[00:14] bkerensa: I enable it about once a month [00:14] ahh [00:28] marcoceppi, all tests pass now :-) [00:29] I had a few weird issues but they are fixed now [00:30] back later [07:02] good morning [07:02] good morning [07:11] jcastro: this cloud situation with OMG is epic bad =/ [07:11] morning all [07:12] Site has been down for nearly 12 hours now [07:12] * dpm brb's [07:17] hola dpm [07:17] hey bkerensa [07:17] dholbach: hello sir [07:17] bkerensa, I'll go and put together a shortened and condensed footer for all ubuntu-dev outreach today [07:17] and announce the bug fixing initiative [07:18] probably I'll do another "here's some new folks" blog post soon too [07:18] * dholbach has been slacking on the blogging front [07:20] dholbach: ok [07:20] dholbach: for the time being also OMG seems to be pretty much down =/ (on and off for a day or two now) [07:20] at some stage we might want to talk about how we reorganise the dev news team [07:20] ^ :) [07:20] highvoltage showed interest at the session at UDS [07:20] yeah [07:20] well then we'll post it the fridge and put it back on OMG once it's back :) [07:21] * dholbach crosses fingers for Joey and friends [08:25] bkerensa, still around? [08:25] bkerensa, I shared a 'Templates' doc [08:35] bkerensa: might wanna credit that pic on G+ === Gwaihir is now known as Guest56259 [09:11] Is there really only 100 days left in the cycle? [09:15] benonsoftware, according to my unscientific calculation it's 140 [09:15] In [3]: a=datetime.strptime('2012-05-31', '%Y-%m-%d') [09:15] In [4]: b=datetime.strptime('2012-10-18', '%Y-%m-%d') [09:15] In [5]: (b-a).days [09:15] Out[5]: 140 [09:15] dholbach: Ooh, status.ubuntu.com said 100 [09:16] status doesn't work weekends [09:16] maybe that's "working days"? ie 5 days a week [09:22] Ahh [09:37] Hello community team [09:37] evenin s-fox [09:37] Hello cjohnston , how are you? [09:38] tired today [09:38] me too [09:38] :/ [09:38] debating going to bed for a bit [09:38] bed +1 [09:39] cjohnston: need a nap do you :) [09:40] yes [11:24] alright, lunch break - see you later from my old office :) [11:52] http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html are we going to get a microsoft signed first stage bootloader? [13:54] hello [13:56] howdy daker [14:02] ツ [14:39] balloons, can you hop on a G+ hangout now? [14:39] right-o [14:40] balloons, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/cc6a4c008106721a333673b808587a2dc754f647?authuser=0&hl=en-US [14:52] thanks balloons [14:52] can you ensure you get the hardware list from Leann ASAP [14:53] yes, and I'll find out who the contact is/will be [14:54] thanks balloons [14:54] you kicked off the Alpha 1 testing yet? [14:55] I'm syncing my iso's and making sure the script from last cycle is still scrapping.. Emails and tweets with info from yesterday coming soon [14:57] balloons, cool [14:57] 1 week. 100% mandatory tests. balloons. [14:57] :-) [14:57] dholbach, dpm, mhall119 all set? [14:57] yep [14:57] looks like 2 results from yesterday.. uphill climb my firned [14:57] :-0 [14:58] jono, yep! [14:58] yup [15:00] jono, would you mind reinviting me? Can't seem to get in [15:00] (pretty please) [15:01] dpm, done [15:01] thanks :) [15:07] jono, could you send a new invite? [15:07] g+ hates me today [15:07] dpm: sent [15:18] jono: we lost you [16:15] alright my friends - see you tomorrow :) [16:17] mhall119, jono, check this out: http://ubuntuone.com/4ougP6YlLDv1rnKqw9ZgUh [16:20] dpm: nice, does it use Webkit or Chrome/Chromium? [16:20] * dpm digs into the foo_lib folder... [16:20] bkerensa: see -ubuntu-devel for HP Cloud stuff [16:23] mhall119, Webkit, I'd say, 'from gi.repository import Webkit' [16:23] lp:~didrocks/+junk/quickly-html-template [16:37] mhall119: see juju mailing list [16:37] a guy just posted working on a django charm [16:38] recommend you link up with him [16:38] woow the graphic tablet works out of the box ツ [16:38] plug it and it works ツ [16:40] dpm, nice! [16:40] dpm, does quickly package work? [16:41] now, you just