| Shinobi | perl module Curses::UI::Grid errors out. Could not load Curses::UI::0 from Curses/UI/0.pm Any ideas? | 02:28 |
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| lool | slangasek: Just saw your ping, I'm in HK for Connect and have a couple of days off after returning; I also miss a testcase for it because I found the bug by reading the code, I didn't really face any symptom; that said, I'll try testing this end of next week by running pieces of the new code manually | 03:12 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 03:35 |
| pitti | bdmurray: ah thanks; NB that you committed this to the quantal branch :) | 03:36 |
| pitti | bdmurray: I'll reject and reupload | 03:36 |
| pitti | bdmurray: ok, reuploaded | 03:38 |
| pitti | cjohnston: hourly updates - niiice! | 03:47 |
| cjohnston | :-) | 03:48 |
| pitti | cjwatson: remove-package> \o/, thanks! | 03:54 |
| cjwatson | very slowly we approach sanity | 03:54 |
| StevenK | Oooh, where's that? | 03:55 |
| cjwatson | lp:ubuntu-archive-tools | 03:55 |
| pitti | StevenK: see the ubuntu-archive@ announcement | 03:56 |
| pitti | cjwatson: wow, I hadn't actually expected you to be awake at this hour.. | 03:56 |
| cjwatson | I woke up at 1:30am and couldn't get back to sleep until I'd dealt with some of the stuff in my head. I'm about to go back to bed | 03:57 |
| cjwatson | StevenK: I have an MP up with the obvious nuke-from-orbit, too :) | 03:58 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: Ah, I was wondering about that. | 03:59 |
| cjwatson | (hardly a rush, but why not) | 03:59 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: Approved. | 04:00 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: One thing to jot down somewhere is you can probably kill SoyuzScript at some point too. | 04:01 |
| pitti | cjwatson: reverted https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/ubuntu-archive-tools/queue-tables/+merge/108073 FYI (see my followup) | 04:55 |
| pitti | just in case you wonder where it was gone | 04:55 |
| toabctl | does anybody have an example how i can get the codename for a specific package with python-apt ? i had a look at http://apt.alioth.debian.org/python-apt-doc/ but found nothing. | 05:07 |
| pitti | toabctl: what is a "code name"? | 05:07 |
| toabctl | pitti, afaik "precise" is a codename. i use reprepro to setup some private repositories and try to get the codename of a package. | 05:10 |
| pitti | oh, the release name | 05:10 |
| pitti | toabctl: there really is no way to tell from a .deb | 05:10 |
| toabctl | pitti, eg here is the codename set: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release | 05:11 |
| pitti | toabctl: right, usually you set up debmirror, reprepro and other mirroring by release, which will use the dists/.../Pacakges.gz indexes | 05:11 |
| toabctl | pitti, imho apt should know the codename. | 05:11 |
| pitti | toabctl: you can, by looking at the .origins property | 05:12 |
| pitti | e. g. | 05:12 |
| pitti | cache['coreutils'].candidate.origins | 05:12 |
| pitti | there can be multiple origins, potentially from multiple releases | 05:12 |
| pitti | but that really sounds backwards | 05:13 |
| toabctl | pitti, i did this but there is no codename | 05:13 |
| pitti | you want to ask your mirroring script "give me all precise packages" | 05:13 |
| pitti | not iterate over all pacakges and pick out the precise one | 05:13 |
| pitti | s | 05:13 |
| pitti | toabctl: sure there is | 05:13 |
| pitti | >>> c['coreutils'].candidate.origins[0] | 05:13 |
| pitti | <Origin component:'main' archive:'quantal' origin:'Ubuntu' label:'Ubuntu' site:'archive.ubuntu.com' isTrusted:True> | 05:13 |
| pitti | >>> c['coreutils'].candidate.origins[0].archive | 05:14 |
| pitti | 'quantal' | 05:14 |
| pitti | but really, this is not what you are looking for for mirroring.. | 05:14 |
| toabctl | pitti, i don't want to mirror. i use this for private stuff | 05:14 |
| pitti | toabctl: ok; so the origins are the place to look for then | 05:15 |
| pitti | either the .candidate or .installed, depending on what you are looking for | 05:15 |
| toabctl | pitti, where is the codename in your example? there's an archive. is that the same? | 05:16 |
| pitti | yes | 05:17 |
| toabctl | hm. that's not set in my repository. maybe there's something wrong with reprepro then. | 05:17 |
