| JontheEchidna | it's been a while since I've made a completely new package... revu isn't used anymore | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: lol, I thought the same thing like 3 months ago or so ^^ | 00:17 |
| JontheEchidna | <.< | 00:17 |
| apachelogger | probably because it is somewhat unmaintained | 00:17 |
| apachelogger | I remember well the days when it had sanity checks and what not | 00:17 |
| apachelogger | what a fancy tool it was | 00:18 |
| apachelogger | of course it was compensating for lunchpad's lack of abilities | 00:18 |
| apachelogger | and of course those are not gone | 00:19 |
| apachelogger | so not using revu is a step back IMHO | 00:19 |
| micahg | REVU is usable if it's coordinated, just not for random stuff to be uploaded | 00:20 |
| apachelogger | random stuff? | 00:22 |
| claydoh | http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?59011-Firefox-KDE-support&p=300146&viewfull=1#post300146 | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: oh | 00:31 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: let's play catchup | 00:31 |
| * micahg hopes that PPA has the Firefox branding disabled | 00:32 | |
| micahg | apachelogger: random stuff = dput with a hope of a review | 00:32 |
| claydoh | hehe I did point the person to come here for advice | 00:32 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: catchup with what | 00:33 |
| JontheEchidna | lol: | 00:35 |
| JontheEchidna | [20:33:58] <argonel> even the source is crap: qtextcontrol_p_p.h | 00:35 |
| JontheEchidna | [20:34:28] <Sho_> why? | 00:35 |
| JontheEchidna | [20:34:32] <Sho_> it's a weeping emoticon | 00:35 |
| JontheEchidna | [20:34:34] <Sho_> seems sensible | 00:35 |
| apachelogger | micahg: that is because that stuff is mostly utter crap :P | 00:35 |
| JontheEchidna | /tmp/buildd/libkgapi-0.4.0/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/libkgapi/../../libkgapi/ui/authwidget_p.h:27:20: fatal error: QWebView: No such file or directory | 00:39 |
| JontheEchidna | undeclared dependency on QtWebKit \o/ | 00:39 |
| JontheEchidna | !find QWebView | 00:40 |
| ubottu | File QWebView found in libopenscenegraph-dev, libqtwebkit-dev, openscenegraph-doc | 00:40 |
| apachelogger | yesyesyes | 00:55 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I had that too | 00:55 |
| apachelogger | something is a shit with our findqt4 | 00:55 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/libqzeitgeist/repository/revisions/10fce186a706e8ce124ed42b55f1577084134e59 | 00:55 |
| apachelogger | or maybe that is by design because qtwebkit is not in qt anymore | 00:56 |
| JontheEchidna | makes sense since QtWebkit is shipped | 00:56 |
| apachelogger | I am not sure | 00:56 |
| JontheEchidna | separately from Qt | 00:56 |
| apachelogger | well, but then cmake would have broken compatibility | 00:56 |
| apachelogger | not that it would have been the first time :P | 00:56 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 00:56 |
| * apachelogger is not a fan of implicit linking anyway, so he did not look into it | 00:57 | |
| apachelogger | also findqt4 is always warping my mind | 00:57 |
| * apachelogger finds it bad enough when he has to look into something for phonon | 00:57 | |
| JontheEchidna | anybody up for a little revu? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libkgapi | 01:17 |
| JontheEchidna | python-mlt3, in the same source as libmlt5, but still depends on libmlt4 :s | 01:46 |
| JontheEchidna | (libmlt4 is NBS from older mlt) | 01:46 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, it seems to be nbs too | 01:47 |
| JontheEchidna | nvm | 01:47 |
| JontheEchidna | weird that they'd include the c++ .so number in the python package name | 01:47 |
| Darkwing | Garg, I wish there was a bookmark / password inport from Chromium in Rekonq. | 02:24 |
| JontheEchidna | ^for a momemt there I thought you were addressing shadeslayer ^^ | 02:25 |
| Darkwing | LOL Yeah, I thought about that after I typped it. | 02:27 |
| apachelogger | +1 | 02:49 |
| apachelogger | Darkwing: can't chromium export to html? | 02:50 |
| Darkwing | apachelogger: Not that I can find | 02:51 |
| Darkwing | I was thinking of taking googles "Chrome to Phone" program and see if I can't figure out how to import from a google account. | 02:52 |
| ScottK | FYI, I can remove packages now (Riddell will still be able to as well), so let me know. | 03:17 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: mind taking a look at qt4-x11? | 03:19 |
| JontheEchidna | builds for everything now :) | 03:19 |
| ScottK | I was just looking at it. | 03:21 |
| JontheEchidna | :) | 03:22 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Accepted. | 03:28 |
| JontheEchidna | thx | 03:28 |
| ScottK | No problem. | 03:28 |
| ScottK | Updated kubuntu.org to reflect 4.8.3 in -updates. | 03:45 |
| apachelogger | Darkwing: open bookmark manager | 04:03 |
| apachelogger | in the menu choose organize and export to html | 04:03 |
| apachelogger | kbookmarksmanager should be able to import that | 04:04 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: still up? | 04:06 |
