| ibeardslee | yeh .. I'll have to put some sunscreen on with the weather | 00:44 |
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| mwhudson | hey | 04:14 |
| mwhudson | so is there a bug for the generic "iwlwifi doesn't work very well problem" ? | 04:15 |
| * ajmitch sees quite a few bugs that mention iwlwifi against linux in lp | 04:17 | |
| ajmitch | not sure which of those would be the main bug to follow, if any | 04:18 |
| mwhudson | i see | 04:18 |
| mwhudson | of course i was seeing particular problems running the upstream kernel, which is not exactly what most people are doing | 04:18 |
| mwhudson | which kernel is in quantal currently? | 04:19 |
| mwhudson | i guess i know how to answer that | 04:19 |
| ajmitch | rmadison says 3.4.0-3.8 | 04:20 |
| ajmitch | not terribly helpful | 04:20 |
| mwhudson | 3.4 was only released last week or so so it must be pretty new | 04:20 |
| ojwb | hmm, seems i missed the announcement that the kernel had joined the chromium vs firefox version number inflation game | 04:36 |
| ajmitch | ojwb: it's not quite as bad, thankfully | 04:38 |
| ojwb | hmm, is there an easy way to find out if you have anything installed from a particular apt source? | 05:16 |
| * ojwb just found multiverse enabled | 05:16 | |
| ajmitch | ojwb: pretty sure you can do that with an aptitude search, maybe aptitude search "?section(multiverse) ?installed" | 05:20 |
| ojwb | cool, that seems to work (and says nothing) | 05:20 |
| * ojwb had got as far as: apt-cache policy .|sed '/Installed: [^(]/,/^[^ ]/p;d'|grep multiverse | 05:21 | |
| ojwb | which also says nothing | 05:21 |
| ajmitch | yeah I find aptitude can be pretty good for searching | 05:22 |
| mwhudson | fwiw, that aptitude command finds the few things i have installed from multiverse | 05:23 |
| mwhudson | so it seems to work | 05:23 |
| mwhudson | (also, figlet is in multiverse!?) | 05:23 |
| ojwb | yeah, I tried it on universe too | 05:23 |
| ojwb | mwhudson: licence insanity | 05:23 |
| mwhudson | i suppose that's to be expected | 05:23 |
| * mwhudson goes away for a bit | 05:24 | |
| * ajmitch wonders why wine-gecko1.4 is in multiverse | 05:24 | |
| ojwb | though apparently on files which probably contain no creative work | 05:24 |
| ojwb | ajmitch: " - Still a multiverse package, requires a build step on windows" | 05:26 |
| ojwb | says debian/changelog | 05:26 |
| chilts | morning | 19:42 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 20:07 |
| ibeardslee | first day of winter | 20:14 |
| ibeardslee | hmm looks like redhat are aligning themselves with the crippled PCs | 20:22 |
| ibeardslee | ok maybe a slight exaggeration .. http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html | 20:31 |
| ibeardslee | Would canonical do down the same path? | 20:31 |
| thumper | morning | 20:45 |
| chilts | wow, I never knew all of this was coming | 20:47 |
| chilts | seems like they just want to move towards Apple's model (and all in the name of security) | 20:47 |
| ajmitch | morning | 21:01 |
| ibeardslee | chilts: in the name of market domination disguised as security | 21:02 |
| mwhudson | morning | 21:26 |
| thumper | chilts: who is moving towards Apple's model? | 21:53 |
| ibeardslee | MS, stopping (making it harder for) other people using 'their' hardware | 21:54 |
| ajmitch | no surprises there - good intentions, bad implementation | 21:55 |
| chilts | thumper: well, their secure hardware/software things ... I just think it looks like taking control because of control, not because of security :) | 22:30 |
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