[00:18] <ball> Is Xubuntu available for PowerPC macs?
[00:19] <chelz> ball: why yes it is
[00:19] <ball> chelz: Great! I've just been given one. :-)
[00:20] <ball> ...and I would rather run Xubuntu than MacOS X
[00:21] <ochosi> +1
[00:22] <Unit193> You'll have to build from the mini.iso though.
[00:24] <chelz> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/precise/
[00:24] <ball> Unit193: Is there no .iso image readily available then?
[00:24] <chelz> goes to http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/
[00:24] <chelz> ball: there is, the mini.iso there
[00:25] <chelz> ball: though you have to install xubuntu-desktop yourself after the install
[00:25] <Unit193> But not of Xubuntu fully installed, didn't have enough people testing it to know if it worked or not.
[00:25] <ball> Oh.
[00:25] <ball> I suppose I could try Ubuntu.
[00:25] <chelz> one thing is those netboot isos aren't gpg signed ;/
[00:26] <chelz> i remember they weren't and i raised it in some ubuntu channel
[00:27] <chelz> ball: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[00:27] <chelz> there is 12.04 for Lubuntu, which has LXDE
[00:28] <chelz> latest desktop ISOs for PowerPC are for 10.04, which is supported until April 2013
[00:29] <ball> That's what my sister-in-law has on her i386 desktop
[00:32] <chelz> i mean that April 2013 thing for Xubuntu btw, not Lubuntu
[00:33] <ball> I understand
[00:33] <ball> I just grabbed the .torrent for the 10.04 Xubuntu
[00:33] <ball> We'll see if I can make that work.
[00:35] <Unit193> Would be far better off using the mini and installing xubuntu-desktop.
[00:39] <ball> If I can make 10.04 work, then I may try using this mini disk.
[01:16] <vn> hi, im trying to install xubuntu, but it doesn't list my devices/partitions, what can I do?  if I go to ctrl+alt+f1 and into cfdisk, I can manage them...
[01:18] <cythes> vn, Are you on a laptop?
[01:18] <vn> cythes: at the moment yes, but I am installing on a desktop
[01:20] <cythes> Oh I was going to say sometimes I know it sounds silly but the HDD becomes unattached from the computer and I have to slide it back into place (But that is because I am constantly flip flopping drives) Sorry mate thought I could help.
[01:21] <ball> cythes: where are you from?
[01:22] <vn> cythes: np, thanks for trying :)
[01:24] <cythes> ball, Right up the road from where pleia2 used to live lol (PA)
[01:24] <ball> PA as in Pennsylvania, USA?
[01:25] <ball> I was thrown by your use of "mate" there.
[01:25] <cythes> Yess it is.
[01:25] <cythes> I do that from time to time, sorry. (Even said it to myself in an aussie accent)
[01:26]  * ball grins
[03:45] <Vani> I downloaded avast on Ubuntu, and upon scanning it told me it found a decompression bomb, but it won't let me delete it or move it to chest, what should I do about this?
[03:46] <Unit193> Where is it?
[03:46] <Unit193> !antivirus
[03:47] <Vani> Does that mean a decompression bomb would be harmless on a linux? It's in mozilla's cache.... :/
[03:48] <Unit193> May as well delete it though, if it's just in the cache.
[03:48] <Vani> Well, Avast won't let me delete it... so would i have to go into my cache?
[03:49] <Unit193> Firefox > Edit > Preferences > (one of the tabs) > Clear cache.
[03:49] <Vani> (one of the tabs) lol, there's a tab called "Tabs" ... it's not that one though
[03:50] <Unit193> Advanced
[03:52] <drc> Advanced>Network
[03:53] <Vani> :/ if antivirus isn't need on a linux, then how was there a decompression bomb?
[03:57] <Vani> oh... that was a bot...
[03:58] <Unit193> It is a virus, but really only a problem on windows.  Changing systems doesn't turn it into a non-virus, just doesn't affect the system,
[04:00] <Vani> oh... well I wanted to install Avast, cause while I heard Linux is really safe, certain programs can let viruses or hackers in.. like flash
[04:04] <Vani> okay, this isn't really an Ubuntu question, but does each web browser have it's own cache? so you have to individually clear them?
[04:04] <Unit193> Yep, though some may use /tmp a little.
[04:04] <drc> Vani: Usually, yes...