| JontheEchidna | yup | 04:06 |
| JontheEchidna | though I am a bit surprised you are still up :P | 04:06 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: what do you think of removing apturl | 04:06 |
| * apachelogger has exam in 3 hrs ^^ | 04:06 | |
| JontheEchidna | pulling an all-nighter? | 04:07 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: integrating the functionality into muon/qapt-installer | 04:07 |
| apachelogger | yeah, I was planning on revising | 04:07 |
| apachelogger | but my procrastination skills are too good | 04:07 |
| JontheEchidna | ^^ | 04:07 |
| apachelogger | http://letsfollowthewhiterabbit.blogspot.com/2011/12/kubuntu-should-not-use-kde-only.html | 04:08 |
| JontheEchidna | iirc the ubuntu apturl opens up app pages in software-center | 04:08 |
| JontheEchidna | that would be nice to have for the Muon one | 04:09 |
| apachelogger | well, you really just need an url parser | 04:09 |
| JontheEchidna | oh yeah, there's no technical limitations whatsoever | 04:09 |
| apachelogger | all the other craps is outsourced to python-apt in apturl anyway | 04:09 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 04:09 |
| apachelogger | ohhh, and archive activation I think | 04:10 |
| apachelogger | i.e. you can turn on multiverse | 04:10 |
| apachelogger | though I think that is rather pointless nowadays | 04:10 |
| apachelogger | probably could be removed from the spec altogether | 04:10 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah | 04:11 |
| JontheEchidna | anyway, my opinion on that is that it is a good idea | 04:11 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll see what I can do | 04:11 |
| JontheEchidna | but I also kind of committed myself to writing the KDE jockey replacement, so we'll see how that goes >.> | 04:11 |
| apachelogger | suppose I can write you the parser :P | 04:12 |
| JontheEchidna | apturl-kde is already mostly using qapt-batch for the install stuff anyways :P | 04:13 |
| JontheEchidna | if I go to bed now I can get 6.5 hrs sleep,so I think I will | 04:14 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: bonne nuit | 04:17 |
| valorie | packagers, is anyone planning on doing Amarok beta? | 06:31 |
| valorie | 2.6 beta, I should say' | 06:31 |
| apachelogger | oh boy, I should have gone to bed | 08:40 |
| bulldog98 | who ever writes the kubuntu news please remember to name what Jonathan is to thank :) | 08:44 |
| bulldog98 | ScottK: ^ | 08:44 |
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| apachelogger | bulldog98: nus? jon? thank? | 08:50 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: the news we always mention who packaged the stuff, but we have more than one Jonathan and we kind of allways only name persons with their firstname | 08:51 |
| apachelogger | well yes, I do see one Jon being thanked | 08:52 |
| apachelogger | should the other be thanked too? | 08:52 |
| bulldog98 | I don’t remember, but the thing is it’s not visible who is meant with that | 09:09 |
| bulldog98 | was it Riddell, JontheEchidna or me? | 09:10 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: well, however contributed to .3 may feel thanked :P | 09:15 |
| apachelogger | *whoever | 09:15 |
| debfx | agateau: there are some appmenu patches in kdevelop packages. what's their upstreaming status? | 09:28 |
| agateau | debfx: I have no idea :/, need to check | 09:29 |
| agateau | oh, hi apol, maybe you can answer debfx question | 09:30 |
| agateau | apoi: <debfx> agateau: there are some appmenu patches in kdevelop packages. what's their upstreaming status? | 09:30 |
| apol | agateau: can you fill me in? | 09:31 |
| agateau | debfx: do you have an url handy for apol? | 09:32 |
| debfx | apol: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/quantal/kdevelop/quantal/view/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_01_appmenu_fix.diff and https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/quantal/kdevplatform/quantal/view/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_01_appmenu_fix.diff | 09:33 |
| apol | debfx: can we get a proper reviewboard for this? | 09:35 |
| agateau | apoi: I can do this | 09:35 |
| agateau | (post it on rb I mean) | 09:35 |
| apol | agateau: why do we need the switcherAction? | 09:36 |
| agateau | apoi: mmm, that looks weird | 09:37 |
| * apachelogger needs to lay down a bit Oo | 09:38 | |
| apol | agateau: and why does tabBar become a call? O.o | 09:39 |
| apol | it's a weird patch :P | 09:39 |
| agateau | I don't remember writing the patch like this, but it was a long time ago | 09:39 |
| agateau | tabBar became a call because it becomes private in mainwindow_p.h but I don't remember writing this | 09:40 |
| apol | then there are missing things... | 09:41 |
| agateau | apoi: the goal of the patch is to disable the tabs on the right of the menubar, because that does not work with appmenu | 09:42 |
| agateau | I assume the switcherAction is supposed to replace it | 09:42 |
| * agateau looks for the original patch in older sources | 09:43 | |
| apol | agateau: (my nick is APOL not APOI xD) | 09:43 |
