[00:00] <bluefox83> harris_: to my knowledge such software is not currently available for ubuntu...
[00:00] <harris_> how do i download a app in the software center that lets me login to ubuntu 12.04 using my face and my webcam
[00:00] <bluefox83> Celso_: then it's not using the card
[00:00] <nulldev> harris face && webcam > dev/null >> harris
[00:00] <Celso_> Bluefox83 : but how tha hell is still on?
[00:00] <joint> this is the best guide for ubuntu 12.04 and amd catalyst..... everything about drivers. http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide
[00:00] <Benkinooby> stef1a, anything interesting in dmesg?
[00:00] <lopnut1971> ActionParsnip, still didn't work
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> harris_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/login-to-ubuntu-using-your-face/
[00:01] <harris_> nulldev,  you want me to download face && webcam
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> lopnut1971: run:  lsusb   use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[00:01] <harris_> ActionParsnip,  should i post outcomes
[00:01] <Celso_> joint: thanks! i will going to check if there is something that could fix.
[00:02] <joint> np. it has everything...
[00:02] <Celso_> Bluefox83 : and thanks for the help bluefox83!
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> harris_: outcomes of what?
[00:02] <joint> i like to manually install the drivers now that i know how to do it.
[00:02] <harris_> the codes
[00:02] <bluefox83> Celso_: it's likely running a generic card driver
[00:04] <Benkinooby> stef1a, how familiar are you with terminals?
[00:04] <Celso_> Bluefox83 : probably. i am going to check the link. but, really, thank you!
[00:04] <joint> Removing Catalyst/fglrx is towards the bottom
[00:04] <stef1a> sorry
[00:04] <bluefox83> Celso_: you're welcome
[00:04] <bluefox83> brb ppl
[00:04] <harris_> ActionParsnip,  E: Unable to locate package pam-face-authentication
[00:04] <harris_> is what comes up
[00:05] <stef1a> Benkinooby: yes; dmesg displays a lot of stuff, not sure what to look for.
[00:05] <Celso_> joint : the bottom? i didnt understand....
[00:05] <Benkinooby> stef1a, hm, ok... are you used to console? do you know commands like cat or cd?
[00:05] <Berto> Hi - So has anyone made a good solution to the awful 1 pixel Ubuntu 12.04 Window Resize Corner problem??
[00:05] <Berto> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOwXMTglGdM
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> harris_: make sure the ppa supports your release
[00:05] <nulldev> if [ -d windows ] ; then rm -rf windows
[00:06] <joint> scroll down to the bottom of the page...
[00:06] <harris_> how do i do that ActionParsnip
[00:06] <stef1a> Benkinooby: yes
[00:06] <Benkinooby> stef1a, also is this a fresh install?
[00:06] <stef1a> Benkinooby: what do you mean by fresh?
[00:06] <nulldev> harris why are you asking about an e; partition?
[00:06] <joint> that page shows u how to do everything
[00:06] <Cerrdor> how do I get out of root so I can install something not as root?
[00:06] <Benkinooby> Steeltip, did you just set it up?
[00:06] <harris_> ActionParsnip,  i have ubuntu 12.04
[00:06] <Benkinooby> stef1a, , did you just set it up?
[00:06] <stef1a> Benkinooby: no, it's been a fee weeks
[00:06] <Benkinooby> Steeltip, sry, wrong nick
[00:06] <stef1a> few*
[00:07] <Benkinooby> stef1a, and the problem was there all the time?
[00:07] <alex-> Can I get infected by keyloggers?
[00:07] <joint> no
[00:07] <stef1a> Benkinooby: not sure... I think I could originally use the slider, but it wouldn't save the brightness after a reboot, so then I added the acpi_vendor and linux lines to the grub config file, and then it got as it is now
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> harris_: ok, check it supports Prcise then....
[00:07] <Celso_> joint : yep. lots of information there
[00:07] <nulldev> forgot fi
[00:08] <nulldev> you can get infected by anything on Linux
[00:08] <harris_> how do i check it
[00:08] <joint> its direction on how to manually install amd driver supplied by ubuntu... or to download them of of amd's site and compile the package
[00:08] <nulldev> less than windows but if you know the Linux system aN
[00:09] <nulldev> and what root and a user is its secure as fook
[00:09] <joint> if you remove the amd driver, depending on which one u have, you may have to replace some files... you have to read it. its a bit much at first. but you get used to it. i like to always have the latest catalyst drivers
[00:09] <joint> the ubuntu supplied amd driver doesnt always have the latest features
[00:09] <Benkinooby> stef1a, i have to go now, but here is what i would do: try to get back to original state, install the closed source driver (keyword: jockey) in case you haven't
[00:10] <stef1a> Benkinooby: yes, sir! thank yoiu!
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> harris_: http://ppa.launchpad.net/antonio.chiurazzi/ppa/ubuntu/dists/  only goes up to Oneiric
[00:10] <harris_> ActionParsnip,  so how do i get it
[00:10] <harris_> is there a code
[00:10] <Benkinooby> stef1a, then come here again... it is easier to fix settings that are not save than settings that are not working at all
[00:10] <joint> catalyst 12.5 will be released any day now
[00:10] <Benkinooby> stef1a, to be honest, it is very strange that the brightness changes for new chrome tabs
[00:11] <Celso_> joint : thanks alot dude! already bookmarked that link :D going to restart to see if the changes worked! thanks!
[00:11] <joint> ok good luck
[00:11] <alex-> hmm
[00:11] <Celso_> :D
[00:11] <joint> yea i keep that link up in the cloud myself :)
[00:11] <Benkinooby> stef1a, also, i don't think it intended, that the brightness is saved over a reboot
[00:12] <nulldev> brightness lvls would never be stored in a var
[00:12] <joint> i hope he can read that from another comp. he might just be booting up to a command prompt
[00:12] <Benkinooby> stef1a, but if you want that, a small bash-skript could be used for that, which saves the config at shutdown and resets the config at reboot.
[00:13] <Benkinooby> stef1a, also i am sure that there is a "default" brightness set somewhere in the system
[00:15] <K350> any terminal utility that shows varous info about a file?
[00:16] <nulldev> info as in?
[00:16] <zykotick9> K350: "file foo"?
[00:16] <Chuck_Norris> K350: file /path/to/file
[00:16] <psusi> K350, what sort of info?
[00:17] <nulldev> k350 stat is a good one i,e stat file/dir
[00:17] <K350> zykotick9: file is good too, I want to know privelgeies - in numbers, file size and type and date
[00:17] <KRomo> any suggestions on a podcast app for linux?
[00:17] <Chuck_Norris> K350: ls -l foo
[00:17] <stef1a> Benkinooby: I removed the lines from the config file. Now the slider is back.
[00:17] <psusi> K350, ls -l
[00:18] <Benkinooby> stef1a, ok, that's good
[00:18] <zykotick9> K350: permissions aren't typically shown in octal format - that's for human interpretation
[00:18] <stef1a> Benkinooby: However, the screen is still adjusting its brightness whenever I shift windows. This bothers me.
[00:18] <Benkinooby> stef1a, so brightness is working the way it should - except for that saving part
[00:18] <nulldev> du -h --max-depth=2 / | grep **M
[00:18] <stef1a> And I suspect that the brightness resets to maximum upon reboot.
[00:18] <Benkinooby> stef1a, hm, ok
[00:18] <K350> nulldev: stat, that's the tool I was looking for. Thanks a lot!:-)
[00:19] <Benkinooby> stef1a, can you give me the output of dmesg?
[00:19] <nulldev> can be good for finding whats taking up space
[00:19] <K350> ok, found the tool I was looking for  - 'stat'
[00:19] <nulldev> stat FTW its brill k350 :)
[00:19] <stef1a> Benkinooby: uh... it's pretty large.
[00:20] <K350> nulldev: FTW..huh..what's that?
[00:20] <Benkinooby> !paste stef1a
[00:20] <Benkinooby> !paste
[00:20] <nulldev> k350 fuck the world
[00:21] <Benkinooby> K350, free the walrus
[00:21] <stef1a> Benkinooby: http://pastebin.com/wW5q8VM1
[00:21] <nulldev> multiline message<<EOF; 1;2EOF
[00:22] <supplyship> so.. is this where i am supposed to be if i can't figure out what i'm doing?
[00:22] <Malsasa> Hello, TAB button used for jump forward from one item to next item in GUI, e.g. Wordpress Login Page. Now how if i wanna jump backward? What button should I tap?
[00:23] <Benkinooby> stef1a, can you run lspci in a terminal and paste me its output please?
[00:23] <bastidrazor> Malsasa: shit+tab
[00:23] <bastidrazor> oops.. shift+tab
[00:23] <sbattey_> Lol
[00:24] <Malsasa> bastidrazor: ooooh, thank you!
[00:24] <Malsasa> bastidrazor:
[00:24] <stef1a> http://pastebin.com/ys4c9TWR
[00:24] <Malsasa> bastidrazor: how easy, i dont know....
[00:24] <bastidrazor> Malsasa: You're welcome
[00:24] <stef1a> Benkinooby: http://pastebin.com/ys4c9TWR
[00:24] <Malsasa> bastidrazor: :D
[00:24] <nulldev> wonders how noobs would have handled 10 years ago
[00:24] <joint> i think that guy didnt print those instructions and deleted his amd driver.. and is just sitting at a prompt right now going omg
[00:24] <homecable> whats a good program to watch ur bandwith
[00:24] <joint> i hope he didnt do that
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> nulldev: was ok, just a steeper learning curve :)
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> homecable: ntop
[00:25] <joint> well.. welcome to the world of amd drivers
[00:25] <Benkinooby> stef1a, ok see if you can run a programm called jockey or something like that... it will look for drivers for your video card
[00:25] <peterrooney> Ten years ago, "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way" was required reading.
[00:26] <nulldev> actionparsnip maybe but these gui kids these days
[00:27] <Benkinooby> nulldev, i would not consider that as a disadvantage... those who are serious will come to command line sooner or later :P
[00:27] <hrmartin> First time here. First time Ubuntu User. Just installed 12.04 on old  HP Pavillion TX1000 running AMD Turion 64
[00:27] <hrmartin> WIFI NOT WORKING. Can someone hep???
[00:27] <Benkinooby> nulldev, also gui isn't always a bad thing
[00:28] <Benkinooby> stef1a, how's it going?
[00:28] <stef1a> Benkinooby: run; it says the ATI/AMD prop FGLRX driver is active
[00:28] <nulldev> benkinooby cli rules end of. GUI is handy for anything I forgot to script
[00:29] <zuma99> hi
[00:29] <stef1a> Benkinooby: it says the "post-release updates" one is inactive, though
[00:29] <stef1a> but iirc i tried to activate that and it didn't work
[00:29] <joint> stay away from that post release updates one
[00:29] <joint> i have never met anybody that has got that to work
[00:29] <stef1a> "...and it didn't work" ;)
[00:29] <joint> i dont even know why its there
[00:30] <joint> maybe for the future
[00:30] <zuma99> is this an OK channel to ask a question about changelogs for a package that was recently updated?
[00:30] <joint> if you want the latest its best to always download and install amd catalyst from the web site
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> nulldev: its how the inductry has progressed
[00:31] <Benkinooby> stef1a, hm... so i think your first step should be to go for a fitting driver. for that some1 else has to help you. there is also a good article about it in the formus
[00:31] <Benkinooby> !video
[00:31] <nulldev> actionparsnip true
[00:31] <Benkinooby> !graphic
[00:31] <Benkinooby> !ati
[00:31] <stef1a> Benkinooby: okay, thank you; i'll take a look later
[00:31] <joint> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide  save and print that. everything u need to know about amd catalyst and 12.04
[00:31] <Benkinooby> !ati stef1a
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> nulldev: I've found that as users get used to the OS they tend towards CLI for things though :)
[00:32] <joint> amd catalyst support will be a little better in kernel 3.4
[00:32] <Benkinooby> stef1a, i think you have an ATI graphic card
[00:32] <nulldev> the commnity not Ubuntu but all non generic Linux and BSD fight against windows thats why they suffer from viruses
[00:33] <Benkinooby> stef1a, good luck
[00:33] <nulldev> actionparsnip I grew up on cli and basic on a spectrum
[00:35] <nulldev> I modified a flight simulator app I copied out of a book and modified it aged 6
[00:35] <nulldev> I get lost in gui
[00:37] <joint> fedora 17 was released today
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> nulldev: same, zx spectrum rocks :)
[00:37] <joint> i think thats kernel 3.3
[00:37] <nulldev> fedora gets released every day lol
[00:37] <nulldev> spectrum FTW
[00:37] <rogerio> Hi guys!
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> hi rogerio
[00:38] <pionar> hi rogerio
[00:38] <rogerio> :D
[00:38] <rogerio> can u guys help me with video encoding to xVid?
[00:38] <nulldev> actionparsnip this is why I love the rasberry pi its teaching kids what we learnt not from school but sitting in front of a computer
[00:39] <Chuck_Norris> aloha rogerio :D
[00:39] <rogerio> aloha!
[00:39] <Chuck_Norris> rogerio: arista-transcoder
[00:39] <rogerio> hum, so can I use it with Pitivi, for example?
[00:40] <Chuck_Norris> rogerio: mencoder "input.???" -of avi -ovc xvid -oac mp3lame -xvidencopts "fixed_quant=4:aspect=16/9" -lameopts vbr=2:br=128 -vf scale=720:576 -ofps 25 -o "outputs.avi"
[00:41] <rogerio> Ahh ok, I saw just now that arista is not a codec ;)
[00:42] <KRomoSex> what is a great podcast program?
[00:43] <root> hello
[00:43] <Chuck_Norris> not, arista is a really good program for transcoding media files: http://www.transcoder.org/   and also see   http://www.transcoder.org/presets/ =P
[00:44] <nulldev> root is now known as pwned :)
[00:44] <merryman540> Hi. My windows system is refusing to open any dvd storage discs that I created a while back. However, I can open the discs in Linux. The disks contain otfe encypted contains (made on the windows pc)-I was wonder if it might be possible to open those encrypted containers in a linux system??
[00:44] <Guest34344> :P
[00:45] <nulldev> merryman50 boot from it if you want to rescue your windoes else stop asking how to reverse windows users in a Linux room
[00:47] <merryman540> nulldev: I don't understand what you mean-say again?
[00:47] <eli9> Hi all
[00:47] <eli9> im a male
[00:47] <nulldev> merryman500 windows is shit
[00:47] <Ogrim> This is a Lunix room and they don't want you trying to ask about Windows
[00:47] <eli9> what linux app do u recommend for cutting videos into parts? :)
[00:48] <merryman540> nulldev: ok mate. I didn't come on here for an argument.
[00:48] <nulldev> merryman540 Im not either
[00:49] <tomasz> cześć jest ktoś z polski
[00:49]  * Star2012 yawns
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> merryman540, encryption is done with a app you will need that app to open them I would suspect.
[00:50] <nulldev> windows is very shit though
[00:50] <escott> !language | nulldev
[00:50] <FPFL> :x
[00:50] <nulldev> windows is poo
[00:50] <FPFL> lol
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> 54321 banned
[00:52] <KRomoSex> lol
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> nulldev: depends on needs
[00:53] <KRomoSex> i just fell in love with a piece of linux software
[00:53] <KRomoSex> for the first time
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> KRomoSex: guake maybe?
[00:53] <sbattey_> What software?
[00:53] <KRomoSex> no, Clementine
[00:53] <nulldev> needs do matter but what needs differ?
[00:53] <KRomoSex> removed rhythmbox
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> KRomoSex: nice choice
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> nulldev: playing the latest games not runnable in Wine/cedega etc for one
[00:54] <KRomoSex> what is guake? replacement terminal?
[00:54] <Dmole> anone know of a CLI docx2html?
[00:54] <merryman540> wilee-nilee: (lol good name!) yeh sure the apt is free otfe (on the fly encryption) - I know you can make encrypted linux containers using it - I know linux recognises most things windows but just wondered if anybody might know it I could do this in linux-unecrypt my windows containers.
[00:54] <lorecaster> I had to install linux last month, and re-install last week. A fresh-install allows all USB devices to work fine. After a while, my keyboard and mouse (both USB) work, my printer, etc... but no peripherals do. My USB sticks don't work, my JVC HD Camcorder won't connect. All are known-working, and the drives mechanically function. Ideas?
[00:54] <lorecaster> (won't recognize my iPhone4 either... nothing
[00:54] <nulldev> guake is the equivalent of the quake terminal for gnome
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> lorecaster: tried setting your USB to legacy mode in BIOS?
[00:55] <zuma99> hi...is this an OK channel to ask a question about changelogs for a package that was recently updated?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> KRomoSex: if you use terminal a lot I strongly advise you install it :)
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> zuma99: should be ok :)
[00:55] <lorecaster> I never touched the bios... in either of these re-installs. I can do as you request, though, if you think it would have chanced wihtout my intervention
[00:55] <nulldev> actionparsnip thats all windows is good for games
[00:55] <stueng> and outlook
[00:55] <stueng> you cant beat outlook
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> nulldev: its all I can think of
[00:56] <harris_> how do you unlock ubuntu 12,04 with facial unlock
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> stueng: there are loads of native email clients
[00:56] <Dmole> outlook on mac is nice, windows sucks
[00:56] <merryman540> Can I mount windows created otfe containers in linux?
[00:57] <stueng> email clients that pale in signgicance to the features available in an exchange/outlook configuration
[00:57] <harris_> how do you unlock ubuntu 12,04 with facial unlock
[00:57] <nulldev> the only time Linux fails is with m$ protocols i.e exchange
[00:57] <joint> stueng just use gmail
[00:57] <nulldev> postfix did the job for years
[00:57] <zuma99> thanks ActionParsnip i can't seem to get changelogs for the recent updates, such as for libsnmp-base which was updated this week
[00:57] <bsmith093> i need qt4.7 stuff for lucid for a little downloader ive been using for 5 months now that recently broke, how do i get it?
[00:58] <Guest16788> i've spent a few hours installing ubuntu 12.04 on a friends macbook pro (i've been asking her for years to try it out), and many more hours trying to troubleshoot a NO SOUND issue. not much info on the internet, and i've tried everything i know. anyone here good at troubleshooting sound problems? if i can't get this sorted, it's a deal breaker for her
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> stueng: thats the kicker, exchange. If you get a groupwise server you'll see all that is available in evolution
[00:58] <zuma99> when i try (using aptitude) i get Couldn't fetch URL http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/n/net-snmp/net-snmp_5.4.2.1~dfsg0ubuntu1-0ubuntu2.2/changelog
[00:58] <zuma99> because there actually isn't a changelog posted there
[00:58] <zuma99> i was just wondering where to report something like this
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> zuma99: try:  sudo apt-get update
[00:58] <nulldev> you can connect to an exchange server via imap
[00:59] <nulldev> nothing m$ with imap
[00:59] <Ben64> is there any easy guide to upgrading 10.04 to 12.04 without unity and keeping gnome-panel
[00:59] <zuma99> ActionParsnip well, actually the update itself installed fine
[00:59] <bluefox83> ok so, i created a new user and it can log into gnome or unity just fine, my orignal user account on the other hand...can't. how do i fix that?
[00:59] <bluefox83> whenever it tries to login to the other one, it just returns to the login screen
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: sudo do-release-upgrade    should do it
[01:00] <zuma99> it's just the changelog that doesn't seem to be there (for other of the packages that were updated this week also)
[01:00] <harris_> how do you unlock ubuntu 12,04 with facial unlock
[01:00] <merryman540> Maybe I could mount the windows created otfe containers in linux using truecrypt?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> zuma99: as there bugs reported?
[01:00] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: did you see the second half of the question?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: you will probably get unity installed but you have gnome-panel installed which will also be installed
[01:01] <harris_> how do you unlock ubuntu 12,04 with facial unlock
[01:01] <zuma99> ActionParsnip yes, the changelog is normally useful because it shows what bugs are fixed.  i normally look at them when i do updates
[01:01] <bluefox83> harris_: you can't
[01:01] <harris_> yes you can i have seen youtube
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> zuma99: could use http://www.launchpad.net
[01:01] <bluefox83> harris_: then find the youtube instructions
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: you can with a ppa
[01:01] <bluefox83> because no one here knows how
[01:01] <harris_> it doesnt have any
[01:01] <zuma99> ActionParsnip thanks...i'll give that a try
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> harris_: you could reinstall with Oneiric and use that guide I posted
[01:01] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: i have yet to see a way to keep the same functionality with 12.04
[01:02] <nulldev> harris sounds like your using gentoo not ubuntu
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> Ben64:
[01:02]  * bluefox83 has seen no end of trouble with 12.04
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[01:02] <Ben64> ooh, the title sounds good, thanks
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: i've had the same, I just deleted the hidden folders in $HOME and logged in ok
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: its just using gnome-panel as the shell instead of Unity, nothing clever
[01:03] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: are you kidding me? there are lots of hidden folders in there!
[01:03] <harris_> ActionParsnip, is there a code that lets you run old apps
[01:03] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: don't need clever :)
[01:03] <nulldev> lol a deleting hidden folders in /home
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: like I said, you already have gnome-panel installed and it will be upgraded with the rest
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> harris_: no, unfortunately not. You could contact the PPA maintainer to see if s/he will support Precise later
[01:04] <Silversong> When 12.10 comes out full release, should I stick with this LTS Precise or upgrade?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> nulldev: $HOME not /home
[01:04] <Ben64> Silversong: depends what you want
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> nulldev: it made it work for me :)
[01:04] <nulldev> $HOME is /home
[01:04] <Silversong> Ben64: What's new in Q.Q.?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: you could always back them up and restore one by one
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> nulldev: $HOME == /home/$USER
[01:05] <KRomoSex> i have a question, when new versions of ubuntu come out can i just upgrade over existing install
[01:05] <KRomoSex> or must i use an iso every time
[01:05] <Ben64> Silversong: "As this will be the first of a series of three releases before the next LTS release, Shuttleworth indicated that it will include a refreshed look, with work to be done on typography and iconography."
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> KRomoSex: yes, you can upgrade to the next realease
[01:05] <KRomoSex> do i even need an iso or will it update itself?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> KRomoSex: if you stay on the LTS release, you can upgrade to the next LTS when it comes out
[01:06] <nulldev> $HOME is a variable == is a checksum it could have been = /home/$user is replaced by the var
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> nulldev: try:  echo $HOME
[01:06] <KRomoSex> what makes lts diff from anything else?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> KRomoSex: longer support, trying to get more stable packages in the repos
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> !lts
[01:06] <nulldev> enviroment variable too sorry
[01:06] <KRomoSex> how often are there lts versions?
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> KRomoSex: every 2 years
[01:07] <KRomoSex> oh
[01:07] <KRomoSex> i didnt think that long
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> KRomoSex: 12.04 (Precise) is LTS
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> KRomoSex: its also the newest stable release
[01:07] <GG111> when I hit the "super" key and try to search for any application, nothing shows up. how can I fix it ?
[01:07] <KRomoSex> is lts the only stable releases?
[01:08] <harris_> how to run oneric programs on percise
[01:08] <bluefox83> i can't figure out why the heck my main user is locked out :(
[01:08] <zizoo> Hey guys. I don't know the word for this or I'd have looked it up, but how can I create a stream to aggregate input from multiple sources and feed them into another program's stdin?
[01:09] <harris_> how to run oneric programs on percise
[01:09] <Ben64> harris_: you don't
[01:09] <harris_> i need to though
[01:09] <strictland> hello everyone, so i am almost done configuring samba, I ran testparm and got http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014017/, here is my smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014020/. I'm concerned about 3 warning messages 1- WARNING: The "null passwords" option is deprecated 2-WARNING: The security=share option is deprecated and 3-WARNING: 'workgroup' and 'netbios name' must differ. -Any help is appreciated!
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> GG111: I've seen this, gomme a sec
[01:10] <Ben64> harris_: then compile it yourself?
[01:10] <nulldev> samba same as m$ sucks
[01:10] <harris_> what does compile mean
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> harris_: you don't NEED face unlocking. you WANT it, there is a world of differnce
[01:10] <Ben64> !compile | harris_
[01:10] <KRomoSex> so, wuill 12.10 be the next lts?
[01:10] <Dmole> nm found docx4j
[01:10] <IdleOne> !guidelines > nulldev
[01:10] <MagicJ> I have a system where lpstat is showing that the printer, which is just a generic printer, is "accepting requests", it seems to be too, in that I cal "lp" files to it.  Yet the jobs just remain in the queue - I know that if I remove and re-install the printer (software) it will work again.  But then be lost when I re-boot - how do I find/fix what is wrong here?
[01:10] <harris_> i remeber being told a code that let me
[01:11] <Ben64> KRomoSex: 14.04
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> GG111: mv ~/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite ~       log off, then log on
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> KRomoSex: the first number is the year, the second is the month ;)
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> harris_: you can but its not supported or advised and will more than likely break your OS
[01:12] <KRomoSex> so.....i see 12.10 is in beta when is that scheduled for release as stable?
[01:12] <Guest71809> I was wondering what is the best Linux distro to start off on I meaning learning in a command line not a GUI interface:)
[01:12] <Ben64> KRomoSex: 12.10 = 2012.10
[01:12] <zizoo> I just want a realtime output text stream that I can send input to manually or by other scripts and have it go into my program as its standard input.
[01:12] <joint> kromo.. october
[01:12] <zizoo> Or even for someone to just tell me what search terms I should use to find that.
[01:12] <harushimo> what is the vmplayer for ubuntu?
[01:13] <Ben64> zizoo: mkfifo?
[01:13] <KRomoSex> so last dumb question....do i want to upgrade from 12.04 lts to 12.10 when 12.10 is released?
[01:13] <harushimo> I'm using virtual box. I'm just curious about the vm player
[01:13] <KRomoSex> why wait for lts?
[01:13] <Ben64> KRomoSex: if you want to
[01:13] <joint> kromo.. most likely.. if you like to run the most updated stuff
[01:13] <zizoo> Ah! Thanks Ben64. This looks exactly right.
[01:14] <KRomoSex>  Ubuntu 12.04.1 august 23rd is next major rel?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> KRomoSex: its a personal choice, some people do. I like grabbing the latest Alpha releases
[01:14] <Shant_> Is this the right place for support quesiotns?
[01:14] <Ben64> Shant_: for ubuntu, yes
[01:14] <KRomoSex> i wanted to grab alpha releases but i hosed my systyem yesterda when i installed kernel 3.4
[01:15] <UltimediaOS> hey ppl... somebody knows a good IRC client package ?
[01:15] <joint> not major... thats just an update for 12.04
[01:15] <KRomoSex> so now idk what to do
[01:15] <joint> ubuntu releases a new os every 6 months. the lts is more for businesses or people who dont like to update all the time
[01:15] <Shant_> I changed some appearance settings in my superuser account, in 12.04, and now when I try to login, it jsut freezes. I am on the Guest account, can I access the user's options form the guest account?
[01:16] <Guest71809> what is the best OS for low performance I dont want Ubuntu
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> Shant_, you tweaked compiz?
[01:16] <KRomoSex> isnt there lubuntu?
[01:16] <joint> try mint with mate
[01:16] <Shant_> Well, I did to reduce icon sizes, but that's not what caused the problem
[01:17] <Shant_> The problem was when I truned off sticky edges
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> joink, mint is not a issue here and not supported
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> UltimediaOS: pidgin for me, I'm on irssi from work now :)
[01:17] <Shant_> And I set the unity launcher to only appear on one screen (dual screen)
[01:17] <Guest71809> KRomosex: I uesed that before and it sucket it was not even for lower perfornce. Am looking for something that does not use a lot of memmory
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> joint, mint is not a issue here and not supported
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> KRomoSex: thats because its a 3rd party kernel. 3.4 is for Quantal
[01:17] <joint> mint is ubuntu
[01:18] <Ben64> mint is not ubuntu
[01:18] <Ben64> !mint
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> joint: mint is mint, ubuntu is ubuntu
[01:18] <tr3nton> I have installed a package via a deb, replacing the version installed from the repo's. Is there a recommended way to enforce the package manager not to update the software from the repo?
[01:18] <tr3nton> I did do : echo "nvidia-current hold" | dpkg --set-selections, as suggested at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto ; but this doesn't seem to apply in the gui update-manager ..... do i have to use synaptic package manager (gui) to prevent the update coming through in update-manager?
[01:18] <reisio> it is Ubuntu, but that doesn't mean it's supported here :p
[01:18] <Guest71809> Is there a distro out there that uses low memory?????
[01:18] <joint> i wasnt supporting it...
[01:18] <reisio> Guest71809: how low?
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest71809: Lubuntu
[01:18] <reisio> joint: nothing else to say, then :)
[01:18] <joint> ok then.. so be quiet :)
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest71809: tinycore, puppy, feather, slitaz
[01:18] <reisio> no! :p
[01:19] <reisio> Guest71809: except none of those
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest71809: if you want super low, just install ubuntu minimal then install fluxbox :)
[01:19] <Guest71809> reisio: ActionParsnip: I used lubuntu it did not work for what am looking for:) Am looking for the internet and office work that is it:)
[01:19] <joint> ben 64 in marketing yes... technically, no
[01:19] <reisio> Guest71809: how'd lubuntu not manage that?
[01:19] <OptimizedCoder> Basic UNIX/LINUX question. Saw once a program/app/binary is started with a set of args/flags (that you parse in that app/program), its allocated a pid. Afterwards - without killing the process, is it possible to append another flag/arg?
[01:19] <joint> mint is ubuntu with alternative desktops
[01:20] <robotdevil> Is the fglrx driver pooched for 12.04?
[01:20] <Guest71809> reisio: It was taken so much memory:(
[01:20] <reisio> OptimizedCoder: sometimes, sometimes not
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> joint: and has its own repos and different settings
[01:20] <reisio> OptimizedCoder: things you can modify after starting are often called daemons
[01:20] <OptimizedCoder> reisio, What do you mean by that ?
[01:20] <Shant_> Anyone know how to change superuser settings from guest account in 12.04?
[01:20] <reisio> OptimizedCoder: just what I said :P
[01:20] <joint> action.. it uses the ubuntu repos
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> joint: on your theory you could say mint is debian, which it isnt
[01:20] <reisio> Shant_: by knowing the root password
[01:20] <Ben64> Guest71809: could use damnsmalllinux
[01:20] <Shant_> yes but where do I go
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> joint: doesn't matter, its still not supported here
[01:20] <OptimizedCoder> reisio, Lets say I start it in a daemonized/backgrounded fashion to begin with
[01:20] <joint> ubuntu is debian...
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> Shant_: you can reset passwords from the root recovery mode
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> joint: its not, its ubuntu
[01:21] <Guest71809> I have 4GB of Ram and my computer over heats really easy and I need a Operating system that does not use alot of anything so it can keep cool. Ben64: Am going to see about that one Damnsmallinux:)
[01:21] <joint> ok then...
[01:21] <joint> i must have read wrong
[01:21] <Shant_> I have passwords, I just screwed uo some display settings, and I need to change them from guest
[01:21] <Ben64> Guest71809: you could just fix the overheating problem. :)
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> joint: if ubuntu is debian, you could get ubuntu support in #debian but they will simply tell you to ask here
[01:22] <reisio> joint: you read right, it's just off topic :p
[01:22] <joint> action not really.. it depends on the question they ask
[01:22] <reisio> ActionParsnip: only if you tell them you're using Ubuntu :p
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> joint: its a different distro so isn't suported there
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> joint: its really quite simple
[01:22] <joint> ok like i said before.. i wasnt supporting it
[01:22] <joint> you seem to keep talking about it though
[01:23] <Shant_> Joint, you might be misunderstanding the meaning of support?
[01:23] <MechanisM> hello. who can help me with creating ppa?
[01:23] <joint> please stop harrasing me
[01:23] <reisio> joint: it's just they don't want you idly chatting about it here, either :p
[01:23] <joint> please
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: I'd ask in #launchpad
[01:24] <joint> like i said. i wasnt supporting it
[01:24] <Guest71809> Ben64: But how can I fix that I dont have alot of opition in my BIOS:)
[01:24] <Shant_> I will ask again, yes or no
[01:24] <Shant_> Oh sorry
[01:25] <robotdevil> Is the fglrx driver broken for 12.04?
[01:25] <reisio> joint: right, but they don't want you even making the comparison, as it's not the purpose of thise channel :p
[01:25] <joint> lol you still talking?
[01:25] <reisio> robotdevil: try another kernel
[01:25] <reisio> joint: are you? :p
[01:26] <joint> no i was in the bathroom...
[01:26] <Shant_> Just, yes or no, is it possible from the guest account, on 12.04, to change the settings of the superuser account, knowing the password, because when I login to SU account, the computer crashes.
[01:26] <robotdevil> reisio: you mean an older version
[01:26] <reisio> I don't talk in there, either
[01:26] <wylde> Guest71809: clean the fans/ports, and/or replace failing fans etc?
[01:26] <reisio> robotdevil: or newer
[01:26] <reisio> Shant_: yes of course
[01:26] <Shant_> Where would I go?
[01:26] <reisio> Shant_: that depends on what you want to change
[01:26] <Shant_> Appearance settings
[01:27] <reisio> Shant_: what about them
[01:27] <robotdevil> reisio: can you dl form synaptic, would nt may system already have the newest one
[01:27] <Guest71809> wylde: I clean the fan or ready. I bought a new fan and I took it back because people said it was worth less to buy one. But it keeping doing the same thing I need that fan again:)
[01:27] <UltimediaOS> ActionParsnip: i enjoy  pidgin myself :D - but i you hangle several accounts it gets confusing
[01:27] <robotdevil> reisio: avaliable in the repo that is
[01:27] <Shant_> Well, when I turned off sticky edges and, on dual screen, set the launcher to be on only one, the computer kept crashing, so I want to change it back
[01:27] <wylde> Guest71809: I bet the folks in #hardware would have lots of suggestions for you.
[01:27] <reisio> robotdevil: it might, it might not
[01:28] <robotdevil> reisio: ok
[01:28] <K350> midnight commander question. What key(s) opens the menu?
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> UltimediaOS: I only use it for IRC, its an old habit
[01:28] <reisio> Shant_: 'su - user', 'cd', 'mv ~/.config/ ~/backup1.config/'
[01:28] <joint> shant what radeon do you have?
[01:28] <reisio> K350: menu?
[01:29] <Shant_> Are those to be typed one at a time in the terminal?
[01:29] <reisio> Shant_: yup
[01:29] <joint> the ubuntu supplied amd driver is not always the best solution for the later, and more powerful video cards
[01:29] <K350> reisio: yes - menu.
[01:30] <reisio> K350: didn't realize mc had a menu
[01:30] <K350> reisio: It has :-)
[01:31] <Shant_> reisio: when I type su - shant, (the user), then fill the password, it says setgid: Operation not permitted
[01:31] <Zaehlas> Anyone here familiar with the default installation of unetbootin?  I'm having issues on one of my computers where the "browse" doesn't show any files on the computer, and not sure if it's using wine or it's own config file to determine where it is looking for a file system...
[01:32] <Guest4414> Hello I have a problem which no matter what I have tried hasn't been fixed, and I believe you pros will be able to help me out.
[01:33] <Guest4414> I have two monitors and Nvidia X Server Settings detects both but the Ubuntu default "Displays" does not.
[01:33] <reisio> Guest4414: so... what's the problem?
[01:33] <Guest4414> I can not use my second display at all.
[01:34] <escott> Shant_, have you tried logging in to tty1 and doing the mv that way? ctrl-alt-f1
[01:34] <reisio> Guest4414: it displays, but doesn't work?
[01:35] <Guest4414> Let me upload a screenshot.
[01:35] <Jordan_U> Shant_: ctrl+alt+F7 or F8 to get back to a GUI.
[01:35] <Shant_> escott: I am not sure I understand "doing the mv"
[01:36] <Jordan_U> escott: Whenever mentioning switching to another tty, meake sure that the user knows how to get *back* or you'll just see the ping timeout in the channel as they pull the plug to reboot :)
[01:36] <Zaehlas> if no one is here that is familiar with unetbootin, is there a room I can check with?  #unetbootin exists, but no one is there...
[01:36] <escott> Shant_, reisio suggested you "su and then execute mv ~/.config ..." but you could also just ctrl-alt-f1, login as shant there and directly run the mv
[01:36] <cog> How do I scan for viruses?
[01:37] <Guest4414> http://bit.ly/JsQCtY
[01:37] <joint> use microsoft security essentials
[01:37] <escott> Shant_, ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to the gui
[01:37] <Zaehlas> rofl
[01:37] <botan> hey guys, i am using grsync to backup some files - i get 8 files with errors: http://pastebin.com/Xkaketqr  -- i wonder if it is a filename issue or what is going wrong?
[01:37] <Jordan_U> !virus | cog
[01:37] <Fezzler> Switched to Lubuntu last night.  Was on 11.10.  Update Manager wants me to upgrade to 12.X.  Should I?  Will I stall have LXDE?
[01:37] <Guest4414> http://bit.ly/JsQCtY <---- Screenshot of Nvidia + default ubuntu displays
[01:39] <phix> hmmm is there are way to tell newly opened applications to get focus and go on top of other windows?  I open up nautalis and it opens but doesn't pop up automatically
[01:39] <Jordan_U> Guest4414: That's expected when using proprietary drivers. Ubuntu's Display manager should have also given you a warning about that though.
[01:39] <Guest4414> So what should  I do?
[01:40] <Jordan_U> Guest4414: Use Nvidia's configuration tool.
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> phix: what session are you logging i to?
[01:41] <Guest4414> Jordan_U: May you be a little more specific?
[01:41] <phix> ActionParsnip: gnome fall back
[01:41] <phix> ActionParsnip: I absolutely hate unity, it is the worst decision Ubuntu has made so far
[01:41] <phix> well besides using / forcing network manager
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> phix: using Compiz or not?
[01:42] <phix> ActionParsnip: not
[01:42] <phix> ActionParsnip: I have disbaled all pretty gfx effects and what not
[01:42] <Jordan_U> Guest4414: In your screenshot the tool on the right is Nvidia's configuration tool, the tool on the left is Ubuntu's. As long as you're using Nvidia's drivers you'll also need to use Nvidia's configuration tool.
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> phix: makes the OS more stable :). I hate compiz as much as you seem to hate Unity :D
[01:43] <Guest4414> I have tried to enable it through that it does nothing. ;(]
[01:45] <Spudster> Anyone know of a simpler way of doing this in Ubuntu without creating a Ruby script? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1578087
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> Guest4414: if you hit detect displays a lot, does the other display jump up?
[01:46] <Guest4414> ActionParsnip: Nope.
[01:47] <KRomoSex> i just installed google chrome and when watching videos, the audio is crackly
[01:47] <KRomoSex> doesnt do it on chromium 19
[01:48] <GG111> ActionParsnip: thank you , will try and report back
[01:48] <Apocalyptikz> O
[01:49] <Apocalyptikz> I'm trying to get my user back to default. What files do I need to rename?
[01:50] <escott> Apocalyptikz, /var/log/Xorg.0.log. to go back to what you had you would "rm -rf .config; mv .config.bak .config"
[01:51] <phuongvo> Hi, I don't know how to use scalatest. Can you help me?
[01:53] <ForSpareParts2> Hey guys, I'm trying to chroot into a failed upgrade to finish it -- how can I tell what in /dev/ is my hard drive?
[01:53] <vexaxv> hey guys on ubuntu 12.04 how do i edit my partitions, im using gparted but sda is active because im using ubuntu so is there a way to boot into gparted withought booting into my hard drive to edit the partitions
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> vexaxv: use liveCD
[01:54] <dwarder> guys, cheap vps?
[01:54] <vexaxv> ActionParsnip, thanks
[01:54] <Apocalyptikz> escott, I see "fglrx: No matching Device section for instance... found"
[01:56] <KRomoSex> anyone having trouble with adobe flash 11.3 beta?
[01:56] <KRomoSex> the audio seems to crackle, 11.2 works fine
[01:57] <joint> i wouldnt use a flash beta
[01:57] <KRomoSex> ok
[01:57] <Fezzler> I was on 11.10 and Unity but switched to Lubuntu and LXDE.  Should I upgrade to 12.04, even though I've gone Lubuntu?
[01:58] <tr3nton> ForSpareParts2: df ?
[01:58] <vexaxv> any idea why i have a extended 5 gig partition on ubuntu 12.04? im installing on someone elses pc and it doesent give an option for extended partition
[01:58] <ForSpareParts2> Sorry, what does df mean?
[01:58] <vexaxv> can i just delete it?
[01:59] <tr3nton> !df | ForSpareParts2
[02:00] <ForSpareParts2> tr3nton, thanks.
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> Fezzler: you can use LXDE in 12.04
[02:01] <bluefox83> ok, so i discovered that only my primary user is locked out of X, i created a new user and it accesses X just fine. so why can't my main user get past the login screen?
[02:02] <shawny78> how does one get their Radeon 5850 working properly on Ubuntu 10.11  ... also, how can one test that it is working?
[02:02] <Fezzler> ActionParsnip>> Thanks.  Any benefit to upgrade if using LXDE?
[02:02] <sciso> hi i am trying to use the Hud but it will only give me desktop options nothing todo with the active app
[02:02] <Fezzler> ActionParsnip>> Everything working.  Hate to mess with it.
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> ezsmoke:
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> Fezzler: later drivers, newer kernel etc
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> Fezzler: if it ain't broke, don't fix it :)
[02:03] <shawny78> ....11.10
[02:03] <cryptothesly> vexaxv, the extended partition most likely contains swap space. Have a look at /etc/fstab to see if that is the case - although that can be confusing if you chose the option to ecrypt home dir during install
[02:03] <AcidRain2012> my box hates me.
[02:04] <AcidRain2012> still havent fixed why software center wont click "install now" button
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain2012: if you close software centre and run:  gksudo software-center    does it work ok?
[02:05] <sciso> bluefox83 have you tried logging into ubity 2d or any other desktop environment
[02:06] <defrysk> I would like to congrat the developers of ubuntu with Unity , I hated it but for some reason it run flawless in 1204 . Maybe I should see a doctor for appreciating unity in 1204?
[02:07] <ForSpareParts2> Okay, so I'm pretty sure my disk is /dev/sda
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> defrysk: tastes change dude :)
[02:07] <ForSpareParts2> but I can't mount it.
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> ForSpareParts2: you don't mount /dev/sda
[02:07] <ForSpareParts2> OK. What do I do?
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> ForSpareParts2: you mount the partitions on the drive
[02:07] <defrysk> ActionParsnip, I guess it can :-)
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> ForSpareParts2: the first partition will most likely be /dev/sda1
[02:08] <sciso> hi i am trying to use the Hud but it will only give me desktop options nothing todo with the active app has any1 else had this
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> sciso: tried it in lots of apps?
[02:08] <ForSpareParts2> ActionParsnip, so when I try to mount that, it says that I "must specify the filesystem type"
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> sciso: like gimp
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> ForSpareParts2: what file system does it use?
[02:09] <ForSpareParts2> Whatever the Ubuntu default is, I believe.
[02:09] <sciso> ive tryed gimp gedit and firefox
[02:09] <sciso> ActionParsnip,  ive tryed gimp gedit and firefox
[02:11] <Fezzler> ActionParsnip>> Amen to that.  I'll run updates but not upgrade yet
[02:11] <dwarder> anyone uses vps?
[02:12] <dwarder> i need a cheap one to install vpn
[02:12] <dwarder> will that 1$/month https://www.fastvps.co/ do the trick
[02:12] <dwarder> ?
[02:12] <shawny78> ok, maybe a different question, can anyone tell me why my HD5850 would be telling me that it is a 6800?
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> Fezzler: could wait for it to die then clean install / upgrade to Precise :)
[02:13] <OerHeks> dwarder, does it run on ubuntu  ?
[02:13] <dwarder> OerHeks: yes
[02:13] <Fezzler> ActionParsnip>> LOL.  I'm planning to run this AMD K6-266 to 2020
[02:14] <cryptothesly> dwarder, what do you intend to run on it? I can't imagine a $1 vps having much allocated 'grunt'.
[02:15] <dwarder> cryptothesly: vps
[02:15] <dwarder> cryptothesly: vpn
[02:15] <dwarder> sorry
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> Fezzler: I would too :)
[02:16] <dwarder> cryptothesly: openvpn
[02:16] <dwarder> cryptothesly: server
[02:17] <cryptothesly> dwarder, not sure how far you are going to get with just 128MB ram on that $1 thing. I'm not sure that even meets ubuntu server min requirements
[02:18] <CoJaBo> Is it possible to install MeshLab on Jaunty? Old, I know, but I cannot update this machine :/
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo: jaunty isnt supported anymore
[02:19] <CoJaBo> ActionParsnip: I know; I cannot take the machine down long enough to do an upgrade.
[02:19] <patrick__> Hello I am back and my problem is a little better now but could be better
[02:20] <CoJaBo> The problem is tho, it gives syntax errors even trying to compile it; and the MeshLab documentation is down.
[02:20] <patrick__> My second screen is just white
[02:20] <OerHeks> CoJaBo, well, there is a trick, add "old-releases  > http://www.snowfrog.net/2009/05/02/apt-sourceslist-for-old-versions-of-ubuntu/
[02:21] <ForSpareParts2> ActionParsnip, I'm not sure what my filesystem is, but ext4 doesn't seem to work...
[02:21] <ForSpareParts2> er, nevermind
[02:21] <ForSpareParts2> It was SDA2.
[02:21] <cryptothesly> dwarder, just checked - 128MB is minimum requirement for ubuntu server. You might just get away running openvpn on that vps although I thin you'll be relying on burst RAM most of the time which may or may not be useable.
[02:21]  * ForSpareParts2 facepalms.
[02:22] <dwarder> cryptothesly: ok, i'll just try
[02:22] <CoJaBo> OerHeks: I've done that already; the error I get trying to install from apt is "Package meshlab is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:22] <CoJaBo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:22] <CoJaBo> is only available from another source
[02:22] <CoJaBo> E: Package meshlab has no installation candidate
[02:22] <CoJaBo> that was supposed to be one line..
[02:22] <FloodBot1> CoJaBo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:22] <cryptothesly> dwarder, worth a shot as long as there is no long term contract tie-in - check the T&Cs before committing.
[02:23] <CoJaBo> OerHeks: I'm not sure why it wouldn't at least compile tho :/
[02:23] <dwarder> cryptothesly: well, i'll have to pay for a year so it is 12$ per year
[02:24] <Cerrdor> Ok I installed eggdrop from apt-get now where the heck is it?
[02:24] <OerHeks> CoJaBo, upgrade to 12.04 or better a fresh install
[02:25] <CoJaBo> OerHeks: The machine I can do that on is an Intel Atom; the good one, I cannot upgrade at this time.
[02:26] <artalee> heloo.. help me
[02:26] <reisio> done
[02:27] <artalee> i have a problem in procces remastering
[02:27] <Cerrdor> Ok I installed eggdrop from apt-get now where the heck is it?
[02:28] <CaptWho> can someone recommend a ddns service?
[02:28] <jrib> CaptWho: no-ip.com?
[02:28] <cryptothesly> dwarder, I'd be inclined to take the FAST256MB $2.99 for a month and use that to assess the reliability of the servers and get an accurate idea of actual ram usage, then commit to the year sub for $12 if it fits.
[02:28] <jrib> CaptWho: dpkg -L eggdrop, but why do you need to know?
[02:28] <jrib> cryptothesly: erm, ignore my last
[02:28] <jrib> agh!@
[02:29] <jrib> CaptWho: erm, ignore my last
[02:29] <cryptothesly> lol
[02:29] <jrib> Cerrdor: dpkg -L eggdrop, but why do you need to know
[02:29] <jrib> cryptothesly: 3 c's in a row :P
[02:29] <thauriswulfa> HELP: how to set different wallpapers for different workspaces on xubuntu?
[02:29] <cryptothesly> jrib, autocomplete wins xD
[02:29] <Cerrdor> So I can configure
[02:30] <ZeloZelos> thauriswulfa, you can do it with compiz..only way i know of
[02:30] <jrib> Cerrdor: should probably read the docs that got installed with it
[02:30] <dwarder> cryptothesly: yeah, i'll take one month fast 256
[02:30] <CoJaBo> Ahh, theres enough space I can dual-boot.. That might work...
[02:30] <CaptWho> jrib -  i want to host my mail server
[02:30] <Cerrdor> cant read the docs if you dont know where its located
[02:30] <Cerrdor> now can we
[02:30] <jrib> Cerrdor: I just gave you a command
[02:30] <ZeloZelos> thauriswulfa, actualy , thats the only way i know of that dosent make it to where you cant see your icons
[02:31] <thauriswulfa> thauriswulfa: so not possible without compiz?
[02:31] <xoke> Hellp
[02:31] <xoke> Hello?
[02:31] <AVP> does blender 2.49b has the transparency function?
[02:31] <xoke>  I saw online an opening for op here
[02:31] <bazhang> AVP, try #blender
[02:31] <CoJaBo> OerHeks: Does meshlab install from apt-get on 12.x? It did not on my 11.x machine..
[02:32] <OerHeks> !info meshlab
[02:32] <AVP> bazhang, nobody answered
[02:32] <bazhang> AVP, be patient
[02:33] <AVP> bazhang, ok
[02:36] <longbaohoang> hi there
[02:36] <longbaohoang> anything funny here
[02:36] <tonesfrommars> lolz
[02:36] <bazhang> !ot | longbaohoang
[02:37] <joint> yea.. take a look in the mirror!
[02:37] <lix> bazhang: which implies, Ubuntu is not funny?
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> lix: this is support only..
[02:38] <tr3nton> !funny
[02:38] <ZeloZelos> bazhang goto #ubuntu-offtopic and bs away :)
[02:39] <joint> they booted me out of ubuntu-offtopic for talking about the new world order
[02:39]  * lix thinks joint is funny
[02:39] <cryptothesly> quelle surprise
[02:39] <dr_willis> its ot to talk about ot.
[02:41] <dr_willis> main us servers been slow this holiday weekend?  or has it just been some isp issues ive been having?
[02:41] <longbaohoang> Sorry, but I'm new here. Just wanna ask that can I install Ubuntu dual with Windows 7.
[02:41] <bazhang> !dualboot | longbaohoang
[02:41] <dr_willis> longbaohoang: yes. thats a common way to do it
[02:42] <dr_willis> longbaohoang:  hopefully your pc maker has not used 4 primary partitions on the hard drive allready
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: tried apt-fast ?
[02:43] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  seen that mentioned, not tried it.
[02:44] <dr_willis> seems onb the weekends my server speeds get slow to the updates.. or it may be my isp/connection gets slow due to all the people watching netflix,  or somthing. ;)
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: it's apt-get + axel  downloads from 3 places, makes things faster#
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: might help with the slowness
[02:44] <longbaohoang> I have a ThinkPad X220t, if I try to cut my C partitions and install Ubuntu, will I lost my laptop factory reset?
[02:45] <reisio> longbaohoang: only if something goes wrong
[02:45] <dr_willis> longbaohoang:  most pcs have a 'restore' partition you shoud always make a restore-dvd set if you want to keep windows.
[02:46] <reisio> well, you should always make a backup of anything you want to be sure to have a copy of
[02:46] <reisio> burning to DVDs is one way to do that
[02:46] <reisio> another is to dd to a file on another disk
[02:46] <dr_willis> even if you dont put linux on it... allways make a set or 2 of those
[02:46] <reisio> waste of time
[02:46] <escott> longbaohoang, i've found that those "windows recovery dvd's" never work. the only thing that seems to work is a windows backup to an external device
[02:46] <reisio> an external drive will serve you better in the long run, cost less in the long run, and be simpler to use immediately
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> reisio: PITA more like
[02:47] <dr_willis> i tend to just buy a new hard drive for my laptops ;) keep the original somewhere safe. and replace it with one that always seems to be 2x tghe size for just a few $
[02:47] <reisio> ActionParsnip: yeah
[02:47] <reisio> I... don't backup Windows anymore
[02:47] <longbaohoang> But my laptop have no DVD driver. It's a X series, you know.
[02:47] <reisio> after deleting so many 50GB backups, you learn to not waste your time doing it any longer
[02:47] <reisio> I might backup a reinstall partition, as those are usually no more than 10GB
[02:47] <dr_willis> longbaohoang:  external usb optical drives are cheap
[02:48] <reisio> but only for other people not myself :p
[02:48] <lix> longbaohoang: us a memorystick instead
[02:48] <cryptothesly> longbaohoang, use the Windows utilities to resize a Windows partition. Anything after XP tends to get all twisted if you use something like gParted to manipulate them.
[02:48] <reisio> nah gparted will work
[02:48] <reisio> but there's no 100% guarantee it will
[02:48] <dr_willis> i tend to keep a laptop for like 2 years then pass it on to my brother or other faimly. so its easier for me to pop back in that old laptops original hd. and they got a new system ;)
[02:48] <reisio> it's more like 98%
[02:48] <escott> cryptothesly, i've never had a problem
[02:48] <cryptothesly> escott, lucky you
[02:49] <reisio> could be luck :p
[02:49] <reisio> could be something else :D
[02:50] <escott> cryptothesly, im just wondering if there is something unusual about your windows systems. but i've moved NTFS partitions all around the disk and its always booted just fine
[02:51] <reisio> it's definitely a good idea to defrag first
[02:52] <dr_willis> defragging... how quaint.. ;P
[02:52] <reisio> indeed :p
[02:53] <dr_willis> always amuseing to  see the look on a windows users face when you tell them that youve never needed to  defrag  your linux box...,
[02:53] <lix> defrag is ot, guys!
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> yeah dr_willis  you install to ext2...right :)
[02:53] <dr_willis> BEosFs! ;)
[02:54] <reisio> dr_willis: and other things
[02:54] <dr_willis> Havent heard much news on the 'new filesystems' front lately either.
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> keep user docs, swap space, temp  and system on different partitions in windows and you wont have to defrag windows nearly as much
[02:55] <dr_willis> ive had newly formated hard drives.. i copy a few files to.. then windows tools say its fragmenetd..  at less then 1% iin use... go  figure.
[02:55] <cryptothesly> escott, nothing unusual - factory restore partition, followed by a Win7 partition. Resizing the Win7 partition using gParted has caused it to go dirty twice. Not had that problem using disk utils in Win7. Hardly empirical science I know :)
[02:56] <dr_willis> What is the name of the next generation Filesystem that was all the rage a few months back? Btrfs? i havent seen it mentioned on blog sites lately
[02:56] <cryptothesly> Is that B-tree based?
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: i tried it on my lappy, seemed to run slower
[02:57] <cryptothesly> Seem to remember B-tree being the next big thing 5 years ago...  think that was in relation to databases though.
[02:58] <AVP> hey i use 10.04 can it run tar.gz apps?
[02:58] <KRomo> i think im gonna go back to win 7 lol
[02:58] <KRomo> very frustrated tonight
[02:59] <KRomo> anyone running google chrome on ubuntu?
[03:00] <cryptothesly> AVP, tar.gz are compressed archives. Whether you can run what is contained in them depends on what it is really.
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: i do
[03:01] <KRomo> i need help with it
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: whats teh issue?
[03:01] <cryptothesly> KRomo, sorry to hear that. Chromium seems to be running OK here if that's any help :/
[03:02] <dr_willis> Chrome/CHromium working  on my ubuntu box fine  here also.
[03:02] <dr_willis> Andchat on my phone however..... still crashing. :)
[03:02] <KRomo> i keep getting aprofile error
[03:02] <AVP> cryptothesly: so that's a no no
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: tried renaming your profile folder for Chrome?
[03:03] <KRomo> how do i get to thew folder?
[03:03] <KRomo> now out of the blue, the error is gone
[03:03] <dr_willis> self correcting ;)
[03:03] <KRomo> grrrr
[03:03] <KRomo> lol
[03:04] <lix> #ubuntu is magic
[03:04] <dr_willis> so .. do we still send KRomo  a bill? ;)
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: test for a few days
[03:04] <KRomo> lol
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: sure, for the same price as the OS ;)
[03:04] <KRomo> i feel like sucha tool lol
[03:04]  * dr_willis closes the ticket
[03:04]  * lix sends the bill
[03:05] <tr3nton> I find some of the about://flags in chrome(ium) cause that profile error for me, occasionally
[03:05] <KRomo> every time i opened chrom,e it said myt profile couldnt be read and then my history was empty
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> speeddial2 in chrome is awesome
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: is it ok now though?
[03:06] <KRomo> it seems so :)
[03:06] <KRomo> i didnt do anything tho
[03:06] <dr_willis> KRomo:  wonder if you ever accidently ran the browser as root.  that can goof up permissions on some files
[03:06] <cryptothesly> AVP, it's not a no no for sure. tar.gz can quite happily be extracted on Ubuntu. Whether what is contained will run on Ubuntu will depend on whether it is already compiled and what it was compiled for. If it's not compiled then it ~should~ be possible to compile and run it. If you can be more specific about what tar.gz you have it might be helpful.
