[00:15] <brousch> omgwtfbbq i have 240+ MB of updates
[00:18] <greg-g> snap-l: turns out I'm an idiot and subscribed to the canonical.com/rss.xml feed
[00:20] <gamerchick02> OMG. that's a lot of updates.
[00:36] <ColonelPanic001> gamerchick02: hi
[00:36] <gamerchick02> how's it been? I've been busy and out of the room for too long.
[00:36] <ColonelPanic001> okay
[00:37] <ColonelPanic001> you?
[00:41] <gamerchick02> good!
[00:41] <gamerchick02> hanging out. been really busy
[00:41] <gamerchick02> building a computer this weekend.
[01:12] <derekv> ah damn its 9
[01:12] <derekv> forgot
[01:12] <derekv> about coffe
[01:14] <rick_h_> doh
[01:20] <jrwren> what kind of computer are you building?
[01:25] <rick_h_> Blazeix: http://www.tdd-django-tutorial.com/tutorial/1/
[01:35] <gamerchick02> jrwren: i'm building a desktop. i5.
[01:35] <gamerchick02> actually i'm thinking of heading to bed. as boring as that is.
[01:35] <gamerchick02> i'll be on tomorrow night. see everyone tomorrow
[02:36] <jrwren> ha.  hahahaha.  haha.  http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/05/23/the-canonoical-community-team/
[02:41] <rick_h_> yea, that was funny. There was a funny photoshop of that as well
[11:47] <shakes808> Morning all
[12:38] <snap-l> morning
[12:38] <rick_h_> morning
[12:38] <brousch> MORNING
[13:10] <brousch> snap-l: Do you have a minute to give me your opinion on my PyOhio talk ideas? I'd love to hear from the other Python users too - Blazeix, jrwren, shakes808?
[13:10] <brousch> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/678/
[13:12] <shakes808> brousch: I am not a power user like the rest of them, but will give you my novice opinion
[13:13] <brousch> All of the talks are suitable for beginners, so you are my target audience ;)
[13:14] <Blazeix> i like the sound of #3, or if you chose something specific from the list in #2
[13:14] <Blazeix> like focusing just on python in "inkscape and blender", or python on android
[13:15] <brousch> Blazeix: yeah, i would have to focus on just a few
[13:16] <brousch> or i would break #2 into 2 talks, maybe one each day
[13:18] <brousch> You're not the only one who specifically mentioned Python on Android, so I guess there is more interest in that than I thought
[13:20] <snap-l> I like #3, but #2 is also pretty interesting.
[13:20] <snap-l> brousch: ^^
[13:21] <shakes808> brousch: I like them all. I would be interested and enthralled by them all.
[13:21] <shakes808> #1 - As a beginner and learning GIT, Pyramid, virtualenv and other utils, this would be a really good presentation along with the hosting and how to test and present it to the masses.
[13:21] <shakes808> #2 - Like you just said, split it up into multiple talks. Could present the same program on a Linux box and then compare it to a Windows box ( I know there is a difference coming from Windows ). The other half (Embedded, Devices) would be interesting if you can show a working app on an Android device and Nintendo DS.
[13:21] <shakes808> #3 - Building a Web Framework might be alittle over the head of a novice, I would think, but still intriguing.
[13:21] <shakes808> Like I said, they all would keep my interest.
[13:22] <brousch> OK, so if all 3 talks were at the same time, which would you go to?
[13:22] <shakes808> brousch: hope that helps at all, coming from your "target audience"
[13:22] <snap-l> brousch: none of them, because rick_h_'s talk would probably conflict. :)
[13:22] <brousch> then i would have to cancel my talk to go to his ;)
[13:22] <shakes808> At the point where I am at, I would probably go to #1's talk because that is what I am getting into currently
[13:23] <snap-l> brousch: In all seriousness, I'd probably pick #2
[13:23] <snap-l> I couldn't care less about Django
[13:23] <rick_h_> gotta love that "Help me pick one pls"
[13:23] <rick_h_> "#1 , #2, #3"
[13:23] <snap-l> Tha lady or the tiger
[13:23] <brousch> well I did ask for comments, too
[13:24] <snap-l> Hm, haven't heard of kivy
[13:24] <brousch> And the comments help me understand why folks would choose one over the other
[13:24] <brousch> Like there is interest in #2, if I narrow the scope to certain programs
[13:25] <brousch> Thanks guys
[13:26] <brousch> Also, this is truly an historic day. I have now been called a "fucking cunt" for something I wrote in which I was not trolling. http://clusterbleep.net/blog/2012/05/09/ubuntu-12-04-splash-screen-lockup-with-livecd/#comment-543682386
[13:26] <shakes808> brousch: looks like that was the one you were leaning towards lol
[13:27] <snap-l> brousch: Sounds like someone is an asshole, and it isn't you.
