[01:41] <astrodon> Why is there no 3.2.0-24  Complete lowlatency kernel?
[01:41] <astrodon> Do the low latency kernels come out days or weeks after the generic?
[01:47] <len-dt> astrodon, we are still working that out.
[01:52] <astrodon> len-dt, working on the "process" to keep up with the generic ?
[01:56] <astrodon> or this is just normal wait-time to release the lowlatency version and you are working on that?
[05:15] <studio-user292> 1204 is looking great!
[13:58] <MaynardWaters> do any of you guys have lenovo thinkpads? I have a dual boot between vista and ubuntu stdio on my T400.  the screen has gone out and the only indicator light that will turn green is the bluetooth.  I am able to plug it into an external monitor and everything works fine on there, but nothing shows up on the laptop screen, ever.  I am hoping i just need to reseed the screen wires or something like that, anyone have recommendati
[14:04] <ailo> MaynardWaters: I don't know what would cause that (I've had a screen stop working, as well as a keyboard on some laptops - not Lenovo), but seems like if this is likely to happen to your model, there should be info about it on the web
[14:07] <MaynardWaters> ailo: yea Ive done a fair amount of research, and was just looking to discuss possibilities with other people who might have similar moels/problems
[14:09] <ailo> On my machines I think the problem has simply been that something got broken on the MB
[14:09] <ailo> Or, the screen (but to check, I'd have to replace it)
[14:10] <ailo> Maybe because of heat
[15:05] <holstein> i have just plugged monitors in and used them as desktop rigs or whatever
[15:05] <holstein> OR.. ripped the screens off and ran headless servers ;)
[15:20] <MaynardWaters> holstein: ailo its a hunge disappointment, since I had basically just got ubuntu studio all set up and running nicely, yea i had already considered just turning it into a server
[15:21] <holstein> MaynardWaters: plug a monitor into the the side and enjoy :)
[15:22] <holstein> theres a recycler here where you can get monitors for $20.. unless you want a fre CRT :)
[15:22] <holstein> free*
[15:22] <MaynardWaters> yea, i have extra monitors around, its just so sad since I was turning this thinkg into an ideal portable  powerhouse  :(
[15:23] <holstein> eh... get an LCD and its just a little less portable
[15:46] <MrNaz_out> hi all... anyone around?
[15:47] <MrNaz_out> im having trouble getting my dv cam to work in ubuntu, and i've been lead to believe this is THE community for firewire related questions
[15:47] <holstein> MrNaz_out: i would try running "lspci"
[15:47] <holstein> i would want to see that the kernel "sees" the device, and shows its plugged
[15:47] <holstein> i would want to try a few different firewire chipsets ideally
[15:48] <MrNaz_out> i'm running a laptop that has worked with the old firewire stack
[15:48] <holstein> you could be troubleshooting the camera, and have an unsupported firewire chipset
[15:48] <MrNaz_out> its a dell e4300 and i know that the firewire chipset works in the old firewire stack because ive been using this same laptop for a while now
[15:48] <holstein> MrNaz_out: i would try a few different live CD's to see if it "just works"
[15:49] <holstein> i would try something 10.04 based, something 12.04 based, and then maybe try a daily 12.10
[15:49] <MrNaz_out> im also sure that the camera works, i've sampled from it using another dell laptop (different model) which can dvgrab from ti fine
[15:49] <MrNaz_out> whats the procedure for getting a cam to work in the new firewire stack?
[15:49] <holstein> MrNaz_out: should be like this...
[15:49] <holstein> plug it in.. use it
[15:50] <holstein> did the camera work in the old setup?
[15:50] <MrNaz_out> yes
[15:50] <MrNaz_out> and still does
[15:50] <MrNaz_out> i have a laptop running the old setup and the cam works fine with it
[15:50] <holstein> could be the kernel though.. you cant assume its something with the FW
[15:50] <MrNaz_out> well
[15:50] <MrNaz_out> ive tried with debian 6 and ubuntu 12.04
[15:51] <holstein> right.. both having different, newer kernels, as well as FW software
[15:51] <MrNaz_out> im about to install 10.04 on the laptop to see if that works just to rule out some other issue
[15:51] <holstein> MrNaz_out: i would just try them live... save some time
[15:51] <MrNaz_out> hm
[15:51] <MrNaz_out> hmm... i didnt trust that to work btu if you sya so i'll trust you :)
[15:52] <holstein> MrNaz_out: it literally wont hurt to try
[15:52] <MrNaz_out> ok
[15:52] <MrNaz_out> booting 10.04 live now... will report back in 3 minutes (or however long it takes to boot)
[15:53] <holstein> best case, you save install time, and hassle.. worst case, you install from the live CD that didnt "work" for your tests
[15:53] <holstein> MrNaz_out: i need to run
[15:53] <MrNaz_out> thanks btw
[15:53] <holstein> MrNaz_out: if no one is here, you should try #ubuntu or #ubuntu-beginners maybe
[15:54] <holstein> since thats not really ubuntu studio specific, try back here as well though :)
[19:17] <userfriendly> hi guys. having a wee problem with the keyring on ubuntu studio 12.04
[19:17] <userfriendly> when i do something like git clone, i get a warning:
[19:17] <userfriendly> WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-Bml89i/pkcs11: No such file or directory
[19:17] <userfriendly> any ideas?
