[00:13] <knome> pleia2, hai
[00:13] <pleia2> hello knome 
[00:13] <knome> pleia2, what do you think of a xubuntu users group in linkedin?
[00:14] <knome> pleia2, there is already a group, and the creator asked if he could make it "official"
[00:14] <pleia2> if we have someone with linkedin-fu to run it, I think it'd be fine
[00:14] <pleia2> oh great
[00:14] <knome> but...
[00:14] <knome> meh, isn't linkedin for some kind of work-networking stuff
[00:14] <knome> who cares if you *use* xubuntu?
[00:15] <pleia2> I used to run one for the philly lug, but I was really bad at it (I don't log on often and they don't send many email alerts)
[00:15] <pleia2> there is an ubuntu users one, and one for ubuntu members
[00:15] <knome> actually, now the group says "official", but has the old logo too
[00:15] <knome> i'd be more comfortable if somebody from the team was (also) an administrator, like in g+
[00:15] <pleia2> yeah
[00:16]  * knome is not on linkedin, and not joining because of this
[00:16] <pleia2> I can do it if you want, I at least know how
[00:16] <knome> okay, that would be much appreciated
[00:16]  * Unit193 is not on linkedin, and not joining
[00:16]  * pleia2 joins
[00:16] <knome> pleia2, can you be in contact with the admin, and work that out?
[00:17] <pleia2> knome: how did they ask?
[00:17] <knome> pleia2, sec
[00:17] <knome> pleia2, that : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2011-September/007970.html
[00:18] <pleia2> oh, gosh
[00:18] <knome> i know it's way too long since it's sent but...
[00:18] <knome> :|
[00:18] <pleia2> thanks, I'll follow-up
[00:19] <knome> pleia2, ok, thanks
[00:20] <knome> pleia2, if you need help with new logos and so, just send me email with the dimensions you need
[00:22] <pleia2> ok :)
[00:24] <knome> trying to get the mail folders empty and everything documented as work items or just done...
[00:24] <pleia2> you rock <3
[00:25]  * knome blushes
[00:25] <knome> thanks ;)
[00:26] <knome> i'm wondering if there is a way to make the "in the press" -subpages look better
[00:26] <knome> there aren't so many things there anyway
[00:27] <knome> i'm wondering if it was the newest release on the "main page" and the rest in "archive"
[00:28] <pleia2> we did play with that idea
[00:29] <knome> most of the subpages have like 4 items
[00:30] <knome> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/gmusicbrowser-to-replace-exaile-in.html <- also, not sure how much sense it makes to archive things like this
[00:30] <knome> especially from both OMG!U! and webupd8
[00:30] <pleia2> it's history, I like it :)
[00:31] <ochosi> :)
[00:32] <knome> so, should i combine the old releases to one page?
[00:32] <knome> i could do that now
[00:33] <pleia2> I dunno
[00:33] <knome> http://xubuntu.org/press/lucid/
[00:33] <knome> that's sad :(
[00:33] <ochosi> but also a long time ago...
[00:33] <pleia2> maybe if we also clean up empty "screenshots" and "screencasts" section
[00:33] <pleia2> s
[00:33] <knome> pleia2, of course.
[00:33] <knome> pleia2, i was thinking of just adding one header per release
[00:33] <knome> (just the release name)
[00:34] <ochosi> http://www.google.at/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CFQQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Do7bYs3BN85g&ei=-A3IT5bqF-zT4QTu-YAg&usg=AFQjCNGMCaOqiYXThM_-s4FRPke99c9FVQ
[00:34] <ochosi> sry for that
[00:34] <ochosi> gah
[00:34] <knome> heh. :)
[00:34] <pleia2> knome: like "10.04" ?
[00:34] <ochosi> you could add this screencast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7bYs3BN85g
[00:34] <knome> pleia2, or "10.04 Lucid Lynx", whichever
[00:34] <pleia2> yeah, 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) is good
[00:35] <knome> k
[00:35] <pleia2> Xubuntu certainly is redundant :)
[00:35]  * knome goes working
[00:35] <pleia2> ochosi: ah, good!
[00:35] <pleia2> knome: ^^ add that one
[00:35] <pleia2> for lucid
[00:35] <ochosi> pleia2: and part 2 of the same screencast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85ElbqlGex0
[00:36] <knome> pleia2, ochosi, will do
[00:36] <ochosi> should we also add this review? :) http://gvxdev.wordpress.com/2010/03/24/xubuntu-lucid-is-disappointing/
[00:36] <knome> lol
[00:36] <ochosi> screenshot tour: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/xubuntu-1004-lucid-beta-1-screenshots.html
[00:37] <ochosi> guys, have you even googled before adding the /press pages? :D
[00:37] <knome> ochosi, no.