[13:27] <brousch> shakes808: Well I think they're all interesting, and I would have to learn or re-learn for each of them
[13:27] <shakes808> gotcha
[13:28] <brousch> snap-l: yeah, i got weeks of "thanks" and "good instructions" in the comments and then that one today
[13:30] <shakes808> For #'s 1 and 2, I would say that #1 would be more relevant than #2. #2, to me, would be something you would present for a "Look at what Python can do and come join the movement towards python" whereas #1 is more of "You are all learning or looking to replace PHP and here are the steps you need to get that started"
[13:31] <snap-l> brousch: I think it's the impatient guest user
[13:31] <brousch> yeah, i'm pretty sure it is
[13:32] <rick_h_> some days...I feel like a badass :)
[13:33] <brousch> shakes808: Interesting view of #2. I am going more for "You all program with Python. Did you know you could also do these awesome things with it?" I'll have to make that more clear if I pick it.
[13:33] <brousch> rick_h_: Come on now. You're a badass every day
[13:34] <shakes808> brousch: I can see that point as well. I don't know how long it will take you to do what you need to do for your presentation BUT ... what if you work on both and then take a quick poll of your guests base :D
[13:34] <shakes808> lol
[13:35] <brousch> I have way too much other stuff. I'll be busting ass just to do one. Hopefully I won't be finishing it an hour before I present like last time ;)
[13:36] <shakes808> HA HA, hopefully not
[13:36] <brousch> That's probably how the infamous girl-pooped-on-by-horse gif got in there
[13:37] <shakes808> ???? WHAT????
[13:38] <brousch> You can watch it, if you have an hour to waste. There's not really much useful content http://blip.tv/pyohio/django-and-google-app-engine-why-i-m-using-flask-and-amazon-ec2-5437519
[13:39] <snap-l> rick_h_: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pivrz/
[13:42] <shakes808> brousch: Will watch it tonight
[13:42] <brousch> shakes808: Your time would really be better spent watching any other PyCon/PyOhio/DjangoCon video ;)
[13:43] <shakes808> HA HA
[13:43] <shakes808> I will have to search for Pyramid vids
[13:43] <shakes808> is there a PyConMi?
[13:44] <snap-l> Not yet.
[13:46] <shakes808> There should be :D
[13:47] <shakes808> I would go. Where are the PyCon's usually located? A place like a hotel or COBO or GM Towers?
[13:52] <brousch> I think so
[13:53] <shakes808> I see something about the Hyatt and some Convention Center. What would it take to get it to come to MI?
[13:54] <brousch> A miracle
[13:54] <brousch> It was in Chicago a few years ago
[13:54] <shakes808> So it isn't always in the same place?
[13:55] <shakes808> It is the traveling show of Python lol
[13:55] <brousch> Right, it was in Chicago, then Atlanta, then California
[13:55] <brousch> PyCon is the US Python conference. There are also smaller regional conferences like PyOhio, and big conferences in Europe
[13:57] <shakes808> cool
[13:57] <brousch> And Django has its own conferences in the US and abroad
[13:58] <shakes808> I need to get on these happenings lol
[13:58] <brousch> I've actually gotten a lot from the DjangoCon talks. It's really more Python web conference since 3/4 of the talks are not Django-specific or have a very small amount of Django-specific content
[13:58] <brousch> http://pyvideo.org ;)
[13:58] <brousch> I watch them while I'm riding the exercise bike
[13:59] <shakes808> nice
[14:16] <jrwren> brousch: I didn't like your question. You should know which topic you are most passionate about. If you don't, then you are ambivalent about all and shouldn't give a talk. If you do, then your choice is made.
[14:16] <brousch> bah
[14:17] <brousch> I am not "passionate" about any of them, but I like PyOhio and getting people to give talks is the hardest part of their job
[14:19] <jrwren> when is submit deadline? I'll submit something.
[14:19] <brousch> I think my question about which talk interests you most is legitimate
[14:19] <brousch> Tomorrow
[14:21] <brousch> Actually I would say I'm most passionate about Python on Android. I've given a couple of talks and spent quite a bit of free time messing with it
[14:27] <jrwren> then I vote for that one.
