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| JamesTait | Morning all! :) | 10:33 |
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| karni | Morning guys :) | 10:44 |
| gatox | good morning! | 11:04 |
| mandel | gatox, morning! | 11:09 |
| gatox | mandel, how are you?? we have u1-cp fixed in jenkins! :D | 11:10 |
| mandel | gatox, hurray! | 11:11 |
| mandel | gatox, here everything ok, although I need some reviews from you for the fsevents daemon | 11:11 |
| mandel | gatox, if you can read c++ you can read objective-c :) | 11:11 |
| gatox | mandel, ah yes..... i'll do it right now | 11:12 |
| mandel | gatox, thx! | 11:13 |
| mandel | gatox, read the code and ask any question I'd like you to also be able to at least understand it | 11:13 |
| gatox | mandel, ack! | 11:14 |
| gatox | mandel, i'll fix the headers of the files, it says: // Copyright (c) 2012 __MyCompanyName__. All rights reserved. | 11:45 |
| mandel | gatox, there is another branch for that with no code changes :) | 11:45 |
| gatox | mandel, ahhhh ok jeje | 11:46 |
| mandel | gatox, i don't want to add noise to a code review | 11:46 |
| gatox | of course | 11:46 |
| gatox | mandel, the modified files looks fine for me..... i'm reviewing the new files now, i found a little typo at this moment: // assert that the correct metho type is received | 12:17 |
| gatox | in: objc/FsEventsTests/FsEvents/FSEventsDispatcherTests.m | 12:17 |
| mandel | gatox, cool, can you add the error to the mp please? | 12:17 |
| gatox | ok | 12:17 |
| mandel | gatox, I'm got a feeling you will find more than one | 12:18 |
| gatox | mandel, it's silly..... but better to fix it now that the file is new, that see it appear mix with some code in the future | 12:18 |
| mandel | gatox, 100000 time agreed :) | 12:19 |
| mandel | ok, lunch! | 12:34 |
| gatox | mandel, message added to the MP | 12:44 |
| gatox | mandel, i added a trace of the compilation failing too | 12:44 |
| ralsina | morning! | 12:56 |
| dobey | hi | 13:05 |
| gatox | ralsina, dobey hi | 13:06 |
| alecu | mandel, https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-fsevents-daemon/add-run-tests/+merge/106227 | 13:09 |
| ralsina | mandel, alecu: do you guys remember why ussoc on windows doesn't die of timeout like on linux? | 13:14 |
| ralsina | mandel, alecu: I know we had a good reason, but can't remember it | 13:14 |
| ralsina | mandel, alecu: and it may be time to reconsider it | 13:14 |
| alecu | ralsina, I think the reason was "we can make it behave properly later" | 13:15 |
| ralsina | alecu: because it was doing things like starting twice, right? | 13:15 |
| alecu | ralsina, can't recall. nessita is the one with the prodigal memory for this kind of things. | 13:16 |
| * alecu can hardly recall what he ate yesterday. | 13:16 | |
| alecu | oh, fish it was. | 13:16 |
| * alecu smells t-shirt | 13:16 | |
| alecu | fish it was. | 13:17 |
| * mandel back | 13:43 | |
| mandel | gatox, i have not looked at the trace, but did you add OCMock to the path? | 13:44 |
| mandel | ralsina, alecu, AFAIK the process will start, die and will never start again | 13:44 |
| gatox | mandel, my bad..... forget to read the description of the change | 13:45 |
| gatox | trying that now | 13:45 |
| mandel | gatox, :) | 13:45 |
| mandel | gatox, no worries, if I know the issue without looking it means that I expected that to happen hehehe | 13:45 |
| mandel | alecu, interesting the segfault, which revno is that? | 13:46 |
| briancurtin | elopio: on your machine that has this testability stuff, where is testability.dll and did it come with PyQt or did you install it separately? | 13:46 |
| gatox | mandel, can you show me your path please..... so i can find it easier | 13:48 |
| mandel | gatox, with xcode 4 it should be in /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Library/Frameworks | 13:49 |
| mandel | gatox, or you can configure the env var :) | 13:49 |
| gatox | mandel, thx | 13:50 |
| alecu | mandel, I got the segfault with trunk + your branch merged in. | 13:50 |
| mandel | gatox, I placed it there for convenience | 13:50 |
| mandel | alecu, that probably means that the run shell got merged wrong, can you pastebin it? | 13:50 |
| mandel | alecu, I might need to fix the way it merges agains trunk | 13:50 |
| ralsina | briancurtin: I don't know where it comes from but I know we will have trouble with it because it's a plugin | 13:51 |
| ralsina | briancurtin: and plugins don't work well with py2exe | 13:51 |
| alecu | mandel, bzr says that run-tests.sh was freshly created, not merged. | 13:51 |
| mandel | alecu, hm.. weird, let me check | 13:52 |
| mandel | alecu, oh, is the run-tests branch, I know what that happens it uses otest directly, give me 2 mins and is fixed :) | 13:53 |
| alecu | ralsina, briancurtin: do we really want testability.dll in our installer? Though I suppose it might make sense for the nightlies. | 13:53 |
| briancurtin | if i can find out how to make it work, i'd only package it on a test build | 13:54 |
| briancurtin | so add some type of flag, or change the SHOW_CMD option to TEST_BUILD and key it off that | 13:54 |
| mandel | alecu, fix pushed, you should not longer have that segfault | 13:55 |