had to pick up the bit that doesn't work did you? [16:41] :-) [16:41] it seems to fail [16:42] can anyone see the point at which the UK internet connectivity kinda broke today? ☺ http://ubuntuone.com/3vk92NFYkbTo88Mg2RZwnG [16:49] popey: heh [16:50] popey: entire UK? [16:52] mostly [17:01] technoviking: I just saw the new forums theme. It looks great! :) [17:05] jcastro: I'm not on the list, can you forward it to me? [17:07] you've got mail! [17:07] jcastro: I just imaginged your face instead of clippy telling mhall119 that. [17:11] nice.. I want to see a mashup of that [17:32] upvote please! http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/ue5pk/new_humble_indie_bundle_announced_and_available/ [17:39] WHOA [17:39] finally, a humble bundle [17:39] * jcastro is on this like white on rice [17:41] wow.. those are actually nice games [17:49] I am super impressed we pulled this off [17:50] doesn't work for me [17:50] software sources not found [17:50] oh noes [17:51] are you on precise jcastro ? [17:51] yep [17:55] anyone else try it yet? [17:57] popey: ^^ ? [17:57] yes [17:57] i have installed one of them [17:59] jcastro: sources were found, but software center keeps crashing [18:00] I got amnesia to work [18:00] either that or I inadvertantly bought it again [18:00] i suspect launchpad is getting a royal kicking [18:00] yeah, the price showing in usc is a shame [18:00] it's ok [18:00] it's not a deal breaker, like say .... USC crashing is. :-/ [18:01] jono: do we get the rest of the day off to "support Indie Gaming vendors?" by playing the games? [18:01] :) [18:01] The Limbo one is awesome, I have it on my xbox [18:01] jcastro, lol [18:01] it's like a weird dream 2d scroller [18:02] very dark, totally awesome [18:07] * dpm +1's jcastro's suggestion [18:07] * balloons 1's dpm's and jcastro's suggestion [18:07] jono: should we be linking to the individual games pages on FB so they can get to the 5000 "likes" and get their donation from Canonical? [18:08] we should do a livestream of us playing together [18:08] man [18:08] look at that counter go up [18:08] jcastro: which counter? [18:08] * jcastro donated more than # to get the average linux up [18:08] http://www.humblebundle.com/?utm_source=ubuntu [18:08] from jono's blog [18:08] there's like a counter [18:09] jcastro: same, worth it too [18:10] I wish there was more blue on that piechart [18:10] well, I'm sure with the USC it'll be easier for people [18:10] I never bought one before for example [18:11] I do like that the higher linux average shows that we're willing to pay for games though! [18:11] jcastro: That's been true of all of the humble bundles. Linux users pony up [18:12] yeah, every single time this happens [18:13] its the thing with averages... a bazillion windows users paying 1 buck outweighs a hundred linux people paying 20 [18:14] well this is what we're fixing, I couldn't really buy it before [18:14] well, not easily [18:14] hah [18:14] i have bought every one.. easily [18:14] jcastro: totally, I skipped the last few because it annoys me to download and run it in opt. [18:14] ^^^^ [18:14] Oh FFS [18:14] I've mailed the sublime 2 guy like 3 times begging him to put it in the software center [18:14] some of them had proper .debs [18:15] I hate /opt as much as the next guy, but seriously? [18:15] alan@deep-thought:~$ dpkg -L amnesia | grep opt | wc -l [18:15] 12389 [18:15] popey: but I didn't have to do it, USC did :) [18:15] It's not going way [18:15] snap-l: it just sucks hunting and pecking for games [18:15] I just make it a link to /usr/local/opt [18:15] I don't care where on disk it is [18:15] yeah [18:15] didn't have to make a desktop icon, etc [18:15] i like that its in USC because now I can install on any machine [18:15] USC made it magic for me [18:15] ^^^^ [18:15] for previous releases I download and horde all the installers [18:15] right [18:16] my ubuntu one folder is full of them [18:16] popey: Same here [18:16] minus the ubuntu one folder [18:16] heh [18:16] alan@deep-thought:~/Ubuntu