[00:00] <Beta2K> kosko: wrapper it
[00:00] <escott> kosko, what is your alias line? and why would you need to alias vim?
[00:00] <escott> kosko, rather nice vim
[00:01] <Yago> ok
[00:01] <Aethrs> 98% of my Ubuntu use is LTS server installs, so I haven't actually seen the "new" gui in quite a while.
[00:02] <halakar> hmm, i could use a little more informaton
[00:02] <haryv> what kind of services can i turn off for my zoneminder frame rate to pickup?
[00:02] <halakar> like...can i boot from the 12.04LTS CD and enter some sort of "boot repair" mode?
[00:03] <escott> halakar, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[00:03] <halakar> escott, I think I need this:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/files/
[00:04] <escott> halakar, i think you should read the documentation and follow the step by step instructions we linked you to. but feel free to ignore us
[00:04] <halakar> escott, I'm not ignoring you.  Your instructions say use boot-repair.  The link I found is of 5-30.  Problem?
[00:06] <escott> halakar, "of 5-30"??
[00:06] <halakar> escott, yes.
[00:06] <escott> halakar, what does that mean
[00:06] <halakar> Okay....we're in june now.  June is the 6th month in the year
[00:06] <Blackshirt> What the mean of number on dmesg's output?
[00:06] <halakar> an iso published on 5-30 would mean..... ?
[00:07] <kosko> can a user be given an ability to nice with negative value?
[00:07] <escott> halakar, if you want to do it the graphical way then "insert your ubuntu cd" reboot and choose "try ubuntu"
[00:08] <MCl0vin> howdy folks
[00:08] <escott> halakar, unless you want to make the disk, but if you have an ubuntu disk that seems like more effort than it is worth. so go to 2 and run the two commands "sudo add-apt-repository ..." and "sudo apt-get install ..."
[00:08] <halakar> escott, I am downloading the boot-repair iso now and will not be using the ubuntu disc.
[00:09] <MCl0vin> reisio, dude , like you said no were on the net i was able to find anything that will make my wmv to work on any unix/apple platform
[00:09] <Sofia> I fresh-installed 12.04, but I kept my home directory from my previous 10.4 install. Now the gnome-terminal hangs and has no cursor. I found a few bug listings, but no solutions so far. Any thoughts?
[00:09] <ooltra-out> hey, i remember there being a netbook version of ubuntu, does that no longer exsist?
[00:10] <escott> Blackshirt, seconds since boot
[00:10] <escott> kosko, up to -10 for without root privs is normally allowed
[00:10] <MCl0vin> reisio, my best best is to convert them , like you preceded and suggested :)
[00:10] <halakar> i mean good god, man
[00:11] <krycheq> just got a brand new Asus eee 1025c and am having some video troubles with 12.04 - is this the right chan to ask for assistance?
[00:11] <MCl0vin> but how do i do that
[00:11] <Blackshirt> Escott , number between [ ] sign ?
[00:11] <ooltra-out> hey, does anyone know if there is a ubuntu platform for netbooks like there was in the past? or is it all not just under desktop?
[00:11] <escott> Blackshirt, yes. seconds since boot
[00:11] <MCl0vin> krycheq, what issues
[00:12] <kosko> escott: -5 permission denied
[00:12] <Yago> Hey guys
[00:12] <krycheq> starts fine but I can only get 800x600 resolution even tho I know the display will do 1200x600
[00:12] <Yago> I have a question
[00:12] <MCl0vin> krycheq, like you are not able to install 12.04 or are you getting black screen , etc
[00:12] <Yago> I have a question about removing my ubuntu dual boot
[00:12] <escott> kosko, who are you?
[00:13] <kosko> escott: excuse me?
[00:13] <MCl0vin> anyone recommend a good video converter
[00:13] <Blackshirt> Thanks escott
[00:13] <escott> kosko, i meant what is your uid? what groups are you in? but it seems you are correct you cannot increase priority
[00:14] <Yago> Can anyone help me
[00:14] <Yago> Im confused about the next step I should take
[00:14] <Sofia> MCl0vin: Single video or batches?
[00:14] <kosko> escott: so even if i'll have the root user group i wouldn't be able to set a negative nice
[00:14] <MCl0vin> Sofia, a batch
[00:14] <Sofia> MCl0vin: For single videos I do alright with VLC.
[00:15] <Sofia> Ah. You've got me, then.
[00:15] <kosko> escott: CAP_SYS_NICE capability is supposed to do this
[00:15] <escott> kosko, root can certainly do it. for other users you would need to modify the config in /etc
[00:15] <MirkoKa> Yago: You go into the backery and say "I have a question about your bread". What will they say? Right, they'll say "What question?!
[00:15] <MCl0vin> Sofia, well VLC is not reading my format thats why i want to convert them
[00:15] <kosko> escott: not yet know how to set it
[00:15] <Yago> MirkoKa: sorry I have that bad habit, formed by school
[00:16] <Yago> Ok, I was told to remove the Ubuntu repositories by downloading the gparted iso and burning it to a cd
[00:16] <Yago> then I was told to come back here after wards and ask for more help
[00:16] <Yago> so my question is: what is the next step i should take?
[00:16] <tuxgeek> repositeries or partition?
[00:17] <dyingloop> I have an AMD Phenom quad core mobile processcor p920 x64...what copy of ubuntu should I choose?
[00:17] <Yago> partition, sorry
[00:17] <dyingloop> ubuntu amd64?
[00:17] <escott> kosko, presumably /etc/security
[00:17] <MCl0vin> is there is something called ffmg or ffmpg something like that?
[00:17] <Blackshirt> Dyingloop, i think yes
[00:18] <tuxgeek> have you made the boot cd?
[00:18] <dyingloop> I am about to make one
[00:18] <Yago> Yes sir
[00:18] <dyingloop> rather use an usb to double check if all my hardware is compatible first
[00:18] <tuxgeek> ok boot it
[00:18] <Yago> tuxgeek: wait, to me or dyingloop
[00:18] <Sofia> Weird development on my gnome-terminal issue. I can actually type commands into it and they execute. I just can't _see_ what I'm typing or the text output.
[00:18] <Yago> ?
[00:18] <dyingloop> would it tell you if it's the wrong architecture?
[00:18] <halakar> escott, those directions you posted are garbage anyway.  there's nothing in a live environment even called boot-repair.  you can't even find it in the package manager.  absolute garbage.
[00:18] <tuxgeek> Yago: You!
[00:19] <Yago> oh ok
[00:19] <dyingloop> oops!
[00:19] <Yago> got confused
[00:19] <dyingloop> sorry
[00:19] <escott> kosko, this link may help http://superuser.com/questions/40429/how-do-i-run-pulseaudio-with-realtime-priority-in-ubuntu-9-04
[00:19] <dyingloop> Me too
[00:19] <kosko> escott: i see this info in the limits.conf file
[00:19] <escott> halakar, you have to run the add-apt-repo command first
[00:19] <dyingloop> thanks Black
[00:19] <dyingloop> thanks Blackshirt
[00:20] <halakar> that's nowhere in the instructions on the wiki.
[00:20] <mattwj2002> hi guys wow do I have an odd question
[00:20] <tuxgeek> Yago: just delete the ubuntu partition
[00:20] <Yago> will windows boot up afterwards?
[00:20] <halakar> i just type in add-apt-repo?  Need specifics if i am going to succeed.
[00:20] <tuxgeek> yesA
[00:20] <escott> halakar, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair "2nd option : install Boot-Repair in Ubuntu"
[00:20] <tuxgeek> yes!
[00:20] <mattwj2002> I need a program to check if a purchased used dvd or cd is good
[00:20] <Yago> k thank-you. Ill try it and report back
[00:20] <Yago> thanks
[00:20] <mattwj2002> that runs in linux
[00:20] <tuxgeek> np
[00:21] <MCl0vin> wtf .. can someone please go to google and type "how to convert wnv to mp4 in ubuntu and open the first result....it crasheds FF every single time
[00:21] <Jordan_U> mattwj2002: Define "good".
[00:21] <halakar> i'm only 15 mins left on boot repair
[00:21] <halakar> on the iso,
[00:21] <mattwj2002> ummm plays without errors
[00:21] <Luceo> mattwj2002: vlc :P
[00:21] <halakar> i mean, i should probably just wait for that to complete if adding the repo and downloading is going to take the same amount of time, no ?
[00:21] <mattwj2002> without watch or listening to the whole thing
[00:21] <mattwj2002> :P
[00:21] <mattwj2002> *watching
[00:21] <MCl0vin> anyone please
[00:22] <escott> halakar, it gives you 4 different methods you can use to reinstall grub. you are welcome to use whichever one you want
[00:22] <halakar> jesus
[00:22] <MCl0vin> URL: http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&channel=fe&client=browser-ubuntu&q=hw+to+convert+wmv+to+mp4+in+ubuntu&hl=en
[00:22] <Luceo> MCl0vin: No crash for me, running firefox aurora
[00:23] <Sofia> MCl0vin: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CF0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ehow.com%2Fhow_6121038_convert-wmv-mp4-ubuntu.html&ei=2lzJT5eiCcPDgQe5jInBDg&usg=AFQjCNHjBXDToOPqlyeNHy70PsxJerwNxg&sig2=LGXrFxJBUjrBXBt-RHOBzA
[00:23] <Sofia> Ack
[00:23] <Sofia> Excuse the long URL
[00:23] <HelloWorld321> I think I'm going to need to do a fresh install.  This happens every time I try to do an update.  I have an old on-board video adapter.  I tried to upgrade to Precise Pangolin last weekend.
[00:23] <MirkoKa> MCl0vin: you do know that the times where google presented the same result to different people are over, don't you?
[00:23] <Jordan_U> halakar: For restoring grub from a liveCD I highly recommend this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot which I sent you earlier.
[00:23] <Luceo> MCl0vin: http://paste2.org/p/2042664 Content in text-only form
[00:24] <kosko> after i changed /etc/security/limits.conf  what should i run to make it in effect
[00:24] <halakar> Jordan_U, all I did was slap windows 8 on an empty partition.  it destroyed grub.  blah
[00:24] <halakar> Jordan_U, are you saying this "boot-repair" with the "recommended repair" option won't fix ?
[00:24] <escott> kosko, i have no idea. rebooting would certainly force it to be reread
[00:24] <MCl0vin> MirkoKa, what do you mean , no i don't?
[00:24] <Jordan_U> halakar: That's exactly what I would expect.
[00:25] <Sofia> Does anyone have any tips for my gnome-terminal with no visible cursor/text in the window?
[00:25] <kosko> source maybe?
[00:25] <Luceo> halakar: Just reinstall grub o.O
[00:25] <delac> mattwj2002:  read the dvd or cd as image to the hard disk twice, take md5sum from each image and compare. if both reads give same md5sum it means that the disks are propably fine as both reads gave the same result (e.g. no scratch errors)
[00:25] <halakar> Jordan_U, yeah, well I had heard rumors that Windows 8 was intelligent enough to not destroy everything and add an entry in its OWN bootloader for Ubuntu.
[00:25] <Luceo> delac: If the DVD is foobar, surely both images will be foobar exactly the same
[00:25] <escott> kosko, its not a shell script. it is read by some userspace program which injects the rules into the kernel
[00:25] <Luceo> So the hashes will match
[00:25] <Jordan_U> halakar: It probably will, but I prefer to know the actual commands being run rather than trusting an automated process I'm not familiar with. I know that the guide I sent you works.
[00:26] <halakar> I agree..
[00:26] <HelloWorld321> After trying to upgrade to Precise Pangolin, now when I boot, I get this message "The system is rnning in low-graphics mode.  Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly.  You will need to configure these yourself"  I can ssh in just fine, but I have trouble seeing/using the desktop.
[00:26] <rpdmatt> anyone know why ubuntu 12.04 would be reading my dual monitors as a single 'laptop' monitor with screen res of 3840x1080?
[00:26] <mattwj2002> so no help?
[00:26] <delac> Luceo: if there are scratches, they will most likely cause different kind of read results, witchs causes different md5sums
[00:26] <rpdmatt> it should be two monitors at 1080p
[00:26] <mattwj2002> oops sorry
[00:27] <Luceo> delac: Is that from experience or speculation? I don't see why scratches in the same place would cause different read issues
[00:27] <mattwj2002> I thought I had a problem a long time ago
[00:27] <mattwj2002> I can't remember what it is
[00:27] <HelloWorld321> How do I configure my screen, video card, and input device from ssh?
[00:27] <MirkoKa> MCl0vin: google works differently today. the same query done by you and me can (and most probably will) show very different results. telling people to google for "foo bar somehting" and tell them to look at result 3 doesn't work anymore
[00:28] <Jordan_U> mattwj2002: You could try reading the entire DVD (from /dev/sr0) and checking for read errors. Unfortunately many commercial DVDs *purposefully* insert incorrect hashes to cause read errors, so the test would always fail on those even if they were "good".
[00:28] <halakar> i have a feeling i'm about to destroy everything here, i chose the recommended option....now i'm waiting for it to do something.
[00:28] <Luceo> HelloWorld321: Which GPU is it?
[00:28] <delac> Luceo: that method is used by many cd check programs
[00:28] <HelloWorld321> It's an on-board nVidia chip (on the mobo)
[00:28] <Luceo> HelloWorld321: Should be able to use nvidias tool to auto gen xorg.conf
[00:29] <kosko> exit
[00:29] <MCl0vin> MirkoKa, ahhh i didn't know that :)
[00:29] <HelloWorld321> Tx Luceo
[00:29] <cheako> Hello, does any one use Overlayfs for /usr or anything?  I'm having an issue where mount dosn't like the device name.
[00:29] <halakar> It worked.  Well, I've booted Windows 8 anyway.  Rebooting to see if my ubuntu still works.  Good grief
[00:30] <mattwj2002> guys what do you think of this?
[00:30] <mattwj2002> http://freecode.com/projects/cdck
[00:30] <halakar> OK, back in business
[00:30] <halakar> thanks guise
[00:33] <curiousx> aloha all
[00:33] <curiousx> *wind sounds*
[00:38] <Chuck_Norris> !ot | Chuck_Norris
[00:38] <dannel> where are the newbs
[00:39] <Yago> !ot | Yago
[00:43] <Bulletrulz> help i cant install and virtual systems in virtual box
[00:43] <Bulletrulz> virtualbox wont work?
[00:44] <escott> !details | Bulletrulz
[00:44] <Bulletrulz> ok look i treid to install android and
[00:44] <Bulletrulz> The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing
[00:44] <Bulletrulz> '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'
[00:44] <Bulletrulz> as root. If it is available in your distribution, you should install the DKMS package first. This package keeps track of Linux kernel changes and recompiles the vboxdrv kernel module if necessary.
[00:44] <FloodBot1> Bulletrulz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:44] <Bulletrulz> sorry flood
[00:45] <escott> Bulletrulz, so you are trying to run android inside vbox? WHY?
[00:46] <Bulletrulz> escott idk i dont have a android phone and wana do stuff
[00:47] <Bulletrulz> anyway how to fix it
[00:47] <escott> Bulletrulz, http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/emulator.html
[00:47] <Chuck_Norris> Bulletrulz: sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[00:48] <MCl0vin> ok, goodbye ubuntu ...i am switching to windows
[00:48] <dyingloop> what's the command to enable wireless?
[00:48] <dyingloop> on ubuntu
[00:48] <dyingloop> i can't seem to do it physically
[00:48] <escott> dyingloop, depends on how it is disabled. rfkill?
[00:49] <Chuck_Norris> dyingloop: sudo ifconfig <wirles interface> up
[00:49] <escott> dyingloop, its possible that if you booted windows and then disabled the wireless card through some acpi call that linux doesnt know, then the only way to reenable the transmitter might be through windows
[00:50] <dyingloop> well no windows on this puppy
[00:50] <Chuck_Norris> dyingloop: puppy has a settup wizard for that
[00:50] <Chuck_Norris> and /j #puppy
[00:50] <Jordan_U> dyingloop: What happens when you try to connect to a wireless network via network manager?
[00:51] <dyingloop> heh by puppy i meant my laptop
[00:51] <dyingloop> well nothing
[00:51] <Chuck_Norris> oh!
[00:51] <dyingloop> it won't even acknowledge that i have wireless
[00:51] <MCl0vin> use windows alot easier
[00:51] <Jordan_U> dyingloop: OK, has it recognised your wireless card in the past?
[00:51] <dyingloop> it hasn't
[00:52] <dyingloop> i was trying to enable it first
[00:52] <Jordan_U> dyingloop: Do you know what chipset your wireless car uses?
[00:52] <dyingloop> or is it the other way around?
[00:52] <dyingloop> yes
[00:52] <dyingloop> Realtek  RTL8191SEvB
[00:52] <dyingloop> I am using live cd to see if i can find the drivers firs
[00:52] <escott> dyingloop, the other way around. sudo lshw -C network should list your network cards
[00:52] <dyingloop> t
[00:52] <Yago> I have a problem where gparted is having troubles booting up
[00:53] <Jordan_U> dyingloop: You don't normally have to "enable" wireless. It usually Just Works™ .
[00:53] <Bulletrulz> um i rather use virtualbox
[00:53] <dyingloop> ah gotcha escott
[00:53] <Bulletrulz> i guess ill just use wine
[00:53] <Yago> Does anyone know how I could boot up gparted, i think its a graphics  issue
[00:53] <escott> Yago, gparted is an application. gparted doesnt "boot" what are you trying to boot
[00:53] <Yago> escott: i have it on a live cd and i booted it
[00:53] <Jordan_U> dyingloop: Ralink cards are notoriously difficult with Linux. Is using a different wireless card an option?
[00:53] <escott> Yago, so you booted the normal livecd, and selected try ubuntu. then what
[00:54] <Bulletrulz> when i try to install anything i get this Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[00:54] <Bulletrulz>  'Lubuntu 12.04 _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386 (20120423)'
[00:54] <Bulletrulz> in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter
[00:54] <Yago> escott: no, i booted it solo ... as in there is no OS booted up
[00:54] <escott> Yago, gparted is an application. it is NOT an OS. what did you boot?
[00:54] <Bulletrulz> i need heko
[00:55] <Chuck_Norris> Bulletrulz: virtualbox says that?
[00:55] <Jordan_U> Yago: If you're using the GParted LiveCD then this is the wrong channel to ask in. This is the support channel for Ubuntu only.
[00:55] <Bulletrulz> no everything!
[00:55] <escott> Yago, what is the link to the thing that you downloaded and burned?
[00:55] <Yago> Jordan_U: oh, i was told to by someone in ehere
[00:55] <dyingloop> i was able to get lucky last time Jordan_U, so figured I should at least give it a try...My back up plan is this...supposedly it is linux compatible and dirt cheap
[00:55] <dyingloop> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10308&cs_id=1050108&p_id=8072&seq=1&format=2
[00:55] <Yago> escott: gparted.sourceforge
[00:55] <Bulletrulz> termnianal,softwarecenter,etc
[00:55] <Yago> .com
[00:55] <Yago> or .net
[00:55] <dyingloop> It did take me a whole month though Jordan_U lol
[00:56] <dyingloop> and two clean installations...but
[00:56] <dyingloop> i just don't have that patience this time
[00:56] <escott> Yago, so to echo Jordan_U thats not an ubuntu product. not the right channel for issues with it. but gparted is on the livecd, so just boot your install CD select "try ubuntu" and then you can use gparted
[00:56] <HelloWorld321> I think my problem is that I need to ppa-purge
[00:56] <Yago> escott: oh so i have to burn another live cd with ubuntu on it?
[00:56] <escott> Yago, if you want help in this channel you need to be using ubuntu in some form
[00:57] <Bulletrulz> 'chuck everything does
[00:57] <MirkoKa> MCl0vin: don't confuse accustoms with easiness. anyway, your choice, good by then :-)
[00:57] <kn100`> every time I run apt it tries to install java. How can i tell it to stop it
[00:57] <Yago> escott: I am, the original problem was attempting to remove ubuntu from a dual boot
[00:57] <kn100`> output
[00:57] <dyingloop> btw escott that command gave me "Network Disabled"
[00:57] <Jordan_U> Yago: In fact looking at the scrollback you were given terrible advice. Just deleting your Ubuntu partition would have left you unable to boot Ubuntu *or* Windows from the hard drive.
[00:57] <Yago> escott: and someone told me to burn gparted, boot up with it and remove the partition
[00:57] <Yago> Jordan_U: really?
[00:57] <escott> Yago, so do you have your original install media for ubuntu. b/c you can use that
[00:57] <Yago> thank God I didnt
[00:57] <escott> !paste | dyingloop use that
[00:58] <Yago> escott: no nor do I have for Windows either
[00:58] <Yago> Jordan_U: what should I do?
[00:58] <xisorshadow> can anyone help me edit or create a custom X session? editing an existing one is preferred
[00:58] <escott> Yago, first you need to boot windows and reinstall the windows bootloader. it used to be "fixmbr" i dont know if thats still correct
[00:58] <kn100`> http://pastebin.com/JvJuvJ05 < output of any time I run apt-get install
[00:59] <xisorshadow> i want to edit the xbmc session and add chromium browser to it as well, so it loads it in the background
[00:59] <Yago> escott: ok is that a program?
[00:59] <dyingloop> Here you go www.paste.ubuntu.com/1018861/
[00:59] <escott> Yago, it is/was a windows command. i wouldn't trust me that its correct. i dont use windows
[00:59] <Yago> ok
[01:00] <Jordan_U> Yago: Please get an Ubuntu liveCD (preferably Ubuntu 12.04) and come back when you have that. Basically, you need to first install an MS style MBR via the utility "install-mbr" then check that Windows boots (with no grub menu), then delete the Ubuntu partition and resize the Windows partition (making sure not to change the starting sector of the Windows partition).
[01:00] <Yago> ok ill burn a cd :) be right back in a long while
[01:00] <Jordan_U> Yago: I will be away for a few minutes and available in and out after that, but I am here so just be patient and I will reply eventually.
[01:01] <Yago> thank-you
[01:01] <tbrown2012fb> I want to know how to install updates on Ubuntu. I installed a low minimum iso and I can install things like sudo apt-get install and sudo apt-get update but not upgrade
[01:01] <escott> Jordan_U, is install-mbr a windows command?
[01:01] <Jordan_U> escott: No.
[01:02] <Jordan_U> escott: sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe && sudo apt-get install mbr && sudo install-mbr /dev/sda #Replace "/dev/sda" with your disk drive, and *not* a partition like /dev/sda1
[01:02] <Yago> ok I am downloading the iso from this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[01:02] <escott> Jordan_U, yeah. i was just wondering if it had replaced fixmbr on the windows side. i dont know what the windows mbr command is anymore
[01:02] <escott> Yago, no you dont want that
[01:03] <Yago> no?
[01:03] <escott> Yago, you want this http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[01:03] <Yago> im not downloading wubi
[01:03] <Yago> im using the other link
[01:03] <xisorshadow> anyone know anything about X sessions?
[01:03] <Yago> ok
[01:03] <escott> Yago, you are downloading Wubi. that thing you are looking at is wubi
[01:03] <Yago> that one is quicker
[01:04] <Yago> escott: oh, there was another link on that page that wasn't an exe
[01:04] <Yago> this link is quicker though
[01:05] <escott> Yago, ok i see the confusion. you were using the thing at the bottom not at the top. thats the same as the link i sent you
[01:05] <Yago> ok
[01:05] <EMPHASIS> Hi, I've got a LAN at home on a router, but Internet is via a USB modem on my laptop.  When I plug in the LAN(Ethernet) I lose the Internet (e.g. 404 on google.com).  Help, anyone?
[01:05] <escott> Yago, so the top of my link or the bottom of your link should be fine. but you should be downloading a 700MB iso file
[01:05] <escott> Yago, not an EXE
[01:05] <Yago> yeah
[01:05] <Yago> I already have the exe on my Desktop, ill be trying that out later...
[01:05] <dyingloop> Jordan_U:
[01:06] <Yago> so Im gonna remove a dual boot and install wubi afterwards
[01:06] <dyingloop> I installed ndiswrapper
[01:06] <escott> tbrown2012fb, what do you mean you cant apt-get upgrade
[01:06] <dyingloop> I was also able to locate the drivers from realtek website
[01:06] <xisorshadow> anbody know anything about X sessions?
[01:07] <dyingloop> It's asking for inf file
[01:07] <xangua> !anyone | xisorshadow
[01:07] <escott> Yago, i would personally discourage that. i dont like the way wubi is structured. i think you are better off with dual boot or vbox, but not this weird wubi halfway house
[01:07] <dyingloop> Where is this inf file located?
[01:07] <xisorshadow> xangua, that was completely irrelevant, i DID ask a question
[01:07] <mcored> hey guys by default ubuntu only created two partitions / and swap and i am wondering in the future if there is a chance to add /boot and /home support with recommended sizes in teh installer :)
[01:08] <djglobalbot> hi. I think I have a problem with locales on a ubuntu server, I am getting odd chacaters in my console session. i've tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales and sudo apt-get install --reinstall locales with no avail
[01:08] <mcored> starting with windows 7 we all know M$ allocate 100 MiB to system boot partition
[01:08] <escott> mcored, you can do a custom partitioning in the installer, but what you have is the default
[01:08] <Yago> escott: Yeah, but the people who use the computer are not big Ubuntu fans and I want something thats easy to remove in any circumstance.
[01:09] <xangua> mcored: you can do that by yourself, just an extra pair of steps
[01:09] <escott> Yago, vbox would meet that "easy to remove" standard, and you have the benefits of a virtualized system (assuming your hardware is decent)
[01:09] <tbrown2012fb> escott: I dont know I installed the minimal iso or something and know am trying to get the sudo apt-get upgrade to work but I dont think it working:(
[01:09] <mcored> yeah escott i just wished the installer had a simple algorithm to set a minimum /boot partition
[01:09] <mcored> how much do you think /boot would require?
[01:09]  * gohkesh farts
[01:09] <Yago> escott: thats the problem, my hardware is far from decent, http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx240/en/ug/specs.htm
[01:10] <Yago> and Win XP
[01:10] <escott> mcored, most people dont need /boot. so.... in any case i set mine to 1GB because that way i never have to worry about it filling up. at 100MB it fills up every 6months with old kernels and i have to go in and remove them
[01:10] <escott> tbrown2012fb, what does it say when you run sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:10] <mcored> ok thank you escott
[01:11] <mcored> after installed ubuntu i dont thikn there is any chance to do anythign now...
[01:11] <dyingloop> Can somebody help me extract the .inf file?
[01:11] <xisorshadow> i need help finding and editing an x session file
[01:11] <escott> mcored, you could do a bunch of repartitioning, but why do you want a /boot in the first place?
[01:11] <mcored> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25501373/ShareXmod/2012-06/02/091110-Kitchen-PC_(671_340_072)_-_TeamViewer_-_Free_license_(n.jpg is my ubuntu server for Deluge and Quassel :D
[01:11] <djglobalbot> hello #ubuntu I have a problem with locales on a ubuntu server, I am getting odd characters in my console session. i've tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales and sudo apt-get install --reinstall locales with no avail
[01:12] <mcored> for recovery purposes escott but not really needed for me. but i woudl like /home at least
[01:12] <escott> mcored, id rather keep a usb keychain handy than try to recover from within an initrd
[01:12] <tbrown2012fb> escott: When I do the sudo apt-get update it does it and when I do sudo apt-get upgrade it says reading packages list .. Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded 0 newly installed 0 to remove 0 not upgraded.
[01:12] <JustSighDUdes> So I locked a screen session and it wants a password to unlock. I do all my authentication with ssh keys. What gives?
[01:13] <escott> tbrown2012fb, ok. so whats the problem?
[01:13] <xangua> tbrown2012fb: because there are no updates to install
[01:13] <mcored> btw i noticed with ubuntu after it goes to screensaver, and i try to type my password to get back to the desktop, the keyboard keys wouldnt work, using the mouse i would have to go switch user, the screen refreshes and after that i can use the keyboard again
[01:13] <Jordan_U> dyingloop: USB wireless dongles tend to have poor linux support, and I think currently none support wireless N for linux.
[01:13] <escott> JustSighDUdes, it should be your users password
[01:14] <escott> JustSighDUdes, what do you mean by "screen session"
[01:14] <dyingloop> what about this one Jordan_U http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10308&cs_id=1050108&p_id=8072&seq=1&format=2 ?
[01:14] <Jordan_U> dyingloop: Especially for Wireless N, if you can, go with an internal Atheros card.
[01:14] <tbrown2012fb> escott: it does not upgrade it lol there no upgrade to anything. When I update and then upgrade it does not upgrade why!!!!!!
[01:14] <tbrown2012fb> lol
[01:14] <dyingloop> that's a bit out of my budget
[01:14] <xisorshadow> tbrown2012fb, what are you trying to install specifically?