| ralsina | alecu: just for nightlies yes | 13:58 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, i'm getting this: | 13:59 |
| gatox_mac | ** BUILD SUCCEEDED ** | 13:59 |
| gatox_mac | Running tests | 13:59 |
| gatox_mac | xcodebuild: error: The project 'FsEvents' does not contain a scheme named 'FsEvents'. | 13:59 |
| gatox_mac | any clues? | 13:59 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, uhm.. weird, there should be an fsevents scheme, can you please open the project in xcode? | 13:59 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, the scheme is that thing next to the stop button, can you let me know what it has? | 14:00 |
| gatox_mac | opening... | 14:01 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, wait… it's installing some components before continuing | 14:02 |
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| mandel | gatox_mac, hm.. interesting | 14:04 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, so… i double click the .xcodeproj file Xcode opens and says: workspace integrity: couldn't load fsevens.xcodeproj | 14:07 |
| mandel | gatox, wtf?! that is new to me.. | 14:08 |
| dobey | hrmm | 14:08 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, does it offer any fixing? | 14:08 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, i don't see anything to fix it | 14:09 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, mmm it seems to be fix if i reopen | 14:09 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, trying to run the tests again | 14:10 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, if that works, can you do a bzr diff and tell me what changed? | 14:10 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, now: xcodebuild: error: Failed to build project FsEvents with scheme FsEvents. | 14:10 |
| gatox_mac | Reason: Scheme "FsEvents" is not testable. | 14:10 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, give me a sec, I'll test it using my test account | 14:11 |
| gatox_mac | ok | 14:11 |
| dobey | everyone! | 14:11 |
| gatox_mac | dobey, yes? | 14:11 |
| mandel | hello! | 14:12 |
| dobey | please don't set branches to "Approved" for merging into trunk for now. there is a problem with tarmac, which needs to be resolved first | 14:12 |
| mandel | ack | 14:12 |
| dobey | am trying to get it fixed | 14:12 |
| gatox_mac | dobey, ack | 14:12 |
| dobey | wtf | 14:18 |
| dobey | "Lote de 100 fontes de chocolate a menos de metade do valor de mercado!" | 14:19 |
| dobey | con churros! | 14:19 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, I managed to reproduce the issue, xcode is stupid.. | 14:22 |
| gatox | mandel, it seems that the rule is: "if you want to know if something really works.... it has to go through any of my machines" jeje | 14:22 |
| mandel | gatox, is more of, IDE usually are stupid :) | 14:24 |
| gatox | mandel, i have nothing to say jeje | 14:25 |
| mandel | gatox, I'm about to push the change.. only if people that wrote IDEs could make it simple to know which files are per user and which not.. | 14:26 |
| gatox | mandel, well... i know of an ide that is really cool and create only one file in the project folder and it's for the user jejeejej | 14:27 |
| ralsina | dobey: that's portuguese not spanish! | 14:28 |
| mandel | ralsina, or spanish with a churro in your mouth hehehe | 14:28 |
| gatox | mandel, jejejjee | 14:29 |
| gatox | stupid bug!! | 14:29 |
| * gatox gets angry | 14:29 | |
| dobey | heh | 14:30 |
| mandel | gatox, I fix the issue pushing now | 14:31 |
| gatox | mandel, ok..... running the tests | 14:32 |
| mandel | gatox, revno 25 | 14:32 |
| mmcc | morning folks! | 14:32 |
| mandel | gatox, turns out that you have to explicitly tell xcode that a scheme is shared or it will placed in the userdata | 14:33 |
| mmcc | my connection died 7 hours ago, so I'm already caught up! | 14:33 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014864/ | 14:35 |
| mandel | mmcc, did you hear anything from the ocmock guys? | 14:35 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, revno? | 14:36 |
| mmcc | mandel: just going thru email now | 14:36 |
| dobey | oh, pylint. grmbl | 14:36 |
| dobey | must get rid of that junk | 14:36 |
| mandel | dobey, yes | 14:36 |
| gatox | well..... maybe in half an hour after running ubuntuone-client tests i'll be able to propose the branch... :@ | 14:38 |
| mmcc | mandel, I did get a response from Erik, the OCMock guy: | 14:38 |
| mmcc | he said: "let me state first that I am not a lawyer. That said, my intent and interpretation of this part of the license is that the attribution is required for the actual use of OCMock. I don't think your file sync client uses OCMock. I assume OCMock is only used during the development of the file sync client. Again, I am not a lawyer, but to me this sounds like attribution would only be required when you talk about the developmen | 14:38 |
| mmcc | your software." | 14:38 |
| mandel | gatox, so which revno is giving you that error? | 14:38 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, 25 | 14:39 |
| mmcc | also ralsina, see my ircspam above ^ | 14:39 |
