[00:14] <marcoceppi> bkerensa: I enable it about once a month
[00:14] <bkerensa> ahh
[00:28] <jono> marcoceppi, all tests pass now :-)
[00:29] <jono> I had a few weird issues but they are fixed now
[00:30] <jono> back later
[07:02] <dholbach> good morning
[07:02] <hobgoblin> good morning
[07:11] <bkerensa> jcastro: this cloud situation with OMG is epic bad =/
[07:11] <dpm> morning all
[07:12] <bkerensa> Site has been down for nearly 12 hours now
[07:12]  * dpm brb's
[07:17] <dholbach> hola dpm
[07:17] <dholbach> hey bkerensa
[07:17] <bkerensa> dholbach: hello sir
[07:17] <dholbach> bkerensa, I'll go and put together a shortened and condensed footer for all ubuntu-dev outreach today
[07:17] <dholbach> and announce the bug fixing initiative
[07:18] <dholbach> probably I'll do another "here's some new folks" blog post soon too
[07:18]  * dholbach has been slacking on the blogging front
[07:20] <bkerensa> dholbach: ok
[07:20] <bkerensa> dholbach: for the time being also OMG seems to be pretty much down =/ (on and off for a day or two now)
[07:20] <dholbach> at some stage we might want to talk about how we reorganise the dev news team
[07:20] <bkerensa> ^ :)
[07:20] <dholbach> highvoltage showed interest at the session at UDS
[07:20] <bkerensa> yeah
[07:20] <dholbach> well then we'll post it the fridge and put it back on OMG once it's back :)
[07:21]  * dholbach crosses fingers for Joey and friends
[08:25] <dholbach> bkerensa, still around?
[08:25] <dholbach> bkerensa, I shared a 'Templates' doc
[08:35] <popey> bkerensa: might wanna credit that pic on G+
[09:11] <benonsoftware> Is there really only 100 days left in the cycle?
[09:15] <dholbach> benonsoftware, according to my unscientific calculation it's 140
[09:15] <dholbach> In [3]: a=datetime.strptime('2012-05-31', '%Y-%m-%d')
[09:15] <dholbach> In [4]: b=datetime.strptime('2012-10-18', '%Y-%m-%d')
[09:15] <dholbach> In [5]: (b-a).days
[09:15] <dholbach> Out[5]: 140
[09:15] <benonsoftware> dholbach: Ooh, status.ubuntu.com said 100
[09:16] <AlanBell> status doesn't work weekends
[09:16] <dholbach> maybe that's "working days"? ie 5 days a week
[09:22] <benonsoftware> Ahh
[09:37] <s-fox> Hello community team
[09:37] <cjohnston> evenin s-fox
[09:37] <s-fox> Hello cjohnston , how are you?
[09:38] <cjohnston> tired today
[09:38] <s-fox> me too
[09:38] <s-fox> :/
[09:38] <cjohnston> debating going to bed for a bit
[09:38] <s-fox> bed +1
[09:39] <czajkowski> cjohnston: need a nap do you :)
[09:40] <cjohnston> yes
[11:24] <dholbach> alright, lunch break - see you later from my old office :)
[11:52] <AlanBell> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html are we going to get a microsoft signed first stage bootloader?
[13:54] <daker> hello
[13:56] <balloons> howdy daker
[14:02] <daker> ツ
[14:39] <jono> balloons, can you hop on a G+ hangout now?
[14:39] <balloons> right-o
[14:40] <jono> balloons, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/cc6a4c008106721a333673b808587a2dc754f647?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[14:52] <jono> thanks balloons
[14:52] <jono> can you ensure you get the hardware list from Leann ASAP
[14:53] <balloons> yes, and I'll find out who the contact is/will be
[14:54] <jono> thanks balloons
[14:54] <jono> you kicked off the Alpha 1 testing yet?
[14:55] <balloons> I'm syncing my iso's and making sure the script from last cycle is still scrapping.. Emails and tweets with info from yesterday coming soon
[14:57] <jono> balloons, cool
[14:57] <jono> 1 week. 100% mandatory tests. balloons.
[14:57] <jono> :-)
[14:57] <jono> dholbach, dpm, mhall119 all set?
[14:57] <dholbach> yep
[14:57] <balloons> looks like 2 results from yesterday.. uphill climb my firned
[14:57] <balloons> :-0
[14:58] <dpm> jono, yep!
[14:58] <mhall119> yup
[15:00] <dpm> jono, would you mind reinviting me? Can't seem to get in
[15:00] <dpm> (pretty please)
[15:01] <jono> dpm, done
[15:01] <dpm> thanks :)
[15:07] <dpm> jono, could you send a new invite?
