[03:36] cjwatson: well live booting works off local media, but Ubuntu's busybox-initramfs lacks tftp, thus: [03:36] Begin: Trying tftp -g -b 10240 -r 203.7.155.1/understudy/filesystem.squashfs -l /live/image/live/filesystem.squashfs ... /init: line 14: tftp: not found [03:36] ...what's the best way to get that applet in the initrd? Install busybox, copy it over the top of the busybox-initramfs version? [03:37] I'd grab the busybox source, tweak debian/config/pkg/initramfs, rebuild [03:37] and file a bug since that should be easy for us to add for the future [03:38] Well AFAICT it was by design since lots of other applets are also missing compared to debian's busybox [03:38] I assumed it was to make space in initrd for plymouth :P [03:41] For now I'm trying this: http://paste.debian.net/172037/ [03:44] when I ask you to file a bug, you can safely assume it isn't by design [03:44] it's by design that busybox and busybox-initramfs are different; but your imputation is clearly false since busybox-initramfs predates plymouth by several years [03:46] using busybox will *probably* work, though I don't remember if there's anything turned on in busybox-initramfs and not in busybox. In general we considered it useful to keep busybox-initramfs as small as reasonably possible since it does have some effect on boot time, but adding tftp wouldn't break the bank [03:48] cjwatson: except then you get feature creep "one more applet won't hurt" [03:48] OTOH your ramdisks are about double Debian's in size atm (12 vs 20ish MB) IIRC, and a busybox with ALL the apps is still only a couple of MB IIRC [03:50] feature creep that's still within the upper bound set by the size of busybox doesn't really count much in my boo [03:50] k [03:50] last I checked, the vast majority of the initramfs size lay in kernel modules [03:50] to the point where it really wasn't desperately worth looking at anything much else [03:51] Woot, that approach I pasted worked [03:51] * cjwatson returns to bed, having exorcised the things he woke up at 1:30am being unable to get out of his head [03:52] http://paste.debian.net/172045/ [03:52] Sorry to wake you [03:52] You didn't [03:53] Now my only issue is this machine has 256MB RAM and to boot of TFTP I need to copy the .sq to it, so I need to make sure I don't make the image too big :-) [05:42] cjwatson: FYI, busybox head w/allyesconf except selinux, is 2.7MB on x86_64 === sagaci_ is now known as sagaci