphic card12:08
DeltaHeavyDeathslycer: ATI cards aren't supported nearly as well for Linux compared to NVidea card. I avoid ATI like nuts for any computer that might be running Linux.12:09
DeathslycerThe problem is i cant install windows anymore,And if i use wine?12:09
DeltaHeavyDeathslycer: Are there any Linux drivers for this card on the ATI website.12:09
Deathslycerbootmgr is missing12:09
Dr_WillisDeathslycer:  you did install the ati drivers for your card?12:09
DeltaHeavyDeathslycer: Why can't you install Windows anymore?12:09
DeathslycerYes i isntalledi the druiverst stil gives me the same error12:10
Deathslycerdrivers12:10
DeltaHeavyDeathslycer: You can use GRUB to boot Windows instead of bootmgr12:10
DeathslycerHow?12:10
Dr_WillisMost windows pcs come with a tool to make a restore cd set. or grub often finds and makes an entry for the windows 'rescue/recovery' partition.12:10
Dr_WillisGrub shows that partion on all my windows machines12:10
wawoweDeathslycer: install the ati drivers: sudo apt-get install fglrx12:10
Deathslycerill try12:10
DeathslycerThanks12:11
Deathslycerif it works12:11
Pierrebi just installed ubuntu and it looked fine, after booting it show the loading screen with the 4 dots but then it show a grey screen and nothing is happening12:11
DeathslycerStill thanks for the support12:11
Dr_WillisPierreb:  what video card?12:11
Pierrebnvidia 42012:11
Pierrebshould i have skipped the install 3rd party software?12:11
wawowePierreb: hit esc while it's booting12:12
DeathslycerLets try it out :d12:12
Pierrebwawowe: that show details?12:12
cellfunhello!12:12
wawowePierreb: yeah, can help you figure out what's going wrong12:12
Chuck_NorrisPierreb: good idea, that way you will use "nouveau" intead of the priopretary driver, but with nouveau you can not play 3D games like Urban Terror =(12:13
cellfunI am trying to sed this rss from my terminal, but it shows 10 lines , I only need 5 of them, any suggestions ? the top 5 . wget -q -O - http://www.makeuseof.com/service/linux/feed | sed -n '1,/<title>/d; s/.*<title>\(.*\)<\/title>.*/\1/p12:13
DeltaHeavyPierreb: I suggest you remove that driver and install the proprietary one that can be found on NVidea's website.12:13
cellfunI am trying to sed this rss from my terminal, but it shows 10 lines , I only need 5 of them, any suggestions ? the top 5 . wget -q -O - http://www.makeuseof.com/service/linux/feed | sed -n '1,/<title>/d; s/.*<title>\(.*\)<\/title>.*/\1/p'12:13
Dr_WillisPierreb:  try the nomodeset option, and install the nvidia drivers if you get to teh desktop.12:14
Dr_WillisYou want to try the drivers fromt eh repos first. not the ones from the nvidia web site.12:14
Deathslycerthanks12:14
DeathslycerIt worked12:14
Picicellfun: head -n512:14
PierrebProblem is i dont get to desktop :-/12:14
DeltaHeavycellfun: Please don't spam you're question. If I"m understanding your question just pipe STDOUT through 'head -5'12:14
Pierrebwill recovery mode help?12:14
Dr_Willis!nomodeset | Pierreb12:14
ubottuPierreb: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter12:14
cellfunDeltaHeavy, I am sorry :(12:15
Chuck_Norrisif Pierreb mark the 3 part sofware, he alredy have nvidia propietraty driver using it12:15
DeltaHeavyPierreb: cellfun: Don't worry about it, just don't do it again. Repost maybe every 15 minutes or so, IRC isn't as much of a "chatty" protocol as many would believe.12:15
DeltaHeavyWow sorry I messed up that name addressing buisness @_@12:15
DeltaHeavyTired12:15
cellfunDeltaHeavy, it wont happen again12:16
* cellfun thinks he should use pastebin from now on :D12:16
DeltaHeavycellfun: Now you're getting it~12:16
Chuck_NorrisPierreb: you can see the logins screen?12:17
Chuck_Norriscan you*...?12:17
DeltaHeavyPierreb: Try pressing "Ctrl + Alt + F1" to get to the CLI. Press "Ctrl + Alt + F7" to return to the GUI.12:18
DeathslycerDoes anyone has knoledge about lampp12:18
DeltaHeavyPierreb: From there you can log in and operating your computer from the command prompt.12:18
DeltaHeavyDeathslycer: I do12:18
DeathslycerGood :d12:18
DeathslycerOkey it says mysql missing12:18
Dr_Willis!lamp12:18
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:18
Chuck_Norrisye, that what i going to write him Ctrl + Alt + Fx12:18
DeathslycerI know i use it :D12:18
DeathslycerBut it gives this error12:18
DeathslycerMYSQL is missing12:18
Deathslycerto be precise12:19
DeltaHeavyDeathslycer: What happens when you execute "sudo which mysql"?12:19
DeathslycerStarting XAMPP for Linux 1.7.7...12:19
DeathslycerXAMPP: Starting Apache with SSL (and PHP5)...12:19
DeathslycerXAMPP: Starting MySQL...12:19
DeathslycerXAMPP: Couldn't start MySQL!12:19
DeathslycerXAMPP: Starting ProFTPD...12:19
DeathslycerXAMPP for Linux started.12:19
Deathslycerjeroen@jeroen-Vostro-420-Series:~$ ^C12:19
FloodBot1Deathslycer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:19
Deathslycerjeroen@jeroen-Vostro-420-Series:~$12:19
PierrebChuck_Norris: i can see the loading screen, i tried hitting escape then some text flashed on the screen then it "loaded" the gfx driver and went "black"12:19
Dr_Willis!xamp12:20
DeltaHeavyDeathslycer: Oh you're using XAMPP, I hate that thing lol, I have issues like that too and end up just messing around to get things to work. Have you considered installing each package individually and not using XAMPP?12:20
DeathslycerHow?12:20
Chuck_Norrisok, when you are in the login screen type: "Ctrl + Alt + F3"   log in and type: lsmod | grep nouveau12:20
DeathslycerI only need the mysql package12:20
Chuck_Norrisand tell as if you see something12:20
DeltaHeavyDeathslycer: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server mysql-client12:20
DeltaHeavyDeathslycer: Those names might be wrong, it was a best effort but you get the idea right?12:20
PierrebChuck_Norris: i never get to the login screen12:20
Chuck_Norrisoh! sry12:21
DeltaHeavyDeathslycer: From there your server root will be '/var/www/'12:21
DeathslycerYes12:21
Chuck_Norrisso, try like you wrote with the rescue option12:21
DeathslycerIs hosted xampp on windows but im new to xampp on linux for the rest im quite good in figuring out.12:21
DeltaHeavyDeathslycer: This is a "REAL" LAMPP server, where XAMPP is more of a simulation. Great if not better for developing in certain respects, but nobody uses XAMPP for production.12:22
DeathslycerNew error i think this one this good  XAMPP: Another MySQL daemon is already running.12:22
ikoniaDeathslycer: why are you using xampp on linux12:23
DeathslycerI use it and it works on my mini laptop12:23
DeltaHeavyDeathslycer: TO make things easier on you just fully remove XAMPP to avoid such things.12:23
ikoniaDeathslycer: lamp is more apporpriate for linux as you don't need the self contained environment of xammp12:23
Dr_Willislamp can work just as well12:23
DeathslycerWell im using it becouse my windows broke and i cant recover i installed linux using a net boot command list12:23
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DeathslycerI will use lampp12:23
Dr_Willissince xampp is not supported by this channel... good idea12:23
Chuck_NorrisPierreb: could be the bugy version of the nvidia 295.40 (already confirmed by Nvidia)12:24
PierrebChuck_Norris: so im at the recovery mode, what should i do then?12:24
DeltaHeavyDeathslycer: You'll learn a lot more this way as it's not some simulated enviroment. I had to use XAMPP for a course once and hated every moment of it lol. Was nice I could just bring around my whole production enviroment on a USB though. I'd say that's it's only advantage.12:24
Chuck_Norrisif it is, may or ma not be solved by using a PPA and install 295.5312:25
Chuck_NorrisPierreb: aptitude search nvidia-current12:25
Chuck_Norristell us if is installed12:25
Pierrebso choose root option?12:25
DeathslycerDamn i know why i dint extract it i moved it stopid me -.- XD12:26
Chuck_Norrisye12:26
DeltaHeavyChuck_Norris: Does that deal with the propriety driver or the open source GNU one?12:26
Pierrebaptitude not installed, ill check with apt-get?12:27
Chuck_NorrisPierreb: sudo apt-get install aptitude12:27
DeltaHeavyChuck_Norris: Did you see my message above? If it's the open source GNU driver I highly advise against getting it.12:28
Chuck_Norrisye i saw12:28
Chuck_Norrisbut you don't have problems, so i dont chat with you :D12:29
Chuck_NorrisIRC is not a caht room :D12:29
Vinnie_winFresh Ubuntu, I'm trying to build an applicationl. I added g++ compiler, and now I get a missing include "Xlib.h", how do I get that?12:29
Chuck_Norrisi meant a solcial chat room xD12:30
DeltaHeavyChuck_Norris: I'm trying to help Deathslycer though. I don't know why you'd suggest the open driver over the proprietary one.12:30
DeltaHeavyIMO we should just link him the propriery driver to grab with 'wget' and have him install it.12:30
PierrebChuck_Norris: that failed, w: not using locking for read only lock file blablabal12:31
newlou-oscan wordpress be loaded in Zorin?12:31
Pierrebeither way, would a reinstall without the 3rd party drivers work?12:31
Vinnie_winHow do I get xfree86-devel ?12:31
Chuck_NorrisPierreb: what command gives you that outputs?12:31
Pierrebsudo apt-get install aptitude12:31
DeltaHeavyPierreb: IMO, don't bother getting the free driver. Push Ubuntu into CLI mode and download the proprietary driver. If you tell me what card it is I can get you the link and you can download it directly from the command prompt12:32
PierrebDeltaHeavy: nvidia 420 gts12:32
DeltaHeavyPierreb: It's always better getting drivers made by the people who made the hardware than some reversed engineered garbage.12:32
Chuck_Norrisye, that will solve, becouse that way you will use nouveau, but, you can not play 3D games like Urban Terror with nouveau12:32
Pierrebyeah i need the nvidia driver cause xbmc wont work with the open source one12:32
Chuck_Norrissolve it12:32
DeltaHeavyPierreb: On your Ubuntu box, Press Ctrl + Alt + F112:33
Pierrebtried it on fedora and the screen flickered like crazy12:33
DeltaHeavyPierreb: Oh yeah Fedora HATES graphical drivers, just kills everything lol12:33
PierrebDeltaHeavy: yeah why i went for ubuntu :)12:33
Pierrebcouldnt figure out how to get the drivers to work12:33
Chuck_Norrisso, once you have the desktop, you can add the x-swat PPA and install 295.53 nvidia driver version12:33
DeltaHeavyPierreb: You running 32-bit?12:33
Pierreb64-bit12:34
Pierrebbut either way i cant get to the desktop12:34
Chuck_Norrisor the Upubuntu PPA (i know, Do not recomend unoficial PPA)12:34
Pierrebso should i reinstall and then later install the nvidia drivers?12:34
DeltaHeavyPierreb: Press Ctrl + Alt + F112:34
DeltaHeavyPierreb: From anywhere, should just kill the GUI12:34
Vinnie_winWhat package do I install to get freetype.h12:34
Pierrebi did and im at a cli in recovery mode12:34
DeltaHeavyPierreb: Now run 'wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/295.53/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.53.run'12:35
Chuck_NorrisPierreb: paste:  lsmod | grep nvidia12:35
Pierrebyay for short stuff12:35
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DeltaHeavyPierreb: Let me just find out how to turn off XORG these days. I think it's changed12:36
PierrebChuck_Norris: it says 12319264     012:36
Chuck_NorrisPierreb: do not say "nvidia" anywhere?12:37
DeltaHeavyPierreb: From the CLI menu execute 'sudo service stop lightdm'12:37
intoregood afternoon. i have a problem, i installed and configures pam_mount on ubuntu 11.04. it runs logging by shell but at boot time it stops on the start screen "ubuntu" and it doesn't nothing. please, could you help me please?12:37
DeltaHeavyPierreb: Then just run that script you downloaded with 'wget' by running './<script name>'. Remember you can use 'Tab' for auto-complete.12:37
PierrebChuck_Norris: nope12:37
Chuck_NorrisPierreb: paste:  lsmod | grep nouveau12:38
dwarderis it possible to see in realtime what's happening in other users cli?12:38
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sirknighti have a flash drive that is mostly hidden.. i can still get to it with yumi but i want it to boot my linux off there so i can repair my pc12:38
DeltaHeavyPierreb: From there you'll be guided through a setup and it should remove any other drivers while it's at it. When you'ore done just execute 'sudo service lightdm start'12:38
Chuck_Norrismaybe becouse you are in the CLI thats the reason why you do not have the module load -.-12:38
sirknighthow do i get the flash drive to show up?12:38
Chuck_NorrisxD12:38
Dr_Willisdwarder:  witht he right setup - yes.. easy way . get with the user and set up screen or byobu so you can 'share'  the cli12:39
PierrebDeltaHeavy: kk trying to type the url, Chuck_Norris: no output from that one12:39
DeltaHeavyChuck_Norris: The GUI is still running until he runs 'sudo service lightdm stop'.12:39
Dr_Willissirknight:  'mostly' hidden meaning what exactly?12:39
DeltaHeavyChuck_Norris: The GUI runs on tty7 while CLIs run on tty1-612:39
ironhalikyou can just sudo kill lightdm, it will kill xorg and stuff12:40
tomas__im new here :-)12:41
Sidewindertomas__, Welcome! :-)12:41
Vinnie_winhow do I get the alsa lib/headers to compile?12:42
sirknightDr_Willis,  theres only a a muilti-boot win app i can use,, the computer cant see the flash drive12:42
Chuck_Norrisok, well download an run the nvidia driver but first: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current12:42
sirknightDr_Willis,  with linux how to i see is the drive is there?12:43
Dr_Willissirknight:  depending on how you put the disrto on the flash drive. there may not be any free space to use.12:43
DeltaHeavysirknight: If it's mounted you can just use the 'mount' command. Otherwise you can find it in the '/dev/' directory.12:43
Pierrebso network is down12:43
Dr_Willissirknight:  check with the sudo blkid command to see if the device is seen12:43
Chuck_Norristhen it will pup up a ncurses interface and you can move around with <tab>12:43
Dr_Willisimageing an iso file straight to a flash drive can cause.. strangeness12:44
DeltaHeavyPierreb: Did you try downloading it after you turned off your GUI (XORG)?12:44
__gilleshi12:44
PierrebDeltaHeavy: i never turned it off, i booted into secure-mode and choose root12:44
PierrebDeltaHeavy: trying to figure out how to start the network in ubuntu (used to oel/redhat)12:44
__gillesi installed ubuntu 12.04, i then installed the 'tritium' window manager12:44
__gilleshowever i don't see a way to select it on gdm12:45
DeltaHeavyPierreb: For some god awful reason "NetworkManager" is a GUI only tool and is what is often required to maintain an internet connection when it's already configured. Try starting the NetworkManager service, or boot into a normal mode and just get into the CLI (I know the GUI hangs) with Ctrl + Alt + F112:45
intoreno ideas?12:45
__gilleshow do you change the window manager for a specific user12:45
Dr_Willis__gilles:  make a proper session .desktop file for it to launch whatever commands you need to run12:45
Dr_Willis__gilles:  look at the ubuntu.desktop file as an example12:46
sirknightDr_Willis, DeltaHeavy ,  http://pastebin.com/ei8agkpP12:46
__gillesok thanks !12:46
jrib__gilles: or just have the user choose the window manager he wants at the login screen12:46
Pierrebguys ill try to reinstall the machine and skip 3rd party software12:46
__gillesjrib: that's what i wanted12:46
Pierrebones i get in ill try to install the damn nvidia drivers12:46
__gillesbut it does not appear in the list after being installed from packages12:46
jrib__gilles: what window manager?12:47
sirknightDr_Willis, DeltaHeavy ,  im looking for the 32 gb flash drive , not the 1.5 tb  drive12:47
__gillesi'll try the .desktop way and see how it goes12:47
__gillesjrib: tritum12:47
gvoI am trying to generate a bootable linux system on a USB hard drive. So I plugged in the Ubuntu 12.04 alternative CD ( the normal one panics on boot), pointed the partitioner/installer to the /dev/sdb drive and it seemed to run OK.  When it asked if I wanted to put grub on the MBR of my hard drive, I replied no so it asked where I wanted it.  I replied /dev/sdb.  I saw the hd light flicker...12:47
gvo...so assumed it worked.  It didn't on boot I get Error file not found and a grub rescue  prompt12:47
jrib__gilles: I see no tritum package12:47
DeltaHeavysirknight: execute the following to get to your flashdrive 'sudo -i && mkdir /media/flashdrive/ && mount /dev/sdf1 /media/flashdrive/ && cd /media/flashdrive/ && logout'12:47
Chuck_NorrisPierreb: maybe the service "NetworkManager" is not runing on the rescue mode: sudo service network-manager start   may do the job12:48
DeltaHeavyPierreb: You don't have to do a full reinstall, I'm pretty certain yuo just need to do what I said.12:49
Eaglemanwich 1 is safer? Squirrelmail or OpenWebMail ot something else?12:49
sirknightok12:49
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t432Any experts on eclipse/tomcat setup here12:50
jrib__gilles: i'm guessing you mean "tritium".  The package itself has a .desktop file.  Did you check if it got placed somewhere?12:50
t432?12:50
__gillesjre12:50
__gillesre12:50
sirknightDeltaHeavy,  i am not very good at command line but i know a few  things...    i just got a >12:50
__gillesjrib: dunno, but i wrote a .desktop file and it works12:50
t432having trouble running tomcat throught eclipse- "Cannot create a server using the selected type"12:50
t432through*12:50
__gillesthanks !12:50
jrib__gilles: you should file a bug if the package isn't properly installing one12:51
DeltaHeavysirknight: You probably typed a quote. I just had those there to signify that everything between it was the command12:51
DeltaHeavysirknight: and actually execute the following12:51
sirknightDeltaHeavy,  ok12:52
ultrixxEagleman: opensmtpd  http://www.opensmtpd.org12:52
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nyuszika7hIs there something for forcibly (SIGKILL) killing applications with a crosshair-like cursor?12:52
DeltaHeavysudo mkdir /media/flashdrive/ && sudo /dev/sdf1 /media/flashdrive/ && sudo nautilus /media/flashdrive/12:52
gvoHow do I create a bootable USB harddrive (not flash)?12:52
nyuszika7hI accidentally triggered a similiar thing with some key sequence once, I think, but no idea what did I press.12:52
ultrixxgvo: you don't "create" it. make sure that your bios settings allow boot from usb harddrive12:53
gvoIt does12:53
zykotick9DeltaHeavy: "sudo /dev/sdf1 /media/flashdrive/" your missing something here12:53
sirknightDeltaHeavy, sudo: /dev/sdf1: command not found12:53
gvoultrixx And it boots but gets file not found12:53
faber1988ciao12:53
faber1988list12:54
ultrixxgvo: ok, then you have no bootloader installed on your usb hd12:54
DeltaHeavysudo mkdir /media/flashdrive/ && sudo mount /dev/sdf1  /media/flashdrive/ && sudo nautilus /media/flashdrive/12:54
DeltaHeavySorry I derped12:54
gvoultrixx: I plugged in the Ubuntu 12.04 alternative CD ( the normal one panics on boot), pointed the partitioner/installer to the /dev/sdb drive and it seemed to run OK. When it asked if I wanted to put grub on the MBR of my hard drive, I replied no so it asked where I wanted it. I replied /dev/sdb. I saw the hd light flicker so assumed it worked. It didn't; on boot I get Error: file not...12:54
gvo...found and a grub rescue prompt.12:54
sirknightderped means?12:54
DeltaHeavysirknight: Messed up, I didn't put 'mount' in there.12:54
Chuck_NorrisPierreb: i forget, if you just uninstall the nvidia driver with: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current   then you will automatically boot with nouveau =P12:55
ultrixxgvo: have you got any idea why the normal cd panics on your system?12:55
gvoultrixx:  I think it has to do with a b43 driver.12:55
Dr_Willisgvo:  you didend say 'sdb1' by mistake did you12:56
gvoultrixx: I've seen bugs/comments about later kernels having problems.12:56
sirknighttranscend 32 gb flash drive    i think thats the close im going to get12:56
gvoDr_Willis: no I booted normally just to be sure and my grub menu is as it should be12:56
KrizOnehi guys, im running ubntu server and im just after a bit of help installing "imagemagick" for php, when i did the apt-get to install it, it installed fine but its not showing up in php, is there something i need to do to finish the install?12:57
gvoDr_Willis: ultrixx  can I mount the drive, chroot to it and run grub-update?12:58
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echo083how to know the maximum amount of ram that my laptop will support ?12:59
gvoecho083: check manuf, specs.13:00
echo083gvo, where ?13:00
DeltaHeavyecho083: It depends on your motherboard. The easiest way is to just look up '"Dell XPS 3982" Supported RAM'13:00
sirknightDeltaHeavy, sudo mkdir /media/flashdrive/ && sudo /dev/sdf1 /media/flashdrive/ && sudo mount nautilus /media/flashdrive/13:00
sirknightmkdir: cannot create directory `/media/flashdrive/': File exists13:00
gvoecho083: search for you make and model on line13:00
echo083DeltaHeavy, ok let's try that !13:00
faber88ciao a tt13:01
DeltaHeavysirknight: Execute the command removing everything from mkdir through the first set of '&&'13:01
sirknightmkdir:  i put the mount be fore the file manger13:01
faber88list13:01
Dr_Willisgvo:  you could boot the live cd and use that boot-repair tool if you wanted.13:01
gvoCan't boot the live cd13:01
gvoThat's the one that the kernel panics.13:01
faber88!list13:01
ubottufaber88: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».13:01
gvoThe alternative cd isn't live.13:01
Dr_Willisgvo:  theres other cds that have the tool see the url for a minimal debian based one -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair13:02
Dr_WillisIf the kernel panics.. thats very weird. :)13:02
gvoOK I have 10.04 here somewhere.  That should have it.13:02
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skaIm using an Asus mobo M3A78-CM. I can issue a pm-suspend and it suspends. but I can't wake via keyboard. Is there some keyboard trick, or other ideas? I can wake via the system power button.13:02
skaI checked the bios and didn't see any options that might change this.13:02
ironhalikska: is it a USB keyboard?13:03
echo083gvo, ok i found it even i expected a geek linux command :) whatever do you know if it is better to have have two identical ram memories stick or we don't care ?13:03
sirknightDeltaHeavy,  sudo mount nautilus /media/flashdrive mount: special device nautilus does not exist13:03
zaidles13:04
sirknightDeltaHeavy, you mean hat?13:04
skaironhalik: no, PS213:04
gvoecho083: not important unless the computer is old13:04
DeltaHeavysudo mount /dev/sdf1 /media/flashdrive/ && nautilus /media/flashdrive/13:05
newlou-osnewlou-os13:05
Dr_Willissirknight:  you might want to read the mount factoid help page. to better unstand whats going on.13:05
Dr_Willis!mount13:05
ubottumount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount13:05
ironhalikska: in that case, look around in bios settings13:05
echo083gvo, ok ! we don't care about brand too ? i can have a 2Gb samsung and a 4G crucial for example or it is better the same brand for the two sticks ?13:05
newlou-osis this the irc for Zorin questions? if not what is?13:06
PierrebDeltaHeavy & Chuck_Norris: was able to activate the drivers inside ubuntu and now it works (after reinstall)13:06
Dr_Willisnewlou-os:  the zorin homepage may tell you if they have an irc channel13:06
Pierrebthx for the help :)13:06
Dr_Willisnewlou-os:  because its not here. :)13:06
Dr_Willisnewlou-os:  or try #zorin13:06
gvoecho083: better yes I don't know if you can mix sizes that well.  Also it's best if they are the same speed.13:06
Chuck_NorrisPierreb: Yeah!!13:06
gvoecho083: It probably won't hurt to try it.13:07
Chuck_NorrisPierreb: see what is the version driver13:07
DeltaHeavyPierreb: No problem, glad it worked out for you.13:07
echo083gvo, if i had them i'll try !! but i need to buy them first :) i'll take a two sticks kit. anyway thanks for your help13:07
drecuteplease guys, how do I authenticate to ubuntu with an nis user?13:11
damo22how do i search the channel list for a keyword?13:11
drecutecurrently the nis client binds successfully to the nis server13:11
drecuteypcat passwd returns successful as well13:12
Daraeldamo22: /msg alis list *keyword*13:12
Daraeldamo22: Include the *s; it's regex-based as far as I can tell.13:12
damo22Darael thanks so much!13:13
sirknightDeltaHeavy,  Dr_Willis  http://pastebin.com/Tz9Wm1eu  this is what hppened13:13
erik32533on duel core intel should i use 64 bit13:13
sirknightDeltaHeavy, Using default user mapping13:13
sirknightfuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy13:13
sirknight and when i did it again13:13
DeltaHeavysirknight: Did it not open up the flashdrive in the GUI?13:14
Daraelerik32533: Assuming it's a 64-bit processor, which it is if it's remotely recent, yes.  There are few reasons to choose 32-bit over 64-bit these days.13:14
erik32533i get live cd13:14
erik32533to desktop13:14
erik32533it says preparing to install13:14
sirknightno13:14
erik32533but never goes anyware13:15
Toph2is a dual core processor always 64 bit?13:15
erik32533is it way im burning cd13:15
sirknightliets try to remount again and see if it will do it..  i had uit busy with the other command.. sorry13:15
sirknightDr_Willis,  thanks for the links13:16
echo083gvo, are you still here ?13:16
t432Anybody running an eclipse/tomcat setup on ubuntu?13:17
sirknightDeltaHeavy,  when i manually find it , its there..13:18
manolitoshello guyz i want some help pls13:18
charliehi13:19
iceroot!ask | manolitos13:19
ubottumanolitos: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:19
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manolitosi put ubuntu desktop @ my netbook and i got prob with wireless internet.13:20
manolitosThis package contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driverfor use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-,BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-basedhardware.13:20
asdf_what's the grub2 equivilant of 'savedefault --default=n --once" ?  grub2 seems awful and overkill :(13:20
sirknightok thanks i got it13:21
asdf_i'm trying to install xen on a remote headless server so i need to be able to boot the xen config just once to make sure it works13:21
gvoecho083: Yes13:21
echo083gvo, the command dmidecode --type memory returns "Physical Memory Array Maximum Capacity: 4 GB Number Of Devices: 2" is it 4 GB by slot or for both ?13:22
Chuck_Norrismanolitos: lspci | grep 80213:22
damo22asdf_, probably with the newfangled features they made it harder to do things13:22
sirknightDeltaHeavy,13:22
gvoecho083: 4 total13:22
manolitoswhat is that? i m new to ubuntu13:22
gvoecho083: so you need 2 sticks of 2 gb13:22
gvomanolitos: That's what you type at a terminal13:23
asdf_damo22: yeah, I'm not happy with grub2 at all.  i understand it can do more, but 99% of what it _needs_ to do is to boot your os13:23
Chuck_Norrismanolitos: open a terminal and copy & paste the command13:23
erik32533geez ubuntu wont get past preparing to install13:23
echo083gvo, cool :) 8Gb would have be cool it is too bad :(13:23
tatadid Ubuntu 11.10 recognaize wireless usb: ovislink wl 1700usb?13:23
gvoecho buy  a new laptop ;)13:23
echo083gvo, by chance are you a lottery winner or someone rich ?13:24
* ironhalik just got thinkpad13:24
* ironhalik a thinkpad :>13:24
gvoecho083: Well if I were the former I'd be the latter, but no.13:24
AnomI'm getting the following error /bin/sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected for the cronjob 15 * * * * /etc/mysql -u root -p cpub456852 -e update wp_postmeta set meta_value = replace(meta_value, '" />', '') where meta_key='image';"\""   /// What should it be?13:25
Mitchell_MAnyone good with Nagios for Ubuntu? If so can someone tell me how to add clients once i have Nagios up and running?13:25
echo083gvo, and/or would be my question logically correct ?13:25
damo22AHAHA13:25
int_uacan I get access to a private bug somehow? I need to see if there is any workaround. 974725 to be precise13:25
asdf_sigh, could really use help w/ grub2... in a pinch here :|13:26
echo083noone millionaire around here to buy me a new laptop ?13:26
manolitos@gvo i write that and?13:26
Guest91398lol13:27
Chuck_Norrismanolitos: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer13:27
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sirknightDeltaHeavy,  i think theres a hidden filag on the flash drive ,, how to find out?13:28
mbuckocan I install a second distro to go alongside ubuntu and having the same /home folder and same user? btw my /home is a separate partition13:28
Charlie410what are 'ops' ?13:28
ldgshello could someone guide me on how to install java13:29
fidel_Charlie410: in short - some kind of irc-operator13:29
Dr_Willis!java | ldgs13:29
ubottuldgs: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.13:29
fhtagnCharlie410: channel operators. Something like moderators.13:29
Charlie410k13:29
t432problem solved13:29
Dr_Willismbucko:  you could share teh home partiion. but trying to use the same named user. can cause issues.. depending on the 2 disrtos13:30
ldgsDr_Willis i already read that but i need to be guided13:30
ldgsIm idiot13:30
sirknightecho http://shop.lenovo.com/us/laptops/thinkpad  this is a good brand .. i heard many thinks that it works well with linux most of the time13:30
Dr_Willisldgs:  totally will depend on the 2 disrtos.13:30
kvarleyIs there a way to clone an SD Card with dd but in a way that the output of the device is half the size of the actual card? For example my SD card is 512 MB but the content on there only actually fills 128MB, is there a way to clone the partitions but with a smaller cylinder size?13:30
ldgsDr_Willis should i install 6 or 7 of the jre13:31
gvokvarley: you'd probably be better off cloning it then shrinking it.13:31
Dr_Willisldgs:  im mixxing up people im talking to. :) install whatever one you need. the open sourced java works for me.13:31
Chuck_Norrisldgs: 713:31
Chuck_Norrisless vulnerable =P13:31
bobweaversirknight,  I like everythig on this list http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/    and everything from system 76 and pugget elc13:32
kvarleygvo: How can I shrink it? I want to shrink the partition size. So when you write the image to another device it would create a partition smaller in size13:32
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Daraelkvarley: Is there any reason a simple copy of the files on it wouldn't serve your purposes?13:32
Dr_Williskvarley:  you could use resiZe  The partion on the sd card as small as you can with gpartd. then image that filesystem. not the whole device.13:33
kvarleyDarael: Yes - I'm making an image which is going to be written to a card to be booted on an ARM device13:33
Daraelkvarley: I see.  You're probably best off doing as Dr_Willis suggests, then.13:33
kvarleyDr_Willis: Would that carry over boot flags for that partition?13:33
Dr_Williskvarley:  bootable image. that does make it tougher. still you could make 2 partions on it. shrink one, then leave the back half unallocated. that way when you run out of space. its not hurting anything.13:34
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Dr_Williskvarley:  for boot mbr you need the whole disk i imagine. or could just image over the mbr.  You Might be able to image the whole device to a file then use gparted on the file/filesystems in the file. ive not done that befor.13:34
manolitoschuck norris check those photos pls13:34
manolitoshttp://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/857/screenshotfrom201205301.png/13:34
kvarleyDr_Willis: Ok - thanks13:35
fhtagni am looking into installing (l)ubuntu, and wanted to know what kind of encryption I can use, what are my options..13:35
manolitosand that http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/screenshotfrom201205301.png/13:36
manolitosgvo r u here?13:36
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manolitosany1 here to help? i upload 2 photos and i cannot install the drivers for wireless internet13:38
jtachello i want to make a image from my USB drive, how can I do that?13:38
gvomanolitos: yes13:38
manolitosdid u see the photos?13:38
manolitosgvo?13:38
gvoLooking13:39
Dr_Willisjtac:  dd can make an exact image file of a usb device.13:39
Dr_Willisjtac:  dd can also mess up your system if you do a bad typo ;)13:39
gvomanolitos: Did you try to activate it?13:39
manolitoswhen i press activate it told me the message @ the other image13:40
DaraelEver since the upgrade to Precise, my keyboard layout is stuck in the system default... which doesn't have any of the extra options I have set, and means I can't let other people who only type QWERTY use my computer.13:40
