[00:00] <smjms> [snake]: http://wolframalpha.com/input/?i=cos(3)
[00:00] <Harris> Darael, harris@harris-HP-Pavilion-dv6000-RP296UA-ABA:~$ ln -s file:///home/harris/Desktop/School file:///home/harris/Desktop/Pictures file:///home/harris/Desktop/What%20Have%20you%20Learned%20About%20Ubuntu /home/harris/Desktop/Dropbox/
[00:01] <Harris> oops floodbot its time to mute me
[00:01] <Harris> !floodbot
[00:01] <Harris> !ubottu
[00:01] <Darael> Harris: If you used mine from before, you created the wrong link to sync multiple folders.  Issue "rm ~harris/Desktop/Dropbox", followed by "mkdir ~harris/Desktop/Dropbox" and then "ln -s ~harris/Desktop/{All\ Music,School,Pictures,What\ Have\ you\ Learned\ About\ Ubuntu,Dropbox/}"
[00:01] <[snake]> smjms, Thanks!!
[00:03] <Harris> Darael, what do i paste in
[00:03] <Darael> Harris: In turn, each of the things I gave in quotes, sans the quotes, hitting enter each time.  You could insert && in between instead of pressing enter if you like.
[00:04] <Harris> if i give you the locations can you make the code like for the first one
[00:04] <jonf> hi, can anyone tell me how to do a do-release-upgrade to 11.10 on a server? I don't want to go to 12.04LTS at this point.
[00:05] <KRomo> i just got this error: colord crashed with sigabrt in raise  any idea why?
[00:05] <Darael> jonf: Which release are you on at the moment?
[00:05] <jonf> 11.04 at this point
[00:05] <Harris> Darael,  is that a yes
[00:06] <Darael> Harris: Why did you try to link with file:// locations?  You clearly know that's not what the shell expects, since you told us about /home/harris/Desktop/All\ Music, yet you tried to link the others with Nautilus URIs... why?
[00:06] <arooni-mobile> compiz just crashed on ubuntu 12.04 lts... how can i get my window bars back without restarting lightdm?
[00:06] <harushimo> what is a good light weight gui interface
[00:06] <harushimo> I was debating between openbox or fluxbox
[00:06] <Dacs> any help?
[00:06] <Pici> jonf: do-release-upgrade shouldn't move yout to 12.04 if you're only on 11.04 right now.
[00:07] <harushimo> which one is better
[00:07] <Darael> harushimo: I favour e: Enlightenment DR17, but there is no "best", of course.
[00:07] <Pici> !best | harushimo
[00:07] <Darael> !poll | harushimo
[00:07] <KRomo> i just got this error: colord crashed with sigabrt in raise  any idea why?
[00:07] <harushimo> I will choose it
[00:07] <harushimo> I just want a opinion
[00:07] <Harris> Darael, please help me do the codes one by one
[00:07] <Harris> there are only four
[00:08] <harushimo> I have a virtual machine for ubuntu server. I want a gui but a lightweight gui
[00:08] <jonf> pici: thanks!
[00:08] <harushimo> I still need access to the terminal too
[00:08] <Harris> please Darael
[00:09] <Darael> Harris: I am happy to /help/, but you are asking me to do everything for you.  Have you even tried to work out what was going on?
[00:09] <Harris> /home/harris/Desktop/What Have you Learned About Ubuntu to /home/harris/Desktop/Dropbox
[00:10] <Harris> /home/harris/Desktop/School to /home/harris/Desktop/Dropbox
[00:10] <Darael> Harris: I'm sorry, sometimes I get impatient.  Please ignore that.  Please make sure /home/harris/Desktop/Dropbox exists and is an empty folder.  Then provide the four paths to be synced, all on one line, and I will compose a command for you.  Don't flood the channel.
[00:10] <Harris> ok
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: fluxbox
[00:11] <Dacs> "W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_universe_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch"
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1017244/
[00:13] <arooni-mobile> compiz just crashed on ubuntu 12.04 lts... how can i get my window bars back without restarting lightdm?
[00:13] <Romance> Hello, i am using ubuntu 11.04 , i accidentally deleted the default python version which is 2.7 , now i can't even go to the terminal or synaptic packet manager , terminal gone , and synaptic give error to load , how do i fix this
[00:13] <Harris> /home/harris/Desktop/Pictures to /home/harris/Desktop/Dropbox
[00:13] <Harris> /home/harris/Desktop/School to /home/harris/Desktop/Dropbox
[00:13] <Harris> /home/harris/Desktop/What Have you Learned About Ubuntu
[00:13] <Harris> /home/harris/Desktop/What Have you Learned About Ubuntu to /home/harris/Desktop/Dropbox
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: press ALT+F2 and run:   compiz --replace
[00:13] <FloodBot1> Harris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <harushimo> ok
[00:13] <PringlesCan> Hello all, I was wondering if there's a preferred way to keep manually compiled software up to date?
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Harris: you link them to things INSIDE the folder, not to the folder itself
[00:13] <Harris> sorry i tried to do one line
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Harris: think about it
[00:14] <Darael> Harris: "ln -s /home/harris/Desktop/{All\ Music,Pictures,School,What\ Have\ you\ Learned\ About\ Ubuntu,Dropbox}"
[00:14] <harushimo> you said to do a symbolic link ln  -s /usr/shared/applications/Virtual.desktop ~/Desktop/vbox.desktop?
[00:14] <harushimo> is that right
[00:14] <Harris> do i include the "
[00:14] <Darael> Harris: Nope.
[00:14] <Harris> so it is ln -s /home/harris/Desktop/{All\ Music,Pictures,School,What\ Have\ you\ Learned\ About\ Ubuntu,Dropbox}
[00:14] <Darael> Harris: Correct.
[00:14] <Romance> Hello, i am using ubuntu 11.04 , i accidentally deleted the default python version which is 2.7 , now i can't even go to the terminal or synaptic packet manager , terminal gone , and synaptic give error to load , how do i fix this
[00:14] <Harris> even the period
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Harris: looking at the past commands, haven't you worked out the syntax of ln yet!!?
[00:15] <Darael> Harris: What period?  There are commas, but no full stops, in that command.
[00:15] <Harris> after dropbox
[00:15] <jamescarr> where is the picture 12.04 takes through your webcam kept at?
[00:15] <jamescarr> for your profile pic?
[00:15] <Darael> ActionParsnip: Some people refuse to do their own thinking.  The syntax has been explicitly provided at least three times, but Harris still wants the command provided.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> Darael: shame
[00:16] <Darael> Harris: I don't see a full stop; I only see a closing curly bracket (}).  And yes, that's meant to be there.
[00:17] <Harris> ok thank you so much Darael  it worked
[00:17] <locoguano> Quick question.  When I open "Additional Drivers", four are listed. Three of them are "NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernal module, and VDPAU library" and one is "nvidia_current_updates". Which one should I use?
[00:17] <Harris> and i do do my own work linux is confussing me
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Harris: thinnk about it...  ln -s /folder/to/be/linked /link/to/make
[00:18] <Chuck_Norris> locoguano: "NVIDIA binary Xorg driver"
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Harris: that's all it is
[00:18] <Romance> Hello, i am using ubuntu 11.04 , i accidentally deleted the default python version which is 2.7 , now i can't even go to the terminal or synaptic packet manager , terminal gone , and synaptic give error to load , how do i fix this
[00:18] <locoguano> Chuck.. ok.. but there are 3 of them. How do I know which to use?
[00:18] <jamescarr> when ubuntu takes a pic of you during setup, where the heck is it stored?!
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> jamescarr: probably in home some place
[00:19] <Darael> Romance: press ctl+alt+f1 to get a terminal, log in, type "sudo apt-get install python2.7", complete that, and press ctl+alt+f7 to get back to the GUI.
[00:19] <Chuck_Norris> locoguano: take a screenshot
[00:19] <gnubie> jamescarr>  look in pictures/webcam
[00:20] <Darael> Romance: Alternatively, try ctl+alt+t to get a gnome-terminal.
[00:20] <locoguano> Just clicked to activate one and it says I have broken packages... (new to linux obviously)
[00:20] <toph> can anyone tell me what is wrong with this statement "date %A%_B%_d%_Y %-r%_Z" I'm trying to get it to type out the date and time a specific way. :(
[00:20] <Harris> ok
[00:20] <Dacs> ActionParsnip: did i had a bad apt deamon or what? also if you don't mind i was talking to you last night and you advised that i use xubuntu , i did install it but it look like unity is still taking control please advise.
[00:21] <Darael> toph: You need a + before the %A.
[00:21] <Harris> what is a site that has answers to ubuntu questions that i have asked today for example how do you hide a folder
[00:21] <Chuck_Norris> locoguano: open a terminal and copy & paste this command: sudo apt-get install -f
[00:21] <Darael> Harris: http://askubuntu.com
[00:21] <reisio> jamescarr: find ~/ -iname '*.jp*g'
[00:21] <Darael> Harris: Also, of course, the forums on http://ubuntuforums.org and the documentation at http://help.ubuntu.com
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: so when you log in to the Xubuntu session, it runs unity?
[00:22] <toph> Darael thank you :)
[00:22] <jeek> toph: date +"%A%_B%_d%_Y %-r%_Z"
[00:23] <KRomo> hey guys, i just ran sudo touch /forcefsck and rebooted. where do i see rthe log of fsck?
[00:23] <reisio> logs are usually in /var/log/
[00:23] <KRomo> i want to see if it found errors
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: less  /var/log/fsck
[00:24] <KRomo> it says nothing has been logged yet
[00:24] <Darael> KRomo: Try /var/log/boot.log perhaps?
[00:24] <Dacs> ActionParsnip: when i boot the laptop i can see xubuntu splash , but it boot into unity
[00:24] <KRomo> Darael,  yes there is a log
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: the boot splash is irrelevant, you are looging in to Unity session
[00:25] <Dacs> ActionParsnip: yes
[00:25] <Harris> i have searched all of the sites how do i hide a folder
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: log off, select Xubuntu session, then log in
[00:25] <KRomo> but how do i read this log?
[00:25] <KRomo> i dont see any errors in it
[00:25] <KRomo> i guess it had no errors :)
[00:25] <Jordan_U> Harris: Rename it so that it begins with a '.' .
[00:26] <Blackshirt> Harris, just prepend it with dot
[00:26] <txomon|home> how can I download mini isos from the archives?
[00:26] <txomon|home> with apt-get I mean
[00:26] <Darael> KRomo: Assuming you've got it up onscreen, and you see no errors, you can either assume there were none or pastebin it and check what the people in here think.
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> txomon|home: the mini iso isn't downloaded with apt-get
[00:26] <KRomo> http://pastebin.com/mdiufhHy
[00:26] <txomon|home> ActionParsnip, but it is downloaded from mirrors
[00:26] <Blackshirt> Txmon: are you sure mini iso available on pool archives?
[00:26] <KRomo> how does that look?
[00:26] <Darael> txomon|home: The minimal CDs are not packages and cannot be downloaded with apt-get.  Use wget instead.
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> txomon|home: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[00:27] <txomon|home> yes, but you can specify mirrors for apt, and use them to grab those mini isos
[00:27] <KRomo> is that the right log?
[00:27] <Harris> so .folder
[00:28] <Blackshirt> Harris, yes,,,
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> txomon|home: the ISO isn't downloaed with apt-get
[00:28] <KRomo> Darael, can you check out the pastebin?
[00:28] <Darael> Harris: You can also hide folders by adding their names (one to a line) to a plain-text line called .hidden in the same folder - this will hide them from the file manager but not the terminal.
[00:28] <Blackshirt> Txcomon, apt-get works with .deb file
[00:29] <txomon|home> Blackshirt, and with source packages
[00:29] <Harris> can you hide it from the desktop
[00:29] <Darael> KRomo: Sure, just a mo; working over SSH here, had to remember how to copy-paste in Screen.
[00:30] <Darael> Harris: The desktop is implemented by the file manager.  If the FM is set to show hidden files, files of the .filename form or those listed in ~/Desktop/.hidden will be shown on the desktop, otherwise they'll be hidden.
[00:30] <Darael> KRomo: It certainly looks fine to me.
[00:31] <KRomo> it is the right log?
[00:31] <KRomo> if there were errors it would be there?
[00:31] <Jonii> How to resize ubuntu partition?
[00:31] <BassoPT-MBAir> do you fancy a bum?
[00:31] <Jonii> I want to make it bigger
[00:31] <reisio> Jonii: with gparted from the install image
[00:31] <Darael> KRomo: That looks like a /var/log/boot.log to me, but I'm not sufficiently intimately familiar with that offhand.
[00:31] <locoguano> Chuck: Did "sudo apt-get install -f", still showing 3 drivers, still get "broken packages" when I try to activate one.
[00:31] <Harris> i put the dot and it isnt hidden
[00:32] <Jonii> reisio: you mean, boot from install media, and then use gparted there on my computer?
[00:32] <reisio> Harris: hidden from what?
[00:32] <reisio> Jonii: right
[00:32] <Harris> the desktop
[00:32] <Jonii> It does not break my ubuntu?
[00:32] <reisio> Jonii: it shouldn't, but resizing is not 100% safe
[00:32] <reisio> Jonii: you have a backup system for your personal data don't you? :)
[00:33] <Jonii> Oh well, new computer, fresh install, nothing of value here
[00:33] <reisio> :D
[00:33] <Jonii> No I don't have anything like that
[00:33] <reisio> Jonii: what're you taking space from?
[00:33] <Harris> Darael,  i want to hide the dropbox folder
[00:33] <Darael> Jonii: No more than the usual risk involved with messing with partitions, which is small but present.  Backups are important if there's any of your data on there... and I see reisio has already covered this.
[00:33] <Jonii> reisio: windows. I'm hesitant to remove it completely
[00:33] <reisio> well see that you acquire something like that once you have data:p
[00:33] <BassoPT-MBAir> fancy a bum?
[00:34] <Jonii> reisio: how to do something like that?
[00:34] <reisio> Jonii: it's a good idea to defrag Windows' file system before resizing them
[00:34] <szal> BassoPT-MBAir: pardon?
[00:34] <Jonii> reisio: true. I was thinking of doing that
[00:34] <Darael> Harris: OK, so you can't rename it because Dropbox won't recognise it, but you /can/ create a plain-text file called .hidden on your desktop and give it the content "Dropbox".  You can do that with the command "echo Dropbox > /home/harris/Desktop/.hidden" (no quotes).
[00:34] <BassoPT-MBAir> you know a bum
[00:34] <reisio> Jonii: if you have two disks, there are a number of methods, otherwise you could use an online solutin, like Ubunutu1
[00:34] <BassoPT-MBAir> man on man action!
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> BassoPT-MBAir: please don't
[00:34] <Darael> szal: Don't feed the trolls, please.
[00:34] <szal> BassoPT-MBAir: no, and it's probably off-topic here
[00:34] <BassoPT-MBAir> lol
[00:35] <Harris> drop box is still there
[00:36] <Harris> should i post a screen shot
[00:36] <Darael> Harris: You may have to refresh the desktop.  Right-click it and select "refresh", or log out and in, or something, and see if that changes.  If that fails, try pressing ctl+h to toggle showing hidden files.
[00:38] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, it worked, xubuntu
[00:38] <r1pp3rj4ck> hey guys
[00:38] <convolution> hi all
[00:38] <r1pp3rj4ck> i use archlinux, but on the server we use ubuntu server
[00:38] <convolution> why "su" command in ubuntu doesn't work?
[00:39] <locoguano> Installing "Additional Drivers" for my Nvidia card. Three are listed under the name "NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module, and VDPAU library". When I try to activate one it get "SystemError: E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages".  Any help would be appreciated.
[00:39] <szal> !su | convolution
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> convolution: the root account is disabled, instead use:    sudo -i
[00:39] <r1pp3rj4ck> i wrote a bash script which executes a program
[00:39] <r1pp3rj4ck> and i call it like 'script.sh > script.log &'
[00:39] <convolution> why is disabled?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> convolution: security as well as other things
[00:40] <r1pp3rj4ck> and it doesn't really work on ubuntu, but it works on archlinxu
[00:40] <Harris> Darael,  it is hidden how do i get it back if i need it
[00:40] <convolution> i have ubuntu with a root account disabled? how to reactivate it?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> convolution: its not supported here
[00:40] <r1pp3rj4ck> could you give me some link when i can read how it works on ubuntu server and how to solve it?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | convolution
[00:40] <reisio> heh
[00:40] <Darael> Harris: Just press ctl+h and it'll show up, or use the terminal (where it's not hidden).
[00:41] <Harris> how do you refresh the desktop
[00:41] <fish13> hi, i replaced a file that was very important by an older version. Is it possible to retrieve it?
[00:41] <reisio> fish13: replaced how?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> convolution: if you use:  sudo -i    you will be root as you require, no need to enable the account
[00:41] <convolution> wait
[00:41] <Harris> i did that Darael  it didnt work
[00:41] <Darael> Harris: I do not recall, and can't check right now since I'm on a server machine.
[00:42] <convolution> i have also debian, and over there i type "su root" and it works well
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> convolution: debian has the account enabled.....
[00:42] <fish13> i overwrited the directory
[00:42] <MCl0vin> now the 10000 $ question , how do i play wmv video files
[00:42] <Darael> Harris: Then Put the focus on the desktop, go to the menu: view->hidden.
[00:42] <Harris> i did
[00:42] <Harris> that didnt work
[00:42] <Darael> MCl0vin: Install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package to get things like codecs, but if the file is DRMd you may have trouble.
[00:43] <fish13> hi, i replaced a file that was very important by an older version. Is it possible to retrieve it?
[00:43] <fish13> i overwrited the directory
[00:43] <locoguano> Installing "Additional Drivers" for my Nvidia card. Three are listed under the name "NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module, and VDPAU library". When I try to activate one it get "SystemError: E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages".  Any help would be appreciated. (Ran "sudo apt-get install -f" as suggested earlier, but nothing changed.)
[00:44] <Darael> fish13: Unfortunately, it is unlikely to be possible to recover your file unless it's still open in something (in which case, save it, quick!).  It doesn't help you now, but this is what backups and/or version control are for.
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: install ubuntu-restricted-extras gnome-mplayer vlc and w32codecs (from medibuntu repo)
[00:44] <L3top> locoguano: in terminal: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:44] <Harris> how do you refresh desktop
[00:45] <Darael> ActionParsnip: It's not necessary to install /all/ of those, now, is it?
[00:45] <Harris> unity
[00:45] <L3top> it is a strong mix Darael.
[00:45] <locoguano> L3top - Done. Same error.
[00:45] <MCl0vin> You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[00:46] <pengwu> hi all
[00:46] <L3top> locoguano: the error will be more verbose. Please pastebin
[00:46] <Harris> i hid a folder now when i click view hidden folders it doesnt show
[00:46] <pengwu> if i want to see a text file is UTF-8 or ASCII what should I do?
[00:46] <MCl0vin> Darael, how do i know if my files are DRMd?
[00:46] <pengwu> there are many files and I want to find all the ASCII files
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Darael: its what I install and I can view anything :)
[00:46] <Darael> L3top: True, but most people want to use /one/ player.  Personally, I just add medibuntu and install non-free-codecs (which depends on w(32|64)codecs and ubuntu-restricted-extras) and libdvdcss2 - I usually have VLC in place already.
[00:47] <Harris> .........
[00:47] <L3top> Darael: the only ones in "competition" are mplayer (which handles h264 better than vlc, as much as I love vlc) and vlc is a great swiss army knife
[00:47] <Harris> Darael,  when i click view i cant see
[00:47] <Harris> it
[00:47] <MCl0vin> !wmv
[00:47] <L3top> though she is gaining weight...
[00:47] <locoguano> Where do I find more info on that error?
[00:48] <Darael> L3top: VLC is indeed gaining weight, and I wasn't aware that mplayer handled h264 better.  Good to know.
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> L3top: i'm not aware of much that vlc can do that mplayer can't do
[00:48] <Harris> Darael, please how do i get it i am worried that i lost my folder
[00:49] <Darael> Harris: It's not gone.  To prove it, issue a "ls Desktop/Dropbox" in a terminal and see that it's still there.
[00:49] <L3top> vlc is a strong swiss army knife... it handles dvd navigation, for instance, much better than vlc...
[00:49] <L3top> er mplayer
[00:49] <r1pp3rj4ck> nvm, solved it with nohup
[00:49] <locoguano> L3top: where do I get that error info?
[00:49] <Darael> Harris: Indeed, issue an "ls Desktop" in the terminal and if you used the entry-in-.hidden method (rather than the .filename method) it'll show up there, too.
[00:49] <MCl0vin> can someone please help me with this issue
[00:50] <Harris> Darael, why can i view it then when i click view hidden files and folders
[00:50] <L3top> please pastebin the output of dpkg --configure -a
[00:50] <L3top> locoguano: ^
[00:50] <Darael> Harris: I don't recall off the top of my head how to refresh the desktop,  I'm sorry.  I'm working on a server; checking will be tricky.  Perhaps someone else knows.
[00:50] <locoguano> There was no output. It just went to the next command line.
[00:52] <locoguano> L3top: There was no output. It just went to the next command line.
[00:52] <L3top> locoguano: I misunderstood your saying that the same error was produced, I assumed you meant from dpkg... which would have been more verbose. apt-cache policy nvidia-current
[00:52] <locoguano> ah
[00:52] <Harris> what does working on a server mean
[00:53] <locoguano> nvidia-current:
[00:53] <locoguano>   Installed: (none)
[00:53] <locoguano>   Candidate: 295.53-0ubuntu1~precise~xup1
[00:53] <locoguano>   Version table:
[00:53] <locoguano>      295.53-0ubuntu1~precise~xup1 0
[00:53] <FloodBot1> locoguano: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:53] <locoguano>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
[00:53] <Harris> Darael, what does on the server mean
[00:54] <L3top> sorry locoguano. I should have put a grep in there
[00:54] <Harris> anyone know how to refresh the unity desktop
[00:54] <locoguano> pretend you are talking to a 5 year old, because that is about where I am with Linux. :)
[00:55] <Harris> ActionParsnip, how do i refresh the unity desktop
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Harris: refresh in what way?
[00:55] <Blackshirt> Harris you don't need them
[00:55] <Harris> ask Darael
[00:55] <L3top> locoguano: It appears the canonical gurus have very cleverly replaced their nvidia version in the last week or so... please sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[00:56] <Harris> ActionParsnip,  ask Darael
[00:56] <Pici> ActionParsnip: they're looking for the unity --reset command iirc, or whatever its actually called.
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Pici: sounds like it, just checkin
[00:56] <i7c> how could unity need a reset. you can't conf it anyways :D
[00:57] <Harris> ActionParsnip,  i hid a folder and when i click view hidden folders it doesnt show
[00:57] <L3top> i7c: it uses compositing in 3d... you could have redraw problems conceivably
[00:57] <locoguano> L3top: thanks
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Harris: I see, why are you storing data on the desktop anyway?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Harris:  you can always browse to the folder in nautilus and access it there
[00:59] <tr3nton> doesn't f5 refresh?
[00:59] <Harris> i refreshed it and it still doesnt show
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> Harris: use nautilus and access the desktop from your home folder
[01:00] <MCl0vin> can someone please help me with this issue i am having, i am trying to play wmv videos , but nothing that i do work, i have installed smplayer, vlc
[01:00] <locoguano> L3top: Do I need to do a reboot after that update?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: did you install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:01] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, it was already insatlled
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: did you try a different video output method in VLC? Do you get anything from playinig the video?
[01:02] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, voice only
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: set a different video output method
[01:02] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, no i didn't try different out
[01:03] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, checking it....
[01:03] <Harris> ok
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: so what did you try??
[01:04] <KRomo> what is the best mp3 player app on ubuntu?
[01:04] <KRomo> been liking clementine but itsa bit buggy
[01:04] <tr3nton> rhythmbox :D
[01:05] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, where can i change the method of how the video is out put
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: there is no single best
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: tools -> prefereces -> video
[01:05] <KRomo> installing Exaile now
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: what is the best MP3 player for any OS?
[01:05] <KRomo> looks very cleab
[01:06] <KRomo> foobar is best on windows :)
[01:06] <tr3nton> best is subjective
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: I prefer <insert name hare>
[01:06] <KRomo> well, better q, what do you guys use?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: its a nonesense question, all you will get is opinion
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: gnome-mplayer nuy mainly spotify :)
[01:07] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, "No suitable decoder module:
[01:07] <MCl0vin> VLC does not support the audio or video format "MSS2". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this."
[01:08] <KRomo> is there a spotify app for ubuntu?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: sure, add the spotify ppa
[01:09] <tr3nton> http://www.spotify.com/au/download/previews/
[01:10] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, any other suggestions please
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/how-to-install-native-spotify-linux.html
[01:11] <Harris> Darael, i couldnt get it to show after refreshing with f5 but ActionParsnip  gave me the idea of using home folder which worked thank you for your help today
[01:12] <KRomo> oh wow
[01:12] <KRomo> nice
[01:12] <Harris> both of you should work for geek squad
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: all the guides I've seen state w32codecs (or w64 for 64bit OS)
[01:13] <Harris> gtg i proboly be nack tomarrow for more help can ni pm you though ActionParsnip  and Darael
[01:13] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, i didn't install w32codecs...link please
[01:14] <L3top> MCl0vin: MSS2 is an archaic WMV container. I don't think ANYTHING will play it, though it could be converted. That is like if I wrote my own language, in my own character set, and you asked me for a document reader that would let you read it in a language you know.
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[01:15] <MCl0vin> L3top, isn't that what google translate for :)
[01:15] <L3top> Not if I invent the language, in a character set my 4 year old scribbled
[01:16] <MCl0vin> L3top, hahahah
[01:18] <vn> hi, im trying to install ubuntu, but it doesn't list my devices/partitions, what can I do?  if I go to ctrl+alt+f1 and into cfdisk, I can manage them...
[01:18] <james-ubc> hey guys im having an isue with empanthy... it's not connecting to faceook
[01:18] <james-ubc> user/pw is right
[01:19] <james-ubc> it just  says no error specified
[01:19] <hamchi> syo
[01:19] <MCl0vin> vn, did you try df -k
[01:19] <hamchi> sup
[01:19] <L3top> MCl0vin: if you have multiple files in this format, I would google some sort of converter
[01:19] <hamchi> i just got xubuntu linux installed
[01:19] <xangua> james-ubc: user as in 'facebook username' ¿ tried to change your facebook account and, obviosly, change it back in empathy¿
[01:19] <hamchi> it fucking epic
[01:19] <hamchi> its fcking magical
[01:19] <FloodBot1> hamchi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:19] <IdleOne> !language | hamchi
[01:19] <L3top> MCl0vin: I don't know of anything that will outright play it.
[01:19] <hamchi> its almost like a vagina.
[01:20] <MCl0vin> L3top, total of 31 files
[01:20] <toph> Is there any way to look up my zipcode from the terminal?
[01:20] <iamtheretoday> wow. speaking of vagina's
[01:20] <bazhang_> iamtheretoday, stop that
[01:20] <IdleOne> iamtheretoday: I won't just remove you. Please stop.
[01:20] <MCl0vin> conversion will take a while and i need to study my exam is on june 6th
[01:21] <MCl0vin> don't want to waste more time as it is already
[01:21] <L3top> MCl0vin: we all have priorities in life.
[01:21] <L3top> MCl0vin: the time wasted should be attributed to whomever chose that format
[01:21] <iamtheretoday> vn..  Did you try formatting with fat or nt ?
[01:22] <vn> MCl0vin: that command works
[01:22] <vn> iamtheretoday: it was ntfs'd before, but with cfdisk I just changed it to ext4 and swap
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> could convert the file
[01:24] <MCl0vin> am thinking to use wine
[01:24] <kara> How might one find drivers for an original macbook. Ubuntu isn't detecting any useful drivers for it.
[01:24] <vn> iamtheretoday: why that ntfs question?
[01:25] <iamtheretoday> And with the friendly ubuntu installer it doesn't see any hard drive devices?
[01:25] <xangua> !mac | kara already read this¿
[01:25] <vn> iamtheretoday: exact
[01:25] <james-ubc> xangua: huh?
[01:25] <L3top> MCl0vin: am I understanding you correctly... did some... terribly misguided professor give you these files in that format?
[01:25] <xangua> james-ubc: can you elaborate¿
[01:25] <vn> any way I can do a ncurses-based install of ubuntu desktop, like server versions?
[01:26] <bazhang> vn the alternate installer
[01:26] <MCl0vin> yes.
[01:26] <james-ubc> xangua: it just stoped working lastweek for whatever reason
[01:26] <bazhang> !alternate | vn
[01:26] <james-ubc> xangua: my username and pw changed but i've tried retyping it/making a new acc and loging in with a friend's account
[01:26] <xangua> james-ubc: tried to change your facebook password in the website¿ and change it in empahty too
[01:27] <vn> but is there a GUI with the alternate?  I need to manage my VBoxes thru X
[01:27] <xangua> james-ubc: does your friend has a 'facebook username'¿
[01:27] <ry773> #xbins
[01:27] <L3top> MCl0vin: Wow. That is a travesty. Yes sir... wine is your answer. What a shame... it should be brougt to their attention that this is a dead format, and for extra credit you will convert them for them.
[01:27] <MCl0vin> L3top, that is a deal i will have to work with him
[01:28] <iamtheretoday> vn.. Had the same problem once, went back and formatted the entire drive with ntfs , booted from a usb drive and loaded the ubuntu os with no problem..
[01:28] <MCl0vin> on a windows machine it works of internet explorer
[01:29] <MCl0vin> so i will try to install that
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> IE doesn't run in Ubuntu
[01:30] <james-ubc> xangua: yeah i tried the user/pass on the site itself and it accepted it but empathy refuses to connect for osme reason
[01:30] <L3top> Yes MCl0vin... I have RARELY run into this format, and it doesn't work on ANYTHING to my knowledge but wmp (or by proxy IE). Not mac, not linux, not plan9, not commodore... it is a proprietary container.
[01:31] <L3top> yeah... I said plan9... wanna fight about it?
[01:34] <toph> Is there any way to look up my zipcode from the terminal? I was thinking like looking up my ip address and finding it out from there. or maybe there is some location based thing I can install that can tell me when I connect to the internet?
[01:35] <Alvaro-iqQ> hello,,,,, antivirus para ubuntu server 10.04
[01:35] <Alvaro-iqQ> alguien que hable español
[01:35] <Darael> toph: Unless your device has a GPS built-in (rare) there is no reliable way to get your location other than asking the user... and ZIP codes don't even apply everywhere - what if you go abroad?
[01:35] <Darael> !es | Alvaro-iqQ
[01:36] <vn> iamtheretoday: ok will try thanks
[01:37] <Darael> toph: You could try using the SSIDs of wifi networks in the area to get a fix - this can be quite accurate, but you have to have access to someone that'll provide that.  I don't know how it's done, only that it can be.  Suggest searching for "wifi-based geolocation" or something.
[01:39] <toph> cool thanks
[01:41] <melodii> hi... people's faces in my flash videos have become blue, any idea?
[01:41] <bazhang> melodii, full screen flash, disable hardware acceleration
[01:42] <reisio> melodii: it's a flash/nvidia bug, what bazhang said is a good temporary fix
[01:42] <melodii> ouhhh.. like a magic
[01:43] <toph> what about location based adds
[01:43] <melodii> thanks so much guys
[01:43] <toph> they always seem to know what city or area I'm in. could that be polled to get my logaction?
[01:43] <nathaneltitane_> question: how can i track which program or process uses port 24800
[01:43] <L3top> You can script it toph
[01:44] <toph> I'm sorry I'm writing my first real bash script and my google fu and understanding of the man pages for things like grep suck lol
[01:44] <L3top> one moment
[01:44] <melodii> So, from now on i won't be getting any hardware acceleration from youtube videos any longer?
[01:44] <Darael> toph: They're unreliable, especially on dynamic IP addresses - they regularly get my location wrong - but yes, GeoIP is often workable depending how fine-grained you need your location data to be.
[01:45] <KRomo> i cant believe how much better music sounds on ubuntu
[01:45] <KRomo> call me crazy
[01:45] <Darael> KRomo: OK.  You're crazy.
[01:45] <KRomo> i guess it is driver
[01:45] <nathaneltitane_> KRomo.. depends on your hardware and driver
[01:45] <reisio> melodii: no, you'll just have to wait for I'm guessing Adobe to pull its head out of its $#$ again
[01:45] <KRomo> i have a pretty decent card...at least it was at the time
[01:46] <xangua> melodii: or you can use youtube's html5 player
[01:46] <reisio> melodii: with Flash it's always two steps forward one step back
[01:46] <KRomo> melodi c
[01:46] <KRomo> WHAT BROWSER ARE YOU USing?
[01:46] <Darael> reisio, melodii:  Didn't adobe decide they were only going to support Flash on Linux in the form of the Chrome plugin?
[01:46] <KRomo> -caps
[01:46] <reisio> Darael: dunno, got a link?
[01:47] <reisio> the chrome plugin takes the form of a netscape plugin AFAIK, though :p so it's probably a matter of semantics
[01:47] <KRomo> Chrome 22 comes with flash 11.3 which is very buggy
[01:47] <melodii> KRomo: i use firefox (primarily), chrome, and midori
[01:47] <KRomo> if you disable the internal pkugin
[01:47] <Darael> reisio: Not on hand; I'm working in an SSH session to a server from a TTY.
[01:47] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[01:47] <KRomo> the linux standard plugin 11.2 wqorks
[01:47] <reisio> Darael: 's'okay I Got it
[01:47] <reisio> Darael: this is a universal problem with nvidia anyways
[01:47] <mattwj2002> there is this linux program called obawix that isn't work
[01:48] <mattwj2002> the main website is offline www.okawix.com
[01:48] <mattwj2002> Service Temporarily Unavailable The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
[01:48] <reisio> other drivers might not even have hardware accel, so it might not be a big deal comparatively
[01:48] <mattwj2002> anyone know if it is permanent or temporary?
[01:48] <reisio> Darael: "Linux users who want to view Flash content will soon have no choice but to do it through Google's Chrome browser." ha, well that will never happen
[01:48] <reisio> typical pcworld cluelessness
[01:48] <Darael> mattwj2002: A "temorarily unavailable" error is usually exactly what it says on the tin.
[01:48] <melodii> i hope flash goes extinct
[01:48] <reisio> in time
[01:48] <simplew> its possible to install ubuntu with BTRFS by default?
[01:49] <reisio> simplew: sure
[01:49] <reisio> simplew: not a particularly sane choice, though
[01:49] <simplew> reisio: encrypted with xts?
[01:49] <Darael> simplew: I've done it myself, but it's painful - fsync() on btrfs is very slow, and dpkg uses a /lot/ of fsync.
[01:49] <LordOfTime> if i found a bug in 12.04 grub bootloader, what package do i file it against?  or do i file upstream?
[01:50] <reisio> "Adobe will continue to provide security updates to the standalone Flash Player 11.2 on Linux for five years after its release, it said." so even less of an issue
[01:50] <cody_> hello
[01:50] <Darael> LordOfTime: Almost certainly grub-pc.
[01:50] <reisio> LordOfTime: the wranglers will know how to file it
[01:50] <reisio> simplew: hrmm?
[01:50] <LordOfTime> reisio:  i *am* one of those wranglers xD
[01:50]  * LordOfTime probably forgot to mention he's on bug squad
[01:51] <simplew> im using BTRFS in mageia and it has been fine
[01:51] <_jeremy_> dvtm
[01:51] <simplew> but i want to change to another distro
[01:51] <Darael> LordOfTime: I would file it against grub-pc (unless you're using, for example, grub-efi), or grub-common if it's a bug likely to be independent of which grub2 it is.
[01:52] <LordOfTime> Darael:  i'll file against what's installed, but meh
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> LordH3lment, what is the bug?
[01:52] <wife> i am everyone's husbands and wives
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> LordOfTime, what is the bug?
[01:53] <Darael> simplew: Well, there should be no problem using btrfs for /home in Ubuntu, and using it for / is possible, but as I mentioned, likely to be very slow when doing package-management stuff.  If you can accept updates taking a *very* long time, go for it.
[01:53] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  double-detection of Win7 loader, one for the main partition, the other for the windows bootloader, both work, but it results in two entries (Win 7 64bit pro on the other OS - dualboot)
[01:54] <Darael> LordOfTime: Ah.  That's os-prober, then, IIRC.
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> LordOfTime, do you have recovery partition?
[01:55] <toph> I'm just trying to get local weather
[01:55] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  OEM drive, the "System Reserved" default partition that windows autoinstalls is also detected on the main partition (C:\)
[01:55] <LordOfTime> Darael:  could file against both... :P
[01:55] <LordOfTime> then it can be invalid'd against whichever one it isnt :P
[01:55] <simplew> Darael:i dont get how would it be painfull, im running btrfs but its a rpm basd distro, maybe thats why i didnt experienced any delays
[01:55] <johnnynobody> hmm, even though i setup my firewall to allow port 53 it still shows closed - the dns server is running - what could be causing this?
[01:55] <Darael> LordOfTime: You could.  It's OS-Prober that does the detection, though.  Update-grub calls it.
[01:55] <LordOfTime> Darael:  i'll file against that
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> LordOfTime, the recovery and the main are commonly show, and some time boot either.
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> shown
[01:56] <toph> I found a script that can pull local weather by zip in a nice format but rather than hard code the zip I'd like to find a way to get it from my ip :)
[01:56] <FoolsRun> Hi, once upon a time I could use the standard fsck command to check an hfsplus volume as long as I installed the hfsutils or hfsprogs (not sure which). Now it seems I have to use fsck.hfsplus to check them, and the checking tool is different. Is it possible to get the old tool back which just used fsck?
[01:56] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  there is no recovery
[01:56] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  win7 autosets up two partitions: Win7 boot loader on one, C:\ on the other
[01:56] <LordOfTime> there is no recovery on OEM installs
[01:56] <LordOfTime> (and i mean OEM, installed it myself)
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> LordOfTime, would you consider running the bootscript out of curiosity?
[01:57] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  can't purge it, it'll "Cannot find ntldr" on windows
[01:57] <Darael> simplew: dpkg, which is used in all the Debian-family distros, uses lots of fsync(), which is very slow on btrfs.  That's a btrfs bug, not a dpkg one, because it does it in order to be /safe/.
[01:57] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  i'm a windows tech too, so i know not to purge those partitions :P
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> LordOfTime, OEM's are also releases from manufacturers they have a recovery.
[01:57] <simplew> Darael: so in your prespective a rpm based distro would slow also?
[01:58] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  if and only if they install it
[01:58] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  i buy bare OEM drives and OEM Windows to install :p
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> LordOfTime, I suspect it is a glitch in the setup not a grub bug but yah never know.
[01:58] <Darael> simplew: I wouldn't know; I'm not familiar with rpm's workings.  It may have an override to not use fsync when running on btrfs or something, which would trade out safety for acceptable speed.
[01:59] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  possibly, but unlikely :P  its still a possible bug, so... *shurgs*
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> !bootinfo | LordOfTime here is the script if you want to take a look
[01:59] <simplew> Darael: i dont think that would be the case, but i need to know better, anyway thanks
[02:00] <Darael> simplew: ...or it may be that rpm just doesn't fsync nearly as much as dpkg.  It's possible to make dpkg fast on btrfs, by installing eatmydata and using it (it essentially sets fsync to a no-op), but that trades out safety for speed.
[02:03] <bjorkintosh> now that i've convinced ubuntu to use my usb card successfully, jackd refuses to use it.
[02:04] <bjorkintosh> i only get output by switching back to my old card.
[02:04] <bjorkintosh> what gives?
[02:06] <kara> How might one find drivers for an original macbook.  Intel GMA 950 I can't find anything useful
[02:08] <chroot> hi, everyone, i want to learn the graphical programming in linux, but i don't know what to start, any advice?
[02:08] <_sjs> what language?
[02:10] <hilo> hello everyone. the NIC in my storage server died last night. there is one onboard the mobo but I cannot get it to work. Can someone help me get that interface working so I can have my storage server back?
[02:10] <techquila> hi all ... can anyone offer any solution to this problem for me please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1990842
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> kara: which macbook?
[02:11] <kara> macbook 1,1
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> kara: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[02:13] <kara> oneric
[02:13] <kara> ActionParsnip: Oneiric
[02:14] <techquila> hilo: does it show up in ifconfig?
[02:14] <usuario> orkut
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> kara: is it a macbook air 1,1?
[02:15] <kara> no. Just macbook
[02:17] <Wingede> ActionParsnip: with the GMA 950 - will either be 1,1 or 2,1
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> Wingede: no idea, I don't use mac rubbish
[02:17] <rebe> how do I change tab size ?
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> kara: can you pastebin the output of:   sudo dmidecode -t 1       thanks
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> rebe: in which app!?
[02:18] <rebe> in ubuntu globaly
[02:19] <rebe> because for example terminal python or tomboy are using 8 spaces tab, and there is no option to change it in those two
[02:19] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: thanks.  dmidecode - never heard of it.  "is  a tool for dumping a computer's DMI (some say SMBIOS) table contents in a human-read‐ able format
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: dead  hamdy, shows bios version so you can see if there is a newer version
[02:20] <kara> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/0LYKGB9j
[02:21] <chsados> i need some major help setting up postfix
[02:21] <mbeierl> chrrot - python is a good language to start with
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> kara: thanks, are you fully updated?
[02:21] <mbeierl> chroot, ^
[02:21] <kara> bios wise?
[02:22] <Chariblaze> Is there a place to go for Intel GMA drivers?
[02:23] <chroot> mbeierl: i want to simulate some event and make simple gui.
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> kara: no, ubuntu
[02:23] <mbeierl> chroot, might want to /join #python and get more info about the language there
[02:24] <kara> ActionParsnip: yes. Ran the update
[02:24] <mbeierl> chroot, python is simple, yet powerful enough that even some games have been written using it
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> kara: what is the issue with the display?
[02:25] <faglnar> is ubuntu.com down?
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> faglnar: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[02:26] <hilo> techquila: it doesn't show at all, only the dead eth0 shows (the pci card is still in the machine but it will not get link lights with known good everything else). If I do "ifconfig -a" I do see the eth1 interface but it has no IP despite link lights being on.
[02:26] <kara> ActionParsnip: No openGL
[02:27] <KRomo> i just switched back to rhythmbox
[02:27] <kara> I'm pretty sure there won't be any 3d support either
[02:28] <hilo> techquila: Also, I tried "ifconfig eth1 up" which executed without complaints. After that, eth1 does show up in a standard "ifconfig" but still with no IP address
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> kara: just just use mac os as it is designed
[02:34] <PAMPAM> ciao
[02:34] <PAMPAM> !list
[02:39] <Studious> hello linux world
[02:40] <techquila> hilo: you want to use dhcp or static?
[02:41] <csioktel> hi, anyone know which sftp(gui) client program support socks5 connection?
[02:41] <techquila> hilo: ifconfig eth1 dhcp up   or ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.1/24 up  (replacing the ip address with one that will fit in your domain/subnet
[02:42] <techquila> hilo: then if you need net access you will need to add dns info to /etc/resolv.conf
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> csioktel: possibly filezilla
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> csioktel: have you tried nautilus?
[02:42] <hilo> techquila: dhcp (but the dhcp hands out static IPs)
[02:43] <techquila> hilo: I'm no ninja but that's how i configure my interfaces with that method
[02:44] <techquila> hilo: hehe.. they are actually dynamically generated and only valid during its lease time
[02:44] <hilo> techquila: is there a switch I need for dhcp? in the format you suggested, I get "dhcp: Host name lookup falure"
[02:44] <csioktel> AcionParsnip: i tried filezilla, and i only found it socks5 for ftp, but can not found sftp.
[02:44] <tr3nton> !ftp
[02:45] <techquila> hilo: did you do the ifconfig eth1 dhcp up? if so and you still get that then you will need to add gateway  like this
[02:45] <hilo> techquila: When I run "ifconfig eth1 dhcp up" I get that error and the command does not execute
[02:46] <techquila> hilo: sorry if you open up /etc/network/interfaces by doing sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[02:47] <hilo> techquila: I have already added the auto eth1 line in my /etc/network/interfaces
[02:48] <hilo> techquila: but it complains when I try to restart networking (/etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:49] <techquila> hilo: sorry i keep hitting the enter key by mistake... look for the line that points to eth1 or create it:  iface eth1 inet static
[02:49] <hilo> techquila: "Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1
[02:49] <techquila> hilo: new line
[02:49] <techquila> hilo: whene did that occur?
[02:50] <techquila> hilo: have you added gateway adress?
[02:50] <hilo> techquila: I think I figured it out...
[02:50] <techquila> hilo: ie address of your router?
[02:51] <Infinity_> I have a problem, I just booted into my Ubuntu 32 bit and my menu bar isn't showing up.
[02:51] <Infinity_> version 12.04, i'm talking about the top and left side bars
[02:52] <hilo> techquila: in my /etc/networking/interfaces file, I had auto eth1 but then referenced eth0 on the next line to enable dhcp
[02:52] <kosko> what package contains python?
[02:52] <techquila> Infinity_: try logging out and logging in again, if that don't work you may not have the hardware to support unity so try loggin out and in with gnome or classic
[02:52] <reisio> python
[02:52] <kosko> reisio: it can't find it upon apt-get install
[02:52] <hilo> techquila: Yeah, changed that and it is all good
[02:52] <hilo> techquila: Thanks!
[02:52] <Infinity_> techquila, i was able to login before with my current hardware
[02:52] <hilo> techquila: wouldn't have noticed that for hours...
[02:53] <techquila> hilo: sweet.. can be a bit of a frustration sometimes this networking bizniz
[02:53] <kosko> reisio: nevermind, i din't notice it was installed
[02:53] <reisio> kosko: ho ho! :D
[02:54] <bluefox83> ok, so i finally got back into my user account, and it's at 400x600 and i get a wierd error when i try to change my display,...it gives a long error in a dialog box and i can't even see the whole thing
[02:54] <bluefox83> something about XRABDR
[02:55] <bluefox83> er, XRandR
[02:55] <kosko> can you imagin dropbox cli version consumes 150mb ram, what a bitch?!
[02:55] <techquila> Infinity_: recent upgrade to 12.04 or you been using 12.04 and this problem just started happening
[02:55] <techquila> ?
[02:56]  * bluefox83 is seriously missing his server box he uses for backups >.>
[02:56] <bot1024> http://mfwc.baidu.com/  click here to help poor children in china.
[02:56] <bluefox83> O.o
[02:56] <bluefox83> how is that bot here?
[02:57] <bot1024> i from china
[02:57] <xangua> bot1024: don't spam please
[02:57] <Infinity_> i recently upgraded to 12.04 about 2 or 3 weeks ago technoviking
[02:58] <bot1024> xangua,  ok..
[02:58] <xangua> Infinity_: did you try reseting unity and compiz¿
[02:58] <techquila> Infinity_: and never had a menu bar since?
[02:58] <Infinity_> no, i just booted in to it today and this happened
[02:58] <bluefox83> brb
[02:59] <techquila> infinity: quick google search reveals this link which may help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127240/missing-launcher-after-12-04-upgrade
[02:59] <bluefox83> that was fun :)
[03:00] <bluefox83> ok...so how do i get gnome to actually work with more than 400x600 resolution? the dang display thingy is useless. i get a random error i don't understand
[03:01] <bluefox83> something about Xrand
[03:01]  * techquila has done some community service now.. anyone care to look at his problem
[03:01] <bluefox83> techquila: whats the problem?
[03:01] <XiRoN> How do I close and unclosable program running on ubuntu server that is taking up 6GB RAM on my host system?
[03:01] <XiRoN> and = an
[03:01] <mikeiee> anyone here good with PHP&MYSQL.
[03:01] <techquila> bluefox83: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1990842
[03:01] <XiRoN> mikeiee: try ##php or ##mysql
[03:02] <bluefox83> XiRoN: ps x then find the pid for the application, then kill -9 pid
[03:02] <mikeiee> i need help ASAP ! and nobody is replying on there
[03:02] <XiRoN> What does -9 do?
[03:02] <XiRoN> Whats the problem mikeiee?
[03:02] <bluefox83> techquila: i don't have a mouse at the moment...i had to hit ctrl alt f1 to chat here with irssi
[03:02] <mikeiee> XiRoN, YOu know PHP & MYSQL/
[03:02] <XiRoN> Yes.
[03:03] <bluefox83> XiRoN: no idea
[03:03] <XiRoN> lol bluefox83
[03:03] <bluefox83> all i know is, it works
[03:03] <UNIXnerd> hello
[03:03] <XiRoN> wow it worked thanks :)
[03:03] <mikeiee> PM XiRoN,
[03:03] <bluefox83> you're welcome
[03:04] <techquila> bluefox83: i'm having issues upgrading my server to 12.04 with do-release-upgrade ... failing to fetch upgrade tool... wget on the address works though
[03:04] <techquila> bluefox83: followed correct upgrade path
[03:04] <bluefox83> hrm, you might try another mirror O.o
[03:04] <bluefox83> techquila: does it give any specific error?
[03:05] <techquila> bluefox83: tried several... its got me stumped... a lot of people have this error over the years with other releases according to the goog
[03:05] <UNIXnerd> my system want me to upgrade to 11.04, i'm on Xubuntu, I have custom grub stuff and settings
[03:05] <UNIXnerd> will I lose any apps/binaries/settings?
[03:06] <techquila> bluefox83: in fact if memory serves me i've had the same issue several times before with prior upgrades..but i'm buggered if I can remember how i overcame it
[03:06] <imnichol> Anyone else having problems purchasing from the Ubuntu Software Center?
[03:06] <Guest96099> I have a question about bitmap files
[03:08] <techquila> UNIXnerd: I wouldn't have thought so unless the apps are no longer supported in the newer release
[03:09] <bluefox83> techquila: i don't recall how to do that...i believe there's a file you need to change that has to do with whether or not to upgrade on releases.
[03:09] <Guest96099> How do I convert a 256 color bitmap file (.bmp) to a 16 color DOS style bitmap (.BMP) using Ubuntu software?
[03:09] <techquila> bluefox83: sorry overlooked your last message.. the error is simply this:, and forgive the paste... you mentioned you couldn't follow links:  sod@theta:/var/www$ sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[03:09] <techquila> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[03:09] <techquila> Err Upgrade tool signature
[03:09] <techquila>   Connection failed
[03:09] <techquila> Get:1 Upgrade tool [5612 kB]
[03:09] <FloodBot1> techquila: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:09] <techquila> Fetched 5612 kB in 0s (0 B/s)
[03:10] <NoNaMeNo> hi, how can I know if network manager is configured to start in each boot? I'm using 12.04 and I have to start nm-applet manually
[03:10] <sacarlson> Guest96099: might try gimp but I never tried change color numbers before
[03:10] <saliak> I'm trying to su to a different user w/out entering their password.  i do have sudo privs.  I type 'sudo su otheruser', but nothing happens.  any suggestions?
[03:10] <Guest96099> I tried Gimp and it failed to produce the needed result
[03:11] <sacarlson> Guest96099: other than going from color to black and white I know it can do that
[03:11] <bluefox83> hrm... i would try changing mirrors in your sources.list and seeing if that helps...
[03:12] <NoNaMeNo> should nm-applet be in startup applications?
[03:12] <Guest96099> This is machdohvah = Michael Flower
[03:12] <Harris> OerHeks,  what is the coolest feature about ubuntu
[03:12] <sacarlson> Harris: that it's free
[03:13] <Harris> oh um i am in yearbook next year and i was told i need to be able to put my head in the hunger games peta melarks body ??? how do i do that
[03:14] <bazhang> Harris, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[03:14] <Harris> using gimp
[03:14] <Guest96099> Incidentally, I tried to install DOS 6.20, Windows 7 and then Ubuntu 12.04... It failed to install!
[03:15] <Harris> Darael,  please give me the code to link the two folders again so that i can put it in my files
[03:16] <techquila> bluefox83: yea i think the file you speak of is the /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades file and the change being to the PROMPT for LTS or NOrmal.. thats unfortunately not the issue here either.  I think i'm gonna have to do a clean install .. i've spent a couple of days trying to get this sorted and i'm just going nowhere... i want to thank you for your assistance though.  :-)
[03:17] <wtf-mike> Guest96099: using gimp go to image->mode->indexed. From there you can set the max colors and select how to optimize
[03:17] <KRomo> wow rhythmbox is friggin amazing....i have it set up with my entire mp3 collection, fav radio stations and podscasts
[03:17] <KRomo> and it works so smooth
[03:18] <Harris> Darael, what was the code
[03:18] <Guest96099> I tried that and it showed a series of blue colors
[03:18] <Guest96099> Should I set the parameter first before loading the BMP?
