| JontheEchidna | "So the official Oracle implementation of Java is new, now?" | 02:51 |
|---|---|---|
| JontheEchidna | "No, it's not new, it's ImplementationFactory.getInstance()" | 02:51 |
| rbelem | Darkwing, pong | 02:57 |
| Darkwing | rbelem: you get anything working? | 03:40 |
| apachelogger | "Don't forget the firmwares for Wifi, DVB-TV and so.." | 07:05 |
| apachelogger | I don't even get that | 07:05 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: nice one :P | 07:05 |
| Riddell | hi all | 07:25 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: hello (: | 07:25 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: how was the time off? (: | 07:26 |
| Riddell | I'd like to say relaxing but being me I was doing other useful community activities :) | 07:27 |
| Tm_T | sounds familiar | 07:27 |
| afiestas | hey, anybody knows if fuse module is loaded on Kubuntu 12.04 ? | 09:59 |
| apachelogger | isn't that on-demand loaded? | 09:59 |
| apachelogger | i.e. if you load something using fuse the kernel mod is loaded | 10:00 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: if the user is in the correct group, yes | 10:01 |
| Riddell | afiestas: packages can add users to groups if needed I think | 10:06 |
| afiestas | installing an new Kubuntu oina virtualbox to be 100% sure it works | 10:06 |
| afiestas | The only kubuntu isntall I have is a highly modified one, it works tehre | 10:07 |
| afiestas | but maybe I added the user to fuse group time ago | 10:07 |
| Riddell | ubuntu installs gvfs-fuse which might have something to do with it | 10:08 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: should be working otherwise ntfs would not be working | 10:08 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: ntfs-3g is based on fuse | 10:08 |
| afiestas | not really, ntfs-3g is mounted by udev | 10:09 |
| afiestas | udev doesn't run as your user but as root | 10:09 |
| afiestas | the question is, Is a normal user able to mount fuse file systems by default on Kubuntu? | 10:10 |
| afiestas | I need that to do some magic starbuck1 ask me for :p | 10:10 |
| apachelogger | ah right | 10:11 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: terribly unlikely that a normal user can insert modules though | 10:12 |
| Riddell | there is a fuse group on my system, my user isn't in it | 10:12 |
| afiestas | it is weird, in Ubuntu my user isn-t in fuse group either | 10:12 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1017688/ | 10:12 |
| afiestas | maybe ubuntu is doing the trick on someplace else | 10:12 |
| afiestas | GNOME uses it, there is a way | 10:13 |
| afiestas | :p | 10:13 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: well, gvfs might have to do with it | 10:13 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: well yes, if you polkit your way to a service that runs as a fuse user | 10:13 |
| afiestas | then I will polkit too | 10:13 |
| apachelogger | which generally speaking seems like the safer choice | 10:13 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: gvfs-fuse | 10:14 |
| apachelogger | exactly what I said :P | 10:15 |
| apachelogger | fuse mounts are run in a fusefied user and accessed via dbs | 10:15 |
| apachelogger | *dbus | 10:15 |
| afiestas | I know how gvfs works, question is still: How Ubuntu gvfs mounts gvfs-fuse ? | 10:17 |
| afiestas | via polkit? user? | 10:17 |
| Riddell | I guess you'd need to look at gvfs-fuse-daemon source to find that out | 10:23 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 10:30 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: Riddellit works well out of the box | 10:39 |
| afiestas | just installed a new kubuntu, apt-get install fusesmb and use it | 10:40 |
| Riddell | cool | 10:41 |
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| isemenov | Riddell: ping | 10:54 |
| isemenov | sorry for the delay, had to answer a phone call | 10:55 |
| Riddell | hi isemenov | 10:56 |
| Riddell | isemenov: so what had we done already? | 10:56 |
| isemenov | so, if I recall correctly, a month ago we arranged to let me ping oyu when I would have time, and you'd take me through the process in a ubuntu vm | 10:56 |
| isemenov | nothing yet - I was busy with studies back then :) | 10:56 |
| Riddell | isemenov: remind me what you're working on that'll need packaged? | 10:56 |
| isemenov | kde-baseapps | 10:57 |
| isemenov | and in particular plasma-widget-folderview | 10:57 |
| Riddell | isemenov: let me set up a machine we can work on | 10:58 |
| isemenov | ok | 10:58 |
| Riddell | it'll take a few minutes | 10:58 |
| Riddell | isemenov: do you have some way of taking notes? | 10:58 |
| isemenov | well yes, of course | 10:59 |
| Riddell | isemenov: do you have a launchpad id? | 11:05 |
| isemenov | Riddell: yes, though I need to recall it, just sec | 11:07 |
| seaLne | does anyone happen to know all the places akonadi hides config? deleting ~/.local/share/akonadi and stuff in ~/.kde/share/apps didn't seem to get rid of it all. i'm trying to start from fresh in the hope of it not crashing after a second | 11:07 |
| Riddell | seaLne: ~/.cache will have some? | 11:08 |
| seaLne | dosen't seem to | 11:08 |
| Riddell | isemenov: ~ragnarokk91 | 11:08 |
| Riddell | seaLne: ~/.config ? | 11:08 |
| Riddell | isemenov: ssh ec2-107-22-50-100.compute-1.amazonaws.com | 11:09 |