[03:06] <tr3nton> there's some new extension for remote access: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gbchcmhmhahfdphkhkmpfmihenigjmpp , could be cool :D
[03:08] <AVP> cryptothesly: blender
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> tr3nton: not bad :)
[03:08] <dr_willis> !info blender
[03:10] <dr_willis> some days i  wonder about  theuse of subjective terms like 'very fast and versatile' in  descriptions. ;)
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: if you read the reviews, someone seems to think its not so fast ;)
[03:11] <dr_willis> getting where its harder and harder to filter out what you dont want from an apt-cache search listing
[03:11] <dr_willis> at least it dosenthave the coders name in the description like ive seen on some packages
[03:11] <cryptothesly> my steam-powered mechanical differencing engine is fast and versatile in relation to earlier alternatives ;)
[03:12] <reisio> I have a quantum steam powered analytical engine
[03:12] <reisio> the steam blows around the atomic bits
[03:12] <dr_willis> do you have to defrag  it?
[03:12] <reisio> only when I run Windows on it
[03:12] <reisio> so I can use sheep.exe
[03:12] <cryptothesly> are you sure you actually have it reisio? Surely if you observe it you cannot be sure?
[03:12]  * ActionParsnip defrags his abacus
[03:13] <lix> reisio: sheep in superposition?
[03:13] <dr_willis> just finished reading a  artical on btrfs.   :)
[03:13] <reisio> cryptothesly: surossibly
[03:13] <reisio> dr_willis: was the article finished?
[03:13] <reisio> most things to do with btrfs aren't :p
[03:13] <dr_willis> basically mentions how brtfs seems to be getting pushed to fast into Oracle and a few other disrtos.
[03:14] <escott> dr_willis, btrfs is sadly still unusable on ubuntu because of dpkg and firefox's dependence on fsync
[03:14] <dr_willis> http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Kernel-Comment-Btrfs-too-fast-1473538.html
[03:15] <ESphynx> hey guys
[03:16] <root> hi
[03:16] <ESphynx> Wtf does trying to install a 32bit version of the libjpeg library tells me that build-hessential is going to be removed ?????
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest16876
[03:17] <Guest16876> erorr wifi
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> Guest16876: details please...
[03:17] <dr_willis> it pays to ask a question, using complete sentances...
[03:17] <lix> Guest16876: got root on your wifi router?
[03:18] <Guest16876> driver wifi
[03:18] <Guest16876> erorr
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest16876: ok, you aren't charged by the letter here
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest16876: use FULL sentances and describe the issue
[03:18] <dr_willis> we seem to play 20 questions  here way way way to much.
[03:18] <bazhang> Guest16876, is this backtrack?
[03:19] <Guest16876> ok plees wan mint
[03:19] <nydel> is there a way to change the position of an open window from terminal?
[03:19] <bazhang> Guest16876, mint's not supported here
[03:19] <Guest16876> backtrack5
[03:19] <Guest16876> bt 23
[03:19] <Orukusaki> Oh my God
[03:19] <bazhang> Guest16876, backtrack is not supported here either
[03:19] <dr_willis> nydel:  ive seen some tools in the past for it. Not sure what ones work these days or new ones may be out. 'devilspie' i recall being one.
[03:20] <dr_willis> !info  devilspie
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: sounded like the mentality and intelligence of the average backtrack user :)
[03:20] <dr_willis> nydel:  there may be newer alternatives to that.
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: grab gdevilspie from google code if you are using devilspie, makes life easier
[03:20] <bazhang> #backtrack-linux Guest16876
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> Guest16876: ask in #backtrack-linux
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: good catch
[03:21] <dlum> I'm having issues with my macbook pro installing 12.04. It seems to be freezing when trying to switch to X. Is there a text only installer?
[03:21] <escott> nydel, there is also a matching plugin to compiz in ccsm
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> dlum: use the alternate installer
[03:21] <nydel> dr_willis: i'm watching stuff on an hdmi out & occasionally vlc will open on the laptop, which is closed & over there, so i'm really just trying to set something up to stop that
[03:21] <dr_willis> nydel:  what do you want the windows to do exactly? Ive used the ccsm plugins to (for example) make the file-copy dialogs always be 'on top' and 'on every workspace'
[03:21] <dlum> I just tried ..... it's not just text
[03:22] <escott> !nomodeset | dlum
[03:22] <lix> dlum: did you use the correct installer?
[03:22] <nydel> i don't see any pattern to when vlc opens on the laptop display.
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> dlum: what GPU do you use?
[03:22] <dlum> ubottu: thanks, I'll check this link
[03:22] <nydel> everything else is set to prefer the smaller display since that's where i work.
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> dlum: if its an nvidia, add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[03:23] <dlum> ActionParsnip: it has two cards, an intel and an nvidia
[03:23] <nydel> ideally i'd be running two instances of xwindows with one on the laptop & the other on the hdmi out -- is that possible? anyone know if this is possible?
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> dlum: oh jeez, thats a whole LOT of headaches. Expect issues
[03:24] <reisio> nydel: obviously not the ideal way, but you could use wmctrl to fix such things for one-offs
[03:25] <dr_willis> nydel:  i think the ccsm   plugins can do  that.
[03:25] <dr3mro> hello , is there a scipt for backing up ubuntu and restore it using tar.gz ??
[03:25] <dlum> escott: thanks that helped, but now I need how to figure out to install via text only mode :)
[03:25] <escott> nydel, you might have a problem trying to do that with one video card
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[03:25] <dr_willis> nydel:  i never use the 2 x display feature. but its doable
[03:25] <reisio> dr3mro: from a running system?
[03:25] <escott> !alternate | dlum
[03:25] <dr3mro> reisio, YUP!
[03:25] <escott> dlum, its a different download
[03:25] <dlum> ActionParsnip: yeah ... I've been experiencing issues already
[03:26] <dlum> escott: tried and failed
[03:26] <reisio> dr3mro: you can do it with a simple tar command, but there are sections you'll need to exclude
[03:26] <dlum> escott: the grub line to boot the kernel is only-ubiquity quite splash
[03:26] <dlum> escott: it goes black after it tries to switch to X
[03:26] <dr3mro> reisio, I know about that but wouldn't it be gr8 if a script can do it automatically and restores it if needed!!
[03:27] <cryptothesly> dr3mro, DejaDup does a good job
[03:27] <reisio> dr3mro: it'd have to be a pretty smart script to know when needed
[03:27] <reisio> dr3mro: automatically is as simple as making a cron job
[03:27] <reisio> dr3mro: although for incremental backups and other fancy things you'd want to use something like rdiff-backup
[03:27] <dr3mro> reisio, I mean manually !!
[03:27] <reisio> when to automatically manually restore? :p
[03:27] <cryptothesly> dr3mro, man rsync
[03:28] <dlum> escott: yes, I'm aware and it's the one I'm running on now
[03:28] <dr3mro> rsync is not a good idea !! big data size compared to tar.gz
[03:28] <meisth0th> hello
[03:28] <reisio> you can gz the end result of rsync if you want
[03:28] <reisio> meisth0th: hiyo
[03:28] <dlum> ActionParsnip: Do you know how to do a text only install?
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> dlum: you'll need the alternate ISO
[03:29] <meisth0th> i have written a python application that helps organizing music folder, is there anybody that can make ppa package of it for me?
[03:29] <dr3mro> meisth0th, YUP!
[03:29] <lix> dr3mro: you might wanna try rsync-backup http://devpit.org/rsync-backup/
[03:30] <lix> dr3mro: or bup https://github.com/apenwarr/bup
[03:31] <Squarism> is there a hotkey for the screen shot program in ubuntu
[03:31] <Squarism> i ubuntu unituy
[03:31] <dlum> ActionParsnip: I have it and i've booted with nomodeset
[03:31] <Squarism> unity
[03:31] <lix> Squarism: the PrintScreen key
[03:31] <reisio> Squarism: isn't it CTRL+ALT+... something?
[03:31] <reisio> s?
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> Squarism: press printscreen key
[03:31] <Squarism> thanks
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Squarism: wasnt that the first thing you tried?
[03:32] <nydel> dr_willis: i'm gonna try ccsm, thanks for your help
[03:32] <meisth0th> anybody?
[03:33] <lix> Squarism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6MgXoU15EU :)
[03:33] <dwarder> FATAL: Module tun not found.
[03:33] <dwarder> modprobe tun
[03:33] <dwarder> how to fix?
[03:33] <nydel> Squarism: print for the workspace, shift-print for the window
[03:34] <cryptothesly> ActionParsnip, not always obvious on some keyboards. Mine is marked "prt sc" - not something that shouts screenshot to some.
[03:34] <lix> nydel: nice (didnt know)
[03:34] <ESphynx> hey guys, why doesn't installing 32 bit libraries automatically create the proper 32 bit .so symlinks on Precise?
[03:35] <nydel> lix: there are more. system settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts -> screenshots (in unity)
[03:35] <nydel> Squarism: what i just said
[03:35] <lix> nydel: thanks
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> ESphynx: if you install a 32bit app the package system wil install the 32bit deps
[03:36] <ESphynx> ActionParsnip:I do'nt install 32 bit apps, I develop 32 bits apps
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> ESphynx: might want to use a chroot then
[03:37] <ESphynx> ActionParsnip: I want to develop my 32bit apps on my 64 bit systems.
[03:37] <ESphynx> Why is it so hard to get this 32/64 bit co-existance right
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> !chroot
[03:37]  * robertzaccour tired as hell
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> ESphynx: it is right...
[03:38] <ESphynx> wtf would I need a Chroot for that!!! come on!
[03:38] <robertzaccour> I moved today
[03:38] <nydel> ESphynx: ActionParsnip's not wrong
[03:38] <paulus68> what is the advantage/disadvantage of creating different partitions for /boot /root /home on 1 hard drive?
[03:38] <lix> robertzaccour: moved to ubuntu?
[03:38] <ESphynx> nydel: wrong about what?
[03:39] <lix> ESphynx: about chroot
[03:39] <ESphynx> I appreciate the help you guys are giving me, pointing me in the right direction on what one is supposed to do
[03:39] <ESphynx> But I'm totally infuriated with these Ubuntu decisions.
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: easy backup for /home  as well as easy reinstalls. /root is pretty pointless as it's not used much at all
[03:39] <nydel> ESphynx: using chroot or something like it to make different areas for coexistence of 32 & 64
[03:40] <nydel> ESphynx: what ubuntu decisions?
[03:40] <ESphynx> nydel: the fact it doesn't 'just work' anymore.
[03:40] <ESphynx> as it used to before Oneiric
[03:40] <nydel> ESphynx: oh come on, what fun would that be
[03:41] <ESphynx> mind you, there's not much that seems to be missing!
[03:41] <ESphynx> it just seems to refuse to create my libjpeg.so symlink in /usr/lib/i386-gnu-linux/
[03:41] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: Home I can understand however creating a partition of 100mb on /boot seems a bit of a overkill to me but I can totaly miss the ball here
[03:41] <ESphynx> i have to do it manually
[03:41] <nydel> ESphynx: you're right though, if we want ubuntu to appear as a viable alternative to the big money os's, it should 'just work'
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: i think its a bit pointless, I make /, /home and swap here, anything else is a bit needless imho. For servers a seperate /var can be good :)
[03:42] <ESphynx> nydel: good. I'm glad someone sees it that way.
[03:42] <nydel> ESphynx: f yeah
[03:42] <ESphynx> this whole multiarch deal, there was some good thought put into this I'm sure... and it does seem to improve on stuff...
[03:43] <ESphynx> So why not get it right all the way.
[03:44] <nydel> anyone know how to design a global hotkey that launches firefox with url.com/q=$q where $q is hilighted text?
[03:44] <ms-daisy> Hi, I'm trying to make a copy of a .conf file before I mess with it on my server.  I'm using this command: sudo cp /etc/apt/apt.conf /etc/apt/apt.conf.original sudo chmod a-w /etc/apt/apt.conf.original.
[03:45] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: thx
[03:45] <ms-daisy> I get the error: target '/etc/apt/apt.conf.original' is not a directory.  What am I doing wrong?
[03:45] <nydel> ms-daisy: is /etc/apt/apt.conf a directory?
[03:45] <meisth0th> please, can anybody make package of my application and make ppa for it?
[03:46] <nydel> ms-daisy: do this: cd /etc/apt/apt.conf;sudo cp apt.conf apt.conf.original
[03:46] <pacific-blue> I have a large table with a key and a description following it. If the description is the same as the above line it will have a ". Is there a way in vi to replace the " with the description from above?
[03:47] <nydel> ms-daisy: i meant this: cd /etc/apt;sudo cp apt.conf apt.conf.original
[03:48] <reisio> pacific-blue: /join #vim
[03:48] <_xan_> paulus68: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/256/is-it-good-to-make-a-separate-partition-for-boot
[03:48] <pacific-blue> reisio, thought i had. my bad
[03:48] <reisio> pacific-blue: just sayin' :D
[03:49] <wayneo> suo ery body
[03:49] <ms-daisy> thanks nydel.  That still didn't work.  Problem is I've never tried to save a conf file on a server.  Can anyone point me to a tutorial, documentation, something that will walk a total noob through it?  Google is landing me on helpful stuff like "save the conf file before you edit it."
[03:50] <nydel> ms-daisy: same error?
[03:51] <nydel> ms-daisy: try this: cp /etc/apt/apt.conf ~/apt.conf.original
[03:51] <nydel> ms-daisy: that should put a copy of the original in your home directory
[03:51] <ms-daisy> o god I'm an idiot. It's /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[03:51] <KRomo> hows is Fedora?
[03:51] <nydel> ms-daisy: that's why we love computers -- when they mess up, it's our fault :)
[03:52] <KRomo> i see people making a big deal about ver 17
[03:53] <reisio> KRomo: it's probably the best distro for being an unpaid RHEL beta tester there is
[03:53] <ms-daisy> Nop, I still don't have it.  Seriously.  Can anyone point me to a detailed document on saving .conf files?
[03:53] <reisio> ms-daisy: saving them?
[03:53] <ms-daisy> yup
[03:54] <ms-daisy> copying them sorry
[03:54] <U5Z3> Whats with the FloodBot1,2, and 3's?
[03:54] <reisio> ms-daisy: from where to where? Why?
[03:54] <nydel> ms-daisy: there's no real topic on saving conf files -- you need to know about "linux file permissions" & the "cp" command.
[03:54] <reisio> U5Z3: 3 comes after 2 comes after 1
[03:54] <nydel> ms-daisy: 9 times of 10, a .conf is textual
[03:54] <ms-daisy> reiso I'm going to screw with a .conf file. I want to save the original before that.
[03:55] <zombifier> or cp -r if you want to copy directories
[03:55] <reisio> ms-daisy: ah
[03:55] <lix> ms-daisy: "cp foo bar" or "cat foo > bar"
[03:55] <paulus68> _xan_: thx
[03:55] <reisio> ms-daisy: cp /path/to/conf /home/youruser/conf.backupFOO#
[03:55] <KRomo> what app can i use to use my scanner?
[03:55] <nydel> zombifier: is that right, does cp take -r? i know rm does but i didn't think cp did.
[03:55] <zombifier> I believe vim has an option of saving the original when editing
[03:55] <reisio> KRomo: what make?
[03:55] <lix> KRomo: gimp!
[03:55] <KRomo> hp officejet 6500a
[03:55] <zombifier> nydel: Yes, cp takes the --recursive option
[03:55] <Blue1> zombifier: indeed
[03:55] <reisio> KRomo: hplip/hplip-gui
[03:55] <nydel> zombifier: good to know thx
[03:56] <ms-daisy> zombifier vim FTW!
[03:56] <bazhang> KRomo, simplescan
[03:56] <KRomo> i installed hplip but i didnt see a scan option
[03:56] <reisio> KRomo: you probably want hplip-gui
[03:56] <reisio> KRomo: otherwise it's commands only, like 'hp-scan'
[03:56] <reisio> (which I actually prefer)
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: xsane
[03:56] <reisio> KRomo: the buttons on the scanner may also work, but not necessarily
[03:56] <KRomo> its connected over network
[03:56] <KRomo> is that ok?
[03:57] <reisio> KRomo: potentially :)
[03:57] <Blue1> yeah network prointer usally work
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo#LAN-based_scanners
[03:57] <KRomo> xsane installing now...
[03:57] <bazhang> !packaging > meisth0th
[03:58] <KRomo> oh wow xsane works flawless
[03:58] <KRomo> yessssssssssssss
[03:58] <U5Z3> whats xsane?
[03:58] <KRomo> thanks action!
[03:58] <nydel> ms-daisy: do this: "sudo vi /etc/apt/apt.conf.d" then type ":w /etc/apt/apt.conf.d" then type ":q"
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> !info xsane
[03:58] <meisth0th> bazhang, i know about packaging, but it would be a lot easier for me if there is already one experienced user that wants to help me
[03:58] <nydel> ms-daisy: do this: "sudo vi /etc/apt/apt.conf.d" then type ":w /etc/apt/apt.conf.d.original" then type ":q"
[03:59] <zykotick9> nydel: apt.conf.d is a directory usually
[03:59] <bazhang> meisth0th, better to learn it, asking here for someone to compile your app for a ppa is not the way to go
[03:59] <zombifier> nano has the -b option. Dunno if vim has it
[03:59] <zombifier> -B
[03:59] <nydel> zykotick9: i asked that, i thought it wasn't this time
[03:59] <ms-daisy> Thanks nydel.  I'm still disappointed that I can't copy a simple file :S
[03:59] <nydel> ms-daisy: it might not be a file
[04:00] <zombifier> cp -r is needed in order to copy a folder
[04:00] <tr3nton> i have pinned an application to the unity launcher (text editor). But if I right click some text files, Open With Scite; it creates a new icon in the launcher (same icon, so it appears there twice).
[04:00] <nydel> ms-daisy: try "sudo cp -r /etc/apt/apt.d.conf /etc/apt/apt.d.conf.original
[04:00] <tr3nton> Is that expected behavior
[04:00] <KRomo> how do i minimize all windows? like in windows windoskey+d?
[04:00] <reisio> dunno if recommending vi is a good idea for someone who didn't know how to cp a few seconds ago
[04:00] <nydel> "
[04:00] <reisio> KRomo: try CTRL+ALT+d
[04:00] <_xan_> apt.conf.d is a directory
[04:00] <nydel> ms-daisy: the "-r" means recursive, you need this to copy a directory.
[04:00] <ms-daisy> reisio: good point.  This server is for breaking.
[04:00] <reisio> everything is, in the end :p
[04:00] <KRomo> ctrl+alt+d does nothing
[04:00] <reisio> but you might find nano or gedit a better editor
[04:01] <reisio> KRomo: which version of Ubuntu?
[04:01] <paulus68> is there a utility under ubuntu simular like norton disk doktor?
[04:01] <U5Z3> ya i like gedit
[04:01] <KRomo> 12.04
[04:01] <ms-daisy> gedit on a server with no gui reisio ?
[04:01] <nydel> i would recommend nano for command line
[04:01] <KRomo> i learned ctrl+alt+t is terminal today, i love that
[04:01] <nydel> what ms-daisy said
[04:01] <rcrnstn> Hi guys, Im having problems with C++ "mem_fun" and "bind1st", can you help? http://codepad.org/g3AvnAlL (19 lines)
[04:01] <reisio> KRomo: should be Meta+D, just like Windows
[04:01] <U5Z3> Oops right
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: you can also install guake and use F12 (by default) to show and hide the terminal :)
[04:02] <zombifier> Yup, nano -B shoud save the original file as a backup
[04:02] <_xan_> KRomo: You will love guake even more then
[04:02] <robotdevil> can I use windows pen drive creator if my ubuntu disc creator is broken
[04:02] <reisio> can customize all the shortcuts :p
[04:02] <robotdevil> in wine
[04:02] <lix> paulus86: what exactly would you like to do?
[04:02] <KRomo> windows+d does nothing
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> reisio: meta+D will run the app in Unity assigned to the letter D in the launcher :)
[04:02] <zombifier> robotdevil: I see no difference
[04:02] <zombifier> In 12.04 it's Ctrl + Super + D now
[04:02] <robotdevil> zombifier: I meant in wine
[04:02] <nydel> !cp
[04:02] <reisio> ActionParsnip: not what what I'm reading says
[04:03] <reisio> ActionParsnip: what's desktop toggle, then?
[04:03] <KRomo> OH WOW
[04:03] <KRomo> ctrl super d works
[04:03] <KRomo> yay
[04:03] <zombifier> I have no idea why you should run system tools in wine. Try unetbootin
[04:03] <reisio> what an awful shortcut
[04:03] <dwarder> i'm on Ubuntu 11.04, how do i enable tun if, /sbin/modprobe tun gives WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
[04:03] <dwarder> FATAL: Module tun not found.
[04:03] <lm_> wow guy you are very serviceable :) i'm male
[04:03] <nydel> KRomo: global hotkey list is found in system-settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts
[04:03] <nydel> KRomo: you might like a lot of them
[04:04] <dwarder> ;(
[04:04] <paulus68> lix: I have a harddrive that has some bad sectors on them which makes it still possible to read and format however impossible to reinstall ubuntu on this drive it keeps hanging therefore I want to see if it's possible to "replace" the bad sectors and try to use the hd again
[04:04] <zombifier> Try holding the Super key
[04:04] <reisio> lm_: I'm male, too, small world
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: hold down windows key for a long time and you'll see all the asigned shortcuts
[04:04] <KRomo> right now i am running ubuntu 12.04 on a small 90gb sata3 6gbps ssd. i have a sata3 2tb drive i want to install as a storage drive. should i format it ntfs or ext4 like trhe ssd?
[04:04] <KRomo> oh wow lol
[04:04] <zombifier> ext4
[04:04] <_xan_> !fsck
[04:04] <lm_> reisio, i know
[04:04] <lix> paulus86: !info fsck
[04:05] <reisio> does Ubuntu's 'shutdown' not have -F ?
[04:05] <_xan_> !fsck paulus86
[04:05] <robotdevil> zombifier: didnt know about it thanks
[04:05] <ms-daisy> nydel: Okie dokie. I was trying to copy a directory. Epic fail. But now I've got the CORRECT conf files copied.  Thanks to all!
[04:05] <KRomo> reisio: what distro you on?
[04:05] <nydel> ms-daisy: very welcome
[04:05] <reisio> KRomo: one whose shutdown has -F :D
[04:05] <KRomo> lol
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> reisio: windows shutdown has -f ;)
[04:06] <zombifier> Yeah its kinda weird that mv does not have -r, while cp and rm has
[04:06] <reisio> ActionParsnip: what about Mac OS? :p
[04:06] <zombifier> sudo shutdown now
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> reisio: ubuntu has -r -s -H -P -c and -k
[04:06] <zombifier> in Ubuntu
[04:06] <paulus68> _xan_: but will it also repair the filesystem if needed?
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> reisio: no idea, not used mac too extensively
[04:06]  * lix wonders if option "-f" stands for "forever"
[04:07] <reisio> ActionParsnip: so at all :D heh
[04:07] <zombifier> just read shutdown's man page
[04:07] <_xan_> paulus68: yes
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> reisio: a little, to play music at a party
[04:07] <_xan_> paulus68: man fsck
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> reisio: felt weird, didn't like it
[04:07] <paulus68> _xan_: thx
[04:07] <KRomo> was unity designed for tablets? it seems like it would work well on tablets and desktops alike...the sidebar seems touch freindly
[04:08] <lm_> you know what guys, i received message 'disk drive /dev/mapper/cryptswap/ etc' but i reinstalled ubuntu without encrypting my home folder at the start and solved!
[04:08] <lix> paulus86 http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/fsck.8.html
[04:08] <nydel> a lot of new ubuntu users seem not to know basic li/unix commands -- i think we should alias rm='rm -i' in the next release
[04:08] <zombifier> nydel: Great idea
[04:09] <jen> how in the HECK do i use JoinMe on Linux!?!?!?!
[04:09] <reisio> KRomo: it was inspired by a version originally intended for netbooks, IIRC
[04:09] <dr_willis> and joinme is?
[04:09] <lm_> you know what guys, i received message 'disk drive /dev/mapper/cryptswap/ etc' but i reinstalled ubuntu without encrypting my home folder at the start and solved!
[04:09] <reisio> Guest86938: yes, what's joinme?
[04:09] <lix> nydel: no actually you should alias rm='wipe -fr'
[04:09] <reisio> ActionParsnip: yeah :p
[04:09] <Ieatpienstuff> im wanting to share my screen with other people but stupid linux keeps foiling everything I do!
[04:09] <reisio> ActionParsnip: I did use one for writing a paper in college once, though, group project
[04:10] <reisio> ActionParsnip: word processors are all the same, though
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> reisio: considering what they was using it for he could've bough a windows pc and saved a few hundred, but they suckered him in
[04:10] <Ieatpienstuff> and if anyone can kindly help me fix my problem I would really appreciate it
[04:11] <bazhang> Ieatpienstuff, you never asked a real question
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> Ieatpienstuff: wassup?
[04:11] <reisio> ActionParsnip: it's important for some people to get rid of their money :p
[04:11] <dr_willis> it helps to state the problem.
[04:11] <Ieatpienstuff> how can I use JoinMe on linux?
[04:11] <lix> Ieatpienstuff: try http://teamviewer.com
[04:11] <reisio> Ieatpienstuff: what is it?
[04:11] <Ieatpienstuff> no no teamviewer
[04:11] <dr_willis> I dont think anyone in here has ever heard of JoinMe
[04:11] <Ieatpienstuff> I just want to share how i draw by using it
[04:11] <lix> Ieatpienstuff: what is "JoinMe" anyways?
[04:11] <reisio> ^ :p
[04:12] <Ieatpienstuff> to share your screen with people
[04:12] <dr_willis> and the JoinMe web site mentions a Linux client?
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> Ieatpienstuff: look into teamviewer or vnc if it is only over LAN
[04:13] <Ieatpienstuff> grr
[04:13] <lix> Ieatpienstuff: http://scriptographer.org
[04:13] <Ieatpienstuff> but everyone uses macs and windows
[04:13] <lix> !info JoinMe
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> Ieatpienstuff: vnc is a protocol used in mac and windows
[04:14] <Ieatpienstuff> but
[04:14] <Ieatpienstuff> all I want to do is share my screen with a EVERY POSSIBLE TYPE of computer known to man website
[04:14] <lix> Ieatpienstuff: use scriptographer to draw with your friends and gobby to collectively write texts.
[04:15] <lix> Ieatpienstuff: !info gobby
[04:15] <reisio> that's what we call Flash
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Ieatpienstuff: vnc can be connected to from ANY OS that has a VNC client for it...
[04:15] <dr_willis> Ieatpienstuff:  vnc  has clients and teamviewer for most every os out  there.. while Join.me seems limited to android devices and windows pcs...
[04:15] <_xan_> Ieatpienstuff: you could always try to download the windows version and run it under wine
[04:15] <reisio> Ieatpienstuff: http://alternativeto.net/software/logmein-express/?platform=linux
[04:15] <dr_willis> the join.me web site isent even loading properly on my android device.. makes me worry aoyt  using their android client
[04:16] <ray1claw> and I'm IN!!
[04:16] <ray1claw> finally
[04:16] <Ieatpienstuff> holy heck
[04:17] <Ieatpienstuff> i can do it!!!
[04:17] <lix> :)
[04:17] <Ieatpienstuff> thanks you guise! Nerd out!
[04:17] <ray1claw> whoops
[04:17] <ray1claw> wrong channel
[04:17] <reisio> guiseses
[04:19] <dr_willis> Just reminded me of that blues-stack android 'vm'  thing for windows. anyone noticed a similer open sourced project for linux? be nice to run some android  apps in a little window on my desktop
[04:20] <_xan_> dr_willis: could run the development environment... not sure what the performance would be like
[04:20] <dr_willis> _xan_:  or theres that x86 port  of Android 4.0 i could do in Vbox.. but thats not quite the same as how that BLuestacks works
[04:22] <dr_willis> i figure eventually it will happen.  Be sort of a neat 'feature' for ubuntu to have an easy way to do it,.
[04:22] <EtgarDizz> hi all!
[04:22] <CoJaBo> hi some!
[04:22] <EtgarDizz> I'd like to consult: I have ubuntu 11.04 installed, with some applications/modifications. from your experience, how much incompatibility should I expect if I try to upgrade to 12.04? meaning - should I even do it?
[04:23] <reisio> EtgarDizz: you probably won't have any with apps not to do with the GUI/Unity/GNOME
[04:24] <zykotick9> EtgarDizz: you can't skip releases so you'd have to upgrade twice 11.04 -> 11.10 then 11.10 -> 12.04
[04:24] <ramsmith> EtgarDizz: i tend to create two / partitions one that is active and one that i use for the next release. I have a home partitions that i recycle
[04:24] <reisio> zykotick9: not even LTS?
[04:24] <dr_willis> if you don't  want or need the new features. stay with what ya have. ;)
[04:25] <zykotick9> reisio: LTS is an exception (that proves the rule ;)
[04:25] <CoJaBo> This machine's still on Jaunty :/
[04:25] <reisio> ramsmith: and you find that's necessary?
[04:25] <reisio> zykotick9: right
[04:25] <ramsmith> reisio: it has proven to be the best way for me.
[04:26] <EtgarDizz> zykotick9, that's what I meant... upgrading twice. reisio, good point. I don't think I have any mods to the gui, I do however have modified the x11 config file, and have added some libs to support java 32-bit for eg. does that sound like something that could break? meaning, the libs I installed are probably release-specific?
[04:26] <ramsmith> reisio: not necessary but i have done it that way at least 4 times after having nigling issues between upgrades
[04:26] <_xan_> dr_willis: have you tried to run bluestacks in wine just for kicks?
[04:26] <ccooffee> I'm planning on installing Ubuntu. Please name a few things I should start with to make the computer more secure.
[04:26] <zykotick9> EtgarDizz: personally (and it's only a personal OPINION), i think upgrade are a bad idea YMMV
[04:27] <reisio> ramsmith: issues like?
[04:27] <EtgarDizz> zykotick9, YMMV?...
[04:27] <reisio> EtgarDizz: can't speak to your mysterious Java™ configs, but the rest should be fine
[04:27] <verwilst> your mileage may vary
[04:27] <zykotick9> EtgarDizz: sorry, Your Milage May Vary (meaning you might have a different experinece)
[04:27] <reisio> EtgarDizz: and even if it isn't, it shouldn't take you more than a few hours here to sort any issues out
[04:27] <_xan_> ccooffee: laptop lock, security cam connected to cctv, 300lbs security guard?
[04:28] <dr_willis> _xan_:  thats almost twisted. ;)
[04:28] <reisio> no offense, but if you can't upgrade it, you need to find another distro
[04:28] <ramsmith> reiso: just funny little stuff. its been over two years since i've done it differently.
[04:28] <reisio> ramsmith: mmm
[04:28] <ccooffee> _xan_: Almost funny... :/
[04:28] <ramsmith> reisio: from memory it was mostly gnome related.
[04:29] <EtgarDizz> zykotick9, reisio, that's good advice. can you recommend a back-up application, to create an image of what I have now, in case I don't like the new release and want to revert?
[04:29] <reisio> _xan_: yeah, if you'd not used avoirdupois it'd have been funny
[04:29] <zykotick9> EtgarDizz: clonezilla livecd, or dd for image backups are two options
[04:29] <reisio> EtgarDizz: rsync from a livecd is pretty simple
[04:30] <_xan_> reisio: haha
[04:30] <reisio> rsync -av /where/root/is/mounted/ /some/other/place/
[04:30] <reisio> _xan_: :D
[04:30] <reisio> dm, that would've made it funny
[04:30] <reisio> or dg in this case
[04:30] <reisio> decigrammes are innately funny
[04:31] <_xan_> reisio: I prefer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_(unit)
[04:31] <reisio> you would :p
[04:32] <Lil> Can anyone show me how to connect wvdial using usb modem without modprobing first, please.. :)
[04:33] <_xan_> ccooffee: what are you trying to achieve from a security standpoint?  encryption? anonymity? firewalled environment?
[04:33] <dr_willis> why not just make the module autoload?
[04:33] <ccooffee> _xan_: Basic security stuff. :>
[04:33] <dr_willis> actually the plugging in of the device should load the module
[04:34] <reisio> ccooffee: should be pretty secure by default
[04:34] <Cerrdor> sh-4.1$ sudo chmod 777 eggdrop
[04:34] <Cerrdor> sh-4.1$ ./eggdrop -m eggdrop.conf
[04:34] <Cerrdor> sh: ./eggdrop: Permission denied
[04:34] <Lil> dr_willis:  i can't do that.. T_T
[04:34] <Cerrdor> how do I fix that?
[04:34] <_xan_> ccooffee: exactly what reisio said
[04:34] <ccooffee> reisio: SHOULD be? Oh oh!
[04:34] <reisio> ccooffee: heh
[04:34] <dr_willis> lil cant do what....
[04:34] <reisio> ccooffee: for example an ssh server probably isn't even installed
[04:34] <reisio> ccooffee: so people can't even try to brute force or guess your pass and break in remotely
[04:35] <ccooffee> _xan_: reisio: I read the firewall isn't turned on by default? :/
[04:35] <dr_willis> a normal desktop ubuntu install has no default services listening . i belive
[04:35] <reisio> ccooffee: if you want some "security" (peace of mind), look into something like AIDE or tripwire, so you know if and when your system has been compromised, and exactly how to undo it
[04:35] <dr_willis> ccooffee:  its on. but theres no default rules blocking anything.
[04:35] <Lil> dr_willis how to loading..
[04:35] <_xan_> ccooffee: do you have a laptop that you are moving around? or just a desktop?
[04:35] <dr_willis> !module
[04:35] <dr_willis> !modules
[04:36] <Cerrdor> I chmod my script 777 over and over and I still get permission denied, why is it not sticking lol
[04:36] <dr_willis> !autoload
[04:36] <dr_willis> Cerrdor:  check output of ls -l, what fs is the file on?
[04:36] <zykotick9> Cerrdor: is the script on a FAT/NTFS partition by chance?
[04:36] <ccooffee> _xan_: It's a laptop used as a desktop. :p
[04:37] <ccooffee> reisio: That sounds complicated.
[04:37] <reisio> ccooffee: it isn't _really_
[04:37] <reisio> ccooffee: but you have plenty of time to figure out how to use it, because it's pretty unlikely you'll need it at all :p
[04:37] <ccooffee> dr_willis: Would it be easy to block all incoming connections?
[04:37] <_xan_> ccooffee: if you have a router by default you don't need to worry about a firewall... I would really only be concerned about a firewall if you are accessing public wifi or something similar.
[04:37] <ForSpareParts> Hey guys? I had an upgrade fail and I'm running dpkg --configure -a from chroot -- it's dying on me, says "too many errors." Is there anything I can do about that?
[04:38] <Lil> thanks... :D
[04:38] <dr_willis> ccooffee:  if no services are listening.. then theres no need to block them.
[04:38] <EtgarDizz> reision, sorry I didn't understand the rsync command you wrote
[04:38] <EtgarDizz> why would it work, when I try to go back from /some/other/place into /there/root/is? the new release would be more recent and nothing would happen, no?
[04:39] <dr_willis> ccooffee:  and my router handles most of it all. :)
[04:39] <dr_willis> bbl
[04:39] <ccooffee> reisio: Just yesterday I used the Installation DVD that came with my laptop to be SURE nothing was tampered with. Guess what? utorrent came preinstalled on the fucking DVD(?!) and once I installed VLC the icon was upside down... :/
[04:39] <reisio> EtgarDizz: from a live OS, if you have your root (/) mounted to say /mnt/oldubuntu, and a drive with sufficient space mounted to /mnt/oldbackup, you'd run: rsync -av /mnt/oldubuntu/ /mnt/oldbackup/
[04:39] <ForSpareParts> It seems like the errors are all "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured"
[04:40] <reisio> EtgarDizz: hrmm?
[04:40] <reisio> ccooffee: talking about an Ubuntu DVD?
[04:40] <ccooffee> reisio: No, Mac OS X.
[04:40] <reisio> oh
[04:41] <reisio> Mac OS isn't much for security
[04:41] <reisio> there's a massive dormant botnet involving Apple computers ATM
[04:41] <reisio> not that it can't be, it just isn't by default
[04:41] <ccooffee> Well, what I told you about happened within 30 minutes after installing the damn thing.
[04:41] <crazyharry> how can I download entire directory using wget command ?
[04:41] <reisio> ccooffee: installing what, Mac OS?
[04:42] <ccooffee> reisio: Yes.
[04:42] <reisio> ccooffee: mmm, that's a different OS though :p
[04:42] <ccooffee> reisio: And why the **** was utorrent already on the DVD?
[04:42] <bazhang> ccooffee, thats offtopic here. try a mac channel
[04:42] <_xan_> ccooffee: http://www.puschitz.com/SecuringLinux.shtml
[04:42] <ccooffee> bazhang: Why? I'm not trying to get any help for OS X. We're just talking about it.
[04:43] <bazhang> ccooffee, and no cursing here
[04:43] <bazhang> ccooffee, it's NOT the chat channel
[04:43] <EtgarDizz> reisio, I thought you meant I can do this from my normal OS and not only from a live CD. also, how would I replace the new relase with the backup if needed? what command in rsync?
[04:43] <ccooffee> bazhang: Wow. Calm down?
[04:43] <reisio> ccooffee: I'd imagine because it wasn't an official DVD image, or alternatively because they have some commercial partnership with them
[04:43] <reisio> EtgarDizz: you can, but it's more complicated as there are parts of the OS you wouldn't want to attempt to copy
[04:43] <reisio> EtgarDizz: like /proc/
[04:44] <reisio> EtgarDizz: you can just rm the new files and rsync -av back the old ones
[04:44] <EtgarDizz> reisio, what's the diff? if / is mounted to somewhere, wouldn't /proc/ be there with it (eg /mnt/old/proc/)?
[04:44] <reisio> EtgarDizz: proc itself would be, but not the dynamic files inside it
[04:45] <reisio> it'd just be an empty dir waiting to be filled by a running system
[04:45] <CoJaBo> In general, you don't want to try to back up a running system's root lol..
[04:45] <crazyharry> how can I download entire directory (all subfolder and files within it )using wget command ?
[04:45] <EtgarDizz> reisio, I think I need to try this for myself to get a better undestanding... one problem: the live CD option isn't available cos I'm planning on an upgrade not a fresh install
[04:46] <reisio> crazyharry: ask #linux
[04:46] <reisio> EtgarDizz: it's only not an option if you don't have a live OS image and/or don't have a CD/DVD/USB stick
[04:47] <zykotick9> crazyharry: -r for recursive
[04:47] <reisio> you don't need it for the upgrade, it's just convenient for backing up a system (because the system won't be _running_)
[04:47] <crazyharry> zykotick9, I did -r , only copies index.html file
[04:47] <EtgarDizz> reision, I guess I'm missing something. can you explain the steps you'd take in this method?
[04:48] <zykotick9> crazyharry: perhaps it's a dynamic site?
[04:48] <EtgarDizz> reisio, also the steps needed to restore the backup
[04:48] <crazyharry> zykotick9, I used  wget -r -nH --cut-dirs=2 --no-parent --reject="index.html*" --user=xxx --password='yyy'  https://valicertext.roche.com/OID_XXYYX/*
[04:49] <reisio> EtgarDizz: obtain live OS image and burn/image to CD or DVD or USB stick, reboot system to this live OS, mount the local root filesystem as well as someplace to put a copy of it (you can copy it to /home/foo/ if you want, but exclusions would come into play), rsync -av /path/to/original/ /path/to/newcopy/
[04:52] <EtgarDizz> reisio, understood. now how would you restore if needed? from live CD again, or something else?
[04:54] <Zackington> i get an error when booting
[04:54] <Zackington> write hd0 disk error
[04:55] <CoJaBo> Zackington: ..is your drive dieing? o_O
[04:55] <Zackington> no?
[04:55] <Zackington> lol
[04:55] <Zackington> its new
[04:55] <Zackington> 1.5tb
[04:56] <reflexrg> what problems can I encounter if I encrypt my home folder does it have to be a separate parition and if upgrade by fresh install and I have an encrypted home folder how does that work and is that still possible???
[04:57] <angelica> #ubuntu
[04:57] <angelica> lorena
[04:58] <wifioregon> Hi, I've been introducing a lot of people in my chat to Ubuntu, but they complain that they want to be able to play good games.  I remember someone a while back talking about some new engine thats going to be way cool. Are there any good commercial games for ubuntu?
[04:58] <reisio> yup
[04:59] <reisio> and a number of win32 games will run fine via Wine
[04:59] <lili> hi. i have som txt file in /var/log/ and some .gz file in it. i want to remve all files in /var/log/ Except .gz files?
[04:59] <reisio> playonlinux can help with that, I s'pose
[04:59] <reflexrg> wifioregon there is a lot of free software/open source games cross platform games
[04:59] <wifioregon> reisio, but all the games I've tried so far are buggy and slow with wine...and I've tried a lot
[04:59] <reflexrg> also there is emulators to play games too
[05:00] <wifioregon> thanks, but what about modern games with killer graphics?
[05:00] <reflexrg> I think dosbox is cross platform
[05:00] <reflexrg> there is modern games wifioregon
[05:00] <wifioregon> I've already been installing all the main free and open source games
[05:00] <wifioregon> relexrg, could you recommend a couple?
[05:00] <reisio> lili: something like: find /var/log/ -not -iname '*.gz' -delete
[05:01] <reisio> lili: might want to run it without -delete first and check for sanity :p
[05:01] <reflexrg> how about trying out the gaming editions of distros
[05:01] <xclusive585> wifioregon: yeasterday someone mentioned "nethack" for playing windows games on Linux? never heard of it but maybe it's worth a google?
[05:01] <reisio> wifioregon: a fair number require little tweaks, that's what playonlinux is about
[05:01] <reflexrg> fedora gamers spin wifioregon
[05:01] <reisio> heh
[05:01] <reisio> nethack is a game
[05:01] <xclusive585> lol
[05:01] <wifioregon> but no commercial games?
[05:01] <reisio> wifioregon: I already said there were
[05:01] <zombifier> It depends
[05:02] <reflexrg> just because it isn't commercial doesn't mean the game sucks
[05:02] <wifioregon> reisio:  sorry, just having trouble finding anything good with google
[05:02] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_gaming
[05:02] <lili> reisio: no i want all files excepts gz
[05:02] <reisio> there are also whole sites dedicated to gaming on Linux
[05:02] <reisio> all the games from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humble_Indie_Bundle IIRC are cross platform
[05:03] <reflexrg> there is other ways to make money with a product than selling to end users
[05:03] <reisio> lili: that's what the command I gave you finds
[05:03] <xclusive585> ok, need a good "hello world" program that is a) available as source, b) has enough options where I can really learn about flags and different "ways" to compile. I'm a noob to compiling and plan on really learning, I've got a virtual machine all ready to go so I can make a mess and not worry about it :-). Input?
[05:03] <reisio> lili: might want to add -type f if you don't want empty dirs, too
[05:03] <reisio> xclusive585: I'm not aware of any such source, get yourself an intro book
[05:04] <reisio> xclusive585: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_and_Interpretation_of_Computer_Programs perhaps
[05:04] <lili> reisio: ? i dont see. please example
[05:04] <reisio> or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_C_Programming_Language
[05:04] <reisio> lili: something like: find /var/log/ -type f -not -iname '*.gz' -delete
[05:04] <xclusive585> I just want a good program that I can play with to compile. Not a how-to
[05:04] <wifioregon> xclusive585:  please try the room ##programming
[05:04] <reisio> lili: might want to run it without -delete first and check for sanity :p
[05:05] <reisio> xclusive585: your package manager is full of programs
[05:05] <wifioregon> xclusive585:  They are really friendly with newbs in the programming channel
[05:05] <MrKeuner> hello, which media pc is good with ubuntu? Any personal suggestions are welcome.
[05:05] <wifioregon> MrKeuner:  pretty much all modern PC's run great with ubuntu
[05:05] <wifioregon> MrKeuner:  I've had really good experiences with Lenovo and linux
[05:05] <reflexrg> I forget if I encrypted my home folder is there a command to tell me if I did or not?
[05:05] <xclusive585> LOL, yea package manager won't give me experience compiling, anys I'll try that programming room
[05:06] <reisio> MrKeuner: talking about hardware or software?
[05:06] <MrKeuner> reisio, hardware
[05:06] <reisio> MrKeuner: what wifioregon said
[05:06] <reisio> reflexrg: 'mount' might make it obvious (or might not)
[05:07] <MrKeuner> wifioregon, I have a lenovo laptop x200 which has a fingerprint reader that is not supported by Linux
[05:07] <reflexrg> MrKeuner just get a pc that has open source friendly hardware ATI graphics are open source friendly
[05:07] <lili> reisio: ok. thank you
[05:07] <reisio> MrKeuner: just as well, they aren't useful
[05:07] <reisio> although more than likely it is supported :p
[05:07] <wifioregon> MrKeuner:  well yea things like that are probably using proprietory software..
[05:08] <wifioregon> Its so easy to get past finger print readers anyways
[05:08] <wifioregon> ha with ubuntu
[05:08] <wifioregon> live disk
[05:09] <reflexrg> MrKeuner http://www.h-node.org/
[05:09] <MrKeuner> my point is not the fingerprint reader. I was assuming there may be parts of lenovo that won't work with my operating system
[05:09] <reisio> if someone has physical access to your computer, you're going to have to do a lot better than a finger print reader
[05:09] <reisio> MrKeuner: Lenovo in particular is pretty good about it
[05:09] <reisio> they also prefer Intel hardware, which is also particularly good about it
[05:09] <MrKeuner> reflexrg, that sounds good, I'll check it
[05:09] <lix> MrKreuner: check here http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[05:10] <reisio> and again, I bet your fingerprint reader actually _is_ supported
[05:10] <MrKeuner> lix, that website is far from complete and lacks recent models
[05:10] <MrKeuner> reisio, I am pretty sure it is not
[05:10] <reisio> MrKeuner: you could try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ or http://linux-laptop.net/ (in the case of laptops)
[05:10] <reflexrg> MrKeuner https://www.gnu.org/links/companies.html
[05:11] <reisio> MrKeuner: but it's pretty simple to get a hardware list from a site/retailer and just check compatibility on individual bits
[05:11] <MrKeuner> reisio, Bus 004 Device 002: ID 08ff:2810 AuthenTec, Inc. AES2810
[05:11] <reisio> the most important bits being network and graphics devices
[05:11] <wifioregon> MrKeuner:  I'm looking for a good link that was really helpful for me. One sec
[05:11] <MrKeuner> reisio, network as in wired as well?
[05:12] <reisio> MrKeuner: yes, but wireless is more likely to be problematic
[05:12] <reflexrg> MrKeuner just buy a pc from sites that sell computers preinstalled with linux and if you have specific needs ask them what computers they sell that offer the best 3d acceleration and also ask if it requires non free firmware
[05:12] <reisio> MrKeuner: the internet tells me that device _is_ supported
[05:12] <reisio> launchpad.net, even
[05:13] <reisio> or: buy from sites with a good return policy
[05:13] <wifioregon> MrKeuner:  Ugh nevermind cant find it. Anyone know of a good site that reviews all the different PC's on how well they perform with linux?
[05:13] <reisio> wifioregon: nope, sounds like a waste of time
[05:13] <wifioregon> There was an excellent one i saw a few months gack
[05:13] <reisio> no OS supports more hardware than Linux
[05:13] <ForSpareParts> Hey, does anyone know how to fix the dpkg "dependency problem -- leaving unconfigured" error?
[05:14] <wifioregon> reisio:  I agree, but its a commond question people ask, and they really like to see what others have to say about the model they plan on purchasing
[05:14] <reisio> yeah but people also frequently ask why don't you vote republican :p
[05:15] <Snowie> Hi all. must be missing something here. read the man, cant find any way to use ffmpeg to pull the metadata from a video file. and i see now that it is now replaced by avconv, but still no option. any suggestions
[05:15] <amh345> apache -v
[05:15] <amh345> is there a way to upgrade apache 2.2 to 2.4 using apt-get?
[05:15] <ForSpareParts> Alternately, is there any way to do a reinstall and keep my data intact without copying it all to another drive?
[05:16] <MrKeuner> reisio, your point is never mind if linux supports a new pc you intend to buy, because chances are very high that Linux supports your new prospective hardware?
[05:16] <reflexrg> check this site out to find webcams and other external devices that work well with linux http://www.h-node.org/  and buy from these providers for computers that work well with linux and just ask them what pc works best if you have specific needs such as 3d acceleration...etc... https://www.gnu.org/links/companies.html wifioregon
[05:16] <reisio> Snowie: any particular part of the metadata?
[05:17] <xclusive585> ##programming was as helpful as here :-P. I'm just going to pick at random.
[05:17] <reisio> MrKeuner: no, although that wouldn't be a terrible point, my point was that a site such as the one referred to would not be particularly useful
[05:17] <Snowie> all of it really. i have a sh@#$ load of video that needs sorting. just want to see what info might be there. i know it's likely to be scarce. more need title and ep info.
[05:18] <Snowie> reisio, probably not gunna happen i know
[05:18] <reflexrg> also the most popular hardware that is a few years old tends to be the most well supported hardware MrKeuner
[05:18] <reflexrg> I think dell sells pcs with ubuntu on them
[05:18] <reflexrg> or did they stop doing that?
[05:18] <shawncm217> Ubuntu 12.04 has stopped printing on me. I've deleted and re-added the printer. Deleted all jobs from queue. Reviewed logs. Checked for updates. No success. Need suggestions.
[05:19] <Snowie> i think ubuntu has a list of recommended hardware. sec
[05:19] <reisio> Snowie: I'd ask #ffmpeg about it
[05:19] <reisio> Snowie: don't mention that you're using libav if you are :p
[05:19] <Zackington> i would love to know if the made ubuntu based pcs
[05:19] <reisio> Zackington: they sell them, yes
[05:20] <Snowie> reisio, lol, bad blood hey. thanks mate
[05:20] <reisio> well it's not really your fault your distro has chosen to switch to some grumpy kid's fork
[05:20] <reflexrg> MrKeuner the only thing that I have found that linux sometimes has problems with is graphics card ports s-video...etc. webcams, 3d acceleration
[05:20] <Snowie> Here you go. Buy one of these if you want, well, 90% garauntee of good performance and no issues https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecommendedHardware
[05:21] <reflexrg> not sure about internal webcams
[05:21] <Snowie> Zackington, there are alot of companies out there that build them
[05:21] <reisio> reflexrg: Windows has the same problems, it's just usually preinstalled by a professional
[05:21] <reflexrg> what problems reisio
[05:21] <Snowie> Zackington, giyf http://linuxpreloaded.com/
[05:21] <reisio> apparently you can still get Ubuntu preinstalled on Dell computers if you call them and ask
[05:22] <reisio> reflexrg: those you just mentioned Linux sometimes has
[05:23] <Snowie> reisio, i would say, someone ruined windows to make sure there webcam worked, but yes, i agree.
[05:24] <reisio> Snowie: right, and doing the same thing with Linux accomplishes the same thing: the webcam works
[05:24] <Snowie> reisio, ;)
[05:24] <reisio> that is to say: comparing Windows preinstalled by a professional with Linux installed by an amateur is not particularly useful
[05:24] <reisio> it's not Linux's fault if you don't know how to install drivers :D
[05:25] <Snowie> reisio, i know ill probably get flames, but win7 is pretty polished OEM, but manufacturers always seem to munt it somehow
[05:25] <reisio> although most linux distros go to great lengths to make it automated for you, very much unlike Windows
[05:25] <dr_willis> its the hw makers fault for not hhaving a  gpl driver avail? :)
[05:25] <reisio> Snowie: it's not as bad as Vista
[05:25] <Snowie> reisio, FACT!
[05:25] <reisio> that's all I'm sayin' :p
[05:26] <Snowie> reisio, lol
[05:26] <reisio> dr_willis: licensing doesn't really factor into it
[05:26] <reisio> there are a massive amount of non-GPL drivers for Linux
[05:26] <paulus68> is there a way to get the taskbar in 12.04 transparent so that it blends into your current wallpaper?
[05:26] <dr_willis> but are they included by default.
[05:26] <reisio> paulus68: undoubtedly
[05:26] <reisio> dr_willis: that's a distro issue
[05:26] <reisio> Ubuntu inherits some of Debian's DFSG
[05:27] <Snowie> paulus68, that's an interesting one. Used to be part of compiz i believe. hmmm
[05:27] <reisio> which are good for Linux in general, just potentially problematic for end users
[05:27] <dr_willis> paulus68:  you mean the left side panel?
[05:27] <paulus68> dr_willis: yes
[05:27] <dr_willis> it is semi-transparent now i thought
[05:27] <dr_willis> or at least the color changes. :)
[05:28] <Snowie> paulus68, not really supported here, but try this http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/myunity-comprehensive-unity-tweak-for-ubuntu-11-04-and-11-10/
[05:28] <dr_willis> i think i saw some transparancy settings in myunity or theunity plugin in ccsm
[05:28] <paulus68> dr_willis: I know there is a way to create transparent panel like in the old days however I didn't find a way to achieve this in 1204
[05:28] <dr_willis> MyUnity is in the 12.04 repos.
[05:29] <dr_willis> i always found the transparancy to make things less readable
[05:30] <undecim> paulus68: Pretty sure both Ubuntu tweak and CCSM let you set the transparency of the panel
[05:30] <dr_willis> the top panel transparency can cause issues with seeing the menu items,.
[05:30] <xclusive585> I'll rephrase this question. What's a good source package to learn about GCC compiler with?
[05:31] <undecim> dr_willis: As long as you have a dark bg, it should be fine, right?
[05:31] <dr_willis> undecim:  actually it showed two layers of text - the gnome desktop menu and  the app menu text.. so i think a dark bgmay not help withj that
[05:32] <dr_willis> undecim:  i recall  seeing the issue with some themes. gnome-shjell does it differntly  so the transoarency dosent look as bad there
[05:32] <Snowie> what i love in unity in 12.04 is hitting alt to see EVERY menu item in a search box. skip to next track in spotify with a couple of keystrokes without touching the mouse or toggling windows. HELLZ YEAH
[05:32] <dr_willis> the 'HUD" is handy
[05:33] <undecim> dr_willis: That doesn't happen to me
[05:33] <undecim> dr_willis: In fact... this transparency looks pretty nice.
[05:33] <dr_willis> but its like unity is going 2 routes.. one way is 'focusing on keyboard ussage'  but then they say its going to be for tablets and phones.. with no keyboard
[05:33] <dr_willis> undecim:  i had totally unreadable text over text in the top panel with some themes  as i said.
[05:34] <dr_willis> not all themse have the transparent top panel  i belive
[05:34] <undecim> dr_willis: I think it's perfectly possible and reasonable to have both keyboard and tablet oriented usage
[05:34] <dr_willis> or you can disable the desktop feature of nautlius as a extra work around
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> you can make the top panel clear as well
[05:34]  * dr_willis wonders how to use the hud on a tablet. ;)
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> panel on the desltop that is
[05:35] <ramy_d> anyone here noticing that cups is not starting with ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04 ?
[05:35] <dr_willis> wilee-nilee:  and that can look nasty with some themes
[05:36] <Snowie> dr_willis, yes. but i have to say, it's the same route that all distros are going. merging the desktop and the tablet/touch interface. i prefer ubuntu's take. Ever tried to easily switch to next track on an android phone. out of app, open music app, click next etc etc. why not big fat button that lets you type a few letters and see options for all your open apps
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, I suppose so, it is just an option.
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> transparent is what I mean.
[05:36] <randi> okay, I fully give up! I have spent hours trying to fix my wifi! :/
[05:36] <dr_willis> i caught the wife tapping  her laptops lcd screen the other day... Trying to select somthing.. :) then she realized it was not her tablet.....
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> lol
[05:37] <Snowie> randi, if you had given up, you wouldn't be here ;)
[05:38] <Snowie> dr_willis, there is a video on the web of an infant trying to use a magazine like an ipad... and looking disappointed with the results
[05:38] <undecim> Is there any way to get the Trash and Switcher icons of the launcher?
[05:38] <undecim> s/of/off/
[05:38] <dr_willis> got some usb-wifi dongles the other day off amazon. totally plug and play in ubuntu. Lglad i read the reviews. ;)
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, Good ammo when she questions your intelligence.
[05:38] <dr_willis> undecim:  myunity, has settings for that
[05:39] <randi> Snowie, true true
[05:39] <undecim> dr_willis: I can only find the settings for the "Show Desktop" icon.
[05:39] <Snowie> randi, so, whats happening. can you tell us what wifi adapter you have. built in/usb make model etc etc
[05:39] <dr_willis> undecim:  not on a ppc at the moment. but i saw them in MyUnity, or in  Ubuntu-tweak and i havent been using U-T much lately.
[05:40] <dr_willis> i recall turning off the trask with some slider button in a tweak tool last week
[05:40] <randi> Aetheros  5800 built in
[05:41] <Snowie> ok. so can you detect the thing at all? does it show up in ifconfig? can you see wireless options in the network manager
[05:41] <randi> worked fine until i upgraded to 12.04.
[05:41]  * dr_willis wonders if it would work from a 12.04 live cd
[05:41] <Snowie> if you open a terminal and run ifconfig do you see wlan0 there?
[05:42] <randi> not  anymore
[05:42] <Snowie> dr_willis, known issue?
