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thumper | mhall119: | 00:16 |
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thumper | mhall119: ping? | 00:16 |
mhall119 | thumper: pong | 00:17 |
thumper | mhall119: hey, just trying to chase down how to get contributors to sign the copyright assignment thingy | 00:17 |
mhall119 | well it's not an assignment anymore, right? It's a broad copyright grant | 00:18 |
thumper | mhall119: I have no idea what it is these days | 00:18 |
thumper | what is it now? | 00:19 |
thumper | and how to they sign / use it? | 00:19 |
mhall119 | hmmm, ubuntu.com appear to be having some drupal issues atm | 00:21 |
mhall119 | thumper: it's up on the website somewhere, unfortunately the site appears to be down | 00:23 |
thumper | :( | 00:23 |
thumper | mhall119: I'm guessing "the website somewhere" could be quite a lot to search through :) | 00:23 |
mhall119 | yeah | 00:24 |
thumper | heh | 00:24 |
* thumper has munchies | 00:24 | |
thumper | time for lunch | 00:24 |
mhall119 | time for dinner | 00:25 |
AnthonyHu | hellow. | 01:59 |
jussi | Hrm, I had a thought - perhaps it could be nice to have the indicator icon highlighted a different colour for different things. ie. for empathy or chat messages, it could be blue, for thunderbird or email, it could be green etc etc | 10:53 |
jussi | also, can someone explain to me why on one laptop the dash covers the whole screen, and the other only part? | 10:56 |
seb128 | jussi, the dash depends of the screen resolution, i.e on netbooks where it would take 90% of the screen it doesn't make sense to not take the screen space | 10:57 |
seb128 | jussi, the color stuff was suggested in the past, there is probably a bug in launchpad about it | 10:57 |
jussi | seb128: thats strange, as one is 1366x768 (fullscreen dash) and the other 1280x800 (partial screen dash) | 10:58 |
seb128 | jussi, you maybe clicked once on the button in the panel? | 10:59 |
seb128 | it keeps the state | 10:59 |
jussi | seb128: so how do I make both of them to be full screen? | 10:59 |
seb128 | i.e when the dash is open you have control similar to the wm ones on the panel | 10:59 |
jussi | (also, as a side note gnome control center crashes all the time, and when I try send a bug, it also crashes :/) | 11:00 |
seb128 | jussi, you click on small round icon with a square in the left of the unity panel when the dash is open | 11:00 |
seb128 | the white one | 11:00 |
jussi | ahhh, I hadnt seen that thing before | 11:00 |
jussi | right, thanks for that! | 11:01 |
seb128 | jussi, yw | 11:02 |
jussi | seb128: Im reportign the bug now with g-c-c via ubuntu-bug, Are the people here those who will help debug/fix? or do I need to go find someone else? | 11:03 |
seb128 | jussi, if you don't let apport catch the issue and report a bug with the dump the bug is not going to be useful | 11:04 |
jussi | seb128: apport crashed when trying to report it... | 11:06 |
seb128 | did you report that bug? | 11:06 |
jussi | not yet - just got through reportign the g-c-c one - here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1007356 | 11:07 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1007356 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Gnome control center crashes on opening sub section" [Undecided,New] | 11:07 |
seb128 | can you get a stacktrace with gdb? | 11:08 |
jussi | perhaps, if youll instruct me how to do it? | 11:08 |
seb128 | jussi, gdb gnome-control-center | 11:08 |
seb128 | you will get a (gdb) prompt | 11:08 |
seb128 | type "run" on it and validate | 11:09 |
seb128 | get the issue, g-c-c will freeze | 11:09 |
seb128 | go back to where you ran gdb and type "backtrace" | 11:09 |
seb128 | copy the log to the bug | 11:09 |
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jussi | seb128: added to the bug | 11:12 |
mhr3 | seb128, `gdb -b -ex run -ex -bt gnome-control-center` ;) | 11:13 |
seb128 | mhr3, hehe | 11:13 |
mhr3 | and ideally pipe it to pastebin :) | 11:13 |
seb128 | jussi, can you install gnome-control-center-dbgsym libglib2.0-0-dbg libgtk-3-0-dbgsym | 11:14 |
jussi | E: Unable to locate package gnome-control-center-dbgsym | 11:14 |