| gatox_mac | is that ok? | 14:39 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, yes, can you open xcode, add edit the scheme | 14:39 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, yes… | 14:39 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, in the name next to the stop, there is a context menu | 14:39 |
| ralsina | mmcc: the number of people who is not a lawyer and writes licenses never ceases to amaze | 14:39 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, yes | 14:40 |
| ralsina | mmcc: short answer, I don't know | 14:40 |
| mmcc | so it sounds like he is OK with how we want to use it, but I'm not sure if we're exactly on the same page | 14:40 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, i'm in edit scheme | 14:40 |
| ralsina | mmcc: longer answer, let's move on with it | 14:40 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, there in the test tab can you open it? | 14:40 |
| ralsina | mmcc: you mentioned chrome used it? If it did and is gpl, then we are in good shape | 14:40 |
| mmcc | ralsina: move on with using OCMock? | 14:41 |
| * ralsina assumes google has lawyers | 14:41 | |
| ralsina | mmcc: yes | 14:41 |
| dobey | haha | 14:41 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, yes… already there | 14:41 |
| dobey | chrome or chromium? | 14:41 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, in the panel of the right, is there a bundle called FsEventsTests? | 14:41 |
| mmcc | ralsina: chrome does use it but I need to check their license. and the commit comment thread I found discussing it had a lot of "uh, I'm not a lawyer but this seems fine" | 14:41 |
| dobey | chrome is not GPL | 14:42 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, or a screenshot please :) | 14:42 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, yes | 14:42 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, ok… screenshot | 14:42 |
| dobey | and people probably misread the license | 14:42 |
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| mmcc | chromium: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28291 | 14:42 |
| dobey | does chrome include a statement advertising that it's using OCMock created by whoever that guy is that created it? | 14:42 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, do you know what would be awesome?? if u1 was working in mac, it would be easier to share the screenshots… jejejejejee recursion! | 14:43 |
| ralsina | chrome is BSD | 14:43 |
| dobey | chrome is proprietary | 14:44 |
| ralsina | chromium | 14:44 |
| dobey | chromium is a lot of mess | 14:44 |
| dobey | it's not all bsd | 14:44 |
| ralsina | damn, chromium licensing is a collage | 14:44 |
| dobey | yes | 14:44 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, while you upload the image, can you branch the code in a completely diff location and try to run the tests | 14:44 |
| ralsina | it has MPL/GPL/LGPL/MIT/Ms-PL/BSD licenses | 14:44 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, http://ubuntuone.com/7MCq3uU9iVvdygM89LzWYj | 14:45 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, maybe you have a little mess in the xcode files | 14:45 |
| dobey | it is a royal clusterfrack | 14:45 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, ack | 14:45 |
| ralsina | mmcc: there is no alternative to ocmock? | 14:45 |
| ralsina | mmcc: I would rather spend a day looking for one than a week removing it | 14:45 |
| mandel | gatox, funny, because it seems ok, so if you do command+u it should run the tests inside xcode.. | 14:45 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, ^ | 14:45 |
| dobey | i would avoid ocmock unless the license gets fixed | 14:45 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, checking | 14:46 |
| mmcc | ralsina: I'm not aware of anything that nice, but we can keep looking. We could also probably add some patch-style features to something else if we needed to | 14:46 |
| ralsina | mmcc: in parallel, we can ask our lawyer | 14:46 |
| ralsina | mmcc: but I don't expect that to be useful because "use" is so fuzzy here | 14:47 |
| mmcc | ralsina: ok. I get the impression that this guy would be willing to let us use it how we want, I feel like we just talked past each other this first time around | 14:47 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, finally!!!!!!! tests succeeded!!!!! | 14:48 |
| gatox_mac | 47 tests executed | 14:48 |
| gatox_mac | the Xcode files were dirty! | 14:48 |
| mmcc | I'll forward you the email I sent - I should've CCd you first | 14:48 |
| gatox_mac | dirty files | 14:48 |
| dobey | mmcc: what was the conversation? did you ask him to remove the advertising clause and make it plain MIT/X licensed? | 14:48 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, ok, so a clean branch works, right? | 14:49 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, yap! | 14:49 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, cool :) | 14:49 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, so.. if you fix the typos. it's a +1 from me | 14:49 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, ok, on it right now before I forget! | 14:49 |
