[00:00] <benonsoftware> rebuhjc: Yes?
[00:00] <rebuhjc> my usb HD is not working... solution?
[00:01] <JoseeAntonioR> rebuhjc: is it encrypted?
[00:01] <rebuhjc> nope
[00:01] <JoseeAntonioR> rebuhjc: does it say Windows/Mac only in the box?
[00:01] <rebuhjc> im on 8.04.... software problem?
[00:02] <rebuhjc> says it supports linux too
[00:02] <JoseeAntonioR> rebuhjc: yes, there are lots of.
[00:02] <JoseeAntonioR> rebuhjc: it has reached end of life, and you need to upgrade, as it's not a supported version anymore.
[00:02] <rebuhjc> ok will updating to 12.04 fix?
[00:02] <benonsoftware> rebuhjc: I would upgrade Ubuntu as 8..04 is end of life
[00:03] <benonsoftware> rebuhjc: it might help fix the problem
[00:03] <JoseeAntonioR> rebuhjc: yes, but I would backup and do a clean install.
[00:03] <rebuhjc> ok is there a way to get past the software update to 10.04 and go straight to 12
[00:03] <Unit193> Not in a good way, no.
[00:04] <benonsoftware> rebuhjc: I would backup your data and do a clean install of 12.04
[00:05] <rebuhjc> ok... would it be better to go get the stable version? i already have beta 2 downloaded
[00:05] <Unit193> Yes, yes it would.  You can use rsync or zsync to just download the changed bits though.
[00:06] <rebuhjc> cool!! thanks you guys!
[00:06] <rebuhjc> wait
[00:06] <rebuhjc> how do you do a backup... lol NOOB
[00:06] <Unit193> !backup
[00:06] <ubot2`> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[00:06] <Unit193> \o/
[00:07] <rebuhjc> thanks
[04:34] <Spooky> Hi, anyone here?
[04:41] <philipballew_> Spooky, yes
[04:42] <Spooky> hey. I'm new to ubuntu. trying to learn how to use irc a little bit.
[04:42] <philipballew_> welcome abord! Hows it going with Ubuntu
[04:43] <peterp24> hi every one
[04:43] <Spooky> do you know a place that tells the different commands? like i've learned theres command /msg and /query
[04:43] <Spooky> Ubuntu is great! much better than windows. Has some negatives but nothing is perfect.
[04:43] <Unit193> Spooky: /msg alis help list    to find alist of channels.
[04:43] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat  and   http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist  also
[04:44] <Spooky> can I send one of you guys a PM to see how it works? what is the difference between /msg and /query?
[04:45] <benonsoftware> Spooky: Sure
[04:47] <Unit193> Spooky: /query will just open the window, /msg works like  /msg benonsoftware Hello!   (While /query benonsoftware    is how that works)
[04:48] <Spooky> unit193: so /query doesn't actually send any messages?
[04:48] <Unit193> It'll open the window so you can send it, /msg opens the window and sends it.
[04:49] <Spooky> oh. I get it. thax!
[04:49] <Unit193> May be better for when you are identifing to nickserv.
[04:52] <Spooky> hehe. accidentally closed the client and i thought I was just closing an extra window :* :)
[04:53] <Unit193> Heh, I figured. :P
[04:55] <Spooky> how you guys liking the new unity in 12.04
[04:55] <Unit193> I'm actually using either Xfce, or LXDE, so philipballew_ should answer.
[04:56]  * philipballew_ is back!
[04:56] <philipballew_> well Spooky I ike it alot. What do you think?
[04:56] <philipballew_> s/alot/ a lot
[04:56] <Spooky> whit irc client u use unit193? im on xchat like you guessed. but Im interested in discovering which client right for me
[04:57] <Unit193> I use irssi, and quite like it.
[04:57] <Spooky> to be honest, I like it. It saves a lot of space. and I really like how I can maximize window and the titlebar goes into the panel.
[04:57] <Spooky> is it in repos for download?
