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| * skaet waves | 14:00 | |
| * stgraber waves | 14:00 | |
| skaet | 12.04.1 time? | 14:01 |
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| stgraber | yep | 14:01 |
| stgraber | #startmeeting Ubuntu 12.04.1 team meeting | 14:01 |
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| jamespage | o/ | 14:02 |
| stgraber | seb128 told me he won't attend this week's meeting but should be able to make it to the next ones | 14:02 |
| * stgraber pulls the list of attendees and does some pinging | 14:02 | |
| stgraber | stokachu, arges, smoser: around? | 14:03 |
| smoser | o/ | 14:03 |
| stokachu | o/ | 14:03 |
| NCommander | stgraber: thanks | 14:04 |
| stgraber | right, so welcome to the first 12.04.1 team meeting | 14:04 |
| stgraber | I "think" we now have the final team list with jamespage and smoser being the two last additions (from the server team) | 14:04 |
| stokachu | arges is sick today so he wont make it | 14:05 |
| stgraber | stokachu: ok, thanks | 14:06 |
| stgraber | the idea behind this meeting is that every 2 weeks until the release of 12.04.1, we can do a quick review of what still needs to land, what's broken and not fixed yet and make sure we have resources working on these | 14:06 |
| * stgraber tries to get LP to give him some useful bug lists | 14:08 | |
| stokachu | i do have one for the server team | 14:08 |
| stgraber | stokachu: go ahead, while I'm digging for good bug lists :) | 14:09 |
| stokachu | ok | 14:09 |
| stokachu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/520386, (mir @https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcf/+bug/904014) | 14:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 520386 in libvirt (Ubuntu Lucid) "libvirt-bin hypervisor does not support virConnectNumOfInterfaces / unable to create domain with virt-manager using network bridge" [Low,Confirmed] | 14:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 904014 in netcf (Ubuntu) "[MIR] netcf" [Undecided,In progress] | 14:10 |
| skaet | stgraber, http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html has what teams still have on their commit to fix list. | 14:10 |
| skaet | however, there's alot that's come in that needs to be looked at. | 14:10 |
| skaet | I know of several critical that aren't on that list. | 14:11 |
| skaet | bug 944546, bug 751689, bug 949641 | 14:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 944546 in libcommons-cli-java (Ubuntu Precise) "StringIndexOutOfBoundsException in HelpFormatter.findWrapPos" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/944546 | 14:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 751689 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "ThinkPads overheat due to slow fans when on 'auto'" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/751689 | 14:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 949641 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu Precise) "Installing both fglrx and fglrx-updates results in: error exit status 1 -"/etc/init.d/atieventsd exists during rc.d purge"" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949641 | 14:12 |
| smoser | bug 1003842 | 14:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1003842 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "dnsmasq sometimes fails to resolve private names in networks with non-equivalent nameservers" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1003842 | 14:13 |
| skaet | several other high ones that are new as well... | 14:13 |
| stgraber | apparently not all of these are targeted for 12.04.1 | 14:14 |
| stgraber | or rather, none of these :) | 14:14 |
| jamespage | sounds like that would be a good first action - review these bugs and others and target for 12.04.1 | 14:15 |
| stokachu | for mine I'd like server team to review to see if its feasible to target for 12.04.1 | 14:15 |
| stgraber | yeah, it's always easy to decide later on that they won't make it for 12.04.1 and re-target to -updates or 12.04.2 | 14:15 |
| stgraber | ideally, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.04.1 should be an up to date representation of what's going on with 12.04.1 | 14:16 |
| stokachu | definately, just wanted to make sure its on the radar | 14:16 |
| * skaet nods | 14:16 | |
| skaet | in terms of reviewing bugs, scope should probably be wider than those mentioned above. | 14:17 |
| stgraber | so I think it'd make sense to always first target to 12.04.1 when we see a bug that we think should be fixed for 12.04.1, then let the team responsible for the package make the decision of doing it for 12.04.1 or postponing to 12.04.2/-updates (with a reason, ideally :)) | 14:17 |
| smoser | so, to be clear, above, those bugs should have a 12.04 task and be targetted to 12.04.1 ? | 14:17 |
| stgraber | yes | 14:18 |
| skaet | should be a precise task, rather than 12.04 task, but yeah. ;) | 14:18 |
| skaet | milestone should be 12.04.1 | 14:19 |
| stokachu | question, where do i set the task? | 14:19 |
| skaet | target to series | 14:19 |
| stokachu | ah | 14:19 |
| skaet | should give you the option. :) please mark it to quantal too, if its known to affect that one as well. | 14:20 |
| stokachu | gotcha | 14:20 |
| * xnox was told not to target to quantal as the default task status tracks that. | 14:21 | |