| pitti | toabctl: it's taken from the "Suite:" field in e. g. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release | 05:17 |
| pitti | toabctl: you need the Release file, perhaps you don't have this? | 05:17 |
| toabctl | pitti, i have one, but Suite is missing. there is only a "Codename" field. | 05:18 |
| slangasek | lool: ok; I'll ask for the package to be promoted in the meantime because the other bugs are high-impact, so maybe we'll drop the un-verified fix from the SRU | 05:18 |
| pitti | toabctl: just checked the source; it only looks at Suite:, not Codename: | 05:20 |
| toabctl | pitti, where's the upstream source? imho that should be fixed. | 05:21 |
| pitti | Vcs-Bzr: says http://anonscm.debian.org/bzr/apt/python-apt/debian-sid/ | 05:22 |
| toabctl | pitti, i added the Suite-Field to the Release file and i the the archive now. thanks! | 05:25 |
| pitti | works now? yw | 05:25 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:02 |
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| infinity | doko: Stop doing toolchain uploads from conferences. | 07:14 |
| doko | ? | 07:14 |
| infinity | ;) | 07:15 |
| infinity | doko: I was just checking on the buildds after I uploaded eglibc to see that you'd done gcc-4.7 just before that. | 07:15 |
| infinity | If both break the world, can we blame the tropical heat? | 07:16 |
| micahg | infinity: will your eglibc upload fix all the broken armel bits? :) | 07:17 |
| infinity | micahg: Which bits are those? | 07:17 |
| infinity | micahg: It fixed the last broken bit on armel that I know of... If you know of more, speak up. | 07:17 |
| micahg | infinity: I'm not sure if it's stuff still trying to do armv7 stuff or something else (and the porter boxen for armel are currently unhappy, rt open) | 07:19 |
| infinity | micahg: Stuff doing stuff or other stuff isn't all that specific. What issue were you seeing? | 07:19 |
| micahg | {standard input}:135: Error: selected processor does not support ARM mode `smulbb r9,r9,r3' | 07:20 |
| infinity | micahg: libc.so and ld.so on armel were both armv7 by accident (fixed now), but that's perhaps unrelated to your issue. | 07:20 |
| infinity | micahg: What build was that in? | 07:20 |
| micahg | that was firefox, ghc seems to have some similar does not support errors | 07:20 |
| infinity | Oh, right, GHC was pointed out to me earlier. Probably won't be fixed by my upload, no. I'll have to look at it later. | 07:21 |
| infinity | Unsure about firefox too, but when I find some round tuits, I can help investigate. | 07:21 |
| doko | firefox builds should be fixed with the recent upload | 07:21 |
| doko | chrisccoulson, ^^^ | 07:21 |
| micahg | firefox can wait for later, ghc is more important as I'm not sure if we should start the rebuilds until it's built on all archs | 07:21 |
| micahg | doko: chrisccoulson will be relieved to play angry birds again | 07:22 |
| doko | I wouldn't like to play happy birds ... | 07:22 |
| infinity | micahg: I'll be looking at ghc shortly. | 07:22 |
| * infinity runs off now. | 07:22 | |
| micahg | infinity: thanks, we'll rebuild firefox soon enough anyways and see if it cures itself | 07:23 |
| micahg | doko: sorry, I didn't get to chromium yesterday, hope to look at it today, are you blocked on anything? | 07:25 |
| doko | micahg, no | 07:25 |
| cjwatson | StevenK: Yeah, I grep for stuff in it every time I kill something. Killing change-override.py will probably manage to drop a method or two from it. | 08:29 |
| cjwatson | pitti: Ah, hmm, I'll see if I can find a workaround | 08:30 |
| pitti | cjwatson: I already had a workaround for the non-working len() | 08:30 |
| pitti | cjwatson: but it still didn't work, all the queues reported 0, at least back in the days when I tried it | 08:31 |
| pitti | perhaps LP got fixed in the meantime to deal with lucid's lplib | 08:31 |
| pitti | ogra_: hey Oliver | 08:53 |
| pitti | ogra_: FYI, I gave you a WI on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-q-third-party-driver-installation for pvr-omap4, mostly because you know best how to detect whether the driver is necessary, and you can check "modinfo omapdrm_pvr" | 08:54 |
| pitti | ogra_: if that doesn't have any modaliases, we can add a custom detection plugin, like we had in jockey; but if it can be detected with modaliases, that'd be a lot more flexible | 08:55 |