[03:20] <Harris> anyone know how to link a folder to another
[03:20] <bluefox83> techquila: sorry i wasn't more helpful
[03:21] <bluefox83> this is really pissing me off...grrr
[03:22] <techquila> NoNaMeNo: try this: sudo systemctl enable NetworkManager.service
[03:23] <NoVoteLoss> does anyone use conky on 12.04?
[03:23] <bluefox83> i forget, what is conky/
[03:23] <bluefox83> ?
[03:23] <xangua> !anyone | NoVoteLoss
[03:23] <bluefox83> cus i have it but don't recall what it's for
[03:23] <NoVoteLoss> thanks ubottu, sorry its a system monitor
[03:23] <bluefox83> !conky
[03:23] <Harris> what is the code to symlink a folder
[03:24] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076  NoVoteLoss here's the beginners guide, have a read
[03:24] <bluefox83> Harris:  ln -s
[03:24] <techquila> bluefox83: no worries at all.. can i help you at all?
[03:24] <oich> how can I make the grub boot menu appear at boot in 12.04?
[03:24] <Harris> no
[03:24] <Harris> it was longer
[03:24] <xangua> oich: hold Shift key when you turn on the pc
[03:25] <bluefox83> techquila: i'm having a lot of trouble with my gnome not letting me change resolution
[03:25] <Harris> symlink a folder code
[03:25] <goddard> how do you guys manage multiple versions of wine
[03:25] <bluefox83> it has this bad error that pops up in a dialog
[03:25] <techquila> Harris: bluefox was correct but you have to add the folder paths
[03:25] <oich> xangua thanks
[03:26] <Harris> can you give me the one with target and something else
[03:26] <bluefox83> yeah, i couldn't recall what to call the target and the place you want to put the link
[03:26] <alFReD-NSH> My ubuntu 12.04 is not booting up anymore... It gets stuck on “/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present” and I can't do anything but to restart again
[03:26] <alFReD-NSH> Also yesterday been having this http://askubuntu.com/questions/144623/compiz-configuration-settings-are-not-working problem
[03:27] <alFReD-NSH> Right now, I boot up with ubuntu 10.4 live CD, don't know what to do to take it back
[03:27] <techquila> bluefox83: ... just having a think
[03:28] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: you are waiting for it eh... it takes a min sometimes
[03:28] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: encrypted home directory right?
[03:28] <alFReD-NSH> techquila I saw that before, and used to boot up, but now its not working anymore and gets stuck
[03:28] <Harris> can you give me the code to  symlink a folder it has a target and a link
[03:29] <alFReD-NSH> I can't even recover my home, it says Private directory is not ready
[03:29] <alFReD-NSH> # ecryptfs-mount-private  ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[03:29] <techquila> Harris: ln -s <destination> <linkname>
[03:30] <Harris> thank you techquila
[03:30] <techquila> Harris: my pleasure.
[03:30] <Harris> techquila,  i have another wuestion
[03:30] <bluefox83> techquila: your nickname is making me want some tequila >.>
[03:31] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: new install was it?
[03:31] <alFReD-NSH> techquila: Yes, about a week ago I did
[03:31] <techquila> Harris: go ahead i'll do my best.. i really should get back to coding but lets hear it
[03:32] <techquila> bluefox83: my fav!! had to give up the booze though as my body rejects completely now
[03:32] <KRomo> how can i set default apps for file extentions?
[03:32] <KRomo> i want .nfo files to open in nfo viewer when i double click
[03:32] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: and were you ever able to boot into that sys
[03:32] <Harris> i used the codes Code for installing: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[03:32] <Harris> Code for Enabling:sudo modprobe b43 for getting my wifi to work
[03:33] <Harris> i was told to put b43 at the end of a file and that made it start by default do you know the name of that file
[03:33] <alFReD-NSH> techquila: Yes I saw that message all the time, took a sec to pass it...
[03:34] <alFReD-NSH> Also been playing around with ccsm...
[03:34] <delac> KRomo: right click the file, select properties, select "open with"-tab
[03:34] <XXCoder> wtf
[03:34] <KRomo> nevermind i figured it out
[03:34] <KRomo> delac: thanks :)
[03:34] <XXCoder> when I try gparted it says its not installed
[03:34] <KRomo> i should look b4 i ask
[03:34] <Harris> i used the codes Code for installing: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer Code for Enabling:sudo modprobe b43 for getting my wifi to work techquila
[03:34] <XXCoder> but when I try to run it it says not found
[03:35] <Harris> OerHeks, are you online
[03:37] <techquila> Harris: not too sure what you are asking? you want your wifi active on boot yea?  and its the Broadcom b43 drivers you've installed? and the device works when you enable it yea?
[03:37] <Harris> i found it online
[03:37] <Harris> techquila,  what did you mean by writing code
[03:37] <curiousx> Harris: sudo echo b43 >> /etc/modules
[03:38] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: sounds like posssible corruption..
[03:38] <susanwest> Hello all. When I ssh into ubuntu it tells me "6 packages can be updated". I do "apt-get upgrade installed" and it says not packages to update. what am i doing wrong?
[03:39] <techquila> Harris: i've got a website to finish...
[03:39] <alFReD-NSH> (facepalm) This is the second time happening... :(
[03:39] <Harris> cool you are making a website
[03:39] <techquila> susanwest: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:39] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: check your disk health
[03:40] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: might be time for a new one
[03:40] <Harris> what is the url techquila
[03:40] <susanwest> techquilla: that's it thanks. but how does ubuntu know the packages are out of date if it doesn't yet have the updated package descriptions?
[03:40] <techquila> Harris: its not actually live yet..its on my dev server
[03:41] <Harris> can you teach me
[03:41] <techquila> susanwest: its awfully clever
[03:41] <Harris> how to write code
[03:41] <alFReD-NSH> techquila: Actually last time my disk crashed when I was merging partitions using acronis disk director, making all of my partition to be gone...
[03:42] <bluefox83> holy crap, got it working competely by accident :D
[03:42] <bluefox83> logged into unity and the stinking control display thingy worked without erroring, then logged back into gnome and POOF it's working right >.>
[03:42] <Harris> techquila,  what program do you use
[03:43] <bluefox83> bye folks
[03:43] <techquila> Harris: i do love to teach but i lack the time unfortunately.. i've already wasted far too much time here today... very good at procrastinating.  I can happily point you to some solid references that will get you started for sure... let me write some down for you.
[03:45] <techquila> Harris: I use emacs... the only editor anyone should ever use.. but there is a real steep learning curve ahead of you should you wish to take that path... you won't regret once you get the hang of it tho.. i use it for everything.. i'm even talking to you now through it
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> i dont find the emacs learning curve steap. it just that people  are not used  having to 'learn' how to use a program. :)
[03:46] <Chuck_Norris> i like emacs-nox :D
[03:47] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: i feel for you buddy.. i've had similar things happen over the years... its all experience though.. hope you learnt to back everything up consistently
[03:47] <Chuck_Norris> but i only some little html nothing more :(
[03:47] <Chuck_Norris> but i only code* some....
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> i do rarely use emacs these days. i tend to just do quick edits rarely much more
[03:47] <techquila> Dr_Willis: yea i had no trouble either and most nix
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> i did use some micfro emacs on  my amiga years ago. ;)
[03:48] <techquila> Dr_Willis: 's don't i'd imagine but i'd never recommend anyone from windoze world try
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> i still miss some of the  features the cygnusEd editor had on my amiga
[03:49] <techquila> Dr_Willis: you any good with the elisp
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> never had ti lisp. ;)
[03:49] <alFReD-NSH> techquila: but the SMART thingy doesn't say anything bad about my disk, says its healthy...
[03:49] <techquila> Dr_Willis: bring those features to life again on emacs with elisp
[03:50] <Harris> techquila, how do i learn
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> techquila:  a main feature of the editor and the amiga os was how most apps had a 'rexx port' for scripting and inter-app communication. a bit hard to recreate.
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> alFReD-NSH:  smart data is a good guide, but is not always accurate. sadly
[03:52] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: chdsk from shell
[03:52] <Harris> techquila, how do i download emacs
[03:53] <Harris> what is the code that makes HUD work in libre
[03:53] <Chuck_Norris> Harris: sudo apt-get install emacs-nox
[03:54] <Harris> Chuck_Norris,  it says unable to locate package
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> Harris:  i recall some libreoffice addon/package to  get global menus  working with it.  saw it mentioned at the webupd8 blog site i recall.
[03:54] <Chuck_Norris> sey Harris: sudo apt-get install  emacs23-nox
[03:54] <Chuck_Norris> sry* -.-
[03:54] <alFReD-NSH> techquila: How to to do that?
[03:54] <techquila> Harris: http://www.opera.com/company/education/curriculum/ is a good start if you wish to learn standards based web design  and then http://code.google.com/edu/submissions/html-css-javascript/ ... for coding help there sitepoint.com, or interesting articles there is alistapart.com
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search emacs
[03:54] <xisor> hi, i have a question... is 11 gigs enough space for ubuntu 12.04 and a swap partition? all thats gonna be on it is a web browser and xbmc
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> xisor:  should be.  but watch out for  space filling up
[03:55] <xisor> Dr_Willis: as i said, xbmc is the only thing being added to the default install
[03:55] <xisor> Dr_Willis: xbmc library will grow to about 2 gigs of local storage
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> apt updates can take  a big cache.
[03:56] <xisor> Dr_Willis: just need to know if its enough space
[03:56] <Harris> Dr_Willis, what was the url
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> ive ran full ubuntu installs on 8gb flash drives
[03:56] <xisor> Dr_Willis: ok
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> Harris:  type in webupd8
[03:56] <|cfh|> i have ubuntu on a 6 gig partition and things are well for me
[03:57] <alFReD-NSH> Harris: In case if you wanna do any web dev, make sure you don't go around w3schools site...
[03:57] <xisor> Dr_Willis: i have a 16 ggi Msata SSD in this system, its a micro PC
[03:57] <xisor> Dr_Willis: so it aint got alot of room to spare :D
[03:57] <|cfh|> i just run bleachbit from time to time to clean up bs
[03:57] <|cfh|> :)
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> ive seen my apt cache dir take up 2gb befor. ;)
[03:57] <xisor> Dr_Willis: just picked it up, gonna be my media center XD
[03:57] <Valiant5481> diskless question, can I install softwares to the server I want to boot into. Ex: I want Wine installed so that when the client boots (pxe) they already have wine installed.
[03:57] <bdfoster> So, i just did a clean install of 12.04, rebooted, logged in, and BOOM! mouse on a black background.
[03:57] <xisor> Dr_Willis: its an AMD fusion E450 system, hope its fast enough
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> xisor:  check out 'plex' sometime also
[03:58] <bdfoster> anyone know what the deal is on that?
[03:58] <xisor> 1.66ghz dual core and integrated AMD 6320 GPU and 4 gigs of ram
[03:58] <xisor> HOPE its fast enough
[03:58] <ShadowFios> I'm setting up thunderbird mail client
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | bdfoster
[03:58] <xisor> Dr_Willis: whole system is 5.2 inch x 4.4 inch x .71 inch in size, its REALLY small
[03:58] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: sorry i should have said fschk
[03:59] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, well i can log in just fine
[03:59] <ShadowFios> and I want to set a folder it automatically opens to when the app launches
[03:59] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: fschk /dev/sd?  (replace question mark with your drive)
[03:59] <xisor> Dr_Willis: thanks for the info =) ill be back when my sound doesnt work properly, as im sure it wont rofl
[03:59] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: that will check your filesys.
[04:00] <techquila> then you want to check your harddisk using one of the tools out there
[04:00] <dariush> :)
[04:00] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: badblocks perhaps?
[04:00] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: should be on the goog somewhere
[04:00] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, there is also a mouse on the screen, and it moves
[04:01] <alFReD-NSH> Don't have fschk installing
[04:01] <ShadowFios> I'm setting up thunderbird mail client and I want to set a folder to automatically open to when the app launches
[04:01] <Harris> how can i tell all of the terminal codes i have ever typed and what they did
[04:01] <alFReD-NSH> Though I just recovered my home...
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> Harris:  history command shows your current  'history'
[04:02] <techquila> Harris:  you run x-window?  just go to software sources and find emacs... you want the GNU emacs as opposed to XEMacs... and version 23x
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> ShadowFios:  so you want a single icon toi launch thunderbird and open up a file manager window at a specific location?
[04:02] <Valiant5481> diskless question, can I install softwares to the server I want to boot into. Ex: I want Wine already installed when client boots (pxe).
[04:03] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Can someone recommend a site for checking linux compatibility of motherboards?  I've had someone recommend an Asus P8Z86-V
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> Valiant5481:  should be able to set up the boot enviromenthow youi want. be sort of  useless otherwise
[04:03] <techquila> Harris: be warned.. you will be doing a lot of reading and experimenting in your learning curve.. stick with it though and you will never look back after you've cracked it!
[04:04] <ShadowFios> In thunderbird I have a local folder called 'Incoming'. When the application launches I want it to go to that page instead of the default
[04:04] <Valiant5481> Dr_Willis, will the client have independent file storage within the server?
[04:04] <ShadowFios> 'that page' being Incoming
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> ShadowFios:  you mean IN thunderbird then..
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> Valiant5481:  no idea. i dont use such setups
[04:04] <Harris> techquila, this The GNU Emacs editor (metapackage)
[04:04] <Valiant5481> okay, thanks gonna try diskless =)
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Valiant5481:  normally such things use nfs for a exported home dir i thought
[04:05] <techquila> right everyone.. i'm gonna have to get back into some work.. sorry if there are unreplied questions i gots to pay the bills
[04:05] <techquila> Harris: yup
[04:05]  * techquila wishes you all a great weekend!
[04:05] <Harris> ok thanks how long will it take me to get good and make money
[04:06] <Valiant5481> ah, nfs, thanks a lot
[04:07] <dsnyders> !hardware
[04:07] <techquila> harris... haha how quickly do you learn? how patient are you? are you prepared to put the time in to learn properly?  if so maybe a couple of years ... to do it right that is.. or if you just want a be a hack cowboy.. man you can do it in a day.. haha
[04:07] <techquila> Harris: but the latter will earn you no respect
[04:07] <Harris> techquila, The GNU Emacs editor (metapackage) is not in my dash it finished installing
[04:08] <alFReD-NSH> techquila: I can't umount my harddisk, coz I already mounted my home dir
[04:09] <techquila> Harris: you will need to add it to your dash.. i suspect, with that last statement, that i've just led you down a path of eternal frustration... good luck
[04:09] <Harris> i am starting tomarrow bye
[04:09] <Harris> thanks everyone
[04:09] <Harris> oh
[04:09] <alFReD-NSH> techquila: Should I go for a clean reinstall?
[04:09] <Harris> who knows how to synlink a folder
[04:10] <ShadowFios> In thunderbird I have a local folder called 'Incoming'. When the application launches I want it to go to 'Incoming' instead of the default
[04:11] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: you have a pretty complex issue that i can't really talk you through at this time.  If you are unsure how to mount and unmount filesystems and can afford to lose the data on that disk i would suggest a clean install as the best option.  and consider whether it is really necessary to encrypt your home directory.
[04:11] <alFReD-NSH> Harris: http://bit.ly/KCOqo5
[04:11] <Harris> i want to link my tomboy notes to dropbox
[04:11] <dsnyders> ShadowFios, You may want to try asking that question in one of the thunderbird specific chat rooms.  You might have better luck.
[04:12] <Xpl01t> guys i'm sorry but this new gnome is a really shit
[04:12] <windbuntu> new gnome?
[04:12] <xangua> !language | Xpl01t
[04:12] <Xpl01t> it is annoying
[04:12] <Xpl01t> !language | xangua
[04:12] <Xpl01t> yea
[04:13] <Xpl01t> new gnome
[04:13] <Xpl01t> unity
[04:13] <xangua> Xpl01t: please drop that attitude
[04:13] <Xpl01t> something like that
[04:13] <FloodBot1> Xpl01t: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <Chuck_Norris> Harris: ln -s target-dir/ dir-symlink
[04:13] <windbuntu> i like unity?
[04:13] <Xpl01t> with that new "design" that seems to be like a smartphone
[04:13] <Xpl01t> i cant produce as much as i used to produce with the old gnome
[04:13] <bazhang> !ot | Xpl01t
[04:13] <Chuck_Norris> o sry does it for dirs Harris =P
[04:14] <alFReD-NSH> techquila left :( Anyone else can help with my problem? My ubuntu can't boot up anymore and gets stuck at "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready"
[04:14] <Chuck_Norris> that* is..
[04:14] <ShadowFios> well I'll leave my issue for tommorow
[04:14] <Xpl01t> offtopic?
[04:14] <Xpl01t> that's ubuntu man
[04:14] <bazhang> Xpl01t, yes
[04:14] <Xpl01t> that affects all users
[04:14] <Xpl01t> ppl use ubuntu cuz of gnome
[04:14] <alFReD-NSH> Used to see that before but it passed in seconds, right now it gets stuck in that screen
[04:14] <windbuntu> Xpl01t, you can still use gnome
[04:14] <Xpl01t> if they would like unix and terminal, they would use arch linux
[04:14] <bazhang> Xpl01t, please stop. this is not the chat channel
[04:14] <Xpl01t> chat?
[04:14] <Xpl01t> man!
[04:14] <Xpl01t> i'm complaining
[04:14] <Xpl01t> i'm not chatting with ppl
[04:14] <Harris> how do you sync tomboy notes to dropbox
[04:14] <FloodBot1> Xpl01t: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:15] <Xpl01t> i dont want to chat
[04:15] <xangua> Xpl01t: stop that please, this is Support
[04:15] <bazhang> Xpl01t, wrong channel for complaining
[04:15] <Xpl01t> when i installed ubuntu it told me to come here
[04:15] <Xpl01t> to this channel
[04:15] <Xpl01t> if i would have some issue about ubuntu
[04:15] <Xpl01t> so, that is the issue
[04:15] <alFReD-NSH> Do you guys think is it possible to remove this encryption thingy from home dir?
[04:15] <Xpl01t> how could gnome change that much?
[04:15] <dsnyders> Xpl01t, do you have a question, or are you just blowing off steam?
[04:15] <bazhang> Xpl01t, having an issue is not ranting/complaining
[04:15] <caf4926> Xpl01t: just give it time
[04:15] <Xpl01t> pffff
[04:16] <roasted> Is there a command I can run to restart the mouse/cursor service or whatever? I just magically lost my mouse out of no where.
[04:16] <Chuck_Norris> Xpl01t: i'm already adapted to gnome 3.4
[04:16] <Abhijit> roasted, not sure about this but you may try restaring the x.
[04:17] <Chuck_Norris> the trick is just use the virtual desktops
[04:17] <shimon_net> --------> 1515151 <--------
[04:17] <roasted> Abhijit, I'd like to not lose any open programs. I have several VMs Im installing at once right now.
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> roasted:  perhaps one f the vm's grabbed it andlocked it
[04:17] <Abhijit> roasted, http://askubuntu.com/questions/118001/how-to-restart-only-missing-invisible-mouse-pointer-cursor
[04:17] <dsnyders> Where would be a good site to find  out about a motherboard's linux compatibility ?
[04:17] <Xpl01t> so
[04:17] <Xpl01t> it's the way you treat ppl
[04:18] <Xpl01t> baning and kicking from the channel
[04:18] <Chuck_Norris> Xpl01t: instead of minimizing windows just put windows in separate virtual desktop thats all
[04:18] <Xpl01t> thank you ubuntu comunity!
[04:18] <roasted> Dr_Willis, I wasnt in a VM when it locked in the first place, but the release key isn't working either.
[04:18] <Xpl01t> i thought you were more friendly!!!
[04:18] <roasted> Abhijit, I uh.... I can't click on that link... because I have no mouse.
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> dsnyders:  id say just google for the mb model and 'linux' andlook for problem reports
[04:18] <Xpl01t> man
[04:18] <Xpl01t> i usually work with more than 10 windows
[04:18] <roasted> at best I'm going to alt-tab until I see the VMs completed, then reboot
[04:18] <Xpl01t> how could i separate in 10 virtual desktops?
[04:18] <Xpl01t> thats insane
[04:18] <Chuck_Norris> is not a problem
[04:18] <Xpl01t> what have ppl done with gnome????
[04:18] <Chuck_Norris> you will have so many virtual desktop as you need
[04:18] <Xpl01t> and thank you
[04:18] <brianpWins> On the website theres instruction to setup a usb install on a mac (for a mac) and on windows (for windows) but how do I set up a usb stick on a mac for windows?
[04:18] <bazhang> Xpl01t, thats enough.
[04:18] <roasted> what's wrong with gnome?
[04:18] <Xpl01t> for baning me from the channel!
[04:19] <roasted> works great once you get used to it. unity included.
[04:19] <Xpl01t> i can see that you "welcame" ppl very well here!!!!
[04:19] <Abhijit> roasted, can you go to alt f2?
[04:19] <roasted> yes, we welcame everyone
[04:19] <reisio> roasted: most people liked it as it was at version 2, you see
[04:19] <reisio> people in general are usually conservative
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> Xpl01t:  stick to the problem. less ranting
[04:19] <roasted> Abhijit, yes
[04:19] <netmk> Xpl01t: relax dude/
[04:19] <Xpl01t> man
[04:19] <Xpl01t> that is shitty
[04:19] <Xpl01t> i cant see the windows i'm working
[04:19] <roasted> Abhijit, anything keyboard related I can get to (THANK GOD FOR HUD)
[04:19] <Abhijit> roasted, type this gksudo modprobe -r psmouse
[04:20] <Xpl01t> cant know if they are minimized
[04:20] <JoseeAntonioR> Xpl01t: Please, stop it.
[04:20] <bazhang> Xpl01t, last warning. this is support only. not ranting complaining etc
[04:20] <Chuck_Norris> Xpl01t: gnome shell already have a lot of extensions that could helps you
[04:20] <Xpl01t> only by a color diference
[04:20] <Xpl01t> cant see the titles
[04:20] <roasted> Abhijit, in alt f2? or runt hat in terminal?
[04:20] <Abhijit> roasted, alt f2 is the terminal
[04:20] <Xpl01t> if you open 2 ou 3 firefox or gedit windows
[04:20] <alFReD-NSH> Anyone know  How to Remove an Encrypted Private Directory Setup from live cd?
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> Xpl01t:  we can understand complete sentances also. no need to hit enter every 4 words
[04:20] <Xpl01t> its a headache to select the one you want
[04:20] <roasted> Abhijit, just wanted to make sure. when Im in alt f2 I can't see xchat to see the command. :D
[04:20] <Harris> ow do i sync tomboy notes to dropbox
[04:21] <Xpl01t> wtf
[04:21] <Xpl01t> how can i change that?
[04:21] <Abhijit> alFReD-NSH, if you have the key then just login to that directory and copy content to somewhere else?
[04:21] <Harris> when i change the path it always goes right back
[04:21] <Xpl01t> is there a way to use KDE instead gnome?
[04:21] <Xpl01t> cuz gnome is a shit now
[04:21] <roasted> Abhijit, got some output back. looks almost like a man page with some commands listed.
[04:21] <FloodBot1> Xpl01t: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <roasted> ban please
[04:21] <Xpl01t> i dont want to use gnome if it keep that new design
[04:21] <bazhang> Xpl01t, watch the language. dont use enter as punctuation
[04:21] <Abhijit> roasted, are you sure you are in ALT 2?
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> Xpl01t:  install kde if youi want kde. its in the repos
[04:21] <roasted> Abhijit, no, terminal
[04:21] <Chuck_Norris> no, just move your cursor to the top left corner and you will see all your windows applications
[04:21] <Harris> can someone please tell me where are tomboy notes stored
[04:21] <bazhang> !notunity | Xpl01t
[04:21] <Abhijit> roasted, bah. no problem. terminal will also do. type that commond in terminal
[04:21] <Chuck_Norris> Xpl01t: and you can select what ever you want
[04:22] <si32> when your laptop does not power off automatically when you go to shut down there is something you can do to fix this; anybody know how? or where the directions are to put in some sort of quarks mode?
[04:22] <roasted> reminds me of G J wentworth commercials. It's my gnome and I want it NOW
[04:22] <roasted> Abhijit, k, just looks like the end of a man page though
[04:22] <Xpl01t> i've installed that gnome shell yestarday
[04:22] <netmk> Xpl01t: also, you could learn the hotkeys to quickly swap to different windows and workspaces
[04:22] <Xpl01t> now it's hard to create a simple shortcut
[04:22] <Harris> i need to sync my tomboy notes with my dropbox account
[04:22] <jotaxpe> hi speak spanish?
[04:22] <Chuck_Norris> Xpl01t: and, like ubottu told ya there is a lot of desktop enviroments that you can try
[04:22] <bazhang> jotaxpe, #ubuntu-es
[04:22] <Xpl01t> and to open admin utilitaries (like process manager, etc)
[04:22] <Abhijit> Harris, may be in ~/.config
[04:23] <jotaxpe> ;)
[04:23] <JoseeAntonioR> !es | jotaxpe
[04:23] <roasted> You've used Gnome Shell since yesterday, whcih clearly means you haven't used it enough to get used to it.
[04:23] <Abhijit> roasted, man page? what are you doing? just type that command?
[04:23] <Harris> how do i sync tomboy notes with dropbox
[04:23] <Harris> please
[04:23] <roasted> Use it more. Give it a time. Get usedt o it.
[04:23] <alFReD-NSH> Abhijit: I already have recovered it my home directory, just asking how to make not be encrypted anymore... That is not letting me boot up
[04:23] <Chuck_Norris> Xpl01t: no it isn't just do:  gnome-desktop-item-edit ~/Desktop/ --create-new
[04:23] <roasted> Abhijit, yes
[04:23] <Xpl01t> and one more time i have to say: thank you for baning me
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> Xpl01t:  never had any issues. there are indicator-applets thatgive you the old classic gnome menus in unity and gnome-shell
[04:23] <roasted> Abhijit, fyi I'm on a laptop if it matters
[04:24] <Xpl01t> i came here to express my opinion because it's on the installationg readme.txt that i could come here and talk to the ubuntu comunity
[04:24] <Abhijit> roasted, ok executed the command? then now run gksudo modprobe psmouse
[04:24] <Xpl01t> and i can see that you dont welcome everyone that comes here
[04:24] <reisio> Xpl01t: ah, that reminds me
[04:24] <Xpl01t> i felt very upset with your behavior
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> Xpl01t:  expressing oponions is not support.. and wpould be for  the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.
[04:24] <JoseeAntonioR> Xpl01t: As mentioned before, this is a support channel.
[04:24] <bazhang> Xpl01t, it is offtopic. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic this is support only not complaints dept
[04:24] <Harris> how do i sync tomboy notes with dropbox
[04:24] <xangua> Xpl01t: not with that attitude, please drop it
[04:24] <Abhijit> Xpl01t, do you have constructive suggestions for ubuntu?
[04:25] <bazhang> !brainstorm | Xpl01t
[04:25] <Abhijit> :-(
[04:25] <roasted> Abhijit, didn't seem to do anything
[04:25] <roasted> Abhijit, eh, I'll just reboot once these VMs are done installing
[04:25] <xilian> hello
[04:25] <roasted> thankfully I have ALT + TAB yet
[04:25] <Xpl01t> yea i have a constructive suggestion: just stop using that new gnome or migrate to KDE as default
[04:25] <Abhijit> roasted, is that a usb mouse?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> Xpl01t:  thats not going to  happen.
[04:25] <roasted> Abhijit, not sure. It's a laptop.
[04:25] <Abhijit> ok
[04:26] <Abhijit> roasted, ok then try restarting later on
[04:26] <Chuck_Norris> aloha xangua :D
[04:26] <Abhijit> Harris, http://lifehacker.com/5302854/synchronize-tomboy-notes-with-dropbox
[04:26] <roasted> Abhijit, appreciate the try though!
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> wasent there some replacements for tomboy in the  12.04? or in  the works? i liked topboys U1 sync feature. but  dont use it anymore
[04:27] <Chuck_Norris> Dr_Willis: ye
[04:27] <Chuck_Norris> i got one called "Gpaste"
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> !info  gpaste
[04:28] <Chuck_Norris> is a gnome shell extension
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> id likeone that  could sync tothecloud andhave a decent  android  client  also
[04:28] <JoseeAntonioR> Dr_Willis: Ubuntu One?
[04:28] <XiRoN> How can I install libnet0-dev on ubuntu?
[04:28] <WFPKHC> Hello world....
[04:28] <JoseeAntonioR> XiRoN: sudo apt-get install libnet0-dev
[04:29] <Abhijit> dr_jesus, gnote
[04:29] <XiRoN> Nah dont work
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> !info  gnote
[04:29] <Chuck_Norris> Dr_Willis: i'll show ya mah Gpaste: http://i.imgur.com/BwkZQ.png
[04:29] <Abhijit> Dr_Willis, gnote
[04:29] <Abhijit> of we are having another doctor here!
[04:29] <windbuntu> is unity even based on gnome or is it its own stand alone desktop?
[04:29] <XiRoN> JoseeAntonioR: dont work
[04:29] <JoseeAntonioR> !info libnet0-dev
[04:29] <Abhijit> windbuntu, unity is shell for gnome desktop
[04:29] <windbuntu> ok Abhijit
[04:29] <XiRoN> !info libnet
[04:29] <XiRoN> !info lib
[04:30] <Chuck_Norris> !info Chuck Norris =P
[04:30] <JoseeAntonioR> XiRoN: Seems like it's not in the repositories. You can install it with a deb file, or compiling it from source
[04:30] <bazhang> XiRoN, /msg ubottu
[04:30] <Xpl01t> do you see how you treat ppl?
[04:30] <Xpl01t> i had to use a new proxy
[04:30] <Xpl01t> just to return here
[04:30] <XiRoN> JoseeAntonioR: How?
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> actually i think  we have been very  patient andkind with mr. xpl01t
[04:31] <reisio> not me, I wasn't involved
[04:31] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, setting 'nomodeset' doesnt change anything. but upon closer inspection (before i changed it), i log in, it shows the desktop background, then shortly after it goes to a black screen with a mouse. maybe a graphics card/unity issue?
[04:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> Hello everybody. I'm interested in building a new rig and I was wondering if anybody with a UEFI-based board has had trouble getting Ubuntu installed.
[04:31] <Chuck_Norris> ye
[04:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> I've been kind of worried about being locked into a system where I can't disable secureboot.
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  could be  a unity setting also. this  acleaninstall  or  a upgrade?
[04:31] <bdfoster> clean install
[04:31] <JoseeAntonioR> XiRoN: Let me ask you, which version are you using?
[04:32] <brianpWins> can i just drag the .iso on my mac to a usb stick (fat-32 formatted) plug it into the pc and boot from it ?
[04:32] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: that's unlikely to be an issue, even when they start shipping
[04:32] <si32> does anybody know the guy who linus uses to fix his new laptop issues?
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> Sir_Fawnpug:  i dident think  secureboot was  a feature  that was out  yet.
[04:32] <Abhijit> brianpWins, no
[04:32] <Abhijit> !usb | brianpWins
[04:32] <si32> * hint: i think he lives in australia ....
[04:32] <reisio> si32: his wife is a martial artist
[04:32] <XiRoN> JoseeAntonioR: 11.04?
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> brianpWins:  no.thst wont work. use a tool toput theiso on the  USBproperly
[04:32] <si32> reisio: what does that have to do with it?
[04:32] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, I have seen a bunch of AMD boards with UEFI, wasn't sure if it had shipped. I suppose I should call the manufacturer just to make sure.
[04:32] <reisio> si32: puh!
[04:33] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: UEFI and secure boot aren't the same thing
[04:33] <brianpWins> Abhijit: that does not explain the mac to pc process. that explains mac for mac and pc for pc not mac for pc
[04:33] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, clean install. had windoze on it before
[04:33] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: neither are anything to be worried about
[04:33] <Abhijit> brianpWins, ammm??? what you want to do?
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  what video  card?
[04:33] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, I understand that. I was asking because I know it's a feature that's supposed to ship with UEFI boards.
[04:33] <brianpWins> i'm using a mac to make the usb stick. then installing with the usb stick on a pc
[04:33] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: what were you asking, again?
[04:33] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, uh, it's a nvidia card, i can get more specific if need be
[04:34] <Abhijit> brianpWins, if there is dd command for mac and if there is unetbootin for mac then procedure is same
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  you did  install thenvidia drivers?
[04:34] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, I suppose what I was asking is if I am likely going to run into the secureboot issue with the UEFI boards that are already out.
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> brianpWins:  check the pendrrivelinux site forothermac toolsand guides.
[04:34] <paulus68> I want to create a useraccount for doing backup purposes only how do I achieve this? don't need to have a home directory and other standard stuff for this user
[04:34] <JoseeAntonioR> XiRoN: The package is no longer in the repositories, you won't be able to install it unless you get the source from a webpage.
[04:34] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, I didn't install them, dunno if it was done in the install process
[04:35] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: you could but it's unlikely
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  try 'sudo apt-get install  nvidia-current'and see
[04:35] <XiRoN> JoseeAntonioR: How can I do that, I'm very new to linux
[04:35] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: what you'd want to keep an eye out is for things labelled 'Made for Microsoft Windows 8' or something to that effect
[04:35] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, ahh, then that's good news.
[04:35] <WFPKHC> where may i get the iso for ubuntu dvd iso?
[04:35] <Harris> tomboy lens for ubuntu 12.04
[04:35] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: to have such a boast associated with a product they're required to use secure boot
[04:35] <Abhijit> WFPKHC, ubuntu.com
[04:35] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: without such a boast they are under no such obligation to Microsoft
[04:35] <JoseeAntonioR> XiRoN: You would have to search for the package in google, for example
[04:35] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, right, I know that the x86 certification program requires a way to get rid of it.
[04:36] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, already installed and current.
[04:36] <reisio> they aren't really out yet anyways, the Windows 8 tablets
[04:36] <WFPKHC> Thank you for that response - is there someone who could provide me with another answer?
[04:36] <Harris> is the tomboy lens available for ubuntu 12.04
[04:36] <reisio> and the Android tablets are always going to be cheaper
[04:36] <reisio> and more likely to be supported by Linux drivers out of the box
[04:36] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, ahh, well I'm definitely avoiding the ARM hardware. I'm probably going to get an RPI or Beagleboard instead.
[04:36] <JoseeAntonioR> WFPKHC: releases.ubuntu.com
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  as a test you  could make  a  new user. see if  they  have the same  issue.also youmay  wan tto try  some alternative desktop like  lubuntu   untill you figure out whats going on with unity.
[04:37] <Sir_Fawnpug> That is Windows 8 ARM hardware.
[04:37] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: those are ARM, IIRC
[04:37] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: oh :)
[04:37] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, yeah, I don't mind ARM itself.
[04:37] <WFPKHC> thank you i will try that
[04:37] <Chuck_Norris> bdfoster: click in the Dash and write: nvidia
[04:37] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: yeah you won't find any issues on such conscientious offerings
[04:37] <Sir_Fawnpug> Just the hardware under the Windows 8 certification program.
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  ive heard of others with a simile r issue. it maybe  some config  file needs removied. but i never noticed an exact fix for  theissue.
[04:37] <bdfoster> Chuck_Norris, there is no dash homey
[04:37] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: it'll just be Windows 8 tablets, some of them, and possibly some Apple ones in future
[04:37] <paulus68> I want to create a useraccount for doing backup purposes only how do I achieve this?
[04:37] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: and of course it'll only be an issue before people figure out how to work around it :p
[04:38] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, same effect on a new user
[04:38] <Chuck_Norris> bdfoster: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:38] <JoseeAntonioR> !patience | paulus68
[04:38] <bdfoster> Chuck_Norris, no...
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  you  may want to try to install  the gnome-shell and  see if it or the gnome fallbackmodes work also.
[04:38] <Abhijit> paulus68, http://askubuntu.com/questions/29359/how-to-add-user-without-home
[04:38] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, haha, well I suppose I'm not hedging my bets on it. I'd rather work with unencumbered software anyway, I'm playing around with OS dev, and I'd like to... you know... be able to boot my kernel, haha
[04:38] <paulus68> Abhijit: thanks
[04:38] <reisio> yeah
[04:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> So RPI and BeagleBone are definitely peices of hardware I'm going to buy.
[04:39] <reisio> not sure what you'll get out of both
[04:39] <chosendescent> hi
[04:39] <reisio> besides just variety of experience
[04:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> Cheap development platforms, really.
[04:39] <reisio> I mean out of getting each :)
[04:39] <reisio> but hey they're cheap
[04:39] <WFPKHC> is there a place where i can download the entire ubuntu iso? not desktop or server but the whole thing?
[04:39] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, is there a unity 2d?
[04:39] <chosendescent> Just installed Ubuntu over Win 8
[04:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> Both are pretty enticing, they have a lot of I/O exposed IIRC.
[04:39] <bdfoster> as opposed to a 3d?
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  yep.  that maybe worth  tryingalso
[04:39] <reisio> I was going to get a raspberry pi, but the availability makes the low cost less effective :p
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> !info unity-2d
[04:40] <reisio> chosendescent: gj
[04:40] <JoseeAntonioR> WFPKHC: What do you mean by the whole thing?
[04:40] <Sir_Fawnpug> Right, the low availability is the kicker.
[04:40] <Abhijit> WFPKHC, what do you mean by the whole thing? all the software packages?
[04:40] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, thx!
[04:40] <reisio> $25/$35 is great, but only if you can get one easily
[04:40] <reisio> I got my email about the second batch, but, it's kind of spoiled it for me :p
[04:40] <reisio> in a year or two, though, there'll be no such issues, and more competitors, and lower prices
[04:40] <chosendescent> Thanks reisio just been trying out all the different OS on netbook to see what works best Win 8 = suck!!!
[04:40] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, I remember VIA working on a similar board, not sure how hacker friendly it's going to be.
[04:41] <reisio> chosendescent: don't like the metro? :p
[04:41] <WFPKHC> well in another linux distro they have a dvd version that is 3.6gb
[04:41] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, looks like it's already installed, is there a way to disable the 3d stuff?
[04:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> But it'd make an interesting target
[04:41] <chosendescent> dont like anything about it
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  seelct unity  2d at the  loginscreen
[04:41] <JoseeAntonioR> WFPKHC: "the whole thing" is in the Desktop CD
[04:41] <bdfoster> cool
[04:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> I can see thin client written all over it.
[04:41] <bdfoster> alright gonna try
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> bbl.. got a job  to do
[04:41] <JoseeAntonioR> WFPKHC: the operating system is in there
[04:41] <reisio> chosendescent: did you like 7?
[04:41] <WFPKHC> if i download the desktop version can i install server software on it?
[04:41] <reisio> WFPKHC: yup
[04:41] <Harris> i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:42] <WFPKHC> will there be any difference in performance?
[04:42] <chosendescent> Not really I basically stopped liking windows after xp
[04:42] <reisio> WFPKHC: the only difference between them is the default config/preinstalled software
[04:42] <frankz> ue faccie di cazzo vi ammazzo la famiglia
[04:42] <reisio> WFPKHC: yes, but not that you'll notice as a human
[04:42] <JoseeAntonioR> WFPKHC: Yes, as long as you forward all ports correctly it'll work
[04:42] <JoseeAntonioR> !it |  frankz
[04:42] <paulus68> Abhijit: this backup user I want to create does only need to have access through ssh and nothing else what is the best option here to create this user?
[04:43] <WFPKHC> what if i dont have an amd processor but 64bit intell?
[04:43] <reisio> paulus68: useradd, done
[04:43] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:43] <chosendescent> Last time I tried linux it was a freaking kernel command prompt lol
[04:43] <reisio> WFPKHC: what if you don't
[04:43] <frankz> MA SUKA COGLIONE FACCIA DI CAZZO
[04:43] <reisio> chosendescent: which distro?
[04:43] <reisio> frankz: obviously
[04:43] <Abhijit> paulus68, i think thats mentioned in that thread. it do not give access through ssh. read it carefully.
[04:43] <chosendescent> The penquin
[04:43] <JoseeAntonioR> WFPKHC: then go for the 64 bit version, it's just a generic name that stuck with it
[04:43] <Sir_Fawnpug> WFPKHC, what exactly are you asking?
[04:43] <frankz> obviosly your mother SUX MY DICK
[04:43] <frankz> FUACK U
[04:44] <Sir_Fawnpug> These days amd64 and x86_64 are synonymous
[04:44] <WFPKHC> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ so if i download  ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso   it will work with my computer?
[04:44] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:44] <reisio> oh right :p
[04:44] <JoseeAntonioR> !language | frankz
[04:44] <reisio> well it's genericized now
[04:44] <Sir_Fawnpug> WFPKHC, as long as it implements x86_64, yeah.
[04:44] <reisio> WFPKHC: yes, amd64 was the original name, we don't rename things in Unix land
[04:44] <frankz> yeah i like your mother language AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO A
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[04:44] <FloodBot1> frankz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:44] <Sir_Fawnpug> Aww, we made him bored.
[04:45] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:45] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:45] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:45] <FloodBot1> Harris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:45] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD64
[04:45] <paulus68> reisio: since this user is getting access to ssh localy want to create keyfiles in order to allow this user to scp files from 1 pc to the server
[04:45] <reisio> paulus68: so create key files
[04:45] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:45] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:45] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:45] <xangua> !repeat | Harr
[04:45] <xangua> aggg
[04:45] <Harris> who is harr
[04:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> !ops
[04:45] <paulus68> reisio: are there any pros and cons to this procedure?
[04:45] <xangua> Harris: stop that please
[04:45] <frankz23> AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCU
[04:46] <goddard> how do i reload my bashrc?
[04:46] <Harris> bazhang,  how are you a op
[04:46] <reisio> paulus68: you could do it in a matter of minutes and undo it in the same
[04:46] <Sir_Fawnpug> goddard, source ~/.bashrc
[04:47] <paulus68> reisio:
[04:47] <paulus68> reisio: ok
[04:47] <Harris> bazhang,  how are you an op
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[04:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> Thank you, elky.
[04:48] <Harris> elky, how are you op
[04:48] <bazhang> Harris, please stop
[04:48] <Harris> stop what? how are you op
[04:48] <vn> hmm I'm just done installing ubuntu and I cannot click like 10% of links and buttons...any ideas?
[04:48] <vn> Harris: that means stop repeating the same question
[04:49] <elky> Harris, people get to be ops by being around a long time and knowing lots of things.
[04:49] <vn> and earning respect
[04:49] <Harris> who gives you ops
[04:49] <Sir_Fawnpug> You guys have an insane amount of patience.
[04:49]  * WFPKHC sits quietly in the corner while he waits for the ISO to download*
[04:49] <vn> other ops
[04:50] <Harris> can i have ops
[04:50] <vn> no.
[04:50] <kandinski> I have installed jython 2.5.2 on /opt/jython. How do I get ubuntu to recognise this as my main jython for running programs
[04:50] <Harris> why not
[04:50] <kandinski> Harris, I am only a regular user and I vote no too
[04:50] <kandinski> Harris, because you are acting like a pest
[04:51] <itamar_> oi
[04:51] <itamar_> tudo bem ai
[04:51] <itamar_> amigo
[04:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> !es
[04:51] <MrKeuner> hello, my ssh client warns me for all my servers today, is there an openssh change?
[04:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> (I think?)
[04:51] <JoseeAntonioR> !pr |  itamar_
[04:51] <kandinski> Sir_Fawnpug: that was portuguese
[04:51] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[04:51] <xangua> !pt | itamar_
[04:51] <itamar_> sim
[04:51] <itamar_> yes
[04:51] <xangua> Sir_Fawnpug: missed
[04:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, whoopsy. I have trouble telling the romance languages apart.
[04:52] <itamar_> estou testando esse xat
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[04:52] <kandinski> itamar_: vante botar fora
[04:52] <kandinski> wtf
[04:52] <itamar_> ok
[04:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> I never studied spanish, french, or latin in high school.
[04:53]  * WFPKHC ponders if the channel OP would be kind enough to IP ban the people spamming the channel*
[04:53] <kandinski> WFPKHC: 06:52 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+q *!*@87.18.86.116] by FloodBot1
[04:53] <kandinski> they are IP-hopping
[04:53] <WFPKHC> they can do that?
[04:53] <elky> WFPKHC, we are. they keep changing where they connect from
[04:53] <JoseeAntonioR> WFPKHC: What they're doing is called banevict.
[04:53] <Sir_Fawnpug> WFPKHC, sure, they could be using a proxy or something.
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[04:53] <elky> cs k frk3232
[04:54] <Harris> !ops
[04:54] <Tm_T> Harris: yes?
[04:54] <WFPKHC> k ...was just pondering is all...
[04:54] <xangua> Harris: really, stop that
[04:54] <kandinski> ok, I don't normally repeat questions so fast, but since everybody is distracted with the zombie apocalypse...
[04:54] <Harris> sorry i want to see if elky was because it said it took heres
[04:54] <kandinski> I have installed jython 2.5.2 on /opt/jython. How do I get ubuntu to recognise this as my main jython for running programs?
[04:54] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:55] <Sir_Fawnpug> What I have learned about elky is that s/he is a magical elk.
[04:55] <Harris> bazhang can you answer my question
[04:56] <glb> hi
[04:56] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, jython is Java, yeah?
[04:56] <glb> mkpart fs-type start end, Can parted like fdisk, use +1G instead of caculating the end manual at first?
[04:56] <glb>  
[04:56] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, in that case, you need to set your classpath to include the jython jar.
[04:56] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:56] <elky> If that gets anyone who is not frank, please come talk to us in #ubuntu-ops and we'll sort an exemption
[04:57] <Harris> if what gets anyone
[04:57] <elky> Harris, something you need to stop paying attention to.
[04:57] <kandinski> Sir_Fawnpug: I exported the modified PATH so: $ export PATH=$PATH:/opt/jython/bin
[04:57] <JoseeAntonioR> elky: Thank you so much for helping to sort this out
[04:57] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note what app can
[04:58] <kandinski> yes, thanks elky
[04:58]  * WFPKHC drums fingers on the table top while i wait for ISO to download*
[04:58] <Sir_Fawnpug> You are our elkish hero.
[04:58] <kandinski> Harris, don't repeat the same question, if you don't get an answer is because nobody can answer at this point
[04:58] <goddard> Sir_Fawnpug: thanks
[04:59] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, I think I know what you mean after looking at jython's webpage now.
[04:59] <Sir_Fawnpug> Is there anything in /opt/jython/bin?
[04:59] <Sir_Fawnpug> goddard, did it work?
[04:59] <goddard> ya
[04:59] <kandinski> Sir_Fawnpug: yes, the previously installed ubuntu-stock jython
[04:59] <goddard> Sir_Fawnpug: another issue i ran into was i was using sudo
[05:00] <goddard> that doesn't use my .bashrc right
[05:00] <Harris> i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note what app can
[05:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> goddard, you mean if you sudo -i?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> how are you ysing sudo
[05:00]  * kandinski deinstalls jython like a champ, see if that works
[05:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> goddard, it shouldn't, it should probably use the bashrc of the target user (probably root)
[05:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> goddard, if you want to make your changes global, make them in /etc/profile
[05:00] <parallel> sdf
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> harris  so what should it be liading in?
[05:01] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, weirdness; did you try tab completion and everything?
[05:01] <blaxxo> !help
[05:01] <Harris> what is liading in
[05:01] <goddard> Sir_Fawnpug: i was updating DEBFULLNAME and DEBEMAIL
[05:01] <kandinski> Sir_Fawnpug: yes, but it runs jython 2.5.1 (the stock jython from ubuntu), not 2.5.2 (the one I installed in /opt/jython)
[05:02] <Harris> is ubotto fake
[05:02] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, oh, well /opt/jython/bin needs to be at the head of the path.
[05:02] <def_an_idiot> I just installed flex-doc using the apt package manager. Is there a way to see where the documentation is installed.I tried "whereis" it didn't work
[05:02] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, $PATH gets searched from left to right
[05:02] <kandinski> Sir_Fawnpug: oh sure, thanks
[05:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> goddard, are those env vars?
[05:03] <kandinski> Sir_Fawnpug: and you were wright
[05:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, I can't fault you, it's late, haha
[05:03] <kandinski> though I need to export the path in my .bashrc now
[05:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> Well at least here, I'm not sure where you live.
[05:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> It's late somewhere in the world.
[05:04] <kandinski> 3pm here in Melbourne, Australia
[05:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> Oh, well the water in your toilets spin backwards when you flush them, then.
[05:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> Or so I've been told.
[05:04] <kandinski> you mean it spins the right way
[05:04] <kandinski> it spins backwards in the old countries
[05:04] <Harris> you should op oerherks
[05:05] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, at any rate, I've made that mistake before.
[05:05]  * WFPKHC drums fingers on the table top while i wait for ISO to download*
[05:05] <Harris> elky,  i am sorry will you unban me
[05:06] <windbuntu> Harris, you can create your own channel and promote yourself to op.
[05:06] <goddard> Sir_Fawnpug: yeah
[05:06] <Harris> elky,  please unban me i am sorry
[05:06] <elky> Harris, only if you promise to not join there
[05:06] <Harris> i will only join if emergncy
[05:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> goddard, you might try exporting those vars
[05:07]  * kandinski chuckles at the drama
[05:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> Like export DEBFULLNAME
[05:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> I think those will get propogated to the shell that sudo creates.
[05:07] <kandinski> thanks guys, time to take the girls to the park!
[05:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, have a good time.
[05:07] <goddard> anyone know how I can get wine1.5 source?
[05:07] <goddard> with apt-get
[05:08] <xangua> !source | goddard
[05:09] <goddard> xangua: yeah but there is only 1.4 i think
[05:09] <goddard> trying to get 1.5..
[05:09] <xangua> goddard: if it's not in repository download the source from it's official web
 If that gets anyone who is not frank, please come talk to us in #ubuntu-ops and we'll sort an exemption
[05:13] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note what app can
[05:13] <elky> Harris, are you trying to get banned from here too?
[05:13] <Harris> no
[05:14] <Harris> i justed wanted to see what the op channel was like
[05:14] <Harris> it was cool
[05:14] <goddard> found the wine ppa that will work
[05:14] <Harris> in two days will you un bann me
[05:14] <Harris> please i learned my leason i have to earn that channel
[05:14] <Harris> :(
[05:15] <Harris> elky
[05:15] <paulus68> Harris I don't think that your current behavior will give you these advantages very soon
[05:16] <mikejf> I've got an x86_64 Ubuntu 12.04 install, and am trying to install a Java app that requires Sun Java (grumble) so I tried to use the script from https://github.com/flexiondotorg/oab-java6 but that's failing because theres some packages it can't install, the main one that stood out to me was ia32-libs, when I tried to install that via apt-get, I'm getting some weird errors with many mentions of i386.
[05:16] <kara> if im missing X11/Xauth.h where might i acquire this package?
[05:17] <paulus68> the current OPS are here for ages and they practicly sleep in this room
[05:18] <rick__> cant find how to enable the battery indicator on Luninux os installed on my toshiba sattelite
[05:18] <bazhang> rick__, hows that related to ubuntu
[05:19] <rick__> i thought luninux was Ubuntu based?
[05:19] <intok> GParted doesn't support writing zeros to an entire drive?
[05:19] <goddard> i think there is like Lubuntu or something
[05:19] <bazhang> rick__, its not supported here though, try to search for their irc channel using alis
[05:20] <bazhang> !alis | rick__
[05:20] <rick__> ok....srry....in wrong place
[05:21] <kara> if im missing X11/Xauth.h where might i acquire this package?
[05:23] <jfbarthe> quit
[05:24] <goddard> anyone have a newer Intel processor upgrade to the new kernel?
[05:24] <goddard> notice a difference?
[05:25] <reisio> goddard: they probably noticed a distinct lack of old kernel exploits working :p
[05:27] <goddard> haha oh ya?
[05:27] <goddard> seriously i heard they added some good optimizations for newer intel cpus
[05:27] <goddard> less exploits you say?
[05:31] <reisio> you didn't specify what version you came from
[05:32] <reisio> just a general rule, security issues are addressed by updating
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> is it possible to encrypt an usb so any Os can't read it?