| agateau | apoi: oups :) | 09:43 |
| agateau | apol: ah damn! | 09:44 |
| apol | damn? | 09:44 |
| agateau | apol: I messed up again, that's why | 09:46 |
| apol | ok | 09:47 |
| apol | well I think i prefer that to not understanding anything :P | 09:47 |
| agateau | apol: it's starting to make more sense | 09:47 |
| agateau | apol: the patch is actually complete | 09:47 |
| agateau | apol: what happens is the area switcher widget is associated with the switcherAction | 09:48 |
| agateau | apol: see line 22 of the kdevplatform patch | 09:48 |
| agateau | apol: the kdevelop patch just adds this action to the toolbar, effectively moving the area switcher from the menubar row to the toolbar | 09:48 |
| apol | now it's longer O.o | 09:49 |
| agateau | apol: I still don't know why I changed stuff in mainwindow_p.h | 09:49 |
| agateau | apol: what do you mean? | 09:49 |
| agateau | apol: the toolbar is longer? | 09:50 |
| apol | the patch, i reloaded and it appeared completely | 09:50 |
| agateau | oh | 09:51 |
| agateau | must be a conspiration from the qtcreator devs ;) | 09:51 |
| apol | it always is xD | 09:51 |
| apol | agateau: ok, can you put it on rb? like this we can just approve it and get it in | 09:52 |
| agateau | apol: yup, will do | 09:52 |
| debfx | less distro patches, yay :) | 09:57 |
| debfx | now we just need to get rid of the 56 patches we ship in the qt4 package :/ | 09:58 |
| BluesKaj | hey all | 10:27 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 11:01 |
| agateau | apol: hey, I am refreshing the kdevelop patch right now, and I noticed something weird: if I select "Project > Open / Import Project..." I can't select CMakeLists.txt files anymore. Am I missing something? | 11:51 |
| apol | agateau: maybe you don't have the cmake plugin set up? | 12:04 |
| apol | you should be able to (I can) | 12:04 |
| agateau | apol: could be. Is it in a separate repo? | 12:05 |
| apol | agateau: it's in KDevelop | 12:05 |
| agateau | apol: mmm, kbuildsycoca4 for the win! | 12:08 |
| apol | :D | 12:08 |
| agateau | debfx: apol: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105116/ and https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105117/ | 12:46 |
| apol | agateau: what happens if the user changes the native menu bar thing while using kdevelop? | 12:50 |
| agateau | apol: the internet reboots | 12:50 |
| agateau | apol: more seriously, the change is ignored | 12:50 |
| agateau | apol: I don't think there is a way to detect it | 12:51 |
| apol | ok | 12:51 |
| apol | :P | 12:51 |
| apol | agateau: i'm already using this patch in kubuntu, right? | 12:52 |
| agateau | apol: right | 12:52 |
| agateau | apol: or rather the more complex version which changed tabBar to tabBar() | 12:52 |
| apol | agateau: do you have a screenshot of it without the menu? :P | 12:53 |
| agateau | apol: hold on | 12:53 |
| * apol thinks that reviewboards without screenshots are too limited :D | 12:53 | |
| agateau | apol: it's not exactly pretty: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/05/31/plasma-desktopLv2068.png | 12:54 |
| apol | do you use it? | 12:55 |
| agateau | apol: I used to when I was using appmenu, but I don't use appmenu anymore | 12:56 |
| agateau | apol: actually I forgot to undo one of my button changes, so it looks like that: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/05/31/plasma-desktopfA2068.png | 12:57 |
| agateau | apol: Shortening "Build Selection" to "Build" and "Commit Current Project" to "Commit" helps a bit | 12:57 |
| apol | yep | 12:58 |
| apol | well | 12:58 |
| apol | i'll set the ship it | 12:58 |
| agateau | \o/ | 12:58 |
| apol | if you want to shorten those, feel free to open another rb :D | 12:58 |
| agateau | heh | 12:58 |
| apol | wait | 12:59 |
| apol | agateau: why did you add the action from the runcontroller? it should be done fron the UiController | 12:59 |
| apol | :P | 12:59 |
| agateau | damn | 13:00 |
| * agateau looks atUiController | 13:00 | |
| agateau | apol: RunController is where all actions are created, isn't it? | 13:02 |
| apol | agateau: the runcontroller holds teh running code (as in execute or debug your application) | 13:02 |
| apol | just like projectcontroller for project stuff and documentationcontroller for docs | 13:03 |
| agateau | ok | 13:03 |
| apol | agateau: you can see projectcontroller.cpp:480 how it has another setupActions | 13:03 |
| agateau | apol: ok, so I should create a UiController::setupActions() method? | 13:04 |
| apol | agateau: yes | 13:04 |
| agateau | apol: ok, updating the patch | 13:05 |
| apol | thanks aurelien :) | 13:05 |
| agateau | apol: updated | 13:15 |
| apol | agateau: ship it | 13:18 |
| agateau | apol: final word? :) | 13:18 |
| apol | agateau: it's been a pleasure xD | 13:19 |
| agateau | apol: while we are at it, what do you think of that old one? https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/101506/ | 13:22 |
| agateau | adymo said it's useless, but I think it would still make sense | 13:22 |
| apol | hm | 13:23 |
| apol | agateau: it says he fixed it in a different way | 13:24 |