| Riddell | run byobu | 11:09 |
| seaLne | Riddell: ah .config has stuff | 11:10 |
| isemenov | Riddell: ok, thank you for the reminder | 11:10 |
| Riddell | isemenov: tell me when you've logged in | 11:11 |
| isemenov | Riddell: permission denied publickey | 11:12 |
| Riddell | isemenov: I added this key https://launchpad.net/~ragnarokk91/+sshkeys | 11:12 |
| isemenov | Riddell: my id_rsa.pub is identical | 11:13 |
| Riddell | sigh | 11:13 |
| isemenov | though I have done an os reinstall, but then copied the ~/.ssh folder over | 11:13 |
| Riddell | isemenov: what does ssh -c say when you log in? | 11:13 |
| Riddell | ssh -v rather | 11:13 |
| isemenov | it first sas signature correct | 11:14 |
| isemenov | Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/491210/ | 11:15 |
| Riddell | isemenov: try now, does it ask for a password? | 11:17 |
| isemenov | Riddell: no | 11:17 |
| isemenov | Riddell: I've re-uploaded the key to launchpad | 11:18 |
| Riddell | isemenov: ssh ubuntu@ec2-107-22-50-100.compute-1.amazonaws.com | 11:18 |
| isemenov | Riddell: works now! | 11:18 |
| isemenov | ok, now I will run byobu | 11:19 |
| Riddell | isemenov: groovy, you're in | 11:19 |
| Riddell | isemenov: so, what do you want to know? | 11:19 |
| Riddell | we can look at how to get the existing packaging | 11:19 |
| isemenov | Riddell: nice :) was the error on your side or my side? | 11:19 |
| Riddell | isemenov: user needed to be "ubuntu" | 11:20 |
| Riddell | we can look at how to build a package | 11:20 |
| isemenov | Riddell: my goal at the moment is to take an existing package, patch it, and re-package | 11:20 |
| Riddell | isemenov: we store our packaging in bzr so I guess checking that out is the first step | 11:21 |
| Riddell | bzr co lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps I think | 11:21 |
| Riddell | actually that might not work | 11:22 |
| Riddell | isemenov: but type that in see what it does | 11:22 |
| isemenov | Riddell: denied publickey again | 11:22 |
| isemenov | if that command was intended to be ran in byobu | 11:22 |
| Riddell | yeah I haven't uploaded my ssh keys onto this machine (so you don't steal them!) | 11:22 |
| Riddell | yep | 11:23 |
| Riddell | try bzr branch instead of co | 11:23 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: fusesmb also does the same only without dbus :) | 11:23 |
| isemenov | Riddell: same thing | 11:24 |
| * apachelogger did not remember there was a fusesmb actually ^^ | 11:24 | |
| afiestas | apachelogger: ? | 11:24 |
| isemenov | Riddell: be back in 5 min ok? another phone call here. should be the last one | 11:26 |
| Riddell | ok | 11:26 |
| Riddell | isemenov: I've used http instead of ssh for the checkout, on your machine you probably want to set it up with ssh to launchpad working so you can push branches and changes | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: fuse from user without fuse access | 11:29 |
| afiestas | without fuse access? | 11:29 |
| * Riddell lunches | 11:32 | |
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| isemenov_away | Riddell: let me apologise for the dealy, now I'm finally back | 11:53 |
| isemenov_away | >on your machine you probably want to set it up with ssh to launchpad working | 11:54 |
| isemenov_away | do you mean that packagers do use their own machines for packaging? are you using this cloud machine just ot be able to show me the process interactively? | 11:54 |
| Riddell | you can use whatever machine you want | 11:55 |
| isemenov_away | ok | 11:55 |
| Riddell | but it'll need ssh if you want to push the packaging branch to bzr (as we do in kubuntu packaging) | 11:55 |
| Riddell | and it'll need gpg if you want to sign the package needed before upload to ubuntu or a launchpad PPA | 11:56 |
| Riddell | this machine is so I can show you interactively, but I also use cloud machines quite a bit for packaging | 11:56 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: have you seen what we branched from bzr ? | 11:57 |
| isemenov_away | yes | 11:57 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: seen the patches directory? | 11:57 |
| Riddell | that's where patches go, they're managed by a tool called quilt so you can add new ones and apply and unapply them without getting too confused | 11:58 |
| Riddell | although quilt is another tool to learn | 11:58 |
| isemenov_away | ok | 11:59 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: is that kubuntu_folderwidget_drawing.diff one a patch you're familiar with? | 11:59 |
| Riddell | " * Add kubuntu_26_folderwidget_drawing.diff from upstream, fix | 12:01 |
| Riddell | rendering of box on folderwidget | 12:01 |
| Riddell | " | 12:01 |
| Riddell | says the changelog | 12:01 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: one of yours? | 12:01 |
| isemenov_away | Riddell: yes, seen it , should be mine | 12:01 |
| Riddell | groovy | 12:01 |
| isemenov_away | that one goes with qt 4.8.1 patched | 12:01 |
| isemenov_away | look in qt-x11 4.8.1 patches, should be there | 12:01 |
| isemenov_away | something with.. let's see.. qt-dnd-x11.cpp or similar | 12:01 |
| Riddell | kubuntu_33_shaped_drag.diff looks like it | 12:02 |
| Riddell | * Add kubuntu_33_shaped_drag.diff fixes LP: #987855 | 12:02 |
| Riddell | "problem in Qt dragging when all of the window target has been | 12:02 |