[05:42] <dr_willis> Snowie:  with the 12.04 release the kernel and stuff has changed. so theres been a lot of very deep changes - hard to tell if  the upgrade messed up. or ifits a 12.04 issue
[05:43] <randi> i did the madwifi ar5008 driver and that didn't work
[05:45] <randi> should i make a live cd and try?
[05:50] <xclusive585> LOL, "##programming has some nice people". HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[05:51] <dr_willis> randi it would be a good test.
[05:51] <Snowie> someone here might point me in the right direction. I work in support for an isp, and our modems by default are configured to have gateway 10.0.0.138, everything below is the gateway is DHCP, and everything above is free to assign static. We dont support static, so theres nothing official in our docs. Is this a TCP/IP standard of some sort??? if so. where are the docs?
[05:52] <Snowie> *below OF the gateway address
[05:52] <sbattey> Are there any immediate security concerns for a ubuntu server running snedmail to send mail through php?
[05:53] <Blue1> Snowie: afaik it's arbitary
[05:53] <dr_willis> Snowie:  so the lan is limited to 137 differnt ip addresses dynamicaly you are saying?
[05:54] <Snowie> Blue1, yep. i know that everyone in the know knows, but how does my poor end user know if there is no docs, and it's not even in the manual????? just weird
[05:54] <Blue1> Snowie: write the manual.
[05:54] <dr_willis> i do my home lan the opposite way. anything below 100 i reserve for my staticc servers and devices, the router hands out  dynamic to anything  starting at 101+
[05:54] <Snowie> dr_willis, yeah. but this if for home. generally wifi, so that's plenty
[05:55] <dr_willis> your isp is decidening on it.. so they should mention it?
[05:55] <Blue1> Snowie: i think the big consideration is whatever you decide - be consistant
[05:56] <Snowie> dr_willis, yeah, but our company supplied modems are fairly locked. The big driver is playstation and xbox (and other port forwarding) at least home users with some knowledge should have a document somewhere
[05:57] <dr_willis> if the device is for a home lan user.. i dont see how the  static not supported applies.. the ip range you gave is whatggs given out to devices on thelan.. thats not the same as the isp giving the user a static ip
[05:57] <dr_willis> or did i missread somthing
[05:58] <dr_willis> 10.0.0.x is  part of the private ip# range isent it. i always use 192.168.1.x
[05:59]  * dr_willis could be confused.
[05:59] <Guest56914> I had a question about /etc/cron.d files. As well as specifying how often the cron job runs and the command to run; is it possible to specify the user which the commands should be ran as?
[05:59] <Guest56914> 10.x.x.x is part of the private IP range.
[05:59] <Guest56914> you can setup any subnet under that.
[06:00] <Guest56914> To answer your question more clearly. Yes, 10.0.0.x is part of the private IP range.
[06:00] <dr_willis> so the home user could setup his xbox with a static ip.  above the # stated   and be fine
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest56914: if you su to the user, you can run the cron as that user
[06:01] <Guest56914> Ok, I was just wondering if it there was possible another 'column'. Thanks!
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest56914: or:  crontab -u name
[06:01] <dr_willis> dosnet each user also have their own crontab?
[06:01] <Guest56914> I would prefer to not use crontab
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest56914: read the man page for crontab?
[06:03] <Blue1> Guest56914: this may/may not help  http://pkill-9.com/scheduling-a-backup-script-with-crontab-for-ubuntudebian/
[06:21] <strictland> i cant get windows to print to printer hooked up on ubuntu computer... help!
[06:23] <mikeS11> Hello strictland. try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[06:23] <strictland> thanks mikeSll, ill give it a shot
[06:32] <amanthakur> hi guys, can anyone tell me how can i make a development environment for the GUI applications in linux? I mean what are the major packages that i need to install.
[06:33] <reisio> amanthakur: qt-designer / glade
[06:33] <reisio> although nobody serious uses them
[06:34] <zombifier> amanthakur: Use Qt
[06:34] <blackcatnekonegr> Hello, I need to create a mbr for a usb flash drive, but for some reason Gparted can't, doing a low level format on the drive works (Yes I know that destroys the mbr) but then using Gparted I cannot create a new mbr, should I try gparted live cd or something?
[06:34] <dr_willis> the question seems a little... vague.. You mean what Development envs. exist for linux?
[06:35] <dr_willis> you mean gparte cant partion the drive at all?
[06:35] <blackcatnekonegr> dr_willis, sometimes it does, but I keep getting error mensages due to the mbr not existing
[06:36] <amanthakur> reisio, zombifier i want to use C as the programming language, will that work with qt?
[06:36] <dr_willis> hmm. sounmds like the flash  drive may be failing.
[06:37] <dr_willis> if you 'zero' the flash with dd, then use gparted on it. first thing it asks is what sort of partioning scheme to use, (dos or that other one). does that work?
[06:37] <reisio> amanthakur: yes
[06:37] <amanthakur> reisio, thansk :)
[06:38] <blackcatnekonegr> dr_willis, I tried a full low level format and it worked fine, if the device was damaged I would have got error messages, can gparted copy a mbr in the live cd? I could try to copy the mbr from another usb flash drive of the same size, would that work?
[06:38] <dr_willis> blackcatnekonegr:  exactly what do you mean by 'low level format'
[06:38] <blackcatnekonegr> dr_willis, it "seems" to work, then later I get error mensages
[06:39] <dr_willis> sounds to me like its failing, and eventually will totally fail.
[06:39] <weiyang> currently, ubuntu doesn't use /etc/inittab?
[06:39] <dr_willis> !inittab
[06:39] <dr_willis> theres some other factoidon thst weiyang  bit i think.. correct. no inittab
[06:39] <dr_willis> !sysv
[06:40] <dr_willis> !runlevel
[06:40] <blackcatnekonegr> dr_willis, low level format cleans all the data in a hard disk, including mbr, is a last resort to make a drive use-able again, in theory after that, you should be able to create a mbr using gparted to make the drive useable again.
[06:40] <dr_willis> blackcatnekonegr:  how did you do this 'low level format'
[06:42] <dr_willis> bbl
[06:43] <blackcatnekonegr>  dr_willis, I used a program in windows, however maybe the disk is indeed damaged, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_formatting, I will try the live cd of gparted it does have more options that the one included in ubuntu
[06:46] <weiyang> i tried " man init", it mentioned "upstart init"
[06:46] <weiyang> then except "upstart init", there is another version?
[06:46] <amanthakur> weiyang, what you are trying to do?
[06:47] <weiyang> amanthakur,  i am trying t understand after kernel boot up and fork the /sbin/init
[06:47] <weiyang> amanthakur,  what will be done to boot up the whole system
[06:48] <weiyang> amanthakur, how to configure it or others
[06:48] <weiyang> amanthakur, while, I face the confusion when find there are several version?
[06:48] <weiyang> amanthakur, different configuration?
[06:52] <ogzy> anybody who had experince with hand scanners and ubuntu usage?
[06:52] <weiyang> ogzy, hand scanner?
[06:53] <ogzy> weiyang: like fingerprint but scan your palm trace
[06:53] <amanthakur> weiyang, https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=what+happens+after+forking+%2Fsbin%2Finit&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=Fdy&channel=fs&sclient=psy-ab&q=understanding+init&oq=understanding+init&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...4961.5541.2.5783.2.2.0.0.0.1.592.592.5-1.1.0...0.0.fSDJ69G54zE&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=8bd56e085f5f7fd2&biw=1024&bih=600
[06:54] <randi> well just went back and installed 10.10 again until i find a fix for the wifi
[06:57] <szal> randi: uhm.. 10.10 is dead, no more updates for it
[06:58] <randi> yep but my wifi doesn't seem to work on anything later
[06:58] <randi> tried every fix i could find
[06:59] <weiyang> amanthakur, i find similar document on net,
[06:59] <ForSpareParts> Anyone ever have intermittent black screen / fan 100% with an AMD card?
[06:59] <weiyang> but it still explain some thing on inittab
[07:00] <MacFan> hi niggers
[07:01] <MacFan> Please fucking kill yourself you inept imbecil cunts
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> !op | Maccer
[07:02] <randi> lol
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> oops sorry Maccer
[07:02] <ForSpareParts> wilee-nilee, is that just a list of all the mods?
[07:03] <Tm_T>  ForSpareParts to alert all ops
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> ForSpareParts, it calls the ubuntu-ops channel
[07:03] <ForSpareParts> ops?
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> mods
[07:03] <chu> Operators.
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> moderators
[07:03] <ForSpareParts> Ah. Okay.
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> They are usually on though ForSpareParts
[07:04] <randi> i wonder if the ndiswrapper will work with the ar5008 drivers
[07:10] <cougar_> I was wondering if anyone might could help me out here. I initially created a liveboot usb from my usb external hard drive. However, when attempting to install ubuntu on my laptop, somehow I derped and installed it on my external. So now my laptop is misssing a OS and I can't get the liveboot to boot instead of regular Ubuntu. Any ideas or directions for search for me?
[07:13] <EliahKagan> It sounds like the problem is that your laptop doesn't let you choose which of multiple USB devices to boot, and is booting the big hard drive rather than the flash drive (and you want it to boot the flash drive). The easiest solution is to unplug the big hard drive from the computer and let it boot off the flash drive. Then plug the big hard drive in. Then do Install Ubuntu.
[07:13] <cougar_> Let me clarify
[07:14] <cougar_> both the liveboot files and the now full ubuntu install are on the same external hard drive
[07:14] <EliahKagan> Oh I see, and when you boot from the external hard drive, it boots the live boot files instead of the full Ubuntu install.
[07:14] <cougar_> No, it boots the full ubuntu install
[07:14] <cougar_> But I want to boot the liveboot
[07:15] <EliahKagan> And you want it to boot the live boot files, to install on the internal drive?
[07:15] <cougar_> So that I can install ubuntu onto my os-less laptop
[07:15] <cougar_> yes!
[07:15] <cougar_> :-D
[07:15] <EliahKagan> Is the external hard drive the only disk you have besides the internal hard disk?
[07:15] <kerrupt> .
[07:15] <cougar_> Yes.
[07:16] <cougar_> Normally I'd have just gotten a CD-RW
[07:16] <EliahKagan> Does your laptop have a CD/DVD drive?
[07:16] <cougar_> But it wasn't available at the time
[07:16] <cougar_> It does. But I don't have a CD-RW to make a boot cd
[07:16] <EliahKagan> you don't actually need a CD-RW, a CD-R will work (i.e., the CD doesn't have to be REwriteable)
[07:16] <cougar_> Right. Excuse me. I meant a cd in general.
[07:17] <EliahKagan> k
[07:17] <EliahKagan> brb
[07:19] <cougar_> No problem.
[07:20] <DaZ> cougar_: so the only os you have is on the external and you can boot it? :f
[07:21] <waxstone> in System Settings->Details->Graphics I see Driver Unknown but my graphics driver (Nvidia) was installed through "Additional Drivers" Widget. Am i missing something?
[07:21] <DaZ> usually when i setup os on a different drive, and it's too dumb to let me do it with chroot, i set it through a virtual machine :f
[07:22] <tnf-phoenix> how do i get my scanner working?
[07:22] <tnf-phoenix> not a lot of libs when i sudoed.
[07:22] <DaZ> waxstone: does it work? :f
[07:23] <cougar_> Yes DaZ
[07:23] <EliahKagan> cougar_: Since the live system on the external is probably not configured to be booted through the boot loader that was installed on the external in the installation process, the only ways I know of to make the external drive boot into the live system would involve booting from some other disk to change things on the external drive. That's not going to work for you, because you don't have any other disk. I think there might be a w
[07:23] <EliahKagan> ay to boot into the live system on the external drive by issuing commands manually on the grub> prompt, but I don't know what commands would do that for you. However, there is another solution that comes to mind, which does not involve attempting to boot from the live system at all.
[07:23] <waxstone> Daz: Im experencing RANDOM freezing so technically no
[07:23] <cougar_> I'm listening Eliah
[07:24] <EliahKagan> (typing) :-)
[07:24] <EliahKagan> cougar_: Ubuntu's graphical installer, Ubiquity, can be installed on a non-live system, such as the system you can currently boot to on the external drive. You could install the package ubiquity in this system, and use it to install Ubuntu to the hard drive. This may or may not be painless, because I am not sure you have a package source handy. But you can create one if you don't.
[07:25] <EliahKagan> cougar_: Before you try anything like that, though, there is something else that you should check. Are you absolutely sure that the OS *is* actually installed on the external drive? Is it possible that the OS is installed on the internal drive like you wanted, but that the GRUB2 boot loader is installed on the external drive? This would cause the operating system on the internal drive to require the external drive to be attached,
[07:25] <EliahKagan> in order to boot.
[07:25] <yaboo> anyone using ivy bridge with ubuntu
[07:26] <EliahKagan> This is also a much easier mistake to make installing, than anything I can think of that would both wipe out the internal disk and also install to the same disk that you were booted from for the installation.
[07:27] <cougar_> .... To be completely honest. I'm not 100% positive. The reason I believe it is installed on my external is because when I look at the files and folders on my external, I see all the normal system folders for a full ubuntu which weren't previously there.
[07:27] <cougar_> also, if I attempt to power on my laptop without my external plugged in, it goes to a blinking dash that doesn't change and if I attempt to press buttons I get a system beep.
[07:28] <EliahKagan> cougar_: Does the external drive's access light activate (flicker) when you access these files?
[07:28] <cougar_> The external just has a on/off light. I.e. if it is powered on it will maintain a constant light (no flicker)
[07:29] <cougar_> However, I just checked, and I can physically feel the disk whirring in the external when I attempt to access new files.
[07:29] <EliahKagan> Do you know the sizes (about) of the external and internal drives? (I'm just trying to think of a simple way to check which has the OS, since your situation is already pretty complicated.)
[07:29] <EliahKagan> if you feel that when accessing the files and not otherwise, then it's on the external drive
[07:30] <cougar_> Right. My external is a terrabyte, but it did not install the whole TB because I had other data on it. My laptop is ~500 GB (I'm not actually positive)
[07:30] <cougar_> I really appreciate the help and you listening thus far by the way.
[07:31] <cougar_> Can you remember the terminal command off the top of your head for listing disk partitions?
[07:31] <EliahKagan> Do you have important other data on your external? Are you sure that data remains accessible? (We should be sure of that first.)
[07:31] <EliahKagan> cougar_: the two most popular options are "sudo fdisk -l" and "sudo parted -l"
[07:32] <EliahKagan> cougar_: you can list mounted partitions and their mount options with "mount" and you can list most mounted partitions and the amount of used, free, and total space with "df -h"
[07:33] <cougar_> I'm going to copy what I see here and see if you can tell me what I'm seeing better than I can
[07:34] <cougar_> Filesystem             Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[07:34] <cougar_> /dev/sda1              591G   12G  549G   3% /
[07:34] <cougar_> udev                   2.7G  4.0K  2.7G   1% /dev
[07:34] <cougar_> tmpfs                  1.1G  916K  1.1G   1% /run
[07:34] <cougar_> none                   5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[07:34] <cougar_> none                   2.7G  180K  2.7G   1% /run/shm
[07:34] <FloodBot1> cougar_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:34] <EliahKagan> cougar_: if you want to try the Ubiquity idea, the actual package you'd install is ubiquity-frontend-gtk ...but i'm searching for information on this and there isn't a lot of it, Ubiquity does not seem designed to work in this way, so it might be best for you to just obtain a a few burnable CD's (a few in case you get a bad burn or something)
[07:35] <EliahKagan> cougar_: that looks like output from "df -h" but if there is no mounted partition on the internal drive, then you won't see it; you might want to run "sudo fdisk -l" or "sudo parted -l" instead
[07:36] <cougar_> Yeah it is.
[07:36] <EliahKagan> you can paste at http://paste.ubuntu.com -- that gives you a link to your pasted text, which you can post here
[07:36] <cougar_> Yeah. Thanks for that. I didn't know that previous
[07:37] <EliahKagan> cougar_: Did you have important data on the external drive that you wanted to retain?
[07:38] <cougar_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014343/
[07:38] <cougar_> I mean... I would like to not lose it if at all possible.
[07:38] <cougar_> Do you have an idea that would require losing it that would work?
[07:38] <vexaxv> hey guys, does anyone use freeotfe?
[07:38] <waxstone> in System Settings->Details->Graphics I see Driver Unknown but my graphics driver (Nvidia) was installed through "Additional Drivers" Widget. Am i missing something?
[07:39] <EliahKagan> cougar_: No, I just wanted to make sure you didn't *already* lose it.
[07:39] <EliahKagan> cougar_: I wanted to make sure you have successfully accessed it from within your currently installed Ubuntu system.
[07:39] <cougar_> Oh no. I can browse to it and use it fine, yes.
[07:39] <cougar_> It is indeed still there.
[07:39]  * EliahKagan sighs with relief. Good!
[07:40] <cougar_> Is there anyway to simply move the ubuntu install from my external to my internal HD? XD
[07:40] <vexaxv> okay does anyone know of a good flash drive encryption software for ubuntu 12.04 64 bit??
[07:41] <Mnemonic^> Hi, does anyone know how to make SSH (server) NOT start at boot time. I cant figure out why it is starting. There are no scripts for it in /etc/rc#.d catalogs.
[07:41] <EliahKagan> cougar_: Yes, you can move it...if you can run off an operating system other than it. You could attempt to move it from itself, but this would likely not work, and you might have subtle errors in the target system as a result.
[07:42] <cougar_> Gotcha. So no. hmm...
[07:42] <cougar_> I wish I could just create an image and then push the image to the seperate hard drive.
[07:42] <EliahKagan> cougar_: The best thing to do might be to buy a cheap (it could be relatively small, like 1 GB) USB flash drive
[07:42] <cougar_> Yeah. I guess so.
[07:43] <cougar_> Thanks anyway
[07:43] <wilee-nilee> vexaxv, truecrypt
[07:43] <vexaxv> wilee-nilee yeah but that computer has to have truecrypt i wanted freeotf cause you could build it on the usb
[07:44] <vexaxv> i guess i could just copy the files over
[07:45] <yellabs-r2> i wnat to buy an Trust slimline tablet TB-5300 , does it work on 12.04 out of the box ?
[07:45] <yellabs-r2> any one got this running ?
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> vexaxv, I have not heard of a app that will just install to the flash, you can buy a flash that has that though.
[07:45] <EliahKagan> cougar_: I wonder if you can run debian-installer (the text-based installer that is on the Ubuntu alternate CD) from inside an installed system.
[07:45] <EliahKagan> cougar_: That would be something to look into.
[07:45] <vexaxv> well maybe ill see if i can copy truecrypts files onto the drive
[07:45] <cougar_> I agree. Would be great
[07:46] <yellabs-r2> is wizardpen installed , or should i install it to get Trust slimline tablet TB-5300 working, any one using this drawing tablet ?
[07:46] <Abhijit> hi
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> vexaxv, if the flash was big enough you could have a full install, a minimal anyway and a encrypted partition
[07:46] <yellabs-r2> ah , i see its ppa
[07:47] <Abhijit> whats the keyboard shortcut to switch from 'Windows' Tab to 'Applications' tab in gnome3 shell?
[07:47] <vexaxv> i just bought the corsair voyager gt 64 gb the other day :)
[07:47] <vexaxv> 100 bucks man lol
[07:47] <vexaxv> was soo worth it though
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> vexaxv, or just a encrypted minimal install
[07:48] <yellabs-r2> well, i guess i will just try it out, since no one has it here :)
[07:48] <yellabs-r2> thanks for your time sofar
[07:48] <yellabs-r2> :P
[07:48] <EliahKagan> cougar_: unfortunately i have to sign off now, but you may want to research this...or, you could see if other people enter the channel who know (you shouldn't reask a lot, but as hours pass and there are more users here)...or you could ask (search first) someplace like the Ubuntu Forums or AskUbuntu or Launchpad Answers
[07:48] <cougar_> Right. I'm in the process of googling. Thanks a lot for the help.
[07:49] <EliahKagan> cougar_: or i'll be back in here at some point and would probably be willing to continue looking into it...but it sounds like you want your computer working without the external attached sooner rather than later ....so, good luck! (and remember that suggestion about the USB flash drive ;-) )
[07:52] <Abhijit> whats the keyboard shortcut to switch from 'Windows' Tab to 'Applications' tab in gnome3 dash?
[07:53] <stuk_gen> hi all :)
[07:54] <waxstone> in System Settings->Details->Graphics I see Driver Unknown but my graphics driver (Nvidia) was installed through "Additional Drivers" Widget. 12.04 in 64bit?
[07:54] <stuk_gen> i can i get a total md5 sum for every files in a folder?
[07:54] <Ben64> md5sum *
[07:54] <stuk_gen> i can use md5sum * but this command get me the md5sum for every files not a total sum
[07:55] <Ben64> you can't really get a total sum from multiple files
[07:55] <stuk_gen> i can't get something like file1 md5 + file 2 md5 ecc.. ?
[07:56] <Ben64> what do you mean +
[07:57] <stuk_gen> totalmd5sum = md5sum(file1) + md5sum(file2) + md5sum(file3)
[07:57] <jagguli> hi im trying to set up a headless x server to connect to over ssh and run x apps
[07:57] <jagguli> i tried this Xvfb :0 -pn -nolisten tcp -audit 4 -screen 0 800x600x16
[07:57] <Ben64> stuk_gen: would be very unreliable
[07:57] <jagguli> and tried connecting using ssh -X
[07:57] <stuk_gen> Ben64: simple a md5sum of a folder
[07:58] <stuk_gen> Ben64: its impossibile?
[07:58] <Ben64> why can't you just `md5sum *`
[08:01] <lorddelta> So...classic question I suppose. How to script the screen on?
[08:01] <lorddelta> I figured out the turning it off part.
[08:02] <stuk_gen> Ben64: ok...maybe i don't understand something...thanks
[08:02] <lorddelta> xset dpms force off (among other things, such as using i2c directly or vbetool)
[08:02] <lorddelta> But how do I get the screen to force ON?! I can't really test this from an ssh machine, but its not working with at...
[08:03] <lorddelta> that is xset dpms force on does nothing, apparently.
[08:06] <Abhijit> whats the keyboard shortcut to switch from 'Windows' Tab to 'Applications' tab in gnome3 dash?
[08:10] <user> any cloud thing there is really must have on linux, some SaaS where you just thouth. WOW! thats i so cool
[08:11] <dr_willis> huh?
[08:11] <CoJaBo> wat
[08:12] <user> Like Zoho.. i just want to host it my self
[08:13] <user> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVpr4VD9-_s
[08:14] <waxstone> in System Settings->Details->Graphics I see Driver Unknown but my graphics driver (Nvidia) was installed through "Additional Drivers" Widget. 12.04 in 64bit?
[08:15] <waxstone> anyone have any ideas?
[08:15] <dr_willis> run the nvidia-settings tool see what it says
[08:15] <fasta> Where can I set DPI settings for gtk applications?
[08:16] <wawowe> fasta: ~/.Xdefaults
[08:17] <wawowe> fasta: Xft.dpi: 120
[08:17] <fasta> wawowe: that should also get me _smaller_ letters, right?
[08:17] <waxstone> dr_willis, x server settings panel runs/opens without issue
[08:17] <fasta> wawowe: i.e. when I use a higher value.
[08:17] <wawowe> fasta: lower value would be smaller letters
[08:18] <waxstone> dr_willis, says NVIDIA Driver Version 295.40
[08:18] <fasta> wawowe: why? If there are more dots per inch, the dots need to be smaller.
[08:18] <dr_willis> waxstone:  sometimes those tools get confused and say the drivers are not in use when they in fact are in use.  the 'nvidia-settings' tool is about the only  one ive seen thats always correct
[08:18] <wawowe> fasta: no they don't
[08:18] <waxstone> dr_willis,  oh ok, its just that ive been experiencing random freezing so trying to solve
[08:19] <fasta> wawowe: because?
[08:19] <fasta> wawowe: anyway, the problem is that I know have letters of 3cm high in Emacs.
[08:19] <fasta> wawowe: if I set DPI to 96 I get extremely jagged letters.
[08:19] <wawowe> fasta: if there are more dots per inch they stay the same size and the letters get bigger
[08:20] <fasta> wawowe: then it's not per inch anymore.
[08:20] <wawowe> fasta: choose a different number
[08:20] <MoFacta> Hi all.  Quick question.  Anyone using Opera web browser?  Is there a flash plugin available for it?
[08:20] <fasta> wawowe: then it will be jagged again.
[08:21] <fasta> MoFacta: yes, there is.
[08:21] <fasta> MoFacta: the same one firefox uses.
[08:23] <wawowe> fasta: my fonts aren't jagged
[08:24] <fasta> wawowe: and mine are.
[08:28] <dr_willis> !fonts
[08:29] <pungi-man> can anyone tell me a good site to test my typing speed??
[08:29] <abrahadabra> i
[08:29] <abrahadabra> hi
[08:30] <fidel_> !ot > pungi-man
[08:31] <pungi-man> sorry!
[08:31] <samfisher> hi. i have a user logged in to ubuntu 12.04 but when I do "w" or "who" as root i get just, me, root
[08:31] <wawowe> samfisher: are they running a root shell?
[08:32] <samfisher> no
[08:33] <samfisher> i am sshing in as root. they're just regular users
[08:33] <pungi-man> samfisher, just because you have only one account that is root
[08:33] <samfisher> how can I see al logged in users then?
[08:33] <samfisher> and their idle time
[08:33] <wawowe> samfisher: normally w
[08:34] <wawowe> samfisher: try ps aux | grep user
[08:34] <hceylan> Hey hot a problem with the sound
[08:35] <samfisher> wawowe: it works with ps but not with w
[08:35] <hceylan> I got 12.04
[08:35] <hceylan> I got a bluetooth input stream
[08:35] <hceylan> I am trying to output that
[08:35] <wildint> is there a particular ubuntu channel thats better for boot issues/rescue mode not working
[08:35] <hceylan> but it doesn't work
[08:35] <hceylan> anyone can help?
[08:35] <hceylan> I also tried with the microphone
[08:35] <hceylan> but it just doesn't get diverted to the output
[08:36] <ceti331_> greetings
[08:37] <wildint> I'm stuck, grub reinstall fails, no details... rescue shell chroot fails with error, and I can't unmount /dev/sda to try and fsck it - not sure what's left to try and get this image to boot
[08:37] <wawowe> samfisher: does w -u show anything different?
[08:38] <wawowe> wildint: chroot and run grub-install /dev/sda
[08:39] <wawowe> hceylan: you're trying to output sound to a microphone?
[08:39] <hceylan> I got input from bluetooth
[08:39] <hceylan> I am trying to output that to speakers
[08:40] <wildint> wawowe, chroot fails with some stupid error about /bin/sh
[08:40] <wawowe> hceylan: i've never tried that before but you might be able to do it with cat
[08:41] <wawowe> wildint: what's the error?
[08:41] <hceylan> cat from input device to direct to output device?
[08:41] <wawowe> hceylan: yeah, cat /dev/input >/dev/output
[08:42] <hceylan> wawowe, I got /dev/input but no /dev/output
[08:42] <wawowe> hceylan: those were just examples
[08:42] <hceylan> wawowe, I see :)
[08:43] <wawowe> hceylan: the devices you're looking for will probably be in /dev/snd/
[08:43] <hceylan> wawowe, would you happen to locate the devices, cause I cannot find for example /dev/bluetooth or /dev/bt
[08:43] <hceylan> wawowe, may lsof pulseaudio shed some light?
[08:44] <wawowe> hceylan: i can't tell you what they'll be named on your system but they'll most likely be in /dev/snd/ and begin with "pcm"
[08:44] <wawowe> hceylan: yes it could
[08:45] <hceylan> wawowe, thx
[08:45] <wildint> wawowe, chroot can't execute '/bin/sh': Exec format error
[08:45] <wawowe> hceylan: lsof | grep snd
[08:45] <lo> hello guye
[08:45] <hceylan>  cat /dev/snd/controlC1 > /dev/snd/controlC0
[08:46] <hceylan> /dev/snd/controlC1: File descriptor in bad state
[08:46] <hceylan> same vice-versa
[08:46] <dr_willis> wildint: either currupt binary file.  or are yopu chrooting onto a 32bit os from a 64bit boot disk or visa-versa
[08:46] <wawowe> wildint: try chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[08:46] <hceylan> wawowe, obviously that won't help
[08:46] <wawowe> wildint: and this is assuming you have sda1 mounted there
[08:46] <Guest11245> Guys, I need to know how to pass by the password to install packets.
[08:46] <hceylan> wawowe, but thanks anyway
[08:46] <dr_willis> Guest11245:  clarify what you mean exactly.
[08:46] <wildint> wawowe, yup sda on mnt both disc and os are 64 bit
[08:47] <wawowe> hceylan: run a program that uses your microphone
[08:47] <wawowe> hceylan: and one that uses your speakers
[08:47] <hceylan> wawowe, that could be interesting
[08:47] <user> omg...
[08:47] <wawowe> hceylan: then lsof | grep snd
[08:47] <wildint> wawowe, basically same error
[08:47] <user> how do i start xampp on 12.04??
[08:47] <hceylan> wawowe, l'll try that
[08:47] <Guest11245> U have to install pack of "kadu" by terminal, but host want to type password.
[08:47] <dr_willis> !info kadu
[08:48] <Guest11245> Thanks.
[08:48] <dr_willis> Guest11245:  you use your users password if they hae sudo rights
[08:48] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install kadu
[08:48] <dr_willis> !xampp
[08:49] <wawowe> wildint: type "mount" to see if anything is mounted inside /mnt to prevent your from unmounting
[08:49] <wawowe> wildint: to make sure run: umount /mnt/{proc,sys,dev,boot,usr,var,home}
[08:50] <wildint> wawowe, nothing else is mounted under /mnt
[08:50] <Solaris444> Hi all, just wondering if Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS supports the Intel Z77 chipset.
[08:51] <wawowe> wildint: lsof | grep mnt
[08:51] <wawowe> wildint: kill whatever process shows up
[08:51] <wildint> Solaris444, is there something extremely unusual abou that chipset
[08:52] <wildint> wawowe, I'm in the 12.04 installer disc rescue mode , lsof isn't even on it
[08:52] <Solaris444> wildint: Only that it's brand new.
[08:52] <Solaris444> It has USB3 built in I think, but I'm not especially worried about that since this is going into a small file server.
[08:52] <wawowe> wildint: do you have any terminals that are sitting in /mnt?
[08:52] <Solaris444> And if the network chipset isn't recognised I'll just throw an intel e1000 in there.
[08:53] <dr_willis> Solaris444:  try it and see is the best answer.
[08:53] <dr_willis> 12.04 server may work better.
[08:53] <wildint> Solaris444, oh I didn't realize you were talking about a network chip
[08:53] <Solaris444> dr_willis: Not really any good once the parts have been bought.
[08:53] <Solaris444> wildint: No, Z77 is Intel's new mainboard chipset.
[08:53] <wildint> wawowe, there is only 1 terminal, it's a fresh boot
[08:54] <Solaris444> I just mean that I can work around any issues with USB or networking.
[08:54] <Solaris444> But I can't if the mainboard isn't supported.
[08:54] <wildint> Solaris444, as long as it's x86 or x86_64 it should work, whether all it's fancy features are accessible is another question
[08:54] <Solaris444> dr_willis: I'm sure 12.04 would be better, yes. But that's not an option right now.
[08:54] <Solaris444> wildint: Fair point.
[08:55] <wildint> Solaris444, probably more important to check if the motherboard has and weird proprietary stuff on it that you won't be able to find drivers for
[08:56] <hceylan> wawowe, thx for help
[08:56] <hceylan> that didn't help either
[08:56] <hceylan> I'll seek help in pulseaudio
[08:56] <Solaris444> Hmm, I doubt it wildint.
[08:57] <Solaris444> Phoronix has an article on Z77 from April. I might check that out.
[08:57] <user> !xampp
[08:58] <wawowe> wildint: how did sda1 get mounted in the first place?
[09:00] <swine_> hey, what would cause an initctl command to hang ?
[09:01] <Solaris444> what was the exact command you issued swine_?
[09:01] <swine_> initctl stop/start servicename
[09:02] <Solaris444> That wasn't the command you issued.
[09:02] <swine_> i wrote the control file for the service i'm starting
[09:02] <zetheroo> Just did an update on my laptop running 11.10 and now my external speakers no longer work!! The laptop speakers work but when I plug the external speaker in there is no audio output at all ...
[09:02] <swine_> initctl stop zing-httpd
[09:02] <Solaris444> What command did you *actually* issue swine_?
[09:02] <swine_> if that makes you feel any better :)
[09:02] <Solaris444> ah ok.
[09:02] <Solaris444> and it's hanging when you try to stop it?
[09:02] <swine_> sometimes when i start it too
[09:03] <swine_> if interrupt it and then call stop again it won't hang
[09:03] <swine_> will say that it's already stopped
[09:03] <Solaris444> Then it sounds like your script is waiting on some information that it's never receiving.
[09:03] <Solaris444> I doubt it's initctl's fault.
[09:03] <swine_> it's a very simple script
[09:03] <Solaris444> zetheroo: Did you restart your laptop?
[09:03] <Solaris444> swine_: Even simple scripts can go wrong.
[09:03] <Solaris444> paste the script into pastebin.
[09:04] <Solaris444> I always say to my students that if you have 3 lines of code you probably have at least 3 bugs.
[09:04] <swine_> Solaris444, http://pastebin.com/FZmfWY8C
[09:04] <zetheroo> Solaris444: yes, and I also tried deleting /.pulse and rebooting ...
[09:04] <lorddelta> I'll repeat my question: How can I setup a script to turn ON my screen? I've tried at + xset dpms force on, hasn't worked. I'd appreciate knowing why, or if there's another path I can try to take. Like, an issue with at that would make a difference, or whether I should be looking into the i2c interface more.
[09:05] <Solaris444> lorddelta: What do you mean "turn it on"?
[09:05] <Solaris444> Do you mean wake it up from sleep?
[09:05] <swine_> Solaris444, you see anything interesting there ?
[09:06] <lorddelta> Solaris444: xset dpms force off turns the screen power off. And blanks the screen (since this isn't e-ink). I want to be able to schedule the screen to turn back on.
[09:06] <Solaris444> swine_ most likely point of failure is the final line.
[09:06] <Solaris444> Try running it by itself and seeing what happens.
[09:06] <swine_> what do you mean by 'running it by itself' ?
[09:07] <Solaris444> lorddelta: You could always try simulating a keypress.
[09:07] <Solaris444> swine_: Issue the command to start you http daemon as it is written on the final line of your script and see what happens.
[09:08] <lorddelta> Solaris444: If I was happy with making breakfast by pulling the string to pull the hammer to spin the wheel to...etc. etc., yes maybe I could try that ;)
[09:08] <swine_> Solaris444, it runs fine
[09:08] <Solaris444> Also it seems a bit strange that you would start on filesystem. It really should start on network.
[09:08] <wildint> wawowe, I mounted it myself
[09:09] <Solaris444> swine_: It's not a question of whether it "runs fine" but what kind of output it gives you.
[09:09] <Solaris444> lorddelta: Well since zset dpms force on isn't working...
[09:09] <Solaris444> *xset
[09:09] <swine_> Solaris444, there's no output
[09:10] <lorddelta> I want to know what the interfaces for correctly controlling the screen power itself might be. If I have to use i2c I suppose I could...but I've programmed screens/driver that used SPI/I2C, so I know that can be a hastle.
[09:10] <swine_> forks off, return code 0
[09:10] <sa7elak> Hello is there a tool to help me to get the right driver to my video card ?
[09:10] <dr_willis> sa7elak:  what video card
[09:10] <sa7elak> sis
[09:10] <lorddelta> Solaris444: Yes. But the solution would be to fix xset dpms force on...or understand why at might not be able to call that successfully.
[09:10] <sa7elak> sis671 <dr_willis>
[09:11] <dr_willis> sis? Egads...  those things are very poorly supported by the company
[09:11] <dr_willis> does it work at all?
[09:11] <Solaris444> swine_: Then I don't know. You might just have to add some debugging information to your script to see where it's getting stuck.
[09:11] <sa7elak> yeah I've been told so <dr_willis>
[09:11] <swine_> Solaris444, what script ? there's nothing there
[09:12] <Solaris444> And like I said, you've got "start on filesystem" for starters.
[09:12] <Solaris444> Go through line by line. Pretend you've never seen it before.
[09:12] <swine_> eh ?
[09:12] <swine_> what's "start on filesystem' ?
[09:12] <Solaris444> In the 3rd line of your script.
[09:12] <swine_> oh
[09:13] <dr_willis> 'run the service after the filesytems are all mounted'   (i belive is what thats saying to do)
[09:13] <Solaris444> Did you just copy and paste another script and then add your command to the end?
 i copied the driver files manually and to get higher resolution , I got the higher resolution but i still feel that the resolution is not correct also i get crash while playing vedios
[09:13] <swine_> Solaris444, more or less, yes
[09:13] <swine_> there's really nothing special here
[09:13] <swine_> or shouldn't be
[09:13] <dr_willis> sa7elak:  hard to offer any suggestions. if its working at all.. you should consider youreslf lucky
[09:14] <Solaris444> swine_, stop assuming. Go and understand what every line of that script does and then you'll find out why it's hanging.
[09:14] <dr_willis> sa7elak:  the forums or askubuntu.com may have some better info or guides
[09:14] <Bug2000> Any clues why writing to UFD be only 1/10 the speed of Windows on Linux?
 thanks a lot.
 i will check it out
[09:15] <swine_> Solaris444, fantastic insight
[09:15] <lorddelta> Hum dum. Someone told akonadi to use mysql by default huh? Silly people. Some people installed mysql for other stuff ;)
[09:15] <aLeSD> someone knows where I could fins a -realtime kernel for 12.04 ?
[09:15] <Solaris444> swine_, you've copied and pasted somebody else's code, and you don't understand it. Why would you assume it would work properly?
[09:16] <swine_> Solaris444, because it looks like every other service out there
[09:16] <Solaris444> No, it doesn't.
[09:17] <Solaris444> Your script is hanging because the instructions you've given it *tell* it to hang.
[09:17] <swine_> and which instuctions are those ?
[09:17] <swine_> this is why i came in here
[09:17] <swine_> i was asking what's a likely cause of a hang
[09:17] <Solaris444> The 18 lines of code in pastebin.
[09:17] <swine_> uhuh
[09:17] <swine_> i'm guessing that this is a common problem with upstart services
[09:17] <Solaris444> No, it isn't.
[09:17] <Solaris444> It's a common problem with people who mess around with code they don't understand.
[09:18] <dr_willis> if its using network features - it needs to be told to start after networking is avilable.
[09:18] <Solaris444> You haven't even tried to understand the problem yourself.
[09:18] <Solaris444> I told him that already dr_willis. He hasn't listened.
[09:18] <dr_willis> not after the filesystems get mounted
[09:18] <swine_> dr_willis, i'm running initctl on the commandline
[09:18] <Solaris444> Because it's "just like every other service".
[09:18] <dr_willis> !upstart
[09:19] <Solaris444> swine_, we cannot debug your script for you. You don't understand it and we don't have access to your computer.
[09:19] <Solaris444> Please, go and try to understand how the code you've written *works*.
[09:24] <zhanger> am I using base64 wrong or something? I have a file named "gen" filed with random numbers and i'm running "base64 gen" but it seems to just encode the actual text "gen" instead
[09:24] <zhanger> i tried cat gen | base64 but that didn't work, using ubuntu 11.04
[09:25] <llutz> zhanger: base64 <filename>    should work™
[09:25] <Solaris444> zhanger, you might want to brush up on your output redirction.
[09:26] <zhanger> Solaris444 what's wrong with it :(
[09:26] <lorddelta> omg stuff works now that akonadi uses sqlite...why is the mysql default again? :P
[09:26] <llutz> zhanger: you're using the one from GNU-coreutils?
[09:26] <zhanger> yes llutz
[09:26] <Solaris444> you're sending the contents of the file gen to base64 as the input.
[09:26] <llutz> zhanger: does fine here
[09:26] <zhanger> Solaris444 because it seems to be reading from input
[09:26] <zhanger> alex@alex-ubu:~$ base64 gen
[09:26] <zhanger> Z2Vu
[09:26] <Eagleman> Is it possible to get some space between this? (date +%m-%d-%Y-%I:%M) %Y and %I
[09:26] <llutz> zhanger: "gen " exist in $PWD?
[09:27] <zhanger> yes
[09:27] <llutz> zhanger: try "base64 path/to/gen"
[09:27] <zhanger> alex@alex-ubu:~$ base64 /home/alex/gen
[09:27] <zhanger> L2hvbWUvYWxleC9nZW4=
[09:27] <zhanger> as i said, it's hasing the literal text
[09:27] <zhanger> for some reason
[09:27] <llutz> Eagleman: yes, use +'formatstrings formatstrings'
[09:27] <zhanger> quite puzzling
[09:28] <llutz> zhanger: base64 --version
[09:28] <TBarth> Eagleman, date "+%m-%d-%Y %I:%M"
[09:28] <zhanger> ... that just generates a encoded version of "--version"
[09:28] <zhanger> @llutz
[09:28] <zhanger> i think something's wrong with my version
[09:28] <zhanger> should i reinstall coreutils?
[09:28] <llutz> zhanger: output of "which base64"?
[09:29] <erappleman> grr
[09:29] <zhanger>  /usr/bin/base64
[09:29] <erappleman> can't build 32-bit wine on amd64
[09:29] <zhanger> @ llutz
[09:29] <erappleman> is there really no way to do this?
[09:29] <llutz> zhanger: ls   -l $(which base64)
[09:29] <TBarth> Ubuntu preferred the 32 bit version ;-)
[09:29] <erappleman> i have 24gb of ram
[09:29] <erappleman> why would i use pae?
[09:30] <Eagleman> Thanks TBarth
[09:30] <zhanger> llutz : -rwxrwxrwx 1 alex alex 6656 2012-05-07 22:24 /usr/bin/base64
[09:30] <llutz> zhanger: strange... size too small imho, owner/group wrong... reinstall coreutils
[09:31] <zhanger> llutz : does it matter i ran apt-src install coreutils earlier
[09:31] <llutz> zhanger: it might, yes
[09:31] <tichku> i i am facing problem in loading ubuntu on beagle board sd card how to do that....?
[09:32] <dr_willis> erappleman:  normaly wine runs fine  for me - if im on 64 or 32bit  ubuntu.
[09:32] <dr_willis> erappleman:  i normally only use 64bit ubuntu,and dont recall any wine issues
[09:32] <zhanger> ummm llutz what would be the proper command for reinstallation, apt-get remove then apt-get install?
[09:33] <llutz> zhanger: sudo aptitude reinstall coreutils
[09:34] <tichku> any1 know how to target a simulink model on ubnutu through matlab ....?
[09:34] <tichku> using beagle board
[09:34] <anatrof> Hi all, could someone give an advise where to ask about bug report to ubuntu acpi ?
[09:34] <Eagleman> TBarth i currently use this $(date +%m%d%Y) in a script but i want to use date "+%m-%d-%Y %I:%M" in my new script, but its giving me errors
[09:34] <himcesjf> tichku: Did you try #ubuntu-arm or #beagle ?
[09:35] <tichku> no i will try that
[09:35] <intore> hi, i've a problem. after installed pam_mount on ubuntu 11.04, at reboot time it remains stopped at boot screen "ubuntu" and it doesn't go on. after removing pam_mount it runs. coul you help me please?
[09:35] <himcesjf> tichku: And this is also a good resource - elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
[09:37] <zhanger> llutz -- thanks for your help, reinstalling fixed it
[09:37] <TBarth> Eagleman, in a shell script use this: human_date="$(date '+%m-%d-%Y %I:%M')"
[09:37] <zhanger> no clue why this happened in the first place :(
[09:39] <tichku> himcesjf it is not working i want matlab supportable ubuntu image for my beagle board..?
[09:39] <Eagleman> TBarth it's still not working: http://pastebin.com/yRrhuDax
[09:39] <tichku> from where will i get...?
[09:41] <mobhero> hi, how to setup VPN connection in ubuntu 12.04 desktop edition.
[09:42] <llutz> Eagleman: how should that work? you need to tput all right of = into quotes
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> andchat has been crashing like crazy on me today. ;(
[09:43] <llutz> Eagleman: this space "configbackup human_date"  is the problem
[09:43] <TBarth> Eeagleman, OUTPUTFILE="/media/usbbackupdisk/configbackups/configbackup_$(date '+%m-%d-%Y_ %I:%M').tar.gz"
[09:43] <Eagleman> yes i know, but i have no clue how to get it working
[09:43] <TBarth> Then dont use the spaces
[09:44] <llutz> Eagleman: spaces in filenames are ugly, avoid them whenever you can
[09:44] <zhanger> what if you put single quotes around it
[09:44] <zhanger> before /media and after .tar.gz
[09:45] <llutz> zhanger: sure you can quote them, but then   ".... tar -cvpzf $OUTPUTFILE ..."  still will fail
[09:45] <john_rambo> I want to add a mount point for sda3 in /media/sda3 in /etc/fstab What do I write ?
[09:45] <llutz> zhanger: its easier just not to use any spaces
[09:46] <Eagleman> i think thats the best solution llutz
[09:46] <zhanger> @ Eagleman (not really a bash scripter though)
[09:47] <Eagleman> well its rocket science for me to zhanger
[09:48] <epzil0n> john_rambo: you can use the UUID of that partition which you can find by using sudo blkid
[09:48] <zhangerr> grrr
[09:48] <zhangerr> random d/cs :\
[09:48] <cypher-neo> zhanger, What are you trying to do?
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> !fstab | john_rambo
[09:49] <zhangerr> cypher-neo: Eagleman 's the one who needs help with his script
[09:49] <cypher-neo> Oh
[09:49] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, What are you trying to do?
[09:50] <Eagleman> cypher-neo, i'm trying to create a script that saves the file using a date with minutes and put spaces in the file name
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> why the obsession with spaces?
[09:51] <Eagleman> Since it looks better
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> no it dosent
[09:51] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, Okay. I've done that before. Could I look at your script?
[09:51] <trevor_> whats a good program to run to have my desktop randomly select from several different wallpapers upon startup?
[09:51] <Eagleman> thats an opininion Dr_Willis
[09:51] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, Pastebin a copy of the script, and send me a link.
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> trevor_:  i recall some indicator applets or tools at askubuntu.com to do that.
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> Eagleman:  it definatly makes the code harder to read and managbe and uglier.
[09:52] <llutz> Eagleman: you can use spaces but you have to put your OUTPUTFILENAME in quotes too if you do
[09:52] <Eagleman> cypher-neo http://pastebin.com/Wdm1qzxQ
[09:52] <Eagleman> its all about OUTPUTFILE
[09:52] <llutz> Eagleman: and as i said, its easier just not to use any spaces
[09:52] <TBarth> Eagleman, that s no opinion, it s experience :)
[09:53] <zhangerr> wait can't you escape spaces by prepending a \
[09:53] <zhangerr> because like mkdir test\ directory
[09:53] <Eagleman> configbackup_05-30-2012_11:47.tar.gz is what i got now
[09:54] <llutz> Eagleman: if you don't quote OUTPUTFILE, it will end after " /media/usbbackupdisk/configbackups/configbackup" for tar
[09:54] <Eagleman> cypher-neo lets listen to the rest and do not use spaces, thanks for helping anyway.
[09:54] <llutz> Eagleman: whats wrong with it
[09:54] <llutz> Eagleman: one tipp: if you use date for backupfiles, let it start with year-month, easier to sort
[09:55] <john_rambo> Dr_Willis, Thanks
[09:55] <Eagleman> llutz its a weekly backup, and the disk is full within 160 days
[09:55] <Eagleman> so i will do a clean up then
[09:55] <llutz> Eagleman: you've heard about incremental backups? :)
[09:56] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, Okay, umm...
[09:56] <Eagleman> all i know about backups in linux is that its way to hard to understand for me
[09:56] <zhangerr> you should at least rotate the backups
[09:56] <llutz> Eagleman: have a look at rsnapshot
[09:56] <Eagleman> i'm just happy i got this working now
[09:56] <zhangerr> like delete ones older than x days old
[09:56] <lovelyubuntu> Hi I want to know how to install applications offline in ubuntu?
[09:56] <TBarth> my backupfiles look like this "virtual_mailboxes-120528-120528040001-data.1.dar" Easy to sort even with differencial backups
[09:57] <LjL> !offline | lovelyubuntu
[09:57] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, I think the problem is in the creation of the file itself. It's going to take me a few minutes... don't go away.
[09:57] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, I'm going to load this into a bash shell and play with it. :)
[09:57] <lovelyubuntu> ok so i can download any application by that way?
[09:57] <Eagleman> it works for me
[09:57] <Eagleman> it does what it needs to do so
[09:58] <LjL> lovelyubuntu: you should be able to, yes
[09:58] <zetheroo> after update no audio from audio jack though laptop speakers still work ... running 11.10 64bit
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> lovelyubuntu:  ones in the repos at least
[09:58] <user> ehm...
[09:58] <Eagleman> and why should i use this? OUTPUTFILE="/media/usbbackupdisk/configbackups/configbackup_$(date +%m-%d-%Y_%I:%M).tar.gz" what is the difference without quotes
[09:58] <zetheroo> tried rebooting, deleted .pulse directory, installed dkms ... no change
[09:59] <lovelyubuntu> Is there any other way, i heard compiling binary from source. how is that? I don't have Internet all the time.
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> lovelyubuntu:  most poeple dont need to use source
[10:00] <TBarth> Eagleman, think of a string and you to make clear where it starts and ends.
[10:00] <TBarth> you want
[10:00] <user> i have set a password on root user on mysql server from localhost.. hov do i add this to the phpmyadmin settings?
[10:02] <user> i found out
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> 5 seconds after you ask... ;) isent that always the case
[10:03] <lovelyubuntu> Apt on cd : This project has no files?????
[10:03] <zhanger> user: not 100% sure but check /etc/phpmyadmin/config-db.php
[10:04] <user> wrong place though ^ it is /phpmyadmin/config.inc.php
[10:04] <peterrooney> Eagleman: also, because it's a good habit.  if you're in the habit of doing things in bash you can 'get away with', it's going to bite you hard when you can't.
[10:05] <zhanger> oh
[10:05] <zhanger> user check /etc/dbconfig-common/phpmyadmin.conf
[10:05] <zhanger> ?
[10:05] <user> I have found out guys :D and u both are wrong :)
[10:06] <zhanger> what is it then
[10:06] <zhanger> :(
[10:06]  * peterrooney cringes upon noticing MM-dd-YYYY format, with a side of baseball bat.
[10:06] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, What I ended up doing was breaking up the piped command into separate lines. There's no need to use pipes in a BASH script, so I broke them up and called the file using more variables.
[10:06] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, I'm testing it now.
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt toss in m ore variables and quotes and single quotes. and some backticks for  luck!
[10:09] <cypher-neo> Dr_Willis, lol
[10:09] <Eagleman> haha
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> ;)  dont forget to use obscoure bash builtins also!
[10:09] <Eagleman> I think i'm gonna quit irc now xD
[10:09] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, Why are you using tee? If you're looking to backup the backup in a different location, why not use cp?
[10:10] <deavid> hi, a quick question. I'm looking for a kernel image which supports old cpu's in ubuntu precise 12.04; I have a LTSP and i need to change the kernel-image on the chroot in order to boot my pentium-II thin clients.
[10:10] <Eagleman> tee is to get the output of -v into a log file
[10:10] <deavid> anyone knows if there is a repository for that?
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> with spaces and quotes you gota sort  of think in how each time the 'string' gets parsed  - a layer of quotes gets stripped off and the variables interperted. so with nested quotes it gets handed down and parsed again ;)
[10:11] <Eagleman> what?
[10:11] <Abhijit> deavid, this http://askubuntu.com/questions/103536/need-ubuntu-with-old-kernel-2-6-31 and this http://thanhsiang.org/faqing/node/129 may help you
[10:11] <Eagleman> I dont see a reason why my scripts needs to get adjusted, it does exactly what i want it to do
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> for moar speeds!
[10:12] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, I'm just trying to get the filename to work.
[10:12] <Eagleman> well maybe, the only problem is that the cronjob is having some problems
[10:13] <Eagleman> *        4       *       *       3      /backups/scripts/sdabackups/ssdbackup
[10:13] <Eagleman> *        4       *       *       3      /backups/scripts/sdbbackups/hdd1backup
[10:13] <Eagleman> *        4       *       *       3      /backups/scripts/mysqlbackups/mysqlbackup
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> fancy bash quoteing skills - is a handy skill.  regrexps are even handier to know
[10:13] <Eagleman> it should backup everything around 4:00 midnight
[10:13] <lovelyubuntu> Guys please help i want to offline installation of my fav apps.
[10:13] <Eagleman> but when i looked this morning there was something whole different
[10:14] <cypher-neo> LOL
[10:14] <Eagleman> the mysqlbackup was created at 8:17 or something :S
[10:14] <cypher-neo> OMG. Eagleman, I got it
[10:14] <Eagleman> what do you got :P?
[10:15] <niceguy> please I am trying to install mod_perl on my ubuntu machine
[10:15] <TBarth> Eagleman, every day at four oclock: 0 4 * * *
[10:15] <deavid> Abhijit: those are assuming that newer kernels just doesn't work with old CPU, is that true? I believe that is some options in the kernel copilation that aren't suipported in the old hardware
[10:16] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, Darn... Almost had it
[10:16] <Abhijit> deavid, no idea
[10:16] <sirknight> hi
[10:16] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, I don't think spaces are going to work, exactly.
[10:16] <niceguy> anyone that know anything on installing mod_perl???????????
[10:16] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, Let me try one last thing, and then I'll pastebin what I have back to you.
[10:17] <Eagleman> cypher-neo i'm not using the spaces anymore
[10:18] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, Well, in that case, I'll just pastebin what I have.
[10:18] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/GaAfYAn0
[10:18] <sirknight> im haveing big trouble with trying to get out of a boot loop
[10:18] <Eagleman> this is what i've got now
[10:19] <angs> how can I connect to an access point by the wlan0 interface using iwconfig command?
[10:19] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, And what does the date look like in the filename?
[10:19] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, Does it come out okay?
[10:19] <TBarth> niceguy, mod_perl? What do you want to do?
[10:20] <niceguy> TBarth I just want to install it for cgi
[10:21] <Eagleman> cypher-neo configbackup_05-30-2012_12:04.tar.gz
[10:21] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, If you like it that way, then it works. I'm pretty close to cracking the spaced name though.
[10:22] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, I just have to remember what I did before... I'm very close.
[10:23] <Eagleman> cypher-neo i like it this way
[10:23] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, Okay, if you're happy I am too.
[10:23] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, What was your problem that I was supposed to help you with then?
[10:23] <TBarth> niceguy, you can find the complete list clearly with: aptitude search perl | grep cgi
[10:24] <niceguy> TBarth please do you use mod_perl
[10:25] <Eagleman> cypher-neo i have told you some minutes aigo that i dont need the spaces anymore since the majority of #ubuntu told me its better not to use spaces
[10:26] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, If you like it better with spaces... then all you need to do is learn how to put them in the file.
[10:26] <TBarth> niceguy, it s been a long time.
[10:26] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, Spaces are special characters in BASH. They need to be escaped in order to work correctly.
[10:26] <Lufti> hi ;)
[10:27] <Runner> Hey
[10:27] <niceguy> TBarth that command brought this out to stdout>> libcgi-pm-perl? does this mean its already installed
[10:27] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, I've been playing around with the script you gave me. I think I've got it working. All I changed was how the date was formatted, and I placed the space in the file name, not in the date
[10:28] <TBarth> niceguy, if there is an preceeding "i"  in the list, yes
[10:29] <niceguy> TBarth, it was a preceeding v
[10:30] <Lufti> lol, TBarth are my initials ;D
[10:30] <sirknight> im haveing big trouble with trying to get out of a boot loop. with no dvd drive
[10:30] <cypher-neo> Eagleman, If you need any more help with your BASH scripts, check out #bash
[10:31] <Lufti> Suddenly two samba shares I did access via nautilus URL smb://share/something display an empty folder while other pcs can see the content. Also it's impossible to create a new folder ("Permission denied"). I use the same account on both pcs (one is U11.10, the other U12.04).
[10:31] <Lufti> Any idea? Is there a cache or stored config about this share on my local PC that I can/must delete?
[10:32] <jolly_> hi sakura
[10:34] <TBarth> niceguy, more infos with  aptitude show  libcgi-pm-perl. This seems to be a part of the perl core distribution
[10:36] <fasta> What does chmod +s do?
[10:36] <fasta> And where is that in the manual?
[10:38] <TBarth> fasta, s-bit for directores e.g.
[10:38] <cypher-neo> fasta, set user or group ID on execution (s)
[10:38] <cypher-neo> fasta, man chmod
[10:39] <sirknight> im haveing big trouble with trying to get out of a boot loop. with no dvd drive
[10:39] <sirknight> how can i  get my pc too boot?
[10:40] <augustl> sirknight: reinstall perhaps?
[10:40] <augustl> if the reboot loop is due to a fresh install, of course
[10:41] <yandex38> Has anyone tried Fedora 17 yet?