| pitti | ogra_: of course I can help you wit this, but I'll need the initial investigation | 08:57 |
| skunk | I want to start developing for ubuntu.. can someone walk me through it?? | 09:09 |
| skunk | is anyone even here?? | 09:10 |
| elky | skunk, sure. Most of them are probably asleep, at work, or doing other daily routine things. People tend to read scrollback though. | 09:11 |
| elky | skunk, I can't walk you through it, but perhaps pointing you to the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment link in the topic would be a good starting point? | 09:14 |
| dholbach | http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ probably too :) | 09:17 |
| skunk | kk one more question | 09:18 |
| skunk | I have a java background.. should just touch up on it before learning Vala and C? i mean.. I do have to relearn how all these algorithms works eh?? | 09:19 |
| dholbach | that entirely depends on what you want to do - there's java work to be done in Ubuntu as well :) | 09:20 |
| skunk | I want to be working with pixel perfect scrolling.. and improving that | 09:21 |
| skunk | as well as work to better develop multitouch | 09:21 |
| skunk | especially with synaptics touchpads | 09:21 |
| ogra_ | pitti, i plan to do some work on the panda anyway today, will get you the bits, np | 09:25 |
| pitti | ogra_: danke | 09:25 |
| skunk | what can i do if i have a synaptics touchpad, but ubuntu doesn't recognize it as one | 09:29 |
| cjwatson | pitti: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/ubuntu-archive-tools/trunk/revision/464 - you may vomit now | 09:42 |
| cjwatson | (note you still can't actually index the members of getPackageUploads() without authenticating) | 09:42 |
| pitti | haha | 09:42 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ah, that was it then -- this should work with login_anonymously(), and queue access doesn't work with that | 09:43 |
| cjwatson | No, that's incidental | 09:43 |
| pitti | cjwatson: thanks for fixing | 09:43 |
| cjwatson | This code doesn't attempt to index the members, just to get the length - I'm just noting that indexing the members still won't work | 09:43 |
| cjwatson | The wadllib monkey-patch is what fixes getting the length | 09:44 |
| cjwatson | Though that said one of my near-term work items involves creating a bot account on lillypilly, so all this can be authenticated; the LP team isn't actually desperately keen on anonymous access for various reasons, mostly monitoring/load-related | 09:45 |
| pitti | cjwatson: right, but my previous attempt on a workaround used len(list(getPackageUploads()), which requires accessing the members | 09:45 |
| cjwatson | Right | 09:45 |
| pitti | so that failed | 09:45 |
| cjwatson | This one's tested | 09:45 |
| pitti | screenscraping-b-gone | 09:45 |
| cjwatson | And deployed now | 09:45 |
| cjwatson | Maybe I should do that bot account now actually, after the next cup of coffee; we need that to move copy-report off cocoplum, and other suchlike things | 09:46 |
| cjwatson | I did check with the LP team about it; it's a bit alarming 'cos it's a privileged account, but it's essentially no worse than the alarming privilege of cocoplum | 09:47 |
| cjwatson | and at least oauth tokens are revocable | 09:47 |
| pitti | the old levels (such as "readonly") are gone now, right? (too bad, it was handy for things like that) | 09:47 |
| pitti | or do you want to automatically copy anyway? | 09:48 |
| cjwatson | copy-report doesn't want readonly | 09:48 |
| cjwatson | I want to preserve the automatic copy, it at least used to save Canonical roughly my salary per year in bandwidth :-P | 09:48 |
| pitti | *nod* | 09:48 |
| pitti | cjwatson: I still wonder whether it wouldn't be easier to just integrate this into whatever release script the security team uses (i. e. also copy to -updates, instead of mass-copying from cron) | 09:49 |
| micahg | pitti: you would need to give the security team access to -updates then ;) | 09:50 |
| cjwatson | We need the bot account for other reasons anyway | 09:50 |
| pitti | micahg: don't you? | 09:50 |
| micahg | nope, just -security AIUI | 09:50 |
| pitti | micahg: I wasn't aware that you need special upload privileges for -updates | 09:50 |
| cjwatson | The privilege around -security is specially hardcoded in LP | 09:50 |
| pitti | ah | 09:51 |