| Riddell | shaped out for input" | 12:02 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: want to remove that patch as a first packaging task? | 12:03 |
| isemenov_away | Riddell: doesn;t quite look like it | 12:04 |
| isemenov_away | it is about using ARGB for the drag pixmap | 12:04 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: so not this one? http://paste.kde.org/491228/ | 12:05 |
| isemenov_away | Riddell: no, definitely not | 12:05 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: this one? http://paste.kde.org/491240/ | 12:05 |
| isemenov_away | Riddell: yep | 12:05 |
| Riddell | * Add kubuntu_30_translucent_drag_pixmap.diff | 12:05 |
| Riddell | - use a translucent drag pixmap if compositing is active | 12:05 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: ok so we can remove the patch from the kubuntu packaging | 12:05 |
| Riddell | cd into kde-baseapps | 12:06 |
| Riddell | remove the file | 12:06 |
| isemenov_away | uhm why remove it? | 12:06 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: because we don't need it any more | 12:06 |
| isemenov_away | it's nt accepted in qt 4 yet | 12:06 |
| isemenov_away | or is it? | 12:06 |
| Riddell | remove the kde-baseapps one | 12:06 |
| isemenov_away | ok | 12:06 |
| Riddell | since we have the qt one | 12:06 |
| isemenov_away | ahh gotcha | 12:07 |
| isemenov_away | or no wait | 12:07 |
| isemenov_away | the one in kde-baseapps is complemantary | 12:07 |
| Riddell | ok | 12:07 |
| Riddell | not to be removed then | 12:07 |
| isemenov_away | it enables the halos | 12:08 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: let's do some kde-baseapps changes then | 12:08 |
| isemenov_away | ok | 12:08 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: what kde-baseapps source do you want to use? | 12:08 |
| Riddell | this machine has kdelibs 4.8 so I don't know if 4.9 beta will work with it | 12:08 |
| isemenov_away | Riddell: well there are no unofficial patches for folderview yet, except.. there is one debug patch | 12:10 |
| isemenov_away | that's for some people xperiencing a particular bug, which I don't have | 12:11 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: let's just play around | 12:11 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: get the kde-baseapps source with apt-get source kde-baseapps | 12:11 |
| isemenov_away | Riddell: is that root? | 12:12 |
| Riddell | I don't understand your question | 12:13 |
| Riddell | you just downloaded the kde-baseapps source and packaging from ubuntu 12.04 | 12:13 |
| Riddell | ls will reveal what's there | 12:13 |
| isemenov_away | noo, I mean, how do we run apt, is the user root? | 12:13 |
| Riddell | apt-get source just downloads to current directory | 12:14 |
| Riddell | so no need for root | 12:14 |
| Riddell | apt-get install will need root | 12:14 |
| isemenov_away | ok, I see | 12:14 |
| isemenov_away | Riddell: I'll give you the patch in a sec | 12:17 |
| Riddell | don't give it to me, add it yourself! | 12:17 |
| Riddell | look around the you just downloaded and I'll help you add it | 12:18 |
| isemenov_away | oh sure, I mean, it will be ready in a sec | 12:18 |
| isemenov_away | ok | 12:19 |
| isemenov_away | Riddell: ok, there it is | 12:21 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: now we need to copy that packaging to the source we downloaded and hope it still works (the packaging is intended for 4.8.80 while the source is 4.8.0) | 12:22 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: from the home dir go into kde-baseapps-4.8.3 | 12:22 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: that apt-get source downloads it and applies the current packaging and patches | 12:23 |
| Riddell | so remove those old patches with quilt pop -a | 12:23 |
| isemenov_away | Riddell: why aren't they required any more? | 12:24 |
| isemenov_away | ok, done | 12:25 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: because we want to remove the old packaging downloaded with the 4.8.3 source and replace it with the newer packaging we got out of bzr | 12:25 |
| Riddell | this might break as I say since they're intended for different kde-baseapps versions | 12:25 |
| Riddell | remove the debian/ directory | 12:25 |
| isemenov_away | done | 12:26 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: and copy in the one from bzr in ~/kde-baseapps | 12:26 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: see if the patches apply with quilt push -a | 12:27 |
| isemenov_away | ok | 12:27 |
| isemenov_away | one failed | 12:27 |
| Riddell | damn they don't | 12:27 |
| Riddell | ok scrap this idea | 12:27 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: start again | 12:28 |
| Riddell | apt-get source kde-baseapps | 12:28 |
| isemenov_away | ok | 12:28 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: inside there add your patch again in debian/patches | 12:29 |
| isemenov_away | done | 12:31 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: add the filename to debian/patches/series | 12:31 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: on a separate line | 12:31 |
| Riddell | you missed the new line | 12:32 |
| Riddell | no no | 12:32 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: in debian/patches/series | 12:32 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: cd kde-baseapps-4.8.3 | 12:34 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: vi debian/patches/series | 12:34 |