[10:41] <sirknight> then how do i get to the grub menu.. i have win 7 starter and ubuntu 10.10//
[10:42] <sirknight> grub menu donest show up
[10:42] <yandex38> Ubuntu hides the grub menu by default
[10:42] <lix> sirknight: without DVD drive, you can also boot with a memorystick
[10:43] <sirknight> at one point yes,, but  it wont cauth on now after i reinstalled the mbr thinking it was that
[10:44] <sirknight> cant find the  usb drive at start up
[10:45] <schreber> is there a specific way I can search the repos via the terminal like apt-get search "blah" ?
[10:45] <ironhalik> schreber: apt-cache search *stuff*
[10:46] <ironhalik> and apt-cache show *stuff* for package details
[10:46] <schreber> ironhalik, thanks
[10:46] <ironhalik> sure
[10:46] <daniel_> I have a problem .. when I plug in my headphones the sound is redirected to the headphones but I can still hear it in the speakers ..how can I fix this ? on ubuntu 12.04 x64 acer 5930g
[10:47] <daniel_> this wasnt an issue for me on 10.10
[10:48] <yandex38> daniel_: Have you looked at the config files for pulseaudio?
[10:48] <daniel_> yandex38, I havent..
[10:48] <daniel_> yandex38, can u point me in the right direction ?
[10:49] <daniel_> yandex38, in the sound menu there is not a such option
[10:49] <daniel_> yandex38, should I install a new package or someting ?
[10:54] <GreekFreak> Hi all
[10:55] <riktking>  /ignore -channels #mwsf
[10:55] <riktking> oops
[10:55] <anonymous> hello
[10:56] <john_rambo> vlc's audio starts some secs late with the video
[10:56] <GreekFreak> I have installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a Pentium M with 500mb RAM (Old I know). Needless to say it's slow. I would like to know what I can do to make it run faster or if I should simply consider Lubuntu. I've logged in as 2D but tbh it doesn't seem all that different (in looks or speed)
[10:56] <jrib> GreekFreak: use a different desktop environment (you don't need to install lubuntu, just install the desktop environment you want)
[10:57] <Guest16612> help to become a hacker please
[10:57] <jrib> !source | Guest16612
[10:57] <jrib> !bugs | Guest16612
[10:57] <Blarrffll> lol@jrib
[10:57] <fayaz> hi, i'm in the middle of 'dd'ing a partition and it has been going on for several hours now. but now i need to view a file on it. can i safely mount this thing? at least read-only?
[10:57] <GreekFreak> jrib, what do you mean? as in not unity?
[10:57] <riktking> GreekFreak: crunchbang minght be an option
[10:57] <jrib> GreekFreak: yeah
[10:57] <riktking> might
[10:58] <GreekFreak> riktking, thanks. Is crunchbang the recommended one or is that your preference?
[10:58] <daniel_> yandex38, I checked pulse audio settings ..nothing worked
[10:58] <GreekFreak> jrib, I assume I'll still be able to run applications like chrome?
[10:59] <riktking> GreekFreak: i haev used it before, it is a very light weight desktop environment. might be a decent option for you.
[10:59] <jrib> GreekFreak: of course
[10:59] <riktking> GreekFreak: lxde, xfce
[11:00] <GreekFreak> riktking, thanks.
[11:00] <riktking> GreekFreak: good luck!
[11:00] <Guest16612> people I don't hear any CCW?
[11:00] <GreekFreak> riktking, oh so that's the difference between ubuntu, lubuntu and xubuntu? Thanks. it makes sense now
[11:00] <GreekFreak> jrib, thanks
[11:01] <ultrixx> hi
[11:01] <riktking> GreekFreak: learn the phrase KISS - it wil help with ALOT of linux experience ;-)
[11:02] <Guest16612> hello ultrixx
[11:03] <Guest16612> ultrixx, you're here for a long time?
[11:04] <cypher-neo> GreekFreak, One point to remember. Most Linux distro's come with Live mode, so you can preview them before installing and see if Chromium or other programs work okay.
[11:04] <ultrixx> Guest16612: not usre
[11:04] <ultrixx> sure
[11:05] <Guest16612> well, to be honest?
[11:05] <Guest16612> ultrixx, you're where you?
[11:06] <GreekFreak> riktking, haha
[11:06] <GreekFreak> cypher-neo, thank you. I'll keep that in mind
[11:06] <Guest16612> Very funny
[11:07] <GreekFreak> I assume if I change the desktop environment that the ubuntu updates, etc will still work as normal?
[11:07] <ania__> GreekFreak: yes
[11:07] <Guest16612> for sure:)
[11:07] <GreekFreak> ania__, thank you.
[11:07] <ania__> but it will update both : gnome kde itd.......
[11:08] <ania__> so it could download more updates take more space
[11:08] <ania__> not relevant if you have disck space
[11:08] <Guest16612> you pay about what say?
[11:08] <GreekFreak> ania__, can I disable Unity (Gnome) and only have the one I want (e.g. crunchbang or lxde)?
[11:09] <lycosa> hi i'm running 12.04 LTS on a notebook and i noticed an abnormal speed of fans, is it possible to regulate the speed :) thank you
[11:09] <cypher-neo> GreekFreak, You can... but it can be complicated getting all the dependancies to balance.
[11:09] <jrib> GreekFreak: if you install multiple environments, you can choose between them at the login screen
[11:09] <ania__> GreekFreak: you can uninstall unity.....and leave just lxda.....or what ever you want....to unistall check google
[11:09] <Guest16612> You deaf?
[11:09] <lycosa> the noise is annoying...
[11:10] <ania__> deaf
[11:10] <Guest16612> thought I talk with myself
[11:10] <GreekFreak> thanks guys. I'll start with having both for now (for peace of mind).
[11:11] <cypher-neo> GreekFreak, Uninstalling Unity is complicated, but it regarded half the files on the computer as a dependencies. If you're that desperate to get rid of Unity, it's usually far easier to find an Ubuntu disk image that uses the desktop you prefer and (after backing up your files) reformat using that image.
[11:11] <Guest16612> all go to sleep: D
[11:11] <ania__> GreekFreak: yes leave it....it wont make it slower....
[11:11] <cypher-neo> Guest16612, What can I help you with?
[11:12] <lycosa> i tried other distro but same problem :/
[11:12] <GreekFreak> cypher-neo, makes sense.
[11:12] <GreekFreak> ania__, sounds like a plan. lol
[11:12] <Guest16612> No thank you!
[11:14] <ania__> GreekFreak: you better check CAIRO DOCK that really good desktop enviro...
[11:14] <ania__> like apple
[11:14] <mpulis> guys, i am having problems with my ubuntu. my network card disappeared. lspci doesnt mention it. eth0 is invalid. laptop is lenovo 3000 n200 - seems to be a broadcom chip
[11:14] <curiousx> ye, and AWN (Avant Windows Navigator) :D
[11:15] <cypher-neo> I love AWN!
[11:15] <curiousx> me too
[11:15] <curiousx> AWN Lucido
[11:15] <GreekFreak> ania__, will do
[11:16] <cypher-neo> curiousx, Yes! Yes!
[11:16] <seigneurfuo> hello
[11:17] <cypher-neo> curiousx, Lucido is sweet, especially when you use the expander to push the icons around.
[11:17] <jrib> anyone know of a program to banish the cursor automatically after the cursor has not moved for some configurable amount of time?  (I do not want unclutter as that hides the cursor.  I want to simply have the cursor move to the corner of the active window)
[11:17] <seigneurfuo> hello
[11:17] <seigneurfuo> guy
[11:18] <GreekFreak> ania__, CAIR DOCK looks pretty cool for my desktop (i7-950 with 6gb RAM). But it looks too resource hungry for the laptop (yes, I'm guessing here)
[11:18] <zhanshime-1> mpulis: i have the same problem sometimes,reboot may solve it
[11:18] <curiousx> cypher-neo: ye, it is :) here mah Lucido: http://i.imgur.com/TSlHv.jpg
[11:18] <Eagleman> After an init 6 my ubuntu system isnt starting properly anymore......
[11:18] <Eagleman> starting configure virtual network devices FAILED
[11:19] <Eagleman> and before that i had an pch poisen interrupt
[11:19] <cypher-neo> curiousx, Very nice! Let me show you mine.
[11:20] <cypher-neo> curiousx, http://fav.me/d51nfmm I took this screenshot yesterday.
[11:22] <curiousx> cypher-neo: http://i.imgur.com/Y7b1W.png  http://paste.ubuntu.com/818362/
[11:22] <mpulis> zhanshime-1, did that but no luck. the led's green and orange are switched on
[11:23] <mpulis> zhanshime-1,  im gonna try loading a live cd - see if it fixes
[11:23] <cypher-neo> Chuck_Norris, I like that last one!
[11:24] <Chuck_Norris> ty
[11:25] <a7471> Hello everyone
[11:25] <a7471> can somebody help me?
[11:25] <susundberg> !ask
[11:25] <Chuck_Norris> !someone | a7471
[11:25] <a7471> whats the best program on ubuntu equivalent to paint on windows?
[11:26] <cypher-neo> Chuck_Norris, What menu is that you're using in http://i.imgur.com/PnEup.png
[11:26] <zhanshime-1> mpulis:OK
[11:26] <cypher-neo> Chuck_Norris, Is that Cinnamon?
[11:26] <a7471> I have a very basic ubuntu
[11:26] <a7471> its at my school
[11:26] <a7471> it sucks tbh
[11:26] <FloodBot1> a7471: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:27] <TBarth> a7471, gimp ?
[11:27] <a7471> yer but it aint the same,gimp is more for animation
[11:27] <susundberg> a7471, TBarth : gimp is quite much more than pain, maybe tuxpaint? "tuxpaint - A paint program for young children
[11:27] <riktking> a7471: there is gnu paint i think
[11:27] <susundberg> "
[11:27] <riktking> a7471: tux paint thats the onw
[11:27] <a7471> i aint a young kid mate
[11:27] <susundberg> "gpaint - GNU Paint - a small, easy to use paint program for GNOME
[11:28] <Chuck_Norris> cypher-neo: that was LMGE (Linux Mint Gnome Extension) and a shell theme
[11:28] <ye> Hi guys!  :)
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> a7471  offtopic: http://partimus.org/
[11:29] <susundberg> tuxpaint seems quite fun, suitable for ppl in all ages: http://tuxpaint.org/screenshots/ :)
[11:29] <cypher-neo> Chuck_Norris, Do you know if that extension still works on GNOME3.4? A lot of common extensions got borked in the update.
[11:29] <a7471> imnot sure if i can download because at school
[11:29] <Chuck_Norris> and the extencion bottom panel, but LMGE is not compatible with gnome 3.4
[11:29] <TBarth> tuxpaint lol
[11:29] <a7471> is anyone from portugal in here?
[11:29] <cypher-neo> tuxpaint lol
[11:30] <Chuck_Norris> nop i tryed but there is another extension that can do that i'll show ya in a moment
[11:30] <cypher-neo> GIMP is suitable for people of all ages too. Your actual results may vary though. lol
[11:30] <ye> Hello,  I am installing Ubuntu 12.04 in /dev/sda10,  and I have 10.04 in /dev/sda8
[11:30] <lewis1711> does anyone know what package will give me the header mpi.h? I thought for sure libopenmpi-dev would be it..
[11:30] <ye> Now it occurs: Failed to umount partitions
[11:31] <Chuck_Norris> cypher-neo: http://i.imgur.com/pNJMz.jpg
[11:31] <ye> migration-assistant needs to mount a partition, but cannot umount /dev/sda8
[11:31] <Chuck_Norris> i'll tell ya the extension name, give me a second
[11:32] <ye> I didn't mount /dev/sda8
[11:32] <Guest14084> is there a way to check for drivers without jockey-gtk or jockey-text? Mine crashes while starting up.
[11:32] <cypher-neo> Chuck_Norris, Nice screenshot. I've had issues with Ubuntu GNOME3 recently. Lots of extensions are not working, even those in the gnome-extensions-common package.
[11:33] <susundberg> ye: can you mount them by hand ? i dont quite get where the error appeared, during the instal?
[11:33] <cypher-neo> Chuck_Norris, I couldn't get half of the common extensions to run on 3.4!
[11:33] <Eagleman> How could my interfaces file be deformed after an init 6? it contained alot of weird characters when i edited it
[11:33] <ye> cypher-neo: when importing documents and settings...
[11:34] <ye> cypher-neo: and if i umount /dev/sda8, it will crash
[11:35] <Chuck_Norris> cypher-neo: you have to go at: https://extensions.gnome.org/
[11:36] <Chuck_Norris> cypher-neo: this is the extension for setting up the panel: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/208/panel-settings/
[11:36] <TBarth> Chuck_Norris, how do you get the news on your desktop?
[11:37] <Guest14084> chuck_norris does not need to install ubuntu, ubuntu installs itself in his presence
[11:37] <Chuck_Norris> you can TBarth i alredy did a tutorial in http://ubuntuforums.org  section "Tips and Tuorial" but i can't see it, if you want i can give the post in forum format so you can see and mah post :)
[11:37] <Chuck_Norris> TBarth: let me paste it
[11:38] <Chuck_Norris> this is the post in forum format =P: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014592/
[11:39] <cypher-neo> Chuck_Norris, Oh! So don't install the extensions from the repositories? Just do it one by one from extensions.gnome.org?
[11:39] <terminhell> ello ello
[11:39] <Eagleman> How could my interfaces file be deformed after an init 6? it contained alot of weird characters when i edited it
[11:40] <Chuck_Norris> cypher-neo: i have some PPA for that, i have webupd8 PPA and i pick up some from the ofcial webpage
[11:42] <cypher-neo> Chuck_Norris, I guess I just didn't look hard enough. ;p
[11:42] <Chuck_Norris> ye, i can tell xD
[11:42] <RNAndyB> Im trying to build gcc 4.7.0 on ubuntu 12.04, configures fine but I keep getting the following error on make http://pastebin.com/mkfHdjyB, Could anyone offer some advice please?
[11:44] <Take^> Hello
[11:44] <ogra_> RNAndyB, why dont you just use the binary from quantal ?
[11:44] <nyuszika7h> Is it possible to make Nautilus recognize my Oracle Java 7 install?
[11:44] <ogra_> (including the toolchain)
[11:44] <Take^> I'm building an custom upstart job, which needs to have input from the user
[11:45] <RNAndyB> ogra_, I am trying to build it as a cross compiler for another target
[11:45] <TBarth> nyuszika7h, already installed the java alternatives?
[11:45] <nyuszika7h> TBarth: Yes
[11:45] <Take^> I've tried the option 'console owner', but that doesn't really fit, since atleast when I run 'sudo start foo' I get the dialog output from the script, but I can't type anything to the script
[11:45] <ogra_> RNAndyB, what target ? we also have cross compiler packages, but only build them for arm targets atm
[11:45] <nyuszika7h> It asks me to install OpenJDK if I want to open a jar file from Nautilus (though it works fine from the terminal)
[11:45] <TBarth> nyuszika7h, and java -version shows your oracle version?
[11:45] <nyuszika7h> Yes
[11:46] <RNAndyB> ogra_, i386-elf but the target must be i386-jos-elf for an OS course I am following.
[11:47] <ogra_> RNAndyB, ah, well, then good luck, bootstrapping a compiler and toolchain isnt really a beginner task
[11:48] <TBarth> nyuszika7h, I can open jar file with nautilus, and I only have oracle java installed.
[11:48] <nyuszika7h> TBarth: It doesn't offer that as an option in "Open With"
[11:48] <orated> Hello! How can I start back a process which was accidentally killed?
[11:48] <nyuszika7h> orated: Which process?
[11:49] <orated> nyuszika7h: plasma-desktop
[11:49] <RNAndyB> ogra_, I wouldnt consider myself a beginner. I have completed this task before but I have done a fresh reinstall of ubuntu and now this time around it wont build
[11:50] <nyuszika7h> orated: Unless you remember which user it ran as and the command-line switches, I don't know
[11:50] <cypher-neo> Chuck_Norris, Is this the PPA you used? http://goo.gl/X4Dyp
[11:50] <TorbenBeta> How can I display characters like: "€" or "ĝ" in the CLI (Bash)?
[11:50] <ogra_> RNAndyB, well, i'm not a compiler guy, i only use them ... what you are seeing might be related to multiarch though, not sure
[11:50] <nyuszika7h> TorbenBeta: With echo?
[11:51] <RNAndyB> ogra_, ok, thank you for your time
[11:51] <Chuck_Norris> cypher-neo: ye, and i'll show ya one more thing
[11:52] <cypher-neo> Chuck_Norris, That would be the one PPA I missed. I'll have to go back and try again. :)
[11:52] <jacks> Hi guys!  I have a stupid question. Why I cannot find /boot/grub/menu.lst by default in Ubuntu?
[11:52] <Chuck_Norris> is about the Depin distro, that have some cool extensions
[11:52] <Anom> If I'm sending mail via a contact form and theres no log of it in my mail.log, where's the next place to check? (I can't see anything in php.log either)
[11:52] <mcb_1> TorbenBeta: Use ALT GR+E for €. In my terminal it worked.
[11:52] <TorbenBeta> nyuszika7h, I mean in general. For example: I want to edit a document using "editor"
[11:53] <ogra_> RNAndyB, sadly all our compiler specialists are at linaro-connect in hongkong atm, but you could try to catch hrw or doko in #linaro, they are experts and might be able to help
[11:53] <TorbenBeta> mcb_1, I mean on another workstation without X. Like tty6, if you understand me.
[11:54] <TorbenBeta> nyuszika7h, and instead of € it shows a grey box.
[11:54] <Chuck_Norris> cypher-neo: https://github.com/manateelazycat/DGSE
[11:55] <Chuck_Norris> sry link dead serching again
[11:55] <mcb_1> TorbenBeta: As i said it works here, with or withou X11.
[11:55] <cypher-neo> Chuck_Norris, That page 404'd on me.
[11:55] <cypher-neo> Chuck_Norris, Very funny 404 picture though!
[11:55] <Chuck_Norris> i have the extension in mah ubuntone folder but... in order to be transparent i wanna to send ya to the github webpage
[11:56] <RNAndyB> ogra_, Great, thank you very much!
[11:56] <TorbenBeta> mcb_1, strangely enough it works if I start a terminal, but if I change my workstation (tty1-6) it won't display.
[11:56] <cypher-neo> Chuck_Norris, It's okay. I know who to find later once I get the initial extensions working.
[11:57] <cypher-neo> Chuck_Norris, Let me work on just getting GNOME3.4 to accept and use extensions. lol
[11:57] <Chuck_Norris> xD ok
[11:57] <cypher-neo> Chuck_Norris, I will definitely come hunt you down on IRC later and ask you questions if I have any issues. :)
[11:59] <Chuck_Norris> cypher-neo: np
[11:59] <orated> What does $PATH means? What does its output /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games means?
[11:59] <TBarth> Chuck_Norris, which web technologie is used to display the grafic in your 404 page?
[12:01] <Chuck_Norris> but idk but, i can't find the Deepin's extension on github but here is mah link in ubuntuone: http://ubuntuone.com/5hccMzBg44XfC3i8PPQdcL
[12:01] <silv3r_m00n> after I upgraded to 12.04 , everytime ubuntu starts , a nautilus window opens up , why ?
[12:01] <silv3r_m00n> I don't need that window
[12:01] <Chuck_Norris> TBarth: noone only mah firefox web browser
[12:02] <mcb_1> TorbenBeta: Strange indeed, I can switch terminals and I have no problem here. Maybe you should check your keyboard setings......
[12:03] <m4rtijn> hi
[12:04] <m4rtijn> does anyone know where i can find a logfile from an USB connected at a terminal server client??
[12:04] <m4rtijn> kvm
[12:04] <wawowe> orated: it's that path of executables in your shell
[12:06] <Deathslycer> Hi?
[12:07] <Deathslycer> anyone there?
[12:07] <DeltaHeavy> Is shutting down/restarting your computer using "init" bad for any reason?
[12:07] <Sidewinder> 1663
[12:07] <Deathslycer> i need help with my graphic card
[12:07] <wawowe> DeltaHeavy: no
[12:07] <Deathslycer> When i boot up and i use adm saphhire HD6750
[12:07] <Deathslycer> It says start in low graphic mode
[12:07] <DeltaHeavy> wawowe: THanks
[12:07] <wawowe> Deathslycer: what's the issue?
[12:08] <Deathslycer> When i start with linux
[12:08] <Deathslycer> Wait
[12:08] <Deathslycer> okey when i have my VGA in my graphic card entrance and i boot it says start in low graphic mode
[12:08] <Deathslycer> But when i switch it to onboard its normal
[12:08] <Deathslycer> I cant use my 2 gigs of grapphic card
[12:09] <DeltaHeavy> Deathslycer: ATI cards aren't supported nearly as well for Linux compared to NVidea card. I avoid ATI like nuts for any computer that might be running Linux.
[12:09] <Deathslycer> The problem is i cant install windows anymore,And if i use wine?
[12:09] <DeltaHeavy> Deathslycer: Are there any Linux drivers for this card on the ATI website.
[12:09] <Deathslycer> bootmgr is missing
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> Deathslycer:  you did install the ati drivers for your card?
[12:09] <DeltaHeavy> Deathslycer: Why can't you install Windows anymore?
[12:10] <Deathslycer> Yes i isntalledi the druiverst stil gives me the same error
[12:10] <Deathslycer> drivers
[12:10] <DeltaHeavy> Deathslycer: You can use GRUB to boot Windows instead of bootmgr
[12:10] <Deathslycer> How?
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> Most windows pcs come with a tool to make a restore cd set. or grub often finds and makes an entry for the windows 'rescue/recovery' partition.
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> Grub shows that partion on all my windows machines
[12:10] <wawowe> Deathslycer: install the ati drivers: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[12:10] <Deathslycer> ill try
[12:11] <Deathslycer> Thanks
[12:11] <Deathslycer> if it works
[12:11] <Pierreb> i just installed ubuntu and it looked fine, after booting it show the loading screen with the 4 dots but then it show a grey screen and nothing is happening
[12:11] <Deathslycer> Still thanks for the support
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> Pierreb:  what video card?
[12:11] <Pierreb> nvidia 420
[12:11] <Pierreb> should i have skipped the install 3rd party software?
[12:12] <wawowe> Pierreb: hit esc while it's booting
[12:12] <Deathslycer> Lets try it out :d
[12:12] <Pierreb> wawowe: that show details?
[12:12] <cellfun> hello!
[12:12] <wawowe> Pierreb: yeah, can help you figure out what's going wrong
[12:13] <Chuck_Norris> Pierreb: good idea, that way you will use "nouveau" intead of the priopretary driver, but with nouveau you can not play 3D games like Urban Terror =(
[12:13] <cellfun> I am trying to sed this rss from my terminal, but it shows 10 lines , I only need 5 of them, any suggestions ? the top 5 . wget -q -O - http://www.makeuseof.com/service/linux/feed | sed -n '1,/<title>/d; s/.*<title>\(.*\)<\/title>.*/\1/p
[12:13] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: I suggest you remove that driver and install the proprietary one that can be found on NVidea's website.
[12:13] <cellfun> I am trying to sed this rss from my terminal, but it shows 10 lines , I only need 5 of them, any suggestions ? the top 5 . wget -q -O - http://www.makeuseof.com/service/linux/feed | sed -n '1,/<title>/d; s/.*<title>\(.*\)<\/title>.*/\1/p'
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> Pierreb:  try the nomodeset option, and install the nvidia drivers if you get to teh desktop.
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> You want to try the drivers fromt eh repos first. not the ones from the nvidia web site.
[12:14] <Deathslycer> thanks
[12:14] <Deathslycer> It worked
[12:14] <Pici> cellfun: head -n5
[12:14] <Pierreb> Problem is i dont get to desktop :-/
[12:14] <DeltaHeavy> cellfun: Please don't spam you're question. If I"m understanding your question just pipe STDOUT through 'head -5'
[12:14] <Pierreb> will recovery mode help?
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | Pierreb
[12:15] <cellfun> DeltaHeavy, I am sorry :(
[12:15] <Chuck_Norris> if Pierreb mark the 3 part sofware, he alredy have nvidia propietraty driver using it
[12:15] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: cellfun: Don't worry about it, just don't do it again. Repost maybe every 15 minutes or so, IRC isn't as much of a "chatty" protocol as many would believe.
[12:15] <DeltaHeavy> Wow sorry I messed up that name addressing buisness @_@
[12:15] <DeltaHeavy> Tired
[12:16] <cellfun> DeltaHeavy, it wont happen again
[12:16]  * cellfun thinks he should use pastebin from now on :D
[12:16] <DeltaHeavy> cellfun: Now you're getting it~
[12:17] <Chuck_Norris> Pierreb: you can see the logins screen?
[12:17] <Chuck_Norris> can you*...?
[12:18] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: Try pressing "Ctrl + Alt + F1" to get to the CLI. Press "Ctrl + Alt + F7" to return to the GUI.
[12:18] <Deathslycer> Does anyone has knoledge about lampp
[12:18] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: From there you can log in and operating your computer from the command prompt.
[12:18] <DeltaHeavy> Deathslycer: I do
[12:18] <Deathslycer> Good :d
[12:18] <Deathslycer> Okey it says mysql missing
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> !lamp
[12:18] <Chuck_Norris> ye, that what i going to write him Ctrl + Alt + Fx
[12:18] <Deathslycer> I know i use it :D
[12:18] <Deathslycer> But it gives this error
[12:18] <Deathslycer> MYSQL is missing
[12:19] <Deathslycer> to be precise
[12:19] <DeltaHeavy> Deathslycer: What happens when you execute "sudo which mysql"?
[12:19] <Deathslycer> Starting XAMPP for Linux 1.7.7...
[12:19] <Deathslycer> XAMPP: Starting Apache with SSL (and PHP5)...
[12:19] <Deathslycer> XAMPP: Starting MySQL...
[12:19] <Deathslycer> XAMPP: Couldn't start MySQL!
[12:19] <Deathslycer> XAMPP: Starting ProFTPD...
[12:19] <Deathslycer> XAMPP for Linux started.
[12:19] <Deathslycer> jeroen@jeroen-Vostro-420-Series:~$ ^C
[12:19] <FloodBot1> Deathslycer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:19] <Deathslycer> jeroen@jeroen-Vostro-420-Series:~$
[12:19] <Pierreb> Chuck_Norris: i can see the loading screen, i tried hitting escape then some text flashed on the screen then it "loaded" the gfx driver and went "black"
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> !xamp
[12:20] <DeltaHeavy> Deathslycer: Oh you're using XAMPP, I hate that thing lol, I have issues like that too and end up just messing around to get things to work. Have you considered installing each package individually and not using XAMPP?
[12:20] <Deathslycer> How?
[12:20] <Chuck_Norris> ok, when you are in the login screen type: "Ctrl + Alt + F3"   log in and type: lsmod | grep nouveau
[12:20] <Deathslycer> I only need the mysql package
[12:20] <Chuck_Norris> and tell as if you see something
[12:20] <DeltaHeavy> Deathslycer: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server mysql-client
[12:20] <DeltaHeavy> Deathslycer: Those names might be wrong, it was a best effort but you get the idea right?
[12:20] <Pierreb> Chuck_Norris: i never get to the login screen
[12:21] <Chuck_Norris> oh! sry
[12:21] <DeltaHeavy> Deathslycer: From there your server root will be '/var/www/'
[12:21] <Deathslycer> Yes
[12:21] <Chuck_Norris> so, try like you wrote with the rescue option
[12:21] <Deathslycer> Is hosted xampp on windows but im new to xampp on linux for the rest im quite good in figuring out.
[12:22] <DeltaHeavy> Deathslycer: This is a "REAL" LAMPP server, where XAMPP is more of a simulation. Great if not better for developing in certain respects, but nobody uses XAMPP for production.
[12:22] <Deathslycer> New error i think this one this good  XAMPP: Another MySQL daemon is already running.
[12:23] <ikonia> Deathslycer: why are you using xampp on linux
[12:23] <Deathslycer> I use it and it works on my mini laptop
[12:23] <DeltaHeavy> Deathslycer: TO make things easier on you just fully remove XAMPP to avoid such things.
[12:23] <ikonia> Deathslycer: lamp is more apporpriate for linux as you don't need the self contained environment of xammp
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> lamp can work just as well
[12:23] <Deathslycer> Well im using it becouse my windows broke and i cant recover i installed linux using a net boot command list
[12:23] <Deathslycer> I will use lampp
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> since xampp is not supported by this channel... good idea
[12:24] <Chuck_Norris> Pierreb: could be the bugy version of the nvidia 295.40 (already confirmed by Nvidia)
[12:24] <Pierreb> Chuck_Norris: so im at the recovery mode, what should i do then?
[12:24] <DeltaHeavy> Deathslycer: You'll learn a lot more this way as it's not some simulated enviroment. I had to use XAMPP for a course once and hated every moment of it lol. Was nice I could just bring around my whole production enviroment on a USB though. I'd say that's it's only advantage.
[12:25] <Chuck_Norris> if it is, may or ma not be solved by using a PPA and install 295.53
[12:25] <Chuck_Norris> Pierreb: aptitude search nvidia-current
[12:25] <Chuck_Norris> tell us if is installed
[12:25] <Pierreb> so choose root option?
[12:26] <Deathslycer> Damn i know why i dint extract it i moved it stopid me -.- XD
[12:26] <Chuck_Norris> ye
[12:26] <DeltaHeavy> Chuck_Norris: Does that deal with the propriety driver or the open source GNU one?
[12:27] <Pierreb> aptitude not installed, ill check with apt-get?
[12:27] <Chuck_Norris> Pierreb: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[12:28] <DeltaHeavy> Chuck_Norris: Did you see my message above? If it's the open source GNU driver I highly advise against getting it.
[12:28] <Chuck_Norris> ye i saw
[12:29] <Chuck_Norris> but you don't have problems, so i dont chat with you :D
[12:29] <Chuck_Norris> IRC is not a caht room :D
[12:29] <Vinnie_win> Fresh Ubuntu, I'm trying to build an applicationl. I added g++ compiler, and now I get a missing include "Xlib.h", how do I get that?
[12:30] <Chuck_Norris> i meant a solcial chat room xD
[12:30] <DeltaHeavy> Chuck_Norris: I'm trying to help Deathslycer though. I don't know why you'd suggest the open driver over the proprietary one.
[12:30] <DeltaHeavy> IMO we should just link him the propriery driver to grab with 'wget' and have him install it.
[12:31] <Pierreb> Chuck_Norris: that failed, w: not using locking for read only lock file blablabal
[12:31] <newlou-os> can wordpress be loaded in Zorin?
[12:31] <Pierreb> either way, would a reinstall without the 3rd party drivers work?
[12:31] <Vinnie_win> How do I get xfree86-devel ?
[12:31] <Chuck_Norris> Pierreb: what command gives you that outputs?
[12:31] <Pierreb> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[12:32] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: IMO, don't bother getting the free driver. Push Ubuntu into CLI mode and download the proprietary driver. If you tell me what card it is I can get you the link and you can download it directly from the command prompt
[12:32] <Pierreb> DeltaHeavy: nvidia 420 gts
[12:32] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: It's always better getting drivers made by the people who made the hardware than some reversed engineered garbage.
[12:32] <Chuck_Norris> ye, that will solve, becouse that way you will use nouveau, but, you can not play 3D games like Urban Terror with nouveau
[12:32] <Pierreb> yeah i need the nvidia driver cause xbmc wont work with the open source one
[12:32] <Chuck_Norris> solve it
[12:33] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: On your Ubuntu box, Press Ctrl + Alt + F1
[12:33] <Pierreb> tried it on fedora and the screen flickered like crazy
[12:33] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: Oh yeah Fedora HATES graphical drivers, just kills everything lol
[12:33] <Pierreb> DeltaHeavy: yeah why i went for ubuntu :)
[12:33] <Pierreb> couldnt figure out how to get the drivers to work
[12:33] <Chuck_Norris> so, once you have the desktop, you can add the x-swat PPA and install 295.53 nvidia driver version
[12:33] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: You running 32-bit?
[12:34] <Pierreb> 64-bit
[12:34] <Pierreb> but either way i cant get to the desktop
[12:34] <Chuck_Norris> or the Upubuntu PPA (i know, Do not recomend unoficial PPA)
[12:34] <Pierreb> so should i reinstall and then later install the nvidia drivers?
[12:34] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: Press Ctrl + Alt + F1
[12:34] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: From anywhere, should just kill the GUI
[12:34] <Vinnie_win> What package do I install to get freetype.h
[12:34] <Pierreb> i did and im at a cli in recovery mode
[12:35] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: Now run 'wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/295.53/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.53.run'
[12:35] <Chuck_Norris> Pierreb: paste:  lsmod | grep nvidia
[12:35] <Pierreb> yay for short stuff
[12:36] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: Let me just find out how to turn off XORG these days. I think it's changed
[12:36] <Pierreb> Chuck_Norris: it says 12319264     0
[12:37] <Chuck_Norris> Pierreb: do not say "nvidia" anywhere?
[12:37] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: From the CLI menu execute 'sudo service stop lightdm'
[12:37] <intore> good afternoon. i have a problem, i installed and configures pam_mount on ubuntu 11.04. it runs logging by shell but at boot time it stops on the start screen "ubuntu" and it doesn't nothing. please, could you help me please?
[12:37] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: Then just run that script you downloaded with 'wget' by running './<script name>'. Remember you can use 'Tab' for auto-complete.
[12:37] <Pierreb> Chuck_Norris: nope
[12:38] <Chuck_Norris> Pierreb: paste:  lsmod | grep nouveau
[12:38] <dwarder> is it possible to see in realtime what's happening in other users cli?
[12:38] <sirknight> i have a flash drive that is mostly hidden.. i can still get to it with yumi but i want it to boot my linux off there so i can repair my pc
[12:38] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: From there you'll be guided through a setup and it should remove any other drivers while it's at it. When you'ore done just execute 'sudo service lightdm start'
[12:38] <Chuck_Norris> maybe becouse you are in the CLI thats the reason why you do not have the module load -.-
[12:38] <sirknight> how do i get the flash drive to show up?
[12:38] <Chuck_Norris> xD
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> dwarder:  witht he right setup - yes.. easy way . get with the user and set up screen or byobu so you can 'share'  the cli
[12:39] <Pierreb> DeltaHeavy: kk trying to type the url, Chuck_Norris: no output from that one
[12:39] <DeltaHeavy> Chuck_Norris: The GUI is still running until he runs 'sudo service lightdm stop'.
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> sirknight:  'mostly' hidden meaning what exactly?
[12:39] <DeltaHeavy> Chuck_Norris: The GUI runs on tty7 while CLIs run on tty1-6
[12:40] <ironhalik> you can just sudo kill lightdm, it will kill xorg and stuff
[12:41] <tomas__> im new here :-)
[12:41] <Sidewinder> tomas__, Welcome! :-)
[12:42] <Vinnie_win> how do I get the alsa lib/headers to compile?
[12:42] <sirknight> Dr_Willis,  theres only a a muilti-boot win app i can use,, the computer cant see the flash drive
[12:42] <Chuck_Norris> ok, well download an run the nvidia driver but first: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current
[12:43] <sirknight> Dr_Willis,  with linux how to i see is the drive is there?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> sirknight:  depending on how you put the disrto on the flash drive. there may not be any free space to use.
[12:43] <DeltaHeavy> sirknight: If it's mounted you can just use the 'mount' command. Otherwise you can find it in the '/dev/' directory.
[12:43] <Pierreb> so network is down
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> sirknight:  check with the sudo blkid command to see if the device is seen
[12:43] <Chuck_Norris> then it will pup up a ncurses interface and you can move around with <tab>
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> imageing an iso file straight to a flash drive can cause.. strangeness
[12:44] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: Did you try downloading it after you turned off your GUI (XORG)?
[12:44] <__gilles> hi
[12:44] <Pierreb> DeltaHeavy: i never turned it off, i booted into secure-mode and choose root
[12:44] <Pierreb> DeltaHeavy: trying to figure out how to start the network in ubuntu (used to oel/redhat)
[12:44] <__gilles> i installed ubuntu 12.04, i then installed the 'tritium' window manager
[12:45] <__gilles> however i don't see a way to select it on gdm
[12:45] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: For some god awful reason "NetworkManager" is a GUI only tool and is what is often required to maintain an internet connection when it's already configured. Try starting the NetworkManager service, or boot into a normal mode and just get into the CLI (I know the GUI hangs) with Ctrl + Alt + F1
[12:45] <intore> no ideas?
[12:45] <__gilles> how do you change the window manager for a specific user
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> __gilles:  make a proper session .desktop file for it to launch whatever commands you need to run
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> __gilles:  look at the ubuntu.desktop file as an example
[12:46] <sirknight> Dr_Willis, DeltaHeavy ,  http://pastebin.com/ei8agkpP
[12:46] <__gilles> ok thanks !
[12:46] <jrib> __gilles: or just have the user choose the window manager he wants at the login screen
[12:46] <Pierreb> guys ill try to reinstall the machine and skip 3rd party software
[12:46] <__gilles> jrib: that's what i wanted
[12:46] <Pierreb> ones i get in ill try to install the damn nvidia drivers
[12:46] <__gilles> but it does not appear in the list after being installed from packages
[12:47] <jrib> __gilles: what window manager?
[12:47] <sirknight> Dr_Willis, DeltaHeavy ,  im looking for the 32 gb flash drive , not the 1.5 tb  drive
[12:47] <__gilles> i'll try the .desktop way and see how it goes
[12:47] <__gilles> jrib: tritum
[12:47] <gvo> I am trying to generate a bootable linux system on a USB hard drive. So I plugged in the Ubuntu 12.04 alternative CD ( the normal one panics on boot), pointed the partitioner/installer to the /dev/sdb drive and it seemed to run OK.  When it asked if I wanted to put grub on the MBR of my hard drive, I replied no so it asked where I wanted it.  I replied /dev/sdb.  I saw the hd light flicker...
[12:47] <gvo> ...so assumed it worked.  It didn't on boot I get Error file not found and a grub rescue  prompt
[12:47] <jrib> __gilles: I see no tritum package
[12:47] <DeltaHeavy> sirknight: execute the following to get to your flashdrive 'sudo -i && mkdir /media/flashdrive/ && mount /dev/sdf1 /media/flashdrive/ && cd /media/flashdrive/ && logout'
[12:48] <Chuck_Norris> Pierreb: maybe the service "NetworkManager" is not runing on the rescue mode: sudo service network-manager start   may do the job
[12:49] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: You don't have to do a full reinstall, I'm pretty certain yuo just need to do what I said.
[12:49] <Eagleman> wich 1 is safer? Squirrelmail or OpenWebMail ot something else?
[12:49] <sirknight> ok
[12:50] <t432> Any experts on eclipse/tomcat setup here
[12:50] <jrib> __gilles: i'm guessing you mean "tritium".  The package itself has a .desktop file.  Did you check if it got placed somewhere?
[12:50] <t432> ?
[12:50] <__gilles> jre
[12:50] <__gilles> re
[12:50] <sirknight> DeltaHeavy,  i am not very good at command line but i know a few  things...    i just got a >
[12:50] <__gilles> jrib: dunno, but i wrote a .desktop file and it works
[12:50] <t432> having trouble running tomcat throught eclipse- "Cannot create a server using the selected type"
[12:50] <t432> through*
[12:50] <__gilles> thanks !
[12:51] <jrib> __gilles: you should file a bug if the package isn't properly installing one
[12:51] <DeltaHeavy> sirknight: You probably typed a quote. I just had those there to signify that everything between it was the command
[12:51] <DeltaHeavy> sirknight: and actually execute the following
[12:52] <sirknight> DeltaHeavy,  ok
[12:52] <ultrixx> Eagleman: opensmtpd  http://www.opensmtpd.org
[12:52] <nyuszika7h> Is there something for forcibly (SIGKILL) killing applications with a crosshair-like cursor?
[12:52] <DeltaHeavy> sudo mkdir /media/flashdrive/ && sudo /dev/sdf1 /media/flashdrive/ && sudo nautilus /media/flashdrive/
[12:52] <gvo> How do I create a bootable USB harddrive (not flash)?
[12:52] <nyuszika7h> I accidentally triggered a similiar thing with some key sequence once, I think, but no idea what did I press.
[12:53] <ultrixx> gvo: you don't "create" it. make sure that your bios settings allow boot from usb harddrive
[12:53] <gvo> It does
[12:53] <zykotick9> DeltaHeavy: "sudo /dev/sdf1 /media/flashdrive/" your missing something here
[12:53] <sirknight> DeltaHeavy, sudo: /dev/sdf1: command not found
[12:53] <gvo> ultrixx And it boots but gets file not found
[12:53] <faber1988> ciao
[12:54] <faber1988> list
[12:54] <ultrixx> gvo: ok, then you have no bootloader installed on your usb hd
[12:54] <DeltaHeavy> sudo mkdir /media/flashdrive/ && sudo mount /dev/sdf1  /media/flashdrive/ && sudo nautilus /media/flashdrive/
[12:54] <DeltaHeavy> Sorry I derped
[12:54] <gvo> ultrixx: I plugged in the Ubuntu 12.04 alternative CD ( the normal one panics on boot), pointed the partitioner/installer to the /dev/sdb drive and it seemed to run OK. When it asked if I wanted to put grub on the MBR of my hard drive, I replied no so it asked where I wanted it. I replied /dev/sdb. I saw the hd light flicker so assumed it worked. It didn't; on boot I get Error: file not...
[12:54] <gvo> ...found and a grub rescue prompt.
[12:54] <sirknight> derped means?
[12:54] <DeltaHeavy> sirknight: Messed up, I didn't put 'mount' in there.
[12:55] <Chuck_Norris> Pierreb: i forget, if you just uninstall the nvidia driver with: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current   then you will automatically boot with nouveau =P
[12:55] <ultrixx> gvo: have you got any idea why the normal cd panics on your system?
[12:55] <gvo> ultrixx:  I think it has to do with a b43 driver.
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> gvo:  you didend say 'sdb1' by mistake did you
[12:56] <gvo> ultrixx: I've seen bugs/comments about later kernels having problems.
[12:56] <sirknight> transcend 32 gb flash drive    i think thats the close im going to get
[12:56] <gvo> Dr_Willis: no I booted normally just to be sure and my grub menu is as it should be
[12:57] <KrizOne> hi guys, im running ubntu server and im just after a bit of help installing "imagemagick" for php, when i did the apt-get to install it, it installed fine but its not showing up in php, is there something i need to do to finish the install?
[12:58] <gvo> Dr_Willis: ultrixx  can I mount the drive, chroot to it and run grub-update?
[12:59] <echo083> how to know the maximum amount of ram that my laptop will support ?
[13:00] <gvo> echo083: check manuf, specs.
[13:00] <echo083> gvo, where ?
[13:00] <DeltaHeavy> echo083: It depends on your motherboard. The easiest way is to just look up '"Dell XPS 3982" Supported RAM'
[13:00] <sirknight> DeltaHeavy, sudo mkdir /media/flashdrive/ && sudo /dev/sdf1 /media/flashdrive/ && sudo mount nautilus /media/flashdrive/
[13:00] <sirknight> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/flashdrive/': File exists
[13:00] <gvo> echo083: search for you make and model on line
[13:00] <echo083> DeltaHeavy, ok let's try that !
[13:01] <faber88> ciao a tt
[13:01] <DeltaHeavy> sirknight: Execute the command removing everything from mkdir through the first set of '&&'
[13:01] <sirknight> mkdir:  i put the mount be fore the file manger
[13:01] <faber88> list
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> gvo:  you could boot the live cd and use that boot-repair tool if you wanted.
[13:01] <gvo> Can't boot the live cd
[13:01] <gvo> That's the one that the kernel panics.
[13:01] <faber88> !list
[13:01] <gvo> The alternative cd isn't live.
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> gvo:  theres other cds that have the tool see the url for a minimal debian based one -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> If the kernel panics.. thats very weird. :)
[13:02] <gvo> OK I have 10.04 here somewhere.  That should have it.
[13:02] <ska> Im using an Asus mobo M3A78-CM. I can issue a pm-suspend and it suspends. but I can't wake via keyboard. Is there some keyboard trick, or other ideas? I can wake via the system power button.
[13:02] <ska> I checked the bios and didn't see any options that might change this.
[13:03] <ironhalik> ska: is it a USB keyboard?
[13:03] <echo083> gvo, ok i found it even i expected a geek linux command :) whatever do you know if it is better to have have two identical ram memories stick or we don't care ?
[13:03] <sirknight> DeltaHeavy,  sudo mount nautilus /media/flashdrive mount: special device nautilus does not exist
[13:04] <zaid> les
[13:04] <sirknight> DeltaHeavy, you mean hat?
[13:04] <ska> ironhalik: no, PS2
[13:04] <gvo> echo083: not important unless the computer is old
[13:05] <DeltaHeavy> sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /media/flashdrive/ && nautilus /media/flashdrive/
[13:05] <newlou-os> newlou-os
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> sirknight:  you might want to read the mount factoid help page. to better unstand whats going on.
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[13:05] <ironhalik> ska: in that case, look around in bios settings
[13:05] <echo083> gvo, ok ! we don't care about brand too ? i can have a 2Gb samsung and a 4G crucial for example or it is better the same brand for the two sticks ?
[13:06] <newlou-os> is this the irc for Zorin questions? if not what is?
[13:06] <Pierreb> DeltaHeavy & Chuck_Norris: was able to activate the drivers inside ubuntu and now it works (after reinstall)
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> newlou-os:  the zorin homepage may tell you if they have an irc channel
[13:06] <Pierreb> thx for the help :)
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> newlou-os:  because its not here. :)
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> newlou-os:  or try #zorin
[13:06] <gvo> echo083: better yes I don't know if you can mix sizes that well.  Also it's best if they are the same speed.
[13:06] <Chuck_Norris> Pierreb: Yeah!!
[13:07] <gvo> echo083: It probably won't hurt to try it.
[13:07] <Chuck_Norris> Pierreb: see what is the version driver
[13:07] <DeltaHeavy> Pierreb: No problem, glad it worked out for you.
[13:07] <echo083> gvo, if i had them i'll try !! but i need to buy them first :) i'll take a two sticks kit. anyway thanks for your help
[13:11] <drecute> please guys, how do I authenticate to ubuntu with an nis user?
[13:11] <damo22> how do i search the channel list for a keyword?
[13:11] <drecute> currently the nis client binds successfully to the nis server
[13:12] <drecute> ypcat passwd returns successful as well
[13:12] <Darael> damo22: /msg alis list *keyword*
[13:12] <Darael> damo22: Include the *s; it's regex-based as far as I can tell.
[13:13] <damo22> Darael thanks so much!
[13:13] <sirknight> DeltaHeavy,  Dr_Willis  http://pastebin.com/Tz9Wm1eu  this is what hppened
[13:13] <erik32533> on duel core intel should i use 64 bit
[13:13] <sirknight> DeltaHeavy, Using default user mapping
[13:13] <sirknight> fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[13:13] <sirknight>  and when i did it again
[13:14] <DeltaHeavy> sirknight: Did it not open up the flashdrive in the GUI?
[13:14] <Darael> erik32533: Assuming it's a 64-bit processor, which it is if it's remotely recent, yes.  There are few reasons to choose 32-bit over 64-bit these days.
[13:14] <erik32533> i get live cd
[13:14] <erik32533> to desktop
[13:14] <erik32533> it says preparing to install
[13:14] <sirknight> no
[13:15] <erik32533> but never goes anyware
[13:15] <Toph2> is a dual core processor always 64 bit?
[13:15] <erik32533> is it way im burning cd
[13:15] <sirknight> liets try to remount again and see if it will do it..  i had uit busy with the other command.. sorry
[13:16] <sirknight> Dr_Willis,  thanks for the links
[13:16] <echo083> gvo, are you still here ?
[13:17] <t432> Anybody running an eclipse/tomcat setup on ubuntu?
[13:18] <sirknight> DeltaHeavy,  when i manually find it , its there..
[13:18] <manolitos> hello guyz i want some help pls
[13:19] <charlie> hi
[13:19] <iceroot> !ask | manolitos
[13:20] <manolitos> i put ubuntu desktop @ my netbook and i got prob with wireless internet.
[13:20] <manolitos> This package contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driverfor use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-,BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-basedhardware.
[13:20] <asdf_> what's the grub2 equivilant of 'savedefault --default=n --once" ?  grub2 seems awful and overkill :(
[13:21] <sirknight> ok thanks i got it
[13:21] <asdf_> i'm trying to install xen on a remote headless server so i need to be able to boot the xen config just once to make sure it works
[13:21] <gvo> echo083: Yes
[13:22] <echo083> gvo, the command dmidecode --type memory returns "Physical Memory Array Maximum Capacity: 4 GB Number Of Devices: 2" is it 4 GB by slot or for both ?
[13:22] <Chuck_Norris> manolitos: lspci | grep 802
[13:22] <damo22> asdf_, probably with the newfangled features they made it harder to do things
[13:22] <sirknight> DeltaHeavy,
[13:22] <gvo> echo083: 4 total
[13:22] <manolitos> what is that? i m new to ubuntu
[13:22] <gvo> echo083: so you need 2 sticks of 2 gb
[13:23] <gvo> manolitos: That's what you type at a terminal
[13:23] <asdf_> damo22: yeah, I'm not happy with grub2 at all.  i understand it can do more, but 99% of what it _needs_ to do is to boot your os
[13:23] <Chuck_Norris> manolitos: open a terminal and copy & paste the command
[13:23] <erik32533> geez ubuntu wont get past preparing to install
[13:23] <echo083> gvo, cool :) 8Gb would have be cool it is too bad :(
[13:23] <tata> did Ubuntu 11.10 recognaize wireless usb: ovislink wl 1700usb?
[13:23] <gvo> echo buy  a new laptop ;)
[13:24] <echo083> gvo, by chance are you a lottery winner or someone rich ?
[13:24]  * ironhalik just got thinkpad
[13:24]  * ironhalik a thinkpad :>
[13:24] <gvo> echo083: Well if I were the former I'd be the latter, but no.
[13:25] <Anom> I'm getting the following error /bin/sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected for the cronjob 15 * * * * /etc/mysql -u root -p cpub456852 -e update wp_postmeta set meta_value = replace(meta_value, '" />', '') where meta_key='image';"\""   /// What should it be?
[13:25] <Mitchell_M> Anyone good with Nagios for Ubuntu? If so can someone tell me how to add clients once i have Nagios up and running?
[13:25] <echo083> gvo, and/or would be my question logically correct ?
[13:25] <damo22> AHAHA
[13:25] <int_ua> can I get access to a private bug somehow? I need to see if there is any workaround. 974725 to be precise
[13:26] <asdf_> sigh, could really use help w/ grub2... in a pinch here :|
[13:26] <echo083> noone millionaire around here to buy me a new laptop ?
[13:26] <manolitos> @gvo i write that and?
[13:27] <Guest91398> lol
[13:27] <Chuck_Norris> manolitos: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[13:28] <sirknight> DeltaHeavy,  i think theres a hidden filag on the flash drive ,, how to find out?
[13:28] <mbucko> can I install a second distro to go alongside ubuntu and having the same /home folder and same user? btw my /home is a separate partition
[13:28] <Charlie410> what are 'ops' ?
[13:29] <ldgs> hello could someone guide me on how to install java
[13:29] <fidel_> Charlie410: in short - some kind of irc-operator
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> !java | ldgs
[13:29] <fhtagn> Charlie410: channel operators. Something like moderators.
[13:29] <Charlie410> k
[13:29] <t432> problem solved
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> mbucko:  you could share teh home partiion. but trying to use the same named user. can cause issues.. depending on the 2 disrtos
[13:30] <ldgs> Dr_Willis i already read that but i need to be guided
[13:30] <ldgs> Im idiot
[13:30] <sirknight> echo http://shop.lenovo.com/us/laptops/thinkpad  this is a good brand .. i heard many thinks that it works well with linux most of the time
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> ldgs:  totally will depend on the 2 disrtos.
[13:30] <kvarley> Is there a way to clone an SD Card with dd but in a way that the output of the device is half the size of the actual card? For example my SD card is 512 MB but the content on there only actually fills 128MB, is there a way to clone the partitions but with a smaller cylinder size?
[13:31] <ldgs> Dr_Willis should i install 6 or 7 of the jre
[13:31] <gvo> kvarley: you'd probably be better off cloning it then shrinking it.
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> ldgs:  im mixxing up people im talking to. :) install whatever one you need. the open sourced java works for me.
[13:31] <Chuck_Norris> ldgs: 7
[13:31] <Chuck_Norris> less vulnerable =P
[13:32] <bobweaver> sirknight,  I like everythig on this list http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/    and everything from system 76 and pugget elc
[13:32] <kvarley> gvo: How can I shrink it? I want to shrink the partition size. So when you write the image to another device it would create a partition smaller in size
[13:32] <Darael> kvarley: Is there any reason a simple copy of the files on it wouldn't serve your purposes?
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> kvarley:  you could use resiZe  The partion on the sd card as small as you can with gpartd. then image that filesystem. not the whole device.
[13:33] <kvarley> Darael: Yes - I'm making an image which is going to be written to a card to be booted on an ARM device
[13:33] <Darael> kvarley: I see.  You're probably best off doing as Dr_Willis suggests, then.
[13:33] <kvarley> Dr_Willis: Would that carry over boot flags for that partition?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> kvarley:  bootable image. that does make it tougher. still you could make 2 partions on it. shrink one, then leave the back half unallocated. that way when you run out of space. its not hurting anything.
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> kvarley:  for boot mbr you need the whole disk i imagine. or could just image over the mbr.  You Might be able to image the whole device to a file then use gparted on the file/filesystems in the file. ive not done that befor.
[13:34] <manolitos> chuck norris check those photos pls
[13:34] <manolitos> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/857/screenshotfrom201205301.png/
[13:35] <kvarley> Dr_Willis: Ok - thanks
[13:35] <fhtagn> i am looking into installing (l)ubuntu, and wanted to know what kind of encryption I can use, what are my options..
[13:36] <manolitos> and that http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/screenshotfrom201205301.png/
[13:36] <manolitos> gvo r u here?
[13:38] <manolitos> any1 here to help? i upload 2 photos and i cannot install the drivers for wireless internet
[13:38] <jtac> hello i want to make a image from my USB drive, how can I do that?
[13:38] <gvo> manolitos: yes
[13:38] <manolitos> did u see the photos?
[13:38] <manolitos> gvo?
[13:39] <gvo> Looking
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> jtac:  dd can make an exact image file of a usb device.
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> jtac:  dd can also mess up your system if you do a bad typo ;)
[13:39] <gvo> manolitos: Did you try to activate it?
[13:40] <manolitos> when i press activate it told me the message @ the other image
[13:40] <Darael> Ever since the upgrade to Precise, my keyboard layout is stuck in the system default... which doesn't have any of the extra options I have set, and means I can't let other people who only type QWERTY use my computer.
[13:41] <manolitos> "sorry the installation of this driver failed, look @ the logfile for details
[13:41] <gvo> manolitos: OK Did you look in the log?
[13:41] <manolitos> no i dont know where to see for
[13:42] <gvo> The message told you where the log file was,.
[13:42] <Deathslycer> how do i remove apache
[13:43] <gvo> manolitos: /var/log/jockey.log
[13:43] <Deathslycer> Anyone knows how to remove apache 2?
[13:44] <gvo> Deathslycer: system/add/remove software might be a starting point.
[13:44] <Deathslycer> it isnt there?
[13:44] <manolitos> yes i go there and i dont know even how to open that
[13:44] <manolitos> i open it
[13:44] <gvo> manolitos: double click on it.
[13:44] <manolitos> ye i did and there is a big message
[13:44] <manolitos> so
[13:44] <Deathslycer> Itś command line installed but i dont know how to remove it again?
[13:45] <gvo> What command did you use to install it?
[13:45] <manolitos> i didnt use any command. when i open my netbook it show me that window i saw u @ photo
[13:45] <manolitos> and i press activate
[13:45] <manolitos> and then the problem
[13:46] <gvo> manolitos: sorry that question was for deatheslycer
[13:46] <Deathslycer> I cant find the command back?!
[13:46] <gvo> manolitos: so what's the error message in the file.
[13:46] <sirknight> bobweaver,  go for it,, i just go for the beast of a computer
[13:46] <gvo> Deathslycer: OK at a terminal do this "dpkg -l | grep apache"
[13:47] <manolitos> 2012-05-30 16:09:35,958 WARNING: modinfo for module vmxnet failed: ERROR: modinfo: could not find module vmxnet
[13:47] <Bubo> Hello, I have a problem with my dropbox. I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014792/
[13:47] <Bubo> Its on my VPS
[13:47] <gvo> Deathslycer: If you see apache2 listed, then try apt-get remove apache2
[13:48] <gvo> Deathslycer: Stick a "sudo" infront
[13:48] <Deathslycer> okey
[13:48] <timini> If I add a script to /etc/init.d how can I get it to be picked up by the system?
[13:48] <JyZyXEL> With PAM, how do I accomplish authentication that will REQUIRE pam_unix.so IF pam_access.so is succesfull and if not, it would REQUIRE pam_otpw.so
[13:49] <manolitos> gvo did u see the error message?