| mmcc | dobey: check your email | 14:49 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, cool! let me know | 14:49 |
| gatox_mac | mandel, btw… great job!! :D | 14:50 |
| mmcc | dobey, ralsina I didn't ask him to change the license, I asked him for a clarification | 14:50 |
| mandel | alecu, there was an issue with the xcode config files, please when testing add-run-tests do a clean branch and not a pull | 14:50 |
| mandel | gatox_mac, meh, just luck :) | 14:50 |
| gatox | mandel, i mean about the branch :P | 14:50 |
| alecu | mandel, ack | 14:50 |
| mandel | gatox, oh, hehe | 14:51 |
| gatox | mandel, and your objective-c lessons | 14:51 |
| gatox | jejej | 14:51 |
| * mmcc believes XCode developers do not share .xcodeproj files | 14:51 | |
| mmcc | I would bet money that XCode itself is built using makefiles and awk | 14:51 |
| gatox | mmcc, they are really selfish! jeje | 14:52 |
| alecu | mandel, all tests pass that way | 14:52 |
| mandel | mmcc, I'll move to make later, no a priority atm | 14:52 |
| mandel | alecu, superb! | 14:52 |
| mmcc | I suspect they also build all their UI in code, and don't use Interface Builder. Or else only one developer ever touches those things... | 14:52 |
| * dobey "fixes" the pylilnt problem | 14:52 | |
| alecu | mandel, I tried merging with trunk again, and I did not get the segfault either :P | 14:53 |
| mmcc | mandel: no hurry on that :) I like to complain, but it does sort of work... | 14:53 |
| mandel | mmcc, is good to have someone complaining with good reasons | 14:53 |
| mandel | mmcc, I just did not know that schemes are not share by default on xcode, what a stupid feature | 14:54 |
| * dobey really needs to do expenses | 14:54 | |
| mmcc | mandel: I didn't know that either. XCode has changed a lot in the last version or so. | 14:55 |
| dobey | before that deadline passes in a few days | 14:55 |
| gatox | me! | 15:00 |
| gatox | alecu, thisfred briancurtin mmcc ralsina dobey standup? | 15:00 |
| briancurtin | me | 15:00 |
| ralsina | oh right | 15:01 |
| ralsina | me | 15:01 |
| thisfred | me | 15:01 |
| dobey | meh | 15:01 |
| mmcc | me | 15:02 |
| dobey | gatox: don't forget mandel | 15:02 |
| gatox | oh! | 15:02 |
| gatox | mandel, sorry | 15:02 |
| gatox | mandel, alecu ? | 15:03 |
| mandel | me | 15:03 |
| ralsina | alecu is last, go gatox! | 15:03 |
| gatox | DONE: | 15:04 |
| gatox | Review an objective-c branch and fight with some xcode complications when running the tests. Fixed Bug #998079. | 15:04 |
| gatox | TODO: | 15:04 |
| gatox | Bug #1006329 to close my unicode issues. Add my findings about macfsevents in the wiki, go back to fsevents and start looking how to add a wait condition to the watcher when a new folder is added so we don't lose events. 1-1 with ralsina. | 15:04 |
| gatox | BLOCKED: | 15:04 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 998079 in Ubuntu One Client "--publish-file doesn't end correctly for non-ascii paths" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/998079 | 15:04 |
| gatox | No | 15:04 |
| ubot5 | Error: Launchpad bug 1006329 could not be found | 15:04 |
| gatox | briancurtin, go | 15:04 |
| briancurtin | DONE: lazr removal (one more pending) | 15:04 |
| briancurtin | TODO: get testability built and included in the automated builds | 15:04 |
| briancurtin | BLOCKED: nope | 15:04 |
| briancurtin | NEXT: ralsina | 15:04 |
| ralsina | DONE: mgmt call, some 1-1s, reviews, reading about dash development, trying to understand the mac universe and failing at it TODO: understand what I did not, more reviews BLOCKED: no, NEXT, thisfred | 15:04 |
| thisfred | DONE: bug #1004673 TODO: bug #1004673 , estimate the rest of the work for this phase of the u1db client BLOCKED: no NEXT: dobeyh | 15:04 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1004673 in U1DB "Allow code to pass in document factories" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1004673 | 15:04 |
| dobey | λ DONE: set up milestones, fix to tarmac config | 15:04 |
| dobey | λ TODO: expenses, unblock tarmac, triage | 15:04 |
| dobey | λ BLCK: none. | 15:04 |
| dobey | mmc | 15:04 |
| mmcc | DONE: setup-mac.py, objc test frameworks | 15:04 |
| mmcc | TODO: more -^--------^ | 15:04 |
| mmcc | BLCK: NO | 15:04 |
| mmcc | NEXT: mandel | 15:04 |
| dobey | c | 15:04 |
| mmcc | dobey: si | 15:04 |
| mandel | DONE: Worked in adding tests to the FSEvent class (I little stuck there). | 15:04 |
| mandel | TODO: More tests, add domain sockets server tests. | 15:04 |
| mandel | BLOCKED: no | 15:04 |
| mandel | alecu, please | 15:04 |
| alecu | DONE: learned about objective c blocks; reviews; following a SD bug that rye found | 15:04 |
| alecu | TODO: more deep SD debugging | 15:04 |
| alecu | BLOCKED: no | 15:04 |
| thisfred | fg | 15:04 |
| mandel | gatox, fixed (I removed the comment is was idiotic) and pushed | 15:05 |
| gatox | alecu, question: did you fix the other unicode issue i had from the other day? because i don't see it in my queue | 15:05 |
| gatox | mandel, ack! | 15:05 |
| mmcc | ralsina: which parts of the mac universe? | 15:05 |
| ralsina | mmcc: where things go, how things install, basic stuff | 15:06 |