[15:07] <dpm> g+ hates me today
[15:07] <mhall119> dpm: sent
[15:18] <mhall119> jono: we lost you
[16:15] <dholbach> alright my friends - see you tomorrow :)
[16:17] <dpm> mhall119, jono, check this out: http://ubuntuone.com/4ougP6YlLDv1rnKqw9ZgUh
[16:20] <mhall119> dpm: nice, does it use Webkit or Chrome/Chromium?
[16:20]  * dpm digs into the foo_lib folder...
[16:20] <jcastro> bkerensa: see -ubuntu-devel for HP Cloud stuff
[16:23] <dpm> mhall119, Webkit, I'd say, 'from gi.repository import Webkit'
[16:23] <dpm> lp:~didrocks/+junk/quickly-html-template
[16:37] <jcastro> mhall119: see juju mailing list
[16:37] <jcastro> a guy just posted working on a django charm
[16:38] <jcastro> recommend you link up with him
[16:38] <daker> woow the graphic tablet works out of the box ツ
[16:38] <daker> plug it and it works ツ
[16:40] <jono> dpm, nice!
[16:40] <jono> dpm, does quickly package work?
[16:41] <dpm> now, you just had to pick up the bit that doesn't work did you?
[16:41] <dpm> :-)
[16:41] <dpm> it seems to fail
[16:42] <popey> can anyone see the point at which the UK internet connectivity kinda broke today? ☺  http://ubuntuone.com/3vk92NFYkbTo88Mg2RZwnG
[16:49] <nigelb> popey: heh
[16:50] <nigelb> popey: entire UK?
[16:52] <popey> mostly
[17:01] <nigelb> technoviking: I just saw the new forums theme. It looks great! :)
[17:05] <mhall119> jcastro: I'm not on the list, can you  forward it to me?
[17:07] <jcastro> you've got mail!
[17:07] <nigelb> jcastro: I just imaginged your face instead of clippy telling mhall119 that.
[17:11] <balloons> nice.. I want to see a mashup of that
[17:32] <jono> upvote please! http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/ue5pk/new_humble_indie_bundle_announced_and_available/
[17:39] <jcastro> WHOA
[17:39] <jcastro> finally, a humble bundle
[17:39]  * jcastro is on this like white on rice
[17:41] <balloons> wow.. those are actually nice games
[17:49] <popey> I am super impressed we pulled this off
[17:50] <jcastro> doesn't work for me
[17:50] <jcastro> software sources not found
[17:50] <balloons> oh noes
[17:51] <balloons> are you on precise jcastro ?
[17:51] <jcastro> yep
[17:55] <jcastro> anyone else try it yet?
[17:57] <jcastro> popey: ^^ ?
[17:57] <popey> yes
[17:57] <popey> i have installed one of them
[17:59] <marcoceppi> jcastro: sources were found, but software center keeps crashing
[18:00] <jcastro> I got amnesia to work
[18:00] <jcastro> either that or I inadvertantly bought it again
[18:00] <popey> i suspect launchpad is getting a royal kicking
[18:00] <popey> yeah, the price showing in usc is a shame
[18:00] <jcastro> it's ok
[18:00] <jcastro> it's not a deal breaker, like say .... USC crashing is. :-/
[18:01] <jcastro> jono: do we get the rest of the day off to "support Indie Gaming vendors?" by playing the games?
[18:01] <jcastro> :)
[18:01] <jcastro> The Limbo one is awesome, I have it on my xbox
[18:01] <jono> jcastro, lol
[18:01] <jcastro> it's like a weird dream 2d scroller
[18:02] <jcastro> very dark, totally awesome
[18:07]  * dpm +1's jcastro's suggestion
[18:07]  * balloons 1's dpm's and jcastro's suggestion
[18:07] <mhall119> jono: should we be linking to the individual games pages on FB so they can get to the 5000 "likes" and get their donation from Canonical?
[18:08] <balloons> we should do a livestream of us playing together
[18:08] <jcastro> man
[18:08] <jcastro> look at that counter go up
[18:08] <mhall119> jcastro: which counter?
[18:08]  * jcastro donated more than # to get the average linux up
[18:08] <jcastro> http://www.humblebundle.com/?utm_source=ubuntu
[18:08] <jcastro> from jono's blog
[18:08] <jcastro> there's like a counter
[18:09] <marcoceppi> jcastro: same, worth it too
[18:10] <mhall119> I wish there was more blue on that piechart
[18:10] <jcastro> well, I'm sure with the USC it'll be easier for people
[18:10] <jcastro> I never bought one before for example
[18:11] <jcastro> I do like that the higher linux average shows that we're willing to pay for games though!