[04:57] <Spooky> irssi
[04:57] <Unit193> !info irssi
[04:57] <philipballew_> apt-get install irsse
[04:57] <philipballew_> *irssi
[04:57] <Unit193> ubot2`: info irssi
[04:57] <ubot2`> Unit193: irssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.15-1ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 1067 kB, installed size 2876 kB
[04:58] <Spooky> philip: u use irssi too?
[04:58]  * benonsoftware uses WeeChat
[04:58]  * philipballew_ uses xchat
[04:58] <Spooky> oh terminal based. wow. is it hard? Ive been studying gpg though in terminal. I use gpg in terminal exclusive.
[04:58] <benonsoftware> !info weechat
[04:59] <benonsoftware> !info weechat-curses
[04:59] <Spooky> !info xchat
[04:59] <Unit193> It's using what's called "ncurses", and is a text gui.
[04:59] <philipballew_> nothing is hard after lots of use for the most part. I would say irssi has a bigger learning curve.
[04:59] <Unit193> benonsoftware: call it by it's nick. ubot2`: info weechat-curses   just like that.
[05:00] <benonsoftware> ubot2`: info weechat-curses
[05:00] <ubot2`> benonsoftware: weechat-curses (source: weechat): Fast, light and extensible chat client - console client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.2-1 (maverick), package size 208 kB, installed size 552 kB
[05:00] <benonsoftware> ohhh
[05:01] <Spooky> are there keyboard shortcuts for switching between the irc tabs? so i don't have to use mouse?
[05:01] <Unit193> For irssi? Yep.
[05:01] <philipballew_> the default is Epiphany that replaced Pidgin right?
[05:01] <Unit193> Nither are irc clients.
[05:02] <Spooky> im on xchat now. anyone know shortcuts for that?
[05:02] <philipballew_> I can help there
[05:02] <philipballew_> what kinda shortcuts?
[05:02] <philipballew_> oh, switching between tabs
[05:03] <Spooky> to move bettwen tabs. like I have this chat and a private chat with unit. can i move bettween the tabs with shortcut no mouse
[05:03] <philipballew_> crtl t adds a new one. and switching is...
[05:04] <Spooky> Ctrl+Tab i think
[05:04] <philipballew_> http://xchatdata.net/Using/KeyboardShortcuts
[05:04] <Spooky> alt+# like firefox in ubuntu
[05:04] <Spooky> kewl
[05:05] <philipballew_> there is a complete list I believe
[05:05] <philipballew_> how long have you been using ubuntu?
[05:05] <Spooky> do you know wher eI can find more /commands for xchat?
[05:05] <Spooky> is there liek a page that tells the different commands?
[05:06] <Unit193> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi http://niklas.laxstrom.name/page/eng/irssi those will help loads.
[05:06] <Spooky> hi bodhi, im reading your irc page right now :P
[05:07] <Spooky> unit: kewl thanks
[05:07] <Unit193> http://toxin.jottit.com/ that will help as well, easy way to complete a persons name is to hit tab ben<tab>
[05:08] <Spooky> why do u prefer commandline for irc? any specific reasons
[05:09] <Unit193> It's far better. ;)
[05:09] <Unit193> It's just how I am.
[05:10] <Spooky> ill have to try it. after using BASH, its just pitiful seeing that windows cmd thing. It's too bad windows is so dominant.
[05:10] <Spooky> if Linux had more commercial support, driver support would be better.
[05:11] <aeoril> Snicksie, o/
[05:19] <Unit193> Spooky: You can buy it from Canonical and RedHat,  RedHat is in many server locations, and more servers run Linux than Windows.
[05:20] <Spooky> Unit193, what can i buy?
[05:21] <Spooky> ubot2`: xchat
[05:21] <ubot2`> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[05:21] <Spooky> ubot2`: !info xchat
[05:21] <Unit193> Commercial support, related to your last comment.
[05:22] <Spooky> the drivers? say I have a "glitch" I can't solve. hwo much would it cost. I saw some prices and it was well over a $100
[05:22] <Spooky> Is this accurate? I'll start saving.
[05:22] <Unit193> Easier to check friendly.ubuntu.com and call it over.