| ralsina | mmcc: I have installed 6 or 7 things and some evenhave real installers after you click the dmg | 15:06 |
| ralsina | mmcc: which I thought was a nono, but then again, they are crap like silverlight and flash | 15:07 |
| mmcc | ralsina: yeah, it's a bit of a mess. there's best practices, then there's other stuff | 15:07 |
| ralsina | mmcc: haha, yeah, like everywhere else :-) | 15:07 |
| mandel | ralsina, anything done by flash is usually wrong in any platform | 15:07 |
| ralsina | OTOH, I am starting to understand xcode somewhat | 15:08 |
| mmcc | ralsina: yep. except the App Store enforces strict UX for installers (ie, no installers, period) | 15:08 |
| ralsina | mmcc: should be a short guideline | 15:08 |
| mmcc | ralsina: what should? | 15:08 |
| ralsina | mmcc: the how to do installers guideline. "STOP" | 15:08 |
| dobey | "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." | 15:09 |
| mmcc | ralsina: heh, yeah. it's about that short. | 15:09 |
| ralsina | anyway, everything is just a bit foreign so I am forcing myself to use it half a day until I understand it somewhat | 15:09 |
| ralsina | and it's being unpleasant, but it's mostly my fault for never using a mac before, I guess | 15:09 |
| mmcc | ralsina: don't blame the user | 15:10 |
| dobey | mmcc: oh, you also e-mailed the wrong guy i guess? | 15:10 |
| mmcc | dobey: huh? | 15:10 |
| ralsina | mmcc: I am not a power user, I am a problem user | 15:10 |
| dobey | mmcc: how is "Erik Eoernenburg" related to "Mulle Kybernetik" ? | 15:11 |
| mmcc | dobey: he's erikdoe on github, it's his project | 15:11 |
| mmcc | his face is the rightmost picture on http://www.mulle-kybernetik.com/en/index.html | 15:12 |
| dobey | yeah i see that now | 15:12 |
| dobey | but what exactly is mulle kybernetik | 15:12 |
| mmcc | dobey: I'm not really sure about that. I think it's sort of a side-project software company that those three guys work on, or at least identify with | 15:15 |
| mandel | dobey, is a cybernetic mule in a funny lang? | 15:15 |
| ralsina | Kybernetyk is cybernetic in german | 15:16 |
| mmcc | they do have an about page... but it's not super enlightening | 15:16 |
| mmcc | http://www.mulle-kybernetik.com/en/about.html | 15:16 |
| ralsina | and mulle is "me" in estonian ;-) | 15:16 |
| dobey | mmcc: i'm not sure it's actually a company. i think it's just a "hey we're some guys that like some things" | 15:16 |
| dobey | mandel: given the logo, i suspect mulle is mole, not mule :P | 15:17 |
| mmcc | dobey: yeah, I guess it's mainly just a website that they all contribute to, only mostly it's 'Nat!', who I can't find a real name for | 15:17 |
| mandel | dobey, do cybernetic moles dream about electric sheep? | 15:18 |
| dobey | i think they dream about electrict dirt | 15:18 |
| dobey | mmcc: basically, that reply is not comforting at all. it basically says "i have no idea what my own license means exactly" | 15:19 |
| dobey | and "oh, also, i am not a lawyer" | 15:19 |
| mmcc | dobey: agreed. I couldn't figure out why he chose that license, if he's not really clear on what it means. I mean, he wrote the code, so ...? | 15:21 |
| dobey | mmcc: and presumably wrote the license | 15:21 |
| dobey | it's not even a good advertising clause | 15:22 |
| mmcc | dobey: exactly, since I've never seen that particular license anywhere else. Maybe one of the other guys wrote the license for M-K, and he just used it? | 15:22 |
| dobey | certainly possible | 15:23 |
| dobey | i could probably get them to change it | 15:23 |
| * mandel imagines dobey chopping off a horse head and sending it via cheap post delivery to germany | 15:24 | |
| dobey | heh | 15:25 |
| dobey | ok everyone | 15:32 |
| dobey | trunk tarmac should be usable again now. | 15:32 |
| mmcc | ralsina dobey: so the 3-clause BSD is also a no-no for us? I'm looking at Kiwi again, which does let you stub parts of existing objects, basically the same as twisted's patch. | 15:38 |
| dobey | mmcc: right, bsd + advertising is not gpl compat either | 15:39 |
| mmcc | urgh. | 15:40 |
| gatox | ralsina, mandel can i have a really small review from you? https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-client/publish-file/+merge/107996 | 15:40 |
| elopio | briancurtin: sorry. testability.dll comes with the qtsdk. I found it at c:/QtSDK/Desktop/Qt/4.8.1/mingw/plugins/testability | 15:42 |
| briancurtin | elopio: cool, I'll see about getting it in | 15:42 |
| elopio | briancurtin: and I didn't install pyqt. | 15:42 |
| ralsina | gatox: sure | 15:42 |
| gatox | thx | 15:43 |
| ralsina | elopio: if the SDK is built using mingw, that's yet another problem | 15:43 |
| ralsina | elopio: because we are using a set of DLLs built using VS and it's not compatible | 15:43 |
| elopio | ralsina: there's an sdk for vs. | 15:43 |
| ralsina | briancurtin: here's some info about Qt plugins and py2exe http://www.py2exe.org/index.cgi/Py2exeAndPyQt | 15:44 |
| ralsina | elopio: ok, we can try to get it from there and just copy it insto the installation folder, really | 15:44 |
| ralsina | elopio: requires no code changes | 15:44 |
| elopio | I can try with it instead. | 15:44 |
| elopio | ralsina: that sounds cool. | 15:44 |