[14:37] <brousch> Excellent, thanks
[15:14] <brousch> jrwren: I think you're right
[15:29] <jrwren> about the android talk?
[15:29] <jrwren> has anyone here installed android x86 on old laptop hardwrawe?
[15:30] <brousch> I tried in a virtual machine. It worked, but I couldn't get Netflix running, which was my purpose in trying it
[15:30] <brousch> Hm, I may have also gotten it installed on my EeePC 901, but I'm not sure
[15:38] <brousch> jrwren: Yeah, I think you're right about the Python on Android talk. I would have the most fun putting it together, and there seems to be a decent amount of interest
[15:44] <snap-l> brousch: You have my vote.
[15:45] <snap-l> btw: Last month's phone bill with Ting.com: $27.05
[15:45] <jrwren> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html  "but would they boot Mandriva? Arch? Mint? Mepis?"  amused at lack of ubuntu there.
[15:45] <brousch> snap-l: One of the things I've done is run Django on Android. You'll love that
[15:45] <jrwren> what is ting.com? my vonage bill is about $17/mo post fees adn taxes
[15:45] <snap-l> brousch: That's serious chocolate in peanut butter there
[15:45] <jrwren> brousch: what sql backend did you use?
[15:46] <brousch> sqlite, but not sure how far along i got
[15:46] <snap-l> jrwren: https://ting.com/why-ting/
[15:46] <snap-l> It's mobile phone
[15:47] <snap-l> They actually credited me for service I didn't use
[15:49] <snap-l> $2 credit for messaging, $11 credit for data
[15:49] <snap-l> And that was with me using it a bunch during Penguicon
[15:50] <brousch> geez, nice
[15:51] <snap-l> $38 was my initial bill (L data, M text messages, S minutes)
[15:51] <snap-l> https://z6oc11q87.ting.com/
[15:52]  * snap-l is going to blog this. :)
[15:52] <jrwren> snap-l: impressive
[15:52] <snap-l> It's sprint, so take it for what it's worth
[15:52] <snap-l> but my only big issues were with some drop out spots around Royal Oak, and the wifi on the phone is worse than the iPhone.
[15:53] <snap-l> markedly worse.
[15:53] <brousch> requires a specific phone?
[15:53] <jrwren> sprint has good data don't they?
[15:53] <snap-l> if I hold the phone in the living room, it'll disconnect.
[15:53] <snap-l> jrwren: They're decent. 3G in Michigan
[15:53] <snap-l> hoping the Nextel decommissioning will bring more LTE. :)
[15:53] <snap-l> brousch: Requires you to buy their phone
[15:54] <snap-l> but it's month-to-month. No contract
[15:54] <brousch> ah, darn
[15:54] <brousch> I love my new LG Spectrum
[15:54] <jrwren> i think i'd like a mifi ting devices.
[15:54] <brousch> mifi makes sense
[15:55] <snap-l> They also support tethering on devices that support it.
[15:55] <snap-l> no extra charge. Bits are bits.
[15:55] <snap-l> Yeah, at the very least get a mifi device with them
[15:56] <snap-l> Each phone is $6 charge
[15:56] <snap-l> per month
[15:56] <jrwren> so buy the mifi outright, then $6/mo to keep it on, and that is all until I use bits? that sounds great.
[15:56] <snap-l> Nuts, they seem to not have the one feature phone I wanted to get my FIL
[15:56] <snap-l> Yep
[15:57] <snap-l> so if you have someone in your family that wants a phone for emergencies, it's $6 a month until they use it
[15:57] <snap-l> then it's whatever they use, rounded down
[15:58] <snap-l> (ie: if they use 3 minutes, it's the S plan)
[15:58] <snap-l> and if they have to call a tow truck, and get stuck on the phone for 3 hours, it just bumps up to the next level
[15:58] <snap-l> no penalties.
[16:07] <The_Machine> hey guys
[16:07] <The_Machine> quick question
[16:08] <The_Machine> I've only used linux on a very limited basis - installing ubuntu/fedora for my desktop a couple of times
[16:08] <The_Machine> i don't have a ton of time, but I would like to attempt to 'learn linux' again
[16:08] <The_Machine> but i would like to understand it on a fundamental basis
[16:08] <The_Machine> Have any suggestions as to a fun/friendly way for newb linux learning?