manolitos"sorry the installation of this driver failed, look @ the logfile for details13:41
gvomanolitos: OK Did you look in the log?13:41
manolitosno i dont know where to see for13:41
gvoThe message told you where the log file was,.13:42
Deathslycerhow do i remove apache13:42
gvomanolitos: /var/log/jockey.log13:43
DeathslycerAnyone knows how to remove apache 2?13:43
gvoDeathslycer: system/add/remove software might be a starting point.13:44
Deathslycerit isnt there?13:44
manolitosyes i go there and i dont know even how to open that13:44
manolitosi open it13:44
gvomanolitos: double click on it.13:44
manolitosye i did and there is a big message13:44
manolitosso13:44
DeathslycerItś command line installed but i dont know how to remove it again?13:44
gvoWhat command did you use to install it?13:45
manolitosi didnt use any command. when i open my netbook it show me that window i saw u @ photo13:45
manolitosand i press activate13:45
manolitosand then the problem13:45
gvomanolitos: sorry that question was for deatheslycer13:46
DeathslycerI cant find the command back?!13:46
gvomanolitos: so what's the error message in the file.13:46
sirknightbobweaver,  go for it,, i just go for the beast of a computer13:46
gvoDeathslycer: OK at a terminal do this "dpkg -l | grep apache"13:46
manolitos2012-05-30 16:09:35,958 WARNING: modinfo for module vmxnet failed: ERROR: modinfo: could not find module vmxnet13:47
BuboHello, I have a problem with my dropbox. I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014792/13:47
BuboIts on my VPS13:47
gvoDeathslycer: If you see apache2 listed, then try apt-get remove apache213:47
gvoDeathslycer: Stick a "sudo" infront13:48
Deathslycerokey13:48
timiniIf I add a script to /etc/init.d how can I get it to be picked up by the system?13:48
JyZyXELWith PAM, how do I accomplish authentication that will REQUIRE pam_unix.so IF pam_access.so is succesfull and if not, it would REQUIRE pam_otpw.so13:48
manolitosgvo did u see the error message?13:49
rkhshm1i'm trying to sshpass from 11.10 to 11.04 but when i issue the sshpass cmd it just waits and waits for eternity...13:49
gvomanolitos: Yes look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx13:49
rkhshm1i verified by simple ssh that all my credentials , remote hostname are all correct13:49
rkhshm1what is the probelm?13:49
aQuteskype is mnot wokjing properly on ubuntu is there a fix for it ?13:50
aQuteskype is not working properly on ubuntu is there a fix for it ?13:50
rkhshm1any ideas guys?13:51
rkhshm1do i need to bind the appliances before i can use the sshpass cmd?13:51
rkhshm1please help its urgent13:51
budddhaNeed help configuring samba to share printers with a windows unit13:52
Darael!elaborate | aQute13:52
ubottuaQute: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)13:52
Deathslycerhow can i stop apache2?13:53
Deathslycerthis is the problem13:53
Deathslycerhttp://pastebin.com/P1bYLdye13:53
Daraelrkhshm1: Do you have a very good reason for not using SSH keys instead?13:53
prokaHey guys13:53
hsnmckI want to start a job in upstart to set the keys to my laptop buttons, I want to do that every time I start my system, I tried to use "start on startup" but I didn't work, so I tried "start on runlevel" it worked. But I'm afraid that if I choose runlevel that my job is executed more than once, I don't really know upstart, so anyone can explain to me why it didn't work when I chosen "on startup" and what shoud I use "start on ?" to be able to start the job once13:54
prokaWhen I make a clone of the system with clonezilla, can I restore it to basically any PC?13:54
DeathslycerThe Problem is.... I still cant use Lampp13:54
Deathslycerwhen i use sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start it says this13:55
Deathslycerhttp://pastebin.com/P1bYLdye13:55
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* Deathslycer is big13:55
OerHeksDeathslycer, Sudo service apache2 stop13:55
reisioproka: yes, though there may be additional steps13:55
reisioproka: such as reconfiguring drivers for changed hardware, changing network settings, etc.13:56
jribDeathslycer: use the repositories, not whatever this thing you've installed to /opt is13:56
jrib!lamp | Deathslycer13:56
ubottuDeathslycer: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)13:56
reisioproka: copying files alone (with rsync or tar) is usually simpler and less of a waste of time than making an "image"13:56
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prokareisio: But if I make clones and resize the partitions on my computer, I will be able to restore it normally?13:56
Deathslycerthanks for the support :D13:56
compdocproka, yeah, it usually works fine on other systems13:57
prokareisio: Given that there is enough space on each of the new partitions ofc13:57
reisioproka: normally as in with the application, I couldn't say, in general yes13:57
budddhaHAve 2 printers on my Ubuntu machine and want to access them from my windows xp machine - dont know if I have the configuration correct.... help???13:58
tboathey so I have a weird problem, notify-osd is stalled open and is creating a drop shadow box on my desktop14:01
tboat12.0414:01
reisiotboat: kill it14:01
EaglemanWhat should i fill in here for horde webmail? Filesystem location for the base Horde application :14:01
tboatit does it everytime i kill then restart14:01
Eaglemanusing pear14:01
tavochello. I do have an up to date Ubuntu 12.04 with OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012. There is a problem if you want to connect with sslv2. I do want to check if a server is capable of connecting with SSLv2 Protocol. Therefore I type:  openssl s_client -connect 127.0.0.1:443  -ssl2.14:02
tavocBut openssl tells me there is no option as ssl214:02
tavocin an older openssl version it was running. F.e. in debian it is working14:02
tavocSeems like a bug in openssl or ubuntu?14:02
DaraelEagleman: Install it using the dimp1 package instead of Pear, perhaps?14:02
reisioread the instructions/comments perhaps :P14:03
DaraelEagleman: Or the imp4 package, if you want the non-dynamic one.14:03
tavocit says: unknown option -ssl2   But in the help section there is this option14:03
tavocwith ubuntu 11.10 everything was working as expected14:04
tavoccould anyone try this command ?14:04
whatev-1010i need help formatting a drive14:09
whatev-1010..getting a "read-only" error14:09
whatev-1010..can't format14:09
whatev-1010using "lubuntu 12.04"- no answer in #lubuntu14:09
reisiowhatev-1010: what command are you using to "format"?14:09
reisiowhatev-1010: probably shouldn't have said that :p14:09
whatev-1010a gui app called "Disk Utility"14:10
reisiowhy do you want to format this drive?14:10
whatev-1010why do birds chirp?14:10
whatev-1010why do people ask irrlevent questions?14:10
whatev-1010i want to control my drive.14:11
reisiowhatev-1010: good luck :p14:11
whatev-1010reisio, not from you, apparently14:11
tavoccould anyone please tell me if openssl s_client -connect 127.0.0.1:443 -ssl2 work for him/her in ubuntu 12.04. So that i know if its a general problem or just me14:11
whatev-1010why are linux geeks assholes?14:12
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reisioLjL: and for your next trick, making them leave without doing anything at all! :D14:13
chroothi, is there any news program that let me read news in ubuntu?14:13
reisiochroot: lots14:13
gvochroot thunderbird does a good job14:13
reisiochroot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_feed_aggregators#Operating_system_support14:14
Gierushi14:14
LjLchroot: typically you'd use an RSS reader fetching RSS feeds for the papers you like14:14
chrootoh, in the command line would be better!14:14
reisiochroot: fancy pants14:14
LjLchroot: "apt-cache search console rss" will give some alternatives14:15
reisiomutt probably has some support for such nonsense, too14:15
chrootoh, reisio, i know pants, but it is based on gui, can it worked on command line?14:16
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* reisio shrugs14:16
cannonballMorning all, does anybody know why oprofile was removed from the 12.04 repo?14:17
reisiomaybe it was replaced by pprofile14:17
cannonballHmmm, digging.14:17
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reisiocannonball: no actually the maintainer probably just bailed/on it14:18
reisioI don't see any license changes, so that's the simplest explanation14:18
cannonballsomeone even asked in the oprofile mailing list, answer was basically "I dunno".  Your answer seems most reasonable (and only) answer I have come across.  Thanks for the feedback.14:19
reisioif you look up who was maintaining it, that'd probably yield whatever information there is to be had14:20
reisiocannonball: ah, and it could've been killed on Debian I s'pose14:21
reisiowhich would have killed it on Ubuntu possibly14:21
reisiobut that doesn't seem to be the case :p14:22
budddhaHAve 2 printers on my Ubuntu machine and want to access them from my windows xp machine - dont know if I have the SAMBA configuration correct.... help???14:22
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chrometigerHope someone can help me,  i've installed ubuntu on a ext hd   while pluged to my main pc  "which has a nvidia card"    but I really use this on my laptop which has a Intel Mobile 4 series graphics card.   I dont have any 3d acceleration and can't use  Unity or gnome shell because of it   can anyone help ?14:23
reisiochrometiger: you'd want to reconfigure X for intel14:24
chrometigerreisio:  k,  have no clue  how14:24
reisioif you were using nvidia's driver (not nouveau), you'd want to mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure the xf86 intel driver is installed14:24
Cajun_Lan_ManHello everyone.  Could someone help me figure out why 12.04 refuses to authenticate to my AD network shares? I've never had this problem with Ubuntu before.14:25
reisiochrometiger: probably xserver-xorg-video-intel14:25
Pierrebany idea what could be wrong when "SD" quality videos have sound but "HD"/mkv have no sound?14:26
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reisioPierreb: missing aac support?14:26
chroothi, how can i read mail in command line?14:26
Pierrebreisio: how do i add that?14:26
reisiochroot: mutt :D14:27
reisioPierreb: what player?14:27
Pierrebreisio: xbmc14:27
reisioPierreb: mmm14:27
edlindehow can I find out the CPU make/model/speed, RAM of a ubuntu machine?14:27
reisioPierreb: do you have mplayer? It's useful for debugging such things14:27
edlindeis there a command that gives me these details?14:27
reisioedlinde: lshw-gtk14:27
reisioedlinde: lshw14:27
reisioedlinde: or /proc/cpuinfo & free -m14:27
bazhangedlinde, dmidecode14:27
Pierrebreisio: ill check brb14:27
reisioor that, yup14:27
bobweaveranyone know where to find upto date pdf's on where to get help with Ubuntu ?   (ubuntu forums here ask ubuntu ect ) I am about to go give a store some live cds and wanted to get more docs to give them14:28
gudjonneed help with surround sound14:28
bobweaverI have all the ubuntu advantage stuff14:28
reisiogudjon: okay...14:28
gvohow do I get a terminal window up on 12.04?14:28
edlindePierreb, that command didn't work for me14:29
edlindeill check brb14:29
edlindewas it that?14:29
fugitivecoasthi i was wondering if anyone new how to configure compiz14:29
reisiobobweaver: wkhtmltopdf + website? :)14:29
reisiofugitivecoast: sure14:29
reisiogvo: same way AFAIK, CTRL+ALT+t14:29
reisiogvo: or hit the ubuntu logo at top left and type 'terminal'14:29
edlindereisio, I just ssh into this box14:30
edlindeto run experiments14:30
JonnyRoDo I have to use Unity with Ubuntu 12.04, or can I switch after it is installed?14:30
edlindethe lshw gave me a huge list14:30
gvoreisio well I never used C-A-t14:30
edlinde:)14:30
reisioedlinde: the simplest way is to run less /proc/cpuinfo, and free -m14:30
bazhang!notunity | JonnyRo14:30
ubottuJonnyRo: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic14:30
reisioedlinde: yeah it's comprehensive14:30
reisioJonnyRo: you can switch, but depending on what you want to switch to, it might make more sense to install from different media14:31
JonnyRowow, thats awesome14:31
Pierrebreisio: seems im missing codecs, downloading them14:31
gvoreisio thanks14:31
reisioPierreb: :D14:31
JonnyRoi like the idea of unity but i just cant get onboard with the way it acts around multiple screens14:31
Pierrebreisio: woho sound in mplayer atleast, trying xbmc now14:31
txomonhi, how can I create a link for an app?14:31
JonnyRosingle screen pc's its great14:31
reisioJonnyRo: mmm, will probably improve over time14:31
reisioPierreb: well mplayer probably has its own codecs, or are you saying it wasn't working, either?14:32
JonnyRoreisio, i agree. I wonder if there is a way to prevent it from putting the unity dock on both screens14:32
reisiotxomon: like on the desktop?14:32
edlindeI am seeing 8 entries14:32
JonnyRoor putting it on the right hand side on one14:32
edlindedoes this mean I have a 8-core machine?14:32
reisioedlinde: in cpuinfo? That means the system perceives 8 cores14:32
reisioedlinde: or four core with hyperthreading, yes14:32
txomonreisio, apt:app-packet type14:32
gudjonI use my computer as a media center and i need to have my sound enabled via the hdmi in addition haveing 5.1 surround system connected to computer with 3x 3.5mm jacks.. realtec motherboard14:32
reisiotxomon: hrmm?14:32
edlindewill paste it comeplace14:32
fugitivecoastreisio: is compiz the default window manager for 12.04?14:32
edlindesomeplace14:33
bazhangedlinde, paste.ubuntu.com14:33
reisiofugitivecoast: yes14:33
reisioassuming your hardware is up to snuff, anyways14:33
reisiodunno what's used for unaccelerated14:33
reisiomutter, presumably14:33
reisiocourse that might be accelerated only, too :p don't know much about it14:34
fugitivecoastwell, my computer is a dell xps17 so getting linux mint was a hassel so i figured why not try ubuntu14:34
edlindereisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014861/14:34
edlindewondering if its got 4 cores14:34
reisiofugitivecoast: why a hassle?14:34
fugitivecoastthis install worked perfectly but I dont know if it is just using my Intel graphics or if it is using my Nvidia also14:34
reisiofugitivecoast: linux mint is based on ubuntu, they're likely going to be much the same14:35
reisiofugitivecoast: oh optimus?14:35
txomonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#From_an_apt:_link14:35
txomonthose types of link14:35
fugitivecoastreisio: yeah optimus, so i had to turn acpi off whenever i wanted to work on mint... here i have not had to do that so this seems a little easier14:35
reisiotxomon: oh apt uri14:35
edlindereisio, what do you think from the paste?14:36
Pierrebreisio: meh worked for mplayer but not so much for xbmc14:36
reisiourl* :p14:36
reisioPierreb: right mplayer has its own codecs14:36
reisioPierreb: if you observe mplayer's output it'll probably tell you what the audio format is14:36
edlindereisio, could it be that its with 8 cores and its a Intel Xeon(R) W356514:36
reisioPierreb: then you'll have a more specific thing to search for (+xbmc)14:36
b4db1thi14:37
reisioedlinde: 4, with hyperthreading = 8 http://ark.intel.com/products/39721/Intel-Xeon-Processor-W3565-%288M-Cache-3_20-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI%2914:37
reisioedlinde: depending on how you view hyperthreading, that is :D14:37
reisiob4db1t: hiyo14:37
edlindereisio, ok14:37
edlindereisio, and is that 12 GB RAM?14:37
edlindeI was told the machine had 8 GB RAM on it though14:38
ironmhello. short info: for installations of MariaDB 5.3 or 5.5 on ubuntu-server 11.10 or 12.04 in off-line mode ... http://rsync.it-infrastrukturen.org/mariadb/ubuntu/mariadb-ubuntu-local-repo.pdf14:38
ironmthank you in advance for any feedback14:38
reisioedlinde: if free -m says something around 12000 (five chars), yes14:38
reisioprobably show up as 11xxx14:38
reisioironm: we have this thing called HTML nowadays14:39
fugitivecoastreisio: when i type compiz into the terminal I get the error: Screen 0 on display ":0" already has a window manager; try usign the --replace option to replace the current window manager14:39
reisiofugitivecoast: right, or 'nohup compiz-manager > /dev/null &'14:39
reisio(AKA 'compiz-manager', but somewhat nicer)14:39
edlindereisio, so you saying its 12 GB yeah?14:39
reisioassuming Ubuntu has that still :p14:39
reisioedlinde: I don't know, you didn't show me the output14:39
reisioedlinde: if it's 11xxx it's roughly 12GB, yes14:40
edlindereisio, its in the same paste.. if you scroll below14:40
ironmwhat do you mean? ... <reisio> ironm: we have this thing called HTML nowadays14:40
reisioedlinde: what paste?14:40
biebneed help with defining "JAVA_HOME"  I have added it to the end of the "Path" line in /etc/environment  (...:/use/games:JAVA_HOME=/usr/share/java")  and also tried it as its own line in environment (JAVA_HOME="/usr/share/java"   neither seem to work, the print payment program that needs java keeps telling me JAVA_HOME is not defined!14:40
edlindeMem:         12033      11962         70          0         10      1128914:40
reisioironm: ...so sad14:40
chrometigerreisio:  i was lost    will this site help me out if i follow it ?   http://superuser.com/questions/192121/how-to-install-intel-82852-855gm-driver-on-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat14:40
edlindehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1014861/14:40
ironmreisio, are you on drugs or drunken ? *g*14:40
txomonreisio, so, any idea for those apt uris?14:41
reisiochrometiger: I doubt you'll need to go to such lengths14:41
reisiochrometiger: first I'd try simply mv'ing /etc/X11/xorg.conf elsewhere (you might want it later for the nvidia box), and making sure xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed14:42
reisiotxomon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptURL14:42
chrometigerreisio:   k  how to i make sure of that ?14:42
reisioedlinde: yup, 12GB14:43
fizk_webmin.com is down14:43
reisiofizk_: good :p14:43
fizk_reisio, why is that good14:43
reisiochrometiger: try it and if it works you know and if it doesn't work you know14:43
bazhangfizk_, webmin is not supported here14:43
reisiofizk_: security hazard14:43
edlindereisio, thanks14:43
xyzzy_Is there a way of preventing a single, one-off command from getting stored in bash's history?14:44
fizk_what do you recommend14:44
gudjonhelp with surround sound:14:44
bazhang!webmin | fizk_14:44
ubottufizk_: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.14:44
gudjoni want to have:14:44
gudjonHDMI submitting sound as usual14:44
gudjon3x 3.5mm jacks on motherboard to submit sound to home theatre system.14:44
gudjonat the same time.?14:44
FloodBot1gudjon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:44
edlindereisio, and for Ubuntu version : can I just say "uname -a"14:44
imbezolxyzzy_: unset HSTFILE14:44
edlinde?14:44
chrometigerreisio:  my xorg.conf  just says default device    it doesn't even say  nvidia14:44
bazhangfizk_, zentyal14:44
reisioxyzzy_: you can just clear the history afterwards with history -c && echo '' > ~/.bash_history14:44
bazhang!ebox > fizk_14:44
ubottufizk_, please see my private message14:44
fizk_bazhang, ok, thanks14:44
xyzzy_reisio: I don't want to clear the whole history, just exlude a single command which will contain a password14:45
reisioedlinde: for a generic idea, yes14:45
edlindeok14:45
reisioedlinde: cat /etc/*release* might be more specific14:45
* reisio shrugs14:45
reisioxyzzy_: ah, you shouldn't ever type a password in plain text (so it can be seen by eyes), history or not14:45
reisiochrometiger: not necessarily relevant :p14:45
reisiochrometiger: point is nvidia's driver (not nouveau) uses xorg.conf, but using intel you shouldn't need it (and probably further do not want it present)14:46
imbezolxyzzy_: TMPHIST="$HISTFILE" ; unset HISTFILE ; dosomething_you_want_unlogged ; export HISTFILE="$TMPHIST"14:46
bieb!JAVA_HOME14:46
gudjonneed help with surround-sound how to connect 5.1 with 3x jack plugs with out disable-ing sound on HMDI14:47
reisiogudjon: why would you have to disable sound on hdmi?14:47
gudjoni dont want to disable the sound on the HDMI14:48
chrometigerreisio:  ok i've moved it     now what,,   reboot,  and what do i do if it doesn't boot back ?14:48
reisiogudjon: so don't14:48
reisiochrometiger: it'll boot whether X works or not14:48
reisiochrometiger: did you make sure the package was installed?14:48
chrometigerhow ?14:48
gudjoni want to have both i cant manage to output sound on multible jack plugs14:49
reisiochrometiger: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel14:49
ubuntumarxciao14:49
b4db1tbye14:49
reisiogudjon: sounds like a situation for #pulseaudio14:49
chrometigerreisio:    ok newest version is installed14:49
gudjonreisio thanks i'll check it out :)14:50
reisiochrometiger: if X doesn't start use CTRL+ALT+F2 if necessary to drop to a console, you can use the package 'irssi' to IRC from outside of X, good luck14:50
dob1hi, there is a way while connecting to a public wifi network to configure ubuntu to disable all the share folders etc?14:52
fl1bbl3dob1: probably easier to raise shields (iptables)14:52
JonnyRofl1bbl3, I agree. I was originally going to propose stopping the samba service, but that could be a pain in the ass14:53
troulouliou_devhi what is the best tool to set up a planning in diagram and export it in  pdf and excell format14:53
JonnyRoat least to automate14:53
dob1fl1bbl3, welcome to user friendly, it's more simple to shutdown samba then14:53
JonnyRotroulouliou_dev, i'm a pretty big fan of inkscape14:53
troulouliou_dev+- the equivalent of microsoft project under  in windows14:53
JonnyRotroulouliou_dev, GNU project is pretty decent14:53
troulouliou_devJonnyRo, nice will take a look at it14:54
fl1bbl3dob1: well not really, and presupposed that only Samba is listening14:54
txomonty reisio14:54
Cajun_Lan_ManHello everyone.  Could someone help me figure out why 12.04 refuses to authenticate to my AD network shares? I've never had this problem with Ubuntu before.14:55
fl1bbl3dob1: you can just have a publicwifi script that automates flipping iptables to reject any inbound packet that isn't part of an existing connection14:55
reisiotroulouliou_dev: http://alternativeto.net/software/microsoft-project/?platform=linux14:55
reisiotroulouliou_dev: a lot of web-based stuff these days, too14:55
gvoHaving a problem with b43 driver.  Did apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer but the "additional drivers" menu doesn't find it.  A modprobe of b43 unknown symbol in module, log says it doesn't like b43.blacklist14:55
fl1bbl3thats flipping as in switching over, not flipping as in fricking :)14:55
chrometigerreisio:  ok  still  I dont have the ability to use gnome shell     or Unity     keep getting reverted to  gnome classic14:56
gvohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx I'm following these instructions but they don't seem to work for 12.0414:56
budddhadoes ANyone know anything about configuring samba?14:56
dob1fl1bbl3, i see your points, i can create an iptables script that reject incoming connections as you said, but it's bit a surprise that when you configure a connection on ubuntu theare are not options for this, in windows xp there are,  maybe they prefer to develop unity ....14:56
compdocbudddha, somewhat14:57
budddhaok14:57
bazhangbudddha, whats the real question14:57
troulouliou_devreisio, nice , planner looks good for my needs14:57
reisiochrometiger: that's not necessarily abnormal, I believe it assesses your hardware and chooses which based on what you've got14:57
budddhai have 2 printers on the ubuntu machine that i want to access from a win xp machine14:57
reisiotroulouliou_dev: no nonsense? Got something against nonsense?! :p14:57
budddhai can see my computer when i do discovery but not my printers14:58
budddhahow do i do this properly?14:58
compdocI dont share printers, but dont you use cups for that?14:58
budddhacups didnt work for me14:59
budddhasamba was recommended14:59
OerHeksbudddha, i would acces the printers tru http://<hostname>:631/printers/<printername> >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP14:59
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compdocIm not sure samba by itself shares printers15:00
chrometigerreisio: its like I have no drivers installed at all   even google earth says  unknown graphics card and closes15:00
troulouliou_devreisio, no pdf / excell export tough15:01
Pierrebhow do i get to "GUI" from console in ubuntu?15:01
budddhathanks guys.. will try these things and get back if i have probs15:02
gvoPierreb how did you get to console in the first place?15:02
Brustoski-FanAny idea's on how to enable rgba window transparency15:02
Pierrebgvo: it booted into it15:02
gvoPierreb What did you install from?15:03
gvoVersion/level, etc.15:03
Pierrebgvo: regular iso from ubuntu15:03
Pierrebcurrent lts15:03
gvoIt should have gone into the gui automatically.15:03
Pierrebi updated the graphic drivers...15:03
gvoDid you attempt the live cd first?15:03
gvoPierreb: did it work in gui mode before you updated the graphic drivers?15:04
Pierrebgvo: the installation booted into gui before but i updated the nvidia drivers and now it kinda wont boot into gui15:04
Pierrebjust cli15:04
gvoPierreb: edit the .xsession-errors file15:05
gvoPierreb: You may be able to see a meaningful error.15:05
gvoPierreb: also try dmesg | less and page through to see if there are any errors.15:06
Pierrebgvo: kk ill check that15:06
ubuntumarxlist15:06
SKullB0xhi, what is the root directory of nginx for public access. /usr/share/nginx/www/ works find locally. but i have port farwarded for remote access n i get 404 status15:08
ikoniaSKullB0x: the directory doesn't change15:08
SKullB0xthe response headers show the nginx/1.0.5 as server15:08
Pierrebgvo: found it it says the kernel module have version 295.45 and im running 295.5315:09
Pierrebso it stopped15:09
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SKullB0xikonia: but i can't access my website remotely :(.  it works locally thou15:09
gvoPierreb: Interesting.15:09
icerootItalSpliff: stop it15:09
ikoniaItalSpliff: please don't spam15:09
ikoniaSKullB0x: yes, that's most likley your port forwarding setup wrong, or your web server not set to listen on the right address15:09
DJonesklined already15:09
spillerei've installed ubuntu virtual machine on a ubuntu host. I have two IPs, i set the same ip configuration from the host on the guest, just changing the ip address, any idea on other things i have to change to make it work?15:09
RowleyHey guys and girls.  Anyone in here technically minded on Wifi problems?15:10
reisiospillere: mv /etc/udev/rules.d/*persistent* stuff15:10
ikoniaRowley: just ask your real question15:10
rasalhaguehello everyone15:10
SKullB0xikonia the server is listening. it says nginx/1.0.5 in the response headers but the status is 404!15:10
reisiospillere: unless it wasn't migrated, in which case don't :p15:10
Cajun_Lan_ManHello everyone.  Could someone help me figure out why 12.04 refuses to authenticate to my AD network shares? I've never had this problem with Ubuntu before.15:11
ikoniaSKullB0x: ok, so look at the nginx log see if it gets the hit and what the error is15:11
amelia_Hej -- on a machine running 11.10, do i want to do the update manager route to 12.04 or do a fresh install from LiveUSB? Pros/Cons of each?15:11
ikoniaSKullB0x: it's probably not set to listen on the public address, so when it gets headers from the public address doesn't know what to do with them15:12
ikoniaamelia_: totally your call15:12
RowleyOk looked through a tonne of info still no answer. I have a TP-Link 300 mbps wireless PCI adapter. It wold seem that it makes 12.04 freeze whenever it is turned on.  From study people say it needs Atheros drivers and it indeed picks up these in the install. Is there anyhting else I could try.15:12
OerHeksamelia_, download the iso, put it on usb and do release upgrade. if anything goes wrong, you have an usb to solve problems15:12
ikoniaRowley: it makes your whole machine physically lock up ?15:13
amelia_OerHeks: release upgrade? And do you mean just go the "Update Manager" route and have the USB just in case?15:13
RowleyYes it does15:13
spillerereisio; what you mean?15:13
OerHeksamelia_, yes, this is the safest way to do.15:13
ikoniaRowley: does the mouse still move ?15:13
reisiospillere: nothing, did you have a problem?15:13
amelia_Thought so, thanks - although I prefer the fresh install, I've heard upgrading can cause issues15:14
SKullB0xikonia: how do i make nginx serve public address like it would do locally15:14
RowleyYes I believe the mouse still moves.15:14
ikoniaSKullB0x: it depends on your set,15:14
ikoniaRowley: can you confirm ?15:14
spillerereisio i have 70-persistent-net.rules, do i move it where?15:14
Cajun_Lan_Manamelia_: Clean installs are always more likely to be problem free.  One thing you may want to consider is how much customization you've put into the system.  Upgrades will carry over a lot of that customatization, and save you the hassle of having to do it all over again.15:14
ikoniaSKullB0x: what do the logs say for the hits15:14
RowleyYes I can confirm that the mouse still moves.15:14
fizk_bazhang, I installed Zentyal, but I'm unable to add/remove local users15:14
ikoniaRowley: ok, so the machine isn't hard locking then, good15:14
reisiospillere: nowhere, though you had migrated the install to the guest system, but you did a fresh install didn't you15:15
ikoniaRowley: so what happenes if you click on an icon, say launch an application like a terminal15:15
spillerereisio: yes i have never user a VM on my server before15:15
spillereso it's the first time15:15
amelia_Cajun_Lan_Man: that was my thinking, thanks15:15
RowleyWell it does not usually let me get that far. I litrally have 10 to 30 seconds on connection time15:15
fizk_bazhang, I thought the Users and Groups module would have this feature, but it only has the ability to change the ldap user mode15:15
spillerereisio: do i need to change things on the host or the guest?15:15
RowleyWith Ethernet lead in however it is fine, also I updated fully using an Ethernet lead, tried a full re-install with wifi off also.15:16
Cajun_Lan_Manamelia_: If you do try the upgrade, just make sure your data is backed up, and have the USB/CD to do a clean install if it goes wonky on you.15:17
ikoniaRowley: the connection being there/not there shouldn't change if you can open an application or not15:17
ikoniaRowley: what happens when you try to launch an application, such as a terminal15:17
amelia_yup, tack :)15:17
RowleyAs soon as wifi is turned on all I have functioning is the mouse so I cannot use terminal or any application, however with wifi off I can use Ubuntu completely fine with no problems what so ever.15:18
Molfarhi there. In /etc/rc.local I have put a command (cd /home/ubuntu/keybow && git pull) &>/home/ubuntu/git.log but after reboot I see empty file /home/ubuntu/git.log, but I expect it to have git's output. what is that?15:18
Molfargenerally, I need to update git repository at system startup15:19
OsakasaHi, i'm trying to install wine1.5 but get this error (2 lines) E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) and second line E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?15:19
ikoniaRowley: what happens when you try to launch an application such as a terminal15:19
MolfarOsakasa: try sudo15:19
Osakasayep, sudo apt-get install wine1.515:19
spillerereisio: do i need to add another SUBSYSTEM then on host?15:19
MolfarOsakasa: or close synaptic15:19
RowleyIt does nothing. It does not seem to register the fact I clicked on anything.15:20
reisiospillere: to accomplish what?15:20
fizk_ah, module wasn't enabled15:20
spillerereisio: on my VM guest, i can't access the internet15:20
Osakasaworked, thanks ☺15:20
reisiospillere: modprobe e100015:20
ikoniaRowley: ok, so when you click the icon to launch something, there is nothing to signify it's actually taken the click15:20
RowleyThat is correct15:20
spillerereisio: what does it do?15:21
reisiospillere: enables the network driver :p15:21
ikoniaRowley: as a test can you please open a terminal, make sure it has focus, then turn on wifi, when the machine starts being a problem, see if you can still type in the terminal15:21
reisiospillere: assuming the default, lspci | grep -i net would tell you for sure which is being provided15:21
Rowleyright ok will do15:21
spillerereisio: ifconfig give's me ip's and everuthing15:22
reisiospillere: check net settings in vbox, should be set to NAT by default15:22