[04:50] <vn> hmm I'm just done installing xubuntu and I cannot click like 10% of links and buttons...any ideas?
[04:50] <vn> maybe because my mouse is a rat7?
[07:26] <root____2> nice xubuntu
[08:11] <onizu> i'm having difficulties with panel2
[08:11] <onizu> it does not get really transparent. i'd like to show the window behind it while it's transparent
[08:11] <onizu> and not the desktop wallpaper
[08:11] <onizu> is it possible?
[08:14] <baizon> onizu: change opacity
[08:16] <onizu> i did
[08:16] <onizu> it still shows the blue strip
[08:16] <onizu> only the icons are transparent
[08:41] <onizu> ok, that worked only when i had it set to automatically hide
[15:22] <martinphone> does any of you know any compilation of french radio stations ready to be added to rhythmbox, radiotray and the like?
[15:25] <drc> martinphone: you can start here...right click on the one(s) you want and save link as (pls), then add to the player of your choice.
[15:25] <drc> http://www.shoutcast.com/Internet-Radio/french
[15:25] <drc> I know for a fact that they work in RB and RT :)
[15:26] <martinphone> drc, omg
[15:26] <drc> whay?
[15:26] <drc> what?
[15:26] <martinphone> 45 minutes of saving as?
[15:26] <drc> It's a start....
[15:27] <drc> I know of nothing that is a "one click adds everything to a player"...although there may be.
[15:27] <GridCube> http://dir.xiph.org/index.php
[15:27] <GridCube> :D
[15:28] <drc> as GridCube shows, there <are> lots of lists :)
[15:28] <aquix> icecast directory is not funny
[15:29] <drc> ?
[15:29] <aquix> listen to noagendashow.com
[15:49] <blackgatonegro12> doing a fresh install of Xubuntu 12.04 right now, any advice?
[15:49] <martinphone> backup
[15:49] <GridCube> backup
[15:49] <drc> and then backup
[15:50] <GridCube> mmhm, oh and dont forget to backup
[15:50] <blackgatonegro12> by fresh install, I mean I whited the entire disk, is not an upgrade
[15:50]  * drc is seeing atren here
[15:50] <blackgatonegro12> *whiped
[15:50] <GridCube> :D tho nothing bad should happen
[15:50] <GridCube> :D then go ahead, if i have a recomendation is having a dedicated partition for /home
[15:50] <GridCube> but thats me
[15:52] <drc> You've got to have <some> data you want to backup...I also do what GridCube said, then boot the livecd and wipe all the .$CONFIG files , install and its as good as a totally fresh format/install
[15:52] <blackgatonegro12> Well, I had problems after an upgrade, so I decided to to it from zero
[15:53] <drc> I also backup the .$CONFIG files and restore those I know I want to use.
[15:53] <blackgatonegro12> I have all the valuable data in a second hard disk, so far that has proven to be the best idea I had in years
[15:53] <drc> That works also
[15:56] <GridCube> mmhm, but having a dedicated /home its nice because you can simply install clean, delete .$CONFIG files, adn vuala! clean system, except for those tiny configs you like, like for example allyour bookmarks on firefox, all the servers and channels in xchat, etc, etc
[15:57] <drc> ok, ok...$CONFIG files <and> folders.
[15:59] <blackgatonegro12> I noticed some config files do seem to have a few problems after upgrading, anyway, having a second hard disk is wise and nowadays kind of cheap. Having a second particion is not such a good idea, there is always the risk of the disk getting dameg and that.
[15:59] <GridCube> :)
[16:00] <GridCube> mmhm yes
[16:00] <blackgatonegro12> been using ubuntu sistems since version 6, it has improved a lot, but a install from zero is still the best option
[16:00] <blackgatonegro12> anyway, gotta reboot now
[16:00] <blackgatonegro12> bye
[16:00] <drc> bye
[16:10] <martinphone> can anyone help me to create sub categories in this index? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1018145/
[16:10] <martinphone> I need to add several subgroups to a group
[16:19] <martinphone> solved
[17:22] <blackgatocatnegr> Xubuntu 12.04 installed an updated, any sugestions?
[17:23] <pleia2> have fun? :)
[17:23] <GridCube> :) be happy
[17:24] <GridCube> XD
[17:25] <blackgatocatnegr> any recommended program?  I mean I know libreoffice replaced open office but besides that....