[01:15] <reisio> MCl0vin: maybe, but what you should actually do is tell your instructor that nowhere was it stated you had to purchase $200's worth of Microsoft Windows to take this class
[01:15] <escott> tbrown2012fb, there are no updated packages to install. your system is up to date for its release
[01:15] <xisorshadow> tbrown2012fb, upgrade only updates things that are already installed on the system
[01:15] <Bulletrulz> help
[01:15] <xisorshadow> tbrown2012fb, if you want to ADD things, thats a whole different matter
[01:15] <JustSighDUdes> escott: I don't have one. Screen session = cli screen. The actual application called screen. Like tmux
[01:15] <reisio> MCl0vin: and if you wanted to add a little icing on top, you could explain how h.264 MP4 + AAC is not only better supported than WMV, but more efficient
[01:15] <escott> tbrown2012fb, if you are running 10.04 and want to move up to 12.04 then thats a different command do-release-upgrade
[01:15] <tbrown2012fb> xisorshadow: Oh okay lol:) That why Your smart lol:)
[01:15] <Bulletrulz> i cant install anything i get a messege tellling to entera cd
[01:16] <xisorshadow> tbrown2012fb, what are you wanting to add?
[01:17] <tbrown2012fb> xisorshadow: No I was not being sarcastice you help me. That what you said make sense because I installed a minmale iso so I dont have alot of programs so lol:)
[01:17] <chrometiger> if I have my garmin gps connected through com/usb cable   what can I type to find out what it is connected as ?
[01:17] <Bulletrulz> is ANYONE GONNA HELP!]\
[01:17] <xisorshadow> tbrown2012fb, yes i understand that, are you trying to add specific programs?
[01:17] <JoseeAntonioR> !patience | Bulletrulz
[01:18] <JoseeAntonioR> Bulletrulz: How can I help you?
[01:18] <tbrown2012fb> Bulletrulz: Calm Down and do the happy dance:)
[01:18] <escott> JustSighDUdes, thats what i wanted to make sure. check the man page for /usr/bin/lock i guess?
[01:18] <dyingloop> okay apparently the drivers for my specific realtek card are hit or miss
[01:19] <dyingloop> meh
[01:19] <Bulletrulz> wheni try to install something i get a messege to insert my install dvd
[01:19] <dyingloop> i give up
[01:19] <escott> JustSighDUdes, http://serverfault.com/questions/169832/password-for-gnu-screen-lockscreen-command
[01:20] <escott> JustSighDUdes, you probably want to set a user password. open a new ssh session and run passed
[01:20] <escott> paswd
[01:20] <xisorshadow> can someone help me find and edit the xbmc X session file? i want to have it also launch chromium-browser so i can have a browser for my HTPC setup
[01:20] <xisorshadow> and have no idea where session files are stored in 12.04, or how to add things to them
[01:21] <JustSighDUdes> escott: Yeah, I figured it was gonna be something like that. I was looking for some sort of "undo lock" command.
[01:21] <JustSighDUdes> escott: Thanks.
[01:21] <tbrown2012fb> I got a hopo in my bathroom what do I do?
[01:21] <OerHeks> Bulletrulz, go into software sources, and disable the cdRom
[01:22] <Bulletrulz> oerhecks how?
[01:22] <chrometiger> how do I find what my garmin gps is mounted as/at  or if it even is ?
[01:23] <OerHeks> Bullet open softwarecentre, and see in the topmenu
[01:23] <escott> chrometiger, if it were mounted it would appear in "mount" but if it is usb connected lsusb would tell you some things
[01:23] <xisorshadow> can someone help me find and edit the xbmc X session file? i want to have it also launch chromium-browser so i can have a browser for my HTPC setup
[01:23] <xisorshadow> and have no idea where session files are stored in 12.04, or how to add things to them
[01:24] <Bulletrulz> oer ok
[01:24] <Yago> escott: ok i burned the disc
[01:24] <escott> Yago, so boot it, and select "try ubuntu"
[01:26] <Guest83323> nick chris
[01:27] <Guest83323> whats the command to change my name on an irc?
[01:27] <OerHeks> Guest8332
[01:27] <xisorshadow> Guest83323, you had it right, just put a / in front of it
[01:27] <xisorshadow> Guest83323, so /nick chris will work
[01:27] <OerHeks> Guest83323 maybe already registered
[01:27] <chris__> ahh...chris is taken already
[01:27] <zhanger> most common irc names are taken
[01:28] <chrometiger> escott: lsusb tells me nothing    i have a cable just for my garmin etrex   that is really a com port to usb cable    and is pluged into my usb port    but gpsbabel doesn't recognize the device
[01:28] <zhanger> better think of a clever alias
[01:28] <xisorshadow> hmm guess none of the 1500 people here know anything about X sessions =/
[01:28] <Yago> Ok
[01:28] <zhanger> xisorshadow i don't know much but did you check the config files under /etc/X11
[01:29] <zhanger> i see a directory called "Xsession.d"
[01:29] <xisorshadow> thats a file, but i need to edit one that already exists, and i dont know where it stores them
[01:30] <chris__> okay, I installed kvm installed(hypervisor/virtual os) because I was wanting to try out a bunch on desktop enviroments/distros and experment. However I found that on any os I install it uses fallback.
[01:30] <escott> Yago, when you have fully booted let me know
[01:30] <artemis12> xisorshadow: check /usr/share/xsessions
[01:30] <tbrown2012fb> One Problem I need to install the Ubuntu Store. I need sevear help:)
[01:30] <chris__> so gnome-shell does not look like gnome-shell, it looks like a crappy version of gnome-panel
[01:30] <Yago> ok, will do. The try ubuntu screen just came up now
[01:31] <xisorshadow> artemis12, tyvm!
[01:31] <escott> chris__, you would need some kind of guest additions. i doubt kvm has that, but vbox would
[01:31] <artemis12> np
[01:31] <xisorshadow> artemis12, dont suppose you know how to add a program to the session?
[01:31] <randomDude> using google chrome, alot of videos are using what looks like totem or something . i don't care what it is... it never lets me play the videos
[01:31] <slasher_> Hi there
[01:31] <artemis12> xisorshadow: in your display manager?
[01:31] <chris__> escott, is vbox virtualbox by oracle?
[01:31] <artemis12> that is, when you log in?
[01:32] <escott> chris__, yes
[01:32] <xisorshadow> artemis12, yes i want the xbmc session to load chromium-browser in the background
[01:32] <xisorshadow> so i can tab over to it
[01:32] <xisorshadow> but have nothing else loaded
[01:32] <zhanger> xisorshadow total guess add && chromium-browser to exec line
[01:33] <xisorshadow> ok ill try it, if it doesnt work i can always switch sessions and fix it right?
[01:33] <EMPHASIS> Anyone help with routing (or whatever?) - I've got a USB modem for the Internet, but when I plug in a LAN (Ethernet) cable, I "lose" the Internet........
[01:33] <limpc> hi guys
[01:33] <xisorshadow> brb
[01:33] <artemis12> xisorshadow: yes, try zhanger's suggestion
[01:33] <limpc> im trying to dd if=<image> of=/devs/sdc, where sdc is a SD card. it keeps saying it's readonly?
[01:33] <chris__> escott, then is there a way to hide gui programs? Id like the guestos hidden and startup at computer boot time.
[01:34] <limpc> it's unmounted and the 'lock' switch is off
[01:34] <Yago> escott: im fully booteed
[01:34] <randomDude> what is this and why is it happening  ? http://i.imgur.com/oRKd2.png
[01:34] <escott> chris__, the guest wouldn't start until you start it manually
[01:35] <EMPHASIS> randomDude - looks like you need the Flash plugin from Adobe...
[01:35] <limpc> anyone?  trying to copy image to a securedigital (SD) card. getting a 'read-only' error.
[01:35] <escott> Yago, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install mbr" then you can run install-mbr /dev/sda (i'm guessing that sda is correct but if you have one hard drive it should be)
[01:35] <chris__> escott, would it be possible to install virtualbox guest additions on kvm...Im assuming I cant
[01:36] <randomDude> EMPHASIS: google chrome is supposed to have it bundled in.
[01:36] <tbrown2012fb> how to install flash in sudo?
[01:36] <EMPHASIS> limpc - check the tiny switch on your SD card is set to unlock
[01:36] <escott> Yago, you could verify that by checking "sudo parted -l" and identifying what disk has the NTFS partition
[01:36] <limpc> EMPHASIS, it is unlocked
[01:36] <Yago> escott: ok... mbr is a non-existent package
[01:36] <escott> Yago, do NOT include the partition number in the "install-mbr /dev/sda" command just the disk label so "sda" not "sda1"
[01:37] <escott> !info mbr
[01:37] <chris__> tbrown2012fb, sudo apt-get install 'sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin'
[01:37] <randomDude> tbrown2012fb: you don't install flash "into" sudo... you install the "flash player install" with sudo helping you run "apt-get"
[01:37] <chris__> sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[01:38] <escott> Yago, run software-properties-gtk and make sure that "univer" is selected
[01:38] <escott> Yago, actually it doesnt even show up there. try "sudo apt-get update" and then try to install mbr
[01:38] <escott> chris__ no it would not work
[01:39] <xisorshadow> artemis12, it didnt work
[01:39] <xisorshadow> zhanger, didnt work
[01:39] <zhanger> hm
[01:39] <artemis12> adding chromium to the exec line didn't work? hm
[01:40] <chris__> I can use screen to hide terminal programs in the background...but what would I so I can hide gui programs. Example - I have gedit open and I ssh into my computer and I want to move the window over
[01:40] <zhanger> is there still the "startup applications" program
[01:40] <Yago> escott: still
[01:40] <zhanger> in 12.04
[01:40] <escott> Yago, are you online in the livecd?
[01:40] <Yago> yea
[01:40] <xisorshadow> artemis12, no, it launches whichever one is listed first, but not the other
[01:40] <xisorshadow> artemis12, which means the syntax is wrong
[01:41] <zhanger> well that was bash syntax
[01:41] <reisio> chris__: hrmm?
[01:42] <escott> Yago, does /etc/apt/sources.list not include "universe"
[01:42] <xisorshadow> zhanger well its not what works apparently
[01:42] <chris__> reisio, are you confused at what I am trying to do or are you puzzled on how to do it?
[01:42] <artemis12> xisorshadow: it should be one ampersand
[01:42] <xisorshadow> artemis12, ok
[01:42] <maheanuu> Good afternoon/evening everyone, I am having a couple of problems, I bought a new 500 GB hd  WD5000AAKX .  I formatted it FAT 32 and started moving files from my download folder to the drive for use in torrents.  I managed to get a half a dozen files started downloading thenm the drive went read onlyh?????   Any ideas?
[01:42] <xisorshadow> brb trying again
[01:43] <reisio> chris__: former of course :p
[01:43] <escott> maheanuu, bad drive?
[01:43] <maheanuu> escott,I hope not, I just took it out of the wrapper
[01:44] <limpc> anyone?  trying to copy image to a securedigital (SD) card. getting a 'read-only' error.
[01:44] <chris__> reisio, Im watching a video on one computer and I want to move the player to another computer.
[01:44] <escott> maheanuu, and before that the UPS guys were playing tackle football with the box it was in
[01:44] <limpc> sd card is not locked
[01:44] <Yago> escott: nope
[01:44] <reisio> limpc: what command, again?
[01:44] <limpc> dd
[01:44] <reisio> specific command
[01:45] <limpc> dd if=image.img of=/dev/sdc1
[01:45] <limpc> i also tried /dev/sdc
[01:45] <limpc> both say read-only
[01:45] <maheanuu> escott, I have 4 1.5 TB drives that have went south on me and I need to find a disk diagnostic tool to see if I can possibly save any of them
[01:45] <Saeryn> maheanuu Can you paste the dmesg in a pastefile?
[01:45] <oich> I am running 12.04 64bit on a laptop with AR8152 wireless adapter and RTL8188CE ethernet adapter. When I unplug my ethernet cable, the OS freezes and nothing is logged about the event, as far as I can tell (in syslog). Do you have any thoughts on how I can diagnose the problem and/or fix it?
[01:46] <escott> Yago, odd that they do that. but you can add a line. sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list copy one of the other lines but replace the bit after "precise" with "universe" and add it to the file
[01:46] <escott> maheanuu, the disk-utility gui or install smartmon-tools
[01:46] <maheanuu> I live in the middle of the South Pacific, abt 5000 miles from anywhere and the drives all have been good and I never had problems like this before
[01:47] <Saeryn> escott I wasn't aware SMART worked over USB?
[01:47] <Yago> escott: it says deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise universal
[01:47] <maheanuu> escott,I got the disk util in System and it sees the drive fine but doesn't tell me that it is read only
[01:48] <escott> maheanuu, follow up on Saeryn's suggestion and investigate dmesg, but with a disk fresh out of the wrapper and a simple FS like fat I would suspect it fell off the truck somewhere
[01:48] <limpc> reisio, ?
[01:48] <xisorshadow> artemis12, zhanger im dumb
[01:48] <artemis12> what happened?
[01:48] <escott> Saeryn, i didnt catch the usb bit. but i think its up to the usb adapter to decide if smart data can be passed across
[01:48] <xisorshadow> xbmc has an addon that will let me launch a program built into it >.<
[01:48] <maheanuu> I am running fat and not ntfs or the linux file system as I am the only user here on the island
[01:48] <xisorshadow> so i pointed it to /usr/bin/chromium-browser XD
[01:48] <escott> Yago, universe not universal?
[01:48] <xisorshadow> and it loads it
[01:49] <xisorshadow> and when i exit chrome xbmc loads back up
[01:49] <artemis12> ah, there you go.
[01:49] <xisorshadow> so i didnt need to mess with it at all
[01:49] <xisorshadow> :D
[01:49] <FloodBot1> xisorshadow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:49] <Saeryn> maheanuu is this via USB?
[01:49] <escott> Yago, so sudo apt-get update -- does it mention universe?
[01:49] <maheanuu> Yes
[01:49] <xisorshadow> was usr/bin/ the correct place to point it to? is that safe?
[01:49] <Saeryn> Alright maheanuu , paste me your dmesg in a pastefile.
[01:49] <zhanger> xisorshadow yes
[01:49] <tbrown2012fb> My laptop is over heating again how can I make it cool down:(
[01:49] <artemis12> xisorshadow: generally speaking, that is where programs are launched from
[01:49] <xisorshadow> i know bin is short for binary so i assumed that was where it stored the executables for stuff
[01:49] <maheanuu> Saeryn, Yes
[01:49] <xisorshadow> what is the name of the terminal window program? so i can add that to my list?
[01:49] <zhanger> you can type 'which chromium-browser' to make sure the path is the same
[01:50] <artemis12> xisorshadow: yep, that's correct
[01:50] <zhanger> gnome-terminal
[01:50] <chris__> gnome-terminal
[01:50] <xisorshadow> woot ty for all the help! im off to tweak my htpc, now that it works how i want! got hours of work in xbmc to do :D
[01:50] <chris__> theres also a neat one called guake
[01:50] <zhanger> xisorshadow : good luck
[01:50] <artemis12> I used urxvt
[01:50] <reisio> limpc: must be read only
[01:50] <limpc> the sd card is unlocked though
[01:50] <limpc> why is it saying readonly?
[01:51] <reisio> talking about the little hardware unlock thing?
[01:51] <Yago> escott: it says unable to find expected entry 'unisversal/binary-i386/Packages' to release file (wrong sources.list entry or malformed file
[01:51] <Yago> )
[01:51] <maheanuu> Saeryn, what is dmesg?  I know of the paste file but the dmesg command or what it is I am not familiar with yet
[01:51] <limpc> yes the switch on the sd card. it's set to unlocked
[01:51] <limpc> reisio, im using a media hub if that makes any difference?
[01:51] <escott> Yago, can you paste the error message and the contents of sources.list to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:51] <Yago> oh
[01:51] <Yago> wait
[01:51] <limpc> i dont see sdhci in lsmod or dmesg
[01:51] <Saeryn> maheanuu open a terminal and type "dmesg" without the quotes.
[01:52] <reisio> limpc: I s'pose it could
[01:52] <maheanuu> Saeryn, Ok bbiam with a paste
[01:52] <Yago> i failed to see this: Yago, universe not universal?
[01:52] <limpc> how do i fix this?
[01:53] <tbrown2012fb> My sound is not working on ubuntu what do I do to install the right drivers:)
[01:53] <reisio> tbrown2012fb: laptop?
[01:53] <tbrown2012fb> reisio: Yes
[01:54] <reisio> tbrown2012fb: did you make sure stuff is unmuted in alsamixer? (hit TAB to see everything)
[01:54] <Yago> escott: I AM INSTALLING MBR
[01:54] <Yago> escott: sorry for caps
[01:54] <escott> Yago, ok cool
[01:54] <maheanuu> Saeryn,  Here is the info you asked for   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1018911/
[01:55] <escott> maheanuu, [  160.615734] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error
[01:55] <Yago> escott: I am setup
[01:55] <escott> Yago, then sudo parted -l and look for the NTFS I suspect it will be /dev/sda# where the number doesn't matter to us
[01:56] <escott> Yago, then you can run sudo install-mbr /dev/sda (without the number)
[01:56] <Saeryn> maheanuu It seems the disk had an error while reading a piece of data. It could be a bad sector due to a headcrash or rough handling in the package.
[01:57] <escott> maheanuu, time to RMA
[01:57] <Saeryn> ^
[01:57] <Saeryn> Most definitely
[01:57] <Yago> escott: ok it says disk: /dev/sda
[01:57] <Yago> ill run install-mbr
[01:57] <Saeryn> What brand is the Drive maheanuu?
[01:57] <maheanuu> RMA's di bit work here but I will take it back to the dealer
[01:57] <escott> Yago, "sudo install-mbr /dev/sda"
[01:57] <maheanuu> Western Digital
[01:57] <maheanuu> USB 2
[01:58] <Saeryn> Yep, RMA.
[01:58] <maheanuu> Saeryn,  Western Digital
[01:58] <Yago> escott: thats it?
[01:58] <escott> maheanuu, life is going to be difficult on an island. the weather is probably pretty hostile, and the drives have to travel and be handled more
[01:58] <saliak> i'm using fetch mail to download emails and pass them to a script that processes them.  when the shell script gets run, mktemp yields "permission denied".  it looks like fetch mail is running as "user" 113, which i'm guessing has something to do with this.  what does that exactly mean?  fetch mail gets started during init.d
[01:58] <rhombsdoc> hi there
[01:58] <reisio> tbrown2012fb: if you still can't get it, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto if you're using snd-hda-intel
[01:58] <Saeryn> maheanuu Basically, the drive can't read the data from the disk due to what it seems is an error with the physical medium, meaning a scratch or imperfection during manufacturing.
[01:59] <dr_willis> amazeing hard drives are reliable as they are. ;)
[01:59] <Saeryn> They should be willing to send you a new one at little to no cost to yourself maheanuu
[01:59] <tbrown2012fb> reisio: Am good I got it two work thanks
[01:59] <escott> Yago, so now you can reboot and you should go directly to windows (no grub) confirm that. then reboot back to the livecd, and start "gparted" and use that to delete the ubuntu partition and increase the size of the windows partition. before you do that can you tell me if there was anything before NTFS on /dev/sda or was it /dev/sda1
[01:59] <maheanuu> escott, I came here in 74 and became a citizen in 84 I was a Sperry Univac Field Engineer for the Navy after retiring from the Navy...
[02:00] <Yago> escott: ok thank-you
[02:00] <ItalianStallion> hi im trying to install ubuntu from my hard drive that i have in a hard drive dock thats connected via usb 3.0, and when i went to reboot my computer to install, it didnt go to the drive
[02:00] <maheanuu> Saeryn,  I am a retired Chief Electronics Tech and have been in puters since the early 60's
[02:01] <ItalianStallion> i had to turn the drive to get back into windows 7
[02:01] <ItalianStallion> and it was telling me something about a file missing
[02:01] <Saeryn> maheanuu That's very nice.
[02:01] <harushimo> does ubuntu offer a 64 bit virtual machine software
[02:01] <harushimo> I mean so the guest os can run 64 bit
[02:01] <harushimo> my mobo doesn't have the option for virtualization
[02:01] <Saeryn> harushimo To run a 64 Bit os in a Virtual Machine you need a 64 Bit host machine and a CPU capable of VT-x
[02:01] <maheanuu> I used to have all sorts of drive tools, but haven't found much for Linux and I really do want not having to ever use Windoze ever again.....
[02:01] <escott> harushimo, no
[02:02] <Saeryn> Otherwise no, you will have to run a 32-bit Guest.
[02:02] <harushimo> my machine is 64 bit. I don't have a mobo with virtualizatoin on it
[02:02] <harushimo> ok
[02:02] <harushimo> that is what I thought
[02:02] <harushimo> I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask
[02:02] <Saeryn> :) No harm in asking.
[02:03] <harushimo> thanks
[02:03] <dr_willis> we will still send you a bill... ;)
[02:03] <Saeryn> Also harushimo I think it is the CPU that is required to have the capability not the Motherboard but I'm not entirely sure on that.
[02:03] <Yago> escott: Windows boots up
[02:03] <harushimo> sorry then my cpu
[02:03] <harushimo> I thought it was mobo
[02:03] <escott> harushimo, i dont think you have to have VT-X to virtualize, its just a lot slower
[02:03] <harushimo> really
[02:03] <harushimo> I was reading online that mobo have the option
[02:04] <ItalianStallion> hello?
[02:04] <tbrown2012fb> How can I make my laptop cool down I have LXDE Desktop Experence on but it still getting hot:) Please someone help me:)
[02:04] <Yago> escott: im booting live cd again
[02:04] <escott> Yago, ok. so now you should be able to remove the ubuntu and resize the NTFS provided you to not change where he NTFS starts
[02:04] <maheanuu> I am going back and try to partition and format the drive again and then load it one more time, It is too late to get another disk until Monday....   That is the problem with living on an island that is remote,  no one works on weekends
[02:04] <Boohbah> !hello | ItalianStallion
[02:04] <Saeryn> Where is that information from escott?
[02:04] <ItalianStallion> im trying to install ubuntu from my hard drive that i have in a hard drive dock thats connected via usb 3.0, and when i went to reboot my computer to install, it didnt go to the drive
[02:04] <Yago> escott: what do you mean by not changing where it starts?
[02:04] <escott> harushimo, i dont think my i3 has vtx but i can run vbox
[02:04] <harushimo> I'm running vbox
[02:05] <harushimo> I'm running into a problem setting up maas
[02:05] <noob> how do you install to usb?
[02:05] <harushimo> the version that they have online is 64 bit
[02:05] <Saeryn> escott I was under the assumption that all i3 of a 2nd Gen had VT-x?
[02:05] <escott> harushimo, i take that back mine does have vmx so i dont really know
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> noob, two types of installs a full one and one for installs which are you looking for?
[02:06] <escott> Saeryn, maybe the i-series sold as pentiums have that disabled? i know they sell some without it
[02:06] <ItalianStallion> can someone please help me
[02:06] <chris__> this looks like what I am wanting to do http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/how-to-hijack-an-already-running-x11-application-via-ssh-x
[02:06] <noob> I want to be able to install and run linux off a usb
[02:06] <Saeryn> harushimo I'm 99.9% Sure the CPU *MUST* have VT-x Virtualization to support a 64-Bit Virtual Guest.
[02:07] <escott> Yago, if NTFS was partition 2 you should not remove partition1 and make NTFS grow at the front
[02:07] <xangua> !usb | noob
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> ItalianStallion, how did you load the HD?
[02:07] <Saeryn> Ah ok escott
[02:07] <dr_willis> ive ran ubuntu from usb hard drives and flash befor. no real issues. I tend to do 'full' normal installs to the external drives
[02:07] <ItalianStallion> the HD is inserted into a HD Dock, connected through USB 3.0
[02:07] <Yago> escott: NTFS meaning windows right?
[02:07] <noob> yes, a usb pendrive install is what im looking for
[02:07] <Saeryn> harushimo If you give me the model of your CPU I can check for you to make sure :)
[02:07] <dr_willis> ItalianStallion:  it might not be a bootable device
[02:07] <noob> thanks ubottu
[02:07] <ItalianStallion> its a hard drive
[02:08] <ItalianStallion> when the computer reboots, it just sits there at the menu
[02:08] <escott> Saeryn, i dont think thats true. because vmware and company existed BEFORE VT-X their existence drove the creation of the feature. http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/10/01/should-you-enable-intels-vt-x-in-virtualbox/
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> ItalianStallion, please use nics in reponses.
[02:08] <ItalianStallion> and doesnt do a thing
[02:08] <dr_willis> ItalianStallion:  that dosent mean the pc can boot from it  - due to it being in a dock
[02:08] <escott> harushimo, you dont *HAVE* to have VT-X its nice if you do though
[02:08] <ItalianStallion> so i cant install linux to a hard drive connected through a usb hd dock?
[02:09] <escott> Yago, yes
[02:09] <dr_willis> ive seen pcs with usb3 that cant boot from theusb3 port also.
[02:09] <escott> Yago, the windows partitions will appear as NTFS partitions in gparted because thats the type
[02:09] <dr_willis> ItalianStallion:  its hard to tell.  You cacn install.. but perhaps not boot it.  You could try connecing the hd directly to a usb port
[02:09] <Saeryn> escott He wants to run a 64 Bit guest, I'm on a 64-Bit without VT-x and I can;t do it. That article talks about x86 unless I'm misunderstanding.
[02:10] <ItalianStallion> i dont understand, dr_willis
[02:10]  * noob hugs ubottu
[02:10] <dr_willis> ItalianStallion:  dont use the dock. Plug the HD into a usb port.
[02:10] <ItalianStallion> i cant, it is a internal hard drive
[02:10] <Yago> escott: k
[02:10] <Saeryn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/41550/how-do-i-run-a-64-bit-guest-in-virtualbox
[02:11] <dr_willis> the dock has a built in hard drive? Never seen one of those. So no idea if its bootable or not.
[02:11] <ItalianStallion> The dock has 2 sections for 2 HARD DRIVES
[02:11] <escott> Saeryn, ok
[02:11] <harushimo> you are correct
[02:11] <ItalianStallion> one of them is 250 gb hard drive which i want to use for linux
[02:11] <ItalianStallion> and the other drive is a 2 TERABYTE DRIVE FOR STORAGE
[02:11] <harushimo> the articles they were referring to the motherboard
[02:11] <harushimo> I think processor too
[02:12] <chris__> any idea why this {sudo echo "deb http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl/ubuntu/ hardy main universe" >> /etc/apt/sources.list} would give me permission denied
[02:12] <escott> harushimo, nevermind. Saeryn is correct: Revision D and later 64-bit AMD processors (as a rule of thumb, those manufactured in 90 nm or less) added basic support for segmentation in long mode, making it possible to run 64-bit guests in 64-bit hosts via binary translation. Intel did not add segmentation support to its x86-64 implementation (Intel 64), making 64-bit software-only virtualization impossible on Intel CPUs, but Intel VT-x supp
[02:12] <escott> ort makes 64-bit hardware assisted virtualization possible on the Intel platform.
[02:12] <dr_willis> You could always boot from a external flash drive perhaps. aaaand see if you can get it booting that way. but its possible the dock is special - and cant boot from the hard drives
[02:12] <ItalianStallion> what if i just changed the boot order
[02:12] <ItalianStallion> would that work
[02:12] <escott> chris__ sudo runs "echo" as root, but >> is in your shell. try echo | sudo tee -a filename
[02:12] <dr_willis> ItalianStallion:  if the bios even sees the docks drives to allow you to select them.. that would be a sign it CAN boot from the dock.
[02:13] <harushimo> ok
[02:13] <limpc> anyone?  trying to copy image to a securedigital (SD) card. getting a 'read-only' error. sd card is unlocked.  also, this is through a media hub.
[02:13] <ben_> umm this is weird
[02:13] <dr_willis> if it dosent show them ItalianStallion  that would be a sign that it cant boot from the dock
[02:13] <harushimo> one question, virtualization has been there a long time. Isn't better to do it at the software level rather than hardware
[02:13] <ItalianStallion> when i reboot my computer with the usb dock still powered on, it just sits at the menu
[02:14] <ItalianStallion> and when i turn it off and reset, it loads fine
[02:14] <delac> limpc:  http://superuser.com/questions/53667/how-do-i-prevent-a-memory-card-from-mounting-as-read-only-in-ubuntu-linux
[02:14] <Saeryn> harushimo Depending on what you are doing virtualization vis-a-vis hardware is usually better rather than software.
[02:14] <limpc> its not mounted, i unmounted the volume and am trying to dd an image to it
[02:14] <chris__> escott, that worked, I thought sudo ran for the entire command
[02:15] <escott> chris__ it did. the command was echo :).
[02:15] <harushimo> has anyone use maas at all?
[02:15] <rhombsdoc> i got the following problem: whenever i reboot, my netbook (acer one) hangs after turning of the screen
[02:15] <harushimo> what I'm trying to do is setup a cloud
[02:15] <ItalianStallion> be right back
[02:15] <delac> limpc: you cant dd anything to unmounted disk, as far as i know...