spillereI set as bridge15:22
reisiospillere: why'd you do that15:23
spillerereisio: idk, VMs at my work are like this, let me try NAT15:23
Cerrdorwhich package has dig, host etc..?15:23
reisioCerrdor: apt-file could tell you15:24
imbezolCerrdor: try bind9utils15:24
DerpadongIsnt MATE like a clone of GNOME2 but more updated?15:25
imbezolCerrdor: host is bind9-host on my machine15:25
reisioDerpadong: it's a clone, anyways15:25
reisioDerpadong: and by clone I mean fork15:25
Cerrdorbut I need a dig15:25
reisioand by fork I mean they ran s/gnome/mate/15:25
DerpadongOh ok15:25
reisioCerrdor: ...15:26
spillerereisio: anyway as NAT it doesnt work, maybe the IP's i'm using arent right15:26
spillerehow to set DHCP back on?15:26
reisioshould probably talk to #vbox, then15:26
Cerrdorreisio, -bash: apt-file: command not found15:26
spillereill do15:26
reisiospillere: what's the guest going to be for, exactly?15:26
fizk_nice, I saved changes on Ebox and now my server is unresponsive15:26
reisioCerrdor: install it15:26
chrometigerreisio: ok   Unity works now  not well but works,   gnomeshell and google earth does not,  I still dont know whats going on ?15:26
spillerereisio: a python dev machine15:26
reisiofizk_: and that's why you don't use webUIs to administer servers15:26
imbezolreisio Cerrdor: you can just do dpkg -S /path/to/file15:27
fizk_reisio, are you kidding me, I've been using webmin just fine for a long time15:27
reisiochrometiger: I doubt googleearth is related15:27
reisiochrometiger: gnome shell I don't know, it might require accel15:27
* reisio shrugs15:27
reisiospillere: can't you do that on your Ubuntu... host?15:27
Cerrdorimbezol, the file isnt installed yet15:27
reisioimbezol: ^15:27
spillerereisio: yes but i want to set on a guest15:28
reisiofizk_: what does my kidding you or not have to do with you having used webmin for a long time15:28
spilleremaybe i install ubuntu graphic then15:28
reisiospillere: but why :p15:28
spillerereisio: coz i want to have a VM for some other things that i can screw up15:29
spillere:)15:29
reisiokay :p15:29
reisiospillere: not sure why you need more than DHCP in that case15:29
spillerei didnt install DHCP15:29
spillerecoz i'm installling on a ded server, which dont have DHCP i guess15:30
reisiommm, unlikely, but15:30
* reisio shrugs15:30
spillereill reinatall and try to set it with DHCP then15:30
reisiospillere: you don't have to reinstall :/15:31
spillerehow do I set DHCP?15:31
spillereit's only terminal15:31
reisiojust undoing whatever you did in your attempt to use a static IP should suffice15:32
spillerei did static when istalling15:32
spillere:)15:32
reisiosilly installers15:33
spillere;)15:33
reisiohttps://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dhcp.html15:33
chrootreisio: i found that if i want to use mutt, i have to install postfix, but i don't want to install a mail server.15:34
reisioactually that's probably the wrong page15:34
reisiochroot: no you don't have to15:34
reisiospillere: reverse of this, probs :p http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html15:35
chrootreisio: i just want to use mutt instead of thunderbird, is it easy?15:35
reisiochroot: I'd say so, yes15:36
Ping-Winhello room.15:36
msmi added a freenode IRC account, and empathy is won't let me add an actual contact15:36
msmits greyed out15:36
msmwhat am I missing here?15:36
reisioPing-Win: hi15:37
reisiomsm: contact?15:37
Ping-Wini'm having an issue with software updates15:37
reisioand what issue is that?15:37
spillerereisio: ty15:37
msmreisio: the empathy add contact window comes up15:38
msmbut i can't add a contact15:38
msmits greyed out when I go to pick what account to add under15:38
msmthe freenode server is greyed out15:38
msmim acutally connected and people can talk to me15:38
reisiowhat do you mean a contact?15:38
MonkeyDust!enter| msm15:38
ubottumsm: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!15:38
reisioirc doesn't have contacts15:39
reisioit only has servers and channels15:39
vmiheerCan i use the makefile provided by deb package to build extention of the package?15:39
icerootis there a way to disable the menu in the top-panel and have it instead in the program itself again?15:39
msmreisio: hmm, ok15:39
reisioiceroot: yup15:39
MonkeyDusticeroot  disable or delete globalmenu15:39
Ping-Wini installed ubuntu 12.04 on a dell studio 1735. there are two updates under the distribution updates that just stay there forever15:39
CerrdorSo I have bind9utils and netutils installed and still no dig15:40
Cerrdorwtf?15:40
reisioCerrdor: did you use apt-file?15:40
Ping-Winone is a hangul engine for ibus15:40
ikoniaCerrdor: dig is not a bind9 util15:40
icerootreisio: MonkeyDust thx15:40
VoolooCerrdor: dnsutils15:40
icerootvmiheer: why not using dpkg to rebuild the package itself?15:40
icerootvmiheer: so you are using the souce-package to build a new deb-file15:40
Ping-Winthe other is a korean system monitor for ibus15:41
xentrepreneurwhere are the current sessions stored in the file system ?15:41
Ping-Winhow do i get rid of those?15:41
vmiheerironm: No actually llvm package has provided /usr/lib/llvm-2.9/build/ directory15:41
xentrepreneurhow can i reopen them?15:41
CerrdorVooloo, thats the one thanks so much15:42
iLogicalHow do I upgrade to the lastest stable release of Ubuntu from 10.04 LTS ?15:42
reisioCerrdor: would've had it ages ago if you'd only used apt-file15:42
vmiheerironm: I want to write the llvm pass ( actually a shared library using llvm)15:42
Cerrdorreisio, apt-file search returned about 9 kabillion results for dig15:42
icerootiLogical: from 10.04?15:42
Cerrdorit was including digital, *dig*15:42
iLogicalyes15:42
reisioiLogical: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades15:43
xentrepreneurhello friends, I have a session running on a remote desktop15:43
vmiheerironm: I used llvm-config-2.9 --cxxflags --libs to build binaries15:43
icerootiLogical: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to have the latest version for 10.0415:43
reisioCerrdor: 's'what less/grep are for15:43
xentrepreneurhow can i reopen that from my computer15:43
amh345is there an updated package for upgrading apache2 2.2 to apache 2.4?   i tried running apt-get upgrade apache2 but no dice.15:43
MonkeyDust!upgrade| iLogical15:43
ubottuiLogical: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade15:43
CerrdorOhhh you assumed I knew how to use those commands as well :P15:43
icerootiLogical: ah you want 12.04 and not the latest stable release of 10.0415:43
weetabeexhello all15:43
ackbahrHi! While installing Precise Pangolin I played around with the accessibility settings and now I 'm stuck with the huge mouse cursor for visually impaired users... Can someone walk me through getting it to be of normal size?15:43
reisioxentrepreneur: assuming you enabled VNC, by using vncviewer15:43
xentrepreneurreisio: i using xrdp15:44
iLogicalyes15:44
reisioCerrdor: no, I assumed you might state a problem if you encountered one, as you already had at least once, instead of ignoring the problem and just repeating your question over and over like a parrot :p15:44
reisioxentrepreneur: then it'd be rdesktop or freerdp15:44
Cerrdorreisio, so what did we learn today?15:44
reisioCerrdor: I haven't learned anything all day15:45
Cerrdorreisio, man that stinks15:45
reisioyou learned that ignoring useful advice sometimes still gets you someone spoon feeding you a solution :p15:45
reisioVooloo: gj15:45
Cerrdorfor your info reisio I did not IGNORE it15:46
reisioor maybe you already knew that :p15:46
reisioCerrdor: course you did :p15:46
CerrdorI simply found it more wasteful than I needed atm15:46
reisioyou simply pressed the up arrow and enter instead15:46
reisioI Get it15:46
Cerrdoryou certainly do15:46
Cerrdoranything else I can help you with?15:46
reisioinorite15:46
Cerrdorumadbro15:46
reisioCerrdor: I had a sandwich but am still hungry :/15:47
imbezolCerrdor: dnsutils15:47
reisioCerrdor: dnsutils15:47
Cerrdorimbezol, yeah I got it installed15:47
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iLogicalMy update manager show only to upgrade to 10.10, i want the lastest stable version 12.0415:49
iLogicalshows*15:49
chrootcan anoybody show me how to send and get mail in command line?15:50
iLogicaldo I have to upgrade to 10.10, in order to upgrade to 12.04?15:50
DJonesiLogical: 10.04 doesn't offer to update to 12.04 until the release of 12.04.1 which is due in june15:50
xentrepreneurreisio: it starts new session for the same user.15:51
DJonesiLogical: Its to give any issues time to be settled before people using the LTS version are upgraded to the next LTS version15:51
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xentrepreneuri cant gte hold of the existing session15:51
jribiLogical: if you want to upgrade now, you must pass -d to update-manager (see 12.04 release notes)15:51
zanberdois there a way for me to initiate some form of chat session with a desktop user while ssh'd into their host?  I'm on the command line and they are in a gnome session and I want something like an IM session...15:51
iLogicaljrib, how?15:51
jribiLogical: i just said how15:52
gvochroot install mailutils15:52
jrib!notes | iLogical15:52
ubottuiLogical: Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) release notes can be found here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/12.0415:52
gvochroot then man mail15:52
chrootok, thanks gvo15:53
iLogicaljrib, I started update-manager with -d  but it only show to upgrade to 10.10 avaiable15:53
iLogicalshows*15:53
jribiLogical: see the release notes for complete details on what steps you must take15:54
iLogicalok15:54
Ping-Winif anyone is available, can someone help out a linux newbie, and tell me how to delete software updates that appear in the update manager but will not install?15:55
jribPing-Win: be more specific15:55
Syllus75<Syllus75> I have setup a RAID 1 implementation using 2 active drives (sda & sdb) and 1 spare (sdc). To test it out, I have tried removing the sda. I get the grub menu and after that a black screen. I tried the same thing with removing sdb, I get the grub menu, and then it also stays on a black screen. Is this what I should be expecting?15:55
compdocPing-Win, which?15:55
xentrepreneursomebody look into my problem please15:55
Ping-Winthere are 2 distrubution updates for something called Ibus15:56
jrib!helpme | xentrepreneur15:56
ubottuxentrepreneur: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude15:56
iLogicaljrib, many thanks ;)15:56
Ping-Winthey stay in my update manager cnstantly and will not install15:56
xentrepreneur!attitude15:56
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines15:56
xentrepreneur!repeat15:57
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/15:57
icerootapt-get changelog lm-sensors is saying no changelog is avaibale i should try launchpad but "apt-get source lm-sensors" is showing me a changelog file. why is apt-get changelog not giving any results?15:57
kelvinellahi how come i dont have spell check in ff anymore?15:57
EbubekirKhi all15:57
jribiceroot: I don't know, but pretty sure that tool uses changelogs.ubuntu.com15:58
Cajun_Lan_ManHello everyone.  Could someone help me figure out why 12.04 refuses to authenticate to my AD network shares? I've never had this problem with Ubuntu before.15:58
icerootjrib: ah ok i thought its using the source-package directly and not another website15:58
compdocCajun_Lan_Man, are you logged in with the same username and password?15:58
portis0hey , is it possible for a boot sector virus that was installed via windows to allow access to ubuntu?15:59
icerootjrib: you are right15:59
L3topkelvinella: check edit/preferences/advanced/general "Check my spelling as I type"16:00
icerootjrib: Fehl Änderungsprotokoll für lm-sensors (http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/l/lm-sensors/lm-sensors_3.3.1-2ubuntu1/changelog) 404  Not Found16:00
Cajun_Lan_Mancompdoc: regardless of how I'm logged in, it prompts me for a username, password, and domain. In previous versions, I just filled out the required info, told it to remember me until I log out, and everything was fine.  However now, in 12.04, it prompts me for the info, I enter it, but it just repeats the prompt, as if I had entered the incorrect information.16:00
L3topwhat is your issue xentrepreneur?16:01
icerootjrib: the bug is the version of the package, someone forgot 1_3.3.* they used 3.3.* without the 1_16:02
peterrooneyportis0: can't see why not.  ext3/4 filesystem drivers exist for windows.16:02
jribiceroot: ah16:02
icerootjrib: i will report a bug against lm_sensors so they can fix the changelog because there is the bug, that file is creating the package-version16:03
xentrepreneurL3top: i accesed my computer using xrdp remotely and now am back on my computer and want to get hold of the previous session which is still active16:03
xentrepreneurwhen i try to login, it opens a new session of same user16:03
imbezolxentrepreneur: can you use that new session to xrdp to the existing one again? close up your stuff, save what you need, and close it off?16:04
Ezimhi everyone. will ubuntu update libreoffice 3.4.5 under 12.04 should a user use ppa or download from there site?16:04
portis0peterrooney - so it is feasible that a dual booting linux/windows laptop with a virus on windows could allow access to the linux machine when booted? In this case linux was installed from windows.16:04
icerootxentrepreneur: then the session was killed16:04
xentrepreneuri can acces the session from the remote desktop16:04
icerootxentrepreneur: xrdp will always first look if there is another open session (not the session directly on the real screen because that session is different)16:04
L3topxentrepreneur: I do not know of a way to do that. Sorry.16:04
icerootxentrepreneur: the real session on the machine directly is something different then an xrdp session16:05
portis0peterrooney - i sort of assumed a virus that infected ubuntu and allowed remote trojan access was not out there really16:05
Thor^^Hi, I'm trying to set up OpenVPN with network bridging (following: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN) question that I got now tho is, which net should I bridge? I got 2 nics, one internal and one external16:05
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xentrepreneuriceroot: there's no workarpound to do that?16:05
lanceioI removed gnome from ubuntu, I use fluxbox now, I removed the sound, so to speak, I removed the alsa, I use oss now, but im irritaed with this oss thingy, so I want to go back to alsa, and I thought while i am at it, i'll get xubuntu too, can you tell me what are the packages i'll need? a list of them will be nice.16:05
icerootxentrepreneur: that is bot a bug, that is a feature16:06
icerootxentrepreneur: vnc is want to use the REAL session also from remote16:06
icerootis what you have to use16:06
xentrepreneurbut vnc is very slow for some reason,iceroot16:07
xentrepreneuratleast for me16:07
icerootxentrepreneur: yes16:07
icerootxentrepreneur: but there is no other way16:07
Vinnie_winhow do I access a Windows network share from Ubuntu running in a VirtualBox ?16:07
icerootxentrepreneur: vnc is rendering the session on the server and you see the image, rdp is rendering the image on the client and is very fast16:07
icerootxentrepreneur: you cant use a normal session with rdp16:07
shaneohey guys ive been using Ubuntu Acccomplishments system and when it syncs the .trophys they are auto moved to the trash bin is this normal or is there something wrong16:08
ironmHi. What do you mean? ... <vmiheer> ironm: No actually llvm package has provided /usr/lib/llvm-2.9/build/ directory16:08
xentrepreneuriceroot: if i rd from my computer to my own computer I should be able to access that session right? even then it opens a new session16:09
icerootxentrepreneur: ?16:09
iceroot!freenx | xentrepreneur16:09
ubottuxentrepreneur: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX16:09
beastyevening all16:09
icerootxentrepreneur: hav a look there what rdp is16:09
Vinnie_winhow do I access a Windows network share from Ubuntu running in a VirtualBox ?16:09
OerHeksxentrepreneur, what makes you think the old session is still running?16:09
beastysmall question ... i just updated to 12.04 and my mouse is only moving up and down ... anyone had this error ? (it's a logitech mx5500 set)16:10
imbezolbeasty: do any of the clickable buttons move it side to side?16:10
xentrepreneurOerHeks: I am not sure but if i rd from the same computer again, the session will still be there. I had tried this before16:11
Vinnie_winhow do I access a Windows network share from Ubuntu running in a VirtualBox ?16:11
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beastyimbezol: no16:12
icerootVinnie_win: is windows the vm-host?16:13
Vinnie_winiceroot: Yes16:13
icerootVinnie_win: then you can use the virtualbox share directory (its a feature from vbox) see #vbox16:14
Vinnie_winiceroot: Ah okay, that would be fine. Thanks16:14
Vinnie_winhttps://github.com/vinniefalco/LuaBridgeDemo/downloads Can you test my Linux demo and see if it works for you on Ubuntu?16:14
pausbhi all16:15
dagerikVinnie_win: Provide the source you donk.16:15
pausbis there a bug that ubuntu changes language to chinese?16:15
Vinnie_windagerik: Its there, of course - I want to see if the executable will work16:15
Vinnie_windagerik: Will my executable run on a variety of systems?16:16
icerootVinnie_win: that is offtopic here16:16
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Vinnie_winiceroot: Where's a good place to ask?16:17
icerootVinnie_win: #ubuntu-offtopic16:19
Vinnie_winokies thanks16:19
* gepatino is away: out for lunch16:20
amh345my ssh connection is timing out after 5 mins of inactivity.  where can i configure that?16:20
icerootamh345: imo on the server in /etc/ssh/sshd_config16:20
amh345iceroot: i think it was configured somewhere else.  a profile or something16:21
Pumpkin-you can configure it in multiple places16:21
Pumpkin-look for keepalive stuff in "man ssh_config"16:22
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Pumpkin-you can set that either globally for all users in /etc/ssh/ssh_config, or for just you in .ssh/config or at a specific command line "-o STUFF".16:22
feralhostname16:22
xentrepreneurOerHeks: system monitor is still running the programs that were initiated from rd16:22
designbybeckHave any of you used Remastersys!?16:23
feralhy all16:23
designbybeckI'm trying to create my own distro using remastersys, so far I have a usb the boots and I have all my software I want on there16:23
thauriswulfaHELP: There's no sound on my netbook, and as I am checking on pulse audio volume control there's no sound output device listed there except dummy outputit was all working before, I restarted too but no change need help16:24
stuenghi, which ubuntu do I need for this CPU - VIA C3™/ VIA Eden™ EBGA processor16:26
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OerHeksstueng, ubuntu 32 bit16:27
oCean!afk > samkottler|afk16:27
ubottusamkottler|afk, please see my private message16:27
amh345bashrc is where it's set16:28
amh345TIMEOUT=x16:28
stuengoerheks I tried 32bit server CD and it told me during boot that I need to find the right version for my CPU16:28
dorsjust to clarify thauriswulfa, not that i could help much, but what 'before' means? before what? upgrade? then of what? give more data...16:29
ikoniastueng: don't use server16:30
stuengikonia: I dont want a gui... I cant boot the mini.iso either.. so now what?16:30
ikoniastueng: it's probably too old now to contain the full instruction set that the kernel wants16:30
ikoniastueng: remove the gui, just see if the CD will boot16:30
stuengk16:30
stuengbusy writing the alternate iso atm16:31
mbuckowhen i switch tty using ctrl+alt+F6 can i then load up the UI and have two users running it? if so how?16:31
stuengmbucko: startx -- :116:34
chuCool, so you can have two X server connections up?16:35
chu(or more)16:36
wawowechu: yes16:37
stuengikonia error says please use a kernel appropiate for your cpu... so I should get an old verstion of ubuntu ?16:37
chuVery cool.16:37
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EclifeMy keyboard and touchpad are frozen on start up... can anyone help?16:38
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ikoniastueng: depends what it wants16:38
ikoniastueng: it used to be a common issue with VM's booting the ubuntu CD's as they didn't emmulate a CPU with certain instructions/components16:38
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ikoniastueng: that dependency has been in place for a good few years now, so you may be out of luck16:39
samkottleroCean: sorry about that :)16:39
stuengikonia: I would have thought linux would be better suited to run on an older CPU than any other os :(16:39
ikoniastueng: "linux is" a lot of distributions aren't16:39
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stuengeugh I dont wanna run another dist16:40
mbuckostueng, but you can only have 1 GUI at a time right?16:41
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Eclifehey guys... is this were I can get some help with Ubuntu?16:42
stuengmbuck, you mean desktop environment ?16:42
stuengeclife, yes16:42
Cajun_Lan_ManHello All. Could someone help me figure out why 12.04 wont authenticate to my AD network shares? I didn't have this problem before 12.04, and I can't figure out what changed, much less how to fix it.16:42
stuengcajun_lan_man: what errors do you get when you type mount -a ?16:43
EclifeStueng: my touchpad and keyboard are frozen every on start up16:43
wawoweEclife: i would disable the login manager16:44
stuengwithout a keyboard :P16:44
wawoweEclife: if you want to do that boot up the install cd or in single user mode16:44
stuengdoes desktop come with ssh server by default ?16:44
wawoweEclife: mount, chroot, and apt-get remove16:45
jribstueng: not installed16:45
wawowestueng: nope16:45
EclifeStueng: I've tried using automatic login to skip lightdm, but it doesn't work16:45
wawoweEclife: autologin still uses lightdm16:45
Cajun_Lan_Manstueng, Thanks for the help. First let me apologize for being Linux noob. Do you want me to literally type that in the terminal? The issue is happening when I browse to the share in the gui. It prompts me for username/password/domain. For some reason it reject what I type in, despite it being the correct information.16:45
Eclifewawowe: I'll try mount, chroot, and apt-get16:46
wawoweEclife: k, you'll need a root terminal16:47
Cajun_Lan_Manstueng, in older versions of Ubuntu, it would accept the credentials, and prompt me for how long I wanted to be authenticated for.16:47
Eclifewawowe: can you send me the script to do that... I'm not a pro using the terminal16:47
wawoweEclife: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev; mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc16:47
wawoweEclife: chroot /mnt16:48
wawoweEclife: apt-get remove lightdm16:48
wawoweEclife: exit16:48
wawoweEclife: umount /mnt/{proc,dev}; umount /mnt16:48
Eclifewowowe: can I run just" apt-get remove lightdm?16:48
wawoweEclife: reboot16:48
wawoweEclife: no16:49
hsnmcki'm using using ubuntu 12.04, i'm not able to zoom in or out, is this because of unity?16:49
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wawoweEclife: run all those from mount to reboot and it'll work16:49
EclifeWowowe: thanks, ill try it16:50
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blackcatnekonegrOk, I tried formating a usb flash drive, and I must have really broke it, cause all I get now when I plug it in is a "AX216 FLASH READER" mensage and that's it. Last time I buy one that's not from the two most popular brands.16:53
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: how did you format it?16:53
blackcatnekonegrwawowe, Gparted, but the device had been me giving error messages since day one, so I guess I will just have to buy one thats not from that brand.16:55
thauriswulfadors: not after upgrade I mean last time I played any audio-video media, now when I see16:55
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: make sure you put the filesystem on sda1 not sda16:56
duckxxhi everyone.. im starting up a skill share space in nyc and wanted to use some of the space time to be able to hold ubuntu  meetups to educated others in it.. if you want to support this endevour, check this out: http://www.luckyant.com/nyc/lower-east-side/index.html --- its not just classes i want to do but also open source meetups for other new technologies that doesnt see the light. if money is an issue, a simple facebook shout16:56
duckxxout would be appreciated. thx! sorry for the promo.16:56
FloodBot1duckxx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:56
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shurikrulikhi, who had trouble with webcamera image fliping on notebook asus pls give the solv me ...16:57
dorsthats strange thauriswulfa, usually if sound is working it keeps so,  maybe check basic things, cables, plugs, sound volume, is it flagged as 'mute' somewhere, things like that16:58
escottshurikrulik, you need to LD_PRELOAD16:58
escottshurikrulik, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=92cd13b8bb99b72b7e6604817d957f0d&t=146079016:58
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blackcatnekonegrwawowe, ubuntu cannot read the device anymore besides the "AX216 FLASH READER" thing, so is a bit late for that, to sum up the device was broken from day one, usb flash drives have no guaranty, every kind of format has ended bad, I even did a low lever format then created a Master boot record, but is useless, not not even gparted sees the device anymore. Sometimes one gets faulty hardware I guess.17:01
mbuckowhere do programs get installed in linux? is it /bin or /usr?17:01
escottmbucko, depends on if it is needed for boot17:01
ceti331_Can linux do multiple remote desktop connections (x servers) out of the box17:01
ceti331_across a network17:01
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: try fdisk17:02
ceti331_just like shing into a linux box17:02
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb17:02
mbuckoescott, just a normal app17:02
blackcatnekonegrmbucko, usually bin, but linux programs use a lot of libraries so is hard to tell where all the files are, unless that distro uses a kind of "mac install"17:02
escottceti331_, yes, but you have the role of client and server reversed. the server is the one with the display17:02
escottmbucko, then it is probably in /usr/bin17:02
blackcatnekonegrblackcatnekonegr, isn't fdisk a windows program?17:02
mbuckoescott, what about application files?17:02
blackcatnekonegroops17:03
escottmbucko, /usr/share for many17:03
blackcatnekonegrwawowe, isn't fdisk a windows program?, and what if I end formatting one of my hard disks using that command?17:04
ceti331_so lets say i have big desktop machine, and laptop; i would open an x-server on the Laptop, then ssh into the desktop to ask it to connect to the laptop x-server ? .. then the laptop can run native desktop programs on the desktop machine ?17:04
escottceti331_, yes17:04
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: gnu has it's own fdisk17:04
mbuckoblackcatnekonegr, how does mac install differ?17:04
ceti331_Can you get such an x-server under OSX17:04
escottceti331_, yes17:04
ceti331_this is getting bette r17:05
ceti331_r17:05
ceti331_:)17:05
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: you should be able to tell that your looking at the right drive by the size etc17:05
blackcatnekonegrceti331_, you want to use a kind of remote control or something like that?17:05
ceti331_yes17:05
phraktal77flumotion package is broken on precise17:05
escottceti331_, i believe there is an x server for mac on the install cd17:05
phraktal77it starts, but once you start a worker, it bugs out17:05
escottceti331_, the mac install cd that is17:05
ceti331_this might get convoluted..17:05
bjorkintoshi just bought a new pair of usb headphones with a mic.17:06
ceti331_specifically, i would like to use multiple screens  on the desktop, but use the laptop as an additional screen and wireless keyboard & mouse17:06
bjorkintosh12.04 recognizes it, but there's no sound coming out of it at all.17:06
bjorkintoshyes, it's plugged in and turned on.17:06
ceti331_with synergy , plus xserver on the mac..17:06
ceti331_?17:06
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bjorkintoshthe sound's instead coming out of the laptop's speaker.17:06
escottceti331_, that wont work the applications on the laptop will be distinct from the desktop. they run in a different user session with a different window manager, and cannot be migrated from one to the other17:07
gentle_peacefuli have some problem with my ATI 6470.17:07
blackcatnekonegrwawowe, how I use this fdisk?17:07
ceti331_oh17:07
bjorkintoshwhy isn't it sending sound through the usb?17:07
ceti331_ok17:07
gentle_peacefulAnyone can help me17:07
gentle_peacefulthanks17:07
wawowebjorkintosh: first type fdisk /dev/sdb, then it p17:07
blackcatnekonegrceti331_, there are programs on linux to do remote control17:07
ceti331_escott: have you seen "air-display"17:07
escottceti331_, no17:08
wawowebjorkintosh: should show you the partition layout and size of the disk17:08
ceti331_"air-display" from mac to iPad is the most solid experience along these lines i've seen17:08
ceti331_but i would like it in reverse17:08
bjorkintoshwawowe, for sound?17:08
bjorkintoshyou must be talking to blackcatnekonegr17:08
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: first type fdisk /dev/sdb, then it p17:08
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: should show you the partition layout and size of the disk17:08
wawowebjorkintosh: wrong one sry17:08
wawowebjorkintosh: check alsamixer to see if anything is muted17:09
ceti331_actually "AirDisplay" will do this from PC to Mac already17:09
ceti331_their is a Mac server for a PC client.17:09
ceti331_they've already said on their forums they wont do linux :(17:09
blackcatnekonegrwawowe, I used that command and only said ms dos mode is obsolete,17:10
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: didn't open the fdisk shell?17:10
ceti331_I've looked into other combinations - like using a small linux machine driving screen with a Synergy client, for additional screenspace form the Mac, but using Linux tools to edit content on the Mac.17:11
escottblackcatnekonegr, you can use the "parted" tool which understands gpt17:11
Piciwawowe: is blackcatnekonegr currently running linux?17:11
blackcatnekonegrwawowe, yes but is only text mode, and I see no info whatesoever of the hard disks17:11
blackcatnekonegrescott, gparted did not work17:11
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: type "p"17:11
Piciwawowe: nevermind17:11
escottceti331_, you can run an xnest server in the background and then run your actual displays off the xnest but thats slower and more complicated17:11
wawowePici: yes17:11
* gepatino is back (gone 00:51:54)17:11
bjorkintoshdidn't make a difference wawowe.17:12
ceti331_there's many dimensions to this17:12
blackcatnekonegrwawowe, ; I am not gonna format my hard disk by mistake for a stupid faulty usb flash drive17:12
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: you will get a good look at it before you change things. no accidents17:12
ceti331_I have.. a fast Window PC: core i7, but 2 screens; a slower Linux PC, but 4 screens; a mac, can only drive one screen; a 'spare' nettop PC, windows & linux17:13
donvito|2how to install open ssh ?17:13
blackcatnekonegrwawowe, right now fdisk could be accesing my hard disk it says nothing whatsoever of what drive is accessing17:13
wawowebjorkintosh: do you have multiple soundcards? run aplay -l to show them17:13
ceti331_perhaps i should just do one screen per device and synergy between them17:13
ceti331_and put my content on a NAS box17:13
bjorkintoshi think i do. the usb device is it's own card i think.17:13
blackcatnekonegrwawowe, so is the "p" command safe?17:13
donvito|2!openssh17:13
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)17:13
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: type "p" and hit enter. it doesn't do anything by itself17:14
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: p = print17:14
blackcatnekonegrwawowe, ok17:14
bjorkintoshyes definitely.17:14
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: w is the one that changes stuff17:14
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: w = write17:14
blackcatnekonegrwawowe,, usb flash drive is dead, end of story17:14