[05:38] <reisio> lotuspsychje: mmm, well you could easily include the software for decrypting it on a non-encrypted portion
[05:38] <reisio> truecrypt is cross platform
[05:38] <reisio> you might look for something else that is, though
[05:38] <reisio> dubious origins, truecrypt
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> reisio: so after truecrypting an usb you cannot read from lets say win7?
[05:39] <reisio> lotuspsychje: oh so any OS _can't_ read it?
[05:39] <reisio> encrypted is encrypted
[05:39] <reisio> you need the pass/key to read it
[05:39] <reisio> regardless of OS
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> interesting
[05:39] <reisio> unless the algorithm is so outdated that you can brute force it
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> reisio:also for getdataback software on other Os?
[05:40] <root__> hello
[05:40] <reisio> getdataback software is for recovering data that 1) wasn't encrypted and 2) wasn't actually deleted (merely dereferenced)
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> reisio: ok tnx mate
[05:42] <reisio> lotuspsychje: now there are various approaches to obtaining an encryption key, but one must have it to decrypt modern encryption
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> reisio:modern?
[05:42] <reisio> someone could place a covert hardware keylogger on your system, or a software logger, or break into your box and steal your RAM, etc.
[05:42] <reisio> modern, any implementation you'd find available today
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> reisio: oh ic
[05:42] <reisio> the older a scheme gets the more vulnerable it is to brute force
[05:43] <reisio> because computers can crunch more numbers faster every day, for less
[05:43] <pbx2> for the hardware keylogger they have to come back to collect the data though
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> reisio: im also always kinda paranoia about 'security' cause new tricks every day
[05:43] <reisio> mmhmmm
[05:43] <reisio> but to really be worried about such things, you'd have to have some pretty important data
[05:44] <pbx2> what you guys talking about?
[05:44] <reisio> encryption and stuff and things
[05:44] <pbx2> ah truecrypt :)
[05:44] <reisio> partly
[05:45] <pbx2> how do you format a usb disk in Ubuntu?
[05:45] <intok> How can I write zeros to an entire drive during format to EXT4?
[05:46] <pbx2> intok, it was just right click the USB drive and click Format in windows...
[05:46] <pbx2> wondering if there is a similar way here???
[05:47] <reisio> intok: not sure mkfs provides that itself, you could dd first though (be careful)
[05:48] <intok> pbx2 yeah in OS X it's under the advvanced options for formating in Disk Utility, the default was the quick format, advanced was just that
[05:48] <reisio> actually Windows doesn't zero before formatting, and never has
[05:48] <reisio> it does have a quick mode and a non-quick mode though
[05:48] <reisio> the non-quick analyzes the disk is all
[05:48] <pbx2> OS X is windows?
[05:49] <pbx2> i thought it was mac
[05:49] <reisio> I doubt Mac OS is different
[05:49] <reisio> uh, you mentioned Windows, not me
[05:49] <intok> pbx2 nope, totally different animal
[05:49] <intok>  reisio so "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdd bs=8M"
[05:50] <pbx2> reisio, any way to do a quick format on my usb thumbdrive for installing a live os?
[05:50] <reisio> intok: right, just be sure you get the of right
[05:50] <reisio> and by right I mean the device you want to _zero_
[05:50] <intok> pbx2 gparted does that
[05:50] <pbx2> ahh thanks
[05:50] <reisio> pbx2: just mkfs(.foo)
[05:51] <reisio> pbx2: mkfs.ext4 -O ^has_journal /dev/sda#
[05:51] <intok> reisio yeah, I disconected ll other volumes but the boot drive, the target is SDD
[05:51] <reisio> intok: :D
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> intok:what ssd brand u got?
[05:51] <reisio> dunno if you'd really want to zero an ssd
[05:52] <reisio> they can have data remanence issues zeroing might not solve anyways
[05:52] <intok> lotuspsychje lol the sdd of found in the junk
[05:52] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_remanence#Data_on_solid-state_drives
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> intok:doesnt matter, i like to know what brand ppl use
[05:52] <reisio> haha
[05:55] <intok> lotuspsychje reisio lol, it's not an ssd, thats just the mount point of a 360GB segate 7200.10 series HDD I need to verify is working properly, SMART isn't an option, the only SATA sevies I have are a laptop and a USB enclosure that doesn't read SMART
[05:55] <curiousx> aloha all :D
[05:55] <curiousx> *cricket sounds*
[05:56] <reisio> smart doesn't work anyways
[05:56] <reisio> only worthwhile if you have hundreds of disks
[05:56] <pbx2> I have Nvidia GT520,  Intel Core i3 Sandybridge, MSI motherboard with SATA 6 and my HDD is also SATA 6 (for 6gbps support), and my motherboard 2xUSB 3.0 at the back
[05:56] <reisio> otherwise you notice when a disk fails and simply replace it and restore from your backup etc.
[05:56] <pbx2> Does any Linux distro have all the Hardware drivers for my PC?
[05:57] <reisio> pbx2: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[05:57] <Chuck_Norris> pbx2: i got gt 520 too
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> howto remove recupped dir folders, restored with photorec(they got a locked icon)
[05:57] <reisio> most drivers are in the kernel, most distros have access to the same kernel
[05:57] <intok> reisio yeah, it's mainly just to see if there is anything horribly wrog, the full zeroing I want to do usually finds bad sectors though
[05:57] <reisio> lotuspsychje: sudo chown -R youruser:youruser path/to/topdir/
[05:57] <reisio> intok: sure
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> reisio:tnx ill try
[05:57] <intok> reisio as well as strains the drive for a few hours
[05:58] <killua> hmm
[05:59] <newbie|2> how can I set the idle timeout to more than 2 hours in 10.04?
[06:02] <tuxgeek> anyone here tried the gnome shell with ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[06:02] <reisio> I'm sure someone has
[06:03] <pbx2> tuxgeek, i did
[06:03] <pbx2> it was good
[06:03] <tuxgeek> cool!
[06:03] <Chuck_Norris> tuxgeek: me
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> im used to unti now
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> unity
[06:03] <pbx2> reisio, so how do I decipher the results?
[06:04] <goddard> tuxgeek: ya is not bad
[06:04] <pbx2> is there a place I can paste the results...without losing the formatting?
[06:04] <goddard> tuxgeek: prefer unity though
[06:04] <goddard> pbx2: does libreoffice have its online version yet?
[06:04] <pbx2> I like the feature where you drag and drop individual windows to its own workspace
[06:05] <tuxgeek> thanks guys...
[06:05] <tuxgeek> it's good to know...:)
[06:05] <windbuntu> isnt 12.04 supposed to tell me when updates are available? i just checked and there are 80?
[06:06] <bazhang> windbuntu, set it to notify daily?
[06:06] <caustict0k> what repo you use?
[06:06] <tuxgeek> windbuntu: it does!
[06:06] <windbuntu> what is default?
[06:06] <bazhang> windbuntu, checked update manager settings yet?
[06:06] <caustict0k> squeeze for me
[06:07] <windbuntu> no never heard of that
[06:07] <pbx2> goddard, i dunno
[06:07] <windbuntu> it just always seemed to do it for me
[06:07] <bazhang> caustict0k, thats not ubuntu
[06:07] <windbuntu> but i will if i can find it
[06:07] <caustict0k> bt5
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> reisio:tnx mate chown trick worked like a charm(removed lock icon)
[06:07] <caustict0k> r2*
[06:07] <bazhang> caustict0k, also not ubuntu
[06:07] <windbuntu> sure is running nice though (except i have to use k3b instead of brasero).
[06:07] <caustict0k> its lucid >.<
[06:07] <Chuck_Norris> windbuntu: click on the Dash and write: update   you will see it
[06:08] <bazhang> bt is not supported here caustict0k
[06:08] <windbuntu> yes Chuck_Norris thats how i found out i had 80 waiting but i meant to find the settings
[06:08] <caustict0k> lol grammer nazi
[06:08] <Chuck_Norris> caustict0k: /j backtrack-linux
[06:08] <bazhang> caustict0k, uncalled for
[06:08] <Tm_T> caustict0k: please show some respect toward others
[06:08] <zohaibhassan2126> 03002719300
[06:09] <bazhang> !backtrack | caustict0k
[06:10] <caustict0k> lol?
[06:10] <Chuck_Norris> windbuntu: open "ubuntu software sources" click in "edit" then "updates"
[06:10] <windbuntu> wow it did 80 fast...ok ill do that Chuck_Norris
[06:10] <windbuntu> and no reboot?
[06:11] <Chuck_Norris> sry, ubuntu software center > edit > software sources > updates -.-
[06:11] <bazhang> windbuntu, unless its a kernel, thats seldom needed
[06:13] <pbx2> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qx-v4dCHCacRGG68Uhx767fWSE1FbIdb2b3ORzy2mss/edit
[06:15] <windbuntu> ok something is wrong because its set to check for updates daily and notify
[06:15] <pbx2> I seem to be missing a lot of drivers: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qx-v4dCHCacRGG68Uhx767fWSE1FbIdb2b3ORzy2mss/edit via http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ ... where did reisio go?
[06:15] <windbuntu> but it runs great
[06:15] <bazhang> windbuntu, perhaps the 24hrs had not elapsed
[06:16] <windbuntu> yeah could be i just checked by chance since it seems like its been awhile
[06:16] <pbx2> you guys can see the google docs right?
[06:16] <windbuntu> even so i really like 12.04
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> 12.04 has some features i reallylike
[06:17] <tuxgeek> yeah!
[06:18] <Guest94987> hello
[06:18] <windbuntu> its not even using much ram
[06:18] <tuxgeek> windbuntu: correct!
[06:19] <pbx2> windbuntu, probably not even using all your hardware :)
[06:19] <pbx2> due to lack of drivers
[06:19] <tuxgeek> :)
[06:19] <windbuntu> so i really cant justify even trying the lighter distro anymore
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> cant say that im missing any drivers. but i did research befor i bought my wifi dongle. ;)
[06:20] <tuxgeek> ubuntu has no driver issues on fairly modern HW...
[06:20] <tuxgeek> seamless...perfect!
[06:20] <susundberg> huh no?, i just did fresh install 12.04 and the machine booted with blank screen ..
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> i had harder time finding wifi drivers for my old pci wifi card on windows7 . :)
[06:21] <MrNaz_out> im trying to get my firewire device working in ubuntu 12.04 but i cant seem to... previously i would just do "sudo modprobe raw1394 ieee1394 video1394 ohci1394" on a fresh install and it would all work... but in 12.04 i'm getting "modulie raw1394 not found" ... has firewire support changed recently?
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> susundberg:  blank as in black with a lashing cursor?
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> flashing
[06:21] <susundberg> though i somewhat managed to get failsafe-x up and then install nvidia propritary drivers tha worked fine
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[06:21] <susundberg> Dr_Willis: ya, i guess, its fixed anyway for now with new drivers
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> some nvidia cards - need the nomodeset to get to a  desktop then install the drivers
[06:22] <jony_easyrider> hello
[06:22] <tuxgeek> hey hey!
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> welcome back jony_easyrider
[06:22] <pbx2> But my google doc shows that all the drivers are not available for my pc: Nvidia GT520,  Intel Core i3 Sandybridge, MSI motherboard with SATA 6 and my HDD is also SATA 6 (for 6gbps support), and my motherboard 2xUSB v3.0 at the back  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qx-v4dCHCacRGG68Uhx767fWSE1FbIdb2b3ORzy2mss/edit via http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[06:22] <jony_easyrider> sec... changing my nick
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> we should tell him about the  /nick command
[06:23] <pbx2> I want to use virtualbox inside my Lubuntu...but it is so slow
[06:23] <tuxgeek> lol!
[06:23] <red_baron> hello
[06:23] <red_baron> again
[06:24] <tuxgeek> next time /nick
[06:24] <windbuntu> oh now i see, because they werent security updates ubuntu displays those kind weekly unless i change it.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis>  /nick newnick     to chngenicknmes.. ;)
[06:24] <windbuntu> ubuntu dipslays the security updates daily...others weekly...i am not going to change the default.
[06:25] <ServerCrash> What should be the value of Required-Start:    $remote_fs $syslog to ensure the init script runs after kernel modules are loaded
[06:26] <server_> ?
[06:26] <paulus68> whats through the command line a good way to do a memory check
[06:26] <server_> 有人聊天吗
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !info photorec
[06:26] <tuxgeek> free
[06:26] <Chuck_Norris> free -m
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> they should add photorec to repos, fine piece of software it is
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> !find photorec
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> !info testdisk
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> it is in the repos. ;)
[06:28] <K-Lab> Mornin
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> oh this is the same dr_willis
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> ive never used it. so no idea.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> seems the same
[06:28] <ServerCrash> how to ensure that a given init scripts starts only after all the kernel modules (in /etc/modules) are loaded
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: i think testdisk is just for analyze, and photorec for recovery
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> just restored 1gig files on an usb with photorec, pretty handy
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> bot said photorec is in the testdisk package in the repos.
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> ok
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> i like it more then extundelete
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> i used ddrescue to recover 1TB of data from a flakey external usb. ;0 once
[06:30] <killuaaaaa> how to use ubbottu
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> nice
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> !bot | killuaaaaa
[06:30] <M_> join #epia-lol
[06:30] <killuaaaaa> thhankyou
[06:31] <killuaaaaa> Dr_Willis: thankyou
[06:31] <Chuck_Norris> ubottu: rules \m/-_-\m/
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: is it possible from outside to grab webcam captures on an ubuntu system(without permission)
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  doubtfull
[06:32] <Chuck_Norris> lotuspsychje: ye, using motion
[06:32] <Chuck_Norris> !info motion
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> 'without permission'    is the  reason its doubtfull. ;)
[06:33] <ylmfos> hi dear friends
[06:33] <killuaaaaa> ylmfos: hi
[06:33] <ylmfos> i need some hacking softwares can u help me..............
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> ylmfos:  doubtfull..
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> unless you have some sort of ubuntu support type issue.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> gues not.
[06:35] <xisorshadow> hi, does the system keep the downloaded packages it fetches during an apt upgrade?
[06:35] <xisorshadow> or does it delete the files after the update?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> xisorshadow:  check /var/cache/apt/
[06:35] <red_baron> how can I change idle timeout in 10.04 to more than 2 hours?
[06:35] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, is it safe to delete that stuff?
[06:35] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, like, do i need it anymore?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> thecommand apt-get clean   cleans it out
[06:35] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, ok, ty
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> dont mess with it ;)
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> deletggeing it by hand.. can get ugly
[06:36] <xisorshadow> is there a command for seeing how much free space i have?
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> xisorshadow:  'free' ;)
[06:36] <fidel> xisorshadow: du
[06:36] <tuxgeek> df -h
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> du -h
[06:36] <Chuck_Norris> du -sh
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> depdns on what info yoiu need exactly
[06:36] <xisorshadow> free space on my linux partition
[06:36] <xisorshadow> :P
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> try the avobe
[06:37] <cbm> I want to do something like: if ASCII{mv * to someplace}, how this can be done?
[06:37] <xisorshadow> 2.9G used with xbmc and chrome installed and all updates done, 3.9 free Dr_Willis
[06:37] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, think im gonna be ok? XD
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> cbm:  some bash scripting, or perl or pythin. depending on the details
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> xisorshadow:  try it out for a few days ad see
[06:38] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, any reason why it created 4 gigs of swap when i have 4 gigs of ram? do i need that much?
[06:38] <wylde> cbm: bet #bash #sed #awk would have some ideas for you
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> 4gb almost holds my wallpaper collection
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> xisorshadow:  to hibernate you need swap = ram. i belive
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:39] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, not going to use suspend at all, speaking of which, is there a way to disable ubuntu from shutting my screen off? i couldnt find it
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> the powersacer/screensavers setting is there somewhere
[06:39] <red_baron> anybody can help me, please? how can I change idle timeout in 10.04 to more than 2 hours?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> what idle  timeout?
[06:40] <xisorshadow> well, so far this new nettop is about 500x faster than my other one
[06:40] <red_baron> at screensaver idle timeout could be set to max 2 hours :(
[06:40] <xisorshadow> upgraded from dual core atom/ion to AMD E450 dual core with 6320 GPU
[06:40] <xisorshadow> seems infinitely faster so far
[06:41] <xisorshadow> 1200fps in glxgears means my 3d acceleration is working properly right?
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> glxgears is a weird command. ;)
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> if  unity3d works.. then ya got  ssome 3d accell at least.
[06:42] <xisorshadow> unity 3d worked before i installed the amd driver :P
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> shows how good  the  gpl driver is  then
[06:43] <MrNaz_out> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dvgrab/+bug/779680   <-- this firewire related bug appears to still be open
[06:44] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, what is the gpl driver?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> the open sourced gpl driver sthat came included with the os
[06:45] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, this is my 3rd day using linux now XD even fixed my sound and video on my OWN this time, after needing HOURS of help the first time on my old nettop :D
[06:45] <xisorshadow> so i feel like im learning something
[06:45] <xisorshadow> XD
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> MrNaz_out:  yep. the bug is open
[06:45] <windbuntu> brasero bug never gets done either
[06:46] <MrNaz_out> Dr_Willis my only option appears to be switching to a version of ubuntu that uses the old fw stack
[06:46] <xisorshadow> and now for a more general question, how hot should my cpu be?
[06:46] <MrNaz_out> which seems a little extreme given that i have to download and use 11.10... surely there's a better way?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> MrNaz_out:  if its a new kernel bug.. then its  a new bug.
[06:46] <MrNaz_out> errr. 10.10
[06:46] <MrNaz_out> fair enough
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> that bug reports knows more then we do  i iimagine.
[06:47] <MrNaz_out> Dr_Willis ok... if i were to download and use 10.10 will i at least have access to repos? or have they all been killed
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> !10.10
[06:47] <wylde> !10.10
[06:47] <MrNaz_out> oh cool
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> you would have to setup  and  use the archive repos
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> once it goes eol
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> same applies to any eol release
[06:48] <MrNaz_out> Dr_Willis do the archive repos contain the last set of packages for that release? i.e., can i safely use them of is using an eol release just a barrel of broken?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> they should be up to date with  its death of the release
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> end of eol date at least. :)
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> bye all
[06:49] <MrNaz_out> !11.04
[06:49] <obelus> MrNaz_out: They should be an exact copy of the entire package archive for 10.10 at the time that they moved it to the eol archive.
[06:50] <xisorshadow> is it possible to create a session that loads xbmc and chromium browser ONLY? and puts chromium in the background?
[06:50] <MrNaz_out> obelus great... at least i can use it... i'll use 10.10 until the fw stack in the kernel is fixed
[06:50] <MrNaz_out> thanks all
[06:51] <obelus> I'm trying to get a local ubuntu mirror onto a machine that's behind a proxy, and download limits prevent it from mirroring the archive itself; I was thinking that I could mirror the archive with rsync or apt-mirror from home and transfer it via a portable hard drive, and use apt-mirror to update it after it's on the target machine. Is this possible?
[06:52] <MrNaz_out> !10.04
[06:52] <xisorshadow> guess nobody knows
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> !info xmbc
[06:53] <obelus> xisorshadow: I can't think of any way off-hand other than making the X session run a script in xterm or gnome-terminal that starts chromium-browser then xbmc.
[06:54] <xisorshadow> obelus, xbmx has a session that loads only it, but nothing else, was just wondering if there was a way to add a program to that session
[06:54] <xisorshadow> xbmc*
[06:54] <xisorshadow> obelus, so i can tab out and browse the web without exiting xbmc and logging into unity, if you follow what im trying to do
[06:54] <goddard> whats a good way to watch video rss feeds? and keep track of them?
[06:54] <obelus> I understand what you want to do, I just don't really know how to do it. I've never tried creating sessions so I don't know how much you can customise them
[06:54] <goddard> totem kind of sucks
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> goddard: maybe vlc can do stuff?
[06:55] <xisorshadow> obelus, this is an HTPC im setting up, and having a browser at the ready without loading a full environment would be very helpful
[06:57] <obelus> xisorshadow: As I said before, I understand that.
[06:57] <xisorshadow> anybody know anything about sessions and could help me?
[06:57] <obelus> Okay, I think I found something, but no guarantees
[06:58] <obelus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[06:58] <blackshirt> xisorshadow: i don't understand your problem ... describe more detail
[06:58] <xisorshadow> i want to create a custom X session that loads chromium browser and xbmc, and NOTHING else
[06:58] <xisorshadow> blackshirt, is about all the detail i can give
[06:59] <obelus> You'd probably want a script like in that file to start chromium-browser &
[06:59] <obelus> and then whatever commands are necessary to start xbmc
[06:59] <xisorshadow> obelus, xbmc is the command to start xbmc XD simple!
[07:00] <goddard> lotuspsychje: vlc isn't getting all the videos
[07:00] <obelus> xisorshadow: Alright, then you'd want chromium-browser & on one line, then xbmc & on the other line
[07:00] <obelus> The page I linked should tell you the rest that you need to know
[07:00] <obelus> I've never tried it though
[07:00] <obelus> I might give it a try in a VM shortly if you have trouble with it
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> goddard:you want a full rss list inside a media player, so when u click it opens the video?
[07:01] <xisorshadow> obelus, where can i find my existing session files? i could edit the session xbmc created and add chromium to that
[07:02] <red_baron> pls someone: how can I disable the idle timeout in 10.04<
[07:02] <red_baron> ?
[07:02] <server_> 有中国人吗
[07:02] <chu> xisorshadow: ~/.bash_profile assuming you want it applied to your current account.
[07:02] <cbm> if i want to grep anything.txt in a txt file what should i do ???
[07:02] <killuaaaaa> red_baron: X
[07:02] <cbm> 有
[07:03] <server_> 。。
[07:03] <server_> gns3 弄过没？
[07:03] <xisorshadow> chu, how do i find that?
[07:03] <cbm> no
[07:03] <server_> 。。。
[07:03] <wookienz> hi, i am trying to compile a davicom dm9601 usb to ethernet module. I m getting htese errors. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1017488/ any ideas?
[07:04] <DJones> !cn | server_
[07:04] <chu> xisorshadow: Well, it should be in your home directory. If it's not there, just create the file.
[07:04] <goddard> lotuspsychje: ya
[07:05] <ServerCrash> hi, i have written an dameon init script and placed it in /etc/init.d/ and made it start at boot, now my scripts gets executed before the kernel modules are loaded
[07:05] <xisorshadow> chu, there are existing session types already, i want to edit one of those, wouldnt that imply not having to create something?
[07:06] <ServerCrash> thus failing my daemon , is there anyway i can delay the execution of init script exectution till the kernel modules are loaded
[07:06] <chu> I have no idea what you're ever trying to do.
[07:06] <xisorshadow> chu, im trying to edit the xbmc session to add chromium browser to it, so itll load the browser in the background when i use an xbmc session
[07:06] <obelus> xisorshadow: I'm powering up an Ubuntu 12.04 desktop VM to check where they are
[07:06] <obelus> Just a minute
[07:06] <xisorshadow> so only xbmc and chromium are running
[07:06] <chu> xisorshadow: I don't know what xbmc is.
[07:06] <xisorshadow> chu it is xbox media center, its for setting up a home theater pc
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> goddard: cant you just load up rss into indicator area, then open up the video(or u want just into the mediaplayer)
[07:07] <killuaaaaa> !info unity
[07:07] <chu> xisorshadow: Doesn't actually explain much.
[07:08] <chu> xisorshadow: From what I understand, you just need to create a ~/.bash_profile file, with some text saying launch chromium, but I don't really know what you're trying to do, so just ignore me.
[07:09] <obelus> chu, xisorshadow: No, creating a new bash_profile to launch only chromium won't help much. But if it launched both chromium and xbmc, it would. Trying to locate where the default session is stored currently
[07:09] <goddard> lotuspsychje: well on totem i have a sidebar that lists all the videos which is nice and I can just click and stream the video.. which is nice, but it doesn't support multiple playlists and it saves them to a file... which is odd
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> goddard:for more rss feeds adding into vlc, you need to seperate with |
[07:10] <chu> obelus: I have no idea what xmbc is, but here: http://pastebin.com/8UKJzeBS (you can take over now)
[07:10] <chu> (obelus: that's a ~/.bash_profile file)
[07:12] <obelus> That will just launch it when you start bash, I imagine. Does NOT seem very helpful.
[07:12] <chu> You could add startx & to the end and it will also launch X.
[07:12] <obelus> It'd be more helpful as an .xinitrc file
[07:12] <obelus> chu, no, that would NOT help. That would require logon at console first, then it would try and fail to launch two X applications before launching X itself
[07:12] <haneefmubarak> or use sudo service start lightdm
[07:13] <goddard> lotuspsychje: thanks for yoru help.. i guess none of the players work well with what im trying to do or would prefer
[07:13] <fate> basically pulse audio isnt cutting it
[07:13] <obelus> If that was a .xsession file, it would likely help.
[07:13] <fate> what audio lib shoululd i use?
[07:13] <fate> i get bad tones
[07:13] <fate> some stuff i cant hear
[07:14] <fate> pc is old
[07:14] <haneefmubarak> fate: Are you sure that your speakers/headphones work, and also that your sound chip/card all work perfectly first?
[07:14] <fate> yes they work
[07:14] <fate> i tried on windows
[07:15] <fate> like sometimes it sounds fine
[07:15] <fate> but say different parts of a song
[07:15] <fate> maybe one part will be lower tone
[07:15] <fate> or another part will sound like 70's vinyls
[07:15] <nights> hey'
[07:15] <haneefmubarak> That really isn't the OS or a driver in that case...
[07:15] <nights> im losing my head trying to find a SIMPLE server music player that has a decent web interface
[07:15] <nights> i dont streaming and all that junk
[07:15] <fate> no it is
[07:15] <nights> i just want it to playback on the server
[07:15] <fate> it works on windows
[07:16] <nights> is that impossible?
[07:16] <haneefmubarak> Give me a minute, I remember a really good one, I'm finding it...
[07:16] <nights> haneefmubarak: really?
[07:16] <haneefmubarak> Yeah...
[07:17] <nights> that would be awesome
[07:17] <haneefmubarak> I've used subsonic, but it kinda sucks.
[07:17] <nights> should be so simple, yet all i can find is for local playback through streams
[07:17] <nights> ah
[07:17] <nights> but isnt that also for local playback?
[07:17] <haneefmubarak> I remember a really awesome one that can stream to loads of devices easily though...
[07:17] <nights> but i dont want to stream
[07:17] <nights> man
[07:17] <haneefmubarak> Give me a minute, nights.
[07:17] <nights> why doesnt anyone get it :(
[07:17] <nights> i just want to control the server playback through a web interface
[07:17] <haneefmubarak> What are you trying to do?
[07:18] <haneefmubarak> Why the hell would you want to do that?
[07:18] <nights> the server has the speaks
[07:18] <nights> speakers
[07:18] <haneefmubarak> I mean, you can, but why?
[07:18] <nights> and we are a few person using it for playing music
[07:18] <haneefmubarak> So walk over and do whatever you need to….
[07:19] <nights> no .. it doesnt have convenient physical access
[07:19] <haneefmubarak> nights?
[07:19] <haneefmubarak> What do you mean?
[07:19] <nights> its locked away
[07:19] <fate> im gonna try alsa
[07:19] <nights> basically remote desktop works ok
[07:19] <cbm> hi all how can i replace all the "\n"  with "\t" in a txt file
[07:19] <nights> but its not really what i want
[07:19] <nights> cbm: search replace in any text editor.
[07:20] <cbm> but it is \n
[07:20] <haneefmubarak> How far is it from where you'd like to access?
[07:20] <cbm> it seems replace is not working with \n
[07:20] <nights> its 100 meter
[07:20] <nights> why does it mater
[07:20] <nights> matter
[07:21] <haneefmubarak> Ok...
[07:21] <nights> this is the most simple problem ever
[07:21] <haneefmubarak> Have you thought about KVM?
[07:21] <nights> my last option is to write my own software
[07:21] <nights> but it will take atleast 2 days
[07:21] <nights> KVM
[07:21] <nights> never heard of it
[07:21] <haneefmubarak> KeyboardVideoMouse
[07:21] <nights> ah
[07:21] <nights> well
[07:21] <nights> i can see now that im not getting any help from here
[07:22] <nights> thanks anyway
[07:22] <haneefmubarak> Those three things over LAN to a receiver box, generally work well in production environments, nights.
[07:22] <nights> so is that what you consider a web interface then?
[07:22] <nights> wasnt that my question
[07:23] <fate> nights: jack
[07:23] <nights> not how to use fucking keyboard & mouse
[07:23] <haneefmubarak> No, but it's certainly a better solution.
[07:23] <fate> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JACK_Audio_Connection_Kit
[07:23] <nights> god.-
[07:23] <fate> i found that
[07:23] <Tm_T> nights: please language
[07:23] <fate> trying to fix my problem
[07:23] <nights> just ban me i dont care.
[07:23] <fate> s a professional sound server, which provides real-time, low latency (i.e. 5 milliseconds or less) audio performance and, since JACK2, supports efficient load balancing by utilizing symmetric multiprocessing, that is the load of all audio clients can be distributed among several processors. Audio clients can be arbitrarily connected with each other.
[07:23] <red_baron> how can I stop entering in idle the ubuntu 10.04?
[07:24] <haneefmubarak> Realize that a web interface is severely resource consuming.
[07:24] <nights> lol
[07:24] <fate> lolwut
[07:24] <nights> you have no idea what you are talking about
[07:24] <fate> how is a web interface resource consuming?
[07:24] <nights> lol
[07:24] <nights> that was funny
[07:24] <haneefmubarak> red_baron: What kind of computer do you have (specs always help!)?
[07:24] <red_baron> FSC desktop
[07:25] <red_baron> proc. celeron 2,6, 512mb ram?
[07:25] <Noiano> hello
[07:25] <red_baron> I can set the idle timeout at screensavers
[07:25] <haneefmubarak> red_baron: Your computer is sort of outdated… Have you thought of Lubuntu?
[07:25] <red_baron> but the maximum is 2 h only :(
[07:25] <Noiano> can anybody help me? I'm on 12.04 and lightdm won't start. I have to manually start logging from text console....
[07:25] <haneefmubarak> Noiano: What kind of computer do you have?
[07:26] <red_baron> it's working perfectly with 10.04 ubuntu
[07:26] <Noiano> haneefmubarak, laptop, dell inspiron 1720
[07:26] <strictland> hi everyone, i'm trying to wake on lan over internet using : http://www.depicus.com/wake-on-lan/woli.aspx and I have everything filled up except the part where it says "Any Computers Ip Number or FQDN" ... can anyone help?
[07:26] <haneefmubarak> strictland: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WakeOnLan
[07:27] <Niranjan> hi
[07:27] <haneefmubarak> Noiano: try using a LiveCD to repair it.
[07:27] <Tiktalik> I have a 400 kilobyte text file that needs editing
[07:27] <Tiktalik> What can I use to edit it
[07:27] <Noiano> haneefmubarak, It works, only it doesn't start at boot, I have to manually start it
[07:27] <Niranjan> you can use gedit
[07:27] <haneefmubarak> Tiktalik: Are you comfortable with the command line interface?
[07:27] <Niranjan> or if u know using Vi or Vim editor then use it
[07:28] <haneefmubarak> Noiano: Explain further, please.
[07:28] <Noiano> haneefmubarak, each time I turn on my pc
[07:28] <Tiktalik> I'm actually on arch haneefmubarak, but vim doesn't want to load it it seems
[07:28] <haneefmubarak> Niranjan: Vi/vim is too hard for most.
[07:28] <obelus> Tiktalik: Nano? Pretty simple editor.
[07:28] <Niranjan> u can' use command line until u close it
[07:28] <Noiano> I only get the text console, I have to login in one of them and invoke sudo service lightdm start
[07:28] <haneefmubarak> Thats what I was about to recommend.
[07:29] <obelus> Tiktalik: Also, pico or ee is good if you don't have nano available.
[07:29] <manzamanna> hello everybody, I'm on a netbook with 1024x600 display resolution. Some programs has minimal resolution at 1024x768. Is it possible to have something like a "virtual resolution" with slide? I mean keeping display resolution at 1024x600 but sliding moving mouse cursor.
[07:29] <haneefmubarak> Noiano: Make a service script to auto-start it?
[07:29] <haneefmubarak> manzamanna: Sorry, no.
[07:30] <R0n[[Y]]> hello, someone can help me i enter in ubuntu-es but nothing can help me... i dont know a lot of english
[07:30] <Noiano> haneefmubarak, how? I've tried update-rc but doesn't work
[07:30] <obelus> manzamanna: Ah, I used to have that problem on my old netbook. Only solution I found in the end was starting Windows for those problem, as my drivers in Windows had a 1024x768 mode that worked pretty well.
[07:30] <K-Lab> Mornin !
[07:31] <haneefmubarak> Noiano: I'm not advanced enough to help you past this point, sorry. Try the forums: forums.ubuntu.com
[07:31] <R0n[[Y]]> hello, someone can help me i enter in ubuntu-es but nothing can help me... i dont know a lot of english
[07:31] <Dynetrekk> hi, I installed hte xfce package (12.04 LTS server) but lots of icons etc are missing. what do I do?
[07:32] <haneefmubarak> R0n[[Y]]: Try asking in #ubuntu-es
[07:32] <haneefmubarak> (Just click the link.
[07:32] <rigved> Dynetrekk: did you install the xubuntu-desktop package?
[07:32] <R0n[[Y]]> anything answere me
[07:32] <Dynetrekk> rigved: nope
[07:32] <Dynetrekk> rigved: I'll do that then
[07:32] <sacarlson> wookienz: I verified I get the same error when I tried to compile same driver,  I see this http://ak-hacks.blogspot.com/2010/01/linux-usb-ethernet-driver-davicom.html  but fail to find the patch they point to
[07:33] <R0n[[Y]]> haneefmubarak> anything answere me
[07:33] <rigved> Dynetrekk: i do not know if this is the solution to your problem, but it is the correct way to get the XFCE DE in Ubuntu.
[07:33] <manzamanna> mmm.. haneefmubarak obelus, and remoting my desktop to another pc? do you think I can resize resolution?
[07:33] <Dynetrekk> rigved: sounds likely. I just installed xfce
[07:33] <goddard> ok i keep getting an error trying to sign my dsc files
[07:34] <goddard> says it can't open .gnupg/secring.gpg
[07:34] <wookienz> sacarlson, yes, same. I ended up using modprobe usbnet then modprobe dm9601.ko and i think it works as the module is loaded...i have yet to test the actauly device.
[07:34] <goddard> how can i solve this?
[07:34] <haneefmubarak> manzamanna: if you connect another monitor to it via cable, you could easily do what you'd like (if your graphics will support that)...
[07:34] <DjAngo23> Hello everyone. This morning (europe) I started my 1 week old laptop, and sudenly the SSD dirve had disappeard. There were some important data on it. Anyone any idea? sudo blkid does not see the drive, but the disk utility does
[07:34] <vexaxv> im running ubuntu 12.04 and i installed bastion from the humble bundle and this is what i get in the terminal http://pastebin.com/7SSV6DnN after it starts it closes
[07:34] <wookienz> sacarlson, i tried modprobe dm960 earlier but didnt work, the usbnet before hand seemed to fi it no idea what that does.
[07:35] <manzamanna> haneefmubarak: I know, but I have not a display, only another bigger notebook
[07:36] <sacarlson> wookienz: I also noted that it seems it will only work at 10mbit and they might try to set it to 100mbit, not sure it's related to your problem, good luck
[07:36] <haneefmubarak> So just use the notebook by itself...
[07:36] <wookienz> sacarlson, thanks for your help. It is only a temp cheapo adapter until i find my real one!
[07:37] <vexaxv> does anyone play Bastion on ubuntu 12.04??
[07:37] <haneefmubarak> vexaxv: Please go to #ubuntu-offtopic for such questions...
[07:38] <goddard> says it can't open .gnupg/secring.gpg
[07:38] <DjAngo23> Anyone any experience with the abow SSD problem?
[07:39] <acicula> DjAngo23: does the drive show in the bios?
[07:39] <DjAngo23> Yes
[07:39] <DjAngo23> Even in gparted and disk utility
[07:39] <acicula> k
[07:39] <DjAngo23> It says /dev/sdb1 file system unknown
[07:39] <acicula> so the device name exists
[07:40] <acicula> DjAngo23: k so the filesystems is corrupted
[07:40] <DjAngo23> Is there a way to repair it, or do i have to format?
[07:40] <acicula> DjAngo23: did you try running the filesystem checkker for its file system in read only mode ?
[07:40] <peter__> ....
[07:40] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23 !! before you wipe do a "dd in=/dev/[drive] out=file_image.img"
[07:42] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, I cant find the disk in /dev/
[07:42] <acicula> DjAngo23: if the filechecker cant recognize the disk it wont be able to repair it, copying all your data using dd is a good choice if you want to do analysis at a later date, sometimes its possible to recover some files from disk images
[07:42] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: is there still a partition on it? It doesn't have to have a known file system just the /dev/sdb[something]
[07:42] <DjAngo23> Which dir are the ssd' s ?
[07:42] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: can you pastbin the result of "fdisk -l"    (that's a L)
[07:43] <DjAngo23> sure. 1 sec
[07:43] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: that will output all partitions. Also run with sudo or be root
[07:43] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: being root is important for it to work
[07:43] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, I can send you the fdisk -l, but the drive does not show up.
[07:44] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: that's ok let's just see what you have for partition structure. Just to see if we can do some tricks to rescue the filesystem
[07:44] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: past.ubuntu.com
[07:46] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: if you have a fresh boot we can also look at "dmesg > output_from_dmesg.log"
[07:46] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, I does appear finaly. I didn't look right. Here is the fstab -l http://pastebin.com/qWuEz4m2
[07:46] <ca> Is there any way to get a macbook to properly
[07:46] <ca> properly handle closing the lid with an external monitor attached
[07:46] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: cool thanx, one sec while exam
[07:47] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: nice. good we have the partition intact.
[07:48] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: just curious, do you happen to remember the type of file system used? (ext4, ntfs, fat32, etc.)
[07:49] <DjAngo23> sure i did. it' s ext4
[07:50] <DjAngo23> Does my laptop maybe restored the old hybernation disk on it. But I don't think so.
[07:50] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: we may be able to fix real quick. But I'd like to make an image of the partition before doing such.
[07:50] <DjAngo23> Sounds more secure ;) So let' s do it
[07:50] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: SSD drives are tricky to recover do to solid state nature vs disk/magnetic structure
[07:51] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: good choice. It may take awhile, but at least we'll have an image before tampering with the partition.
[07:52] <DjAngo23> The disk is only 20g, but it wil take the time needed.
[07:52] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: let me check some documention on the command "dd" one sec while I review.
[07:52] <DjAngo23> dd
[07:52] <DjAngo23> oups
[07:52] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: quicker than you think though it's SSD ;)
[07:54] <DjAngo23> Thanks already for your time
[07:54] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: I've got a 16GB flash so let me run a quick test first. But if you'd like some reading material check out "man dd".
[07:55] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: no prob.
[07:55] <bytesofbinary> guys, how do I share a wired internet connection via wifi? (I want to tether it to my phone actually)
[07:57] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: ok while that's running I give an over-view of the steps
[07:57] <ajvpot> is there a command to "tail -f" a csv file and display the output "nicely" in formatted columns?
[07:57] <pepee> bytesofbinary, in android?
[07:58] <bytesofbinary> pepee: yes
[07:58] <wiherek> Hi
[07:58] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: the command that we'll run (after I test it) is, "sudo dd bs=512 if=/dev/sdc1 of=/home/user/flash.img"
[07:58] <wiherek> I want to create a symbolic link between two directories on two machines connected via ssh
[07:58] <wiherek> how can I accomplish that?
[07:59] <pepee> bytesofbinary, download barnacle wifi tether
[07:59] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: next before we mess with the actual partition is to mount the image and see if we can't get at the data. All while preserving the original partition.
[07:59] <bytesofbinary> pepee: thanx a lot man!!!
[07:59] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, should i use sdc1 or my sdb1
[07:59] <pepee> though it never worked for me
[08:00] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: good, my flash-drive is sdc1 but you would want to use your device name which is...
[08:00] <DjAngo23> Perfect
[08:00] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: sdb1
[08:00] <goddard> lotuspsychje: i found a great one
[08:01] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, It's doing something.
[08:01] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: so it will look like, "sudo dd bs=512 if=/dev/sdb1 of=/home/INSERTYOURUSERNAME/backup.img"
[08:02] <bytesofbinary> pepee: I saw the thing now, its not what I want. I wanted to connect the phone to internet via the computers lan connection
[08:02] <DjAngo23> It's copying. Memory is jumping, and hardrive is working. Waiting for some feedback from terminal
[08:02] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: go ahead and run that command, but you'll want to change the end of "of="  to your home dir or some file system with at least 20GB
[08:02] <pepee> bytesofbinary, you can do the adb tool that comes with the android SDK
[08:03] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: don't worry it's not very verbose
[08:03] <DjAngo23> It's what i got. The computer is quite slow.
[08:03] <bytesofbinary> pepee: is that the only method? :(
[08:03] <pepee> bytesofbinary, the only one I know
[08:04] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: I've got 4cores@2.5GHz/8GB-RAM/16GB-partition and it's still running
[08:05] <bytesofbinary> pepee: hmmm, thanx :)
[08:05] <pepee> bytesofbinary, I suppose you can do that in some other way, but no idea how
[08:05] <goddard> OMG watching videos just got SOOOOOOOOOOOO much better
[08:05] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: if you'd like to check that it's running you can run the "top" command. Look for "dd" and some % of CPU use
[08:05] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: in another terminal
[08:05] <bytesofbinary> pepee: I'm actually coming from windows, I used connectify there. Was as easy as 1+1 :P
[08:06] <manzamanna> haneefmubarak obelus, I get it work with xrandr. thanks anyway
[08:06] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, htop says 98%, so it's working.
[08:06] <haneefmubarak> Oh, you're more than welcome, manzamanna, even I didn't really help much.
[08:07] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, It' s finished: 20012072960 bytes (20 GB) copied, 358.01 s, 55.9 MB/s
[08:07] <goddard> my CPU is always MAXed out but my system isn't even going over 4GB of ram
[08:07] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: is that "%id"   ?    or under the "%CPU "     ?
[08:08] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, Does not matter anymore. It' s finished copying
[08:08] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: wow, that was quick. Thinking too quick, didn't see your response fast enough. lol
[08:09] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: ok next stage. let's navigate to /mnt
[08:09] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, So, you want to mount it next riwght?
[08:09] <DjAngo23> done.
[08:10] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: exactly. The command is, "sudo mount -o ro,loop /mnt/some_dir /home/yourusername/backup.img"
[08:10] <unimatrix_overlo> The command is, "sudo mount -o ro,loop :
[08:10] <unimatrix_overlo> crap keyboard.... grrr.
[08:11] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: now navigate to /mnt/somedir
[08:11] <llutz> unimatrix_overlo: vice versa: mount "what.img" "where/to/mount"
[08:12] <unimatrix_overlo> yes, sorry. good catch
[08:13] <Sidvee> I was regarding a cron script, and someone had written, to create a temp file and something. For temp file it used "$tempfile" why $ was added? Any significance? Or just like that?
[08:13] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: actually it should be, "sudo mount -o ro,loop -t autofs /home/username/backup.img  /mnt/somedir"
[08:13] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: you should now be able to use your fav file browser and see the it as a drive
[08:13] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, something went wrong:
[08:13] <DjAngo23> sudo mount -o ro,loop /mnt/flash /home/django/flash.img
[08:13] <DjAngo23> ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid argument
[08:14] <obelus> DjAngo23: sudo mount -o ro,loop /home/django/flash.img /mnt/flash
[08:14] <DjAngo23> Oh, i onlly see your msg now
[08:14] <DjAngo23> Trying again
[08:14] <unimatrix_overlo> yeah, llutz pointed out my error
[08:14] <llutz> Sidvee: $tmpfile has to be "filled" with a valid name before in your script, like  tmpfile=$(tempfile)
[08:15] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23:   sudo mount -o ro,loop -t autofs /home/username/backup.img  /mnt/somedir
[08:15] <obelus> Unfamiliar with -t autofs. Is that just auto detect filesystem?
[08:15] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, obelus , mount: unknown filesystem type 'autofs'
[08:16] <obelus> I think you should remove the -t autofs myself, mount defaults to autodetecting the filesystem
[08:16] <llutz> DjAngo23: -t auto    not autofs
[08:16] <Sidvee> llutz: I am pretty new to linux, would you mind elaborating it litte more. What is the use of "$"
[08:16] <unimatrix_overlo> try, "-t ext4"  since you pointed that out back a few
[08:16] <obelus> llutz: doesn't mount automatically assume auto if no -t is specified?
[08:17] <llutz> Sidvee: thats to address variables. like:  tmpfile=$(tempfile)   fills "tmpfile" with the output of "tempfile" (the program). to use that variable later, you use $tmpfile
[08:17] <llutz> obelus: correct
[08:17] <obelus> llutz: Thought so. Thanks for the confirmation
[08:17] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, I tried with -t ext4 and got
[08:17] <DjAngo23> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[08:17] <DjAngo23>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[08:17] <DjAngo23>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:17] <DjAngo23>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:17] <FloodBot1> DjAngo23: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:18] <Guest36296> haa
[08:18] <Guest36296> loll
[08:18] <Guest36296> ping loll
[08:18] <Guest36296> terminal 00
[08:18] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: ok, let me check the, "losetup" command. one sec.
[08:18] <llutz> Guest36296: do you have any ubuntu support-related question?
[08:19] <obelus> DjAngo23: You might want to try with -t auto  or completely omitting the -t option
[08:19] <Guest36296> no .tq
[08:19] <Guest36296> Ç)
[08:19] <llutz> Guest36296: then please stop
[08:20] <Guest36296> saya tidak pandai gun a ubuntu ini .
[08:20] <Sidvee> llutz: umm. You mean tempfile is program and tmpfile stores the output of tempfile? like "python tempfile,py > tmpfile"???
[08:20] <DjAngo23> with auto and without -t it says : mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[08:20] <llutz> Sidvee: like that
[08:21] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: let's try an extra step, it should iron the prob out
[08:21] <DjAngo23> message from dmesg: [ 3112.347412] EXT4-fs (loop0): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem
[08:21] <Sidvee> llutz: So the output can be stored like that. How does $ comes to picture here?
[08:22] <llutz> Sidvee: thats how you tell the shell you want to use a variable, not a command
[08:22] <llutz> Sidvee:  http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html#sect_03_02
[08:23] <DjAngo23> Maybee this is important information: The disk was furst in use for hybernation drive. I formated it, and changed it to ext4. Could it be possible that the bios reset it to Hybernation dist ? is see in fdis -l that the id is 84
[08:23] <Sidvee> llutz: is there any difference in writing "ls -l > temp"  and "ls -l > $temp"
[08:23] <llutz> Sidvee: redirection > won't work in bash
[08:23] <llutz> not to fill a VAR with output*
[08:24] <oCean> llutz: of course it will
[08:24] <llutz> Sidvee: var=$(ls -l)
[08:24] <Sidvee> llutz: isn't my terminal a bash as well?
[08:24] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: run, "sudo losetup /dev/loop0 /home/username/backup.img
[08:24] <llutz> occe[10:23:56] <llutz> not to fill a VAR with output*
[08:24] <llutz> oCean:  [10:23:56] <llutz> not to fill a VAR with output*
[08:24] <oCean> llutz: and I answered "of course it will"
[08:24] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: next, ...
[08:25] <llutz> oCean: like "ls -l > temp"?    i doubt
[08:25] <oCean> Sidvee: redirection will work perfectly, The difference in temp and $temp is, that $temp should have a value defined (since it is a variable) and that "temp" is interpreted as an actual (file)name
[08:25] <Sidvee> llutz: Damn I know nothing. :-(
[08:26] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: sudo mount -o ro -t ext4 /dev/loop0 /mnt/flash/
[08:26] <obelus> llutz: Are you sure? I use > a lot in bash.
[08:26] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: sudo mount -o ro -t ext4 /dev/loop0 /mnt/somedir
[08:26] <obelus> Er, sorry, I was scrolled up and didnt see your other message
[08:26] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, same error as before: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, ...
[08:26] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: well, this is a "safer" way then playing with fdisk partition types
[08:26] <barberan> how do I remove Gnome and install KDE?
[08:27] <Sidvee> llutz: So, $temp is a variable name, It can hold a file name as variable too? Or am wrong?
[08:27] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: this just means that the file system type is not (or perhaps not) ext4
[08:27] <llutz> let me rephrase it: you cannot use "ls -l >temp" in that way $temp (the variable, not the filename) holds the output of "ls". you need to use "temp=$(ls -l)" to define a VAR
[08:27] <obelus> Sidvee: You can hold any string or number in a variable.
[08:27] <oCean> Sidvee: this is somewhat out of scope of this channel, since there is also ##bash channel. But in short: you start with a definition:  mytempfile=/tmp/blah.tmp, then you can use it as   ls -al > $mytempfile
[08:28] <DjAngo23> When i look at the id its 84: according to http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html it means: Hibernation partition
[08:28] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: it's a long shot but try, "sudo file /home/username/backup.img"
[08:28] <oCean> llutz: oh, correct. ls -al > temp will create a file called "temp" containing all ls -al output
[08:29] <Sidvee> oCean: Am sorry to bug you people. Didn't realize that. Sorry!
[08:29] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: well, I was under the impression that /dev/sdb1 was the SSD do to fdisk -l reporting 20GB
[08:29] <eutheria> i would just like to say kudos for the improved monitor support, i just pulled my hdmi cable into the side of my laptop
[08:29] <eutheria> it just worked
[08:29] <llutz> oCean: thats correct, i talked about VAR-definition with redirection (>) which won't work
[08:29] <oCean> llutz: no we're on the same page :)
[08:29] <eutheria> and got the resolution right
[08:29] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: the file system type under fdisk is a good bet it's wrong
[08:29] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, /home/django/flash.img: data
[08:29] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: which is prob the problem
[08:29] <llutz> i have to improve my english :(
[08:30] <barberan> How do I change Terminal startup position? I hate it when it sticks to upper-left corner. I want it to be in the center right away after start.
[08:30] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: what was the name of the backup image file?   the "of=" part of the "dd" command
[08:30] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, could it be the BIOS resetting this from time to time ?
[08:30] <Sidvee> llutz: Thanks for handling those lame questions. And sorry to have asked something not right for this forum.
[08:30] <DjAngo23> sudo dd bs=512 if=/dev/sdb1 of=/home/django/flash.img
[08:31] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: ok. have you run the, "sudo losetup /dev/loop0 /home/django/flash.img" command?
[08:31] <DjAngo23> I did
[08:32] <llutz> DjAngo23: bs=512  is default for dd, no need to define it. better to use bigger blocksizes, it will make dd a bit faster in most cases, like bs=4k
[08:32] <DjAngo23> If run again: losetup: /dev/loop0: device is busy
[08:32] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: ok. only need to run once.
[08:32] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: now we have to do a trial/by/error test to see what partition type will mount the flash.img
[08:33] <sandepp> i have quite messed up my python while trying to install django....can you suggest me any tutorial to install django i have newly started ubuntu
[08:33] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, Perfect. But i think it' s something with Hybernation filesystem
[08:33] <iceroot> what is the name of the keyring-map to manage passwords?
[08:33] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: you can look at, "man mount" under the -t, --type section for partition types
[08:34] <ikonia> -t is filesystem type - not partition type
[08:34] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: Windows could have thought the drive was hybernation-device and modified it (guessing due to your ntfs fdisk -l)
[08:34] <DjAngo23> ikonia, Thanks, i didn't know there was a difference.
[08:35] <obelus> unimatrix_overlo: I don't think Windows uses 'hibernation devices'. They use hiberfil.sys on the root of the system drive.
[08:35] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, Even if it's strange that it actually did zo, because i did not boot windows before the problem occurs.
[08:35] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: but if this drive had (good point ikonia) a previous partition that got overwritten by M$ this would be a possible steps to recover such partition
[08:36] <obelus> unimatrix_overlo: Windows tends to have a policy of not touching filesystems that aren't fat16, fat32, exfat, ntfs, I believe. So Windows would not have overwitten it unless told to.
[08:36] <DjAngo23> obelus, I called Acer a week ago to ask what the ssd was for. They said the use it as Hybernation disk.