[02:15] <rhombsdoc> but shutdown works fine
[02:15] <rhombsdoc> only when i try to reboot, it kind of freezes
[02:15] <harushimo> ubuntu has maas. I want to be able to use it
[02:15] <rhombsdoc> got no chance to enter/readout anything
[02:15] <rhombsdoc> is there any logfile of the reboot?
[02:16] <PlastikSpork> Looking for help with Laptop heat issues in Ubuntu 12.04.
[02:16] <limpc> delac, when i run fsck -a on it, i get open: Read-only file system
[02:16] <harushimo> it would be great
[02:16] <acp_> Hi
[02:16] <escott> chris__ you can also do things like sudo $( command with | pipes ) and get what you want, but I would discourage it because its unclear how variables will be expanded
[02:17] <Onixs> aside from testdisk, is there a similar tool to recover deleted files?
[02:17] <luishasbon> Hello
[02:17] <Onixs> a bunch of folders and files that is
[02:17] <delac> limpc: I must admit, that I do not know what that means
[02:18] <chris__> escott, I know one of these days I am going to forget the '-a' and my file will be gone. I havent used tee. I am trying to get better with the command line and learn new commands. Is there a particular website that youd recommend?
[02:18] <bdfoster> anyone know of a tool that you can create a debian distro (remix)? basically i want to make an iso that's a lighter set of default packages and is geared towards a specific application
[02:19] <escott> chris__ its just as easy to forget a > so the main thing is to be careful
[02:19] <limpc> delac, http://pastebin.com/GJKfqu0P
[02:19] <PlastikSpork> Looking for help to resolve laptop overheating issues in Ubuntu 12.04
[02:19] <Jordan_U> !remaster | bdfoster
[02:19] <chris__> escott, Ill just need to get in the habbit than, is there a site that you used to use these commands?
[02:20] <bdfoster> Jordan_U, yea but for debian not ubuntu (yea, i know ubuntu is based on debian)
[02:20] <Jordan_U> bdfoster: If you really want Debian though you're in the wrong channel.
[02:20] <escott> chris__ not particularly you just pick them up over time, im still learning things. like what i gave you earlier sudo $() doesnt work the way i thought it would
[02:20] <Jordan_U> bdfoster: Try #debian , this is #ubuntu.
[02:21] <bdfoster> yea i asked the same question in there first, no one's around
[02:21] <chris__> escott, does sudo $() do something bad?
[02:21] <escott> chris__ $() is the same as `` so it executes that command as the normal user and passes the output as a command to sudo
[02:22] <Jordan_U> bdfoster: That doesn't make it on topic for #ubuntu.
[02:22] <bdfoster> doesn't mean someone doesn't know...
[02:22] <escott> chris__ sudo bash -c ' command with | pipes ' should work, but again i wouldn't recommend it because thats a new subshell with a different environment and you have to be super careful as to how variables expand
[02:23] <harushimo> does anyone anything ubunt maas service?
[02:23] <harushimo> or how to set it up
[02:23] <harushimo> !maas
[02:23] <escott> Yago, do you know what you need to do at this point?
[02:23] <Yago> im just now finishing to boot ubuntu
[02:23] <Jordan_U> bdfoster: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. That is our policy, please respect it.
[02:23] <Yago> now im opening gparted
[02:24] <chris__> escott, Ive used the "|" with grep and now with tee, what else would I use it for?
[02:24] <Yago> escott: i just run sudo gparted right?
[02:24] <Yago> escott: ok
[02:24] <escott> chris__ basically everything. you can do some crazy stuff with pipes.
[02:24] <Yago> got it
[02:25] <Saeryn> chris__ http://www.linfo.org/pipes.html
[02:25] <escott> Yago, gksudo is preferred
[02:25] <PlastikSpork> Looking for help... anybody?
[02:25] <Saeryn> PlastikSpork with what?
[02:25] <Yago> escott: oh... its already open. So ill close it and run "gksudo gparted"?
[02:26] <escott> chris__ if you ever find yourself thinking "If i take this and modify it with this program and save it, and then modify it with this program and save it... then that whole chain can usually be replaced with a series of pipes
[02:26] <escott> Yago, damage is done
[02:26] <escott> Yago, but with a livecd it doesnt matter so much because you can always reboot
[02:26] <escott> !gksudo | Yago
[02:26] <PlastikSpork> Laptop running Ubuntu 12.04 running way too hot... ran cpu stress test in Windows 7... 160F.  In ubuntu temps exceeded 200F!!!!
[02:27] <Yago> escott: thank-you. NTFS is sda1... i think its the first partition
[02:27] <PlastikSpork> Seems like the CPU fan speed does not increase as the Temp increases
[02:27] <Saeryn> PlastikSpork 200F?! Usually the critical mark is about 230F
[02:27] <Saeryn> I'd check the fans
[02:27] <PlastikSpork> Yeah no $hit
[02:27] <escott> Yago, should be. just select the stuff that is not the NTFS (and after it) and delete it. then select the NTFS and grow it to fill the free space
[02:27] <luishasbon> Is anyone else having any kind of issue with the shutting down process in ubuntu 12.04 like freezing
[02:28] <xangua> !language | PlastikSpork
[02:28] <PlastikSpork> sorry
[02:28] <Saeryn> Ah, yeah, that can be your issue, make sure the vents are clear and clean and the fan is working properly.
[02:28] <escott> PlastikSpork, could be an issue with the graphics card
[02:28] <Yago> escott: ok, does the non-NTFS part include the "D:/" drive
[02:28] <escott> PlastikSpork, if you have an option to disable nvidia/amd graphics and use intel integrated that would be better
[02:28] <PlastikSpork> nothing wrong with vents being dirty... windows 7 100% cpu stress test the temp is a constant 160F
[02:29] <escott> Yago, anything NTFS is windows related
[02:29] <Saeryn> Then follow escott 's advice.
[02:29] <Saeryn> Check the graphics card.
[02:29] <PlastikSpork> I am using integrated drivers
[02:29] <escott> Yago, so check the types of the filesystems
[02:29] <escott> !info powertop | PlastikSpork
[02:29] <Saeryn> Oh, interesting tool.
[02:30] <Yago> escott: how about file system "extended"?
[02:30] <Tiktalik> I need a way to send a file from one computer to another'
[02:30] <Tiktalik> Without a USB stick
[02:30] <escott> PlastikSpork, unfortunately this is going to probably come down to either "graphics drivers" or acpi tables. neither of which can you do a lot about. there are things to tell the kernel to try and do acpi differently, but if the manufacturer creates buggy acpi tables then...
[02:30] <Saeryn> Tiktalik save it online then download it from the site.
[02:31] <escott> Yago, ext4 is ubuntu. extended is a container for other partitions
[02:31] <Tiktalik> Saeryn: we have a horribly slow internet connection
[02:31] <chris__> escott, what the difference between "more" and "less", I did 'dpkg --list | less' and 'dpkg --list | more' and they look the same
[02:31] <PlastikSpork> I think the problem is that Ubuntu will not increase the CPU fan speed as the Temp increases.... In windows 7 the CPU fan speed increases drastically during the stress test and in Ubuntu the Fan speed stays constant
[02:31] <escott> Tiktalik, scp filename user@host:/path/to/folder
[02:32] <delac> limpc: sorry, I was bit afk there, but back now :)  Unfortunately though, I can't really say anything about the error you get. I'm going to assume that the card was properly unmounted when you tried fsck?
[02:32] <eQuiNoX__> hey everyone, i was trying to build a toolchain for mips as per the instructions at http://linuxencaja.net/wiki/Gccmips. When doing make CFLAGS="-Os -w", I get the error, http://dpaste.com/754451/ - any hints on what Im doing wrong?
[02:32] <escott> chris__, less is more :). lots of old programs have an original UNIX variant and a subsequent GNU or BSD variant less and more are one such a tool
[02:32] <Tiktalik> escott: Can I make it use a port that isn't 22?
[02:32] <Sav1or> ATTENTION #UBUNTU
[02:32] <Sav1or> DICKS
[02:33] <escott> chris__, they will have different options, usually you want the gnu version. so in this case less. I was honestly surprised they included more in the release
[02:33] <Saeryn> Tiktalik:  -P switch allows you to specify the port.
[02:33] <escott> Tiktalik, if you run the server on a different port yes
[02:34] <Tiktalik> escott: what computers do I need ports and stuff forwarded on
[02:34] <limpc> delac, did you see the pastebin i posted?
[02:35] <escott> Tiktalik, you would need to install openssh-server on the remote system, and on any NAT (ie router) between the two you would need to forward the desired port (22 is the default, but you could use something else)
[02:35] <delac> limpc: yes, that is the error I ment
[02:35] <limpc> hmm k
[02:35] <coraxx> Here is a challenge ... can anyone tell me how to merge .vmdk-files (2gb splitted virtual-disk files) into just one big file ?
[02:35] <rhin0> anyone know why -- I use x2x and have just tried x2x from xubuntu 12.04 to xubuntu 10.04 - x2x doesn't work completely - cursor trapped at left hand side of the screen (x2x is to enable you to use the mouse pointer from 1 pc to another (drifts across))
[02:35] <chris__> escott, I never understood why people said "more is less" and "less is more" until now. Lol...You can take the sentence "I was honestly surprised they included more in the release" and read the defination of more in both ways
[02:35] <escott> chris__,  usually they say "less is greater than more"
[02:36] <asdf1232> .
[02:36] <coraxx> ...oh and the challenge is ... WITHOUT using VMWare or any non-opensource software
[02:36] <Saeryn> coraxx: I'd check the VirtualBox forums.
[02:36] <escott> chris__, or less is better than more
[02:36] <Saeryn> Oh
[02:36] <limpc> delac, this is what i get with -n: http://pastebin.com/8b332qi5
[02:36] <Saeryn> Have fun with that coraxx :P
[02:36] <asdf1232> i have a iso image with free space, how i can make an exact iso copy of that file without the free space inside?
[02:36] <limpc> oops hd wrong one
[02:36] <coraxx> Saeryn: oh I'm already enjoying myself :-)
[02:36] <escott> chris__, and yes these program names can be entertaining in sentences. its a bit of a game how they come up with them
[02:36] <limpc> delac, http://pastebin.com/0q3b5hSs
[02:37] <smw> asdf1232, compression?
[02:37] <chris__> mkisofs -r -o file.iso /path/to/folder
[02:37] <asdf1232> chris__: whats path to folder?
[02:37] <asdf1232> im starting with an .iso, and ending with a .iso
[02:37] <Tiktalik> awesome, 3 megabytes per second
[02:37] <chris__> asdf1232, the folder that you want the iso to contain
[02:38] <Tiktalik> thanks escott, you're very helpful
[02:38] <Saeryn> coraxx If I have some freetime later I can check into it for you, but right now I'm quite busy, is there any way I can contact you outside of this room ie an email address?
[02:38] <escott> chris__, loop mount it and delete the blank file?
[02:38] <asdf1232> chris__: how can i say i want it to contain the contents of my starting.iso file? it has bootsector stuff in it
[02:38] <escott> asdf1232, loop mount it and delete whatever your blank space file is
[02:38] <Tiktalik> escott = gentleman and scholar
[02:39] <chris__> asdf1232, escott if you were wanting to take an iso to cd you would do 'cat file.iso > /dev/sr0'
[02:39] <maheanuu> escott, I repartitioned and formatted the WD 500 GB USB Drive and it seems to be loading the partials fine now and the partials are downloading normally
[02:40] <crooper> ok... now that i'm here. how can I find out why aptitude won't upgrade a couple of packages?
[02:40] <escott> chris__, that would be in the style of unix, but it doesnt work that way unfortunately. you can install wodim and use it to burn
[02:40] <asdf1232> what i mean is my starting iso is 4gb used, out of 6gb space, i want it to be 4gb out of 4gb instead without mucking up the content and bootsector data in it
[02:41] <chris__> escott, asdf1232 I thought that was what I had done to burn my iso, but I also used a usb so I was technically not burning a cd
[02:41] <escott> maheanuu, i would still RMA. im very skeptical you will have success with this drive now that it has already started to fail
[02:42] <deepspeed> I have a corrupted 4 gig micro sd in an sd adapter plugged into an sd port.
[02:42] <escott> asdf1232, what are you proposing to remove from it?
[02:42] <deepspeed> I'm running a lucid distro with enlightenment, and can't seem to recognize the disk.
[02:42] <deepspeed> Is there a tool I can use to help me recover the thing?
[02:42] <udy> quit
[02:42] <Saeryn> maheanuu If the drive is new, the bad sectors will be marked as such and remapped, then the drive will use reserved space for such an issue to compensate, but if it IS failing and it is not a manufacturing process error, then RMA, still RMA'ing would be wise.
[02:43] <asdf1232> nothing the image has 6GB of space, but only 4GB of it is used, and im trying to make it burnable to dvd single layer
[02:43] <maheanuu> escott, I am in the middle of the south pacific, directly south of Hawaii, and we're all alone here and at about 150 dollars freight on a hard drive just to send it out is going to cost me over double the price of the drive even if they give me one
[02:43] <Saeryn> maheanuu Then buy a new one.
[02:43] <crooper> deepspeed try using ivman, i use openbox on minimal install and it gets recognized
[02:43] <xangua> deepspeed: lucid desktop is no longer supported
[02:43] <Saeryn> Or risk the chance of a complete failure.
[02:43] <xangua> ooh lucid, thought hardy :P
[02:43] <xangua> nevermind
[02:44] <Saeryn> Lucid Lynx is supported until April 2013 iirc?
[02:44] <chris__> escott, I dont have a cd to test out but would I do wodim file.iso
[02:44] <escott> maheanuu, i get that but... you shouldnt have to pay for what UPS screwed up
[02:44] <delac> limpc: seems I made a mistake, I remembered incorrectly that fsck would fix fat filesystems too. Have you tried the remount thing that is mentioned on top of the page I sent you previously?
[02:44] <Jordan_U> deepspeed: This channel only supports official flavors of Ubuntu and respins, not derivitive distributions. Try your distro's support channel or ##linux.
[02:44] <maheanuu> I understand, and I will probably do it in July...   My eagle doesn't bring me very much for a retirement
[02:44] <Saeryn> maheanuu Contact the reseller and the manufacturer, see if you can work something out.
[02:45] <maheanuu> I have no idea if UPS delivered it to the dealer here, but I will not be getting a new drive till monday as the weekend is upon us.....
[02:45] <escott> chris__, don't have it installed but i believe wodim --data /path/to/file.iso /dev/sr1 would work. I usually like to throw in a --fixate and --eject and a -vv
[02:45] <Saeryn> I see some people who post issues like this on NewEgg and the manufacturer will sometimes respond and even send a new one completely free of shipping charge.
[02:45] <Stud-ubuntu> Hi I installed ubuntu to a flash drive, and I want to install some programs and keep them on the flash drive, how do i do that so they dont get lost
[02:45] <Saeryn> But nothing is garunteed.
[02:45] <maheanuu> I think that I will wait for the 1.5 TB drives to arrive.  This drive cost me 15.900 francs which is almost 170 dollars
[02:46] <Saeryn> Stud-ubuntu Google persistent install
[02:46] <chris__> create a persistance file, I dont know how to do that command line
[02:46] <Stud-ubuntu> how do i do that
[02:46] <crooper> Jordan_U, so u're saying that since i have ubuntu server installed on this box but use openbox as a wm that this is not a ubuntu box?
[02:46] <Jordan_U> Stud-ubuntu: I would highly recommend doing a normal install to the USB if you have enough space.
[02:46] <Stud-ubuntu> the usb flash drive is 7 GB
[02:46] <Saeryn> Stud-ubuntu You can find MANY guides via a Search Engine if you search "Ubuntu Flash Drive USB Persistent Install"
[02:46] <Stud-ubuntu> is that enough?
[02:47] <Saeryn> Jordan_U is correct, usually the minimum recommended is around 8GB
[02:47] <chris__> Stud-ubuntu, have you heard of the program on ubuntu named 'startup disk creator'?
[02:47] <Jordan_U> crooper: No I never said that. If you're using only official Ubuntu repositories it's Ubuntu and supported here.
[02:47] <limpc> delac, let me see, cant get it remounted for some reason now. ill let you know
[02:47] <escott> Stud-ubuntu, if you dont install any big programs and keep the music off of it you could probably make 7GB work
[02:47] <delac> limpc: http://michael-peeters.blogspot.fi/2009/02/fixing-readonly-sd-card-reader-in.html
[02:47] <Stud-ubuntu> no i havent
[02:47] <limpc> yea i know the one you're talking about.
[02:47] <delac> limpc: that is one option... :)
[02:47] <crooper> oh,ok i'll agree to that
[02:48] <Stud-ubuntu> how do i view the list of repositories that are available to install?
[02:48] <chris__> shrink the main partition and create a ext4 partition labeled 'casper-rw'...I think but I am not entirely sure
[02:48] <chris__> gksudo usb-creator-gtk
[02:49] <maheanuu> I'm outta here I have about 30 to 40 gigs of partial files to move from my drive on this box to the USB drive, it is gonna be great having working space on the notebook again
[02:49] <Stud-ubuntu> what is that?
[02:49] <chris__> its a gui program used to take isos and make bootable usbs or cds with a persistance file
[02:50] <MaynardWaters> can anyone help me understand the difference between a .tmux.conf .screenrc and other similar thing config files?
[02:50] <escott> Stud-ubuntu, there are two ways you can use a USB. one is with a FAT32 filesystem and a special bootloader that can read a compressed file that contains the ext4 system. or as a direct ext4 system and the usb is treated as a normal drive. the usb-creator-gtk does the first
[02:50] <escott> Stud-ubuntu, its how you would create an install liveusb
[02:50] <chris__> a perstance file saves your stuff so it does not get lost when you shutdown
[02:50] <escott> Stud-ubuntu, where i mean a usb you could use as an installer on other machines
[02:50] <MaynardWaters> chris__: I was forced to use fat eariler today, the usb-creator-gtk didnt want to write on a ext4 partition
[02:50] <Raptor_> Unetbootin is the best way to make an install usb
[02:51] <limpc> delac, "mount: cannot remount block device /dev/sdc1 read-write, is write-protected"
[02:51] <MaynardWaters> why do you guys not recommend installing directly to the usb device?
[02:51] <escott> MaynardWaters, not all bioses can boot it
[02:51] <melkor> I've got a usb drive and I want to put ubuntu on it, but I need some programs on that install. Is there a good way to do this?
[02:51] <MaynardWaters> escott: nice point.
[02:52] <xangua> !usb | melkor
[02:52] <Raptor_> If you have a Ubuntu machine to make a live cd, use AptonCD
[02:52] <limpc> i dont get it. it's not write protected.
[02:52] <delac> limpc: that sounds like thesdcard has the write protection on
[02:52] <chris__> MaynardWaters, Your partition had filesystem errors, Try opening gparted and check and fix the filesystem
[02:52] <delac> limpc: it does have the little knob?
[02:53] <limpc> yes
[02:53] <limpc> but its not in the lock position
[02:53] <chris__> is it a holiday?
[02:53] <delac> limpc: try it on the other position?
[02:53] <limpc> but just for kicks, i changed its position to the other one
[02:53] <delac> :)
[02:53] <limpc> its still giving me the write protection error
[02:53] <chris__> check for filesystem errors
[02:53] <delac> limpc: hmm, maybe the switch is broken?
[02:54] <melkor> damn, torrenting at 1meg per second... it still takes almost 10 minutes to d/load.
[02:54] <escott> limpc, you are planning to recover data right. so why not just dd off and work with the image?
[02:54] <chris__> i was unable to write to my entire hard drive because my filesystem was broken. Had to boot from a live cd and use gparted
[02:54] <delac> limpc: or there is too much dust? (did you read that article?)
[02:54] <limpc> escott, no, i dont need to recover any data
[02:54] <limpc> im trying to dd an image TO the sd card
[02:54] <limpc> delac, its a brand new sd i just bought an hour ago
[02:54] <escott> limpc, ok must have misread
[02:54] <limpc> PNY 32gb
[02:55] <escott> limpc, or confused with someone else
[02:56] <delac> limpc: well, then I recommend returning it to the store
[02:56] <chris__> ohhh. On a fat32 filesystem you can only have a 4gb persistance file which is why I shrunk the main partition and created the casper-rw. Fat32 has a max filesize of 4g-4k
[02:56] <delac> limpc: and try another one
[02:57] <Crooper> why won't aptitude upgrade 2 packages that are labeled to be upgraded... no errors print out either
[02:57] <OerHeks> limpc, are you sure the cardreader can handle 32 GB?
[02:58] <delac> limpc: just checked the anatomy of the write protect switch - it cant be that
[02:58] <chris__> if it couldnt handle it wouldnt he just beable to use the space he could like 8gb
[02:58] <delac> limpc: but it could be the slot. does any other card work there?
[02:58] <Crooper> fat32 only takes files less than 4GB
[02:58] <limpc> OerHeks, it would be weird if it had a limit, it's just a glorified USB converter
[02:58] <chris__> my 32gb sd card was too big for my camera so It can only use 8gb
[02:59] <chris__> can he write to it if he creates a smaller partition?
[03:00] <deepspeed> log in as root to write to the usb.
[03:00] <limpc> delac, i dont have another card
[03:00] <escott> limpc, how does dmesg recognize it
[03:00] <deepspeed> actually, mount the drive in a file manager, right-click the white-space, click properties, and see the permissions on the drive.
[03:00] <Crooper> it's not the partition... he can have big partitions but the package being written to it can't be 4GB or bigger
[03:00] <limpc> escott, [12792.413355] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] 62552064 512-byte logical blocks: (32.0 GB/29.8 GiB)
[03:00] <deepspeed> yea, fat32 has a file size limit of 4 gigs.
[03:01] <limpc> though, 512 byte blocks is really crappy haha
[03:01] <deepspeed> but no partition size limit, though really, really big ones give it trouble sometimes.
[03:01] <escott> limpc, 512 is standard. its actually really a big transition to change that
[03:01] <Crooper> i have 32GB micros with fat32 on it  but can't write anything 4GB or bigger
[03:01] <deepspeed> exactly
[03:01] <melkor> Crooper: isn't that a problem with fat32?
[03:02] <deepspeed> but can write 10 3 gig fies no prob.
[03:02] <limpc> escott, for fat perhaps. the standard otherwise is 4096
[03:02] <deepspeed> that's fat32 for u.
[03:02] <Crooper> i have 500GB hardrives that are fat32
[03:02] <melkor> Crooper: that's somewhat crazy
[03:02] <deepspeed> it's only really a problem with big games, backups, and os install files.
[03:02] <Saeryn> FAT32 Has a limit by design for any file over 4GB
[03:03] <escott> limpc, no thats the memory block size. check your hard disk, unless it is a brand new 2TB or larger disk it will have 512b blocks, and even if it is a 2TB WD "green" it will report 512b
[03:03] <Saeryn> You can make the partitions as large as you want, but any file trying to be written over 4GB won't work.
[03:03] <Crooper> that's right the limit with fat32 is files can't be 4GB or bigger
[03:03] <deepspeed> I just use backup programs that cut the files into sized chunks, and only install os's less than 4 gigs..problem solved.
[03:03] <Crooper> then youd go with ntfs
[03:03] <deepspeed> ext4*
[03:03] <escott> limpc, so when you first plug this in it shows in mount as read only, and when you try sudo mount -o remount,rw /mountpoint it gives you the error
[03:03] <Crooper> or ext4
[03:04] <deepspeed> I need to look into the differences of ext4 and reiserfs.
[03:04] <escott> limpc, is there an accompanying message in dmesg when you try to remount?
[03:04] <Saeryn> Ext4 Would be best.
[03:04] <Crooper> but if you have a universal hardrive, winblows doesn't read ext4
[03:04] <limpc> escott, hd on i took apart the media hub to clean out some dust
[03:04] <deepspeed> meh, I have dual boot system, but windows is squeezed neatly into the corner of the drive, and rarely used.
[03:05] <melkor> Crooper: I use ntfs, I think ext3 works with windows not by default but when you install the driver it works rather well.
[03:06] <Crooper> unless u're running linux exclusively you want to use a windows safe format
[03:06] <Crooper> linux reads windows
[03:07] <melkor> Crooper: the ntfs drivers are reverse engineered, the windows based ext drivers are open source for accessing an open source resource.
[03:07] <limpc> escott, when i plug in the device, dmesg still registers "write protect is on"
[03:07] <Crooper> melkor that might be true but i don't trust alot of drivers in windows ( that's just my opinion)
[03:07] <limpc> i have a feeling that as long as it says that i cant remount
[03:07] <Saeryn> escott Samsung's 2TB EcoGreen Drives also uses the 4k method but can be reformatted to a layout of 512 with 4k Sector Boundies
[03:08] <escott> melkor, on the other hand the ntfs-3g drivers are used by virtually every ubuntu and every mac osx user, while the windows drivers for ext* are only used by a few poeople
[03:08] <melkor> Crooper: we have two 1tb drives that cannot read/write past 600megs. The problem could be that the kernel in use is 2.6.10 or something unrully.
[03:08] <limpc> i have a WD 1tb green drive.
[03:08] <Crooper> what system are you using to write/read with melkor /
[03:09] <escott> Saeryn, yes, but my point is 512b is standard for disk block sizes (windows assumes all disks are 512b at the bottom), memory pages have been 4k for a while the transition was about 8 years ago? but thats memory pages not disk blocks
[03:09] <Saeryn> OH Ok. My bad :)
[03:09] <Saeryn> I misunderstood.
[03:09] <melkor> Crooper: it is an old fedora something or other. It is used as a server and should never have been. To make matters worse dev packages weren't installed so new/updated packages cannot be compiled.
[03:10] <Crooper> ahhh, sounds frustrating melkor
[03:10] <escott> Saeryn, yeah limpc was saying he thought a 512b block on a block device was weird. hence my comment that it wasnt
[03:10] <melkor> Crooper: well, it hasn't broken yet, but it just lacks all the new tools.
[03:10] <Saeryn> Ahhhhhhhh, I see now :)
[03:11] <Crooper> recompile the kernel and then manually upgrade
[03:11] <mcored> hey guys whats the equivalent uI for Services in Windows?
[03:11] <mcored> **UI :)
[03:11] <melkor> mcored: just service
[03:11] <Crooper> mcored, try KDE
[03:12] <escott> mcored, im not sure there is a gui. there are too many init systems out there to support them all
[03:12] <mcored> i just wanna make sure quasselcore daemon starts whenever ubuntu starts
[03:12] <escott> !upstart | mcored
[03:12] <escott> mcored, it could be as simple as creating a file in /etc/init/quasselcore.conf
[03:13] <bazhang> mcored, you can also ask in #quassel
[03:13] <escott> mcored, if you dont want to go to that trouble you can just put it in /etc/rc.local
[03:13] <mcored> ok thanks escott
[03:13] <Crooper> oh you really meant "Services" as in server ms 2008
[03:13] <mcored> yes
[03:14] <mcored> as in services.msc
[03:14] <Crooper> mcored, i ussually add something in my cron file
[03:14] <escott> mcored, and thats the combination tool to control service starting/stopping and view logs right
[03:15] <mcored> that is true escott, so hoped to locate the quasselcore daemon and make sure it is at Autostart state
[03:15] <mahir256> why is the 'size on disk' in lubuntu 7 times higher than the actual size? using 12.04 on a 40gb ext4 drive
[03:15] <mcored> so far i got Deluge and TeamViewer in Startup Applications in ubuntu so its ok
[03:15] <escott> mcored, im fairly sure there is no gui for that
[03:15] <mcored> alright thanks guys :) loving the ubuntu server with deluge and quassel installed
[03:16] <mcored> all my window PCs can connect with ther clients to the cores installed in ubuntu
[03:16] <Crooper> mcored, gui for stuff like that is ISPCongig, Webmin, and it think there's a couple more to be googled
[03:16] <escott> !webmin
[03:16] <mcored> ouch
[03:16] <Crooper> ISPConfig sorry
[03:16] <mcored> !ISPConfig
[03:17] <Crooper> !ISPConfig3
[03:17] <mcored> !SPConfig
[03:17] <mcored> !SPConfig3
[03:17] <escott> mcored, maybe if systemd becomes standard across all distros then there will be a tool that is the same, but until then there are just too many init daemons
[03:17] <bazhang>  /msg ubottu mcored Crooper
[03:17] <mcored> !lSPConfig3
[03:18] <fn-troll> yes hello
[03:18] <escott> and not enough developers interested in writing a gui for that. those who know enough about the init daemons to write a gui tool are probably more comfortable working with the text files in /etc/init
[03:18] <fn-troll> In gnome, how do I modify the list of "Places" on the left in file dialog boxes etc?