| cjwatson | Other reasons> for example it would allow auto-syncs to be actually automated | 09:51 |
| cjwatson | Rather than cron.cjwatson | 09:51 |
| xnox | Can I rely on update-manager / do-release-upgrade to remove `oldlibs`, i.e. dummy transitional packages? Or shall I write a hook for update-manager because I am reverting the transitional package rename which was done in Lucid. | 10:46 |
| skunk | cjwatson, are you still here?\ | 10:51 |
| skunk | well, cjwatson. I don't know if you're gonna see this message. But out of the six years i've used ubuntu the work you've done with the installer is incridble | 10:54 |
| cjwatson | skunk: thanks, and you're welcome | 10:54 |
| seb128 | xnox, check with mvo but I don't think it does magically clean old stuff | 10:55 |
| skunk | 15 minute install, then im surfing the web, writing documents.. this kinda sound like Mac territory | 10:55 |
| skunk | cjwatson, who do I contact for uTouch issues?? | 10:56 |
| cjwatson | skunk: I'd start with cnd | 10:56 |
| xnox | seb128: i distincly remember the 'Remove old unneeded packages: Y/n' question from do-release-upgrade, But I usually dist-upgrade to +1 release, and end up not using the upgrade-manager. | 10:56 |
| cjwatson | (though it's not a field I know much about) | 10:56 |
| seb128 | xnox, right, I just don't know if that list is computed in a smart way or if you need to teach update-manager about it | 10:57 |
| xnox | mvo: ^^^ can you check my message at :46 above. | 10:57 |
| skunk | cjwatson: honestly I want my synaptics touchpad to work like one.. instead of a standard touchpad | 10:57 |
| xnox | seb128: ok. I will test the upgrade in chroot =) | 10:57 |
| mvo | xnox: its not looking at transitional packages specifically, it does look at unused dependencies though, that might (or might not) help you | 11:04 |
| ev | pitti: am I reading this correctly that we do not have the ability to retrace VmCore files yet? | 11:06 |
| ev | in apport-retrace, that is | 11:06 |
| mvo | xnox: it could do heurisitc like looking at "transitional" or "dummy"in the description summary, but that is not deal, ideally there would be something formal identifying the transitional pkg | 11:07 |
| xnox | mvo: 'Section: oldlibs' is standard way to identify transitional packages, unless i am wrong. let me check the policy. | 11:08 |
| xnox | mvo: and they should be cruft to be removed. | 11:08 |
| cjwatson | Yeah, though we could do better about actually moving transitional packages there in Ubuntu in practice. But that's eminently fixable. | 11:08 |
| xnox | hmm policy says 'kept for legacy' | 11:09 |
| xnox | and some are not actually transitional nor dummy | 11:09 |
| mvo | xnox: right, iirc oldlibs was overloaded with multiple meanings | 11:09 |
| xnox | yeap | 11:10 |
| xnox | looks like so | 11:10 |
| mvo | I whish there was "section: transitional" or something similar or a debtag | 11:10 |
| xnox | I will do a test and hopefully I will be ok with depends/replaces/conflicts etc. | 11:10 |
| mvo | thanks | 11:10 |
| ev | pitti, apw: also, we don't seem to have a close to unique identifier for KernelOops failures. Any objection to parsing the call trace out of OopsText (https://launchpadlibrarian.net/79771442/OopsText.txt) and generating a signature in the same manner as crash_signature (so concatenate the first few)? | 11:13 |
| * ev lunches | 11:13 | |
| * xnox read * ev launches | 11:14 | |
| ogra_ | but where to ? | 11:15 |
| * xnox To the cloud! And beyond! | 11:15 | |
| ogra_ | :) | 11:15 |
| ogra_ | charming :) | 11:15 |
| * xnox loves ToyStory | 11:15 | |
| apw | ev, that doesn't sound like a bad plan, though in theory ignore the ? entries in the list ... also include the type of OOPS, the top line hints at th type, and the IP: as part of it | 11:16 |
| ogra_ | isnt that a requirement to become a DD ? : | 11:16 |
| Daviey | xnox: launching stuff at poor infinity.. that is just mean. | 11:16 |
| apw | Daviey, worse leaving him behind ... "and beyond" | 11:16 |
| ogra_ | nah, that just means infinity+1 :) | 11:17 |
| xnox | Daviey: I was certian that infinity is deployed with juju these days | 11:17 |
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| doko | chrisccoulson, bug #1003733 is fixed, you can't verify when building with 4.6 :-/ | 11:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1003733 in gcc-4.7 (Ubuntu Quantal) "Angry birds does not work (test failures in js/src/jit-test/tests/jaeger/testSetTypedFloatArray.js with gcc4.7)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1003733 | 11:56 |