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: k17:14
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: type q to quit17:14
blackcatnekonegrwawowe,, I only see my hard disks, I guess that usb flash drive really was junk17:15
wawoweblackcatnekonegr: you may have opened the wrong drive17:15
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schreberhow do you unmount a mounted drive? I've tried sudo umount /dev/blah1 but I get a 'device is busy' message when clearly it's not.17:15
wawoweschreber: lsof | grep /dev/blah117:16
wawoweschreber: or /mnt/blah117:16
wawoweschreber: kill the process that's using it17:16
blackcatnekonegrschreber, first close any program, window that may be using the device, if that fails, try right click, "unmount" use "Safe unmount" if available17:16
bjorkintoshwawowe, how do i redirect the sound to my new sound card?17:17
wawowebjorkintosh: pastebin the output of aplay -l and tell me which card you want to use17:18
schreberthe lsof | grep /dev/blah1 didn't return anything neither did the it's alternative /mnt/blah117:18
escottschreber, did you "cd" out of that folder17:18
bjorkintoshcard 1: Headset [HP Digital Stereo Headset], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]  Subdevices: 1/117:19
bjorkintoshthat's the card i want to use ^17:19
wawowebjorkintosh: k17:19
escottschreber, you can also issue a "dismount when possible" command which will prevent new processes from accessing the disk, but not fully unmounting17:19
iLogicalMy keyboard is a generic abnt 2 keyboard... I don't see my keyboard's brand anywhere in this list, what do I do:17:19
iLogical?17:19
schreberhow do I issue that command?17:19
escottiLogical, select a generic 104 keyboard then17:19
blackcatnekonegrschreber, if that does not work, see if the device is being written (Usually the light is on) and wait until it ends. If nothing seems to work, just shut down the system (By using linux, not manually) if you see any error messages during the shut down, try to virus scan the hard disk /usb flash drive and also scan for errors.17:20
wawowebjorkintosh: put http://paste.ubuntu.com/1015105/ in ~/.asoundrc17:20
schreberit's an internal drive not external17:20
blackcatnekonegriLogical, pick generic keyboard and manually set the language, keyboard setting.17:20
iLogicalescott, thanks17:20
escottiLogical, umount -l, just be aware that doing so does not actually dismount the device so you cant unplug17:20
escottschreber, ^^ not iLogical17:21
wawowebjorkintosh: and echo "autospawn = no" ~/.pulse/client.conf; killall pulseaudio17:21
amelia_Hej.. I forget what the left-hand-side launcher is called in Unity.. but I've just upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 and it no longer auto-hides.. how can I fix this?17:21
blackcatnekonegriLogical, or pick ibm, then pick the closest to your keyboard layout17:21
bjorkintoshokay wawowe.17:21
bjorkintoshthanks. i'll try that.17:21
card-board-box!unfo17:21
card-board-box!info17:21
EaglemanI'm having an issue with windows supporting characters in file names, i currently have this script and since windows isnt supporting : and linux isnt allowing me to replace the : with ; OUTPUTFILE="/media/usbbackupdisk/configbackups/configbackup_$(date +%m-%d-%Y_%I:%M).tar.gz"17:21
blackcatnekonegriLogical, some generic keyboards have problems with ubuntu, I had to switch mine17:22
Eaglemanthe : in _%I:%M17:22
escottEagleman, \;17:22
bootstrapHi, I'm having an external hd issue.  Only some of my folders are visible.  Anyone know why?  The folders are still there just not visible, ex: I can cd to /music in terminal17:22
iLogicalhmm17:22
escottEagleman, although I cannot understand what would compel you to put any of those characters in the filename17:22
iLogicalwith just worked very fine blackcatnekonegr17:22
Eagleman(date +%m-%d-%Y_%I/;%M) doesnt work17:23
blackcatnekonegrEagleman, tried massive renaming the files in windows? or if you want to rename files in linux, "Purrr" while old, works well.17:23
wawowebootstrap: may be corrupted17:23
PiciEagleman: it would be \; not /;17:23
wawowebootstrap: if it's fat16 or something like that17:24
bootstrapwawowe it's ntfs17:24
EaglemanThanks Pici it worked17:24
escottEagleman, for your own sanity I would strongly suggest %Y%m%d%I%M17:24
blackcatnekonegriLogical, did you fix your keyboard problem?17:24
EaglemanAnd why is that escott17:25
wawowebootstrap: don't know then, could try defragging it17:25
iLogicalblackcatnekonegr, it asked to configure it to upgrade17:25
EaglemanWhat i have now looks better and is easier to read on windows17:25
iLogicalit's working still17:25
escottEagleman, because special characters in filenames are bad (as you are discovering) and because your current format does not sort correctly, but %Y%m%d does17:25
iLogicalI guess we will see if it works after reboot ;) blackcatnekonegr17:25
bootstrapwawowe: yeah, I'm going to try now, just wanted to ask to see what others thought17:26
wawowebootstrap: either way you should think about backing up as much as you can17:26
EaglemanIt sorts well escott17:26
bootstrapwawowe: yeah thanks, I have it on dropbox and wuala already, so it isn't a huge deal17:26
blackcatnekonegrbootstrap, once you backup, try gparted, but be sure to know what are you doing, and whats linux version of the good old scandisk?17:28
blackcatnekonegrHey thats a good one, what is linux scandisk?17:28
escottblackcatnekonegr, fsck17:28
blackcatnekonegrSystem-config-lvm, might try it....17:29
blackcatnekonegrI am getting tired of the old backup, delete hard disk and format after all.17:30
zambawhat has happened to eggdrop in 12.04? it crashes now17:32
zambabig fat crash17:33
zambahttp://pastie.org/399659117:33
donvito2i installed open ssh server and client computer is connected and running but i cant connect from other pc via putty17:34
donvito2what im doing wrong?17:34
BWorldHi there, what is the best place to look for help when upgrading to ubuntu 12.0.4 failed from 10.0.4 LTS ? The ubuntu machine is running as VM inside a Xen server,,17:34
blackcatnekonegrzamba, try the olde "Synaptic reinstall packages trick", and try again17:34
BWorldproblem is that I cant even login to a root shell anymore17:35
CoJaBoOk, so this machine had a dead CD drive and wont boot off of USB... Any ideas?17:35
WarOfTheNerddonvito, are you sure you haven't got a firewall running?17:35
CoJaBoI'm starting to remember why I haven't yet updated it from Jaunty :/17:35
donvito2well i have installed ubuntu 12.04 desktop17:35
donvito2does it have firewall by himself?17:35
zambablackcatnekonegr: never heard about that trick?17:35
WarOfTheNerddonvito, on the openssh server is a firewall running?17:35
wawoweCoJaBo: what's your intention?17:35
blackcatnekonegrCoJaBo, can you plug in the hard disk to another machine?17:35
zambablackcatnekonegr: care to elaborate?17:35
dorswhat the other pc says it gone wrong donvito2?17:35
CoJaBowawowe: To install the latest version17:36
donvito2time out17:36
_sjsdoes anyone have any good guides for monitor calibration? I've got a samsung that looks great, but then I bought an Acer S230HL and the colors are WAY off. I've tried changing the monitor settings manually but it doesn't allow me to change RGB settings, so I'm trying to use the nvidia but I have no experience with hues/saturation/ brightness/contrast/etc so I have no idea what I'm doing17:36
WarOfTheNerddonvito, no it doesn't by default.  But your router might firewall between the two computers17:36
CoJaBoblackcatnekonegr: No, laptop drive, and my USB thing for that is busted17:36
wawoweCoJaBo: which version is jaunty17:36
blackcatnekonegrzamba, simply use Synaptic to reinstall the program you are having problems with17:36
wawoweCoJaBo: lsb_release -a17:36
CoJaBowawowe: 9.something17:36
zambablackcatnekonegr: already tried that17:36
dorscan you ping the server from the pc donvito2?17:36
donvito2second17:36
blackcatnekonegrCoJaBo, can you boot any os in the laptop?17:37
wawoweCoJaBo: have you tried upgrading and failed?17:37
falemattei get this error when i launch webcamstudio http://pastebin.com/j0NtWbcX what can i do? Hellpp :D17:37
donvito2no i got request time out17:37
blackcatnekonegrCoJaBo, cause if you can boot windows, simply use an iso and daemon tools,17:37
dorsok, so your problem is not ssl17:37
CoJaBowawowe: The package manager is totally effed17:37
dorsbut other thing, prly infrastructure17:37
escott!ufw | donvito17:37
ubottudonvito: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.17:37
CoJaBoblackcatnekonegr: It has Jaunty on it now17:38
wawoweCoJaBo: how effed? what does apt-get -f install do?17:38
shaneoquantal dailys hate ubuntu tweak :(17:38
CoJaBowawowe: Fails with an error saying the database is broken17:38
blackcatnekonegr donvito, you could use Gufw, as it has a gui and is easy to use17:38
bjorkintoshdidn't work wawowe17:38
bjorkintoshstill no sound.17:38
wawoweCoJaBo: apt-get update17:39
blackcatnekonegr CoJaBo, install a program that can mount isos and try installing from the iso17:39
wawowebjorkintosh: apt-get install mplayer17:39
bjorkintoshi've got mplayer.17:39
wawowebjorkintosh: mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=1.0 mp3.mp317:39
CoJaBowawowe: As I said, I've tried numerous times to get it to work. Thats actually the only reason I even need to upgrade, to fix that issue.17:39
SnowmanX11Hi there! Is there anybody here who made this soundcard work under 12.04? >>>  Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)17:40
wawoweCoJaBo: apt-get update shows the same thing?17:40
CoJaBoblackcatnekonegr: I need to boot from it tho, not run from inside the existing17:40
wawoweCoJaBo: it should update the database17:40
bjorkintoshthat works. however, how do i make the browser use this device?17:40
CoJaBowawowe: Any attempt to do anything errors out.17:40
bjorkintosh'cause that sends the sound right to the speaker... defeating the purpose of my purchase.17:41
wawoweCoJaBo: pastebin both errors17:41
wawoweCoJaBo: from apt-get update and apt-get -f install17:41
blackcatnekonegrCoJaBo, ok usb and cd romdrive are busted, you cannot plug in the hard disk to another machine, I guess you don't have a floppy drive device?17:41
CoJaBowawowe: Even if I get it working, in the event it fails, I'd be back to square one, only with a totally broken machine...17:41
wawowebjorkintosh: restart your browser if you didn't before17:41
Bulletrulzim pissed off at people who are worshiping steve jobs17:42
Jordan_U!ot | Bulletrulz17:42
ubottuBulletrulz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:42
blackcatnekonegrI am pissed at people not remembering the other guy who died17:42
wawoweCoJaBo: it's up to you17:42
CoJaBoblackcatnekonegr: I don't suppose theres a way to get Grub to boot off either the USB CD drive or a thumbdrive if i can find one?17:42
wawoweCoJaBo: grub can boot both cd and usb17:43
adamkhanhello world :P17:43
t4nk024i need help17:43
weetabeexdon't we all...17:43
adamkhan:)17:43
t4nk024with my admin password17:43
adamkhanshoot t4nk02417:43
adamkhanready :)17:43
CoJaBowawowe: How17:43
TheLordOfTime!root | t4nk02417:43
ubottut4nk024: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo17:43
t4nk024any one can help17:44
TheLordOfTimet4nk024: in case that's the admin password you were referencing17:44
TheLordOfTime!anyone | t4nk02417:44
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Does your BIOS support booting from USB?17:44
ubottut4nk024: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.17:44
CoJaBoJordan_U: Evidently not.17:44
blackcatnekonegrCoJaBo, try creating a small particion, install linux there, then boot from it, then format the bigger particion, install linux there and... wait, I am even making sence?17:44
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Do you have a reliable internet connection which you can access via ethernet?17:45
CoJaBoJordan_U: Yeh17:45
t4nk024i need to rest the password from the shal from the guest17:45
wawoweCoJaBo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128860417:45
wawowet4nk024: explain17:46
CoJaBowawowe: This is Grub1 tho17:46
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Then I would recommend configuring your existing grub legacy install to boot the Ubuntu 12.04 netboot installer. It will run completely from RAM so it can install to the hard drive it was initially loaded from. If it fails during install you might be left with a completely unbootable system though.17:46
jfroebeanyone know of a way to install ubuntu 12.04 remotely?  I currently have remote access (via logmein) to a windows box that needs to be rebuilt to ubuntu 12.04 - I do not have physical access to the machine.  Win7 would be wiped from the box.17:46
blackcatnekonegrCoJaBo, do not even try it with wifi!17:46
t4nk024the usdo password was "password"17:46
t4nk024i change it17:47
t4nk024to some thing else17:47
CoJaBoJordan_U: Are there instructions for that?17:47
adamkhanwell17:47
adamkhanmaybe17:47
adamkhanu should ask the owner :P17:47
t4nk024i need to rest the admin password17:47
Pici!enter17:47
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!17:47
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Not that I know of, but it's pretty easy and I can explain it to you.17:47
CoJaBoJordan_U: Well, how?17:48
Penguincsct4nk024: is the admin user the same as yours?17:48
t4nk024i need to take to one man17:48
t4nk024so i understand17:48
wawoweCoJaBo: there's a way, don't remeber tho, fastest solution is get the kernel and initrd from tinycore and boot that17:48
t4nk024talkto17:48
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Is this a 32 bit only machine?17:48
Penguincsct4nk024: is the admin user the same as yours?17:49
t4nk024yes17:49
Jordan_UCoJaBo: And if so, do you know if it supports PAE?17:49
wawowet4nk024: can you boot a livecd?17:49
Penguincsct4nk024: do you remember your password?17:49
t4nk024yes17:49
CoJaBoIts 64bit17:49
wawowet4nk024: boot livecd and mount the partition17:49
Penguincsct4nk024: so it's easy - what Ubuntu version are you using?17:50
wawowet4nk024: edit /etc/shadow17:50
t4nk0241217:50
monikahi17:50
Penguincsct4nk024: clock your name at the top right and then click user Accounts at the bottom17:50
t4nk024what about my data17:51
monikamy flash in opera not firefox isn't working on the system ... any ideas why not, how to debug it?17:51
monikaI'm running ubuntu 10.1017:51
CoJaBoJordan_U: ?17:51
Penguincsct4nk024: if you only reset or change your password - nothing else changes17:51
t4nk024are they going to be erase17:51
monikaI tried reinstalling, aslo dowloading the .so from the adobe site directly, but none of the approaches work17:51
amh345is is apache2.2-common required to run apachectl 2.4?17:51
iLogicalI just upgraded to 12.04, can I have gnome back? :(17:51
monikaso obviously I need a debug of somekind17:52
escott!notunity | iLogical17:52
ubottuiLogical: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic17:52
t4nk024ok , i will thanks17:52
blackcatnekonegrmonika, tried to uninstall and then reinstall it?17:52
Penguincsct4nk024: this desn't change the file permissions17:52
monikablackcatnekonegr, yeah that was one of the first things I tried17:52
Penguincsct4nk024: you just click the stars on the Password line and change it17:52
wawowemonika: download the lib and put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins17:52
blackcatnekonegrmonika, what version of opera are you using?17:53
Jordan_UCoJaBo: The first thing you need to do is download the netboot kernel and initrd from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/precise/ but to know which to download you need to know if your computer has a 64 bit processor (just like you need to know with any OS installation).17:53
iLogicalescott, hmm gnome 3 seems so brand new and stuff, I want it :)17:53
t4nk024Penguincsc can i have one window just with you17:53
t4nk024not to all the room17:53
Penguincsct4nk024: why?17:54
monikawawowe, I did that, the plugin is detected, but flash doesn't work on youtube17:54
monikablackcatnekonegr, 11.6217:54
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t4nk024too many line to skip untel17:54
Penguincsct4nk024: We are all helpful penguins around here ;-)17:54
t4nk024i find you17:54
wawowemonika: does it work one sites other than youtube?17:54
blackcatnekonegrmonika, does not work at all or you get errors?17:54
t4nk024its all about recognaise17:54
iLogical!unity shell17:55
Penguincscmonika: did you make sure all browser windows ()also other than opera) are closed?17:55
adamkhanmonika, even google chrome browser doesnt open fflash?17:55
Penguincscmonika: run htop in console17:55
monikablackcatnekonegr, wawowe the  black region where the video should be is showing (there's isn't an error that the flash is missing), but no video nor audio17:55
monikapenghuang, yeah of course :)17:55
monikawawowe, no it doesn't work anywheee17:55
Penguincsct4nk024: what other language do you speak?17:56
blackcatnekonegrmonika, it can be a missing package, a broken file or a problem with your video card, you said it works on firefox?17:56
adamkhanmonika, after debugging, have u logged out then logged in again??17:56
adamkhansometimes its that17:56
t4nk024my firt language is arabic17:56
monikablackcatnekonegr, it doesn't work anywhere17:56
t4nk024i need one chanal17:56
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Do you understand what I mean when I ask if the machine has a 64 bit CPU?17:57
Penguincscmonika: did it ever worked or did it break after an upgrade?17:57
monikait broke somehow17:57
monikahow to install an older version?17:57
monikahow to check the current version?17:57
wawowemonika: if you remove the lib from ~/.mozilla/plugins and restart opera is it still a black box?17:57
monikaand I'm in console only, so don't use synaptics17:57
blackcatnekonegrmonika, I bet is a problem with your video card, you will need to update your video card driver, had the same problem before, good luck, you will need it.17:57
CoJaBoJordan_U: It had a 64bit OS on it. Yeh, I'm pretty certain its 64bit17:57
bjorkintoshuse the X server, monika17:57
monikawawowe, no it's missing plugin - I know what I'm doing :)17:58
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OerHeksflash does not work in console17:58
t4nk024<Penguincsc> i need one chanal17:58
Penguincsct4nk024: answer me on the private msg17:58
wawowemonika: run ldd ~/.mozilla/plugins/*17:58
t4nk024how ???17:59
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Great. Then download these files: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/linux http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/initrd.gz17:59
wawowemonika: and look for missing library dependencies17:59
CoJaBoAnd do what with them17:59
blackcatnekonegrmonika, try searching topics about your video card driver on linux and check the wiki, if there is a know issue, it will probably have it, make no mistake is your video card. let me guess NVIDIA?17:59
Jordan_UCoJaBo: I'll get to that, please give me time to type :)17:59
monikablackcatnekonegr, no it's ATI18:00
blackcatnekonegrmonika, try updating your video card driver on linux, on some cards generics cause that flash problem.18:01
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Create a directory in /boot/ for them so that they don't get confused with other kernels/initrds with "sudo mkdir /boot/ubuntu-installer/" and copy the two files into that directory with "sudo cp ...".18:01
t4nk024""answer me on the private msg"" how ???18:01
Penguincsct4nk024: look around the chat window, you should see my nick name somewhere18:01
BhaveshI tried installing Additional Drivers - Graphics card driver [Recommended], then I did a restart and my entire screen was black. I clicked around and then came up my wallpaper, then the right click menu. I had to remove my graphics driver to get it to normal. In Ubuntu 12.0418:01
monikabtw: I have flashplugin-nonfree installed18:01
oCean!afk > ray1claw_afk18:02
ubotturay1claw_afk, please see my private message18:02
t4nk024i am using : http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=t4nk...&channels=ubuntu&prompt=1#18:02
Penguincscmonika: try right-clicking the black window and removing the 3d acceleration on the settings18:02
CoJaBoJordan_U: If the install trashes /boot/, then, I'd be Totally Screwed.18:02
t4nk024there is no option there18:02
Penguincsct4nk024: install xchat then18:02
Penguincsct4nk024: it's easier18:02
iLogicalI runned a command with alt+f2 on unity to install gnome shell and I don't know if it's running18:02
t4nk024i cant i am guest18:02
wawowemonika: you don't need to have that installed since you put flash in ~/.mozilla/plugins18:02
t4nk024i cant i am guest18:03
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Correct. Once you've started the install there is no turning back, it either succeeds or you have an unbootable system (or there is a chance you'll have a somewhat bootable system which can be recovered from).18:03
t4nk024i have no sudo password18:03
BhaveshSo will I ever be able to use a graphics card drive on Ubuntu 12.04?18:03
blackcatnekonegrmonika, the best option is to use the proprietary driver ATI has for linux or ubuntu, if there is an ubuntu specific version use that one. I had  a similar problem with a different video card.18:03
Penguincsct4nk024: so you should look around the web interface and see how you open a private chat window18:04
CoJaBoJordan_U: Yeh, I can't do that then :/18:04
blackcatnekonegrCoJaBo, the best option is to take the laptop to a tech guy, make him install linux for you, they do have the right cables and devices to read a laptop hard disk.18:04
blackcatnekonegrCoJaBo, the bad thing is, it costs money.18:05
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BhaveshI guess compiz doesn't start or something like that18:05
t4nk024i have another account but it login and right a way logout why18:05
PenguincscCoJaBo: what are you trying to do?18:05
CoJaBoblackcatnekonegr: I could probably buy a new one for cheaper than paying someone to use one, its just that I only have today to do this :/18:05
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Install Precise on a machine with no CD drive18:06
t4nk024there is no password recwaired to login18:06
ha1dfohi all. What's the proper way to install sun-java-6 on ubuntu 1204?18:06
BhaveshSo is the recommended driver for Ubuntu 12.04 bugged...?18:06
PenguincscCoJaBo: do you have a USB pendrive?18:07
escottBhavesh, oracle no longer allows ubuntu to distributed sun java18:07
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Nope18:07
Bhaveshescott: I guess ha1dfo asked the question about sun java18:07
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Since you only have one hard drive there is pretty much nothing you can do to install Ubuntu which won't involve some risk of making that drive unbootable. Even creating a new partition on the same drive and bootstrapping from there carries some risk. I think my solution is the least risk because it's the simplest, it's a standard installation using the netboot installer with nothing fancy to make it less reliable.18:08
PenguincscCoJaBo: can you get one?18:08
CoJaBoPenguincsc: I have a USB CD drive and SD card; it boots from neither of these.18:08
PenguincscCoJaBo: All you need is at least 2GB18:08
t4nk024thanks and bye18:08
ha1dfoescott, so basically if i need that I have to download sun's binary one?18:08
PenguincscCoJaBo: what's the laptop model?18:08
donvito2is it possible to install teamviewer in ubuntu via terminal?18:08
ha1dfothanks Bhav :)18:09
blackcatnekonegrBhavesh, there is not such a thing as the perfect generic driver, if you have a proprietary video card use the proprietary video card driver unless card is a generic.18:09
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Not sure if it will even boot from it- I've never seen a machine that boots from neither a USB CD drive nor SD18:09
svm_invictvsYou're going to laugh at me for asking this...18:09
mcb_1donvito2: Yes, but you have to download de .deb and install it with dpkg.18:09
donvito2okeyy18:09
donvito2thanks18:09
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Inspiron 152118:10
escottBhavesh, sorry, ha1dfo, yes18:10
svm_invictvsI downloaded a binary from the web, trying to run it.  I get bash: ./foo.bin: No such file or directory18:10
svm_invictvsThis is despite the fact that file is right there18:10
PenguincscCoJaBo: I used an SD card to install Ubuntu on my cd-less netbook18:10
blackcatnekonegrBhavesh, both ATi and NVIDIA are know to have problems with ubuntu generic drivers18:10
PenguincscCoJaBo: try this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows18:10
Rud_svm_invictvs: chmod a+x foo.bin18:10
svm_invictvspatrick@ubuntu:~$ ./server924_linux32.bin18:10
svm_invictvs-bash: ./server924_linux32.bin: No such file or directory18:10
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Yeh, I've done that on my netbook before I got my CD drive. Neither work on this machine tho.18:10
PenguincscCoJaBo: You can use the SD card with a special adapter18:11
Jordan_Usvm_invictvs: The file which isn't found is the standard 32 bit C library that the binary depends on but which you haven't installed yet on your primarily 64 bit system.18:11
Bhaveshblackcatnekonegr: So what am I supposed to do if I want a video card driver?18:11
CoJaBoPenguincsc: It has an internal SD18:11
Bhaveshblackcatnekonegr: Well I have a Nvidia GeForce video card. It was supported earlier on Ubuntu 11.10 but not now.18:11
svm_invictvsJordan_U: AH18:11
PenguincscCoJaBo: You mean SSD?18:11
svm_invictvs-rwxrwxr-x 1 patrick patrick 433777820 May 30 11:07 server924_linux32.bin18:11
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blackcatnekonegrBhavesh, install the proprietary one  that the company has for linux18:11
AndroUserHey I need help too18:11
svm_invictvsJesus fucking christ, why doesn't it tell me that?18:11
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Built-in reader18:11
Bhaveshblackcatnekonegr: ok ty.18:12
PenguincscCoJaBo: why won't it boot?18:12
Jordan_U!language | svm_invictvs18:12
ubottusvm_invictvs: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.18:12
CoJaBoPenguincsc: No idea.18:12
AndroUserWhat should I do for a input not supported when I cant even see the screen?18:12
CoJaBoIt boots the fricking netbook just fine.18:12
lelamal!language | svm_invictvs18:12
svm_invictvssudo apt-get install ia32-libs?18:12
svm_invictvsJordan_U: Thanks.  Sorry for the f-bomb18:13
escottsvm_invictvs, with multiarch you probably dont need ia32-libs18:13
PenguincscCoJaBo: I used my desktop Ubuntu to create the startup disk on an SD card, then I inserted this card in my Netbooks card reader and booteted the Live Ubunt from it18:13
PenguincscCoJaBo: And then I installed18:13
PenguincscCoJaBo: all you need is to tell it to boot from the card18:14
svm_invictvsescott: hm?18:14
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blackcatnekonegrBhavesh, you can install the old Ubuntu 11.10 alongside the new version, that’s the best option for the moment, or just keep  Ubuntu 11.10 in a different particion, that's what I am doing.18:14
svm_invictvsescott: Oh, I didn't install multiarch, I just installed 64 bit server.18:14
escottsvm_invictvs, 11.10 and 12.04 allow you to install package:i386 instead of ia32-libs18:14
AndroUserAll i did was downloaded it to a seprate drive I cant see the thing to select users?18:15
Jon--atworkI'm working on a box where I do not have access to modify /etc/network/interfaces but I do have sudo access to ifconfig and ip. Can I create an interface with the same functionality as that conf file using these tools? (yes/no will suffice I can read man pages and figure it out myself)18:15
wawoweJon--atwork: yes18:15
CoJaBoPenguincsc: It's set to boot from "CD, then USB devices, then HDD"18:15
svm_invictvsescott: What's ridiculous is all I want to run is the Oracle WebLogic 9.2 installer.  Then once it's installed I'll run it in the 64 bit JVM rathr han the one it provides -_-18:15
svm_invictvsescott: And yes, Weblogic 9.2 is old....really old like 8 years old.18:15
wawoweJon--atwork: you won't be able to do things like load iptables rules though18:15
PenguincscCoJaBo: not enough18:15
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Ahh, so it at least claims to support booting from USB. That's a good sign.18:16
CoJaBoSame happens if I select USB from the boot menu; it just immediately boots from HDD.18:16
Jon--atworkwawowe, That would be using ip right? I'm more familiar with BSD, where there is 'ifconfig create'. Ubuntu seems to not have that, at least its not documented18:16
Markoheloo18:16
PenguincscCoJaBo: I press the F12key to get to the boot menu or the Esc on my Asus EeePC18:16
eggbertWhat is wrong with the ubuntu download page? There is no link or no way I can see to download older version. (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server)18:16
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Yeh, tried that too18:16
MarkoI have a problem with cron job... :(18:16
gohkeshHi Marko. Whats up?18:16
jgrevichI created a new raid , rebooted, and I don't get any feedback as to the rebuild speed (which I usually do). Any idea why?  /proc/mdstat says, "md126 : active (auto-read-only) raid5 sdr[5] sdp[2] sdo[1] sdn[0] sdq[3]  3907045376 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 512k chunk, algorithm 2 [5/4] [UUUU_]18:16
PenguincscCoJaBo: when you get to the boot menu it lists all devices - where you choose the SD card18:17
MarkoProblem is that i do not to do with it18:17
wawoweJon--atwork: in that case yes, if you've got sudo access with iptables18:17
PenguincscCoJaBo: it might show up as a USB-HDD18:17
jgrevichmdadm -D does show, "5      65       16        4      spare rebuilding   /dev/sdr", but again, there's no rate anywhere to estimate the time remaining.18:17
CoJaBoPenguincsc: It lists only "cd, hdd, usb devices, and pxe"; selecting any of them does not give a second level of choices.18:17
wawoweJon--atwork: i never use ip so i'm not sure what it's capable of18:17
wawoweJon--atwork: but glancing at the man page it looks a lot like iptables18:18
ShantAnyone heard of issues where logging in on one screen worked fine, but if the login box was on another screen it crashed?18:18
wawoweJon--atwork: and there is no ifconfig create18:18
PenguincscCoJaBo: Does the BIOS has a specific setting to enable or disable booting from removable media?18:18
AndroUserHey can I please get help18:19
gohkeshI've got to pee, I'll be back in a minute18:19
wawoweJon--atwork: do something like: ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.3 broadcast 10.0.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 up; route add default gw 10.0.0.118:19
eggbertAnyone know how to download older < 12.04 version of ubuntu?18:19
escott!help | AndroUser18:19
ubottuAndroUser: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:19
zanberdojgama, watch -n1 cat /proc/mdstat18:19
Picieggbert: You can download any supported release from this url: http://releases.ubuntu.com/18:20
Jon--atworkwawowe, why the heck would I need iptables to make a VLAN?18:20
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Just checked, and no; also, USB devices isn't actually listed in the boot menu, only the BIOS boot order setting.18:20
Shanteggbert: you could downlaod the ISO, burn a DVD and rn a clean install?18:20
Jon--atworkwawowe, I want to create i/fs vlan1 and vlan2 with vlan_raw_device eth0 and some static address18:20
_numbersi cant find audio controls in xfce ubuntu 12.0418:20
jgrevichzanberdo: I assume that was meant for me :).. Should it eventually show a rate, my proc/mdstat still looks the same as what I mentioned above18:20
amh345is it possible to upgrade to apache 2.4 from 2.2 or is it pretty much a clean install?  im having some serious difficulties getting 2.4 running and i think it's because of 2.218:20
wawoweJon--atwork: you wouldn't. didn't know how far your plans went18:20
blackcatnekonegreggbert, yes try the torrents18:20
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Can you get a USB drive of some sort? That sounds like your best bet at the moment.18:20
svm_invictvsHm, Jordan_U ... installing i386 and still no dice18:20
_numbersthe gnome-sound-applet   doesn't allow me to open the sound configuration area anymore since i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.0418:20
amh345it's crashed my server, so ive had to use an old image and start this process all over again.  any help would be appreciated.18:21
_numbershow do i find the sound settings? i want to switch from desktop speakers to usb headset18:21