One/Games$ du -hs Humble* [18:16] 2.1G Humble1 [18:16] * snap-l has a bone to pick re U1 music store and banshee, btw [18:16] etc [18:16] and through USC you can just reinstall it on your other machines right? [18:16] yes [18:16] that's jawesome [18:16] ubuntu.com is a rendering fail :-( [18:17] sometimes works [18:17] content isnt always loading [18:17] jcastro, http://omgubuntu.co.uk/ [18:17] oh dear [18:17] still down? [18:17] you know, the unity window manager whatever it is, is annoying sometimes :/ like when I click the rhythm box or spotifiy link thigns in the sound indicator and the damn thing just wiggles... [18:17] balloons, they are fixing it [18:17] caching issue [18:19] jono: OMG is posting on http://omgubuntu.wpengine.com/ now [18:20] jono: what are we doing to get 5000 likes on the app pages? [18:21] mhall119, we are doing that next week [18:21] oh, ok [18:21] when the launch buzz has died down [18:21] it's already mentioned on http://blog.canonical.com/2012/05/31/humble-indie-bundle-5-comes-to-the-ubuntu-software-centre/ [18:21] what is this 5000 likes thing? [18:21] jussi: read the above link [18:21] jussi, you will find out next week :-) [18:22] mhall119, I know [18:22] it is no big deal [18:22] if we get some likes then cool [18:22] oh, I just read [18:22] but I want to have a big push next week [18:22] ok [18:24] mhall119: yeah that who juju thing has not went so well for OMG =/ love how it was used as a model at UDS yet its had so many problems and hours of downtime :P [18:24] whole* [18:25] bkerensa: the juju thing went fine for OMG [18:25] it's when they started changing things on the live server, instead of through the juju charm, that they started breaking it [18:25] jcastro, if you need cheering up, my juju demo today went well [18:26] I need to get my charm in the store.. i have to add me as a maintainer first.. [18:26] bkerensa: basically OMG broke when they *stopped* using juju [18:28] mhall119: ahh [18:38] mhall119: bkerensa exactly, the current environment isn't using any piece of juju atm [18:39] it's a static setup [19:01] jcastro: where's the code for that django charm? [19:01] applications for the IRCC closing soon http://ubottu.com/ircc/2012/05/17/ubuntu-irc-council-position/ [19:03] mhall119: looks like he didn't push anywhere on lp [19:07] :( [19:14] emailed him about it === jalcine is now known as Jacky [19:42] Hello there I am looking for some knowledge any one around ? [19:43] it is about having stores stock Ubuntu [19:43] and a new thing that I am doing [19:45] hi bobweaver [19:46] bobweaver: there's a lot of logistics involved in that, creating physical packaging and other material, investory, distribution, negotiating shelf space, etc [19:48] and ultimately, it's very hard to get somebody to drive to a store and spend $50 on something they can download at home for free [19:55] bobweaver: What are you planning on doing? [19:56] well I have 13 stores that I just picked up today that want to stock Ubuntu [19:56] 1st time I called in a bit [19:56] so I am not really looking for cds [19:56] bobweaver: What are you looking for? [19:56] just the nice piece of paper that they can bring up to the register [19:57] bobweaver: Which does what? :) [19:57] documents for where to get support via advantage and also community [19:57] I have ubuntu advantage taken care of [19:58] and I need cardboard cutouts to hold the preinstalled Ubuntu computers [19:58] snap-l, so if customer brings up cardboard slip then they will get Ubuntu installed instead of some other OS [19:59] so I am looking for Docs about Ubuntu Community and where to get support must look real nice [19:59] thouse will go by the Computers that are pre-installed [19:59] like a "Info section " [20:00] but I can not fork out the doe as I am poor and can not afford water [20:00] for the stands and what not. [20:00] so I am looking for advice [20:01] like before I only had 2 stores. But I thought what the heck I will try to call all the local stores [20:01] and belive it or not 13 