[08:37] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: M$ can use a flash/SSD as "speed-boost" (not sure the nature) so yes (obelus) it should be in the filesystem as hiberfil.sys
[08:38] <obelus> If Acer was correct (which I slightly doubt), then it would just be hiberfil.sys in the root of that drive, and would not have modified it if the filesystem was changed. If it was in use as readyboost, I dont know what it would store the cache as, but it still wouldnt have done anything to the device if the filesystem was changed.
[08:39] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23+obelus: regardless hibernation/swap the partition flash.img should contain the file system
[08:39] <obelus> When it loses a ReadyBoost (the speed-up used on flash devices) drive, it just doesn't use it.
[08:39] <Clinton> Hi everyone I am looking for help with Ubuntu 10.04 network manager
[08:39] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23+obelus: we just have to figure out the type to mount the image
[08:39] <obelus> unimatrix_overlo: Yes, it should have the filesystem, I was only saying that Windows would not have changed anything on the device by itself if it was already changed to another filesystem.
[08:40] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: the dangerous fix it to do a fdisk. then change to partition type to what you think is the correct one
[08:40] <unimatrix_overlo> (is...)
[08:40] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: just taking the safe route
[08:41] <kara> Is it possible to load OSX snow leng you have on the hard drive is ubuntu?opard to a macbook if the only thi
[08:41] <kara> leopard*
[08:42] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: just to double check... Do you know for sure that the SSD was used for storage?
[08:43] <DjAngo23> Yreah, i had my IDE on it and some GIT repo
[08:43] <kara> Is it possible to install osx snow leopard to a macbook if the only os you have on it is ubuntu?
[08:43] <Clinton> Hi everyone, please can someone help me with network problem. I am trying to use the shared to other computers option for my wired connection to share my 3g connection in Ubuntu 10.04, but when I use this setting my wired connection refuses to connect. I previously had a problem where the connection would connect and reconnect and I google searched it and fixed the problem been dnsmasq, there is an official bug registered with solutio
[08:43] <Clinton> n for that problem, but now instead of disconnecting and reconnecting my wired connection the whole time it just wont connect. I click to connect the wired connection and it says wired network disconnected. I am using this method of sharing the internet over many other computers with different distro version
[08:43] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: then the file /home/username/flash.img contains a bit-for-bit copy of the partition /dev/sdb1
[08:44] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: try installing AcetoneISO
[08:44] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: it has a good interface for mounting images
[08:46] <Clinton> Hi everyone, please can someone help me with network problem. I am trying to use the shared to other computers option for my wired connection to share my 3g connection in Ubuntu 10.04, but when I use this setting my wired connection refuses to connect. I previously had a problem where the connection would connect and reconnect and I google searched it and fixed the problem been dnsmasq, there is an official bug registered with solutio
[08:46] <Clinton> n for that problem, but now instead of disconnecting and reconnecting my wired connection the whole time it just wont connect. I click to connect the wired connection and it says wired network disconnected. I am using this method of sharing the internet over many other computers with different distro version
[08:46] <Clinton> quit
[08:46] <FloodBot1> Clinton: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:47] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: it looks like you'll have to convert the *.img file to *.iso before mounting
[08:49] <pungi-man> i am currently using 32-bit ubuntu 12.04 and a intel processor capable of supporting 64-bit. i want to use 64-bit. and when i went to the site, it said the 32-bit are available for intel and 64-bit for AMD. then how can i download 64-bit for intel??
[08:49] <ikonia> pungi-man: amd = intel
[08:50] <llutz> pungi-man: amd64 is intel too
[08:50] <ikonia> pungi-man: amd64 = 64bit computing for both intel/amd
[08:50] <pungi-man> ikonia, llutz so i will have no problems if i install 64-bit in intel??
[08:50] <ikonia> pungi-man: no
[08:50] <ikonia> pungi-man: it should be fine
[08:51] <clinton_shane_wr> Hi everyone, I was hoping someone can help me with a problem I have in Ubuntu 10.04
[08:51] <pungi-man> ikonia, llutz ! okay thanks for the help.....i will try it
[08:51] <eutheria> pungi-man, what they mean to say is, amd64 refers to the instructions set inside the CPU, yes it seems confusing however it was amd who designed the version of the 64bit instructions we use today
[08:52] <eutheria> pungi-man, both intel and amd cpu's have the same 64bit instruction set
[08:52] <clinton_shane_wr> can anyone see this??
[08:52] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: if u still need help please PM me.
[08:52] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: yes
[08:52] <pungi-man> clinton_shane_wr, what are u talking about??
[08:53] <devil> hello
[08:53] <eutheria> pungi-man, apart from itainium cpu's which is the instruction set intel originally came up with for 64bit cpu's
[08:53] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, It still not working, so i think i have to format
[08:53] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, I have to reboot and look into the bios to see what the bios changes
[08:53] <clinton_shane_wr> hey there guys
[08:53] <DjAngo23> In order to prevent is from hapening agina
[08:53] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: yes that would give you functionality back, but may loose data
[08:53] <clinton_shane_wr> I am looking to find out if anyone knows and has experience with ubuntu 10.04
[08:53] <clinton_shane_wr> ?
[08:53] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: BIOS doesn't change partition types
[08:54] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: do you have a problem/question about ubuntu 10.04 ?
[08:54] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, I think there is no other solution
[08:54] <clinton_shane_wr> yes I do
[08:54] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: then just ask, if someone knows they will answer
[08:54] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, I understand, but just after de BIOS, ACER would have installed something that is restoring the partition type to 84 (hybernation)
[08:54] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: fdisk. then change type to LINUX. mkfs.ext4 -L LABEL /dev/sdb1
[08:55] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: yeah, sometimes they have "recovery" methods
[08:55] <DjAngo23> I changed to LINUX in fdisk with gpart
[08:55] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: they end up "restoring" the drive to factory settings.
[08:55] <DjAngo23> but it wants to rewrite strang partitiion tables of 0mb
[08:56] <DjAngo23> unimatrix_overlo, I think that happend.
[08:56] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: ouch.
[08:56] <DjAngo23> Yep, so i didn't write
[08:56] <DjAngo23> But still, quite painfull to see
[08:57] <AGoodName> sup
[08:57] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: well at least you have a flash.img to play with
[08:57] <DjAngo23> So, i think i have lost it. But I don' t want it to happen again. So i have to look when it does happen.
[08:57] <AGoodName> GUYS
[08:57] <AGoodName> GUYS
[08:57] <AGoodName> GUESS WHAT?!!
[08:58] <codeshepherd> i am setting up a server, our company has only one machine as server.. can i use chef for people to replicate the server configuration in their local machines? Is that what chef was built for?
[08:58] <ikonia> AGoodName: is this an ubuntu support question ?
[08:58] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: Yeah, there might be, hit F4 to recover system
[08:58] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: at boot time
[08:58] <AGoodName> PENIS
[08:58] <ikonia> AGoodName: please check the topic of this channel before posting again
[08:59] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: also there is clonezilla. You may want to give that a try before formatting.
[08:59] <AGoodName> This is AGoodNames friend. I have no idea what I'm doing here
[08:59] <clinton_shane_wr> ikonia: well my problem is I am trying to share my wired connection by using the "shared to other computers" option in the network and it refuses to connect my wired connection.
[08:59] <ikonia> AGoodName: then type /part
[08:59] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: http://clonezilla.org/
[08:59] <DjAngo23> Thanks for your patience and efforts unimatrix_overlo and obelus .
[08:59] <clinton_shane_wr> after I apply the shared to other computers option
[09:00] <clinton_shane_wr> can anyone help me?
[09:00] <unimatrix_overlo> DjAngo23: http://www.sysresccd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage
[09:00] <ikonia> !ics | clinton_shane_wr
[09:00] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: have a read of that URL, it walks you through how to set it up
[09:00] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: did you try setup with a static connection on the client side, as I assume you failed to setup dhcpd
[09:00] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: see if there is a step you've missed
[09:00] <goddard> my keyring is screwed
[09:00] <goddard> how can i fix it?
[09:01] <clinton_shane_wr> ok, I guess I would need dhcpd or is that installed standard with Ubuntu 10.04?
[09:01] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: check the link ubottu sent you
[09:01] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: it walks you through it
[09:01] <clinton_shane_wr> ok
[09:01] <clinton_shane_wr> thank you
[09:01] <diverdude> Ok...i have a problem. I am on a network with only port 80 open. I have a 86 MB file i need to transport away from this computer, preferrebly to my server which runs apache but also runs ssh. The computer cannot mount usb drives or any new filesystem. How can i get my 86MB file outta here?
[09:01] <suborbital> suos.
[09:01] <ikonia> diverdude: contact the people who run the network
[09:02] <diverdude> ikonia: what will that help?
[09:02] <argief> diverdude: gmail?
[09:02] <ikonia> diverdude: they can make an execption for you to transfer the file
[09:02] <ikonia> diverdude: (assuming it's allowed)
[09:02] <clinton_shane_wr> ikonia I have already been through this page but my router does not have a WAN port which I need to setup my connection through my router
[09:02] <clinton_shane_wr> I cannot understand
[09:02] <diverdude> argief: gmail can send such big files?
[09:02] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: your router does have a wan port - it's the thing that connects your router to the internet
[09:02] <clinton_shane_wr> why I cannot use shared to other computers option when I use this in other distros of Ubuntu without problems
[09:03] <argief> diverdude: i assume so? i have not had problems, give it a go?
[09:03] <suborbital> sups.
[09:03] <clinton_shane_wr> a physical port to connect the lan cable into
[09:03] <clinton_shane_wr> I have 4 ethernet ports no wan port
[09:03] <diverdude> argief: only supprts up to 25 mb :(
[09:03] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: the wan port is the port that connects your router to the internet
[09:03] <suborbital> !busta ryhmes
[09:03] <clinton_shane_wr> I believe you can just use the router as a switch
[09:03] <ikonia> suborbital: please stop
[09:03] <chu> suborbital: Can we help?
[09:04] <suborbital> hmmm
[09:04] <ikonia> suborbital: the topic of this channel is ubuntu technical support
[09:04] <ikonia> suborbital: please try to keep to that topic
[09:04] <suborbital> you ant to rhyme with me?
[09:04] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: your server has no internet conectivity?   you have to start from that before thinking of sharing
[09:04] <argief> diverdude: gdrive?  dropbox?
[09:04] <clinton_shane_wr> I am using a 3g modem
[09:04] <clinton_shane_wr> to connect to internet
[09:04] <clinton_shane_wr> and I am trying to share it over the network
[09:04] <suborbital> s/dat ant/want
[09:04] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: then your 3g connection is your wan
[09:04] <clinton_shane_wr> ok
[09:04] <suborbital>  dat ant:: dat ass
[09:04] <argief> diverdude: zip the file and break it up into 25m pieces.. :-)
[09:04] <chu> suborbital: This channel is *strictly* support. If you want to chat with people, join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[09:04] <ikonia> suborbital: the topic of this channel is ubuntu technical support
[09:04] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: ok, so it's the interface your 3g modem has created,
[09:05] <clinton_shane_wr> I am trying to use wvdial
[09:05] <clinton_shane_wr> to connect to the internet and to create the ppp0 interface
[09:05] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: step back for a moment
[09:05] <diverdude> argief: ahh yes dropbox...good idea
[09:05] <clinton_shane_wr> ok
[09:05] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: your already connected to the internet aren't you on the 3G or not?
[09:05] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: 1.) is your machine with the 3g dongle connected to the internet ?
[09:05] <clinton_shane_wr> yes
[09:05] <clinton_shane_wr> right now
[09:05] <llutz> diverdude: do you have ssh access to your server? then stop webserver there, let ssh listen on port 80, scp the file to the server, revert settings.
[09:05] <clinton_shane_wr> but
[09:06] <clinton_shane_wr> connecting 3g connection through the network manager does not create a ppp0 interface
[09:06] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: right, then you do'nt need to use wvdial or anything - you are already connected
[09:06] <argief> clinton_shane_wr: iptables forwarding?
[09:06] <clinton_shane_wr> I have not set the iptables yet
[09:06] <clinton_shane_wr> if I dont have a ppp0 interface
[09:06] <clinton_shane_wr> how can I forward it?
[09:06] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: your interface will be eth1 or wlan1 or something like that
[09:07] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: the 3g card will just be visible as a normal network card
[09:07] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: if you already have a connection to 3G with conectivity then you don't need wvdial
[09:07] <clinton_shane_wr> if I goto ifconfig ppp0 when I am connected 3g through network manager
[09:07] <clinton_shane_wr> ok
[09:07] <jolaren> I can't get irssi to run on autostart! I am having problems with the -U command I think.. user is "cc" screen -U cc -S auto -d -m irssi
[09:07] <jolaren> added it to rc.local
[09:07] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: all you need do is share that connection over probly eth0
[09:08] <clinton_shane_wr> yes but if I use shared to other computers option on eth0 in network settings then it refuses to connect the wired connection
[09:08] <clinton_shane_wr> so I guess then it has to be done through terminall manually
[09:09] <clinton_shane_wr> because obviously this option shared to other computers makes it quick and easy
[09:09] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: that part you can work around by setting your client to a static connection to your eth0 network or you can setup dhcpd to do it
[09:09] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: do you know the interface name of your 3g connection ?
[09:09] <clinton_shane_wr> just a moment
[09:09] <clinton_shane_wr> well thats the thing ikonia
[09:10] <clinton_shane_wr> I can ifconfig and it says ppp0 but if I try to ifconfig ppp0 then it says the interface does not exist
[09:11] <clinton_shane_wr> ok wait sorry
[09:11] <clinton_shane_wr> it is able to talk to ppp0 with ifconfig
[09:11] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: network manager should have been able to setup ppp0 to connect to your provider and as it sounds you can already surf on the server side
[09:11] <clinton_shane_wr> so the interface is ppp0
[09:11] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr do "sudo ifconfig -a" please pastebin it
[09:11] <clinton_shane_wr> ok no problem
[09:11] <thebrasse> hi! i have installed qtile as my window manager on 12.04. now all sorts of stuff has stopped working. :) the compose key among other things. can anyone here tell me how i can enable it again? is there some way to run the keyboard setup program outside of unity?
[09:12] <goddard> what kernel does Quantal use?
[09:13] <clinton_shane_wr> ikonia: please check http://pastebin.com/n59ThAnN
[09:13] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: the device iss ppp0 then
[09:14] <clinton_shane_wr> yes sorry I did say that now now
[09:14] <clinton_shane_wr> and I am able to successfully ifconfig ppp0 as well
[09:14] <Guest78587> anyone have an idea how I cah change the size of the panels after going back to the ordinary gnome?
[09:14] <clinton_shane_wr> so according to the ics document I can set this up through just a switch
[09:14] <clinton_shane_wr> no need for a router?
[09:15] <clinton_shane_wr> ikonia thanks a lot for your help
[09:15] <ikonia> no problem
[09:15] <clinton_shane_wr> I really appreciate it
[09:15] <clinton_shane_wr> :)
[09:15] <clinton_shane_wr> can I add you as a friend?
[09:15] <ikonia> not a problem, thats why people are here
[09:15] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: no need for anything like that
[09:16] <clinton_shane_wr> oh ok
[09:16] <clinton_shane_wr> cool thanks again
[09:16] <ikonia> no problem at all
[09:16] <clinton_shane_wr> will be back if I dont come right
[09:19] <Guest78587> or how come right clicking and properties on the panels doesnt work anymore
[09:21] <abouossama> hi how are you all ??
[09:21] <abouossama> can i ask about a problem that i have in ubuntu
[09:22] <pungi-man> tell abouossama
[09:22] <abouossama> i cant change the keyboard layouts in gnome-shell and unity
[09:22] <jennie> hello i 3 years ago i tried to install driver for canon LBP 2900B and at that time there were no support from canon so i have to left ubuntu at that time , now i again want to install ubuntu and want to install canon LBP 2900 B driver so you please check that following driver provided by canon will work in ubuntu or not ?http://support-in.canon-asia.com/contents/IN/EN/0900772424.html
[09:23] <ikonia> jennie: canon are the people who will tell you if it works
[09:23] <jennie> please check that link above
[09:23] <ikonia> jennie: I did, and canon are the ones who will tell you if it works
[09:24] <jennie> so i have to install ubuntu and then check ?
[09:24] <ikonia> jennie: or contact canon and ask them
[09:24] <jennie> if it aint supported then why they provided driver ?
[09:25] <ikonia> jennie: ask canon
[09:25] <jennie> :-(
[09:26] <jennie> what is the link about i provided above
[09:26] <jennie> ?
[09:26] <abouossama> i cant change the keyboard layouts in gnome-shell and unity pungi-man
[09:26] <ikonia> jennie: a download link
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> hmm.
[09:27] <pungi-man> abouossama, go to system settings and then to keyboard layout... there u will find the keyboard layouts u need
[09:27] <jennie> ikonia I also know that it is download link but for drivers for what ?
[09:28] <ikonia> jennie: for linux
[09:28] <abouossama> yes i know but the problem i change it and i add alt+shift to change layout but it does nt wotk
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> ppd files for cups?
[09:28] <jennie> then why it wont work in ubuntu ?
[09:28] <ikonia> jennie: because there are many different types/versions of ubuntu
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> canon has a history of poor drivers in linux also.
[09:28] <ikonia> jennie: ask canon what linux requirements/versions it has/supported
[09:29] <abouossama> yes i know but the problem i change it and i add alt+shift to change layout but it does nt wotk pungi-man
[09:29] <pungi-man> then u have to change it from compiz settings ... the shortcut keys
[09:29] <abouossama> ahh ok i'll try for compiz pungi-man
[09:43] <abouossama> pungi-man: the same problem, you know when i change the layouts manually it change in the panel but in the reality it doas nt change idont know why
[09:46] <Jancoover> Hello ladies and gentlemen :) Could you help me? I just need to know the meaning of the phrase "Bye for now".
[09:46] <DJones> Jancoover: Probably a question best asked in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:48] <Jancoover> I have already tried asking it in several channels but nobody wants to answer my question (
[09:48] <oCean> Jancoover: this channel is for ubuntu technical support only
[09:49] <obelus> Jancoover: It's basically the same as "see you later"
[09:49] <augustl> is update.rc-d still used to configure boot services?
[09:50] <Jancoover> obelus,TY :)
[09:50] <syn-ack> augustl, No.
[09:50] <obelus> Jancoover: no problem, but in the future, please remember that this channel is only for support with ubuntu problems.
[09:50] <Jancoover> obelus, OK
[09:51] <syn-ack> augustl check out the "service" command
[09:52] <Barco_> I'm having problems with what seems like opplocks in samba. Frequently a file on the share gets cleared to 0bytes. Anyone seen this? Seems to be related to opplocks but I've disabled these explicitly.
[09:52] <augustl> syn-ack: allright, tnx
[09:52] <augustl> syn-ack: hmm, "man service" wasn't exactly a wall of text
[09:52] <Jancoover> I have a problem with FatRat on ubuntu 10.10. How can I download videos from YouTube using it?
[09:53] <syn-ack> check out the infopage, augustl :P
[09:53] <augustl> syn-ack: what's the infopage?
[09:53] <syn-ack> august it's the FSF's version of man just "info service"
[09:53] <oCean> Jancoover: 10.10 is End Of Life and no longer supported, try upgrading to a recent version first
[09:54] <augustl> syn-ack: never heard about that one, thanks
[09:54] <augustl> same content as the man page though :)
[09:54] <syn-ack> august yeah, since Debian is so close to the FSF you will have better luck with it
[09:54] <syn-ack> augustl, standby
[09:55] <syn-ack> augustl, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-controlling-access-to-linux-services.html
[09:56] <augustl> update-rc.d seems to still be working
[09:56] <clinton_shane_wr> hi ikonia
[09:56] <clinton_shane_wr> hi everyone
[09:57] <aspidites> hello
[09:57] <aspidites> or something like that
[09:57] <clinton_shane_wr> I am looking for help with internet connection sharing in ubuntu 10.04: ppp0 3g modem connected to internet eth1 network adapter connected to switch
[09:57] <Guest11885> hi
[09:58] <clinton_shane_wr> I have followed instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[09:58] <clinton_shane_wr> and with no avail
[09:58] <aspidites> clinton_shane_wr: which method did you try?
[09:58] <clinton_shane_wr> the first
[09:58] <aspidites> if all, which are you most concerned with getting to work?
[09:59] <aspidites> ah ok
[09:59] <clinton_shane_wr> iptable forward
[09:59] <clinton_shane_wr> I have a copy of the settings I have used
[09:59] <clinton_shane_wr> can I supply it ?
[09:59] <aspidites> so what isn't working? that is, what indication of failure are you getting?
[09:59] <aspidites> clinton_shane_wr: not sure of the rules here, but general rule of thumb is long texts should be pastebin'd
[10:00] <clinton_shane_wr> http://pastebin.com/C5k65rRX
[10:00] <clinton_shane_wr> there it is
[10:00] <clinton_shane_wr> I created a bash file from an example given on the tutorial that shows how to create internet connection sharing
[10:01] <clinton_shane_wr> for ppp0 and eth0 (which in my case is eth1)
[10:01] <Jonii> Hey, I have Ubuntu 12.4 and Unity, how to make it to not lock itself when I close the lid, but still lock itelf after 5 minutes of idleness
[10:01] <lo0m> hi guys, i attempted to install 12.04 on older vaio laptop.. it doesn't boot USB (not an option in BIOS) and doesn't seem to load CDs either.. there were some windows so i used plop to install to mbr and then used usb drive to isntall ubuntu.. everything went fine, but after reboot i see only blinking cursor. i think i need to change something in grub , but using shift to show grub menu doesn't work. any suggestions?
[10:02] <aspidites> clinton_shane_wr: and what happens? traceback? no response? failure message?
[10:02] <killerkink_> join #arm-netbook
[10:03] <abouossama> when i change the layouts manually it change in the panel but in the reality it doas nt change idont know why
[10:07] <aspidites> shoot. i gotta go. sorry i wasn't of any help. best i can say is break down the script into smaller parts and test them individually until you can find a single point of failure, clinton_shane_wr
[10:07] <clinton_shane_wr> thanks
[10:07] <clinton_shane_wr> ok
[10:07] <clinton_shane_wr> let me start again
[10:08] <clinton_shane_wr> anyone here that can help me with setting up internet connection sharing on ubuntu 10.04, ppp0 is 3g modem and eth1 is connected to network
[10:09] <clinton_shane_wr> I have followed the instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[10:09] <clinton_shane_wr> and I have bash script which I have used to setup the configuration
[10:09] <clinton_shane_wr> can anyone help
[10:09] <Barcode> Anyone here that can help with Opplock problems and disapearing files on Samba share?
[10:09] <nick87720z> test message
[10:09] <nick87720z> hi all
[10:10] <clinton_shane_wr> looking for help with internet connection sharing on ubuntu 10.04
[10:10] <clinton_shane_wr> anyone
[10:10] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: stop asking the same question every 60 seconds
[10:10] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: if someone can help - they will
[10:10] <oCean> Barcode: you could try #ubuntu-server channel, specific for server help..
[10:10] <clinton_shane_wr> hey ikonia
[10:10] <clinton_shane_wr> I was chatting with you earlier
[10:10] <clinton_shane_wr> please can you help me
[10:10] <ikonia> clinton_shane_wr: I'm sorry, I'm busy at the moment
[10:10] <clinton_shane_wr> ok no problem
[10:17] <nick87720z> Need some help. I formated USB-HDD from NTFS to Ext4. More exactly, i have two partitions on it: 1 - Ext4, 2 - NTFS. I need to move files from 2 to 1. But first is mounted for root, appart 2. And so, i can't do something on first partition without root shell. Is there way to make it automounted for user? Since it is usb dev, i'm not sure in fstab upgrading: when i load system with some usb flash disk inserted, usbhdd device file
[10:17] <nick87720z> name may change e.g., from sdb to sdc.
[10:17] <hangdeadman> Hi I am new to IRC and need help with my ubuntu 12.04 desktop, my login screen somehow reverted to the old login screen like from ubuntu 10.x!!!!!
[10:19] <hangdeadman> is my question posted in the right area?
[10:20] <wawowe> nick87720z: mount -o remount=rw,user
[10:20] <crizis> hangdeadman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[10:20] <crizis> hangdeadman: sounds like you have gdm installed/selected instead
[10:20] <hangdeadman> crizis: that terminal command should fix it?
[10:21] <clinton_shane_wr> hi I am looking for help with Ubuntu 10.04 internet connection sharing
[10:21] <ranveer5289> Guys I was planning to but the new Acer D270 netbook but I heard that it comes with a Intel GMA 3600 graphics and it doesn't play well with linux. I mean people have reported issue related to resolution and brightness. So, is there any hope that in future we will have a fully functional driver for GMA 3600 or one should just drop the idea of buying these netbooks and wait for better ones.
[10:22] <hangdeadman> crizis: thank you!!!
[10:23] <crizis> np :)
[10:23] <Pierreb> anyone know of a good rdp server for ubuntu that works?
[10:23] <nick87720z> thanks, wawowe, but it is rather failsafe way :)
[10:25] <hangdeadman> My boot/login is very slow (30 seconds or more each) after upgrade from ubuntu 10.10 to ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 1545, what may be the problem?
[10:26] <hangdeadman> after I solve this issue my computer will be perfectly to my liking! any help would be greatly appreciated!
[10:28] <wawowe> hangdeadman: hit esc on the boot screen to see what it's doing. as far as slow login, it's probably just slow
[10:28] <nick87720z> ha, just changed permissions for mount dir :) (could not expect before, that changes will affect device too)
[10:28] <clinton_shane_wr> hi everyone, just waiting to see if anyone can help me with Ubuntu 10.04 internet connection sharing
[10:28] <clinton_shane_wr> thanks in advance
[10:29] <wawowe> clinton_shane_wr: explain your issue
[10:29] <hangdeadman> thanks wawowe
[10:29] <hangdeadman> !!
[10:32] <prabuinet> hi, i've connected an external monitor to mackbookpro, whenever I logout of gnome both my screens are blank. only after I remove the vga cable from laptop the login screen is displayed
[10:32] <prabuinet> anybody faced this?
[10:35] <anonymous_> hi
[10:35] <anonymous_> how are you all
[10:35] <anonymous_> ?
[10:35] <anonymous_> any one online?
[10:35] <Blackshirt> Good
[10:35] <Blackshirt> Yes
[10:35] <anonymous_> i need a help blackshirt
[10:36] <anonymous_> actually m backing up my ubuntu machine
[10:36] <Blackshirt> What your problem? Maybe someone can help you?
[10:36] <anonymous_> can you suggest me the best possible way. i am using emastersys
[10:36] <anonymous_> sorry kmastersys
[10:36] <wawowe> prabuinet: i have an issue sort of like that. i just ctrl+alt+f1 and kill X from there whenever i need to do it
[10:36] <slikts> why do the repos have an old version of chromium? latest stable is 19 afaik
[10:37] <anonymous_> can anyone help me
[10:37] <anonymous_> ?
[10:37] <Blackshirt> What you want to backup spesifically?
[10:37] <anonymous_> actually i need to install windows os
[10:37] <anonymous_> m a penetratation tester
[10:37] <wawowe> prabuinet: try ctrl+alt+f1 sudo service lightdm restart
[10:37] <anonymous_> i have all my scripts and modules install in ubuntu
[10:37] <amanthakur> hi guys, i wanted to know is it possible to run a daemon a normal user? I don't want to use the root priviledge.
[10:37] <anonymous_> so i need the best possible way to backup
[10:38] <anonymous_> so that i can reinstall with all my settings
[10:38] <anonymous_> preloaded in ubuntu
[10:38] <anonymous_> so kindly help
[10:38] <anonymous_> ...!
[10:38] <clinton_shane_wr> wawoe
[10:38] <clinton_shane_wr> are you still there
[10:38] <anonymous_> ?
[10:38] <wawowe> amanthakur: yes
[10:38] <anonymous_> please help
[10:38] <anonymous_> if you can
[10:39] <wawowe> clinton_shane_wr: yes
[10:39] <anonymous_> anyone there
[10:39] <anonymous_> ?
[10:39] <anonymous_> to help?
[10:39] <amanthakur> wawowe, how can i do so?
[10:39] <clinton_shane_wr> my problem is I am trying to setup 3g connection over network my interfaces: ppp0 3g and eth1 wired connection
[10:39] <wawowe> amanthakur: same way you would as root
[10:39] <clinton_shane_wr> and I have followed the instructions
[10:39] <Blackshirt> Anonymous, yes, remastersys can be used as a backup tool, but sorry, i don't play with it before, maybe someone others could help you
[10:39] <clinton_shane_wr> on the internet connection sharing page
[10:39] <clinton_shane_wr> and I have have no avail
[10:39] <clinton_shane_wr> internet connection not sharing
[10:40] <clinton_shane_wr> I have a bash script file
[10:40] <amanthakur> wawowe, oh ok thanks :)
[10:40] <slikts> anonymous_: god will help you
[10:40] <clinton_shane_wr> that I have used from the website
[10:40] <satyanash> Hi, I am trying to install a userscript on Ubuntu Firefox I cant seem to find the INstall User Script option?
[10:40] <clinton_shane_wr> http://pastebin.com/C5k65rRX
[10:40] <wawowe> clinton_shane_wr: link me to the instructions you followed
[10:40] <clinton_shane_wr> ok
[10:41] <clinton_shane_wr> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[10:41] <clinton_shane_wr> I used the following section: GUI Method via Network Manager (Ubuntu 9.10 and up)
[10:41] <clinton_shane_wr> with the example given at the bottom of the page
[10:41] <Blackshirt> Clinton_shane you should enable ip forwarding in the kernel, the enable masquerade through iptables
[10:42] <wawowe> clinton_shane_wr: echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[10:42] <clinton_shane_wr> blackshirt does the internet connection sharing not explain how to do this?
[10:42] <clinton_shane_wr> ok what does this command do wawowe
[10:42] <clinton_shane_wr> is this the enabling
[10:42] <clinton_shane_wr> of the ip forwarding
[10:42] <wawowe> yes
[10:43] <clinton_shane_wr> that blackshirt is refering to
[10:43] <clinton_shane_wr> well I did run this command
[10:43] <clinton_shane_wr> wawowe did you get my pastebin link
[10:44] <wawowe> clinton_shane_wr: yeah
[10:44] <wawowe> clinton_shane_wr: flush your tables and run the script again
[10:44] <clinton_shane_wr> i have something I want to check with you
[10:44] <clinton_shane_wr> in the bash script
[10:44] <clinton_shane_wr> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i ppp0 -p tcp --dport 3074 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.42.0.2
[10:45] <clinton_shane_wr> my problem is10.42.0.2
[10:45] <clinton_shane_wr> is this trying to assign an ip address to a 3g modem
[10:45] <clinton_shane_wr> because it wont work
[10:45] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: ya I noticed that as you had 10.42.42.42 before
[10:46] <clinton_shane_wr> what I am having trouble understanding here with this script in the above code is the destination 10.42.0.2 is this assigned to ppp0?
[10:47] <clinton_shane_wr> because ppp0, my 3g modem, assigns its own generated ip address every time you connect
[10:47] <clinton_shane_wr> what I am asking is, for a 3g modem is this correct?
[10:47] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: doesn't it alway p2p to 10.42.42.42?
[10:47] <m_fulder> hello!
[10:47] <clinton_shane_wr> sacarlson what do you mean
[10:48] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: you iptables -a ; last I saw showed your ppp0 at 10.42.42.42  not sure if it changes or not
[10:48] <nodable> hello everyone
[10:48] <nodable>  i have three old desktops each with about 40GB of space, they are all able to boot from CD, they have ethernet port etc
[10:48] <nodable> i was thinking of wiping them and loading Ubuntu Server Ed. 8.04
[10:49] <nodable> opinions?
[10:49] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: I also don't understand the --dport 3074 in your script as what is that port used for?
[10:49] <clinton_shane_wr> i got this from ubutu document webpage
[10:49] <m_fulder> I would need a bit of help with ubuntus access control+VSFTPD .. I would like ftp users to have read acess to all files in a folder but be able to change only a few.. so I thought of chmoding all files to 700 and then the ones that the user should have acess to I sat to 707...now the problem is, the FTP user can still rename and delete all files in that dir .. why is that? :O
[10:49] <fidel> nodable: why would you use such an old ubuntu version?
[10:49] <clinton_shane_wr> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[10:50] <clinton_shane_wr> the script said just change wlan0 to ppp0 for a 3g modem
[10:50] <clinton_shane_wr> so I did just that
[10:50] <nodable> well i thought because they are kind of old computers and i don't know how much space a newer version would take up
[10:50] <nodable> also …i have that one burned to disc already
[10:50] <wawowe> m_fulder: 4 is read-only
[10:50] <fidel> nodable: space is not a problem with your 40gn hdd
[10:51] <clinton_shane_wr> sacarlson could you kindly review the link for me https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[10:51] <wawowe> m_fulder: chmod 444 and chmod 744
[10:51] <clinton_shane_wr> I have already run through this tutorial
[10:51] <nodable> ohh perfect..so do you think it is worth my time to do this, or better to take another route?
[10:51] <clinton_shane_wr> wawowe
[10:51] <fidel> nodable: what might be an issue with latest versions is that the default desktop-einvorments might need more 3d power then your gfx-cards can provide - but at the ends its at least party the question what desktop-enviroment you are looking for
[10:52] <clinton_shane_wr> did you say I should just flush
[10:52] <clinton_shane_wr> my tables
[10:52] <clinton_shane_wr> I can pastebin my iptables.sav file if need be
[10:52] <wawowe> clinton_shane_wr: yes, flush and reload them
[10:52] <m_fulder> wawpe but doesn't 700 mean that only the owner has full access and the group+others doesn't have acess at all?
[10:52] <m_fulder> wawoe*
[10:52] <wawowe> m_fulder: yes
[10:53] <m_fulder> wawowe then how come the ftp user still can delete a file when its in 700 mode?
[10:53] <clinton_shane_wr> http://pastebin.com/WFKUeEmw
[10:53] <m_fulder> he is not the owner of that file *
[10:53] <nodable> Gnome i suppose?
[10:53] <nodable> I don't really know?
[10:53] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: seems your masqarade script should look more like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1017735/
[10:53] <shaneo> :( I could only afford the give indie bundle .80 cents
[10:54] <nodable> i dont *gnow
[10:54] <wawowe> m_fulder: is it in their home directory? and are you sure they don't own it
[10:54] <shaneo> cool concept though pay what you want wish all companies were like that
[10:54] <m_fulder> wawowe, yeah I have sat it as their home dir, but can it be more then one owner to same dir?
[10:55] <nodable> or XFCE maybe
[10:55] <nodable> would that be a better choice?
[10:55] <wawowe> m_fulder: make a new group and add everyone you want to have access to that group
[10:56] <wawowe> m_fulder: then chown -R root:yournewgroup folder
[10:56] <fidel> nodable: xfce might be a good idea
[10:56] <L00NG> anyone bought Humble Bundle V ? Bastion can run on ubuntu 12.04, but has no sound, how can I fix it?
[10:56] <wawowe> m_fulder: and chmod -R 770 folder
[10:56] <m_fulder> wawowe, ah yeah smart will try it on thanks! :)
[10:56] <nodable> ok thanks for your help fidel!
[10:56] <fidel> nodable: how about testing a current live cd on those old boxes?
[10:57] <fidel> might give you a first impression how well 12.04 might work on them ...or not ;)
[10:57] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: I also noted last I seen your ifconfig -a that you didn't have eth1 setup with a static ipv4 address, did you fix that?
[10:57] <clinton_shane_wr> yes I set manual static ip through network manager
[10:58] <tMH> ppl, I am trying to compile screen on ubuntu and getting this "configure: error: !!! no tgetent - no screen". Kernel is 2.6.32-41-generic-pae #89-Ubuntu
[10:58] <tMH> how to fix that, tell me please ?
[10:58] <clinton_shane_wr> ip: 10.42.0.1 subnet: 255.255.255.0 gateway: I left blank
[10:58] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: ok then all you need do with the script I gave above is put your client into static also with manual gateway to your eth1 address and add a dns address to it
[10:58] <wawowe> tMH: pastebin the error
[10:59] <clinton_shane_wr> what if there is no dns server currently setup?
[10:59] <clinton_shane_wr> I uninstalled dnsmasq
[10:59] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: oh ok so that's your eth1 is 10.42.0.1 and your ppp0 is 10.42.42.42 ?
[10:59] <nodable> i'll give that a try fidel haha  :)
[10:59] <tMH> wawowe - http://pastebin.com/381XYhn8
[11:00] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: without a dns then you won't be able to ping google.com but you can ping 8.8.8.8
[11:00] <Varikonniemi> hello, what package should i file a bug report against when the music player is acting up?
[11:00] <Varikonniemi> and how?
[11:00] <m_fulder> hm but wawowe, the chown -R root:mynewgroup myFolder command, won't it make the group a owner and then the owner flags will count instead of the group flags?
[11:00] <nodable> i have they all sucking up the electricity in the house…the power company is going to think this is some sort of pot grow-op
[11:00] <clinton_shane_wr> ppp0 in the script is set to 10.42.0.2, where did you see 10.42.42.42 and ppp0 is a 3g modem and it assigns its own ip address everytime you make a connection
[11:01] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: if you add to your client the dns address of 8.8.8.8 then it might work that's done by editing /etc/resolv.conf
[11:01] <nodable> ill have DEA busting down my door while an arial drone takes out my computers
[11:01] <wawowe> m_fulder: make mynewgroup the default group for ftp users
[11:01] <clinton_shane_wr> 8.8.8.8 on the hosting computer
[11:01] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: or can be changed in network manager
[11:01] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: no on the client
[11:01] <clinton_shane_wr> oh
[11:01] <clinton_shane_wr> ok
[11:01] <clinton_shane_wr> cool
[11:01] <clinton_shane_wr> did you read above
[11:01] <wawowe> m_fulder: then every file they upload will be in the same group no matter who uploaded it
[11:02] <curiousx> aloha all :D
[11:02] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: I just came back so I may not have read all the above
[11:02] <curiousx> *wind sounds*
[11:02] <nodable> aloha sir
[11:02] <akem> .0
[11:02] <clinton_shane_wr> ppp0 in the script is set to 10.42.0.2, where did you see 10.42.42.42 and ppp0 is a 3g modem and it assigns its own ip address everytime you make a connection
[11:02] <curiousx> aloha nodable :D
[11:02] <prabuinet> hi, i've connected external monitor/keyboard and mouse to my laptop, Can my wife use my laptop when i use the external monitor?
[11:03] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: I saw the 10.42.42.42 in your pastebin of ifconfig -a before
[11:03] <clinton_shane_wr> ok
[11:03] <wawowe> tMH: apt-get install build-essential
[11:03] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: I'm not sure that stays constant as I asked before
[11:03] <clinton_shane_wr> I bet
[11:04] <clinton_shane_wr> then I just have to connect my gateway on client to that address
[11:04] <slikts> shame on ubuntu for having outdated chromium in both universe repo and ppas
[11:04] <clinton_shane_wr> I was thinking it would be what I asked to be, 10.42.0.2
[11:04] <clinton_shane_wr> well I had a look agai
[11:04] <clinton_shane_wr> again
[11:04] <clinton_shane_wr> and its 10.64.64.64
[11:04] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: no your script just points it, not change it
[11:04] <clinton_shane_wr> now
[11:05] <wawowe> m_fulder: also vsftp can auto chown uploaded files
[11:05] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: ok so that's constant so your script before must be wrong with 10.42.0.2 I guess,  the script I gave you should posibly still work
[11:06] <clinton_shane_wr> sacarlson I thank you for your time in helping me with this issue
[11:06] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: maybe just pastebin your ifconfig -a; again as it should be different than when I saw it
[11:06] <clinton_shane_wr> just a moment
[11:06] <clinton_shane_wr> I will do that
[11:06] <m_fulder> wawowe, yeah will come to that later, my first problem was that a user could delete a file which I didn't want him to delete, but will adding the user to the group really help if he still got the directory as his home dir?
[11:07] <Varikonniemi> how do i change how magnet files are opened in ubuntu? The give you no torrent file that i could right click on to set what program open it. I have qbittorrent installed and set to open torrents, but transmission insists on opening the magnets. Any clue? Should i uninstall transmission or what?
[11:07] <Squarism> How should one interpret columns VIRT, RES and SHR in top? Apart from VIRTual memory (is that swap only?), REServed physical and SHR (shared - which i really dont know the definition of)
[11:07] <Squarism> ?
[11:07] <tMH> wawowe - lemme try:) 10x!
[11:08] <m_fulder> wawowe, I've now tried to have a user with a group and he still can delete files chmoded 700 while having the same dir as his home dir :P
[11:08] <Chuck_Norris> Varikonniemi: if you are using Firefox, so, tells firefox that .torrent will open with bittorrent
[11:08] <Varikonniemi> i use chrome
[11:09] <Varikonniemi> and i have no problem with torrent files as i tried to say, the problem is with magnet links that give you no file
[11:09] <wawowe> m_fulder: create a folder owned by root and put the files you don't want deleted in it
[11:09] <Chuck_Norris> Varikonniemi: sry, tells firefox that magnet will be open with...
[11:09] <clinton_shane_wr> sacarlson
[11:09] <clinton_shane_wr> thank you very much
[11:09] <Varikonniemi> Chuck_Norris, sorry i dont understand
[11:09] <wawowe> m_fulder: also owned by root
[11:10] <m_fulder> wawowe but I need the same files for the root and for the FTP users to be in the same dir (it is a game server files)
[11:10] <m_fulder> the same directory *
[11:10] <clinton_shane_wr> my internet connection sharing is now successfully working
[11:10] <clinton_shane_wr> :)
[11:10] <Chuck_Norris> Varikonniemi: some like this: http://i.imgur.com/2b5zp.png
[11:10] <clinton_shane_wr> wawoe
[11:10] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: wow cool what did you do?
[11:10] <clinton_shane_wr> if sacarlson
[11:10] <clinton_shane_wr> ok nevermind wawoe
[11:10] <Varikonniemi> ok.. so where would this be in chrome?
[11:11] <clinton_shane_wr> good quesion really. I restarted my pc
[11:11] <m_fulder> wawowe, i.e. I need a folder with different access for root, owner and for a group
[11:11] <clinton_shane_wr> after that I just resetup the static ips and it worked
[11:11] <wawowe> m_fulder: don't use someones home directory as server root
[11:11] <clinton_shane_wr> I w ill try to restart again and check if its still working
[11:11] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: cool,  if it stops working you might need to stop dhclient on your server side
[11:11] <Chuck_Norris> lol, i have an epic fail in mah firefox i have configure .asf file for opening whit WMP xD http://i.imgur.com/gZe3p.jpg
[11:12] <clinton_shane_wr> oh P.S I used the 8.8.8.8 DNS on the client
[11:12] <clinton_shane_wr> I will look at setting up DNS server and proxy next
[11:12] <wawowe> m_fulder: put something like local_root=/home/ftp in your vsftpd.conf
[11:12] <sacarlson> clinton_shane_wr: oh ok ya that was probly all you needed
[11:12] <zhangjian> http://i.imgur.com/gZe3p.jpg
[11:12] <clinton_shane_wr> ok will keep that in mind
[11:12] <clinton_shane_wr> LOL
[11:12] <clinton_shane_wr> thanks a lot
[11:12] <clinton_shane_wr> :)
[11:13] <clinton_shane_wr> moving one forward with Ubuntu one step at a time
[11:13] <wawowe> m_fulder: make sure that is ftp's home directory and not someone who will be accessing the server
[11:15] <slikts> why is the X process using so much cpu!
[11:15] <slikts> it uses more cpu than any other process in my machine
[11:16] <slikts> 4x as much as my main browser
[11:16] <m_fulder> wawowe ok I did but now the ftp user got connection refused while trying to access his home dir
[11:17] <satyanash> tring concat
[11:17] <m_fulder> wawowe, while the dir have full access (777)
[11:17] <cpppp> hello what is the name of the konsole under ubuntu 11 ?
[11:17] <cpppp> i am trying to look for it i dont know the exacte name
[11:17] <Chuck_Norris> cpppp: gnome-terminal
[11:17] <cpppp> ok thanks
[11:17] <Chuck_Norris> np
[11:17] <wawowe> m_fulder: don't chroot to home directory
[11:18] <wawowe> m_fulder: move the stuff in their home to /home/ftp/user
[11:18] <wawowe> m_fulder: or just /home/ftp/
[11:19] <jenamith> how can i make a copy of my costomized system to format and re install
[11:19] <m_fulder> wawowe, but then my server structure will be broken, I need it to be the same folder for both FTP and normal users
[11:19] <wawowe> m_fulder: then put the stuff in /home/ftp/
[11:19] <nanni> salut
[11:20] <m_fulder> wawowe, how will it be different then putting them in /home/randomUser ?
[11:20] <VictorCL> a pop alert from ubuntu got stuck
[11:20] <VictorCL> cant close it
[11:20] <Darael> cpppp: For future reference, though, "Ubuntu 11" could be one of Karmic (the eleventh release), Natty (11.04), or Oneiric (11.10).  The numbers are release dates rather than versions in the traditional sense.
[11:20] <VictorCL> how can I kill it?
[11:20] <wawowe> m_fulder: randomUser won't be able to delete things they don't own
[11:21] <Chuck_Norris> VictorCL: "Ctrl + Alt + F2"  then: sudo service lightdm restart
[11:22] <jenamith> how can i make a copy of my costomized system to format and re install
[11:22] <Darael> Chuck_Norris: lightdm is an upstart job.  The sysvinit emulation will work, but that should really be "sudo restart lightdm".
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> jenamith  clonezilla
[11:22] <Darael> !clone | jenamith
[11:23] <m_fulder> wawowe oh hold on, I think I understood the ftp-home dir wrong, I've always done "useradd myUser -d hisHomeDir" and thought it wouldn't make the user itself to own that dir but only set the vsftpd dir, can I somehow have a user with a /home/ftp as his home dir but still "cd him" to /home/another user while connected via FTP?
[11:24] <Darael> jenamith: If it's only your user settings, just copy your home folder.  All your user settings are in there.  Otherwise, you could copy package config files out of /etc/, and note the packages you manually installed.
[11:25] <jenamith> Darael:  MonkeyDust  actully i need to install remaster sys in my ubuntu 12.04  it is not geetting in my synaptics
[11:25] <wawowe> m_fulder: usermod -d /home/ftp myuser
[11:26] <wawowe> m_fulder: they won't own the directory assuming it was created by root or someone else
[11:27] <m_fulder> wawowe, hm they won't? it seems like they do caouse they can delete 700 files
[11:27] <wawowe> m_fulder: normally you would want a user to own their home and would use useradd -m to create their home and give them rights over it
[11:27] <wawowe> m_fulder: if they don't own the directory, they can't delete stuff in it
[11:29] <jenamith> MonkeyDust:  i did'nt get clonezilla in my softe ware centre
[11:29] <jenamith> ?
[11:29] <m_fulder> wawowe, yeah but still how can I point him in FTP to another folder that he doesn't own?
[11:30] <wawowe> m_fulder: by setting local_root="anotherfolderthathedoesn'town"
[11:31] <m_fulder> wawowe, won't that affect all FTP users? what do I do if I want different dirs for different users
[11:31] <dogears> hi!
[11:31] <Chuck_Norris> aloha
[11:31] <wawowe> m_fulder: chroot_list_enable=YES chroot_list_file=/etc/vsftpd.chroot_list
[11:31] <m_fulder> oh right!! will try it on :)
[11:32] <cpppp> he
[11:32] <cpppp> chkconfig dhcp on what for?
[11:32] <jenamith> how can i install remaster sys in ubuntu 12.04
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> jenamith  http://clonezilla.org/
[11:33] <dogears> I am setting up a new computer with 12.04 and need to run virtualbox. Should I setup LVM ?
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> jenamith  start here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/remastersys
[11:34] <sveinse> If I have a .deb file; how can I install it? I mean, the deb has dependencies, so I need something inbetween dpkg and apt-get here. I'd rather not use the Software Center, as it does not reveal which packages are being installed as a dependency.
[11:35] <jrib> sveinse: gdebi, but why are you using a .deb not from the repositories?
[11:35] <sveinse> jrib: Custom build - development
[11:35] <Pici> dogears: one doesn't have anything to do with the other, so its up to you.
[11:36] <brett> .
[11:36] <dogears> Pici: Thanks
[11:36] <Chuck_Norris> sveinse: what is the software you are trying to install?
[11:36] <wawowe> sveinse: dpkg -i
[11:37] <wawowe> sveinse: apt-get -f install
[11:38] <jenamith> MonkeyDust: i dont have that package of remaster sys in my system. i tried it. according to some sites it is not working can you discribe me to install it step by step
[11:38] <sveinse> Chuck_Norris: Something we're building in our company. Entirely custom. And we haven't gotten around to setup a repo yet
[11:38] <burnt> can someone please help me, I installed some GTK themes which then caused problems with my system, I used gnome classic on 12.04, I am new to linux (as you will probably be able to tell) I tried to remove the new theme and was ill advised by another new linux user to remove all of the GTK engine thing and reinstall
[11:39] <m_fulder> wawowe what's the syntacs for the vsftpd.chroot_list file can't find it anywhere
[11:39] <burnt> I tried that, now all my themes are totaly out, everything has no theme applied, in gnome tweek tool If I change a theme nothing happens
[11:39] <burnt> im an idiot
[11:39] <m_fulder> syntax*
[11:39] <burnt> other than a reformat
[11:39] <burnt> can I repair GTK?
[11:39] <jrib> burnt: say exactly what you did with commands or give exact package names if you didn't use the command line
[11:40] <wawowe> m_fulder: user1 (newline) user2 (newline) user3
[11:40] <Chuck_Norris> sveinse: so, you are developing a software? and, you don't know the dependences?
[11:40] <m_fulder> wawowe but don't I put their startup dirs there aswell?
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> jenamith  the link I posted explains it
[11:40] <Chuck_Norris> sry if i can't understand =P
[11:41] <Chuck_Norris> sometimes i can't understand -.-
[11:41] <jenamith> ok iam going through it now
[11:41] <wawowe> m_fulder: no, it will chroot them to their home
[11:41] <burnt> jrib I used apt-get purge gtk*
[11:41] <burnt> call me stupid, I know!
[11:41] <jenamith> MonkeyDust:  thank you
[11:42] <wawowe> m_fulder: and they won't be able to leave home
[11:42] <jrib> burnt: you installed regular ubuntu (not kubuntu for example)?
[11:42] <m_fulder> wawowe oh so I can't set their home dir to something else without them actually owning that dir?
[11:42] <burnt> yes I upgraded from 11 to 12 orignaly
[11:42] <burnt> then messed things up
[11:42] <wawowe> m_fulder: you can
[11:43] <burnt> should I just do a fresh install?
[11:43] <wawowe> m_fulder: in fact you should
[11:43] <wawowe> m_fulder: can create a folder in it that they own
[11:43] <Chuck_Norris> burnt: i recommend doing a fresh install always
[11:43] <jrib> burnt: what does « apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop » return?
[11:43] <wawowe> m_fulder: and*
[11:43] <m_fulder> wawowe yeah haha , but while creating a new user like : useradd myUser -d myDir .. won't that make the user own myDir automaticly?
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> burnt  yes, but backup first
[11:44] <wawowe> m_fulder: no
[11:44] <m_fulder> wawowe ok, but then if I have a user and put his home dir as the root-home dir and put only 700 access on all files .. how come the user still can erase all root's files?
[11:44] <sveinse> Chuck_Norris: I do know it's deps, of course. But I'd like apt-get/dpkg to resolve & fetch the missing packages when installing a deb manually. So I'm sitting here with a bare .deb file with a list of deps from the mainstream repo. If I were to install it with with "dpkg -i" it will fail. But wawowe's method seems to work
[11:44] <jenamith> MonkeyDust:  my key board shorcuts are not working like Alt f4 Alt Tab so on
[11:45] <jrib> sveinse: uh, why aren't you using gdebi...
[11:45] <d4rkolo> hi all
[11:45] <burnt> jrib ubuntu-desktop:   Installed: (none)   Candidate: 1.267   Version table:      1.267 0         500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages, apt-cache policy
[11:45] <wawowe> m_fulder: in that senario they can't even login
[11:45] <jrib> burnt: do « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop »
[11:46] <burnt> installing
[11:46] <burnt> :)
[11:46] <burnt> done
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> jenamith  before you try and modify an OS, learn the basics
[11:46] <burnt> should I log out and back in ?