jussi | E: Unable to locate package libgtk-3-0-dbgsym | 11:14 |
seb128 | jussi, you need a ddeb apt source | 11:16 |
seb128 | jussi, i.e add "deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ precise main restricted universe multiverse" to your sources.list (and the same for precise-updates and precise-proposed if you use those) | 11:16 |
jussi | what are those and why arent they there already? | 11:17 |
seb128 | jussi, they are the servers which debug packages, and they are not on by default because debugs are not an user thing | 11:17 |
seb128 | which->with | 11:18 |
seb128 | jussi, you are supposed to let apport report the bug and the retracing happens on the server side | 11:18 |
seb128 | but apport is buggy for you | 11:18 |
seb128 | you should maybe report the apport issue, get it solved and then submit the bug the normal way | 11:18 |
jussi | lets finish this now we have started - sec | 11:19 |
jussi | right, installed. now gdb again? | 11:22 |
seb128 | yes | 11:22 |
seb128 | same as before | 11:23 |
seb128 | the log should have debug symbols this time | 11:23 |
jussi | put it on the bug ? | 11:23 |
seb128 | yes | 11:23 |
jussi | done | 11:24 |
seb128 | jussi, do you have unity-2d-common installed? what version? | 11:25 |
jussi | jussi@squirrel:~$ apt-cache policy unity-2d-common | 11:26 |
jussi | unity-2d-common: | 11:26 |
jussi | Installed: 5.12.0-0ubuntu1 | 11:26 |
jussi | Candidate: 5.12.0-0ubuntu1 | 11:26 |
seb128 | jussi, locate com.canonical.Unity2d.gschema.xml | 11:27 |
jussi | jussi@squirrel:~$ locate com.canonical.Unity2d.gschema.xml | 11:27 |
jussi | /home/jussi/ubuntu-tv/trunk/data/com.canonical.Unity2d.gschema.xml | 11:27 |
jussi | /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.Unity2d.gschema.xml | 11:27 |
jussi | /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.Unity2d.gschema.xml | 11:27 |
seb128 | jussi, that's your issue: /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.Unity2d.gschema.xml | 11:27 |
seb128 | you have a local build leftoever which is missing keys which are in the current version | 11:28 |
jussi | ahh | 11:28 |
seb128 | that's taking over the system version | 11:28 |
jussi | thanks very much - let me see if I can somehow uninstall that old ubuntu-tv stuff | 11:28 |
seb128 | jussi, rm the local schemas dir otherwise | 11:29 |
jussi | seb128: works now - thanks incredibly much, and well done for spotting it. | 11:30 |
seb128 | jussi, you're welcome | 11:30 |
jussi | As an added bonus, I now know how to use gdb in a very basic way, which will assist in helping others fix stuff :) | 11:31 |
jussi | btw, while I am here, is there a virtual keyboard for unity? Id like to be able to use my touch screen laptop if possible... | 11:33 |
seb128 | onboard is what is installed with Ubuntu | 11:34 |
jussi | thanks | 11:35 |
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pavolzetor | hi, I wonder why compiz is used instead of clutter | 12:34 |
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mhall119 | Because compiz was way ahead of clutter when the choice was made | 12:53 |
JanC | s/clutter/mutter/ ;) | 13:18 |
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mterry | Hello! I've got a bamf question. Say I've got an app that has one window. Then I close that one window. Then I open a new window. It appears that bamf will hide the launcher icon after the first close and not show any icon for the second window. Is that expected? | 14:24 |
mterry | MacSlow, ^ Is someone other than Jason knowledgeable about such bamf stuff? | 14:27 |
seb128 | mterry, hey, what unity version do you use? | 14:27 |
seb128 | mterry, package version | 14:27 |
mterry | seb128, 5.12-0ubuntu1 | 14:27 |
seb128 | mterry, it's fixed in 1.1 | 14:27 |
seb128 | that's bug #995916 | 14:28 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 995916 in unity (Ubuntu Precise) "No launcher icon or Alt+Tab entry for Gimp windows" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995916 | 14:28 |
seb128 | mterry, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/5.12-0ubuntu1.1 | 14:28 |