[18:11] <snap-l> jcastro: That's been true of all of the humble bundles. Linux users pony up
[18:12] <popey> yeah, every single time this happens
[18:13] <popey> its the thing with averages... a bazillion windows users paying 1 buck outweighs a hundred linux people paying 20
[18:14] <jcastro> well this is what we're fixing, I couldn't really buy it before
[18:14] <jcastro> well, not easily
[18:14] <popey> hah
[18:14] <popey> i have bought every one.. easily
[18:14] <marcoceppi> jcastro: totally, I skipped the last few because it annoys me to download and run it in opt.
[18:14] <jcastro> ^^^^
[18:14] <snap-l> Oh FFS
[18:14] <jcastro> I've mailed the sublime 2 guy like 3 times begging him to put it in the software center
[18:14] <mhall119> some of them had proper .debs
[18:15] <snap-l> I hate /opt as much as the next guy, but seriously?
[18:15] <popey> alan@deep-thought:~$ dpkg -L amnesia  | grep opt | wc -l
[18:15] <popey> 12389
[18:15] <marcoceppi> popey: but I didn't have to do it, USC did :)
[18:15] <snap-l> It's not going way
[18:15] <jcastro> snap-l: it just sucks hunting and pecking for games
[18:15] <snap-l> I just make it a link to /usr/local/opt
[18:15] <jcastro> I don't care where on disk it is
[18:15] <popey> yeah
[18:15] <marcoceppi> didn't have to make a desktop icon, etc
[18:15] <popey> i like that its in USC because now I can install on any machine
[18:15] <marcoceppi> USC made it magic for me
[18:15] <jcastro> ^^^^
[18:15] <popey> for previous releases I download and horde all the installers
[18:15] <jcastro> right
[18:16] <popey> my ubuntu one folder is full of them
[18:16] <snap-l> popey: Same here
[18:16] <snap-l> minus the ubuntu one folder
[18:16] <jcastro> heh
[18:16] <popey> alan@deep-thought:~/Ubuntu One/Games$ du -hs Humble*
[18:16] <popey> 2.1G	Humble1
[18:16]  * snap-l has a bone to pick re U1 music store and banshee, btw
[18:16] <popey> etc
[18:16] <jcastro> and through USC you can just reinstall it on your other machines right?
[18:16] <popey> yes
[18:16] <jcastro> that's jawesome
[18:16] <balloons> ubuntu.com is a rendering fail :-(
[18:17] <popey> sometimes works
[18:17] <popey> content isnt always loading
[18:17] <jono> jcastro, http://omgubuntu.co.uk/
[18:17] <jono> oh dear
[18:17] <jono> still down?
[18:17] <jussi> you know, the unity window manager whatever it is, is annoying sometimes :/ like when I click the rhythm box or spotifiy link thigns in the sound indicator and the damn thing just wiggles...
[18:17] <jono> balloons, they are fixing it
[18:17] <jono> caching issue
[18:19] <mhall119> jono: OMG is posting on http://omgubuntu.wpengine.com/ now
[18:20] <mhall119> jono: what are we doing to get 5000 likes on the app pages?
[18:21] <jono> mhall119, we are doing that next week
[18:21] <mhall119> oh, ok
[18:21] <jono> when the launch buzz has died down
[18:21] <mhall119> it's already mentioned on http://blog.canonical.com/2012/05/31/humble-indie-bundle-5-comes-to-the-ubuntu-software-centre/
[18:21] <jussi> what is this 5000 likes thing?
[18:21] <mhall119> jussi: read the above link
[18:21] <jono> jussi, you will find out next week :-)
[18:22] <jono> mhall119, I know
[18:22] <jono> it is no big deal
[18:22] <jono> if we get some likes then cool
[18:22] <jussi> oh, I just read
[18:22] <jono> but I want to have a big push next week
[18:22] <mhall119> ok
[18:24] <bkerensa> mhall119: yeah that who juju thing has not went so well for OMG =/ love how it was used as a model at UDS yet its had so many problems and hours of downtime :P
[18:24] <bkerensa> whole*
[18:25] <mhall119> bkerensa: the juju thing went fine for OMG
[18:25] <mhall119> it's when they started changing things on the live server, instead of through the juju charm, that they started breaking it
[18:25] <balloons> jcastro, if you need cheering up, my juju demo today went well
[18:26] <balloons> I need to get my charm in the store.. i have to add me as a maintainer first..
[18:26] <mhall119> bkerensa: basically OMG broke when they *stopped* using juju
[18:28] <bkerensa> mhall119: ahh
[18:38] <marcoceppi> mhall119: bkerensa exactly, the current environment isn't using any piece of juju atm
[18:39] <marcoceppi> it's a static setup
[19:01] <mhall119> jcastro: where's the code for that django charm?
