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| luc4_mac | Hi! Is there any way to somehow reset all network settings? I reported bug 997767 and I noticed I can't reproduce when booting the live CD. | 08:53 |
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| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 997767 in linux "Network connection [rtl8139 / 8139too] is lost after some hours of inactivity and comes up again on user interaction" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/997767 | 08:53 |
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| luca | Hi! I reported a bug and I discovered it seems it is not reproducible with the live CD. Do you think it is better if I reinstall or should I wait for ubuntu guys to find out the cause? | 16:24 |
| penguin42 | is this the network disappearing one? | 17:12 |
| luca | penguin42: yes | 17:13 |
| penguin42 | luca: Is the live cd the same version you have installed or is it newer? | 17:14 |
| njin | penguin42, hello, when clicking on a partition in nautilus, is mountall mounting it ? | 17:15 |
| luca | penguin42: the installed version might have some newer packages as I might have upgraded some. Anyway, 12.04 for both. | 17:15 |
| penguin42 | njin: I don't think so - I've not quite figured out mountall, but I think it does all the bootup stuff | 17:16 |
| penguin42 | luca: It's going to be a tricky one to debug, so it might take a long time, so if it's annoying you it might be best to reinstall if it's not too painful; but before you do, try creating a new user and see if that user inherits the problem | 17:17 |
| njin | ok, thanks, then is nautilus mounting the partitions ? I can easily reproduce crashes not captured monting and unmounting partitions | 17:17 |
| penguin42 | njin: I suspect it's udisks that's doign the mounting - but what is the program that you're seeing crash and when you say crash what do you mean - hang, nautilus crashing or something more subtle? | 17:17 |
| luca | penguin42: oh... that is something simple I didn't try. I'll try that thanks! | 17:18 |
| njin | penguin42, nautilus simply close itself, under strace the last line is 19:05:27.300576 exit_group(0) = ? | 17:19 |
| njin | before i've got [pid 14728] 19:05:27.299574 futex(0x7fc810004684, FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET_PRIVATE, 1, {27941, 978095000}, ffffffff <unfinished ...> | 17:20 |
| njin | [pid 14725] 19:05:27.299608 futex(0xc93e40, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 0 | 17:20 |
| penguin42 | njin: Hmm that line doesn't say much really | 17:20 |
| penguin42 | njin: That's just it cleaning up | 17:20 |
| penguin42 | njin: This partition - where is it? Local disk? USB? network? | 17:21 |
| njin | the partitions are on a second HD | 17:21 |
| penguin42 | njin: OK, does it end up mounted after nautilus quits? i.e. if you type mount in a terminal does it show up? | 17:21 |
| njin | yes, mount and umount works well, just nautilus close itself | 17:22 |
| njin | [Inferior 1 (process 14580) exited normally] | 17:22 |
| njin | in gdb | 17:23 |
| penguin42 | hmm, that's one for the nautilus guys I think | 17:23 |
| njin | ok, thanks, I open a report for nautilus attaching a screencast and strace and valgrind. | 17:24 |
| penguin42 | I doubt the strace/valgrind will help to be honest - and I guess they're pretty chunky | 17:24 |
| njin | penguin42, do you think valgrind is useful or better to not attach it | 17:24 |
| njin | ops, sorry | 17:25 |
| njin | ok thanks again | 17:25 |
| penguin42 | njin: it doesn't sound like it's segfaulting or the like, so I doubt it's much use | 17:25 |
| penguin42 | njin: If you run nautilus from a terminal does it print any diagnostics before it exits? | 17:25 |
| njin | tring | 17:26 |
| njin | trying | 17:26 |
| njin | penguin42, nothing, it simply exit | 17:26 |
| brokenfingers | bug 1006427 Does this sound like a bad ISO error to anyone else here? Or is it just me? | 17:27 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1006427 in Ubuntu Quantal "Live image won't boot, stuck on "stdin: Not a typewriter"" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006427 | 17:27 |
| penguin42 | njin: One for the nautilus guys | 17:27 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: Have you asked them to try changing the ribbon? | 17:28 |
| njin | penguin42, great suggestion...ERROR:nautilus-places-sidebar.c:1885:open_selected_bookmark: assertion failed: (sidebar->go_to_after_mount_slot == NULL) | 17:28 |
| njin | Aborted (core dumped) | 17:28 |
| penguin42 | njin: Ah - that's what they'll want to know | 17:28 |
| brokenfingers | No, I asked them to check the MD5 | 17:28 |
| njin | yeah | 17:28 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: They don't say what PPC hardware and whether they had it boot a previous version ok, they don't say if they're CD booting or anything | 17:29 |