[16:09] <MaskedDriver> The_Machine: install and break it over and over again ;)
[16:09] <The_Machine> well, i'm a full time sys admin (windows) and a father of 4
[16:09] <The_Machine> so I don't have a ton of hours
[16:09] <_stink_> The_Machine: how do you want to end up using it?  as a crazy terminal guy, or a developer, or a plain old user?
[16:09] <The_Machine> but enough to where I would like to try to learn stuff
[16:09] <The_Machine> hmm
[16:10] <The_Machine> i guess from the approach that I take with a windows sysadmin role
[16:10] <The_Machine> I can pretty much fix anything, though i'm not a dev
[16:10] <MaskedDriver> so GUI all the way? or are you a PowerShell guy?
[16:10] <The_Machine> I mix that
[16:10] <The_Machine> I know my way around the command line
[16:10] <MaskedDriver> Then Linux won't be that difficult to get. Just need to learn the terminal syntax is all
[16:10] <The_Machine> but from a structual point of view, filesystems, permissions
[16:11] <MaskedDriver> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/index.html
[16:11] <The_Machine> how to clone a system?  What's the best backup strategies?
[16:11] <_stink_> ok, so a sysadmin approach.
[16:11] <The_Machine> Is ubuntu a good place to start or could i benefit from another distro?
[16:11] <The_Machine> I've used ubuntu for a long time, but at the same time, i haven't for about 3 years
[16:11] <_stink_> really, any modern distro would be fine.
[16:11] <The_Machine> i had it as my primary desktop for a year, but i didn't *learn* anything.
[16:11] <_stink_> including ubuntu.
[16:11] <MaskedDriver> Ubuntu does fine in the server realm. I am a CentOS server user myself, only using Ubuntu for desktop computing
[16:11] <The_Machine> except barrel is a neat toy, etc.
[16:12] <The_Machine> well, i wanted to start with the desktop again
[16:12] <The_Machine> even sysadmins have to admin desktops, right?
[16:12] <MaskedDriver> The_Machine: not if you have enough peons you don't ;)
[16:12] <_stink_> my sense is that you would benefit most by starting with your regular old install, then picking some feature you want to try, and googling/asking here about it and plain old try it.
[16:12] <The_Machine> hah
[16:13] <The_Machine> i'm a janitor - no peons.
[16:13] <MaskedDriver> My backups aren't typically "good" so I won't help you there.. I just tarball my entire install and move it to my redundant drive machine
[16:13] <The_Machine> configure SANs, configure backups, configure switches, configure databases, configure mail servers, roll out OS deployments
[16:13] <The_Machine> oh, and fix my mouse cursor.
[16:13] <_stink_> like backups, or software firewalls, or whatever
[16:13] <The_Machine> :P
[16:13] <_stink_> hah
[16:13] <MaskedDriver> Firewall: ClearOS ftw
[16:14] <The_Machine> polish my iphone
[16:14] <The_Machine> hah
[16:14] <The_Machine> sorry
[16:14] <The_Machine> anyway
[16:14] <The_Machine> so i do everything
[16:14] <_stink_> all i can say is that i "learned linux" by simply using it and trying stuff that i thought would be fun or good.
[16:14] <MaskedDriver> http://www.clearfoundation.com/Software/overview.html
[16:14] <The_Machine> I wonder if I should carry around two laptops :P
[16:14] <MaskedDriver> _stink_: that's how I learned too... trial and error
[16:14] <MaskedDriver> and lots and lots of Google
[16:14] <_stink_> right
[16:14] <The_Machine> yea, i mean..  i did that for years
[16:14] <The_Machine> but i never learned a ton
[16:15] <The_Machine> actually, it worked a little too well.
[16:15] <_stink_> The_Machine: did you ask humans too?
[16:15] <MaskedDriver> you probably didn't have a specific goal
[16:15] <The_Machine> nothing ever broke
[16:15] <_stink_> right
[16:15] <The_Machine> so many damn things are web based now
[16:15] <The_Machine> heh
[16:15] <MaskedDriver> Picking up Linux just to learn it is a hard thing... but picking up linux to learn how to set up a secure and stable web server helps
[16:16] <The_Machine> web servers are things i know least of..
[16:16] <The_Machine> set up an apache server or two
[16:16] <The_Machine> IIS all the way though, when it comes to production stuff
[16:16] <The_Machine> (yes, ew?  Works fine for me...)
[16:16] <MaskedDriver> icky
[16:16] <The_Machine> i never got the hate for IIS
[16:16] <The_Machine> if you know it, it works.