| xnox | oh my angry birds =) | 11:58 |
| xnox | that must be critical priority =) | 11:58 |
| pitti | ev: that's right | 12:06 |
| pitti | ev: sure, if the succession of addresses in OopsText is reasonably reliable | 12:07 |
| astraljava | xnox: Our offices are within 300 feet to their HQ, should I pay them a visit? :D | 12:22 |
| ogra_ | how would you pay this ... in icecream ? | 12:23 |
| astraljava | I dunno, but I could sell them an ERP at the same time. :D | 12:24 |
| xnox | astraljava: yes, plese. show up and say that `doko is not happy and wants an angry bird stuffed animal shipped to germany` | 12:24 |
| ev | xnox: lol | 12:24 |
| astraljava | xnox: some of their employees walk around in pig caps, would that do? | 12:24 |
| ev | pitti: awesome | 12:25 |
| ev | apw: cheers for that - once I have an algorithm I'll run it by you | 12:26 |
| xnox | astraljava: yeap, don't forget another one to be shipped for me to uk offices =) | 12:26 |
| astraljava | :) | 12:28 |
| apw | ev, excellent thanks | 12:33 |
| doko | micahg, ping | 12:34 |
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| chrisccoulson | doko, the new gcc appears to fix the issues btw (just did a test build here) | 12:46 |
| doko | \o/ | 12:47 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks! :) | 12:48 |
| jamespage | doko, any chance you could take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmlgraphics-commons/+bug/888129/+attachment/3169273/+files/fix_icc_handling.debdiff before I upload? | 13:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 888129 in openjdk-7 (Ubuntu Quantal) "xmlgraphics-commons version 1.4.dfsg-3ubuntu1 failed to build with openjdk-7" [Undecided,In progress] | 13:12 |
| doko | jamespage, looks fine. sorry for the delay | 13:14 |
| jamespage | doko, ack - thanks | 13:15 |
| mpt | mterry, I have no strong opinion either way. But if the badge is kept, maybe it should count the top-level groups of updates, not the individual packages. | 13:20 |
| mterry | mpt, hmm, k | 13:20 |
| mpt | mterry, but on the other hand, that seems a bit weird | 13:21 |
| mterry | mvo, let me ask you the other question from last night in this quieter channel | 13:38 |
| mterry | mvo, so update-manager --no-update. What is it supposed to do? I see the code it affects, but still not sure what exactly it means | 13:39 |
| mvo | mterry: my memory is not the best, but I think this got added for automatic testing via mago | 13:44 |
| mvo | mterry: I think its ok to kill it off | 13:45 |
| mterry | mvo, I want to recycle it. The new spec requires doing an apt-get update when a user opens update-manager, but we need a way to turn that off, for testing and for when we pop up automatic updates. --no-update seemed logical | 13:46 |
| mvo | mterry: yeah, that sounds reasonable | 13:48 |
| mterry | mvo, also, what's the story with the DBus API that update-manager exposes? Who consumes that? | 13:48 |
| mvo | mterry: update-manager itself to implement a poor mans singleton window | 13:50 |
| mvo | mterry: see setupDbus() but meh, its pretty rusty, need proper dbus names for example | 13:51 |
| mterry | mvo, OK, so it uses whether the name is claimed or not, much like modern GtkApplication. But does anyone consume the actual calls like "update()" or "upgrade()" that you know of? | 13:52 |
| mvo | mterry: those were added for mago as well | 13:53 |
| mterry | mvo, ah OK | 13:53 |
| mterry | mvo, (in the branch where I'm doing the update-on-start, I'm removing the ability to initiate updates elsewhere in the UI and was wondering about the dbus method to do so. Sounds like I should drop it too) | 13:54 |
| mvo | brendand: hi, iirc you added the update dbus stuff, is that actually being used these days in the test environment? | 13:54 |
| brendand | mvo - i'd have to check | 13:55 |
| brendand | mvo - i do know we have an apt-get-update test in our SRU suitew | 13:55 |
| brendand | mvo - whether it actually uses that functionality i can't recall | 13:56 |
| brendand | mvo, probably not | 13:56 |
| mterry | mvo, brendand: well regardless, if the purpose of the tests is to mimic the UI, if the UI is dropping the ability to kick of an update willy-nilly, the dbus API should to I suppose | 13:56 |