| dobey | yay | 15:46 |
| dobey | briancurtin: ./ubuntu_sso/networkstate/tests/test_linux.py:58:42: E271 multiple spaces after keyword | 15:47 |
| briancurtin | dobey: where is that from? | 15:47 |
| dobey | briancurtin: in your remove-lazr-from-setup branch | 15:47 |
| dobey | briancurtin: could be a new complaint from pep8 on quantal, as it has version 1.1 while precise has 0.6.1 | 15:48 |
| mmcc | well, http://oops.se/objcunit looks promising, but it's 10 years since the last release, and the link is broken. I sent an email... :\ | 15:49 |
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| ralsina | gatox: +1 | 15:53 |
| gatox | ralsina, cool! thanks | 15:53 |
| gatox | mmcc, could you take a look at this: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-client/publish-file/+merge/107996 ? | 15:53 |
| mmcc | gatox: sure | 15:53 |
| gatox | mmcc, thx, it's a really small branch | 15:54 |
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| dobey | ok, need to get lunch. bbiab | 15:58 |
| gatox | alecu, ping | 15:59 |
| gatox | ok..... lunch for me too........ brb | 16:01 |
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| === pedronis_ is now known as pedronis | ||
| alecu | gatox_lunch, pong | 16:04 |
| alecu | ok, I'll get lunch too | 16:04 |
| mandel | and EOD for me, laters! | 16:07 |
| gatox_lunch | alecu, ping..... for when your lunch end :P | 16:45 |
| alecu | gatox_lunch, my lunch got delayed... | 16:46 |
| alecu | gatox_lunch, so, pong | 16:46 |
| === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox | ||
| gatox | alecu, quick question..... do you know if get_abspath in filesystem_manager (u1-client) should handle (returning) only bytes or unicode? | 16:47 |
| alecu | gatox, no, I don't know. | 16:47 |
| gatox | alecu, ok then! :P just wanted to know if it was one of those cases | 16:47 |
| mmcc | gatox, your branch looks fine to me. I had some test failures that seem unrelated - dirty reactors in test_perspective_broker. I think my branches might be out of sync. | 16:48 |
| gatox | mmcc, in windows/linux/mac? | 16:49 |
| mmcc | gatox: linux | 16:49 |
| briancurtin | googling failed me. anyone know of a way to branch just a subdirectory of a repository? i really just want scripts/devsetup out of ubuntuone-windows-installer | 16:49 |
| gatox | mmcc, weird..... maybe you have sometihng out of date | 16:50 |
| briancurtin | oh, hmm, maybe bzr export will do it. checking | 16:50 |
| gatox | mmcc, are you running the tests with: make check? | 16:50 |
| mmcc | gatox: yes | 16:50 |
| gatox | mmcc, and do you have clientdefs.py and logging.conf in the proper places? | 16:51 |
| gatox | maybe u1-dev-tools is out of date | 16:52 |
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| === tetris4_ is now known as tetris4 | ||
| mmcc | gatox: I do have those files, yes. | 16:57 |
| gatox | mmcc, sudo apt-get upgrade?? to update u1-dev-tools maybe? | 16:58 |
| mmcc | gatox: I ran 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sso-client' before running the tests, since my installe version of the sso client didn't have mandel's recent changes (missing get_activation_cmdline) | 17:00 |
| gatox | mmcc, sudo apt-get install upgrade..... will upgrade all the system..... also, this might be failing in your machine because you don't have ubuntuone-dev-tools up to date | 17:01 |
| dobey | hmm | 17:01 |
| mmcc | so I have recent nightlies, and 'apt-get build-dep ubuntuone-client' claims I have no updates to add | 17:01 |
| mmcc | brb | 17:01 |
| dobey | what is failing? | 17:01 |
| gatox | dobey, mmcc is having some dirty reactor failures trying to run the tests from my branch | 17:01 |
| dobey | briancurtin: i don't think you can branch/checkout only a subdir in bzr | 17:01 |
| gatox | i think that he might not have the last version of u1-dev-tools | 17:02 |
| dobey | mmcc: what version of ubuntuone-dev-tools do you have? | 17:02 |
| mmcc | dobey: how do i check? | 17:03 |
| dobey | mmcc: dpkg -l ubuntuone-dev-tools | 17:04 |
| mmcc | 3.1+r71-19~precise1 | 17:04 |
| dobey | you don't have the latest version | 17:05 |
| dobey | build-dep doesn't upgrade already installed packages | 17:05 |
| dobey | does apt-get upgrade not want to upgrade stuff? | 17:05 |
| briancurtin | dobey: yeah what i had to do was branch and then "bzr export dest my/branch/subdir" to get subdir as dest (i wanted C:\u1 to be ubuntuone-windows-installer/scripts/devsetup as the home of my dev folder) | 17:05 |
| mmcc | dobey - it wants to upgrade a lot of stuff :) I will get in the habit of upgrading everything before tests, I guess | 17:06 |
| dobey | :) | 17:06 |
| mmcc | thanks dobey, gatox. re-running tests over lunch, I'll approve that branch when I get back | 17:07 |
| dobey | briancurtin: you can do "bzr export -d lp:project dest subdir" to avoid pulling a local branch first | 17:07 |
| gatox | mmcc, ack | 17:08 |
| * mmcc lunches | 17:09 | |
| ralsina | dobey: any strng feelings about not generating clientdefs.py.in with autotools? | 17:17 |
| ralsina | dobey: alternatively, I can do a script that does the same thing autotools does with it, so we can generate it on windows | 17:18 |