[11:46] <m_fulder> wawowe, ok then not all files are chmoded 700 .. say I chmod the dirs the ftp user need to access to login to 707 (only chmod not chmod -R now) .. then the user can login to that folder .. and there he has all files chmoded 700
[11:46] <jrib> burnt: probably
[11:47] <burnt> thanks brb :)
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> jenamith  it's in System Settings - Keyboard - Shortcuts
[11:47] <m_fulder> wawowe, then he should be able to acces the folders (i.e. log in) but not be able to change/delete any files
[11:48] <wawowe> m_fulder: wouldn't be able to login because he wouldn't have permission to access root-home
[11:49] <m_fulder> wawowe but if I set the roots home dir to chmod 777 he would
[11:49] <wawowe> m_fulder: assuming you meant the root user's home dir
[11:49] <wawowe> m_fulder: should just make a seperate directory
[11:49] <jenamith> Thanks
[11:49] <m_fulder> still I can't :P
[11:49] <m_fulder> wawowe, I need the root and the ftp user to work on same folders and files
[11:50] <Rizer> installed GUI on ubuntu 12.04 server distro and suddenly the wireless stops working. It was working when it was without the GUI, how do I fix?
[11:50] <weberc2> join #elementary-dev
[11:50] <wawowe> m_fulder: you're talking about "root" as in the administrator account right?
[11:50] <m_fulder> wawowe yes :)
[11:50] <wawowe> m_fulder: or root as in /
[11:50] <m_fulder> wawowe nono the user :P
[11:51] <burnt> jrib, fixed!
[11:51] <JuJuBee> Anybody having issues with Google Chrome freezing up?  Im runnning 11.10 with 3.0.0-20 kernel and chrome is freezing up on me several times a day.  Seems to happen more when I ctrl-T to get  a new tab and start typing an address
[11:51] <wawowe> m_fulder: why would you need root to have ftp access?
[11:51] <m_fulder> wawowe, no its the other way around, I need the ftp user to have access to some of roots files
[11:52] <wawowe> m_fulder: put root's files in a directory they have access to
[11:52] <31NABFN1B> hi, is there a reference documentation about the gsettings property com.canonical.unity.panel?
[11:52] <m_fulder> wawowe but why move them? can't I just make the ftp users access them where they are now (in roots home dir)
[11:53] <wawowe> m_fulder: you could but that gives those users access to everything else that's in root's home
[11:54] <m_fulder> wawoe I really don't get why ... how come a user not ownig the directory full access to the files which are chmoded 700
[11:54] <m_fulder> get*
[11:55] <wawowe> m_fulder: for instance if you had an ssh key or something in there..
[11:55] <jsschmid> Hi folks
[11:55] <burnt> thanks jrib
[11:55] <burnt> :) send you a pm
[11:55] <jsschmid> I'd like to know how I can set persistent environment variables
[11:55] <jsschmid> I ws using /etc/environments
[11:56] <jsschmid> but ran into problems
[11:56] <jrib> jsschmid: please explain your problem on ONE line
[11:56] <wawowe> m_fulder: they don't
[11:56] <Rizer> My wireless was working on Ubuntu Server distro 12.04 before I installed the GUI (long story), then it stopped working when I isntalled the GUI GNOME. Wired Networks and Wireless Netowrks are greyed out, how do I fix this?
[11:56] <m_fulder> wawowe, they seems to get it :P
[11:56] <wawowe> m_fulder: if they don't own the directory or the file in it, then they do not
[11:56] <jsschmid> if I edit this file with nano they file shown is not environment but environment.something
[11:56] <m_fulder> wawowe well they own the dirs above where the file is placed..maybe that's the problem?
[11:57] <jsschmid> how is this possible
[11:57] <wawowe> m_fulder: that is the problem
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> jsschmid:  clarify exact what you are doing and how.
[11:57] <wawowe> m_fulder: the file has to be in a directory that they do not own
[11:57] <m_fulder> wawowe aha! but then they can't access that dir via FTP .. crap!
[11:58] <wawowe> m_fulder: as long as there's one directory that they don't own between them and the file they won't be able to delete it
[11:58] <jsschmid> Dr_Willis: I'd like to set MAIL and was putting it in /etc/environment using MAIL=${HOME}/Maildir
[11:58] <wawowe> m_fulder: if the directory is chmodded then they can
[11:58] <wawowe> m_fulder: chmod 755 dir
[11:59] <chu> jsschmid: If you don't mind reading: http://www.codecoffee.com/tipsforlinux/articles/030.html
[11:59] <m_fulder> wawowe oh, so its the write folder flag that messes it up? does write for folders mean that the user get write access to all the files below?
[12:00] <_jeet> i am having problem connecting mobile broadband in 12.04
[12:00] <wawowe> m_fulder: yes
[12:00] <DrHalan> hey guys. is there any tutorial how to create a debian package out of a cmake-project. running cmake and then creating a package with the makefiles works on my machine but when i upload the sourcepackage to launchpad the filepaths change (of course!) and the package doesn't build.
[12:00] <m_fulder> wawoe oh! and then what does the execution flag mean?
[12:00] <DrHalan> i know there is this cmake to deb export build in but it doesn't seem to work taht good..
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> jsschmid:  im not sure the use of $(HOME) is valid in that dir.
[12:00] <jsschmid> chu: thanks, actually I don't, as I already read http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/set-environment-variable-linux/ but it didn't work anyway
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> i mean in tht file.
[12:01] <jrib> m_fulder, wawowe: uh, is that true (about the write flag on dirs)?
[12:01] <wawowe> m_fulder: it's necessary for all directories if you want access to them
[12:01] <_jeet> before two days it was running successful .. but i am having problem now
[12:01] <_jeet> any suggestion ?
[12:01] <jsschmid> Dr_Willis: is there any alternative to have the relative path (home dir of the respective user) ?
[12:01] <m_fulder> jrib yeah I had a folder with full access and then none access on the files inside .. still everyone could delete/change the files inside
[12:02] <jrib> m_fulder: deleting is one thing, writing to the files is another
[12:02] <wawowe> jrib: if the dir is 777 then they can delete what's in it if they own the parent dir
[12:02] <jrib> wawowe: yes
[12:02] <m_fulder> jrib, wawowe, isn't delete and write to files both depending on the write flag?
[12:02] <burnt> 777 anyone can delete
[12:02] <wawowe> jrib: what were you asking?
[12:03] <jsschmid> Dr_Willis: probably something with $LOGNAME ?
[12:03] <wawowe> m_fulder: yes
[12:03] <jrib> wawowe: write permission on a directory doesn't mean a user can write to files in that directory
[12:03] <wawowe> jrib: if it's 777 it does
[12:03]  * FreeHero Your country need you http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/FreeHero
[12:03] <wawowe> jrib: and it can't be 766 or they wouldn't be able to cd
[12:04] <Darael> wawowe: No, it doesn't - not if the files already exist and the user /doesn't/ have write permissions for them.
[12:04] <yuka> hi guys
[12:04] <wawowe> jrib: so to have the w flag it would have to be
[12:04] <m_fulder> wawowe then what's the differance between execute and read for a folder?
[12:05] <m_fulder> wawoe oh read is that you can see it from above maybe?
[12:05] <wawowe> Darael: no what doesn't?
[12:05] <yuka> i found windows7 theme for ubuntu (12.04 is my version), but seems the theme needs gnome.. i installed gnome, but the script (win7-setup.sh) seems to want gtk2 (gnome 2) my ubuntu seems to be running gnome3 (gtk3) and therefor doesent work. Is there a workaround or way to install gnome2 on ubuntu 12.04
[12:05] <Darael> wawowe: write permission on a directory doesn't necessarily mean a user can write to files in that directory.
[12:06] <wawowe> Darael: if they own the parent directory it does
[12:06] <jrib> wawowe: show on pastebin
[12:06] <wawowe> Darael: for instance if there's a directory in your home owned by root that is 777
[12:06] <wawowe> Darael: jrib and a file in it that's 000
[12:06] <wawowe> Darael: you can remove it
[12:06] <Darael> wawowe: No, it doesn't.  It means they can create files in that directory, and delete files in that directory, but it doesn't mean they can write to /any/ file in that directory.
[12:07] <yuka> or better question does anybody know a windows7 theme for ubuntu 12.04 that works
[12:07] <jrib> wawowe: removing it and recreating is different than writing to it
[12:07] <wawowe> Darael: jrib never said it wasn't different
[12:07] <wawowe> Darael: jrib but it has the same result
[12:08] <jrib> wawowe: well all I'm claiming is that having writing permission on a directory does not imply you can write to a file if you don't have write permissions on that file
[12:08] <wawowe> jrib: right, and if you delete it you can't recreate it with the permissions it had before
[12:08] <jsschmid> well, guess I'll go on trying myself..
[12:08] <jsschmid> see you
[12:08] <m_fulder> wawowe sucess! now everything works as I wanted it to! Thanks a lot!
[12:08] <Darael> yuka: gnome2 is no longer supported, but Ubuntu /or/ by the GNOME project itself.  I don't believe there is a windows 7 theme for gnome3.  The closest thing I can think of to Win7 on Linux is KDE4, which is a different desktop you can get by installing kubuntu instead, or adding the kubuntu-desktop package to your existing install.
[12:09] <wawowe> jrib: but you can delete it and that was his issue
[12:10] <cpppp> how to check if iptables server is installed on my machine?
[12:10] <m_fulder> cpppp I gues you can try running "sudo iptables --list" and see if it works
[12:11] <Darael> cpppp: The firewall managed by iptables is part of the kernel.  What do you mean by "iptables server"?
[12:11] <yuka> Darael thanks much for answer, i am installing kubuntu-desktop
[12:11] <yuka> hopefully it will be close enough
[12:12] <Darael> cpppp: Whichever package it is that provides the iptables command is one of the depends of ubuntu-minimal, so it should be installed on /any/ Ubuntu installation.  m_fulder's command should help, if you're unsure, though.
[12:13] <cpppp> ah ok, i want to activate the routing on the firewall
[12:13] <cpppp> how can i do that?
[12:15] <jenamith> Failed to fetch http://www.remastersys.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/InRelease  Unable to find expected entry 'main/source/Sources' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:15] <faygot> td
[12:15] <jenamith> am riying to install remaster sys in my ubuntu 12.04
[12:15] <jenamith> can youy help me ?
[12:16] <jenamith> while installing found an error like this:----------Failed to fetch http://www.remastersys.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/InRelease  Unable to find expected entry 'main/source/Sources' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:17] <wawowe> cpppp: you want to deny all traffic in or out?
[12:18] <ikonia> jenamith: what are you trying to install ?
[12:18] <ikonia> jenamith: that repo url does not look valid
[12:19] <PCdoc> hi
[12:19] <plutoid> hi
[12:20] <m_fulder> wawowe, now I only got one weird problem left .. in the folder which is now chmoded 755, I can replace all files chmoded 777, though I can't delete them :O (maybe that's a good thing, but still seems kind of weird :P)
[12:20] <amanthakur> exit
[12:20] <jenamith> i am triying to install theremaster sys
[12:20] <jenamith> ikonia: for making a master DVD
[12:20] <m_fulder> wawowe replace and delete through FTP *
[12:20] <PCdoc> while installing ubuntu, the setup tries to get updates through internet in between. But I have an internet connection that requires web based login before I can start to use internet connection. So how do i login so that I can download these updates
[12:20] <jenamith> ikonia:  can you help me
[12:20] <wawowe> m_fulder: if you're replacing them you are deleting them
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> I thought remastersys had issues with 12.-4 or was that  the UCK?
[12:21] <cpppp> wawowe:i want to activate the routing in general.
[12:21] <ikonia> jenamith: I know what the software is for, I was asking exactly what you where trying to install
[12:21] <m_fulder> wawowe yeah that's why its weird .. I can succesfully replace them .. but can't only delete them :P
[12:21] <ikonia> jenamith: that repo URL is not a valid URL, get the correct URL
[12:21] <wawowe> m_fulder: must be a client issue
[12:21] <lm> 好
[12:21] <wawowe> cpppp: what do you want to route?
[12:21] <Pici> jenamith: it looks like they don't have a repository for precise.
[12:22] <jenamith> ok
[12:22] <cristian_c> Hi
[12:22] <PCdoc> while installing ubuntu, the setup tries to get updates through internet in between. But I have an internet connection that requires web based login before I can start to use internet connection. So how do i login so that I can download these updates
[12:22] <jenamith> then how can i install Remaster CD
[12:22] <cristian_c> Can I enable pinch  gesture on my touchpad with ubuntu?
[12:22] <cpppp> wawowe> packets comming from web server to my machine
[12:23] <wawowe> cpppp: more details
[12:23] <cristian_c> I know this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/11300/how-do-i-test-multi-gesture-capabilities-of-a-touchpad
[12:23] <cristian_c> but I don't know how can i use it
[12:23] <HenryTrollins> g'day, how do i get root on my system
[12:24] <xangua> !root | HenryTrollins
[12:24] <wawowe> cpppp: if you want to filter out ads and stuff like that you can use privoxy or something
[12:24] <cristian_c> what set-props is related to the pinch?
[12:25] <jenamith> then how cvan i make a master cd for for matt my current ubuntu and to reinstall it
[12:25] <HenryTrollins> i just want to use 'su' and my root account password
[12:25] <HenryTrollins> no need for sudo
[12:25] <ikonia> HenryTrollins: read the url xangua sent you
[12:26] <jenamith> ikonia: then how cvan i make a master cd for for matt my current ubuntu and to reinstall it
[12:26] <ikonia> jenamith: well, if the tool you want to use is not availalbe on the distro you want to use, you can't use it
[12:27] <ikonia> jenamith: so you either have to find another tool or don't take a master CD image
[12:28] <cpppp> wawowe>thanks
[12:29] <jenamith> i want to formatt my System then i want an installation CD of my current vertion
[12:29] <ikonia> jenamith: ok, so you need to either a.) find another tool b.) get a working version of the tool you want c.) accept the limitation
[12:33] <Mitchell_M> anyone here good with NRPE? Is there a specific version of NRPE that I should be focusing on for Ubuntu?
[12:34] <Mitchell_M> By NRPE I mean Nagios plugin
[12:35] <ikonia> Mitchell_M: nrpe is a package in ubuntu,
[12:35] <ikonia> Mitchell_M: just check the version ubuntu uses but it's pretty generic, never had a problem across versions
[12:36] <Mitchell_M> Okay, then it makes sense that I used apt-get install to download it
[12:36] <Mitchell_M> I mean install
[12:36] <Mitchell_M> Alright, just wanted to make sure. thanks
[12:40] <Acrack> hello
[12:40] <Acrack> im new with ubuntu and i would like to install JAVA_HOME
[12:40] <Acrack> can somebody help me plz ?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> Howdies
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> !java
[12:41] <Acrack> i just installed opendjdk java runtime 6
[12:42] <Acrack> dunno what's next... xD
[12:42] <Mitchell_M> Next is taking a decision of what to do next :P
[12:42] <Mitchell_M> just kidding, what are you trying to do?
[12:43] <Acrack> im trying to have this : http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/setup/installation.html
[12:43] <Acrack> installed
[12:43] <Acrack> so i downloaded the .deb file
[12:43] <Acrack> and installed it
[12:44] <Acrack> but then :acrack@ubuntu:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/elasticsearch start
[12:44] <Acrack>  * no JDK found - please set JAVA_HOME
[12:44] <killer> i formatted my usb ...and now i want it to convert to ntfs (terminal preferred.plz help)
[12:44] <Acrack> and then i installed openjdk java runtime 6 and same error
[12:45] <Mitchell_M> hmm, never ran across that one. Anyone seen this error before?
[12:45] <Jonii> Hey, I have Ubuntu 12.4 and Unity, how to make it to not lock itself when I close the lid, but still lock itelf after 5 minutes of idleness
[12:46] <Jonii> Anyone know?
[12:46] <Mitchell_M> Umm, system settings Jonii? Then Power Settings
[12:46] <Jonii> Mitchell_M: I'm fairly sure that does not work, but tell me your idea
[12:47] <Mitchell_M> Actually, sorry that's battery preservation
[12:47] <ago_> hello
[12:47] <ago_> !list
[12:47] <Jonii> I have set when closing lid [Do nothing] [Do nothing]
[12:48] <eightieskhild> !audio
[12:48] <eightieskhild> !cd
[12:48] <ago_> !cd
[12:48] <eightieskhild> does anyone know a good audio cd burner?
[12:48] <Mitchell_M> Okay Jonii
[12:48] <eightieskhild> !audiocd
[12:48] <Mitchell_M> So I know it has to be a system setting (I've done this in Windows many times, still getting used to Ubuntu)
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> system settings has a search feature.
[12:49] <eightieskhild> Dr_Willis, you know a cd burning program?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> !burn | eightieskhild
[12:49] <Halexander9000> Hey, anyone here a fan of old Windows games like Fallout? I'm trying to load it with Wine but the setup won't start. It just gives me a "General failure." message and shuts down. Followed this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=959979 . What else do I need to do? I'd really appreciate some help here.
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> eightieskhild:  dozen of them in the repos
[12:50] <eightieskhild> Dr_Willis, which is good?
[12:50] <RealSnowie> Hi all. Nickserv busted?
[12:50] <eightieskhild> any prefrence?
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | Halexander9000
[12:50] <eightieskhild> i need audio cds
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> eightieskhild: clarify what you mean.
[12:50] <Pici> RealSnowie: No. If you're having issues with it, please ask in #freenode
[12:50] <RealSnowie> Pici, cheers
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> most any of them can  convert music to an audio cd
[12:51] <Mitchell_M> Jonii: I think I know why I cant see it, basically my idea was in power settings it should have options for when you close the lid what does your laptop do, and when it's plugged in etc
[12:51] <BytesOfBinary> any of you guys set up a succesful wifi hotspot in precise?
[12:51] <Mitchell_M> Jonii: I cannot see these options because I'm running a desktop
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> I cant  see them either Mitchell_M  :) on a desktop
[12:51] <Halexander9000> Dr_Willis: How's that supposed to help me?
[12:52] <Jonii> Mitchell_M: it has been set to do nothing
[12:52] <Jonii> It doesn't do nothing, it locks the computer
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> Halexander9000:  the wine app databasd has tips for most games and how to get them working in wine
[12:52] <eightieskhild> Dr_Willis, a cd I can play in my 2000 PT cruiser with stock Radio
[12:52] <Mitchell_M> Jonii: So do you want it set to do nothing?
[12:52] <Mitchell_M> Jonii: I thought that's what you wanted?
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> eightieskhild:  most the apps can make standard audio music cds
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> !info k3b
[12:52] <eightieskhild> do you have any preference?
[12:53] <Jonii> Mitchell_M: yes, and not to lock the compute
[12:53] <Mitchell_M> Jonii: Sorry
[12:53] <Jonii> computer
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> eightieskhild:  try them out.. you decidde what you like.
[12:53] <Mitchell_M> Just reread the thread above
[12:53] <directX> someone help me please
[12:53] <Jonii> I want it to do nothing. It does not do nothing, it locks the computer, even though I have set it to do nothing when closing the lid.
[12:53] <Pici> directX: with?
[12:53] <BytesOfBinary> directX: what's the problem?
[12:54] <Mitchell_M> Jonii: Hmmm, I know what you mean now.
[12:54] <jenamith> How can i make a master cd for formatt my current ubuntu and to reinstall it
[12:54] <ikonia> jenamith: I've told you 2 times
[12:54] <directX> it about my python wifite.py
[12:55] <Snowie> Jonii, open case, find lid switch, kludge it ;)
[12:55] <Mitchell_M> Jonii: I'm not sure why I would do that actually, I know in win 7 (sorry linux ppl, I'm transition to linux gradually xD) if you tell it to do that it should od nothing
[12:55] <Mitchell_M> Jonii: Oh wait!
[12:55] <Mitchell_M> Jonii: Idea is popping up xD
[12:55] <directX> example : 2. "Catherine" 			(63dB  WEP)
[12:55] <Pici> Mitchell_M: If you don't know the answer to a question, you don't need to answer, there are other helpful people here that may be able to chime in.
[12:55] <Jonii> Snowie: I don't want to void my warranty, also I don't want my computer to waste battery on screen when lid is closed
[12:56] <directX> but  the result : 0:09:55] fake authentication unsuccessful :(
[12:56] <directX> [0:09:55] exiting attack...
[12:56] <Snowie> so you want the screen to power down, but not to lock the pc. hmmmm
[12:56] <Mitchell_M> Pici: Just trying, if someone else knows feel free, cause I've done this already
[12:56] <Mitchell_M> Pici: Just not on ubuntu
[12:56] <directX> what can i do
[12:56] <directX> im using ubuntu 12.04 lts
[12:56] <jenamith> ikonia:  an y alternative tool for this
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> directX:  i think you nee to clarifyu  exactly what you are doing.
[12:57] <ikonia> jenamith: I'm not aware of any as I don't use them, but there may well be
[12:57] <Jonii> Snowie: yes. System settings don't work to do that. ALso, in case anyone is wonderng, I'm using Ubuntu 12.4 with Unity
[12:57] <jenamith> anyone else can help me
[12:57] <Mitchell_M> So following Pici's advise, does anyone else wanna help Jonii?  And isn't snowie's idea just a mechanical solution rather than a ubuntu solution 0-0?
[12:58] <directX> Dr_willis  : i want to crack wep password
[12:58] <Jonii> I have heard that gnome screensaver or something is responsible for screen locking. For some reason, it seems that ubuntu 12.4 does not have screensaver options, so I don't know anything about that
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> directX:  and how is this related to Ubuntu support? where did thia script come drom?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Gnome-screensaver is like..  no settings in 12.04 ;)  seems a common tend is to remove it and install  a differnt screensaver package
[12:59] <curiousx> directX: go at neghbor's and tell him: "Dear neighbor, could you please tell me your WEP key, in order to be able for browsing the blogsfera"
[12:59] <curiousx> neighbor's house*... -.-
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> neighbors areound here have open networks. ;)
[13:00] <jenamith> isthere any alternative tool for remastersys?
[13:00] <cpppp> how can i give two ip addresses to the same interface ??
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> !uck
[13:00] <Mitchell_M> Jonii: Just one more thing, I remember one of the things I did on my Windows machine was not just specific to windows, you know how the functions key on a laptop allow you to switch screen options, I believe if you choose the option to duplicate screen as if you had an external monitor connected it would allow you to close the lid without it locking. I did that with one of my laptops. It...
[13:00] <Pici> !cracking | directX
[13:00] <Mitchell_M> ...might require you use an external monitor, that I am not sure, but hopefully not
[13:01] <kobe24> hi, someone know how to fix the flickering caused by nvidia powermizer on ubuntu 12.04
[13:01] <kobe24> ?
[13:02] <Jonii> Mitchell_M: did not help
[13:02] <BytesOfBinary> How do I make a wifi hotspot for android in ubuntu? Android cannot detect Ad-Hoc networks! Help would be highly appreciated
[13:02] <Mitchell_M> Jonii: Well then I guess it does not work with ubuntu, sorry about that. I'm out of ideas then.
[13:02] <Snowie> Pici, have you tried this thread http://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid
[13:02] <Pici> Snowie: I think you mean Jonii.
[13:02] <Jonii> What I'm wondering is, does some screensaver-like thing activate when you close the lid?
[13:03] <Snowie> oh, sorry
[13:03] <Snowie> Jonii, try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid
[13:04] <BytesOfBinary> hello? guys?
[13:05] <Jonii> Snowie: all they did was suggest doing the steps I've already tried and found lacking
[13:05] <fidel> hi BytesOfBinary
[13:05] <Jonii> 12.4 locks the screen even if the settings say it should not
[13:05] <BytesOfBinary> fidel: well, did you read my question? :P
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> could be the  settings dident stick and may need a log out/back in Jonii
[13:06] <ali_> hi, please some could help, Ubuntu 12.04 hangs at shutdown any idea pls
[13:06] <Pici> Jonii: there are a few answers on that page that might be more helpful than the one voted highest.
[13:06] <fidel> BytesOfBinary: your last comment was a hello containing a question marks. talking about "that question"?
[13:06] <fidel> !ask | BytesOfBinary
[13:06] <BytesOfBinary> fidel: it was How do I make a wifi hotspot for android in ubuntu? Android cannot detect Ad-Hoc networks
[13:06] <curiousx> ali_: shoutdown ubuntu from a TTY and see what happend
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> if android cant access an ad-hoc network.. guess  you dont use them with an ad-hoc
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> #android may know work arounds
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> or- dont use an ad-hoc network?
[13:07] <Snowie> Jonii, have you tried the gnome editor as well anyway, just to see if the additional options are there to set?
[13:09] <deface> Morning Fellow Ubuntuers.
[13:09] <Jonii> Snowie: I was suggested something like gnome-tweak-tools but it seemed like a suspicious program
[13:10] <Jonii> ubuntu recommended against installing it
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> I use Ubuntu-tweak and MyUnity normall Jonii
[13:10] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello all.  Does anyone have any good advice for updating the BIOS on a machine running Ubuntu, when all the manufacturer supplies is an EXE?
[13:11] <wwd> Cajun_Lan_Man: freedos
[13:11] <wwd> live usb
[13:11] <OerHeks> Cajun_Lan_Man, try freedos
[13:11] <fidel> dosbootdisk?
[13:11] <ago_> hello
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> freedos has a live usb/cd
[13:11] <Cajun_Lan_Man> You can run freedos from USB? heck that should work.  Thanks everyone. :-)
[13:11] <cpppp> can i give two ip addresses for the same interface?
[13:11] <Snowie> Jonii, if you can find it in the ubuntu repositories, you can pretty safely trust it
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[13:12] <wwd> i always follow this tutorial: http://tuxtweaks.com/2009/05/create-a-bootable-usb-drive-ubuntu-freedos/
[13:12] <OerHeks> cpppp no
[13:12] <kobe24> no one knows about powermizer?
[13:12] <Snowie> cpppp, just no
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> kobe24:  never heard of it
[13:12] <Jonii> Snowie: I'm unsure what this repository is. i tried to install it through apt-get
[13:13] <kobe24> ok thx
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> jonii gnome-tweak-tool is in thenormal repos.  'universe'
[13:13] <Snowie> can you find it in the software centre.
[13:13] <Cajun_Lan_Man> wwd: that will be very helpful.  Thanks!
[13:14] <ago_> !list
[13:14] <Jonii> thanks
[13:14] <wwd> np
[13:15] <ali_> curiousx, nothing it hangs again
[13:15] <alexfu> For whatever reason, my nano will NOT do syntax highlighting.  I cant think of anything else besides what I've done already: http://pastebin.com/vCQL4j2M
[13:16] <curiousx> but... don't you see where it's hangs? i meant some service or something?
[13:16] <Snowie> Jonii, open a terminal and $ sudo apt-get install gconf-editor
[13:16] <raubvogel> Am I the only one having problems with security.ubuntu.com? http://pastie.org/private/ysh1ynndo4h9wnuuswcea
[13:17] <Snowie> Jonii, once that's done, open it if from the Unity Dash, it is called Configuration Editor. then follow http://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid
[13:17] <ali_> no i see only ubuntu suting down screen
[13:17] <ali_> curiousx, no i see only the ubuntu suting down screen
[13:18] <curiousx> sry, in mah BT shows all the services goin down, i get confused
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> nano can do syntax highliging? never noticed
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> guess it can. :)
[13:19] <curiousx> ali_: did you install a service recently?
[13:19] <Snowie> Can anyone tell me which file holds the 'remembered' settings for gfx resolution etc. If i plug my pc into my flatscreen, it works fine, but then i get black screen on boot on my normal monitor. have only found reinstalling fglrx to fix the issue
[13:20] <curiousx> ali_: or, do you have an external hdd pluged in?
[13:21] <bieb> what is a dangling symlink? and how do I fix it? I have installed likewise-open to connect to an Active Directory.. I can connect no problem.. but all the commands in the likewise/bin dir show as red and when I try to run a command it tells me no such file.. I tried to chmod to see if that would help, and that is where I get "chmod cannot operate on dangling symlink 'lw-command'
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> Snowie:  perhaps its setting  /etc/xorg.conf
[13:21] <ali_> curiousx, no i'd this problem since i installed ubuntu 12.04,
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> bieb:  its a link thats incorredt. its pointing to the wrong file.
[13:21] <ali_> curiousx, but now it's more frequente then before
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> ls -l    should show the links and what they are pointing to
[13:21] <J11_> When I open the livecd dash board I can't see any application, while I can see application in ubuntu software center. I don't see any way to open a terminal too
[13:21] <curiousx> ali_: is an upgrade?
[13:22] <curiousx> i meant 11.10 to 12.04?
[13:22] <bieb> Dr_Willis: thanks
[13:22] <escott> bieb, its pointing to file that doesnt exist presumably
[13:22] <ali_> curiousx, a fresh install
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> J11_:  one way   tap 'alt' then enter term   should show up in the list
[13:23] <Snowie> Dr_Willis, no such file
[13:24] <tesmar_> e!
[13:25] <Jonii> Weird
[13:25] <Jonii> It did not work
[13:25] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Here's an odd problem. Since switching to 12.04, I cannot browse to any of my Windows shares. When I do, it prompts me for credentials as usual, but the credentials never work.  It just continues to reprompt.  Has anyone had any experiance with this?
[13:26] <Snowie> Jonii, so in the Gconf Editor you could see the option in buttons? what is it set to?
[13:26] <Guest29424> does anyone know why ubuntu 12.04 can't locate fpaste or pastebin to install it?
[13:26] <Guest29424> how do I get it?
[13:26] <ikonia> Guest29424: fpaste is a fedora application
[13:26] <ironhalik> Who do I have to do, to change the default web browser that empathy uses to open links?
[13:27] <ikonia> Guest29424: you want pastebinit
[13:27] <Jonii> Snowie: I alternated with gnome-tweak-tool between "blank" and "nothing", both times screen locked
[13:27] <Halexander9000> Hello everyone. I really need some help here, please. See, I want to install Fallout 1 using Wine, but the problem is, I get a "General failure" message when I load up the setup program. What do I need to do to make it work?
[13:27] <Guest29424> oh? so after installing "pastebinit" you run the command "pastebin" ?
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> Snowie:  perhaps use the amd confiog tools to make one then?
[13:28] <escott> Guest29424, no you can run pastebinit
[13:28] <Guest29424> or you run the command "pastebinit"
[13:28] <curiousx> Halexander9000: try with Play On Linux
[13:28] <Guest29424> oh
[13:28] <Jonii> I figured it was one and the same, whether I use gconf or gnome-tweak-tool. I could try gconf too, though, but it seemed that both of these action are one and the same
[13:28] <Guest29424> ok
[13:28] <Guest29424> thx
[13:28] <ikonia> Guest29424: eg: cat /etc/hosts | pastebinit
[13:28] <ikonia> Guest29424: just like fpast
[13:28] <ikonia> Guest29424: just like fpaste
[13:28] <Snowie> Dr_Willis, ok thanks. will look into them
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> Halexander9000:  the wine app database has guides on most windows game.. and i recall there beiung a usb-gameing.org version of that game that did work in wine.
[13:29] <Guest29424> you can't get fpaste on here?
[13:29] <ikonia> Guest29424: fpaste is a fedora application for the fedora pastebin
[13:29] <ikonia> Guest29424: this channel is ubuntu, the ubuntu version of fpaste is called "pastebinit"
[13:30] <kandinski> nice
[13:30] <ikonia> Guest29424: it puts a paste into the ubuntu pastebin, the same way that fpaste puts content into the fedora pastebin
[13:30] <kandinski> I guess we need a command switch that lets us select
[13:30] <ikonia> kandinski: how are you talking to ?
[13:30] <kandinski> so pastecommand --python chooses bpaste.net, etc
[13:30] <kandinski> ikonia: I was talking out loud
[13:31] <Guest29424> ok, Yeah, I saw the url is ubuntu. For some reason I though fpaste was to a generic paste site. anyhow, thx
[13:31] <kandinski> I am on many channels, some in English, some in Spanish, preferred pastebin is always a different one
[13:31] <theseus> I am using Ubuntu Server 12.04 with the Xfce kernel.  I notice very slow load time after login, any ideas?
[13:31] <ikonia> theseus: why are you not using the ubuntu server kernel ?
[13:31] <ikonia> theseus: what is the xfce kernel ?
[13:32] <Snowie> ikonia, i think he means he has xubuntu, if i'm right
[13:32] <llutz_> Guest29424: get the "pastebin" script from sentynel.com if you dislike distro-related pastebin-scripts
[13:32] <ikonia> Snowie: that's why I'm asking him what he thinks it means
[13:33] <theseus> ikonia: I love the ubuntu server kernel for command line but wanted a gui interface
[13:33] <miltonsv> bom dia
[13:33] <jatt> !pt
[13:33] <ikonia> theseus: the kernel has nothing to do with a gui or not
[13:33] <jennie> why ubuntu is better than debian ?
[13:34] <ikonia> theseus: just install xubuntu
[13:34] <ikonia> jennie: it's not, it's personal opinion what you like
[13:34] <theseus> ikonia: well yeah that is the easy answer, you could have just said you dont know what the cause for slow boot time in Xfce, lol
[13:34] <jennie> i am confused between ubuntu and debian
[13:34] <ikonia> theseus: but I'm sure I can work it out
[13:34] <ikonia> jennie: they are different distros
[13:35] <c31r2g> hello ikonia long time no talk
[13:35] <ikonia> c31r2g: hello, apologies, I don't remember you, but "hi" anyway
[13:35] <theseus> ikonia: lol, alright well let me know.  The only solution people found online and in ubuntu forums was a cause in auto setting keyboard default.  This doesn't solve my issue
[13:35] <ikonia> theseus: well, you've given me no info
[13:36] <c31r2g> ikonia well thats cool as i dont come much on irs'c but find time to see the logs ;)
[13:36] <qwd> I came back to my computer and the screen is all black except for the mouse. Any ideas on how to fix it without rebooting?
[13:37] <J11_> Dr_Willis: there is still no application to be found even in the alt search
[13:37] <The_Explorer> Greetings, I have a quesiton about IO schedualing: When compressing in the background my computer will periodically stutter. Is there any way i can optimize my computer to (by default) optimize for multitasking over single program performance?
[13:38] <Snowie> qwd, i would try ctrl-alt-f1 to drop to root prompt, and then ctrl-alt-f7(is that the default terminal now everyone?) to get back to your current session. But, real answer is, probably now
[13:38] <Snowie> qwd, *not
[13:40] <qwd> Snowie: Yeah I did that, that's how I'm writing here :) Tried closing a few random things from htop but no luck
[13:40] <r3dux> The_Explorer - I have the same issue, heavy disk IO makes my machine stutter, in theory this could be "niced" to a low value, but in practice.... I don't know...
[13:41] <r3dux> You'd have to be able to recognise sustained disk IO and renice it to some low value on the fly.
[13:41] <qwd> Snowie: I guess I'll just reboot then. Thanks!
[13:42] <ikonia> The_Explorer: why do you think it's i/o related specifically ?
[13:42] <altin> can anyone tell me how can I do a vpn connection with cisco vpn server
[13:42] <r3dux> Any nicing happens per process, not per IO usage, so it's a hard one
[13:42] <altin> with IKE  and IPSEC
[13:43] <r3dux> ikonia: Because it's a known issue. Google "Linux IO slowdown"
[13:43] <IlPalazzo-ojiisa> Hello everyone... I have a small problem getting games to run on Linux.
[13:44] <IlPalazzo-ojiisa> (I hope it hasn't been asked too many times before)
[13:44] <ikonia> r3dux: I'm asking how you know this specific example relates to an i/o problem
[13:44] <ikonia> or how The_Explorer knows/believes
[13:44] <IlPalazzo-ojiisa> It's not a WINE issue, as I'm trying to run games that have native Linux ports.
[13:44] <saml> hey, if I do apt-get remove something, will it remove all dependancies, too?
[13:44] <IlPalazzo-ojiisa> (So far, Bastion and Katawa Shoujo.)
[13:44] <saml> i mean, packages that depend on something
[13:45] <r3dux> ikonia - linux i/o scheduling is generally weak. How I know this is becuase the system slows down significantly.
[13:45] <IlPalazzo-ojiisa> I tried to run the latter, and I was faced with the following code:
[13:45] <ikonia> r3dux: I'm well aware of i/o issues, I'm asking The_Explorer why he thinks this specific issue is i/o
[13:46] <r3dux> The_Explorer: The floor is yours.
[13:46] <IlPalazzo-ojiisa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1017937/
[13:46] <IlPalazzo-ojiisa> I assume that python has been set up incorrectly, somehow.
[13:47] <The_Explorer> r3dux, renicing was attempted and whats even more irritating was it was on a SEPERATE DRIVE... /facepalm. I just dont know, lol.
[13:48] <OerHeks> IlPalazzo-ojiisa, do you run that game on 64 bit linux ? i read here it only runs on 32 bit  > http://ks.renai.us/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=6474
[13:48] <The_Explorer> ikonia, I think its IO related because i have 8 cores and that task was only using one.
[13:48] <r3dux> The_Explorer: Wrong answer.
[13:48] <IlPalazzo-ojiisa> Umm........
[13:48] <ikonia> The_Explorer: that just may mean it's not doing smp - there must be something that points you at i/o
[13:49] <IlPalazzo-ojiisa> There's a possibility there, yeah...
[13:49] <cpppp> what is the file /etc/resolv.conf for?
[13:49] <AdvoWork> anyone aware of a program I can use that splits a directory of files into multiple folders?
[13:49] <IlPalazzo-ojiisa> ...but that doesn't explain why Bastion quits after a short while, too.
[13:49] <r3dux> AdvoWork:  Using what criteria?
[13:49] <IlPalazzo-ojiisa> Could it be the same problem?
[13:50] <The_Explorer> r3dux, Thankyou for your commentary. However "wrong answer" does not take the example of which i have presented and present a solution.
[13:51] <Oprtz> !help , i want to install windows 7 again, because ubuntu is difficult for me :( but windows7 dvd cant boot the system :( wha tto do
[13:51] <The_Explorer> ikonia, do you have a solution to the issue of a slowdown of that sort in relation to single thread compression, in the background and taking place on a seperate hard drive?
[13:51] <r3dux> The_Explorer: You're absolutely right, it doesn't. Throughput depends on multiple factors, the processing speed and/or usage is generally the least of which.
[13:52] <AdvoWork> r3dux, size really, 1000's of files, need to burn to dvd, so need to split by dvd size, so say 4GB ideally?
[13:52] <ikonia> The_Explorer: I'd need to understand the problem more, hence why I was asking you why you think it's i/o related
[13:52] <IlPalazzo-ojiisa> ...so, it's to Windows I go then.
[13:53] <IlPalazzo-ojiisa> Thanks for the help, OerHeks.
[13:53] <Oprtz> !help , i want to install windows 7 again, because ubuntu is difficult for me :( but windows7 dvd cant boot the system :( wha tto do
[13:53] <J11_> Is there a way I could set DISPLAY in a TTY so I can run a terminal in gnome?
[13:54] <r3dux> AdvoWork: 4.7GB for a DVD-5, but you have take into account file overheads, so if you have 100,000 x 1KB files it'll cost more than 1 x 47000MB file.
[13:54] <The_Explorer> very well mr ikonia: large folder -> compressing large folder to *.7z -> proceeding to game/surf/movie -> notable stutter and extreme loading of programs noticed. System crash. (ctrl+alt+bks)
[13:54] <OerHeks> Oprtz check your computer manual howto setup booting from cd/dvd, else join ##windows for support
[13:54] <streulma> hello, my system boots and stops after scripts/init-bottom
[13:55] <ikonia> The_Explorer: that's not a reason to assume it's i/o
[13:55] <^Mike> synaptic can show which packages have not been fully purged - can aptitude do the same for a server install?
[13:55] <streulma> A maintenance shell will now be started
[13:55] <jtac> how can i make a user so he can make sudo ?
[13:55] <ikonia> jtac: put him in the admin group
[13:55] <Oprtz> OerHeks:  i check every thing, it seems that ubuntu make mess in boot files or MBR
[13:55] <The_Explorer> ikonia, ok I understand.  I will stop assuming its the I/O... Suggestions, please?
[13:55] <jtac> ikonia: cmd?
[13:55] <r3dux> AdvoWork: Just compress as many folders as you can and then dump to DVD where the compressed file size is < 4.7 -- OR -- use some backup software which does it for you.
[13:55] <ikonia> The_Explorer: well, what have you done so far
[13:55] <ikonia> jtac: usermod
[13:56] <llutz_> ^Mike: aptitude search ~c
[13:56] <llutz_> ^Mike: aptitude purge ~c       to get rid of them
[13:56] <The_Explorer> mr ikonia, what i have done so far is play with Ktaskman(ksysguard) varios processor and harddrive schedualling to see its outcome. I have changed the nice +5  in combination.
[13:57] <ikonia> The_Explorer: ok, install sysstat and run "iostat 3" while doing the compression test
[13:57] <^Mike> llutz_: awesome - thanks!
[13:57] <r3dux> ikonia/The_Explorer: Hold on ... big compression --> play a game --> crash. Sounds like you ran out of memory and something didn't handle it well.
[13:57] <AdvoWork> r3dux, i have to then keep selecting number of files to get close to 4gb, get me?
[13:57] <The_Explorer> r3dux I have 16 gigabytes of ram
[13:57] <jtac> ikonia: usermod -G  root jtac doesnt work
[13:57] <ikonia> r3dux: The_Explorer you could have a memory leak in the game (for example)
[13:58] <r3dux> The_Explorer: Doesn't mean you had 16GB available.
[13:58] <The_Explorer> ikonia, it happens also when surfing.
[13:58] <llutz_> jtac: usermod -aG sudo username
[13:58] <morphoses> i am thinking about installing linux on to my parents computer
[13:58] <morphoses> what distro would you recommend?
[13:58] <r3dux> Don't.
[13:58] <morphoses> ubuntu or mint?
[13:58] <Snowie> morphoses, lol. where have you come buddy, what answer will you likely get
[13:58] <ikonia> morphoses: see what they like, if they like it great, if not, don't use it
[13:59] <llutz_> jtlap: if you really run "usermod -G root jtac", it removed you from all groups != root...
[13:59] <ikonia> jtlap_: where did I say anything about root
[13:59] <ikonia> jtlap_: I said add them to the admin group
[13:59] <The_Explorer> r3dux, in the task man, the game i was using never exceeded 2Gb and showed at 1x,xxx MB free
[13:59] <morphoses> heh true that Snowie
[13:59] <ikonia> The_Explorer: you wouldn't see it if it had a leak
[13:59] <ikonia> The_Explorer: run iostat 3 like I suggested see if your IO is bottlenecking
[14:00] <MrNaz_out> ok so in 12.04 apparently the firewire stack has been completely replaced... sudo modprobe raw3194    returns a no such module error... whats the correct way to work with firewire with the new fw stack?
[14:00] <r3dux> When installing *nix on a parents machine you have two choices: 1 - Install a generic linux and hope the can live with it, or 2.) Install a BSD with 3 icons on the desktop: Email, Web, Shutdown.
[14:00] <The_Explorer> ikonia, i will do as you ask. your assistance is appreciated.
[14:00] <morphoses> option 1
[14:00] <morphoses> Btw is it possible to install two separate languages for two separate profiles on ubuntu?
[14:00] <Snowie> i would say that ubuntu probably has much more easily accessible help. throw the live cd/dvd in their drive for a bit. it should still give them their photos etc. come back in a few days and see what questions they ask
[14:00] <r3dux> The_Explorer: How about this - sometimes machines segfault and crash. It's not you. It's them.
[14:01] <ikonia> morphoses: yes
[14:01] <J11_> well it seems  DISPLAY=:0.0 xterm  did the the trick
[14:01] <morphoses> i.e. english for user 1 and spanish for user 2
[14:01] <wwd> folks i am trying to export a raid device md0 over iscsi…. i am able to detect it on the initiator, however, i can't seem to get fdisk to find it...
[14:02] <wwd> not really sure what luns are do i have to specifically create one?
[14:02] <The_Explorer> r3dux, I understand that possibility. But this is recurring, with different compression methods and programs. The "sh** happens" mentality goes against my nature to comprehend the workings of... anything.
[14:02] <Snowie> morphoses, you can switch languages from the login screen i think. sec...
[14:02] <yahqod> hi, friends..
[14:02] <morphoses> ah so it's english until you select from and log in
[14:03] <morphoses> which would be the default language
[14:03] <yahqod> somenone help m3 with gnome-panel
[14:03] <Duraaraa> Hello. Does anyone know if it's possible to set up a vpn server, of any kind, without root access?
[14:04] <Snowie> morphoses, hmm. perhaps not. it's been suggested. let me keep digging http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/19765/
[14:04] <alexfu> can you do mass indent with VI ?
[14:05] <K4k> Hi, I'm trying to mount a Windows file share in Ubuntu using gvfs-mount. The same command works on another box running RedHat Linux but in Ubuntu it does not accept my password. The command I'm running is "gvfs-mount 'smb://my.domain;my_username@server.my.domain/Share_name'"
[14:05] <yahqod> How i can apply tranparent to gnome-panel
[14:06] <exiff> Hello. Is it possible to install nautilus 2.3 on precise?
[14:06] <tensorpudding> 2.3?
[14:06] <exiff> yes.
[14:06] <tensorpudding> isn't that like....really old
[14:06] <exiff> the old one
[14:07] <tensorpudding> like, from 2006 old
[14:07] <morphoses> the only way around it i see Snowie would be to install two copies of ubuntu
[14:07] <morphoses> separate^
[14:07] <exiff> which is the latest 2.X?
[14:07] <morphoses> which is annoying
[14:07] <tensorpudding> 2.30 or so
[14:07] <roasted> Hi - Question there. I have the Gimp 2.8 DEB files and Im curious which ones I need to install to have a fully functioning Gimp 2.8 without the actual PPA. Two of the packages I have are gimp-data-ubuntuppa-precise-all.deb packages, and the other 2 are gimp-ubuntu-ppa-precise_amd64.deb packages. Do I need all 4 to successfully install?
[14:07] <tensorpudding> the versions track gnome, afaik
[14:07] <exiff> in which case, is it usable on precise? that 2.30?
[14:08] <OerHeks> roasted, those are ppa packages, see the name.
[14:08] <tensorpudding> not without a separate gnome possibly
[14:08] <exiff> or will it break stuff?
[14:08] <roasted> OerHeks: I know, but we just want to dump the .deb's into the install and not have an "actual" PPA to manage.
[14:08] <ikonia> roasted: it won't work
[14:09] <ikonia> roasted: the gimp deb will fail as it won't meet the dependencies
[14:09] <roasted> ikonia: oh... well uh... we made it work before. o.O
[14:09] <ikonia> roasted: dpkg -i $debfile then
[14:09] <roasted> ikonia: yeah that's the issue I'm running into now. We did the same thing before and it worked fine though.
[14:09] <ikonia> roasted: same gimp version ?
[14:09] <roasted> ikonia: nah, it was 2.6 then.
[14:09] <ikonia> roasted: right , so that's nothing like what you did before
[14:09] <ikonia> roasted: the dependencies are totally different
[14:09] <K4k> Hi, I'm trying to mount a Windows file share in Ubuntu using gvfs-mount. The same command works on another box running RedHat Linux but in Ubuntu it does not accept my password. The command I'm running is "gvfs-mount 'smb://my.domain;my_username@server.my.domain/Share_name'"
[14:09] <ikonia> hence why the PPA breaks peoples system
[14:10] <yahqod> can someone give me a help with gnome-panel, I can not apply transparency, I put an image for what I say but partially applied using ubuntu 4.12 LTS ... Precise and fallback to gnome ... and the theme Docky I'm using GTK is Orion and Emerald window manager I use
[14:10] <roasted> ikonia: eh, that's a bummer.
[14:10] <ikonia> it will force you to pull down a load of stuff that is newer/different than the base system
[14:10] <roasted> ikonia: but that's unavoidable if you want the latest software version...
[14:10] <ikonia> roasted: not really, you can setup a PPA to not create conflicts
[14:10] <ikonia> the PPA is just setup sloppy
[14:11] <ikonia> I created a repo for 2.7 gimp just to prove it could be done
[14:11] <exiff> hmmmm, what a bother. Thanks anyway tensorpudding .
[14:11] <roasted> ikonia: the thing is, we want to actual the *actual* PPA... we're packaging our image now for 12.04 for our internal systems, so we want to be PPA-less with newer software installed, such as Gimp 2.8
[14:11] <roasted> we want to avoid*
[14:11] <ikonia> roasted: why do you want 2.8 ?
[14:12] <ikonia> roasted: and the actual PPA is the thing that breaks your OS
[14:12] <roasted> ikonia: because 2.8 is a substantial improvement over 2.6 in terms of GUI arrangement. It's going to serve as a Photoshop replacement for our students.
[14:12] <ikonia> roasted: then you need to make a whole set of packages and dependencies yourself that do not conflict with the system
[14:12] <ikonia> roasted: that's how you'd do it
[14:12] <Snowie> morphoses, sorry bout that. but as far as i can tell, yes
[14:13] <roasted> ikonia: not sure I fully understand... you're suggesting we download each and every last dependency (manually) that gimp 2.8 needs and package it from there?
[14:13] <ikonia> roasted: not at all
[14:13] <wwd> hi folks i am trying to initiate a iscsi connection with a target i setup (i am exporting an md device using iscsitarget). On the initiator I have discovered the target and iscsi -m session shows the target, however fdisk doesn't seem to be able to find it… what am i missing… thanks
[14:13] <ikonia> roasted: I'm suggesting you ignore the data in the PPA as that what will break your host, and you make your own set of packages that do not conflict with the OS and install them locally
[14:13] <fl1bbl3> ikonia: like with a tarball and checkinstall?
[14:14] <ikonia> fl1bbl3: never never never
[14:14] <OerHeks> roasted, wait for 12.10 QQ > GIMP 2.8 stable has just in landed in Ubuntu 12.10's official repos
[14:14] <fl1bbl3> haha :)
[14:14] <roasted> OerHeks: no.
[14:14] <marco> people, what do you think of a XML file format that could describe the addition and installation of software from a ppa? That way, if the user wants to install something from a ppa, all the user would need to do was to download the xml file, double-click it and confirm installation. What do you think?
[14:14] <roasted> OerHeks: we're using 12.04 for a reason, and will use it for a substantial duration of the LTS lifecycle.
[14:14] <ikonia> roasted: if you are using it for the LTS functionality then you should not even consider the packages from the gimp 2.8 PPA
[14:15] <r3dux> marco - sounds okay, but there's trust issues
[14:15] <openfreelinux> OerHeks: that's quiet a long time too wait
[14:15] <Gabrail> why ubuntu 12.04 crash and crash and crash ?
[14:15] <OerHeks> openfreelinux, less than 6 months
[14:15] <roasted> ikonia: I agree from a stability standpoint, however from a functionality standpoint Gimp 2.8 is huge for us to support...
[14:15] <obelus> !details | Gabrail
[14:15] <ikonia> Gabrail: could be many reasons, you'd need to supply info if you want help
[14:15] <Snowie> wow, just me or a ppl a bit grumpy tonight
[14:15] <marco> r3dux: I know that. But look, there's already a ppa for gimp 2.8. A lot of people want it, but it is not user-friendly to install it. I think it is a good compromise
[14:16] <`prixon> hello
[14:16] <Snowie> Gabrail, works ok for me. what is happening when your machine crashes
[14:16] <ikonia> roasted: ok, so you need to build your own gimp 2.8 packages that you can make sure do not conflict / dependency conflict with the LTS components
[14:16] <r3dux> Gabriel - ditch Unity, run Gnome 3 (Gnome Shell)
[14:16] <obelus> Snowie: I don't think so. I only used the trigger because I'm tired and it's easier than typing the message out. And now I've gone and typed anyway :(
[14:16] <`prixon> how can I fix nautilus to show the real size of items? i.e. in MiB vs MB
[14:16] <`prixon> ?
[14:16] <roasted> ikonia: allright. Problem with that is I'm drawing a blank on how to get started with that... I mean, this will be done from source, no?
[14:16] <ikonia> r3dux: he didn't say his issue was unity related
[14:16] <obelus> And r3dux, that is not a 'fix all' solution that will solve all crashes.
[14:16] <yahqod> can someone give me a help with gnome-panel, I can not apply transparency, I put an image for what I say but partially applied using ubuntu 12.04 LTS ... Precise and   gnome-fallback ... and Docky_the theme  I'm using GTK is Orion and Emerald window manager I use
[14:16] <Xeneth> morning people.  What would I need to make a log of all connections?  Example: <time> <source IP:port><Destination IP:port>  I want both incomming and outgoing, and may want when it disconnects too.