| apol | *it/adymo | 13:24 |
| agateau | apol: as of today, it's not fixed here :/ | 13:24 |
| apol | well, here i don't see the button | 13:25 |
| apol | so it looks fine | 13:25 |
| agateau | mmm | 13:25 |
| agateau | maybe I was not explicit enough | 13:25 |
| agateau | the patch is not about seeing the button frame | 13:25 |
| agateau | it's about having the button frame (visible or not) stuck to the border | 13:25 |
| agateau | so that you can throw your mouse to the screen edge and click the button | 13:26 |
| apol | ahhhh | 13:26 |
| agateau | I used plastique on the screenshot to demonstrate the margin change | 13:26 |
| apol | agateau: does the patch still work? | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: have you tried using the --loginhelper option in kvkbd with KDM? | 13:27 |
| agateau | apol: It applies, I think it should work, it's just a one-liner | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: I tried adding this : kvkbd --loginhelper in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup and it starts for one second | 13:28 |
| shadeslayer | and then vanishes | 13:28 |
| agateau | apol: see, I shouldn't have added a screenshot, then you and adimo would have read the description ;) | 13:28 |
| apol | agateau: at some point dymo said he'd remove the ideal layout | 13:28 |
| apol | agateau: yeah, the first time i saw, i thought it was about the tooltip xD | 13:28 |
| agateau | apol: ideal is the system which creates the buttons around the main window? | 13:29 |
| apol | yes, I think so | 13:29 |
| apol | agateau: let me try the patch | 13:29 |
| jtechidna|work | rbelem: btw, qtmobility is fully merged and merry now :) | 13:33 |
| rbelem | jtechidna|work, thanks :-D | 13:33 |
| rbelem | shadeslayer, hum... i was thinking about using maliit with lightdm | 13:34 |
| rbelem | lightdm-kde | 13:34 |
| jtechidna|work | rbelem: except, it needs a bit of work on the symbols files for the arm archs | 13:34 |
| jtechidna|work | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmobility/1.2.0-3ubuntu2/+build/3537608/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-armel.qtmobility_1.2.0-3ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 13:34 |
| jtechidna|work | GCC 4.7 made it stop exporting some symbols that really didn't belong to qtmobility in the first place | 13:35 |
| jtechidna|work | so the symbol files will need updating by somebody with access to an arm box | 13:35 |
| rbelem | jtechidna|work, i have one | 13:36 |
| rbelem | jtechidna|work, i can do that | 13:36 |
| jtechidna|work | great :) | 13:36 |
| rbelem | :-) | 13:36 |
| rbelem | jtechidna|work, but i dont know how to update the symbols file | 13:37 |
| rbelem | :-) | 13:37 |
| rbelem | jtechidna|work, how do i do that? | 13:38 |
| jtechidna|work | so | 13:38 |
| ScottK | bulldog98: I didn't change that. It was in the original announcement, but I'll fix it. | 13:38 |
| jtechidna|work | the symbols files keep track of what c++ symbols the library ships | 13:38 |
| jtechidna|work | whenever a symbol is removed, it triggers a build failure | 13:38 |
| jtechidna|work | usually this means that a library broke ABI when it shouldn't | 13:39 |
| jtechidna|work | but in this case a symbol has been removed that wasn't part of the library at all, but was showing up because the library was linked to the library that had the symbol | 13:39 |
| jtechidna|work | this is the relevant bit of the build log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1016348/ | 13:39 |
| jtechidna|work | to fix that, you would just remove line 9 entirely | 13:40 |
| jtechidna|work | (but don't add line 10) | 13:40 |
| jtechidna|work | then you'd have to continue the package build to make sure that there aren't any more like that | 13:40 |
| rbelem | nice! :-) | 13:41 |
| rbelem | thanks jtechidna|work | 13:41 |
| jtechidna|work | yw | 13:41 |
| ScottK | agateau: If you're updating kdevelop, we need to merge from Debian too. They just updated all their kdevelop related packages and suggested we update from that. | 13:43 |
| agateau | ScottK: I am upstreaming appmenu patches | 13:46 |
| agateau | rather, I just upstreamed | 13:46 |
| ScottK | agateau: OK. I thought you were updating our packages too. | 13:46 |
| apol | agateau: ship it :D | 14:07 |
| agateau | apol: thanks! | 14:08 |
| agateau | wondering what happens when one closes a discard reviewrequest through the git commit hook | 14:11 |
| apol | agateau: internet will reboot probably, then we won't know if it was appmenu | 14:14 |
| agateau | apol: that's the only possible outcome indeed :) | 14:14 |
| agateau | interestingly, the margin fix does not work for the bottom row :/ | 14:14 |
| apol | s/interestingly/sadly/ | 14:15 |
| kubotu | apol: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" | 14:15 |
| apol | wow man! here in kubuntu you're all over the place :P | 14:16 |
| agateau | apol: you do know kubotu is a bot, right? | 14:23 |
| jtechidna|work | it has many interesting pulgins | 14:24 |
| jtechidna|work | s/pulgins/plugins | 14:24 |
| jtechidna|work | ... | 14:25 |
| * jtechidna|work slaps kubotu | 14:25 | |