| brokenfingers | I'm assuming that it's a iBook, PowerBook, or G3/G4/G5 Apple Desktop | 17:30 |
| brokenfingers | On my PBG4 the Precise PPC image has some trouble but still boots | 17:31 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: Probably but not definitely and which one - I mean the not a typewriter could be a red herring, it might not be why it's failing to boot | 17:31 |
| penguin42 | it could be a graphics problem | 17:31 |
| brokenfingers | penguin42: But wouldn't it just resort to low graphics mode? | 17:32 |
| brokenfingers | Even on my original 1998 iMac, Precise boots fine | 17:32 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: That's what's supposed to happen if X can't start - but anything can break; still either way it's best to find out exactly what hardware he's using; then we can see if it's PPC is broken on everything or PPC IS broken on :this set of hardware: | 17:33 |
| brokenfingers | penguin42: Hmmm... Probably just his set | 17:34 |
| penguin42 | only one way to find out! | 17:36 |
| brokenfingers | Oh! got it! the ubuntu qa website has it... hold on... | 17:36 |
| brokenfingers | penguin42: His system: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/specs/powerbook_g4_1.67_15_hr.html | 17:37 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: OK, make sure it gets added to the bug report to say it's broken on that hardware - if it's only that hardware; I'd edit the title to something like [ppc: powerbook g4] Live image won't boot.... | 17:38 |
| brokenfingers | Will do | 17:39 |
| penguin42 | what does the qa site have to say? | 17:39 |
| brokenfingers | It just gives a link to that site, and says related bugs: only this one :) | 17:41 |
| penguin42 | oh well | 17:41 |
| brokenfingers | I only commented 15 hrs ago, so I'll give him time to respond. | 17:42 |
| brokenfingers | penguin42: do you know what "typewriter" refers to? I'm clueless (as always) :) | 17:44 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: Basically a terminal like device; I'm surprised it says typewriter, it normally says teletype | 17:45 |
| brokenfingers | strange. is he using a version that already had it's EOL? | 17:46 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: A lot of the unix console/terminal goes back to the days of teletypes - basically a keyboard input and printer wired together over serial; and there are quite a few things to do with setting the rates and styles of terminal; lots of commands work with that in particular the stty command | 17:46 |
| brokenfingers | Oh, so magbe it's a peripheral issue? | 17:47 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: No | 17:47 |
| brokenfingers | oh. | 17:47 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: You normally see that error when you've got scripts that get run on login/startup and are normally connected to a console/terminal but are run from somewhere else for some odd reason; however it's not necessarily why the boot stops - it might just be output by something quirky in the boot scripts but be unrelated to the hang | 17:49 |
| brokenfingers | Oh, so its waiting for something that's never going to happen | 17:50 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: You don't have enough information from that error to know | 17:51 |
| brokenfingers | But I thought almost noone used stty anymore, does ubuntu use it? | 17:51 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: stty is still used in setup scripts behind the scenes a bit | 17:51 |
| brokenfingers | penguin42: Can I get dependencies.txt with no-boot? | 17:51 |
| penguin42 | I don't know what you mean? | 17:52 |
| brokenfingers | I mean, is thre a way to collect Apport info w/o a GUI or full Terminal/Console | 17:53 |
| penguin42 | no, if it's not booted you can't really collect the normal stuff | 17:54 |
| brokenfingers | Ugh. | 17:54 |
| brokenfingers | What a mess is there a way to get anythin helpful? | 17:55 |
| penguin42 | depends why it's unhappy | 17:55 |
| * LordOfTime peeks in | 17:55 | |
| LordOfTime | whats up now? | 17:55 |
| brokenfingers | Well, depends how far it got booting. | 17:56 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: If it got far enough it might have left some logs in /var/log on the hard drive, if not then you might be able to do some form of recovery boot or pass different kernel options so you can see more debug | 17:56 |
| penguin42 | oh | 17:57 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: Actually, this is live cd - it won't have left any logs anywhere | 17:57 |
| brokenfingers | Is there an alternitive? | 17:57 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: So the only chance is to change boot flags (if the livecd has a recovery/failsafe option) to make the kernel not hide the boot process, I think upstart also has some debug flags but I don't know them | 17:58 |