| gatox | fraking unicode bug! | 17:19 |
| dobey | ralsina: i have plans to fix that | 17:24 |
| ralsina | dobey: ok, trust you with it then. | 17:25 |
| gatox | ralsina, oops....... 1-1 | 17:37 |
| ralsina | gatox: vamos | 17:37 |
| dobey | hrmm | 17:46 |
| dobey | i guess we need to copy the relevant pylint bits and such, to the stable/beta PPAs as well | 17:46 |
| briancurtin | quick MP if anyone has a minute, just bumps pep8 version in buildout - https://code.launchpad.net/~brian.curtin/ubuntuone-windows-installer/pep8-version-bump/+merge/108024 | 17:50 |
| rye | mandel: ralsina anybody knows how to build some script to archive the ubuntuone logs on windows? bat/cscript/powershell ? | 17:50 |
| ralsina | rye: if you do it with python we can make it an exe | 17:51 |
| briancurtin | rye: you mean to have a client run it to grab what you need? | 17:52 |
| ralsina | rye: as a plus, python has its own zip implementation, so you don't require crap | 17:52 |
| briancurtin | my last company had a similar script (little C# app) that you just double click and it zips the right directory and drops it on the desktop (easiest way) | 17:54 |
| * dobey wonders what to do about this SRU stuff | 18:05 | |
| gatox | ok..... this is not reproducible | 18:10 |
| rye | briancurtin: that's what I am after too. | 18:15 |
| briancurtin | rye: i can write you up a pretty simple python script that'd do this, but having to ship a zip file of everything py2exe/python needs to run would be a bit heavy. could just write a little C# app for you that'll do it and just distribute the EXE | 18:16 |
| ralsina | dobey: I am worried about it. The requirements are hard to meet without just making stuff up. | 18:16 |
| ralsina | briancurtin: if you do a python script we can ship it with the software | 18:17 |
| ralsina | although of course we can ship exes too | 18:17 |
| rye | briancurtin: yep. I was thinking about employing other python compiled thing to be later included into u1 and which compresses everything in a little tiny exe | 18:17 |
| dobey | ralsina: as it turns out, making shit up is my forte | 18:17 |
| rye | if these exist these days | 18:17 |
| briancurtin | ralsina, rye: true. something like ubuntuone-diagnostic.exe | 18:17 |
| ralsina | dobey: haha | 18:19 |
| * dobey mails the tech board | 18:38 | |
| briancurtin | elopio: how did you get this testability stuff to work in the first place? its not included in the SDK i downloaded, and i cant compile it because the repository is empty...so im not really sure where to go from here | 18:39 |
| briancurtin | i'll be back in a bit. going to spend my lunch time waiting in line to send a package. fun times. | 18:41 |
| gatox | briancurtin, been there | 18:42 |
| elopio | briancurtin: I followed this | 18:46 |
| elopio | http://projects.developer.nokia.com/Testabilitydriver/wiki/WindowsHowToStart | 18:46 |
| elopio | and then found the missing parts here: | 18:47 |
| elopio | http://projects.developer.nokia.com/Testabilitydriver/wiki/WindowsInstallation | 18:47 |
| elopio | it was not funny, btw. | 18:47 |
| * alecu is wasted, and will take the evening off. | 18:54 | |
| dobey | whoot | 18:54 |
| alecu | please send me an sms or a gtalk to reach me. | 18:54 |
| dobey | ralsina: well, just mailed tech board to request micro release exception for u1 :) | 18:56 |
| ralsina | dobey: awesome | 18:59 |
| dobey | i hope my new t-shirt arrives this week | 19:16 |
| * dobey wonders how long it takes for a t-shirt to get here, from Paris | 19:16 | |
| ralsina | 10 days | 19:16 |
| * ralsina is practicing estimates | 19:17 | |
| dobey | heh | 19:17 |
| dobey | postal planning poker | 19:17 |
| gatox | alecu, not now..... but when you have some time, you can take a look at the wiki with the macfsevents section updated with the results i get | 19:18 |
| ralsina | gatox: alecu is out for the day | 19:19 |
| dobey | hrmm, maybe i should make a new ppa | 19:19 |
| gatox | ralsina, yes, i know..... just leaving the log here for him to see it later :P | 19:19 |
| dobey | which has only things which we don't maintain ourselves, but which we need to run tests and such | 19:19 |
| dobey | for the tarmac instances to use | 19:20 |
| gatox | ok..... going back to mac fsevents now! | 19:20 |
| * dobey wonders what all changes are needed exactly, for us to be able to switch to pyflakes for everything | 19:20 | |
| gatox | dobey, one of the problems with pyflakes is that you don't have a way to ignore part of the code as we do with pylint | 19:22 |
| dobey | gatox: i don't think that's a problem really | 19:22 |
| dobey | gatox: at least, it's not a problem in all the places where we currently use pyflakes :) | 19:23 |
| gatox | dobey, no..... but in some situations we need to write (for u1-client) not really pretty code, just to force pyflakes to pass..... don't get me wrong..... i prefer pyflakes.... i forked it and added some functionality to pyflakes and fixed some stuff for personal use.... i should propose that | 19:24 |
| dobey | gatox: there is only one situation where that is the case, and it's because of a bug in pylint which needs to be fixed. the solution for that isn't to add # ignore comments everywhere | 19:25 |