mterry | seb128, you're the best! Let me try it out | 14:28 |
* mterry grumbles that they are supposed to upload to quantal first, per SRU process | 14:29 | |
seb128 | mterry, the version was uploaded to quantal but failed to build with the new toolchain, those build issues are being worked | 14:29 |
seb128 | mterry, ^ | 14:29 |
mterry | ah | 14:29 |
MacSlow | mterry, kamstrup and mhr3 know a bit about it too afaik | 14:35 |
mhr3 | mterry, Trevinho is the expert ;) | 14:37 |
mterry | MacSlow, mhr3: Ah, cool. But actually the current SRU seems to have fixed my specific problem. | 14:38 |
MacSlow | mterry, even better :) | 14:38 |
mhr3 | it did sound familiar, Trevinho was talking about it on the sprint :) | 14:38 |
Trevinho | mhr3: mterry the issue is fixed in trunk | 14:39 |
Trevinho | and in proposed | 14:39 |
seb128 | Trevinho, hey | 14:39 |
mhr3 | sorry to wake you from your slumber :P | 14:39 |
seb128 | Trevinho, until still doesn't like bamfdaemon to be killed :p | 14:39 |
Trevinho | hi seb128 | 14:39 |
Trevinho | actually was more an unity/bamf issue... | 14:39 |
seb128 | until->unity | 14:39 |
Trevinho | seb128: no? :o | 14:40 |
Trevinho | It works to me | 14:40 |
seb128 | Trevinho, I was testing the "double icons after restarting bamf", I've now icons for stuff I closed that are still displayed as running in the launcher | 14:40 |
seb128 | i.e I did run gconf-editor, killed bamfdaemon, closed gconf-editor and it's stucked in my launcher as running now | 14:41 |
Trevinho | oh seb128 you're playing too much with it :P | 14:43 |
Trevinho | bamfdaemon is supposed to restart basically immediately | 14:43 |
seb128 | lol | 14:43 |
Trevinho | yes, that has not been fixed... Let me think... | 14:43 |
seb128 | Trevinho, well in practice bamfdaemon doesn't segfault a lot nowadays so it's not much of an issue | 14:44 |
Trevinho | that's the best thing :) | 14:44 |
Trevinho | about the icon issue... well.. bamf deosn't say to unity when it's really up and down, so we can't just check if an app is still valid... | 14:45 |
Trevinho | However, maybe I've something in mind that could help | 14:45 |
Trevinho | place a bug for that, but it's very low prio at the moment :) | 14:45 |
Trevinho | probably bamf-factory could just mark as closed the views that have not be reopened... but it's not that easy right now... with gdbus it could be better | 14:47 |
seb128 | Trevinho, I will not bother for now, as you said it's low priority ;-) | 14:49 |
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mterry | mhr3, Trevinho: So I'm swapping between two windows in my app. And in between (one is hidden, the other isn't shown yet), bamf temporarily hides the launcher icon. Is there a libunity call I can make to keep the icon around for a while? | 15:28 |
mhr3 | if there is, it'd be a hack | 15:37 |
mhr3 | iirc app indicators were capable of such things | 15:39 |
mhr3 | mterry, but i'd suggest to use a notebook widget :P | 15:41 |
mterry | mhr3, I think I found a way around it, by rijiggering when they hide/show | 15:41 |
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mhall119 | tedg: ping | 16:58 |
mhall119 | tedg: somebody has written some code to get Java Swing window menus in the Global Menu | 16:58 |
mhall119 | http://hanynowsky.wordpress.com/2012/05/12/integration-of-java-swing-applications-with-unity-global-menu-in-ubuntu-12-04/ | 16:58 |
tedg | Nice | 16:58 |
mhall119 | is that something we can patch into our OpenJDK/Icedtea packages so it'll just work for all Swing apps? | 16:59 |
tedg | I have no clue. | 16:59 |
tedg | Seem possible, but I don't know how all the Java stuff works. | 17:00 |
mhall119 | seb128: ^^ any idea who I should talk to about carrying a distro patch for OpenJDK to enable Global Menu support? | 17:01 |
seb128 | mhall119, try doko or email ubuntu-devel list | 17:01 |
mhall119 | I'll contact the ML, thanks | 17:01 |
jussi | small cry... | 17:13 |
jussi | it seems totem is not compiled to do tv :/ | 17:14 |
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heavensmile | I just want to say that I really like ubuntu unity | 22:58 |
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