svm_invictvssudo apt-get install i386 right?18:21
eggbertJoy.. I wonder if we could get releases.ubuntu.com linked to from the downloads page? Sad that I have to get on here to find it18:21
CoJaBoJordan_U: Only one I have is busted :/18:21
jgrevichShouldn't I also see mdadm rebuilding in iotop?18:21
Picieggbert: most people don't want or need to download an old release.18:21
wawoweJon--atwork: you'll be able to do that18:21
Shanteggbert: google often helps...18:21
eggbertblackcatnekonegr: I can't torrent through the proxy at work18:21
blackcatnekonegrI suggested that using "list gives a list in pm to where to download ubuntu releases18:21
eggbertShant: Yep... google works great in spite of a website with no navigation of its own18:21
blackcatnekonegreggbert, http://releases.ubuntu.com/18:22
ShantDoes anyone have any clue what could be causing my issue with the screens?18:22
zanberdojgrevich, yes, that was meant for you.  No, sorry, I don't believe mdstat will report an actual recovery rate, however, by watching the file every sec you should get a general idea by noting the increasing '>' (I believe that's the char used to indicate process, I'm not rebuilding a bad array atm)18:22
eggbertThe ubutnu website really sucks18:22
CoJaBoThis sucks. :/18:23
blackcatnekonegrShant, have you updated the video driver to the proprietary one?18:23
eggbertthanks for the link though guys/gals18:23
PenguincscCoJaBo: Just read the >Owners Manual for your laptop18:23
jgrevichzanberdo: I just stopped the raid and recreated it. that seemed to work. Now i have this in mdstat, "[>....................]  recovery =  0.0% (183872/976761344) finish=708.0min speed=22984K/sec"18:24
eggbertBut if the web designer for ubuntu.com is on here I want to ream them out... terrible user experience18:24
Shantblackcatnekonegr: not that I know of but the update manager does not have anyhting?18:24
TheLordOfTimeeggbert: the designers aren't here :P18:24
CoJaBoPenguincsc: I don't even have it.. Wheres the instructions on creating the USB stick, isn't there a script to run or something? Guess I need to buy one then..18:24
PenguincscCoJaBo: did you create an Ubuntu SD card?18:25
TheLordOfTimeeggbert: if you have any complaints, i believe there's a contact location for them... just dont remember what it is18:25
falemattei get this error when i launch webcamstudio http://pastebin.com/j0NtWbcX what can i do? Hellpp :D18:25
blackcatnekonegr Shant, first update the video card driver with the last proprietary one, then if that does not fix the problem, come here and ask again.18:25
jgrevichzanberdo: before mine didn't' even have the [>….] bit18:25
zanberdojgrevich, ah, yes, that looks familiar. The 'watch -n1' preceding 'cat /proc/mdstat' should provide continue updates to the output and should reflect the recovery (in your example currently 0.0%) as well as the '>>>......' as the recover proceeds.  If however the rate has not changed then perhaps mdadm is hung?18:25
PenguincscCoJaBo: What are you trying to boot Ubuntu from?18:25
eggbertschadenfreude!18:25
jgrevichzanberdo: seems to be working now.. .Thanks!18:26
PenguincscCoJaBo: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins1521/en/om_en/pdf/RT722A02MR.pdf18:26
CoJaBoPenguincsc: A long while back, for the netbook. I need to make a newer one with the latest version.18:26
zanberdojgrevich, no problem. Glad to help18:26
Ek|mu5Hi all, just want to know how to hide/remove real name from switch user on the panel18:26
amh345there's no assistance anyone can give on this apache stuff?18:26
PenguincscCoJaBo: That's for sure18:26
jgrevichzanberdo: still mystified why it stopped rebuilding after I rebooted previously. but i won't' worry about it unless it happens agin18:26
LazyTownWhat is the best IRC client?18:26
CoJaBoPenguincsc: How? For some reason I cant find it18:26
AndroUserHey help for me?18:26
zanberdojgrevich, always a good idea ... don't fix it if it ain't broke. :)18:26
jgrevich:)18:26
zanberdoamh345, you might try #apache18:27
amh345apache tell me to go here18:27
PenguincscCoJaBo: some laptops (like the Asus U33) do not boot from the SD card reader18:27
amh345because it's distro specific18:27
blackcatnekonegrfor apache help, go to  #httpd, thank you.18:27
zanberdoLazyTown, the one that works for you I would guess.18:27
zanberdoamh345, do you have a question then?18:27
LazyTownzanberdo, just wanting a recommendation, I'm sure they all work... for everybody.18:27
CoJaBoPenguincsc: I'm going  to buy a new thumbdrive, but I need the instructions on how to set that up; Google is being useless18:28
PenguincscCoJaBo: buy a dirt cheap 2GB USB stick and follow the instructions on the link I sent you18:28
blackcatnekonegrLazyTown, that depends, what you need it for? if you want something simple use Pidgim, if you want something conplex use xchat18:28
CoJaBoWhat link?18:28
zanberdoLazyTown, I happen to use xchat for gui and iirc for cli18:28
LazyTownThanks guys.18:28
PenguincscCoJaBo: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows18:28
fl1bbl3LazyTown irssi for me18:28
escottAndroUser, stop asking for help and describe (in detail) your problem18:28
PenguincscCoJaBo: do you have a working Ubuntu somewhwre?18:29
CoJaBoPenguincsc: I don't have a windows machine..18:29
amh345zanberdo: so many questions.  my entire upgrade failed. so i've had to start from square one.   currently running ubuntu 12 server.  apache 2.2 is setup and running. but i have to upgrade to 2.4. 2.2 was installed via apt-get package manager but 2.4 isnt avail with apt-get yet.  so im having some serious issues.18:29
CoJaBoI thought there was just a script to run, all I'm turning up is a long series oof instructinns for very old versions18:29
blackcatnekonegrLazyTown, get pidgim anyway just in case, sometimes it can work while xchat does not, I use both.18:29
AndroUserCan i get help with 11.1018:29
i2out3rHey fellas - quick question, how are run levels managed in 12.04?18:29
PenguincscCoJaBo: even better, any other Ubuntu machine?18:29
Piciamh345: We don't package apache2.4 for any of our releases. Why do you need to 'upgrade' to 2.4?18:29
amh345when i last tried it befre the crash apachectl was asking for " Command 'apachectl' from package 'apache2.2-common' (main)"18:30
PenguincscCoJaBo: did you check out the link?18:30
amh345Pici, PCI compliance requires it. heres a snippet from the findings "Apache HTTP Server versions released prior to version 2.4.2 place a18:30
amh345directory (with a name length of 0) in the LD_LIBRARY_PATH."18:30
LazyTownthanks blackcatnekonegr18:30
blackcatnekonegramh345, you will have to use manual install or wait until that version becomes available18:30
amh345opps. two lines. sorry18:30
i2out3rI notice 12.04 defaults to run level 2, but how would I get an equivalent redhat run level 3 boot up?18:30
CoJaBoPenguincsc: The windows one? Or did you post one for linux?18:31
iLogical!notunity18:31
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic18:31
PenguincscCoJaBo: That was for windows. What Linux do you have that's usable?18:31
CoJaBoQuite a few.18:31
PenguincscCoJaBo: is this better: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu18:32
gohkeshDoes one simply walk into Mordor?18:32
Piciamh345: let me check something, be just a minite.18:32
SuperKayhow many DNS servers are in the world? What is ICANN? How NAT/DHCP/ARP works? How ISP works? How does the internet work? POP, IMAP, SPF (Sender Policy Framework), what are this things? etc etc etc..... Is there any book where one can learn all this stuff? :)18:32
escott!runlevel | i2out3r18:32
ubottui2out3r: In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.18:32
blackcatnekonegrCoJaBo, try lubuntu18:32
BedMangohkesh: well... the hobbits did18:32
zanberdoamh345, here is a very broad brushed suggestion but is by no means expected to be the 'right' answer: since you are looking to install apache from a source other than the package manager you will want to first be sure you have completely removed apache from the server.  Once apache has been removed you will then need to find a suitable source from which you can install apach 2.4.  My suggestion is to go to the apache website an18:32
zanberdod research how to install this version for your distro. If there is a ppa, install the ppa and download/install the appropriate release. If not, follow the steps for installing from source, baring in mind that your distro may require some 'tweaks'. At that point you should be able to get help from #http18:32
amh345blackcatnekonegr: that is part of my problem. i did a manual install. but there were issues like  Command 'apachectl' from package 'apache2.2-common' (main) when i tried to fire it up.  this was AFTER i removed apache 2.218:32
EaglemanI want to be able to run virtual machines on my ubuntu 12.04 server and connect from them remotly how do i configure this from the command line?18:33
i2out3rescott: So there is no way of booting CLI multi user in ubuntu?18:33
blackcatnekonegr amh345, well, I suggest the old "delete and try again"18:33
PenguincscEagleman: you need to install a Headless Virtualbox Server18:33
amh345zanberdo: i've done all that. but still came across dependancy errors that google turned up nothing for.      let me ask this. is apt-get --purge remove apache2 the correct way from removing apache2 from the server?18:33
iLogicalI have gnome shell installed, how do I turn it on as default?18:34
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Huh, I was hoping I'd be able to run it from the mounted ISO or something.. I don't have another 64-bit machine.18:34
genii-aroundSuperKay: As intriguiing as those questions are, they are not really Ubuntu support questions18:34
PenguincscEagleman: This should work on 12.04 too: http://www.howtoforge.com/vboxheadless-running-virtual-machines-with-virtualbox-4.0-on-a-headless-ubuntu-10.10-server18:35
zanberdoamh345, yes, that is the correct approach to remove any installed package. Though to be honest, I typically follow that up with 'sudo aptitude purge ~c' which (if you use aptitude) will purge all config files as well.  i think there is an apt equivalent but I don't recall it (as I tend to use aptitude)18:35
amh345Pici, ok thank you.  any info you can find would be greatly appreciated.   im going nuts here.   i've done the build.  i've done the install all went well. except it wouldnt run without tons of errors.18:35
EaglemanPenguincsc i've also read about kvm, should that work to?18:35
PenguincscCoJaBo: you need to download the ISO for 12.0418:35
AndroUserHey im having trouble too18:35
blackcatnekonegramh345, for apache help, go to  #httpd, thank you.18:35
amh345zanberdo: ok i will try that again18:35
CoJaBoPenguincsc: I have it already.18:35
BedManamh345: what kind of errors?18:36
amh345blackcatnekonegr: they are telling me to go here since it's distro specific, thank you18:36
PenguincscEagleman: VirtualBox is the simplest18:36
zanberdo!ask | AndroUser18:36
ubottuAndroUser: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:36
AndroUserMy ubuntu only boots up with a black screen and input not supported18:36
BedManamh345: it could all be path related, btw...18:36
BertoHi - I want to install phpmyadmin but NOT install Apache.  I use nginx.  How can I do this to avoid dependencies?18:36
EaglemanOk, thanks alot Penguincsc18:36
thyshi18:36
PenguincscCoJaBo: what version of Ubuntu do you have?18:36
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Several different versions18:36
thyshow do I backup my phpadmin files through the terminal?18:36
CoJaBoDoes it matter which i use..?18:36
PenguincscEagleman: you can google for "virtualbox vs. kvm"18:37
amh345BedMan:  i had to pull a new image. so im about to start from scratch. but i still have the errors on screen.  for example sudo /usr/local/apache2/bin/ apachectrl start returned  Command 'apachectl' from package 'apache2.2-common' (main)18:37
arooni-mobilei'm running ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop.  i want a command to run at 6AM, but if my laptop is asleep cron can't run it.  how can i make sure this command is run as soon as laptop is active and not sleeping etc?18:37
Markothis is hard to get attention18:37
Marko:D18:37
Piciamh345: Okay, It looks like you're talking about the issue listed in CVE-2012-0883, according to our CVE tracker, it appears that we have a patch applied against the apache2.2 that would prevent this scenario from being applicable. ( see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2012/CVE-2012-0883.html )  So theres no need to switch to the 2.4 branch of apache.18:37
ubottuenvvars (aka envvars-std) in the Apache HTTP Server before 2.4.2 places a zero-length directory name in the LD_LIBRARY_PATH, which allows local users to gain privileges via a Trojan horse DSO in the current working directory during execution of apachectl. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2012-0883)18:37
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xclusive585arooni-mobile: if you know your way around command line look into cron18:38
PenguincscCoJaBo: I am trying to help man!  Go to an 11.04 machine and run the Startup Disk Creator18:38
arooni-mobilexclusive585, i am running cron now; but i dont believe cron will run if the time passes18:38
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amh345Pici. thank you so much!!18:38
Ek|mu5Hi all, just want to know how to hide/remove real name from switch user on the panel also can I just use gconftool insead of dconf-editor?18:39
CoJaBoPenguincsc: I don't have that on any of mine..18:39
PenguincscCoJaBo: or gksu  usb-creator-gtk & from the console18:39
xclusive585arooni-mobile: there are explicit options that start with "@" like @reboot etc.18:39
xclusive585instead of a specific time\18:39
PenguincscCoJaBo: install it - usb-creator-gtk18:39
amh345ok guys. my next question.  how can i apply a patch? :/18:39
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Given that your machine can boot from USB, it's much less of a risk to try my method. If it fails, then you'll need to buy a flash drive to fix it but it won't be the death of the machine. And the procedure probably will work.18:39
PenguincscEk|mu5: try this: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/01/10/gconftool-2-gconf-editor-from-the-shell/18:41
Piciamh345: if you're talking about the patch I just mentioned, you don't need to. That was applied on the source package before it was built and distributed to our package repositories. The resulting binaries do not have the issue.18:41
Jordan_Uamh345: Why do you think you need to apply any patch? Pici just told you that "we have a patch applied against the apache2.2 that would prevent this scenario from being applicable" which means that *you* don't need to do anything, the work of patching has already been done by the Ubuntu developers.18:41
EaglemanPenguincsc it looks like KVM performs better than virtual box18:41
EaglemanI'm gonna test them both on my virtual ubuntu first18:42
amh345Pici, oh. i see.18:42
PenguincscEk|mu5: and you can change your name in the User Accounts option when you click your name18:42
gohkesh Does one simply walk into Mordor?18:42
EaglemanInstallation looks rather painfull to execute18:42
amh345so this PCI report must just be pulling from it's db on apache2.2 issues18:42
Jordan_U!ot | gohkesh18:42
ubottugohkesh: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:42
PenguincscEagleman: right - but it is more complicated to manage and set up. What do you need it for?18:43
blackcatnekonegrgohkesh, are you a troll?18:43
EaglemanPenguincsc so i can work on it while somewhere else like school or friends18:43
oCeanblackcatnekonegr: please don't do that18:43
Piciamh345: PCI relies on version numbers, which often do not reflect the patches that have been applied against the source.18:43
Ek|mu5Penguincsc: thanks, I just found out I was barking up the wrong tree, it's in gsettings. Also not intending to change the real name18:43
Ek|mu5just hide it in panel18:44
Eaglemannot for serious things just to test it out18:44
blackcatnekonegroCean, sorry18:44
AndroUserCould a install of ubuntu cause a page fault error when on of them is on the c/ drive and the other is on the d/18:44
PenguincscEagleman: I installed an Ubunto server @ my lab and each of my technicians have their on VM. They connect over RDP to it and I am using a regular new PC has the hardware18:44
amh345Pici, ok. time to plea my case to them18:44
amh345heh18:44
blackcatnekonegrAndroUser, any error that can happen will happen, are you talking about a grub error?18:45
gohkeshLol, do i look like one?18:45
AndroUserNo sorry I meant to ask that in windows18:45
paulus68I have a laptop from which the screen is working partially I attached it to an external monitor, however eachtime when I touch my mousepad or keys the screen is becomming visible again how can I avoid this from happening18:46
SomelauwDoes anyone experience that when running a youtube video or running flash in general **** up all graphics in every single application?18:46
PenguincscEagleman: if you use the proper security, you can leave it working and connect to it over the Internet from anywhere in the world18:46
gohkeshBtw one does not simply ask someone who seems to be a troll if he is one.18:46
oCeangohkesh: do you have an actual support question?18:46
PenguincscEagleman: better use VPN for that, or SSL VPN18:47
blackcatnekonegrAndroUser, install linux last, so it will install grub, done that way, you should not have problems.18:47
PenguincscCoJaBo: so, what's cooking?18:47
streulmapaulus68: same problem here, the screen works good, but when I give a tick on the laptop, the computer freezes :)18:47
amh345pici, just to make sure. how can i check that my version of apache 2.2 has this fix?  because at some point it didnt have the fix?18:47
EaglemanPenguincsc i already got openvpn set up18:47
streulmapaulus: also when I move the mouse around :(18:47
SomelauwOr insert the live cd after installing windows and recover whatever damage the win installer has done.18:47
gohkeshOcean, yes. I need to know how can i uninstall this shit and recover my lovely windows back?18:47
PenguincscEagleman: cool18:47
linusBD_how can I install a Lexmark z750 on Ubuntu 12.04 ?18:47
paulus68streulma: the computer is doing fine here however I don't want to screen to come alive and don't know how to achieve this18:48
EaglemanPenguincsc i'm gonna stick with virtualbox for now18:48
Somelauwgohkesh ask in #windows18:48
Somelauwgohkesh ask in #windows18:48
PenguincscEagleman: it's real simple. Use the regular one from the site repos - not the OSE18:48
dotrobhi there, after updating my 12.04 system today (kernel update included) my boot hangs 3 minutes on 'ACPI: processor limited to max C-state 1', dmesg.log is http://pastebin.com/w4vxHBcU - any ideas?18:48
blackcatnekonegrSomelauw, update your video card driver with the proprietary one, that's a know issue with ubuntu generic drivers, sometimes they cause problems with flash.18:48
EaglemanOSE?18:49
oCeangohkesh: stay on topic or you find yourself outside the channel18:49
wilee-nileegohkesh, what windows release?18:49
streulmaEagleman: you cannot run Virtualbox service on port 80 ?18:49
Ek|mu5Penguincsc: command-line: `gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.session show-real-name-on-panel false`18:49
oCeanwilee-nilee: please don't continue offtopic18:49
streulmaEagleman: run 2 interfaces on Virtualbox: NAT and Host-network18:49
PenguincscEagleman: you set up RDP on the Virtualbox server and start the VM from a command line, even over SSH18:49
Eaglemanstreulma it uses port 80 for a remote connection?18:49
Ek|mu5Penguincsc: logging out to see if it works :) thanks18:49
PenguincscEagleman: you can't do that in Windows! ;-)18:49
wilee-nileeoCean, no problem but a mbr load is easy, just thought helping might clear the channel.18:50
PenguincscEagleman: good luck\18:50
EaglemanLets install it first18:50
Somelauwblackcatnekonegr: Is nvidia 185-kernel-saurce the one I need? I am pretty sure I installed propierty drivers (although that was before I did a dist-upgrade).18:50
streulmaEagleman: hmm no, but we have a setup with Apache Proxy to an internal vm18:50
PenguincscEk|mu5: cool18:50
chkneaterCan anyone point me to some answers about JackD218:50
CoJaBoPenguincsc: usb-creator... errors out18:50
Ek|mu5Penguincsc: yep, it worked :)18:51
PenguincscEk|mu5: why would you want it?18:51
ericPi'm running 12.04 64 bit and would like to install virtualbox18:51
blackcatnekonegrSomelauw, the distro upgrade probably installed generic drivers, remove them and install the proprietary one18:51
Piciamh345: According to our CVE tracker, we have always used that patch, so you've never been vulnerable to this particular CVE.18:51
ericPi tried selecting "virtualbox" in aptitude and it proposed to close ~70 packages18:51
PenguincscCoJaBo: what's the error? Did you update the machine?18:52
Ek|mu5Penguincsc: just wanted to hide it. I'm on a laptop, don't want any prying eyes to see that kind of info18:52
Somelauwblackcatnekonegr: How to install the propierty one? Does the package have a name? My video card was made by nvidia.18:52
CoJaBoPenguincsc: ImportError: No module named gnomevfs18:52
blackcatnekonegrSomelauw, and usually, try installing the newest one first, unless your video card is too old.18:52
PenguincscEk|mu5: cool Linux lets you do all you want ;-)18:52
chkneateranyone know anything about Jack2?18:52
xanguaericP: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose18:52
PenguincscCoJaBo: run from console: apt-get update then upgrade then dist-upgrade - then try again18:53
iceroot!anyone | chkneater18:53
ubottuchkneater: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.18:53
blackcatnekonegrSomelauw, make sure you have the option of "install third party, proprietary drivers on"18:53
streulmaericP: download de Virtualbox deb ? and install with sudo dpkg -i file.deb ?18:53
linusBD_Penguincsc: except install a Lexmark z705 -__-18:53
ericPxangua, ose, roger -- what's "ose", btw?18:53
SomelauwOh, wait there is a package nvidia-current18:53
streulmaericP: then you can do like sudo apt-get -f install for the rest18:54
Ek|mu5Penguincsc: could have done it with the gui tool but didn't want to install it do only that thing. Also some learning with the new stuff. Kinda felt dated when I tried to do it with gconftool :)18:54
EaglemanPenguincsc http://pastebin.com/SZs1D9Ut18:54
xanguaericP: forget what i said, i thought you couldn't find it and virtualbox-ose is just a transitional package for virtualbox; if you have to install 70 firefo to install it do it...those are called dependencies18:54
EaglemanAlso i'm installing 4.0 but what about the latest version?18:54
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Somelauwblackcatnekonegr: Well, it's ON18:55
chkneaterUbotto, also alot of internet tough guys hide behind linguistics and not not logic, it would have taken a lot less time and energy tho I'm sure you could use it after all18:55
xanguaericP: i'm using ubuntu 12.04 but it only suggest me to install not more than 10 extra packages18:55
ericPxangua, actually "virtualbox" *conflicted* with around 70, i presume because of ia32 stuff18:55
blackcatnekonegrSomelauw, try with this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia18:55
ericPnow trying -ose18:55
PenguincscEagleman: what version of Ubuntu Server?18:55
Eagleman12.0418:56
ericPxangua, yup, -ose worked perfectly18:56
PenguincscEagleman: is it up to date?18:56
Eaglemanyes18:56
blackcatnekonegrSomelauw, well, try to find Nvidia in Synaptic and install the newest version abaliable.18:57
chkneaterCan ANYONE answer a question unpretentiously that is NOT in any of the MAN pages or other PPA's?18:57
Eaglemanchange deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib to deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian precise contrib  ?18:57
Somelauwwhat's the difference between apt-get and jockey-text?18:57
Somelauwblackcatnekonegr: done18:57
blackcatnekonegrSomelauw, Synaptic seems to be the mostly error free way to install stuff in  ubuntu 12.04 for now.18:58
sipiorchkneater: if you're going to cop an attitude right at the beginning, i'm guessing you won't get too many takers.18:58
stuengasking if somone can answer a question but asking the question is fail tbh18:58
stuengnot*18:59
zanberdochkneater, firstly, ubotto is a bot, so lecturing it on how to answer question is sorta silly. The point that was being made was that you should just ask your questions and don't ask to ask. If you have a specific question that someone can answer, they will.18:59
stuenganyhooo.. .anyone know might cause a CIFS mount to occasionally go permission denied then come back RW a few mins later?18:59
blackcatnekonegrSomelauw, make sure to remove Nouveau, make sure no more that one driver is installed, then you need to reboot19:00
PenguincscEagleman: did you add the official Virtualbox repo from here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads19:01
zanberdostueng, have you checked your logs to see if you can see anything? I us CIFS mounts daily and haven't run into that specific issue, but I know if can be problematic at times.19:01
little_girlhalp19:01
PenguincscEagleman: scroll downd and copy the first line - for precise19:01
stuengzanberdo: is there something more robust than fstab cifs mounts ?19:01
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zanberdostueng, more robust? I can't say. I have my cifs mount configured in fstab though, and it's fairly stable.  It might help if you shared your parameters (omit any passwords)19:02
zanberdostueng, for instance, one of my mounts looks like: //ha-server/general /mnt/ha-server/general cifs _netdev,auto,owner,rw,username=mark,password=********,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 019:03
stuengzanberdo: /source/share /media/mountpoint user=,password=,gid=1001 0 019:03
PenguincscEagleman: ?19:03
mischiefhello, i'm on amazon ec2 with ubuntu 11.10 and i need to get glibc 2.14. but it seems glibc 2.13 is the only one in the repo. anyone know how i could get glib 2.14?19:03
mischiefglibc**19:04
EaglemanPenguincsc19:04
stuengzanberdo: what do _netdev ; auto ; owner do ?19:04
zanberdostueng, note the use of _netdev in mine - I use this option to ensure the mount occurs after the network is established so I don't wait for days during the bood...19:04
zanberdos/bood/boot19:04
stuengk19:04
PenguincscEagleman: scroll down and copy the first line - for precise19:04
PenguincscEagleman: did you add the official Virtualbox repo from here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads19:04
Eaglemanyes i just did19:04
PenguincscEagleman: now did you try to install it?19:05
zanberdostueng, honestly, I'll have to check man to be able to tell you what auto and owner parameters do (set this up over a year ago...)19:05
EaglemanPenguincsc precise isnt working since the latest is oneiric19:05
Eaglemanthere is no such package for precise19:05
EaglemanE: Package 'virtualbox-4.0' has no installation candidate19:06
CoJaBoEagleman: ..wait, wat19:06
linusBD_please... someone tell me how I can install my printer...19:06
CoJaBolinusBD_: What brand?19:06
linusBD_Lexmark19:06
PenguincsclinusBD_: What printer?19:07
streulmaEagleman: try virtualbox-4.119:07
PenguincsclinusBD_: model?19:07
linusBD_Lexmark z70519:07
Eaglemanstreulma still not working19:07
CoJaBolinusBD_: Option A) Pawn it for any other brand; Option B) Install WinXP in a virtual machine and install the drivers from their site.19:07
PenguincscEagleman: just run apt-get update and then apt-cache search virtualbox|grep server19:07
blackcatnekonegr linusBD_, first make sure you have the needed print packages installed, then check if it has as linux driver, if it doesn't you will have to use a generic.19:07
amh345Pici: im sorry to be a bother about this stuff. but PCI are being really anal.  they're asking for version nubmers and all that stuff to prove that it's patched.  can you link me to the CVE tracker post? or something that has that info?19:07
EaglemanI've added this line: deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian precise contrib non-free to  /etc/apt/sources.list19:07
amh345as an aside. there are a lot of people posting about PCI and this issue.  it would be great for a callout somewhere19:07
EaglemanE: Package 'virtualbox-4.1' has no installation candidate19:08
yashyI was doing a do-release-upgrade remotely when I was disconnected. When I reconnected, it said there was no upgrade. When I do apt-get dist-upgrade it says to do a -f install. When I do that, I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/HabgYs8P19:08
linusBD_ok! tx!19:08
PenguincsclinusBD_: what version of Ubuntu?19:08
CoJaBolinusBD_: Srsly tho, Lexmark printers have the worst Linux support of almost any hardware out there -_-'19:08
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linusBD_CoJaBo yeah... I can see that... :(19:09
PenguincscCoJaBo: did you manage?19:09
linusBD_Penguincsc: Ubuntu 12.0419:09
blackcatnekonegrlinusBD_, you can try a generic, but don't expect miracles19:09
CoJaBoEagleman: Does VirtualBox really not run on Precise?19:09
PenguincsclinusBD_: what happens when you plug it in? does it show up on the right?19:09
webroastersi just deleted some files from my machine, and I happen to need them. is there any way of recovering them?19:09
Piciamh345: You can point them to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2012/CVE-2012-0883.html19:09
ubottuenvvars (aka envvars-std) in the Apache HTTP Server before 2.4.2 places a zero-length directory name in the LD_LIBRARY_PATH, which allows local users to gain privileges via a Trojan horse DSO in the current working directory during execution of apachectl. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2012-0883)19:09
linusBD_blackcatnekonegr I tried... doens't work :(19:09
linusBD_Penguincsc: no, nothing happens19:10
mischiefhello, i'm on amazon ec2 with ubuntu 11.10 and i need to get glibc 2.14. but it seems glibc 2.13 is the only one in the repo. anyone know how i could get glibc 2.14?19:10
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webroastersbetter stated, how do i recover them?19:10
CoJaBolinusBD_: Is it a multifunction or just a printer?19:10
amh345pici if this issue has never affected 2.2 why was it listed as an issue?  this is what im not understanding19:10
OerHeksEagleman after adding a ppa : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade19:10
linusBD_CoJaBo: just a simple printer19:10
blackcatnekonegrlinusBD_, ok, plug it in, turn the printer on and leave only ONE PAGE in it, then try to print some text19:10
webroastersplease someone help, i'm going crazy here19:10
CoJaBolinusBD_: Pawn or donate it and buy a new one, HPs are supposed to be well supported; its not worth the effort, trust me on that, heh.19:11
linusBD_CoJaBo: hehe... ok then19:11
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PenguincscSamsung printers are great with Linux too19:11
linusBD_blackcatnekonegr: ok, I'll try... hang on19:11
CoJaBolinusBD_: I have an expensive MFC model that I have to run the Windows drivers in Windows XP under a virtual machine.19:12
YoungLadFavorite Ubuntu Distro everyone19:12
streulmaEagleman: problem solved :)19:12
drecuteplease in the name of God, I need help with nis authentication19:12
zanberdowebroasters, I don't have a specific answer for you, as there are a number of issues to consider, but a quick search on google lead me to http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linuxunix-recover-deleted-files.html - see if that helps.19:12
wilee-nileepolling, polling, polling19:12
drecutehere's my nsswitch file: http://codepad.org/Ge5gGa3V19:12
CoJaBolinusBD_: If you're lucky, you might get it to print plain-text, but thats all I could get working, even with the latest Linuz drivers.19:12
webroastersthank you zanberdo19:13
linusBD_CoJaBo: a little unconfortable, I guess19:13
zanberdolinusBD_, brother are also very well supported, and inexpensive19:13
newbie|2hello world19:13
blackcatnekonegrUbuntu 10.04.4 LTS (Lucid Lynx)19:13
tuxedoIve been try to install ubuntu 12.04 ppc on my power mac g4 and gave device error19:13
blackcatnekonegrmosrtly because of all the troubles Ubuntu 10.10 have me19:13
zanberdowebroasters, you will find that deleted file recovery can be very challenging and you have to be very delicate with your machine19:13
Piciamh345: It was never an issue for us because we happen to apply a patch to the source package that prevents the situation from occurring. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276670 should be helpful to explain why debian (and therefore us) uses that patch.19:14