| brendand | mvo - what's the ui doing? | 13:57 |
| mterry | brendand, how do you mean that? The UI is moving to a "do an apt-get update on startup" and dropping the buttons to initiate one manually | 13:57 |
| brendand | mterry, oh right, i see | 13:58 |
| brendand | mvo, mterry - so i can say that *i* won't complain if it's removed. i can't promise no-one else will. i seem to recall that stuff was put in at the request of the QA team as well | 13:59 |
| stgraber | NCommander: 12.04.1 meeting in #ubuntu-meeting | 14:03 |
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| * ogra_ sighs about linux-base | 15:06 | |
| ogra_ | that postinst is a pain | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, FYI support for the arm server arches is in flash-kernel now, the only thing i'm struggling with is linux-base atm which needs to be MIRed (its postinst tries to rewrite all config files that could use UUIDs though, and there is no debconf option to switch that off) | 15:11 |
| slangasek | ogra_: hmm, if we don't need/want that rewriting (which should be obsolete for years now), why not drop the dep? | 15:13 |
| slangasek | is linux-base needed for something else? | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, it ships linux-version (which is actually the only binary in there after tgardner dropped perf from it), which flash-kernel uses to determine the laters kernel version | 15:14 |
| ogra_ | *latest | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | i'm incliend to just put an exit 0 at the top of the postinst | 15:17 |
| pitti | ogra_, slangasek: I filed a MIR for linux-base this morning, FYI | 15:18 |
| * ogra_ hugs pitti | 15:18 | |
| pitti | it seems fairly harmless | 15:18 |
| ogra_ | pitti, what else does use it ? | 15:18 |
| pitti | but I subscribed you and infinity to the bug for further comments | 15:18 |
| pitti | ogra_: just flash-kernel | 15:18 |
| pitti | bug 1006717 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1006717 in linux-base (Ubuntu) "[MIR] linux-base" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006717 | 15:18 |
| ogra_ | it would be if the postinst wouldnt fiddle with hdparm.conf or udev rule rewriting | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | or bootloader configs | 15:19 |
| slangasek | ogra_: so anything that would still be using /dev/[hs]d[a-z]* style names in any of these config files is already buggy, and *should* have been rewritten long ago (like, before we started having an armel port)... so I wouldn't worry about disabling it | 15:20 |
| pitti | erk, yes | 15:20 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, well, the prob is that the script doesnt take any arm bootloaders into account, so it will always show a debconf error that you have to rewrite your configs by hand | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | we need to get at least this bit quiet | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | (and i really dont like the idea that it touches your grub config if you manually forced it to i.e. /dev/sdx1) | 15:23 |
| cjwatson | it was sane for transitional purposes, but as slangasek says it sounds obsolete now | 15:23 |
| slangasek | ogra_: really? The code looks like it's not supposed to trigger on first install | 15:24 |
| slangasek | is_fresh_installation() | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | well, i just had that message on both, precise (using --force-overwrite to overcome the perf conflict) as well as on quantal | 15:25 |
| slangasek | oh, sorry, the definition of is_fresh_installation() keys on whether there are linux-image-* packages installed | 15:27 |
| slangasek | rather than on whether this is the first installation of linux-base | 15:28 |
| slangasek | phooey | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | and if fstab exists :) | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | sigh, my perl is so rusty ... thats what years of ubuntu work do to you | 15:29 |
| ogra_ | funnily i indeed have an fstab file as well as a linux-image-* package installed on both test systems i tested on | 15:30 |
| ogra_ | which somewhat indicates it doesnt even work | 15:30 |
| slangasek | well, no, the check is to not migrate if you *don't* have an fstab (or don't have linux-image-* packages) | 15:31 |