[19:17] <holstein> looks like theres no such file or directory
[19:18] <holstein> you could put it in place
[19:18] <userfriendly> i also get it when i run
[19:18] <userfriendly> lpstat -r
[19:18] <holstein> could be an issue iwth git
[19:18] <holstein> with*
[19:18] <userfriendly> and lpstat?
[19:18] <userfriendly> :D
[19:18] <userfriendly> and svn?
[19:18] <holstein> userfriendly: could be
[19:18] <holstein> its plausible. is it not?
[19:19] <holstein> anyways, i wont be able to give you an answeer
[19:19] <userfriendly> seems strange that lots of software would have the same issue
[19:19] <holstein> i will only give you troubleshooting advice that you can take or leave
[19:19] <userfriendly> seems rather like it's a problem with the keyring itself
[19:19] <userfriendly> ah well
[19:19] <userfriendly> thought someone here might have come across it
[19:19] <holstein> userfriendly: this is *not* ubuntustudio specific though, so feel free and try #ubuntu
[19:19] <holstein> userfriendly: you are literally the first person to mention it
[19:20] <holstein> userfriendly: have you looked in the forums?
[19:20] <holstein> userfriendly: i would *not* search "ubuntustudio blah"
[19:20] <userfriendly> i've googled, seems it occurs not only on LXDE
[19:20] <userfriendly> yeah
[19:20] <holstein> i would search xubuntu or ubutnu
[19:21] <userfriendly> are you on ubuntu studio just now? if so, just to quickly check, run lpstat -r
[19:21] <holstein> userfriendly: i have only 10.04 installed
[19:21] <userfriendly> ah right :) never mind then
[19:21] <holstein> yup
[19:21] <userfriendly> cheers!
[19:21] <holstein> userfriendly: try ubuntu
[19:21] <holstein> #ubuntu
[19:21] <holstein> its not studio specific
[19:21] <userfriendly> roger
[19:22] <holstein> OR better yet #xubuntu
[20:03] <Unit193> Hey jussi, would you mind changing the topic to indicate 12.04 is out rather than 11.10?
[20:22] <jussi> Unit193: ^^
[20:23] <Unit193> Danke!
[20:23] <holstein> jussi: THANKS!... you could drop the "we dont have a live CD" part too
[20:23] <holstein> at your leisure, of course :)
[20:23] <jussi> holstein: did it change?
[20:24] <holstein> yup... our iso is live now
[20:24] <jussi> ok!
[20:24] <jussi> there we are
[20:24] <holstein> jussi: :)
[20:25] <jussi> wiat, one more thing...
[20:25] <holstein> yeah, i agree with that...
[20:26] <jussi> given its now based on xubuntu, not ubuntu propper
[20:26] <Unit193> Topicdiff. <3
[20:42] <MaynardWaters> has anyone written, or know of good sources for creating a persistent usb flash drive with ubuntu studio on it?
[20:44] <ailo> MaynardWaters: Try Debian or Ubuntu regular wikis
[20:46] <ailo> MaynardWaters: Also, you might want to look for reference on how puredyne was created
[20:46] <holstein> or, just install ubuntustudio onto a flash drive
[20:47] <holstein> put grub there, right on the stick
[20:47] <MaynardWaters> im currently working on my first ubuntu usb drive with persistent storage... I was going to install studio from the repo on to that
[20:48] <holstein> i would just do a normal install
[20:48] <holstein> you get all the perks and none of the hassle
[20:48] <holstein> i dont see the point in live with persistent personally
[20:49] <MaynardWaters> it was the method i found the most info on the web on, ill install directly if this doesnt work well.... thats kinda what I wanted to do from the beginning
[20:49] <ailo> It might be interesting for security reasons, but if a normal install will work on any platform, I guess there's no benefit?
[20:50] <holstein> there was some argument, a valid one... i forget what it was though
[20:50] <holstein> didnt do anything for me... i believe it was security related
[20:51] <MaynardWaters> well ill let you know what I find once i get it working
[20:52] <holstein> i mean, it'll work.... i just prefer a normal install
[20:52] <holstein> normal user, ext filesystem
[20:52] <holstein> all the goodies
[20:53] <holstein> last time i did persistent was 9.10.. then i actually felt a little silly when i just installed to the USB stick ;)
[20:54] <MaynardWaters> will the direct install avoid this casper-rw stuff?
[20:55] <MaynardWaters> i suspect it will
[20:55] <holstein> it'll just install, and boot, and run, and work
[20:55] <MaynardWaters> holstein: can I ask you do google around for a quick sec and offer me a method that looks sound that follows the way you would do it
[20:56] <holstein> MaynardWaters: i would just install.. just use the installer to install to the USB stick
[20:56] <MaynardWaters> ok
[20:56] <holstein> MaynardWaters: it'll look just like normal... just with the USB stick as the destination for the intall and GRUB
[20:57] <MaynardWaters> got ya
[20:58] <holstein> i might use an alternate xubuntu iso, make sure grub either doesnt get installed, or goes where i want it to
[20:59] <MaynardWaters> reason for using xubuntu?
[20:59] <holstein> worst case, you end up with GRUB looking for that USB stick each time you boot, and you have to fix that
[20:59] <holstein> MaynardWaters: xubuntu is closest to ubuntustudio with an alternate iso
[21:00] <holstein> MaynardWaters: i would use that or something minimal
[21:00] <holstein> like, a commandline only install from alternate
[21:00] <MaynardWaters> k