[03:18] <escott> !askthebot | mcored
[03:18] <Yago> escott: Hey man
[03:18] <escott> Yago, yes
[03:18] <Yago> escott: I just wanna say thank-you for everything
[03:18] <mcored> cheers escott
[03:18] <Yago> and for your patience
[03:18] <fn-troll> e.g. I have "Search", "Recently used".... "Downloads", "Videos", etc and I want a custom folder there as well
[03:19] <escott> fn-troll, ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[03:19] <Crooper> brb need more coffee
[03:19] <escott> fn-troll, you could try and add a custom entry to that. not sure if it would work
[03:19] <Crooper> i used to be able to call it java until java was invented
[03:19] <Yago> escott: I owe you alot
[03:20] <escott> Yago, no problem. it wasnt a hard question, and that is what we are here for
[03:20] <Yago> thanks again. I hope to be back here soon :)
[03:20] <Yago> nite
[03:21] <bviktor> ^j xarchlinux
[03:21] <dyingloop> hey what's the default username and password for ubuntu 12 live cd
[03:21] <bviktor> meh
[03:21] <dyingloop> i was trying out something and to log out
[03:21] <dyingloop> had^
[03:21] <dyingloop> it's requiring me to enter username and password
[03:21] <Crooper> dyingloop,  i didn't know there was one
[03:21] <Flannel> dyingloop: Username: ubuntu, no password.
[03:22] <mahir256> why is the 'size on disk' in the properties window 7 times higher than the actual size?
[03:22] <escott> mahir256, what file is this?
[03:22] <dyingloop> yeah tried different combinations
[03:22] <dyingloop> still nothing
[03:23] <Saeryn> dyingloop have you tried hitting enter twice?
[03:23] <sacarlson> mahir256: maybe it's a compressed file
[03:24] <escott> dyingloop, Sometimes a LiveCD might ask you for a user-name or password. Just leave these blank and press enter (or allow it to time-out).
[03:24] <fn-troll> escott: that doesn't appear to work
[03:24] <escott> dyingloop, but i think the username is supposed to be "ubuntu" with no password
[03:24] <ricree> don't suppose anyone in here has gotten Bastion from the humble indie bundle to work, have they?  Especially on 10.04.  I'm starting to think I may have to upgrade
[03:25] <bazhang> ricree, is that not available from the software center now? is this bundle part five?
[03:25] <ricree> yeah, bazhang.  bundle part five
[03:25] <Saeryn> dyingloop: Do Ctrl+Alt+F1 To go to a Virtual Terminal and see if it asks for a Login Credentials?
[03:25] <mcored> http://imgur.com/T78gn are my startup apps
[03:26] <ricree> I'll check.  I installed the downloaded one.  If there's one on the software center that might work better
[03:26] <dyingloop> oh well i had to restart it again
[03:28] <ricree> bazhang:  yeah.  it's on the software center, but only 11.10 and higher.  I suppose it's getting time to upgrade anyways
[03:28] <mahir256> @escott and @sacarlson: this is happening with all my files. using lubuntu 12.04 on a 40gb ext4 hdd
[03:29] <ricree> On that note, any suggestions for the best upgrade path from 10.04 to 12.04?  Install the versions in place or save my home directory and reinstall?
[03:29] <limpc> this is bs
[03:29] <escott> mahir256, can you maybe send a screenshot or something
[03:30] <limpc> i hacked the board itself.. disabled the SDWP pin on the chip
[03:30] <escott> ricree, i would try the livecd first and read the release notes to see if you want to upgrade
[03:30] <limpc> but dmesg is still registering Write Protect on
[03:31] <Shai> hey guys, i have a question. i have install gnome-shell on ubuntu 12.04, when i try to run it, login off of my sesion and put Gnome to run, starts gnome2, how i can start gnome3?
[03:31] <escott> Shai, it might be that your graphics card is not powerful enough for shell or that you dont have the required drivers
[03:32] <mahir256> @escott: can't send you a screenshot, sorry, but the file properties for / say 7.2 GB total size of files and 48.4 GB size on disk. (installed the os yesterday)
[03:33] <Shai> escott: i have a nvidia geforce 580mx, is very powerful, i think i dont have the drivers.. i will try to install and see it that fix my problem
[03:33] <escott> mahir256, its probably just confused by some of the stuff in /proc or /sys
[03:33] <JoshDreamland> Sometimes my mousepad simulates a middle click randomly. Any new and exciting reason for that?
[03:34] <JoshDreamland> I have tap clicking disabled, so...
[03:34] <escott> mahir256, see what it says for a folder that doesnt have all those special mounts underneath it
[03:35] <mahir256> @escott: well, /proc and /sys return ~1.6 GB total size and no size on disk
[03:35] <limpc> escott, i think i may have found the problem
[03:35] <limpc> i suspect the chip doesnt support SDHC, only SD
[03:35] <limpc> so though it can read it wont write
[03:36] <escott> limpc, im surprised it can read it at all, but sure
[03:36] <Flannel> ricree: You could upgrade directly too.  Don't have to reinstall.
[03:36] <limpc> well it may just be able to read the sd card info, e.g. size
[03:36] <escott> limpc, ok you havent read any data off it yet
[03:36] <escott> ok
[03:36] <limpc> yeah theres nothing on it to begin with
[03:37] <limpc> its a brand new sd card
[03:37] <ricree> Flannel:  Any idea how serious the recommendation to wait for the July release is?
[03:37] <limpc> july release?
[03:37] <Crooper> limpc, is it an older computer?
[03:37] <mahir256> @escott: while the rest of the directories is 5.7 GB total size of files and 48.6 GB size on disk
[03:38] <limpc> Crooper, my system is custom built.  but the sd card is from an older HP bay slot that had a built-in all-in-one card reader
[03:38] <escott> mahir256, baobob can help you narrow down where this is coming from. do you have encrypted home?
[03:38] <mahir256> @escott: and my nearly-empty-except-for-configs home directory is 104.8 MB total size and 820.6 MB size on disk
[03:38] <mahir256> @escott: no my /home is not encrypted
[03:39] <limpc> i kinda hacked it to work on my system (rewired the pin config to work in a standard onboard usb pinout)
[03:39] <Crooper> limpc, i have seen problems with sd and sdhc but only in readers 8 years or older
[03:39] <limpc> Crooper, hmm its not quite that old. maybe 3 years old
[03:40] <limpc> anyway it wont let me mount it as read/write no matter what i do
[03:40] <limpc> i even disabled the physical pin on the chip in the reader (pin 74 of the AU6375 chip)
[03:40] <limpc> and its still registering it as write-protected
[03:40] <Crooper> then that shouldn't be a problem unless it's one of those new high performance sd's
[03:41] <escott> mahir256, maybe someone forgot to divide by 8 in the code. i dont know what filemanager you are using that is reporting these numbers but try baobob
[03:41] <mahir256> @escott: using pcmanfm 0.9.10
[03:42] <limpc> Crooper,  its this one http://www3.pny.com/32GB-Premium-Secure-Digital-High-Capacity-SDHC-Class-4-P2676C476.aspx?UserID=51492332&SessionID=LNYcLPgq7xcYhIbqNqTy
[03:42] <lorddelta> Hello...I would like a recommendation for a good torrent program: preferrably command line, encryption/port features, daemon based, with optional gui/text based configuration. Suggestions?
[03:42] <escott> mahir256, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=115516
[03:42] <chris__> have any of you ran the command 'whatis linux'
[03:42] <Sav1or> ATTENTION UBUNTU BABIES, SUDO RM -RF / MAKES YOU GOD
[03:42] <limpc> wow someone has issues
[03:42] <Crooper> yeah, one of those... that's more in likely your problem... newer card and older reader
[03:43] <chris__> that doesnt work savlor
[03:43] <limpc> thats the 2nd time he came in here with that crap
[03:43] <lorddelta> ...you can remove him?
[03:43] <lorddelta> i.e. ban?
[03:43] <mahir256> @escott: thank you so much
[03:43] <limpc> Crooper, probably. ill buy a new reader tmw
[03:43] <chris__> with ubuntu youd need to do sudo rm -rf /*
[03:43] <escott> hmmm now im getting a cannot find glibc error
[03:43] <lorddelta> chris__: I'm kinda tempted to setup a vm to test this now :D
[03:43] <JoshDreamland> chris__: Debian happily removed /
[03:44] <escott> lorddelta, its fun to do at some point
[03:44] <jamiejackson> hi folks. i installed oracle java7 on ubuntu, according to: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55848/how-do-i-install-oracle-java-jdk-7 java -version shows the right thing for me; however, in my son's account, java doesn't appear to be installed
[03:44] <chris__> lorddelta, JoshDreamland Id actually tryed it out. sudo rm -rf / doesnt work but sudo rm -rf /* does
[03:44] <mahir256> also, how can you uninstall firefox without installing chromium? or vice versa? every time i uninstall one the other HAS to be reinstalled, even though i have both midori and seamonkey as defaults
[03:44] <jamiejackson> what's the missing link?
[03:44] <escott> jamiejackson, sun java can no longer be distributed by cannonical
[03:45] <chris__> escott, do 'whatis linux'
[03:45] <jamiejackson> hi escott, i didn't do it from apt
[03:45] <lorddelta> Hey...
[03:45] <lorddelta> I wonder if you could run torrent over websockets...
[03:45] <lorddelta> Prolly can.
[03:46] <lorddelta> (sorry just learning the protocols)
[03:46] <escott> jamiejackson, so its the same machine and you did the update-alternatives bit? what does his java show?
[03:47] <jamiejackson> "The program 'java' can be found in the following packages: ..." <= like it's not installed, escott . same machine that i did the update-alternatives, and my account seems to be good
[03:47] <escott> jamiejackson, what is his path?
[03:48] <jamiejackson> $PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[03:48] <escott> jamiejackson, and ls -l /usr/bin/java says what?
[03:49] <shai> what do the command "sudo apt-get --purge"?
[03:49] <jamiejackson> escott:  /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java
[03:50] <escott> and what does /etc/alternatives/java point to
[03:50] <fn-troll> escott: Figured it out. It's "Add bookmark" from within Nautilus
[03:50] <escott> fn-troll, ok... not sure what the question was anymore
[03:50] <jamiejackson> escott: /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0/bin/java
[03:51] <fn-troll> 22:18:32 < fn-troll> In gnome, how do I modify the list of "Places" on the left in file dialog boxes etc?
[03:51] <escott> fn-troll, ok
[03:51]  * Crooper does a dance
[03:51] <escott> jamiejackson, and in his account /usr/bin/java --version says what
[03:52] <jamiejackson> ah, permissions issue
[03:52] <jamiejackson> he's got permission denied, escott
[03:52] <mahir256> seriously, why does apt/synaptic do this alternation of browsers?
[03:53] <escott> shai, man apt-get | grep -C3 purge
[03:53] <shai> escott: thanks
[03:54] <Crooper> mahir256, i just 'sudo apt-get remove firefox'
[03:55] <jamiejackson> aha, escott, the oracle java folder belongs to me
[03:55] <escott> jamiejackson, also you really should not have installed to /usr/lib. you should have installed to either /usr/local or /opt. those are the only two folders that apt is not supposed to control
[03:56] <mahir256> @Crooper: hmmm, so it didn't work when uninstalling chromium, but it worked when uninstalling firefox. thanks again!
[03:56] <Crooper> mahir256, yw
[03:56] <escott> mahir256, did you say chromium or chromium-browser?
[03:57] <jamiejackson> ok, escott, just following http://askubuntu.com/questions/55848/how-do-i-install-oracle-java-jdk-7 <= maybe i'll say something
[03:57] <Crooper> mahir256, i just 'sudo apt-get remove chromium-browser'
[03:57] <escott> jamiejackson, yeah you should
[03:58] <Crooper> escott, u're on the ball aren't you?
[03:58] <Crooper> go ahead wit ur bad self
[03:59] <escott> Crooper, ok?
[03:59] <mahir256> @escott: i tried both chromium and chromium-browser. anyway the problem has been rectified - in other news, why is seamonkey no longer part of the main repositories?
[04:00] <Crooper> it was a compliment
[04:00] <escott> mahir256, chromium is a 2d side scroller.... fun but not a browser
[04:00] <escott> !info chromium
[04:00] <escott> maybe they renamed it b/c of confusion
[04:01] <escott> !info chromium-bsu
[04:01] <escott> there it is
[04:01] <etfb> I just upgraded my wife's laptop from 10.04 (Gnome) to 12.04 (Unity).  She hates it.  Hate hate hate hate LOATHE.  What are her options?  In particular, the whole thing with the dock hiding windows and making it impossible to flip between them without complex and counter-intuitive mouse calisthenics?  Dead loss.  Took me a year to get used to it, but she hates it.
[04:02] <escott> !notunity
[04:02] <chris__> escott, I just learned a new command. Have you ever used the write command?
[04:03] <shai> why when i try to run gnome-shell (is just installed on my pc) runs gnome2...?
[04:03] <escott> chris__, yes and no. the problem with write is that sure you can write to someone, but its soooooo infrequently used that im not sure i would even recognize if another user did write to me
[04:04] <escott> shai, (a) are you selecting gnome-shell or gnome-panel (b) [at least in 11.10] it had a fallback mode that looked like gnome2 but was really gnome3 based
[04:04] <escott> !fallback
[04:04] <jamiejackson> anyone know how to add a comment to an answer in askubuntu.com? i logged in, and i seem to be able to *edit* an answer, but i don't see how to comment
[04:05] <chris__> escott, could the write command be disabled. Someone could create a script to annoy another user and id like to be able to stop it
[04:05] <etfb> escott: Thx.
[04:05] <escott> jamiejackson, click on "improve this answer"
[04:05] <shai> escott: i have ubuntu 12.04, i think is gnome-shell but i not shure... i think is gnome.shell and it looks like gnome2 (i said that because the notifications of sound and things like that are of the gnome3)
[04:05] <shai> how i can fix it?
[04:06] <escott> shai, what does ps aux | grep gnome-panel say?
[04:06] <shai> escott: semasad  15424  2.5  0.7 638156 31636 ?        Sl   00:00   0:08 gnome-panel semasad  15831  0.0  0.0  13600   932 pts/0    S+   00:06   0:00 grep --color=auto gnome-panel
[04:06] <jamiejackson> thanks, escott . i don't see that option. maybe i don't have enough *points* since i just signed up
[04:06] <shai> gnome-panel...
[04:07] <escott> shai, so you are running panel which is a forwardported version of the panel from gnome2 to gtk3 (But many applets were lost) so yes it basically is gnome2. if you are selecting shell and getting panel its probably a graphics card issue
[04:07] <escott> jamiejackson, below the answer above the comments to the answer
[04:07] <shai> escott: i have recent install the graphic card driver...
[04:08] <escott> shai, you could try gnome-shell --replace in terminal and see what it says
[04:08] <assenga> ssh problems,how to join
[04:09] <escott> chris__, man write indicates users can block write from all but root with mesg
[04:09] <escott> !details | assenga
[04:10] <shai> escott: i do the command, and i log off... the same problem... starts gnome2...
[04:10] <escott> shai, you mean your gui crashes and you have to login again?
[04:10] <assenga> ubottu:i dont understand your prob...
[04:11] <shai> escott: mmm... no, something (i think the gui) have said have break... but dosent close... i log off...
[04:11] <escott> shai, you are forcibly logged out when you run gnome-shell --replace
[04:11] <Crooper> assenga, type 'man ssh' in your terminal and it'll give you instructions
[04:12] <shai> escott: no... i log off manualy....
[04:12] <escott> shai, im confused. why are you logging out?
[04:12] <shai> escott: to restart the gui...
[04:12] <escott> shai, why?
[04:13] <assenga> thangs Crooper
[04:13] <Crooper> assenga, yw
[04:13] <shai> escott: to try reboot gnome, and see if that can fix my problem...
[04:13] <Abhijit> shai, do you want to restart gnome shell?
[04:13] <smatt454> Hello, could someone please help me with a port forward/remote server config issue.  I'll pm as to not spam the room.
[04:13] <jamiejackson> escott, am i blind? http://imagebin.org/214824
[04:13] <escott> shai, i thought the problem was that you wanted gnome-shell. so you run gnome-shell --replace and what happens?
[04:13] <shai> Abhijit: nop... i have install gnome-shell but starts gnome2
[04:14] <Abhijit> ok
[04:14] <escott> jamiejackson, try "edit" next to "link" below "How do I install Oracle's JDK 6"
[04:14] <shai> escott: ubuntu pop out a mensage of error, but dosent force to me to reboot.
[04:14] <dr_willis> you mean it does the gnome shell fallback mode..
[04:14] <dr_willis> shai:  you have insgtalled the3d drivers for your system?
[04:14] <escott> shai, so you get an error but gnome-shell doesn't start. what was the error
[04:15] <smatt454> If not, could someone direct me to a room that may be better suited? The server is running ubuntu 12.04, that's why i came here
[04:15] <chris__> escott, it could be annoying for someone to do 'while(true); do sudo cat /* | write chris; done' - found another use for "|"
[04:15] <jamiejackson> escott: yeah i seem to be able to edit, but not to comment :-/
[04:15] <bazhang> smatt454, #ubuntu-server
[04:15] <Crooper> smatt454, what is the problem?
[04:15] <smatt454> thank you
[04:15] <shai> escott: the clasic error of ubuntu founds an error on something... and report it... and on the terminal says: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:15] <escott> shai, you dont have the drivers for opengl on you computer
[04:16] <assenga> crooper,my compiz in ubuntu 12.04 have conflicts always why
[04:16] <dr_willis> shai:  you have installed the 3d drivers for your system?
[04:16] <shai> dr_willis: i dont think...
[04:16] <escott> chris__, these days most people wont even have a tty to write to. so its all rather moot
[04:16] <dr_willis> shai:  sowhats  your video card?
[04:17] <Crooper> assenga, i can't help with that one... i don't use compiz
[04:17] <shai> dr_willis: is a nvidia geforce 520mx...
[04:17] <escott> goodnight everyone. goodluck shai, chris__
[04:17] <smatt454> assenga, what kind of conflicts?
[04:17] <Crooper> cya es
[04:17] <dr_willis> shai run the 'addational drivers' tool and install them. (or run jockey-gtk from the terminal)
[04:18] <shai> Dragnslcr: how?
[04:18] <assenga> smatt454,sometimes it freez until when i force to switct off and restart again
[04:19] <smatt454> assenga, what video card are you using, what plugins are you running, and what kind of usage usually prompts it to freeze?
[04:20] <smatt454> assenga, what video card are you using, what plugins are you running, and what kind of usage usually prompts it to freeze?
[04:20] <smatt454> oops
[04:21] <assenga> smatt454,i use nvidia cuardo,i try to run rotating cubes,freeze for atlanta
[04:21] <dr_willis> assenga:  its best that you forget about tht cube.. unity and the cube can have issues
[04:22] <dr_willis> many compiz settings can mess with unity
[04:22] <swooshonln> am I still online?
[04:22] <smatt454> assenga, I agree.  The cube can cause conflicts in many instances.
[04:22] <swooshonln> damn
[04:22] <smatt454> I do like it, but sometimes it's just not worth it
[04:22] <swooshonln> I have been idle here for a while, how do I find out?
[04:23] <dr_willis> swooshonln:  hmm?
[04:23] <dr_willis> you see messages? :) then yoiu are online
[04:23] <assenga> dr_willis,what are problems with these cubes because they seems they are very bad to comp..
[04:24] <dr_willis> assenga:  problem line... compiz crashing, or unity crashing... 'friends dont let friends use the cube'
[04:24] <swooshonln> how do I find out how long I have been online for?
[04:24] <swooshonln> on a IRC client, is there a command?
[04:24] <assenga> smatt454,what could we do so
[04:24] <dr_willis> the cube was cute eyecandy for a while.. its time  for it to die
[04:25] <Linuxero> hola :)
[04:25] <smatt454> assenga, so what?
[04:25] <delac> swooshonln: check the timestamp of he first message in the log?
[04:25] <dr_willis> swooshonln:  to do what exactly? this is irc.. of course you are on an irc client. ;)
[04:26] <assenga> dr_wills,so which are safe and best effect to run
[04:26] <dr_willis> assenga:  best.. leave it alone.. use the defaults.. dont play with ccsm
[04:26] <baz> anybody know about unmet dependencies in flash plugins?/
[04:26] <Crooper> assenga, right click on your destop and undo graphic effects
[04:26] <assenga> samtt454,to do with these cubes
[04:26] <swooshonln> dr_willis, yes exactly my point. There are universal commands. Is there some one like /info that shows you online statistics?
[04:27] <dr_willis> swooshonln:  try /whois yournick
[04:27] <smatt454> assenga, I mainly use the cubes when I'm using nothing else that is resource intensive.
[04:27] <assenga> dr_wills,thangs
[04:27] <dr_willis> the cubes best use - to show off to windows users. ;)
[04:27] <smatt454> let's say i'm on irc, programming, playing a game of chess, etc
[04:27] <yuvateja> i forgot my sql password. how to recover it ?
[04:28] <swooshonln> dr_willis, thanks man. 5 days idle!
[04:28] <Linuxero> hi i has many problems with the depend when i try to compile the "./configure" throw this: configure: libXxf86vm development files not found, XFree86 Vidmode won't be supported.
[04:28] <Linuxero> configure: libxcomposite development files not found, Xcomposite won't be supported.
[04:28] <Linuxero> configure: OpenCL development files not found, OpenCL won't be supported.
[04:28] <Linuxero> configure: libdbus development files not found, no dynamic device support.
[04:28] <Linuxero> configure: libsane development files not found, scanners won't be supported.
[04:28] <Linuxero> configure: libv4l development files not found.
[04:28] <Linuxero> configure: libgphoto2 development files not found, digital cameras won't be supported.
[04:28] <Linuxero> configure: gstreamer-0.10 base plugins development files not found, gstreamer support disabled
[04:28] <FloodBot1> Linuxero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <Linuxero> configure: OSS sound system found but too old (OSSv4 needed), OSS won't be supported.
[04:28] <Linuxero> configure: libcapi20 development files not found, ISDN won't be supported.
[04:28] <smatt454> also i used 11.10 and dont have too many problems even when im doing something like running a graphically intense game with wine
[04:28] <smatt454> download those files
[04:29] <assenga> i delete my password in terminal how to return it in terminal
[04:29] <gigglesworth> @yuvateja : See http://www.howtoforge.com/reset-forgotten-mysql-root-password
[04:29] <smatt454> Linuxero, open your package manager and start it or used apt-get those files
[04:30] <Boohbah> Linuxero:
[04:30] <Boohbah> Well, making the release anonymously is a prudent thing to do, whoever made the decision. If it was a decision of the administration, it would be campaign fodder for the opposition, because the administration would be sacrificing national security for political reasons. If it was a decision of an individual acting alone, he or she probably doesn't want to share a cell with Bradley Manning.
[04:30] <Boohbah> oops :)
[04:30] <smatt454> assenga, do you have a root password or another user with root access?
[04:31] <Boohbah> Linuxero: what i meant to say was: http://pastie.org/
[04:31] <Linuxero> smatt454> i need to add some repository for this ? do you have some XD
[04:31] <assenga> smatt454,a root password
[04:31] <Crooper> su
[04:31] <yuvateja> gigglesworth:thanku
[04:32] <OerHeks> assenga there is no root password, the first user has sudo/root priv. so how did you delete it tru terminal?
[04:32] <Crooper> !su
[04:33] <smatt454> Linuxero, giyf :)
[04:33] <smatt454> assenga, sudo passwd [user]
[04:33] <smatt454> assenga, wait, not sudo
[04:34] <smatt454> assenga, su -c "passwd [user]"
[04:34] <assenga> OerHeks,i change my working dir. to root then i pssword -d,from there no pssword again
[04:34] <smatt454> assenga, the first prompt will be for you to put in your root password
[04:35] <assenga> smatt454,lets me do it
[04:36] <mcored> do you guys think it is a smart idea to hook up HDDs with exFAT format to ubuntu?
[04:36] <mcored> i have four HDDs all together, 2 of which i am prepared to format and mount as / and /home
[04:36] <mcored> the other 2 HDDs are exFAT and i will be using them as well
[04:38] <Crooper> mcored, exFat?
[04:42] <panterarav> hello, I'm in a bit of a catch 33... I'm on 9.04, and it won't let me go to 9.10 (errors out mid source detection)  Where can I get 10.04?  (I can't go directly to 12.04 due to PAE issue)
[04:43] <Flannel> panterarav: You can change your sources to point to old-releases.ubuntu.com, and that'll have 9.10 (so you can upgrade).  Or you can reinstall with 10.04, from 10.04 discs, releases.ubuntu.com
[04:44] <windbuntu> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[04:44] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty
[04:45] <OerHeks> fastest way is backup data & reinstall
[04:45] <OerHeks> that avoids the old grub upgrade problems too
[04:45] <windbuntu> wouldn't it be cool if everytime you reinstalled buntu, the installer would place al your data and settings into a file called ubuntu.old
[04:47] <panterarav> ok, so better to start with lucid it appears.
[04:48] <sysdoc> If I boot into text mode without the nvidia driver installed the screen is unreadable, ironically i'm trying to boot to the text mode to install the new 173 driver a from nvidia..
[04:48] <panterarav> This adventure started when I thought it would be cool to stick an IDE SSD in my T42 laptop.  lol  Only to find PAE was an issue with 12.04... and then the mini.iso won't do 48bit lba  LOL
[04:48] <panterarav> managed to get 9.04 to see the SSD properly and lay down a small grub /boot and I thought I was golden ...
[04:49] <panterarav> Will download and give lucid a spin.  Much appreciated!
[04:49] <windbuntu> 10-4
[04:49] <sysdoc> Anyone have a solution with maybe a grub kernel boot option?
[04:50] <sysdoc> !nomodeset
[04:52] <Harris> how can i tell if my pc has a ptm chip
[04:53] <OerHeks> What is a ptm chip, harris?
[04:53] <Harris> OerHeks,  i meant tpm
[04:54] <OerHeks> so, what is that ?
[04:55] <Harris> built in security chip
[04:57] <OerHeks> Harris, Check the vendor site?
[04:57] <_ari> Can somebody help with a 4 line long bat file.. need to know what it's doing... should probably just take a sec if somebody knows bat. files? plz somebody help!
[04:57] <dj_segfault> They'll tout it as a feature :]
[04:57] <dj_segfault> _ari: pastebin it
[04:58] <dj_segfault> _ari: When you say bat do you mean DOS batch file?
[04:59] <allejo> what makes a .deb file specifically different from an ar file? how would i got about creating a valid .deb file by just using tar, gzip, and ar? I wouldn't be using this .deb file for a repository, it's mainly for my own knowledge
[04:59] <_ari> dj_segfault: yes, but 4 lines long.. it probably is just copying some files so maybe i can do this manually.. or somebody can translate it to a shell script
[04:59] <_ari> will pastebin
[04:59] <_ari> w8
[04:59] <dj_segfault> Ah, then it's relevant.
[05:00] <_ari> http://pastebin.com/icnBRE9d
[05:01] <Naeblis> I have a strange problem. When I set a desktop wallpaper from the image viewer in Natty, it doesn't changes immediately, although it should. I have to go in background properties and click on some random wallpaper and then click back.
[05:02] <dj_segfault> _ari: That's running the Blizzard updater.  That's a Windows program.  Are you trying to run it in Wine?
[05:02] <_ari> yes
[05:02] <_ari> can't start bat file in wine though
[05:03] <_ari> just wanna recreate the few steps the bat file does
[05:03] <_ari> "wine cmd update.bat" didn't work (and yes, was in the right dir etc)
[05:03] <assenga_> have install wine
[05:04] <sacarlson> Harris:  you should be able to see all your systems hardware features seen by linux with sudo lshw;
[05:04] <dj_segfault> _ari: The fourth line is the only one that does something.  So you want to go into the support directory and type 'wine .\Blizzard Updater.exe" --locale="enGB" --patchlist="..\Updates\sc2-1-22280-x86-Win-enGB-bnet-bin" --patchlist="..\Updates\sc2-5760-6699-x86-Win-enGB-bnet-base" --patchlist="..\Updates\sc2-15405-16117-x86-Win-enGB-campaign" --patchlist="..\Updates\sc2-15405-16117-x86-Win-enGB-game" --patchlist="..\Upda
[05:05] <_ari> that'll work
[05:05] <_ari> ?
[05:05] <_ari> that easy
[05:05] <_ari> will try
[05:05] <FloodBot1> _ari: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:05] <dj_segfault> _ari: what happens when you try to run the script?
[05:06] <_ari> dj_segfault: with "wine cmd" -> "file not found"
[05:07] <dj_segfault> _ari: What exactly did you type in to run the batch file?
[05:08] <_ari> dj_segfault: "wine cmd" -> "cd /dir/subdir/subsubdir" -> "update.bat"
[05:09] <_ari> dj_segfault: "cd /dir/subdir/subsubdir" being ofc the right path towards the bat file :D
[05:09] <dj_segfault> _ari: Does the directory /dir/subdir/subsubdir/Support exist?
[05:09] <_ari> also did "chmod 777 update.bat" since i thougt my it was a permission issue
[05:09] <_ari> dj_segfault: yes it does!