[14:17] <ikonia> roasted: it's a reasonable size task and effort no question of it, plus the testing and research to make sure your packages are sane/compatible/no-risk
[14:17] <Snowie> obelus, not directed at you mate.
[14:17] <ikonia> roasted: for this one task, I'd suggest hiring someone/canonical for the specific one off task
[14:17] <ikonia> roasted: it will be a better investment time/money wise
[14:17] <Gabrail> i am already running gnome shell but sometimes the nautilus crash and disappear and appear again
[14:17] <ultimedia> how long until 13.x is available?
[14:17] <r3dux> ikonia - you're a dick. Nnight.
[14:17] <obelus> Snowie: Oh okay lol.
[14:18] <roasted> ikonia: well, we're already in the testing phase of our image. We have a couple Linux gurus on our team, I'll run it by them and see what they have to say.
[14:18] <roasted> ikonia: it's just, me personally, I'm drawing a bit of a blank on this setup.
[14:18] <Snowie> Xeneth, first thing to mind is a script to log .... frik what's that command again. where you can see all the current connections
[14:18] <ikonia> roasted: that would be the most professional and safe advise I can offer you
[14:18] <ikonia> roasted: it's not a small task and you need a little experience to make sure you dodge conflicts
[14:19] <ikonia> roasted: if you depend on LTS, then keep away from the gimp PPA data even if it's in the PPA or not
[14:19] <roasted> ikonia: sounds good. I appreciate the insight. Hey if you got a minute, I'd like to throw some FYI's about Motion I ran into last night, in case it helps you in the future with your testing of it.
[14:19] <ikonia> roasted: jump into offtopic, but I've not touched motion for a few days
[14:19] <roasted> ikonia: you got it.
[14:20] <Xeneth> Snowie: You mean netstat?
[14:20] <Snowie> Xeneth, that would be it.
[14:20] <yahqod> pliz helq m3 witz gnome-panel
[14:21] <obelus> !details | yahqod
[14:21] <Snowie> Xeneth, but i see now it's nowhere near enough detail for what your after
[14:21] <obelus> Also, please don't use numbers in place of letters. :(
[14:22] <Xeneth> Snowie: I want it logged as it's connecting/disconnecting.  issue with netstat, is it get's current connection, not when it was astablished.
[14:22] <Xeneth> ... established
[14:23] <obelus> You can use iptables or ufw rules to log when connections are established. I wouldn't know the exact command to do it though.
[14:23] <Snowie> Xeneth, i was thinking a script that could run routinely and compare what was to what is now. might give you a rough guide.
[14:24] <obelus> Xeneth: ufw or iptables can accomplish what you want. Mine already logs all connections that it blocks, but you can set it to log connections that are allowed too. It logs time, src ip:port and dest ip:port
[14:25] <llutz_> Xeneth: just make sure you have enough diskspace for /var
[14:25] <Xeneth> obelus: Sweet, sounds like what I am looking for.  Not a public server, so I do not have to worry about bloated logs.
[14:26] <yahqod> can someone give me a help with gnome-panel, I can not apply transparency, I put an image for what I say but partially applied using ubuntu 12.04 LTS ... Precise and   gnome-fallback ... and Docky_the theme  I'm using GTK is Orion and Emerald window manager I use
[14:26] <obelus> Not sure about the way iptables does it, but the logrotator works on ufw's logs and archives them each month
[14:27] <obelus> I believe the log is customizable, but here's a sample of what mine produces, logging only blocks
[14:28] <yahqod> obelus I can not apply transparency, I put an image for what I say but partially applied using ubuntu 12.04 LTS ... Precise and   gnome-fallback ... and Docky_the theme  I'm using GTK is Orion and Emerald window manager I use
[14:28] <obelus> May 27 06:55:42 theseus kernel: [204476.101100] [UFW BLOCK] IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=08:00:27:19:5a:76:50:e5:49:5f:14:75:08:00 SRC=192.168.1.101 DST=192.168.1.2 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=128 ID=24945 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=63067 DPT=1320 WINDOW=8192 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[14:28] <obelus> I hope that isn't too spammy - I tried using pastebinit for it, but the text shot off to the side and wouldnt scroll
[14:29] <obelus> yahqod: I don't have the answer for you.
[14:29] <yahqod> obelus check my problem witz gnome-panel   http://i.imgur.com/iDbPs.png
[14:30] <FfoO> Greetings everyone. Could anyone tell me a command to save session to disk and shut down? I need to switch rooms but I don't want to close everything and run them all again.
[14:30] <maxagaz> hi
[14:30] <maxagaz> how to get ettercap working on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[14:30] <JoseAntonioR> FfoO: I think suspend would work fine.
[14:30] <llutz_> Xeneth: iptables examples: http://bit.ly/LQJfNh   and as i said, be aware, those logs will be huge
[14:30] <obelus> yahqod: All I can suggest is that maybe it's your theme. Other than that, I don't have any suggestions
[14:31] <yahqod> okkk obelus thank u..
[14:31] <obelus> Xeneth: I'd probably scroll down a bit and look at the example for only logging the initial connection to make your logs more readable
[14:32] <FfoO> JoseAntonioR: This one saves on RAM. I need something like hibernate, for I don't have battery pack anymore.
[14:32] <JoseAntonioR> FfoO: You can use hibernate too.
[14:33] <morphoses> is there a non-bloatware version of Ubuntu?
[14:33] <FfoO> JoseAntonioR: Is there a command line? I can't see the option on the desktop environment (Gnome-Shell-Remix)
[14:34] <Snowie> morphoses, lubuntu, but the interface is quite different
[14:34] <llutz_> !mini | morphoses try this if that wasn't a trolling-attempt
[14:34] <JoseAntonioR> FfoO: Ctrl+Alt+T
[14:34] <bjorkintosh> morphoses, debian.
[14:34] <morphoses> debian's a no go..my laptop's sound drivers go awry with debian
[14:35] <bjorkintosh> ah right.
[14:35] <bjorkintosh> is it an old laptop?
[14:35] <bjorkintosh> i use xubuntu myself.
[14:35] <Snowie> morphoses, i have had that running on laptops that still had IR ports and floppy drives
[14:35] <bjorkintosh> i've got a 40 gig harddisk.
[14:35] <bjorkintosh> infact, it's what i'm using right now...
[14:35] <justdave> is there somewhere in Ubuntu to reprogram keyboard keys or how they're interpreted?  My keyboard has media keys on it, which Ubuntu recognizes, but recognizes them wrong. :)  It thinks my "volume up" button is actually "activate screensaver" despite not being set for that in the Keyboard Shortcuts panel
[14:35] <bjorkintosh> a dell inspiron 6000.
[14:35] <Snowie> morphoses, but, minimal cd and pick and choose, is, most likely a better option
[14:36] <justdave> I don't see a defined shortcut for "activate screensaver" in the control panel, only "lock screen", and that one's disabled, but hitting my volume up button locks the screen anyway
[14:37] <justdave> if I try to program "volume up" for that button, it puts "screensaver" as the name of the key I pushed
[14:37] <morphoses> Thank you..I've used Ubuntu before and it comes with extra apps that won't be needed by rent's, so instead of manually uninstalling everything figured going with a lite/minimal version would be the good choice
[14:37] <justdave> and it still activates the screensaver instead of bumping the volume when I press it.
[14:37] <FfoO> JoseAntonioR: I need the command, please.
[14:37] <The_Explorer> ikonia, As a randomed style troubleshooting curiousity, I reran the compression process in question under a tightvnc rooted Xsession. It appears im having no issues.
[14:37] <FfoO> I already have the terminal
[14:37] <JoseAntonioR> FfoO: The command is hibernate, IIRC
[14:38] <morphoses> once i order wireless adapters i'd be set..i've been bashing my head against the rock trying to install windows on this HD..bs properity drivers etc
[14:39] <stimpie> I have several applications (eg monoDevelop) that do not show in the launcher or tab switcher. Any clues why?
[14:39] <FfoO> JoseAntonioR: Okay, I'll try. Thanks in advance for the help. If it works, I might quit to ping.
[14:40] <diverdude> my lenovo w520 gets extremely hot when running ubuntu doing nothing demanding. Why?? When running windows this does not happen.
[14:40] <justdave> meh, looks like my keyboard thing is a bug in xorg.
[14:40] <justdave> found it in launchpad
[14:40] <justdave> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/377175
[14:41] <justdave> that's a 3-year-old bug :(
[14:41] <stimpie> diverdude, use system monitor to see what is going on
[14:42] <diverdude> stimpie: nothing seems to really be going on
[14:42] <diverdude> stimpie:  that is why i dont understand why its so hot
[14:42] <cuddylier> Hello, How would I transfer a mysql database from one computer to another?
[14:42] <jiffe98> anyone know why I am getting this? http://nsab.us/public/mdadm  It seems to fail to add sdd to the raid but adds it to another raid device ?
[14:44] <The_Explorer> *Old School Gnome*: Does anyone know if theres a script or other method of getting gnome back the way I used to have it?
[14:44] <stimpie> diverdude, it could be something with your graphics card.
[14:44] <larissa> cuddylier, you don't want/can't make a dump and restore the dump in another computer?
[14:45] <cuddylier> Sure
[14:45] <llutz_> cuddylier: use mysqldump, dump the database into a file, transfer to other computer
[14:45] <diverdude> stimpie: is it because ubuntu does not support my hardware properly?
[14:45] <cuddylier> llutz_ Where would it dump the mysql?
[14:45] <cuddylier> llutz_ Also, how would I then set it up on the other computer?
[14:45] <llutz_> cuddylier: whereever you tell it to do
[14:45] <FfoO> The_Explorer: have you tried on GRUB screen, or maybe log in screen...?
[14:45] <cuddylier> llutz_ Does it ask me when I type that command?
[14:46] <ratanparai> The_Explorer: I think ubuntu 12.04 have this option, gnome classic
[14:46] <llutz_> cuddylier: no, read "man mysqldump"
[14:46] <cuddylier> llutz_ I'm a ubuntu n00b
[14:46] <cuddylier> llutz_ Where would I type the directory then
[14:46] <stimpie> diverdude, I assume you have 2 graphics cards (i7 + nvidia) for 'normal' usage only the intel is required. The drivers on windows disable the NVIDIA
[14:47] <llutz_> cuddylier: open a terminal, type "man mysqldump" and read.
[14:47] <FfoO> The_Explorer: You should first try first the Login screen as Gnome-classic, indeed.
[14:47] <aquaqaua> Having hard time burning ubuntu iso to my dvd .. it throws up this error http://i.imgur.com/LEZJe.png
[14:47] <Phidog> xfce master race
[14:47] <mohtadi> hi everyone, please, is there a way to make the usb-mass storage module in kernel as a module, and be able to load an embedded system (linux based of couse) from a usb key?
[14:47] <aquaqaua> how to do i adjust wrtie speed in windows image burner ?
[14:47] <diverdude> stimpie: that is correct. but why is that causing heat in such vast amounts?
[14:47] <Phidog> aquaqua why don't you make it on a flash drive?
[14:47] <Phidog> use lili for flash drives, unetbootin sucks
[14:47] <bjorkintosh> is there anyway to convince jackd to use my usb sound card?
[14:48] <compdoc> aquaqaua, it thinks the media youre using is junk
[14:48] <stimpie> diverdude: iam not sure, just making a suggestion
[14:49] <aquaqaua> Thanks all for guys ! :D
[14:49] <stimpie> diverdude, you could try: http://www.tautvidas.com/blog/2012/04/disabling-nvidia-optimus-enabled-card-on-ubuntu-12-dot-04/
[14:55] <sacarlson> mohtadi: I think that's how most of us install ubuntu these days with a usb flash drive so I guess I guess the answer is yes
[14:57] <bieb> anyone here use Crossover Office?
[14:58] <maxagaz> how to have ettercap working on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[15:00] <seeker3b>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:00] <MSullins> If i install ubuntu on my system and replace windows 7, can i at any time use my windows 7 recovery disk to reinstall windows and get rid of ubuntu?
[15:00] <ikonia> MSullins: yes
[15:00] <raphul> alguem fala portugues aqui ??
[15:01] <shazzner> I don't think the recovery disk installs the full os
[15:01] <DJones> !pt | raphul
[15:01] <shazzner> unless it's like one of the dell laptops that come with a disk
[15:01] <raphul> ok é q sou novo aqui e nao entendo muito disso
[15:01] <mietek> My gnome-terminal cursor doesn't blink, and I want it to blink.  I checked /desktop/gnome/interface/cursor_blink, and it's set to true.  /apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default/cursor_blink_mode is set to on.  What else is there?
[15:01] <MSullins> i think my disk do... it has a system disk and language packs and stuff.
[15:02] <wawowe> maxagaz: apt-get install ettercap-graphical
[15:02] <maxagaz> wawowe: and it works for you ?
[15:02] <maxagaz> wawowe: I mean, you can run it ?
[15:02] <shazzner> MSullins: I would probably just dual boot for now, instead of wiping win 7. Just in case.
[15:02] <shazzner> just my opinion though
[15:03] <wawowe> maxagaz: yup, ettercap -G
[15:03] <wawowe> maxagaz: or -C
[15:03] <MSullins> ok, but im dual booting right now and its kinda sluggish and keeps saying it encountered an internal error
[15:04] <maxagaz> wawowe: great, thanks!
[15:04] <shazzner> huh, are you using Wubi by chance?
[15:04] <MSullins> yes
[15:04] <kantlivelong> anyone here have experience with bumblebee?
[15:04] <shazzner> ah that explains it
[15:04] <shazzner> yeah wubi is pretty slow
[15:05] <wawowe> maxagaz: you need to run it as root
[15:05] <shazzner> if you install ubuntu, but tell it to install alongside windows 7, it will create a separate partition
[15:05] <shazzner> and install grub so you can choose which os you want
[15:05] <maxagaz> wawowe: yes, it works now with the -G option
[15:05] <shazzner> you'll get full hardware acceleration and none of the weird issues wubi has sometimes
[15:05] <MSullins> ok, how would i "uninstall" that partion if needed?
[15:06] <maxagaz> wawowe: wondering why it's not -G by default, it's hard to know it...
[15:06] <fraterm> is there any enhancement to the proxy configuration in ubuntu to allow proxy to be bypassed for certain URLS/Networks?
[15:06] <shazzner> in that case I think window recover disk will work
[15:06] <wawowe> maxagaz: because you can run it without an interface
[15:06] <MSullins> ok, and how would i install GRUB?
[15:06] <maxagaz> wawowe: hmm, ok
[15:06] <shazzner> ubuntu will do it automagically
[15:07] <maxagaz> wawowe: I'll try some mitm attack tomorrow, thanks for your help :-)
[15:07] <shazzner> basically you'll install it alongside of windows (it's one of the options) and next time you boot it will have a menu showing all os options
[15:07] <shazzner> that's grub
[15:07] <MSullins> ok so would i also need to shrink my windows partion?
[15:08] <shazzner> ubuntu should do that too
[15:08] <ironhalik> anyone noticed the lockscreen locking only one display? while still showing the contents of the other one? (you can even click on stuff there)
[15:08] <MSullins> is it safe to let it shrink it?
[15:08] <shazzner> sometimes it makes weird descions though and doesn't give enough swap, so if you really really know what you're doing you can partition it yourself
[15:08] <diverdude> all my CPU's (i have 4) are around 80 degrees, and im not really doing anything "hard work" on my computer. just running ubuntu. Is this normal?
[15:08] <shazzner> I've never had any issues, it's pretty stable these days
[15:08] <jiffe98> why would mdadm --create give me the message 'mdadm: ADD_NEW_DISK for /dev/sdc failed: Device or resource busy' ?
[15:08] <shazzner> your milage may vary
[15:09] <shazzner> that being said though, make sure you have enough free space to begin with
[15:09] <shazzner> ie have a least 10gb or so free on the disk before you start
[15:09] <MSullins> my hard drive is like 250 GB.
[15:10] <sacarlson> jiffe98: sounds like maybe something on /dev/sdc is mounted
[15:10] <shazzner> but if the data is up to 249 GB it'll wind up destroy data
[15:10] <shazzner> *destroying
[15:10] <diverdude> all my CPU's (i have 4) are around 80 degrees, and im not really doing anything "hard work" on my computer. just running ubuntu. Is this normal?
[15:11] <shazzner> if you get my meaning
[15:11] <MSullins> there is atleast 120 GB free with windows and all my current files on it.
[15:11] <jiffe98> sacarlson: its not though
[15:11] <shazzner> ok you should be fine then :)
[15:12] <jiffe98> sacarlson: nothing mounted, I've run --zero-superblock on it, I've tried passing --assume-clean to mdadm --create but it won't add sdd to that raid device
[15:12] <MSullins> Great, still a little scared to do it but i guess i will test my luck =-O
[15:13] <shazzner> MSullins: yeah good luck, let this channel know if you have any issues
[15:13] <jiffe98> mdadm just seems very problematic, I've had problems with pretty much every raid device I've tried to create
[15:13] <tbrown> WIth the Mini Ubuntu iso and I want to get a desktop envirment and I dont know if I should put a password ui or something is there away that I can type in my password and user name in the terminal and go to the desktop experence or something Please I was wondering this how to do this for 2 days:)
[15:13] <MSullins> how big of a jump drive would i need to do this?
[15:14] <shazzner> MSullins: at least 1gb I believe
[15:14] <shazzner> I always a cd though, so I'm not sure
[15:14] <shazzner> *use a
[15:14] <fasta> If I press `, I would like ~ to be generated in every application. How can that be done?
[15:14] <MSullins> ok thanks!
[15:16] <kRush> anyone else having trouble with xchat not saving the separator position between channel switcher and user list (both set to right side)?
[15:18] <annecy> i have opensuse with gnome shell on a netbook. a huge problem is that dialogues go off the bottom of the screen, and i have to rotate the display to read the contents. is the same in unity?
[15:19] <jiffe98> when I try to run 'mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdd' it says 'mdadm: Couldn't open /dev/sdd for write - not zeroing' so it at least thinks something is using it
[15:19] <jiffe98> its not mounted nor is it attached to any raid devices according to /proc/mdstat
[15:20] <jiffe98> although /proc/mdstat says unused devices: <none>
[15:21] <jiffe98> hah, I did a --stop and --assemble --force and it attached it now
[15:21] <jiffe98> mdadm is really hokey
[15:24] <shaneo> and humble bundle V users in here? if so what opengl pkg do i need to install to play Psychonauts
[15:25] <shaneo> *any
[15:28] <fugitivecoast> Hi, I was wondering if anyone here could help me with an issue I am having with wine.
[15:30] <usb333> hi guys. I have two jack ports but I can only useone headphone at a time. any idea why?
[15:32] <OranGO> guys Ihave forgot the name of a website
[15:32] <OranGO> it's a website where you can generate your phone number and send sms
[15:32] <OranGO> do you know it?
[15:33] <oCean> OranGO: how is that an Ubuntu issue? Try #ubuntu-offtopic for example
[15:33] <OranGO> pff
[15:35] <diverdude> any lenovo users in here?
[15:36] <vancha> can anyone help me with an installation problem?
[15:36] <vancha> i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 here, but i have run into a problem i can't seem to fix. anyone?
[15:39] <bogor> vancha, what problem
[15:39] <newbee> how can i set the default audio output device in unity?
[15:39] <CookieM_> describe the problem and wait patiently for someone who would help you
[15:40] <vancha> when i try to install ubuntu 12.04, i get exit code 141? installation aborts :(
[15:41] <bogor> vancha, you are installing on what
[15:41] <vancha> on my main pc, with the following hardware: q6600 @ 2,4ghz, 3gb ddr2, ati hd5670
[15:42] <vancha> p5kpl-am epu motherboard
[15:42] <curiousx> vancha: everything will be ok
[15:42] <CookieM_> vancha http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11943905
[15:42] <vancha> curiousx: thats what i thought :( but thats just where the installation stops...
[15:43] <vancha> thx, ill be reading that thread then ;)
[15:44] <curiousx> oh! i see is a laptop
[15:45] <tbrown> I just took a 5 hr enagery I hope it works lol:) Trying to stay awake running Ubuntu Mini. I dont know why am tired all the time lol.
[15:45] <curiousx> vancha: there is an alternete.iso for cases like that
[15:45] <vancha> curiousx: ill give it a try :O thx man
[15:45] <curiousx> or, you can try acpi=off
[15:45] <vancha> tried that ;)
[15:46] <curiousx> ok, so the alternate cd will help, the alternate install is some like that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX06eFe2SuU
[15:46] <bieb> I have a print issue.. I am using Crossover office to provide MS Office to students (required from higher-ups).. office works fine.. but when I try to print from ms-office (word, excel and powerpoint) it prints a blank page, then an error page... Error: undefinedresult   Offending Command: awidthshow   STACK: 0 0 32 0 0. Printing uses wineps. but printing from Libre works fine..
[15:47] <tbrown> Does anyone in here like xfce or lxde. What is more Windows base like will the desktop experence or something:)
[15:47] <curiousx> vancha: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[15:47] <vancha> thanks a lot guys!
[15:47] <curiousx> np
[15:47] <pygmy> hi
[15:47] <vancha> downloading right now ;) ill come back if it works/didnt work.
[15:47] <intok> tbrown mate desktop
[15:47] <tbrown> intok: Sorry:) I dont understand?
[15:48] <matt_caffeine> is there a way to set the bg color of individual tmux panes?
[15:49] <reisio> matt_caffeine: #tmux
[15:49] <tbrown> intok: Thanks I did not know that was a Desktop Enviroment Sorry About that:)
[15:49] <intok> tbrown it's Gnome2, I.E. Gnome before it sucked http://mate-desktop.org/
[15:50] <XiaYixuan> hi
[15:50] <reisio> hi
[15:51] <XiaYixuan> how do I enable the displaying of  Chinese characters on Ubuntu?
[15:52] <tbrown> intok: Ya I kind of dont like the Gnome in linux mint that one sucks. It to dang big for application work and the application icons looks so like a Tablet PC. I like lxde Better then Gnome But Gnome classic I cant seem to get it to work on Ubuntu. everytime I install it on a server base I cant get it two work. The os goes back to the terminal base how can I get it two go to the desktop?
[15:52] <reisio> XiaYixuan: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage#chinese
[15:52] <reisio> XiaYixuan: I mean they should _display_ by default
[15:52] <reisio> using the locale system wide is another matter
[15:53] <XiaYixuan> I can see an X in a square
[15:53] <reisio> XiaYixuan: you could be missing fonts
[15:53] <tbrown> Does anyone in here no how to change to the desktop experence when you install it on a server or do you have to install the GUI for the password. And how can I just type in the user name and password for just on the terminal and just go into a desktop session or something. Is there away to do that or am I crazy:)
[15:53] <reisio> XiaYixuan: I imagine installing from an image from the ubuntu china website would have it all configured already
[15:54] <matt_caffeine> thanks reisio- got a quick answer there.
[15:54] <reisio> tbrown: server doesn't come with the desktop stuff, IIRC
[15:54] <XiaYixuan> XChat displays the characters fine
[15:54] <reisio> tbrown: you'd have to install it
[15:54] <XiaYixuan> but Mnemosyne does it wrong
[15:54] <reisio> XiaYixuan: okay, where do you see this X box?
[15:54] <reisio> mattgyver: booya :p
[15:55] <CookieM_> XiaYixuan http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17528/change-the-user-interface-language-in-ubuntu/
[15:55] <tbrown> reisio: Yes I understand that I have to install the desktop envirment first I just wonder after the desktop is installed how can I get into the desktop session???
[15:55] <reisio> XiaYixuan: http://www.mnemosyne-proj.org/help/advanced-preferences.php
[15:55] <reisio> tbrown: you could: start lightdm, or run startx
[15:56] <reisio> tbrown: (or configure ~/.xinitrc and run startx, that is)
[15:57] <tbrown> reisio: I was wondering about that about startx because that works on backtrack two. But I installed the desktop experence or something and I tryed to run startx it work but it did not show the desktop or it did but it show the desktop and the mouse and when I type something it went to the bottom right corner screen:)
[15:58] <reisio> tbrown: you _are_ meant to configure ~/.xinitrc first
[15:58] <XiaYixuan> thx now it works like heaven
[15:59] <tbrown> reisio: How can I configur it first sorry am new two this stuff:)
[15:59] <reisio> say by adding 'exec ck-launch-session gnome-session' to it (or whatever GNOME 3's executable is
[15:59] <reisio> XiaYixuan: what was it?
[15:59] <XiaYixuan> I needed to set Mnemosyne's font to be a Chinese one
[16:00] <reisio> in its own prefs?
[16:00] <XiaYixuan> yeah
[16:00] <reisio> k good to know
[16:00] <reisio> there are a few fonts that support most chars
[16:00] <reisio> http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/fonts.html
[16:01] <reisio> as in western and CJK
[16:01] <XiaYixuan> I first set it to a Japanese font, I suppose...
[16:01] <rad_daemon> I have installed Ubuntu Server 12.04. How will I install the default window manager?
[16:01] <reisio> rad_daemon: the default window manager... from the desktop edition?
[16:01] <rad_daemon> reisio, yes
[16:01] <reisio> rad_daemon: you want just the wm or the entire desktop environment?
[16:02] <mneptok> rad_daemon: that's Unity. you'll also need lightdm and other dependencies.
[16:02] <rad_daemon> reisio, the entire desktop environment
[16:02] <reisio> rad_daemon: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, IIRC
[16:02] <mneptok> rad_daemon: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:02] <rad_daemon> reisio, mneptok, thanks
[16:03] <mneptok> rad_daemon: be aware, that gives you a full-blown Ubuntu desktop. including LibreOffice, Firefox, and all the apps that come with a desktop install.
[16:04] <NastyNaz> how do i paste in to irssi/terminal? ctrl+v not working
[16:04] <mneptok> NastyNaz: ctl-shift-v
[16:04] <NastyNaz> cheers
[16:04] <rad_daemon> mneptok, yes that's fine
[16:04] <mneptok> rad_daemon: just making sure you know.
[16:04] <bahamas> hello. for ubuntu 11.10 is there a way to not have the windows of the same program lumped together?
[16:05] <bahamas> so that when I cycle through them with alt+tab, I see all of them from the start
[16:05] <bahamas> and I don't have to wait a few seconds on the group that I'm interested in
[16:05] <XiaYixuan> can I install Mnemosyne twice?
[16:05] <aafg> i have unresponsive dsktp 10.04 what do i do to make it responsive
[16:05] <XiaYixuan> on the same system
[16:06] <aafg> sorry for soellig typig fom mobile
[16:06] <reisio> aafg: unresponsive?
[16:06] <reisio> XiaYixuan: to accomplish what?
[16:07] <aafg> reisio i men hanged, curors not moving nor fan i tyoe
[16:07] <XiaYixuan> reisio: nothing
[16:07] <XiaYixuan> reisio: I think it's not needed
[16:07] <aafg> sorry my spelling, i mean hanged
[16:08] <aafg> typing from mobile, plapologies
[16:08] <reisio> XiaYixuan: probably not
[16:08] <XiaYixuan> reisio: I realized I can have more than one decks
[16:08] <aafg> apologies *
[16:09] <reisio> XiaYixuan: right
[16:09] <reisio> aafg: can you CTRL+ALT+F2 to get to a console?
[16:10] <aafg> could qnyone help me, unresponsive ubuntu
[16:10] <zizzu> congratulation with ubuntu 12.04, best release ever, if you install nvidia drivers and use flash player u get kicked to the login screen losing all data, if you update nvidia driver with those from nvidia you see flash player video all blue and you get randomly kicked to the login screen losin all data, i gav up after i was watching a blue video and got kicked to the login screen FATALITY FTW
[16:10] <Bulletrulz> hello
[16:11] <aafg> reisio nope still to no avail
[16:11] <reisio> zizzu: former is impossible, latter is nvidia's/adobe's fault :D
[16:11] <obelus> zizzu: I don't know the exact cause of your issue, but it isn't '12.04 doesn't work with nvidia drivers and flash player'
[16:11] <Bulletrulz> zizzu lol xD just use lubuntu
[16:11] <obelus> I've used 12.04 with nvidia and flash player together and not had any issues
[16:11] <reisio> using lubuntu won't help
[16:11] <moustafa> Sorry, xchat crashed
[16:12] <Bulletrulz> zizzu Probely Lieng
[16:12] <zizzu> i done DD if=/dev/zero of=UBUNTU and installed FEDORA 17
[16:12] <shazzner> I've only watched flash videos in Opera which render perfectly; hope this helps
[16:12] <oCean> zizzu: so you came just to rant, please don't continue
[16:12] <Bulletrulz> hes probely a macintosh fan boy who
[16:12] <oCean> Bulletrulz: let's move on
[16:12] <reisio> aafg: try CTRL+ALT+PrtScrn+k
[16:12] <aafg> reisio any other workaround
[16:13] <Bulletrulz> Hey everyone to update press alt+f4
[16:13] <reisio> zizzu: that won't help you, either
[16:13] <Bulletrulz> lol
[16:13] <reisio> zizzu: nvidia's driver issues and Flash sucking are universal
[16:13] <reisio> not only across all Linux distros, but across all OSes :p
[16:14] <Bulletrulz> zizzu i did not have that problem my bro had nvideo drivers
[16:14] <qknight--> hi. i have a ubuntu server system here and it seems to have no /var/log/messages before 30.5.2012 which is odd. that is the case on two servers here. do i miss something?
[16:14] <qknight--> i meant /var/log/syslog
[16:14] <oCean> Bulletrulz: your "joke" is not appreciated, don't do that here
[16:14] <aafg> reisio 10.04 wont budge even then
[16:14] <Bulletrulz> oCean And Who are you? lol
[16:14] <oCean> !guidelines > Bulletrulz
[16:15] <oCean> I suggest you read our channel's guidelines before you continue
[16:15] <Bulletrulz> lol no
[16:15] <qknight--> i see a file /var/log/syslog and /var/log/syslog.1 as well as 7 other files nameed /var/log/syslog.2.gz to /var/log/syslog.7.gz
[16:15] <reisio> aafg: well you could fix it from the live image
[16:15] <Bulletrulz> ill stop though
[16:15] <Bulletrulz> xD
[16:15] <boby> Hi
[16:15] <Bulletrulz> hello boby
[16:15] <boby> Is there a french Chan for Ubuntu (as Ubuntu-fr or smth else?)
[16:15] <bahamas> it looks like the tab behavior is done on purpose and there's no way around it
[16:16] <oCean> !fr | boby
[16:16] <boby> thanks
[16:16] <Bulletrulz> I HATE MAC FAN BOYS WHO THINK STEVE JOBS IS A GOD
[16:16] <Bulletrulz> !
[16:16] <reisio> interesting location for that
[16:18] <aafg> reissio, others please help me
[16:18] <Kinenkaya> oCean: thank you
[16:18] <aafg> reisio
[16:18] <reisio> aafg: boot up the Ubuntu install image, use the 'Try' option, get back on IRC and we can take it from there
[16:20] <aafg> reisio this is dual boot, does 8.*  suffice cd
[16:21] <reisio> aafg: does what?
[16:22] <aafg> reisio 8.* install cd suffice, i have to search in house
[16:22] <Kochon> Hi um, I upgraded Ubuntu to the latest version, and throughout the process it asked me on which drive I wanted to put grub, so I picked the drive on which Ubuntu is installed, but now it won't boot at all, I'm stuck :( can anyone help?
[16:22] <reisio> aafg: oh, yes
[16:22] <reisio> aafg: virtually any live image
[16:23] <reisio> Kochon: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[16:23] <Kochon> I didnt install windows but I guess you're pointing me there just so I repair grub, thanks!
[16:24] <reisio> Kochon: it's the same process regardless
[16:24] <reisio> reinstalling grub is reinstalling grub :D
[16:24]  * reisio didn't pick the URI
[16:24] <Kochon> alright I'll try that, thanks a bunch
[16:25] <tbrown> Going to install LXDE Desktop Envirement on Ubuntu Minimal. Am reading an article on Ubuntu Forums. So Does anyone else like LXDE or XFCE Desktop Experence. I like them both:)
[16:26] <dr3mro> how to make an applications not to use compiz animation like audacious ?
[16:28] <reisio> tbrown: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu
[16:29] <reisio> dr3mro: #compiz
[16:31] <tbrown> reisio: Hardy Heron 8.04 am installing and reading an article on how to install it on it it okay I got it I dont need any help on this project lol:) Just giving people heads up on what am doing:)
[16:31] <reisio> 8.04? :/
[16:32] <reisio> ...you sure you don't need help?
[16:32] <tbrown> Yep
[16:32] <reisio> 'cause... that version is four years old
[16:32] <oCean> and not longer supported
[16:32] <Happy_Man> try 12.04
[16:32] <Happy_Man> it's four years better :P
[16:33] <tbrown> reisio: That is true:) But it is LTS so I can upgrade anytime:)
[16:33] <reisio> from the server edition you could
[16:33] <reisio> for another year, sure
[16:34] <bakarat> if i set up a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, it works great...until i reboot, has something changed concerning static ips in 12.04?
[16:34] <reisio> bakarat: what happens when you reboot?
[16:35] <Luca> Hello
[16:35] <reisio> hi Luca
[16:35] <bakarat> reisio, well, in general it seems to uses dhcp again though a few days ago i had the weird effect of my pc telling me i had x.x.x.69 (while the fixed one is x.x.x.100) and i could still ping 69 &100
[16:35] <bakarat> reisio, but basically the system thinks (and acts) like it uses dhcp again
[16:35] <Luca> I have seen some screenshots of the ubuntu installer with an option install alongside Windows, do I have to prepare unpartitioned free space in windows for that to work?
[16:36] <bakarat> (i'm not an expert so sorry for being "vague")
[16:36] <reisio> bakarat: how're you determining it's using dhcp again?
[16:36] <Luca> I tried Wubi but I want a proper install since wubi was horribly slow
[16:36] <reisio> Luca: I believe it's meant to resize for you
[16:36] <bakarat> reisio, well it's a guess based on the fact that it gets the same address it had before i made it static. I have not monitored actual network traffic to see dhcp requests going out
[16:36] <reisio> Luca: you should defrag NTFS volumes from inside Windows beforehand, though
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> Luca:  check how your hard drives are partioned now. if you have 4 primary partions. you will need to do some work by hand
[16:36] <reisio> Luca: and backup anything you can't live without, as resizing is not 100000% safe
[16:36] <bakarat> reisio, also, if i restart the networking and network-manager (or combination thereof), it goes back to the static one
[16:37] <reisio> bakarat: so ifconfig doesn't show the IP you set it to be?
[16:37] <SilverWolfXIII> ok so i loaded my live 12.04 disk and now all it is showing is a black screen with a cursor in the upper left corner any suggestions
[16:37] <bakarat> reisio, indeed, until i restart the /etc/init.d/networking & network manager
[16:37] <reisio> SilverWolfXIII: what're you trying to do?
[16:37] <reisio> bakarat: and then it is?
[16:38] <SilverWolfXIII> test it to see if it runs before install
[16:38] <reisio> s/is/does show the ip you set/
[16:38] <bakarat> reisio, ye seems to be ok then
[16:38] <reisio> SilverWolfXIII: nvidia card?
[16:38] <SilverWolfXIII> yea gtx 550 ti
[16:38] <reisio> bakarat: maybe networkmanager is getting in the way, hum
[16:38] <bakarat> reisio, any chance that network manager is doing something it shouldn't? (i have no clue how it works)
[16:38] <SilverWolfXIII> is that the problem i have debian installed but to advanced for me
[16:39] <reisio> SilverWolfXIII: my guess is it's trying to use nouveau (an open source driver that's less problematic to distribute) and it isn't quite familiar with that hardware configuration
[16:39] <bakarat> reisio, is it actually used for anything else or would it be safe/possible to shut network manager down?
[16:39] <reisio> SilverWolfXIII: so you'd want to use the proprietary nvidia driver
[16:39] <reisio> SilverWolfXIII: too advanced, they're like... practically the same
[16:39] <SilverWolfXIII> how do i doenload a live disk with the other driver
[16:39] <reisio> bakarat: mostly it's used for wireless network management
[16:39] <reisio> bakarat: you use wireless networks with this box?
[16:39] <bakarat> reisio, ah, it's on a desktop computer so not a problem
[16:39] <reisio> SilverWolfXIII: you don't usually :)
[16:39] <reisio> SilverWolfXIII: it's completely black?
[16:40] <reisio> SilverWolfXIII: you could install from the 'alternate' install image, possibly
[16:40] <reisio> which theoretically puts fewer demands on the gpu during install
[16:40] <SilverWolfXIII> yea all black
[16:40] <reisio> bakarat: you could try disabling networkmanager from starting at bootup, reboot and see if that helps
[16:40] <SilverWolfXIII> with a blinking cursor
[16:40] <bakarat> reisio, ye will do, thanks :)
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[16:40] <reisio> SilverWolfXIII: like a rectangle?
[16:40] <SilverWolfXIII> yea
[16:41] <reisio> doesn't sound like it got very far, then
[16:41] <SilverWolfXIII> ubottu: thanks
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> SilverWolfXIII:  the nomodeset option is needed for some nvidia systems
[16:41] <bakarat> i don't know if the post has simply faded into the background or there is genuinly no advice, but could something look at my dual screen problem that emerged with 12.04? (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11979654)
[16:41] <SilverWolfXIII> no i saw the start of the boot and then it went to the black cursor screen
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> SilverWolfXIII:  definatly try the nomodeset option
[16:42] <SilverWolfXIII> it gives me no options at this point it hasnt gone to the boot choice screen yet
[16:42] <SilverWolfXIII> this is happening as it loads the disk from boot
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> SilverWolfXIII:  read the info at the nomodeset wiki page. it shows you how to use it.
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> you tell it to use nomodeset befor the main os boots
[16:43] <Luca> hmm I wouldnt have enough space on C: to resize anyway, can it also install and resize on a different partition?
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> Luca:  you can install ubuntu on any partition.
[16:43] <SilverWolfXIII> this is happening as it boots to cd from bios screen
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> Luca:  you could install to a external usb hd if you wnated.
[16:44] <Luca> that would be silly? the bootloader would be on the external hdd and required to boot either OS?
[16:45] <SilverWolfXIII> im doing a dual boot with win 7 so i want to get rid of debian cuz i dunno enough yet to use it and dual boot with ubuntu and win 7
[16:45] <Jancoover> Hi there :) I have a problem with installing new software on my ubuntu 10.10. How shall I install programs from tar.gz2 packages? Is there any command?
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> Luca:  i dont find it silly at all. I got ubuntu on my external usb. with grub on the external usb. I can boot that ubuntu system on most any pc i have.
[16:45] <Happy_Man> hi
[16:45] <Happy_Man> i'd like to run a user job through upstart
[16:46] <Happy_Man> i've changed around by Upstart.conf
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> Luca:  the windows hd and bootloader for windows is not touched at all
[16:46] <Happy_Man> but it still doesn't seem to be working
[16:46] <tbrown> Installing gedit to go into the /etc/apt/sources.list to put in some commands:)
[16:46] <Luca> orly interesting
[16:46] <Jancoover> Hi there :) I have a problem with installing new software on my ubuntu 10.10. How shall I install programs from tar.gz2 packages? Is there any command?
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> 10.10| Jancoover
[16:47] <reisio> SilverWolfXIII: you said :)
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> !10.10| Jancoover
[16:47] <Dr_Willis> Jancoover:  you compile source code - if thats whats in teh archive.
[16:47] <Dr_Willis> Jancoover:  so it depends on whats in the archive.
[16:47] <Dr_Willis> Jancoover:  and its a good idea to upgrade to a newer version of ubuntu
[16:47] <Jancoover> there is a lot of different stuff in the archive
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> Jancoover:  look for some docs on how to cimouike uit.
[16:48] <windbuntu> Ubuntu 12.04 is installed to HD on my desktop as the stand alone OS. it takes less than a minute to boot up but on the way up...when the purple boot screen says ubuntu, and the little dots flow past, a message appears stsating that my disk drive is not ready or not present...then it boots up after that anyway?
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> compile it.. or whatever it is..
[16:48] <windbuntu> stating*
[16:48] <abkarch> hey guys? if i installed ubuntu along windows 7, does it install on the same partition? because i have two unlabed and unlettered partitions in my drive, that according to windows are empty. I just want to know if i can delete them
[16:49] <reisio> abkarch: if they don't have data on them that you want, you can delete them
[16:49] <stueng> did you use wubi ? abkarch ?
[16:49] <windbuntu> i am curious as to how ubuntu 12.04 boots up if it think my disk is not present. I am also curious why it thinks its not present.
[16:49] <stueng> windows cant see ext4 etc so they are not going to have letters etc
[16:50] <stueng> so  I wouldnt delete them...
[16:50] <reisio> windbuntu: from the live image?
[16:50] <abkarch> stueng: no
[16:50] <Jancoover> .wik partition
[16:50] <windbuntu> no its installed to my HD as the stand alone OS reiso
[16:50] <windbuntu> i gave it the whole drive
[16:50] <stueng> abkarch, then no ubuntu would not be on the same partition as windows it will be somewhere else
[16:50] <windbuntu> except for a 1 gig swap
[16:50] <reisio> windbuntu: it must not be on the disk you think it's telling you isn't present
[16:50] <stueng> abkarch, go into ubuntu where you can see all the different partitions and mount them and figure out from ubuntu rather than windows what you can delete
[16:51] <windbuntu> i only have 1 HD reiso and this is not a dual boot
[16:51] <abkarch> http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/7194/capturenqe.png
[16:51] <reisio> windbuntu: what's it telling you, exactly?
[16:52] <windbuntu> its says the disk is not or or not present (ubuntu telling me this then boom it goes to desktop shortly after)
[16:52] <stueng> abkarch, you can probably delete the one marked as free space but not the others
[16:52] <stueng> do it form ubuntu, it will make more sense
[16:52] <abkarch> k
[16:52] <windbuntu> ill reboot and try to write it down but it only says it for a couple seconds BRB reiso
[16:52] <reisio> stueng: you can delete any that don't have data you want on them, except for the first two (far left) which you'll probably want
[16:53] <stueng> reisio, so where do you imagine his ubuntu installation is ?
[16:53] <abkarch> reisio, liol i think i want those :D but ima go to ubuntu to check just to be sure, wouldnt want to delete anything accidentally
[16:53] <reisio> stueng: I don't imagine it is anywhere
[16:53] <abkarch> ...?
[16:53] <tbrown> I install gedit but when I type in sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list it says " Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options.:( Can some tell me if am doing this wrong...
[16:54] <abkarch> ima go with stueng on this one
[16:54] <stueng> good idea abk
[16:54] <Pici> tbrown: you should be using gksudo for graphical applications.
[16:54] <reisio> it's an idea, anyways :p
[16:54] <stueng> gtg... later
[16:55] <jmcs> hi is anyone else having trouble login in msn in empathy and pidgin?
[16:55] <lelouch> HeLLO all i have a question if i upgrad my system from 11.10 to 12.04 i will lose data in hard drive ?
[16:55] <tbrown> Pici: How would you say that ass a command " gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list "
[16:56] <lelouch> if  i upgrad my system from 11.10 to 12.04 i will lose data in hard drive ?
[16:56] <Pici> tbrown: yes.
[16:56] <asciicmdr> If you upgrade with upgrade manager, you will not loose anything.
[16:57] <lelouch> asciicmdr: just upgrad with update system
[16:57] <bakarat> *cough* dual screen issue *cough* (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11979654)
[16:57] <tbrown> pici: when I try to install it as sudo apt-get install gksudo. Or am I doing that wrong is it already on there
[16:57] <asciicmdr> lelouch: correct
[16:58] <Pici> tbrown: it should already be on your system.
[16:58] <windbuntu> i guess it only does it sometimes, it didnt say it that time, but when it does say it, it says : "the dev/sda (soemthing like that) is not runiing or is not present" ...it says someting very similar to that, then it just moves on and i always boot to ubuntu desktop.
[16:58] <windbuntu> running*
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> bakarat:  you could summarize the problem. ;)
[16:58] <lelouch> asciicmdr: thanks ;)
[16:58] <jardineworks> non liferay but driving me nuts XSLT question if anyone is up for it
[16:59] <michael__>  Wingma[]
[17:00] <jardineworks> my client, who is an absolute asshole by the way, has the stupidest XML output I have ever seen that I am trying to transform. Like it's epic. Anyway, I select a node at the path /ADI/Metadata/AMS -- that works. This node has two asstributes, Asset_Class and Asset_ID ...
[17:00] <bakarat> Dr_Willis, i'll try :) basically i have had a dual screen setup since at least 9.04, but it is dead in 12.04 (using both free and proprietary drivers). the card is an nvidia 8600gts, with the opensource driver i get a "fuzzy" second screen where the resolution seems way out of wack (even though xrandr claims it's ok), with the proprietary driver i get a black secondary screen. (screenshots taken on the system with both drivers look like a funct
[17:00] <bakarat> ioning dual screen setup)
[17:00] <windbuntu> so there must be a moment in time when ubuntu cannot sence my HD then it catched up and moves on...just an observation. i have been using ubuntu here and there (basics only) since 8.04 and i have never seen that, just wondered.
[17:00] <tbrown> Pici: I had to install Sudo apt-get install gksu
[17:00] <jardineworks> now, my select I assume means I have the AMS node. Does anyone know how I reference the attributes of the node I have?
[17:00] <BobMarley> can somebody give me the link to the source code of the linux kernel that initializes the BSP and the AP?
[17:00] <bakarat> Dr_Willis, i have tried using the screen on another pc or as standalone and it works great, so it's not a hardware problem (it hink)
[17:01] <bakarat> (the xrandr output is posted in the link if necessary)
[17:02] <wwd> guys i am trying to test read speed from my system.. i was thinking rsync'ing large files to /dev/null but rysnc says i can't use more than one file to a non-directory…. how would you test read speed on your system?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> wwd: sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[17:02] <ethek> using unity/ nautilus is there a way for the Move To feature in the right click menu to be customized... ie include Documents , Music and Pictures Folders
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> bakarat:  what kind of monitor?
[17:02] <tbrown> Am getting a Warning when I type in Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open diskplay: While typing in gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> ethek: you can use nautilus-scripts
[17:03] <ethek> hmm
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> tbrown:  you logged into X as a user?
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> tbrown: are you connected via SSH?
[17:03] <wwd> ActionParsnip: cool, will look into it
[17:03] <bakarat> Dr_Willis, it's a packard bell but i can't quite remember which version. I'd have to plug it in to check
[17:04] <bakarat> Dr_Willis, i'll plug it in and hope x doesn't crash (it can become quite unstable with the free driver)
[17:04] <tbrown> Dr_Willis: ActionParsnip: Do you mean as root or something. And I dont know what ssh is?
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> bakarat:  so its a old CRT?
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> tbrown:  how did you login>?
[17:04] <bakarat> Dr_Willis, no regular flat screen through HDMI (the other screen is using DVI)-
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> tbrown: are you sat and logged in to the same system as you are running the commands on?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> tbrown: nothing to do with root here:)
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> bakarat:  ive seen some nvidia sysems  requier both monitors plugged in when the system boots up
[17:05] <bakarat> Dr_Willis, i could give it another shot but i've reboot multiple times while fiddling with both free and nvidia drivers (with both screens plugged in)
[17:05] <bakarat> didn't seem to make much of a difference
[17:06] <bakarat> Dr_Willis, the second screen is identified as PKB 24" if that helps...
[17:06] <tbrown> Dr_Willis: when I started my system it said type in your user name and password so I did and I got login. And then I type in sudo su and type in the root password to make it root so???
[17:07] <bakarat> Dr_Willis, btw, i know that "fuzzy" is rather vague, but basically the letters are semi-bolded, slightly distorted, border thickness ranges from 0 to 2 pixels instead of a steady 1 pixel etc
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> tbrown: there is no root password, using sudo su   uses YOUR password, not roots
[17:07] <tbrown> ActionParsnip: I dont know what you meen while login to the same system I have one system and am login as one user I think it is the administrator user what ever I did on the setup installion:)
[17:07] <Pici> tbrown: This is a server install?
[17:07] <bakarat> Dr_Willis, also interestingly, the screen actually complains that it is not running in the "optimal resolution" which is 1920x1080 (though xrandr says it is)
[17:07] <windbuntu> "Disk Drive / not ready yet or not available"
[17:07] <windbuntu> and options to wait,skip or manually recover---thats what it says reiso!
[17:08] <tbrown> Pici: No it was a miniamle iso 12MB of 8.04?
[17:08] <Pici> tbrown: Fine, no graphical environment then.
[17:08] <tbrown> no
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> tbrown: thats why then, you have no gui to use gksudo with.
[17:09] <Pici> tbrown: Then you can't use a graphical editor like gedit, just use nano or vim or whatever you like to modify your sources.list.  sudo alone will work with those.
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> tbrown:  dont use sudo su. use sudo -s as needed for a root shell.
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> tbrown:  and theres no need to use sudo -s for a simple editing of a file
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> tbrown: I'd suggest considering a newer release
[17:09] <unRar> Hi
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> hi unRar
[17:10] <tbrown> Pici: what is the command for nano is it sudo nano /etc/ what ever the source is:)
[17:10] <Pici> tbrown: yes.
[17:10] <unperson> How do I change the icon used for an application in the launcher?
[17:11] <tbrown> Pici: Thanks
[17:11] <candery> hello, new to the linux community, just installed 12.04, i have multiple machines running in the house aswell, just curious on what uses could i put to my linux box, and possibly any tips on my future linux journey :)
[17:11] <unperson> I googled it but what I found seemed way too convoluted (involving gconf, etc.).  I have to believe that there's some easier way.
[17:12] <unperson> candery, Welcome.  Honestly, there are so many uses they can be put to it's a hard question to answer.
[17:12] <reisio> candery: take your pick
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> candery: you could use apt-cache to setup a local repo to speed up updates as well as speed up updates locally :)
[17:13] <reisio> candery: give it a bluetooth/wireless connection, hook it up to speakers and have it greet you when you walk in the door
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> candery:  if you have several ubuntu bxs you may want to set one up as a apt-cacher server to save on download bandwith.
[17:13] <unperson> candery, You can use a linux machine as a DVR (using e.g. myth TV), you can run a web server, you can...well, do almost anything.
[17:14] <Squarism> is there any way to free physical mem other than killing processes?
[17:14] <ksbalaji> Please help with mount problem. Unable to run any of system applications.
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> except watch netflix.... ;P
[17:14] <bakarat> Dr_Willis, do you have any other suggestion? otherwise i'll try rebooting again with both drivers (thanks for your help btw)
[17:14] <candery> wow so many options! lol
[17:14] <reisio> you could watch netflix, but it's not simple or cheap
[17:15] <ksbalaji> Cannot run synaptic, apt-get etc.
[17:15] <reisio> plenty of netflix alternatives that are, though
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> bakarat:  other day guy was fighting with nvidia dual monitors.. he swaped them.. and they started working. :) go figure. I never have had any issued with dual moniutors
[17:16] <reisio> you can definitely finesse nvidia-settings
[17:16] <reisio> but you can also use it as designed :p
[17:17] <bakarat> Dr_Willis, me neither until 12.04. i read that the "old" nvidia driver no longer works with the new xorg (or something) and the new nvidia driver does not support older models, 8xxx should still be supported though. i would switch the monitors but only one of them has a hdmi input :(
[17:17] <ksbalaji> My top panel shows application -no dropdown menu. Places - ok. System = only help and support, about Gnome and about Ubuntu.
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> bakarat:  not really tried it on any older machines. so cant really say
[17:17] <bakarat> these days, is nvidia or amd a better investment (for work/dual monitor etc, not for gaming)?
[17:17] <bakarat> ati*
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> id avoid ati
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> intel can work well for normal work. ;0
[17:18] <bakarat> this may sound stupid but can you actually buy standalone intel cards? or is it all built in?
[17:18] <candery> is there anything i can do to use my linux box to add security to my other machines?
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> bakarat:  nonot seen any stand alone intel. there was rumors of them  a year or so ago.. but never seen any
[17:18] <bakarat> candery, you could set it up as a firewall...if you're adventurous enough
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> candery:  most likely - not needed  :)
[17:19] <intok> Anyone know why DeVeDe will transcode anything I like even 1920x1080 H.264 video to MPEG2 or Divx MPEG4 just fine, but both Artista and Transmagedon crash trying to transcode anything?