| dobey | also, i think it was said that flake8 has a way to do inline ignores | 19:25 |
| gatox | that would be nice....... i REALLY prefer pyflakes... just wasn't sure about those weird cases | 19:28 |
| dobey | gatox: the only weird case i know aobut is the "try: import foo except ImportError: import bar as foo" case where it complains about overwriting an undefined variable | 19:29 |
| dobey | or undeclared, whatever | 19:29 |
| gatox | dobey, yep..... that and one you import something that you don't use, but in some cases we do that, because we want that inside that namespace | 19:30 |
| gatox | those are the only thing that come to my mind | 19:30 |
| gatox | dobey, but yes..... in favor to change to pyflakes jejeje i wasn't arguing, just saying that there are some things that we have to keep in mind | 19:31 |
| dobey | gatox: that latter case we're probably doing wrong anyway, if pyflakes complains about it. the right solution for that case i think, is to use __all__, which we have generally failed at doing | 19:31 |
| gatox | yap | 19:31 |
| dobey | gatox: yes. i just want an exhaustive list, so we can get them all fixed, and switch | 19:31 |
| dobey | also, pyflakes supports python3 i think. while pylint is insanely complex and tedious | 19:32 |
| gatox | dobey, pyflakes support python3?? i would need to check that.... because i was having some problems between pyflakes and python3 code | 19:33 |
| dobey | i think so, but could be wrong | 19:33 |
| dobey | ah no, i am wrong | 19:34 |
| dobey | but it shouldn't be hard to port it to py3 | 19:35 |
| gatox | dobey, no..... i'm starting to do that btw.... | 19:38 |
| * mmcc was wondering why we weren't using __all__ | 19:38 | |
| gatox | not now..... but it's in my after-work tasks :P | 19:38 |
| dobey | heh | 19:39 |
| mmcc | seriously, is there a tradeoff wrt. using __all__ that I don't know about? I was going to ask back when we were doing that platform refactoring but forgot to | 19:43 |
| dobey | mmcc: well if __all__ breaks imports for things that aren't in __all__, then __all__ makes it hard to import those other things for tests or internal usage, no? :) | 19:44 |
| mmcc | dobey: tests! that makes sense. | 19:46 |
| dobey | or maybe i just don't fully understand how it works | 19:47 |
| ralsina | dobey: tests should not import the things that the module doesn't export, because then you are testing the implementation details | 19:50 |
| ralsina | dobey: but that's mostly a theoretical argument I am not going to argue very hard ;-) | 19:50 |
| ralsina | plus it's trivial to disable __all__ for testing | 19:50 |
| mmcc | hrm, it seems __all__ only affects "from foo import *" ? | 19:51 |
| dobey | yeah, i don't think __all__ works quite right anyway | 19:51 |
| ralsina | mmcc: heh, you are right. So it only matters when you do it wrong. | 19:51 |
| mmcc | and you can manipulate __path__ to point to platform-specific implementations | 19:52 |
| mmcc | that is, in __init__.py, you can manipulate __path__ to point to a platform-specific implementation in a submodule | 19:52 |
| mmcc | this is from an old doc, that the 2.7 docs say is still mostly up to date, but I don't know how py3 changes this, esp. wrt pep 420 (right number? the no-__init__ implicit module thing?) | 19:53 |
| mmcc | http://www.python.org/doc/essays/packages.html | 19:53 |
| dobey | i just can't take pep 420 seriously | 19:55 |
| mmcc | that might be a nice way to get rid of all those "import darwin as source, func1 = source.func1, func2 = source.func2, etc etc" things | 19:55 |
| mmcc | dobey: because they should've reserved the number for an april fools joke pep? | 19:55 |
| dobey | or something | 19:56 |
| dobey | it just has the wrong number to be a serious pep | 19:56 |
| mmcc | not that anything called "pep" sounds that serious to begin with | 19:57 |
| dobey | true | 19:57 |
| dobey | and on that particular example, it doesn't help that i've been rewatching the complete series of Daria | 19:58 |
| dobey | though all this SRU stuff is putting me in the mood to watch Brazil | 20:00 |
| gatox | saying: pep8 in spanish is really funny :P | 20:01 |
| dobey | heh | 20:02 |
| dobey | pep ocho? | 20:02 |
| gatox | yes..... but it's sounds like "precioso" but talking weird | 20:02 |
| gatox | like a baby or sometihng like that | 20:03 |
| dobey | gatox: tomar el churro la boca. | 20:03 |
| gatox | hehehehehehe | 20:04 |
| gatox | ok..... eod for me people!! enjoy and see you tomorrow! | 20:07 |
| mmcc | bye gatox | 20:07 |
| ralsina | bye gatox | 20:07 |
| gatox | bye! | 20:07 |
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| ralsina | EOD for me, will do reviews & stuff at night, so mail me if anyone needs anything | 20:29 |
| ralsina | bye! | 20:29 |
| mmcc | bye ralsina | 20:30 |
| === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away | ||
| dobey | later all | 21:52 |
| mmcc | ok, I'm heading out. feels like I'm getting closer to a working app with py2app now. up next: some issues with not seeing the Qt image plugins at packaging time | 22:44 |
| * mmcc leaves | 22:45 | |
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