[19:01] <AlanBell> applications for the IRCC closing soon http://ubottu.com/ircc/2012/05/17/ubuntu-irc-council-position/
[19:03] <jcastro> mhall119: looks like he didn't push anywhere on lp
[19:07] <mhall119> :(
[19:14] <mhall119> emailed him about it
[19:42] <bobweaver> Hello there I am looking for some knowledge any one around ?
[19:43] <bobweaver> it is about having stores stock Ubuntu
[19:43] <bobweaver> and a new thing that I am doing
[19:45] <mhall119> hi bobweaver
[19:46] <mhall119> bobweaver: there's a lot of logistics involved in that, creating physical packaging and other material, investory, distribution, negotiating shelf space, etc
[19:48] <mhall119> and ultimately, it's very hard to get somebody to drive to a store and spend $50 on something they can download at home for free
[19:55] <snap-l> bobweaver: What are you planning on doing?
[19:56] <bobweaver> well I have 13 stores that I just picked up today that want to stock Ubuntu
[19:56] <bobweaver> 1st time I called in a bit
[19:56] <bobweaver> so I am not really looking for cds
[19:56] <snap-l> bobweaver: What are you looking for?
[19:56] <bobweaver> just the nice piece of paper that they can bring up to the register
[19:57] <snap-l> bobweaver: Which does what? :)
[19:57] <bobweaver> documents for   where to get support via advantage and also community
[19:57] <bobweaver> I have ubuntu advantage taken care of
[19:58] <bobweaver> and I need cardboard cutouts to hold the preinstalled Ubuntu computers
[19:58] <bobweaver> snap-l,  so if customer brings up cardboard slip then they will get Ubuntu installed  instead of some other OS
[19:59] <bobweaver> so I am looking for Docs about Ubuntu Community and where to get support must look real nice
[19:59] <bobweaver> thouse will go by the Computers that are pre-installed
[19:59] <bobweaver> like a "Info section "
[20:00] <bobweaver> but I can not fork out the doe as I am poor and can not afford water
[20:00] <bobweaver> for the stands and what not.
[20:00] <bobweaver> so I am looking for advice
[20:01] <bobweaver> like before I only had 2 stores. But I thought what the heck I will try to call all the local stores
[20:01] <bobweaver> and belive it or not 13 out of the 20 want it and like 7 or so have been thinking about it
[20:02] <snap-l> bobweaver: That's awesome.
[20:02] <snap-l> Hopefully someone in here can give some help
[20:02] <jussi> bobweaver: something like: http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=41 ?
[20:02] <bobweaver> Yup and that is just one city ;)
[20:02] <jono> marcoceppi, jcastro any other folks we can coral into writing Ask Ubuntu accomplishment docs?
[20:02] <bobweaver> looking ^^
[20:03] <jcastro> jono: an RT on g+ would help out
[20:03] <jcastro> but yeah, we need to bang the drum more
[20:03] <bobweaver> I am pushing alot data (Ubuntu tv iso )  so net is slow ..
[20:03] <jcastro> sorry it's been a busy day with the HP Cloud stuff
[20:03] <jono> jcastro, I G+ed it yesterday
[20:03] <jono> jcastro, I will post to reddit too
[20:03] <jono> and blog it
[20:03] <jono> jcastro, np
[20:03] <jcastro> https://plus.google.com/b/107921963368679288414/107921963368679288414/posts
[20:03] <bobweaver> jussi,  yup I give this out with the cds as it is atm http://ubuntustreetteam.tk/UA.pdf
[20:03] <jcastro> Re+ that one pls.
[20:05] <jcastro> jono: have someone else reddit it on your behalf
[20:05] <jcastro> self-promition links on reddit attract a high # of downvotes
[20:06] <jcastro> that's why I abuse bkerensa for this sort of thing
[20:06] <bobweaver> I am more looking for ideas on stands to hold the laptops . Like the ones that I seen from the footage for UDS in China
[20:06] <bobweaver> s|for|from
[20:06] <bobweaver> are they paying for them ?  if so where are they getting them ?
[20:06] <jono> jcastro, weird, I havent seen many downvotes when I have published something on my blog
[20:07] <bkerensa> jcastro: do share link I will upvote it from multiple accts :)
[20:07] <jcastro> jono: you're also famousish, just sayin
[20:07] <jcastro> teflon bacon
[20:07] <bkerensa> jcastro: which link?