[13:49] <rkhshm1> i'm trying to sshpass from 11.10 to 11.04 but when i issue the sshpass cmd it just waits and waits for eternity...
[13:49] <gvo> manolitos: Yes look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[13:49] <rkhshm1> i verified by simple ssh that all my credentials , remote hostname are all correct
[13:49] <rkhshm1> what is the probelm?
[13:50] <aQute> skype is mnot wokjing properly on ubuntu is there a fix for it ?
[13:50] <aQute> skype is not working properly on ubuntu is there a fix for it ?
[13:51] <rkhshm1> any ideas guys?
[13:51] <rkhshm1> do i need to bind the appliances before i can use the sshpass cmd?
[13:51] <rkhshm1> please help its urgent
[13:52] <budddha> Need help configuring samba to share printers with a windows unit
[13:52] <Darael> !elaborate | aQute
[13:53] <Deathslycer> how can i stop apache2?
[13:53] <Deathslycer> this is the problem
[13:53] <Deathslycer> http://pastebin.com/P1bYLdye
[13:53] <Darael> rkhshm1: Do you have a very good reason for not using SSH keys instead?
[13:53] <proka> Hey guys
[13:54] <hsnmck> I want to start a job in upstart to set the keys to my laptop buttons, I want to do that every time I start my system, I tried to use "start on startup" but I didn't work, so I tried "start on runlevel" it worked. But I'm afraid that if I choose runlevel that my job is executed more than once, I don't really know upstart, so anyone can explain to me why it didn't work when I chosen "on startup" and what shoud I use "start on ?" to be able to start the job once
[13:54] <proka> When I make a clone of the system with clonezilla, can I restore it to basically any PC?
[13:54] <Deathslycer> The Problem is.... I still cant use Lampp
[13:55] <Deathslycer> when i use sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start it says this
[13:55] <Deathslycer> http://pastebin.com/P1bYLdye
[13:55]  * Deathslycer is big
[13:55] <OerHeks> Deathslycer, Sudo service apache2 stop
[13:55] <reisio> proka: yes, though there may be additional steps
[13:56] <reisio> proka: such as reconfiguring drivers for changed hardware, changing network settings, etc.
[13:56] <jrib> Deathslycer: use the repositories, not whatever this thing you've installed to /opt is
[13:56] <jrib> !lamp | Deathslycer
[13:56] <reisio> proka: copying files alone (with rsync or tar) is usually simpler and less of a waste of time than making an "image"
[13:56] <proka> reisio: But if I make clones and resize the partitions on my computer, I will be able to restore it normally?
[13:56] <Deathslycer> thanks for the support :D
[13:57] <compdoc> proka, yeah, it usually works fine on other systems
[13:57] <proka> reisio: Given that there is enough space on each of the new partitions ofc
[13:57] <reisio> proka: normally as in with the application, I couldn't say, in general yes
[13:58] <budddha> HAve 2 printers on my Ubuntu machine and want to access them from my windows xp machine - dont know if I have the configuration correct.... help???
[14:01] <tboat> hey so I have a weird problem, notify-osd is stalled open and is creating a drop shadow box on my desktop
[14:01] <tboat> 12.04
[14:01] <reisio> tboat: kill it
[14:01] <Eagleman> What should i fill in here for horde webmail? Filesystem location for the base Horde application :
[14:01] <tboat> it does it everytime i kill then restart
[14:01] <Eagleman> using pear
[14:02] <tavoc> hello. I do have an up to date Ubuntu 12.04 with OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012. There is a problem if you want to connect with sslv2. I do want to check if a server is capable of connecting with SSLv2 Protocol. Therefore I type:  openssl s_client -connect 127.0.0.1:443  -ssl2.
[14:02] <tavoc> But openssl tells me there is no option as ssl2
[14:02] <tavoc> in an older openssl version it was running. F.e. in debian it is working
[14:02] <tavoc> Seems like a bug in openssl or ubuntu?
[14:02] <Darael> Eagleman: Install it using the dimp1 package instead of Pear, perhaps?
[14:03] <reisio> read the instructions/comments perhaps :P
[14:03] <Darael> Eagleman: Or the imp4 package, if you want the non-dynamic one.
[14:03] <tavoc> it says: unknown option -ssl2   But in the help section there is this option
[14:04] <tavoc> with ubuntu 11.10 everything was working as expected
[14:04] <tavoc> could anyone try this command ?
[14:09] <whatev-1010> i need help formatting a drive
[14:09] <whatev-1010> ..getting a "read-only" error
[14:09] <whatev-1010> ..can't format
[14:09] <whatev-1010> using "lubuntu 12.04"- no answer in #lubuntu
[14:09] <reisio> whatev-1010: what command are you using to "format"?
[14:09] <reisio> whatev-1010: probably shouldn't have said that :p
[14:10] <whatev-1010> a gui app called "Disk Utility"
[14:10] <reisio> why do you want to format this drive?
[14:10] <whatev-1010> why do birds chirp?
[14:10] <whatev-1010> why do people ask irrlevent questions?
[14:11] <whatev-1010> i want to control my drive.
[14:11] <reisio> whatev-1010: good luck :p
[14:11] <whatev-1010> reisio, not from you, apparently
[14:11] <tavoc> could anyone please tell me if openssl s_client -connect 127.0.0.1:443 -ssl2 work for him/her in ubuntu 12.04. So that i know if its a general problem or just me
[14:12] <whatev-1010> why are linux geeks assholes?
[14:13] <reisio> LjL: and for your next trick, making them leave without doing anything at all! :D
[14:13] <chroot> hi, is there any news program that let me read news in ubuntu?
[14:13] <reisio> chroot: lots
[14:13] <gvo> chroot thunderbird does a good job
[14:14] <reisio> chroot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_feed_aggregators#Operating_system_support
[14:14] <Gierus> hi
[14:14] <LjL> chroot: typically you'd use an RSS reader fetching RSS feeds for the papers you like
[14:14] <chroot> oh, in the command line would be better!
[14:14] <reisio> chroot: fancy pants
[14:15] <LjL> chroot: "apt-cache search console rss" will give some alternatives
[14:15] <reisio> mutt probably has some support for such nonsense, too
[14:16] <chroot> oh, reisio, i know pants, but it is based on gui, can it worked on command line?
[14:16]  * reisio shrugs
[14:17] <cannonball> Morning all, does anybody know why oprofile was removed from the 12.04 repo?
[14:17] <reisio> maybe it was replaced by pprofile
[14:17] <cannonball> Hmmm, digging.
[14:18] <reisio> cannonball: no actually the maintainer probably just bailed/on it
[14:18] <reisio> I don't see any license changes, so that's the simplest explanation
[14:19] <cannonball> someone even asked in the oprofile mailing list, answer was basically "I dunno".  Your answer seems most reasonable (and only) answer I have come across.  Thanks for the feedback.
[14:20] <reisio> if you look up who was maintaining it, that'd probably yield whatever information there is to be had
[14:21] <reisio> cannonball: ah, and it could've been killed on Debian I s'pose
[14:21] <reisio> which would have killed it on Ubuntu possibly
[14:22] <reisio> but that doesn't seem to be the case :p
[14:22] <budddha> HAve 2 printers on my Ubuntu machine and want to access them from my windows xp machine - dont know if I have the SAMBA configuration correct.... help???
[14:23] <chrometiger> Hope someone can help me,  i've installed ubuntu on a ext hd   while pluged to my main pc  "which has a nvidia card"    but I really use this on my laptop which has a Intel Mobile 4 series graphics card.   I dont have any 3d acceleration and can't use  Unity or gnome shell because of it   can anyone help ?
[14:24] <reisio> chrometiger: you'd want to reconfigure X for intel
[14:24] <chrometiger> reisio:  k,  have no clue  how
[14:24] <reisio> if you were using nvidia's driver (not nouveau), you'd want to mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure the xf86 intel driver is installed
[14:25] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello everyone.  Could someone help me figure out why 12.04 refuses to authenticate to my AD network shares? I've never had this problem with Ubuntu before.
[14:25] <reisio> chrometiger: probably xserver-xorg-video-intel
[14:26] <Pierreb> any idea what could be wrong when "SD" quality videos have sound but "HD"/mkv have no sound?
[14:26] <reisio> Pierreb: missing aac support?
[14:26] <chroot> hi, how can i read mail in command line?
[14:26] <Pierreb> reisio: how do i add that?
[14:27] <reisio> chroot: mutt :D
[14:27] <reisio> Pierreb: what player?
[14:27] <Pierreb> reisio: xbmc
[14:27] <reisio> Pierreb: mmm
[14:27] <edlinde> how can I find out the CPU make/model/speed, RAM of a ubuntu machine?
[14:27] <reisio> Pierreb: do you have mplayer? It's useful for debugging such things
[14:27] <edlinde> is there a command that gives me these details?
[14:27] <reisio> edlinde: lshw-gtk
[14:27] <reisio> edlinde: lshw
[14:27] <reisio> edlinde: or /proc/cpuinfo & free -m
[14:27] <bazhang> edlinde, dmidecode
[14:27] <Pierreb> reisio: ill check brb
[14:27] <reisio> or that, yup
[14:28] <bobweaver> anyone know where to find upto date pdf's on where to get help with Ubuntu ?   (ubuntu forums here ask ubuntu ect ) I am about to go give a store some live cds and wanted to get more docs to give them
[14:28] <gudjon> need help with surround sound
[14:28] <bobweaver> I have all the ubuntu advantage stuff
[14:28] <reisio> gudjon: okay...
[14:28] <gvo> how do I get a terminal window up on 12.04?
[14:29] <edlinde> Pierreb, that command didn't work for me
[14:29] <edlinde> ill check brb
[14:29] <edlinde> was it that?
[14:29] <fugitivecoast> hi i was wondering if anyone new how to configure compiz
[14:29] <reisio> bobweaver: wkhtmltopdf + website? :)
[14:29] <reisio> fugitivecoast: sure
[14:29] <reisio> gvo: same way AFAIK, CTRL+ALT+t
[14:29] <reisio> gvo: or hit the ubuntu logo at top left and type 'terminal'
[14:30] <edlinde> reisio, I just ssh into this box
[14:30] <edlinde> to run experiments
[14:30] <JonnyRo> Do I have to use Unity with Ubuntu 12.04, or can I switch after it is installed?
[14:30] <edlinde> the lshw gave me a huge list
[14:30] <gvo> reisio well I never used C-A-t
[14:30] <edlinde> :)
[14:30] <reisio> edlinde: the simplest way is to run less /proc/cpuinfo, and free -m
[14:30] <bazhang> !notunity | JonnyRo
[14:30] <reisio> edlinde: yeah it's comprehensive
[14:31] <reisio> JonnyRo: you can switch, but depending on what you want to switch to, it might make more sense to install from different media
[14:31] <JonnyRo> wow, thats awesome
[14:31] <Pierreb> reisio: seems im missing codecs, downloading them
[14:31] <gvo> reisio thanks
[14:31] <reisio> Pierreb: :D
[14:31] <JonnyRo> i like the idea of unity but i just cant get onboard with the way it acts around multiple screens
[14:31] <Pierreb> reisio: woho sound in mplayer atleast, trying xbmc now
[14:31] <txomon> hi, how can I create a link for an app?
[14:31] <JonnyRo> single screen pc's its great
[14:31] <reisio> JonnyRo: mmm, will probably improve over time
[14:32] <reisio> Pierreb: well mplayer probably has its own codecs, or are you saying it wasn't working, either?
[14:32] <JonnyRo> reisio, i agree. I wonder if there is a way to prevent it from putting the unity dock on both screens
[14:32] <reisio> txomon: like on the desktop?
[14:32] <edlinde> I am seeing 8 entries
[14:32] <JonnyRo> or putting it on the right hand side on one
[14:32] <edlinde> does this mean I have a 8-core machine?
[14:32] <reisio> edlinde: in cpuinfo? That means the system perceives 8 cores
[14:32] <reisio> edlinde: or four core with hyperthreading, yes
[14:32] <txomon> reisio, apt:app-packet type
[14:32] <gudjon> I use my computer as a media center and i need to have my sound enabled via the hdmi in addition haveing 5.1 surround system connected to computer with 3x 3.5mm jacks.. realtec motherboard
[14:32] <reisio> txomon: hrmm?
[14:32] <edlinde> will paste it comeplace
[14:32] <fugitivecoast> reisio: is compiz the default window manager for 12.04?
[14:33] <edlinde> someplace
[14:33] <bazhang> edlinde, paste.ubuntu.com
[14:33] <reisio> fugitivecoast: yes
[14:33] <reisio> assuming your hardware is up to snuff, anyways
[14:33] <reisio> dunno what's used for unaccelerated
[14:33] <reisio> mutter, presumably
[14:34] <reisio> course that might be accelerated only, too :p don't know much about it
[14:34] <fugitivecoast> well, my computer is a dell xps17 so getting linux mint was a hassel so i figured why not try ubuntu
[14:34] <edlinde> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014861/
[14:34] <edlinde> wondering if its got 4 cores
[14:34] <reisio> fugitivecoast: why a hassle?
[14:34] <fugitivecoast> this install worked perfectly but I dont know if it is just using my Intel graphics or if it is using my Nvidia also
[14:35] <reisio> fugitivecoast: linux mint is based on ubuntu, they're likely going to be much the same
[14:35] <reisio> fugitivecoast: oh optimus?
[14:35] <txomon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#From_an_apt:_link
[14:35] <txomon> those types of link
[14:35] <fugitivecoast> reisio: yeah optimus, so i had to turn acpi off whenever i wanted to work on mint... here i have not had to do that so this seems a little easier
[14:35] <reisio> txomon: oh apt uri
[14:36] <edlinde> reisio, what do you think from the paste?
[14:36] <Pierreb> reisio: meh worked for mplayer but not so much for xbmc
[14:36] <reisio> url* :p
[14:36] <reisio> Pierreb: right mplayer has its own codecs
[14:36] <reisio> Pierreb: if you observe mplayer's output it'll probably tell you what the audio format is
[14:36] <edlinde> reisio, could it be that its with 8 cores and its a Intel Xeon(R) W3565
[14:36] <reisio> Pierreb: then you'll have a more specific thing to search for (+xbmc)
[14:37] <b4db1t> hi
[14:37] <reisio> edlinde: 4, with hyperthreading = 8 http://ark.intel.com/products/39721/Intel-Xeon-Processor-W3565-%288M-Cache-3_20-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI%29
[14:37] <reisio> edlinde: depending on how you view hyperthreading, that is :D
[14:37] <reisio> b4db1t: hiyo
[14:37] <edlinde> reisio, ok
[14:37] <edlinde> reisio, and is that 12 GB RAM?
[14:38] <edlinde> I was told the machine had 8 GB RAM on it though
[14:38] <ironm> hello. short info: for installations of MariaDB 5.3 or 5.5 on ubuntu-server 11.10 or 12.04 in off-line mode ... http://rsync.it-infrastrukturen.org/mariadb/ubuntu/mariadb-ubuntu-local-repo.pdf
[14:38] <ironm> thank you in advance for any feedback
[14:38] <reisio> edlinde: if free -m says something around 12000 (five chars), yes
[14:38] <reisio> probably show up as 11xxx
[14:39] <reisio> ironm: we have this thing called HTML nowadays
[14:39] <fugitivecoast> reisio: when i type compiz into the terminal I get the error: Screen 0 on display ":0" already has a window manager; try usign the --replace option to replace the current window manager
[14:39] <reisio> fugitivecoast: right, or 'nohup compiz-manager > /dev/null &'
[14:39] <reisio> (AKA 'compiz-manager', but somewhat nicer)
[14:39] <edlinde> reisio, so you saying its 12 GB yeah?
[14:39] <reisio> assuming Ubuntu has that still :p
[14:39] <reisio> edlinde: I don't know, you didn't show me the output
[14:40] <reisio> edlinde: if it's 11xxx it's roughly 12GB, yes
[14:40] <edlinde> reisio, its in the same paste.. if you scroll below
[14:40] <ironm> what do you mean? ... <reisio> ironm: we have this thing called HTML nowadays
[14:40] <reisio> edlinde: what paste?
[14:40] <bieb> need help with defining "JAVA_HOME"  I have added it to the end of the "Path" line in /etc/environment  (...:/use/games:JAVA_HOME=/usr/share/java")  and also tried it as its own line in environment (JAVA_HOME="/usr/share/java"   neither seem to work, the print payment program that needs java keeps telling me JAVA_HOME is not defined!
[14:40] <edlinde> Mem:         12033      11962         70          0         10      11289
[14:40] <reisio> ironm: ...so sad
[14:40] <chrometiger> reisio:  i was lost    will this site help me out if i follow it ?   http://superuser.com/questions/192121/how-to-install-intel-82852-855gm-driver-on-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat
[14:40] <edlinde> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014861/
[14:40] <ironm> reisio, are you on drugs or drunken ? *g*
[14:41] <txomon> reisio, so, any idea for those apt uris?
[14:41] <reisio> chrometiger: I doubt you'll need to go to such lengths
[14:42] <reisio> chrometiger: first I'd try simply mv'ing /etc/X11/xorg.conf elsewhere (you might want it later for the nvidia box), and making sure xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed
[14:42] <reisio> txomon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptURL
[14:42] <chrometiger> reisio:   k  how to i make sure of that ?
[14:43] <reisio> edlinde: yup, 12GB
[14:43] <fizk_> webmin.com is down
[14:43] <reisio> fizk_: good :p
[14:43] <fizk_> reisio, why is that good
[14:43] <reisio> chrometiger: try it and if it works you know and if it doesn't work you know
[14:43] <bazhang> fizk_, webmin is not supported here
[14:43] <reisio> fizk_: security hazard
[14:43] <edlinde> reisio, thanks
[14:44] <xyzzy_> Is there a way of preventing a single, one-off command from getting stored in bash's history?
[14:44] <fizk_> what do you recommend
[14:44] <gudjon> help with surround sound:
[14:44] <bazhang> !webmin | fizk_
[14:44] <gudjon> i want to have:
[14:44] <gudjon> HDMI submitting sound as usual
[14:44] <gudjon> 3x 3.5mm jacks on motherboard to submit sound to home theatre system.
[14:44] <gudjon> at the same time.?
[14:44] <FloodBot1> gudjon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:44] <edlinde> reisio, and for Ubuntu version : can I just say "uname -a"
[14:44] <imbezol> xyzzy_: unset HSTFILE
[14:44] <edlinde> ?
[14:44] <chrometiger> reisio:  my xorg.conf  just says default device    it doesn't even say  nvidia
[14:44] <bazhang> fizk_, zentyal
[14:44] <reisio> xyzzy_: you can just clear the history afterwards with history -c && echo '' > ~/.bash_history
[14:44] <bazhang> !ebox > fizk_
[14:44] <fizk_> bazhang, ok, thanks
[14:45] <xyzzy_> reisio: I don't want to clear the whole history, just exlude a single command which will contain a password
[14:45] <reisio> edlinde: for a generic idea, yes
[14:45] <edlinde> ok
[14:45] <reisio> edlinde: cat /etc/*release* might be more specific
[14:45]  * reisio shrugs
[14:45] <reisio> xyzzy_: ah, you shouldn't ever type a password in plain text (so it can be seen by eyes), history or not
[14:45] <reisio> chrometiger: not necessarily relevant :p
[14:46] <reisio> chrometiger: point is nvidia's driver (not nouveau) uses xorg.conf, but using intel you shouldn't need it (and probably further do not want it present)
[14:46] <imbezol> xyzzy_: TMPHIST="$HISTFILE" ; unset HISTFILE ; dosomething_you_want_unlogged ; export HISTFILE="$TMPHIST"
[14:46] <bieb> !JAVA_HOME
[14:47] <gudjon> need help with surround-sound how to connect 5.1 with 3x jack plugs with out disable-ing sound on HMDI
[14:47] <reisio> gudjon: why would you have to disable sound on hdmi?
[14:48] <gudjon> i dont want to disable the sound on the HDMI
[14:48] <chrometiger> reisio:  ok i've moved it     now what,,   reboot,  and what do i do if it doesn't boot back ?
[14:48] <reisio> gudjon: so don't
[14:48] <reisio> chrometiger: it'll boot whether X works or not
[14:48] <reisio> chrometiger: did you make sure the package was installed?
[14:48] <chrometiger> how ?
[14:49] <gudjon> i want to have both i cant manage to output sound on multible jack plugs
[14:49] <reisio> chrometiger: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[14:49] <ubuntumarx> ciao
[14:49] <b4db1t> bye
[14:49] <reisio> gudjon: sounds like a situation for #pulseaudio
[14:49] <chrometiger> reisio:    ok newest version is installed
[14:50] <gudjon> reisio thanks i'll check it out :)
[14:50] <reisio> chrometiger: if X doesn't start use CTRL+ALT+F2 if necessary to drop to a console, you can use the package 'irssi' to IRC from outside of X, good luck
[14:52] <dob1> hi, there is a way while connecting to a public wifi network to configure ubuntu to disable all the share folders etc?
[14:52] <fl1bbl3> dob1: probably easier to raise shields (iptables)
[14:53] <JonnyRo> fl1bbl3, I agree. I was originally going to propose stopping the samba service, but that could be a pain in the ass
[14:53] <troulouliou_dev> hi what is the best tool to set up a planning in diagram and export it in  pdf and excell format
[14:53] <JonnyRo> at least to automate
[14:53] <dob1> fl1bbl3, welcome to user friendly, it's more simple to shutdown samba then
[14:53] <JonnyRo> troulouliou_dev, i'm a pretty big fan of inkscape
[14:53] <troulouliou_dev> +- the equivalent of microsoft project under  in windows
[14:53] <JonnyRo> troulouliou_dev, GNU project is pretty decent
[14:54] <troulouliou_dev> JonnyRo, nice will take a look at it
[14:54] <fl1bbl3> dob1: well not really, and presupposed that only Samba is listening
[14:54] <txomon> ty reisio
[14:55] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello everyone.  Could someone help me figure out why 12.04 refuses to authenticate to my AD network shares? I've never had this problem with Ubuntu before.
[14:55] <fl1bbl3> dob1: you can just have a publicwifi script that automates flipping iptables to reject any inbound packet that isn't part of an existing connection
[14:55] <reisio> troulouliou_dev: http://alternativeto.net/software/microsoft-project/?platform=linux
[14:55] <reisio> troulouliou_dev: a lot of web-based stuff these days, too
[14:55] <gvo> Having a problem with b43 driver.  Did apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer but the "additional drivers" menu doesn't find it.  A modprobe of b43 unknown symbol in module, log says it doesn't like b43.blacklist
[14:55] <fl1bbl3> thats flipping as in switching over, not flipping as in fricking :)
[14:56] <chrometiger> reisio:  ok  still  I dont have the ability to use gnome shell     or Unity     keep getting reverted to  gnome classic
[14:56] <gvo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx I'm following these instructions but they don't seem to work for 12.04
[14:56] <budddha> does ANyone know anything about configuring samba?
[14:56] <dob1> fl1bbl3, i see your points, i can create an iptables script that reject incoming connections as you said, but it's bit a surprise that when you configure a connection on ubuntu theare are not options for this, in windows xp there are,  maybe they prefer to develop unity ....
[14:57] <compdoc> budddha, somewhat
[14:57] <budddha> ok
[14:57] <bazhang> budddha, whats the real question
[14:57] <troulouliou_dev> reisio, nice , planner looks good for my needs
[14:57] <reisio> chrometiger: that's not necessarily abnormal, I believe it assesses your hardware and chooses which based on what you've got
[14:57] <budddha> i have 2 printers on the ubuntu machine that i want to access from a win xp machine
[14:57] <reisio> troulouliou_dev: no nonsense? Got something against nonsense?! :p
[14:58] <budddha> i can see my computer when i do discovery but not my printers
[14:58] <budddha> how do i do this properly?
[14:58] <compdoc> I dont share printers, but dont you use cups for that?
[14:59] <budddha> cups didnt work for me
[14:59] <budddha> samba was recommended
[14:59] <OerHeks> budddha, i would acces the printers tru http://<hostname>:631/printers/<printername> >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[15:00] <compdoc> Im not sure samba by itself shares printers
[15:00] <chrometiger> reisio: its like I have no drivers installed at all   even google earth says  unknown graphics card and closes
[15:01] <troulouliou_dev> reisio, no pdf / excell export tough
[15:01] <Pierreb> how do i get to "GUI" from console in ubuntu?
[15:02] <budddha> thanks guys.. will try these things and get back if i have probs
[15:02] <gvo> Pierreb how did you get to console in the first place?
[15:02] <Brustoski-Fan> Any idea's on how to enable rgba window transparency
[15:02] <Pierreb> gvo: it booted into it
[15:03] <gvo> Pierreb What did you install from?
[15:03] <gvo> Version/level, etc.
[15:03] <Pierreb> gvo: regular iso from ubuntu
[15:03] <Pierreb> current lts
[15:03] <gvo> It should have gone into the gui automatically.
[15:03] <Pierreb> i updated the graphic drivers...
[15:03] <gvo> Did you attempt the live cd first?
[15:04] <gvo> Pierreb: did it work in gui mode before you updated the graphic drivers?
[15:04] <Pierreb> gvo: the installation booted into gui before but i updated the nvidia drivers and now it kinda wont boot into gui
[15:04] <Pierreb> just cli
[15:05] <gvo> Pierreb: edit the .xsession-errors file
[15:05] <gvo> Pierreb: You may be able to see a meaningful error.
[15:06] <gvo> Pierreb: also try dmesg | less and page through to see if there are any errors.
[15:06] <Pierreb> gvo: kk ill check that
[15:06] <ubuntumarx> list
[15:08] <SKullB0x> hi, what is the root directory of nginx for public access. /usr/share/nginx/www/ works find locally. but i have port farwarded for remote access n i get 404 status
[15:08] <ikonia> SKullB0x: the directory doesn't change
[15:08] <SKullB0x> the response headers show the nginx/1.0.5 as server
[15:09] <Pierreb> gvo: found it it says the kernel module have version 295.45 and im running 295.53
[15:09] <Pierreb> so it stopped
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[15:09] <SKullB0x> ikonia: but i can't access my website remotely :(.  it works locally thou
[15:09] <gvo> Pierreb: Interesting.
[15:09] <iceroot> ItalSpliff: stop it
[15:09] <ikonia> ItalSpliff: please don't spam
[15:09] <ikonia> SKullB0x: yes, that's most likley your port forwarding setup wrong, or your web server not set to listen on the right address
[15:09] <DJones> klined already
[15:09] <spillere> i've installed ubuntu virtual machine on a ubuntu host. I have two IPs, i set the same ip configuration from the host on the guest, just changing the ip address, any idea on other things i have to change to make it work?
[15:10] <Rowley> Hey guys and girls.  Anyone in here technically minded on Wifi problems?
[15:10] <reisio> spillere: mv /etc/udev/rules.d/*persistent* stuff
[15:10] <ikonia> Rowley: just ask your real question
[15:10] <rasalhague> hello everyone
[15:10] <SKullB0x> ikonia the server is listening. it says nginx/1.0.5 in the response headers but the status is 404!
[15:10] <reisio> spillere: unless it wasn't migrated, in which case don't :p
[15:11] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello everyone.  Could someone help me figure out why 12.04 refuses to authenticate to my AD network shares? I've never had this problem with Ubuntu before.
[15:11] <ikonia> SKullB0x: ok, so look at the nginx log see if it gets the hit and what the error is
[15:11] <amelia_> Hej -- on a machine running 11.10, do i want to do the update manager route to 12.04 or do a fresh install from LiveUSB? Pros/Cons of each?
[15:12] <ikonia> SKullB0x: it's probably not set to listen on the public address, so when it gets headers from the public address doesn't know what to do with them
[15:12] <ikonia> amelia_: totally your call
[15:12] <Rowley> Ok looked through a tonne of info still no answer. I have a TP-Link 300 mbps wireless PCI adapter. It wold seem that it makes 12.04 freeze whenever it is turned on.  From study people say it needs Atheros drivers and it indeed picks up these in the install. Is there anyhting else I could try.
[15:12] <OerHeks> amelia_, download the iso, put it on usb and do release upgrade. if anything goes wrong, you have an usb to solve problems
[15:13] <ikonia> Rowley: it makes your whole machine physically lock up ?
[15:13] <amelia_> OerHeks: release upgrade? And do you mean just go the "Update Manager" route and have the USB just in case?
[15:13] <Rowley> Yes it does
[15:13] <spillere> reisio; what you mean?
[15:13] <OerHeks> amelia_, yes, this is the safest way to do.
[15:13] <ikonia> Rowley: does the mouse still move ?
[15:13] <reisio> spillere: nothing, did you have a problem?
[15:14] <amelia_> Thought so, thanks - although I prefer the fresh install, I've heard upgrading can cause issues
[15:14] <SKullB0x> ikonia: how do i make nginx serve public address like it would do locally
[15:14] <Rowley> Yes I believe the mouse still moves.
[15:14] <ikonia> SKullB0x: it depends on your set,
[15:14] <ikonia> Rowley: can you confirm ?
[15:14] <spillere> reisio i have 70-persistent-net.rules, do i move it where?
[15:14] <Cajun_Lan_Man> amelia_: Clean installs are always more likely to be problem free.  One thing you may want to consider is how much customization you've put into the system.  Upgrades will carry over a lot of that customatization, and save you the hassle of having to do it all over again.
[15:14] <ikonia> SKullB0x: what do the logs say for the hits
[15:14] <Rowley> Yes I can confirm that the mouse still moves.
[15:14] <fizk_> bazhang, I installed Zentyal, but I'm unable to add/remove local users
[15:14] <ikonia> Rowley: ok, so the machine isn't hard locking then, good
[15:15] <reisio> spillere: nowhere, though you had migrated the install to the guest system, but you did a fresh install didn't you
[15:15] <ikonia> Rowley: so what happenes if you click on an icon, say launch an application like a terminal
[15:15] <spillere> reisio: yes i have never user a VM on my server before
[15:15] <spillere> so it's the first time
[15:15] <amelia_> Cajun_Lan_Man: that was my thinking, thanks
[15:15] <Rowley> Well it does not usually let me get that far. I litrally have 10 to 30 seconds on connection time
[15:15] <fizk_> bazhang, I thought the Users and Groups module would have this feature, but it only has the ability to change the ldap user mode
[15:15] <spillere> reisio: do i need to change things on the host or the guest?
[15:16] <Rowley> With Ethernet lead in however it is fine, also I updated fully using an Ethernet lead, tried a full re-install with wifi off also.
[15:17] <Cajun_Lan_Man> amelia_: If you do try the upgrade, just make sure your data is backed up, and have the USB/CD to do a clean install if it goes wonky on you.
[15:17] <ikonia> Rowley: the connection being there/not there shouldn't change if you can open an application or not
[15:17] <ikonia> Rowley: what happens when you try to launch an application, such as a terminal
[15:17] <amelia_> yup, tack :)
[15:18] <Rowley> As soon as wifi is turned on all I have functioning is the mouse so I cannot use terminal or any application, however with wifi off I can use Ubuntu completely fine with no problems what so ever.
[15:18] <Molfar> hi there. In /etc/rc.local I have put a command (cd /home/ubuntu/keybow && git pull) &>/home/ubuntu/git.log but after reboot I see empty file /home/ubuntu/git.log, but I expect it to have git's output. what is that?
[15:19] <Molfar> generally, I need to update git repository at system startup
[15:19] <Osakasa> Hi, i'm trying to install wine1.5 but get this error (2 lines) E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) and second line E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:19] <ikonia> Rowley: what happens when you try to launch an application such as a terminal
[15:19] <Molfar> Osakasa: try sudo
[15:19] <Osakasa> yep, sudo apt-get install wine1.5
[15:19] <spillere> reisio: do i need to add another SUBSYSTEM then on host?
[15:19] <Molfar> Osakasa: or close synaptic
[15:20] <Rowley> It does nothing. It does not seem to register the fact I clicked on anything.
[15:20] <reisio> spillere: to accomplish what?
[15:20] <fizk_> ah, module wasn't enabled
[15:20] <spillere> reisio: on my VM guest, i can't access the internet
[15:20] <Osakasa> worked, thanks ☺
[15:20] <reisio> spillere: modprobe e1000
[15:20] <ikonia> Rowley: ok, so when you click the icon to launch something, there is nothing to signify it's actually taken the click
[15:20] <Rowley> That is correct
[15:21] <spillere> reisio: what does it do?
[15:21] <reisio> spillere: enables the network driver :p
[15:21] <ikonia> Rowley: as a test can you please open a terminal, make sure it has focus, then turn on wifi, when the machine starts being a problem, see if you can still type in the terminal
[15:21] <reisio> spillere: assuming the default, lspci | grep -i net would tell you for sure which is being provided
[15:21] <Rowley> right ok will do
[15:22] <spillere> reisio: ifconfig give's me ip's and everuthing
[15:22] <reisio> spillere: check net settings in vbox, should be set to NAT by default
[15:22] <spillere> I set as bridge
[15:23] <reisio> spillere: why'd you do that
[15:23] <spillere> reisio: idk, VMs at my work are like this, let me try NAT
[15:23] <Cerrdor> which package has dig, host etc..?
[15:24] <reisio> Cerrdor: apt-file could tell you
[15:24] <imbezol> Cerrdor: try bind9utils
[15:25] <Derpadong> Isnt MATE like a clone of GNOME2 but more updated?
[15:25] <imbezol> Cerrdor: host is bind9-host on my machine
[15:25] <reisio> Derpadong: it's a clone, anyways
[15:25] <reisio> Derpadong: and by clone I mean fork
[15:25] <Cerrdor> but I need a dig
[15:25] <reisio> and by fork I mean they ran s/gnome/mate/
[15:25] <Derpadong> Oh ok
[15:26] <reisio> Cerrdor: ...
[15:26] <spillere> reisio: anyway as NAT it doesnt work, maybe the IP's i'm using arent right
[15:26] <spillere> how to set DHCP back on?
[15:26] <reisio> should probably talk to #vbox, then
[15:26] <Cerrdor> reisio, -bash: apt-file: command not found
[15:26] <spillere> ill do
[15:26] <reisio> spillere: what's the guest going to be for, exactly?
[15:26] <fizk_> nice, I saved changes on Ebox and now my server is unresponsive
[15:26] <reisio> Cerrdor: install it
[15:26] <chrometiger> reisio: ok   Unity works now  not well but works,   gnomeshell and google earth does not,  I still dont know whats going on ?
[15:26] <spillere> reisio: a python dev machine
[15:26] <reisio> fizk_: and that's why you don't use webUIs to administer servers
[15:27] <imbezol> reisio Cerrdor: you can just do dpkg -S /path/to/file
[15:27] <fizk_> reisio, are you kidding me, I've been using webmin just fine for a long time
[15:27] <reisio> chrometiger: I doubt googleearth is related
[15:27] <reisio> chrometiger: gnome shell I don't know, it might require accel
[15:27]  * reisio shrugs
[15:27] <reisio> spillere: can't you do that on your Ubuntu... host?
[15:27] <Cerrdor> imbezol, the file isnt installed yet
[15:27] <reisio> imbezol: ^
[15:28] <spillere> reisio: yes but i want to set on a guest
[15:28] <reisio> fizk_: what does my kidding you or not have to do with you having used webmin for a long time
[15:28] <spillere> maybe i install ubuntu graphic then
[15:28] <reisio> spillere: but why :p
[15:29] <spillere> reisio: coz i want to have a VM for some other things that i can screw up
[15:29] <spillere> :)
[15:29] <reisio> kay :p
[15:29] <reisio> spillere: not sure why you need more than DHCP in that case
[15:29] <spillere> i didnt install DHCP
[15:30] <spillere> coz i'm installling on a ded server, which dont have DHCP i guess
[15:30] <reisio> mmm, unlikely, but
[15:30]  * reisio shrugs
[15:30] <spillere> ill reinatall and try to set it with DHCP then
[15:31] <reisio> spillere: you don't have to reinstall :/
[15:31] <spillere> how do I set DHCP?
[15:31] <spillere> it's only terminal
[15:32] <reisio> just undoing whatever you did in your attempt to use a static IP should suffice
[15:32] <spillere> i did static when istalling
[15:32] <spillere> :)
[15:33] <reisio> silly installers
[15:33] <spillere> ;)
[15:33] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dhcp.html
[15:34] <chroot> reisio: i found that if i want to use mutt, i have to install postfix, but i don't want to install a mail server.
[15:34] <reisio> actually that's probably the wrong page
[15:34] <reisio> chroot: no you don't have to
[15:35] <reisio> spillere: reverse of this, probs :p http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html
[15:35] <chroot> reisio: i just want to use mutt instead of thunderbird, is it easy?
[15:36] <reisio> chroot: I'd say so, yes
[15:36] <Ping-Win> hello room.
[15:36] <msm> i added a freenode IRC account, and empathy is won't let me add an actual contact
[15:36] <msm> its greyed out
[15:36] <msm> what am I missing here?
[15:37] <reisio> Ping-Win: hi
[15:37] <reisio> msm: contact?
[15:37] <Ping-Win> i'm having an issue with software updates
[15:37] <reisio> and what issue is that?
[15:37] <spillere> reisio: ty
[15:38] <msm> reisio: the empathy add contact window comes up
[15:38] <msm> but i can't add a contact
[15:38] <msm> its greyed out when I go to pick what account to add under
[15:38] <msm> the freenode server is greyed out
[15:38] <msm> im acutally connected and people can talk to me
[15:38] <reisio> what do you mean a contact?
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> !enter| msm
[15:39] <reisio> irc doesn't have contacts
[15:39] <reisio> it only has servers and channels
[15:39] <vmiheer> Can i use the makefile provided by deb package to build extention of the package?
[15:39] <iceroot> is there a way to disable the menu in the top-panel and have it instead in the program itself again?
[15:39] <msm> reisio: hmm, ok
[15:39] <reisio> iceroot: yup
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> iceroot  disable or delete globalmenu
[15:39] <Ping-Win> i installed ubuntu 12.04 on a dell studio 1735. there are two updates under the distribution updates that just stay there forever
[15:40] <Cerrdor> So I have bind9utils and netutils installed and still no dig
[15:40] <Cerrdor> wtf?
[15:40] <reisio> Cerrdor: did you use apt-file?
[15:40] <Ping-Win> one is a hangul engine for ibus
[15:40] <ikonia> Cerrdor: dig is not a bind9 util
[15:40] <iceroot> reisio: MonkeyDust thx
[15:40] <Vooloo> Cerrdor: dnsutils
[15:40] <iceroot> vmiheer: why not using dpkg to rebuild the package itself?
[15:40] <iceroot> vmiheer: so you are using the souce-package to build a new deb-file
[15:41] <Ping-Win> the other is a korean system monitor for ibus
[15:41] <xentrepreneur> where are the current sessions stored in the file system ?
[15:41] <Ping-Win> how do i get rid of those?
[15:41] <vmiheer> ironm: No actually llvm package has provided /usr/lib/llvm-2.9/build/ directory
[15:41] <xentrepreneur> how can i reopen them?
[15:42] <Cerrdor> Vooloo, thats the one thanks so much
[15:42] <iLogical> How do I upgrade to the lastest stable release of Ubuntu from 10.04 LTS ?
[15:42] <reisio> Cerrdor: would've had it ages ago if you'd only used apt-file
[15:42] <vmiheer> ironm: I want to write the llvm pass ( actually a shared library using llvm)
[15:42] <Cerrdor> reisio, apt-file search returned about 9 kabillion results for dig
[15:42] <iceroot> iLogical: from 10.04?
[15:42] <Cerrdor> it was including digital, *dig*
[15:42] <iLogical> yes
[15:43] <reisio> iLogical: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades
[15:43] <xentrepreneur> hello friends, I have a session running on a remote desktop
[15:43] <vmiheer> ironm: I used llvm-config-2.9 --cxxflags --libs to build binaries
[15:43] <iceroot> iLogical: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to have the latest version for 10.04
[15:43] <reisio> Cerrdor: 's'what less/grep are for
[15:43] <xentrepreneur> how can i reopen that from my computer
[15:43] <amh345> is there an updated package for upgrading apache2 2.2 to apache 2.4?   i tried running apt-get upgrade apache2 but no dice.
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> !upgrade| iLogical
[15:43] <Cerrdor> Ohhh you assumed I knew how to use those commands as well :P
[15:43] <iceroot> iLogical: ah you want 12.04 and not the latest stable release of 10.04
[15:43] <weetabeex> hello all
[15:43] <ackbahr> Hi! While installing Precise Pangolin I played around with the accessibility settings and now I 'm stuck with the huge mouse cursor for visually impaired users... Can someone walk me through getting it to be of normal size?
[15:43] <reisio> xentrepreneur: assuming you enabled VNC, by using vncviewer
[15:44] <xentrepreneur> reisio: i using xrdp
[15:44] <iLogical> yes
[15:44] <reisio> Cerrdor: no, I assumed you might state a problem if you encountered one, as you already had at least once, instead of ignoring the problem and just repeating your question over and over like a parrot :p
[15:44] <reisio> xentrepreneur: then it'd be rdesktop or freerdp
[15:44] <Cerrdor> reisio, so what did we learn today?
[15:45] <reisio> Cerrdor: I haven't learned anything all day
[15:45] <Cerrdor> reisio, man that stinks
[15:45] <reisio> you learned that ignoring useful advice sometimes still gets you someone spoon feeding you a solution :p
[15:45] <reisio> Vooloo: gj
[15:46] <Cerrdor> for your info reisio I did not IGNORE it
[15:46] <reisio> or maybe you already knew that :p
[15:46] <reisio> Cerrdor: course you did :p
[15:46] <Cerrdor> I simply found it more wasteful than I needed atm
[15:46] <reisio> you simply pressed the up arrow and enter instead
[15:46] <reisio> I Get it
[15:46] <Cerrdor> you certainly do
[15:46] <Cerrdor> anything else I can help you with?
[15:46] <reisio> inorite
[15:46] <Cerrdor> umadbro
[15:47] <reisio> Cerrdor: I had a sandwich but am still hungry :/
[15:47] <imbezol> Cerrdor: dnsutils
[15:47] <reisio> Cerrdor: dnsutils
[15:47] <Cerrdor> imbezol, yeah I got it installed
[15:49] <iLogical> My update manager show only to upgrade to 10.10, i want the lastest stable version 12.04
[15:49] <iLogical> shows*
[15:50] <chroot> can anoybody show me how to send and get mail in command line?
[15:50] <iLogical> do I have to upgrade to 10.10, in order to upgrade to 12.04?
[15:50] <DJones> iLogical: 10.04 doesn't offer to update to 12.04 until the release of 12.04.1 which is due in june
[15:51] <xentrepreneur> reisio: it starts new session for the same user.
[15:51] <DJones> iLogical: Its to give any issues time to be settled before people using the LTS version are upgraded to the next LTS version
[15:51] <xentrepreneur> i cant gte hold of the existing session
[15:51] <jrib> iLogical: if you want to upgrade now, you must pass -d to update-manager (see 12.04 release notes)
[15:51] <zanberdo> is there a way for me to initiate some form of chat session with a desktop user while ssh'd into their host?  I'm on the command line and they are in a gnome session and I want something like an IM session...
[15:51] <iLogical> jrib, how?
[15:52] <jrib> iLogical: i just said how
[15:52] <gvo> chroot install mailutils
[15:52] <jrib> !notes | iLogical
[15:52] <gvo> chroot then man mail
[15:53] <chroot> ok, thanks gvo
[15:53] <iLogical> jrib, I started update-manager with -d  but it only show to upgrade to 10.10 avaiable
[15:53] <iLogical> shows*
[15:54] <jrib> iLogical: see the release notes for complete details on what steps you must take
[15:54] <iLogical> ok
[15:55] <Ping-Win> if anyone is available, can someone help out a linux newbie, and tell me how to delete software updates that appear in the update manager but will not install?
[15:55] <jrib> Ping-Win: be more specific
 I have setup a RAID 1 implementation using 2 active drives (sda & sdb) and 1 spare (sdc). To test it out, I have tried removing the sda. I get the grub menu and after that a black screen. I tried the same thing with removing sdb, I get the grub menu, and then it also stays on a black screen. Is this what I should be expecting?
[15:55] <compdoc> Ping-Win, which?
[15:55] <xentrepreneur> somebody look into my problem please
[15:56] <Ping-Win> there are 2 distrubution updates for something called Ibus
[15:56] <jrib> !helpme | xentrepreneur
[15:56] <iLogical> jrib, many thanks ;)
[15:56] <Ping-Win> they stay in my update manager cnstantly and will not install
[15:56] <xentrepreneur> !attitude
[15:57] <xentrepreneur> !repeat
[15:57] <iceroot> apt-get changelog lm-sensors is saying no changelog is avaibale i should try launchpad but "apt-get source lm-sensors" is showing me a changelog file. why is apt-get changelog not giving any results?
[15:57] <kelvinella> hi how come i dont have spell check in ff anymore?
[15:57] <EbubekirK> hi all
[15:58] <jrib> iceroot: I don't know, but pretty sure that tool uses changelogs.ubuntu.com
[15:58] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello everyone.  Could someone help me figure out why 12.04 refuses to authenticate to my AD network shares? I've never had this problem with Ubuntu before.
[15:58] <iceroot> jrib: ah ok i thought its using the source-package directly and not another website
[15:58] <compdoc> Cajun_Lan_Man, are you logged in with the same username and password?
[15:59] <portis0> hey , is it possible for a boot sector virus that was installed via windows to allow access to ubuntu?
[15:59] <iceroot> jrib: you are right
[16:00] <L3top> kelvinella: check edit/preferences/advanced/general "Check my spelling as I type"
[16:00] <iceroot> jrib: Fehl Änderungsprotokoll für lm-sensors (http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/l/lm-sensors/lm-sensors_3.3.1-2ubuntu1/changelog) 404  Not Found
[16:00] <Cajun_Lan_Man> compdoc: regardless of how I'm logged in, it prompts me for a username, password, and domain. In previous versions, I just filled out the required info, told it to remember me until I log out, and everything was fine.  However now, in 12.04, it prompts me for the info, I enter it, but it just repeats the prompt, as if I had entered the incorrect information.
[16:01] <L3top> what is your issue xentrepreneur?
[16:02] <iceroot> jrib: the bug is the version of the package, someone forgot 1_3.3.* they used 3.3.* without the 1_
[16:02] <peterrooney> portis0: can't see why not.  ext3/4 filesystem drivers exist for windows.
[16:02] <jrib> iceroot: ah
[16:03] <iceroot> jrib: i will report a bug against lm_sensors so they can fix the changelog because there is the bug, that file is creating the package-version
[16:03] <xentrepreneur> L3top: i accesed my computer using xrdp remotely and now am back on my computer and want to get hold of the previous session which is still active
[16:03] <xentrepreneur> when i try to login, it opens a new session of same user
[16:04] <imbezol> xentrepreneur: can you use that new session to xrdp to the existing one again? close up your stuff, save what you need, and close it off?
[16:04] <Ezim> hi everyone. will ubuntu update libreoffice 3.4.5 under 12.04 should a user use ppa or download from there site?
[16:04] <portis0> peterrooney - so it is feasible that a dual booting linux/windows laptop with a virus on windows could allow access to the linux machine when booted? In this case linux was installed from windows.
[16:04] <iceroot> xentrepreneur: then the session was killed
[16:04] <xentrepreneur> i can acces the session from the remote desktop
[16:04] <iceroot> xentrepreneur: xrdp will always first look if there is another open session (not the session directly on the real screen because that session is different)
[16:04] <L3top> xentrepreneur: I do not know of a way to do that. Sorry.
[16:05] <iceroot> xentrepreneur: the real session on the machine directly is something different then an xrdp session
[16:05] <portis0> peterrooney - i sort of assumed a virus that infected ubuntu and allowed remote trojan access was not out there really
[16:05] <Thor^^> Hi, I'm trying to set up OpenVPN with network bridging (following: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN) question that I got now tho is, which net should I bridge? I got 2 nics, one internal and one external
[16:05] <xentrepreneur> iceroot: there's no workarpound to do that?
[16:05] <lanceio> I removed gnome from ubuntu, I use fluxbox now, I removed the sound, so to speak, I removed the alsa, I use oss now, but im irritaed with this oss thingy, so I want to go back to alsa, and I thought while i am at it, i'll get xubuntu too, can you tell me what are the packages i'll need? a list of them will be nice.
[16:06] <iceroot> xentrepreneur: that is bot a bug, that is a feature
[16:06] <iceroot> xentrepreneur: vnc is want to use the REAL session also from remote
[16:06] <iceroot> is what you have to use
[16:07] <xentrepreneur> but vnc is very slow for some reason,iceroot
[16:07] <xentrepreneur> atleast for me
[16:07] <iceroot> xentrepreneur: yes
[16:07] <iceroot> xentrepreneur: but there is no other way
[16:07] <Vinnie_win> how do I access a Windows network share from Ubuntu running in a VirtualBox ?
[16:07] <iceroot> xentrepreneur: vnc is rendering the session on the server and you see the image, rdp is rendering the image on the client and is very fast
[16:07] <iceroot> xentrepreneur: you cant use a normal session with rdp
[16:08] <shaneo> hey guys ive been using Ubuntu Acccomplishments system and when it syncs the .trophys they are auto moved to the trash bin is this normal or is there something wrong
[16:08] <ironm> Hi. What do you mean? ... <vmiheer> ironm: No actually llvm package has provided /usr/lib/llvm-2.9/build/ directory
[16:09] <xentrepreneur> iceroot: if i rd from my computer to my own computer I should be able to access that session right? even then it opens a new session
[16:09] <iceroot> xentrepreneur: ?
[16:09] <iceroot> !freenx | xentrepreneur
[16:09] <beasty> evening all
[16:09] <iceroot> xentrepreneur: hav a look there what rdp is
[16:09] <Vinnie_win> how do I access a Windows network share from Ubuntu running in a VirtualBox ?
[16:09] <OerHeks> xentrepreneur, what makes you think the old session is still running?
[16:10] <beasty> small question ... i just updated to 12.04 and my mouse is only moving up and down ... anyone had this error ? (it's a logitech mx5500 set)
[16:10] <imbezol> beasty: do any of the clickable buttons move it side to side?
[16:11] <xentrepreneur> OerHeks: I am not sure but if i rd from the same computer again, the session will still be there. I had tried this before
[16:11] <Vinnie_win> how do I access a Windows network share from Ubuntu running in a VirtualBox ?
[16:12] <beasty> imbezol: no
[16:13] <iceroot> Vinnie_win: is windows the vm-host?
[16:13] <Vinnie_win> iceroot: Yes
[16:14] <iceroot> Vinnie_win: then you can use the virtualbox share directory (its a feature from vbox) see #vbox
[16:14] <Vinnie_win> iceroot: Ah okay, that would be fine. Thanks
[16:14] <Vinnie_win> https://github.com/vinniefalco/LuaBridgeDemo/downloads Can you test my Linux demo and see if it works for you on Ubuntu?
[16:15] <pausb> hi all
[16:15] <dagerik> Vinnie_win: Provide the source you donk.
[16:15] <pausb> is there a bug that ubuntu changes language to chinese?
[16:15] <Vinnie_win> dagerik: Its there, of course - I want to see if the executable will work
[16:16] <Vinnie_win> dagerik: Will my executable run on a variety of systems?
[16:16] <iceroot> Vinnie_win: that is offtopic here
[16:17] <Vinnie_win> iceroot: Where's a good place to ask?
[16:19] <iceroot> Vinnie_win: #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:19] <Vinnie_win> okies thanks
[16:20]  * gepatino is away: out for lunch
[16:20] <amh345> my ssh connection is timing out after 5 mins of inactivity.  where can i configure that?
[16:20] <iceroot> amh345: imo on the server in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[16:21] <amh345> iceroot: i think it was configured somewhere else.  a profile or something
[16:21] <Pumpkin-> you can configure it in multiple places
[16:22] <Pumpkin-> look for keepalive stuff in "man ssh_config"
[16:22] <Pumpkin-> you can set that either globally for all users in /etc/ssh/ssh_config, or for just you in .ssh/config or at a specific command line "-o STUFF".
[16:22] <feral> hostname
[16:22] <xentrepreneur> OerHeks: system monitor is still running the programs that were initiated from rd
[16:23] <designbybeck> Have any of you used Remastersys!?
[16:23] <feral> hy all
[16:23] <designbybeck> I'm trying to create my own distro using remastersys, so far I have a usb the boots and I have all my software I want on there
[16:24] <thauriswulfa> HELP: There's no sound on my netbook, and as I am checking on pulse audio volume control there's no sound output device listed there except dummy outputit was all working before, I restarted too but no change need help
[16:26] <stueng> hi, which ubuntu do I need for this CPU - VIA C3™/ VIA Eden™ EBGA processor
[16:27] <OerHeks> stueng, ubuntu 32 bit
[16:27] <oCean> !afk > samkottler|afk
[16:28] <amh345> bashrc is where it's set
[16:28] <amh345> TIMEOUT=x
[16:28] <stueng> oerheks I tried 32bit server CD and it told me during boot that I need to find the right version for my CPU
[16:29] <dors> just to clarify thauriswulfa, not that i could help much, but what 'before' means? before what? upgrade? then of what? give more data...
[16:30] <ikonia> stueng: don't use server
[16:30] <stueng> ikonia: I dont want a gui... I cant boot the mini.iso either.. so now what?
[16:30] <ikonia> stueng: it's probably too old now to contain the full instruction set that the kernel wants
[16:30] <ikonia> stueng: remove the gui, just see if the CD will boot
[16:30] <stueng> k
[16:31] <stueng> busy writing the alternate iso atm
[16:31] <mbucko> when i switch tty using ctrl+alt+F6 can i then load up the UI and have two users running it? if so how?
[16:34] <stueng> mbucko: startx -- :1
[16:35] <chu> Cool, so you can have two X server connections up?
[16:36] <chu> (or more)
[16:37] <wawowe> chu: yes
[16:37] <stueng> ikonia error says please use a kernel appropiate for your cpu... so I should get an old verstion of ubuntu ?
[16:37] <chu> Very cool.
[16:38] <Eclife> My keyboard and touchpad are frozen on start up... can anyone help?
[16:38] <ikonia> stueng: depends what it wants
[16:38] <ikonia> stueng: it used to be a common issue with VM's booting the ubuntu CD's as they didn't emmulate a CPU with certain instructions/components
[16:39] <ikonia> stueng: that dependency has been in place for a good few years now, so you may be out of luck
[16:39] <samkottler> oCean: sorry about that :)
[16:39] <stueng> ikonia: I would have thought linux would be better suited to run on an older CPU than any other os :(
[16:39] <ikonia> stueng: "linux is" a lot of distributions aren't
[16:40] <stueng> eugh I dont wanna run another dist
[16:41] <mbucko> stueng, but you can only have 1 GUI at a time right?
[16:42] <Eclife> hey guys... is this were I can get some help with Ubuntu?
[16:42] <stueng> mbuck, you mean desktop environment ?
[16:42] <stueng> eclife, yes
[16:42] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello All. Could someone help me figure out why 12.04 wont authenticate to my AD network shares? I didn't have this problem before 12.04, and I can't figure out what changed, much less how to fix it.
[16:43] <stueng> cajun_lan_man: what errors do you get when you type mount -a ?
[16:43] <Eclife> Stueng: my touchpad and keyboard are frozen every on start up
[16:44] <wawowe> Eclife: i would disable the login manager
[16:44] <stueng> without a keyboard :P
[16:44] <wawowe> Eclife: if you want to do that boot up the install cd or in single user mode
[16:44] <stueng> does desktop come with ssh server by default ?
[16:45] <wawowe> Eclife: mount, chroot, and apt-get remove
[16:45] <jrib> stueng: not installed
[16:45] <wawowe> stueng: nope
[16:45] <Eclife> Stueng: I've tried using automatic login to skip lightdm, but it doesn't work
[16:45] <wawowe> Eclife: autologin still uses lightdm
[16:45] <Cajun_Lan_Man> stueng, Thanks for the help. First let me apologize for being Linux noob. Do you want me to literally type that in the terminal? The issue is happening when I browse to the share in the gui. It prompts me for username/password/domain. For some reason it reject what I type in, despite it being the correct information.
[16:46] <Eclife> wawowe: I'll try mount, chroot, and apt-get
[16:47] <wawowe> Eclife: k, you'll need a root terminal
[16:47] <Cajun_Lan_Man> stueng, in older versions of Ubuntu, it would accept the credentials, and prompt me for how long I wanted to be authenticated for.
[16:47] <Eclife> wawowe: can you send me the script to do that... I'm not a pro using the terminal
[16:47] <wawowe> Eclife: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev; mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc
[16:48] <wawowe> Eclife: chroot /mnt
[16:48] <wawowe> Eclife: apt-get remove lightdm
[16:48] <wawowe> Eclife: exit
[16:48] <wawowe> Eclife: umount /mnt/{proc,dev}; umount /mnt
[16:48] <Eclife> wowowe: can I run just" apt-get remove lightdm?
[16:48] <wawowe> Eclife: reboot
[16:49] <wawowe> Eclife: no
[16:49] <hsnmck> i'm using using ubuntu 12.04, i'm not able to zoom in or out, is this because of unity?