ubottuDebian bug 276670 in apache2-common "apache2-common: /usr/share/apache2/build/envvars should be a symlink to /etc/apache2/envvars" [Wishlist,Fixed]19:14
PenguincscCoJaBo: were you successful with the USB creator?19:14
yashyI was doing a do-release-upgrade remotely when I was disconnected. When I reconnected, it said there was no upgrade. When I do apt-get dist-upgrade it says to do a -f install. When I do that, I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/HabgYs8P  Any help is appreciated!19:14
streulmaguys, I have Eagleman problem solved :)19:15
blackcatnekonegrok, bye19:15
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Yeh, someone in here was having trouble with VBox- I had to search to make sure that wasn't a common issue before going any further.19:15
CoJaBoPenguincsc: It does not boot from the thumbdrive.19:15
Penguincscyashy: try sudo aptitude dist-upgrade19:16
TheShrubPenguincsc: Does ur pc support booting off USB-disks?19:16
TheShrubPenguincsc: If not then youre just wasting ur time19:16
tuxedohello_???19:16
PenguincscTheShrub: you mean CoJaBo19:16
TheShrubsorry19:16
TheShrubsaw the name behinf19:17
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Dunno what else to try, guess I'm just stuck with jaunty :/19:18
PenguincscCoJaBo: you used Usb Creator on a new thumb drive, turned the laptop off, then on again, pressed the F12 on the POST screen and choose USB - and what happened?19:18
hrolfHey #ubuntu I have a PDF file which I can access fine in Windows but when I open the same file in Ubuntu (Document Viewer) it asks for a password.19:18
yashyPenguincsc: Thanks, will do!19:19
tuxedoI ve been trying to run ubuntu 12.04 ppc on my power mac g419:19
i2out3rwhat's the catch with using aptitude to search for a package to install, then installing it with aptitude install, as opposed to apt-get install?19:19
CoJaBoPenguincsc: There is no USB option on the f12 screen, only boot priority list. Set it as the only option, it just says there is no boot device.19:19
PenguincscCoJaBo: why not run an upgrade directly from within Jaunty?19:19
hrolfFrom where do I find the password now? Why was it working fine without a password in XP?19:19
mcphaili2out3r: aptitude isn't a standard part of ubuntu any more19:19
Jordan_U!aptitude | i2out3r19:19
ubottui2out3r: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.19:19
tuxedoand gave an error on video device19:19
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Because the package manager is non-functional19:20
i2out3rmcphail: so is there an apt-get equivalent to "aptitude search" because i find that handy19:20
mcphaili2out3r: apt-cache search19:20
i2out3rah ok19:20
i2out3rthanks19:20
i2out3rso apt-cache search should be used instead of aptitude these days?19:21
Sazpaimon"these days"19:21
sam555hello all!19:21
Sazpaimonapt-cache has been around forever19:21
mcphaili2out3r: apt-cache search, apt-cache show and apt-cache policy are all useful commands19:22
OerHeksCoJaBo, some machines need to set boot-order in 2 places, boot device & hdd priority19:22
Sazpaimonif my dpkg status file somehow gets destroyed, would it make sense to try and partially restore it using /usr/share/doc?19:22
CoJaBoOerHeks: This only has one level.19:22
Sazpaimonthen having dselect reinstall all the packages19:22
i2out3rWell, that's settled it then, I'll use apt-cache from now on, thanks for the advice19:23
PenguincscCoJaBo: try: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install update-manager-core, sudo do-release-upgrade19:23
sam555how do you figure out what release you have of ubuntu in command line?19:23
CoJaBoPenguincsc: It errors out19:23
webroastersi'm using photorec, and when i tell it a particular folder to scan, it ends up creating a bunch of folders with files that I know aren't something from that folder19:23
webroastershow i can make photorec just focus on one folder alone19:23
amh345Pici, that you very much for all the information.  and helping to better understand how this works.   i've submitted my appeal19:23
mcphaili2out3r: if you are using 32 bit ubuntu there's nothing stopping you installing and using aptitude. I also use aptitude on 64-bit but that is now frowned-upon19:24
Sazpaimonsam555, i can't remember where ubuntu puts its ubuntu_release file, but I know you can just do something like cat /etc/apt/sources.list and see what name shows up in the urls19:24
sam555Sazpaimon: thanks!19:24
xanguasam555: lsb_release -a19:24
PenguincscCoJaBo: you have an external USB CD drive?19:24
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Yes; it does not boot from that either.19:25
schultzawhat's wrong with aptitude on 64?19:25
mcphailschultza: can't handle multiarch, apparently19:25
sam555Sazpaimon: I found it!19:25
JoniiHey, for some reason on my zenbook, if I close the lid of my laptop, my ubuntu 12.4 locks itself19:25
PenguincscCoJaBo: turn off the laptop, connect the drive and make sure it is on 9if it has a power switch) then turn on the laptop and press F1219:25
zanberdoon the subject of apt vs aptitude, it's my understanding that there is generally no difference - which is to say that where aptitude was prized by some for it's ability to automatically remove dependencies when apt-get would not, apt-get now has a switch "autoremove" which performs the same function. Other than that, aptitude and the various apt- incarnations are pretty much the same.  NOTE: I still use aptitude out of habit.19:26
JoniiOr, at least, it asks for password after this19:26
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Thats what i did19:26
JoniiIs there a way to make it stop doing that?19:26
PenguincscCoJaBo: put the Ubuntu 12.04 cd in it19:26
linusBD_yeah... this damn printer really doesn't work here... I'm gonna sell it and buy a new HP printer... tx, anyway!19:26
sam555I'm running ubuntu 9.04 32 bit server and having problems running this command line ---->sudo apt-get install apcupsd apcupsd-cgi 19:26
TheLordOfTime!9.04 | sam55519:26
ubottusam555: Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) was the tenth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: October 23, 2010. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.19:26
PenguincscCoJaBo: try updating the BIOS19:27
CoJaBoPenguincsc: It is. It doesn't even blink or spin up before declaring there is no OS found.19:27
TheLordOfTimesam555: if you're on 9.04, y ou should upgrade to at least 10.0419:27
zanberdolinusBD_, consider a brother as they are very well supported19:27
zanberdolinusBD_, just my two-cents19:27
CoJaBoPenguincsc: I don't think I have a feasible way of doing that.19:27
linuxius1hi! when I try to connect to the serial device connected to the USB Port with minicom (terminal: sudo minicom) i get an i/o error. does anyone know a solution?19:27
zanberdosam555, have you changed your repo source to reflect old-releases?19:28
PenguincscCoJaBo: if the update is windows only, use Hirens BootCD19:28
linusBD_zanberdo LOL19:28
JoniiI mean, is it a bug that I keep getting my password asked?19:28
CoJaBoPenguincsc: You see the problem there, right?19:28
JoniiI have set it so that nothing happens when I close the lid19:28
PenguincscCoJaBo: that's how I did it19:28
mcphaillinuxius1: run "sudo minicom -s" and alter the settings?19:28
CoJaBoPenguincsc: The machine will not boot from CD. I cannot update the bios from a boot CD so that it can boot from a boot CD.19:28
sam555zanberdo: yes and turns out just running asudo apt-get install apcupsd worked19:29
* Penguincsc hits himself on the forehead19:29
zanberdosam555, since 9.04 is no longer supported (2 years for non-LTS releases) you will have to chance your /etc/apt/sources.list servers to old-releases (there are notes on ubuntu site to this effect, just search for ubuntu and old-releases).19:29
Penguincsc;-)19:29
sam555TheLordOfTime: currently updating to 12.04 on another machine19:29
CoJaBo-_-'19:29
sam555zanberdo: going to19:29
Cerrdorhow can I change my local hostname?19:29
PriceyJonii: I think there's a setting in the gnome screensaver settings...19:29
Beatstreetcan someone help me a RAID5 that won't boot and I have to reassemble everytime when I boot into ubuntu Desktop from CD19:29
JoniiPricey: how does that work?19:29
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zanberdoCerrdor, should be able to just edit /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname though if you have postfix installed you will have to edit /etc/mailname and possible /etc/postfix/main.cf... but in general that should cover you19:30
linuxius1mcphail: the device name is /dev/ttyACM0... what else could I change to get it working?  bps/Par/bits?19:30
tomatto_some software which use 1394 camera and make some virtual webcam?19:30
PriceyJonii: Pretty sure there's a setting there about when you close the lid, it'll lock the screen/activate screensaver.19:30
zanberdoBeatstreet, mdadm or dmraid?19:30
Beatstreetmdadm19:30
DarkenvyI am having the hardest time installing sun-java6-jre package on ubuntu12. Where did it go? I must have followed like 5 guides on the iternet with no success19:30
PriceyJonii: Annoyingly, I forget how to get there on 12.04, go to system settings in the unity search menu, or search for screensaver.19:31
Cerrdorawesome zanberdo appreciate it19:31
mcphaillinuxius1: my experience with serial devices has been simple trial and error. You'd probably be better getting help from someone sensible!19:31
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Hm, the netbook does not boot from the USB disk either19:31
zanberdoBeatstreet, and when you boot the array is degraded I presume?  Has it had a chance to completely rebuild before you boot it?19:31
Joniicuriously, there does not seem to be a menu item like screen saver anywhere on my system19:31
linuxius1mcphail: ok, thanks anyway!!19:31
pertutatisrhythmbox don't get album artwork from the internet, any idea? I already have the plugin checked19:31
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Is there another way to create it? I'm guessing the tool from the older version I have is not working on the newer version...19:31
zanberdoCerrdor, no problem. However, you may want to do a little  research to be sure there aren't other apps dependent on your hostname.19:32
Cerrdorzanberdo, when I edit the name does it have to be site.com. or just site.com?19:32
Beatstreetzanberdo - all I get is unknown filesystem and a grub rescue prompt19:32
Cerrdorhow would I check that?19:32
the_copsI have all your IPs logged19:33
PriceyJonii: Also, check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/95295/how-to-prevent-screen-locking-when-lid-is-closed19:33
zanberdoCerrdor, insofar as I know you can name your host pretty much anything you like but double check me on that19:33
Beatstreetwhen I boot into Desktop from CD-ROM - RAID doesnt show there either so I --assemble and both md0 and md1 come up fine19:33
arooni-mobile__somehow i have a zoom box that encloses the cursor position;  i didnt want this  and i'd like to get rid of it.  how can i?19:33
zanberdoBeatstreet, ah then your issue may be related more to grub rather than your disk (I'm shooting in the dark here).  I presume you are running grub2 and not grub-legacy?19:33
Beatstreetwhat every comes with 11.04 server19:34
xanguaarooni-mobile__: sounds like a zoom plugin from compiz and that you were playing with compiz settings manager ;)19:34
PenguincscCoJaBo: it says in the manual you have to go to the boot sequence page in the BIOS and press space on each device you want to enable19:34
CoJaBoPenguincsc: It wont boot from the USB stick because it is currupt somhow.19:34
arooni-mobile__xangua, i dont remember setting it up;19:34
Beatstreetzanberdo - I had the box booted yesturday but I tried to replace faulty drive and RAID will not come up on it's own now19:34
zanberdoBeatstreet, it's important to know as they are very different. 11.04 comes with grub2 IIRC.19:34
arooni-mobile__xangua, id like to get rid of it; but enhanced desktop zoom doesnt show anything19:35
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Is there another way to create it without relying on software installed on the host PC that is itslef outdaed?19:35
PenguincscCoJaBo: connect the pendrive before you turn on the laptop, enter the BIOS (F2) and try19:35
xanguaarooni-mobile__: then open compiz settings manager and disable it¿19:35
JoniiPricey: that's for gnome 3 and some different screen saver handler thing19:35
CoJaBoPenguincsc: It wont boot from the USB stick because it is currupt somhow.19:35
xanguaarooni-mobile__: doesn't show up in compiz¿¿ then it may be Orca19:36
PenguincscCoJaBo: do you have another Ubuntu, maybe 11.04?19:36
zanberdoBeatstreet, sounds like you have both a degraded array AND an issue with grub[2] mounting the array to boot.  Let me think a moment19:36
JoniiI have standard unity 12.419:36
PriceyJonii: oh bah i didn't read that first line19:36
Jordan_UCoJaBo: You can dd the Ubuntu 12.04 iso directly to the flash drive (whiping all existing contents on the drive!).19:36
ericPi'm running xfce, which has a panel dingus for managing the network. it doesn't have one for speaker control. gnome-control-center doesn't even have a sound icon (in fact, only has 5 icons)19:36
Beatstreetzanberdo - when I get the RAIDs up in Desktop, both are clean19:36
_numbersis there an easy way to switch between speakers and headphones?19:36
Beatstreetnot degraded19:36
PenguincscCoJaBo: why do you think it is corrupt?19:36
PriceyJonii: I still have a feeling its using gnome-screensaver though..19:36
ericPif i add indicator, i get a sound controller in the panel, and the control-center has a sound icon19:36
ericPhowever, networkmanager now has two masters and gets all confused19:37
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Because it does not boot on the netbook, which I know can boot from them.19:37
arooni-mobileok got rid of it!  wooh!19:37
PenguincscCoJaBo: what OS o you have on the netbook?19:37
ericPi've been running for a couple months installing indicator only when i want to change the volume or sound device, then removing it19:38
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Older Kubuntu19:38
PenguincscCoJaBo: what version?19:38
zanberdoBeatstreet, ok, so then I'd start looking at grub2.  Unfortunately for you my system is configured with grub-legacy so I'm afraid I won't be much help, but grub2 is well documented and I'm sure you will find that there are a few tools you can use to ensure grub2 is loading the right modules and is able to access your raid array during boot.  If I find something I'll post here19:38
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Did you see / understand my message about using dd?19:38
CoJaBoJordan_U: I can?19:38
Darkenvyanyone know how to install sun-java6-jre package? repo?19:38
PenguincscDarkenvy: what version of Ubuntu?19:39
derpdoodleyaoo19:39
derpdoodlewhat does this do :   l_wk1 = (l_wk1 < 0)?0 : ( (l_wk1 > (unsigned short)0xffff)?(unsigned short)0xffff : l_wk1 );19:39
Darkenvyubuntu12.0419:39
shaneohey guys when trying to connect to a local wordpress address it just downloads a file instead of going to home page what do i do to fix this19:39
DarkenvyI have a DIFFERENT install of ubuntu12.04 and installed sun-java6-jre when it was ubuntu10.04 and it works fine. but a FRESH install of ubuntu12.04 I have tried everything and cant find it anywhere19:40
PenguincscDarkenvy: try these: http://www.webupd8.org/p/ubuntu-ppas-by-webupd8.html19:40
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Yes, you can dd a 12.04 iso directly to a drive to make said drive a bootable liveUSB. (again, this will destroy all exiting data on the drive).19:40
xanguaDarkenvy: oracle java is no longer on oficial repositories19:40
PenguincscDarkenvy: there's one for Java19:40
JoniiThis is over my head. I thought unity was different branch of gnome, renamed and all, and so it seems weird that gnome screensaver things have so much to do with how unity handles locking screen when closing lid19:40
kurtwp_Darkenvy: here you go http://paste.org/4989219:41
Darkenvyhow do I add the repo?19:41
trismderpdoodle: looks like it pins the value between 0 and 0xffff, not really on topic to the room though, maybe try ##c19:41
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kurtwp_Darkenvy: That what I did on a new install of 12.04 desktop19:42
zanberdoderpdoodle, your question isn't relevant to ubuntu specifically I presume. however, looking at the line of code it appears to be a trinary operation evaluating the value of l_wk1 in which it's set to 0 if l_wk1 is <0, of 0xffff if l_wk1 > 0xffff or simply left alone. It's a range checker.19:42
Darkenvyokay trying now19:42
kurtwp_Darkenvy: you can ignore the apt xchat19:42
SafariMonkeyHi, is there any way to easily close multiple (but not all) (chrome) windows from unity, like MMB in Win7(e.g. mmb when viewing window 'grid' to close instead of open)??19:42
CoJaBoJordan_U: Trying that now; wonder why that wouldn't have turned up on Google tho, seems rediculously easy....19:42
bibiboI have notebook DELL Latitude D620 and I have e problem with soundcard. I use Ubuntu 12.04.No sound from speaker. Please. help19:43
Jordan_UCoJaBo: To make sure you're doing it properly, what is the exact dd command you're using / planning to use?19:43
CerrdorI can add a user to super users with visudo right?19:44
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xanguaSafariMonkey: if you unity with compiz you can enable scale addons plugins to show windows like mac and close them with the middle mouse button19:44
CoJaBoJordan_U: dd if=/path/to/.iso of=/dev/sdg bs=1M19:45
Jordan_UCerrdor: Yes, but you should just add them to the proper group instead.19:45
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Looks good.19:45
Cerrdorhow so?19:45
SafariMonkeyxangua, is 'show like mac' different from normal behavior?19:46
Darkenvykurtwp_: not a key id: skipping (when adding ppa)19:46
xanguaSafariMonkey: it scales the open windows....scale plugin :P19:47
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Jordan_UCerrdor: On a default install of Ubuntu, /etc/sudoers is configured to allow any user who is a member of either the "sudo" group or the "admin" group to use sudo.19:47
shaneohi guys if puring wordpress to setup from their official package if i do a purge will it uninstall all deps19:48
xanguaSafariMonkey: not using compiz right now but i believe that if you clic on the launcher icon while several instances of the same app are running it will scale just them, repeat i believe19:48
PenguincscCoJaBo: good luck19:48
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SafariMonkeyxangua, I enabled it and unity is functional except launcher doesn't reveal...19:49
PenguincscJordan_U: good catch - how didn't I think of it?19:49
daviddoriaAfter I upgraded to 12.04, a little thermometer icon (with sensor temperatures, etc) appeared. I can't figure out how to stop it from starting at startup19:49
* lorax_ needs help with mp3wrap...anyone savvy?19:49
daviddoriaI guess it is called psensor19:49
schultzahow do you start a service?19:50
SafariMonkeyxangua, and drop-downs don't drop.19:50
Penguincscschultza: which one?19:50
tuxedono one can help me?19:50
schultzaasterisk19:50
Penguincsctuxedo: what's the problem?19:50
xangualauncher doesn't reveal... - did you disable the Unity plugin SafariMonkey ¿19:50
w30what program do I need to resolve network:/// in my file browser window? I forgot what it was and I need it for another box.19:50
tuxedoIve  been trying to run ubuntu 12.04 on a power mac g419:50
SafariMonkeyno.19:51
Penguincscschultza: sudo service asterisk start?19:51
tuxedoand gave me the error of video driver19:51
lm_Hi thank you for helping: java jre exists for ubuntu? or i must install openjdk development?19:51
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Penguincsctuxedo: and what is the problem?19:51
lorax_does anyone here know the program mp3wrap? the online tutorials don't cover my issue for some reason, and it's probably something really simple and easy...19:51
markk__testing19:52
eli9Hi thank you for helping: java jre exists for ubuntu? or i must install openjdk development?19:52
SafariMonkeylauncher seems to exist, as when I alt-tab the icon pops out from where it would be. Drop-downs also highlight on click but don't do anything...19:52
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tuxedotell me this19:52
mbuckoi have ubuntu 10.04 and it goes to black screen on startup but i can run the desktop successfully by booting into bash and using startx to load up the GUI. Any idea why this is?19:52
* lorax_ needs help with mp3wrap...anyone?19:53
eli9ok i just confirmed it exists.19:53
tuxedohold on19:53
SafariMonkeyxangua, any ideas, or should I forget it and revert my profile? takes ages, but it's easier than no unity launcher19:54
SafariMonkeysee prev msgs19:54
eli9does anyone here receive the message dev/mapper/cryptswap on ubuntu boot?19:55
tuxedotell me19:55
xanguaSafariMonkey: i don't see pm, they don't even get to me19:55
Pricey!java | eli919:55
ubottueli9: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.19:55
tuxedoyour screen, graphics card, and imput device setting coul not be detectec correctly19:55
tuxedodo I have to change the screen_19:56
SafariMonkeyxangua, soz, no pm, just an unadressed message, so I didn't know if you'd seen: "launcher seems to exist, as when I alt-tab the icon pops out from where it would be. Drop-downs also highlight on click but don't do anything..."19:56
MediaWorkhi19:56
xanguaSafariMonkey: so the launcher is set to autohide¿19:57
BlueWolfHi, I have a .bin file in my downloads how would I run it (  ~/Downloads/xr_setup-1.0rc3-cl_lin_prod.bin ) is this how I would do it I have forgotten all about this? Is this correct?19:57
MediaWorkehm how do I get my vlc to play dvds?19:57
eli9thank you much Pricey i believe the second implementation (the plugin) does not work in my ubuntu 11.1019:57
xangua!dvd | MediaWork19:57
ubottuMediaWork: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:57
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Priceyeli9: What doesn't work?19:57
eli9the other 2 do including development19:57
SafariMonkeyxangua, well I can't change stuff like that because it's dropdown, but yeah19:58
eli9the java plugin at that help.ubuntu.com page19:58
kurtwp_Darkenvy: Did you install Java19:58
PenguincscDarkenvy: did you add the PPA from Webupd8?19:58
PenguincscDarkenvy: it's super easy19:59
Penguincsc\19:59
eli9the second one.19:59
PenguincscDarkenvy: that's how I did it19:59
Darkenvykurtwp_ it said "not a key id: skipping"20:00
eli9well i got 11.10 maybe that is why Pricey20:00
schultzaset auto_away off20:01
DuxBHi, can anyone give me any ideas as to why my bios is reporting that I've overclocked my cpu from 2.67 to 3.20 but ubuntu is reporting that my upper limit is 2.67 still?20:01
schultzaset auto-away off20:01
Priceyeli9: What doesn't work about it?20:01
PriceyDuxB: overclocked in the bios settings?20:01
kurtwp_Darkenvy: oh I did not get that message20:01
DuxBPricey: yes20:01
Darkenvy"could not be verified because the public key is not available"20:01
MediaWorkxangua: thanks20:01
PriceyDuxB: Have you gone back to check the settings held?20:01
Darkenvywhen I try to repload the list20:01
DuxBPricey: several times20:01
PenguincscCoJaBo: did the dd work?20:01
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GalvatronDuxB: Where do you check the CPU frequency?20:02
Darkenvywhats the ignore key command?20:02
eli9well it says it doesnt exist in the software center Pricey20:02
PriceyDuxB: What is reporting it?20:02
chadifolks, I want a window list in unity. Is this possible?20:03
DuxBPricey: cpufreq-info, /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies20:03
DuxBPricey: and /proc/cpuinfo20:03
SafariMonkeyyou know what, xangua, I'll just leave it and reset my compiz profile.  (turning off scaling doesn't help)20:04
DuxBPricey: and system-monitor20:04
Galvatronchadi: No, but you can use "Scale" Compiz plugin to greatly improve window switching.20:04
PriceyDuxB: I give up.20:05
eli9well it says it doesnt exist in the software center Pricey20:05
chadiGalvatron: okay, but i love unity as it is, and I want window list. Can this be done via a 3rd party plugin or something?20:05
Darkenvywhy is it so hard to add sun-java6-jre?!20:06
DarkenvyI am close to paying someone to installing it20:06
DuxBPricey: well, thanks for at least responding20:06
concrete_Darkenvy, Sun Java is Out man use Oracle Java20:06
DuxBPricey: it's more than I've gotten other places20:06
Priceyeli9: Ah so you haven't even installed it?20:06
Darkenvy??? explain concrete_20:06
PenguincscDarkenvy: did you add the PPA I sent you?20:06
Darkenvywhat happened to sun?20:06
PriceyDuxB: Meh... annoyingly I'm not even on my ubuntu laptop atm20:06
SafariMonkeyGalvatron, have you ever had launcher cease to reveal from turning thart on? I am having that problem. (plus drop-downs don't work)20:06
concrete_Darkenvy, Where have you been Sun is DEAD Oracle owns Java tech now20:07
xanguaDarkenvy: oracle buy it and changed the licences20:07
Darkenvythat ppa penguincsc would not add because of invalid key20:07
kurtwp_Darkenvy: they were bought by Oracle20:07
PriceyDuxB: I assume you're not dual booting?20:07
DuxBDarkenvy: it was purchased by oracle20:07
xangua!gpgerr | Darkenvy20:07
ubottuDarkenvy: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »20:07
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DuxBPricey: I am, but I rarely if ever use windows20:07
DarkenvyI tried that and it said unsafe ownership of file20:07
SafariMonkeyxangua, is resetting thye best option?20:07
PenguincscDarkenvy: follow this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html20:08
PriceyDuxB: This is a crappy idea... but boot into windows and see what that says?20:08
GalvatronSafariMonkey: As you speak about it, yes, I'd have such issues prior to swiching to Kubuntu20:08
xanguaSafariMonkey: not sure why the Unity laucnhe/plugins disabled, is it enabled¿20:08
concrete_Darkenvy, If you are having problems install Oracle Java try this http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux20:08
Galvatron*I'd had20:08
DuxBPricey: worth trying20:08
PriceyDuxB: If that has the overclocked values, we can be pretty sure hardware is fine, ubuntu needs kicking20:08
GalvatronBut I han  never linked tom to "Scale"20:08
Priceydueyfins-: wheras if that also shows the original stuff, there might be something else wrong...20:08
Priceybah20:09
concrete_Oracle Java is so easy to install20:09
PenguincscDarkenvy: follow this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html20:09
SafariMonkeyxangua, when unity breaks it usually leaves me worse off than this. and unity doesn't have a tick-box...20:09
GalvatronInstead I had decided that Unity + the development Compiz is way too defective/unstable and went for KDE 4.820:09
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fazlist20:11
SafariMonkeyGalvatron, I find as long as I avoid certain combos, it's usually fairly stable. I haven't figured rotate cube out yet, though.20:11
concrete_Penguincsc, Don't always relay on some one else's potentially buggy script learn to install Oracle Java manually just in case things go wrong http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux20:11
guntbertfaz: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».20:12
SafariMonkeyfyi I have i7 950, gtx 460, 6gb ram20:12
shaneohi guys everytime i try to connect to anything running on apache2 it just downloads the php file instead of loading the page any suggestion20:12
nemohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/795038/comments/1020:13
concrete_Galvatron, I have heard so many people complain about Unity that is why I am waiting until the first point release of Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS after July 201220:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 795038 in unity (Ubuntu) "Using GIMP in Unity is troublesome & unintuitive " [Low,Invalid]20:13
nemoDoes anyone know how to enable these "integrated menus in titlebar" ?20:13
nemoUnity's current GIMP behaviour is really annoying20:13
shaneoin particular wordpress and phpMyAdmin20:14
xanguanemo: you mean the global menubar¿ are you using unity¿20:15
Penguincscconcrete_: It's not "someone's buggy script" Webupd8 are great and have a lot of cool stuff that works great20:15
SafariMonkeyok resetting20:15
zanberdoshaneo, attempting to access localhost? it's likely you have not installed libapache2-mod-php520:15
zanberdoor some variation of it.20:15
shaneozanberdo, ok ill check20:16
Galvatronconcrete_: As much as I like Unity, I'm waiting for 12.10 - maybe they'll finally go out of alpfa at least.20:16
Galvatronnemo: Which menus?20:16
PenguincscDarkenvy: did it work?20:16
chadiGalvatron: if I have two terminal windows, how in unity can I get a list of open terminals?20:16
shaneozanberdo, ok it wasnt installed also php5-cgi isnt installed should i install it20:17
shaneon/m20:17
Galvatronchadi: as I said, the simplest way would be astivating the "Scale" plugin20:17
zanberdoshaneo, That all depends on what you are hoping to achieve.  I am still working under the presumption that you are attempting to access your own server (localhost). It will depend on what php-cgi provides.20:17
zanberdoshaneo, ah, ok, you figured it out. cheers!20:18
Darkenvyokay20:18
chadiGalvatron: it is activated! yet, when I click on the terminal icon, I don't get them in the scale overview, but only get the last opened terminal.20:18
DarkenvyPenguincsc, "java version" returns could not find or return main class version20:18
nemoGalvatron: basically what the bug complains about. GIMP is multi-window, and is terribly unintuitive to use in Unity when unity *isn't* losing track of gimp (unity --reset seems to have helped with that for now over here)20:18
inkadnbI'm having trouble with crontabs20:18
nemoGalvatron: the bug was closed because it says that: "Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 there will be an option to have integrated menus in the titlebar (for instance see http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/ubuntu-12-04-to-ditch-global-menu/)."20:19
inkadnbIn my crontab I only have two entries both with @reboot20:19
nemoGalvatron: that would indeed fix that issue by basically restoring the per-image menu that GIMP normally has in non-Unity20:19
nemoGalvatron: I'd like to know how to enable that, if it exists at all20:19
inkadnbI'm trying to get my buildbot master and slaves to start on startup under my "buildbot" user.20:19
Darkenvygod ide rather be messing with Xorg.conf than be installing java 0_020:19
PenguincscDarkenvy: did you follow the last link I sent you?20:19
Darkenvyyes I did20:19
Darkenvywant a pastbin?20:20
PenguincscDarkenvy: did you try to install it manually before trying the HOWTO?20:20
PenguincscDarkenvy: yes20:20
DarkenvyI probably tried 5 or 6 different guides before now20:20
DarkenvyI uninstalled openjdk however20:20
xanguanemo: it didn't get to precice pangolin20:21
PenguincscDarkenvy: run sudo updatedb in a console20:21
nemoxangua: :-/ ohhhh well. there's always gnome320:21
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Darkenvyisnt that just updating sources.list with apt-get?20:21
Darkenvydone20:21
nemoxangua: I really was trying hard to get used to Unity, despite its many flaws, but that one is definitely a dealbreaker.  thanks.20:21
PenguincscDarkenvy: then dpkg -l |grep java and pastbin it20:22
inkadnbAnyone have experience with crontabs?20:22
xangua!anyone | inkadnb20:22
ubottuinkadnb: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.20:22
kRushhow do I get gnome-terminal to remember its size and position?20:23
Penguincscinkadnb: what do you need?20:23
tavlwhat is the most straightforward mode to have both 32bits and 64bits libc installed on ubuntu? couldn't find the real packages without falling in a hole of conflicts and dependencies.20:23
concrete_Galvatron, I would stick with the LTS releases of Ubuntu Linux for stability the other versions have a lot of bugs that need to be worked out20:23
inkadnbI added two @restart entries in my crontab file but they're not working. I'm trying to get my buildbot master and slaves to start under the 'buildbot' account on startup20:23
Darkenvyhttp://pastebin.com/KL82dV5d20:24
Penguincscconcrete_: 11.04 was good and stable20:24