[17:19] <candery> bakarat:, Dr_Willis : my other machines are windows, but okay hehe
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> intok:  how about winff?
[17:19] <bakarat> candery, doesn't matter what the other machines run in the firewall setup
[17:20] <intok> Dr_Willis never heard of it
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> arista has been working very well for me - been plaing with it all week
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> !info winff
[17:20] <candery> bakarat: if i make my linux box into a firewall, can i still use it or will it only be used for a firewall
[17:20] <bakarat> Dr_Willis, can't imagine it'll be easy to find a mobo (with built-in intel) that still works for my old pc
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> wonder what tools devede use.
[17:21] <bakarat> candery, depends how you set it up, you could likely still use it as a regular machine
[17:21] <bakarat> candery, but i think setting it up as a firewall is overkill, your router should be good enough
[17:21] <bakarat> for regular home use anyway
[17:21] <candery> bakarat: okay, makes sense.
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> dlna video server via ushare, plex, or other tools = is a handy use for Linux ;)
[17:22] <gabriel_> hallo
[17:22] <tbrown> Man am felling wered with this 5 hr energy man it kind of kicking my ass:)
[17:22] <ksbalaji> mount error :http://pastebin.com/QrdAV1Mm please help.
[17:23] <bakarat> candery, perhaps the best thing for the server is something like a file server, use samba to share with windows pcs
[17:23] <gabriel_> do you know how to install lexmark z617 on xubuntu?
[17:23] <bakarat> candery, it's nice to be able to stream a movie from anywhere in your house whether it be on your main media center, laptop or cellphone (in my experience anyway :))
[17:23] <asciicmdr> tbrown: chase it with a redbull.
[17:24] <candery> bakarat: hmm that sounds interesting.
[17:24] <bakarat> candery, in my setup all my devices use linux & sftp to mount the central file server files, but samba should do the trick i assume
[17:25] <bakarat> was there a magic sysrq combination to kill x?
[17:25] <eynetro> i heard that ubuntu is going to be making a smart phone OS
[17:26] <bakarat> eynetro, one can hope
[17:26] <Jordan_U> bakarat: alt+sysrk+K will kill whatever is running on the current tty.
[17:26] <bakarat> Jordan_U, ah sweet, thanks :)
[17:26] <Jordan_U> bakarat: You're welcome :)
[17:27] <eynetro> that would be pretty sweet though
[17:28] <ksbalaji> How do I get back my applications dropdown menu please?
[17:28] <bakarat> ksbalaji, like gnome 2 you mean?
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> !notunity| ksbalaji
[17:28] <tbrown> I got a message while installing LXDE: Configuring uswsusp  The swap file or partition that was found in uswusp's configuration file is not active. In most caes this means usersspace software susspend will not work for you and you will need to choose (or let uswsusp choose) another swap space. In some corner cases however, this can be what you want. Continue without a valid swap space? Yes Or No
[17:28]  * Dr_Willis is not sure why ksbalaji  pastebind his mount info
[17:29] <bakarat> ksbalaji, in regular gnome 3 (not unity), this extension looks marvelous: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/327/axe-menu/
[17:30] <ksbalaji> bakarat, I do not get u. I am unable to open synaptic. some files are not mounted I feel. Dr_Willis some files not mounted..
[17:30] <tbrown> I got a message while installing LXDE: Configuring uswsusp  The swap file or partition that was found in uswusp's configuration file is not active. In most caes this means usersspace software susspend will not work for you and you will need to choose (or let uswsusp choose) another swap space. In some corner cases however, this can be what you want. Continue without a valid swap space? Yes Or No
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> !repeat| tbrown
[17:33] <asciicmdr> tbrown: does your system have a swap filesystem?
[17:33] <ksbalaji> bakarat, Dr_Willis, mine is LTS 10.4 - something went wrong and I am unable to use update etc. I feel some files have not been mounted. How to check please?
[17:34] <tbrown> asciicmdr: I dont know what that is. Is it do with the hard drive or something. Because I dont think I made one in the future of the installion?
[17:35] <TRANEX> HI PEOPLE
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> caps
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji:  you mount filesystems..
[17:37] <tbrown> when I type in startlxde it not doing anything it not even loading or giving me a error:( I think it is frozen or something. Can Someone tell me if I did something wrong. I installed the interface meaning the lxde.
[17:37] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis, when I try to open synaptic, I get error notification: E: Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - open (2: No such file or directory)E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[17:38] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis, How to find what has not been mounted on boot up? How to mount the left things please?
[17:38] <ozpy> Hi. Does anybody knows if  with the new UEFI will affect Ubuntu? Will Ubuntu capitulate just like Fedora?
[17:39] <MaynardWaters> I am trying to using the usb-creator-gtk to make a persistent usb , I have the iso loaded and the usb drive selected, but the bottom part continues to be greyed out, any suggestions how to remedy?
[17:40] <Jordan_U> ozpy: This channel is for technical support, not speculation on future descisions. Try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[17:40] <ozpy> Thanks
[17:40] <miro-server_> dfgb
[17:40] <Jordan_U> ozpy: You're welcome.
[17:40] <TRANEX> how are you?
[17:41] <Jordan_U> TRANEX: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[17:41] <ksbalaji> I tried to repair broken packages. The app quit midway. I do not know what has gone wrong.
[17:42] <Bulletrulz> i need help
[17:42] <Bulletrulz> i wanna play minecraft
[17:42] <reisio> agreed, you need "help" :p
[17:42] <Bulletrulz> i cannt open it
[17:42] <reisio> what happens when you try to?
[17:42] <Bulletrulz> lol xD\
[17:43] <Bulletrulz> nothing at all
[17:43] <Jordan_U> MaynardWaters: What filesystem is the partition on the USB drive?
[17:43] <Bulletrulz> it does not open ?
[17:43] <reisio> Bulletrulz: try running it from a terminal
[17:43] <Bulletrulz> resio how?
[17:44] <Jordan_U> MaynardWaters: Also note that a "persistant" LiveUSB is not the same as a real install, and among other things can't be upgraded properly. If you have the space available I would recommend doing a normal install to the USB if you plan to use it as a normal system.
[17:44] <reisio> Bulletrulz: CTRL+ALT+t
[17:44] <reisio> Bulletrulz: then type 'minecraft' and hit enter
[17:44] <Bulletrulz> k
[17:44] <reisio> Bulletrulz: or dpkg -L minecraft | grep -i bin to get an alternative executable name
[17:44] <tbrown> My terminal is not opening in a windows or nothing. What is going on:(
[17:45] <reisio> tbrown: hrmm?
[17:45] <MaynardWaters> Jordan_U: I formatted in ext4
[17:46] <tbrown> reisio: I installed the LXDE and the interface is working. But it has a button for the terminal and I click it and nothing:(
[17:46] <Bulletrulz> brandon@ubuntu:~$ /home/brandon/minecraft.jar
[17:46] <Bulletrulz> bash: /home/brandon/minecraft.jar: Permission denied
[17:46] <Jordan_U> MaynardWaters: I don't think that USB Creator supports ext4, though you could set something up manually (or switch to FAT32).
[17:46] <smw_> how do I mount sftp shares in gnome?
[17:46] <Bulletrulz> i get that
[17:46] <smw_> I used to know how... in an old ubuntu
[17:46] <MaynardWaters> Jordan_U: I would also like to do the normal install, I have teh 11.04-1386.iso, and the correct device, but it just .... ooo no ext4
[17:47] <Jordan_U> MaynardWaters: Why are you installing 11.04 rather than 12.04 LTS?
[17:47] <reisio> tbrown: install lxterminal from universe
[17:47] <MaynardWaters> smw_: there is usually a connect to server under one of the drop down menus that has a windows shareand sftp option
[17:47] <smw_> Myrtti, how about on gnome-shell?
[17:48] <MaynardWaters> Jordan_U: in my experience 11.04 is less resurce intensive
[17:48] <WarOfTheNerd> MaynardWaters, O_o
[17:48] <smw_> MaynardWaters, nm, I figured it out
[17:48] <WarOfTheNerd> MaynardWaters, How do you guess that 11.04 is less resource intensive?
[17:48] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis, May be I try my luck another time. Till then no updates, no system utilities etc!
[17:48] <tbrown> reisio: I dont have the store I cant get the brower to work eather. Do you want me to restart the computer and try again:(
[17:49] <Jordan_U> MaynardWaters: Using old versions of software to get less resource usage is a little silly when you're using GNU/Linux. Have you tried LUbuntu or Xubuntu?
[17:49] <reisio> tbrown: first I want you to stop impersonating a little frowning girl
[17:49] <Bulletrulz> hmmmm
[17:49] <reisio> tbrown: the browser doesn't work, or the network doesn't?
[17:49] <Bulletrulz> should i use sunjdk to play minecraft
[17:49] <MaynardWaters> Jordan_U: I have not, if you recommend those then I will give them a try
[17:49] <reisio> Bulletrulz: you should use icedtea if you can help it
[17:49] <WarOfTheNerd> Bulletrulz, no
[17:49] <WarOfTheNerd> Bulletrulz, look on the Minecraft website dude
[17:49] <WarOfTheNerd> Bulletrulz, you're not running it the way you're meant to based on what the developer even says
[17:50] <Bulletrulz> ok idk what im supposed to do
[17:50] <MaynardWaters> Jordan_U: thanks a bunch, i was pounding my head against the ext4 for a while
[17:50] <Bulletrulz> sund jdk lets me run it on mint
[17:50] <reisio> Bulletrulz: did you run it from a terminal yet?
[17:50] <Bulletrulz> im trying icedtea but its not working
[17:51] <Bulletrulz> reisio minecraft does not work
[17:51] <reisio> Bulletrulz: you said
[17:51] <reisio> Bulletrulz: did you run it from a terminal yet?
[17:51] <WarOfTheNerd> MaynardWaters, try the following:  java -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[17:51] <Bulletrulz> it comes in a .jar file
[17:51] <Bulletrulz> yes
[17:51] <WarOfTheNerd> err sorry
[17:51] <reisio> Bulletrulz: ah
[17:51] <WarOfTheNerd> Bulletrulz* try java -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[17:51] <WarOfTheNerd> then it will execute properly
[17:52] <Bulletrulz> warofthenerd Error: Could not find or load main class net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[17:53] <WarOfTheNerd> Bulletrulz, try java Minecraft.jar on its own
[17:53] <Bulletrulz> ok
[17:53] <eynetro> when people talk about adding language support does it just mean changing the layout of the keyboard so they can write in their given script of choice or does it mean it changes the language displayed?
[17:53] <Bulletrulz> nothing loads UP!
[17:54] <Bulletrulz> i guess ill try sunjdk
[17:54] <WarOfTheNerd> Bulletrulz, one last try:  chmod 755 Minecraft.jar
[17:54] <WarOfTheNerd> Bulletrulz, then ./Minecraft.jar will execute
[17:54] <Bulletrulz> hmmmmmm
[17:55] <WarOfTheNerd> The thing is, Notch changed the minecraft launcher.  The one I used at the time Minecraft first came out as Beta worked just fine on OpenJDK JRE
[17:55] <Bulletrulz> MOPE
[17:55] <Bulletrulz> nope
[17:55] <Luca> Hello. I tried the "Install Ubuntu alongside W7" option but at first it only detected the USB HDD, when I disconnected that, and restarted install it detected the internal HDD, but it didn't let me move the "slider", then I selected to exit/quit and it came up with "that ther was an internal error" with ubiquity or sth
[17:56] <bieb> I have a print issue.. I am using Crossover office to provide MS Office to students (required from higher-ups).. office works fine.. but when I try to print from ms-office (word, excel and powerpoint) it prints a blank page, then an error page... Error: undefinedresult   Offending Command: awidthshow   STACK: 0 0 32 0 0. Printing uses wineps. but printing from Libre works fine..
[17:57] <Bulletrulz> CRAP!\
[17:57] <Bulletrulz> i wanna plat minecraft
[17:57] <windbuntu> try xbox
[17:57] <WarOfTheNerd> Bulletrulz, what does it say when you try to run it?
[17:58] <Bulletrulz> it wont start how to install sun jdk
[17:58] <asciicmdr> Bulletrulz: try this : java -jar Minecraft.jar
[17:58] <n-iCe> hi, anyone with a mac product? iphone ipod ipaD? wondering is there is a way to upgrade ios on those decives using linux
[17:58] <WarOfTheNerd> asciicmdr, my bad.. forgot about that :$
[17:58] <asciicmdr> I am using openjdk and minecraft server runs like a champ.
[17:59] <reisio> n-iCe: none that wouldn't be far outside the scope of this channel
[17:59] <reisio> try #macosx
[18:00] <Bulletrulz> yay asiiccii it worked
[18:04] <guest2010> Hello, my mouse pad has stopped working in ubuntu
[18:04] <guest2010> though it works in windows
[18:04] <n-iCe> guest2010: stops, when
[18:04] <guest2010> and in  my previous backup ubuntu versions
[18:05] <xangua> guest2010: did you disable it with your function key¿
[18:05] <guest2010> xangua:  its workin now thanks
[18:06] <j_elly> ubuntu 11.04: no video signal on extern monitor via hdmi, no hardware - problem with hdmi - works with win 7
[18:07] <j_elly> hardware is asus notebook; shows blank screen if extern monitor is connected via hdmi; no signal to extern monitor
[18:08] <j_elly> any experiences with that?
[18:10] <MaynardWaters> j_elly: checked bios?
[18:10] <j_elly> yes - no bios switch for nvidia/intel
[18:13] <j_elly> although i didnt change anything in bios, maybe driver problem? hdmi-connection tomonitor was ok with fresh installation of ubuntu 11.04 from dvd, changed after recent update i think
[18:14] <jamesbond_> hi dear friends
[18:14] <j_elly> dont know exactly when bec using ubuntu 11.04 since mid-2011
[18:14] <halakar> hey guise
[18:14] <halakar> hey guise.  I want to slap Windows 8 on my rig, but I already have ubuntu installed.  Anything I need to do?  I heard Windows 8 plays nicely with other OSes and that it'll have an entry in the boot loader for Ubuntu.
[18:14] <j_elly> hi mr bond how is your gold-finger?
[18:15] <jamesbond_> im having problems to play pokerstars on Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS some one can help me how to fix
[18:15] <Pici> halakar: You'll need to reinstall grub after installing windows.  Normally Windows will overwrite the bootloader, and grub will not automatically detect it until you do the reinstall anyway.
[18:15] <Pici> halakar: see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[18:16] <j_elly> as long as you dont slap girls you can slap win8 with ubuntu as dualboor
[18:16] <j_elly> dualboot
[18:16] <jamesbond_> im having problems to play pokerstars on Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS some one can help me how to fix
[18:16] <j_elly> pokerstars is a browser game?
[18:16] <jamesbond_> no
[18:16] <nixbox> i am using network namespaces using the "unshare -n" command, but how do I access the information about the interfaces created in a different network namespace? is there a way to "attach" to that network namespace? In other words is there a way to create a process that belongs to the tree of a specific process?
[18:17] <jamesbond_> old ubuntu version i have install the wine than pokerstars
[18:17] <jamesbond_> and it works perfect
[18:18] <jamesbond_> now i instal and when i try to run doesnt run
[18:19] <jamesbond_> j_elly can you help me please
[18:20] <Jordan_U> MaynardWaters: I'm currently running LUbuntu with no noticable latency for the tasks I do (web browsing and working with the terminal) on a laptop with a Pentium M, integrated Intel graphics, and 100 MiB of RAM. If you're looking for a light but modern system, LUbuntu is great.
[18:21] <Jordan_U> MaynardWaters: (That's LUbuntu 12.04).
[18:21] <reisio> 100, sheesh
[18:21] <j_elly> i'm sorry no, i don't have wine installed either nor playing games with ubuntu, using win7 on dualboot system instead
[18:21] <Jordan_U> !wine | jamesbond_
[18:21] <reisio> Wine is, anyways
[18:22] <nixbox> Jordan_U: 100M of RAM, wow
[18:25] <Jordan_U> MaynardWaters: nixbox: reisio: OK, I made a huge mistake and misread "1001" as "101" in free -m. It's 1 GiB on the machine I'm currently working with. I have Used LUbuntu on a machine that really had 128 MiB of RAM though.
[18:26] <numberto1> ubuntu crashes everytime I start skype or skypetab. Ubuntu 12.04
[18:26] <aondmm> dobry vecer
[18:26] <reisio> Jordan_U: okay :)
[18:26] <j_elly> thats a lot of ra, how you fill that with data?
[18:26] <j_elly> ram sorry
[18:26] <numberto1> aondmm: ubuntu-ru
[18:27] <reisio> 1GB still isn't "a lot" and LXDE is nice regardless
[18:27] <reisio> but '100mb' definitely made me wonder :p
[18:27] <asciicmdr> heh, nice
[18:27] <L3top> "a lot" is a relative term.
[18:28] <nixbox> Jordan_U: happens :)
[18:28] <j_elly> do you know any term that is not relative anyway?
[18:28] <numberto1> anybody had problem with skype here?
[18:28] <j_elly> no i do not skype so no problem
[18:29] <j_elly> :)
[18:29] <halakar> j_elly, so you're sayin' i just slap win8 on there and it'll config it's bootloader with Ubuntu as a choice, ya ?
[18:30] <j_elly> i dont know, installed ubuntu after win7 has been already on partition and grub did very well in writing bootconfig for ubuntu and win so why i should not work with win 8 if you do like it has been said befor - installing grub after win 8
[18:31] <j_elly> i = it sorry
[18:31] <Jordan_U> halakar: Follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot to restore GRUB after Windows clobbers it.
[18:32] <j_elly> so that should be fin with win8 also
[18:33] <j_elly> but i still wonder how you slap win8? maybe thats the right threatment for a microsoft product but how you do that?
[18:33] <j_elly> :)
[18:40] <rolandb> am i safe to assume that adding a lubuntu install to a USB stick just requires a seperate partition and a GRUB edit?
[18:41] <reisio> sepArate
[18:41] <reisio> rolandb: I wouldn't be surprised if you can dd it like other Ubuntu images
[18:41] <bolosaur> Hello.
[18:41] <bolosaur> export SDL_VIDEO_X11_DGAMOUSE=0
[18:41] <bolosaur> Can someone please explain what this does?
[18:42] <j_elly> but youre not safe anyway
[18:42] <j_elly> if it requires it or not :)
[18:46] <rolandb> reisio, dd or add?
[18:46] <bolosaur> Is it possible to create an executable file that - when I double-click it - will execute a terminal command?
[18:46] <bolosaur> so i can place it on my desktop
[18:46] <reisio> rolandb: dd
[18:47] <Guest53670> Wilky
[18:47] <escott> bolosaur, just create a script that calls to gnome-terminal
[18:47] <j_elly> 	export SDL_VIDEO_X11_DGAMOUSE=0
[18:48] <bolosaur> gnome-terminal is not in the list of associated apps
[18:49] <Guest53670> What's up for ubuntu 10.04?
[18:49] <reisio> dunno, what's up
[18:49] <schultza>  what's the package for jdk 6?
[18:50] <bolosaur> OK escott I managed to associate my .sh file with the terminal
[18:50] <domedagen> Is my driver not installed if it can't be found with lsmod?
[18:50] <bolosaur> but when i double-click it it just opens a regular terminal window
[18:50] <bolosaur> it doesn't actually execute the script
[18:50] <tuxgeek> gnome shell ROCKS!
[18:51] <delac> bolosaur: you dont have to do the association. just mark it as executable in the permissions tab
[18:51] <j_elly> typing export SDL_VIDEO_X11_DGAMOUSE=0 before starting the game will disable hardware dga mouse
[18:51] <Guest53670> eclipse problem
[18:51] <Bulletrulz> help i have a problem when i try to start minecraft
[18:52] <domedagen> Bulletrulz: What is happening?
[18:52] <Bulletrulz> dom i run it from the terminal and press enter game and it just stays black screen
[18:52] <ubuntu_64bit> hi alll
[18:53] <Guest53670> hi
[18:54] <bolosaur> delac: That worked, thanks
[18:54] <domedagen> Bulletrulz: What if you launch it in GUI?
[18:54] <ubuntu_64bit> Guest53670, helllooo
[18:54] <Bulletrulz> i think it is openjdks fault
[18:54] <bolosaur> However, when I "execute" it, it completely ignores the contents of the script
[18:54] <bolosaur> but if i do
[18:54] <bolosaur> bash scriptname.sh from within a terminal
[18:54] <bolosaur> it registers it
[18:54] <bolosaur> how can that be?
[18:54] <FloodBot1> bolosaur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:54] <Guest53670> hi can u hjelp
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: if you mark the file as executable, you can just run it as is, no need for the extra 'bash' word to run it
[18:55] <ubuntu_64bit> Guest53670, yes i need a help
[18:55] <delac> bolosaur: ignores? does the script start with #!/bin/sh
[18:55] <domedagen> Guest53670: What is wrong?
[18:55] <bolosaur> delac: No
[18:55] <samer> hello all, where i can ask for help about postfix ?
[18:55] <bolosaur> it starts with #!/bin/bash
[18:55] <delac> bolosaur: put that as the first line
[18:55] <Bulletrulz> god damn i dont wanna download another one
[18:55] <ubuntu_64bit> Guest53670, can we have a private talk
[18:55] <delac> bolosaur: oh
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: is the file marked as executable?
[18:55] <delac> bolosaur: so it should work...
[18:55] <Guest53670> a bunch of problems
[18:56] <domedagen> Bulletrulz: By launching it from GUI I can rule out some PEBCAK
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Guest53670: ask and the channel will reply if it can
[18:56] <bolosaur> delac: That didn't work. ActionParsnip: Yes, that's what I've done.
[18:56] <ubuntu_64bit> guest via skype so that i will be showing you you how the problem look like
[18:56] <bolosaur> To give you guys an idea of what I'm trying to do, I'm trying to fix a mouse cursor error when opening DOSbox. This can be done by running a shell script
[18:56] <ubuntu_64bit> Guest53670,  via skype so that i will be showing you you how the problem look like
[18:56] <bolosaur> so i want to be able to execute this script, and then automatically dosbox
[18:56] <Praxi> hmm does gotomeeting not work on firefox/chromium on ubuntu or do I have something else going on?
[18:56] <root__> Is it possible to encrypt an ext4 partition with lots of data on it already?
[18:56] <bolosaur> however, if i make the script "executable", it just opens dosbox without reading the line that fixes the cursor problem
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: then add dosbox to the bottom of the script....
[18:56] <bolosaur> ActionParsnip: I did.
[18:57] <Guest53670> first i cant how's the chat goes on?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: can you pastebin the script please
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest53670: that's not english
[18:57] <bolosaur> the script now literally reads 1) #!/bin/sh 2) export SDL_VIDEO_X11_DGAMOUSE=0 3) dosbox
[18:57] <bolosaur> Where 1), 2) and 3) are the lines.
[18:58] <ubuntu_64bit> Guest53670,  are  u new to this
[18:58] <bolosaur> If I run the script with "bash scriptname.sh", it works. If I make the script executable and try to run it by double-clicking on it, it opens dosbox but ignores line #2
[18:58] <Guest53670> yes
[18:58] <ubuntu_64bit> Guest53670,  let go to skype
[18:59] <Guest53670> didoskype5
[18:59] <ubuntu_64bit> Guest53670, ok minee its kayaman  kaya
[18:59] <escott> bolosaur, /bin/sh is /bin/dash you might want /bin/bash, but i dont see any specific bashisms there
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: tried adding the variable in ~/.bashrc?
[19:00] <samer> hello all, where i can ask for help about postfix ?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: yes, change line 1 to #!/bin/bash
[19:00] <Guest53670> kaya man
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> samer: ask away, the channel will reply if it can
[19:01] <ubuntu_64bit> Guest53670, yes man ready am now online
[19:01] <bolosaur> ActionParsnip: That's what I originally had before escott told me to change it to sh
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: it's even here: http://lovehateubuntu.blogspot.co.uk/2008/04/dosbox-on-ubuntu.html
[19:01] <tabularasa> I've got a Wyse T50 that runs Embedded Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS.  I'm trying to use wlx.ini file to update its firmware and I can't figure it out.  I point it to FirmwareServer=http:x.x.x.x and it won't pick up the firmware... any tips?
[19:01] <samer> well i download and setup postfix, also i setup squirrmail and i can send mail to gmail as example but receive mail not working, any one can help me ?
[19:01] <bolosaur> ActionParsnip: Where do you want me to add that variable?
[19:01] <bolosaur> ~/.bashrc
[19:01] <bolosaur> or whatever
[19:01] <bolosaur> ActionParsnip: That's where I found the script.
[19:02] <bolosaur> And that's what I originally had.
[19:02] <Guest53670> pseudo on skype
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: you could, the script will mean it only applies to the script running
[19:02] <escott> bolosaur, what is dosbox? is it a gui?
[19:03] <j_elly> emulator for running dos games
[19:03] <fraterm> escott, x86 emulator I think.
[19:03] <samer> any one can help me to setup postfix to receive emails :S
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> escott: indeed, its an X app
[19:03] <ubuntu_64bit> Guest53670, make a call
[19:03] <escott> ActionParsnip, i wonder if he would be missing a $DISPLAY variable?
[19:03] <bolosaur> escott: It's a DOS emulator.
[19:04] <delac> bolosaur: does the script work if you run it (from terminal) with sh filename.sh or ./filename.sh ?
[19:04] <ubuntu_64bit> Guest53670, are u there
[19:04] <tabularasa> wlx.ini... anyone?
[19:04] <bolosaur> OK guys let me brief you. The script I found on that page ( http://lovehateubuntu.blogspot.co.uk/2008/04/dosbox-on-ubuntu.html ) works if I run it from within an already open terminal by using "bash dosbox.sh". If I try to execute it however from within Ubuntu however, it does open DOSbox, but the mouse cursor problem still remains, meaning that the script has failed to read line #2 which is what
[19:04] <bolosaur> fixes the cursor in the first case.
[19:05] <bolosaur> If I try to run it as an executable from within Ubuntu's desktop environment however*
[19:05] <bolosaur> delac: Yes it does.
[19:06] <bolosaur> Just as if I did "bash filename.sh"
[19:06] <ubuntu_64bit> Guest53670,  are u  there man
[19:06] <bolosaur> But again, if I try to run it by double-clicking it it won't fix my cursor problem.
[19:06] <delac> bolosaur: when you ran it from desktop, did you choose "run" or "run in terminal"?
[19:06] <bolosaur> delac: I've tried both - neither works.
[19:07] <ubuntu_64bit> Guest53670, come on
[19:07] <escott> bolosaur, you could try not exporting the variable and instead prefixing the execution: on one line "WHATEVER=0 dosbox"
[19:07] <WarOfTheNerd> hey guys, is there a package which auto builds NVIDIA kernel modules for kernels on boot?
[19:07] <WarOfTheNerd> I plan to patch the Ubuntu kernel to have SKAS3 support for User Mode Linux (if possible)
[19:08] <bolosaur> Ok, I realized that this is not an Ubuntu problem.
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> WarOfTheNerd: you could make a dkms script for it
[19:08] <bolosaur> Apparently, MOVING the cursor while launching dosbox fixes the cursor problem
[19:08] <bolosaur> while letting it be still causes it to occur
[19:08] <bolosaur> I must simply have done different mouse movements when doing differnet types of testing
[19:09] <bolosaur> Sorry about wasting your time.
[19:09] <bolosaur> but thanks for helping
[19:09] <asciicmdr> bolosaur: that is very odd.
[19:09] <darkhalo117> Any way I can change the driver ubuntu uses for my video card when I boot to a live disk?
[19:10] <skunk> how do we file a bug in the Ubuntu software centre? the smooth scrolling is crooked as heck!
[19:10] <j_elly> bolosaur: maybe youre wasting your time, hadn't time anyway
[19:10] <bolosaur> Ugh
[19:11] <rolandb> whats a good size for a /boot partition?
[19:11] <bolosaur> If I create a link to my script
[19:11] <bolosaur> then it once again doesnt work
[19:11] <bolosaur> but if i run it within the same location as dosbox
[19:11] <bolosaur> then it works
[19:11] <bolosaur> ugh im sick of this :/
[19:12] <j_elly> so what are you using dosbox for? monkey island?
[19:12] <escott> rolandb, a few hundred megs will fill up every 6 months or so with kernels and then you have to remove the old ones
[19:12] <bolosaur> Games and qbasic
[19:12] <bolosaur> but i guess linux isnt suited for simple tasks
[19:12] <bolosaur> so ill run windows or something instead
[19:12] <marc> test
[19:12] <marc> sry
[19:13] <asciicmdr> bolosaur: what is the variable you are using to fix the cursor issue?
[19:13] <j_elly> maybe it depends on the user
[19:14] <j_elly> how suited it is
[19:16] <bolosaur> asciicmdr: http://lovehateubuntu.blogspot.co.uk/2008/04/dosbox-on-ubuntu.html
[19:16] <elijah> What is latest stable for Chromium on Ubuntu? I am at 18 but I thought 19 was out.
[19:16] <bolosaur> export SDL_VIDEO_X11_DGAMOUSE=0
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: did you try the bashrc file?
[19:16] <asciicmdr> bolosaur: kk, jsec.
[19:16] <elijah> When I use the inspector and try to add a new CSS style to test I right click and get a very small, too small context menu where it would normally say add new rule. I want to upgrade to latest stable and hope it fixes it
[19:16] <omerta> hi all
[19:16] <j_elly> hi
[19:16] <elijah> I have done all the updates but am still at 18. What version of Chromium are you guys at?
[19:16] <schultza> Im adding a udev rule to precise, but i have instructions for Gusty/Hardy, Dapper, Karmic, Lucid, and Maverick.. which one should i follow?
[19:17] <bolosaur> ActionParsnip: What?
[19:17] <schultza> nevermind, i think i understand it by looking at other files
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: add the export command to ~/.bashrc
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: then change your script to use bash, not sh
[19:19] <bolosaur> ActionParsnip: I don't know what that is. I'm new to Linux, sorry.
[19:19] <j_elly> chrome has been updated already to 19, regarding http://google-chrome-browser.com/tags/google-chrome-19
[19:19] <bolosaur> You want me to just edit ~/.bashrc?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: echo "export SDL_VIDEO_X11_DGAMOUSE=0" | tee ~/.bashrc
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> ooops
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> wait
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: echo "export SDL_VIDEO_X11_DGAMOUSE=0" | tee -a  ~/.bashrc
[19:20] <OccupyDemonoid> Hello, I just bought a vpn with Ubuntu on it. How could I remote into it  while displaying the graphical desktop.
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: will add the line to the file, then run: source ~/.bashrc      and run dosbox
[19:20] <bolosaur> ActionParsnip: OK it echoed that line
[19:20] <bolosaur> now what?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: source ~/.bashrc      and then run dosbox
[19:21] <bolosaur> ActionParsnip: OK that seems to work
[19:21] <bolosaur> how can I automate that?
[19:22] <delac> bolosaur: it is now automated
[19:23] <delac> bolosaur: you added the export SOMETHING to bashrc file on your home dir and now it runs every time you log in
[19:23] <delac> bolosaur: so it is automatic
[19:23] <delac> bolosaur: if you ever need to get rid of it, just open the bashrc and remove the expot SOMETHING line
[19:24] <bolosaur> Okay
[19:24] <bolosaur> So wait
[19:24] <bolosaur> every time I run Dosbox now, it's going to run that script?
[19:24] <delac> bolosaur: not dosbox, but log in to your desktop
[19:25] <ironhalik> Hmm, can I get dev builds of chromium? Or are dev channels chrome-only?
[19:25] <delac> bolosaur: when you put some script in bashrc, it will run at the login
[19:26] <delac> bolosaur: in this case it just sets up that SDL_VIDEO_X11_DGAMOUSE=0 variable
[19:26] <bolosaur> ahhhhh
[19:26] <bolosaur> gotcha
[19:26] <bolosaur> ok
[19:26] <bolosaur> lemme test it :D
[19:26] <FloodBot1> bolosaur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:26] <j_elly> https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/dev
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> bolosaur: all better?
[19:27] <ironhalik> j_elly: sadly, its not maintained anymore - version 18 is the current stable release
[19:27] <bacilla> Hello, is there any way to make Network Manager run a script once connected to a vpn?
[19:28] <j_elly> ok, didn't know
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> bacilla: http://sysadminsjourney.com/content/2008/12/18/use-networkmanager-launch-scripts-based-network-location/
[19:29] <bacilla> Thanks, ActionParsnip.
[19:30] <byerley> Hi, how do I get just a shell (no X) from the 12.04 login screen?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> byerley: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and log in there
[19:31] <|cfh|> ctrl alt f7 to get back to x
[19:31] <byerley> ActionParsnip: can't figure out how to do that with Virtualbox and a mac keyboard =/
[19:32] <reisio> byerley: chvt
[19:33] <byerley> reisio: don't think I follow
[19:33] <reisio> it's a command, can be useful in such situations
[19:33]  * reisio takes off for a bit
[19:36] <tbrown> I have a problem. I can't get the terminal to work on my lxde enterface. I dont know what is wrong with it because I should be able to use it right???
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> tbrown  what happens when you try?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> tbrown: press CTRL+ALT+T   and it will run
[19:38] <Polah> Would anyone happen to know if there is a gnome shell extension to remove the bottom message tray?
[19:38] <tbrown> MonkeyDust: ActionParsnip: When I try the shortcuts or try to click the icon on the taskbar it just does nothing. Like the icon or the shortcut is broken:(
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> tbrown: what about from the lxmenu?
[19:39] <bolosaur> ActionParsnip: didn't work
[19:39] <bolosaur> but
[19:39] <bolosaur> for all i know it could be dosbox
[19:39] <bolosaur> man
[19:39] <bolosaur> im tired of dealing with this
[19:39] <bolosaur> im just gonna call it quits
[19:39] <bolosaur> thanks for your help though guys
[19:39] <FloodBot1> bolosaur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:39] <alexsn> guys doesn't /etc/modprobe.d folder not used on boot
[19:39] <alexsn> I need to pass options to a module
[19:39] <alexsn> ?
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> bolosaur  what's dosbox?
[19:39] <Borillion> adding the snd-hda-intel  stuff sound to my  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  removes my nvida hdmi outpit
[19:39] <bolosaur> MonkeyDust: a dos emu
[19:40] <Borillion> anyone know how to fix it?
[19:40] <Eagleman> How do i set this ( iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE ) static ( so it remains in the iptable after a reboot )
[19:40] <tbrown> ActionParnip: The only thing that is shows is Graphics: Settings: System Tools: Accessories: Run: and Logout in the System Tools There nothing on terminal no icon or anything>>
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> tbrown: if you use terminal a lot, install guake, it will hide and show on keypress
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> !info dosbox
[19:41] <alexsn> I've added a new file to /etc/modprobe.d called netdevice.conf and appended the following 'options e1000 TxDescriptors=4096,4096 RxDescriptors=4096,4096'
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> bolosaur  what's with dosbox?
[19:41] <alexsn> on boot those options are not used
[19:41] <bolosaur> MonkeyDust: Cursor doesn't work right.
[19:41] <alexsn> if I run modprobe -r e1000; modprobe e1000 it is used
[19:41] <llutz> Eagleman: use iptable-save and iptables-restore in short scripts /etc/network/if-up.d   if-down.d
[19:42] <tbrown> ActionParsnip: I dont have access to the Ubuntu Store. I download the Envirment of LXDE and there is nothing on here that will go to the web the web application does not even start up it broken two:(
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: if you add a command in /etc/rc.local  above the exit 0 line, it will run
[19:42] <Xix19> I'm trying to re-encode an .mp4 video into a .webm video using ffmpeg, but this tutorial doesn't seem to work quite right - http://maketecheasier.com/encode-webm-videos-for-youtube-in-linux/2011/01/26
[19:42] <goddard> i think my version of htop isn't 64bit
[19:42] <Xix19> when I run the query given it tells me the preset was not found
[19:42] <delac> bolosaur: the variable should be set up now. are you sure that it actually is fix for your problem?
[19:42] <goddard> it is topped out at 3425mb of ram
[19:43] <OerHeks> goddard, what makes you think htop isn't 64 bit?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> goddard: you can check with:   file `which htop`
[19:44] <bolosaur> delac: No clue man.
[19:44] <tbrown> ActionParsnip: There is no way to install anything? I cant access the browser or the terminal or anything that will give me internet access. There no way of telling that I even have internet on here..
[19:44] <zykotick9> goddard: to check if htop executable is 64bit use "file /usr/bin/htop".  but you probably need to check your kernel really, "uname -m"
[19:44] <bolosaur> This problem is far too much of a moving target.
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> tbrown: press CTRL+ALT+F1   can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[19:44] <bolosaur> I just know that like
[19:45] <bolosaur> if I run the script from within the terminal, it appears to work
[19:45] <alexsn> Got it sorted. The module is loaded from ramdisk so i needed to run 'update-initramfs -u'
[19:45] <Zatara> Boa tarde...
[19:45] <Naildriver> Hi I'm having a little problem with my HP Laserjet 2100 on ubuntu 12.04 it installs just fine but only prints 1-2 jobs then you have to reboot to print again any ideas?
[19:45] <Zatara> alguém poderia me tirar uma dulvida
[19:45] <tbrown> ActionParsnip: Thank you so much:)
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> tbrown: ctrl+alt+f7 to go back to desktop
[19:46] <tbrown> ActionParsnip: OK THANKS:)
[19:46] <Zatara> help br
[19:46] <zykotick9> tbrown: it's actually alt+f7 to get back, ctrl is only required when you are in Xorg
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: :P
[19:47] <Zatara> alg fala português - Brasileiro
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[19:47] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: just trying to save a keystroke ;)
[19:47] <zowsz> this chanel is american bb
[19:47] <Zatara> #ubuntu-br
[19:48] <zowsz> lol lol lol
[19:48] <Naildriver> Hi I'm having a little problem with my HP Laserjet 2100 on ubuntu 12.04 it installs just fine but only prints 1-2 jobs then you have to reboot to print again any ideas?
[19:48] <klj613> hello, my caps lock has a 'delay' "LIke THIs It WOnt TUrn OFf FAst." - Ubuntu 12.04 - Razer Lycosa (Same problem on Linux Mint)
[19:48] <klj613> cant seem to find a solution via google
[19:51] <meisje> Where can I upload a Screen Shot to?
[19:51] <guntbert> !screenshot | meisje
[19:52] <meisje> Thank-you
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> meisje: imgur, imageshack etc
[19:52] <meisje> Thanks
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> meisje: I have a script to do it here :)
[19:52] <Sefid_Par> ActionPasnip:Would you mind add it here?
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Naildriver: if you grab the latest HPLIP from the HPLIP site, it may help
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> klj613: what keyboard is it?
[19:53] <klj613> Razer Lycosa
[19:54] <thickey_> Hey all, does anyone know where I can enable screen edge detection (for switching virtual screens) in 12.04 under Unity? Thanks!
[19:54] <Naildriver> Thanks i'll give that a try been searcing google for a few days with no luck
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> klj613: can you give a pastebin of the output of:   lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsusb      Thanks
[19:54] <byerley> I seem to have lost my history; Can someone scroll up and tell me that command for switching environments?
[19:55] <klj613> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/0iZiT3BZ
[19:56] <guntbert> byerley: this channel is logged
[19:56] <tbrown> ActionParsnip: I was wondering how can I get the terminal to work in the LXDE Session:) Because I dont know if I Always want to do that short cut???
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> tbrown: CTRL+ALT+T should work
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> klj613: not finding anything, all I can suggest is report a bug. Might just be slow
[19:59] <edlinde> hi all, I am connected to a Ubuntu box and I think one of the disks is "unmounted" because the machine was probably restarted
[20:00] <edlinde> I am wondering how I can look at unmounted disks as well
[20:00] <edlinde> and how I can mount it back?
[20:00] <klj613> ActionParsnip: okay, thanks for looking into it anyway. where should I report bugs?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> edlinde: I'd fsck it unmounted first
[20:01] <guntbert> edlinde: you list all disks with sudo fdisk -l
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> klj613: just run:    ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-input-all
[20:01] <edlinde> ActionParsnip, sorry didn't get you
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> edlinde: it makes sure the file system is healthy, its like chkdsk in windows
[20:02] <edlinde> ActionParsnip, yeah but I don't want to check if the filesystem is healthy or not
[20:02] <edlinde> I will just paste my fdisk output
[20:02] <edlinde> maybe that helps
[20:02] <guntbert> !paste | edlinde
[20:02] <OerHeks> My pc is getting slower and slower booting > 20 s http://picpaste.com/pics/oerpc-precise-20120516-1-vCCPlqsA.1338580876.png  and > 32 s http://picpaste.com/pics/oerpc-precise-20120601-1-1vRzZeVU.1338580835.png  what is going slow?
[20:03] <klj613> ActionParsnip: okay.
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: run:   dmesg | less      look for large gaps in the time on the left. Should give clues
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> klj613: could try another distro in liveCD, see if it is diferent. Something like suse....
[20:07] <eutheria> is there a ppa for unity updates to 12.04?
[20:07] <eutheria> i would really love to have better controls over the menu
[20:07] <klj613> ActionParsnip: im going to try that in a bit. also going to look for a old keyboard to try that.
[20:07] <tuxgeek> get the gnome shell
[20:08] <eFfeM> hi, I've installed 12.04 on ssd, I normally keep firefox open, so on boot it starts automatically with the tabs I had when shutting down, but with the ssd firefix starts before the network is up, what can I do to add a little delay ?
[20:08] <tuxgeek> eutheria: i think it's much better
[20:08] <eutheria> tuxgeek, unity is much much better than 11.10
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> eFfeM: use the sleep command to add a small pause
[20:08] <eutheria> in fact i've left cinnamon
[20:08] <tuxgeek> 11.10?
[20:09] <eutheria> tuxgeek, the last version of ubuntu?
[20:09] <eFfeM> ActionParsnip: figured that but no idea where it stores the commands that are autolaunched
[20:09] <tuxgeek> are you running ubuntu 11.10?
[20:09] <OerHeks> thnx ActionParsnip , i see a gap eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[20:09] <OerHeks> 9 seconds
[20:09] <eutheria> tuxgeek, no unity is much better now than in 11.10
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> eFfeM: in the desktop files in ~/.config/autostart     or use the startup application in dash
[20:10] <tuxgeek> ok
[20:10] <tuxgeek> have you tried gnome shell?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: you can disable ipv6 with the boot option:    ipv6.disable=1
[20:10] <eFfeM> ActionParsnip: ah thanks!
[20:11] <tuxgeek> eutheria: if u havn't already...i suggest you shld
[20:11] <guntbert> !u | tuxgeek
[20:12] <phiscribe> god thats pathetic
[20:12] <eutheria> tuxgeek, not to sound rude, but is english your first language?
[20:12] <Macaroni> i have a problem with the latest ubuntu, my keyboard didn't work, so i decided to run the update manager (typed the password using the character app) and during the update, my screen locked and now it prompts me for my password, only now i can't use the character map, what can i do now?
[20:12] <tuxgeek> eutheria: yeah!
[20:12] <tuxgeek> why?
[20:12] <eutheria> tuxgeek, well i am confused why you don't understand me
[20:13] <eutheria> tuxgeek, unity is much better now than it was in 11.10
[20:13] <tuxgeek> i think i do
[20:13] <tuxgeek> i got that already...:)
[20:13] <eutheria> what i am after is more updates to unity
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> eutheria: indeed, its improving all the time
[20:13] <tuxgeek> ok
[20:13] <tuxgeek> ubuntu software center
[20:14] <eutheria> i was hoping that maybe there was a ppa somewhere with updates to unity?
[20:14] <tuxgeek> ahh
[20:15] <phiscribe> ppa's are evil
[20:16] <eutheria> ppa's are not evil
[20:16] <pedahzur> The US download mirrors seem awfully slow today. Some Ubuntu event/release that I missed?
[20:16] <phiscribe> yes its taking me about 30 min to do a apt-get upgrade, pedahzur
[20:16] <phiscribe> normaly its just a minute or two
[20:16] <pxl> Hey, would anyone mind if I asked a couple of questions?
[20:17] <tuxgeek> shoot
[20:17] <pxl> I'm having some issues installing 12.04 on my mac.
[20:18] <pxl> I've got it on a USB stick and manage to get it running from it two times.
[20:18] <mofacta> Is it possible to install 12.04 with bootcamp?
[20:18] <motherbrain> I am trying to log on to the android forum and other forums but I cann't I have read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration
[20:18] <pxl> I then decided to install it alongside mac os x but realized I needed to do some partitioning.
[20:18] <tuxgeek> ok
[20:18] <tuxgeek> so?
[20:18] <pxl> So, I boot up Lion, partition and and setup.
[20:18] <mofacta> mac disk utility can do that for you no problem
[20:19] <pxl> Try to boot into ubuntu from USb and..
[20:19] <pxl> BAM
[20:19] <pxl> No deal.
[20:19] <motherbrain> but when I issue /msg ,..etc it just pops me out like I was starting another group
[20:19] <pxl> It just wont boot.
[20:19] <pxl> Some text regarding the EFI flickers past for a tenth of a second and the screen goes black.
[20:19] <pxl> Fans rev up, but nothing more.
[20:19] <tuxgeek> is your mac set to boot from usb?
[20:19] <zykotick9> pxl: some macs won't boot gnu/linux from usb... something to keep in mind
[20:20] <pxl> Keep in mind I booted Ubuntu from USB twice before.
[20:20] <pxl> This all happened the same day.
[20:21] <pxl> I realize I should probably burn a cd and try that, but now I'm way too annoyed to let this go.
[20:21] <pxl> HOw can I boot from a USB drive twice and thena bit later not at all?
[20:21] <tuxgeek> are you sure the usd isn't corrupt
[20:21] <pxl> I even redid the whole thing twice.
[20:21] <pxl> Still the same result.
[20:21] <guntbert> !enter | pxl
[20:22] <pxl> Ah, sorry bout that.
[20:23] <mofacta> pxl:  So you're attempting to install ubuntu onto our mac via USB so you can dual boot?
[20:23] <mofacta> Am I right?
[20:23] <pxl> Precisely.
[20:24] <pxl> I just recently partitioned my drive into a OSX drive (HFS+) and one for the Ubuntu installer to work it's magic on (FAT32 for now).
[20:24] <mofacta> does this http://lifehacker.com/5531037/how-to-triple+boot-your-mac-with-windows-and-linux-no-boot-camp-required
[20:24] <theseus> anyone know of a good ubuntu ftp server with a graphical interface?
[20:25] <mofacta> help
[20:25] <mofacta> ?
[20:25] <mofacta> sorry, shitty typer right now
[20:25] <Fishscene> Theseus: filezilla?
[20:25] <Fishscene> I'm a bit confused by what you mean with "graphical FTP server"
[20:25] <mofacta> pxl: that link might help.  Dunno.
[20:25] <WarOfTheNerd> FishFace, he means a server with a GUI method of configuring it
[20:26] <skarufue> hi. anyone here know their way around exim4 and DKIM?
[20:26] <theseus> yeah, filezilla only has a graphical interface for client but not linux server side
[20:27] <WarOfTheNerd> theseus, why do you need a graphical server config app by the way?
[20:27] <pxl> mofacta: I've read about rEFIt and was kind of hoping I wouldn't have to install anything messing with the EFI. Seeing as I managed to boot into Ubuntu from the stick before I was kind of hoping I just missed something essential this time around.
[20:27] <Fishscene> I'm afraid I've not heard of a GUI ftp server for Linux. I usually use VSFTP as that requires very little configuration and works with the Linux permissions out of the box.
[20:27] <WarOfTheNerd> theseus, editing config files is actually easier...
[20:27] <Yago> hello
[20:27] <Yago> I have a questions pertaining to uninstalling my ubuntu dual boot
[20:27] <mofacta> well with this type of thing you're going to have to do a little hacking to get it to work right
[20:27] <tuxgeek> hello Yago!
[20:28] <WarOfTheNerd> Yago, what are the questions? =]
[20:28] <theseus> no reason, just wanted to know if one existed.  WebAdmin uses a web interface but only handles the SSH perspective and not the actual folder sharing
[20:28] <sloucher> :pxl - I think you should be ok. Do you know to hit the "option" key when you boot
[20:28] <Yago> How can I remove my ubuntu dual boot without my Win Xp reinstallation CD?
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> Yago  delete the ubuntu partition, use gparted
[20:29] <mofacta> MonkeyDust:  You beat me to it!
[20:29] <Yago> MonkeyDust: is there guide somewhere? Im fairly new to this and don't wanna destory my computer :)
[20:29] <mofacta> Or you can use Partition Wizard.  It's so straight forward.
[20:29] <pxl> sloucher: As I said, I've booted up Ubuntu from the USB stick twice before. Using that very method, holding option(alt) to choose my boot disk
[20:29] <skarufue> when i send mails they get a DKIM signature but verification says neutral (Bad Format) more info here: http://pastebin.com/as9Pj6vz
[20:29] <pxl> Somehow, it doesn't work anymore.
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> Yago  boot from a ubuntu live cd or usb, run gparted, delete the ubuntu partition
[20:30] <Yago> MonkeyDust: will i be able to boot back into Windows?
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> Yago  yes
[20:30] <tuxgeek> Yago: ofcourse
[20:30] <Yago> thank-you
[20:30] <Yago> Ill stay around and let you know how everything goes
[20:30] <sloucher> pxl so install ubuntu on the dos partition and ? you should be ready to go?
[20:31] <mofacta> Yago:  Download partition wizard home edition (free).  Make boot media disk.  Boot into Partition Wizard from CD.  Delete Ubuntu partition.  Resize Windows partition as needed.  Apply.  Done.
[20:31]  * MonkeyDust hands mofacta a beer
[20:31] <mofacta> gparted has a rougher interface that you may have a harder time with if you're new to this.
[20:31] <pxl> sloucher: the problem is that I can't boot into the USB anymore, I'll paste my previous description of the problem: "Some text regarding the EFI flickers past for a tenth of a second and the screen goes black."
[20:31] <mofacta> PW is easy as piss.
[20:32] <loculinux> perkines kuliaos
[20:32] <Yago> lol thanks mofacta ... let me copy that somewhere
[20:32] <pxl> It just stopped working.
[20:32] <mofacta> Thanks for the beer!
[20:32] <loculinux> marikones kulios
[20:32] <loculinux> chupen la porroide
[20:32] <Yago> im not that new just not as experienced
[20:33]  * tuxgeek nods at Yago
[20:33] <mofacta> ;)
[20:35] <Yago> how can i ignore all the joined/quit messages?
[20:35] <Yago> on irc
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> Yago  depends on the program you use
[20:36] <Yago> i use good ole google chrome
[20:36] <pxl> Yago: Web client?
[20:36] <Yago> web browser
[20:36] <Yago> webchat.freenode.net
[20:36] <pxl> Yago: click the logo in the top left
[20:36] <hangdeadman> hi can someone please tell me the location in the filesystem of ubuntu 12.04 of the Archive Manager?
[20:36] <pxl> then options. There's the option to hide the messages
[20:36] <Yago> thank-you
[20:36] <pxl> You're welcome
[20:37] <saliak> I'm trying to get emails from a remote server via fetch mail, and deliver them to a local script (via procmail).  i've created an entry in my /etc/aliases file that reads as "foo : /usr/bin/script.sh".  my mda line in fetch mail is mda "proemial -d foo".  when it runs, however, it can't find the user foo.  any ideas what's wrong?
[20:37] <escott> hangdeadman, file-roller
[20:37] <hangdeadman> usr/bin/file-roller?
[20:37] <escott> hangdeadman, maybe. use "which" to find the actual binary
[20:38] <hangdeadman> what would the command be? I am still fairly new to linux and using the terminal, thanks.
[20:39] <guntbert> hangdeadman:      which file-roller
[20:39] <tuxgeek> hangdeadman: command for what?
[20:39] <hangdeadman> thanks!
[20:40] <hangdeadman> Is there a book I could read to better learn how to use the terminal in ubuntu?
[20:40] <tuxgeek> lnag
[20:40] <tuxgeek> linux newbie administrator guide
[20:41] <tuxgeek> get the pdf
[20:41] <tuxgeek> google it
[20:41] <hangdeadman> great thanks!
[20:41] <tuxgeek> :))
[20:41] <genii-around> hangdeadman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:42] <mdonovan> #join Development
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> !manual
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> hangdeadman: or install unp and extract most things from cli
[20:42] <Yago> what does you guys think about Mint?