[16:49] <wawowe> Eclife: run all those from mount to reboot and it'll work
[16:50] <Eclife> Wowowe: thanks, ill try it
[16:53] <blackcatnekonegr> Ok, I tried formating a usb flash drive, and I must have really broke it, cause all I get now when I plug it in is a "AX216 FLASH READER" mensage and that's it. Last time I buy one that's not from the two most popular brands.
[16:53] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: how did you format it?
[16:55] <blackcatnekonegr> wawowe, Gparted, but the device had been me giving error messages since day one, so I guess I will just have to buy one thats not from that brand.
[16:55] <thauriswulfa> dors: not after upgrade I mean last time I played any audio-video media, now when I see
[16:56] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: make sure you put the filesystem on sda1 not sda
[16:56] <duckxx> hi everyone.. im starting up a skill share space in nyc and wanted to use some of the space time to be able to hold ubuntu  meetups to educated others in it.. if you want to support this endevour, check this out: http://www.luckyant.com/nyc/lower-east-side/index.html --- its not just classes i want to do but also open source meetups for other new technologies that doesnt see the light. if money is an issue, a simple facebook shout
[16:56] <duckxx> out would be appreciated. thx! sorry for the promo.
[16:56] <FloodBot1> duckxx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:57] <shurikrulik> hi, who had trouble with webcamera image fliping on notebook asus pls give the solv me ...
[16:58] <dors> thats strange thauriswulfa, usually if sound is working it keeps so,  maybe check basic things, cables, plugs, sound volume, is it flagged as 'mute' somewhere, things like that
[16:58] <escott> shurikrulik, you need to LD_PRELOAD
[16:58] <escott> shurikrulik, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=92cd13b8bb99b72b7e6604817d957f0d&t=1460790
[17:01] <blackcatnekonegr> wawowe, ubuntu cannot read the device anymore besides the "AX216 FLASH READER" thing, so is a bit late for that, to sum up the device was broken from day one, usb flash drives have no guaranty, every kind of format has ended bad, I even did a low lever format then created a Master boot record, but is useless, not not even gparted sees the device anymore. Sometimes one gets faulty hardware I guess.
[17:01] <mbucko> where do programs get installed in linux? is it /bin or /usr?
[17:01] <escott> mbucko, depends on if it is needed for boot
[17:01] <ceti331_> Can linux do multiple remote desktop connections (x servers) out of the box
[17:01] <ceti331_> across a network
[17:02] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: try fdisk
[17:02] <ceti331_> just like shing into a linux box
[17:02] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[17:02] <mbucko> escott, just a normal app
[17:02] <blackcatnekonegr> mbucko, usually bin, but linux programs use a lot of libraries so is hard to tell where all the files are, unless that distro uses a kind of "mac install"
[17:02] <escott> ceti331_, yes, but you have the role of client and server reversed. the server is the one with the display
[17:02] <escott> mbucko, then it is probably in /usr/bin
[17:02] <blackcatnekonegr> blackcatnekonegr, isn't fdisk a windows program?
[17:02] <mbucko> escott, what about application files?
[17:03] <blackcatnekonegr> oops
[17:03] <escott> mbucko, /usr/share for many
[17:04] <blackcatnekonegr> wawowe, isn't fdisk a windows program?, and what if I end formatting one of my hard disks using that command?
[17:04] <ceti331_> so lets say i have big desktop machine, and laptop; i would open an x-server on the Laptop, then ssh into the desktop to ask it to connect to the laptop x-server ? .. then the laptop can run native desktop programs on the desktop machine ?
[17:04] <escott> ceti331_, yes
[17:04] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: gnu has it's own fdisk
[17:04] <mbucko> blackcatnekonegr, how does mac install differ?
[17:04] <ceti331_> Can you get such an x-server under OSX
[17:04] <escott> ceti331_, yes
[17:05] <ceti331_> this is getting bette r
[17:05] <ceti331_> r
[17:05] <ceti331_> :)
[17:05] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: you should be able to tell that your looking at the right drive by the size etc
[17:05] <blackcatnekonegr> ceti331_, you want to use a kind of remote control or something like that?
[17:05] <ceti331_> yes
[17:05] <phraktal77> flumotion package is broken on precise
[17:05] <escott> ceti331_, i believe there is an x server for mac on the install cd
[17:05] <phraktal77> it starts, but once you start a worker, it bugs out
[17:05] <escott> ceti331_, the mac install cd that is
[17:05] <ceti331_> this might get convoluted..
[17:06] <bjorkintosh> i just bought a new pair of usb headphones with a mic.
[17:06] <ceti331_> specifically, i would like to use multiple screens  on the desktop, but use the laptop as an additional screen and wireless keyboard & mouse
[17:06] <bjorkintosh> 12.04 recognizes it, but there's no sound coming out of it at all.
[17:06] <bjorkintosh> yes, it's plugged in and turned on.
[17:06] <ceti331_> with synergy , plus xserver on the mac..
[17:06] <ceti331_> ?
[17:06] <bjorkintosh> the sound's instead coming out of the laptop's speaker.
[17:07] <escott> ceti331_, that wont work the applications on the laptop will be distinct from the desktop. they run in a different user session with a different window manager, and cannot be migrated from one to the other
[17:07] <gentle_peaceful> i have some problem with my ATI 6470.
[17:07] <blackcatnekonegr> wawowe, how I use this fdisk?
[17:07] <ceti331_> oh
[17:07] <bjorkintosh> why isn't it sending sound through the usb?
[17:07] <ceti331_> ok
[17:07] <gentle_peaceful> Anyone can help me
[17:07] <gentle_peaceful> thanks
[17:07] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: first type fdisk /dev/sdb, then it p
[17:07] <blackcatnekonegr> ceti331_, there are programs on linux to do remote control
[17:07] <ceti331_> escott: have you seen "air-display"
[17:08] <escott> ceti331_, no
[17:08] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: should show you the partition layout and size of the disk
[17:08] <ceti331_> "air-display" from mac to iPad is the most solid experience along these lines i've seen
[17:08] <ceti331_> but i would like it in reverse
[17:08] <bjorkintosh> wawowe, for sound?
[17:08] <bjorkintosh> you must be talking to blackcatnekonegr
[17:08] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: first type fdisk /dev/sdb, then it p
[17:08] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: should show you the partition layout and size of the disk
[17:08] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: wrong one sry
[17:09] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: check alsamixer to see if anything is muted
[17:09] <ceti331_> actually "AirDisplay" will do this from PC to Mac already
[17:09] <ceti331_> their is a Mac server for a PC client.
[17:09] <ceti331_> they've already said on their forums they wont do linux :(
[17:10] <blackcatnekonegr> wawowe, I used that command and only said ms dos mode is obsolete,
[17:10] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: didn't open the fdisk shell?
[17:11] <ceti331_> I've looked into other combinations - like using a small linux machine driving screen with a Synergy client, for additional screenspace form the Mac, but using Linux tools to edit content on the Mac.
[17:11] <escott> blackcatnekonegr, you can use the "parted" tool which understands gpt
[17:11] <Pici> wawowe: is blackcatnekonegr currently running linux?
[17:11] <blackcatnekonegr> wawowe, yes but is only text mode, and I see no info whatesoever of the hard disks
[17:11] <blackcatnekonegr> escott, gparted did not work
[17:11] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: type "p"
[17:11] <Pici> wawowe: nevermind
[17:11] <escott> ceti331_, you can run an xnest server in the background and then run your actual displays off the xnest but thats slower and more complicated
[17:11] <wawowe> Pici: yes
[17:11]  * gepatino is back (gone 00:51:54)
[17:12] <bjorkintosh> didn't make a difference wawowe.
[17:12] <ceti331_> there's many dimensions to this
[17:12] <blackcatnekonegr> wawowe, ; I am not gonna format my hard disk by mistake for a stupid faulty usb flash drive
[17:12] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: you will get a good look at it before you change things. no accidents
[17:13] <ceti331_> I have.. a fast Window PC: core i7, but 2 screens; a slower Linux PC, but 4 screens; a mac, can only drive one screen; a 'spare' nettop PC, windows & linux
[17:13] <donvito|2> how to install open ssh ?
[17:13] <blackcatnekonegr> wawowe, right now fdisk could be accesing my hard disk it says nothing whatsoever of what drive is accessing
[17:13] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: do you have multiple soundcards? run aplay -l to show them
[17:13] <ceti331_> perhaps i should just do one screen per device and synergy between them
[17:13] <ceti331_> and put my content on a NAS box
[17:13] <bjorkintosh> i think i do. the usb device is it's own card i think.
[17:13] <blackcatnekonegr> wawowe, so is the "p" command safe?
[17:13] <donvito|2> !openssh
[17:14] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: type "p" and hit enter. it doesn't do anything by itself
[17:14] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: p = print
[17:14] <blackcatnekonegr> wawowe, ok
[17:14] <bjorkintosh> yes definitely.
[17:14] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: w is the one that changes stuff
[17:14] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: w = write
[17:14] <blackcatnekonegr> wawowe,, usb flash drive is dead, end of story
[17:14] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: k
[17:14] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: type q to quit
[17:15] <blackcatnekonegr> wawowe,, I only see my hard disks, I guess that usb flash drive really was junk
[17:15] <wawowe> blackcatnekonegr: you may have opened the wrong drive
[17:15] <schreber> how do you unmount a mounted drive? I've tried sudo umount /dev/blah1 but I get a 'device is busy' message when clearly it's not.
[17:16] <wawowe> schreber: lsof | grep /dev/blah1
[17:16] <wawowe> schreber: or /mnt/blah1
[17:16] <wawowe> schreber: kill the process that's using it
[17:16] <blackcatnekonegr> schreber, first close any program, window that may be using the device, if that fails, try right click, "unmount" use "Safe unmount" if available
[17:17] <bjorkintosh> wawowe, how do i redirect the sound to my new sound card?
[17:18] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: pastebin the output of aplay -l and tell me which card you want to use
[17:18] <schreber> the lsof | grep /dev/blah1 didn't return anything neither did the it's alternative /mnt/blah1
[17:18] <escott> schreber, did you "cd" out of that folder
[17:19] <bjorkintosh> card 1: Headset [HP Digital Stereo Headset], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]  Subdevices: 1/1
[17:19] <bjorkintosh> that's the card i want to use ^
[17:19] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: k
[17:19] <escott> schreber, you can also issue a "dismount when possible" command which will prevent new processes from accessing the disk, but not fully unmounting
[17:19] <iLogical> My keyboard is a generic abnt 2 keyboard... I don't see my keyboard's brand anywhere in this list, what do I do:
[17:19] <iLogical> ?
[17:19] <schreber> how do I issue that command?
[17:19] <escott> iLogical, select a generic 104 keyboard then
[17:20] <blackcatnekonegr> schreber, if that does not work, see if the device is being written (Usually the light is on) and wait until it ends. If nothing seems to work, just shut down the system (By using linux, not manually) if you see any error messages during the shut down, try to virus scan the hard disk /usb flash drive and also scan for errors.
[17:20] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: put http://paste.ubuntu.com/1015105/ in ~/.asoundrc
[17:20] <schreber> it's an internal drive not external
[17:20] <blackcatnekonegr> iLogical, pick generic keyboard and manually set the language, keyboard setting.
[17:20] <iLogical> escott, thanks
[17:20] <escott> iLogical, umount -l, just be aware that doing so does not actually dismount the device so you cant unplug
[17:21] <escott> schreber, ^^ not iLogical
[17:21] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: and echo "autospawn = no" ~/.pulse/client.conf; killall pulseaudio
[17:21] <amelia_> Hej.. I forget what the left-hand-side launcher is called in Unity.. but I've just upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 and it no longer auto-hides.. how can I fix this?
[17:21] <blackcatnekonegr> iLogical, or pick ibm, then pick the closest to your keyboard layout
[17:21] <bjorkintosh> okay wawowe.
[17:21] <bjorkintosh> thanks. i'll try that.
[17:21] <card-board-box> !unfo
[17:21] <card-board-box> !info
[17:21] <Eagleman> I'm having an issue with windows supporting characters in file names, i currently have this script and since windows isnt supporting : and linux isnt allowing me to replace the : with ; OUTPUTFILE="/media/usbbackupdisk/configbackups/configbackup_$(date +%m-%d-%Y_%I:%M).tar.gz"
[17:22] <blackcatnekonegr> iLogical, some generic keyboards have problems with ubuntu, I had to switch mine
[17:22] <Eagleman> the : in _%I:%M
[17:22] <escott> Eagleman, \;
[17:22] <bootstrap> Hi, I'm having an external hd issue.  Only some of my folders are visible.  Anyone know why?  The folders are still there just not visible, ex: I can cd to /music in terminal
[17:22] <iLogical> hmm
[17:22] <escott> Eagleman, although I cannot understand what would compel you to put any of those characters in the filename
[17:22] <iLogical> with just worked very fine blackcatnekonegr
[17:23] <Eagleman> (date +%m-%d-%Y_%I/;%M) doesnt work
[17:23] <blackcatnekonegr> Eagleman, tried massive renaming the files in windows? or if you want to rename files in linux, "Purrr" while old, works well.
[17:23] <wawowe> bootstrap: may be corrupted
[17:23] <Pici> Eagleman: it would be \; not /;
[17:24] <wawowe> bootstrap: if it's fat16 or something like that
[17:24] <bootstrap> wawowe it's ntfs
[17:24] <Eagleman> Thanks Pici it worked
[17:24] <escott> Eagleman, for your own sanity I would strongly suggest %Y%m%d%I%M
[17:24] <blackcatnekonegr> iLogical, did you fix your keyboard problem?
[17:25] <Eagleman> And why is that escott
[17:25] <wawowe> bootstrap: don't know then, could try defragging it
[17:25] <iLogical> blackcatnekonegr, it asked to configure it to upgrade
[17:25] <Eagleman> What i have now looks better and is easier to read on windows
[17:25] <iLogical> it's working still
[17:25] <escott> Eagleman, because special characters in filenames are bad (as you are discovering) and because your current format does not sort correctly, but %Y%m%d does
[17:25] <iLogical> I guess we will see if it works after reboot ;) blackcatnekonegr
[17:26] <bootstrap> wawowe: yeah, I'm going to try now, just wanted to ask to see what others thought
[17:26] <wawowe> bootstrap: either way you should think about backing up as much as you can
[17:26] <Eagleman> It sorts well escott
[17:26] <bootstrap> wawowe: yeah thanks, I have it on dropbox and wuala already, so it isn't a huge deal
[17:28] <blackcatnekonegr> bootstrap, once you backup, try gparted, but be sure to know what are you doing, and whats linux version of the good old scandisk?
[17:28] <blackcatnekonegr> Hey thats a good one, what is linux scandisk?
[17:28] <escott> blackcatnekonegr, fsck
[17:29] <blackcatnekonegr> System-config-lvm, might try it....
[17:30] <blackcatnekonegr> I am getting tired of the old backup, delete hard disk and format after all.
[17:32] <zamba> what has happened to eggdrop in 12.04? it crashes now
[17:33] <zamba> big fat crash
[17:33] <zamba> http://pastie.org/3996591
[17:34] <donvito2> i installed open ssh server and client computer is connected and running but i cant connect from other pc via putty
[17:34] <donvito2> what im doing wrong?
[17:34] <BWorld> Hi there, what is the best place to look for help when upgrading to ubuntu 12.0.4 failed from 10.0.4 LTS ? The ubuntu machine is running as VM inside a Xen server,,
[17:34] <blackcatnekonegr> zamba, try the olde "Synaptic reinstall packages trick", and try again
[17:35] <BWorld> problem is that I cant even login to a root shell anymore
[17:35] <CoJaBo> Ok, so this machine had a dead CD drive and wont boot off of USB... Any ideas?
[17:35] <WarOfTheNerd> donvito, are you sure you haven't got a firewall running?
[17:35] <CoJaBo> I'm starting to remember why I haven't yet updated it from Jaunty :/
[17:35] <donvito2> well i have installed ubuntu 12.04 desktop
[17:35] <donvito2> does it have firewall by himself?
[17:35] <zamba> blackcatnekonegr: never heard about that trick?
[17:35] <WarOfTheNerd> donvito, on the openssh server is a firewall running?
[17:35] <wawowe> CoJaBo: what's your intention?
[17:35] <blackcatnekonegr> CoJaBo, can you plug in the hard disk to another machine?
[17:35] <zamba> blackcatnekonegr: care to elaborate?
[17:35] <dors> what the other pc says it gone wrong donvito2?
[17:36] <CoJaBo> wawowe: To install the latest version
[17:36] <donvito2> time out
[17:36] <_sjs> does anyone have any good guides for monitor calibration? I've got a samsung that looks great, but then I bought an Acer S230HL and the colors are WAY off. I've tried changing the monitor settings manually but it doesn't allow me to change RGB settings, so I'm trying to use the nvidia but I have no experience with hues/saturation/ brightness/contrast/etc so I have no idea what I'm doing
[17:36] <WarOfTheNerd> donvito, no it doesn't by default.  But your router might firewall between the two computers
[17:36] <CoJaBo> blackcatnekonegr: No, laptop drive, and my USB thing for that is busted
[17:36] <wawowe> CoJaBo: which version is jaunty
[17:36] <blackcatnekonegr> zamba, simply use Synaptic to reinstall the program you are having problems with
[17:36] <wawowe> CoJaBo: lsb_release -a
[17:36] <CoJaBo> wawowe: 9.something
[17:36] <zamba> blackcatnekonegr: already tried that
[17:36] <dors> can you ping the server from the pc donvito2?
[17:36] <donvito2> second
[17:37] <blackcatnekonegr> CoJaBo, can you boot any os in the laptop?
[17:37] <wawowe> CoJaBo: have you tried upgrading and failed?
[17:37] <falematte> i get this error when i launch webcamstudio http://pastebin.com/j0NtWbcX what can i do? Hellpp :D
[17:37] <donvito2> no i got request time out
[17:37] <blackcatnekonegr> CoJaBo, cause if you can boot windows, simply use an iso and daemon tools,
[17:37] <dors> ok, so your problem is not ssl
[17:37] <CoJaBo> wawowe: The package manager is totally effed
[17:37] <dors> but other thing, prly infrastructure
[17:37] <escott> !ufw | donvito
[17:38] <CoJaBo> blackcatnekonegr: It has Jaunty on it now
[17:38] <wawowe> CoJaBo: how effed? what does apt-get -f install do?
[17:38] <shaneo> quantal dailys hate ubuntu tweak :(
[17:38] <CoJaBo> wawowe: Fails with an error saying the database is broken
[17:38] <blackcatnekonegr>  donvito, you could use Gufw, as it has a gui and is easy to use
[17:38] <bjorkintosh> didn't work wawowe
[17:38] <bjorkintosh> still no sound.
[17:39] <wawowe> CoJaBo: apt-get update
[17:39] <blackcatnekonegr>  CoJaBo, install a program that can mount isos and try installing from the iso
[17:39] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: apt-get install mplayer
[17:39] <bjorkintosh> i've got mplayer.
[17:39] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=1.0 mp3.mp3
[17:39] <CoJaBo> wawowe: As I said, I've tried numerous times to get it to work. Thats actually the only reason I even need to upgrade, to fix that issue.
[17:40] <SnowmanX11> Hi there! Is there anybody here who made this soundcard work under 12.04? >>>  Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
[17:40] <wawowe> CoJaBo: apt-get update shows the same thing?
[17:40] <CoJaBo> blackcatnekonegr: I need to boot from it tho, not run from inside the existing
[17:40] <wawowe> CoJaBo: it should update the database
[17:40] <bjorkintosh> that works. however, how do i make the browser use this device?
[17:40] <CoJaBo> wawowe: Any attempt to do anything errors out.
[17:41] <bjorkintosh> 'cause that sends the sound right to the speaker... defeating the purpose of my purchase.
[17:41] <wawowe> CoJaBo: pastebin both errors
[17:41] <wawowe> CoJaBo: from apt-get update and apt-get -f install
[17:41] <blackcatnekonegr> CoJaBo, ok usb and cd romdrive are busted, you cannot plug in the hard disk to another machine, I guess you don't have a floppy drive device?
[17:41] <CoJaBo> wawowe: Even if I get it working, in the event it fails, I'd be back to square one, only with a totally broken machine...
[17:41] <wawowe> bjorkintosh: restart your browser if you didn't before
[17:42] <Bulletrulz> im pissed off at people who are worshiping steve jobs
[17:42] <Jordan_U> !ot | Bulletrulz
[17:42] <blackcatnekonegr> I am pissed at people not remembering the other guy who died
[17:42] <wawowe> CoJaBo: it's up to you
[17:42] <CoJaBo> blackcatnekonegr: I don't suppose theres a way to get Grub to boot off either the USB CD drive or a thumbdrive if i can find one?
[17:43] <wawowe> CoJaBo: grub can boot both cd and usb
[17:43] <adamkhan> hello world :P
[17:43] <t4nk024> i need help
[17:43] <weetabeex> don't we all...
[17:43] <adamkhan> :)
[17:43] <t4nk024> with my admin password
[17:43] <adamkhan> shoot t4nk024
[17:43] <adamkhan> ready :)
[17:43] <CoJaBo> wawowe: How
[17:43] <TheLordOfTime> !root | t4nk024
[17:44] <t4nk024> any one can help
[17:44] <TheLordOfTime> t4nk024: in case that's the admin password you were referencing
[17:44] <TheLordOfTime> !anyone | t4nk024
[17:44] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Does your BIOS support booting from USB?
[17:44] <CoJaBo> Jordan_U: Evidently not.
[17:44] <blackcatnekonegr> CoJaBo, try creating a small particion, install linux there, then boot from it, then format the bigger particion, install linux there and... wait, I am even making sence?
[17:45] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Do you have a reliable internet connection which you can access via ethernet?
[17:45] <CoJaBo> Jordan_U: Yeh
[17:45] <t4nk024> i need to rest the password from the shal from the guest
[17:45] <wawowe> CoJaBo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[17:46] <wawowe> t4nk024: explain
[17:46] <CoJaBo> wawowe: This is Grub1 tho
[17:46] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Then I would recommend configuring your existing grub legacy install to boot the Ubuntu 12.04 netboot installer. It will run completely from RAM so it can install to the hard drive it was initially loaded from. If it fails during install you might be left with a completely unbootable system though.
[17:46] <jfroebe> anyone know of a way to install ubuntu 12.04 remotely?  I currently have remote access (via logmein) to a windows box that needs to be rebuilt to ubuntu 12.04 - I do not have physical access to the machine.  Win7 would be wiped from the box.
[17:46] <blackcatnekonegr> CoJaBo, do not even try it with wifi!
[17:46] <t4nk024> the usdo password was "password"
[17:47] <t4nk024> i change it
[17:47] <t4nk024> to some thing else
[17:47] <CoJaBo> Jordan_U: Are there instructions for that?
[17:47] <adamkhan> well
[17:47] <adamkhan> maybe
[17:47] <adamkhan> u should ask the owner :P
[17:47] <t4nk024> i need to rest the admin password
[17:47] <Pici> !enter
[17:47] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Not that I know of, but it's pretty easy and I can explain it to you.
[17:48] <CoJaBo> Jordan_U: Well, how?
[17:48] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: is the admin user the same as yours?
[17:48] <t4nk024> i need to take to one man
[17:48] <t4nk024> so i understand
[17:48] <wawowe> CoJaBo: there's a way, don't remeber tho, fastest solution is get the kernel and initrd from tinycore and boot that
[17:48] <t4nk024> talkto
[17:48] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Is this a 32 bit only machine?
[17:49] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: is the admin user the same as yours?
[17:49] <t4nk024> yes
[17:49] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: And if so, do you know if it supports PAE?
[17:49] <wawowe> t4nk024: can you boot a livecd?
[17:49] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: do you remember your password?
[17:49] <t4nk024> yes
[17:49] <CoJaBo> Its 64bit
[17:49] <wawowe> t4nk024: boot livecd and mount the partition
[17:50] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: so it's easy - what Ubuntu version are you using?
[17:50] <wawowe> t4nk024: edit /etc/shadow
[17:50] <t4nk024> 12
[17:50] <monika> hi
[17:50] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: clock your name at the top right and then click user Accounts at the bottom
[17:51] <t4nk024> what about my data
[17:51] <monika> my flash in opera not firefox isn't working on the system ... any ideas why not, how to debug it?
[17:51] <monika> I'm running ubuntu 10.10
[17:51] <CoJaBo> Jordan_U: ?
[17:51] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: if you only reset or change your password - nothing else changes
[17:51] <t4nk024> are they going to be erase
[17:51] <monika> I tried reinstalling, aslo dowloading the .so from the adobe site directly, but none of the approaches work
[17:51] <amh345> is is apache2.2-common required to run apachectl 2.4?
[17:51] <iLogical> I just upgraded to 12.04, can I have gnome back? :(
[17:52] <monika> so obviously I need a debug of somekind
[17:52] <escott> !notunity | iLogical
[17:52] <t4nk024> ok , i will thanks
[17:52] <blackcatnekonegr> monika, tried to uninstall and then reinstall it?
[17:52] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: this desn't change the file permissions
[17:52] <monika> blackcatnekonegr, yeah that was one of the first things I tried
[17:52] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: you just click the stars on the Password line and change it
[17:52] <wawowe> monika: download the lib and put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[17:53] <blackcatnekonegr> monika, what version of opera are you using?
[17:53] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: The first thing you need to do is download the netboot kernel and initrd from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/precise/ but to know which to download you need to know if your computer has a 64 bit processor (just like you need to know with any OS installation).
[17:53] <iLogical> escott, hmm gnome 3 seems so brand new and stuff, I want it :)
[17:53] <t4nk024> Penguincsc can i have one window just with you
[17:53] <t4nk024> not to all the room
[17:54] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: why?
[17:54] <monika> wawowe, I did that, the plugin is detected, but flash doesn't work on youtube
[17:54] <monika> blackcatnekonegr, 11.62
[17:54] <t4nk024> too many line to skip untel
[17:54] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: We are all helpful penguins around here ;-)
[17:54] <t4nk024> i find you
[17:54] <wawowe> monika: does it work one sites other than youtube?
[17:54] <blackcatnekonegr> monika, does not work at all or you get errors?
[17:54] <t4nk024> its all about recognaise
[17:55] <iLogical> !unity shell
[17:55] <Penguincsc> monika: did you make sure all browser windows ()also other than opera) are closed?
[17:55] <adamkhan> monika, even google chrome browser doesnt open fflash?
[17:55] <Penguincsc> monika: run htop in console
[17:55] <monika> blackcatnekonegr, wawowe the  black region where the video should be is showing (there's isn't an error that the flash is missing), but no video nor audio
[17:55] <monika> penghuang, yeah of course :)
[17:55] <monika> wawowe, no it doesn't work anywheee
[17:56] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: what other language do you speak?
[17:56] <blackcatnekonegr> monika, it can be a missing package, a broken file or a problem with your video card, you said it works on firefox?
[17:56] <adamkhan> monika, after debugging, have u logged out then logged in again??
[17:56] <adamkhan> sometimes its that
[17:56] <t4nk024> my firt language is arabic
[17:56] <monika> blackcatnekonegr, it doesn't work anywhere
[17:56] <t4nk024> i need one chanal
[17:57] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Do you understand what I mean when I ask if the machine has a 64 bit CPU?
[17:57] <Penguincsc> monika: did it ever worked or did it break after an upgrade?
[17:57] <monika> it broke somehow
[17:57] <monika> how to install an older version?
[17:57] <monika> how to check the current version?
[17:57] <wawowe> monika: if you remove the lib from ~/.mozilla/plugins and restart opera is it still a black box?
[17:57] <monika> and I'm in console only, so don't use synaptics
[17:57] <blackcatnekonegr> monika, I bet is a problem with your video card, you will need to update your video card driver, had the same problem before, good luck, you will need it.
[17:57] <CoJaBo> Jordan_U: It had a 64bit OS on it. Yeh, I'm pretty certain its 64bit
[17:57] <bjorkintosh> use the X server, monika
[17:58] <monika> wawowe, no it's missing plugin - I know what I'm doing :)
[17:58] <OerHeks> flash does not work in console
 i need one chanal
[17:58] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: answer me on the private msg
[17:58] <wawowe> monika: run ldd ~/.mozilla/plugins/*
[17:59] <t4nk024> how ???
[17:59] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Great. Then download these files: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/linux http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/initrd.gz
[17:59] <wawowe> monika: and look for missing library dependencies
[17:59] <CoJaBo> And do what with them
[17:59] <blackcatnekonegr> monika, try searching topics about your video card driver on linux and check the wiki, if there is a know issue, it will probably have it, make no mistake is your video card. let me guess NVIDIA?
[17:59] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: I'll get to that, please give me time to type :)
[18:00] <monika> blackcatnekonegr, no it's ATI
[18:01] <blackcatnekonegr> monika, try updating your video card driver on linux, on some cards generics cause that flash problem.
[18:01] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Create a directory in /boot/ for them so that they don't get confused with other kernels/initrds with "sudo mkdir /boot/ubuntu-installer/" and copy the two files into that directory with "sudo cp ...".
[18:01] <t4nk024> ""answer me on the private msg"" how ???
[18:01] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: look around the chat window, you should see my nick name somewhere
[18:01] <Bhavesh> I tried installing Additional Drivers - Graphics card driver [Recommended], then I did a restart and my entire screen was black. I clicked around and then came up my wallpaper, then the right click menu. I had to remove my graphics driver to get it to normal. In Ubuntu 12.04
[18:01] <monika> btw: I have flashplugin-nonfree installed
[18:02] <oCean> !afk > ray1claw_afk
[18:02] <t4nk024> i am using : http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=t4nk...&channels=ubuntu&prompt=1#
[18:02] <Penguincsc> monika: try right-clicking the black window and removing the 3d acceleration on the settings
[18:02] <CoJaBo> Jordan_U: If the install trashes /boot/, then, I'd be Totally Screwed.
[18:02] <t4nk024> there is no option there
[18:02] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: install xchat then
[18:02] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: it's easier
[18:02] <iLogical> I runned a command with alt+f2 on unity to install gnome shell and I don't know if it's running
[18:02] <t4nk024> i cant i am guest
[18:02] <wawowe> monika: you don't need to have that installed since you put flash in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[18:03] <t4nk024> i cant i am guest
[18:03] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Correct. Once you've started the install there is no turning back, it either succeeds or you have an unbootable system (or there is a chance you'll have a somewhat bootable system which can be recovered from).
[18:03] <t4nk024> i have no sudo password
[18:03] <Bhavesh> So will I ever be able to use a graphics card drive on Ubuntu 12.04?
[18:03] <blackcatnekonegr> monika, the best option is to use the proprietary driver ATI has for linux or ubuntu, if there is an ubuntu specific version use that one. I had  a similar problem with a different video card.
[18:04] <Penguincsc> t4nk024: so you should look around the web interface and see how you open a private chat window
[18:04] <CoJaBo> Jordan_U: Yeh, I can't do that then :/
[18:04] <blackcatnekonegr> CoJaBo, the best option is to take the laptop to a tech guy, make him install linux for you, they do have the right cables and devices to read a laptop hard disk.
[18:05] <blackcatnekonegr> CoJaBo, the bad thing is, it costs money.
[18:05] <Bhavesh> I guess compiz doesn't start or something like that
[18:05] <t4nk024> i have another account but it login and right a way logout why
[18:05] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: what are you trying to do?
[18:05] <CoJaBo> blackcatnekonegr: I could probably buy a new one for cheaper than paying someone to use one, its just that I only have today to do this :/
[18:06] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Install Precise on a machine with no CD drive
[18:06] <t4nk024> there is no password recwaired to login
[18:06] <ha1dfo> hi all. What's the proper way to install sun-java-6 on ubuntu 1204?
[18:06] <Bhavesh> So is the recommended driver for Ubuntu 12.04 bugged...?
[18:07] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: do you have a USB pendrive?
[18:07] <escott> Bhavesh, oracle no longer allows ubuntu to distributed sun java
[18:07] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Nope
[18:07] <Bhavesh> escott: I guess ha1dfo asked the question about sun java
[18:08] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Since you only have one hard drive there is pretty much nothing you can do to install Ubuntu which won't involve some risk of making that drive unbootable. Even creating a new partition on the same drive and bootstrapping from there carries some risk. I think my solution is the least risk because it's the simplest, it's a standard installation using the netboot installer with nothing fancy to make it less reliable.
[18:08] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: can you get one?
[18:08] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: I have a USB CD drive and SD card; it boots from neither of these.
[18:08] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: All you need is at least 2GB
[18:08] <t4nk024> thanks and bye
[18:08] <ha1dfo> escott, so basically if i need that I have to download sun's binary one?
[18:08] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: what's the laptop model?
[18:08] <donvito2> is it possible to install teamviewer in ubuntu via terminal?
[18:09] <ha1dfo> thanks Bhav :)
[18:09] <blackcatnekonegr> Bhavesh, there is not such a thing as the perfect generic driver, if you have a proprietary video card use the proprietary video card driver unless card is a generic.
[18:09] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Not sure if it will even boot from it- I've never seen a machine that boots from neither a USB CD drive nor SD
[18:09] <svm_invictvs> You're going to laugh at me for asking this...
[18:09] <mcb_1> donvito2: Yes, but you have to download de .deb and install it with dpkg.
[18:09] <donvito2> okeyy
[18:09] <donvito2> thanks
[18:10] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Inspiron 1521
[18:10] <escott> Bhavesh, sorry, ha1dfo, yes
[18:10] <svm_invictvs> I downloaded a binary from the web, trying to run it.  I get bash: ./foo.bin: No such file or directory
[18:10] <svm_invictvs> This is despite the fact that file is right there
[18:10] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: I used an SD card to install Ubuntu on my cd-less netbook
[18:10] <blackcatnekonegr> Bhavesh, both ATi and NVIDIA are know to have problems with ubuntu generic drivers
[18:10] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: try this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[18:10] <Rud_> svm_invictvs: chmod a+x foo.bin
[18:10] <svm_invictvs> patrick@ubuntu:~$ ./server924_linux32.bin
[18:10] <svm_invictvs> -bash: ./server924_linux32.bin: No such file or directory
[18:10] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Yeh, I've done that on my netbook before I got my CD drive. Neither work on this machine tho.
[18:11] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: You can use the SD card with a special adapter
[18:11] <Jordan_U> svm_invictvs: The file which isn't found is the standard 32 bit C library that the binary depends on but which you haven't installed yet on your primarily 64 bit system.
[18:11] <Bhavesh> blackcatnekonegr: So what am I supposed to do if I want a video card driver?
[18:11] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: It has an internal SD
[18:11] <Bhavesh> blackcatnekonegr: Well I have a Nvidia GeForce video card. It was supported earlier on Ubuntu 11.10 but not now.
[18:11] <svm_invictvs> Jordan_U: AH
[18:11] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: You mean SSD?
[18:11] <svm_invictvs> -rwxrwxr-x 1 patrick patrick 433777820 May 30 11:07 server924_linux32.bin
[18:11] <blackcatnekonegr> Bhavesh, install the proprietary one  that the company has for linux
[18:11] <AndroUser> Hey I need help too
[18:11] <svm_invictvs> Jesus fucking christ, why doesn't it tell me that?
[18:11] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Built-in reader
[18:12] <Bhavesh> blackcatnekonegr: ok ty.
[18:12] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: why won't it boot?
[18:12] <Jordan_U> !language | svm_invictvs
[18:12] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: No idea.
[18:12] <AndroUser> What should I do for a input not supported when I cant even see the screen?
[18:12] <CoJaBo> It boots the fricking netbook just fine.
[18:12] <lelamal> !language | svm_invictvs
[18:12] <svm_invictvs> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs?
[18:13] <svm_invictvs> Jordan_U: Thanks.  Sorry for the f-bomb
[18:13] <escott> svm_invictvs, with multiarch you probably dont need ia32-libs
[18:13] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: I used my desktop Ubuntu to create the startup disk on an SD card, then I inserted this card in my Netbooks card reader and booteted the Live Ubunt from it
[18:13] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: And then I installed
[18:14] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: all you need is to tell it to boot from the card
[18:14] <svm_invictvs> escott: hm?
[18:14] <blackcatnekonegr> Bhavesh, you can install the old Ubuntu 11.10 alongside the new version, that’s the best option for the moment, or just keep  Ubuntu 11.10 in a different particion, that's what I am doing.
[18:14] <svm_invictvs> escott: Oh, I didn't install multiarch, I just installed 64 bit server.
[18:14] <escott> svm_invictvs, 11.10 and 12.04 allow you to install package:i386 instead of ia32-libs
[18:15] <AndroUser> All i did was downloaded it to a seprate drive I cant see the thing to select users?
[18:15] <Jon--atwork> I'm working on a box where I do not have access to modify /etc/network/interfaces but I do have sudo access to ifconfig and ip. Can I create an interface with the same functionality as that conf file using these tools? (yes/no will suffice I can read man pages and figure it out myself)
[18:15] <wawowe> Jon--atwork: yes
[18:15] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: It's set to boot from "CD, then USB devices, then HDD"
[18:15] <svm_invictvs> escott: What's ridiculous is all I want to run is the Oracle WebLogic 9.2 installer.  Then once it's installed I'll run it in the 64 bit JVM rathr han the one it provides -_-
[18:15] <svm_invictvs> escott: And yes, Weblogic 9.2 is old....really old like 8 years old.
[18:15] <wawowe> Jon--atwork: you won't be able to do things like load iptables rules though
[18:15] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: not enough
[18:16] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Ahh, so it at least claims to support booting from USB. That's a good sign.
[18:16] <CoJaBo> Same happens if I select USB from the boot menu; it just immediately boots from HDD.
[18:16] <Jon--atwork> wawowe, That would be using ip right? I'm more familiar with BSD, where there is 'ifconfig create'. Ubuntu seems to not have that, at least its not documented
[18:16] <Marko> heloo
[18:16] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: I press the F12key to get to the boot menu or the Esc on my Asus EeePC
[18:16] <eggbert> What is wrong with the ubuntu download page? There is no link or no way I can see to download older version. (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server)
[18:16] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Yeh, tried that too
[18:16] <Marko> I have a problem with cron job... :(
[18:16] <gohkesh> Hi Marko. Whats up?
[18:16] <jgrevich> I created a new raid , rebooted, and I don't get any feedback as to the rebuild speed (which I usually do). Any idea why?  /proc/mdstat says, "md126 : active (auto-read-only) raid5 sdr[5] sdp[2] sdo[1] sdn[0] sdq[3]  3907045376 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 512k chunk, algorithm 2 [5/4] [UUUU_]
[18:17] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: when you get to the boot menu it lists all devices - where you choose the SD card
[18:17] <Marko> Problem is that i do not to do with it
[18:17] <wawowe> Jon--atwork: in that case yes, if you've got sudo access with iptables
[18:17] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: it might show up as a USB-HDD
[18:17] <jgrevich> mdadm -D does show, "5      65       16        4      spare rebuilding   /dev/sdr", but again, there's no rate anywhere to estimate the time remaining.
[18:17] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: It lists only "cd, hdd, usb devices, and pxe"; selecting any of them does not give a second level of choices.
[18:17] <wawowe> Jon--atwork: i never use ip so i'm not sure what it's capable of
[18:18] <wawowe> Jon--atwork: but glancing at the man page it looks a lot like iptables
[18:18] <Shant> Anyone heard of issues where logging in on one screen worked fine, but if the login box was on another screen it crashed?
[18:18] <wawowe> Jon--atwork: and there is no ifconfig create
[18:18] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: Does the BIOS has a specific setting to enable or disable booting from removable media?
[18:19] <AndroUser> Hey can I please get help
[18:19] <gohkesh> I've got to pee, I'll be back in a minute
[18:19] <wawowe> Jon--atwork: do something like: ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.3 broadcast 10.0.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 up; route add default gw 10.0.0.1
[18:19] <eggbert> Anyone know how to download older < 12.04 version of ubuntu?
[18:19] <escott> !help | AndroUser
[18:19] <zanberdo> jgama, watch -n1 cat /proc/mdstat
[18:20] <Pici> eggbert: You can download any supported release from this url: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[18:20] <Jon--atwork> wawowe, why the heck would I need iptables to make a VLAN?
[18:20] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Just checked, and no; also, USB devices isn't actually listed in the boot menu, only the BIOS boot order setting.
[18:20] <Shant> eggbert: you could downlaod the ISO, burn a DVD and rn a clean install?
[18:20] <Jon--atwork> wawowe, I want to create i/fs vlan1 and vlan2 with vlan_raw_device eth0 and some static address
[18:20] <_numbers> i cant find audio controls in xfce ubuntu 12.04
[18:20] <jgrevich> zanberdo: I assume that was meant for me :).. Should it eventually show a rate, my proc/mdstat still looks the same as what I mentioned above
[18:20] <amh345> is it possible to upgrade to apache 2.4 from 2.2 or is it pretty much a clean install?  im having some serious difficulties getting 2.4 running and i think it's because of 2.2
[18:20] <wawowe> Jon--atwork: you wouldn't. didn't know how far your plans went
[18:20] <blackcatnekonegr> eggbert, yes try the torrents
[18:20] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Can you get a USB drive of some sort? That sounds like your best bet at the moment.
[18:20] <svm_invictvs> Hm, Jordan_U ... installing i386 and still no dice
[18:20] <_numbers> the gnome-sound-applet   doesn't allow me to open the sound configuration area anymore since i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04
[18:21] <amh345> it's crashed my server, so ive had to use an old image and start this process all over again.  any help would be appreciated.
[18:21] <_numbers> how do i find the sound settings? i want to switch from desktop speakers to usb headset
[18:21] <svm_invictvs> sudo apt-get install i386 right?
[18:21] <eggbert> Joy.. I wonder if we could get releases.ubuntu.com linked to from the downloads page? Sad that I have to get on here to find it
[18:21] <CoJaBo> Jordan_U: Only one I have is busted :/
[18:21] <jgrevich> Shouldn't I also see mdadm rebuilding in iotop?
[18:21] <Pici> eggbert: most people don't want or need to download an old release.
[18:21] <wawowe> Jon--atwork: you'll be able to do that
[18:21] <Shant> eggbert: google often helps...
[18:21] <eggbert> blackcatnekonegr: I can't torrent through the proxy at work
[18:21] <blackcatnekonegr> I suggested that using "list gives a list in pm to where to download ubuntu releases
[18:21] <eggbert> Shant: Yep... google works great in spite of a website with no navigation of its own
[18:22] <blackcatnekonegr> eggbert, http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[18:22] <Shant> Does anyone have any clue what could be causing my issue with the screens?
[18:22] <zanberdo> jgrevich, yes, that was meant for you.  No, sorry, I don't believe mdstat will report an actual recovery rate, however, by watching the file every sec you should get a general idea by noting the increasing '>' (I believe that's the char used to indicate process, I'm not rebuilding a bad array atm)
[18:22] <eggbert> The ubutnu website really sucks
[18:23] <CoJaBo> This sucks. :/
[18:23] <blackcatnekonegr> Shant, have you updated the video driver to the proprietary one?
[18:23] <eggbert> thanks for the link though guys/gals
[18:23] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: Just read the >Owners Manual for your laptop
[18:24] <jgrevich> zanberdo: I just stopped the raid and recreated it. that seemed to work. Now i have this in mdstat, "[>....................]  recovery =  0.0% (183872/976761344) finish=708.0min speed=22984K/sec"
[18:24] <eggbert> But if the web designer for ubuntu.com is on here I want to ream them out... terrible user experience
[18:24] <Shant> blackcatnekonegr: not that I know of but the update manager does not have anyhting?
[18:24] <TheLordOfTime> eggbert: the designers aren't here :P
[18:24] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: I don't even have it.. Wheres the instructions on creating the USB stick, isn't there a script to run or something? Guess I need to buy one then..
[18:25] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: did you create an Ubuntu SD card?
[18:25] <TheLordOfTime> eggbert: if you have any complaints, i believe there's a contact location for them... just dont remember what it is
[18:25] <falematte> i get this error when i launch webcamstudio http://pastebin.com/j0NtWbcX what can i do? Hellpp :D
[18:25] <blackcatnekonegr>  Shant, first update the video card driver with the last proprietary one, then if that does not fix the problem, come here and ask again.
[18:25] <jgrevich> zanberdo: before mine didn't' even have the [>….] bit
[18:25] <zanberdo> jgrevich, ah, yes, that looks familiar. The 'watch -n1' preceding 'cat /proc/mdstat' should provide continue updates to the output and should reflect the recovery (in your example currently 0.0%) as well as the '>>>......' as the recover proceeds.  If however the rate has not changed then perhaps mdadm is hung?
[18:25] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: What are you trying to boot Ubuntu from?
[18:25] <eggbert> schadenfreude!
[18:26] <jgrevich> zanberdo: seems to be working now.. .Thanks!
[18:26] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins1521/en/om_en/pdf/RT722A02MR.pdf
[18:26] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: A long while back, for the netbook. I need to make a newer one with the latest version.
[18:26] <zanberdo> jgrevich, no problem. Glad to help
[18:26] <Ek|mu5> Hi all, just want to know how to hide/remove real name from switch user on the panel
[18:26] <amh345> there's no assistance anyone can give on this apache stuff?
[18:26] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: That's for sure
[18:26] <jgrevich> zanberdo: still mystified why it stopped rebuilding after I rebooted previously. but i won't' worry about it unless it happens agin
[18:26] <LazyTown> What is the best IRC client?
[18:26] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: How? For some reason I cant find it
[18:26] <AndroUser> Hey help for me?
[18:26] <zanberdo> jgrevich, always a good idea ... don't fix it if it ain't broke. :)
[18:26] <jgrevich> :)
[18:27] <zanberdo> amh345, you might try #apache
[18:27] <amh345> apache tell me to go here
[18:27] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: some laptops (like the Asus U33) do not boot from the SD card reader
[18:27] <amh345> because it's distro specific
[18:27] <blackcatnekonegr> for apache help, go to  #httpd, thank you.
[18:27] <zanberdo> LazyTown, the one that works for you I would guess.
[18:27] <zanberdo> amh345, do you have a question then?
[18:27] <LazyTown> zanberdo, just wanting a recommendation, I'm sure they all work... for everybody.
[18:28] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: I'm going  to buy a new thumbdrive, but I need the instructions on how to set that up; Google is being useless
[18:28] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: buy a dirt cheap 2GB USB stick and follow the instructions on the link I sent you
[18:28] <blackcatnekonegr> LazyTown, that depends, what you need it for? if you want something simple use Pidgim, if you want something conplex use xchat
[18:28] <CoJaBo> What link?
[18:28] <zanberdo> LazyTown, I happen to use xchat for gui and iirc for cli
[18:28] <LazyTown> Thanks guys.
[18:28] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[18:28] <fl1bbl3> LazyTown irssi for me
[18:28] <escott> AndroUser, stop asking for help and describe (in detail) your problem
[18:29] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: do you have a working Ubuntu somewhwre?
[18:29] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: I don't have a windows machine..
[18:29] <amh345> zanberdo: so many questions.  my entire upgrade failed. so i've had to start from square one.   currently running ubuntu 12 server.  apache 2.2 is setup and running. but i have to upgrade to 2.4. 2.2 was installed via apt-get package manager but 2.4 isnt avail with apt-get yet.  so im having some serious issues.
[18:29] <CoJaBo> I thought there was just a script to run, all I'm turning up is a long series oof instructinns for very old versions
[18:29] <blackcatnekonegr> LazyTown, get pidgim anyway just in case, sometimes it can work while xchat does not, I use both.
[18:29] <AndroUser> Can i get help with 11.10
[18:29] <i2out3r> Hey fellas - quick question, how are run levels managed in 12.04?
[18:29] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: even better, any other Ubuntu machine?
[18:29] <Pici> amh345: We don't package apache2.4 for any of our releases. Why do you need to 'upgrade' to 2.4?
[18:30] <amh345> when i last tried it befre the crash apachectl was asking for " Command 'apachectl' from package 'apache2.2-common' (main)"
[18:30] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: did you check out the link?
[18:30] <amh345> Pici, PCI compliance requires it. heres a snippet from the findings "Apache HTTP Server versions released prior to version 2.4.2 place a
[18:30] <amh345> directory (with a name length of 0) in the LD_LIBRARY_PATH."
[18:30] <LazyTown> thanks blackcatnekonegr
[18:30] <blackcatnekonegr> amh345, you will have to use manual install or wait until that version becomes available
[18:30] <amh345> opps. two lines. sorry
[18:30] <i2out3r> I notice 12.04 defaults to run level 2, but how would I get an equivalent redhat run level 3 boot up?
[18:31] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: The windows one? Or did you post one for linux?
[18:31] <iLogical> !notunity
[18:31] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: That was for windows. What Linux do you have that's usable?
[18:31] <CoJaBo> Quite a few.
[18:32] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: is this better: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[18:32] <gohkesh> Does one simply walk into Mordor?
[18:32] <Pici> amh345: let me check something, be just a minite.
[18:32] <SuperKay> how many DNS servers are in the world? What is ICANN? How NAT/DHCP/ARP works? How ISP works? How does the internet work? POP, IMAP, SPF (Sender Policy Framework), what are this things? etc etc etc..... Is there any book where one can learn all this stuff? :)
[18:32] <escott> !runlevel | i2out3r
[18:32] <blackcatnekonegr> CoJaBo, try lubuntu
[18:32] <BedMan> gohkesh: well... the hobbits did
[18:32] <zanberdo> amh345, here is a very broad brushed suggestion but is by no means expected to be the 'right' answer: since you are looking to install apache from a source other than the package manager you will want to first be sure you have completely removed apache from the server.  Once apache has been removed you will then need to find a suitable source from which you can install apach 2.4.  My suggestion is to go to the apache website an
[18:32] <zanberdo> d research how to install this version for your distro. If there is a ppa, install the ppa and download/install the appropriate release. If not, follow the steps for installing from source, baring in mind that your distro may require some 'tweaks'. At that point you should be able to get help from #http
[18:32] <amh345> blackcatnekonegr: that is part of my problem. i did a manual install. but there were issues like  Command 'apachectl' from package 'apache2.2-common' (main) when i tried to fire it up.  this was AFTER i removed apache 2.2
[18:33] <Eagleman> I want to be able to run virtual machines on my ubuntu 12.04 server and connect from them remotly how do i configure this from the command line?
[18:33] <i2out3r> escott: So there is no way of booting CLI multi user in ubuntu?
[18:33] <blackcatnekonegr>  amh345, well, I suggest the old "delete and try again"
[18:33] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: you need to install a Headless Virtualbox Server
[18:33] <amh345> zanberdo: i've done all that. but still came across dependancy errors that google turned up nothing for.      let me ask this. is apt-get --purge remove apache2 the correct way from removing apache2 from the server?
[18:34] <iLogical> I have gnome shell installed, how do I turn it on as default?
[18:34] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Huh, I was hoping I'd be able to run it from the mounted ISO or something.. I don't have another 64-bit machine.
[18:34] <genii-around> SuperKay: As intriguiing as those questions are, they are not really Ubuntu support questions
[18:35] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: This should work on 12.04 too: http://www.howtoforge.com/vboxheadless-running-virtual-machines-with-virtualbox-4.0-on-a-headless-ubuntu-10.10-server
[18:35] <zanberdo> amh345, yes, that is the correct approach to remove any installed package. Though to be honest, I typically follow that up with 'sudo aptitude purge ~c' which (if you use aptitude) will purge all config files as well.  i think there is an apt equivalent but I don't recall it (as I tend to use aptitude)
[18:35] <amh345> Pici, ok thank you.  any info you can find would be greatly appreciated.   im going nuts here.   i've done the build.  i've done the install all went well. except it wouldnt run without tons of errors.
[18:35] <Eagleman> Penguincsc i've also read about kvm, should that work to?
[18:35] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: you need to download the ISO for 12.04
[18:35] <AndroUser> Hey im having trouble too
[18:35] <blackcatnekonegr> amh345, for apache help, go to  #httpd, thank you.
[18:35] <amh345> zanberdo: ok i will try that again
[18:35] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: I have it already.
[18:36] <BedMan> amh345: what kind of errors?
[18:36] <amh345> blackcatnekonegr: they are telling me to go here since it's distro specific, thank you
[18:36] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: VirtualBox is the simplest
[18:36] <zanberdo> !ask | AndroUser
[18:36] <AndroUser> My ubuntu only boots up with a black screen and input not supported
[18:36] <BedMan> amh345: it could all be path related, btw...
[18:36] <Berto> Hi - I want to install phpmyadmin but NOT install Apache.  I use nginx.  How can I do this to avoid dependencies?
[18:36] <Eagleman> Ok, thanks alot Penguincsc
[18:36] <thys> hi
[18:36] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: what version of Ubuntu do you have?
[18:36] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Several different versions
[18:36] <thys> how do I backup my phpadmin files through the terminal?
[18:36] <CoJaBo> Does it matter which i use..?
[18:37] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: you can google for "virtualbox vs. kvm"
[18:37] <amh345> BedMan:  i had to pull a new image. so im about to start from scratch. but i still have the errors on screen.  for example sudo /usr/local/apache2/bin/ apachectrl start returned  Command 'apachectl' from package 'apache2.2-common' (main)
[18:37] <arooni-mobile> i'm running ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop.  i want a command to run at 6AM, but if my laptop is asleep cron can't run it.  how can i make sure this command is run as soon as laptop is active and not sleeping etc?
[18:37] <Marko> this is hard to get attention
[18:37] <Marko> :D
[18:37] <Pici> amh345: Okay, It looks like you're talking about the issue listed in CVE-2012-0883, according to our CVE tracker, it appears that we have a patch applied against the apache2.2 that would prevent this scenario from being applicable. ( see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2012/CVE-2012-0883.html )  So theres no need to switch to the 2.4 branch of apache.
[18:38] <xclusive585> arooni-mobile: if you know your way around command line look into cron
[18:38] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: I am trying to help man!  Go to an 11.04 machine and run the Startup Disk Creator
[18:38] <arooni-mobile> xclusive585, i am running cron now; but i dont believe cron will run if the time passes
[18:38] <amh345> Pici. thank you so much!!
[18:39] <Ek|mu5> Hi all, just want to know how to hide/remove real name from switch user on the panel also can I just use gconftool insead of dconf-editor?
[18:39] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: I don't have that on any of mine..
[18:39] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: or gksu  usb-creator-gtk & from the console
[18:39] <xclusive585> arooni-mobile: there are explicit options that start with "@" like @reboot etc.
[18:39] <xclusive585> instead of a specific time\
[18:39] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: install it - usb-creator-gtk
[18:39] <amh345> ok guys. my next question.  how can i apply a patch? :/
[18:39] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Given that your machine can boot from USB, it's much less of a risk to try my method. If it fails, then you'll need to buy a flash drive to fix it but it won't be the death of the machine. And the procedure probably will work.
[18:41] <Penguincsc> Ek|mu5: try this: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/01/10/gconftool-2-gconf-editor-from-the-shell/
[18:41] <Pici> amh345: if you're talking about the patch I just mentioned, you don't need to. That was applied on the source package before it was built and distributed to our package repositories. The resulting binaries do not have the issue.
[18:41] <Jordan_U> amh345: Why do you think you need to apply any patch? Pici just told you that "we have a patch applied against the apache2.2 that would prevent this scenario from being applicable" which means that *you* don't need to do anything, the work of patching has already been done by the Ubuntu developers.
[18:41] <Eagleman> Penguincsc it looks like KVM performs better than virtual box
[18:42] <Eagleman> I'm gonna test them both on my virtual ubuntu first
[18:42] <amh345> Pici, oh. i see.
[18:42] <Penguincsc> Ek|mu5: and you can change your name in the User Accounts option when you click your name
[18:42] <gohkesh>  Does one simply walk into Mordor?
[18:42] <Eagleman> Installation looks rather painfull to execute
[18:42] <amh345> so this PCI report must just be pulling from it's db on apache2.2 issues
[18:42] <Jordan_U> !ot | gohkesh
[18:43] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: right - but it is more complicated to manage and set up. What do you need it for?
[18:43] <blackcatnekonegr> gohkesh, are you a troll?
[18:43] <Eagleman> Penguincsc so i can work on it while somewhere else like school or friends
[18:43] <oCean> blackcatnekonegr: please don't do that
[18:43] <Pici> amh345: PCI relies on version numbers, which often do not reflect the patches that have been applied against the source.
[18:43] <Ek|mu5> Penguincsc: thanks, I just found out I was barking up the wrong tree, it's in gsettings. Also not intending to change the real name
[18:44] <Ek|mu5> just hide it in panel
[18:44] <Eagleman> not for serious things just to test it out
[18:44] <blackcatnekonegr> oCean, sorry
[18:44] <AndroUser> Could a install of ubuntu cause a page fault error when on of them is on the c/ drive and the other is on the d/
[18:44] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: I installed an Ubunto server @ my lab and each of my technicians have their on VM. They connect over RDP to it and I am using a regular new PC has the hardware
[18:44] <amh345> Pici, ok. time to plea my case to them
[18:44] <amh345> heh
[18:45] <blackcatnekonegr> AndroUser, any error that can happen will happen, are you talking about a grub error?