[17:25] <GridCube> blackgatocatnegr, install your driver, gksu jockey-gtk, update programs, install libreoffice if you want
[17:26] <GridCube> check that xubuntu-restricted-extras is intalled, check that gmusicbrowers its a media player that you would like to use, i know i dont like it, but hey its tastes
[17:26] <blackgatocatnegr> is fresh install from zero,  so besides the default programs it has little else
[17:26] <GridCube> :)
[17:27] <GridCube> check that you have flash installed on firefox
[17:27] <blackgatocatnegr> ah yes medibuntu, gotta install that
[17:28] <GridCube> if you listen to internet radios you could install vlc or xine to have its plugins, etc, etc. its all tastes
[17:28] <blackgatocatnegr> vlc, k3b (I prefer it) what else... audacity....
[17:28] <GridCube> mmhm :) what ever you want, its just an apt-get away from you
[17:29] <blackgatocatnegr> actually totem works better for internet radio streams than vlc, at least on linux, but then this is vlc 2.xx, maybe it got better
[17:29] <GridCube> don't know
[17:29] <GridCube> i just use xine
[17:30] <blackgatocatnegr> well, many radios updated in a way that you can only listem to them if you have windows or listem to them using firefox
[17:30] <blackgatocatnegr> some even inist in you using winamp
[17:31] <GridCube> lol
[17:31] <blackgatocatnegr> yes, is sad
[17:32] <GridCube> :) blackgatocatnegr this are not support questions, it would be better if you join #xubuntu-offtopic :)
[17:32] <blackgatocatnegr> funny, when they still used rm you could listem them in linux thanks to vlc native rm audio suport or something
[17:32] <blackgatocatnegr> ok, sorry, any bug  besides the usual "Flash is screwed without propitary video driver" I should know about?
[17:34] <GridCube> flash is screwed with popietary drivers
[17:34] <GridCube> flash is just plain bad
[17:35] <blackgatocatnegr> trrue, but until youtube fully moves to html 5, I will have to use it.
[17:35] <GridCube> though with all honesty, lately it has been working pretty well,  with or without propietary drivers
[17:35] <GridCube> i cant complain from the last months
[17:35] <GridCube> since 12.04 it hasnt crashed once
[17:35] <blackgatocatnegr> Gridcube, all the questions I got about "I upgraded ubuntu, now flash works bad" prove otherwise
[17:36] <GridCube> :P well i talk from my experience
[17:36] <blackgatocatnegr> but thats just the usual "Forgot to update video driver" stuff
[18:46] <martinphone> what can I use to replace >< for >returnkey< in axml file?
[18:46] <martinphone> return key is obviously, that big key to the right of the keyboard
[18:46] <shpank> sed
[18:46] <martinphone> in synaptic?
[18:46] <xubuntu264> Hi, I just installed Xubunu and Avant Navigator, but removed the Xcfe-navigator. After a restart the "start-menu" at the top of the screen has disappeared. What have I done wrong?
[18:48] <xubuntu264> is the start-menu part of the navigator package?
[18:48] <shpank> martinphone: try sed -e 's/></>\n<' yourfile.xml
[18:49] <shpank> but make a backup first
[18:49] <shpank> :)
[18:53] <martinphone> shpank, sed: -e expression #1, char 9: unterminated `s' command
[18:53] <shpank> martinphone: try sed -e 's/></>\n</' yourfile.xml
[18:54] <shpank> but i don't think it works like this
[18:55] <martinphone> no shpank , it didnt
[18:57] <holstein> xubuntu264: i would just add back everything to a panel and see what is what.. you can also look at a live CD, or at the guest account (or a new user account) and learn what has been removed
[18:57] <holstein> i think its called "main menu" or "menu"
[18:58] <xubuntu264> you are quite right. Main menu
[18:58] <xubuntu264> i will return after a log out
[19:23] <userfriendly> hi guys. having a wee problem with the keyring on 12.04, i get a warning: "WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-Bml89i/pkcs11: No such file or directory"
[19:23] <userfriendly> this happens when i do something like git clone, lpstat -r
[19:23] <userfriendly> etc.
[19:24] <userfriendly> has anyone come across this?