[05:11] <dj_segfault> _ari: try: ./update.bat (dot slash before the script name) and .\update.bat (dot backslash before the script name).
[05:11] <sacarlson>  allejo:  you can ture source into a deb with dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot  http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2006/08/16/Building-deb-package-from-source
[05:11] <smango> okay I have a weird question, remember how the window buttons in 10.04 were shiny? is there any way to get that in 12.04? is there a name for that theme? or did they call that Ambiance too?
[05:12] <mcored> yeah Crooper exfat
[05:13] <_ari> dj_segfault problem solved thanks
[05:14] <onizu> hi
[05:14] <dj_segfault> _ari: Which worked?
[05:15] <onizu> I am trying to connect my bluetooth mouse. It got detected and prompting for authorisation request
[05:15] <_ari> dj_segfault: was writing you in /query: "was able to execute the bat file with ".\Update.bat" instead of "Update.bat" with the cmd console of wine"
[05:15] <onizu> I keep clicking on "Always accept" or "Accept" or "Default Action" , but the dialog never goes away
[05:16] <onizu> and hence the mouse isn't getting activated
[05:16] <_ari> dj_segfault: thank you big time! ;)
[05:16] <OerHeks> onizu, any BT device has its own 4 digit code
[05:16] <onizu> on win7 i didn't require any code..
[05:17] <dj_segfault> _ari: The problem is the current directory isn't in your path.  Glad I could help.
[05:17] <OerHeks> onizu, check the manual. sometimes it is just 0000
[05:18] <dj_segfault> onizu: you my need to do something on the mouse to initiate pairing.  Most BT devices have that
[05:18] <onizu> in the manual it says - check "don't use a passcode"
[05:18] <OerHeks> onizu so anyone can use your mouse? very safe !
[05:19] <onizu> dj_segfault, yeah, i pressed the connect button, as per the manual, the green light blinks for pairing.. the problem is in ubuntu it keeps prompting me that a mouse is trying to connect and whether to authorise. I keep clicking "Accept" but never goes away..
[05:20] <sacarlson> onizu: is this from the bluetooth manager?
[05:20] <onizu> i don't know from where
[05:21] <onizu> a notification pops up on the tray
[05:21] <allejo> sacarlson, thank you but i don't want to use dpkg in general, i'm trying to figure out what dpkg does that ar doesn't
[05:21] <gleg> Hi!  I'm installing 12.04 (64bit) on a Dell Inspiron M5010 with an AMD processor and the live USB almost makes it through boot up but hangs right at the end.  I'm left with a mouse that moves and a blank desktop.  I can switch to any of my alt terminals and get a responsive prompt, but switching back to X gives me nothing.  Any ideas?
[05:21] <dj_segfault> onizu: Acceptance is the fourth stage of dealing with grief, and can be very difficult ;)
[05:22] <onizu> :)
[05:22] <sacarlson> allejo: I'm not sure what ar is.  is that some file type like tar?
[05:22] <onizu> well, i'll try rebooting
[05:24] <allejo> sacarlson, tar replaced ar but .deb files use the ar format. i'm not sure if tar would work also. ar is a unix archive utility
[05:25] <sacarlson> allejo: yes I just looked it up,  you can also uncopress .deb files as they are just a compressed set of files
[05:26] <sacarlson> allejo: just the renamed end to *.deb is normaly auto selected to be acted opon by dpkg to install on a debian/ubuntu env
[05:27] <allejo> sacarlson, yes, I figured out the uncompression part but I can't seem to put everything back together in order to be a valid .deb file that dpkg can read
[05:27] <sacarlson> allejo: that's all auto done with the tools I showed you
[05:28] <manu_cordo> HI ALL
[05:28] <allejo> I may sound stubborn or ignorant right now, but I want to learn how those tools work and what they do that's special. i've been reading through the dpkg source and no luck lately
[05:28] <sacarlson> allejo: there are documents on the deb format if you want to work without the tools
[05:28] <Harris> what is the top bar of ubuntu window called
[05:29] <anil> hi
[05:29] <allejo> oohh where would those documents be? I haven't found anything on the .deb format that doesn't mention to make the .deb file with dpkg
[05:29] <Harris> OerHeks,  do you know
[05:30] <Harris>  what is the top bar of ubuntu window called
[05:31] <sacarlson> allejo: there are tons of info on them but look for debian in your search http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkg_basics.en.html
[05:33] <sacarlson> allejo: dpkg I think is used to install not make,  if you want to make you should reverse enginer the tool  dpkg-buildpackage
[05:34] <allejo> there's the --build option for dpkg also. but i'll look at dpkg-buildpackage also maybe i can have some luck there
[05:34] <neglesaks> whats up with the changes display in update manager? essentially none of my updates pending has the "list of changes" displayed?
[05:35] <GUser1111> !screenshot
[05:36] <manu_cordo> !lista
[05:36] <gleg> Hey everyone!  I'm installing 12.04, but all I get to is a movable mouse and a blank background.  All my alt terminals seem to be working fine.  Any ideas would be appreciated!  Thanks!
[05:37] <GUser1111> I need help please. Ubuntu 12.04 64-Bit keeps crashing http://imagebin.org/214837
[05:39] <sacarlson> GUser1111: I assume the show details show nothing?
[05:40] <GUser1111> sacarlson Yes it did but nothing I could understand, But I always submit every crash to ubuntu
[05:40] <GUser1111> I think my system may be too advanced for ubuntu?
[05:40] <sacarlson> GUser1111: well if it showed something then that should have been the picture to send us, maybe we would have a better idea
[05:41] <sacarlson> GUser1111: so it must not be crashed then if the mouse still moves and actions still happen
[05:42] <GUser1111> I'm running 1 x 120GB SSD SATA3 as / sdb Segate 1TB SATA3 as /sda ATI Radeon HD 6770 PCI-E 2.1 Intel 2nd Gen i7Core 2600 USB3.0
[05:43] <_jeet> join #centos
[05:43] <Abhijit> Is there any automated process to convert libreoffice docs into images?
[05:43] <GUser1111> How can I check if ubuntu is working correctly?
[05:43] <GUser1111> like if all drivers were found etc...
[05:47] <sacarlson> GUser1111: you should be able to open a term and look at the logs to get an idea
[05:47] <gleg> Abhijit:  Does PDF count?  libreoffice can output pdfs can't it?  Then one could possibly use the 'convert' command to create an image file.  Just an idea.
[05:47] <GUser1111> Sorry but i/m very new to linux I do not know what command to use?
[05:47] <sacarlson> GUser1111: take a look at /var/log/system file
[05:48] <GUser1111> Thank-You
[05:48] <GUser1111> no logs
[05:49] <GUser1111> corsair@CARBIDE-300R:~$ /var/log/system file bash: /var/log/system: No such file or directory corsair@CARBIDE-300R:~$ sudo /var/log/system file [sudo] password for corsair:  sudo: /var/log/system: command not found corsair@CARBIDE-300R:~$
[05:50] <Abhijit> gleg, i wanted docs  to be converte into images so that i can put trasnparaent copyright marks on them
[05:50] <Abhijit> using gimp
[05:50] <sacarlson> GUser1111: don't run it look at it like with $less /var/log/system
[05:50] <GUser1111> oh ok..
[05:50] <sacarlson> GUser1111: or editor of your choosing
[05:50] <GUser1111> ok
[05:51] <Harris> Darael,  how do i make tomboy start on login
[05:51] <sacarlson> Harris: at login or at power up?
[05:52] <Harris> when i login
[05:52] <gleg> Abhijit: Then I think that will work. Export your document as a PDF, then Gimp can import the PDFs.
[05:52] <Abhijit> gleg, ok
[05:53] <Harris> sacarlson,  login
[05:53] <GUser1111> ok found all the logs heres just 1 of them: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1019094/
[05:54] <sacarlson> Harris: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[05:55] <Harris> what would i type in command
[05:56] <qawsedrf1> i don't understand the +s chmod mode, can someon explain ?
[05:57] <max3> can someone help me out? im trying to use hyperterminal with my 3g modem but it keeps scrolling the signal strength (rssi:6). anyone know how to turn that off?
[05:58] <GUser1111> All of these seem to have the same codes as for why they crashed: _usr_bin_nautilus.1000, _usr_bin_update-notifier.1000,_usr_lib_gnome-settings-daemon_gnome-settings-daemon.1000,_usr_lib_indicator-datetime_indicator-datetime-service.1000,_usr_lib_notify-osd_notify-osd.1000,_usr_lib_unity_unity-panel-service.1000
[05:59] <GUser1111> sacarlson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1019094/
[06:01] <max3> can someone help me out? im trying to use hyperterminal with my 3g modem but it keeps scrolling the signal strength (rssi:6). anyone know how to turn that off?
[06:06] <DonaldKeyz> all the sudden it hangs on the purple boot screen, i have to boot into an earlier kernel
[06:06] <pathfinder> wanna find a girl)))
[06:06] <Boohbah> pathfinder: this channel is for ubuntu support
[06:06] <pathfinder> I see
[06:06] <DonaldKeyz> yes, go on
[06:08] <GUser1111> Anyone have any idea to why ubuntu 12.04 64-bit keeps crashing?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1019094/
[06:09] <c31r2g> GUser1111: hmm because of a bug
[06:10]  * rymate1234 is trying mate
[06:10] <GUser1111> c3lr2g is this bug a known bug?
[06:11] <GUser1111> Because  all of these seem to have the same codes as for why they crashed: _usr_bin_nautilus.1000, _usr_bin_update-notifier.1000,_usr_lib_gnome-settings-daemon_gnome-settings-daemon.1000,_usr_lib_indicator-datetime_indicator-datetime-service.1000,_usr_lib_notify-osd_notify-osd.1000,_usr_lib_unity_unity-panel-service.1000
[06:11] <c31r2g> GUser1111: I am guessing you can find it on bug list in ubuntu forums
[06:11] <c31r2g> that is the best place too look after ircs
[06:11] <GUser1111> How can I be sure that ubuntu found all my drivers?
[06:11] <YALex> Hello, can anyone help me change my locale (en_AU) so it shows time in 12 hour format?
[06:12] <dr_willis> forums and askubuntu.com are good sources
[06:12] <GUser1111> or if my motherboard even supports ubuntu?
[06:12] <dr_willis> GUser1111:  only drivers that are normally needed to be found are for wireless. and video.
[06:12] <dr_willis> GUser1111:  will depend on the chipset of the mb and now new it is
[06:13] <dr_willis> !hcl
[06:13] <dr_willis> any hardware list will always be out of date. the new hardware release is just soo fast. ;)
[06:13] <neglesaks> whats up with the changes display in update manager? essentially none of my updates pending has the "list of changes" displayed? "The list of changes is not available yet." - sorry for restatign question
[06:14] <GUser1111> Intel Z68 Express Chipset
[06:14] <GUser1111> Its an Asus MB
[06:15] <dr_willis> check th eforums and google see if other linux users have issues with it.
[06:15] <amanthakur> hi Guys, I have a program in C++ that runs with the root priviledges. Its using the setuid(0) in the main function to start the daemon program. I was trying to make it for the normal to run it. Could anyone of you help me achieving that?
[06:15] <GUser1111> ok well I willlet it run for another day and see if it happens again
[06:15] <GUser1111> Thanks guys
[06:15] <dr_willis> 'make it for the normal to run it'     means what:
[06:17] <amanthakur> dr_willis, i am trying to code it for normal user.
[06:18] <Ritlee> So... I have an interesting situation,  I just replaced my wifi card in my laptop (HP Envy 3D) to supposedly an Atheros Card, but both windows and Ubuntu claim that it's not the card, in fact I think it's still thinking it's the original card, lscpi output is 09:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6230 [8086:0090] (rev 34), ifconfig says the mac address is 88:53:2e:70:a3:32... the sticker on the card itself says the MAC address
[06:18] <Ritlee>  is 00:17:C4:EF:FD:CC... anyone seen anything like this?  Did I taken when I bought my "Atheros" card?
[06:18] <dr_willis> code that is ran by a normal user that then exclates itself to root priviliages? sounds like a huge security hole.
[06:19] <dr_willis> amanthakur:  i think you would be better off using sudo, or suid the binary as needed.  but i dont code much ;)
[06:19] <amanthakur> dr_willis, actually program is using sticky bit permission right now to run it through a script.
[06:19] <dr_willis> Ritlee:  ive seen some laptops have a locked down list of what wireless cards work with  them. No idea if  this is the case in your problem or not.
[06:20] <dr_willis> Ritlee:  what if you removce the card and power up. What does it report then?
[06:20] <max3> can someone help me out? im trying to use hyperterminal with my 3g modem but it keeps scrolling the signal strength (rssi:6). anyone know how to turn that off?
[06:20] <Ritlee> dr_willis, would that still allow the supposed atheros to function under the name of the Intel?
[06:20] <DonaldKeyz> where do start? recovery mode hangs too
[06:21] <dr_willis> Ritlee:  no idea.        be  interesting if it reports the same card.. even if its been removed,
[06:21] <John_S> ping
[06:21] <dr_willis> DonaldKeyz:  live cd perhaps?
[06:21] <Ritlee> dr_willis, I haven't removed the new card yet... it's another step I'm going to be doing, just wanted to see if anyone has seen this before
[06:22] <dr_willis> Ritlee:  ive just heard that some laptops somehow are locked down where they only work with specific wireless cards.  Been ages since ive looked into it
[06:22] <John_S> is anybody in here good at device drivers, and if so, wanna help an Ubuntu newbie out?
[06:22] <dr_willis> !ask
[06:23] <John_S> ok gotcha
[06:23] <Ritlee> dr_willis, well I'll see what shows up, as well as what MAC is on the old card (isn't on the card itself where I can read it)
[06:24] <dalek_> i am using Ubuntu 11.10. Currently empathy chat auto-loads on startup as the default chat client. How do I make Pidgin load instead as the default chat client?
[06:26] <qawsedrf1> i don't understand the +s chmod mode, can someon explain ?
[06:27] <dr_willis> thats the SUID bit?
[06:27] <dr_willis> !suid
[06:27] <dr_willis> i recall some wikipedia page detailing it.
[06:28] <r3novatio> Hello... all
[06:28] <keith__> hiiiii
[06:28] <r3novatio> :)
[06:29] <gleg> Hey everyone!  I'm installing 12.04, but all I get to is a movable mouse and a blank background.  All my alt terminals seem to be working fine.  Any ideas would be appreciated!  Thanks!
[06:29] <kevtucker> !suid
[06:30] <dr_willis> www.google.com/gwt/x?gl=US&hl=en-US&u=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid&client=ms-opera-mini-beta-android&q=suid+bit+wikipedia&ei=x7LJT92hBaPK2AWN08TaCw&sa=X&ct=res&resnum=1&ved=0CA0QFjAA
[06:30] <dr_willis> silly phone browser. gave me a weird url ;)
[06:31] <dr_willis> i will say opera mini - works very well on my android phone ;P
[06:31] <John_S> Hey folks! I am trying to install a RT2860 Ralink 80211n pci card on my desktop running Ubuntu 10.04. Not real sure how to do it, but I have the driver. Can anyone help me out?
[06:31] <Ritlee> dr_willis, here's an interesting turn of events... I supposedly have no wifi card installed... I'm guessing this mini-pcie port that is under the battery cover is not where the wifi adapter is... even though there are two leads that looks just like the antenna leads
[06:32] <dr_willis> Ritlee:  the extent of my laptop wifi knowledge. is basically removeing them from broken laptops - and putting them in a box.. just in case i need them for some other laptpops :)
[06:32] <r3novatio> Hi john, have u tried to installl firmware-ralink wireless-tools?
[06:33] <r3novatio> you can install firmware-ralink wireless-tools , maybe it help ...
[06:34] <Ritlee> ok, well i'm gonna see if google can tell me where this wifi adapter is ;)
[06:34] <r3novatio> and try this command #iwconfig
[06:35] <adv__> Hi all
[06:35] <John_S> where would I get a copy of those tools, and since I am dual booting (as I cant get online in linux) can I download what I need on my windows side?
[06:35] <qawsedrf1> dr_willis: what does that mean ? setuid, i dont understand entirely
[06:35] <VectorX> hi, i saw something where you can run windows apps on the linux gui, not with wine but sort of rdesktop'ish, but the win apps are directly on the linux gui, how do you do this/where can i get info ?
[06:36] <dr_willis> qawsedrf1: what part of it dont you unserstand? You want a executable to run as root, you can set its suid bit. like mentioned at
[06:36] <dr_willis> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid
[06:36] <Abhijit> VectorX, teamviewer?
[06:37] <VectorX> Abhijit no that wasnt it, there was no app name mentioned
[06:37] <dr_willis> theres also alternatives to teamviwer. I have some on my android. ;)
[06:37] <Abhijit> ok
[06:39] <dr_willis> vnc, teamviewer, splashtop
[06:39] <max3> god damnit how do i turn off rssi echo on my 3g modem
[06:39] <max3> ive been googling for 30 minutes and can't figure it out
[06:42] <qawsedrf1> VectorX: VirtualBoOSE
[06:42] <qawsedrf1> VirtualBoxSE
[06:42] <qawsedrf1> VirtualBoxOSE
[06:48] <qawsedrf1> dr_willis: so setuid basically gives the users who have `x` permission on a file, all permissions that the `u` has ?
[06:50] <adv__> bye
[06:50] <dr_willis> binary runs as  if it was ran by the files owner
[07:01] <allejo> sacarlson, so it turns out there's nothing special about a .deb file, the only thing that is required is for the files to be added to the .deb package in order
[07:01] <allejo> it's just an ordinary .ar package
[07:06] <SuperNoeMan> anybody know anything about ossec?
[07:07] <SuperNoeMan> I know that #ossec exists, but they are not talking, so...
[07:08] <Blackshirt> Supernoeman, what is ossec?
[07:08] <SuperNoeMan> ossec.net
[07:08] <Blackshirt> No play with them before
[07:09] <SuperNoeMan> I understand
[07:10] <Blackshirt> What the feature of ossec?
[07:10] <SuperNoeMan> its a HIDS tool: centralized monitoring and policy application, IDS, log management... blah blah blah
[07:10] <SuperNoeMan> its a really good security tool though
[07:11] <Blackshirt> Using linux kernel security framework?
[07:11] <SuperNoeMan> no, I'm on a mac host
[07:12] <SuperNoeMan> but I like ubuntu, run it in a VM
[07:12] <SuperNoeMan> mac host will run the server and the VMs will run the agents
[07:13] <Blackshirt> what component build from?selinux?iptables, nagios?
[07:13] <SuperNoeMan> don't understand what you're asking
[07:14] <SuperNoeMan> anyway, you're not knowledgable about ossec, I don't understand where this is going
[07:15] <Blackshirt> Okey guys, maybe the others here can help you..but maybe you want to share here about ossec
[07:15] <SuperNoeMan> sure, but your questions are very general, so I'm just saying try and get down to business
[07:16] <SuperNoeMan> I don't mean to be rude or cut you off, if you have some formal process, I'll keep going
[07:16] <mikeiee> is anyone here a pro php/mysql.
[07:17] <SuperNoeMan> not php, but I know some SQL
[07:18] <Blackshirt> Mikeiee, maybe there are someone here with good knowledge, just ask your question?
[07:19] <huttan> Anyone here who is familiar with installing trac/svn on ubuntu server and can help me out some?
[07:20] <judgen> Everytime i start ubuntu when not at home, i get during the splash very long boot times and "waiting for network" and something about 60 seconds, and the nm-connection-editor can not enable wireless any more, i had to use a cable just to be able to connect to IRC
[07:20] <judgen> when i am at home it works perfectly, as i installed ubuntu-desktop from over the net install and put in the SSID and password at install-
[07:21] <judgen> so my real question is  in short: How do i add additional network-ssid
[07:21] <judgen> s and
[07:21] <judgen> passwords
[07:22] <tuxgeek> scan for available networks
[07:23] <tuxgeek> wireless should be turned on though
[07:24] <deepspeed> best nsfw desktop evar..  http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-4fc9bf62f36398.32804097.png
[07:24] <janik> jk
[07:25] <judgen> tuxgeek, i have it scanned and i see other networks
[07:25] <tuxgeek> so what do you wanna do?
[07:25] <judgen> but i want to add additional SSID's
[07:25] <judgen> so i can use it directly
[07:26] <judgen> it is done in /etc/network/interfaces i think
[07:26] <judgen> but i do not remember
[07:28] <judgen> my current ssid is "wpa-ssid Dan" i could change this manually every time i boot, but i would prefer to add all of the ones i use.
[07:29] <tuxgeek> i know what you mean
[07:30] <judgen> great
[07:30] <tuxgeek> still trying to figure out which config file you have to edit
[07:30] <judgen> it is the /etc/network/interfaces
[07:31] <tuxgeek> if you"re so sure then edit the entries
[07:31] <tuxgeek> what's are you waiting for?
[07:31] <judgen> yeah, but what would be the correct way? just adding another might not work..
[07:36] <judgen> ok i will be givving it a try now
[07:58] <parallel>     type = "IRC";
[07:59] <parallel>     nick = "jasonwryan";
[07:59] <parallel>     autosendcmd = "/msg nickserv identify jasonwryan ******** ;wait 2000";
[07:59] <parallel>   };
[07:59] <parallel>   OFTC = {
[07:59] <parallel>     type = "IRC";
[07:59] <parallel>     nick = "jasonwryan";
[07:59] <FloodBot1> parallel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:00] <oCean> parallel: what are you doing?
[08:00] <gnomefreak> oCean: i think he has been muted
[08:00] <oCean> and unmuted
[08:05] <gnomefreak> nice and quit in the middle of the night :)
[08:05] <gnomefreak> quiet even
[08:05] <Notimik> hi is it possible to resize the task manager panel in kubuntu? now it is like 50% of the screen width and that is not cool :(
[08:06] <gnomefreak> ninjah: dud you try asking in #kubuntu?
[08:07] <gnomefreak> s/dud/did
[08:07] <Notimik> gnomefreak: oh they are spearete?
[08:07] <Notimik> separate
[08:08] <gnomefreak> Notimik: most of the time if they are there it is best to use thaqt channnel since you will find more people using KIDE
[08:08]  * gnomefreak not sure anyone is there
[08:08] <Notimik> will try there
[08:09] <Notimik> nice aftger i removed it and put it back it just takes 75% instead of 50% :/
[08:10] <gnomefreak> Notimik: can you resize it if you right click on it?
[08:10] <joseph__> Why does byobu look bad over ssh?
[08:10] <Notimik> gnomefreak: nope
[08:10]  * gnomefreak not have kubuntu installed atm
[08:11] <gnomefreak> btw Notimik getting an answer tonight may not happen, i wish i had it installded to help you but sorry
[08:12] <Notimik> gnomefreak: no problem, btw it is morning here in sweden so :)
[08:13] <gnomefreak> it is here its just really early
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> timezones
[08:14] <gnomefreak> brb
[08:18] <dafp> Hi, i'm looking for a free software wich can transform voices easily
[08:18] <blue^>  I installed Unity recently.. Since then, there is a menubar appearing whenever I'm not on unity... I want it removed.
[08:18] <blue^> i use lm12
[08:19] <Khmerog> Hi
[08:20] <parallel> asdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfj asdfasdfasdfasfas asdfasdfasf
[08:21] <Khmerog> Do u think i can run kubuntu on a i2330m?
[08:21] <parallel> Can't get irssi to wrap long lines on text
[08:23] <Myrtti> parallel: splitlong.pl
[08:23] <llutz> parallel autowrap.plautowrap.pl
[08:23] <llutz> parallel oops, autowrap.pl
[08:23] <sundar_> hi. i've got problems in update/package manager after upgrading to 12.04
[08:24] <sundar_> i am on a macbook pro 8,1
[08:24] <sundar_> the update manager says i have unmet dependencies for a list of libraries. could someone help how i can recover?
[08:31] <Guest58488> help
[08:32] <Guest58488> hy
[08:32] <Notimik> gnomefreak: a relog solved my problems
[08:33] <Khmerog> Sundar go to apple chat room
[08:33] <Khmerog> This is ubuntu which is linux
[08:36] <LjL> Khmerog: Ubuntu can run on Macs.
[08:37] <Jonii> Hey, for some reason brightness on my computer goes up and down randomly
[08:38] <Jonii> Is there any way to lock it to one specific setting, or even better, lock it to specific setting when on ac and one other when on battery
[08:41] <StarryNight> czesc janek
[08:41] <LjL> !cz | StarryNight
[08:42] <StarryNight> !pl
[08:42] <LjL> StarryNight: sorry :)
[08:43] <StarryNight> thats ok :)
[08:43] <StarryNight> i am glad there is polish language support
[08:46] <Jonii> basically, brightness changes if i keep the computer idle for long enough that it automatically dims the screen for a moment. When it returns from that, it goes to pretty much random setting
[08:46] <Jonii> ALso, if screen closes at any point, it also goes back to random setting
[08:47] <wormsxulla> hi
[08:47] <adonis> Woop.woop. using irc on my android phone!!!
[08:48] <dr_willis> adonis:  been using andirc for ages here. :)
[08:48] <dr_willis> got a BT keyboard
[08:48] <wormsxulla> why is it that sometimes my wireless connection drops and when it tries to reconnect, it stays on the authentication window, although the wpa key is there? it doesn't connect automatically
[08:49] <adonis> Its pretty sweet, means i can hit up #ubuntu at work ;)
[08:49] <dr_willis> been depateing setting up a vpn on myubuntu box for my phone to 'vpn' into ;)  for other neat android-ubuntu tricks
[08:49] <adonis> I like the idea of that
[08:49] <dr_willis> im at work now. ;) better get back to work.. bbl
[08:50] <adonis> Haha cya
[08:53] <wormsxulla> could it be because i had another network connection with the same name but a different key (an older box) so the connection manager doesn't know which network to connect to?
[09:03] <BobMarley> hello
[09:03] <BobMarley> is there somewhere where i could see the source code of ubuntu one?
[09:06] <Eagleman> is it possible to bind webmin to the tun0 interface?
[09:06] <mcored> does Ubuntu support exFAT?
[09:06] <feikaras> exFAT? unsupport   I guess
[09:07] <mcored> there is a way to add support but wasnt sure if it is supported natively
[09:07] <ikonia> now . but still geting error^
[09:07] <ikonia> oops
[09:07] <ikonia> sorry
[09:08] <legitnick> Eagleman you can use Iptables to route all traffic through the tun0 int based on the user that's running the process
[09:09] <CookieM> mcored: according to this unofficially https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT
[09:10] <mcored> It cannot become an official part of Linux due to the patent encumbered status of the exFAT filesystem.
[09:10] <mcored> i dont get it how Mac OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.5 and later can create, read, write, verify, and repair exFAT file systems
[09:10] <CookieM> yep
[09:10] <Eagleman> legitnick its possible to refuse connectionn to port 10000 on eto but i could allow it on tun0?
[09:10] <Eagleman> eth0*
[09:10] <legitnick> yes
[09:11] <Eagleman> Thats the best solution?
[09:11] <RumRum> iptables?
[09:11] <Eagleman> yes and no
[09:11] <Eagleman> i meant the methon with iptables
[09:11] <Eagleman> but if you have a better solution
[09:12] <RumRum> whats wrong with it
[09:12] <Eagleman> I dont know, thats what i;m asking
[09:12] <oyek> change the permission
[09:14] <legitnick> iptables -I INPUT 2 -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 1000 -j logdrop
[09:15] <legitnick> change the port to 10000
[09:17] <bsmith093> im on ubuntu lucid 10.04 im trying to run an ( apparently qt4.7 app, and im getting this "./fanficdownloader: symbol lookup error: ./fanficdownloader: undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData11detach_growEPii" ive tried to compile qt4.7  and it seems to go fine but i dont know where to go from there. i still get that same error whenever i try to run the app, only in the terminal, though, double clicking on it, does nothing at all.
[09:17] <Eagleman> legitnick what does logdrop do?
[09:19] <oyek> zz
[09:21] <Chuck_Norris> aloha all :D
[09:21] <Chuck_Norris> *wind sound*
[09:22] <legitnick> use -J DROP instead
[09:22] <Eagleman> ok thanks legitnick
[09:24] <oyek> how setting conky ?
 how setting conky ? << google "conky example config"
[09:24] <rhombsdoc> config is in HOME/.conkyrc
[09:25] <Chuck_Norris> oyek: ye, and gnome-look
[09:25] <oyek> was there a theme? ?
[09:25] <sacarlson> bsmith093: what is the app name fanficdownloader?  it looks like a python program
[09:26] <rnk_> Is there a way to increase the resolution of my virtual screen with xrandr without messing around with xorg.conf?