SenvuHey I just installed ubuntu on my server, but somewhere and the end there was a question what kind of additional software I want to install (e.g openssl server or apache) I accidentily hit the wrong button, is there anyway to find out afterwoards which software was installed?20:24
Galvatronnemo: Try GIMP 2.8 from PPA with a single-window mode20:24
inkadnbnot really sure what I'm doing wrong20:24
goddardubuntu is logging me into Unity 2D even though I clicked the other Unity on login20:24
concrete_Darkenvy, Are you still trying to install Java on your system ?20:25
Darkenvyyes20:25
PenguincscDarkenvy: then dpkg -l |grep java and pastbin it20:25
inkadnbPenguincsc: Did you see my message?20:25
Darkenvyhttp://pastebin.com/KL82dV5d20:25
DarkenvyI litterally already did that guys20:25
Darkenvylook above20:25
Galvatronconcrete_: 12.04 Compiz is not even enywhere close to be stable, since the whole 0.9.x is a DEVELOPMENT line. Even the official Compiz support channel recommends swiching to the stable 0.8.x if possible.;)20:25
concrete_Follow this  guide I told you not to rely on anyone's script click this link http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux20:26
Darkenvyconcrete_ is that for me?20:26
fhtagntesting lubuntu on a live usb20:26
DarkenvyI did not use a script to install java yet20:26
fhtagnwifi appears to be working. Anything obvious I should check=20:26
fhtagnobviously my keyboard needs to be changed...20:26
concrete_Darkenvy, yes20:26
concrete_Darkenvy, It will explain everything in detail about the installation of Java on your system20:27
Darkenvythe problem is I get an error when using "java version"20:27
Darkenvy"Error: Could not find or load main class version"20:27
alankilaDarkenvy: java -version eh?20:27
PenguincscDarkenvy: just undo all you did manually and follow the guide20:27
Penguincscinkadnb: no20:28
Darkenvyjava -version returns version :)20:28
Penguincscinkadnb: I don't understand what are you trying to do20:28
Darkenvybut the GUIDE did NOT have the -verson. it said "java version"20:28
concrete_Darkenvy, java -version20:28
alankilaDarkenvy: so it was wrong. Move on.20:28
Darkenvyokay Im just stating that so you know it wasnt my fault :P20:29
kurtwp_Darkenvy: did you type java -version20:29
charlton_thanks xangua, unity must have been half-broken, so I disabled ir and did a logout-login, re-enabled it and all is well20:29
Darkenvyyes it works20:29
Darkenvylet me see if I can use java20:29
PenguincscDarkenvy: I am looking at it and it does have the -version20:29
GalvatronSpeaking of testing, I've recently discovered e4rta - a replacement for Ureadahead, which gives a real boot-time boost: http://www.howtogeek.com/69753/how-to-cut-your-linux-pcs-boot-time-in-half-with-e4rat/ The only problem is that you must re-run the procedure from time to time, especially after major updates.20:29
PenguincscDarkenvy: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html20:29
concrete_Penguincsc, He is definitely a newbie to Java20:29
chadiCan I move the close minimize maximize to the right? Please?20:29
TheVoidhow do i flush dns cache in ubuntu 10.04 lucid?20:29
Darkenvyare you looking at the same guide?20:30
Penguincscconcrete_: that is why we are here. I bet he might help us with somethin else20:30
fhtagnchadi: you can. or could. Ubuntu Tweak, i believe that is the name of the tool.20:30
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inkadnbPenguincsc: nevermind I figured it out. Enviroment variables aren't passed to crontab :|20:30
* TheVoid waits20:30
Penguincscinkadnb: glad I could help ;-)20:30
Darkenvyokay it works20:30
Darkenvythanks gys!20:30
DarkenvyIm out20:31
chadifhtagn: that moves them only in unmaximized mode. In maximized mode, they're still on the left :/20:31
GalvatronPenguincsc: All's fine, except for this Oracle/Sun Java installer being ALPHA20:31
PenguincscDarkenvy: cool. enjoy20:31
fhtagnoh, then i dunno, soz.20:31
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Darkenvy^^20:31
PenguincscGalvatron:  works fine for me20:31
TheVoidgosh i'm about to break something20:31
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erik32533ubuntu 12 10 install question20:32
PenguincscGalvatron:  all it does, is download the official java from sun. like the one for nonfree flash installer20:32
concrete_You have to expect Ubuntu Linux is filled with bugs that haven't been worked out so don't stress out when things don't work out20:32
CoJaBoPenguincsc: Dunno, it hasn't finished yet :/20:32
TheVoidughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh20:32
the_copsuse debian stable20:32
the_copsno bugs20:32
GalvatronPenguincsc: Does it remove Open JDK?20:33
erik32533seems like ubuntu 12 10 wants to freez up20:33
PenguincscCoJaBo: the dd command?20:33
TheVoidhow many damn idle people does this have to have...20:33
erik32533i can run live cd of ubuntu20:33
CoJaBoYeh, the thing is soo slow :/20:33
PenguincscGalvatron: I think it does, when it checks for dependencies20:33
khmerogim trying to install virtual box but there is 4 diffferent ones..they end in DBG, DKMS, FUSE, QT..which one do i install for kubuntu?20:33
CoJaBoLOL, I just noticed this RAM sitting here has a label on it.. "Compatible with Windows 7"20:33
TheVoidcan anyone help me20:33
TheVoid:|20:33
concrete_Even Java is filled with bugs and security issues that's why they keep releasing updates to Java20:34
PenguincscCoJaBo: might be a USB 1.1 port20:34
CoJaBoGah.20:34
xanguakhmerog: sudo apt-get install virtualbox20:34
erik32533its gets to preparing to install ubuntu it sits there20:34
erik32533how long do i wait20:34
Penguincscwhat's the proble TheVoid20:34
sintrinsicMornin' guys. Anyone have an idea why empathy would allow me to set up accounts and connect with them in the account manager, but give me an error about connecting to the Telepathy Account Manager when I try to open the contact list?20:34
MediaWorkhm20:34
fl1bbl3they fixed the packaged version of virtualbox?20:34
schultzawhich is faster? vbox or kvm?20:35
MediaWorkI want to point out something, suggest something20:35
GalvatronPenguincsc: How does Oracle compare to Open JDK?20:35
erik32533be the second ubuntu 12 cd i burned20:35
carl-ericHi - in previous ubuntu/gnome versions I could adjust the encoding pipes sound-juicer uses to encode ripped CDs. in 12.04 neither rhythmbox nor sound-juicer allow me any kind of customization anymore. How do I adjust these gstreamer settings now?20:35
TheVoidPenguincsc, I can't get my DNS cache or w/e it is to clear20:35
xtof_schultza: kvm -- slightly20:35
TheVoidon 10.04 lucid lynx20:35
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MediaWorksometime, especially with specular materials, cycle produces fireflies... which seem to be a different kind of noise to the regular noise reduction you get from increasing your samples.20:35
PenguincscTheVoid: I don't understand. decribe what are you trying to do20:36
erik32533hmmmm20:36
erik32533can someone help20:36
MediaWorkthose fireflies dont reduce in noise the same way as the rest of the image.20:36
TheVoidPenguincsc,20:36
TheVoidI've updated my DNS servers, yet it's not changing in my system20:36
TheVoidIt's different with other machines with a clean DNS cache20:37
MediaWorkdoubling the sampling I have noticed does not fix that ,  but if you render twice with different seeds, and seems also by moving your camera by a small amount.20:37
PenguincscGalvatron: I guess it supports more sites, but I bearly use java, just for browsing20:37
TheVoidIt's correct with others.20:37
concrete_Galvatron, OpenJDK is way behind on updates and security issues and bug fixes, that is why it is best to install Oracle Java20:37
kurtwp_TheVoid: did you restart or reload your bind20:37
MediaWorkyou can get rid of the fireflise much faster.20:37
TheVoidkurtwp_, heh.20:37
TheVoidhow do i do that20:37
PenguincscTheVoid: where did you update you DNS servers?20:38
Galvatronconcrete_: Thanks I guess I'll go for it then.:)20:38
TheVoidPenguincsc, i changed it from freedns to cloudflare20:38
TheVoidlol20:38
CerrdorI have phpmyadmin installed but when I go to myip/phpmyadmin its not found any ideas?20:38
PenguincscTheVoid: is this a server?20:38
TheVoidno20:38
TheVoidthis is my computer20:38
TheVoidwith a desktop version of ubuntu 10.04 lucid lync20:38
xanguaTheVoid: what he mean to say was, how did you change them¿20:38
kurtwp_TheVoid: restart your networking20:38
zanberdoCerrdor, running apache?20:38
Cerrdorapache220:39
PenguincscTheVoid: did you add it to a file or used the network manager?20:39
krysten2013i am installing ubuntu using wubi. how large should my installation size be if I plan on using ROS (robot operating system) and gazebo (robotic simulator)20:39
nemoGalvatron: I've tried it. not a fan at all20:39
RGErrDayHello20:39
TheVoidrestarted lol20:39
nemoGalvatron: I have no desire to learn a new way of using the app just because people are duplicating the limitations of less powerful window managers20:40
TheVoidit kept connection because i guess it replied/made a ping to the server in time i guess20:40
xanguakrysten2013: how long do you want it¿ wubi can't get more than 30GB i believe20:40
RGErrDayWubi isnt that good imo20:40
TheVoidstill not changed20:40
krysten2013xanguia: well i currently have 148 GB of free space, I don't want to take up too much space from my C drive20:41
GalvatronI don't recommend this thing at all - a good way to get some strange issues.20:41
zylvsd20:41
concrete_Galvatron, Do you know how to program in Android ?20:41
xangua!ot | concrete_20:41
ubottuconcrete_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:41
PenguincscTheVoid: I need to know where did you edit inthe new DNS20:41
TheVoidPenguincsc, it's updated fine, you don't really need to know where it's edited. But it's edited from dot.tk20:42
TheVoidmy server shows20:42
zanberdoCerrdor, check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default to see if there is a virtual directory configured.  You may also check /var/www to see if there is a symlink to your phpmyadmin home folder.20:42
TheVoidroot@internet:~# host viod.tk20:42
TheVoidviod.tk has address 173.245.60.14920:42
TheVoidviod.tk has address 173.245.60.5820:42
TheVoidmy pc shows nothing20:42
TheVoidand for www. it's same for server but on pc20:43
TheVoidit's not changed20:43
TheVoidwww.viod.tk has address 94.249.215.nope20:43
PenguincscTheVoid: what version of Ubuntu?20:43
TheVoidPenguincsc, 10.04 lucid lynx...20:43
goddardubuntu is logging me into Unity 2D even though I clicked the other Unity on login20:43
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PenguincscTheVoid: what's in the /etc/resolv.conf file?20:44
Cerrdorzanberdo, I dont see a symlink how do I create one?20:44
TheVoid# Generated by NetworkManager20:44
TheVoiddomain home20:44
TheVoidsearch home20:44
TheVoidnameserver 192.168.1.25420:44
FloodBot1TheVoid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:44
TheVoidPenguincsc, ^20:44
TheVoidugh it was only 4 lines20:44
TheVoid>.>20:45
CyberSixlulz20:45
TheWHATwell that's a nice bot20:45
CyberSixgood bot20:45
zanberdoCerrdor, I can't guarantee this is the correct approach! However, if you know the path to phpmyadmin home folder you can create a symlink in /var/www using: sudo ln -s /path/to/phpmyadmin /var/www/phpmyadmin20:45
h00k!botsnack20:45
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!20:45
zanberdoCerrdor, however, as I said, there is no guarantee this will work!20:46
PenguincscTheVoid: seems your DNS are managed by your gateway (router)20:46
TheVoidPenguincsc, my other local machines are resolving it correctly20:46
PenguincscTheVoid: do you know hoe to change the settings?20:46
zanberdoit presumes that apache is configured to follow symlinks, that the permissions to the path are compatible with the access requirements, that there is an index.htm[l] file in your path... there are a lot of things that have to align to be sure this works.20:46
TheVoidi wonder how it even changed to the router...20:46
TheVoidit should be set to google's dns..20:47
PenguincscTheVoid: so go into the Nework Manager and check it's right20:47
PenguincscTheVoid: is the other machine also Linux?20:47
chadiHow do I create a new instance of an app in unity without having to right click > new and without having to type the name of the app?20:48
TheVoidPenguincsc, yeah, it works fine both on windows and linux20:48
chadiis there a way to do something like shift + click?20:48
TheVoidbut not on this netbook20:48
PenguincscTheVoid: what do you get when you edit the eth0 in the network manager?20:48
TheVoidPenguincsc, nah i'm on wifi20:49
trismchadi: middle click20:49
TheVoidyay20:49
GalvatronPenguincsc: Oracle installer doesn't automatically purge Open JDK - I had to do so manually.20:49
TheVoidi set it back to google's dns and it's working now20:49
TheVoidlol20:49
TheVoidlike all my other machines20:49
TheVoidi guess i found the problem20:49
PenguincscTheVoid: what was it then?20:49
chaditrism: I don't have a middle click. I'm on a touch screen with a keyboard20:49
PenguincscGalvatron: I said "I think" I don't remember... ;-)20:50
TheVoidPenguincsc, my router was caching dns queries lol20:50
trismchadi: only combo I am aware of, sorry20:50
PenguincscTheVoid: so you restarted the router?20:50
TheVoidPenguincsc, no i changed my netbooks dns servers back to google... somehow it switched back to my routers20:51
TheVoidfixed now anyway20:51
PenguincscTheVoid: cool20:51
zanberdoTheVoid, have you considered running your own non-recursive dns such as unbound?20:51
zanberdos/non-recursive/recursive20:52
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freekyhello ?20:56
freekyhiiiiiiiiiii...20:56
ha1dfohi, i'm trying to compile a package for myself, and I wonder if you know how to ask debuild to do cross-compilation for me. -- actually no cross-build is needed since the content is just scripts files20:57
Galvatron!question | freeky20:57
ubottufreeky: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:57
donvito2!patience21:00
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/21:00
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Penguincscping21:03
* Penguincsc has to reboot post-update ;-)21:04
GalvatronEhat's going on?21:05
ompaulwhat is the correct way to add a shell script to the unity "dash home" bar21:06
ompaulwhat is the correct way to add a shell script to the unity launcher might be a better way to describe it21:08
donvito2how to install apache?21:08
the_copsgive it an extension21:08
the_copsand drag and drop21:08
the-ermDoes anyone know how to mount a usb drive via the command line?  I've tried "mount" as a user, and searched for hours on fusermount.  xfce will mount drives no problem by clicking the drive on the desktop.  I'm writing a script that should be able to mount the drive without user interaction and without root.21:09
ompaulthe-cops was that directed to me, if so please be aware the script lives in /usr/local/bin/ and is called bman.sh21:09
ShinobiDoes anyone know what I would search under to implement multiuser crud functions in a perl script? Sorry it's off topic.21:10
zanberdothe-erm, if I'm not mistaken this is handled by udev and a scrip in /etc/udev/rules.d/ but that's about the extent of what I can help with..21:10
the-ermthanks zanberdo I'll look there.21:11
cloudyHi - when doing sudo apt-get update I get a number of 404 or hashsum mismatch21:11
zanberdothe-erm, if you make any progress, let me know. This is an issue I run into from time to time and I'd love a definitive answer myself! :)21:11
OrukusakiIdle21:11
zanberdocloudy, check your /etc/apt/sources.list and any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d to be sure they are valid url's and valid repos21:12
nekrohola gente soy nuevo en xchat quisiera arrancar con esto para mantenerme un poco mas comunicado21:13
cloudyzanberdo, thank you for the information. How do I know what is valid and what is not?21:13
zanberdocloudy, hrm, good question. I guess the first thing you can do is navigate to the url and verify that it exists. if you are getting 404 you are likely pointing to outdated repos. what version of ubuntu?21:14
cloudyzanberdo, sources.list.d is empty21:14
the-ermzanberdo: the only thing I see in /etc/udev/rules.d/ is what you want your dvd to be labeled, and eth*, wlan* device naming.21:14
cloudy12.04, but for arm cpu though21:14
zanberdocloudy, having sources.list.d empty is fine. you will need to look at sources.list then. As to the url's for arm, I don't know.21:15
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zanberdothe-erm, yeah, ok, you may need to do some research on udev. sorry I can't offer more guidance21:15
cloudyzanberdo, ok, if not 404 but hashsum mismatch, what would you suggest?21:17
zanberdocloudy, that would make me think that there is something wrong with the repo I have installed, but given that you are running arm there may be another solutions.21:17
cloudyzanberdo, thank you for your time21:20
zanberdocloudy, sorry couldn't be more help. I haven't run into an issue with checksum and repos :(21:20
cloudyzanberdo, I had it lately also on my desktop install. What I did there was to switch to the main servers, ran update, no issues, then switched back to regional servers, ran update, no issues21:22
zanberdocloudy, I've done that myself and haven't run into any issues...21:23
cloudyzanberdo, I am wondering what is wrong with servers starting with de.archive21:23
charnelanybody knows where the libpg-dev is ? I cannot install it and it is not in the sources  ?21:24
cloudycharnel, checking with synaptic didn't bring it up21:25
charnelcloudy, yep tried it from the console21:26
arooni-mobilewhats the best/easiest way to search for a partial file name in a given directory?  for instance i want to return any file names that might contain the string i'm searching for21:26
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charnelarooni-mobile, grep21:26
escottarooni-mobile, find . -iname "*pattern*"21:26
trismcharnel: do you mean libpq-dev?21:27
charnelyes21:27
skylararooni-mobile `find . -name *match*` yeah21:27
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charneltrism, It does not exists21:28
charnelbut I need to install it21:29
trism!info libpq-dev | charnel21:29
ubottucharnel: libpq-dev (source: postgresql-9.1): header files for libpq5 (PostgreSQL library). In component main, is optional. Version 9.1.3-2 (precise), package size 208 kB, installed size 1140 kB21:29
trismcharnel: it is in main, if that is what you meant, (PQ not PG (lowercase of course))21:29
ubuntu_where i can download dvd image with software packages of precise ?21:29
ubuntu_i mean frm where ?21:30
charneltrism, thanks21:30
SidniciousHey, I tried following these instructions (linked from the download page) to make a Mac-bootable USB stick: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx21:31
reisioSidnicious: trying is admirable21:32
SidniciousIt didn't work, the stick doesn't show up as an option to boot from. Threads like http://askubuntu.com/questions/28495/how-do-i-get-my-mac-to-boot-from-an-ubuntu-usb-key suggest that the instructions don't work… what's up here?21:32
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myherofrm where i can download precise dvd image with software packages ?21:33
reisiomyhero: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors21:35
martinphoneis there a ppa for mkvmerge?21:36
muellimartinphone: there is search for the PPAs :-)21:36
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the-ermzanberdo: gvfs-mount -d /dev/sdd1 ... it's so simple even puts it in /media/ for you... man that took entirely too long to figure out.21:37
haxxpopwhat is the diffent between BIOS and GRUB?21:38
h00khaxxpop: BIOS is part of your motherboard, GRUB is the bootloader installed on your harddrive21:38
roflmaoYdhaxxpop: if you use grub you can change to bios by using 'sudo rm -rf /'21:38
h00k!danger21:38
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!21:38
cloudyhaxxpop, BIOS mean basic input output system and is the first piece of software that gets loaded when you power up your pc21:38
muelliwell h00k. One runs off the flash in your motherboard and the other runs off the harddisk. They both do, obviously, totally different things.21:38
GalvatronSidnicious: Have you set USB as the first boot device?21:39
h00kmuelli: yes, I'm aware21:39
reisiofurthermore, it won't change the BIOS :p21:39
SidniciousGalvatron: Macs don't have that21:39
h00k:)21:39
muellioh, sorry h00k -.-21:39
cogHello.  I don't know how to get a DVD to play.  I run 12.04 Edubuntu.21:39
muelliI meant haxxpop...21:39
GalvatronSidnicious: UEFI lacks the option to set a boot priority?21:39
GalvatronI don't believe it21:40
GalvatronCheck carefully21:40
h00kGalvatron: good call, it's not true :)21:40
heerhello21:40
SidniciousGalvatron: In Apple's implementation, you can hold down a key when you boot to list all the bootable volumes devices that the system can find, that's it. From the OS, you can set a default volume to boot from (not device, volume).21:41
Sidniciouss/volumes devices/volumes/21:41
reisioheer: goodbye21:41
haxxpopwhat is the difference between uefi and bios ?21:41
escott!dvd | cog make sure you follow these instructions21:41
ubottucog make sure you follow these instructions: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:41
reisiohaxxpop: former is fancier, but other than that not much21:41
Sidnicioush00k: care to elaborate?21:42
reisiohaxxpop: part of why Galvatron doesn't think it's missing this feature, no doubt21:43
haxxpopreisio: both're used for the same purpose, right ?21:43
escotthaxxpop, one is the minimal amount needed to boot ibm hardware, the other is substantially larger than the linux kernel21:43
ironhalikhow can I disable auto-away in Empathy?21:43
reisiohaxxpop: pretty much21:43
mouth1hi21:44
reisioironhalik: might ask #gnome21:44
reisiomouth1: hi21:44
mouth1does anybody have the samsung nc10 plus jp06 netbook?21:44
reisiomouth1: yes I'm sure some one has21:44
h00kSidnicious: on which?21:44
mouth1i wanted to ask how good does ubuntu 12.04 run on it21:45
mouth1:)21:45
reisiomouth1: nc10+jp06?21:45
haxxpopwhat do you think about secure boot feature?21:45
mouth1reisio: ??21:45
h00khaxxpop: your questions might be better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic, since they're not necessarily Ubuntu support specific21:46
haxxpoph00k: okay.21:46
h00kmouth1: check out the Ubuntu Friendly database, let me grab a link21:46
reisiohaxxpop: fairly irrelevant to most things21:46
OerHeksmouth1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NC10 looks great OOTB21:46
h00kmouth1: https://friendly.ubuntu.com/ may help21:46
Sidnicioush00k: Whether there was a way to set boot order besides choosing which volume to boot from21:47
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Galvatroncog: You'll actually have to purchase a commercial player, unless you're OK with piracy. Medibuntu includes an illegal stuff, including pirated Windows codecs and proprietary commercial DVD-plying components, which by no means are a freeware (you usually pay for them once you purchase any DVD player).21:48
h00kSidnicious: well, my motherboard has UEFI, and I have a nifty click/drag interface where I can order boot devices. It depends on what motherboard/UEFI you have.21:48
donvito2how it is possible i installed phpmyadmin but in web i cant connect to it?21:48
reisiodonvito2: maybe you have to configure it21:49
donvito2i did21:49
SidniciousI guess my base question is if there's a right way to make a bootable Ubuntu USB stick for Mac besides the instructions on the site, since I have found zero reports of anyone using those instructions successfully21:49
donvito2i reconfigure it21:49
h00kSidnicious: I'm not sure how the Macs do it :( Sorry21:49
reisioSidnicious: you mean to keep Mac OS?21:49
reisiofor a multi-boot?21:49
iLogicalI have a hercules classic webcam, it works fine in cheese, for instance. It doesn't with skype, even though i did use this command LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so said to have worked in ubuntu karmic. What do I do?21:49
OneFix_WorkAnyone here using SpaceWalk with Ubuntu?21:50
Sidnicioush00k: yeah, Apple's implementation is a little different, there's no configuration interface at all. To make a bootable Mac OS USB, you just dump the files in an appropriately-formatted partition and it shows up as an option to boot from.21:50
GalvatronSidnicious: have you already tried UNetbootin for Mac? in not, then go: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/21:50
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cogI installed the codecs at the Edubuntu installation, but Totem usually pops up and plays it. (It doesn't now.)21:51
SidniciousGalvatron: "Note that resulting USB drives are bootable only on PCs (not on Macs)." :/21:51
cogThank you Galvatron :)21:51
iLogicalthe only camera avaiable is /dev/video021:51
iLogicalin skype21:51
reisioSidnicious: sorry was that a yes to my question?21:51
escottcog, did you manually run the script in /usr/share?21:51
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cogNot to my memory.21:51
h00k!mac | Sidnicious have you seen these?21:51
ubottuSidnicious have you seen these?: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages21:51
donvito2when i type localhost/phpmyadmin i get this Not Found21:51
escott!dvd | cog then reread and follow the instructions21:52
ubottucog then reread and follow the instructions: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:52
Sidniciousreisio: Well, at the moment I just wanted to use it as a live USB21:52
reisioSidnicious: ah21:52
Sidniciousreisio: How does that change things?21:52
reisioSidnicious: now I know what you want :D21:52
Sidnicious:)21:52
reisioaetaric: :D21:53
mouth1is the intel gma 3150 supported? 3d effects too21:54
Sidnicioush00k: Let me read through sysctl hw.model21:54
Sidniciouser21:54
Sidnicioushttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Oneiric21:54
reisiomouth1: intel is usually well supported21:54
cogWhy doesn't Totem normally play the DVD then?21:54
cogThanks escott :)21:55
aetaricreisio: yes?21:55
reisioaetaric: know how to image Ubuntu to boot from an Apple?21:55
xanguacog: legal issues21:55
aetaricnetboot?21:55
GalvatronSidnicious: To tell the truth, I don't see any sense in installing Linux on Mac, while Mac OS is clearly a superior OS, taking a lot of good stuff from both Penguin and Windows, but it's just my opinion. ;)21:56
aetarici haven't figured out how to trick the mac's to boot from a network server like you can a pxe client21:56
reisioaetaric: to boot from a USB from an Apple, sorry21:56
aetaricoh usb21:56
aetaricthat is cake21:56
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reisioaetaric: Sidnicious is having some trouble21:57
aetarichold option and turn it on21:57
reisioaetaric: now about this cake...21:57
Sidniciousaetaric: that's how you boot from a network server too21:57
SidniciousOr, hold down the N key21:57
aetaricyes21:58
aetaricoption gives you a list of drives to boot from21:58
aetaricwhereas N just starts the apple netboot nightmare21:58
zykotick9Sidnicious: fyi, some Macs won't boot gnu/linux from USB21:58
Sidniciousaetaric: Heh. How would I prepare the USB drive? dd doesn't give me anything that it sees as bootable21:59
Sidniciouszykotick9: Hurm.21:59
aetaricerm. use disk utility to make it. convert the iso to a dmg and image the drive from that21:59
aetarici've done it before. i just remember it to be a MAJOR pain22:00
Sidniciouszykotick9: Huh. awesome considering that a few new models that don't ship with optical drives...22:00
aetaricand i have to do it to install ubuntu as my disc drive is broken22:00
FilipeMaiaHi. I'm trying to install ubuntu using a DVD on a new desktop. The boot menu shows up, I choose to install but then all I get are some noisy horizontal lines on the screen. What should I do?22:00
Sidniciousaetaric: you image it with disk utility?22:00
zykotick9Sidnicious: next time, buy better hardware22:00
escott!alternate | FilipeMaia, sounds like it might be !nomodeset try !alternate22:00
ubottuFilipeMaia, sounds like it might be !nomodeset try !alternate: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal22:00
Sidniciouszykotick9: I have no desire to have an optical drive.22:01
aetaricyou should be able to22:01
FilipeMaiaescott: I'm not sure I have any blank CDs left. Can I use that with a USB stick?22:01
designbybeckWhen you have 2 USB's plug in, how to you tell which one is which via /dev/sdb1 and/dev/sbc ?22:01
designbybecksdc22:02
jaqquehi. upgraded to 12.04. my wallpaper has gone missing. it was from 11.10 or 11.04 or 11.something. i want it back. where can i get it from?22:02
Sidniciousaetaric: I'll give it a shot, thanks22:02
escottFilipeMaia, sure22:02
FilipeMaiaescott: how do I burn the image in a USB stick?22:03
reisiojaqque: was it the defualt wallpaper from 11.10/04?22:03
jaqquereisio: no, the pretty flower22:03
jaqqueorange22:03
GalvatronFilipeMaia: Bot is just half-right. You can access the advanced boot options by pressing any key on a purple screen with two symbold on the botton, choosing any language,  then pressing F6. There you can choose "noapic", "acpi=off" and "nomodeset" - all worth trying.22:03
Dr_WillisFilipeMaia:  i use tools from the pendrivelinus web site22:03
escottFilipeMaia, if you have an ubuntu install you can use the usb-creator-gtk too22:03
reisiojaqque: which pretty flower?22:03
FilipeMaiaescott: I only have access to macOSX at the moment22:03
FilipeMaiaGalvatron: I'll give it a try22:04
jaqquereisio: trying to find it on google right now22:04
reisiojaqque: do you have an old (even cluttered) screenshot of it?22:04
jaqquereisio: but it was the one that had the tight focus on one flower and the rest blurred22:04
hikerbikeron a powerbook g4 tried loading lubuntu powerpc  12.04 but it hangs on a missing wireless driver     is there an update ISO with a fix for this ?22:04
jaqquereisio: if i did, i would have linked it already :)22:04
GalvatronFilipeMaia: You don't necessarily need the Alternate, especially that installig from it takes several times longer than a regualr one (I don't know why, but it's my experience at least).22:04
donvito2how to make /var/www/ to be readaable please22:05
reisiojaqque: you think you know yourself better than I know yourself?! :p22:05
jaqquehttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fUbZQcEL7Tw/TonPzpM6BAI/AAAAAAAAZhQ/meT7GuZ8wl4/s400/Ubuntu+11.10+Oneiric+Ocelot+Wallpapers+%25281%2529.jpg22:05
jaqquethat one22:05
reisiojaqque: the one as in some official Ubuntu wallpaper?22:05
FilipeMaiaGalvatron: I managed to type e on the grub boot menu and can now change boot options22:05
cryptotheslowdesignbybeck, replug one of the usb drives then "tail /var/log/syslog" to see where it mounted - should work22:05
jaqqueit is one of the official, but not the default22:05
reisiojaqque: :)22:05
dr3mrohello ; is it possible to make root applications use unity global menu !!!22:05
FilipeMaiaGalvatron: your suggestion is to add acpi=off and nomodeset to the linux line?22:06
designbybeckoh goodness.. not an easier way ;)? I just moved over the file i neeed to the harddrive anyway, so i can take one out and burn to the other! but thanks cryptotheslow22:06
escott!ubuntu-wallpapers-precise | jaqque22:06
reisiojaqque: go to images.google.com, click the little blue camera icon, paste in that URI http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fUbZQcEL7Tw/TonPzpM6BAI/AAAAAAAAZhQ/meT7GuZ8wl4/s400/Ubuntu+11.10+Oneiric+Ocelot+Wallpapers+%25281%2529.jpg you'll get a big copy22:06
hikerbikeron a powerbook g4 tried loading lubuntu powerpc  12.04 but it hangs on a missing wireless driver     is there an update ISO with a fix for this ?22:06
escott!info ubuntu-wallpapers-precise | jaqque presumably replace "precise" with your desired release22:06
ubottujaqque presumably replace "precise" with your desired release: ubuntu-wallpapers-precise (source: ubuntu-wallpapers): Ubuntu 12.04 Wallpapers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.34.1 (precise), package size 2445 kB, installed size 2515 kB22:06
Dr_Willisapps running as root - do use the global menu here i belive22:06
cryptotheslowdesignbybeck, or just touch a small file onto either oen and see which light flashes :D22:06
cryptotheslowone*22:06
FilipeMaiaGalvatron: I already see some improvements! I got the the purple screen22:07
jaqqueescott: thank you.i'll let you know if that worked22:07
designbybeckthat would be cool cryptotheslow but i don't think they have lights22:07
designbybeckor at least i haven't seen it under ubuntu light up22:07