| isemenov_away | Riddell: done I think | 12:35 |
| isemenov_away | I've messed up the name first, then got it correct | 12:36 |
| Riddell | ok sorted | 12:36 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: now to see if it applies | 12:36 |
| Riddell | quilt push | 12:36 |
| isemenov_away | ok | 12:36 |
| Riddell | yay | 12:36 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: now add a changelog entry | 12:36 |
| Riddell | dch -i | 12:36 |
| Riddell | and put in a human readable line to say added folderview-debug-scrollbar.diff to do foo | 12:37 |
| isemenov_away | just sec need to re-check the patch | 12:37 |
| isemenov_away | the descrition must be wrong.. let's see | 12:37 |
| isemenov_away | ok it's fine | 12:38 |
| isemenov_away | now ets' add a description | 12:38 |
| Riddell | groovy | 12:38 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: mind and include the patch filename so we can grep for it later | 12:40 |
| isemenov_away | Riddell: oh its not vim.. how do I quit this dch? | 12:40 |
| Riddell | emacs :) | 12:41 |
| isemenov_away | .. | 12:41 |
| Riddell | just edit debian/changelog manually now | 12:41 |
| isemenov_away | combo is? | 12:41 |
| Riddell | I quit it | 12:41 |
| isemenov_away | yes, how? | 12:41 |
| Riddell | control-x control-c | 12:42 |
| isemenov_away | ok | 12:42 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: nah quit that | 12:44 |
| Riddell | control-x control-c | 12:44 |
| Riddell | the template has already been added | 12:44 |
| Riddell | so just edit it manually with vi or whatever you prefer | 12:44 |
| isemenov_away | template.. whaere's that | 12:47 |
| Riddell | isemenov_away: debian/changelog | 12:47 |
| Riddell | that's the file we're editing | 12:48 |
| Riddell | dch -i just adds a handy template to the top of it | 12:48 |
| isemenov_away | ok | 12:48 |
| Riddell | add the filename | 12:49 |
| Riddell | fix the name and e-mail | 12:49 |
| Riddell | change the version number to 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu0.1isemenov1 | 12:50 |
| isemenov_away | ok | 12:50 |
| Riddell | and change the distro release back to precise from quantal | 12:50 |
| Riddell | groovy | 12:51 |
| isemenov_away | Riddell: ok, added | 12:51 |
| Riddell | save that | 12:51 |
| isemenov_away | how do I save the file? | 12:51 |
| Riddell | umm dunno, I don't use vi | 12:51 |
| isemenov_away | ah it's vim? ok thank you :) | 12:52 |
| isemenov_away | did you change it to vim for me? | 12:52 |
| Riddell | no you did | 12:52 |
| Riddell | you ran vi debian/changelog | 12:52 |
| isemenov_away | oh.. sorry.. I'm a bit tired yoday, lagging a bit | 12:52 |
| isemenov_away | right I did that myself | 12:52 |
| Riddell | so now you are usually best advised to run a test compile | 12:53 |
| Riddell | make sure it all still works and makes .deb binary packages | 12:53 |
| Riddell | that'll take some time to compile I guess | 12:53 |
| Riddell | but not so long now that kdebase is split up | 12:53 |
| Riddell | debuild is the command to start it | 12:53 |
| Riddell | and it'll probably complain about some missing build dependencies | 12:53 |
| isemenov_away | Riddell: see the error in the shell | 12:54 |
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| Riddell | isemenov: yeah it's saying it needs a bunch of other packages to get it compiles | 12:55 |
| Riddell | there's a handy command that should help | 12:55 |
| Riddell | sudo /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends | 12:55 |
| Riddell | "Unmet build dependencies:" is the main line of interest there | 12:55 |
| isemenov | oh right | 12:55 |
| isemenov | just sec | 12:56 |
| Riddell | isemenov: groovy | 12:58 |
| Riddell | try a debuild again | 12:58 |
| Riddell | isemenov: that'll probably take a while, this is a cheap ec2 machine so not very fast | 13:01 |
| Riddell | isemenov: when it's done we need to check for new files (does your patch add any?) and that it still installs | 13:01 |
| isemenov | Riddell: nice, I need some 15 min to have lunch | 13:02 |
| Riddell | eat well | 13:03 |
| isemenov | Riddell: it dos not add new installation files, though when plasma-deskoi runs, it will create a file in ~/.kde.share | 13:03 |
| isemenov | ty :) | 13:03 |
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| Riddell | isemenov_away: it's done compiling, now it needs to build the .deb binary packages which also takes a few minutes | 13:29 |
| isemenov_away | Riddell: nice | 13:32 |
| isemenov_away | are those messages errors or warnings? | 13:32 |
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| Riddell | dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: Can't extract name and version from library name `libkdeinit4_kfmclient.so' | 13:33 |
| Riddell | just warnings | 13:33 |
| Riddell | it is trying to get the binary symbols out of libraries which can be used for binary compatibility changes | 13:33 |
| Riddell | but that doesn't matter for kdeinit stubs | 13:33 |
| Riddell | shouldn't be long now | 13:34 |
| Riddell | isemenov: awooga | 13:39 |
| Riddell | that succeeded, it's just saying it can't do the digital signature because it doesn't have your gpg key | 13:39 |
| isemenov | Riddell: just sec, I'll be back | 13:40 |