[20:43] <escott> saliak, did you read man 5 aliases?
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> Yago: mint is offtopic here
[20:43] <Yago> ok
[20:43] <Yago> sorry
[20:46] <mdonovan> join/#Development
[20:46] <tuxgeek> what's that?
[20:46] <tuxgeek> ok...get it
[20:47] <EtgarDizz> hello
[20:47] <EtgarDizz> i accidentally delete my search providers from /usr/share/gnome-shell/open-search-providers... can someone pastebin them plz??
[20:48] <saliak> escott: yeah.  I mean, I added a pipe to script as the "value" and ran postalias.
[20:48] <guest2010> !later
[20:48] <saliak> escott: it seemed like that should do it.  i'm clearly missing something
[20:49] <EdgEy> Hello guys. I've just bought a USB camera, it takes micro SD card and has a USB port so that it can be used for 'mass storage mode' too.
[20:49] <Siivrenion> Having a little problem. It seems as if applications are not showing up in the dash for some reason? I don't think I changed anything (or don't know what changed). I have 11.04
[20:49] <EdgEy> I know that the camera is working because if I use a micro SD reader, I can view photos, videos, etc.
[20:49] <escott> saliak, so you have |/usr/bin/script.sh where that script reads from stdin and dumps to the correct mailbox?
[20:49] <EdgEy> But if I connect via USB, it doesn't appear as a mountable drive, nor does anything appear in 'lsusb'
[20:49] <designbybeck> So I'm working on some online videos... Where this video might play in Quicktime or would play from within the webpage... On Ubuntu it is trying to play in Totem Movie Player? but it isn't working
[20:49] <saliak> escott: yeah.  the problem i'm having is that proemial says the user can't be found.
[20:49] <EdgEy> Are there any error logs I can check somewhere?
[20:50] <krababbel> EdgEy: you probably need to switcht its usb mode to mass storage, if actually possible
[20:50] <Siivrenion> EdgEy, many cameras have to be turned on or switched to mass media mode before they will try to associate. does the screen of the camera say it's on that?
[20:50] <escott> saliak, did you restart the procmail service?
[20:50] <OerHeks> EdgEy, did you put it on, after instering the usb cable?
[20:50] <designbybeck> ANy ideas? I have bot ha MOV and a hinted MP4
[20:50] <krababbel> EdgEy: there are cameras without mass storage mode, only ptp mode
[20:50] <Siivrenion> Anyone know how I can adjust what types of things the dash searches for, and why no applciations would be appearing?
[20:50] <EdgEy> well, the design of the camera is such that it should just act as a usb drive - it is very basic and cheap
[20:50] <EdgEy> no screen, etc
[20:51] <krababbel> EdgEy:  i think dmesg logs should tell, if linux sees any device being connected
[20:51] <EdgEy> mass storage mode is advertised, it's possible that the thing is just broken, I am wondering if there is some way for me to check if the system has any idea it exists other than lsusb
[20:51] <EdgEy> thanks krababbel
[20:51] <saliak> escott: hrm. i thought procmail was an mda and wasn't really a service
[20:51] <klj613> on "Printers" (network) it detected my printer (came up twice), tried to use "print test page" on both and on one it goes to the 'job list' but gets stuck on 'processing'. it says the ip address is 'localhost' which is wrong and cant seem to change it
[20:52] <krababbel> EdgEy: np, btw, I have an old nikon compact digital, which just ceased to work over usb after a few months
[20:52] <escott> saliak, its not something i use. i just noticed that you didnt have a | so what you had didnt make much sense
[20:52] <krababbel> same issue
[20:52] <EdgEy> krababbel well I have a point and shoot camera for normal use
[20:52] <designbybeck> i pulled it up on a mac and they both play as expected
[20:52] <EdgEy> this one is a sort of cheapy eBay 'spy cam' for my motorbike helmet, i suspect it might just be dysfunctional :P
[20:53] <krababbel> EdgEy: i don't know, i guess so, my nikon did the exact same thing
[20:53] <saliak> escott: i see. hrm. so, no.  i'm wondering if i even need procmail.  in this application, does the same thing get passed to my script if it's in aliases or the mda?
[20:53] <EdgEy> dmesg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1018583/
[20:54] <EdgEy> it charges over usb and I've tried a few different cables
[20:54] <escott> saliak, i dont know
[20:54] <escott> saliak, i would imagine that procmail speaks some network protocol
[20:54] <Optichip> wow Linus didn't take his meds this morning or something
[20:55] <designbybeck> EdgEy: I just read a few things you posted... Shot in the dark.. what about using something like Cheese or Kdenlive... and see if say Kdenlive sees it as a camera source?
[20:55] <designbybeck> lol I saw that Optichip ;)
[20:55] <designbybeck> Linus we was going on and on!
[20:55] <designbybeck> I was like someone help the boy quick!
[20:55] <Optichip> designbybeck: and his last paragraph Oh my..
[20:55] <EdgEy> designbybeck: yeah, I'm going to try cheese, it does have a webcam mode, perhaps it's stuck in that
[20:56] <EdgEy> the device itself is extremely minimal, there are three buttons: on, record/stop, mode :P
[20:56] <Xix19> what's the 'default' ubuntu folder for git repositories?
[20:56] <Siivrenion> nevermind, I found a solution online
[20:56] <Xix19> where should I put them?
[20:57] <escott> Xix19, wherever you want
[20:57] <Optichip> Xix19: usually in the terminal whatever directory you're in.
[20:57] <Optichip> Xix19: I would recommend you create a software folder or something and manage them all inside of that.
[20:57] <Xix19> I know I can put it anywhere I want... I was just wondering if there was a best practice of some kind
[20:58] <Xix19> maybe create "myrepository" in the /opt folder?
[20:58] <Naildriver> Ok tried to install latest HPLIP and get this error The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:58] <Naildriver>  libcupsimage2-dev : Depends: libtiff5-dev but it is not installable or
[20:58] <Naildriver>                               libtiff-dev
[20:58] <Naildriver>                      Depends: libjpeg8-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[20:58] <Naildriver>                               libjpeg-dev
[20:58] <FloodBot1> Naildriver: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:58] <Naildriver>  libsane-dev : Depends: libjpeg-dev
[20:58] <Naildriver>                Depends: libtiff4-dev but it is not going to be installed
[20:58] <Xix19> i understand /opt is for optional software
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Xix19: its a folder you can manually install software to if you want
[20:59] <escott> Xix19, if it is your repository it should go in your home directory. if you are running somehting like gitosis /var would be approriate
[21:00] <EtgarDizz> anyone? can some1 pastebin the content of google.xml and wikipedia.xml?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> EtgarDizz: where from?
[21:00] <kion> since Xorg.conf is not used anymore how do I configure stuff that I would normally do through that file?
[21:00] <Naildriver> ok tried to install latest HPLIP on ubuntu 12.04 and get this error can anyone help?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1018589/
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> kion: it is used if one exists
[21:01] <EtgarDizz> ActionParsnip, /usr/share/gnome-shell/open-search-providers/
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> EtgarDizz: ah, i don't use gnome-shell, sorry
[21:01] <kion> ActionParsnip:  ok that is great!  I have the file but empty
[21:01] <kion> ActionParsnip: If I write my Nvidia card configurations will it mess other stuff not mentioned in the file?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> kion: yes it doesn't exist by default but if you make one, it will be used
[21:02] <kion> ActionParsnip: Thank you very much :)
[21:02] <Optichip> kion: if you used the proprietary driver it'll use the xorg.conf and build your configuration in there.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> kion: you can use:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    to make a skeleton file
[21:03] <kion>  ActionParsnip: I will try that right now
[21:03] <genii-around> !xorgconf
[21:05] <yewnewb> leave
[21:05] <MovenGrove> Right, later yewnewb.
[21:09] <Yago> hey guys
[21:10] <Yago> i was told to Download partition wizard home edition (free) and  Make boot media disk. ...
[21:10] <Yago> can I do that from another computer with a different windows version
[21:13] <haryv> anyone here have zm installed?
[21:13] <theseus> usingzm?
[21:13] <haryv> yea, zoneminder
[21:14] <haryv> I need to configure the kernel or config the BT848 card. Can see vid on xawtv but no matter what config for the monitor, black screen.
[21:15] <haryv> Like to get it working and see live vid on smart phone ..in case some one is in a area of my place they should not be.
[21:20] <haryv> hi spm
[21:20] <haryv> trying to get my btb848 card configured right. Get vid on xawtv but cannot get vid on zoneminder
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Yago: I'd grab unetbootin to make a live USB
[21:27] <Yago> is dont own a flashdrive :(
[21:28] <Yago> ok im creating the iso on a cd from this computer
[21:28] <Aprel_> Hi my desktop has been randomly shutting down, pausing for 1-3 seconds, and coming back on. What logs can I check to look for a possible cause? Any keywords I should grep on the logs?
[21:28] <Yago> then ill boot it on my win xp
[21:28] <Aprel_> It
[21:29] <Yago> delete my ubuntu partition and resize
[21:29] <Yago> and then go for wubi instead of dual boot
[21:29] <Aprel_> It's strange because my BIOS has the setting "action of power failure" which I've set to "stay off", it always comes right back on, so I don't know if it's a power failure necessarily.
[21:30] <Yago> Can i use CD-R for an ISO?
[21:30] <Wanty> Fuck you oll !
[21:31] <Hophanekobazqn> 10x
[21:36] <Devilz_108> I need help with drivers anyone
[21:37] <muelli> !anyone | Devilz_108
[21:37] <Devilz_108> Okay
[21:37] <Devilz_108> Driver manager in Ubuntu asked me to update my GPU driver which is 7970 after the update Ubuntu logs into command line instead of Ubuntu
[21:37] <Devilz_108> Any way to fix it instead of re-installing Ubuntu over again?
[21:39] <muelli> hm Devilz_108. can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[21:39] <cco3> anyone know how I would install both 32 and 64bit versions of a development library in 12.04?
[21:39] <muelli> Devilz_108: but to make you feel comfortable: Yes, should be fixable.
[21:39] <Devilz_108> muelli, I can't go to ubuntu at all
[21:40] <muelli> cco3: apt-get install mylibrary:i386  IIRC. Or ":amd64" if you have a i386 base system
[21:40] <muelli> Devilz_108: but you have the command line, no?
[21:40] <cco3> muelli: if I do that it will uninstall the other one
[21:40] <cco3> I would like both
[21:41] <muelli> cco3: can you provide the output of apt-get?
[21:41] <mike_sun_> hey guys, any idea when we'll see a ubuntu smartphone ? ; )
[21:41] <Devilz_108> Yes I do muelli , what I should type to get (I'm not very experienced with Linux)
[21:41] <muelli> Devilz_108: try: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:42] <Devilz_108> I'll try later and will tell you mate thank you :)
[21:42] <Devilz_108> I got sick of Windows crashing after few minutes of idling
[21:43] <muelli> Devilz_108: as a lesson for you to learn: Don't install the proprietary drivers unless really necessary.
[21:43] <Devilz_108> It was running without a driver you know how I mean
[21:43] <muelli> heh. unlikely.
[21:43] <Devilz_108> Then driver managed popped up with a recommended driver so downloaded and Ubuntu
[21:43] <Devilz_108> It was running with a driver but not the one recommended
[21:44] <SomeOneLikeYou> hi folks
[21:44] <SomeOneLikeYou> my server is hacked today :(
[21:45] <SomeOneLikeYou> now i cannot remove /usr/sbin/sshd;4cfce662 fiiles
[21:45] <SomeOneLikeYou> is there any way to remove these kind of files?
[21:46] <muelli> SomeOneLikeYou: well. if it was a serious compromise, you need to fully reinstall from a trusted medium anyway.
[21:46] <cco3> input: sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dev:i386 output: The following packages will be REMOVED:   libdrm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libxext-dev mesa-common-dev
[21:46] <muelli> and not being able to delete file is a good indication of being rootkitted.
[21:46] <SomeOneLikeYou> yes i know and i will do that after the weekend
[21:46] <cco3> muelli: ^ basically installing :i386 removes :amd64
[21:47] <muelli> cco3: and installing both, the :i386 *and* :amd64?
[21:47] <SomeOneLikeYou> but in the meantime I must install sshd for my config, management etc
[21:47] <cco3> muelli: it lists conflicts
[21:47] <muelli> cco3: output
[21:48] <muelli> cco3: best in a pastebin with the actual invocation (and the returning prompt).
[21:48] <cco3> muelli: yea, working on it
[21:48] <cco3> http://pastebin.com/mY9uQMJM
[21:48] <SomeOneLikeYou> muelli, what is a nice antirootkit tool?
[21:49] <muelli> SomeOneLikeYou: fresh installation...
[21:49] <muelli> SomeOneLikeYou: some people use "rkhunter" I think
[21:49] <muelli> hm cco3. I haven't really worked with multiarch. But you might try aptitude. Other than that: no idea. I might simply be not possible. Or a bug...
[21:49] <SomeOneLikeYou> ok i try that tool earlier but that tool cant find my rootkit
[21:51] <MirkoKa> SomeOneLikeYou: are you sure that you've been cracked? what makes you sure? why can't you remove such files? what are their permissions? have you tried with root (sudo/su) what does "lsattr the_file" say? maybe they are marked as immutable for whatever reason. can you boot a livecd and remove the files from there?
[21:51] <burg> Hello, people. I was wondering if something alike the following could be done. So, firstly, to put Grub on a separate partition, that's totally independent, and can always work (even with no OSs). Then, to install OSs from Grub. Could something like that be done?
[21:52] <SomeOneLikeYou> yes i know i has been hacked because i see my root password in a /etc/libr (or something like that) file
[21:52] <SomeOneLikeYou> my sshd server is hacked by an old ftp exploit
[21:52] <james1> hello everyone
[21:54] <james1> guton tag
[21:54] <SomeOneLikeYou> -u--ia------- /usr/sbin/sshd
[21:54] <james1> buon giorno
[21:54] <SomeOneLikeYou> hi james
[21:54] <james1> hi
[21:55] <james1> what is the command above?
[21:55] <james1> ssh?
[21:55] <james1> secure shell
[21:55] <james1> change permisions?
[21:55] <SomeOneLikeYou> lsattr
[21:55] <tuxgeek> list attributes
[21:56] <james1> sudo pacman Rdd ubuntu
[21:56] <james1> sudo pacman -Rdd ubuntu
[21:56] <MirkoKa> SomeOneLikeYou: yes, the file is (among others) marked as immutable. use chattr -i the_file to remove that, then try to delete the file
[21:56] <muelli> burg: yes.
[21:56] <SomeOneLikeYou> Tnx iĺl try
[21:56] <james1> cool
[21:57] <james1> 22:56 malvern England
[21:57] <burg> muelli: sweet. Is there any guide for it on the net? I've been searching for one on how to boot an iso from Grub, but didn't really find much.
[21:57] <muelli> well, I don't know myself, really. But I mean, it's just software... So why shouldn't it be possible? ;-)
[21:57] <SomeOneLikeYou> after the chattr -i sshd i still can remove the file
[21:57] <MirkoKa> burg: http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[21:58] <muelli> burg: if you found a GRUB plugin that allowed you to netboot, you could chainload into netboot.me or so.
[21:58] <SomeOneLikeYou> can must me can
[21:58] <motherbrain> stat /p
[21:58] <SomeOneLikeYou> can't
[21:58] <burg> Alright, thanks a lot guys! :)
[21:59] <burg> Btw, is it enough to make a /boot partition, or is there more work than that?
[21:59] <james1> grub can read iso files
[22:00] <SomeOneLikeYou> iĺl try rkhunter once
[22:01] <SomeOneLikeYou> last time i didn't update it
[22:01] <Jordan_U> burg: For loop booting iso images, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F
[22:04] <Canadian1296> Does Ubuntu log anywhere if it's been pinged?
[22:05] <ikonia> Canadian1296: no
[22:05] <Canadian1296> ikonia: Is there any way to log this?
[22:05] <james1> fur burg-er
[22:05] <argief> Canadian1296: if you want, you can set it up with iptables
[22:05] <ikonia> Canadian1296: iptables and ulog
[22:05] <Baribal> Hi. How can I find out which graphics driver I'm running?
[22:05] <mads> Is there any software i could use like netlimiter for ubuntu that works very clean?
[22:06] <Canadian1296> argief ikonia: Which would be easier to do?
[22:06] <ikonia> mads: I don't know what netlimiter is,
[22:06] <ikonia> Canadian1296: iptables + ulog, is the same effort as iptables
[22:06] <mads> Its software that monitors your network speeds and gives you the the ability to restrict tcp and udp
[22:06] <ikonia> mads: in what way restrict
[22:06] <mads> bandwidth
[22:07] <ikonia> you can do that with the netfilter qos modules
[22:07] <mads> per program running on the computer
[22:07] <MirkoKa> mads: *maybe* wondershaper (a CLI tool) but I have no actual idea
[22:07] <argief> Canadian1296: something like this in iptables: iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type 8 -j LOG --log-prefix " ping "
[22:07] <krababbel> mads: can't you router do that? do you want an easy gui?
[22:07] <mads> everyone seems to be drunk on bandwidth except me who's stuck on a small island
[22:08] <Canadian1296> argief: Okay, thanks
[22:08] <mads> yeah thats what i need
[22:08] <mads> easy gui that monitors bandwidth usage of programs running internaly on the computer
[22:08] <mads> and which can restrict outgoing and incoming
[22:09] <argief> mads: yes, any linux :-)
[22:09] <MirkoKa> Baribal: commandline? try "jockey-text  --list"
[22:10] <mads> Well i might have revealed that im quite new to Linux, Do you have any App names for such a tool?
[22:11] <jagginess> mads, #linux (google: "list of software <type> site:wikipedia.org" )
[22:11] <krababbel> mads: none that I am aware of
[22:11] <argief> mads: what's the problem? in my experience, ur linux box wont use up bandwith in the background.  unless you have explicitly told a program to use ur internet
[22:12] <krababbel> usually you only need to mess with partitcular offenders, or give some others precedence
[22:13] <mads> I want to share bandwidth between apps so i can do different things at the same time, im on a asyncron dialup line which makes my outgoing traffic block all my incoming
[22:13] <mads> so if i was to upload anything i would not be able to download at the same time
[22:13] <mads> but it works if i upload at half the speed
[22:13] <skarufue> mads: i strongly advise against a graphical tool but there is one its called gufw but you can do it in commandline but better: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/04/why-ufw-does-not-need-a-gui/
[22:14] <argief> geez mads...  where do u live?
[22:14] <krababbel> mads: wondershaper could restrict upload globally I think
[22:14] <mads> North norway
[22:14] <mads> ill checkout wondershaper
[22:14] <argief> mads: note to self, thanx
[22:14] <skarufue> mads: oh you are looking for a rate limit. not a firewall... sorry
[22:14] <mads> Thanks :)
[22:15] <argief> mads: you could try do it with iptables?  I am thinking u can make buckets, then ensure all your incomming does come in?
[22:15] <mads> Dont need a firewall here, within the time someone would try to access my system they would die of boredom
[22:15] <krababbel> mads: It won't work per app, but usually you can use iptables or a router to check for port number or destination addresses
[22:15] <krababbel> that's the qos
[22:16] <skarufue> mads: the technology for a per protocol bandwith control is called QOS
[22:16] <argief> mads: read this: http://linuxgazette.net/108/odonovan.html
[22:16] <Fishscene> mads: You should always have some kind of firewall. Bots regularly crawl the internet looking for people with vulnerabilities and then take advantage of them.
[22:16] <mads> thanks alot
[22:17] <Chrian> I have a question if I plan on installing ubuntu on my dell inspiron e1705 laptop does the wireless card still work ? or would that take some tweaking?
[22:17] <ikonia> what model wireless card is in it?
[22:17] <escott> Chrian, use the livecd
[22:17] <mads> I did that chrian and im here
[22:18] <Chrian> ah kk yea it's an old laptop so the new version will just auto detect everything now?
[22:18] <ikonia> Chrian: depends on the card
[22:18] <ikonia> Chrian: check the cards supported status
[22:18] <Chrian> lemme check
[22:18] <delac> Chrian: test it with usb or live cd
[22:18] <delac> Chrian: before you install, that is
[22:19] <argief> mads: i'm thinking some creativity with point 3 and 6.  you can limit the number of outgoing/incomming bytes within a certain time frame.
[22:19] <Chrian> thanks for the advice gonna test it out now
[22:20] <mads> Psyshaper is the tool i was looking for
[22:20] <skarufue> mads: http://www.mastershaper.org/index.php/Main_Page this might also intres you
[22:20] <mads> Thanks for all the help
[22:21] <Chrian> now another question is does schtack blueburst run fine in ubuntu?
[22:21] <skarufue> Chrian: just try it out with the liveCD
[22:21] <ikonia> Chrian: what is that  ?
[22:22] <Chrian> Phantasy star online blue burst schtack private server
[22:22] <ikonia> Chrian: does it have a linux port ?
[22:22] <Fishscene> Chrian: I've never tried.
[22:23] <MirkoKa> Chrian: probably not: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=10477
[22:23] <Chrian> I recall reading that theres a program that can run some windows games in unbuntu? whats it called
[22:23] <MirkoKa> Chrian: Wine
[22:23] <ikonia> Chrian: I would not depend on wine
[22:23] <Chrian> oh
[22:23] <Fishscene> Chrian: WINE, but to be honest, it's kind of an ugly "hack"
[22:23] <ikonia> Chrian: if you need to run windows programs, use windows
[22:23] <Chrian> oh ok
[22:24] <Fishscene> Chrian: Do you know broomop?
[22:24] <Chrian> no
[22:24] <skarufue> Chrian: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=10477&iTestingId=24865 doesnt look too good for shtack
[22:24] <mads> You do also have Crossover which is an WINE extension, you could look up their libary to see if they have a solution for that program.
[22:24] <Fishscene> Ok. He runs one of the better servers for that.
[22:25] <Chrian> man you all are so helpful it's interesting though your google fu is strong
[22:26] <kosko> what is the prefered way to add a bin dir to the PATH
[22:26] <kosko> ?
[22:26] <MirkoKa> Chrian: while I agree that one (especially a newbie) shouldn't count too much ( if any at all) on Wine. There are Games with work really great with it (with more or less tinkering)
[22:26] <ikonia> PATH=$PATH:/new/path/bin
[22:26] <ikonia> Chrian: I would not consider wine for anything as a solution
[22:27] <mads> http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=3527
[22:27] <kosko> ikonia: which file>
[22:27] <ikonia> no matter your skill set
[22:27] <kosko> ikonia: bashrc?
[22:27] <mads> the game doesnt work chrian.
[22:27] <ikonia> kosko: just in the terminal
[22:27] <Chrian> ah
[22:27] <mads> For now
[22:27] <kosko> ikonia: to make it permanent?
[22:27] <skarufue> kosko: if you only need it for one user add it to their .bashrc like so PATH="$PATH your/additional/path"
[22:27] <kosko> ikonia: .bashrc would do but
[22:27] <ikonia> kosko: put it in whatever your shell config file is
[22:27] <ikonia> kosko: then put it in there
[22:27] <kosko> ok
[22:27] <skarufue> kosko: oh forget no whitespace but:
[22:28] <ikonia> kosko: the command is PATH=$PATH:/your/new/bin
[22:28] <kosko> let it be the prefered ubuntu way
[22:28] <kosko> :)
[22:28] <Chrian> well darn if only I knew how to make it work haha
[22:28] <Chrian> thanks for the input
[22:28] <kosko> ikonia: thanks
[22:28] <ikonia> Chrian: use windows and it will work fine
[22:28] <kosko> skarufue: thanks
[22:29] <SomeOneLikeYou> i'm looking for a website hosting panel integrated with ubuntu or with a nice trusted repository. Wich one is a goog one?
[22:29] <mads> Well i guess there isnt that much effort put into it, you just have to figgure out what windows sources the game requires to run and puzzle it into a viritual windows.
[22:29] <Dext3r> !list
[22:29] <Dext3r> !alis
[22:29] <skarufue> kosko: please be aware that my first example was wrong. you should put this: PATH="$PATH:/your/new/bin" into your .bashrc like ikonia said.
[22:30] <ikonia> do not use the "
[22:30] <ikonia> PATH=$PATH:/usr/new/bin
[22:30] <Chrian> I see mads thanks, Though I'm guessing a goal for ubuntu is getting as many games to run as possible or would that be a bad thing?
[22:30] <ikonia> ubunbtu is not in control of games
[22:30] <ikonia> games developers are
[22:31] <skarufue> ikonia: why not? its a string string can be in ""
[22:31] <Jordan_U> ikonia: Quotation there is fine, and while not needed here I (and #bash)generally encourage quoting whenever variable expansion is involved.
[22:31] <mads> Native highend games runs excellent even better on linux systems. Try Hon for example
[22:31] <ikonia> legacy compatatabiity, but put them if you want
[22:32] <mads> Eve runs flawlessly, eq2 skyrim counterstrike
[22:32] <mads> those last mentioned are ports
[22:32] <ikonia> I don't find them running any better/worse on linux than windows or mac
[22:32] <aszurom> Every time I try to convert to Linux, I fall over a showstopper hardware issue.  Today, it's wifi.  HP Elitebook vs Netgear N router. Just will NOT connect to the damn thing.  Worked great at the office all day on my Apple Airport though
[22:33] <aszurom> anyone feel like sharing my pain?
[22:33] <ikonia> aszurom: no, not really
[22:33] <skarufue> aszurom:  lspci -> chipset of wifi card -> google
[22:33] <ikonia> aszurom: if you're asking for help - then state what help you need
[22:33] <MirkoKa> @bashrc: NO! PATH settings go into .bash_profile not .bashrc. ;-)
[22:33] <ikonia> MirkoKa: bashrc is fine
[22:33] <steelbox> hi there!
[22:33] <mads> ikonia: I do have better results with Linux than i did when i was running 7
[22:34] <steelbox> my flash plugin always crashes under firefox
[22:34] <skarufue> steelbox: more information
[22:35] <steelbox> I have ubuntu 10.04
[22:35] <steelbox> firefox 12.0
[22:35] <steelbox> flash plugin v11,2,202,235 installed
[22:35] <MirkoKa> ikonia: nope. bashrc is sources all the time. you end up with a path like "/bin;/usr/;bin/:/foo/bin:/foo/bin:/foo/bin:/foo/bin:/foo/bin" etc
[22:36] <steelbox> skarufue: can you help me please?
[22:36] <MirkoKa> ikonia: for subshels of course
[22:36] <ikonia> MirkoKa: I don't end up with that and I've just tried it
[22:37] <aszurom> skarufue - lspci is a good start.  I couldn't remember the command, thanks.
[22:38] <skarufue> steelbox: is upgrading your ubuntu an option? we are currently in the 12.4 version.
[22:38] <steelbox> I would like to avoid this
[22:38] <Jordan_U> ikonia: Run "bash" again and check your $PATH. Every time you start a new bash shell (from another bash shell) your $PATH will grow.
[22:39] <ikonia> ahh, you mean it creates a loop
[22:39] <skarufue> steelbox: is the mozilla-plugin-gnash package available in 10.4?
[22:39] <aszurom> which is more fun... ddwrt or tomato?
[22:39] <steelbox> skarufue: I don't know, I can check
[22:40] <fslima0> does this look legit? http://pastebin.com/KUWwkDYb
[22:40] <OY1R> i just connected a pb meastro 220 led monitor to my laptop but im not getting any picture on the monitor.
[22:41] <skarufue> MirkoKa: this is good to know (the thing about $PATH and .bashrc)
[22:42] <tbrown> Am having a little trouble adding a repository. Am typing the sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable Sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[22:42] <burg> Thanks for the help, guys! Sorry for the delayed answer, I wasn't here. Jordan_U, muelli, MirkoKa
[22:43] <j0hn22> hi, i use the latest ubuntu and and "recommended" proprietary nvidia driver and it crashes after some time. This happens only when i use composited desktop environments, cinamon, kde and gnome shell and when i use flash
[22:43] <trism> tbrown: add-apt-repository is in python-software-properties, however that ppa is discontinued
[22:43] <skarufue> tbrown: not entirely shure but you might need the package python-softwareproperties .
[22:43] <skarufue> tbrown: what trism said
[22:43] <xangua> tbrown: you do not need that ppa anymore, you will recieve latest stable firefox from official ubuntu repository
[22:43] <heaevnsmile> I want to make a feature proposal for the software center, but the module do not have any mailist, any idea what the best way is to make such a proposal?
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> !brainstorm| heaevnsmile
[22:45] <h1ppo> hey guys, i have an optimus enabled video card but Ubuntu doesn't seem to recognise the nvidia card, just the intel 1 so unity looks a little crummy. I think it's down to this error in my Xorg.0.log: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[22:45] <h1ppo> any ideas?
[22:46] <jagginess> h1ppo, you mean graphic card.. (video card can confused people)
[22:46] <skarufue> heaevnsmile: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter
[22:46] <h1ppo> i guess, i wasn't sure there was a diff (I'm no expert in these matters :P)
[22:47] <tbrown> I was wondering if I type startlxde will that go back to the desktop experence or how can I go back in to it??
[22:47] <heaevnsmile> skarufue: thanks
[22:48] <skarufue> h1ppo: these cards are a bit tricky. you  could have a shot if you can disable the intel card in bios
[22:48] <SNow> HI guys , Iahve ext4 and "Directory index is Full" what can I do to remove this error? I did fsck - did not help.
[22:48] <h1ppo> id read somewhere u can't do that as the nvidia card wont work without the intel one? i could be wrong tho.
[22:48] <jagginess> SNow, try removing the journal ( http://fenidik.blogspot.ca/2010/03/ext4-disable-journal.html )
[22:49] <heaevnsmile> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com seams kind of  abandoned
[22:49] <h1ppo> it used to work when i was running Linux Mint 11 but none of the new distros seem to work for me now
[22:49] <skarufue> h1ppo oh look what i googled up for you: http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.co.at/2011/08/ironhide-branch-first-release-including.html
[22:49] <OY1R> i just connected a packard bell meastro 220 led monitor to my laptop but im not getting any picture on the screen, running 10.04 and the monitor is identified in the "monitor preferences" and it's set to ON. anyone know what's going on ?
[22:50] <h1ppo> i think thats for launching individual apps with the nvidia card? recon that'll work for launching lightdm?
[22:50] <skarufue> h1ppo: oh look what i googled up for you: http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.co.at/2011/08/ironhide-branch-first-release-including.html
[22:50] <skarufue> h1ppo: jup
[22:50] <twig11> Where does ubuntu store the default wallpaper selection?
[22:51] <h1ppo> ooo, shiny. thanks dude - i'll give it a bash
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> twig11  ~/.backgrounds
[22:52] <tbrown> is there a way that I can install a terminal gnome or something to get the terminal to work on the desktop???
[22:53] <MonkeyDust> twig11  and /usr/share/backgrounds
[22:53] <OerHeks> tbrown hit " ctrl alt T " and there is your terminal
[22:54] <tbrown> OerHeks: Sorry there is no terminal:(
[22:55] <escott> twig11, the images are in /usr/share/wallpapers, the selected option is in gconf/dcond
[22:55] <OerHeks> tbrown terminal should be installed standard, why did you remove it?
[22:56] <twig11> escott: Can you explain how to access that option? I think I've edited dconf once before sometime but I don't remember how.
[22:56] <fl1bbl3> apt-get install gnome-terminal
[22:56] <escott> twig11, why not set the background throught the appearance tool
[22:56] <tbrown> OerHeks: I did not removie it buddy:) I installed LXDE and when I got into the desktop Experence the terminal Button does not work????
[22:56] <plugwash> will using expert mode in the ubuntu alternate CD installer let me choose what I want to install?
[22:57] <twig11> escott: I'm trying to find a way to make user-selected wallpapers show up as the unity-greeter background by default.
[22:58] <jagginess> plugwash, you mean the server iso? (it should allow you to do mdadm partitions)
[22:58] <plugwash> No I mean the alternate ISO
[22:58] <OerHeks> tbrown, if you install gnome-terminal in LXDE then it comes with a lot of packages, lxde uses  LXterminal
[22:58] <escott> twig11, i think it does that with 12.04
[22:58] <SNow> jagginess: did not help ...
[22:59] <plugwash> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso
[22:59] <tbrown> OerHeks: Thanks:)
[22:59] <Jordan_U> plugwash: Yes.
[22:59] <escott> twig11, if you know how to disable that i would appreciate knowing how
[22:59] <jagginess> SNow, maybe it's a physical harddrive stalling.. you should check with dmesg
[22:59] <MirkoKa> tbrown: the default terminal on LXDE is the lxterminal, maybe you haven't installed it. if you have (and with the default settings) CTRL-ALT-t should work as expected
[22:59] <twig11> escott: The only way I know to do this now is to manually drop the desired wallpaper into /usr/share/wallpapers, set permissions correctly, and then apply it as a desktop background. As far as I know, only the default selection of wallpapers will show in unity-greeter.
[23:00] <twig11> escott: now you've got me second-guessing. Let me check
[23:00] <Darael> tbrown: Additional information: for a choice of terminals, try an "axi-cache search terminal" to see options. There will definitely be more than 20 results, but that is what "axi-cache more" is for.
[23:02] <Beta2K> Hello all
[23:03] <Beta2K> Anyone around tried running Minecraft on 12.04 with a ati video card?
[23:04] <MonkeyDust> Beta2K  is that a windows game?
[23:04] <Beta2K> I've gotten it to load minecraft without crashing but as soon as it tries to show the splash screen it restart's unity
[23:04] <Beta2K> MonkeyDust: no, Java
[23:04] <Beta2K> It ran on 11.10
[23:05] <Beta2K> I shouldn't say it loads without crashing since it takes X down :)
[23:06] <guest2010> !aptlock
[23:06] <guest2010> !apt-lock
[23:06] <twig11> escott: I just selected a photo from ~/Pictures, gave others read/write permissions, set it as the wallpaper through the Appearance preference pane, and it doesn't show up on unity-greeter. Any of the bundled wallpapers do, but no others, UNLESS first dropped into /usr/share/wallpapers and their owner changed to root.
[23:07] <escott> twig11, thats certainly desirable. you dont want random peoples contents of $HOME being shown prior to their logging in
[23:09] <MirkoKa> Beta2K: just a guess, but might be a Sun Java vs. OpenJava issue. Maybe this helps:http://notes.ericjiang.com/posts/583 if not, you might need to install the sun-java stuff
[23:10] <Beta2K> I've gone the Sun java route, with OpenJDK the launcher couldn't even get the main game to load
[23:11] <twig11> escott: I understand the drawbacks of that but if users WANT to show off their wallpapers, as several on this machine do, I would like to know how to set the behavior. It's not like it's random information either, since it's something that will show any time the user is actually logged in. Anyway, maybe I'll phrase this as a new question and see if I get any bites.
[23:12] <Beta2K> symlink a folder in ~/Pictures to the /usr one?
[23:12] <Beta2K> Or do they _have_ to be owned by root?
[23:12] <escott> twig11, obviously this wont work if they have an encrypted home
[23:13] <spicy32> hi does somebody know a free web cam chat ?
[23:14] <Haumea> I'm having an issue with WINE
[23:14] <jagginess> spicy32, flastchat123 is probably the best thing I've seen out there (but it's proprietary), as for "client" only.. I don't see the point, there's red5 and similar free flash servers that people just use their webbrowsers to connect to..
[23:14] <Beta2K> Haumea, details? :)
[23:15] <jagginess> spicy32, (flashchat123 is freely downloadable and can be used for non-commercial purposes-- is the server)
[23:16] <kosko> on my vps i see that working from a user is much slower that from root, is it all about nice numbers?
[23:17] <Beta2K> kosko, never seen that before....
[23:17] <jagginess> Beta2K, ~ means /home/<yourusername>
[23:17] <jagginess> Beta2K, /usr is not ~
[23:17] <MonkeyDust> kosko  working from root is less secure
[23:17] <Beta2K> jagginess: I'm aware :)
[23:18] <jagginess> "<Beta2K> symlink a folder in ~/Pictures to the /usr one?" ..
[23:18] <Beta2K> jagginess: There was a path cited under /usr that I couldn't remember :)
[23:18] <jagginess> Beta2K, you don't symlink if you want something out of /usr, you can copy
[23:18] <Beta2K> jagginess: Look up at the OP's problem
[23:19] <kosko> can anyone convert this zsh to bash http://pastebin.com/dwQxANcA 3 lines only
[23:19] <Beta2K> jagginess: They were saying wallpapers in their ~/Pictures didn't show up at the unity login
[23:19] <kosko> Beta2K: i see
[23:19] <Beta2K> jagginess: So my thought was symlink to the wallpapers folder under /usr and then move pics you want there
[23:20] <Beta2K> Assuming they don't _have_ to be owned by root
[23:20] <jagginess> Beta2K, you'll have to reference documentation, but you don't symlink anything between ~ and /usr/<><>..  as for your problem, i don't know what you're trying to do..
[23:20] <Beta2K> jagginess: NVM, it's not even my problem :)
[23:21] <Beta2K> Oh, and I'll symlink whatever I need wherever :)  Best practices be damned
[23:21] <jagginess> well even if its not your problem.. symlinking like this isn't good.. because if one decides to do a backup symlinks can be ignored..
[23:22] <twig11> Beta2K: Didn't see you were on this until just now. Yes, it seems the photo has to be owned by root.
[23:22] <Haumea__> anyway, sorry about logging in and out, I enter the FL studio installer using wine, and it says it's verifying the installer, and then when it reaches 100% it minimizes the window and starts again
[23:23] <Beta2K> twig11: Ugh, that makes it more difficult...
[23:23] <Beta2K> twig11: You could code a daemon to move pics around....
[23:23] <Luceo> Any ALSA experts here? S/PDIF stopped working after an ALSA update and downgrading doesn't fix it
[23:24] <Beta2K> Haumea, checked the wine HQ database?  There might be a few things from winetricks to install
[23:25] <jagginess> Luceo, you still use cd to play music? comeon rip 'em
[23:25] <Luceo> jagginess: I'm not using a CD o.O
[23:25] <Luceo> S/PDIF is optical out
[23:25] <escott> Luceo, if it is intel hda you might play around with the hda_analyzer.py
[23:26] <Beta2K> Luceo: I'd suspect the driver over ALSA itself, ALSA probably fixed something that the driver was relying on being broken :)
[23:26] <Beta2K> Luceo: What kind of card?
[23:26] <Luceo> It's hda intel
[23:27] <twig11> Beta2K: If I could code a daemon at all. :-(  Actually it's not a big deal, I was just hoping there was a simple workaround besides me as admin having to manually change the ownership of the photo and drop it in the directory. However, the system is probably too smart to make that easy. As escott says, who wants unity-greeter grabbing stuff out of people's home directories?
[23:27] <Luceo> Beta2K: HDA ATI SB, VIA VT2020
[23:27] <Luceo> It's onboard on a Crosshair IV Formula
[23:27] <escott> twig11, you should never overestimate your users. some idiot is going to figure out a way to make a background image of all their passwords
[23:28] <Haumea__> Beta2K: the winehq page doesn't seem to have anything...
[23:29] <Beta2K> Haumea__: There's a compatible program listing there somewhere....  One sec...
[23:29] <escott> twig11, thats one of the things that drives me CRAZY with lightdm. they are constantly doing things to make it splashier without (a) notification and (b) a way to disable it. I dont care if my [boot manager|boot framebuffer|login screen] is pretty or not.
[23:29] <Beta2K> Ah ha, appdb.winehq.org
[23:30] <twig11> escott: :-) If they did that AFTER knowing the greeter's behavior, they might deserve the consequences. But I understand the point.
[23:30] <MirkoKa> twig11: if you insist, writing a shellscript around iwatch (or other CLI inotify  tools) shoulnd't be to hard
[23:31] <Haumea__> Beta2K: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=178 doesn't seem to have anything about winetricks...
[23:31] <kion> I have an Nvidia Gtx260M card but it will never reach maximum performance, any ideas?
[23:31] <escott> twig11, except its not their consequences. its your consequences. you are evidently the admin of that system, and are ultimately responsible for the security of it. so now you have to establish a policy that says "you may not use or create backgrounds that contain sensitive information"
[23:32] <twig11> escott: actually, for someone like me who is interested in getting friends and family to take ubuntu seriously in order to wean them off windows, pretty is important. First impressions matter.
[23:32] <tom_> How do I move close, minimise etc to the left side in Xubuntu?
[23:32] <escott> twig11, a more realistic scenario might be somebody deciding to make their background a render or blueprint of some unreleased company product
[23:32] <MirkoKa> kion:  "maximum performance" compared to what?
[23:33] <kion> MirkoKa: Nvidia has 4 performance levels for my card and can be measured with nvidia-settings
[23:33] <escott> twig11, yeah but lightdm has been out for over 6 months now, and we STILL cannot prevent it from showing usernames
[23:33] <Luceo> escott: I'm pretty confused by this hda_analyser, however the relevant pin is set to 'OUT' so I don't think I need to change anything in it
[23:33] <Haumea__> I'll be back in a bit
[23:33] <kion> MirkoKa: it is the clock speed and memory speed, Mine is allways running on a "powersave" mode
[23:33] <escott> Luceo, but is the mixer pin selecting the spdif pin as the output (from the dropdown in the mixer)
[23:34] <OY1R> can anyone help me setup an secondary monitor ?
[23:34] <Rallias> How do I make an sh script executable but not readable to a user?
[23:34] <escott> Rallias, not possible
[23:34] <Luceo> escott: There are like 7 entries under AUD_MIX
[23:35] <kion> Rallias try  chmod 111 Filename
[23:35] <escott> Rallias, you might backup and try and tell us what you are hoping to accomplish and we can suggest another way
[23:35] <escott> kion, but then its no longer executable. is an sh script.
[23:35] <tuxgeek> Rallias: file permissions 101
[23:36] <Rallias> escott I need to make an ssh script that must run as root on both the local server and remote server that have port forwards on ports 25, 80, and 3306.
[23:36] <twig11> escott: Yeah, I'm pretty much convinced on the point about arbitrary user-selected backgrounds after thinking about it. The admin can always introduce another directory for more options if people want it.
[23:36] <escott> tuxgeek, kion, think about this for a moment before you tell Rallias the wrong thing. if you cant read it then sh cant read it
[23:36] <Aethrs> How can I disable unity in 12.04 ?
[23:36] <Rallias> To initiate the tunnel, I need to do ssh -N -f -L 3307:127.0.0.1:3306 -R 80:127.0.0.1:80 -L 25:127.0.0.1:25
[23:37] <twig11> escott: And I agree that they really should make the greeter more configurable.
[23:37] <escott> Rallias, there is nothing priviledged in there. and if your security model is such that those parameters must be secured you have BIG problems
[23:37] <OerHeks> !nounity | Aethrs
[23:37] <kosko> if `means to execute something` how do i insert args[0] there?
[23:37] <kion> escott: I just said try, because I was not absolutely shure, but knowing that what i suggested would not break anything  :)
[23:37] <Rallias> escott, ports below 1024 much?
[23:38] <Aethrs> Thank you so much oreheks :)
[23:38] <escott> Rallias, but reading the file only tells the what the port configuration is. it doesnt tell us anything else
[23:39] <escott> Rallias, i think what you really want is to put this in /etc/rc.local
[23:39] <Rallias> escott I need to have my keyfile password in that file aswell.
[23:40] <Luceo> escott: As I can tell, 0x0e AUD_OUT refers to 0x2d PIN, I dont know where the mixer is to select
[23:40] <plustax> how do I run an application from terminal? I already did sudo su
[23:40] <plustax> and the file is located on my desktop. I tried this. root@ADVAITA:/home/plustax/Desktop# sudo /Desktop/revolutionary
[23:40] <plustax> sudo: /Desktop/revolutionary: command not found
[23:40] <escott> Rallias, so you have an auth-key that you have protected by a password. but if you let people read your private key now you have reduced your auth key security back to the level of a password. seems a bit silly. just put the command in rc.local. remove the password on the auth-key and let it start at boot
[23:41] <Rallias> escott the problem is, that tunnel has a habit of cutting before a reboot happens.
[23:41] <artemis12> plustax: you need the full file path
[23:41] <escott> plustax, sudo -i is prefered over sudo su
[23:41] <plustax> okay what would be the correct path for that program?
[23:41] <plustax> Its right there on my desktop
[23:41] <MonkeyDust> escott  sudo -i is a no-no in this channel, too much harm can be done with it
[23:42] <Rallias> MonkeyDust, Why is sudo -i different from sudo su?
[23:42] <MonkeyDust> Rallias  sudo su is also a no-no
[23:42] <plustax> MonkeyDust, mind telling me the command to start this application?
[23:42] <escott> Rallias, sudo su doesn't preserve env variables that indicate you are in a sudo environment. sudo -i does
[23:42] <plustax> its in /Desktop
[23:43] <plustax> and im currently root
[23:43] <Rallias> plustax then ~plustax/Desktop/whatever
[23:43] <escott> Luceo, its been a long time since i've looked at that application. i dont remember what everything looks like anymore
[23:43] <escott> Rallias, ~ = /root in sudo
[23:44] <MonkeyDust> plustax  it's not a good idea to be root, rather use sudo
[23:44] <Luceo> escott: I cant find a mixer pin which has an option for 0x0e or 0x2d :/
[23:44] <escott> plustax, it would be /home/username/Desktop/whatever
[23:44] <artemis12> plustax: you have to have the filename of the program at the end. for example, if you have exampleprogram.sh on your desktop, you'd run it as sh /home/plustax/Desktop/exampleprogram.sh
[23:44] <plustax> gotcha
[23:44] <plustax> thank you!
[23:44] <artemis12> np
[23:45] <MirkoKa> plustax: NOT usign sudo us actually the prefered way (sudo is only used to run programs with admin (superuser) privileges. you normally shouldn't have any programs in your desktop folder. what program exactly are you trying to run?
[23:45] <escott> Luceo, so there are mixer pins and a pin that roughly corresponds to master volume
[23:46] <Luceo> escott: Viewing the graph would lead me to believe that S/PDIF PIN is only linked to its AUD_OUT
[23:46] <lduros> hi, is there a way to enable to "Free Software Only" option after installing Ubuntu? I know there's an option before installing. But I installed the regular version, and now I only want free software... none of the proprietary stuff. Thanks
[23:47] <escott> Luceo, so then you need to select that AUD_OUT in the dropdown of the "master volume" or something
[23:47] <plugwash> You can remove restricted and multiverse from your sources.list and you can remove any packages installed from them using aptitude
[23:47] <plugwash> not sure if the "free software only" option does anything else
[23:47] <Luceo> escott: That's the thing, that AUD_OUT appears to be linked to nothing except the 0x2d PIN
[23:47] <MirkoKa> lduros: disable the multiverse, restricted  and partner repos
[23:48] <lduros> MirkoKa: plugwash: ah ok! So these don't contain any of the free stuff I might want?
[23:48] <escott> Luceo, but there should be dropdown boxes in other pin controls that enable you to select that pin (or is it radio buttons? dont recall)
[23:48] <Yago> hello
[23:48] <Luceo> escott: The radio buttons don't include that pin
[23:48] <Yago> I need help trying to remove a dual boot
[23:48] <Aethrs> I don't see how to disable unity in gnome-tweak-tool after installing gnome-shell.  Can someone assist me?  it used to be easy to rid myself of unity but it seems like it's gotten a lot harder.
[23:48] <Yago> uninstall ubuntu from dual boot
[23:49] <escott> Aethrs, disable? just select shell on the login screen
[23:49] <Aethrs> Sorry, use gnome instead.
[23:49] <MirkoKa> lduros: IIRC, the universe repo doesn't contain any "spoiled" stuff
[23:49] <Aethrs> Basically look like other Linux dists/what ubuntu looked like before unity.
[23:49] <escott> !notunity | Aethrs
[23:49] <lduros> MirkoKa: by spoiled you mean nonfree? :-) Will these stuff disappear from the software centre as well?
[23:50] <Aethrs> As i said, I read that, and I'm in gnome-tweak-tool.. I don't see how to get rid of unity.
[23:50] <Aethrs> Let me try installing gnome-panel and see if that changes anything.
[23:50] <MirkoKa> lduros: yes and yes (at least as far as I remember)
[23:50] <escott> Aethrs, you dont "get ride" of anything. you just dont use it
[23:50] <Aethrs> Apparently it's already installed.
[23:51] <Aethrs> escott- I used to be able to select "Gnome" on the display manager and forget about unity.
[23:51] <lduros> MirkoKa: what about the precise-security main restricted?
[23:51] <escott> Aethrs, yes. so on the login screen. click on the icon to the right of your username and select a different session type
[23:51] <tuxgeek> Aethrs: you can stil do that...
[23:51] <lduros> and precise-backports, should I just remove the references to "restricted" and "multiverse" without commenting the whole lines?
[23:51] <lduros> I guess so
[23:51] <Yago> MonkeyDust: hey
[23:52] <Aethrs> Oh there it is!  Sorry :)  The other options appeared after I installed the extra package I guess..It wasn't there by default.  Thanks very much :)
[23:52] <Yago> anyone have software for Win XP that allows you to resize partitions?
[23:52] <plugwash> yeah
[23:52] <MirkoKa> lduros: remove the "restricted" component. NOTICE: no more propietary GFX drivers!
[23:52] <Yago> I tried MPWE 7 but its not free
[23:53] <lduros> MirkoKa: I have an intel graphics
[23:53] <escott> Yago, gparted on the livecd/liveusb
[23:53] <Harris> what is a app like homebank but with a password secerity
[23:53] <jagginess> Yago, you have a usb stick or spare cd? gparted live cd is very good
[23:53] <Yago> spare cd but does it work on windows xp?
[23:53] <jagginess> Yago, it's safer to work outside of xp
[23:53] <jagginess> Yago, the boot cd boots up into a gui
[23:53] <lduros> MirkoKa: here is the updated source.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1018806/
[23:54] <lduros> MirkoKa: anything I might have missed?
[23:54] <Yago> jagginess: how so? instead of booting up into an OS it goes straight into a gui?
[23:54] <Aethrs> Okay, so I go into gnome and rather than a nice menu structure on the upper-left click.. I have a unity-style icon thing.
[23:54] <charly_> nice to be here!
[23:54] <charly_> for the first time
[23:55] <tuxgeek> wc
[23:55] <jagginess> Yago, #xp
[23:55] <Yago> ?
[23:55] <Aethrs> Since when does gnome (on anything but ubuntu) have icons instead of a nice menu that lists everything?
[23:56] <Aethrs> It's like someone tried to make gnome into unity for people that don't want unity so they are forced to look at unity.
[23:56] <jagginess> Aethrs, gnome-shell
[23:56] <escott> Aethrs, you might consider reading release notes before upgrading a 2 year old release to a brand new version
[23:56] <Aethrs> escott- It's a new install.
[23:56] <halakar> crap, windows 8 screwed up my boot loader.  how to fix?
[23:56] <Yago> jagginess: what steps do i take?
[23:56] <jagginess> halakar, win8 is not even out
[23:56] <tuxgeek> Aethrs: you can use the gnome clasic
[23:56] <halakar> jagginess, Windows 8 Release Preview, sir.
[23:56] <Yago> jagginess: does MPWE work to do that?
[23:57] <escott> !info gnome-panel | Aethrs
[23:57] <MirkoKa> lduros: looks fine, exept the "restricted" repo. I can't help with Intel stuff, be careful before you remove the "restricted"repo
[23:57] <escott> !grub | halakar
[23:57] <lduros> MirkoKa: ok thanks
[23:57] <Aethrs> Got it.  "Gnome Class (no effects)" is apparently the right answer.
[23:57] <Aethrs> Gnome classic pretty much (to me) looks like it's been owned by unity. ;)
[23:58] <Aethrs> Awesome.. My new laptop is pretty now.  Thanks guys very much.
[23:58] <tuxgeek> np...:)
[23:59] <lduros> MirkoKa: is there a place I can see the version of sources.list that ships by default with a fresh install?
[23:59] <jagginess> Yago, 1- backup your data, 2- download gparted live cd (google it)/download iso/burn iso, when you finish burning iso come back here..
[23:59] <kosko> anyone knows how to make vim always start with the certain nice?
[23:59] <jagginess> Yago, the installer may let you resize partitions, but you have to choose the proper menu items..
[23:59] <kosko> aliase doesn't work
[23:59] <kosko> alias*