out of the 20 want it and like 7 or so have been thinking about it [20:02] bobweaver: That's awesome. [20:02] Hopefully someone in here can give some help [20:02] bobweaver: something like: http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=41 ? [20:02] Yup and that is just one city ;) [20:02] marcoceppi, jcastro any other folks we can coral into writing Ask Ubuntu accomplishment docs? [20:02] looking ^^ [20:03] jono: an RT on g+ would help out [20:03] but yeah, we need to bang the drum more [20:03] I am pushing alot data (Ubuntu tv iso ) so net is slow .. [20:03] sorry it's been a busy day with the HP Cloud stuff [20:03] jcastro, I G+ed it yesterday [20:03] jcastro, I will post to reddit too [20:03] and blog it [20:03] jcastro, np [20:03] https://plus.google.com/b/107921963368679288414/107921963368679288414/posts [20:03] jussi, yup I give this out with the cds as it is atm http://ubuntustreetteam.tk/UA.pdf [20:03] Re+ that one pls. [20:05] jono: have someone else reddit it on your behalf [20:05] self-promition links on reddit attract a high # of downvotes [20:06] that's why I abuse bkerensa for this sort of thing [20:06] I am more looking for ideas on stands to hold the laptops . Like the ones that I seen from the footage for UDS in China [20:06] s|for|from [20:06] are they paying for them ? if so where are they getting them ? [20:06] jcastro, weird, I havent seen many downvotes when I have published something on my blog [20:07] jcastro: do share link I will upvote it from multiple accts :) [20:07] jono: you're also famousish, just sayin [20:07] teflon bacon [20:07] jcastro: which link? [20:09] I will start this movment my-self if no one wants to help get Ubuntu into stores [20:09] bobweaver: i suspect the stores are budgeting some money for them [20:09] bobweaver: I am certain we don't make / provide them [20:10] good point but what about china [20:10] i was talking about china :D [20:10] how are they getting there stuff oem ? [20:10] i dont know the full details [20:11] the stores are owned by the OEMs I believe [20:11] cool thanks again popey I just want to make this work just like everything I am doing [20:11] so it stands to reason that the OEM sets aside budget for this stuff [20:11] and the more stores they have.. economies of scale.. and consistent look across the stores [20:11] i mean for 500 usd that would by everything [20:11] (I am still just guessing, but this sounds plausible) :D [20:12] for like 20 states [20:12] i have no idea how much it costs to kit out a store [20:12] nigelb: Thanks [20:12] the stores in china are quite small [20:12] buy * [20:12] more like what you might call a boothe here [20:12] one store that I talk to gets about 200 too 500 people a day [20:12] it is in a mall [20:12] the biggest in town [20:13] you in .ma ? [20:13] what some Ubuntu banners would do at the fromt of there store [20:13] sorry, MA, US? [20:13] I am in NY [20:13] Up state [20:13] ah [20:13] 6 hrs from the office [20:13] in southie [20:13] pretty sure doctormo is in MA thereabouts [20:14] but there is the dude that is in the white hills that works for canonical that is how I got the advantage stuff [20:14] dunno who that is [20:14] white hills of new york like yonkers or something like that [20:14] a Ubuntu Store in Portland would destroy :) [20:14] there's a lot of people over that way [20:14] bkerensa, not hard to set up and I know you got cds [20:15] ;p [20:15] what makes u think I got CD's [20:15] :D [20:15] I fight for my cds [20:15] hah [20:15] bobweaver: I do too [20:15] you are lead contact for orgon [20:15] I have to do menial tasks for jono for CD's [20:15] :D [20:15] er spelling [20:15] * popey looks at how much it costs for cds [20:15] Will work for CD's (Sign) [20:16] but I do not need cds [20:16] popey: if you get the big bundle you get free shipping [20:16] I need documentation and paraphinilia [20:16] bkerensa: 200? [20:16] popey: Yeah [20:16] Just like windows there is no cds most the time [20:16] oh, so you do [20:16] it is all behind the