[05:22] <Spooky> I got a problem I havent been able to solve since release
[05:24] <Spooky> Unit193: did not know of friendly site. thx!
[05:24] <Unit193> That, google, and asking a few people I know is the easy way to see if it's compatible.
[05:25] <Unit193> System76 sells computers with Ubuntu preinstalled.
[05:29] <Spooky> yes, im interested in system76
[05:29] <Spooky> but they dont have some things. like I asked them
[05:29] <Spooky> no matte screen. no port disabling in BIOS.
[05:30] <Spooky> I wish I was millionair/billionaire. I would start a ubuntu hardware company and make laptops and desktops with hardware I want
[11:04] <al___> hi
[13:13] <raubvogel> Am I the only one having problems with security.ubuntu.com? http://pastie.org/private/ysh1ynndo4h9wnuuswcea
[15:02] <c11> hi #ubuntu-beginners
[15:06] <c11> i recently installed ubuntu 12.04-lts on my macbook1,1... now "apport" keeps reminding me of an error or bug because of some "crash" it detected... apparently it seems to be the i915gm graphics adaptor and some DRM issue
[15:06] <holstein> c11: i ended up just running virtualized ubuntu on my macbook or that era
[15:07] <holstein> too many deal breakers...
[15:07] <c11> 3D accelleration works allright: "xdriinfo prints out: i915"
[15:07] <holstein> i ran it vitualized, and just got rid of that machine first chance i had
[15:10] <c11> holstein i dont want to run MacOSX at all, and i dont want to get rid of this box. its working too good to just throw it away.
[15:13] <holstein> c11: i didnt throw mine away.. nor am i suggesting you do what i did.. im just letting you know what i did with that same hardware
[15:14] <Unit193> There should be an option to ignore errors "like these", if that's what you're looking for.
[15:14] <holstein> yeah... i would just run it if its working OK otherwise
[15:17] <holstein> isnt there a different iso now? for apple machines?
[15:17] <holstein> c11: are you using that?
[15:19] <c11> unit193, where is that? apport only leaves me two options: "abort" "continue"
[15:19] <c11> holstein no i used the desktop 32bit iso.
[15:19] <Unit193> Odd, it keeps "reminding" me of one too, and I have the option.
[15:22] <c11> i know that to do! im going do uninstall apport
[15:25] <c11> unit193 i downloaded the 12.04 iso last week, maybe there were changes in the meantime, or the updatemanager didnt update this piece of software?
[15:25] <c11> but i think uninstalling apport will do the trick.
[15:25] <holstein> c11: just check for and apply updates
[15:29] <holstein> c11: the mac images i was thinking of are for 64bit machines...
[15:31] <c11> holstein i'll have a look at the available images.
[15:34] <c11> holstein quoting "http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04": PC (Intel x86) desktop CD
[15:34] <c11> For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if you are at all unsure.
[15:35] <holstein> c11: the images i thought of were not for your machine
[15:35] <c11> holstein link
[15:36] <holstein> 64-bit Mac (AMD64) desktop CD
[15:36] <holstein> Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead. This image is adjusted to work properly on Mac systems.
[15:36] <holstein> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[15:36] <c11> holstein thanks man.
[15:36] <holstein> c11: this is also the 12.10 daily build
[15:36] <c11> perfect, this is what i was searching for.
[15:36] <holstein> c11: its 64bit.. and quite in the "testing" phase... i would just try it live
[15:37] <holstein> from what i remember, that machine is 32bit only
[15:37] <c11> holstein naw man... its a dualcore CPU
[15:38] <holstein> c11: yup.. a dual core 32bit proc from what i remember
[15:38] <holstein> wont hurt to burn a 64bit live iso and try it though
[15:39] <c11> http://ark.intel.com/products/35100/Intel-Celeron-Processor-E1500-(512K-Cache-2_20-GHz-800-MHz-FSB)
[15:42] <holstein> c11: let me know how it goes.. i seem to remember reading it was 64, and finding it was 32... but its been a few years since i had that hardware in front of me.. and like i said, it wont hurt to try a 64bit iso
[15:42] <holstein> maybe i just decided 64bit wasnt worth the hassle
[15:43] <c11> holstein yes thats not easy to figure, since there only are a few apps really taking advantage of the additionale address-space
[15:43] <holstein> c11: if the 64bit iso boots.. its 64bit
[15:47] <c11> no torrent alternative, so i only get about 10mbit.... this will take a while.