[09:26] <Chuck_Norris> oyek: in gnome-look is full themes
[09:27] <oyek> ok.TQ
[09:27] <Chuck_Norris> and i hame one theme based on "conky lunatico" :D
[09:27] <Chuck_Norris> i got*
[09:28] <Chuck_Norris> oyek: do you like this theme? http://i.imgur.com/LUHZv.jpg
[09:31] <oooaaaoooo> hi guys
[09:32] <oooaaaoooo> is it possible to modify the charging amount for laptop batteries in 12.04 lts?
[09:33] <Guest92353> aki se abla español o ingles?
[09:33] <sogeking99> hey guys i got ubuntu 12.04 and am on chrome. youtube works but gametrailers player does not
[09:33] <Chuck_Norris> !es | Guest92353
[09:34] <bsmith093> sacarlson: no thats the other one, fanfictiondownloader.net is the one im talking about
[09:34] <Chuck_Norris> se habla ingles :D
[09:34] <bsmith093> sacarlson: http://fanfictiondownloader.net/downloadmanager.php
[09:35] <bsmith093> chmod +x that and run from a terminal to see what im talking about
[09:38] <chroot> i want to learn the openGL, but i don't know where to start, any any advice?
[09:39] <sacarlson> bsmith093: I assume you read this line (Requires an installed version of Calibre on your PC) 			
[09:39] <sacarlson> !calibre
[09:40] <Rolz> No luck..
[09:40] <Rolz> No luck..
[09:40] <bsmith093> sacarlson: i have calibre
[09:40] <LjL> !calibre
[09:40] <Rolz> No luck..
[09:40] <Rolz> No luck..
[09:42] <Chuck_Norris> lol there was a bot between us :D i didn't realised :(
[09:48] <multiscreen> hi
[09:50] <chroot> multiscreen: hi
[09:50] <multiscreen> i need to connect a second screen to my notebook but it doesnt work with my fresh ubuntu 12.04 installation. I use fvwm-crystal with gdm . When i press Fn + MULTISCREEN botton it doesnt work. It works only on the console (but with the same output)
[09:51] <multiscreen> i used to use xrand before (in the previous installation [debian] ) but it doesnt works :(
[09:51] <chroot> multiscreen:well, you can use vnc.
[09:51] <multiscreen> are there some modules or some xorg-* i need to install  ?
[09:52] <multiscreen> chroot:  ?? vnc? no, i need to attach an external monitor
[09:53] <chroot> oh, that en i don't know.
[10:12] <sosjozsef> the gimp 2.8 is coming soon ubuntu 12.04 or only 12.10? sorry, i speak a little english
[10:13] <arand_> sosjozsef: probably only oficcially in 12.10
[10:14] <sosjozsef> arand_ i'm sad. 12.04 all time gimp 2.6?
[10:15] <arand_> sosjozsef: Yes, because that was the stable version at that point, you can always use backport, or a PPA of course.
[10:15] <sosjozsef> yes i know but i like official update
[10:21] <luckyB> hi
[10:21] <luckyB> i m new to ubuntu 12.04
[10:21] <luckyB> wanna know about gui
[10:22] <luckyB> how to modify it
[10:22] <luckyB> cud anyone help
[10:22] <sacarlson> luckyB: more specific what application? there are 1000's of gui apps you can modify
[10:24] <luckyB> application like faezen icon theme
[10:24] <oyost> hello there guys
[10:25] <oyost> any dev here?
[10:27] <sacarlson> luckyB: then you want to learn to modify the theme of your desktop
[10:27] <oyost> any dev here?
[10:28] <rhorstkoetter> oyost: why don't you just ask your particular question?
[10:29] <sacarlson> oyost: programers?  what language?  I'm sure there are many
[10:30] <oyost> sacarlson, mate i was looking for someone who knows Quickly
[10:30] <oyost> sacarlson, and python
[10:30] <a2r> Hi, I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 right now on a Laptop and I tried Xfce4.10 this morning but it wasn't the right for me so i uninstalled it. But now I noticed, that these half transparent overlays that show up when i e.g. adjust the sound (with the keys on the keyboard) is lowres and doesn't look like the old one anymore also its in the middle of the screen instead of the top right corner now. Same with the instant-message-noticing things. guess these a
[10:30] <a2r> re the xfce ones. but i want the old ones back. will "apt-get install -reinstall unity" help? or will it break some config files? or is there an better way?
[10:30] <llutz> !details | oyost
[10:31] <ali_> when shuting down ubuntu is hanging!!!
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> a2r:   make a new user - see if the issue still affects them.
[10:31] <sacarlson> oyost: I've programed some in python, ruby, C++, perl, php,  but I can't help you if I don't know what your problem is
[10:31] <ali_> hi
[10:31] <oyost> ubottu, llutz i was making an app with Quickly, i am a noob. sacarlson so i wanted to know how to add buttons and give that input to python to operate on
[10:32] <llutz> oyost: so you want to ask in #python
[10:33] <oyost> llutz, and is it possible for me to use java maybe or c++ instead of python in quickly?
[10:33] <Jettis> my grub2 wont boot. it just says that no such partition to nearly every command i write. I`m sure the partition is there. grub has prefix=(hd0,1)/boot/grub
[10:33]  * Dr_Willis has never even heard of 'quickly'
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> oyost  are you skilled in all those languages?
[10:34] <oyost> MonkeyDust, yeah i am
[10:34] <ali_> hi plz anyone has an idea, the system is hanging when shuting down
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> Jettis:  grub2 has some completion feature. that can show what drives/partions it sees
[10:34] <llutz> Dr_Willis: me too, google pointed me to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly
[10:34] <sacarlson> oyost: for gui stuf like that I like glade as a development tool
[10:35] <oyost> MonkeyDust, i know java, c and c++ decently, noob in python, although looking at python it look easyy
[10:35] <oyost> sacarlson, yeah using that how do i make a menu
[10:35] <oyost> sacarlson, i cant seem to figure out, not a menu wait lemme rephrase
[10:36] <oyost> sacarlson, i am making a basic calc, so i need to add buttons for 1 2 3 + - etc so how do i make that any idea?
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> Jettis:  like in the grub command line -->    chainloader (hd<TAB>) shows partions and filesystems
[10:36] <sacarlson> oyost: maybe look at some examples of glade apps to get an idea,  I have on writen in ruby but you can find examples writen in python also
[10:36] <oyost> where exactly can i find them sacarlson
[10:37] <a2r> Dr_Willis: just made a new user. there is the same problem
[10:37] <Jettis> Dr_Willis i just get long list of messages "no such partition"
[10:37] <sacarlson> oyost: there are many here is one example http://www.learningpython.com/2006/05/07/creating-a-gui-using-pygtk-and-glade/
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> a2r:  so its possible xfce changed some theme defualts or other files. I dont use xfce so really cant say more.
[10:38] <oyost> sacarlson, lemme see, thanks anyways
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> Jettis:  thats weird. example of what it should look like --> http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20CLI%20Mode%20Commands.html
[10:38] <a2r> Dr_Willis: ok then i just try to reinstall unity
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> a2r:  i rarely uninstall stuff. ;)
[10:39] <sacarlson> oyost: you can look in github.com for biger examples
[10:39] <oyost> sacarlson, bigger examples like?
[10:39] <sacarlson> oyost: I mean real applications not must examples
[10:39] <Chuck_Norris> aloha all :D
[10:39] <Chuck_Norris> *wind sounds*
[10:39] <sacarlson> must = just
[10:40] <oyost> sacarlson, a whole real app i think is too much. i'm new to python and glade so will take time to get used to it, will still check out the site though. thanks
[10:41] <Jancoover_> #programming
[10:42] <Jancoover_> ##programming
[10:43] <tuxgeek> Jancoover_: ?
[10:44] <tuxgeek> changing channels are you?
[10:45] <kandinski> anybody else sees this bug? I am using synergy on both client and server, and the ubuntu dock doesn't unhide on the client machine when I move the cursor via synergy. It does unhide when I move the cursor with the machine's hardware mouse. Am I alone in this?
[10:49] <sacarlson> kandinski: I've used quicksynergy on 10.04 works fine but I guess your running on a unity based boxes,  I could try bring up virtualbox with a unity based version to try it
[10:50] <sacarlson> oh maybe I can't do this in virtualbox
[10:51] <kandinski> sacarlson, thanks
[10:52] <sacarlson> kandinski: what version of ubuntu are you running on both sides?
[10:52] <kandinski> it worked fine for me on 11.10, it's a Unity regression, I'm pretty sure
[10:52] <kandinski> sacarlson: 12.04 on both sides
[10:52] <sacarlson> kandinski: oh I don't have a virtualbox for 12.04 yet
[10:52] <kandinski> I run the same Ubuntu on desktop and laptop, and control desktop from laptop (desktop client with laptopl keyboard server)
[10:52] <kandinski> sacarlson, noworries
[10:53] <sacarlson> kandinski: just another reason for me not to upgrade to 12.04 yet then
[10:53] <xharx> i want to add diskspace to a directory that already exists and contains files. is this possible?
[10:55] <sacarlson> xharx: you don't add space to directories you add them to partitions,  you can move the directory to another partition that has more space with a sybolic link
[10:56] <b44> any way to open a wlan hotspot with ubuntu instead of creating an ad-hoc ?
[10:57] <kandinski> sacarlson: fair enough
[10:58] <kandinski> sacarlson: I need some time to install 11.04 on both sides, so I can test with either on client and server
[10:58] <sacarlson> xharx: do you have a partition available that has the space you are looking for?  if so you can copy your directory into a part of it then delete your original directory and create a sybolic at the original location to the new path
[11:01] <xharx> sacarlson: do i keep the files in the directory when I proceed like this?
[11:01] <xharx> i have an empty partition
[11:01] <sacarlson> xharx: you can rename the original directory to be safe
[11:01] <xharx> ok
[11:02] <sacarlson> xharx: you can man ln;  or you can create links from nautilus
[11:10] <koskoz> hi, I'm trying to set a ssh access between my Windows 7 host and my Ubuntu Server 12 guest. In virtualbox I added a second adapter and set it up to "host only adapter". My first adapter is set to NAT. When I do a ifconfig to my ubuntu eth1 doesn't appear, so I added the following lines to /etc/network/interface http://pastebin.com/wA8qYYuF and the sudo ifup eth1 but when I try to ssh using
[11:10] <koskoz> putty to the ubuntu the connection is refused, I don't understand
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> koskoz  set the adapter to 'bridged', to make a logical bridge to your existing network
[11:11] <curiousx> koskoz: set up the adapter to bridge
[11:11] <mbucko> anyone knows anything about setting up sshfs to act as a server on ubuntu 12?
[11:12] <tent405> Just installed 12.04 on a Toshiba Satellite C675D-S7101. Built in keyboard and mouse not working at all. Anybody hear about this? USB does work
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> mbucko  sshfs is a way to connect to a remote pc, what do you mean exactly?
[11:13] <tent405> mbucko: install the ssh server
[11:13] <tent405> and any client could then connect to your ubuntu system with sshfs
[11:13] <koskoz> MonkeyDust, curiousx: but if I do that, the vm will be visible on my entire network
[11:14] <mbucko> i would like to mount my homes pcs drive into my netbook over internet
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> mbucko:  and what os is on the netbook?
[11:14] <mbucko> so on the server do i only install ssh? which ports do i open?
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> mbucko  use nfs to do it, not sshfs
[11:14] <mbucko> ubuntu
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> sshfs just connects to any ssh server. Its fairly easy to use.
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> you wont  want to set up your 'home' to be sshfs. but you could make several data dirs or other dirs use sshfs
[11:15] <mbucko> nfs? is that for mounting over network too?
[11:15] <Eagleman> What would be a logical file name for a backup.tar.gz?
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> mbucko  add your lacal pc in /etc/exports/ on the remote pc, then mount the remote pc on yout local pc, using nfs
[11:15] <Eagleman> 06-02-2012_01;14 is what i use now
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> should nfs be used over the internet?
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> internet or local network?
[11:16] <bergelmir> i am trying to luksOpen my encrpyted partition but i'm getting "/dev/sda5 is not a valid LUKS device"
[11:16] <koskoz> MonkeyDust, curiousx: I set up the adapter to bridge but now when I start my machine ubuntu is waiting for network configuration :/
[11:17] <bergelmir> cryptsetup -c aes-xts-plain -s 256 luksFormat /dev/sda5
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> koskoz  undo the changes in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:18] <yeksuke> hi It's my first time, so I'm just watching.
[11:19] <tent405> oh wow, do you think proprietary ATI/AMD FGLRX drivers could keep my laptop's keyboard and mouse from working?
[11:19] <tent405> we'll see
[11:20] <weox> sorry with command should i use for searching a package ?? like dpkg -search synaptic ??
[11:21] <curiousx> tent405: try: gksu gedit /etc/default/grub   and, in the line "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"   append: "acpi_osi=Linux"
[11:21] <jrib> !apt | weox
[11:22] <curiousx> tent405: so will be: "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux"
[11:22] <tent405> curiousx: what makes ya think that will work?
[11:24] <curiousx> tent405: becouse i think i related to the ACPI
[11:24] <curiousx> tent405: so... http://askubuntu.com/questions/28848/what-does-the-kernel-boot-parameter-set-acpi-osi-linux-do
[11:25] <tent405> i'll try it
[11:26] <curiousx> ok
[11:26] <bergelmir> can find any helpful information why i can't luksOpen my encrypted partition. did the setup as descripted in many tutorials.
[11:26] <bergelmir> s/can/can't/
[11:28] <tent405> curiousx: good call
[11:28] <curiousx> good call ?
[11:28] <tent405> yeah it worked thanks
[11:28] <curiousx> phone call?
[11:29] <curiousx> tent405: np gald to help ya
[11:29] <woldrich> lol
[11:29] <curiousx> i'll remember this to another to help another user :D
[11:29] <alkatraz> hello
[11:29] <tent405> now i can get run to the store for some brewski's while i upgrade. i owe you one.
[11:30] <bergelmir> found the reason why i couldnt open my encrypted partition :-)
[11:30] <curiousx> xD np go ahead dude :D
[11:30] <bergelmir> "Type uppercase yes" != yes
[11:31] <alkatraz> anyone ever have grub recognize their SSD as a flash drive during install
[11:31] <Chuck_Norris> tent405: are the cooler working well?
[11:32] <Chuck_Norris> is* the cooler...
[11:35] <tent405> Chuck_Norris: no, it really does need to be defrosted
[11:36] <Chuck_Norris> mmm... so... don't work well? sry some times i don't understand well =P
[11:37] <Chuck_Norris> i'm latino :D
[11:37] <Luhmann> Is it just me or the last version of google chrome it isn't prepared for videos on youtube?
[11:38] <Eagleman> How do i create this folders? Windows Server 2008 ( 1 )
[11:38] <ironhalik> Luhmann: there are some problems with flash 11.2 (integrated in chrome) and nvidia acceleration
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> Luhmann  i know it's not the the same, but videos work fine on chromium
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> ah, nvidia
[11:39] <ironhalik> yeah ;>
[11:40] <Chuck_Norris> Luhmann: do you have a nvidia?
[11:40] <Xix19> if I want to make a node.js server, where should the .js files go? I know I can put them anywhere I just want to know where it would be best practice to put them
[11:40] <Eagleman> How do i create this folders? Windows Server 2008 ( 1 )
[11:40] <Xix19> maybe /var/www or maybe /srv ?
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> Eagleman  use mkdir to create folders
[11:42] <Luhmann> MonkeyDust: I know although but when it comes watching videos it seems like I can find playback errors, you know?
[11:42] <Eagleman> Yes but it will create several folders, i want 1 folders thats called Windows Server 2008 ( 1 )
[11:42] <Eagleman> 1 folder*
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> Eagleman  try mkdir windows_server_2008 or so
[11:42] <Luhmann> Like the movie, lecture or every file were played too fast
[11:43] <Eagleman> mkdir Windows\ Server\ 2008\ \(\ 1\ \) worked
[11:43] <Luhmann> Besides that the sound isn't very good
[11:43] <Chuck_Norris> Luhmann: do you have a nvidia video card?
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> Luhmann  i have intel, so can't say
[11:44] <killer> i run ubuntu 12.04 in vmware and want to share files ...i have enabled sharing but not showing on ubuntu as mounted
[11:44] <ironhalik> had this issue with chrome dev
[11:44] <killer> i have linux host
[11:44] <koskoz> ok, I want to set up an ubuntu server guest under virtualbox. I've added the second adapter at set up to host only, then in ubuntu added the eth1 interface with the static ip 192.168.56.1, then ifup eth1 then restarted the vm. When I try to connect ivia putty to 192.168.56.1 I've got a connection error
[11:45] <frailty> Is my HDD damaged? http://i.imgur.com/bU8NI.png everything runs awfully slow
[11:45] <b1nr> folks, anyone experiencing session hangs on 12.04 ?
[11:46] <killer> b1nr : can u explain in detail
[11:46] <salvatore_> Hi, someone knows how to enable 3d accelleration for Windows 7 guest Os in Ubuntu 12.04 host? settings -> screen -> 3d accelleration won't work for me
[11:46] <koskoz> whant I want is a guest I can access with the same ip everytime
[11:46] <b1nr> killer, after working for some time, the session simply freezes
[11:46] <ironhalik> frailty: it cartainly does not look good - check smart under 'health'
[11:46] <b1nr> killer, keyboard won't be responding
[11:47] <b1nr> killer: i have to reboot everytime by pressing power button
[11:47] <frailty> smart works fine
[11:47] <killer> At start up it works ok ?
[11:47] <frailty> the hdd is nearly brand new in a top notch system
[11:47] <frailty> 7200 rpm
[11:47] <b1nr> killer: startup it works okay
[11:47] <b1nr> killer: it happens only after working for a while, say 20-30 mins, but not everytime
[11:47] <b1nr> killer: last log reports a crash
[11:48] <b1nr> pts/1        :0               Sat Jun  2 16:46 - crash  (00:13)
[11:48] <killer> and have u  upgraded  packages/....sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:48] <ironhalik> frailty: then I would guess its broken, just in a way I havnt seen yet - generally, you should have around 100 megs of transfer on average
[11:48] <b1nr> killer: yeap, it says system is uptodate
[11:48] <frailty> ok, great, i will remove it and install it again and check again under ubuntu
[11:49] <frailty> just wanted to know if thats the bottleneck
[11:49] <Luhmann> MonkeyDust: no, I haven't
[11:49] <salvatore_> Hi, someone knows how to enable 3d accelleration for Windows 7 guest Os in Ubuntu 12.04 host? settings -> screen -> 3d accelleration won't work for me
[11:49] <ironhalik> frailty: check for any firmware updates from western digital
[11:50] <Chuck_Norris> Luhmann: why you don't trust in Chuck Norris ? =( i have a solution for ya, if you have an nvidia :D
[11:50] <frailty> ok, thanks
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> salvatore_  in virtual box?
[11:50] <oyek> indonesian ?????????
[11:50] <killer> b1nr : it happened to me a bit but not frequently
[11:50] <salvatore_> yes virtual box
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> salvatore_  settings, display
[11:51] <b1nr> killer: you have nvidia graphics?
[11:51] <TheDarkBlubb> hi all
[11:51] <IdleOne> !indonesia
[11:51] <salvatore_> that won't work...what's wrong?
[11:51] <killer> i have ati
[11:51] <killer> b1nr
[11:52] <oyek> THANKYOU :D
[11:52] <Luhmann> Chuck_Norris: I put your name unintentionally. Sorry.
[11:52] <TheDarkBlubb> I have an issue installing java on my BackTrack 5 RT OS, I have downloaded java as: jre-7u4-linux-x64.tar.gz after unzipping I wanted to configure it with : ./configure
[11:53] <koskoz> arf, my network is set to dhcp, so if I set virtualbox to bridge I can't assign a static ip to my guest without losing the internet on it
[11:54] <TheDarkBlubb> an error appeared : Data or directory not found
[11:54] <TheDarkBlubb> what shell I do now?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> TheDarkBlubb  type /join #backtrack-linux as it is not supported here
[11:54] <TheDarkBlubb> thx
[11:55] <Chuck_Norris> Luhmann: i don't understand, i'd ask you, if you have a nvidia video card
[11:55] <TheDarkBlubb> got the problem in some channels : Cannot send to channel: #backtrack-linux whats that shit?
[11:55] <jrib> TheDarkBlubb: #freenode can help you with that
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> TheDarkBlubb  mind your language
[11:56] <TheDarkBlubb> MonkeyDust: sry
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> TheDarkBlubb  maybe you have to register your name
[11:56] <TheDarkBlubb> jrib: is it a channel?
[11:57] <jrib> TheDarkBlubb: yes
[11:57] <amitprakash> Hi, I am using ubuntu 12.04 and am trying to get my tata photon to work.. However, after plugging it in, it stays in scsi mode, what am I missing?
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> amitprakash  http://askubuntu.com/questions/6001/how-to-configure-tata-photon-ec1261-huawei#8859
[11:58] <amitprakash> MonkeyDust, thats for 11.04
[11:59] <amitprakash> with 12.04 modeswitch should work with udev and select appropriate rules
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> amitprakash  10.04, change it to your needs
[11:59] <amitprakash> MonkeyDust, right.. so how do I change whats there.. to something that works with udev
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> amitprakash  havent needed or tried it mayself
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> -a
[12:02] <amitprakash> Does anyone have an idea why udev doesn't respect or use usb_modeswitch rules?
[12:03] <koskoz> ok, can someone tells me how to configure my vm guest to enable internet access, ssh, static ip with a host under windows 7 behind a router with dhcp enable (so host has a dynamic ip)
[12:04] <anon> Is it possible to check how much currents my USB ports get? If yes what is the optimum value and is there a way to increase it via a command?
[12:04] <jrib> koskoz: !try #vbox
[12:04] <koskoz> jrib: it's also about ubuntu's config
[12:05] <jrib> koskoz: I'm not saying it's wrong of you to ask here.  I'm saying, #vbox is more likely to know
[12:05] <koskoz> jrib: yeah but the chan is kinda dead unfortunaly :/
[12:06] <koskoz> what I want is setup a ruby server, code under my host, and set my ide to upload my files via sftp on my guest server
[12:06] <lmaowaffle> hi guys, is there a non-gnome-specific tool that'll display a window with slideshow of a specified gallery?
[12:06] <lmaowaffle> something like Windows slideshow widget for desktop
[12:07] <jrib> lmaowaffle: feh?  There's probably dozens
[12:07] <x_> something like GwenView, lmaowaffle ?
[12:07] <lmaowaffle> i'll chjeck those out
[12:07] <lmaowaffle> i only use feh atm to set a background wall
[12:08] <lmaowaffle> thanks guys
[12:08] <x_> GwenView has a lot of nifty features, more than many even want.
[12:10] <rnk_> does anyone know where xrandr gets its default maximum resolution from?
[12:10] <Sh0rtWave> So I'm trying to run update manager
[12:10] <Sh0rtWave> and I'm getting this "Requires installation of untrusted pacikages" dialog
[12:11] <Sh0rtWave> that doesn't give me the option to say "Shut up, just install untrusted stuff"
[12:11] <Sh0rtWave> Instead it just has CLOSE
[12:11] <Sh0rtWave> How unuseful is that?
[12:11] <Sh0rtWave> Anyone got any ideas on how to work around that?
[12:12] <ariana> Sh0rtWave, U should switch off untrusted channels in settings
[12:12] <chris______> run 'sudo apt-get update | grep NO_PUBKEY'
[12:12] <Sh0rtWave> ariana: Considering that I NEED the packages in the untrusted channels, that's not really a useful option for me.
[12:13] <Sh0rtWave> Is there no setting here I can use to override that lunacy?
[12:13] <chris______> then do sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com {the number after nopubkey}
[12:13] <chris______> Sh0rtWave, run 'sudo apt-get update | grep NO_PUBKEY' and tell be the output
[12:13] <Sh0rtWave> I seriously have to make a change in a terminal?
[12:13] <Sh0rtWave> arrrgh
[12:14] <Sh0rtWave> That would be a fail.
[12:14] <chris______> Sh0rtWave, we are going to make it trusted
[12:15] <Sh0rtWave> I know, I know...it's just irritating that I have to ALWAYS drop into a terminal to do anything remotely serious in Ubuntu
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> Sh0rtWave  terminal often is the fastest and easiest way, so you don't need a gui
[12:16] <Sh0rtWave> I've been using Linux for 20 years.
[12:16] <Sh0rtWave> but the intended use for this machine...is for someone who's not like me.
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> Sh0rtWave  the you should be familiar with the terminal
[12:16] <Sh0rtWave> I think you're completely missing the point.
[12:16] <Sh0rtWave> I don't want to have to support this machine once it's built.
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> Sh0rtWave  mechanics repair cars, too, what's special about that?
[12:17] <Sh0rtWave> It's another THING I have to keep track of.
[12:17] <Sh0rtWave> whch I'd rather not.
[12:18] <GearSecondo> I dont get an answer in that BT channel
[12:18] <GearSecondo> u may help me here?
[12:18] <GearSecondo> how to install .tar.gz files
[12:18] <Sh0rtWave> If the updates can't be trusted to work properly, then I have to keep an eye on it.
[12:18] <GearSecondo> I read about it, but I got an issue with that configure command
[12:18] <chris______> GearSecondo, you need to extract the .tar.gz file like you would a zip file
[12:19] <GearSecondo> chris______: I did. After that I have a Directory...and now?
[12:19] <chris______> GearSecondo, open up a terminal cd to the directory that the folder is in. Do you know how to do this?
[12:19] <GearSecondo> I read I have to run ./configure, in that folder now, but like I said I get an error
[12:20] <Sh0rtWave> what's the error?
[12:20] <adept_> GearSecondo, first, i think, you may try to find a deb-package of needed soft
[12:20] <chris______> whats the error
[12:20] <GearSecondo> no such file or directory
[12:20] <Sh0rtWave> Are you actually in that folder?
[12:20] <GearSecondo> yes
[12:20] <Sh0rtWave> type this: pwd
[12:20] <Sh0rtWave> to make sure
[12:20] <Sh0rtWave> then ls -lha
[12:20] <Sh0rtWave> and see where you actually are.
[12:20] <FloodBot1> Sh0rtWave: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:21] <GearSecondo> I am in that folder
[12:22] <Sh0rtWave> ok then, if you're typing ./configure and getting "no such file or directory" then you have to do something different.
[12:22] <Sh0rtWave> type this: find ./ -name "configure"
[12:22] <Sh0rtWave> quotes optional
[12:22] <GearSecondo> nothing happens
[12:23] <Sh0rtWave> If that doesn't work, then do this: find ./ -iname "install*"
[12:23] <st_iron> hello and good afternoon
[12:23] <civirok> Anybody know of a good lightweight SNES emulator?
[12:23] <GearSecondo> nothing happens, again
[12:23] <ExElNeT> is it possible to tell dnsmasq if the upstream dns server resolves the fqdn to 0.0.0.0 it answers with "can not resolve"?
[12:23] <Sh0rtWave> Most OSS packages come with an INSTALL.TXT or README.TXT file which contains the build instructions for the package.
[12:23] <Sh0rtWave> interesting
[12:23] <Sh0rtWave> Ok find ./ -iname "readme*"
[12:23] <st_iron> I have bought a new T-Mobile modem (Huawei E352) and I must use it on 10.04
[12:23] <Chuck_Norris> GearSecondo: and if you type: make
[12:24] <st_iron> does anyone have any experience with it?
[12:24] <st_iron> as far as I know I have to upgrade my usb-modeswitch package to 1.1.9 at least
[12:24] <GearSecondo> Chuck_Norris: error: ***No Targets given and no <<make>>File found
[12:24] <Sh0rtWave> What package is this?
[12:25] <Blackshirt> St_iron, i have huawei e160 series, works greatfully
[12:25] <Chuck_Norris> ye, so you need configure first
[12:25] <Sh0rtWave> GearSecondo: What package are you trying to install?
[12:25] <GearSecondo> jre-7u4-linux-x64.tar.gz
[12:25] <Sh0rtWave> Ah
[12:25] <chris______> i think thats java
[12:25] <Sh0rtWave> Sure is
[12:25] <GearSecondo> indeed
[12:25] <Sh0rtWave> That's the Java runtime environment.
[12:25] <st_iron> Blackshirt: I have working modems, but it is for T-Mobile
[12:25] <Sh0rtWave> Did you get that from Sun?
[12:26] <bazhang> GearSecondo, is this ubuntu or backtrack
[12:26] <st_iron> it would be my private internet connection
[12:26] <GearSecondo> java.com
[12:26] <Sh0rtWave> Indeed
[12:26] <GearSecondo> its backtrack
[12:26] <bazhang> GearSecondo, not supported here
[12:26] <bazhang> !backtrack | GearSecondo
[12:26] <GearSecondo> I dont get any answer in the backtrack channel
[12:26] <st_iron> theoretically I can compile a new usb-modeswitch, but I want to ask your opinion
[12:27] <Sh0rtWave> GearSecondo: do this
[12:27] <bazhang> GearSecondo, not an ubuntu issue, stop asking here for support
[12:27] <Sh0rtWave> GearSecondo: find ./ -name "java"
[12:27] <GearSecondo> found
[12:27] <bazhang> Sh0rtWave, feel free to support him in the backtrack channel. it's not supported here
[12:27] <GearSecondo> bazhang: whats ur problem?