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| apol | :P | 14:37 |
| apol | yes i know | 14:37 |
| apol | but still :P | 14:37 |
| vorian | whats up kubuntu peeps! are we changin names still? | 15:55 |
| BluesKaj | vorian, which names ? | 15:57 |
| vorian | i cant recall | 15:57 |
| Ezim | BluesKaj, I think he is meaning after canonical and the fetuare of kubuntu | 15:57 |
| BluesKaj | Ezim, yes , but which names are in the running ? :) | 15:58 |
| Ezim | BluesKaj, no, I know about. :) | 15:59 |
| * Ezim hopes kubuntu goes rolling release and straight debian... dreaming away :) | 15:59 | |
| vorian | it was one Mamarok came up with | 15:59 |
| * vorian leaves | 16:00 | |
| BluesKaj | oh they'll probly come up with some lame name .. | 16:00 |
| maco | when sabdfl was told about the name changing plan he went WHAT | 16:00 |
| BluesKaj | can't be any worse than obscure animals | 16:00 |
| maco | and then asked for an email explaining who was asked at canonical about the trademark stuff, because he was completely unaware that the legal department had said no | 16:01 |
| maco | so it looks like the name is not changing, because sabdfl can override other canonical decisions | 16:01 |
| vorian | canfigures | 16:01 |
| vorian | well id hope so | 16:02 |
| BluesKaj | bbl | 16:03 |
| vorian | i still wonder if all this effort put into a kde based os may not be better served or another distro, since its obvious now we are the blue haired stepchildren | 16:04 |
| vorian | its alway been obvious | 16:05 |
| ScottK2 | vorian: I think it's a fair trade. We've always gotten less Canonical support, but we also have a lot more community control than Ubuntu. | 16:11 |
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| ulysses | jtechidna|work: will be more point release of Muon 1.3.x? | 16:42 |
| jtechidna|work | ulysses: yes | 16:43 |
| jtechidna|work | I'm planning on one this weekend | 16:44 |
| ulysses | I found a typo in the Hungarian translation, now I look for it to fix | 16:45 |
| jtechidna|work | ulysses: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/hu/messages/extragear-sysadmin/ | 16:46 |
| jtechidna|work | wait, that's the unstable translations | 16:47 |
| ulysses | I found it in the stable bracn | 16:47 |
| jtechidna|work | k, cool | 16:47 |
| ulysses | it doesn't exist in trunk, only this: | 16:48 |
| ulysses | #~ msgctxt "Category" | 16:48 |
| ulysses | #~ msgid "File Sharing" | 16:48 |
| ulysses | fix committed into the stable branch | 16:51 |
| jtechidna|work | thanks | 16:52 |
| nixternal | i think you all were sniffing bath salts about 20 hours ago with your fairy tales | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | Pici: ^ Lolwot | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | he shouldn't be here? 0.o | 17:06 |
| Pici | no. | 17:07 |
| Pici | see pm | 17:07 |
| ejat | hi .. is there any amarok 2.6.1 ppa ? | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | ejat: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok < Doesn't look like it | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | ( That page also lists all amarok source packages in PPA's, and all of them look older than 2.5.0 | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | ) | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | ejat: plus, you know, it was released just 2 days ago, and someone will get to it evetually | 17:16 |
| shadeslayer | oh, make that 20 hours ago ( According to email time stamps ) | 17:16 |
| * shadeslayer is wondering why Amarok looks all orange in those screenshots | 17:17 | |
| ejat | shadeslayer: yeah .. im just asking ... wondering if someone already start doing the package in their ppa :) | 17:18 |
| shadeslayer | doubt it :P | 17:18 |
| shadeslayer | kind of understaffed at the moment | 17:18 |
| ejat | ouch ... | 17:18 |
| ejat | maybe can gain/recruit or attract new staff :) | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | Just another week to go for my exams to finish, then I'll have all the time in the world ^_^ | 17:19 |
| ejat | shadeslayer: owh no wonder .. | 17:20 |
| Ezim | shadeslayer, my ended today :)... | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | lucky you | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | I have 2 more to go and I absolutely don't want to study | 17:20 |
| Ezim | shadeslayer, sorry.. not exame... only this semester :P | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | Ezim: Ah, this is my last semester :P | 17:21 |
| Ezim | shadeslayer, good then you can bring goddies to kubuntu... make it rolling release with 12.10 (joking kind of ) | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | I did manage to start Active on my tablet today | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | so not being *completely* worthless | 17:22 |
| Ezim | :) | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | oh god, I love notes.kde.org, that stupid wiki makes me want to cry | 17:22 |
| Ezim | I think kubuntu will be bigger among linux user if they stop be canonical step child... people se kubuntu that way I feel :( | 17:23 |
