=== andyrock is now known as andyrock|zzz [00:16] mhall119: [00:16] mhall119: ping? [00:17] thumper: pong [00:17] mhall119: hey, just trying to chase down how to get contributors to sign the copyright assignment thingy [00:18] well it's not an assignment anymore, right? It's a broad copyright grant [00:18] mhall119: I have no idea what it is these days [00:19] what is it now? [00:19] and how to they sign / use it? [00:21] hmmm, ubuntu.com appear to be having some drupal issues atm [00:23] thumper: it's up on the website somewhere, unfortunately the site appears to be down [00:23] :( [00:23] mhall119: I'm guessing "the website somewhere" could be quite a lot to search through :) [00:24] yeah [00:24] heh [00:24] * thumper has munchies [00:24] time for lunch [00:25] time for dinner [01:59] hellow. [10:53] Hrm, I had a thought - perhaps it could be nice to have the indicator icon highlighted a different colour for different things. ie. for empathy or chat messages, it could be blue, for thunderbird or email, it could be green etc etc [10:56] also, can someone explain to me why on one laptop the dash covers the whole screen, and the other only part? [10:57] jussi, the dash depends of the screen resolution, i.e on netbooks where it would take 90% of the screen it doesn't make sense to not take the screen space [10:57] jussi, the color stuff was suggested in the past, there is probably a bug in launchpad about it [10:58] seb128: thats strange, as one is 1366x768 (fullscreen dash) and the other 1280x800 (partial screen dash) [10:59] jussi, you maybe clicked once on the button in the panel? [10:59] it keeps the state [10:59] seb128: so how do I make both of them to be full screen? [10:59] i.e when the dash is open you have control similar to the wm ones on the panel [11:00] (also, as a side note gnome control center crashes all the time, and when I try send a bug, it also crashes :/) [11:00] jussi, you click on small round icon with a square in the left of the unity panel when the dash is open [11:00] the white one [11:00] ahhh, I hadnt seen that thing before [11:01] right, thanks for that! [11:02] jussi, yw [11:03] seb128: Im reportign the bug now with g-c-c via ubuntu-bug, Are the people here those who will help debug/fix? or do I need to go find someone else? [11:04] jussi, if you don't let apport catch the issue and report a bug with the dump the bug is not going to be useful [11:06] seb128: apport crashed when trying to report it... [11:06] did you report that bug? [11:07] not yet - just got through reportign the g-c-c one - here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1007356 [11:07] Ubuntu bug 1007356 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Gnome control center crashes on opening sub section" [Undecided,New] [11:08] can you get a stacktrace with gdb? [11:08] perhaps, if youll instruct me how to do it? [11:08] jussi, gdb gnome-control-center [11:08] you will get a (gdb) prompt [11:09] type "run" on it and validate [11:09] get the issue, g-c-c will freeze [11:09] go back to where you ran gdb and type "backtrace" [11:09] copy the log to the bug === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:12] seb128: added to the bug [11:13] seb128, `gdb -b -ex run -ex -bt gnome-control-center` ;) [11:13] mhr3, hehe [11:13] and ideally pipe it to pastebin :) [11:14] jussi, can you install gnome-control-center-dbgsym libglib2.0-0-dbg libgtk-3-0-dbgsym [11:14] E: Unable to locate package gnome-control-center-dbgsym [11:14] E: Unable to locate package libgtk-3-0-dbgsym [11:16] jussi, you need a ddeb apt source [11:16] jussi, i.e add "deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ precise main restricted universe multiverse" to your sources.list (and the same for precise-updates and precise-proposed if you use those) [11:17] what are those and why arent they there already? [11:17] jussi, they are the servers which debug packages, and they are not on by default because debugs are not an user thing [11:18] which->with [11:18] jussi, you are supposed to let apport report the bug and the retracing happens on the server side [11:18] but apport is buggy for you [11:18] you should maybe report the apport issue, get it solved and then submit the bug the normal way [11:19] lets finish this now we have started - sec [11:22] right, installed. now gdb again? [11:22] yes [11:23] same as before [11:23] the log should have debug symbols this time [11:23] put it on the bug ? [11:23] yes [11:24] done [11:25] jussi, do you have unity-2d-common installed? what version? [11:26] jussi@squirrel:~$ apt-cache policy unity-2d-common [11:26] unity-2d-common: [11:26] Installed: 5.12.0-0ubuntu1 [11:26] Candidate: 5.12.0-0ubuntu1 [11:27] jussi, locate com.canonical.Unity2d.gschema.xml [11:27] jussi@squirrel:~$ locate com.canonical.Unity2d.gschema.xml [11:27] /home/jussi/ubuntu-tv/trunk/data/com.canonical.Unity2d.gschema.xml [11:27] /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.Unity2d.gschema.xml [11:27] /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.Unity2d.gschema.xml [11:27] jussi, that's your issue: /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.Unity2d.gschema.xml [11:28] you have a local build leftoever which is missing keys which are in the current version [11:28] ahh [11:28] that's taking over the system version [11:28] thanks