[20:09] <bobweaver> I will start this movment my-self if no one wants to help get Ubuntu into stores
[20:09] <popey> bobweaver: i suspect the stores are budgeting some money for them
[20:09] <popey> bobweaver: I am certain we don't make / provide them
[20:10] <bobweaver> good point but what about china
[20:10] <popey> i was talking about china :D
[20:10] <bobweaver> how are they getting there stuff oem ?
[20:10] <popey> i dont know the full details
[20:11] <popey> the stores are owned by the OEMs I believe
[20:11] <bobweaver> cool thanks again popey  I just want to make this work just like everything I am doing
[20:11] <popey> so it stands to reason that the OEM sets aside budget for this stuff
[20:11] <popey> and the more stores they have.. economies of scale.. and consistent look across the stores
[20:11] <bobweaver> i mean for 500 usd that would by everything
[20:11] <popey> (I am still just guessing, but this sounds plausible) :D
[20:12] <bobweaver> for like 20 states
[20:12] <popey> i have no idea how much it costs to kit out a store
[20:12] <technoviking> nigelb: Thanks
[20:12] <popey> the stores in china are quite small
[20:12] <bobweaver> buy *
[20:12] <popey> more like what you might call a boothe here
[20:12] <bobweaver> one store that I talk to gets about 200 too 500 people a day
[20:12] <bobweaver> it is in a mall
[20:12] <bobweaver> the biggest in town
[20:13] <popey> you in .ma ?
[20:13] <bobweaver> what some Ubuntu banners would do at the fromt of there store
[20:13] <popey> sorry, MA, US?
[20:13] <bobweaver> I am in NY
[20:13] <bobweaver> Up state
[20:13] <popey> ah
[20:13] <bobweaver> 6 hrs from the office
[20:13] <bobweaver> in southie
[20:13] <popey> pretty sure doctormo is in MA thereabouts
[20:14] <bobweaver> but there is the dude that is in the white hills that works for canonical that is how I got the advantage stuff
[20:14] <popey> dunno who that is
[20:14] <bobweaver> white hills of new york like yonkers or something like that
[20:14] <bkerensa> a Ubuntu Store in Portland would destroy :)
[20:14] <popey> there's a lot of people over that way
[20:14] <bobweaver> bkerensa,  not hard to set up and I know you got cds
[20:15] <bkerensa> ;p
[20:15] <bkerensa> what makes u think I got CD's
[20:15] <bkerensa> :D
[20:15] <bobweaver> I fight for my cds
[20:15] <popey> hah
[20:15] <bkerensa> bobweaver: I do too
[20:15] <bobweaver> you are lead contact for orgon
[20:15] <bkerensa> I have to do menial tasks for jono for CD's
[20:15] <bkerensa> :D
[20:15] <bobweaver> er spelling
[20:15]  * popey looks at how much it costs for cds
[20:15] <bkerensa> Will work for CD's (Sign)
[20:16] <bobweaver> but I do not need cds
[20:16] <bkerensa> popey: if you get the big bundle you get free shipping
[20:16] <bobweaver> I need documentation and paraphinilia
[20:16] <popey> bkerensa: 200?
[20:16] <bkerensa> popey: Yeah
[20:16] <bobweaver> Just like windows there is no cds most the time
[20:16] <popey> oh, so you do
[20:16] <bobweaver> it is all behind the counter
[20:17] <mhall119> bobweaver: http://spreadubuntu.org/ has a lot of good stuff, but you'll have to get it printed yourself
[20:17] <bkerensa> Apple is buying out a whole mall in Portland
[20:17] <bkerensa> :D
[20:17] <mhall119> iMall?
[20:17] <bkerensa> to increase the size of their apple store which was in the mall
[20:17] <bkerensa> :D
[20:17] <bobweaver> so if there is a "nice" piece of cardboard that one can bring to the counter then there we go
[20:17] <bobweaver> thanks mhall119
[20:18] <bkerensa> I guess since the real estate market is tanked they think its a good opp to buy real estate
[20:18] <bkerensa> We have too many malls here though imho
[20:18] <bobweaver> well I will make mock up and drop here
[20:18] <bkerensa> >.<
[20:18] <popey> i still don't get what this cardboard thing is about ☺
[20:18] <bkerensa> popey: you dont have it in UK?
[20:18] <bobweaver> popey,  say a user comes into a store with bsod
[20:19] <bkerensa> huh
[20:19] <bobweaver> at the store in the sates at least there are two options one buy new windows and get virus wipped
[20:19] <bobweaver> what if they got Ubuntu and not get that installed
[20:19] <bobweaver> windows that is
[20:19] <popey> oh
[20:19] <bobweaver> it would just cost them man hours that is it
[20:20] <popey> you might get offered those options, sure
[20:20] <popey> but no concept of dead wood pulp is involved
[20:20] <czajkowski> does sound a bit odd alright.