[12:28] <GearSecondo> let em help me if they want to...
[12:28] <Abhijit> !guidelines | GearSecondo
[12:28] <bazhang> GearSecondo, it's not supported here. go to the backtrack channel for support NOT here
[12:28] <GearSecondo> ok
[12:28] <Sh0rtWave> GearSecondo: All you have to do here is copy that entire folder somewhere that you want to keep it permanently and follow the normal rules for setting up the environment...and you'll be done.
[12:28] <GearSecondo> thx
[12:28] <Sh0rtWave> GearSecondo: IT already contains everything you need.
[12:28] <GearSecondo> ur great ;)
[12:29] <silv3r_m00n> I isntalled vsftpd and configured it and created a user and started it but when I connect to the server from a client , it says cannot enter the directory .
[12:29] <silv3r_m00n> how to fix this
[12:31] <iceroot> how are ubuntu-one storages saved? are they encrypted? only i can access that storage with my account? is the connection to ubuntu-one encrypted?
[12:31] <bazhang> iceroot, try in #ubuntuone
[12:32] <drecute> which is the most popular; likewise-open with WIN AD or ldap-auth-client with openldap server?
[12:32] <iceroot> bazhang: ah great didnt know that one
[12:33] <iceroot> drecute: you want to authenticate against AD? or you want to search inside AD?
[12:33] <drecute> authenticate
[12:34] <sego-kucing> Drecute, maybe you want try samba4
[12:34] <iceroot> drecute: samba4 is your only way to work with AD domains
[12:34] <drecute> no no
[12:34] <drecute> sorry
[12:34] <sego-kucing> Samba4 capable as AD controller
[12:34] <drecute> it doesn't work
[12:34] <iceroot> drecute: sure its working
[12:35] <drecute> a lot of problems with krb
[12:35] <drecute> i don't want to go there again
[12:35] <sego-kucing> Drecute, i have try with samba4, and was working like a charm
[12:35] <iceroot> drecute: there is no other way then samba4
[12:35] <mbucko> everytime i start my netbook i get a message that Ubuntu 12 has experienced an internal error. ExecutablePath /usr/bin/Xorg  ..any idea what this is?
[12:35] <iceroot> drecute: or you are using an ad-connector to sync the ad into samba3 and use that but you will miss the ad-features
[12:39] <Jancoover_> ##programming
[12:41] <Sh0rtWave> /join ##programming
[12:41] <Sh0rtWave> dammit
[12:41] <Sh0rtWave> Gonna go check that biz out
[12:41] <Sh0rtWave> That looks like a place just full of inflammatory opinion :D
[12:42] <Dr_willis> sounds like IRC ;)
[12:42] <Abhijit> Sh0rtWave, /topic
[12:43] <civirok> Anyone play videogames?
[12:43] <bazhang> civirok, hows that relate to ubuntu
[12:43] <civirok> I need to know how to play videogames on ubuntu
[12:43] <iceroot> !games | civirok
[12:44] <Abhijit> civirok, also check playdeb.net
[12:44] <iceroot> civirok: also have a look at "playonlinux"
[12:44] <civirok> Thx.
[12:44] <Abhijit> civirok, and keep eye on omgubuntu.co.uk for gaming news etc
[12:45] <civirok> This is a very busy channel!
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> civirok  http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/games.html
[12:45] <bost> guys, can you recommend me any tools for social coding under ubuntu, pls?
[12:45] <Abhijit> bost, github?
[12:45] <bazhang> bost, whats social coding
[12:45] <bost> Abhijit: I mean except github and pastebin :)
[12:46] <iceroot> bost: we dont know what you mean/want
[12:46] <Abhijit> bost, whats social coding?
[12:46] <iceroot> bost: its always a good idea to post usefull questions with usefull details :)
[12:46] <civirok> Expand.
[12:47] <bost> social coding basically means "programing in team"
[12:48] <bost> where the team does not sit together in one room, one company, on one continent
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> bost  any examples on other OSs?
[12:48] <Abhijit> bost, you want project management softwares?
[12:48] <iceroot> bost: offtopic here, try ##programming
[12:49] <civirok> Goodnight everyone!
[12:49] <Abhijit> O.o
[12:49] <Dr_willis> I hate to tell him - this is a very slow day so far. ;)
[12:49] <bost> Abhijit: no, I'd like to show some tools to a friend of mine - a coding guy
[12:49] <civirok> Me sa in Australia!
[12:50] <Abhijit> bost, try planner, taskjugller
[12:50] <Abhijit> bost, search project managemnt in ubuntu software
[12:50] <Abhijit> center
[12:50] <Abhijit> bost, there are launchpad, google code if that is what you want
[12:51] <yuriyvid> bost, i think redmine - excellent soft
[12:52] <bost> redmine, taksjuggler seem to be tools for management. What am I looking for are tools like pastebin, github....
[13:04] <spacebug-> what process is responsible for turning off the screen after screensaver has been activated? That thing that makes the graphic card turn off the signal ?
[13:04] <judgen> Is it possible to force plasma to use the gtk theme as well?
[13:05] <iceroot> spacebug-: i guess the x-server itself. the screensaver is just calling a method from x11
[13:07] <spacebug-> iceroot: hum ok. Because yesterday only my screensaver (blank screen) activated the screen never turned off as is usually does efter like a minute so I guess some peocess must have died ot 'f-uped'. Loggin out and in again solved this
[13:12] <_skpl> https://profiles.google.com/lint4690/photos
[13:13] <giga> !
[13:13] <reality_> hola
[13:13] <giga> hello
[13:15] <Rodrigo> hello
[13:15] <Rodrigo> i have a little problem
[13:15] <Rodrigo> i am using a acer aspire 5738zg and it is running a little slow
[13:15] <Rodrigo> i opened additional drivers and shows 2 options
[13:15] <Rodrigo> one is called accelerated drivers controller and cames activated
[13:15] <Rodrigo> and another is called accelerator drivers and is current-update
[13:15] <Rodrigo> the fisrst one came activated
[13:15] <Rodrigo> what are the differents
[13:16] <krycek> hi all
[13:16]  * krycek giggles
[13:18] <csioktel> Rodrigo: what do you mean "additional drivers"?
[13:18] <Xix19> why is the "/usr" folder named "usr"? where does the name come from?
[13:18] <Rodrigo> for example
[13:18] <krycek> hehe
[13:18] <Rodrigo> i opened that thing where we can install drivers
[13:18] <stormnboy> user?
[13:18] <Rodrigo> and it shows me 2 options
[13:18] <Xix19> same with "/etc"? if it contains configuration files, why isn't it named "/cnf" or "/conf" instead?
[13:18] <Rodrigo> current and current-update
[13:18] <Rodrigo> im usinga  nvidia g105
[13:18] <Rodrigo> but ubuntu runs a little slow
[13:18] <Rodrigo> would put the current-update make it better?
[13:19] <deleteDirectory> hello
[13:19] <Rodrigo> because my computer isnt bad...
[13:19] <iceroot> Xix19: User System Resources
[13:19] <Rodrigo> it has 512 mb of graphic (not very good), it has 4 gb ram, and t4300
[13:19] <oooaaaoooo> hey guys just installed ubuntu and was wondering how come i dont see home, /boot partitions in gparted?
[13:19] <Xix19> iceroot: what about "/etc" ?
[13:20] <stormnboy> @Xix19 Take a look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> oooaaaoooo  did you specify them during setup?
[13:20] <iceroot> Xix19: http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/etc.html
[13:20] <deleteDirectory> there is one directory  ".gvfs " which I can't delete. How can I delete it ?
[13:20] <iceroot> deleteDirectory: dont delete that
[13:20] <Dr_willis_> deleteDirectory,  its special.
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> deleteDirectory  try rm -r
[13:20] <anoop_> how to install scanner cannon mf4412  in ubunut 12.04?
[13:20] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: dont suggest that
[13:21] <iceroot> deleteDirectory: its the gnome virtual file system and its needed for the auto-mounter for example
[13:21] <Dr_willis_> !sane
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> iceroot  i'm not suggesting, i'm asking if he did
[13:21] <iceroot> deleteDirectory: normally you should not delete anythign starting with .
[13:21] <anoop_> printer is working perfect but scanner is not working
[13:21] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: a question is containing a "?". "try foobar" is not a question
[13:21] <jussi> is it possible to google from the dash?
[13:21] <iceroot> jussi: w3m, lynx
[13:22] <krycek> elinks
[13:22] <deleteDirectory> ok , one of the process can't  access .gvfs , what could be the reason  iceroot?
[13:22] <krycek> or lynx
[13:22] <krycek> wee
[13:22] <iceroot> deleteDirectory: there can be many reasons
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> iceroot  what?
[13:22] <GUSTI> Haaiiii
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> ok nvm
[13:22] <anoop_> is there any way to wokr this?
[13:23] <Blackshirt> Hai gusti
[13:23] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: [15:20] MonkeyDus | deleteDirectory  try rm -r
[13:23] <bazhang> anoop_, using simplescan?
[13:23] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: i dont see a question there
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> iceroot  i thought you were talking about the partitions
[13:23] <anoop_> bazhang:  i tryed but it s not detecting
[13:24] <delteDirecotry> ok I am back
[13:24] <delteDirecotry> sorry missed it
[13:24] <delteDirecotry> if you gave any valuable suggestion
[13:24] <Dr_willis_> what process.  details are handy
[13:24] <Eagleman> Is it possible to create a subdomain on a ip address like: test.10.8.0.1
[13:25] <iceroot> deleteDirectory: the best suggestion is "dont delete something when you dont know what it is doing just because you are getting an error-message" :)
[13:25] <iceroot> Eagleman: no
[13:25] <iceroot> Eagleman: ip and domain are totally different things
[13:25] <iceroot> Eagleman: you can create a domain for the ip and then a subdomain for that domain
[13:26] <anoop_> bazhang:  i tryed it with xscan too
[13:26] <delteDirecotry> Dr_willis_:  actually , I am trying to install a software provided by Internet service providers, which works with huwei modem. It can't access .gvfs
[13:27] <csioktel> Eagleman: you can create a subdomain like this 10.8.0.1.yourdomain.com
[13:27] <delteDirecotry> the software is used for connecting to the Internet
[13:27] <iceroot> delteDirecotry: you are calling the installer as root?
[13:27] <Eagleman> iceroot i already got a domain but i want to exclude the virtualbox. subdomain from the internet making it accisble only using the vpn tunnel wich is 10.8.0.1
[13:27] <Dr_willis_> delteDirecotry,  most likely it dosent need to access it.. makes me wonder why its trying
[13:27] <delteDirecotry> iceroot: yes ,
[13:27] <iceroot> delteDirecotry: root does not have a .gvfs
[13:28] <delteDirecotry> it is searching for my home directory iceroot
[13:28] <iceroot> delteDirecotry: normally network-manager should be able to talk to your modem so you dont need an extra software
[13:28] <anoop_> is there any way to  detect it ?
[13:30] <anoop_> how  to list usb devisces?
[13:30] <anoop_> connected with my system
[13:30] <trijntje> lsusb
[13:31] <anoop_> trijntje: thank you
[13:32] <anoop_> trijntje:  can you help me to install a scanner ?
[13:32] <GUSTI> uo
[13:33] <trijntje> anoop_: I dont know, what have you tried already?
[13:34] <Dr_willis_> check the sane site to see if its supported at all.
[13:35] <shaneo> Hi guys I purchased the Humble Indie Budle V yesterday and when I try to run Psychonauts I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1019556/. Im running ubuntu 12.04 amd64
[13:35] <anoop_> nothing  only  i i tryed with simple scan and x scan
[13:35] <Dr_willis_> check the sane.org web site for how well supported the scanner is
[13:35] <Dr_willis_> !sabe
[13:35] <Dr_willis_> !sane
[13:35] <anoop_> trijntje:  only  used simple scan and xscan
[13:36] <Dr_willis_> not all scanners are supported
[13:36] <anoop_>  trijntje  both not detcting my scanner
[13:36] <irgendwer4711> hi, why is there a linux-image-2.6.38-15-generic but no soure-packages for 10.04 LTS?
[13:37] <anoop_> trijntje:    it is a multy fuction printer  .  Printer is worikg perfectly
[13:37] <tbrown2012fb> What kind of games can I play on linux:)
[13:37] <trijntje> anoop_: I'm not sure. You should probably try searching for the printer name + ubuntu, see if anybody else got it to work
[13:38] <trijntje> !games
[13:39] <shaneo> tbrown2012fb, quite a few
[13:39] <anoop_>  trijntje : i try that way in google but not got any good answere .  my scaner  is cannor mf 4412 and i am using ubuntu 12.04
[13:41] <trijntje> I dont know much about scanners, so that's the only advice I could give
[13:42] <anoop_> trijntje:  ok thank you
[13:42] <obelus> anoop_: I'd say either come back here a bit later and see if someone's on that knows more about it, or go ask on http://www.askubuntu.com/
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> tbrown2012fb  http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/games.html
[13:46] <clark> Problem #1: my audio sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. can someone give me a hand at trouble shooting this problem? I'm not sure on all my hardware and software, and do not know how to determine what i have.
[13:46] <Sh0rtWave> lspci would be the first step
[13:46] <Sh0rtWave> having a look at dmesg output would be another step
[13:46] <Sh0rtWave> like
[13:46] <Sh0rtWave> Say you've got USb devices, you could do
[13:47] <Sh0rtWave> dmesg | grep usb to see what's there
[13:47] <Sh0rtWave> lspci will enumerate PCI devices
[13:47] <clark> alright, i pulled up both of those commands
[13:48] <Sh0rtWave> lspci should give a fairly comprehensive list of what's in the machine.
[13:48] <Dr_willis_> canon has very poor linux support with a lot of their hardware
[13:52] <clark> i think the problem is somewhere between my tv/monitor and my graphics card (vizio and radeon hd 6450) because sometimes I'll have something playing on my computer and switch over to a different input on my tv; but when i switch back to my computer, i have no sound (sometimes i still will have sound)
[13:52] <clark> Pulse audio will still show that something is playing, but i won't get any sonud
[13:52] <clark> sound*
[13:55] <clark> any thoughts? or is this definately not an ubuntu problem?
[13:57] <Sh0rtWave> clark: Smells like your TV, actually. I find that with my television, if the FIOS channel changes from 480 to 720, then sometimes the sound won't catch up correctly and I have to switch inputs to component back to HDMI before it starts working.
[13:58] <Sh0rtWave> clark: I really doubt that an audio stream on a PC, once working, will magically stop because you changed an input.
[13:58] <clark> I'll surely buy that, because i was thinking the same thing
[13:59] <clark> thank-you
[14:02] <ska> I just installed 12.04 on a new Amd a6 system. Apparently the installer likes the graphics, but once I boot, screen goes dark. I know it boots becuase I can ping and also do ctrl-alt-del to reboot.
[14:02] <ska> So the graphics card is a problem for it.
[14:03] <ska> Is there a way I can fix this?
[14:03] <esing> hey
[14:03] <ska> If I modify the grub.conf, do i need to run grub-install again?
[14:04] <esing> notice that the PC in this video starts first in XBMC. how come that? I thought first ubuntu has to be booted and then you have to run or autostart XBMC? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q94OljzPfc
[14:04] <ketty> help my system appair GRUB
[14:04] <ska> How do I get the grub menu at boot?
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> !grub
[14:05] <ska> Shift?
[14:05] <HelloWorld321> !nvidia
[14:05] <abhinav_singh> i have an upstart script ..i am able to run it by this command (sudo start job_name )...I want to start it using service  like (sudo service job_name start) ..how do i do that?
[14:05] <HelloWorld321> !ppa
[14:06] <meoblast001> after uninstalling tor and removing the torbutton plugin, it seems firefox can no longer connect to anything
[14:06] <meoblast001> i'm rather confused. has anyone seen this happen before?
[14:07] <ketty> when I start the PC I can choose between xp and ubuntu boot xp if it appears necessary and loading DLLs and kernel crashes if GRUB boot ubuntu only appears grub > and just
[14:07] <c31r2g> !
[14:07] <c31r2g> !maya
[14:08] <ketty> i dont- speak english very well sorry
[14:08] <ketty> i need help for my pc
[14:08] <meoblast001> ketty: #ubuntu-it
[14:09] <ketty> no one answer
[14:09] <giga> what's wr?
[14:09] <c31r2g> !wr
[14:09] <meoblast001> well. one problem is that this channel only has on common language that we all know
[14:10] <giga> 中文
[14:10] <giga> 可以不？
[14:10] <meoblast001> so if you need help in a specific language, there are channels for those languages
[14:10] <giga> where's chinese
[14:11] <chu> #ubuntu-cn
[14:11] <chu> (I think?)
[14:11] <crab2313> Right
[14:11] <giga> Think you very much!
[14:11] <giga> thank you
[14:11] <HelloWorld321> nope, nobody there at #ubuntu-cn
[14:12] <craigbass1976> HelloWorld321, it's probably censored...
[14:12] <Arasari> Why is it that when I VNC to my ubuntu server, the remote mouse is always offset a bit from my real mouse
[14:12] <HelloWorld321> craig: that's exactly right!  It's #ubuntu-tw
[14:13] <crab2313> user in china hardly ever use irc.
[14:13] <esing> notice that the PC in this video starts first in XBMC. how come that? I thought first ubuntu has to be booted and then you have to run or autostart XBMC? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q94OljzPfc
[14:14] <Arasari> esing, maybe he's running XBMCLive
[14:14] <craigbass1976> HelloWorld321, I just heard on the radio last night about China and Google's latest "showdown"
[14:15] <chu> craigbass1976 and HelloWorld321: You guys mind taking this chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please? :)
[14:15] <c31r2g> chu no please
[14:15] <c31r2g> lol
[14:15] <c31r2g> sorry :#
[14:16] <giga> esing,sudo nano rc.local
[14:18] <indio> Hi. Is there any main bug you can refer me to related to Unity unresponsiveness?
[14:19] <indio> !unity
[14:20] <ska> I'm able to get into grub, and into failsafe mode, but I'm not sure how to fix the graphics from there. Any ideas?
[14:20] <MrPopinjay> Hi guys. I have a machine that currently has 2 gigs of ram in it but I'm planning to upgrade to 4gigs at some point
[14:20] <indio> ska: Tweak /etc/grub/default
[14:20] <MrPopinjay> Is there any reason to use 32bit over 64bit when installing ubuntu (or a similar distro)
[14:20] <MrPopinjay> ?
[14:21] <MrPopinjay> Thanks
[14:21] <indio> ska: Than do update-grub
[14:21] <zykotick9> ska: have you tried nomodeset?
[14:21] <indio> There are two configuration lines you can tweak...
[14:21] <danes> hello, which software works better to sync with ipods?
[14:21] <indio> ska: Sorry. It is /etc/default/grub
[14:21] <ska> zykotick9: not yet. just run it as root console?
[14:22] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | ska
[14:22] <indio> ska: GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768
[14:22] <suley> MrPopinjay: I upgraded to 8 gigs two days ago. but nothing changed...
[14:22] <indio> ska: Or something suitable for you
[14:22] <JoseeAntonioR> MrPopinjay: There will be no difference, don't worry about it
[14:23] <ska> indio: does that go into the global area of /boot/grub/grub.cfg or /etc/default/grub?
[14:23] <indio> It just resides in /etc/default/grub
[14:23] <danes> !ipod
[14:23] <MrPopinjay> JoseeAntonioR, Ok thank you. Just wanted to know if there were any outstanding issues with 64bit atm
[14:24] <indio> ska: GRUB_TERMINAL=console <- That will also fix your problem. Just choose which one works.
[14:24] <ska> indio: ok, i have it in.. I just reboot then.
[14:25] <steve84> im running ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i am having an issue with mu sources im getting an error E: Type 'ain' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nilarimogard-webupd8-precise.list how can i fix this?
[14:25] <indio> ska: Remember to do `update-grub'
[14:25] <jrib> steve84: pastebin the contents of that file
[14:25] <danes> !android
[14:25] <ska> indio: if I do GRUB_TERMINAL=console, will startx or similar fail?
[14:25] <zykotick9> MrPopinjay: there are differences between 32 and 64bit.  32bit is easier most of the time - it's also better for low RAM systems <4GB
 how do i do that im new to linux
[14:25] <jrib> !pastebin | steve84
[14:26] <HelloWorld321> does lspci poll hardware to come up with its information?
[14:26] <indio> ska: Nope. It will work just fine.
[14:26] <danes> steve84, what do you want to do?
[14:26] <ska> ok,, ty
[14:27] <zykotick9> HelloWorld321: lspci asks the kernel, linux "polls" hardware on boot
[14:27] <suley> indio: My ibus didn't work in sublime text, is there any solutions?
[14:27] <HelloWorld321> if my video drivers don't work after upgrade to Precise Pangolin LTS, are lspci and lshw reliable sources of information, or are they messed up too?
[14:28] <indio> suley: Sorry. No clue.
[14:28] <zykotick9> HelloWorld321: lscpi can be trusted... probably lshw too
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1019648/
[14:28] <jrib> steve84: uh, pastebin the contents of the file in your error
[14:28] <HelloWorld321> zykotick9: tx
[14:28] <indio> Is there any bug you can refer me to related to Unity being unresponsive?
[14:29] <danes> what can I use to sync my android phone with ubuntu to have email, calendar and contacts?
[14:29] <suley> indio: author will not fix this bug until the version get stabled. thanks anyway...
[14:29] <i7c> danes: google mail ;)
[14:29] <ehsans> Hi
[14:29] <sary> MrPopinjay: Are questioning about http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop as to why ' 32 bit is recommended ' http://askubuntu.com/questions/1441/why-does-ubuntu-download-recommend-32-bit-install
[14:29] <ska> indio: i made the GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 change, but it still boots black. Maybe this is where i have to install another graphics driver.
[14:30] <indio> ska: Did you try GRUB_TERMINAL=console ?
[14:30] <Eagleman> Is there a way to see if certain users are able to login or have a password set?
[14:30] <suley> danes: thunderbird can sync mail, calendar and contact. just install it and search for addons.
[14:30] <indio> suley: Which bug?
[14:30] <sary> MrPopinjay: I meant ' Are you ..
[14:30] <ehsans> I want to use aufsin ubuntu so that I'd have all my changes written to another partition so if any thing goes wrong I could just format that partition.can someone help me with the fstab entry?
[14:30] <ska> indio not yet. I'll try. Xorg is looking for fglrx which is missing though.
[14:30] <tbrown2012fb> What is the best torrent downloader can I install to my Ubuntu:)
[14:31] <antimon> i love deluge
[14:31] <oCean> !best
[14:31] <MrPopinjay> sary, No, I'm not :)
[14:31] <i7c> tbrown2012fb: if youre into terminal stuff, i can recommend rtorrent
[14:31] <sary> antimon: i 2nd that .
[14:31] <sary> MrPopinjay: Alright . :)
[14:31] <suley> indio: ibus becomes unavailable in sublime.
[14:32] <indio> k
[14:32] <jrib> steve84: do you understand?
 here is whats in that file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1019659/
[14:32] <Eagleman> Is there a way to see if certain users are able to login or have a password set?
[14:33] <jrib> steve84: are you sure that's the entire file?
[14:33] <steve84> yep
[14:33] <ska> Eagleman: cat /etc/shadow and see if they have a password set there.
[14:33] <steve84> hold on ill double check
[14:33] <Eagleman> ska when they dont have a password are they able to login?
[14:33] <jrib> steve84: an you run « cat  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nilarimogard-webupd8-precise.list » in a terminal and pastebin your command and full output?
[14:34] <steve84> give me a sec
[14:34] <tbrown2012fb> How can I install the Ubuntu store:) Because I installed a Minimale iso and I made a Desktop Envirement LXDE and I dont have a lot of stuff in it even Ubuntu Store is not in it how can I get it. I have ubuntu 12.04
[14:34] <ska> Eagleman: no, usually not.
[14:34] <ska> Eagleman: no pw= no login
[14:34] <Eagleman> And when not ska?
[14:35] <Eagleman> When can they login without a password
[14:35] <Eagleman> I have to be sure they cant login
[14:35] <suffice> yoyo
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1019662/
[14:35] <zykotick9> !info software-center | tbrown2012fb do you mean this?
[14:35] <jrib> steve84: you see the "ain" on the third line?  You need to delete that
 its not letting mw edit the file and save it
[14:37] <jrib> steve84: gksudo gedit PATH_TO_FILE
[14:37] <Eagleman> WHat is :*: and :!: in the password fields in the /etc/shadow file
[14:38] <esing> giga oh so he added XBMC as a user account an starts it directly right
  thanks for your help it worked and now i am able to update my stuff with the update manager
[14:40] <jrib> Eagleman: man 5 shadow
[14:40] <Eagleman> i've found it
[14:40] <jrib> steve84: no problem
[14:40] <Eagleman> No Password ( --disabled-login ):*: Account DIsabled:!: in the password fields in the /etc/shadow file
[14:40] <ska> Eagleman: passwd -l
[14:41] <ska> indio: ty.. fglrx was the problem
[14:43] <Eagleman> ska, i've got this user: media:!:15486:0:99999:7::: I'm only using it for assigning to files and folders for acces
[14:43] <Eagleman> is it better to disable the account or leave the :!: ?
[14:44] <zykotick9> Eagleman: editing /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow manually probably isn't the greatest idea... just sayin'
[14:44] <Eagleman> I'm not planning to
[14:44] <Eagleman> I'm just asking the difference and what could be better
[14:45] <Eagleman> better=safest
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> Eagleman  i guess the safest is to not touch anything
[14:51] <zykotick9> Eagleman: why are you creating accounts to disable them?  wouldn't creating a "media" group and adding users to that make more sense?
[14:55] <sulaiman> greetings
[14:56] <sulaiman> I have recently started using the latest version of Ubuntu  (12.04) again  after a long break of using windows, In that version of Ubuntu, I could pick L2TP when configuring my VPN Connection using the network manager, I no longer see that option
[14:57] <sulaiman> now I just see OpenVPN, PPTP and Cisco Compatible VPN
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> !find l2tp | sulaiman
[14:58] <neglesaks> someone kick the Ubuntu ONe notes server, please, syncing notes is failign again
[15:01] <ska> Eagleman: normally if you make a user, and don't assign a password, that account is effectively locked.
[15:02] <Eagleman> ska i've used --disabled-login
[15:03] <NetRunnerBlack> Can anyone help me with Oracle VM VirtualBox? I'm on 12.04, and I want to use a VM to access iTunes for my iPod. I can't seem to get the VM to recognize my USB. I've already done 'sudo adduser netrunnerblack vboxusers' with no luck thus far.
[15:03] <Eagleman> NetRunnerBlack #virtualbox
[15:03] <NetRunnerBlack> Eagleman Thankyou.
[15:03] <Eagleman> np
[15:04] <oCean> NetRunnerBlack: did you install the extension pack?
[15:04] <NetRunnerBlack> oCean Extension pack? >.>
[15:05] <oCean> NetRunnerBlack: yes, that will enable usb passthrough
[15:05] <Eagleman> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[15:05] <Eagleman> VirtualBox 4.1.16 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack
[15:05] <NetRunnerBlack> oCean Eagleman Thanks, I hadn't looked into addons at all just yet, guess I should have!
[15:06] <Eagleman> Why cant i find anything about this parameter on any of the manpages? adduser --disabled-login
[15:06] <danes> I tried to open the help menu from amarok and I got this error: Could not find service 'khelpcenter'.  how can I fix it?
[15:06] <oCean> NetRunnerBlack: once downloaded, go to File > Pref > Extensions
[15:06] <oCean> NetRunnerBlack: after that you can - per machine - configure which devices to passthrough
[15:08] <batmunkhbaatar> hi
[15:08] <NetRunnerBlack> oCean That's awesome. Thanks again.
[15:09] <TheFloatingBrain> #elysianshadows
[15:09] <TheFloatingBrain> crap
[15:09] <TheFloatingBrain> lol
[15:09] <Eagleman> Why cant i find anything about this parameter on any of the manpages? adduser --disabled-login
[15:11] <KRomo> i just formated a sencond hd i am using for storage it is 2tb. it says 129.7gb used...why? also, it has a lot+found folder I CANT DELETE. HELP!!!
[15:11] <JoseeAntonioR> Eagleman: You can issue man adduser, that will give you the manual.
[15:12] <Eagleman> aw Thanks JoseeAntonioR
[15:12] <JoseeAntonioR> No problem
[15:14] <steve84_> hi i am having issues with bluetooth on ubuntu 12.04 any help would be greatly appreciated
[15:15] <neglesaks> Ubuntu one shows Notes services runs ok, but im unable to sync; anyone else having problems?