| shadeslayer | dunno, I never felt that way | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | then again, my opinion is biased | 17:27 |
| Ezim | shadeslayer, thats because we are kde-lovers | 17:27 |
| Ezim | shadeslayer, maybe direct based on debian and going our own way would be good for kubuntu-community | 17:27 |
| Ezim | it would be easier I think to manage the distro | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | nah | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | jtechidna|work: have you played Planet Forge yet? | 17:28 |
| jtechidna|work | nope | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | okay, me neither, looks cool, isn't available for Mac or Linux, so can't play | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | doesn't work under wine as well | 17:30 |
| ulysses | jtechidna|work: the policy file in libqapt needs a change to allow the translation of the actions | 17:52 |
| ulysses | https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/worker/org.kubuntu.qaptworker.policy | 17:53 |
| jtechidna|work | what change is that? | 17:54 |
| ulysses | e.g. <description gettext-domain="qapt">Update software sources</description> | 17:54 |
| ulysses | just like jockey or aptdaemon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1016649/ | 17:55 |
| jtechidna|work | so Messages.sh is already generating proper templates, but I need to mark which template to use in each of the descriptions? | 17:55 |
| ulysses | I don't know if Messages.sh extracts these, there are more step to fix this, even the package must be changed | 17:59 |
| ulysses | see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/913591 | 17:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 913591 in Ubuntu Translations "Gparted needs to use dh_translations" [Medium,Fix released] | 17:59 |
| jtechidna|work | it would be different if the translations were in a .mo file that muon ships for the translations | 18:01 |
| jtechidna|work | iirc gnome ships all their .desktop and similar files in the .desktop files themselves | 18:02 |
| jtechidna|work | so if the messages are actually getting into the .pot's, after the gettext-domain change to the policy file things should be good | 18:03 |
| jtechidna|work | but it looks like it's not doing that yet | 18:03 |
| ulysses | it does not | 18:07 |
| jussi | are council nominations really still open? | 18:13 |
| ulysses | jtechidna|work: if you commit it today or tomorrow, it will appear next day in the .pot, translators do it fast, and scripty merge it back, but it needs at least 3 days | 18:29 |
| ScottK | jussi: Ask apachelogger. | 18:54 |
| apachelogger | nomination period ends saturday next week | 18:54 |
| ScottK | Anyone want to be the Kubuntu dude at the release team meeting tomorrow? | 18:55 |
| ScottK | With jr still missing, I've been doing it and I don't know if I'll be available. | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | also I only see three nominations thus far, that is a bit boring :P | 18:55 |
| * ScottK is all for boring. | 18:55 | |
| jussi | Im still figuring out if I can commit the time. Out of curiousity, how much time do you peoples who are on there estimate it takes at the moment? | 18:56 |
| jtechidna|work | not much at all | 18:57 |
| ScottK | Here's what I told about what we've been up to: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-May/001280.html | 18:57 |
| jussi | jtechidna|work: could you quantify "not much" a little? | 18:58 |
| jtechidna|work | jussi: well, just time to answer a few more infrequent emails, and attending all the normal kubuntu meetings regularly | 18:59 |
| ScottK | !ninjas | 19:00 |
| ubottu | Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel | 19:00 |
| jussi | jtechidna|work: and do you forsee that changing at all in the future, with the current changes in our structure? | 19:00 |
| ScottK | 4.4.80 is back on. | 19:00 |
| ScottK | Need to get to work ... | 19:00 |
| jtechidna|work | jussi: primarily the whole "Canonical not sponsoring Kubuntu developers" has just caused a few more mails to be sent out that a council member would reply to :P | 19:01 |
| jtechidna|work | I think Riddell also drafted up some publications on behalf of the council and passed it around to see if it reflected the council's thoughts on the matter | 19:02 |
| ScottK | I expect it's likely to be somewhat more than in the past, but not radically so. | 19:04 |
| apachelogger | jtechidna|work: the secret is to wait a day or two and then just +1 on somene elses mail :P | 19:26 |
| jtechidna|work | :P | 19:26 |
| * apachelogger is showing off his mighty knowledge | 19:26 | |
| === jalcine is now known as Jacky | ||
| jussi | btw, I think one thing we could work on a bit is kubuntu's dualhead issues - you know, plasma crashing lots when you unplug the project, things not coming back to single head after removing the plug etc | 19:41 |
| ScottK | jussi: It's been a year or two since I've seen that. | 19:44 |
| ScottK | Also --> Upstream. | 19:44 |
| jussi | ScottK: sadly its still happening regularly for me :/ | 19:44 |