[20:20] <pleia2> bobweaver: there is a fair amount of stuff on spreadubuntu.org: http://spreadubuntu.org/en/get-materials/brochure
[20:20] <pleia2> (of course you need to print it yourself)
[20:21] <bobweaver> they would not throw that out but just put back on the self for the next persom
[20:21] <bobweaver> thanks pleia2
[20:21] <pleia2> a lot needs updating, but it gives you a place to start anyway
[20:21] <mhall119> ha, I finally had an answer before pleia2 :)
[20:21] <czajkowski> mhall119: loon ;)
[20:21] <bkerensa> pleia2: yeah people have been asking what happened to Ubuntu Marketing on Forums lately
[20:21]  * mhall119 feels that should be an Accomplishment for jono
[20:22] <popey> "lately" hah!
[20:22]  * bobweaver smiles 
[20:22] <bkerensa> chelsea lately
[20:22] <popey> what happened to ubuntu marketing _ever_ :D
[20:22] <czajkowski> popey: what did it do...
[20:22] <bkerensa> popey: ask Canonical :P
[20:22]  * nothingspecial guffaws
[20:22] <popey> it's all somewhat anarchic
[20:22] <jono> mhall119, speaking of accomplishments ;-)
[20:22] <popey> woah
[20:22] <jono> mhall119, any progress?
[20:22] <popey> nicely done there jono
[20:22] <mhall119> jono: I haven't heard from cprofitt on the LTP ones I wrote
[20:22] <jono> popey, :-)
[20:22] <pleia2> bkerensa: as far as I can tell, spreadubuntu is the only successful ubuntu marketing project, and was only because someone "just did it"
[20:22] <jono> mhall119, can you just write the docs?
[20:22] <popey> +100000000000
[20:23] <pleia2> aside from loco teams, of course, but they're really a class of their own
[20:23] <mhall119> jono: sure
[20:23] <jono> mhall119, thanks, man
[20:23] <mhall119> jono: I have 2 others to write, IIRC
[20:23]  * popey gets back to writing his book
[20:23] <bkerensa> pleia2: its nice... I just wish I was skilled in GIMP/Inkscape enough to update the content ;)
[20:23] <bobweaver> pleia2,  that is what the Ubuntu street team is all about !
[20:23] <bkerensa> I talked to paul sladen about doing some stuff but idk he told me to file a bug and nothing yet ;)
[20:23] <bobweaver> getting Ubuntu to people that never ever heard of it
[20:23] <bkerensa> bobweaver: oh jeez street team
[20:23] <bkerensa> >.<
[20:24] <bkerensa> :d
[20:24] <bobweaver> not to people that have heard of it
[20:24] <pleia2> bobweaver: I hadn't heard of street team, but there there have been tons of teams over the years with the same goals
[20:24] <bobweaver> there is a massive trouble with marketing
[20:24] <czajkowski> bobweaver: I don't think it's necessary trouble
[20:24] <popey> nah
[20:24] <bobweaver> all I see is people bring cds to linux fests
[20:24] <pleia2> admittedly even I've done a lousy job of adding my stuff to spreadubuntu, but I am making an effort now
[20:24] <czajkowski> just people don't always have the time or skill, spredubuntu works
[20:24] <bobweaver> thouse people know about linux
[20:24] <czajkowski> pleia2: you do a great job!
[20:25] <pleia2> czajkowski: it was our discussion at UDS about basic presentations that inspired me to upload my recent ones :)
[20:25] <popey> bobweaver: did you setup http://ubuntustreetteam.tk/ ?
[20:25] <bobweaver> need to put it places where no one has heard about it not conventions that are for Linux
[20:25] <czajkowski> pleia2: see good chin wagging always with you :)
[20:25] <bobweaver> popey,  yup
[20:25] <czajkowski> pleia2: I've dedicated Saturday to do stuff on that in fact
[20:25] <bobweaver> popey,  it has USSO if you like
[20:26] <pleia2> czajkowski: yay!
[20:26] <popey> so it does
[20:26] <czajkowski> pleia2: making use out of 4 day weekend, the rest of the other 3 days are booked but saturday there is an opening :)
[20:26] <pleia2> czajkowski: ah yes :)
[20:27] <bkerensa> bobweaver: LoCo's do this already though it seem replicative of the purpose of LoCo's much like the Manual Team is to the Doc Team
[20:27] <bobweaver> popey,  I have 2 people that are on tour right now but I can olny give tehm 5 cds each
[20:27] <bkerensa> bobweaver: California for instance goes to some sort of Fairs that are unrelated to Linux
[20:27] <bobweaver> that is not true at all ^^
[20:27] <bobweaver> sorry I read wrong
[20:28] <bobweaver> but as a loco member of NY I can not rep that at the orgeon country  fair
[20:28] <bkerensa> Its better to pull resources into existing teams then to branch off into more and more individual groups with new names
[20:28] <czajkowski> bobweaver: we do already have loco.ubuntu.com which show cases locoteams and their work, we have blog posts and picutres going there
[20:28] <bkerensa> bobweaver: why not?