[00:37] <ochosi> guys _and_ gals, sry
[00:37] <knome> ochosi, that's just migrated from the old website
[00:37] <pleia2> I wasn't around during lucid :P
[00:37] <knome> i'm sure there is loads of pages around the web
[00:37] <pleia2> that "disappointing" review doesn't seem to understand what LTSs are about
[00:37] <knome> the thing why i pasted the wepupd8 link...
[00:38] <ochosi> another video-review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLDnsDftzMg
[00:38] <knome> is that i don't think we should serve a "google results" page :P
[00:38] <ochosi> and another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LnitFybRL0
[00:38] <knome> just gather some meaningful and insightful (even if negative) reviews
[00:38] <ochosi> of old releases??
[00:38] <ochosi> :}
[00:38] <knome> ochosi, of any releases
[00:39] <knome> ochosi, i suppose something like 4-5 articles *is* actually quite fine
[00:39] <knome> ochosi, http://hurr-durr.com/
[00:39] <knome> ochosi, that's for you
[00:39] <knome> that's the best review ever.
[00:40] <pleia2> hah
[00:41] <knome> pleia2, see my point with only linking to a few high-class articles?
[00:41] <Unit193> Ahahaha! Loves it:D :D :D
[00:41] <pleia2> yeah
[00:41] <knome> there's probably a few things we could drop from the current list, but
[00:41] <knome> let's see
[00:41] <pleia2> but I don't think we exclude the more tabloidy ones out of hand, some of their articles aren't horrible :)
[00:42] <knome> yup. but just telling the news isn't something i think we should make people go through on archives ;)
[00:42] <ochosi> knome: did you just want to rickroll/hurrdurr me? :p
[00:42] <ochosi> btw, for 9.10: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/xubuntu-9-10.html
[00:43] <knome> ochosi, no, i think; BLEH.
[00:43] <knome> :D
[00:43] <pleia2> knome: fair enough
[00:44] <ochosi> anyway, g2g to sleep
[00:44] <ochosi> night everyone!
[00:44] <knome> ochosi, night!
[00:45] <knome> pleia2, i'll combine the pages first, then if i'm not too tired, quickly check the lists for babble ;)
[00:45] <pleia2> ok :)
[00:46] <knome> eg for hardy, there are two reviews from the same site; pre and final
[00:46] <pleia2> if they have differing content I don't think that's bad
[00:47] <knome> have to see :)
[01:03]  * knome cleans up some dead links too :/
[01:15] <knome> http://xubuntu.org/press/archive/
[01:18] <drc> While perusing the press section, I noticed that http://xubuntu.org/press/precise/ did not have http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/xubuntu-pangolin.html
[01:18] <pleia2> knome: ok
[01:18] <knome> drc, it did today when i checkeed
[01:19] <pleia2> yeah, I checked when someone sent a mail to the list about it
[01:19] <drc> dud
[01:19] <drc> It does.
[01:20] <pleia2> yeah, it does
[01:20]  * drc need to up the font size again :(
[01:21] <pleia2> looks like I added it when Unit193 mentioned it in -offtopic on May 17
[01:21] <drc> Eyes are too tired to see what is clearly there...time for bed
[01:21] <pleia2> :)
[01:21] <pleia2> good night
[01:29] <knome> pleia2, http://xubuntu.org/press/,
[01:30] <knome> -,
[01:30] <pleia2> knome: hey, looks good!
[01:30] <knome> yeah!
[01:31] <knome> the "Articles about..." header could be more imaginative
[01:31] <knome> like "What are they saying about us?" or sth
[01:31] <knome> doesn't need to say 12.04 at this point
[01:32] <knome> actually, refresh
[01:33] <pleia2> that's good
[01:36] <GridCube> page , not found
[01:36] <GridCube> :P
[02:58] <pleia2> bah, that qa pad isn't loading
[03:00] <Unit193> http://typewith.me/p/xubuntu-qa-20120601 ?  Not really working here either.
[03:00] <pleia2> yeah
[03:01] <Unit193> Secondary browser also fails.
[03:57] <Unit193> Is there a chance that "Midweight" can be put on the website to clearify a little?
[03:59] <Unit193> pleia2: See above when yous get backs?