| stgraber | if you don't have the right to target/milestone bugs, ping me and I'll do it for you, but I guess most of us have the required rights | 14:21 |
| stgraber | xnox: it does but it's rather confusing, so I usually prefer to explicitly target to quantal (which makes the default task disappear) | 14:22 |
| * xnox nods and agrees | 14:22 | |
| skaet | +1, makes it easier for finding. | 14:22 |
| * skaet is willing to help out with the series and target/milestoneing if needed too. | 14:23 | |
| stgraber | another source of bugs that we didn't mention yet but is really important for the point release is https://errors.ubuntu.com | 14:23 |
| skaet | indeed. Most of them should be getting bug numbers associated with them, but its good to see imapct. | 14:23 |
| skaet | or rather the high impact ones should be ;) | 14:24 |
| stgraber | it'd be good to have someone from each engineering team go through that list once a week or so and make sure that any frequent crasher is properly milestoned to 12.04.1 and that someone from there team is actively working on a fix | 14:24 |
| stokachu | curious why 2,3 off that list dont have bugs associated? | 14:24 |
| stgraber | I can't remember exactly what we said in the UDS session, but looking at the current state, anything that crashes > 100 times a day, should probably be actively investigated at this time | 14:24 |
| stgraber | stokachu: probably means that nobody with a similar stacktrace reported it to Launchpad | 14:25 |
| stokachu | ok | 14:25 |
| stgraber | so these should definitely be the priority as it means they aren't currently showing up on LP at all | 14:26 |
| * skaet nods | 14:26 | |
| skaet | getting the teams looking at the errors.ubuntu.com list is a bit of a culture change, and this is a good place to start that behaviour changes from. ;) | 14:27 |
| skaet | Other info that might be useful is that the schedule for 12.04.1 can be found: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule | 14:28 |
| skaet | Its been updated now with the latest info from UDS. | 14:28 |
| skaet | (and subsequent discussions ;) ) | 14:28 |
| skaet | If people want to know when we'll be having testing windows, prior to that release, the information for that is captured on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock | 14:29 |
| skaet | in the QA columns, look for events starting "P-". | 14:29 |
| skaet | If anyone has any questions about it, feel free to ping me. | 14:31 |
| * skaet done | 14:32 | |
| stgraber | thanks skaet | 14:32 |
| stgraber | so I quickly drafted an agenda for our next meetings: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1016424/ | 14:33 |
| stgraber | does that seem to cover what people want to discuss here, did I miss something? | 14:33 |
| jamespage | LGTM | 14:34 |
| smoser | i think that looks good, skaet | 14:34 |
| skaet | stgraber, looks fine by me. | 14:34 |
| stokachu | looks good | 14:34 |
| stgraber | cool, updated the google calendar event to include the agenda then | 14:35 |
| stgraber | does anyone have something they wish to discuss at this meeting? any controversial bug or something that should be considered for 12.04.1? | 14:35 |
| stokachu | i dont atm | 14:36 |
| ScottK | Just as a mention ... KDE SC 4.8.3 hit precise-updates yesterday. We may (not sure) be able to get 4.8.4 in before 12.04.1. | 14:36 |
| ScottK | It's sched for release June 5. | 14:37 |
| stgraber | ScottK: what's the expected release date for 4.8.4? | 14:37 |
| jamespage | smoser: I'm right in saying the first set of SRU updates for openstack should land in -proposed in the next week or so? | 14:37 |
| ScottK | If we follow the timeline we managed for 4.8.3, it should make it fine. | 14:38 |
| stgraber | ScottK: looks like you should have way enough time to have it packaged and pushed through the SRU process then | 14:38 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 14:38 |
| xnox | well I have requests to update ef2progs, btrfs-tools, mdadm and lvm2 for 12.04.1. I have/will prepare -sru's but I need qa assistance to test those. | 14:38 |
| smoser | jamespage, verified your question against zul. | 14:39 |
| xnox | (just the all/most filesystems stack) | 14:39 |
| stgraber | xnox: do you just need testers or very specific setup? my feeling so far is that the QA team doesn't have a whole lot of time to help with SRU verification | 14:39 |
| skaet | xnox, are there auto tests, or are you looking for manal. | 14:39 |
| skaet | manual even. | 14:39 |
| skaet | ? | 14:39 |
| xnox | skaet: both. QA install/upgrade tests with updated packages. both auto and some manual. | 14:40 |
| skaet | xnox, for install/upgrade testing, synch with gema and jibel. | 14:40 |
| xnox | My access to QA/kernel machines with multiple disks for RAID testing is still pending. And I don't want to push mdadm stuff to precise without testing it first. | 14:40 |
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| skaet | for the manual testing, let baloons know the details of what you're looking for. | 14:41 |
| stgraber | xnox: are these changes already in quantal? | 14:41 |
| skaet | there's a slot scheduled for some precise testing in July, may make sense to aim for that? | 14:41 |