[16:16]  * The_Machine has never had an issue.
[16:16] <MaskedDriver> I'm a PHP developer, so IIS is the devil for guys like me
[16:16] <The_Machine> heh
[16:16] <The_Machine> i guess for devs i can see that
[16:17] <The_Machine> but when it comes to just hosting stuff that is preconfigured, i've always found things just move smooth
[16:17] <The_Machine> SharePoint or Exchange and those MS type technologies
[16:17] <The_Machine> or ASP stuff
[16:17] <MaskedDriver> depends.. if you're a .NET developer, IIS all the way. I have a windows 2008 R2 server that's actually a virtual host for my CentOS web server
[16:17] <The_Machine> I just say OK and make it happen
[16:17]  * The_Machine nods
[16:17] <MaskedDriver> been dabbling in .NET so I have IIS set up on that
[16:18] <MaskedDriver> but I'm so used to editing a simple conf file for my web server, that the gui tools confuse me
[16:18] <MaskedDriver> and PowerShell documentation isn't the best
[16:18] <The_Machine> i don't do a ton of powershell stuff
[16:18] <MaskedDriver> I have a little cheat sheet book for it, but meh
[16:18] <The_Machine> but it's pretty fun
[16:18] <The_Machine> it will become more and more relevent if/when windows makes more server OSes
[16:19] <The_Machine> i don't really know how to program anything.
[16:19] <The_Machine> I guess I should learn.
[16:19] <MaskedDriver> well, Server 2012 has the option to install PowerShell only... no GUI at all
[16:19]  * The_Machine was cutting down a tree yesterday
[16:19] <The_Machine> yep
[16:19] <The_Machine> 2008 had that option
[16:19] <The_Machine> where do you guys live?
[16:19] <MaskedDriver> that install lasted me about 15 minutes and I cried and deleted the virutal machine I was testing it with
[16:19]  * The_Machine guesses west side of the state
[16:19] <The_Machine> lol
[16:20] <MaskedDriver> I'm about 30 min north of Detroit.. Oakland County
[16:20] <The_Machine> i'm in bloomfield
[16:20] <The_Machine> same
[16:20] <The_Machine> parents live in troy
[16:20] <The_Machine> grew up in royal oak
[16:20] <MaskedDriver> Waterford
[16:20]  * The_Machine nods
[16:20] <The_Machine> cool.  I'm right by the silverdome so not far.
[16:20] <MaskedDriver> nice.. I just moved up here last June
[16:20] <The_Machine> same here
[16:20] <MaskedDriver> came from Ohio originally
[16:20] <The_Machine> It was last september
[16:21] <The_Machine> oh really?  that's funny, i know another linux developer who moved up here from ohio too
[16:21] <The_Machine> and he works in troy
[16:21] <MaskedDriver> not me lol
[16:21] <The_Machine> yea, he does come on freenode though
[16:22] <The_Machine> I gotta go - have to drive to my next appt
[16:22] <MaskedDriver> I was a web developer at Ohio State for 2 years after graduating there, met a girl a year in from up here and ended up moving up
[16:22] <The_Machine> (travelling consultant)
[16:22] <MaskedDriver> The_Machine: good luck with your Linux persuits
[16:22] <The_Machine> nice.  did you get married?
[16:22] <MaskedDriver> not yet
[16:23] <The_Machine> cool.  see ya around!
[16:23] <MaskedDriver> later
[16:28] <snap-l> Wow
[16:28] <snap-l> Conversation
[16:28] <MaskedDriver> snap-l: usually dead in here?
[16:28] <snap-l> Sometimes, during the work-day
[16:28] <MaskedDriver> aye
[16:29] <MaskedDriver> first time in here in a long time
[16:29] <snap-l> http://www.alderac.com/thunderstone/2012/05/26/download-thunderstone-print-and-play/ <- This is awesome
[16:30] <MaskedDriver> lol
[16:32] <rick_h_> feeling less badass, I didn't get anything to/back from space today: http://goo.gl/OC5aS
[16:34] <snap-l> rick_h_: You're still a badass
[16:34] <snap-l> though a badass that uses UPS to get things to and from space. :)
[16:36] <jrwren> I love this. http://lukeplant.me.uk/blog/posts/djangos-cbvs-were-a-mistake/
[16:40] <jrwren> lol @ you guys calling Server Core "PowerShell only"
[16:42] <MaskedDriver> you have to use PowerShell to use anything. It's a super dumbed-down UI
[16:42] <jrwren> yeah.