[20:28] <czajkowski> *pictures
[20:28] <bobweaver> that is where I come into play I have connections in that light
[20:28] <bkerensa> bobweaver: Washington LoCo has people come down for stuff all the time in Oregon
[20:28] <pleia2> bobweaver: btw, I am back from my trip now, if you want to talk about a classroom session on wifi that'd be great (particularly if you can do it during User Days, we have a lot of spots to fill: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/precise)
[20:28] <bobweaver> bkerensa,  because it would take away from OR LOCO
[20:29] <popey> sounds like politics
[20:29] <popey> unnecessary politics
[20:29] <bkerensa> bobweaver: we dont see it as taking away... We are all committed in the same goal of promoting and advancing FOSS and Ubuntu :)
[20:29] <czajkowski> popey: +1
[20:29] <popey> we are one big community
[20:29] <bobweaver> BINGO
[20:29] <popey> dont see us as silos
[20:29] <bkerensa> A Circle of Friends
[20:29] <popey> even jono
[20:30]  * jono reads up
[20:30] <not_found> lol
[20:31] <bobweaver> bkerensa,  I hate to say this but I have heard different like I said that is the only reason I start the street team
[20:31] <bobweaver> and there is goals behind that the LOCO can not do
[20:31] <czajkowski> such as?
[20:31] <bobweaver> set up charitys in there name
[20:31] <pleia2> bobweaver: pennsylvania used to collaborate a fair amount with new york (I drove up to Waterloo, NY once to speak at one of their events even)
[20:31] <bkerensa> bobweaver: nobody is trying to discourage your efforts because we can see they have good intentions however reinventing the wheel may not be the best way to go about it
[20:31] <pleia2> so even in your team, collaboration has happened :)
[20:32] <pleia2> and everyone was an honorary california team member during UDS!
[20:32] <mhall119> there are no walls in the Ubuntu  community
[20:32] <bkerensa> bobweaver: we would love for California to come up in fact MarkDude and PhilipBallew might be coming up for OSCON along with people from WA.
[20:32] <jussi> only windows? :P
[20:32] <bobweaver> like for poor schools that have crappy computers
[20:32]  * mhall119 is currently writing the summary for the "attended a loco event for another team" accomplishment
[20:32] <pleia2> bobweaver: in california the loco partners with a non-profit who does that
[20:33] <jussi> ooh, pleia2's baby
[20:33] <pleia2> so partimus.org is the non-profit that handles all that stuff, and those of us from the california loco help them (I'm actually on the board of Partimus ;))
[20:33] <jussi> partimus :D
[20:33] <bobweaver> I have heard that loco can not be 502 (c)
[20:33] <pleia2> jussi: indeed!
[20:33] <bobweaver> 501 *
[20:33] <bkerensa> Why cant LoCo's help schools get computers? Oregon is partnered with FreeGeek and has dialogue with locoal EDU to get computers in along with free clinics
[20:34] <bobweaver> bkerensa,  plz that is not what I am saying at all I love loco and help my loco a bunch and would love to help yours :)
[20:34] <bkerensa> bobweaver: Their are LoCo's in Europes that are full blown corporations :P and in the U.S. you can do pass-through donations through a seed 501(c)3
[20:34] <jono> can anyone help us write Ask Ubuntu docs?
[20:34] <jono> http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/05/31/help-needed-ask-ubuntu-accomplishment-documentation/
[20:34] <czajkowski> many ubuntu ireland loco folks work with camara to get computers into schools using Ubuntu in ireland and in africa
[20:34] <bobweaver> I just hear things and that is all I hear
[20:35] <pleia2> there are plenty of non-profits out there that locos can work with, no need for them to become non-profits themselves (it's expensive and complicated, I'm doing it for partimus)
[20:35] <nothingspecial> I thought bobweaver's question was about documentation for stores?
[20:35]  * pleia2 strongly dislikes tax season now
[20:35] <popey> pleia2: have you ever written up the way that relationship works?