| slangasek | so that makes sense.. I just made a bad assumption based on the function name :) | 15:31 |
| ogra_ | oh | 15:32 |
| ogra_ | yeah, and i read it vbackwards :) | 15:32 |
| slangasek | ogra_: yeah, I would just disable this then | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | you mean the whole postinst ? | 15:33 |
| slangasek | yeah | 15:33 |
| slangasek | it's definitely not worth porting it to other bootloaders | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | right, i'll just remove it from the package completely then | 15:34 |
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| stgraber | stokachu: hi. I'm currently looking at your isc-dhcp SRU. I merged the pid bug with the one I used for the other SRUs (bug 985417) and am now looking at bug 588635 | 16:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 985417 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu Oneiric) "dhcpd cannot write /var/run/dhcpd.pid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/985417 | 16:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 588635 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu Oneiric) "apparmor profile for sbin.dhclient3 not compatible with wicd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588635 | 16:13 |
| stgraber | stokachu: for that second bug, can you update the bug report with the required SRU tags? (rational, test case, regression potential)? | 16:14 |
| stgraber | stokachu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure | 16:14 |
| stgraber | stokachu: I have the SRU ready for upload here, so as soon as the bug is updated I'll upload it | 16:16 |
| ari-tczew | one question: does quantal have the same toolchain like unstable right now? e.g. does it have gcc 4.7 default? | 16:43 |
| stokachu | stgraber: yea ill get that updated shortly for you | 16:46 |
| ikonia | ari-tczew: could you please check your pm when you get a moment | 16:49 |
| bregma | I need to upload an SRU change for 12.04 that has the same package version as the latest package in quantal -- should I add ~precise to the SRU package version, er sumpin'? | 16:51 |
| cjwatson | bregma: I would probably recommend appending ~ubuntu12.04.1 | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | or something like that | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | (assuming that the delta from current precise to this meets the SRU guidelines) | 16:54 |
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| Laney | jcastro: yo, I don't see a tenant or account ID on the page you linked from HPCloud. Just "Access Key ID" | 17:36 |
| Laney | do I need to do anything else? | 17:36 |
| jcastro | refresh the wiki page | 17:37 |
| jcastro | I just added it | 17:37 |
| jcastro | "Note that the Tenet ID doesn't show up on that page until you've clicked on "Activate Now: for one of the availability zones in the Dashboard." | 17:37 |
| Laney | hah, you did /just/ add it indeed. | 17:37 |
| Laney | thanks. | 17:37 |
| * Laney wonders how to make that choice | 17:39 | |
| jcastro | Laney: anything you can add from the "I started with nothing on hp cloud" to the instructions would be appreciated | 17:41 |
| jcastro | a bunch of us were already on it so it's difficult to figure out what starting from zero is like | 17:41 |
| Laney | sure | 17:42 |
| Laney | the account ID is on a different page, so I'll add a link to that | 17:42 |
| jcastro | <3 | 17:42 |
| stokachu | stgraber: re: SRU 588635 is done | 17:43 |
| * xnox can't find my USD credit card | 17:43 | |
| xnox | for hp cloud thing =) | 17:43 |
| Laney | I just used my UK one | 17:45 |
| stgraber | stokachu: thanks | 17:46 |
| stokachu | stgraber: anytime | 17:46 |
| stokachu | stgraber: now im off to wrestle autofs :D | 17:46 |
| stgraber | have fun ;) | 17:46 |
| xnox | stokachu: i have been merging autofs today, what's up? | 17:51 |
| xnox | or is it for stable release? =) | 17:51 |
| stokachu | xnox: hey, im working an issue where automount is hanging on reloading 11k mounts | 17:51 |
| stokachu | :X | 17:51 |
| stokachu | yea its for lucid atm | 17:52 |
| xnox | ... enjoy =) | 17:52 |
| stokachu | haha taking the hands off approach wish i was you :D | 17:52 |
| penguin42 | 11k mounts?! | 17:56 |
| stokachu | penguin42: thats just a rough estimate i haven't actually looked at the mount table yet | 18:01 |