[16:42] <jrwren> its called "Server Core"
[16:43] <MaskedDriver> ah
[16:43] <MaskedDriver> gettin all technicall on us I see
[16:43] <MaskedDriver> with one l
[16:43] <jrwren> proper vocabulary is important.
[16:43] <MaskedDriver> so I've heard
[16:44] <jrwren> otherwise, I say "bad" and you think it is good like Michael Jackson's bad, but I meant bad like COPS and bad boys bad.
[16:44] <MaskedDriver> or somebody who is just bad at everything
[16:44] <MaskedDriver> but what you're arguing is context, not vocabulary
[16:53] <jrwren> semantics
[16:53] <jrwren> and semantics are important
[16:53] <MaskedDriver> precisely
[16:54] <MaskedDriver> what I've been saying all along ;)
[16:56] <snap-l> https://grepular.com/Protecting_Your_GNU_Linux_System_from_Dropbox
[16:57] <snap-l> Which should read: X will destroy us all!
[17:00] <snap-l> Also, apparently I can't go a month without some BS speculation on Valve / Steam for Linux
[17:01] <Blazeix> ooh, valve is finally releasing it, right?
[17:01] <snap-l> No, apparently they hired someone
[17:02] <snap-l> who apparently has done Linuxy things in the past
[17:02] <Blazeix> i hear they're releasing it july 17th
[17:02] <snap-l> which clearly suggests they're working on it
[17:02] <snap-l> Blazeix: I hear they're releasing it when the Mayan calendar runs out
[17:02] <snap-l> and it'll have every Valve game on it, day of release.
[17:03] <snap-l> and then the world will end.
[17:03] <MaskedDriver> snap-l: sounds pretty amazing to me :p
[17:03] <Blazeix> worth it
[17:03] <nixternal> some scientists say the mayan calendar already ran out, and if that is the case, well then Valve has yet another late release
[17:03] <MaskedDriver> one last hoo-rah
[17:03] <brousch> snap-l: I would like to subscribe to your newsletter
[17:03] <snap-l> nixternal: I thought they found a memo on the Mayan Calendar
[17:04] <MaskedDriver> snap-l: it was a conf file
[17:04] <nixternal> yeah, supposedly the mayans invented GTD, not Allen
[17:04] <snap-l> "Dear future mayans: should this calendar run out, please order a replacement supply at the following address"
[17:04] <nixternal> sadly enough, it was a local staples address
[17:04] <nixternal> interesting
[17:04] <snap-l> nixternal: Nah, the mayans invented Steven Covey
[17:05] <snap-l> The 7 habits of effective Mayan
[17:05] <snap-l> and the refillable planner
[17:05] <snap-l> Remember, the A priority is next to godliness.
[17:06] <MaskedDriver> snap-l: sounds familiar
[17:06] <snap-l> Sharpen the saw, because a dull saw makes a really bad sacrifice
[18:12] <snap-l> http://archive.org/details/audio_podcast <- Yay, OMC is on the front page. :)
[18:12] <rick_h_> woot!
[18:13] <snap-l> 25 more to 100 items. :)
[18:14] <brousch> You da man!
[19:17] <greg-g> snap-l: nice
[19:42] <snap-l> thanks. :)
[20:44] <brousch> rick_h_ is my idol. I am on steroids for some allergy thing now.
[20:45] <rick_h_> ruh roh
[20:45] <rick_h_> how many mg did they put you on?
[20:45] <shakes808> have a good one all
[20:47] <brousch> 50
[20:48] <rick_h_> brousch: ooh, that's a good dose
[20:48] <brousch> I am afraid I will rage out and beat my family
[20:48] <rick_h_> I've gone from 10-60
[20:48] <rick_h_> when it gets up there it's sucky
[20:48] <brousch> I've never had steroids before
[20:50] <brousch> What sucks about it?
[20:57] <_stink_> you've never seen the public service commercial about what happpens to the football and basketball if you take steroids?
[20:57] <brousch> I have not
[20:58] <_stink_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s23ccb1DWV4
[20:58] <_stink_> en espanol
[20:59] <brousch> gee, thanks
[21:00] <_stink_> sure.
[21:02] <snap-l> http://relapserecords.bandcamp.com/
[23:39] <brousch> Submitted my talk for PyOhio
[23:40] <rick_h_> brousch: yay!
[23:42] <brousch> Now I get to make 10,000 screenshots from android