[15:51] <c1one> d'oh i switched from wireless to wired and forgot about the ip change
[15:51] <c1one> cant ghost c11 because i havent registered it, anyhow download is now 2.5mbyte/s
[15:51] <c1one> 4,3
[16:08] <c11> holstein i tried   Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Alpha amd64+mac, and i got "boot error" on this mac machine, then i inserted the stick into a desktop PC and it booted up the greeting screen, i clicked on "verify DVD" and after a few seconds i got a MD5 error
[16:19] <c11> x32
[16:52] <c11> holstein, you are right the MacBook1,1 does NOT support 64bit
[17:40] <c11> holstein, macbook1,1 has got a intel T2500 http://ark.intel.com/products/27236/Intel-Core-Duo-Processor-T2500-(2M-Cache-2_00-GHz-667-MHz-FSB)
[17:40] <c11> 32bit processor.
[17:40] <c11> so its no wonder it doesnot work with 64bit.
[19:01] <peterp24> hi
[19:02] <dniMretsaM> hi peterp24
[19:02] <peterp24> do you know a detailed guide about how to back up your data inside the /home partition - I have a very messy /home/pts partition
[19:02] <peterp24> hi dniMretsaM
[19:03] <peterp24> how are you
[19:03] <dniMretsaM> peterp24: you could just clone the partition using Clonezilla or something
[19:03] <peterp24> yeah but I would copy including the settings files for a bunch of softwares
[19:04] <peterp24> it is not that I am lazy to do a backup using whatever tool
[19:04] <dniMretsaM> so you don't want to keep those files?
[19:04] <peterp24> for instance, I created a launchpad ago - and I suspect I have some important files (gpg keys??) somewere or so
[19:05] <peterp24> a lot was done on this machine over the last year - including some pranks - that I don't want to carry over the new installation
[19:06] <dniMretsaM> ok, so you basically just want to back up only certain files
[19:06] <peterp24> yeah - I was wondering if I could find a detailed guide somewhere - so I could follow it
[19:06] <yeehi> Hello everybody! I have a question: I want to clearsign a txt file using a key that I specify. What is the command I should enter in the terminal?
[19:07] <peterp24> I don't want to let something important or to walk around with a clonezilla image
[19:07] <dniMretsaM> peterp24: well, the simplest thing to do would probably just be to go through and manually copy the files you need over. there might be a faster way, but I don't know what that would be.
[19:08] <peterp24> yeah - probably - and I could ask for help for a specific issue
[19:09] <dniMretsaM> yeehi: did you try the command I gave you earlier: gpg --default-key <name> --clearsign /path/to/file.txt
[19:09] <peterp24> this is a too generic topic - I know - it is something like: please warn me about some hidden files I might loose and that may be useful later on :(
[19:10] <dniMretsaM> peterp24: the problem with only copying certain files is that there isn't really an easy way to automatically detect what is good and what isn't.
[19:10] <hobgoblin> peterp24: I tend to copy over the few things that I'd not want to lose - bookmarks/email/xchat/etc
[19:10] <dniMretsaM> for example, if, say, you wanted to copy all .ogg files from a directory, you could use GAWK
[19:10] <yeehi> i tried doing that dniMretsaM, but it didn't work: no such file or directory. Maybe I should enter something different instead of <name>
[19:11] <dniMretsaM> yeehi: "<name>" is meant to be replaced with the name of your key
[19:12] <peterp24> me also - but I got involved in some stuff I don't fully understand - and as a result I may have some useful but totally hidden files on my /home dir. So - I guessed that somebody have had this problem before and compiled a guide
[19:12] <dniMretsaM> peterp24: but if you want to copy your .mozilla folder and 20 pictures form this folder and your entire documents folder, that would be very difficult (if not impossible) to automate
[19:13] <peterp24> I know
[19:13] <yeehi> I have tried using the name yeehi and also the key ID number. Am i meant to write it like this: <yeehi> or like this yeehi?