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| Riddell | isemenov: so to summarise so far, we downloaded the source package from precise | 13:41 |
| Riddell | we added a patch and used quilt to apply it | 13:41 |
| Riddell | we added a changelog entry to debian/changelog | 13:41 |
| Riddell | and built the package | 13:41 |
| Riddell | we should now have lots of .deb binary packages in ~ | 13:41 |
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| isemenov | Riddell: o I'm back | 13:51 |
| Riddell | isemenov: you can look into a .deb binary package with lesspipe | 13:51 |
| isemenov | so, this has all been done with your pre-setup machine | 13:51 |
| isemenov | nice | 13:52 |
| Riddell | it's just an ubuntu box like any other running 12.04 (precise) | 13:52 |
| Riddell | it's compiled against kdelibs from 12.04 so those package will only install with 12.04 | 13:52 |
| Riddell | isemenov: cd debian so we can take a look around | 13:52 |
| isemenov | Riddell: so we dont need chroot or anything like that? | 13:53 |
| isemenov | the guide I've seen at the ubunti packaging page included that - what you've been doing is a lot simpler than that | 13:53 |
| Riddell | isemenov: you don't /need/ a chroot but then it'll compile against what your main system is | 13:53 |
| Riddell | if your main system is what you want to compile against and you don't mind installing test packages on it that's fine | 13:53 |
| isemenov | Riddell: or, to be exact, against my configured environment | 13:53 |
| Riddell | a chroot is one way to work around that | 13:54 |
| Riddell | using an ec2 machine like this is another | 13:54 |
| isemenov | because if I have the full kde source tree here, and run KDE with a custom ~/.bashrc to use the local KDE installation | 13:54 |
| isemenov | that should be enough I guess | 13:54 |
| isemenov | just switch to KDE/4.8 in all the directories and build | 13:55 |
| Riddell | isemenov: .deb packages can only install into /usr | 13:55 |
| Riddell | unless you do a lot of fiddling | 13:55 |
| isemenov | Riddell: correct | 13:56 |
| isemenov | but can I *build( them in my environent? | 13:56 |
| Riddell | yep | 13:56 |
| Riddell | but to test them you'd need to install them | 13:56 |
| isemenov | then I will install tehm onto the main system, and log into the main user, running from / | 13:56 |
| Riddell | which is into /usr | 13:56 |
| Riddell | yes | 13:56 |
| Riddell | I do that a lot but it's a slight risk if you install say a faulty kdelibs | 13:56 |
| isemenov | well.. then I can use a vm | 13:57 |
| Riddell | that's another way yes | 13:57 |
| Riddell | isemenov: so you could scp that plasma folderview .deb to a local system and install it and test it, assuming you have a system with kubuntu 12.04 on it | 13:57 |
| Riddell | there's a few things we can do on this ec2 machine to test it's in good order | 13:58 |
| Riddell | we can also build the source packge and upload it to a PPA (which needs gpg signing and a PPA to put it into) | 13:58 |
| isemenov | ok, could you elaborate on the PPA way one please | 13:59 |
| isemenov | *way please | 13:59 |
| isemenov | I'll have to do that soon | 13:59 |
| Riddell | isemenov: do you know what a PPA is? | 13:59 |
| isemenov | well it's a package repository that you can request at launchpad | 14:00 |
| isemenov | and they will keep it running for you, AFAIU | 14:00 |
| Riddell | yep, we could put it into mine | 14:01 |
| isemenov | I think I had created one long time ago | 14:01 |
| Riddell | there's none on https://launchpad.net/~ragnarokk91 | 14:01 |
| Riddell | we could also put it into https://launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+archive/lab | 14:02 |
| isemenov | now to run a PPA, I need a gpg signature set up. correct? | 14:02 |
| Riddell | the source package needs signed before being uploaded yes | 14:03 |
| Riddell | you're not currently in the cyberspace team | 14:03 |
| Riddell | I can add you to it if you think you can sign the package yourself | 14:04 |
| isemenov | well just show me how to do that | 14:04 |
| Riddell | do you have a gpg key? | 14:05 |
| isemenov | do I need any permissions or approval? | 14:05 |
| isemenov | I think I don't | 14:05 |
| isemenov | at least I have not done any gpg set up on my machine | 14:05 |
| Riddell | mm, I think I last did it a decade ago | 14:05 |
| Riddell | isemenov: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey | 14:06 |
| Riddell | see "Using GPG to manage OpenPGP keys" | 14:06 |
| isemenov | ok | 14:08 |
| === dantti_away is now known as dantti_laptop | ||
| afiestas | mmm codec install in Amarok | 14:14 |
| afiestas | doesn't seem to work on 12.04 | 14:14 |
| afiestas | it always says "MPEG-blabalbal you need codecs" I click on search it seems to install something | 14:14 |
| afiestas | then I try to reproduce, and I'm asked again | 14:14 |
| afiestas | I haven't updated kubuntu, so maybe repos are outdated | 14:15 |
| * afiestas tries rebooting | 14:15 | |
| afiestas | worked after reboot | 14:20 |
| Ezim | afiestas, thats windows problem solving or hoping :). | 14:20 |
| afiestas | windows problem? | 14:21 |
| Ezim | afiestas, yes... rebooting :) | 14:21 |
| agateau | Riddell: hey, I am trying to fix an FTBFS for massif-visualizer on quantal arm: I have the fix, but last time I tried to build it in my cowbuilder arm, qmake segfaulted :/ | 14:21 |