| jussi | oh really? not our thing... :/ | 19:45 |
| ScottK | What type of video? | 19:45 |
| jussi | hrm? | 19:45 |
| ScottK | (Intel, nVidia, ATI?) | 19:45 |
| jussi | ahh intel | 19:45 |
| ScottK | The big question is, is it driver bugs or KDE bugs. | 19:46 |
| ScottK | Hmmm. Mine's Intel too. | 19:46 |
| jussi | I have it on 2 machines | 19:46 |
| jussi | One is a mobile 4 series (dell xt2, with capacitive touch, not sure if that affects it) | 19:47 |
| ScottK | afiestas is probably the man for that kind of problem. | 19:47 |
| ScottK | He keeps wanting to improve the multi-head experience anyway. | 19:48 |
| jussi | the other is this HP with 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) | 19:48 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=2&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 2 | Source imported | 19:48 |
| * apachelogger thinks we should have gsoced that | 19:48 | |
| afiestas | jussi: all that should be fixed | 20:21 |
| afiestas | not perfectly and elegantly fixed, but fixed | 20:21 |
| afiestas | you should not lose any window when removing a monitor | 20:21 |
| afiestas | and plasma shouldn't crash, I'm a super heavy user of dualhead, 0 crashes for me | 20:21 |
| jussi | afiestas: Ive had it many times, nex time Ill submit a crash report and ping you | 20:23 |
| afiestas | don't want to sound crash, but you should had to report it first time | 20:24 |
| afiestas | what if now you can't reproduce it anymore? :/ | 20:24 |
| jussi | afiestas: its always been in unfortunate places where I dont have time to get a bug reported - ie. meetings :/ I will go reproduce and report it though | 20:28 |
| afiestas | thanks | 20:28 |
| jussi | afiestas: one of the issues is if there is no crash, the other "screen" still stays "attached" and is the primary screen, so I dont have panels or anything | 20:29 |
| jussi | then when I start system settings and attempt to adjust it back to one, it crashes | 20:30 |
| afiestas | right now removing the wire doesn't mean "unpluggin it" software-wise | 20:31 |
| jussi | oh, well there is one thign we need to fix then. | 20:31 |
| afiestas | I'm working on a new screen management, hope to finish it soonish | 20:58 |
| Ezim | afiestas, for kubuntu? | 21:02 |
| afiestas | Ezim: for KDE, kububntu will use it ofc | 21:02 |
| afiestas | kubuntu is usually early adopter of all my software though :p | 21:02 |
| Ezim | afiestas, any info about it? | 21:03 |
| Darkwing | rbelem: ping | 21:24 |
| Darkwing | afiestas: greetings. | 21:24 |
| afiestas | Darkwing: HEY | 21:25 |
| afiestas | *ĥey | 21:25 |
| afiestas | Ezim: had to restart, di dyou get the url? | 21:25 |
| Darkwing | afiestas: What you working on? | 21:26 |
| Darkwing | no URL. | 21:26 |
| Ezim | no url | 21:26 |
| afiestas | okz | 21:27 |
| afiestas | 1 sec I fetch it agian | 21:27 |
| ScottK | Who's working on 4.4.80? | 21:28 |
| ScottK | Can we get it in by Monday? | 21:28 |
| afiestas | Ezim: Darkwing http://community.kde.org/Solid/Projects/DisplayManagement/Design | 21:29 |
| Ezim | thx | 21:29 |
| Ezim | afiestas, will it work great with opensource nvidia driver also? even if the closed one works good for me. | 21:30 |
| Darkwing | Oh nice. | 21:30 |
| Darkwing | anyone used a working akonadi google resource? | 21:31 |
| yofel | ScottK: doesn't seem to be anybody right now. And I seriously doubt it's done by monday. | 21:31 |
| ScottK | Darkwing: Yes. | 21:31 |
| yofel | I'm back home saturday evening, then I'll do more again | 21:31 |
| ScottK | yofel: Urgh. | 21:31 |
| ScottK | It'd be nice to have it for Alpha 1. | 21:31 |
| Darkwing | ScottK: What all does it sync? | 21:31 |
| ScottK | Darkwing: contacts and calendar. | 21:32 |
| yofel | todo's too, but I haven't tested that much | 21:32 |
| Ezim | afiestas, that looks lot like the current screen manager. am I wrong? | 21:33 |
| afiestas | Ezim: it should since nvidia now does XRandR as well | 21:33 |
| afiestas | it is waaaay different | 21:34 |
| ScottK | Major increase in automagicness. | 21:34 |
| Ezim | afiestas, okey I can not see the difference.. sorry :( | 21:35 |
| afiestas | have you read it? :s | 21:36 |
| Ezim | afiestas, will do it... only looked on the pics first | 21:36 |
| Ezim | afiestas, really interresting reading. thx alot and I hope you will finish it someday. | 21:41 |
| yofel | I've updated the pad with the list of tars that need to be re-uploaded | 21:41 |
| afiestas | Ezim: I hope it too xD | 21:41 |
| yofel | just remove the comment once it's done | 21:41 |
| * yofel will try to do some of that now | 21:41 | |
| Ezim | afiestas, do you work for special-company or is this stuff what you do in your spare time? | 21:43 |
| afiestas | both | 21:45 |
| afiestas | this concrete work I do on my spare time | 21:45 |
| Darkwing | Wow, we are a full version behind owncloud... | 21:57 |
| shadeslayer | Darkwing: fwiw I investigated importing chrome bookmarks into KDE | 22:04 |
| Darkwing | shadeslayer: I figured out the bookmarks. | 22:04 |
| shadeslayer | oh? How? | 22:04 |
| Darkwing | shadeslayer: I was looking for for passwords. | 22:04 |