[19:13] <peterp24> I am not asking for bash script or an automated solution
[19:14] <hobgoblin> yeehi: <text> is used as a placeholder so you'd use name
[19:14] <hobgoblin> generally
[19:15] <yeehi> OK, I got a bit of progress!
[19:15] <dniMretsaM> yeehi: you need to use the name of the key. You can get the name of the keys in your keyring with this: gpg --list-keys
[19:16] <dniMretsaM> and you don't use the angle brackets.
[19:16] <yeehi> I used yeehi instead of <yeehi> and that worked - but it says I have to use a passphrase to unlock the secret key, but there is no opportunity for me to enter a passphrase
[19:16] <yeehi> i think i need to embed the passphrase into the command line somehow...
[19:16] <dniMretsaM> peterp24: are you looking info on what files are important?
[19:17] <yeehi> no, i just need to clearsign a txt file
[19:17] <dniMretsaM> yeehi: what is the message it's giving you (pastebin it, please)
[19:17] <dniMretsaM> yeehi: yes, I know that. I was talking to someone else
[19:19] <bobweaver> yeehi,  I am glad to see that you are here On Irc with the rest of use :) And I am also glad that you made that awesome thread :)
[19:19] <yeehi> You need a pasphrase to unlock the secret key for user "yeehi <yeeehi@gmail.com" 2048-bit RSA key ID 66C0B585
[19:20] <yeehi> oh, thank you very much, bobweaver!
[19:20] <yeehi> I am glad you liked the thread - i was curious about IRC
[19:20] <bobweaver> I see that I am very glade that you hade it
[19:21] <bobweaver> you are trying to get cloak ??
[19:21] <peterp24> dniMretsaM - yeah - but first I need to gather myself and put down a list of software I used in the last year
[19:22] <peterp24> I guess the critical files I don't know where they reside are the gnome keyring related file, some ssh stuff I created but never used and the lanchpaud stuff
[19:22] <dniMretsaM> yeehi: you it prompts you for your password. at least it does when I do it.
[19:22] <bobweaver> peterp24,  what are you tring to do with LP ?
[19:23] <peterp24> oh nothing - I created the account an year ago because I wanted to develop something - but eventually I setled for a github account
[19:24] <hobgoblin> peterp24: it is likely that all the personal stuff you need will be hidden files/folders
[19:24] <bobweaver> peterp24, most  ssh stuff  cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub   <for public
[19:25] <bobweaver> that is what you register to LP  pgp/gpg you can get with command
[19:25] <dniMretsaM> yeehi: can you pastebin the output (blank out anything you feel is sensitive, if you wish)
[19:25] <bobweaver> gpg- --list-keys   I think
[19:25] <yeehi> I got it to work - thank you all!
[19:25] <hobgoblin> woot
[19:26] <yeehi> Must log off - being disconnected from internet!
[19:26] <yeehi> Big thanks all!
[19:26] <dniMretsaM> bye yeehi. glad you got it working
[19:26] <bobweaver> sweet yeehi
[19:27] <peterp24> bobweaver - thanks for the tips - found something in /home/pts/.gnupg/pubring.gpg also
[19:27] <bobweaver> :)
[19:27] <bobweaver> peterp24,  what was program that you where making ?
[19:27] <bobweaver> j/w
[19:27] <peterp24> a crappy cad like app
[19:28] <peterp24> 2D stuff only - nothing fancy
[19:28] <bobweaver> that is cool
[19:28] <bobweaver> python ?
[19:28] <peterp24> yup
[19:28] <peterp24> just wanted to test some things
[19:29] <bobweaver> cool
[19:29] <bobweaver> I have to take down some "test" things that I have done on LP also
[19:29] <bobweaver> or get back to work on the
[19:29] <bobweaver> them *