[20:35] <bobweaver> thanks nothingspecial
[20:35] <popey> nothingspecial: it was initially but based on some assumptions we're clearing up
[20:35] <pleia2> popey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Partimus
[20:35] <bobweaver> I am glad to be learning thou
[20:36] <pleia2> it's pretty simple, partimus just emails the mailing list when they need volunteers for stuff
[20:36] <czajkowski> pleia2: it does seem to work well alright
[20:36] <czajkowski> which is great to see
[20:36] <pleia2> yeah, it's great :)
[20:37] <pleia2> partimus does all the business work and establishes relationships, the california loco brings in their ubuntu tech expertise and enthusiastic volunteers
[20:37] <bobweaver> bottom line is this I have 13 store to fill tomorro I call the next city next to me and then the next day ...
[20:37] <bobweaver> setting up meetings with owners
[20:38] <bobweaver> I would like to have more stuff to give to them and that is why I am here
[20:38] <bobweaver> If I have to fork out some money I will I have no troubles with that But I am a poor man
[20:38] <bobweaver> I am not looking for hand outs or things to even get sent to me
[20:39] <nothingspecial> I think you already have the best links bobweaver
[20:39] <bobweaver> rather they just go straight to the stores. On a personal not I hate the monetary system
[20:40] <bobweaver> thanks I will use what I can
[20:40] <bobweaver> but mark my words I am going to do something big here
[20:40] <pleia2> bobweaver: berkeleylug here in california uses vistaprint.com for fliers to be printed up, they often have coupons and deals so you can get stuff pretty cheap
[20:41] <bobweaver> pleia2,  I kno that this could be hard to understand but I am super super poor like I can hardly keep my elc on
[20:41] <pleia2> just a thought in case you end up with someone willing to donate to the cause
[20:41] <bobweaver> but that is a great idea
[20:42] <czajkowski> bobweaver: good luck in your efforts
[20:42] <bobweaver> great point and I love the input !
[20:42] <bobweaver> thanks czajkowski
[20:43] <czajkowski> bobweaver: it's good to bounce ideas off one another in here and learn from peoples past efforts
[20:43] <czajkowski> if we cna help in any way we will
[20:43] <czajkowski> *can
[20:43] <bobweaver> +1 that is why I came right here :)
[20:44] <bobweaver> you already have :)
[20:50] <popey> \o/
[21:06] <bkerensa> uhh these headphones are so nice :D
[21:29] <bobweaver> Once again I would like to thank every one that has gave me ideas and helped me with there wisdom. It is priceless. Thanks. Please take these next words softly plz. There is 100% NO point in having Ubuntu at linux conventions every one knows Ubuntu there and if they don't they will hear about it or see it on computers. So I say Stop all that and do something different. I am not talking to anyone here I am just thinking and off
[21:29] <bobweaver> ering feed back do what you want with it. But I would feel bad if I was not to say anything. Once again thank you so so much for your ideas and inspirations You are all in a class that is wonderful.! Thanks ttyl
[21:31] <bkerensa> hmm
[21:35]  * mhall119 likes conventions
[21:36] <bkerensa> mhall119: indeed... and the notion that Linux related cons only have Linux users are a fallacy :P
[21:36] <mhall119> but then again, the point of Ubuntu being at things like oscon isn't to inform geeks about our existence
[21:36] <bkerensa> nope and I don't think OSCON wants that either
[21:36] <mhall119> facetime still has a lot of value, and talking to someone involved in the community in person will do a lot more to attract more community participating and contribution
[21:36] <bkerensa> they want us to be able to show what new things the community is doing
[21:37] <mhall119> I knew about Ubuntu for a while, but it wasn't until I met some people in the community in person that I became involved in the community
[21:44]  * jussi cries a little... http://www.etuovi.com/kohde/6980414
[21:59] <AlanBell> are you selling that jussi?
[22:00] <jussi> AlanBell: yes, we are. its a sad day
[22:02] <AlanBell> looks like a really nice house
[22:04] <jussi> It is. We love it very much and it pains me immensely to sell it
[22:06] <bkerensa> mhall119: and then you became a rockstar :D
[22:14] <JanC> 159k isn't too expensive, I guess?
[22:16] <jussi> JanC: its pretty normal for that area - its a fair way north...
[22:18] <JanC> hm, yeah, outside the areas where jobs are concentrated probably
[22:18] <jcastro> woo, bundle is past a million!
[22:18] <jussi> JanC: well there are a fair amount of jobs in oulu, but they are startign to dry up, mostly cause nokia management are idiots..
[22:18] <jcastro> any idea what the record is?
[22:19] <jussi> anyway, bed time for me
[22:55] <mhall119> bkerensa: I'm still working on rockstar
[22:55] <mhall119> so far I've only reached disco-star levels
[23:43] <mhall119> jono_: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/ubuntu-community-accomplishments/loco-portal-events-accomplishments/+merge/108259
[23:44] <jono_> thanks, mhall119!