[19:25] <userfriendly> found this thread, tried the suggested solution :( but that didn't fix it for me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11952512
[19:26] <Unit193> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/932177
[19:26] <Unit193> There's a few fixes in thet bug report.
[19:26] <Unit193> (Actually, one by me, and it works, but it may not be exactly how it "should" be done)
[19:27] <userfriendly> ta, i'll have a bash at that
[19:41] <userfriendly> Unit193: thanks mate, one of the fixes there (having the daemon start and eval its output in the bash profile) did the trick
[19:42] <Unit193> Great!
[19:44] <S0210> I use Xubuntu 10.04 and I'd like to upgrade to 12.04. But following the guidelines at http://xubuntu.org/upgrading/ the most I can achieve is that "update manager" offers me an update 10.10... :-( Is there a way to force it to show me 12.04?
[19:45] <Unit193> Open a terminal and type  sudo do-release-upgrade -d   should offer you precise.
[19:47] <userfriendly> also thanks at holstein ;)
[19:47] <holstein> userfriendly: :)
[19:51] <S0210> Thank you, Unit193! It seems to be exactly what I need ... :-)
[19:51] <Unit193> Glad that helps...
[19:52] <genii-around> Hm. But 12.04 should no longer be a development release
[19:53] <Unit193> 10.04 > 12.04 is considered, it'll be moved once it gets .1
[19:53] <genii-around> Ah, interesting
[19:53] <genii-around> Unit193: Good to know
[19:53] <Unit193> Yep, sure is.
[21:20] <x_> Hello - does anybody know a program like Acdsee that opens PSD files ( gThumb doesn't open PSD, and i do not need to edit them using Gimp, i just want to be able to browse PSD files )
[21:21] <GridCube> mmm
[21:21] <GridCube> let me do some research
[21:29] <GridCube> x_, :/ it doesnt seems like, apparently you can convert the psd files using convert from the imagemagick collection
[21:30] <x_> ... :( veeery strage ... so much tools but no PSD support ... my acdsee version is 15 years old and supports PSD ...
[21:30] <x_> (on windows)
[21:31] <GridCube> x_, https://code.google.com/p/gdk-pixbuf-psd/
[21:31] <GridCube> :D
[21:31] <x_> i have allready tried that but it didn't work
[21:31] <GridCube> x_, you know, you can easily run irfanview with wine
[21:31] <GridCube> :D
[21:32] <genii-around> gloobus-preview maybe
[21:32] <x_> i have xubuntu 12.5
[21:32] <GridCube> D: .5 how impossible
[21:32] <x_> if you know for sure that it works I WILL TRY AGAIN
[21:32] <GridCube> x_, i don't know
[21:33] <GridCube> i mean trying irfanview with wine is easy :P
[21:33] <GridCube> or even acdsee
[21:34] <genii-around> Gloobus review: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/09/quick-previews-in-gnome-ubuntu-with.html  PPA:  https://launchpad.net/~gloobus-dev/+archive/gloobus-preview
[21:34] <x_> i do not want to use wine - there are some articles on the internet in witch peaople said that they messsed up their computer with windows viruses
[21:35] <GridCube> lol. you have to do pretty specific things to get viruses on wine
[21:36] <GridCube> pretty reaaaaaaaaaally specific things
[21:36] <GridCube> like helping the virus a lot
[21:36] <moreno> hi all. i had installed my xubuntu 12.04 yesterday and couldn'tget it to install audacity due to dome broken packages that i don't how to fix it. anyone can help me with this?
[21:36] <GridCube> moreno, open a terminal
[21:37] <Sysi> you can't mess up anything really bad without running as root, if you run wine as root you're really asking for it
[21:37] <GridCube> write sudo apt-get autoremove
[21:37] <moreno> GridCube, did it
[21:37] <GridCube> then sudo apt-get update
[21:38] <moreno> GridCube, didi it
[21:38] <moreno> GridCube, sorry, did it.
[21:38] <GridCube> then sudo apt-get install audacity
[21:40] <moreno> GridCube,  audacity : Depende: libflac++6 (>= 1.2.1) but it aint installble: Impossíble corrigir problems, you got it  (hold)  quebrados.
[21:40] <moreno> GridCube,  you got it  (hold)  broken packages.
[21:40] <GridCube> mmmhm
[21:40] <GridCube> i see
[21:40] <moreno> GridCube, this broken packages is killing me.