escottjaqque, just download and install this .deb http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ubuntu-wallpapers22:08
FilipeMaiaI wonder with nomodeset and acpi=off are not the default22:08
jaqqueescott: that was it22:08
jaqquethank you22:08
FilipeMaias/with/why22:08
jaqqueescott: apt-get got it for me22:08
hikerbikerany ubuntu unsiders here that kno whow to get a 12.04 lubuntu to install ?   hangs on a  missing wireless card driver22:09
Dr_Willishikerbiker: perhaps disable/turn off the wireless card - so it dosent try to load drivers for it22:10
reisiohikerbiker: should be able to install it without networking22:10
reisioor don't check that 'download updates' option22:10
cryptotheslowdesignbybeck, hmmph. Out of suggestions then, I just use syslog22:10
designbybeckThanks cryptotheslow22:10
Dr_Willisi thought i heard of some bug yesterday tht causes system hangs with some wifi driver.. but i dident   get the details22:10
jaqqueokay - that was all i needed! thanks!22:11
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hikerbikerreisio      i'm on a mac   cant turn off the card22:12
hikerbikeror remove it22:12
sm_hello everybody22:12
Galvatron!question | sm_22:12
ubottusm_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:12
hikerbikeri dont need wireless network connection  have ethernet hooked up22:13
hikerbikerit says its missing a b43 driver    thenn just hangs22:13
sm_i have a serious problem with my browser , I'm using ubuntu10.4 and my firefox is 4.0.1 ,i upgrade my package now when i want to open the pages that contain flash movie nearly all of them has intrupted , what can i do for  that ?22:14
hikerbikeri'm trying to load 11.10 now to see if i can get something to happen22:14
LordOfTimehikerbiker:  you may need to download that driver suing the hardware drivers tool22:14
sm_is this problem related to my recent upgrad and what if it is true what can i do for that?22:15
cryptotheslowdesignbybeck, thinking about it - if you labelled the partitions on the usbs you could use blkid to see where they are mounted22:15
hikerbikerhow can i download it when i'm installing from a CD22:15
sm_is there anyone using ubuntu?22:15
mykrobinsonquick question. How do I remote connect to another ubuntu 12.04 user who has desktop sharing enabled? He has set desktop sharing to use UPnP and has it enabled. I am trying Remina, but feel I am missing something22:15
reisiohikerbiker: wasn't my suggestion, doubt you need to22:15
designbybeckhmm i think they both had 2 diffeneet partiions so i could have tried that22:15
reisiomykrobinson: should only have to plug in the number (& optional pass) he gives you22:16
mykrobinsonreisio: and use VNC as the protocol?22:16
sm_please help me i have a serious problem with my browsers after i upgraded my packages22:17
reisiomykrobinson: that'd be my guess, yes22:17
reisiosm_: okay help granted22:17
iLogicalSo, I am trying to follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1759012 , every command worked, but when I start skype it stills hasn't the camera working or being detected (which cheese detects and works with). When trying to /usr/bin/skype it gives ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. and executes skype. What do I do?22:17
mykrobinsongot it. Thank you22:17
goddardfor some reason when i login it always loads me into ubuntu 2d22:18
goddardhow can i fix it?22:18
escottiLogical, what version of ubuntu?22:18
iLogical12.0422:18
iLogicalLTS22:18
escottiLogical, /usr/lib32 path is wrong22:18
iLogicalcould you say the commands ? :)22:18
reisioiLogical: you actually tried it without ld_preload first, right?22:18
escottiLogical, on mine it is /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so, but you should always verify that the file exists when you get an error like that22:19
sm_<ubottu>i'm really sorry you're right22:19
iLogicalreisio,  tried with it22:19
sm_<reisio>do you want to help me?22:19
cryptotheslowsm_, use Synaptic to purge and reinstall flashplugin22:20
reisiosm_: I am indifferent to helping you, but will if I can22:20
iLogicalIT worked thanks escott22:21
sm_<reisio>you are definitely deserved , i mean you want to give more information about my browsers' problem?22:21
mykrobinsonreisio: any magic tric to triggering the user's dash while in remote session?22:21
OerHekssm_, there are more volunteers, just state your problem22:23
sm_when i check my synaptic flashplugin-installer is check , is it needed to install another package for showing flash movie in the browser ?22:24
Brustofski-Fanunder network.. wireless what is use as hotspot?22:24
OerHekssm_, that package should be enough for flash22:25
sm_and the other problem after upgrading my packages via sudo apt-get upgrade now when i open a page in my browser it is really slow what can i do for that , is it related to my recent upgrade?22:25
Needer_of_Helpdrupal/ubuntu noob, I had drupal install working, then installed/uninstalled/reinstalled vmware-workstation and now my drupal is broken - "PDOException: SQLSTATE[HY000] [2002] Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) in lock_may_be_available() (line 167 of /var/www/drupal/includes/lock.inc)."22:26
schultzawhy drupal22:27
sm_what can i reinstall or repair my brower?22:27
FilipeMaiaGalvatron: I've managed to install but now it rebooted and I have the exact same problem, but this time I didn't see any grub menu22:27
genericonWhat's the difference between the available kernels?22:27
genericonI'm installing onto RAID using Ubuntu alternate on a USB stick, and linux-generic-pae failed or something, so I started "install base system" again22:28
genericonand now I have the option of generic, generic-pae, image-extra, image-generic, image-virtual, and so on22:28
sm_how can i reinstall my firefox on ubuntu10.4?22:28
cryptotheslowsm_, reinstall the flashplugin via synaptic. Just right-click on it there and take the "complete removal" option - process that then install it again. Close you browser before starting that22:28
japroanyone experience using CUDA on 12.04?22:29
escott!pae | genericon22:29
ubottugenericon: To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info22:29
Brustofski-Fangenericon, think the pea is for an x86 32 bit with more then 4 gig of ram22:29
sm_<cryptotheslow>my browser is really slow what can i do for this problem?22:29
FilipeMaiaI've just installed ubuntu using nomodeset but now after rebooting I don't see a grub menu and I only get a screen with garbage. What can I do?22:29
cryptotheslowsm_, are you sure it is the browser and not just your internet connection?22:30
Brustofski-Fanunder network wireless what is the use as hotspot ?22:30
goddardfor some reason when i login it always loads me into ubuntu 2d22:31
goddardhow can i fix it?22:31
japroBrustofski-Fan, nah, you already need it to use all of your 4gb22:31
AndyZeehello everybody, does anybody know of a settings file for gnome3 login screen?22:31
sm_<cryptotheslow>yeah i m pinging 4.2.2.4 and the result is as usual or even better , is it possible that ping statement return fake result?22:31
cryptotheslowFilipeMaia, hold down the shift key as it starts to boot - you should then get the grub menu screen where you can add your nomodeset in22:32
Brustofski-Fannot me.. i have AMD quad core 64 bit with 6gig ram22:32
schultzahow do i check to see if this machine has 32 bit or 64 bit installed?22:32
cryptotheslowsm_, unlikely you'd get a fake ping result. Maybe try another browser to test. e.g. chromium22:32
japroBrustofski-Fan, but with a 64bit version22:32
wawoweschultza: uname -i22:33
AndyZeeschultza, uname22:33
AndyZeeoh22:33
schultzaah22:33
japroyou need pae to use all 4gb on a 32bit install22:33
reisioschultza: what does it matter which is installed?22:33
FilipeMaiacryptotheslow: any particular shift? I tried the left one with no luck22:33
AndyZee does anybody know of a settings file for gnome3 login screen?22:33
Brustofski-Fanjapro, yep.. i was trying to answer a ? someone eles was asking about the pea kernel22:33
genericonright, I fugred the pae was about that22:33
schultzareisio: virtualization22:33
schultzahas better support in 64 bit22:34
reisioperhaps, trivially better22:34
reisiothe guest is already installed?22:34
schultzayes22:34
genericonthat was the first thing that came up on google - but what's the difference between virtual and image?22:34
cryptotheslowFilipeMaia, I thought left shift would do it :/ Maybe that changed22:34
reisioschultza: so what, you would reinstall if it were a 32-bit guest? :)22:34
FilipeMaiacryptotheslow: right one also doesn't seem to work22:34
sm_<cryptotheslow>i tested it by chromium but the suitation is the same22:34
schultzamaybe in a few months22:34
reisio:D22:34
schultzatoo bad this computer isn't vt-d... id try out xen right now22:35
reisioyeah, I'd be watching netflix right now22:35
schultzayep22:35
schultzathats one of two reasons why i havent fully switched to linux as the base os22:35
reisiobut I'd also be richer or broker than I am :p22:35
schultzaor the dom0 as xen would refer to i22:35
reisionetflix not actually that important to me22:36
reisiobut if I had vt-d, and netflix, I'd definitely use it :p22:36
schultzagaming and netflix are22:36
reisioI play the game of life22:36
schultzasometimes i need the distraction22:36
reisioyeah :)22:36
cryptotheslowFilipeMaia, you need to be quite quick getting that shift held down. If you can do it while the bios checks are still going through you should catch it.22:36
FilipeMaiacryptotheslow: of my shift was down for a long time don't worry, my BIOS takes a while22:37
schultzawhy is it saying ubuntu-unregged , when i am regged22:38
rahdukebesides disabling auto DHCP how can I make sure that my wired main PC's IP doesn't change and my dedicated wireless clients stay the same as well? I just got a new router and my main IP addy seems to reset every time i reboot22:38
cryptotheslowFilipeMaia, hmm. Try tapping Esc instead22:38
FilipeMaiacryptotheslow: Esc durig the purple screen?22:38
cryptotheslowbefore22:38
CoJaBoIs it possible to clone the installer to a hard disk, boot it, and install from there (to the same disk)?22:38
FilipeMaiacryptotheslow: that's gonna be tricky22:39
cryptotheslowFilipeMaia, once the purple screen is up grub is done and gone22:39
reisioCoJaBo: yup22:39
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FilipeMaiacryptotheslow: esc worked!22:39
cryptotheslow\o/22:39
reisioFilipeMaia: clearly you aren't using Firefox :p22:39
CoJaBoreisio: Hm; how would I do that?22:39
reisioCoJaBo: why would you want to22:39
CoJaBoreisio: Because it may be the only feasible way to install on a machine that does not have a working CD drive and BIOS cannot boot from USB.22:40
reisioCoJaBo: is there an OS on it already?22:40
FilipeMaiacryptotheslow: can I get non graphical terminals in Ubuntu? I tried Ctrl Alt F2 but I didn't see anything22:40
CoJaBoreisio: Yeh, older kubuntu, Jaunty22:41
reisioCoJaBo: you could just upgrade that22:41
CoJaBoI can't simply upgrade, as the package manager is thoroghly screwed.22:41
reisioCoJaBo: you could unscrew it, but :)22:41
reisioCoJaBo: yes you can also tell the boot loader to boot an install image22:41
CoJaBoIf i could unscrew it, I actually wouldn't need to upgrade lol..22:41
genericonbesides PAE, what's the difference between the kernels?  "image" "virtual" "extra" and "generic"?22:41
cryptotheslowFilipeMaia, now time to look up how to make that nomodeset thing permanent. I think you need to edit /etc/default/grub to suit then run update-grub. But check that out I'm going off memory22:41
reisioheh22:42
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CoJaBoreisio: How? Grub works, but there seems no way to get it to boot cd.22:42
FilipeMaiacryptotheslow: ok thanks22:42
reisioCoJaBo: is it GRUB2?22:42
CoJaBoNo, grub122:42
reisioCoJaBo: mmm22:42
reisioCoJaBo: IIRC it's simpler from GRUB222:42
reisioCoJaBo: you might want to try installing GRUB2 the hard way22:42
Zackingtonis there any backtrack support on here?22:42
CoJaBoI have an external CD drive, but the BIOS doesn't even try to boot from it22:43
genii-around!backtrack22:43
ubottuThere are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition22:43
reisioCoJaBo: min I can never find that GRUB1 image boot link22:43
cryptotheslowFilipeMaia, Ctrl Alt F1 to F6 should give you a tty once booted. If not working, boot to recovery mode from the grub menu and drop to root shell to make your edits22:43
xanguaZackington: /join #backtrack-linux22:43
reisioCoJaBo: some BIOSes require you to actually remove the hard disk as a potential boot source before they will, despite the order being applied properly22:43
FilipeMaiacryptotheslow: ok thanks for the help. I'm out of batery so have to log off. Bye!22:44
cryptotheslowcya22:44
CoJaBoreisio: I can disable it in the order, but then it just says theres no bootable media22:44
reisioCoJaBo: okay, some also just suck :p22:44
reisioCoJaBo: let me find that freaking bookmark, hang on22:44
CoJaBolol.. Its a dell :/22:44
reisioCoJaBo: old one, I guess22:44
Jordan_UCoJaBo: There is still the option of the minimal install as I started to explain.22:45
CoJaBoNot even that old; came with Vista originally22:45
Guest24663Hey everyone, just a quick question about mantel, am I in the right place?22:45
reisioI know I have it bookmarked, but it must have an awful title22:45
Jordan_UCoJaBo: What happened when you tried to boot from the USB drive after dd'ing the iso to it though?22:45
CoJaBoJordan_U: Nothing, it just ignored it.22:45
Jordan_UCoJaBo: Did the USB drive boot successfully on another machine?22:46
Galvatrongenii-around: To tell the truth, I see no problem with supporting Mint here, since "Mint" itself: is just an addon set for Ubuntu and makes a very minor changes (you can easily add and remove it from an existing installation - I already did so once).22:46
GalvatronBacktrack or Trisquel is a completely different story though.22:47
Jordan_U!mint | Galvatron22:47
ubottuGalvatron: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org22:47
schultzanot everyone in ubuntu needs to know the tweaks mint has put in...22:47
schultza!ot22:48
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:48
Guest24663On ubuntu wiki about mantel, there's documentation for macbookpro4.1 and Ubuntu9. I want to install 12.04. Am I right in thinking I can just follow the same wiki for 9 but with 12? Never done mantel stuff before, but have a few pure ubuntu boxes around22:48
GalvatronThese are just some few programs and graphical motives - nothing important22:48
CoJaBo..Actually, I have another old laptop, I muight just be able to replace the CD drive afterall....22:48
CoJaBoForgot i even had this one22:48
GalvatronI can add or remove "Mint" anytime, with absolutely no problem22:48
reisioCoJaBo: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/MEMDISK#ISO_images22:50
reisioCoJaBo: you could also pop the drive out and install from another computer and then pop it back in22:51
Jordan_Ureisio: Memdisk will only work with the minimal iso, and in that case it's easier and more sane to simply load the netboot kernel and initrd directly.22:51
reisioCoJaBo: just have to make sure critical drivers are included: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ (textarea)22:51
reisioJordan_U: why's that22:52
genericonok so I figured out that my problem with installing ubuntu alternative is that it can't find the kernel on the archives22:52
rahdukebesides disabling auto DHCP how can I make sure that my wired main PC's IP doesn't change and my dedicated wireless clients stay the same as well? I just got a new router and my main IP addy seems to reset every time i reboot22:52
genericonit suggests doing apt-get update or fix-missing... how do I do that?22:53
genii-aroundrahduke: Most routers have the ability to always assign the same IP to the same MAC address22:53
ActionParsniprahduke: the wired connections you can define in /etc/network/interfaces if you want, and you can then uninstall network manager22:53
Cerrdorwhen I tried to update my domain to my IP it says Invalid ZTLD?22:54
mcphailrahduke: set static IPs for all of your devices or configure your router to hand out defined addresses to each client22:54
CoJaBoreisio: Its 64-bit, I don't have another 64-bit computer.  I did find another CD drive (internal), fingers crossed it even stillworks O_O22:54
cryptotheslowrahduke, have a look if your router supports fixed IP allocations via dhcp. most do22:54
CerrdorTLD22:54
Jordan_Ureisio: Because memdisk only fools bootloaders and DOS. Once an OS with real drivers (like Linux's) starts it will look for a CD in the physical drive and fail to find it. You can tell the kernel / initrd scripts to find the iso file on a hard drive, but that requires passing special kernel parameters (which memdisk by its nature can't do).22:54
ActionParsniprahduke: you can define the addressing in network manager instead, if you prefer a GUI22:54
reisioJordan_U: but why would it be easier to netboot?22:54
ActionParsniprahduke: set the static IPs at the top end of your network range so that DHCP addresses don't clash22:54
reisioCoJaBo: heheh22:55
heerhi22:55
CoJaBoreisio: OMG it does22:55
CoJaBoOMG22:55
reisioamazin(fruit)22:55
reisioheer: wb22:55
eversonportugues?22:55
ActionParsnip!pt22:55
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.22:55
rahdukecrytpotheslow: thats what i was looking to do22:55
CoJaBoIts been sitting up there for almost 10 years -_-'22:55
eversonalgm?22:55
Jordan_Ureisio: I didn't say it would be easier to netboot, I said it would be easier to load the netboot kernel and initrd directly (the "minimal" iso is an iso containing the netboot kernel and initrd). I understand how that wasn't at all clear though :)22:56
reisioCoJaBo: nice22:56
rahdukeActionParsnip: ill have a look22:56
reisioJordan_U: oh still with memdisk?22:56
eversonalgum brazuca on?22:56
Jordan_Ureisio: No, directly via grub.22:56
eversonhehehehe22:56
cryptotheslowrahduke, what router is it? although it's probably OT for #ubuntu :(22:56
eversonportuguess22:56
rahdukeLinksys e120022:56
rahdukewhats OT?22:56
cryptotheslowoff topic22:56
xangua!pt | everson22:56
ubottueverson: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.22:56
reisiommm22:57
rahdukeActionParsnip: are you telling me to goto network manager change from Auto DHCP to manualand set the address from there w/ dns servers and all?22:57
eversonsala brazuca22:57
eversonalgm on22:57
reisioaeoueouaeuo22:57
eversonlol22:58
ActionParsniprahduke: yes you will need to set IP and DNS22:58
cryptotheslowrahduke, page 29 and 30 of the manual available here: http://homesupport.cisco.com/en-us/wireless/linksys/E1200  covers dhcp ip reservations on that box22:59
rahdukeActionParsnip: so basically just copy the info from my current connection information and set the IP to what i want it to be?22:59
ActionParsniprahduke: should be fine, yes. You can get the DNS servers with:  cat /etc/resolv.conf22:59
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rahdukeActionParsnip: netmask and subnetmask are the same thing right?23:00
CoJaBo...aaand, the installer (kubuntu) just freezes.23:00
genericonI'm confused as to how it can be unable to resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com in the installer but ping on a different console works just fine23:00
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ActionParsniprahduke: yes, same difference23:01
dejan_spasichi folks23:01
ActionParsnipCoJaBo: did you upgrade the installer before running it?23:01
ActionParsnipCoJaBo: assuming you have web access23:01
ActionParsnipgenericon: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null      then retry23:02
ActionParsnipgenericon: actually, remove the '-a' from that :)23:02
genericonhow do you override the archive hostname to replace it with an IP?  that might fix the problem?23:03
ActionParsnipgenericon: thats what the command I gave actually does :)23:03
dejan_spasicif i mount a network storage over smb with nautius where can i find the location of the mounted storage?23:03
ActionParsnipgenericon: well, its a different DNS to try23:03
ActionParsnipgenericon: you could add an entry in /etc/hosts for the name to IP conversion if you want23:03
ActionParsnipdejan_spasic: ~/.gvfs23:03
Blue1dejan_spasic: depends on the mount point you specifiy in the mount23:04
dejan_spasicActionParsnip: okay. thats all ;) thank you!23:05
xangua(18:02:33) ActionParsnip: genericon: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null      then retry - works on precice¿23:07
CoJaBoActionParsnip: It was trying to compute how much space it could save by resizing the partition I intended to erase -_-'   I just did a `killall ntfsresize` in terminal and it came back to life lol23:07
ActionParsnipCoJaBo: ha, awesmoe23:08
reisionarrator: but then CoJaBo began to question what other things after being killed completely would start behaving better! (DUN DUN DUN!)23:09
CoJaBoHeh. Nothin beats a good ol killall -9 :P23:10
blackshirtCojaBo: i don't think so23:11
wolfrichow can i set fstab to not require a drive to be present in order to boot. i tried nofail option but that didn't work, i still get an option saying "press to skip mounting or press m for manual recovery'. I still want the option there to mount it if it's available though23:11
wolfricnvm, should have googled the error, going to try nobootwait23:12
ActionParsnipwolfric: add 'noauto' as an option23:12
wolfricnoauto won't even mount it if it is there though right?23:13
ActionParsnipwolfric: yes, but you can add an entry in /etc/rc.local to make it attempt to mount :)23:14
wolfricnobootwait was actually what i wanted but cheers23:14
roajehey, do you guys know how i can disable the crash report tool?23:15
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ActionParsnipwolfric: sweet (mental note)23:17
genii-aroundroaje: Uninstall apport23:17
roajegenii-around: excellent thank you much23:18
roajehave a great day23:18
harushimoi'm using virtual box. Is it possible to have a desktop shortcut on ubuntu?23:19
ActionParsnipharushimo: desktop shortcut to what?23:19
harushimofor my virtual machine23:20
harushimoI think I just figured it out23:20
ActionParsnipharushimo: what, to launch it, or to access the files??23:20
harushimoboth23:20
harushimoI want to be launch and access it without using sudo23:20
[yates]i have an nfs mount over ethernet, transfer rates start at 30-40mbps but then drop to 12mps after a while, the same with usb actually, is there anyway to debug this?23:20
reisiocourse23:20
harushimoin order for me run virtual box. I need to do sudo23:20
reisioharushimo: think you can still just right-click and add a launcher23:20
ActionParsnipharushimo: ln -s /usr/share/applications/virtualbox.desktop ~/Desktop/VirtualBox.desktop23:20
reisioharushimo: otherwise you can add a .desktop file to Desktop/23:20
harushimoI did that23:21
reisioyeah like that, only a shell script using sudo instead23:21
ActionParsnipharushimo: use TAB to autocomplete the file names23:21
reisioif that's really what you want23:21
reisioharushimo: did you not add your user to the vboxusers group?23:21
harushimoI didn't know it had that23:21
harushimoI just started using vbox like 4 days ago23:21
reisiobetter check 'groups userhere'23:21
ActionParsnipharushimo: to access the files, the only way I can think is to set the network in the virtualbox to 'bridged' then install samba or similar and it will appear as a system on your LAN23:22
harushimoI'm still not use to the program23:22
harushimook23:22
reisiowhat files?23:22
ActionParsnipharushimo: then you can just access it like the other systems you may be sharing on :)23:22
harushimooh cool23:22
harushimoI didn't know this at all23:22
ActionParsnipharushimo: or install openssh-server and you will get an SFTP server23:23
harushimook I will do that23:24
myherowhats the diff between 1.6gb live dvd iso and 600+mb desktop iso when it ccan also be used live ???23:24
robertzaccourdoes installing kdenlive also install everything ffmpeg?23:24
xanguamyhero: the dvd has language files...that's all23:24
myheroand what about 4.7gb dvd iso ?23:24
myheroxangua: and what about 4.7gb dvd iso ?23:25
ActionParsnipmyhero: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82045523:25
Needer_of_Helphad drupal working, then installed/uninstalled/reinstalled vmware-workstation, now drupal gives this error: "PDOException: SQLSTATE[HY000] [2002] Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) in lock_may_be_available() (line 167 of /var/www/drupal/includes/lock.inc)." and sudo start mysql gives start: Job failed to start23:27
ipproblemSo, how do you fix the "unable to resolve hostname" problem in the text-based gui installer?23:27
ipproblemI can ping them in another virtual console so there's nothing wrong with the internet connection23:27
myheroi wnat to try ubuntu kubuntu lubuntu xubuntu medibuntu edubuntu and etc all....so i have to download mb's or gb's of iso for every distro ?23:28
ActionParsnipipproblem: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null23:28
ActionParsnipmyhero: you can install each desktop on the same ubuntu, you will just choose the desktop at login23:29
ipproblemoh ok23:29
ipproblemActionParsnip: I'll give that a shot23:29
CoJaBoNeeder_of_Help: Reinstalling VMware will change your network adaptors- probably some network config is looking for the wrong name somewhere.23:30
myheroActionParsnip: so that will be full setup iso installed on top of same ubuntu or it will be just DE ?23:30
ActionParsnipmyhero: just the DE and the apps for the DE23:30
heexxWhy is it so fu**ing hard to install OB?23:31
ActionParsnipmyhero: at log in you will use the cog menu next to your name in lightdm and select the desktop to use23:31
Needer_of_HelpCojaBo say a few more words, noob here23:31
ActionParsnipmyhero: you could download the live CD ISOs and have grub2 boot them if you want, bit more effort23:31
ActionParsnipheexx: what is OB?23:31
myheroActionParsnip: how to do it ?23:31
ActionParsnipmyhero: not something I've done but I know grub2 can boot stored ISO files.23:32
ActionParsnipheexx: ob == openbox?23:32
Jordan_Umyhero: Download the isos and then follow http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F23:32
myheroohh means i'll hve to just store boot iso on hdd n it will boot frm it ?'23:32
Jordan_Umyhero: Yup.23:33
myherook23:33
myherobut now the same question.....how do i get all other versions on top of ubuntu ?23:33
CoJaBoNeeder_of_Help: I'm guessing its probably an issue with the mysql server- is it running? Sometimes they wont even start if the network config changes23:34
Cerrdortrying to move a wordpress directory and I keep getting this error:: root@cerrdor:/var/www# cp /var/www/wordpress/wp-admin/ /var/www23:34
Cerrdorcp: omitting directory `/var/www/wordpress/wp-admin/'23:34
myheroi'll just hve to get DE and apps but how to get them n store them for afterwards live session ?23:34
heexxActionParsnip: Yes.23:34
CoJaBoCerrdor: cp -R23:34
Cerrdorohh23:35
yeatsmyhero: just do 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' (and so on for the others)23:35
Cerrdorbefore the Directory named?23:35
CoJaBoCerrdor: Yeh, by default itll skip dirs- -R is the recursive option23:35
ActionParsnipheexx: sudo apt-get install openbox23:35
yeatsmyhero: just note that all programs will be available in each DE23:35
donvito2!webmin23:35
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.23:35
heexxActionParsnip: Then why do I find pages and pages of long GUIDES(!) to install it?23:35
ActionParsnip!ebox | donvito223:35
ubottudonvito2: zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).23:35
myherobut that will download n install but how i store it locally so as to use them afterwards also ?23:35
donvito2thanks ActionParsnip23:36
this_is_a_unmyhero, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html23:36
ActionParsnipheexx: because they aren't specifically for Ubuntu, the repos have openbox on them. Did you not think to search software centre first / use apt-cache ?23:36
Needer_of_HelpCoJaNo mysqladmin -u root -p status23:36
Needer_of_HelpEnter password:23:36
Needer_of_Helpmysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed23:36
Needer_of_Helperror: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'23:36
Needer_of_HelpCheck that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!23:36
FloodBot1Needer_of_Help: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:36
heexxActionParsnip: So it's easy for Ubuntu, but not for other distros?23:37
Needer_of_Helpoops23:37
CerrdorCoJaBo, thnx so much23:37
gkatsevanyone used ndiswrapper? Trying to install wifi driver and it installs fine but `modprobe ndiswrapper' gives me a `FATAL module ndiswrapper not found.'23:38
heexxActionParsnip: Hello?!?!?!?!23:39
OerHeksheexx, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox23:41
ipproblemActionParsnip: I tried the command you listed but tee isn't on my Busybox ash shell...23:41
bitonicppas don't seem to work tonight. is it only me?23:42
heexxOerHeks: Jesus Christ!23:42
heexxOerHeks: **** that. :/23:42
OerHeksheexx, for other distro's: why should we care?23:42
reisioheexx: you just install it and run openbox-session after stopping GDM23:43
heexxreisio: And that would look like shit if not configured for days?23:44
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Hilikusi have a friend trying to install ubuntu. he left an unformatted partition in his harddrive. is there any way in the installer to tell ubuntu to take that region and do everything it needs with it? i don't want to tell him to manually create /, /boot and swap23:44
OerHekshilikus sure, if that partition is >4.4Gb23:45
Jordan_UHilikus: I think that's one of the default options, it certainly used to be years ago.23:45
Hilikusit is23:45
Taksas027was it harmless to run sudo apt-get autoremove?23:45
Hilikushe says that the only option thats automatic tries to shrink his windows partition even more to give the space to ubuntu instead of taking the already empty one23:46
OerHeksTaksas027, it "is" harmless.23:46
reisioheexx: it'd look the same as it ever looks23:46
trismgkatsev: ndiswrapper is not included with the kernel in 12.04, install ndiswrapper-dkms23:48
dr3mroubuntu has came a long way towards maturity in 12.04 but still needs alot !!23:48
reisioa_lot23:48
reisiowhat doesn't23:48
gkatsevtrism: ah. thanks.23:48
dannyhello how do i google search strait from the unity hud23:48
BrowserHello everyone23:51
eR^zeRa`i believe the proper greeting around here is hello world23:51
wlightningcan anyone recommend a gui (non web based) document manager/virtual filing cabinet software.. preferably something I could easily scan all my bills into and tag them for later access23:52
ActionParsnipreisio: i was thinking that23:52
wlightning?23:52
dr3mrohello , I have patched some packages and want to make them into the official repositories .. they are in my PPA !! what to do ?23:52
ActionParsnipdr3mro: so does mac, so does windows...23:53
xclusive585I really would like to know how you can request a package be built and added to the Ubuntu repository. Especially one that has a proven PPA already23:53
BrowserI have added Guake to application that Ubuntu execute to startup , but Ubuntu doesn't open it. Why?23:53
gkatsevtrism: should I be following this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper) or is there a better guide?23:54
dr3mroActionParsnip, No but ubuntu has become a longer way .. it's now more mature to me than windows and onlycompetes with mac23:54
dr3mroActionParsnip, ubuntu only needs to have a more professional applications like video editors ( pro ) not amature apps like now and a more options for customization in the ubuntu settings center and make ubuntuy tweak and my unity useless23:56
KasplodeyBrowser, how did you add it?23:56
werderBrowser: Guake is a drop-down terminal, right?23:57
BrowserYes.23:57
werderBrowser: well it won't show up when you start, you have to press F12 to drop it down23:58
BrowserKasplodey:  from the menu of Ubuntu. I added the order: guake.23:58
BrowserYes, but guake is not open.23:58
ActionParsnipdr3mro: there are more interfaces than unity :)23:58
ActionParsnipBrowser: press F1223:59
werderBrowser: you mean the process hasn't started, right?23:59
BrowserYes yes. doesn't work23:59
Browserwerder: yes23:59
werderBrowser: ok, so Guake works when you start it manually?23:59
ActionParsnipBrowser: if you run:  ps -ef | grep guake     is it running ?23:59
BrowserActionParsnip:  i have to run guake , if not doesn't work f1223:59

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