| agateau | Riddell: should I just get the fix in and cross fingers? :) (it's your usual qreal vs double bug) | 14:21 |
| Riddell | agateau: quite possibly, it's not well tested | 14:23 |
| Riddell | agateau: I can't think of any other way | 14:24 |
| Riddell | I don't know what the cowbuilder is | 14:24 |
| Riddell | you could also see if ScottK has arm machines to log into | 14:24 |
| agateau | Riddell: it's like pbuilder, but does copy-on-write | 14:24 |
| agateau | Riddell: related to that, I created a packaging bzr branch for massif-visualizer: https://code.launchpad.net/~agateau/+junk/massif-visualizer+trunk . how do I turn it into the official packaging branch? | 14:25 |
| Riddell | by using it :) | 14:27 |
| Riddell | add this to debian/control | 14:27 |
| Riddell | Vcs-Browser: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kwallet | 14:27 |
| Riddell | Vcs-Bzr: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kwallet | 14:27 |
| Riddell | or the equivalent | 14:27 |
| Riddell | keeping it under +junk it's very professional looking :) | 14:28 |
| Riddell | you could have it under the kubuntu-packaging project if you think that's a useful place for it | 14:28 |
| Riddell | you could find a team to put it under if you want to have more people be able to commit to it, ~kubuntu-packagers (but I don't think you're in that) or ~kubuntu-members or ~cyberspace or whatever | 14:29 |
| agateau | Riddell: kubuntu-packaging looks appropriate indeed | 14:31 |
| Riddell | are you a member? | 14:31 |
| agateau | not sure | 14:31 |
| * agateau checks | 14:31 | |
| Riddell | oh yes all kubuntu-members are | 14:31 |
| agateau | yup | 14:31 |
| Riddell | and pick a suitable project too | 14:32 |
| agateau | so I should push it to lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/massif-visualizer? | 14:32 |
| Riddell | if it a kubuntu package? | 14:32 |
| agateau | yes, it's the package I created during my rotation in desktop team last cycle | 14:32 |
| agateau | it's in precise | 14:32 |
| Riddell | yeah but is it part of KDE? | 14:32 |
| agateau | massif-visualizer is a kde frontend to massif | 14:33 |
| Riddell | ok go for it then | 14:33 |
| agateau | ok | 14:33 |
| starbuck1 | whats massif? :) | 14:41 |
| agateau | starbuck1: a valgrind tool to monitor memory usage | 14:41 |
| starbuck1 | who/what is valgrind? | 14:43 |
| starbuck1 | http://valgrind.org/ | 14:43 |
| starbuck1 | ? | 14:43 |
| agateau | starbuck1: that's it | 14:43 |
| ScottK | arm boxes are up. | 14:48 |
| agateau | ScottK: cool, how can I test a package there? | 14:50 |
| ScottK | Give me a .dsc and I'll try to build it is simplest, but I will only be here on and off today. | 14:50 |
| Daviey | ScottK: Are the arm boxes going to be exposed to other MOTU's at some point? | 14:51 |
| ScottK | We have some for Kubuntu dev's and some for MOTU, but the MOTU boxes are dead at the moment. | 14:52 |
| ScottK | I need to get them fixed. | 14:52 |
| agateau | ScottK: ok, otherwise I just put the package in a bzr branch if it's simpler | 14:53 |
| ScottK | Grabbing a .dsc is easier for me, just not right at the moment. | 14:54 |
| Riddell | didrocks: I see you did bug 357235, can you point me to some code that gets ssh keys? | 14:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 357235 in Launchpad itself "A user's ssh keys are not currently available throug the APIs" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/357235 | 14:56 |
| Riddell | didrocks: cos I can't work out how to do it from launchpadlib | 14:57 |
| agateau | ScottK: ok, sent to you by email | 14:58 |
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| agateau | debfx: hi, fyi: just released plasma-widget-menubar 0.1.18, which contains the fix for your crash-at-startup bug | 15:23 |
| didrocks | Riddell: sure, one sec :) | 15:40 |
| didrocks | launchpad.me.gpg_keys is a collection of gpg keys | 15:43 |
| didrocks | I think I did the same for ssh keys, (I only used the gpg key in quickly, but exposed both IIRC) | 15:44 |
| didrocks | Riddell: yep, it's the same with ssh keys: https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/devel.html#ssh_key launchpad.me.ssh_keys is what you look for | 15:45 |
| ScottK | agateau: Need to set up the box to build for quantal first, so it'll be a bit. | 15:55 |
| agateau | ScottK: sure, no problem | 15:55 |
| debfx | agateau: my bug? I've never used the global menubar | 16:12 |
| agateau | debfx: mmm | 16:13 |
| agateau | debfx: I must have mixed user names | 16:13 |
| agateau | ok, now with the correct nickname, | 16:21 |
| agateau | Tm_T: hi, fyi: just released plasma-widget-menubar 0.1.18, which contains the fix for your crash-at-startup bug | 16:21 |
| * Darkwing sighs | 16:22 | |
| Darkwing | why is the open source world so full of consipiricy people?? | 16:22 |
| agateau | sorry debfx, I shouldn't have trusted my memory :) | 16:22 |
| agateau | s/open source// | 16:22 |
| kubotu | agateau: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" | 16:22 |
| Darkwing | Every time I push a community update all I get is "How does Blue Systems make money and why are they helping" | 16:23 |
| jussi | its a good question... :D | 16:23 |
| Darkwing | Yeah but, this is too far... http://www.wonderly.com/2012/05/kubuntu-updates/#comment-220 | 16:24 |