[21:40] <GridCube> moreno, how weird
[21:41] <GridCube> !info libflac
[21:41] <moreno> GridCube, neither cant it install lmms.
[21:41] <GridCube> !info libflac++6
[21:41] <GridCube> mmhm
[21:41] <moreno> GridCube, they said in synaptic that i have libflac8!
[21:41] <GridCube> mmhm
[21:42] <GridCube> moreno, can youpastebin the outputs of sudo apt-get update?
[21:42] <GridCube> !pastebin
[21:43] <moreno> GridCube, http://pastebin.com/j08RxHey
[21:43] <GridCube> moreno, thats all of it?
[21:43] <GridCube> all of all?
[21:44] <x_> Gloobus preview - doesn't work - despite the fact that on their site they say it works for PSD files
[21:44] <moreno> GridCube, yes
[21:44] <GridCube> thats wrong
[21:44] <GridCube> you are missing a lot of sources
[21:44] <moreno> GridCube, really? how can i do that?
[21:45] <GridCube> moreno, check your sources on the software origins settings
[21:45] <moreno> GridCube, where?
[21:46] <GridCube> mmm in the menus, search for Software Origins, it might be something like "Origenes de Software"
[21:48] <moreno> GridCube, didnt find it. :\
[21:48] <GridCube> in synaptic in the configuration menu
[21:51] <moreno> GridCube, in configuration i have: preferences, repository, filters, define internal option and tools bar.
[21:52] <GridCube> keep seraching the menus, in one there is it
[21:54] <moreno> GridCube, dont have it. and they keep saying that i HOLD the broken packages
[21:55] <moreno> but it didnt do it
[21:55] <GridCube> moreno, you can not "not have it"
[21:55] <moreno> GridCube, so ... i dont know
[21:56] <moreno> GridCube, :) inportugueses thats nothing like software origins..
[21:56] <moreno> do i have to searcj something in synaptic?
[21:56] <moreno> before software origins?
[21:58] <GridCube> no you have to see that you have all the origins activated
[21:59] <moreno> GridCube, just dont know, didnt finfd that
[21:59] <moreno> GridCube, :(
[21:59] <GridCube> !origins
[22:00] <moreno> GridCube, i have installed here libflac8, i think to run audacity it needs libflac++6, so i dont know if can unisntal one and change to the ohter
[22:00] <GridCube> moreno, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Software+Sources.png
[22:00] <GridCube> it looks like that
[22:00] <GridCube> i was translating wrong, its sources
[22:00] <GridCube> :/
[22:00] <GridCube> in spañish it says "origenes" and as such i misstranslated
[22:01] <moreno> GridCube, i know some english, dont have nothing like this here
[22:02] <moreno> i have preferences, repositories, filters,..
[22:02] <GridCube> moreno, open repositories
[22:03] <GridCube> :/
[22:03] <moreno> GridCube, , so...
[22:03] <GridCube> it looks like this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Software+Sources.png
[22:05] <moreno> GridCube, yes it does. :)
[22:05] <GridCube> :)
[22:06] <GridCube> well then
[22:06] <GridCube> i don't know :/
[22:06] <moreno> ha ha ha serious? haha a
[22:06] <GridCube> why you have so little sources on your update
[22:06] <GridCube> mine goes to like 100 sources every update
[22:07] <GridCube> search for libflac++6 in synaptic
[22:07] <GridCube> and see that is installed and not locked
[22:08] <martinphone> can you help me with radiotray? I dont know where else to ask
[22:09] <martinphone> I need help to get bookmarks
[22:10] <moreno> GridCube, dont install it
[22:10] <GridCube> moreno, you dont have them installed?
[22:10] <moreno> dont even appear libflac++6
[22:11] <GridCube> well moreno I dont know, for what i understand you dont have the sources upadated
[22:12] <moreno> and even know how to do that, GridCube
[22:13] <GridCube> moreno, in the repositories change the "download from" to another place
[22:13] <GridCube> and try to update again, from apt-get or from synaptic
[22:52] <martinphone> i need a text editor that includes linec ounting as geany
[22:52] <martinphone> counting
[22:55] <Unit193> Sooo, what about geany?
[22:59] <GridCube> id say geany, i like that one
[22:59] <Unit193> I prefer scite, as it's closer to N++