| brokenfingers | I'll look them up...... | 17:58 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: Debugging boot process is a bit of a black art until it gets far enough to give you a shell where you can poke about | 17:58 |
| brokenfingers | Yah... | 17:59 |
| brokenfingers | This what I found: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/7033/1/ | 18:01 |
| brokenfingers | May bee he can run --verbose a boot?? | 18:03 |
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| brokenfingers | bug 541438 Is this ready for triaging? | 19:12 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 541438 in apt ""apt-get purge" Selects another package when the requested package is not installed, but is provided by another package." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541438 | 19:12 |
| njin | penguin42, hello again, testing today's amd64build i've got LZMA data is corrupt, then VFS: Cannot open root device "(null)" or unknown-block(0,0): error -6 | 19:37 |
| njin | ....., kernel panic | 19:37 |
| njin | do you suggest to report a bug against Linux or not ? | 19:37 |
| njin | to me is not clear that LZMA data corrupt what is | 19:38 |
| jtaylor | lzma is a compression algorithm | 19:39 |
| jtaylor | probably a corrupted file somewhere | 19:39 |
| jtaylor | I suggest you check your files before filing a bug | 19:39 |
| njin | md5 sum match, so probably is a bug in casper | 19:40 |
| hggdh | just a comment: we run daily ISOs, well, daily. Results are always available at https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Quantal/view/ISO%20Testing%20Dashboard/ | 20:48 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: I assume you mean August 25th 201*2* | 23:08 |
| brokenfingers | Oh- pffff YES! Sorry. | 23:08 |
| brokenfingers | penguin42: Do you like th eidea? | 23:09 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: I don't know I've not looked at hugdays | 23:09 |
| brokenfingers | Mmmmmm. They're pretty fun, from what I've heard. | 23:10 |
| penguin42 | how do bug importances work on ubiquity for installer crashes? | 23:12 |
| brokenfingers | What do you mean? | 23:13 |
| penguin42 | well, to me a reliable installer crash is crticial - but doesn't that mean most ubiquity bugs get marked critical | 23:14 |
| penguin42 | this one has a workaround, but it involves uninstalling a package | 23:15 |
| brokenfingers | Oh. Well for Quantal They are less important because It's not intended for installation for the public | 23:15 |
| penguin42 | ? | 23:15 |
| brokenfingers | penguin42: what bug # | 23:16 |
| penguin42 | bug 989968 | 23:16 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 989968 in ubiquity "**CRITICAL** Unable to create '/root/cache/dconf'; dconf will not work properly." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/989968 | 23:16 |
| penguin42 | I was going to mark it as critical, but I'm not sure - you'd end up with most stuff in ubuiquity ending up as critical which would be odd | 23:16 |
| brokenfingers | OH. Its Precise. I know what you mean, better mark it as High coz it has a workaround. | 23:17 |
| penguin42 | it's not a very nice workaround | 23:18 |
| brokenfingers | But it can be easily patched. | 23:19 |
| brokenfingers | All need to do is remove slideshow or a script that decides | 23:19 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: yeh, although it's a bit tricky for a new user | 23:19 |
| brokenfingers | Mmmmm... Then iguess it should be critical | 23:20 |
| penguin42 | heck, I've set it as high now - hohum | 23:20 |
| penguin42 | I guess that leaves critical for nukes other existing stuff on the disk :-) | 23:20 |
| brokenfingers | Even other people agree - hence the ***CRITICAL*** :) | 23:20 |
| brokenfingers | High is good tho | 23:22 |
| brokenfingers | penguin42: bug 813134 Well If Installer failure is High, why is this Critical? And the asignee has had 2 month, no patch/fix/workaround. | 23:45 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 813134 in ubiquity "[DATALOSS] ubiquity overwrites luks-formatted device without warning" [Critical,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/813134 | 23:45 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: Critical because it loses the data that's already there - that's even worse than not installing something extra | 23:49 |
| brokenfingers | Ah. I see what you mean, do I just leave it alone? Let it expire? | 23:50 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: I thought that had been fixed though, I remember that bug - but then it makes me wonder why it got set to incomplete | 23:50 |
| penguin42 | brokenfingers: Yeh, it's got an assignee, let them deal with it | 23:50 |
| brokenfingers | Ok. | 23:50 |
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