| jussi | dude, what is that guy on? | 16:25 |
| * Darkwing wants to start handing out tin-foil hats | 16:25 | |
| BluesKaj | Huh? | 16:36 |
| apachelogger | I think the CIA is involved | 16:50 |
| jussi | apachelogger: you say that everytime... | 16:57 |
| BluesKaj | apachelogger, as AmerCIA :) | 17:11 |
| ScottK | agateau: Build is started. | 17:11 |
| * Mamarok wonders why she is the only one running or Kubuntu council :( | 18:45 | |
| Mamarok | could we give that another announcement, please? | 18:45 |
| Mamarok | deadline is next weekend already | 18:45 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: me too! | 18:50 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: blog it? | 18:50 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: heya, welcome back :) | 18:50 |
| Mamarok | I am about to :) | 18:50 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: your blog is on planet ubuntu right? | 18:52 |
| Mamarok | it is, yes | 18:57 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: can I reuse your canoe pic you used for the 9.10 announcement? Caption: We Need You! | 19:10 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: sure | 19:11 |
| Mamarok | could you resend it? It's not on your people.coanonical.com space anymore ;) | 19:12 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: do you know the filename | 19:12 |
| Riddell | ? | 19:12 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| Mamarok | canoe.jpg it was | 19:13 |
| yofel | Riddell's back \o/ | 19:13 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/canoe.jpg | 19:13 |
| * yofel gives Darkwing a hug - good post IMO | 19:13 | |
| Riddell | hi yofel | 19:13 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: thanks a lot :) | 19:13 |
| yofel | er, yours, not #220 | 19:14 |
| * Mamarok could need some support: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MyriamSchweingruber | 19:29 | |
| highvoltage | what are you applying for, Mamarok? | 19:30 |
| Mamarok | highvoltage: well, the Kubuntu Council :) | 19:33 |
| highvoltage | aah | 19:33 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: blogged: http://blogs.fsfe.org/myriam/archives/551 | 19:33 |
| genii-around | If there's 12 members in the council what number is considered quorum? | 19:37 |
| genii-around | Ah, I need more coffee. | 19:40 |
| shadeslayer | Darkwing: the post still doesn't answer some of the questions raised by the comments in your blog :P | 19:42 |
| shadeslayer | though something is better than nothing :) | 19:42 |
| Mamarok | shadeslayer: seen my comment? | 19:42 |
| yofel | oh, 4.8.4 uploaded | 19:42 |
| yofel | I'll update the pad if anyone wants to work on it | 19:42 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: the one about you running for KC? | 19:43 |
| Mamarok | no, on drakwings blog | 19:43 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 19:43 |
| shadeslayer | I don't see your comment here : http://www.wonderly.com/2012/05/kubuntu-community-update/#comments | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: http://dot.kde.org/2012/05/31/meet-blue-systems%E2%80%94akademy-2012-platinum-sponsor doesn't help as well :P | 19:45 |
| Mamarok | funny, I am sure I left a comment | 19:45 |
| shadeslayer | Maybe it triggered the spam filter or sth | 19:47 |
| Mamarok | ah, wait, wrong blog entry, my comment is on the previous blog entry | 19:48 |
| shadeslayer | checking | 19:48 |
| Mamarok | "What makes you think the government is involved? Why not think of a philanthropist? Shuttleworth is not the only wealthy individual interested in Free Software out there " | 19:48 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 19:48 |
| Mamarok | AFAIK Clemens is from a very wealthy family from the food business in Germany | 19:48 |
| jtechidna | From what I've heard, he made his fortunes managing a meat packaging facility | 19:49 |
| shadeslayer | Best. Conspiracy. Theory. Ever | 19:49 |
| Mamarok | one of the big meat producing factories | 19:49 |
| Mamarok | shadeslayer: and no, the family background is not a conspiracy :) | 19:50 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: nah, I was talking about Blue Systems being a shell company etc | 19:50 |
| jtechidna | they will put subliminal messages in the ksplash theme so that everybody will buy their hotdogs :P | 19:50 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 19:50 |
| Mamarok | ah, you mean the "government is behind it" one? Yeah, good laugh | 19:50 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 19:51 |
| jtechidna | then once the world is dependent on Germany's hotdogs | 19:51 |
| jtechidna | they will be cut off and at Germany's mercy! | 19:51 |
| shadeslayer | one of the more hilarious theories behind Blue Systems though :P | 19:51 |
| shadeslayer | also, I'm woefully ignorant of about 80% of the Ubuntu community :( | 19:52 |
| shadeslayer | alright, back to studies, cya | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | wendar: fwiw you can now use nvflash with SBKv2 devices, see androidroot.mobi :D | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | There's also a modified OLife image that you can use to properly flash ubuntu and dual boot and stuff | 19:54 |
| === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Now With Extra Gray | Council Nominations Open - See http://goo.gl/zUghQ | Bug hunting: http://ur1.ca/8kam4 | Packaging TODO (4.8.80/4.8.4): http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | ||
| genii-around | Is there a way to get Kubuntu to use apport instead of kcrash ? | 20:04 |
| yofel | there's some env var to disable drkonqi | 20:04 |
| yofel | !ninjas | 20:05 |
| ubottu | Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel | 20:05 |
| yofel | I've updated the pad for 4.8.4 for those that want to work on it, and added both calligra updates too | 20:05 |
| yofel | genii-around: one of these: http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Environment_Variables#Troubleshooting_and_Debugging | 20:06 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: which tablet do you have again? | 20:09 |
| genii-around | yofel: Thanks | 20:11 |
| Mamarok | can somebody please close bug 110502? It is totally outdated and about a version we don't ship nor support anymore since quite some time | 20:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 110502 in amarok (Ubuntu) ""Run Script Manager" button in lyrics tab not working" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110502 | 20:25 |
| === smarter__ is now known as smarter | ||
| shadeslayer | yofel: ASUS Transformer ( TF101 is the model name ) | 20:33 |
| Mamarok | bug 369970 should be closed as Wont Fix, we don not support Amarok 1.x anymore since 10.2009... | 21:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 369970 in amarok (Ubuntu) "Amarok does not understand audio file if it does not have audio filename extension" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/369970 | 21:02 |
| Mamarok | and even longer so upstream. | 21:02 |
| Mamarok | who has rights enough to close these two as wont fix? | 21:03 |
| * micahg wonders why it didn't expire | 21:04 | |
| micahg | oh, right, not 2 months yet | 21:04 |
| Mamarok | well, somebody commented on it with a totally unrelated comment | 21:05 |
| micahg | Mamarok: no, they tested it and said it was likely fixed :) | 21:05 |
| Mamarok | which is totally unrelated, they didn't test version 1.4.10 which was the last of the 1.x series. Amarok 2.x has a different codebase, that bug never was in Amarok 2.x | 21:07 |
| Mamarok | so that test is useless | 21:07 |
| micahg | umm, for the bugsquad person triaging the bug, the fact that the bug never existed in 2.x was unknown | 21:07 |
| micahg | so, that person did the right thing | 21:08 |
| Mamarok | well, that is one more reasonto not have those bugs in launchpad anymore | 21:08 |
| Mamarok | micahg: asking doesn't hurt, even for triagers | 21:08 |
| micahg | well, general Kubuntu policy AIUI is to not have KDE bugs in LP unless they are integration bugs | 21:08 |
| Mamarok | one more reason to have this closed, especially since this bug is obsolete since more than 2 years :) | 21:09 |
| micahg | Mamarok: so, I'd suggest marking it invalid as you say the 2.x code base was never affected (and that's all we have in lucid+) | 21:10 |
| Mamarok | OK, will do | 21:10 |
| micahg | hardy is the only release available with 1.4 and it's not supported on the desktop anymore anyways | 21:10 |
| Mamarok | OK, done for both | 21:11 |
| Mamarok | so what with the reports that shouldn't be in launchpad anymore like bug 894496, how can I remove the amarok (Ubuntu) reference? the upstream bug is reference already | 21:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 894496 in banshee (Ubuntu) "Add support for Google Music" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/894496 | 21:17 |
| micahg | Mamarok: you need bug control permissions to do that I think | 21:19 |
| Mamarok | I marked it as invalid with a comment | 21:19 |
| micahg | and that person has been asked not to make frankenbugs like that | 21:20 |
| micahg | no, I meant to remove the task | 21:20 |
| * micahg does that | 21:20 | |
| Mamarok | ah, right, these multi-package bugs are annoying indeed | 21:21 |
| micahg | done | 21:21 |
| * apachelogger thought he'd never get out of uni today -.- | 22:09 | |
| apachelogger | Ravi K Sharma is no kubuntu member FWIW | 22:20 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: I know, that's why I said "all Kubuntu members" | 22:25 |
| apachelogger | kk ^^ | 22:26 |
| Mamarok | btw: Riddell, ScottK: I hope you run again, don't you | 22:28 |
| apachelogger | they already renominated | 22:29 |
| * Mamarok wonders what became of neversfelde, haven't seen him in a while | 22:29 | |
| apachelogger | somewhere up the thread I think | 22:29 |
| Mamarok | renominated how? must have missed then when my mail resend went berserk | 22:31 |
| apachelogger | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-May/006101.html | 22:32 |
| apachelogger | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-May/006096.html | 22:33 |
| Mamarok | yep, that never ended in my inbox though, I wonder what went wrong there | 22:33 |
| ScottK | agateau: It built. | 23:08 |
| * ScottK breaks bits of the CoC all over Darkwing's blog. | 23:14 | |
| apachelogger | hope you are proud of yourself | 23:16 |
| * apachelogger waves fist | 23:16 | |
| benonsoftware | hi | 23:37 |
| Riddell | hi benonsoftware | 23:49 |
| * micahg supports ScottK's comment :) | 23:53 | |
| micahg | FWIW of cource | 23:53 |
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