| * penguin42 has plenty of sympathy for the automounter in that case | 18:03 | |
| * stokachu agrees | 18:04 | |
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| micahg | doko: pong | 18:54 |
| * xnox Ladies and Gentlemen, Minions and Overlords 2 hours left until FeatureDefinitionFreeze | 19:01 | |
| ScottK | StevenK: I just did my first package removal. Feels good. | 19:11 |
| highvoltage | nice | 19:11 |
| xnox | ScottK: I got a feeling =) that tonight gonna be a real good night =) | 19:15 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 19:15 |
| xnox | ScottK: can you remove stale binaries of bitcoin on powerpcc only? | 19:16 |
| dobey | bdmurray: hey, can you remove one of the requested reviews on https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/lptools/grab-descriptions/+merge/106469 ? then i can review it and get it landed (i added lptools to a tarmac instance to land the branches) | 19:17 |
| xnox | although it will be dealt as part of powerpc port cruft | 19:17 |
| bdmurray | dobey: either one of them? | 19:20 |
| dobey | bdmurray: yeah | 19:21 |
| bdmurray | dobey: there is only a possibility to reassign not remove. should I resubmit then? | 19:23 |
| dobey | hmm, weird. nah | 19:23 |
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| ScottK | xnox: I can. Please file a bug explaining what you want removed and why and subscribe (not assign) ubuntu-archive. | 19:38 |
| xnox | Ok. | 20:08 |
| xnox | ScottK: ok, thanks. | 20:08 |
| tjaalton | why does sbuild fail with "E: Can't determine architecture of chroot:" these days, on precise? | 20:35 |
| tjaalton | only thing i've chagned is the kernel (3.4 from quantal) | 20:35 |
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| xnox | pae kernel? | 20:37 |
| tjaalton | amd64 | 20:37 |
| xnox | hmm. no clue. pass. | 20:37 |
| geser | and when you boot the old kernel it works again? | 20:38 |
| tjaalton | i'll try, but it's too unstable to use | 20:39 |
| tjaalton | geser: exactly | 20:41 |
| geser | if my perl foo is good enough this error happens if "dpkg --print-architecture" fails | 20:43 |
| tjaalton | I'll try with a backport kernel, this one was built on quantal | 20:43 |
| tjaalton | dpkg --print-architecture worked fine though | 20:44 |
| barry | stgraber: could i ask a favor of you to bump this build: https://launchpad.net/~barry/+archive/python/+build/3539392 | 20:49 |
| stgraber | barry: done | 20:49 |
| barry | stgraber: thanks! | 20:50 |
| hallyn | all right. my struct has (more than) two fields, 'char *name' and 'char *error_string'. when i set 'c->error_string = NULL;', the previously correctly set c->name becomes "". Does this ring any bells with anyone? | 21:22 |
| hallyn | I can't reproduce it with a minimal testcases | 21:22 |
| geser | you sure that setting error_string destroys your name? | 21:25 |
| hallyn | i print it out right before, and right after | 21:25 |
| hallyn | well, clearly i'm corrupting my stack somewhere | 21:26 |
| hallyn | i'll look tomorrow, need to clear my head. thanks | 21:26 |
| YokoZar | Is there a set group of Ubuntu Ruby folks like there is for Python or do we just inherit from Debian? | 21:40 |
| slangasek | what do you mean by "set group"? I'm not aware there's a set group of Ubuntu Python folks either | 21:42 |
| YokoZar | slangasek: What I mean is when I think of python packages I tend to think of folks like scottk and doko | 21:43 |
| YokoZar | even though it's informal | 21:43 |
| slangasek | ah, well, the ruby packages seem to be in sync with Debian at the moment, so I don't know | 21:45 |
| ScottK | No. There isn't. | 21:49 |
| barry | stgraber: one more favor ;) https://launchpad.net/~barry/+archive/python/+build/3539477 | 22:02 |
| stgraber | barry: done | 22:03 |
| barry | stgraber: thx! | 22:03 |
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| psusi | cjwatson, how does d-i locate the installation cdrom? in particular when it's actually a usb flash drive? it works fine for me on real hardware, but when I boot a qemu vm from my flash stick, d-i says it can't find the cdrom... the desktop image works fine though, it's just a problem with d-i | 23:42 |
| micahg | roaksoax: you seem to be forgetting to pass -v when creating the .changes files | 23:56 |
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