very much - let me see if I can somehow uninstall that old ubuntu-tv stuff [11:29] jussi, rm the local schemas dir otherwise [11:30] seb128: works now - thanks incredibly much, and well done for spotting it. [11:30] jussi, you're welcome [11:31] As an added bonus, I now know how to use gdb in a very basic way, which will assist in helping others fix stuff :) [11:33] btw, while I am here, is there a virtual keyboard for unity? Id like to be able to use my touch screen laptop if possible... [11:34] onboard is what is installed with Ubuntu [11:35] thanks === chaoticuk_ is now known as chaoticuk === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:34] hi, I wonder why compiz is used instead of clutter === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:53] Because compiz was way ahead of clutter when the choice was made [13:18] s/clutter/mutter/ ;) === om26er_ is now known as om26er [14:24] Hello! I've got a bamf question. Say I've got an app that has one window. Then I close that one window. Then I open a new window. It appears that bamf will hide the launcher icon after the first close and not show any icon for the second window. Is that expected? [14:27] MacSlow, ^ Is someone other than Jason knowledgeable about such bamf stuff? [14:27] mterry, hey, what unity version do you use? [14:27] mterry, package version [14:27] seb128, 5.12-0ubuntu1 [14:27] mterry, it's fixed in 1.1 [14:28] that's bug #995916 [14:28] Launchpad bug 995916 in unity (Ubuntu Precise) "No launcher icon or Alt+Tab entry for Gimp windows" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995916 [14:28] mterry, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/5.12-0ubuntu1.1 [14:28] seb128, you're the best! Let me try it out [14:29] * mterry grumbles that they are supposed to upload to quantal first, per SRU process [14:29] mterry, the version was uploaded to quantal but failed to build with the new toolchain, those build issues are being worked [14:29] mterry, ^ [14:29] ah [14:35] mterry, kamstrup and mhr3 know a bit about it too afaik [14:37] mterry, Trevinho is the expert ;) [14:38] MacSlow, mhr3: Ah, cool. But actually the current SRU seems to have fixed my specific problem. [14:38] mterry, even better :) [14:38] it did sound familiar, Trevinho was talking about it on the sprint :) [14:39] mhr3: mterry the issue is fixed in trunk [14:39] and in proposed [14:39] Trevinho, hey [14:39] sorry to wake you from your slumber :P [14:39] Trevinho, until still doesn't like bamfdaemon to be killed :p [14:39] hi seb128 [14:39] actually was more an unity/bamf issue... [14:39] until->unity [14:40] seb128: no? :o [14:40] It works to me [14:40] Trevinho, I was testing the "double icons after restarting bamf", I've now icons for stuff I closed that are still displayed as running in the launcher [14:41] i.e I did run gconf-editor, killed bamfdaemon, closed gconf-editor and it's stucked in my launcher as running now [14:43] oh seb128 you're playing too much with it :P [14:43] bamfdaemon is supposed to restart basically immediately [14:43] lol [14:43] yes, that has not been fixed... Let me think... [14:44] Trevinho, well in practice bamfdaemon doesn't segfault a lot nowadays so it's not much of an issue [14:44] that's the best thing :) [14:45] about the icon issue... well.. bamf deosn't say to unity when it's really up and down, so we can't just check if an app is still valid... [14:45] However, maybe I've something in mind that could help [14:45] place a bug for that, but it's very low prio at the moment :) [14:47] probably bamf-factory could just mark as closed the views that have not be reopened... but it's not that easy right now... with gdbus it could be better [14:49] Trevinho, I will not bother for now, as you said it's low priority ;-) === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:28] mhr3, Trevinho: So I'm swapping between two windows in my app. And in between (one is hidden, the other isn't shown yet), bamf temporarily hides the launcher icon. Is there a libunity call I can make to keep the icon around for a while? [15:37] if there is, it'd be a hack [15:39] iirc app indicators were capable of such things [15:41] mterry, but i'd suggest to use a notebook widget :P [15:41] mhr3, I think I found a way around it, by rijiggering when they hide/show === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [16:58] tedg: ping [16:58] tedg: somebody has written some code to get Java Swing window menus in the Global Menu [16:58] http://hanynowsky.wordpress.com/2012/05/12/integration-of-java-swing-applications-with-unity-global-menu-in-ubuntu-12-04/ [16:58] Nice [16:59] is that something we can patch into our OpenJDK/Icedtea packages so it'll just work for all Swing apps? [16:59] I have no clue. [17:00] Seem possible, but I don't know how all the Java stuff works. [17:01] seb128: ^^ any idea who I should talk to about carrying a distro patch for OpenJDK to enable Global Menu support? [17:01] mhall119, try doko or email ubuntu-devel list [17:01] I'll contact the ML, thanks [17:13] small cry... [17:14] it seems totem is not compiled to do tv :/ === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader === yofel_ is now known as yofel === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === salem_ is now known as _salem [22:58] I just want to say that I really like ubuntu unity