| Darkwing | In chrome... about:bookmarks export as HTML | 22:05 |
| shadeslayer | Darkwing: how did you import Chrome's bookmarks though? | 22:05 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 22:05 |
| Darkwing | Then in rekonq import firefox bookmarks and pick the HTML file. | 22:05 |
| shadeslayer | righto | 22:05 |
| Ezim | afiestas, thx for the info. for blue system? | 22:05 |
| shadeslayer | Darkwing: I can just implement this in KDE though | 22:06 |
| Darkwing | That would be epic. | 22:06 |
| shadeslayer | Darkwing: like, copy the export to HTML code from google chrome into keditbookmarks and then use the standard HTML importer | 22:06 |
| Darkwing | Actually, if we could figure out how google handles the api for inporting all the info in the first place THAT would be awesome. | 22:06 |
| shadeslayer | Darkwing: google docs | 22:06 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 22:06 |
| Darkwing | Yeah... But, I'm looking at the passwords. | 22:07 |
| shadeslayer | i.e. it simply uses REST calls to Google Drive | 22:07 |
| shadeslayer | ah passwords, no idea | 22:07 |
| Darkwing | all chromium/chrome passwords are synced with google. | 22:07 |
| shadeslayer | Everything is saved in ~/.config/google-chrome/Default/ | 22:07 |
| shadeslayer | there's a sql db in there | 22:07 |
| Darkwing | Yeah, I figured that out. | 22:07 |
| shadeslayer | under Sync Data | 22:07 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 22:07 |
| Darkwing | But, the passwords are hashed and it wouldn't display correctly. | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | Darkwing: the problem will be unencrypting the data | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | right | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | we don't know what kind of encryption google does :) | 22:08 |
| Darkwing | This is why I'm going to do some digging and see if the API that is used in chromium is open or not. | 22:08 |
| Darkwing | with Google, it's a flip of a coin if it's open or not. | 22:09 |
| shadeslayer | should be | 22:09 |
| shadeslayer | chromium has sync as well | 22:09 |
| Darkwing | Right. | 22:09 |
| Darkwing | So, it would just be a matter of finding it. | 22:09 |
| shadeslayer | the code is just horribly bloated :P | 22:10 |
| Darkwing | If we didn't add it as default into rekonq, at least an addon/plugin. | 22:10 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 22:10 |
| shadeslayer | Darkwing: *cough* https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104673/ *cough* | 22:10 |
| Darkwing | That's half. :D | 22:11 |
| shadeslayer | half? | 22:11 |
| shadeslayer | the other half being getting it packaged and released? | 22:11 |
| Darkwing | well, that takes care of bookmarks. | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 22:12 |
| Darkwing | and that is really awesome. But, the passwords is another beast. | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | you want passwords as well | 22:12 |
| Darkwing | I've been using chrome since it was first released. :D | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | Pretty sure that's impossible without knowing the encryption scheme | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | same | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | I think I've been using it since version 5-6 ... don't remember the exact revision | 22:13 |
| Darkwing | I don't want to use it, I would LOVE to use rekonq but, I don't want to have to redo all my passwords. | 22:13 |
| shadeslayer | exact same problem | 22:13 |
| Darkwing | I was a beta tester a few years ago. | 22:13 |
| shadeslayer | -> Canary channel | 22:13 |
| Darkwing | I got the bookmarks in. Having an active sync would be EPIC | 22:13 |
| shadeslayer | Version 20.0.1132.11 dev :P | 22:13 |
| Darkwing | and getting the passwords woudl be wonderful. | 22:13 |
| Darkwing | I just did a fresh install this morning on my laptop. | 22:14 |
| shadeslayer | it would be, but then again, encryption et all | 22:14 |
| shadeslayer | interesting thing here is that my bookmarks are not encrypted | 22:14 |
| shadeslayer | even though I told chrome to encrypt them | 22:14 |
| Darkwing | Yeah... too bad they didn't use MD5 with the google account pass being the key. | 22:14 |
| shadeslayer | ok, I've gtg | 22:15 |
| shadeslayer | cya | 22:15 |
| Darkwing | cya mate. | 22:15 |
| apachelogger | where is Quintasan the ol landlubbber? | 22:17 |
| * Darkwing shakes a fist at google | 22:18 | |
| claydoh | anyone knbow whom to poke about releasing #kubuntuforums so us forum folks can make use of it? It currently redirects to #kubuntu | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | jussi I presume? | 22:24 |
| Darkwing | Yeah, I would poke jussi | 22:35 |
| CIA-122 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 414 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) refresh symbol files and update python3-support-bytecode.patch for new tarball | 22:57 |
| * yofel is off to bed - good night | 22:57 | |
| claydoh | apachelogger: and Darkwing thank you! | 23:20 |
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