[04:00] <pleia2> maybe
[08:46] <knome> pleia2, Unit193; weird (pad not working)
[08:46] <knome> works fine for me
[08:46] <knome> but generally, no need for it to work for you ;)
[08:46] <Unit193> Now it's working.
[08:46] <knome> it's just a todo list for me and astraljava 
[08:47] <knome> oh bleh, invoies
[08:47] <knome> +c
[08:47] <knome> ;)
[08:47]  * knome pays
[08:47] <knome> it's thee internet
[08:49] <knome> happy june
[09:10] <ochosi> gtk3.6 will really be quite powerful in terms of native theming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTYUn72Wjyk&feature=player_embedded
[09:10] <ochosi> (or for those of you who prefer to read: http://blogs.gnome.org/cosimoc/2012/05/31/gtk-and-css-updates/ )
[10:27] <knome> looks good, but i agree with the first commenter
[10:27] <knome> i'm afraid many many people will create some really wacky stuff which then breaks and people are crying for help or thinking their pc is bricked or so
[10:42] <ochosi> yup
[10:52] <ochosi> btw, i'm not so afraid of that, people are already doing whacky stuff with the pixmap engine...
[10:57] <knome> ;)
[14:28] <GridCube> ochosi, ping
[14:28] <ochosi> GridCube: pong
[14:28] <ochosi> (don't have much time though)
[14:28] <GridCube> :| im stuck in the same place as yesterday
[14:28] <ochosi> what place is that?
[14:28] <GridCube> ihave to rule out some media players
[14:29] <ochosi> right
[14:29] <GridCube> wich ones should i pick to start the comparisons?
[14:29] <ochosi> what's your current list?
[14:29] <GridCube> listen, exaile, rhytmbox, quodlibet
[14:30] <ochosi> rhythmbox is rather heavyweight
[14:30] <ochosi> what's exaile's current status?
[14:30] <GridCube> i ruled out audacious and decibel because the mediatheque abilities come from plugins and are not preseted
[14:30] <ochosi> last time i checked it was utterly broken
[14:30] <GridCube> i have no idea ochosi :/
[14:30] <ochosi> what about beatbox instead?
[14:31] <GridCube> !info beatbox
[14:31] <GridCube> ^
[14:31] <ochosi> you need to get it from a ppa atm
[14:31] <ochosi> https://www.google.at/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CFYQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Flaunchpad.net%2F~sgringwe%2F%2Barchive%2Fbeatbox&ei=PdLIT9DILseV-wbAu7Vg&usg=AFQjCNFU8ZwI1iGRkFPgoorDKBNnKI-IMw&cad=rja
[14:31] <GridCube> its not in the repos so its not on my list, and no one told me about it before :/
[14:31] <ochosi> gah
[14:31] <ochosi> no problem
[14:31] <ochosi> ppa:sgringwe/beatbox
[14:32] <GridCube> ah, old google's incrediblelongurl.php
[14:32] <drc> ochosi: how was/is exaile broken?
[14:32] <ochosi> also there's xnoise
[14:32] <GridCube> never heard of those 
[14:32] <ochosi> sorry guys, i need to run now
[14:32] <GridCube> :)
[14:32] <GridCube> ok thanks you give me more to think
[14:32] <GridCube> :P
[14:32] <GridCube> drc i have no idea
[14:32] <ochosi> GridCube: maybe good to do some more research on potential players ;) (clementine, guayadeque etc...)
[14:33] <ochosi> see y'all
[14:33] <GridCube> i did some
[14:33] <GridCube> :)
[14:37] <drc> Has the decision been made whether the team wants a player or a player/manager?
[14:38] <GridCube> drc i have no idea, im doing what i think i should be doing, but for what i understand nothing will change
[14:39] <GridCube> i dont understand this wiki :/
[14:39] <drc> plus ça change, plus c'est  la même chose:(
[14:40] <GridCube> mmhm
[16:05] <pleia2> linkedin group secured
[16:35] <astraljava> Whee!
[16:59] <knome> pleia2, hallo
[16:59] <pleia2> hi knome 
[16:59] <knome> pleia2, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Short
[17:00] <knome> pleia2, we updated that with astraljava 
[17:00] <pleia2> great
[17:00] <pleia2> shall we move to qa wiki?
[17:00] <knome> pleia2, yeah, once we know what the structure is
[17:00]  * pleia2 nods
[17:01] <pleia2> so for Ubuntu: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopPostInstallation
[17:02] <pleia2> but I guess  /Short is a bit more than that
[17:02] <knome> pleia2, those should be run too