[09:13] Hello ashams :D [09:33] hi ashams [09:33] hi MohamedAlaa98 [11:41] Hello seiflotfy [11:41] sorry for late :) [11:42] hello cseslam :) [11:44] seiflotfy: sorry for late I didn't see the notification [11:50] looks like all you are busy here :-$ [11:51] hi Mohamed [11:52] hi cseslam [11:53] did you finish seiflotfy's vala codes? [11:54] MohamedAlaa98: i built my code on top of it [11:54] and will put it up for review [11:54] oh, nice [11:55] Good luck :) [12:02] thelinuxer: shewaya kman w hwl3 f ubuntu :D [12:03] cseslam: it has been proved to be a domestic hazardous product :D [12:03] malak bas yabny ? [12:03] maho ba2a kewayes aho ba3d el update [12:19] elsot bisht3'l w yfsl lw7do :D [12:19] fe 3la tool reports l crashes, bs mafesh 2odame ay crashes bt7sl [12:20] did u try to upgrade ? [12:20] also mawdoo3 el crashes dah check el details beta3et el crash [12:21] cseslam: i had that too :d [12:21] hi seiflotfy :) [12:21] anyhow thelinuxer cseslam made a contirbution to zeitgeist that i am building on top of [12:21] cool :) [12:21] and it will land in gnome and ubuntu [12:22] he ported my python logger to vala [12:22] :d [12:22] yeah told me about that script [12:22] now i am making it part of the zeitgeist-dahub process [12:22] what is that ? [12:23] well basically its some kind of passive logger (that monitors gtk and kde recent managers) and pushes events into zeitgeist-engine [12:23] now we added a telepathy-observer (for chats) [12:24] eshta cool [12:25] but ubuntu was torutring me today [12:25] due to some weird gtk patches [12:26] the amount of gtk patches they have that are not insync with upstream is critical [13:04] seiflotfy: things take time to get upstream .. [13:04] i dont think those will ever be accepted upstream really [13:05] and its been like that for a while [13:05] r they that bad ? [13:05] well the scrollbar for example [13:05] its an ubuntu hack and not generic for all [13:05] i mean this is open source [13:05] and i like it [13:05] but it just make it a pain for me to develop upstream stuff [13:21] cseslam: http://fpaste.org/QbaG/ [13:22] great job man [13:23] but i have one question, why vala ? most of people now prefer it over python [13:23] vala generates C code that is then compiled [13:23] it makes it faster than python [13:23] also python has a terrible startup time and is not supported on mobile environments [13:23] whereareas vala u can always use the produced C code [13:24] i see [13:24] so it is basically translating your C# like code to C [13:24] python is good for apps [13:25] but for services that run the whole time you should go with C/C++ since the memory consumption is much more less [13:25] Elementary members use vala for their apps [13:25] cseslam: yes i know [13:25] then i will keep using python for my apps [13:25] I know the elementary team personally (we meet at conferences) [13:25] lucky you [13:25] cseslam: i advise you to use python in apps [13:25] it is simple [13:25] and allows easy contributions [13:26] yep python ease the job [14:14] seiflotfy: is this anyway near what you want ? http://youtu.be/kEs6qSo727E [14:59] cseslam: perfect [14:59] continue please [14:59] :d [14:59] cseslam: u rock [14:59] seiflotfy; thank you [15:00] i still have to understand the time lib [15:00] and how to use it