| xnox | stgraber: not really SRU testing, more general overall testing - it may work as an sru, but fresh .1 install or upgrade from lucid may go haywire and I don't have capacity to test that. | 14:41 |
| xnox | skaet: yes. Ok i will discuss it with people. | 14:42 |
| xnox | stgraber: some, not all yet. | 14:42 |
| xnox | [ACTION] xnox to prepare a target list for fs stack for 12.04.1 | 14:42 |
| meetingology | ACTION: xnox to prepare a target list for fs stack for 12.04.1 | 14:42 |
| stgraber | xnox: ok. Make sure these bugs are targeted to precise/12.04.1 so they show up on the list | 14:43 |
| xnox | [ACTION] xnox to liase with ballons, gema and jibel w.r.t. testing | 14:43 |
| meetingology | ACTION: xnox to liase with ballons, gema and jibel w.r.t. testing | 14:43 |
| xnox | stgraber: ok. | 14:43 |
| xnox | .. | 14:43 |
| skaet | :) | 14:44 |
| skaet | stgraber, can we use the .. convention in this meeting? | 14:44 |
| stgraber | skaet: sure | 14:44 |
| stgraber | .. | 14:44 |
| skaet | :D | 14:44 |
| stgraber | btw, might be worth pointing out that we have daily builds of precise going on at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/precise/ (and other <product>/precise directories) | 14:45 |
| * xnox yeah =) | 14:45 | |
| stgraber | skaet: do you know if QA is doing daily testing of these? | 14:46 |
| skaet | stgraber, I'll take the action to get an update published. | 14:46 |
| jamespage | stgraber, are there plans for a -server daily image as well? | 14:46 |
| skaet | which mail list should we be using between meetings? | 14:46 |
| stgraber | jamespage: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/precise/ | 14:47 |
| jamespage | stgraber, thanks - found it at the same time :-) | 14:47 |
| skaet | by update published, meant to say, update on the status of whether these are all being run still in jenkins, and where to find the results. ;) think they are, but need to double check. | 14:47 |
| skaet | .. | 14:47 |
| * skaet suggests ubuntu-release | 14:48 | |
| xnox | [ACTION] skaet to get an update on the status of daily QA testing of whether these are all being run still in jenkins, and where to find the results. | 14:48 |
| meetingology | ACTION: skaet to get an update on the status of daily QA testing of whether these are all being run still in jenkins, and where to find the results. | 14:48 |
| stgraber | skaet: good question, mostly depend on the expected trafic I guess. Any of -release, -qa or -devel would be appropriate but -release is probably the best as it's likely of interest of most subscribers | 14:48 |
| skaet | coolio. and thanks xnox | 14:48 |
| stgraber | .. | 14:49 |
| stgraber | can everyone make sure they are subscribed to ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com? | 14:49 |
| xnox | #agreed to target all relevant bugs to the milestone, such that https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.04.1 shows a useful summary. | 14:50 |
| * xnox just old stuff | 14:50 | |
| stgraber | I'll be posting the meeting notes for this meeting, create a wiki page and put the agenda of the next meeting there and announce all that to ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-release | 14:50 |
| skaet | sounds good. :) | 14:51 |
| xnox | stgraber: well meetingology generates a good base template =) | 14:51 |
| xnox | if used properly | 14:51 |
| stgraber | so hopefully the next meeting will be better structured and properly announced, sorry for the last minute scheduling ;) | 14:51 |
| stgraber | anything else? | 14:51 |
| xnox | [TOPIC] AOB | 14:52 |
| * xnox I guess the chair should be doing the commands.... | 14:52 | |
| skaet | :) | 14:52 |
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| NCommander | We have highbank enablement stuff coming down the piple, but details are a bit light on when specifically, will get back to when they are all in | 14:52 |
| stgraber | xnox: yeah, I only wrote the agenda half way through the meeting, so using [TOPIC] now doesn't make a lot of sense :) but will definitely use the bot for the next one | 14:53 |
| stgraber | NCommander: ok, make sure any related bugs is targeted to precise/12.04.1 and that any other required changes (images?) is announced to -release (or at the next meeting) | 14:53 |
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| NCommander | will do so | 14:54 |
| stgraber | #endmeeting | 14:54 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu May 31 14:54:30 2012 UTC. | 14:54 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-05-31-14.01.moin.txt | 14:54 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-05-31-14.01.html | 14:54 |
| stgraber | thanks everyone! | 14:54 |
| jamespage | ttfn | 14:54 |
| skaet | thanks stgraber for getting this kicked off. :) | 14:55 |
| jibel | stgraber, can you add me to the list of attendees please, so I won't miss the next meeting ? | 14:56 |
| stgraber | jibel: I knew I'd be forgetting someone ;) sorry for that, added. | 14:57 |
| xnox | stgraber: as I took some actions, can you please invite me for the next one as well please. | 14:58 |
| * xnox not sure if i want/need to attend it every time | 14:58 | |
| jibel | np :) | 14:59 |
| stgraber | xnox: invited you to the next one | 14:59 |
| xnox | StevenR: cool thanks =) | 14:59 |
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