counter [20:17] bobweaver: http://spreadubuntu.org/ has a lot of good stuff, but you'll have to get it printed yourself [20:17] Apple is buying out a whole mall in Portland [20:17] :D [20:17] iMall? [20:17] to increase the size of their apple store which was in the mall [20:17] :D [20:17] so if there is a "nice" piece of cardboard that one can bring to the counter then there we go [20:17] thanks mhall119 [20:18] I guess since the real estate market is tanked they think its a good opp to buy real estate [20:18] We have too many malls here though imho [20:18] well I will make mock up and drop here [20:18] >.< [20:18] i still don't get what this cardboard thing is about ☺ [20:18] popey: you dont have it in UK? [20:18] popey, say a user comes into a store with bsod [20:19] huh [20:19] at the store in the sates at least there are two options one buy new windows and get virus wipped [20:19] what if they got Ubuntu and not get that installed [20:19] windows that is [20:19] oh [20:19] it would just cost them man hours that is it [20:20] you might get offered those options, sure [20:20] but no concept of dead wood pulp is involved [20:20] does sound a bit odd alright. [20:20] bobweaver: there is a fair amount of stuff on spreadubuntu.org: http://spreadubuntu.org/en/get-materials/brochure [20:20] (of course you need to print it yourself) [20:21] they would not throw that out but just put back on the self for the next persom [20:21] thanks pleia2 [20:21] a lot needs updating, but it gives you a place to start anyway [20:21] ha, I finally had an answer before pleia2 :) [20:21] mhall119: loon ;) [20:21] pleia2: yeah people have been asking what happened to Ubuntu Marketing on Forums lately [20:21] * mhall119 feels that should be an Accomplishment for jono [20:22] "lately" hah! [20:22] * bobweaver smiles [20:22] chelsea lately [20:22] what happened to ubuntu marketing _ever_ :D [20:22] popey: what did it do... [20:22] popey: ask Canonical :P [20:22] * nothingspecial guffaws [20:22] it's all somewhat anarchic [20:22] mhall119, speaking of accomplishments ;-) [20:22] woah [20:22] mhall119, any progress? [20:22] nicely done there jono [20:22] jono: I haven't heard from cprofitt on the LTP ones I wrote [20:22] popey, :-) [20:22] bkerensa: as far as I can tell, spreadubuntu is the only successful ubuntu marketing project, and was only because someone "just did it" [20:22] mhall119, can you just write the docs? [20:22] +100000000000 [20:23] aside from loco teams, of course, but they're really a class of their own [20:23] jono: sure [20:23] mhall119, thanks, man [20:23] jono: I have 2 others to write, IIRC [20:23] * popey gets back to writing his book [20:23] pleia2: its nice... I just wish I was skilled in GIMP/Inkscape enough to update the content ;) [20:23] pleia2, that is what the Ubuntu street team is all about ! [20:23] I talked to paul sladen about doing some stuff but idk he told me to file a bug and nothing yet ;) [20:23] getting Ubuntu to people that never ever heard of it [20:23] bobweaver: oh jeez street team [20:23] >.< [20:24] :d [20:24] not to people that have heard of it [20:24] bobweaver: I hadn't heard of street team, but there there have been tons of teams over the years with the same goals [20:24] there is a massive trouble with marketing [20:24] bobweaver: I don't think it's necessary trouble [20:24] nah [20:24] all I see is people bring cds to linux fests [20:24] admittedly even I've done a lousy job of adding my stuff to spreadubuntu, but I am making an effort now [20:24] just people don't always have the time or skill, spredubuntu works [20:24] thouse people know about linux [20:24] pleia2: you do a great job! [20:25] czajkowski: it was our discussion at UDS about basic presentations that inspired me to upload my recent ones :) [20:25] bobweaver: did you setup http://ubuntustreetteam.tk/ ? [20:25] need to put it places where no one has heard about it not conventions that are for Linux [20:25] pleia2: see good chin wagging always with you :) [20:25] popey, yup [20:25]