[18:45] <gohkesh> Lol, do i look like one?
[18:45] <AndroUser> No sorry I meant to ask that in windows
[18:46] <paulus68> I have a laptop from which the screen is working partially I attached it to an external monitor, however eachtime when I touch my mousepad or keys the screen is becomming visible again how can I avoid this from happening
[18:46] <Somelauw> Does anyone experience that when running a youtube video or running flash in general **** up all graphics in every single application?
[18:46] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: if you use the proper security, you can leave it working and connect to it over the Internet from anywhere in the world
[18:46] <gohkesh> Btw one does not simply ask someone who seems to be a troll if he is one.
[18:46] <oCean> gohkesh: do you have an actual support question?
[18:47] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: better use VPN for that, or SSL VPN
[18:47] <blackcatnekonegr> AndroUser, install linux last, so it will install grub, done that way, you should not have problems.
[18:47] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: so, what's cooking?
[18:47] <streulma> paulus68: same problem here, the screen works good, but when I give a tick on the laptop, the computer freezes :)
[18:47] <amh345> pici, just to make sure. how can i check that my version of apache 2.2 has this fix?  because at some point it didnt have the fix?
[18:47] <Eagleman> Penguincsc i already got openvpn set up
[18:47] <streulma> paulus: also when I move the mouse around :(
[18:47] <Somelauw> Or insert the live cd after installing windows and recover whatever damage the win installer has done.
[18:47] <gohkesh> Ocean, yes. I need to know how can i uninstall this shit and recover my lovely windows back?
[18:47] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: cool
[18:47] <linusBD_> how can I install a Lexmark z750 on Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[18:48] <paulus68> streulma: the computer is doing fine here however I don't want to screen to come alive and don't know how to achieve this
[18:48] <Eagleman> Penguincsc i'm gonna stick with virtualbox for now
[18:48] <Somelauw> gohkesh ask in #windows
[18:48] <Somelauw> gohkesh ask in #windows
[18:48] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: it's real simple. Use the regular one from the site repos - not the OSE
[18:48] <dotrob> hi there, after updating my 12.04 system today (kernel update included) my boot hangs 3 minutes on 'ACPI: processor limited to max C-state 1', dmesg.log is http://pastebin.com/w4vxHBcU - any ideas?
[18:48] <blackcatnekonegr> Somelauw, update your video card driver with the proprietary one, that's a know issue with ubuntu generic drivers, sometimes they cause problems with flash.
[18:49] <Eagleman> OSE?
[18:49] <oCean> gohkesh: stay on topic or you find yourself outside the channel
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> gohkesh, what windows release?
[18:49] <streulma> Eagleman: you cannot run Virtualbox service on port 80 ?
[18:49] <Ek|mu5> Penguincsc: command-line: `gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.session show-real-name-on-panel false`
[18:49] <oCean> wilee-nilee: please don't continue offtopic
[18:49] <streulma> Eagleman: run 2 interfaces on Virtualbox: NAT and Host-network
[18:49] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: you set up RDP on the Virtualbox server and start the VM from a command line, even over SSH
[18:49] <Eagleman> streulma it uses port 80 for a remote connection?
[18:49] <Ek|mu5> Penguincsc: logging out to see if it works :) thanks
[18:49] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: you can't do that in Windows! ;-)
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> oCean, no problem but a mbr load is easy, just thought helping might clear the channel.
[18:50] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: good luck\
[18:50] <Eagleman> Lets install it first
[18:50] <Somelauw> blackcatnekonegr: Is nvidia 185-kernel-saurce the one I need? I am pretty sure I installed propierty drivers (although that was before I did a dist-upgrade).
[18:50] <streulma> Eagleman: hmm no, but we have a setup with Apache Proxy to an internal vm
[18:50] <Penguincsc> Ek|mu5: cool
[18:50] <chkneater> Can anyone point me to some answers about JackD2
[18:50] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: usb-creator... errors out
[18:51] <Ek|mu5> Penguincsc: yep, it worked :)
[18:51] <Penguincsc> Ek|mu5: why would you want it?
[18:51] <ericP> i'm running 12.04 64 bit and would like to install virtualbox
[18:51] <blackcatnekonegr> Somelauw, the distro upgrade probably installed generic drivers, remove them and install the proprietary one
[18:51] <Pici> amh345: According to our CVE tracker, we have always used that patch, so you've never been vulnerable to this particular CVE.
[18:51] <ericP> i tried selecting "virtualbox" in aptitude and it proposed to close ~70 packages
[18:52] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: what's the error? Did you update the machine?
[18:52] <Ek|mu5> Penguincsc: just wanted to hide it. I'm on a laptop, don't want any prying eyes to see that kind of info
[18:52] <Somelauw> blackcatnekonegr: How to install the propierty one? Does the package have a name? My video card was made by nvidia.
[18:52] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: ImportError: No module named gnomevfs
[18:52] <blackcatnekonegr> Somelauw, and usually, try installing the newest one first, unless your video card is too old.
[18:52] <Penguincsc> Ek|mu5: cool Linux lets you do all you want ;-)
[18:52] <chkneater> anyone know anything about Jack2?
[18:52] <xangua> ericP: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[18:53] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: run from console: apt-get update then upgrade then dist-upgrade - then try again
[18:53] <iceroot> !anyone | chkneater
[18:53] <blackcatnekonegr> Somelauw, make sure you have the option of "install third party, proprietary drivers on"
[18:53] <streulma> ericP: download de Virtualbox deb ? and install with sudo dpkg -i file.deb ?
[18:53] <linusBD_> Penguincsc: except install a Lexmark z705 -__-
[18:53] <ericP> xangua, ose, roger -- what's "ose", btw?
[18:53] <Somelauw> Oh, wait there is a package nvidia-current
[18:54] <streulma> ericP: then you can do like sudo apt-get -f install for the rest
[18:54] <Ek|mu5> Penguincsc: could have done it with the gui tool but didn't want to install it do only that thing. Also some learning with the new stuff. Kinda felt dated when I tried to do it with gconftool :)
[18:54] <Eagleman> Penguincsc http://pastebin.com/SZs1D9Ut
[18:54] <xangua> ericP: forget what i said, i thought you couldn't find it and virtualbox-ose is just a transitional package for virtualbox; if you have to install 70 firefo to install it do it...those are called dependencies
[18:54] <Eagleman> Also i'm installing 4.0 but what about the latest version?
[18:55] <Somelauw> blackcatnekonegr: Well, it's ON
[18:55] <chkneater> Ubotto, also alot of internet tough guys hide behind linguistics and not not logic, it would have taken a lot less time and energy tho I'm sure you could use it after all
[18:55] <xangua> ericP: i'm using ubuntu 12.04 but it only suggest me to install not more than 10 extra packages
[18:55] <ericP> xangua, actually "virtualbox" *conflicted* with around 70, i presume because of ia32 stuff
[18:55] <blackcatnekonegr> Somelauw, try with this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[18:55] <ericP> now trying -ose
[18:55] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: what version of Ubuntu Server?
[18:56] <Eagleman> 12.04
[18:56] <ericP> xangua, yup, -ose worked perfectly
[18:56] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: is it up to date?
[18:56] <Eagleman> yes
[18:57] <blackcatnekonegr> Somelauw, well, try to find Nvidia in Synaptic and install the newest version abaliable.
[18:57] <chkneater> Can ANYONE answer a question unpretentiously that is NOT in any of the MAN pages or other PPA's?
[18:57] <Eagleman> change deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib to deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian precise contrib  ?
[18:57] <Somelauw> what's the difference between apt-get and jockey-text?
[18:57] <Somelauw> blackcatnekonegr: done
[18:58] <blackcatnekonegr> Somelauw, Synaptic seems to be the mostly error free way to install stuff in  ubuntu 12.04 for now.
[18:58] <sipior> chkneater: if you're going to cop an attitude right at the beginning, i'm guessing you won't get too many takers.
[18:58] <stueng> asking if somone can answer a question but asking the question is fail tbh
[18:59] <stueng> not*
[18:59] <zanberdo> chkneater, firstly, ubotto is a bot, so lecturing it on how to answer question is sorta silly. The point that was being made was that you should just ask your questions and don't ask to ask. If you have a specific question that someone can answer, they will.
[18:59] <stueng> anyhooo.. .anyone know might cause a CIFS mount to occasionally go permission denied then come back RW a few mins later?
[19:00] <blackcatnekonegr> Somelauw, make sure to remove Nouveau, make sure no more that one driver is installed, then you need to reboot
[19:01] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: did you add the official Virtualbox repo from here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[19:01] <zanberdo> stueng, have you checked your logs to see if you can see anything? I us CIFS mounts daily and haven't run into that specific issue, but I know if can be problematic at times.
[19:01] <little_girl> halp
[19:01] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: scroll downd and copy the first line - for precise
[19:01] <stueng> zanberdo: is there something more robust than fstab cifs mounts ?
[19:02] <zanberdo> stueng, more robust? I can't say. I have my cifs mount configured in fstab though, and it's fairly stable.  It might help if you shared your parameters (omit any passwords)
[19:03] <zanberdo> stueng, for instance, one of my mounts looks like: //ha-server/general /mnt/ha-server/general cifs _netdev,auto,owner,rw,username=mark,password=********,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[19:03] <stueng> zanberdo: /source/share /media/mountpoint user=,password=,gid=1001 0 0
[19:03] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: ?
[19:03] <mischief> hello, i'm on amazon ec2 with ubuntu 11.10 and i need to get glibc 2.14. but it seems glibc 2.13 is the only one in the repo. anyone know how i could get glib 2.14?
[19:04] <mischief> glibc**
[19:04] <Eagleman> Penguincsc
[19:04] <stueng> zanberdo: what do _netdev ; auto ; owner do ?
[19:04] <zanberdo> stueng, note the use of _netdev in mine - I use this option to ensure the mount occurs after the network is established so I don't wait for days during the bood...
[19:04] <zanberdo> s/bood/boot
[19:04] <stueng> k
[19:04] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: scroll down and copy the first line - for precise
[19:04] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: did you add the official Virtualbox repo from here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[19:04] <Eagleman> yes i just did
[19:05] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: now did you try to install it?
[19:05] <zanberdo> stueng, honestly, I'll have to check man to be able to tell you what auto and owner parameters do (set this up over a year ago...)
[19:05] <Eagleman> Penguincsc precise isnt working since the latest is oneiric
[19:05] <Eagleman> there is no such package for precise
[19:06] <Eagleman> E: Package 'virtualbox-4.0' has no installation candidate
[19:06] <CoJaBo> Eagleman: ..wait, wat
[19:06] <linusBD_> please... someone tell me how I can install my printer...
[19:06] <CoJaBo> linusBD_: What brand?
[19:06] <linusBD_> Lexmark
[19:07] <Penguincsc> linusBD_: What printer?
[19:07] <streulma> Eagleman: try virtualbox-4.1
[19:07] <Penguincsc> linusBD_: model?
[19:07] <linusBD_> Lexmark z705
[19:07] <Eagleman> streulma still not working
[19:07] <CoJaBo> linusBD_: Option A) Pawn it for any other brand; Option B) Install WinXP in a virtual machine and install the drivers from their site.
[19:07] <Penguincsc> Eagleman: just run apt-get update and then apt-cache search virtualbox|grep server
[19:07] <blackcatnekonegr>  linusBD_, first make sure you have the needed print packages installed, then check if it has as linux driver, if it doesn't you will have to use a generic.
[19:07] <amh345> Pici: im sorry to be a bother about this stuff. but PCI are being really anal.  they're asking for version nubmers and all that stuff to prove that it's patched.  can you link me to the CVE tracker post? or something that has that info?
[19:07] <Eagleman> I've added this line: deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian precise contrib non-free to  /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:07] <amh345> as an aside. there are a lot of people posting about PCI and this issue.  it would be great for a callout somewhere
[19:08] <Eagleman> E: Package 'virtualbox-4.1' has no installation candidate
[19:08] <yashy> I was doing a do-release-upgrade remotely when I was disconnected. When I reconnected, it said there was no upgrade. When I do apt-get dist-upgrade it says to do a -f install. When I do that, I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/HabgYs8P
[19:08] <linusBD_> ok! tx!
[19:08] <Penguincsc> linusBD_: what version of Ubuntu?
[19:08] <CoJaBo> linusBD_: Srsly tho, Lexmark printers have the worst Linux support of almost any hardware out there -_-'
[19:09] <linusBD_> CoJaBo yeah... I can see that... :(
[19:09] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: did you manage?
[19:09] <linusBD_> Penguincsc: Ubuntu 12.04
[19:09] <blackcatnekonegr> linusBD_, you can try a generic, but don't expect miracles
[19:09] <CoJaBo> Eagleman: Does VirtualBox really not run on Precise?
[19:09] <Penguincsc> linusBD_: what happens when you plug it in? does it show up on the right?
[19:09] <webroasters> i just deleted some files from my machine, and I happen to need them. is there any way of recovering them?
[19:09] <Pici> amh345: You can point them to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2012/CVE-2012-0883.html
[19:09] <linusBD_> blackcatnekonegr I tried... doens't work :(
[19:10] <linusBD_> Penguincsc: no, nothing happens
[19:10] <mischief> hello, i'm on amazon ec2 with ubuntu 11.10 and i need to get glibc 2.14. but it seems glibc 2.13 is the only one in the repo. anyone know how i could get glibc 2.14?
[19:10] <webroasters> better stated, how do i recover them?
[19:10] <CoJaBo> linusBD_: Is it a multifunction or just a printer?
[19:10] <amh345> pici if this issue has never affected 2.2 why was it listed as an issue?  this is what im not understanding
[19:10] <OerHeks> Eagleman after adding a ppa : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:10] <linusBD_> CoJaBo: just a simple printer
[19:10] <blackcatnekonegr> linusBD_, ok, plug it in, turn the printer on and leave only ONE PAGE in it, then try to print some text
[19:10] <webroasters> please someone help, i'm going crazy here
[19:11] <CoJaBo> linusBD_: Pawn or donate it and buy a new one, HPs are supposed to be well supported; its not worth the effort, trust me on that, heh.
[19:11] <linusBD_> CoJaBo: hehe... ok then
[19:11] <Penguincsc> Samsung printers are great with Linux too
[19:11] <linusBD_> blackcatnekonegr: ok, I'll try... hang on
[19:12] <CoJaBo> linusBD_: I have an expensive MFC model that I have to run the Windows drivers in Windows XP under a virtual machine.
[19:12] <YoungLad> Favorite Ubuntu Distro everyone
[19:12] <streulma> Eagleman: problem solved :)
[19:12] <drecute> please in the name of God, I need help with nis authentication
[19:12] <zanberdo> webroasters, I don't have a specific answer for you, as there are a number of issues to consider, but a quick search on google lead me to http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linuxunix-recover-deleted-files.html - see if that helps.
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> polling, polling, polling
[19:12] <drecute> here's my nsswitch file: http://codepad.org/Ge5gGa3V
[19:12] <CoJaBo> linusBD_: If you're lucky, you might get it to print plain-text, but thats all I could get working, even with the latest Linuz drivers.
[19:13] <webroasters> thank you zanberdo
[19:13] <linusBD_> CoJaBo: a little unconfortable, I guess
[19:13] <zanberdo> linusBD_, brother are also very well supported, and inexpensive
[19:13] <newbie|2> hello world
[19:13] <blackcatnekonegr> Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS (Lucid Lynx)
[19:13] <tuxedo> Ive been try to install ubuntu 12.04 ppc on my power mac g4 and gave device error
[19:13] <blackcatnekonegr> mosrtly because of all the troubles Ubuntu 10.10 have me
[19:13] <zanberdo> webroasters, you will find that deleted file recovery can be very challenging and you have to be very delicate with your machine
[19:14] <Pici> amh345: It was never an issue for us because we happen to apply a patch to the source package that prevents the situation from occurring. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276670 should be helpful to explain why debian (and therefore us) uses that patch.
[19:14] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: were you successful with the USB creator?
[19:14] <yashy> I was doing a do-release-upgrade remotely when I was disconnected. When I reconnected, it said there was no upgrade. When I do apt-get dist-upgrade it says to do a -f install. When I do that, I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/HabgYs8P  Any help is appreciated!
[19:15] <streulma> guys, I have Eagleman problem solved :)
[19:15] <blackcatnekonegr> ok, bye
[19:15] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Yeh, someone in here was having trouble with VBox- I had to search to make sure that wasn't a common issue before going any further.
[19:15] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: It does not boot from the thumbdrive.
[19:16] <Penguincsc> yashy: try sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[19:16] <TheShrub> Penguincsc: Does ur pc support booting off USB-disks?
[19:16] <TheShrub> Penguincsc: If not then youre just wasting ur time
[19:16] <tuxedo> hello_???
[19:16] <Penguincsc> TheShrub: you mean CoJaBo
[19:16] <TheShrub> sorry
[19:17] <TheShrub> saw the name behinf
[19:18] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Dunno what else to try, guess I'm just stuck with jaunty :/
[19:18] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: you used Usb Creator on a new thumb drive, turned the laptop off, then on again, pressed the F12 on the POST screen and choose USB - and what happened?
[19:18] <hrolf> Hey #ubuntu I have a PDF file which I can access fine in Windows but when I open the same file in Ubuntu (Document Viewer) it asks for a password.
[19:19] <yashy> Penguincsc: Thanks, will do!
[19:19] <tuxedo> I ve been trying to run ubuntu 12.04 ppc on my power mac g4
[19:19] <i2out3r> what's the catch with using aptitude to search for a package to install, then installing it with aptitude install, as opposed to apt-get install?
[19:19] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: There is no USB option on the f12 screen, only boot priority list. Set it as the only option, it just says there is no boot device.
[19:19] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: why not run an upgrade directly from within Jaunty?
[19:19] <hrolf> From where do I find the password now? Why was it working fine without a password in XP?
[19:19] <mcphail> i2out3r: aptitude isn't a standard part of ubuntu any more
[19:19] <Jordan_U> !aptitude | i2out3r
[19:19] <tuxedo> and gave an error on video device
[19:20] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Because the package manager is non-functional
[19:20] <i2out3r> mcphail: so is there an apt-get equivalent to "aptitude search" because i find that handy
[19:20] <mcphail> i2out3r: apt-cache search
[19:20] <i2out3r> ah ok
[19:20] <i2out3r> thanks
[19:21] <i2out3r> so apt-cache search should be used instead of aptitude these days?
[19:21] <Sazpaimon> "these days"
[19:21] <sam555> hello all!
[19:21] <Sazpaimon> apt-cache has been around forever
[19:22] <mcphail> i2out3r: apt-cache search, apt-cache show and apt-cache policy are all useful commands
[19:22] <OerHeks> CoJaBo, some machines need to set boot-order in 2 places, boot device & hdd priority
[19:22] <Sazpaimon> if my dpkg status file somehow gets destroyed, would it make sense to try and partially restore it using /usr/share/doc?
[19:22] <CoJaBo> OerHeks: This only has one level.
[19:22] <Sazpaimon> then having dselect reinstall all the packages
[19:23] <i2out3r> Well, that's settled it then, I'll use apt-cache from now on, thanks for the advice
[19:23] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: try: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install update-manager-core, sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:23] <sam555> how do you figure out what release you have of ubuntu in command line?
[19:23] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: It errors out
[19:23] <webroasters> i'm using photorec, and when i tell it a particular folder to scan, it ends up creating a bunch of folders with files that I know aren't something from that folder
[19:23] <webroasters> how i can make photorec just focus on one folder alone
[19:23] <amh345> Pici, that you very much for all the information.  and helping to better understand how this works.   i've submitted my appeal
[19:24] <mcphail> i2out3r: if you are using 32 bit ubuntu there's nothing stopping you installing and using aptitude. I also use aptitude on 64-bit but that is now frowned-upon
[19:24] <Sazpaimon> sam555, i can't remember where ubuntu puts its ubuntu_release file, but I know you can just do something like cat /etc/apt/sources.list and see what name shows up in the urls
[19:24] <sam555> Sazpaimon: thanks!
[19:24] <xangua> sam555: lsb_release -a
[19:24] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: you have an external USB CD drive?
[19:25] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Yes; it does not boot from that either.
[19:25] <schultza> what's wrong with aptitude on 64?
[19:25] <mcphail> schultza: can't handle multiarch, apparently
[19:25] <sam555> Sazpaimon: I found it!
[19:25] <Jonii> Hey, for some reason on my zenbook, if I close the lid of my laptop, my ubuntu 12.4 locks itself
[19:25] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: turn off the laptop, connect the drive and make sure it is on 9if it has a power switch) then turn on the laptop and press F12
[19:26] <zanberdo> on the subject of apt vs aptitude, it's my understanding that there is generally no difference - which is to say that where aptitude was prized by some for it's ability to automatically remove dependencies when apt-get would not, apt-get now has a switch "autoremove" which performs the same function. Other than that, aptitude and the various apt- incarnations are pretty much the same.  NOTE: I still use aptitude out of habit.
[19:26] <Jonii> Or, at least, it asks for password after this
[19:26] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Thats what i did
[19:26] <Jonii> Is there a way to make it stop doing that?
[19:26] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: put the Ubuntu 12.04 cd in it
[19:26] <linusBD_> yeah... this damn printer really doesn't work here... I'm gonna sell it and buy a new HP printer... tx, anyway!
[19:26] <sam555> I'm running ubuntu 9.04 32 bit server and having problems running this command line ---->sudo apt-get install apcupsd apcupsd-cgi 
[19:26] <TheLordOfTime> !9.04 | sam555
[19:27] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: try updating the BIOS
[19:27] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: It is. It doesn't even blink or spin up before declaring there is no OS found.
[19:27] <TheLordOfTime> sam555: if you're on 9.04, y ou should upgrade to at least 10.04
[19:27] <zanberdo> linusBD_, consider a brother as they are very well supported
[19:27] <zanberdo> linusBD_, just my two-cents
[19:27] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: I don't think I have a feasible way of doing that.
[19:27] <linuxius1> hi! when I try to connect to the serial device connected to the USB Port with minicom (terminal: sudo minicom) i get an i/o error. does anyone know a solution?
[19:28] <zanberdo> sam555, have you changed your repo source to reflect old-releases?
[19:28] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: if the update is windows only, use Hirens BootCD
[19:28] <linusBD_> zanberdo LOL
[19:28] <Jonii> I mean, is it a bug that I keep getting my password asked?
[19:28] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: You see the problem there, right?
[19:28] <Jonii> I have set it so that nothing happens when I close the lid
[19:28] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: that's how I did it
[19:28] <mcphail> linuxius1: run "sudo minicom -s" and alter the settings?
[19:28] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: The machine will not boot from CD. I cannot update the bios from a boot CD so that it can boot from a boot CD.
[19:29] <sam555> zanberdo: yes and turns out just running asudo apt-get install apcupsd worked
[19:29]  * Penguincsc hits himself on the forehead
[19:29] <zanberdo> sam555, since 9.04 is no longer supported (2 years for non-LTS releases) you will have to chance your /etc/apt/sources.list servers to old-releases (there are notes on ubuntu site to this effect, just search for ubuntu and old-releases).
[19:29] <Penguincsc> ;-)
[19:29] <sam555> TheLordOfTime: currently updating to 12.04 on another machine
[19:29] <CoJaBo> -_-'
[19:29] <sam555> zanberdo: going to
[19:29] <Cerrdor> how can I change my local hostname?
[19:29] <Pricey> Jonii: I think there's a setting in the gnome screensaver settings...
[19:29] <Beatstreet> can someone help me a RAID5 that won't boot and I have to reassemble everytime when I boot into ubuntu Desktop from CD
[19:29] <Jonii> Pricey: how does that work?
[19:30] <zanberdo> Cerrdor, should be able to just edit /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname though if you have postfix installed you will have to edit /etc/mailname and possible /etc/postfix/main.cf... but in general that should cover you
[19:30] <linuxius1> mcphail: the device name is /dev/ttyACM0... what else could I change to get it working?  bps/Par/bits?
[19:30] <tomatto_> some software which use 1394 camera and make some virtual webcam?
[19:30] <Pricey> Jonii: Pretty sure there's a setting there about when you close the lid, it'll lock the screen/activate screensaver.
[19:30] <zanberdo> Beatstreet, mdadm or dmraid?
[19:30] <Beatstreet> mdadm
[19:30] <Darkenvy> I am having the hardest time installing sun-java6-jre package on ubuntu12. Where did it go? I must have followed like 5 guides on the iternet with no success
[19:31] <Pricey> Jonii: Annoyingly, I forget how to get there on 12.04, go to system settings in the unity search menu, or search for screensaver.
[19:31] <Cerrdor> awesome zanberdo appreciate it
[19:31] <mcphail> linuxius1: my experience with serial devices has been simple trial and error. You'd probably be better getting help from someone sensible!
[19:31] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Hm, the netbook does not boot from the USB disk either
[19:31] <zanberdo> Beatstreet, and when you boot the array is degraded I presume?  Has it had a chance to completely rebuild before you boot it?
[19:31] <Jonii> curiously, there does not seem to be a menu item like screen saver anywhere on my system
[19:31] <linuxius1> mcphail: ok, thanks anyway!!
[19:31] <pertutatis> rhythmbox don't get album artwork from the internet, any idea? I already have the plugin checked
[19:31] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Is there another way to create it? I'm guessing the tool from the older version I have is not working on the newer version...
[19:32] <zanberdo> Cerrdor, no problem. However, you may want to do a little  research to be sure there aren't other apps dependent on your hostname.
[19:32] <Cerrdor> zanberdo, when I edit the name does it have to be site.com. or just site.com?
[19:32] <Beatstreet> zanberdo - all I get is unknown filesystem and a grub rescue prompt
[19:32] <Cerrdor> how would I check that?
[19:33] <the_cops> I have all your IPs logged
[19:33] <Pricey> Jonii: Also, check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/95295/how-to-prevent-screen-locking-when-lid-is-closed
[19:33] <zanberdo> Cerrdor, insofar as I know you can name your host pretty much anything you like but double check me on that
[19:33] <Beatstreet> when I boot into Desktop from CD-ROM - RAID doesnt show there either so I --assemble and both md0 and md1 come up fine
[19:33] <arooni-mobile__> somehow i have a zoom box that encloses the cursor position;  i didnt want this  and i'd like to get rid of it.  how can i?
[19:33] <zanberdo> Beatstreet, ah then your issue may be related more to grub rather than your disk (I'm shooting in the dark here).  I presume you are running grub2 and not grub-legacy?
[19:34] <Beatstreet> what every comes with 11.04 server
[19:34] <xangua> arooni-mobile__: sounds like a zoom plugin from compiz and that you were playing with compiz settings manager ;)
[19:34] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: it says in the manual you have to go to the boot sequence page in the BIOS and press space on each device you want to enable
[19:34] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: It wont boot from the USB stick because it is currupt somhow.
[19:34] <arooni-mobile__> xangua, i dont remember setting it up;
[19:34] <Beatstreet> zanberdo - I had the box booted yesturday but I tried to replace faulty drive and RAID will not come up on it's own now
[19:34] <zanberdo> Beatstreet, it's important to know as they are very different. 11.04 comes with grub2 IIRC.
[19:35] <arooni-mobile__> xangua, id like to get rid of it; but enhanced desktop zoom doesnt show anything
[19:35] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Is there another way to create it without relying on software installed on the host PC that is itslef outdaed?
[19:35] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: connect the pendrive before you turn on the laptop, enter the BIOS (F2) and try
[19:35] <xangua> arooni-mobile__: then open compiz settings manager and disable it¿
[19:35] <Jonii> Pricey: that's for gnome 3 and some different screen saver handler thing
[19:35] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: It wont boot from the USB stick because it is currupt somhow.
[19:36] <xangua> arooni-mobile__: doesn't show up in compiz¿¿ then it may be Orca
[19:36] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: do you have another Ubuntu, maybe 11.04?
[19:36] <zanberdo> Beatstreet, sounds like you have both a degraded array AND an issue with grub[2] mounting the array to boot.  Let me think a moment
[19:36] <Jonii> I have standard unity 12.4
[19:36] <Pricey> Jonii: oh bah i didn't read that first line
[19:36] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: You can dd the Ubuntu 12.04 iso directly to the flash drive (whiping all existing contents on the drive!).
[19:36] <ericP> i'm running xfce, which has a panel dingus for managing the network. it doesn't have one for speaker control. gnome-control-center doesn't even have a sound icon (in fact, only has 5 icons)
[19:36] <Beatstreet> zanberdo - when I get the RAIDs up in Desktop, both are clean
[19:36] <_numbers> is there an easy way to switch between speakers and headphones?
[19:36] <Beatstreet> not degraded
[19:36] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: why do you think it is corrupt?
[19:36] <Pricey> Jonii: I still have a feeling its using gnome-screensaver though..
[19:36] <ericP> if i add indicator, i get a sound controller in the panel, and the control-center has a sound icon
[19:37] <ericP> however, networkmanager now has two masters and gets all confused
[19:37] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Because it does not boot on the netbook, which I know can boot from them.
[19:37] <arooni-mobile> ok got rid of it!  wooh!
[19:37] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: what OS o you have on the netbook?
[19:38] <ericP> i've been running for a couple months installing indicator only when i want to change the volume or sound device, then removing it
[19:38] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Older Kubuntu
[19:38] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: what version?
[19:38] <zanberdo> Beatstreet, ok, so then I'd start looking at grub2.  Unfortunately for you my system is configured with grub-legacy so I'm afraid I won't be much help, but grub2 is well documented and I'm sure you will find that there are a few tools you can use to ensure grub2 is loading the right modules and is able to access your raid array during boot.  If I find something I'll post here
[19:38] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Did you see / understand my message about using dd?
[19:38] <CoJaBo> Jordan_U: I can?
[19:38] <Darkenvy> anyone know how to install sun-java6-jre package? repo?
[19:39] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: what version of Ubuntu?
[19:39] <derpdoodle> yaoo
[19:39] <derpdoodle> what does this do :   l_wk1 = (l_wk1 < 0)?0 : ( (l_wk1 > (unsigned short)0xffff)?(unsigned short)0xffff : l_wk1 );
[19:39] <Darkenvy> ubuntu12.04
[19:39] <shaneo> hey guys when trying to connect to a local wordpress address it just downloads a file instead of going to home page what do i do to fix this
[19:40] <Darkenvy> I have a DIFFERENT install of ubuntu12.04 and installed sun-java6-jre when it was ubuntu10.04 and it works fine. but a FRESH install of ubuntu12.04 I have tried everything and cant find it anywhere
[19:40] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: try these: http://www.webupd8.org/p/ubuntu-ppas-by-webupd8.html
[19:40] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Yes, you can dd a 12.04 iso directly to a drive to make said drive a bootable liveUSB. (again, this will destroy all exiting data on the drive).
[19:40] <xangua> Darkenvy: oracle java is no longer on oficial repositories
[19:40] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: there's one for Java
[19:40] <Jonii> This is over my head. I thought unity was different branch of gnome, renamed and all, and so it seems weird that gnome screensaver things have so much to do with how unity handles locking screen when closing lid
[19:41] <kurtwp_> Darkenvy: here you go http://paste.org/49892
[19:41] <Darkenvy> how do I add the repo?
[19:41] <trism> derpdoodle: looks like it pins the value between 0 and 0xffff, not really on topic to the room though, maybe try ##c
[19:42] <kurtwp_> Darkenvy: That what I did on a new install of 12.04 desktop
[19:42] <zanberdo> derpdoodle, your question isn't relevant to ubuntu specifically I presume. however, looking at the line of code it appears to be a trinary operation evaluating the value of l_wk1 in which it's set to 0 if l_wk1 is <0, of 0xffff if l_wk1 > 0xffff or simply left alone. It's a range checker.
[19:42] <Darkenvy> okay trying now
[19:42] <kurtwp_> Darkenvy: you can ignore the apt xchat
[19:42] <SafariMonkey> Hi, is there any way to easily close multiple (but not all) (chrome) windows from unity, like MMB in Win7(e.g. mmb when viewing window 'grid' to close instead of open)??
[19:42] <CoJaBo> Jordan_U: Trying that now; wonder why that wouldn't have turned up on Google tho, seems rediculously easy....
[19:43] <bibibo> I have notebook DELL Latitude D620 and I have e problem with soundcard. I use Ubuntu 12.04.No sound from speaker. Please. help
[19:43] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: To make sure you're doing it properly, what is the exact dd command you're using / planning to use?
[19:44] <Cerrdor> I can add a user to super users with visudo right?
[19:44] <xangua> SafariMonkey: if you unity with compiz you can enable scale addons plugins to show windows like mac and close them with the middle mouse button
[19:45] <CoJaBo> Jordan_U: dd if=/path/to/.iso of=/dev/sdg bs=1M
[19:45] <Jordan_U> Cerrdor: Yes, but you should just add them to the proper group instead.
[19:45] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Looks good.
[19:45] <Cerrdor> how so?
[19:46] <SafariMonkey> xangua, is 'show like mac' different from normal behavior?
[19:46] <Darkenvy> kurtwp_: not a key id: skipping (when adding ppa)
[19:47] <xangua> SafariMonkey: it scales the open windows....scale plugin :P
[19:47] <Jordan_U> Cerrdor: On a default install of Ubuntu, /etc/sudoers is configured to allow any user who is a member of either the "sudo" group or the "admin" group to use sudo.
[19:48] <shaneo> hi guys if puring wordpress to setup from their official package if i do a purge will it uninstall all deps
[19:48] <xangua> SafariMonkey: not using compiz right now but i believe that if you clic on the launcher icon while several instances of the same app are running it will scale just them, repeat i believe
[19:48] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: good luck
[19:49] <SafariMonkey> xangua, I enabled it and unity is functional except launcher doesn't reveal...
[19:49] <Penguincsc> Jordan_U: good catch - how didn't I think of it?
[19:49] <daviddoria> After I upgraded to 12.04, a little thermometer icon (with sensor temperatures, etc) appeared. I can't figure out how to stop it from starting at startup
[19:49]  * lorax_ needs help with mp3wrap...anyone savvy?
[19:49] <daviddoria> I guess it is called psensor
[19:50] <schultza> how do you start a service?
[19:50] <SafariMonkey> xangua, and drop-downs don't drop.
[19:50] <Penguincsc> schultza: which one?
[19:50] <tuxedo> no one can help me?
[19:50] <schultza> asterisk
[19:50] <Penguincsc> tuxedo: what's the problem?
[19:50] <xangua> launcher doesn't reveal... - did you disable the Unity plugin SafariMonkey ¿
[19:50] <w30> what program do I need to resolve network:/// in my file browser window? I forgot what it was and I need it for another box.
[19:50] <tuxedo> Ive  been trying to run ubuntu 12.04 on a power mac g4
[19:51] <SafariMonkey> no.
[19:51] <Penguincsc> schultza: sudo service asterisk start?
[19:51] <tuxedo> and gave me the error of video driver
[19:51] <lm_> Hi thank you for helping: java jre exists for ubuntu? or i must install openjdk development?
[19:51] <Penguincsc> tuxedo: and what is the problem?
[19:51] <lorax_> does anyone here know the program mp3wrap? the online tutorials don't cover my issue for some reason, and it's probably something really simple and easy...
[19:52] <markk__> testing
[19:52] <eli9> Hi thank you for helping: java jre exists for ubuntu? or i must install openjdk development?
[19:52] <SafariMonkey> launcher seems to exist, as when I alt-tab the icon pops out from where it would be. Drop-downs also highlight on click but don't do anything...
[19:52] <tuxedo> tell me this
[19:52] <mbucko> i have ubuntu 10.04 and it goes to black screen on startup but i can run the desktop successfully by booting into bash and using startx to load up the GUI. Any idea why this is?
[19:53]  * lorax_ needs help with mp3wrap...anyone?
[19:53] <eli9> ok i just confirmed it exists.
[19:53] <tuxedo> hold on
[19:54] <SafariMonkey> xangua, any ideas, or should I forget it and revert my profile? takes ages, but it's easier than no unity launcher
[19:54] <SafariMonkey> see prev msgs
[19:55] <eli9> does anyone here receive the message dev/mapper/cryptswap on ubuntu boot?
[19:55] <tuxedo> tell me
[19:55] <xangua> SafariMonkey: i don't see pm, they don't even get to me
[19:55] <Pricey> !java | eli9
[19:55] <tuxedo> your screen, graphics card, and imput device setting coul not be detectec correctly
[19:56] <tuxedo> do I have to change the screen_
[19:56] <SafariMonkey> xangua, soz, no pm, just an unadressed message, so I didn't know if you'd seen: "launcher seems to exist, as when I alt-tab the icon pops out from where it would be. Drop-downs also highlight on click but don't do anything..."
[19:56] <MediaWork> hi
[19:57] <xangua> SafariMonkey: so the launcher is set to autohide¿
[19:57] <BlueWolf> Hi, I have a .bin file in my downloads how would I run it (  ~/Downloads/xr_setup-1.0rc3-cl_lin_prod.bin ) is this how I would do it I have forgotten all about this? Is this correct?
[19:57] <MediaWork> ehm how do I get my vlc to play dvds?
[19:57] <eli9> thank you much Pricey i believe the second implementation (the plugin) does not work in my ubuntu 11.10
[19:57] <xangua> !dvd | MediaWork
[19:57] <Pricey> eli9: What doesn't work?
[19:57] <eli9> the other 2 do including development
[19:58] <SafariMonkey> xangua, well I can't change stuff like that because it's dropdown, but yeah
[19:58] <eli9> the java plugin at that help.ubuntu.com page
[19:58] <kurtwp_> Darkenvy: Did you install Java
[19:58] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: did you add the PPA from Webupd8?
[19:59] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: it's super easy
[19:59] <Penguincsc> \
[19:59] <eli9> the second one.
[19:59] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: that's how I did it
[20:00] <Darkenvy> kurtwp_ it said "not a key id: skipping"
[20:00] <eli9> well i got 11.10 maybe that is why Pricey
[20:01] <schultza> set auto_away off
[20:01] <DuxB> Hi, can anyone give me any ideas as to why my bios is reporting that I've overclocked my cpu from 2.67 to 3.20 but ubuntu is reporting that my upper limit is 2.67 still?
[20:01] <schultza> set auto-away off
[20:01] <Pricey> eli9: What doesn't work about it?
[20:01] <Pricey> DuxB: overclocked in the bios settings?
[20:01] <kurtwp_> Darkenvy: oh I did not get that message
[20:01] <DuxB> Pricey: yes
[20:01] <Darkenvy> "could not be verified because the public key is not available"
[20:01] <MediaWork> xangua: thanks
[20:01] <Pricey> DuxB: Have you gone back to check the settings held?
[20:01] <Darkenvy> when I try to repload the list
[20:01] <DuxB> Pricey: several times
[20:01] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: did the dd work?
[20:02] <Galvatron> DuxB: Where do you check the CPU frequency?
[20:02] <Darkenvy> whats the ignore key command?
[20:02] <eli9> well it says it doesnt exist in the software center Pricey
[20:02] <Pricey> DuxB: What is reporting it?
[20:03] <chadi> folks, I want a window list in unity. Is this possible?
[20:03] <DuxB> Pricey: cpufreq-info, /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
[20:03] <DuxB> Pricey: and /proc/cpuinfo
[20:04] <SafariMonkey> you know what, xangua, I'll just leave it and reset my compiz profile.  (turning off scaling doesn't help)
[20:04] <DuxB> Pricey: and system-monitor
[20:04] <Galvatron> chadi: No, but you can use "Scale" Compiz plugin to greatly improve window switching.
[20:05] <Pricey> DuxB: I give up.
[20:05] <eli9> well it says it doesnt exist in the software center Pricey
[20:05] <chadi> Galvatron: okay, but i love unity as it is, and I want window list. Can this be done via a 3rd party plugin or something?
[20:06] <Darkenvy> why is it so hard to add sun-java6-jre?!
[20:06] <Darkenvy> I am close to paying someone to installing it
[20:06] <DuxB> Pricey: well, thanks for at least responding
[20:06] <concrete_> Darkenvy, Sun Java is Out man use Oracle Java
[20:06] <DuxB> Pricey: it's more than I've gotten other places
[20:06] <Pricey> eli9: Ah so you haven't even installed it?
[20:06] <Darkenvy> ??? explain concrete_
[20:06] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: did you add the PPA I sent you?
[20:06] <Darkenvy> what happened to sun?
[20:06] <Pricey> DuxB: Meh... annoyingly I'm not even on my ubuntu laptop atm
[20:06] <SafariMonkey> Galvatron, have you ever had launcher cease to reveal from turning thart on? I am having that problem. (plus drop-downs don't work)
[20:07] <concrete_> Darkenvy, Where have you been Sun is DEAD Oracle owns Java tech now
[20:07] <xangua> Darkenvy: oracle buy it and changed the licences
[20:07] <Darkenvy> that ppa penguincsc would not add because of invalid key
[20:07] <kurtwp_> Darkenvy: they were bought by Oracle
[20:07] <Pricey> DuxB: I assume you're not dual booting?
[20:07] <DuxB> Darkenvy: it was purchased by oracle
[20:07] <xangua> !gpgerr | Darkenvy
[20:07] <DuxB> Pricey: I am, but I rarely if ever use windows
[20:07] <Darkenvy> I tried that and it said unsafe ownership of file
[20:07] <SafariMonkey> xangua, is resetting thye best option?
[20:08] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: follow this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[20:08] <Pricey> DuxB: This is a crappy idea... but boot into windows and see what that says?
[20:08] <Galvatron> SafariMonkey: As you speak about it, yes, I'd have such issues prior to swiching to Kubuntu
[20:08] <xangua> SafariMonkey: not sure why the Unity laucnhe/plugins disabled, is it enabled¿
[20:08] <concrete_> Darkenvy, If you are having problems install Oracle Java try this http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[20:08] <Galvatron> *I'd had
[20:08] <DuxB> Pricey: worth trying
[20:08] <Pricey> DuxB: If that has the overclocked values, we can be pretty sure hardware is fine, ubuntu needs kicking
[20:08] <Galvatron> But I han  never linked tom to "Scale"
[20:08] <Pricey> dueyfins-: wheras if that also shows the original stuff, there might be something else wrong...
[20:09] <Pricey> bah
[20:09] <concrete_> Oracle Java is so easy to install
[20:09] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: follow this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[20:09] <SafariMonkey> xangua, when unity breaks it usually leaves me worse off than this. and unity doesn't have a tick-box...
[20:09] <Galvatron> Instead I had decided that Unity + the development Compiz is way too defective/unstable and went for KDE 4.8
[20:11] <faz> list
[20:11] <SafariMonkey> Galvatron, I find as long as I avoid certain combos, it's usually fairly stable. I haven't figured rotate cube out yet, though.
[20:11] <concrete_> Penguincsc, Don't always relay on some one else's potentially buggy script learn to install Oracle Java manually just in case things go wrong http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[20:12] <guntbert> faz: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».
[20:12] <SafariMonkey> fyi I have i7 950, gtx 460, 6gb ram
[20:12] <shaneo> hi guys everytime i try to connect to anything running on apache2 it just downloads the php file instead of loading the page any suggestion
[20:13] <nemo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/795038/comments/10
[20:13] <concrete_> Galvatron, I have heard so many people complain about Unity that is why I am waiting until the first point release of Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS after July 2012
[20:13] <nemo> Does anyone know how to enable these "integrated menus in titlebar" ?
[20:13] <nemo> Unity's current GIMP behaviour is really annoying
[20:14] <shaneo> in particular wordpress and phpMyAdmin
[20:15] <xangua> nemo: you mean the global menubar¿ are you using unity¿
[20:15] <Penguincsc> concrete_: It's not "someone's buggy script" Webupd8 are great and have a lot of cool stuff that works great
[20:15] <SafariMonkey> ok resetting
[20:15] <zanberdo> shaneo, attempting to access localhost? it's likely you have not installed libapache2-mod-php5
[20:15] <zanberdo> or some variation of it.
[20:16] <shaneo> zanberdo, ok ill check
[20:16] <Galvatron> concrete_: As much as I like Unity, I'm waiting for 12.10 - maybe they'll finally go out of alpfa at least.		
[20:16] <Galvatron> nemo: Which menus?
[20:16] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: did it work?
[20:16] <chadi> Galvatron: if I have two terminal windows, how in unity can I get a list of open terminals?
[20:17] <shaneo> zanberdo, ok it wasnt installed also php5-cgi isnt installed should i install it
[20:17] <shaneo> n/m
[20:17] <Galvatron> chadi: as I said, the simplest way would be astivating the "Scale" plugin
[20:17] <zanberdo> shaneo, That all depends on what you are hoping to achieve.  I am still working under the presumption that you are attempting to access your own server (localhost). It will depend on what php-cgi provides.
[20:18] <zanberdo> shaneo, ah, ok, you figured it out. cheers!
[20:18] <Darkenvy> okay
[20:18] <chadi> Galvatron: it is activated! yet, when I click on the terminal icon, I don't get them in the scale overview, but only get the last opened terminal.
[20:18] <Darkenvy> Penguincsc, "java version" returns could not find or return main class version
[20:18] <nemo> Galvatron: basically what the bug complains about. GIMP is multi-window, and is terribly unintuitive to use in Unity when unity *isn't* losing track of gimp (unity --reset seems to have helped with that for now over here)
[20:18] <inkadnb> I'm having trouble with crontabs
[20:19] <nemo> Galvatron: the bug was closed because it says that: "Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 there will be an option to have integrated menus in the titlebar (for instance see http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/ubuntu-12-04-to-ditch-global-menu/)."
[20:19] <inkadnb> In my crontab I only have two entries both with @reboot
[20:19] <nemo> Galvatron: that would indeed fix that issue by basically restoring the per-image menu that GIMP normally has in non-Unity
[20:19] <nemo> Galvatron: I'd like to know how to enable that, if it exists at all
[20:19] <inkadnb> I'm trying to get my buildbot master and slaves to start on startup under my "buildbot" user.
[20:19] <Darkenvy> god ide rather be messing with Xorg.conf than be installing java 0_0
[20:19] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: did you follow the last link I sent you?
[20:19] <Darkenvy> yes I did
[20:20] <Darkenvy> want a pastbin?
[20:20] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: did you try to install it manually before trying the HOWTO?
[20:20] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: yes
[20:20] <Darkenvy> I probably tried 5 or 6 different guides before now
[20:20] <Darkenvy> I uninstalled openjdk however
[20:21] <xangua> nemo: it didn't get to precice pangolin
[20:21] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: run sudo updatedb in a console
[20:21] <nemo> xangua: :-/ ohhhh well. there's always gnome3
[20:21] <Darkenvy> isnt that just updating sources.list with apt-get?
[20:21] <Darkenvy> done
[20:21] <nemo> xangua: I really was trying hard to get used to Unity, despite its many flaws, but that one is definitely a dealbreaker.  thanks.
[20:22] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: then dpkg -l |grep java and pastbin it
[20:22] <inkadnb> Anyone have experience with crontabs?
[20:22] <xangua> !anyone | inkadnb
[20:23] <kRush> how do I get gnome-terminal to remember its size and position?
[20:23] <Penguincsc> inkadnb: what do you need?
[20:23] <tavl> what is the most straightforward mode to have both 32bits and 64bits libc installed on ubuntu? couldn't find the real packages without falling in a hole of conflicts and dependencies.
[20:23] <concrete_> Galvatron, I would stick with the LTS releases of Ubuntu Linux for stability the other versions have a lot of bugs that need to be worked out
[20:23] <inkadnb> I added two @restart entries in my crontab file but they're not working. I'm trying to get my buildbot master and slaves to start under the 'buildbot' account on startup
[20:24] <Darkenvy> http://pastebin.com/KL82dV5d
[20:24] <Penguincsc> concrete_: 11.04 was good and stable
[20:24] <Senvu> Hey I just installed ubuntu on my server, but somewhere and the end there was a question what kind of additional software I want to install (e.g openssl server or apache) I accidentily hit the wrong button, is there anyway to find out afterwoards which software was installed?
[20:24] <Galvatron> nemo: Try GIMP 2.8 from PPA with a single-window mode
[20:24] <inkadnb> not really sure what I'm doing wrong
[20:24] <goddard> ubuntu is logging me into Unity 2D even though I clicked the other Unity on login
[20:25] <concrete_> Darkenvy, Are you still trying to install Java on your system ?
[20:25] <Darkenvy> yes
[20:25] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: then dpkg -l |grep java and pastbin it
[20:25] <inkadnb> Penguincsc: Did you see my message?
[20:25] <Darkenvy> http://pastebin.com/KL82dV5d
[20:25] <Darkenvy> I litterally already did that guys
[20:25] <Darkenvy> look above
[20:25] <Galvatron> concrete_: 12.04 Compiz is not even enywhere close to be stable, since the whole 0.9.x is a DEVELOPMENT line. Even the official Compiz support channel recommends swiching to the stable 0.8.x if possible.;)
[20:26] <concrete_> Follow this  guide I told you not to rely on anyone's script click this link http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[20:26] <Darkenvy> concrete_ is that for me?
[20:26] <fhtagn> testing lubuntu on a live usb
[20:26] <Darkenvy> I did not use a script to install java yet
[20:26] <fhtagn> wifi appears to be working. Anything obvious I should check=
[20:26] <fhtagn> obviously my keyboard needs to be changed...
[20:26] <concrete_> Darkenvy, yes
[20:27] <concrete_> Darkenvy, It will explain everything in detail about the installation of Java on your system
[20:27] <Darkenvy> the problem is I get an error when using "java version"
[20:27] <Darkenvy> "Error: Could not find or load main class version"
[20:27] <alankila> Darkenvy: java -version eh?
[20:27] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: just undo all you did manually and follow the guide
[20:28] <Penguincsc> inkadnb: no
[20:28] <Darkenvy> java -version returns version :)
[20:28] <Penguincsc> inkadnb: I don't understand what are you trying to do
[20:28] <Darkenvy> but the GUIDE did NOT have the -verson. it said "java version"
[20:28] <concrete_> Darkenvy, java -version
[20:28] <alankila> Darkenvy: so it was wrong. Move on.
[20:29] <Darkenvy> okay Im just stating that so you know it wasnt my fault :P
[20:29] <kurtwp_> Darkenvy: did you type java -version
[20:29] <charlton_> thanks xangua, unity must have been half-broken, so I disabled ir and did a logout-login, re-enabled it and all is well
[20:29] <Darkenvy> yes it works
[20:29] <Darkenvy> let me see if I can use java
[20:29] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: I am looking at it and it does have the -version
[20:29] <Galvatron> Speaking of testing, I've recently discovered e4rta - a replacement for Ureadahead, which gives a real boot-time boost: http://www.howtogeek.com/69753/how-to-cut-your-linux-pcs-boot-time-in-half-with-e4rat/ The only problem is that you must re-run the procedure from time to time, especially after major updates.
[20:29] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[20:29] <concrete_> Penguincsc, He is definitely a newbie to Java
[20:29] <chadi> Can I move the close minimize maximize to the right? Please?
[20:29] <TheVoid> how do i flush dns cache in ubuntu 10.04 lucid?
[20:30] <Darkenvy> are you looking at the same guide?
[20:30] <Penguincsc> concrete_: that is why we are here. I bet he might help us with somethin else
[20:30] <fhtagn> chadi: you can. or could. Ubuntu Tweak, i believe that is the name of the tool.
[20:30] <inkadnb> Penguincsc: nevermind I figured it out. Enviroment variables aren't passed to crontab :|
[20:30]  * TheVoid waits
[20:30] <Penguincsc> inkadnb: glad I could help ;-)
[20:30] <Darkenvy> okay it works
[20:30] <Darkenvy> thanks gys!
[20:31] <Darkenvy> Im out
[20:31] <chadi> fhtagn: that moves them only in unmaximized mode. In maximized mode, they're still on the left :/
[20:31] <Galvatron> Penguincsc: All's fine, except for this Oracle/Sun Java installer being ALPHA
[20:31] <Penguincsc> Darkenvy: cool. enjoy
[20:31] <fhtagn> oh, then i dunno, soz.
[20:31] <Darkenvy> ^^
[20:31] <Penguincsc> Galvatron:  works fine for me
[20:31] <TheVoid> gosh i'm about to break something
[20:32] <erik32533> ubuntu 12 10 install question
[20:32] <Penguincsc> Galvatron:  all it does, is download the official java from sun. like the one for nonfree flash installer
[20:32] <concrete_> You have to expect Ubuntu Linux is filled with bugs that haven't been worked out so don't stress out when things don't work out
[20:32] <CoJaBo> Penguincsc: Dunno, it hasn't finished yet :/
[20:32] <TheVoid> ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[20:32] <the_cops> use debian stable
[20:32] <the_cops> no bugs
[20:33] <Galvatron> Penguincsc: Does it remove Open JDK?
[20:33] <erik32533> seems like ubuntu 12 10 wants to freez up
[20:33] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: the dd command?
[20:33] <TheVoid> how many damn idle people does this have to have...
[20:33] <erik32533> i can run live cd of ubuntu
[20:33] <CoJaBo> Yeh, the thing is soo slow :/
[20:33] <Penguincsc> Galvatron: I think it does, when it checks for dependencies
[20:33] <khmerog> im trying to install virtual box but there is 4 diffferent ones..they end in DBG, DKMS, FUSE, QT..which one do i install for kubuntu?
[20:33] <CoJaBo> LOL, I just noticed this RAM sitting here has a label on it.. "Compatible with Windows 7"
[20:33] <TheVoid> can anyone help me
[20:33] <TheVoid> :|
[20:34] <concrete_> Even Java is filled with bugs and security issues that's why they keep releasing updates to Java
[20:34] <Penguincsc> CoJaBo: might be a USB 1.1 port
[20:34] <CoJaBo> Gah.
[20:34] <xangua> khmerog: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[20:34] <erik32533> its gets to preparing to install ubuntu it sits there
[20:34] <erik32533> how long do i wait
[20:34] <Penguincsc> what's the proble TheVoid
[20:34] <sintrinsic> Mornin' guys. Anyone have an idea why empathy would allow me to set up accounts and connect with them in the account manager, but give me an error about connecting to the Telepathy Account Manager when I try to open the contact list?
[20:34] <MediaWork> hm
[20:34] <fl1bbl3> they fixed the packaged version of virtualbox?
[20:35] <schultza> which is faster? vbox or kvm?
[20:35] <MediaWork> I want to point out something, suggest something
[20:35] <Galvatron> Penguincsc: How does Oracle compare to Open JDK?
[20:35] <erik32533> be the second ubuntu 12 cd i burned
[20:35] <carl-eric> Hi - in previous ubuntu/gnome versions I could adjust the encoding pipes sound-juicer uses to encode ripped CDs. in 12.04 neither rhythmbox nor sound-juicer allow me any kind of customization anymore. How do I adjust these gstreamer settings now?
[20:35] <TheVoid> Penguincsc, I can't get my DNS cache or w/e it is to clear
[20:35] <xtof_> schultza: kvm -- slightly
[20:35] <TheVoid> on 10.04 lucid lynx
[20:35] <MediaWork> sometime, especially with specular materials, cycle produces fireflies... which seem to be a different kind of noise to the regular noise reduction you get from increasing your samples.
[20:36] <Penguincsc> TheVoid: I don't understand. decribe what are you trying to do
[20:36] <erik32533> hmmmm
[20:36] <erik32533> can someone help
[20:36] <MediaWork> those fireflies dont reduce in noise the same way as the rest of the image.
[20:36] <TheVoid> Penguincsc,
[20:36] <TheVoid> I've updated my DNS servers, yet it's not changing in my system
[20:37] <TheVoid> It's different with other machines with a clean DNS cache
[20:37] <MediaWork> doubling the sampling I have noticed does not fix that ,  but if you render twice with different seeds, and seems also by moving your camera by a small amount.
[20:37] <Penguincsc> Galvatron: I guess it supports more sites, but I bearly use java, just for browsing
[20:37] <TheVoid> It's correct with others.
[20:37] <concrete_> Galvatron, OpenJDK is way behind on updates and security issues and bug fixes, that is why it is best to install Oracle Java
[20:37] <kurtwp_> TheVoid: did you restart or reload your bind
[20:37] <MediaWork> you can get rid of the fireflise much faster.
[20:37] <TheVoid> kurtwp_, heh.
[20:37] <TheVoid> how do i do that
[20:38] <Penguincsc> TheVoid: where did you update you DNS servers?
[20:38] <Galvatron> concrete_: Thanks I guess I'll go for it then.:)
[20:38] <TheVoid> Penguincsc, i changed it from freedns to cloudflare
[20:38] <TheVoid> lol
[20:38] <Cerrdor> I have phpmyadmin installed but when I go to myip/phpmyadmin its not found any ideas?
[20:38] <Penguincsc> TheVoid: is this a server?
[20:38] <TheVoid> no
[20:38] <TheVoid> this is my computer
[20:38] <TheVoid> with a desktop version of ubuntu 10.04 lucid lync
[20:38] <xangua> TheVoid: what he mean to say was, how did you change them¿
[20:38] <kurtwp_> TheVoid: restart your networking
[20:38] <zanberdo> Cerrdor, running apache?
[20:39] <Cerrdor> apache2
[20:39] <Penguincsc> TheVoid: did you add it to a file or used the network manager?
[20:39] <krysten2013> i am installing ubuntu using wubi. how large should my installation size be if I plan on using ROS (robot operating system) and gazebo (robotic simulator)
[20:39] <nemo> Galvatron: I've tried it. not a fan at all
[20:39] <RGErrDay> Hello
[20:39] <TheVoid> restarted lol
[20:40] <nemo> Galvatron: I have no desire to learn a new way of using the app just because people are duplicating the limitations of less powerful window managers
[20:40] <TheVoid> it kept connection because i guess it replied/made a ping to the server in time i guess
[20:40] <xangua> krysten2013: how long do you want it¿ wubi can't get more than 30GB i believe
[20:40] <RGErrDay> Wubi isnt that good imo
[20:40] <TheVoid> still not changed
[20:41] <krysten2013> xanguia: well i currently have 148 GB of free space, I don't want to take up too much space from my C drive
[20:41] <Galvatron> I don't recommend this thing at all - a good way to get some strange issues.
[20:41] <zylv> sd
[20:41] <concrete_> Galvatron, Do you know how to program in Android ?
[20:41] <xangua> !ot | concrete_
[20:41] <Penguincsc> TheVoid: I need to know where did you edit inthe new DNS
[20:42] <TheVoid> Penguincsc, it's updated fine, you don't really need to know where it's edited. But it's edited from dot.tk
[20:42] <TheVoid> my server shows
[20:42] <zanberdo> Cerrdor, check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default to see if there is a virtual directory configured.  You may also check /var/www to see if there is a symlink to your phpmyadmin home folder.
[20:42] <TheVoid> root@internet:~# host viod.tk
[20:42] <TheVoid> viod.tk has address 173.245.60.149
[20:42] <TheVoid> viod.tk has address 173.245.60.58
[20:42] <TheVoid> my pc shows nothing
[20:43] <TheVoid> and for www. it's same for server but on pc
[20:43] <TheVoid> it's not changed
[20:43] <TheVoid> www.viod.tk has address 94.249.215.nope
[20:43] <Penguincsc> TheVoid: what version of Ubuntu?
[20:43] <TheVoid> Penguincsc, 10.04 lucid lynx...
[20:43] <goddard> ubuntu is logging me into Unity 2D even though I clicked the other Unity on login
[20:44] <Penguincsc> TheVoid: what's in the /etc/resolv.conf file?
[20:44] <Cerrdor> zanberdo, I dont see a symlink how do I create one?
[20:44] <TheVoid> # Generated by NetworkManager
[20:44] <TheVoid> domain home
[20:44] <TheVoid> search home
[20:44] <TheVoid> nameserver 192.168.1.254
[20:44] <FloodBot1> TheVoid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <TheVoid> Penguincsc, ^
[20:44] <TheVoid> ugh it was only 4 lines
[20:45] <TheVoid> >.>
[20:45] <CyberSix> lulz
[20:45] <TheWHAT> well that's a nice bot
[20:45] <CyberSix> good bot
[20:45] <zanberdo> Cerrdor, I can't guarantee this is the correct approach! However, if you know the path to phpmyadmin home folder you can create a symlink in /var/www using: sudo ln -s /path/to/phpmyadmin /var/www/phpmyadmin
[20:45] <h00k> !botsnack
[20:46] <zanberdo> Cerrdor, however, as I said, there is no guarantee this will work!
[20:46] <Penguincsc> TheVoid: seems your DNS are managed by your gateway (router)
[20:46] <TheVoid> Penguincsc, my other local machines are resolving it correctly
[20:46] <Penguincsc> TheVoid: do you know hoe to change the settings?
[20:46] <zanberdo> it presumes that apache is configured to follow symlinks, that the permissions to the path are compatible with the access requirements, that there is an index.htm[l] file in your path... there are a lot of things that have to align to be sure this works.
[20:46] <TheVoid> i wonder how it even changed to the router...
[20:47] <TheVoid> it should be set to google's dns..
[20:47] <Penguincsc> TheVoid: so go into the Nework Manager and check it's right
[20:47] <Penguincsc> TheVoid: is the other machine also Linux?
[20:48] <chadi> How do I create a new instance of an app in unity without having to right click > new and without having to type the name of the app?
[20:48] <TheVoid> Penguincsc, yeah, it works fine both on windows and linux
[20:48] <chadi> is there a way to do something like shift + click?
[20:48] <TheVoid> but not on this netbook
[20:48] <Penguincsc> TheVoid: what do you get when you edit the eth0 in the network manager?
[20:49] <TheVoid> Penguincsc, nah i'm on wifi
[20:49] <trism> chadi: middle click
[20:49] <TheVoid> yay
[20:49] <Galvatron> Penguincsc: Oracle installer doesn't automatically purge Open JDK - I had to do so manually.
[20:49] <TheVoid> i set it back to google's dns and it's working now
[20:49] <TheVoid> lol
[20:49] <TheVoid> like all my other machines
[20:49] <TheVoid> i guess i found the problem
[20:49] <Penguincsc> TheVoid: what was it then?
[20:49] <chadi> trism: I don't have a middle click. I'm on a touch screen with a keyboard
[20:50] <Penguincsc> Galvatron: I said "I think" I don't remember... ;-)
[20:50] <TheVoid> Penguincsc, my router was caching dns queries lol
[20:50] <trism> chadi: only combo I am aware of, sorry
[20:50] <Penguincsc> TheVoid: so you restarted the router?
[20:51] <TheVoid> Penguincsc, no i changed my netbooks dns servers back to google... somehow it switched back to my routers
[20:51] <TheVoid> fixed now anyway
[20:51] <Penguincsc> TheVoid: cool
[20:51] <zanberdo> TheVoid, have you considered running your own non-recursive dns such as unbound?
[20:52] <zanberdo> s/non-recursive/recursive
[20:56] <freeky> hello ?
[20:56] <freeky> hiiiiiiiiiii...
[20:57] <ha1dfo> hi, i'm trying to compile a package for myself, and I wonder if you know how to ask debuild to do cross-compilation for me. -- actually no cross-build is needed since the content is just scripts files
[20:57] <Galvatron> !question | freeky
[21:00] <donvito2> !patience
[21:03] <Penguincsc> ping
[21:04]  * Penguincsc has to reboot post-update ;-)
[21:05] <Galvatron> Ehat's going on?
[21:06] <ompaul> what is the correct way to add a shell script to the unity "dash home" bar
[21:08] <ompaul> what is the correct way to add a shell script to the unity launcher might be a better way to describe it
[21:08] <donvito2> how to install apache?
[21:08] <the_cops> give it an extension
[21:08] <the_cops> and drag and drop
[21:09] <the-erm> Does anyone know how to mount a usb drive via the command line?  I've tried "mount" as a user, and searched for hours on fusermount.  xfce will mount drives no problem by clicking the drive on the desktop.  I'm writing a script that should be able to mount the drive without user interaction and without root.
[21:09] <ompaul> the-cops was that directed to me, if so please be aware the script lives in /usr/local/bin/ and is called bman.sh
[21:10] <Shinobi> Does anyone know what I would search under to implement multiuser crud functions in a perl script? Sorry it's off topic.
[21:10] <zanberdo> the-erm, if I'm not mistaken this is handled by udev and a scrip in /etc/udev/rules.d/ but that's about the extent of what I can help with..
[21:11] <the-erm> thanks zanberdo I'll look there.
[21:11] <cloudy> Hi - when doing sudo apt-get update I get a number of 404 or hashsum mismatch
[21:11] <zanberdo> the-erm, if you make any progress, let me know. This is an issue I run into from time to time and I'd love a definitive answer myself! :)
[21:11] <Orukusaki> Idle
[21:12] <zanberdo> cloudy, check your /etc/apt/sources.list and any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d to be sure they are valid url's and valid repos
[21:13] <nekro> hola gente soy nuevo en xchat quisiera arrancar con esto para mantenerme un poco mas comunicado
[21:13] <cloudy> zanberdo, thank you for the information. How do I know what is valid and what is not?
[21:14] <zanberdo> cloudy, hrm, good question. I guess the first thing you can do is navigate to the url and verify that it exists. if you are getting 404 you are likely pointing to outdated repos. what version of ubuntu?
[21:14] <cloudy> zanberdo, sources.list.d is empty
[21:14] <the-erm> zanberdo: the only thing I see in /etc/udev/rules.d/ is what you want your dvd to be labeled, and eth*, wlan* device naming.
[21:14] <cloudy> 12.04, but for arm cpu though
[21:15] <zanberdo> cloudy, having sources.list.d empty is fine. you will need to look at sources.list then. As to the url's for arm, I don't know.
[21:15] <zanberdo> the-erm, yeah, ok, you may need to do some research on udev. sorry I can't offer more guidance
[21:17] <cloudy> zanberdo, ok, if not 404 but hashsum mismatch, what would you suggest?
[21:17] <zanberdo> cloudy, that would make me think that there is something wrong with the repo I have installed, but given that you are running arm there may be another solutions.
[21:20] <cloudy> zanberdo, thank you for your time
[21:20] <zanberdo> cloudy, sorry couldn't be more help. I haven't run into an issue with checksum and repos :(
[21:22] <cloudy> zanberdo, I had it lately also on my desktop install. What I did there was to switch to the main servers, ran update, no issues, then switched back to regional servers, ran update, no issues
[21:23] <zanberdo> cloudy, I've done that myself and haven't run into any issues...
[21:23] <cloudy> zanberdo, I am wondering what is wrong with servers starting with de.archive
[21:24] <charnel> anybody knows where the libpg-dev is ? I cannot install it and it is not in the sources  ?
[21:25] <cloudy> charnel, checking with synaptic didn't bring it up
[21:26] <charnel> cloudy, yep tried it from the console
[21:26] <arooni-mobile> whats the best/easiest way to search for a partial file name in a given directory?  for instance i want to return any file names that might contain the string i'm searching for
[21:26] <charnel> arooni-mobile, grep
[21:26] <escott> arooni-mobile, find . -iname "*pattern*"
[21:27] <trism> charnel: do you mean libpq-dev?
[21:27] <charnel> yes
[21:27] <skylar> arooni-mobile `find . -name *match*` yeah
[21:28] <charnel> trism, It does not exists
[21:29] <charnel> but I need to install it
[21:29] <trism> !info libpq-dev | charnel
[21:29] <trism> charnel: it is in main, if that is what you meant, (PQ not PG (lowercase of course))
[21:29] <ubuntu_> where i can download dvd image with software packages of precise ?
[21:30] <ubuntu_> i mean frm where ?
[21:30] <charnel> trism, thanks
[21:31] <Sidnicious> Hey, I tried following these instructions (linked from the download page) to make a Mac-bootable USB stick: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[21:32] <reisio> Sidnicious: trying is admirable
[21:32] <Sidnicious> It didn't work, the stick doesn't show up as an option to boot from. Threads like http://askubuntu.com/questions/28495/how-do-i-get-my-mac-to-boot-from-an-ubuntu-usb-key suggest that the instructions don't work… what's up here?
[21:33] <myhero> frm where i can download precise dvd image with software packages ?
[21:35] <reisio> myhero: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[21:36] <martinphone> is there a ppa for mkvmerge?
[21:36] <muelli> martinphone: there is search for the PPAs :-)
[21:37] <the-erm> zanberdo: gvfs-mount -d /dev/sdd1 ... it's so simple even puts it in /media/ for you... man that took entirely too long to figure out.
[21:38] <haxxpop> what is the diffent between BIOS and GRUB?
[21:38] <h00k> haxxpop: BIOS is part of your motherboard, GRUB is the bootloader installed on your harddrive
[21:38] <roflmaoYd> haxxpop: if you use grub you can change to bios by using 'sudo rm -rf /'
[21:38] <h00k> !danger
[21:38] <cloudy> haxxpop, BIOS mean basic input output system and is the first piece of software that gets loaded when you power up your pc
[21:38] <muelli> well h00k. One runs off the flash in your motherboard and the other runs off the harddisk. They both do, obviously, totally different things.
[21:39] <Galvatron> Sidnicious: Have you set USB as the first boot device?
[21:39] <h00k> muelli: yes, I'm aware
[21:39] <reisio> furthermore, it won't change the BIOS :p
[21:39] <Sidnicious> Galvatron: Macs don't have that
[21:39] <h00k> :)
[21:39] <muelli> oh, sorry h00k -.-
[21:39] <cog> Hello.  I don't know how to get a DVD to play.  I run 12.04 Edubuntu.
[21:39] <muelli> I meant haxxpop...
[21:39] <Galvatron> Sidnicious: UEFI lacks the option to set a boot priority?
[21:40] <Galvatron> I don't believe it
[21:40] <Galvatron> Check carefully
[21:40] <h00k> Galvatron: good call, it's not true :)
[21:40] <heer> hello
[21:41] <Sidnicious> Galvatron: In Apple's implementation, you can hold down a key when you boot to list all the bootable volumes devices that the system can find, that's it. From the OS, you can set a default volume to boot from (not device, volume).
[21:41] <Sidnicious> s/volumes devices/volumes/
[21:41] <reisio> heer: goodbye
[21:41] <haxxpop> what is the difference between uefi and bios ?
[21:41] <escott> !dvd | cog make sure you follow these instructions
[21:41] <reisio> haxxpop: former is fancier, but other than that not much
[21:42] <Sidnicious> h00k: care to elaborate?
[21:43] <reisio> haxxpop: part of why Galvatron doesn't think it's missing this feature, no doubt
[21:43] <haxxpop> reisio: both're used for the same purpose, right ?
[21:43] <escott> haxxpop, one is the minimal amount needed to boot ibm hardware, the other is substantially larger than the linux kernel
[21:43] <ironhalik> how can I disable auto-away in Empathy?
[21:43] <reisio> haxxpop: pretty much
[21:44] <mouth1> hi
[21:44] <reisio> ironhalik: might ask #gnome
[21:44] <reisio> mouth1: hi
[21:44] <mouth1> does anybody have the samsung nc10 plus jp06 netbook?
[21:44] <reisio> mouth1: yes I'm sure some one has
[21:44] <h00k> Sidnicious: on which?
[21:45] <mouth1> i wanted to ask how good does ubuntu 12.04 run on it
[21:45] <mouth1> :)
[21:45] <reisio> mouth1: nc10+jp06?
[21:45] <haxxpop> what do you think about secure boot feature?
[21:45] <mouth1> reisio: ??
[21:46] <h00k> haxxpop: your questions might be better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic, since they're not necessarily Ubuntu support specific
[21:46] <haxxpop> h00k: okay.
[21:46] <h00k> mouth1: check out the Ubuntu Friendly database, let me grab a link
[21:46] <reisio> haxxpop: fairly irrelevant to most things
[21:46] <OerHeks> mouth1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NC10 looks great OOTB
[21:46] <h00k> mouth1: https://friendly.ubuntu.com/ may help
[21:47] <Sidnicious> h00k: Whether there was a way to set boot order besides choosing which volume to boot from
[21:48] <Galvatron> cog: You'll actually have to purchase a commercial player, unless you're OK with piracy. Medibuntu includes an illegal stuff, including pirated Windows codecs and proprietary commercial DVD-plying components, which by no means are a freeware (you usually pay for them once you purchase any DVD player).
[21:48] <h00k> Sidnicious: well, my motherboard has UEFI, and I have a nifty click/drag interface where I can order boot devices. It depends on what motherboard/UEFI you have.
[21:48] <donvito2> how it is possible i installed phpmyadmin but in web i cant connect to it?
[21:49] <reisio> donvito2: maybe you have to configure it
[21:49] <donvito2> i did
[21:49] <Sidnicious> I guess my base question is if there's a right way to make a bootable Ubuntu USB stick for Mac besides the instructions on the site, since I have found zero reports of anyone using those instructions successfully
[21:49] <donvito2> i reconfigure it
[21:49] <h00k> Sidnicious: I'm not sure how the Macs do it :( Sorry
[21:49] <reisio> Sidnicious: you mean to keep Mac OS?
[21:49] <reisio> for a multi-boot?
[21:49] <iLogical> I have a hercules classic webcam, it works fine in cheese, for instance. It doesn't with skype, even though i did use this command LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so said to have worked in ubuntu karmic. What do I do?
[21:50] <OneFix_Work> Anyone here using SpaceWalk with Ubuntu?
[21:50] <Sidnicious> h00k: yeah, Apple's implementation is a little different, there's no configuration interface at all. To make a bootable Mac OS USB, you just dump the files in an appropriately-formatted partition and it shows up as an option to boot from.
[21:50] <Galvatron> Sidnicious: have you already tried UNetbootin for Mac? in not, then go: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:51] <cog> I installed the codecs at the Edubuntu installation, but Totem usually pops up and plays it. (It doesn't now.)
[21:51] <Sidnicious> Galvatron: "Note that resulting USB drives are bootable only on PCs (not on Macs)." :/
[21:51] <cog> Thank you Galvatron :)
[21:51] <iLogical> the only camera avaiable is /dev/video0
[21:51] <iLogical> in skype
[21:51] <reisio> Sidnicious: sorry was that a yes to my question?
[21:51] <escott> cog, did you manually run the script in /usr/share?
[21:51] <cog> Not to my memory.
[21:51] <h00k> !mac | Sidnicious have you seen these?
[21:51] <donvito2> when i type localhost/phpmyadmin i get this Not Found
[21:52] <escott> !dvd | cog then reread and follow the instructions
[21:52] <Sidnicious> reisio: Well, at the moment I just wanted to use it as a live USB
[21:52] <reisio> Sidnicious: ah
[21:52] <Sidnicious> reisio: How does that change things?
[21:52] <reisio> Sidnicious: now I know what you want :D
[21:52] <Sidnicious> :)
[21:53] <reisio> aetaric: :D
[21:54] <mouth1> is the intel gma 3150 supported? 3d effects too
[21:54] <Sidnicious> h00k: Let me read through sysctl hw.model
[21:54] <Sidnicious> er
[21:54] <Sidnicious> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Oneiric
[21:54] <reisio> mouth1: intel is usually well supported
[21:54] <cog> Why doesn't Totem normally play the DVD then?
[21:55] <cog> Thanks escott :)
[21:55] <aetaric> reisio: yes?
[21:55] <reisio> aetaric: know how to image Ubuntu to boot from an Apple?
[21:55] <xangua> cog: legal issues
[21:55] <aetaric> netboot?
[21:56] <Galvatron> Sidnicious: To tell the truth, I don't see any sense in installing Linux on Mac, while Mac OS is clearly a superior OS, taking a lot of good stuff from both Penguin and Windows, but it's just my opinion. ;)
[21:56] <aetaric> i haven't figured out how to trick the mac's to boot from a network server like you can a pxe client
[21:56] <reisio> aetaric: to boot from a USB from an Apple, sorry
[21:56] <aetaric> oh usb
[21:56] <aetaric> that is cake
[21:57] <reisio> aetaric: Sidnicious is having some trouble
[21:57] <aetaric> hold option and turn it on
[21:57] <reisio> aetaric: now about this cake...
[21:57] <Sidnicious> aetaric: that's how you boot from a network server too
[21:57] <Sidnicious> Or, hold down the N key
[21:58] <aetaric> yes
[21:58] <aetaric> option gives you a list of drives to boot from
[21:58] <aetaric> whereas N just starts the apple netboot nightmare
[21:58] <zykotick9> Sidnicious: fyi, some Macs won't boot gnu/linux from USB
[21:59] <Sidnicious> aetaric: Heh. How would I prepare the USB drive? dd doesn't give me anything that it sees as bootable
[21:59] <Sidnicious> zykotick9: Hurm.
[21:59] <aetaric> erm. use disk utility to make it. convert the iso to a dmg and image the drive from that
[22:00] <aetaric> i've done it before. i just remember it to be a MAJOR pain
[22:00] <Sidnicious> zykotick9: Huh. awesome considering that a few new models that don't ship with optical drives...
[22:00] <aetaric> and i have to do it to install ubuntu as my disc drive is broken
[22:00] <FilipeMaia> Hi. I'm trying to install ubuntu using a DVD on a new desktop. The boot menu shows up, I choose to install but then all I get are some noisy horizontal lines on the screen. What should I do?
[22:00] <Sidnicious> aetaric: you image it with disk utility?
[22:00] <zykotick9> Sidnicious: next time, buy better hardware
[22:00] <escott> !alternate | FilipeMaia, sounds like it might be !nomodeset try !alternate
[22:01] <Sidnicious> zykotick9: I have no desire to have an optical drive.
[22:01] <aetaric> you should be able to
[22:01] <FilipeMaia> escott: I'm not sure I have any blank CDs left. Can I use that with a USB stick?
[22:01] <designbybeck> When you have 2 USB's plug in, how to you tell which one is which via /dev/sdb1 and/dev/sbc ?
[22:02] <designbybeck> sdc
[22:02] <jaqque> hi. upgraded to 12.04. my wallpaper has gone missing. it was from 11.10 or 11.04 or 11.something. i want it back. where can i get it from?
[22:02] <Sidnicious> aetaric: I'll give it a shot, thanks
[22:02] <escott> FilipeMaia, sure
[22:03] <FilipeMaia> escott: how do I burn the image in a USB stick?
[22:03] <reisio> jaqque: was it the defualt wallpaper from 11.10/04?
[22:03] <jaqque> reisio: no, the pretty flower
[22:03] <jaqque> orange
[22:03] <Galvatron> FilipeMaia: Bot is just half-right. You can access the advanced boot options by pressing any key on a purple screen with two symbold on the botton, choosing any language,  then pressing F6. There you can choose "noapic", "acpi=off" and "nomodeset" - all worth trying.
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> FilipeMaia:  i use tools from the pendrivelinus web site
[22:03] <escott> FilipeMaia, if you have an ubuntu install you can use the usb-creator-gtk too
[22:03] <reisio> jaqque: which pretty flower?
[22:03] <FilipeMaia> escott: I only have access to macOSX at the moment
[22:04] <FilipeMaia> Galvatron: I'll give it a try
[22:04] <jaqque> reisio: trying to find it on google right now
[22:04] <reisio> jaqque: do you have an old (even cluttered) screenshot of it?
[22:04] <jaqque> reisio: but it was the one that had the tight focus on one flower and the rest blurred
[22:04] <hikerbiker> on a powerbook g4 tried loading lubuntu powerpc  12.04 but it hangs on a missing wireless driver     is there an update ISO with a fix for this ?
[22:04] <jaqque> reisio: if i did, i would have linked it already :)
[22:04] <Galvatron> FilipeMaia: You don't necessarily need the Alternate, especially that installig from it takes several times longer than a regualr one (I don't know why, but it's my experience at least).
[22:05] <donvito2> how to make /var/www/ to be readaable please
[22:05] <reisio> jaqque: you think you know yourself better than I know yourself?! :p
[22:05] <jaqque> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fUbZQcEL7Tw/TonPzpM6BAI/AAAAAAAAZhQ/meT7GuZ8wl4/s400/Ubuntu+11.10+Oneiric+Ocelot+Wallpapers+%25281%2529.jpg
[22:05] <jaqque> that one
[22:05] <reisio> jaqque: the one as in some official Ubuntu wallpaper?
[22:05] <FilipeMaia> Galvatron: I managed to type e on the grub boot menu and can now change boot options
[22:05] <cryptotheslow> designbybeck, replug one of the usb drives then "tail /var/log/syslog" to see where it mounted - should work
[22:05] <jaqque> it is one of the official, but not the default
[22:05] <reisio> jaqque: :)
[22:05] <dr3mro> hello ; is it possible to make root applications use unity global menu !!!
[22:06] <FilipeMaia> Galvatron: your suggestion is to add acpi=off and nomodeset to the linux line?
[22:06] <designbybeck> oh goodness.. not an easier way ;)? I just moved over the file i neeed to the harddrive anyway, so i can take one out and burn to the other! but thanks cryptotheslow
[22:06] <escott> !ubuntu-wallpapers-precise | jaqque
[22:06] <reisio> jaqque: go to images.google.com, click the little blue camera icon, paste in that URI http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fUbZQcEL7Tw/TonPzpM6BAI/AAAAAAAAZhQ/meT7GuZ8wl4/s400/Ubuntu+11.10+Oneiric+Ocelot+Wallpapers+%25281%2529.jpg you'll get a big copy
[22:06] <hikerbiker> on a powerbook g4 tried loading lubuntu powerpc  12.04 but it hangs on a missing wireless driver     is there an update ISO with a fix for this ?
[22:06] <escott> !info ubuntu-wallpapers-precise | jaqque presumably replace "precise" with your desired release
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> apps running as root - do use the global menu here i belive
[22:06] <cryptotheslow> designbybeck, or just touch a small file onto either oen and see which light flashes :D
[22:06] <cryptotheslow> one*
[22:07] <FilipeMaia> Galvatron: I already see some improvements! I got the the purple screen
[22:07] <jaqque> escott: thank you.i'll let you know if that worked
[22:07] <designbybeck> that would be cool cryptotheslow but i don't think they have lights
[22:07] <designbybeck> or at least i haven't seen it under ubuntu light up
[22:08] <escott> jaqque, just download and install this .deb http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ubuntu-wallpapers
[22:08] <FilipeMaia> I wonder with nomodeset and acpi=off are not the default
[22:08] <jaqque> escott: that was it
[22:08] <jaqque> thank you
[22:08] <FilipeMaia> s/with/why
[22:08] <jaqque> escott: apt-get got it for me
[22:09] <hikerbiker> any ubuntu unsiders here that kno whow to get a 12.04 lubuntu to install ?   hangs on a  missing wireless card driver
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> hikerbiker: perhaps disable/turn off the wireless card - so it dosent try to load drivers for it
[22:10] <reisio> hikerbiker: should be able to install it without networking
[22:10] <reisio> or don't check that 'download updates' option
[22:10] <cryptotheslow> designbybeck, hmmph. Out of suggestions then, I just use syslog
[22:10] <designbybeck> Thanks cryptotheslow
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> i thought i heard of some bug yesterday tht causes system hangs with some wifi driver.. but i dident   get the details
[22:11] <jaqque> okay - that was all i needed! thanks!
[22:12] <hikerbiker> reisio      i'm on a mac   cant turn off the card
[22:12] <hikerbiker> or remove it
[22:12] <sm_> hello everybody
[22:12] <Galvatron> !question | sm_
[22:13] <hikerbiker> i dont need wireless network connection  have ethernet hooked up
[22:13] <hikerbiker> it says its missing a b43 driver    thenn just hangs
[22:14] <sm_> i have a serious problem with my browser , I'm using ubuntu10.4 and my firefox is 4.0.1 ,i upgrade my package now when i want to open the pages that contain flash movie nearly all of them has intrupted , what can i do for  that ?
[22:14] <hikerbiker> i'm trying to load 11.10 now to see if i can get something to happen
[22:14] <LordOfTime> hikerbiker:  you may need to download that driver suing the hardware drivers tool
[22:15] <sm_> is this problem related to my recent upgrad and what if it is true what can i do for that?
[22:15] <cryptotheslow> designbybeck, thinking about it - if you labelled the partitions on the usbs you could use blkid to see where they are mounted
[22:15] <hikerbiker> how can i download it when i'm installing from a CD
[22:15] <sm_> is there anyone using ubuntu?
[22:15] <mykrobinson> quick question. How do I remote connect to another ubuntu 12.04 user who has desktop sharing enabled? He has set desktop sharing to use UPnP and has it enabled. I am trying Remina, but feel I am missing something
[22:15] <reisio> hikerbiker: wasn't my suggestion, doubt you need to
[22:15] <designbybeck> hmm i think they both had 2 diffeneet partiions so i could have tried that
[22:16] <reisio> mykrobinson: should only have to plug in the number (& optional pass) he gives you
[22:16] <mykrobinson> reisio: and use VNC as the protocol?
[22:17] <sm_> please help me i have a serious problem with my browsers after i upgraded my packages
[22:17] <reisio> mykrobinson: that'd be my guess, yes
[22:17] <reisio> sm_: okay help granted
[22:17] <iLogical> So, I am trying to follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1759012 , every command worked, but when I start skype it stills hasn't the camera working or being detected (which cheese detects and works with). When trying to /usr/bin/skype it gives ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. and executes skype. What do I do?
[22:17] <mykrobinson> got it. Thank you
[22:18] <goddard> for some reason when i login it always loads me into ubuntu 2d
[22:18] <goddard> how can i fix it?
[22:18] <escott> iLogical, what version of ubuntu?
[22:18] <iLogical> 12.04
[22:18] <iLogical> LTS
[22:18] <escott> iLogical, /usr/lib32 path is wrong
[22:18] <iLogical> could you say the commands ? :)
[22:18] <reisio> iLogical: you actually tried it without ld_preload first, right?
[22:19] <escott> iLogical, on mine it is /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so, but you should always verify that the file exists when you get an error like that
i'm really sorry you're right
[22:19] <iLogical> reisio,  tried with it
do you want to help me?
[22:20] <cryptotheslow> sm_, use Synaptic to purge and reinstall flashplugin
[22:20] <reisio> sm_: I am indifferent to helping you, but will if I can
[22:21] <iLogical> IT worked thanks escott
you are definitely deserved , i mean you want to give more information about my browsers' problem?
[22:21] <mykrobinson> reisio: any magic tric to triggering the user's dash while in remote session?
[22:23] <OerHeks> sm_, there are more volunteers, just state your problem
[22:24] <sm_> when i check my synaptic flashplugin-installer is check , is it needed to install another package for showing flash movie in the browser ?
[22:24] <Brustofski-Fan> under network.. wireless what is use as hotspot?
[22:25] <OerHeks> sm_, that package should be enough for flash
[22:25] <sm_> and the other problem after upgrading my packages via sudo apt-get upgrade now when i open a page in my browser it is really slow what can i do for that , is it related to my recent upgrade?
[22:26] <Needer_of_Help> drupal/ubuntu noob, I had drupal install working, then installed/uninstalled/reinstalled vmware-workstation and now my drupal is broken - "PDOException: SQLSTATE[HY000] [2002] Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) in lock_may_be_available() (line 167 of /var/www/drupal/includes/lock.inc)."
[22:27] <schultza> why drupal
[22:27] <sm_> what can i reinstall or repair my brower?
[22:27] <FilipeMaia> Galvatron: I've managed to install but now it rebooted and I have the exact same problem, but this time I didn't see any grub menu
[22:27] <genericon> What's the difference between the available kernels?
[22:28] <genericon> I'm installing onto RAID using Ubuntu alternate on a USB stick, and linux-generic-pae failed or something, so I started "install base system" again
[22:28] <genericon> and now I have the option of generic, generic-pae, image-extra, image-generic, image-virtual, and so on
[22:28] <sm_> how can i reinstall my firefox on ubuntu10.4?
[22:28] <cryptotheslow> sm_, reinstall the flashplugin via synaptic. Just right-click on it there and take the "complete removal" option - process that then install it again. Close you browser before starting that
[22:29] <japro> anyone experience using CUDA on 12.04?
[22:29] <escott> !pae | genericon
[22:29] <Brustofski-Fan> genericon, think the pea is for an x86 32 bit with more then 4 gig of ram
my browser is really slow what can i do for this problem?
[22:29] <FilipeMaia> I've just installed ubuntu using nomodeset but now after rebooting I don't see a grub menu and I only get a screen with garbage. What can I do?
[22:30] <cryptotheslow> sm_, are you sure it is the browser and not just your internet connection?
[22:30] <Brustofski-Fan> under network wireless what is the use as hotspot ?
[22:31] <goddard> for some reason when i login it always loads me into ubuntu 2d
[22:31] <goddard> how can i fix it?
[22:31] <japro> Brustofski-Fan, nah, you already need it to use all of your 4gb
[22:31] <AndyZee> hello everybody, does anybody know of a settings file for gnome3 login screen?
yeah i m pinging 4.2.2.4 and the result is as usual or even better , is it possible that ping statement return fake result?
[22:32] <cryptotheslow> FilipeMaia, hold down the shift key as it starts to boot - you should then get the grub menu screen where you can add your nomodeset in
[22:32] <Brustofski-Fan> not me.. i have AMD quad core 64 bit with 6gig ram
[22:32] <schultza> how do i check to see if this machine has 32 bit or 64 bit installed?
[22:32] <cryptotheslow> sm_, unlikely you'd get a fake ping result. Maybe try another browser to test. e.g. chromium
[22:32] <japro> Brustofski-Fan, but with a 64bit version
[22:33] <wawowe> schultza: uname -i
[22:33] <AndyZee> schultza, uname
[22:33] <AndyZee> oh
[22:33] <schultza> ah
[22:33] <japro> you need pae to use all 4gb on a 32bit install
[22:33] <reisio> schultza: what does it matter which is installed?
[22:33] <FilipeMaia> cryptotheslow: any particular shift? I tried the left one with no luck
[22:33] <AndyZee>  does anybody know of a settings file for gnome3 login screen?	
[22:33] <Brustofski-Fan> japro, yep.. i was trying to answer a ? someone eles was asking about the pea kernel
[22:33] <genericon> right, I fugred the pae was about that
[22:33] <schultza> reisio: virtualization
[22:34] <schultza> has better support in 64 bit
[22:34] <reisio> perhaps, trivially better
[22:34] <reisio> the guest is already installed?
[22:34] <schultza> yes
[22:34] <genericon> that was the first thing that came up on google - but what's the difference between virtual and image?
[22:34] <cryptotheslow> FilipeMaia, I thought left shift would do it :/ Maybe that changed
[22:34] <reisio> schultza: so what, you would reinstall if it were a 32-bit guest? :)
[22:34] <FilipeMaia> cryptotheslow: right one also doesn't seem to work
i tested it by chromium but the suitation is the same
[22:34] <schultza> maybe in a few months
[22:34] <reisio> :D
[22:35] <schultza> too bad this computer isn't vt-d... id try out xen right now
[22:35] <reisio> yeah, I'd be watching netflix right now
[22:35] <schultza> yep
[22:35] <schultza> thats one of two reasons why i havent fully switched to linux as the base os
[22:35] <reisio> but I'd also be richer or broker than I am :p
[22:35] <schultza> or the dom0 as xen would refer to i
[22:36] <reisio> netflix not actually that important to me
[22:36] <reisio> but if I had vt-d, and netflix, I'd definitely use it :p
[22:36] <schultza> gaming and netflix are
[22:36] <reisio> I play the game of life
[22:36] <schultza> sometimes i need the distraction
[22:36] <reisio> yeah :)
[22:36] <cryptotheslow> FilipeMaia, you need to be quite quick getting that shift held down. If you can do it while the bios checks are still going through you should catch it.
[22:37] <FilipeMaia> cryptotheslow: of my shift was down for a long time don't worry, my BIOS takes a while
[22:38] <schultza> why is it saying ubuntu-unregged , when i am regged
[22:38] <rahduke> besides disabling auto DHCP how can I make sure that my wired main PC's IP doesn't change and my dedicated wireless clients stay the same as well? I just got a new router and my main IP addy seems to reset every time i reboot
[22:38] <cryptotheslow> FilipeMaia, hmm. Try tapping Esc instead
[22:38] <FilipeMaia> cryptotheslow: Esc durig the purple screen?
[22:38] <cryptotheslow> before
[22:38] <CoJaBo> Is it possible to clone the installer to a hard disk, boot it, and install from there (to the same disk)?
[22:39] <FilipeMaia> cryptotheslow: that's gonna be tricky
[22:39] <cryptotheslow> FilipeMaia, once the purple screen is up grub is done and gone
[22:39] <reisio> CoJaBo: yup
[22:39] <FilipeMaia> cryptotheslow: esc worked!
[22:39] <cryptotheslow> \o/
[22:39] <reisio> FilipeMaia: clearly you aren't using Firefox :p
[22:39] <CoJaBo> reisio: Hm; how would I do that?
[22:39] <reisio> CoJaBo: why would you want to
[22:40] <CoJaBo> reisio: Because it may be the only feasible way to install on a machine that does not have a working CD drive and BIOS cannot boot from USB.
[22:40] <reisio> CoJaBo: is there an OS on it already?
[22:40] <FilipeMaia> cryptotheslow: can I get non graphical terminals in Ubuntu? I tried Ctrl Alt F2 but I didn't see anything
[22:41] <CoJaBo> reisio: Yeh, older kubuntu, Jaunty
[22:41] <reisio> CoJaBo: you could just upgrade that
[22:41] <CoJaBo> I can't simply upgrade, as the package manager is thoroghly screwed.
[22:41] <reisio> CoJaBo: you could unscrew it, but :)
[22:41] <reisio> CoJaBo: yes you can also tell the boot loader to boot an install image
[22:41] <CoJaBo> If i could unscrew it, I actually wouldn't need to upgrade lol..
[22:41] <genericon> besides PAE, what's the difference between the kernels?  "image" "virtual" "extra" and "generic"?
[22:41] <cryptotheslow> FilipeMaia, now time to look up how to make that nomodeset thing permanent. I think you need to edit /etc/default/grub to suit then run update-grub. But check that out I'm going off memory
[22:42] <reisio> heh
[22:42] <CoJaBo> reisio: How? Grub works, but there seems no way to get it to boot cd.
[22:42] <FilipeMaia> cryptotheslow: ok thanks
[22:42] <reisio> CoJaBo: is it GRUB2?
[22:42] <CoJaBo> No, grub1
[22:42] <reisio> CoJaBo: mmm
[22:42] <reisio> CoJaBo: IIRC it's simpler from GRUB2
[22:42] <reisio> CoJaBo: you might want to try installing GRUB2 the hard way
[22:42] <Zackington> is there any backtrack support on here?
[22:43] <CoJaBo> I have an external CD drive, but the BIOS doesn't even try to boot from it
[22:43] <genii-around> !backtrack
[22:43] <reisio> CoJaBo: min I can never find that GRUB1 image boot link
[22:43] <cryptotheslow> FilipeMaia, Ctrl Alt F1 to F6 should give you a tty once booted. If not working, boot to recovery mode from the grub menu and drop to root shell to make your edits
[22:43] <xangua> Zackington: /join #backtrack-linux
[22:43] <reisio> CoJaBo: some BIOSes require you to actually remove the hard disk as a potential boot source before they will, despite the order being applied properly
[22:44] <FilipeMaia> cryptotheslow: ok thanks for the help. I'm out of batery so have to log off. Bye!
[22:44] <cryptotheslow> cya
[22:44] <CoJaBo> reisio: I can disable it in the order, but then it just says theres no bootable media
[22:44] <reisio> CoJaBo: okay, some also just suck :p
[22:44] <reisio> CoJaBo: let me find that freaking bookmark, hang on
[22:44] <CoJaBo> lol.. Its a dell :/
[22:44] <reisio> CoJaBo: old one, I guess
[22:45] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: There is still the option of the minimal install as I started to explain.
[22:45] <CoJaBo> Not even that old; came with Vista originally
[22:45] <Guest24663> Hey everyone, just a quick question about mantel, am I in the right place?
[22:45] <reisio> I know I have it bookmarked, but it must have an awful title
[22:45] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: What happened when you tried to boot from the USB drive after dd'ing the iso to it though?
[22:45] <CoJaBo> Jordan_U: Nothing, it just ignored it.
[22:46] <Jordan_U> CoJaBo: Did the USB drive boot successfully on another machine?
[22:46] <Galvatron> genii-around: To tell the truth, I see no problem with supporting Mint here, since "Mint" itself: is just an addon set for Ubuntu and makes a very minor changes (you can easily add and remove it from an existing installation - I already did so once).
[22:47] <Galvatron> Backtrack or Trisquel is a completely different story though.
[22:47] <Jordan_U> !mint | Galvatron
[22:47] <schultza> not everyone in ubuntu needs to know the tweaks mint has put in...
[22:48] <schultza> !ot
[22:48] <Guest24663> On ubuntu wiki about mantel, there's documentation for macbookpro4.1 and Ubuntu9. I want to install 12.04. Am I right in thinking I can just follow the same wiki for 9 but with 12? Never done mantel stuff before, but have a few pure ubuntu boxes around
[22:48] <Galvatron> These are just some few programs and graphical motives - nothing important
[22:48] <CoJaBo> ..Actually, I have another old laptop, I muight just be able to replace the CD drive afterall....
[22:48] <CoJaBo> Forgot i even had this one
[22:48] <Galvatron> I can add or remove "Mint" anytime, with absolutely no problem
[22:50] <reisio> CoJaBo: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/MEMDISK#ISO_images
[22:51] <reisio> CoJaBo: you could also pop the drive out and install from another computer and then pop it back in
[22:51] <Jordan_U> reisio: Memdisk will only work with the minimal iso, and in that case it's easier and more sane to simply load the netboot kernel and initrd directly.
[22:51] <reisio> CoJaBo: just have to make sure critical drivers are included: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ (textarea)
[22:52] <reisio> Jordan_U: why's that
[22:52] <genericon> ok so I figured out that my problem with installing ubuntu alternative is that it can't find the kernel on the archives
[22:52] <rahduke> besides disabling auto DHCP how can I make sure that my wired main PC's IP doesn't change and my dedicated wireless clients stay the same as well? I just got a new router and my main IP addy seems to reset every time i reboot
[22:53] <genericon> it suggests doing apt-get update or fix-missing... how do I do that?
[22:53] <genii-around> rahduke: Most routers have the ability to always assign the same IP to the same MAC address
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> rahduke: the wired connections you can define in /etc/network/interfaces if you want, and you can then uninstall network manager
[22:54] <Cerrdor> when I tried to update my domain to my IP it says Invalid ZTLD?
[22:54] <mcphail> rahduke: set static IPs for all of your devices or configure your router to hand out defined addresses to each client
[22:54] <CoJaBo> reisio: Its 64-bit, I don't have another 64-bit computer.  I did find another CD drive (internal), fingers crossed it even stillworks O_O
[22:54] <cryptotheslow> rahduke, have a look if your router supports fixed IP allocations via dhcp. most do
[22:54] <Cerrdor> TLD
[22:54] <Jordan_U> reisio: Because memdisk only fools bootloaders and DOS. Once an OS with real drivers (like Linux's) starts it will look for a CD in the physical drive and fail to find it. You can tell the kernel / initrd scripts to find the iso file on a hard drive, but that requires passing special kernel parameters (which memdisk by its nature can't do).
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> rahduke: you can define the addressing in network manager instead, if you prefer a GUI
[22:54] <reisio> Jordan_U: but why would it be easier to netboot?
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> rahduke: set the static IPs at the top end of your network range so that DHCP addresses don't clash
[22:55] <reisio> CoJaBo: heheh
[22:55] <heer> hi
[22:55] <CoJaBo> reisio: OMG it does
[22:55] <CoJaBo> OMG
[22:55] <reisio> amazin(fruit)
[22:55] <reisio> heer: wb
[22:55] <everson> portugues?
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> !pt
[22:55] <rahduke> crytpotheslow: thats what i was looking to do
[22:55] <CoJaBo> Its been sitting up there for almost 10 years -_-'
[22:55] <everson> algm?
[22:56] <Jordan_U> reisio: I didn't say it would be easier to netboot, I said it would be easier to load the netboot kernel and initrd directly (the "minimal" iso is an iso containing the netboot kernel and initrd). I understand how that wasn't at all clear though :)
[22:56] <reisio> CoJaBo: nice
[22:56] <rahduke> ActionParsnip: ill have a look
[22:56] <reisio> Jordan_U: oh still with memdisk?
[22:56] <everson> algum brazuca on?
[22:56] <Jordan_U> reisio: No, directly via grub.
[22:56] <everson> hehehehe
[22:56] <cryptotheslow> rahduke, what router is it? although it's probably OT for #ubuntu :(
[22:56] <everson> portuguess
[22:56] <rahduke> Linksys e1200
[22:56] <rahduke> whats OT?
[22:56] <cryptotheslow> off topic
[22:56] <xangua> !pt | everson
[22:57] <reisio> mmm
[22:57] <rahduke> ActionParsnip: are you telling me to goto network manager change from Auto DHCP to manualand set the address from there w/ dns servers and all?
[22:57] <everson> sala brazuca
[22:57] <everson> algm on
[22:57] <reisio> aeoueouaeuo
[22:58] <everson> lol
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> rahduke: yes you will need to set IP and DNS
[22:59] <cryptotheslow> rahduke, page 29 and 30 of the manual available here: http://homesupport.cisco.com/en-us/wireless/linksys/E1200  covers dhcp ip reservations on that box
[22:59] <rahduke> ActionParsnip: so basically just copy the info from my current connection information and set the IP to what i want it to be?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> rahduke: should be fine, yes. You can get the DNS servers with:  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[23:00] <rahduke> ActionParsnip: netmask and subnetmask are the same thing right?
[23:00] <CoJaBo> ...aaand, the installer (kubuntu) just freezes.
[23:00] <genericon> I'm confused as to how it can be unable to resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com in the installer but ping on a different console works just fine
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> rahduke: yes, same difference
[23:01] <dejan_spasic> hi folks
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo: did you upgrade the installer before running it?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo: assuming you have web access
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> genericon: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null      then retry
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> genericon: actually, remove the '-a' from that :)
[23:03] <genericon> how do you override the archive hostname to replace it with an IP?  that might fix the problem?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> genericon: thats what the command I gave actually does :)
[23:03] <dejan_spasic> if i mount a network storage over smb with nautius where can i find the location of the mounted storage?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> genericon: well, its a different DNS to try
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> genericon: you could add an entry in /etc/hosts for the name to IP conversion if you want
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> dejan_spasic: ~/.gvfs
[23:04] <Blue1> dejan_spasic: depends on the mount point you specifiy in the mount
[23:05] <dejan_spasic> ActionParsnip: okay. thats all ;) thank you!
[23:07] <xangua> (18:02:33) ActionParsnip: genericon: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null      then retry - works on precice¿
[23:07] <CoJaBo> ActionParsnip: It was trying to compute how much space it could save by resizing the partition I intended to erase -_-'   I just did a `killall ntfsresize` in terminal and it came back to life lol
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo: ha, awesmoe
[23:09] <reisio> narrator: but then CoJaBo began to question what other things after being killed completely would start behaving better! (DUN DUN DUN!)
[23:10] <CoJaBo> Heh. Nothin beats a good ol killall -9 :P
[23:11] <blackshirt> CojaBo: i don't think so
[23:11] <wolfric> how can i set fstab to not require a drive to be present in order to boot. i tried nofail option but that didn't work, i still get an option saying "press to skip mounting or press m for manual recovery'. I still want the option there to mount it if it's available though
[23:12] <wolfric> nvm, should have googled the error, going to try nobootwait
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: add 'noauto' as an option
[23:13] <wolfric> noauto won't even mount it if it is there though right?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: yes, but you can add an entry in /etc/rc.local to make it attempt to mount :)
[23:14] <wolfric> nobootwait was actually what i wanted but cheers
[23:15] <roaje> hey, do you guys know how i can disable the crash report tool?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: sweet (mental note)
[23:17] <genii-around> roaje: Uninstall apport
[23:18] <roaje> genii-around: excellent thank you much
[23:18] <roaje> have a great day
[23:19] <harushimo> i'm using virtual box. Is it possible to have a desktop shortcut on ubuntu?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: desktop shortcut to what?
[23:20] <harushimo> for my virtual machine
[23:20] <harushimo> I think I just figured it out
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: what, to launch it, or to access the files??
[23:20] <harushimo> both
[23:20] <harushimo> I want to be launch and access it without using sudo
[23:20] <[yates]> i have an nfs mount over ethernet, transfer rates start at 30-40mbps but then drop to 12mps after a while, the same with usb actually, is there anyway to debug this?
[23:20] <reisio> course
[23:20] <harushimo> in order for me run virtual box. I need to do sudo
[23:20] <reisio> harushimo: think you can still just right-click and add a launcher
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: ln -s /usr/share/applications/virtualbox.desktop ~/Desktop/VirtualBox.desktop
[23:20] <reisio> harushimo: otherwise you can add a .desktop file to Desktop/
[23:21] <harushimo> I did that
[23:21] <reisio> yeah like that, only a shell script using sudo instead
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: use TAB to autocomplete the file names
[23:21] <reisio> if that's really what you want
[23:21] <reisio> harushimo: did you not add your user to the vboxusers group?
[23:21] <harushimo> I didn't know it had that
[23:21] <harushimo> I just started using vbox like 4 days ago
[23:21] <reisio> better check 'groups userhere'
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: to access the files, the only way I can think is to set the network in the virtualbox to 'bridged' then install samba or similar and it will appear as a system on your LAN
[23:22] <harushimo> I'm still not use to the program
[23:22] <harushimo> ok
[23:22] <reisio> what files?
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: then you can just access it like the other systems you may be sharing on :)
[23:22] <harushimo> oh cool
[23:22] <harushimo> I didn't know this at all
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: or install openssh-server and you will get an SFTP server
[23:24] <harushimo> ok I will do that
[23:24] <myhero> whats the diff between 1.6gb live dvd iso and 600+mb desktop iso when it ccan also be used live ???
[23:24] <robertzaccour> does installing kdenlive also install everything ffmpeg?
[23:24] <xangua> myhero: the dvd has language files...that's all
[23:24] <myhero> and what about 4.7gb dvd iso ?
[23:25] <myhero> xangua: and what about 4.7gb dvd iso ?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> myhero: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=820455
[23:27] <Needer_of_Help> had drupal working, then installed/uninstalled/reinstalled vmware-workstation, now drupal gives this error: "PDOException: SQLSTATE[HY000] [2002] Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) in lock_may_be_available() (line 167 of /var/www/drupal/includes/lock.inc)." and sudo start mysql gives start: Job failed to start
[23:27] <ipproblem> So, how do you fix the "unable to resolve hostname" problem in the text-based gui installer?
[23:27] <ipproblem> I can ping them in another virtual console so there's nothing wrong with the internet connection
[23:28] <myhero> i wnat to try ubuntu kubuntu lubuntu xubuntu medibuntu edubuntu and etc all....so i have to download mb's or gb's of iso for every distro ?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> ipproblem: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> myhero: you can install each desktop on the same ubuntu, you will just choose the desktop at login
[23:29] <ipproblem> oh ok
[23:29] <ipproblem> ActionParsnip: I'll give that a shot
[23:30] <CoJaBo> Needer_of_Help: Reinstalling VMware will change your network adaptors- probably some network config is looking for the wrong name somewhere.
[23:30] <myhero> ActionParsnip: so that will be full setup iso installed on top of same ubuntu or it will be just DE ?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> myhero: just the DE and the apps for the DE
[23:31] <heexx> Why is it so fu**ing hard to install OB?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> myhero: at log in you will use the cog menu next to your name in lightdm and select the desktop to use
[23:31] <Needer_of_Help> CojaBo say a few more words, noob here
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> myhero: you could download the live CD ISOs and have grub2 boot them if you want, bit more effort
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> heexx: what is OB?
[23:31] <myhero> ActionParsnip: how to do it ?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> myhero: not something I've done but I know grub2 can boot stored ISO files.
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> heexx: ob == openbox?
[23:32] <Jordan_U> myhero: Download the isos and then follow http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F
[23:32] <myhero> ohh means i'll hve to just store boot iso on hdd n it will boot frm it ?'
[23:33] <Jordan_U> myhero: Yup.
[23:33] <myhero> ok
[23:33] <myhero> but now the same question.....how do i get all other versions on top of ubuntu ?
[23:34] <CoJaBo> Needer_of_Help: I'm guessing its probably an issue with the mysql server- is it running? Sometimes they wont even start if the network config changes
[23:34] <Cerrdor> trying to move a wordpress directory and I keep getting this error:: root@cerrdor:/var/www# cp /var/www/wordpress/wp-admin/ /var/www
[23:34] <Cerrdor> cp: omitting directory `/var/www/wordpress/wp-admin/'
[23:34] <myhero> i'll just hve to get DE and apps but how to get them n store them for afterwards live session ?
[23:34] <heexx> ActionParsnip: Yes.
[23:34] <CoJaBo> Cerrdor: cp -R
[23:35] <Cerrdor> ohh
[23:35] <yeats> myhero: just do 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' (and so on for the others)
[23:35] <Cerrdor> before the Directory named?
[23:35] <CoJaBo> Cerrdor: Yeh, by default itll skip dirs- -R is the recursive option
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> heexx: sudo apt-get install openbox
[23:35] <yeats> myhero: just note that all programs will be available in each DE
[23:35] <donvito2> !webmin
[23:35] <heexx> ActionParsnip: Then why do I find pages and pages of long GUIDES(!) to install it?
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | donvito2
[23:35] <myhero> but that will download n install but how i store it locally so as to use them afterwards also ?
[23:36] <donvito2> thanks ActionParsnip
[23:36] <this_is_a_un> myhero, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> heexx: because they aren't specifically for Ubuntu, the repos have openbox on them. Did you not think to search software centre first / use apt-cache ?
[23:36] <Needer_of_Help> CoJaNo mysqladmin -u root -p status
[23:36] <Needer_of_Help> Enter password:
[23:36] <Needer_of_Help> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[23:36] <Needer_of_Help> error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
[23:36] <Needer_of_Help> Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
[23:36] <FloodBot1> Needer_of_Help: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:37] <heexx> ActionParsnip: So it's easy for Ubuntu, but not for other distros?
[23:37] <Needer_of_Help> oops
[23:37] <Cerrdor> CoJaBo, thnx so much
[23:38] <gkatsev> anyone used ndiswrapper? Trying to install wifi driver and it installs fine but `modprobe ndiswrapper' gives me a `FATAL module ndiswrapper not found.'
[23:39] <heexx> ActionParsnip: Hello?!?!?!?!
[23:41] <OerHeks> heexx, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox
[23:41] <ipproblem> ActionParsnip: I tried the command you listed but tee isn't on my Busybox ash shell...
[23:42] <bitonic> ppas don't seem to work tonight. is it only me?
[23:42] <heexx> OerHeks: Jesus Christ!
[23:42] <heexx> OerHeks: **** that. :/
[23:42] <OerHeks> heexx, for other distro's: why should we care?
[23:43] <reisio> heexx: you just install it and run openbox-session after stopping GDM
[23:44] <heexx> reisio: And that would look like shit if not configured for days?
[23:44] <Hilikus> i have a friend trying to install ubuntu. he left an unformatted partition in his harddrive. is there any way in the installer to tell ubuntu to take that region and do everything it needs with it? i don't want to tell him to manually create /, /boot and swap
[23:45] <OerHeks> hilikus sure, if that partition is >4.4Gb
[23:45] <Jordan_U> Hilikus: I think that's one of the default options, it certainly used to be years ago.
[23:45] <Hilikus> it is
[23:45] <Taksas027> was it harmless to run sudo apt-get autoremove?
[23:46] <Hilikus> he says that the only option thats automatic tries to shrink his windows partition even more to give the space to ubuntu instead of taking the already empty one
[23:46] <OerHeks> Taksas027, it "is" harmless.
[23:46] <reisio> heexx: it'd look the same as it ever looks
[23:48] <trism> gkatsev: ndiswrapper is not included with the kernel in 12.04, install ndiswrapper-dkms
[23:48] <dr3mro> ubuntu has came a long way towards maturity in 12.04 but still needs alot !!
[23:48] <reisio> a_lot
[23:48] <reisio> what doesn't
[23:48] <gkatsev> trism: ah. thanks.
[23:48] <danny> hello how do i google search strait from the unity hud
[23:51] <Browser> Hello everyone
[23:51] <eR^zeRa`> i believe the proper greeting around here is hello world
[23:52] <wlightning> can anyone recommend a gui (non web based) document manager/virtual filing cabinet software.. preferably something I could easily scan all my bills into and tag them for later access
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> reisio: i was thinking that
[23:52] <wlightning> ?
[23:52] <dr3mro> hello , I have patched some packages and want to make them into the official repositories .. they are in my PPA !! what to do ?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> dr3mro: so does mac, so does windows...
[23:53] <xclusive585> I really would like to know how you can request a package be built and added to the Ubuntu repository. Especially one that has a proven PPA already
[23:53] <Browser> I have added Guake to application that Ubuntu execute to startup , but Ubuntu doesn't open it. Why?
[23:54] <gkatsev> trism: should I be following this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper) or is there a better guide?
[23:54] <dr3mro> ActionParsnip, No but ubuntu has become a longer way .. it's now more mature to me than windows and onlycompetes with mac
[23:56] <dr3mro> ActionParsnip, ubuntu only needs to have a more professional applications like video editors ( pro ) not amature apps like now and a more options for customization in the ubuntu settings center and make ubuntuy tweak and my unity useless
[23:56] <Kasplodey> Browser, how did you add it?
[23:57] <werder> Browser: Guake is a drop-down terminal, right?
[23:57] <Browser> Yes.
[23:58] <werder> Browser: well it won't show up when you start, you have to press F12 to drop it down
[23:58] <Browser> Kasplodey:  from the menu of Ubuntu. I added the order: guake.
[23:58] <Browser> Yes, but guake is not open.
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> dr3mro: there are more interfaces than unity :)
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> Browser: press F12
[23:59] <werder> Browser: you mean the process hasn't started, right?
[23:59] <Browser> Yes yes. doesn't work
[23:59] <Browser> werder: yes
[23:59] <werder> Browser: ok, so Guake works when you start it manually?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> Browser: if you run:  ps -ef | grep guake     is it running ?
[23:59] <Browser> ActionParsnip:  i have to run guake , if not doesn't work f12