[15:16] <lJ6il> Hello there. When i launch "sensors", it tells me this (this is the beginning of the answer) : acpitz-virtual-0      Adapter: Virtual device          temp1:        +64.0°C  (crit = +95.0°C)
[15:16] <lJ6il> Would someone know what is "virtual device" ? acpitz-virtual ?
[15:17] <ranjans89> Will anyone help me to pass through initramfs prompt. I'm kinda stuck in it.
[15:17] <LordOfTime> ranjans89:  we need to know what error its throwing to get you to there]
[15:18] <KRomo> can anyone help? :)
[15:18] <ranjans89> LordOfTime,http://i.stack.imgur.com/Tetpf.jpg
[15:18] <Eagleman> KRomo ext uses 5% of the disk space for something
[15:19] <KRomo> the drive says partition type: hpfs/ntfs type: ext4
[15:19] <Eagleman> KRomo When formatting the drive as ext2/ext3, 5% of the drive's total space is reserved for the super-user (root) so that the operating system can still write to the disk even if it is full. However, for disks that only contain data, this is not necessary.
[15:19] <Eagleman> ow nvm,
[15:20] <KRomo> how do i properfly format this pos
[15:20] <MCl0vin> good morning folks
[15:20] <Eagleman> This could help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[15:20] <Eagleman> Modify Reserved Space (Optional)
[15:20] <KRomo> it says the drive is bootable but i dont need it to be
[15:20] <MCl0vin> quick question regarding gnome and 12.04
[15:20] <Eagleman> not sure about ext4
[15:21] <ranjans89> LordOfTime: Any idea.
[15:22] <MCl0vin> i am using 12.04 and gnome on my dv7 laptop , i am trying to watch a movie while sitting in a conf. room, but when i plug my ear peice and play the movie , the sound come from normal speakers and he earpieces at the same time
[15:25] <Eagleman> How do i create a user without a home folder?
[15:26] <i7c> MCl0vin: are you using pulse?
[15:26] <MCl0vin> i7c, not sure what is that ?
[15:26] <Eagleman> solved
[15:26] <i7c> MCl0vin: pulseaudio is a "sound server". it is like a virtual audio device which manages the sound output for all applications.
[15:27] <zykotick9> Eagleman: use useradd (NOT adduser) without the -m
[15:27] <MCl0vin> i7c, how do i check if i am using it please
[15:27] <i7c> MCl0vin: which player are you using? can you check in the settings what audio device is used?
[15:27] <ChesterX> hey guys, how can i add an .iso as a source to the ubuntu software center?
[15:27] <kinglet> hello all, i want to install my VGA in additional hardware, but i've got this error msg  "Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log"
[15:27] <MCl0vin> mplayer i7c
[15:28] <i7c> mhm ok. i think mplayer uses pulseaudio by default, but not sure. you can install pavucontrol.  open a terminal and type   sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[15:29] <i7c> MCl0vin: mhm or wait a second.
[15:30] <MCl0vin> i7c, pavucontrol is already the newest version.
[15:30] <i7c> MCl0vin: i think pavucontrol won't help. go to terminal and type alsamixer
[15:30] <MCl0vin> i7c, but shouldn;t it detect when i plug my earpeice
[15:30] <kinglet> any idea?
[15:31] <i7c> MCl0vin: with F6 you can choose your sound card and you can turn off speakers.
[15:31] <i7c> MCl0vin: yes it should, i dont know why it does not work, sorry.
[15:32] <MCl0vin> S/PDIF        S/PDIF Default PCM  S/PDIF Playback Sound <--- what are those i7c
[15:32] <MCl0vin> ^^ from alsamixer
[15:33] <i7c> MCl0vin: different channels of your sound device
[15:33] <yggdrasil> hi, im curious what email client people are using with 12.04 ? thunderbird really?
[15:33] <i7c> MCl0vin: i'm sorry i'm in a hurry, i gotta go. keep asking around here, someone can help you for sure, k?
[15:34] <neglesaks> thunderbird for me
[15:34] <yggdrasil> hmm
[15:34] <i7c> yggdrasil: gmail. dont need a client ever again.
[15:34] <yggdrasil> how is it?
[15:34] <MCl0vin> i7c, ah...ok, well it not that i am not hearing audio , is that i want to know where i can choose my speakers vs earpiece
[15:35] <i7c> MCl0vin: try mute and unmute different channels (with m) in alsamixer
[15:35] <i7c> MCl0vin: you can't break anything, just play with it
[15:35] <neglesaks> works fine as always
[15:35] <neglesaks> in other news. U1 notes sync still down :(
[15:40] <b17ChX> hi
[15:40] <b17ChX> I'm having problems getting sound in Rakarrack 6.03 on Ubuntu 12.04LTS
[15:40] <b17ChX> suspecting Jack
[15:42] <MobileXMan> my mouse doesn't always work in ubuntu 11.10 for some reason
[15:42] <scottamunga> Hi everyone.  I had a question about Precise.  I'm using the 64-bit edition, and when I log in to Unity 3d, I have graphical glitches.
[15:43] <MobileXMan> i have an alienware m17x R3 laptop, and my touchpad doens't always work right
[15:43] <scottamunga> I upgraded from Oneiric.  I had used Ubuntu Tweak to make certain features transparent (such as window titlebars) that aren't officially supported (I guess?) I was wondering if that could've caused this, and if I need to do a fresh install of Precise.
[15:43] <MCl0vin> When I connecting my headphones to laptop, the speakers is still working. Where is the problem?
[15:43] <b17ChX> lol
[15:43] <scottamunga> MC10vin, what version? At least for me, that issue stopped on my Compaq presario cq60 after Maverick.
[15:44] <MCl0vin> scottamunga, 12.04
[15:44] <scottamunga> Mc10vin, oh sorry
[15:44] <MCl0vin> scottamunga, HP dv7
[15:45] <OY1R> 361635
[15:45] <scottamunga> Mc10vin, I haven't read through this, but I did a quick google search for "HP dv7 headphone jack sense Ubuntu" and this bug report on Launchpad came up: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/433683
[15:48] <scottamunga> although, it seems to be from 2009.  I wonder why in the world it's still affecting you. :(
[15:48] <scottamunga> Just wondering if anyone had any idea about my issue.
[15:48] <scottamunga> I upgraded from Oneiric.  I had used Ubuntu Tweak to make certain features transparent (such as window titlebars) that aren't officially supported (I guess?) I was wondering if that could've caused this, and if I need to do a fresh install of Precise.
[15:49] <scottamunga> There are graphical glitches when booting into Unity 3d (but not Unity 2d)
[15:49] <scottamunga> MCl0vin, if I find anything I'll let you know
[15:50] <scottamunga> also, random question, but does anybody use Jupiter in Precise?  Notice any power savings?
[15:52] <MobileXMan> Hi everyone. I have issue with power adapter in ubuntu 11.10, on alienware m17xR3 laptop. when it is plugged in when the OS loads to the desktop, there is no issue. However, after the OS has loaded, if I unplug the adapter and then replug it in, the power icon on the desktop stills shows it on battery power and the battery discharging, and I cannot get it to see the power adapter plugged in.
[15:52] <User_007> Hello guys, i got some problems with my wireless card, and i need to change it from n to g mode in order to get it working with my router. How can i do that?
[15:53] <scottamunga> MobileXMan, does the battery still drain, or charge? Maybe as a workaround, you could set the battery indicator to only show up when charging/discharging?
[15:54] <scottamunga> I've noticed graphical glitches when logging into Unity 3d.  I upgraded from Oneiric.  I had used Ubuntu Tweak to make certain features transparent (such as window titlebars) that aren't officially supported (I guess?) I was wondering if that could've caused this, and if I need to do a fresh install of Precise.
[15:54] <MobileXMan> scottamunga, i am not sure if the battery actually discharges or not when the adapter is plugged in, but ubuntu thinks it is discharging, so when it reaches a point to where its close to being drained (in Ubuntu's mind), it will try to hibernate.
[15:54] <htorque> hi everyone! what's a good way to use a web proxy in ubuntu that requires authentication? i don't really like to add the user/pass in plain text to 'System Settings → Network → Network proxy'.
[15:54] <scottamunga> The Ubuntu Tweak settings are no longer there
[15:55] <ASMODEUS_> What's a good and easy to configure HTTP proxy?
[15:55] <b17ChX> Squit
[15:55] <b17ChX> *squid
[15:55] <artemis12> squid
[15:56] <scottamunga> MobileXMan, I'm by no means an expert, but let me search for your problem and see what comes up
[15:56] <ASMODEUS_> Thanks
[15:56] <scottamunga> what's the computer model again?
[15:56] <MobileXMan> scottamung, its an alienware m17xR3 laptop
[15:56] <scottamunga> alright, brb
[15:57] <piremerd> test. hello
[15:57] <LoRez> is there a way to get ubuntu 11.10/12.04 to not capture Alt-~?
[15:58] <b17ChX> I'm having sound problems with Rakarrack.
[15:59] <scottamunga> MobileXMan, here's something about the m17xR2 laptop.  It mentioned problems with the BIOS.  Have you upgraded your BIOS?
[15:59] <scottamunga> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1506490
[16:00] <ASMODEUS_> Anybody ever install Ubuntu on a Dell Precision M4300?
[16:00] <MobileXMan> scottamunga. No, I have not upgraded my BIOS since I bought it. i have the A09 BIOS version.
[16:00] <scottamunga> oh ok, so this is info isn't even relevant
[16:00] <scottamunga> It did mention something about disabling Hybrid
[16:00] <obakfahad> Hello  guys !!!
[16:00] <scottamunga> Idk what this, because I've never owned an Alienware computer
[16:01] <scottamunga> does that have to do with power management in the gfx card?
[16:01] <obakfahad> Long live 12.04
[16:01] <scottamunga> hi obakfahad
[16:01]  * MCl0vin hates 12.04
[16:01] <pats_Toms> Hi, Is there someone who can help me to get libncursesw.so.5?
[16:01] <obakfahad> Hello scottamunga
[16:01] <scottamunga> hey MCl0vin, also, did you have problems with ubuntu on your laptop before 12.04?
[16:01] <obakfahad> What are you using scottamunga ?
[16:02] <scottamunga> I've had graphical issues myself (obviously)
[16:02] <scottamunga> obakfahad, I'm using 12.04 on a compaq presario cq60
[16:02] <david> I agree 12.04 is my favourite ubuntu version so far
[16:02] <obakfahad> I am in 12.04 32 bit...in acer aspire 4738z . scottamunga
[16:02] <scottamunga> agreed david.  I feel it's much more polished, although I wish I had fewer problems with it
[16:03] <ASMODEUS_> Does anyone use Unity?
[16:03] <obakfahad> Very very good release
[16:03] <MCl0vin> scottamunga, don't recall if i did or no with this specific issue!! but since i have installed 12.04 it is giving me hell every f**king time
[16:03] <scottamunga> ASMODEUS_, I do.  I used to hate it (I liked gnome 2 with docky.) but I've grown accustomed to it.
[16:04] <scottamunga> I also am having issues running certain windows software for my work and a steam game, so I still have to use windows a bit.
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> MCl0vin  mind your language and don't use ubuntu if you don't like it
[16:04] <MCl0vin> 12.04 is like 2014 Lexus with a 79 honda engine to me
[16:04] <ASMODEUS_> Same but now since I started using it, I tend to drag my cursor into the top left corner of my screen when I use Windows.
[16:05] <scottamunga> I've noticed graphical glitches when logging into Unity 3d.  I upgraded from Oneiric.  I had used Ubuntu Tweak to make certain features transparent (such as window titlebars) that aren't officially supported (I guess?) I was wondering if that could've caused this, and if I need to do a fresh install of Precise.
[16:05] <MobileXMan> scottamung, idk, but i'm using the 2GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 675M card
[16:05] <ASMODEUS_> Does anybody get garbled text with libcairo2 and Nouveau (nvidia drivers)?
[16:05] <MCl0vin> MonkeyDust, or else what?
[16:05] <scottamunga> do you know if you're using the latest nvidia drivers (under Additional Drivers)
[16:06] <cyf3r> Hi! I've got a question... This morning ubuntu says my screen is a screen of a laptop. And I only can select resolutions for a laptop screen... and there isn't an option to say it isn't a laptop screen
[16:07] <MobileXMan> yes, i have installed the nvdia additional drivers which fixed an issue having to use the "nomodeset" option in the grub entry when booting ubuntu
[16:07] <daze> cyf3r: my PC screen also thinks it's a laptop :)
[16:07] <scottamunga> ok.  As I said, I'm by no means an expert, just trying to go through everything I can think of.
[16:07] <losthorizons> hi guys - I have a question.  I was going to install Ubuntu via the wubi installer.  I was wondering, how can I choose to boot either between Ubuntu or Windows once I have everything installed?
[16:07] <daze> but I don't really see a problem with that
[16:08] <cyf3r> its a problem cause I can't select the correct resolution
[16:08] <scottamunga> but it sounds like you've done everything you can at this point.  I'd just keep searching the web for answers, and also, hopefully someone will come in who knows a bit about this.
[16:09] <scottamunga> 1 more thing MobileXMan: have you tried askubuntu.com?  I think the devs answer questions there.
[16:09] <cyf3r> nvmd... It's fixed now :/
[16:09] <daze> cyf3r: strange. I suppose there's a config file you can add your preferred resolution to. aren't you using a lcd?
[16:09] <MCl0vin> another question i have, how can i make konsole my default terminal in 12.04
[16:10] <MobileXMan> scottamunga, not yet. i will try that next.
[16:10] <MobileXMan> and then also the ubuntu forums
[16:10] <cyf3r> daze: It works fine now.... its just that sometimes ubuntu switches the resolution when I restart my pc
[16:10] <MobileXMan> but thanks for the help.
[16:11] <MCl0vin> how can i make konsole my default terminal in 12.04 please
[16:11] <scottamunga> MobileXMan, sorry I couldn't help more.  I know it's frustrating when you have an issue and can't find a solution.
[16:11] <cyf3r> has anybody compiled the LibSS7 library with cgg? I keep getting tons of error messages while compiling it :s
[16:11] <MCl0vin> i turn to like it better than the default
[16:13] <losthorizons> hi guys - I have a question.  I was going to install Ubuntu via the wubi installer.  I was wondering, how can I choose to boot either between Ubuntu or Windows once I have everything installed?
[16:13] <Noeel> Ahoj potřeboval bych pomoc
[16:18] <Sontogo> Hi, I'm a linux newbie, installing ubuntu for the first time, and I'm some problems
[16:19] <cromag> sharky1: a question - otherwise no one answers :D
[16:19] <cromag> Sontogo*
[16:19] <cromag> baah..
[16:19] <Sontogo> At first I was getting a black screen after selecting 'install', so I did some web research, and found some people needed to select 'nomodeset' to make it work. I tried that and the installation worked
[16:19] <wilee-nilee> Sontogo, give us a outline.
[16:19] <Sontogo> after the installation, the system said I needed to reboot, so I did, but again I got the black screen
[16:19] <Sontogo> I read on the web that I need to make the 'nomodeset' permanent so that upon boot, it works, but I don't know how to do that
[16:20] <bgamari> For those of you in console-based IRC clients, does anyone see this character (〈) rendered with single-cell width?
[16:20] <bgamari> For me it is rendered in two cells
[16:20] <odinsbane> 3 cells for me
[16:20] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Sontogo you need to enter it again in the kernel, update when you are in and check additional drivers
[16:20] <bgamari> odinsbane: Strange
[16:20] <bgamari> This appears to happen in both xterm and gnome-terminal
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> bgamari  irssi here, 2 cells
[16:21] <odinsbane> bgamari: plus there are two parenthesis around the characters.
[16:21] <bgamari> I really don't know where in the stack this is; I don't think xterm depends on pango
[16:21] <Sontogo> this is a stupid question, but how do I access the kernel?
[16:21] <bgamari> odinsbane: Yes, that was typed
[16:21] <bgamari> Sontogo: What do you mean?
[16:21] <wilee-nilee> Sontogo, check the link full instructions there.
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> Sontogo  if you don't know how, you shouldnt
[16:22] <odinsbane> MonkeyDust: then he cannot boot.
[16:22] <wilee-nilee> Sontogo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[16:22] <Sontogo> I read that, it says "To set kernel boot options, you must edit your grub configuration. You can do this temporarily for a single boot by entering the grub menu. If you do not get to see the grub boot menu after the bios automatically, you may have to press SHIFT key after the bios logo to get in to grub:"
[16:22] <wilee-nilee> Sontogo, correct
[16:23] <Sontogo> I tried getting into the grub menu, but wasn't able to. I'm not sure what the grub menu is
[16:23] <odinsbane> Sontogo: it is the boot menu when you load up it gives you a choice of OS's to use.
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> Sontogo  the grub menu is where you can choose ubuntu or windows (mostly)
[16:23] <Sontogo> I don't get menu what I boot up
[16:23] <Sontogo> I only have ubuntu on the machine
[16:24] <Sontogo> *I don't get that menu..
[16:24] <odinsbane> Sontogo: did you press shift right after the bios stuff.
[16:24] <Sontogo> yea tried that
[16:24] <Sontogo> will try again thogh
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> Sontogo, tap the shift at powering on hit e fro edit at the menu
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> tap repeatedly or hold down as soon as you power on. Sontogo
[16:24] <Sontogo> ok I will restart the machine now and try that
[16:25] <Sontogo> I'm running ubuntu off of the USB right now
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> Sontogo, is this 12.04
[16:25] <Sontogo> yes
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> Sontogo, cool it is shift then
[16:25] <Sontogo> actually let me go on my laptop so I can continue this chat while it's booting up
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> sure
[16:28] <Sontogo_> when I press shift upon booting up, it takes me to a screen with a purple background, and language options
[16:28] <Sontogo_> is that the Grub menu?
[16:28] <tuxgeek> no
[16:29] <Sontogo_> I have five menu options: 'Try Ubuntu without installing', 'Install Ubuntu', 'Check disc for defects', 'Test memory', and 'Boot from first hard disk'
[16:29] <Zentaur> hello
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> Sontogo, you are still booting the install, remove that and power on.
[16:29] <jvcleave> anyone successfully installed ubuntu (any version) on a MacBook pro 8,2+?
[16:29] <Sontogo_> I'll reboot again and press shift earlier
[16:30] <Sontogo_> maybe I'm pressing it too late
[16:30] <Zentaur> could anybody help me with a strange problem when i watch a youtube video?
[16:30] <Zentaur> people is blue :)
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> Sontogo_, remove the cd or usb flash it is still booting that
[16:34] <ska> anyone have experience calibrating lm-sensors for AMD A6-3650? My temps are totally off.
[16:34] <odinsbane> ska:  is that for a laptop?
[16:36] <Somelauw> Hi, I upgraded from ubuntu 11.4 to 11.11 and now all my fonts are a lot bigger.
[16:36] <odinsbane> Can I format a usb drive to ext2 and boot from that?
[16:36] <Somelauw> Also the tabs in firefox are displayed in huge letters.
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> odinsbane, boot what?
[16:37] <odinsbane> wilee-nilee: ubuntu
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> odinsbane, not unless it is a full install
[16:38] <bobo123> i try to connect my laptop directly to the WAN port but somehow i can't get an IP address from the router, how can i solve this problem? i tried this on windows i somehow get an IP address from the router
[16:39] <bobo123> the DHCP server on the router is started
[16:39] <wilee-nilee> odinsbane, you trying to set up ubuntu to be seen by windows?
[16:40] <Somelauw> Sorry, but upgrading to ubuntu 11.10 is the worst thing I ever did. Nothing works anymore.
[16:40] <odinsbane> wilee-nilee, no I am trying to setup a usb disk so I can use ubuntu at work.
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> odinsbane, you can't boot a fat there?
[16:40] <smerz> bobo123, ubuntu behaves like windows in this regard. you connect the cable, and then it will try to get an IP via dhcp
[16:41] <odinsbane> wilee-nilee: fat is fine.
[16:41] <odinsbane> wilee-nilee: There are some issues about sim links when using fat.
[16:41] <bobo123> smerz: i tried that but i don't get an IP address from the router, and in windows my laptop gets an IP address, that's the problem
[16:41] <smerz> bobo123, are you sure the network port you're using will receive a dhcp response. and did you configure eth0 (lan) to use dhcp (or perhaps a static config)
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> odinsbane, when you say ubuntu disc you mean a full install, or a live cd disc
[16:41] <smerz> bobo123, it's not configure to use some sort of static configuration?
[16:42] <bobo123> smerz from the NetworkManager it is per default Automatic DHCP
[16:42] <smerz> yup
[16:42] <dethos> Hello, how can i install the package oxygen-gtk in my ubuntu? i can't find it in official repos
[16:42] <odinsbane> wilee-nilee: I want something that has additional packages to the default install.
[16:42] <bobo123> smerz: in windows i see that the router has gave me an IP address
[16:42] <odinsbane> wilee-nilee: it will be a live usb but I need some added functionality.
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> odinsbane, use a flash and persistent, just don't update it, and untick the cd in softwrae sources, run a update to get the repos synced but only install your pckgs
[16:43] <smerz> bobo123, can you run ifconfig. and private message me (or use nopaste) the data for eth0 ?
[16:44] <Somelauw> Is there a way to recover ubuntu as much as possible if a dist upgrade made the system unresponsive?
[16:44] <nagarjuna> hi all,  is there any GUI tool for sharing others desktop like team viewer in windows
[16:44] <odinsbane> wilee-nilee: what do you mean use a flash?
[16:44] <neglesaks> ubuntu one notes sync is still down.
[16:44] <smerz> bobo123, this is the ifconfig data, that my wireless has right now (for example) http://nopaste.info/f858e0d19c.html
[16:44] <odinsbane> wilee-nilee: do you mean flashdrive?
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> odinsbane, don't install the updates, just run it to get the repos synced for your installs, after unticking the cd
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> odinsbane, yes a flash drive.
[16:45] <bobo123> smerz, just a sec
[16:45] <wilee-nilee> odinsbane, you know what a persistent is?
[16:45] <ska> odinsbane: no its a desktop system.
[16:45] <odinsbane> wilee-nilee: I am not clear on what a persistent is.
[16:46] <nagarjuna>  is there any GUI tool for sharing others desktop like team viewer in windows
[16:46] <david> Hi all. I've set up Ubuntu Server 12.04 and am attempting to configure network shares using Samba (currently testing over home network using Windows 7). I have a read-only share that is working fine, but when I attempt to write to the non-read-only share using the Windows client, I'm getting an access denied / you need permission error. Any advice? :)
[16:46] <odinsbane> I have an iso, I used Unetbootin to create a flash drive with 1gig persistent data. It ran out of room. I tried to use 4gigs persistent and unetbootin froze.
[16:46] <wilee-nilee> odinsbane, usb installers like unetbootin and the installer in ubuntu have a persitent option so the usb flash has a memory of your installs,
[16:46] <wilee-nilee> persistent*
[16:47] <odinsbane> (the drive is is a 4gig memory stick)
[16:47] <thx1138> hello
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> odinsbane, you probably want at the least a 4 gig usb
[16:47] <halfmt> I have a screen brightness issue, been crawling the forums and nothing's working! Its not a simple key/software issue but more likely driver/device problem.  I can catch you up on what all I've tried if anyone's interested/has any suggestions?
[16:47] <thx1138> could someone help me with a cryptography question?
[16:48] <wilee-nilee> odinsbane, a usb load has limited use as it is reading the ISO, so installing updates will fill it up and possibly installing a kernel update will break it.
[16:48] <bobo123> smerz: i can't copy the ifconfig result because i can't manage now to get internet on the laptop, but i don't have an "inet4 addr" line in the result, there is only "inet6 addr" in the result with an MAC address after it
[16:48] <bobo123> smerz: it also says UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST...
[16:49] <bazhang> thx1138, ##crypto for that
[16:49] <smerz> bobo123, i just wanted to check that it infact did not have a good ipv4 addr ;-)
[16:49] <thx1138> 10x bazhang
[16:50] <nagarjuna> is there any GUI tool for sharing others desktop like team viewer in windows
[16:50] <cyf3r> LibSS7 1.0.2 just keeps on giving error's when I compile it...
[16:51] <cyf3r> mtp3.c:458:17: error: variable ‘sif’ set but not used [-Werror=unused-but-set-variable]
[16:51] <smerz> bobo123, just check that the lan cable actually get's a link active light (on pc/laptop or router).
[16:51] <Somelauw> Why is it that all text is displayed in a very huge caption when using a window manager other than unity?
[16:51] <smerz> bobo123, also maybe try "sudo dhclient -r"   (it's supposed to check for dhcp). it that doesn't work try "sudo /etc/init.d/network restart"
[16:51] <odinsbane> Okay so I have a 4gig memory stick, and unetbootin. I'm not sure how much persistent data I can allocate. When I said 4gigs it unetbootin froze.
[16:52] <Somelauw> Is there some way to fix it?
[16:52] <odinsbane> Somelauw: what wm?
[16:52] <smerz> bobo123, and you doo see your network interface in the ifconfig list right? i.e. the kernel did detect and install your network card right? ;-)
[16:52] <Somelauw> odinsbane: wmii
[16:53] <Somelauw> odinsbane: It never had that problem before. I suspect the login manager is messing with it temporarily.
[16:53] <odinsbane> Somelauw: what was the previous login manager?
[16:54] <Somelauw> odinsbane: Just gnome-login-manager and now the ubuntu 11.10-thing.
[16:55] <deepa> Can I mount ffs partitions_
[16:55] <deepa> ?
[16:55] <Somelauw> The defaults of ubuntu 11.4 and ubuntu 11.10. I didn't bother to change the login manager.
[16:55] <david> Hi all. I've set up Ubuntu Server 12.04 and am attempting to configure network shares using Samba (currently testing over home network using Windows 7). I have a read-only share that is working fine, but when I attempt to write to the non-read-only share using the Windows client, I'm getting an access denied / you need permission error. I *think* I've added the relevant options in Samba, but would appreciate assistance! :)
[16:57] <odinsbane> david: did you check #samba?
[16:58] <david> odinsbane: Ooh thanks, wasn't aware that channel existed :)
[16:58] <nagarjuna> Hi, Can any one answer this plz. Is there any GUI tool for sharing others desktop like team viewer in windows
[16:59] <escott> !vnc | nagarjuna
[16:59] <sulaiman> nagarjuna, I use rdesktop sometimes to remotely access my windows machine on my network
[17:00] <nagarjuna> ok i will with those tools. thx guys :)
[17:00] <smerz> nagarjuna, for personal use i recommend nxserver & nxclient.  they're faster than the other tools i've seen. comes close to citrix in windows ;-)
[17:00] <Eagleman> I cant find this folder for openvpn: /usr/share/openvpn/plugin/lib/openvpn-auth-pam.so
[17:01] <smerz> google nomachine
[17:01] <nagarjuna> smerz: i need to install nxserver to view the windwos desktop right?
[17:02] <odinsbane> who scored for england?
[17:02] <smerz> nagarjuna, ahh you want to connect to windows "remote desktop" ?
[17:02] <odinsbane> ... woops
[17:02] <smerz> nx client & nx server is to make a nice "linux remote desktop". disregard my comments then hehe
[17:02] <nagarjuna> smerz: yes i want to connect windows desktop using ubuntu
[17:02] <smerz> google linux RDP viewer
[17:02] <smerz> you
[17:03] <smerz> you'll find a client. i think there is one in ubuntu repository. easy to install
[17:03] <smerz> in fact it's already installed on mine
[17:03] <smerz> open dash board type "remote"
[17:03] <smerz> and you should have the remote desktop client in the list
[17:04] <gmachine_24> My wireless connection starts up and then after about 10 or 15 seconds it disconnects. Ubuntu 11.04 has been installed for whatever a year and I've never had problems before. Switched routers and it still happens. Other laptops it's not an issue. It's a BCM4312 wireless controller.
[17:04] <smerz> i got "remote desktop viewer" and "remina remote desktop client". can't tell you which one is better. but both of these appear to come with ubuntu ouf of the box ;-)
[17:04] <nagarjuna> smerz: i hav desktop sharing in my ubuntu
[17:05] <smerz> no client ?
[17:05] <smerz> then go into the ubuntu software manager and look for either of the 2 i named
[17:05] <nagarjuna> will it work for  windows. Ya there is remmina remote desktop clint is there
[17:05] <smerz> yes they will work. they're made to connect to windows "remote desktop" yes
[17:05] <BlackZatara> alg pode me ajudar
[17:06] <smerz> "remote desktop viewer" i'm sure it works
[17:06] <nagarjuna> tq i will try it
[17:06] <nagarjuna> :)
[17:06] <smerz> the remina remote desktop client, i've never spotted that one before ;-)
[17:06] <escott> !br | BlackZatara
[17:06] <Eagleman> I cant find this folder for openvpn: /usr/share/openvpn/plugin/lib/openvpn-auth-pam.so
[17:06] <smerz> nagarjuna, easier than expected huh? :)
[17:07] <smerz> gmachine_24, try the 12.04 live cd. see how it works in there
[17:07] <smerz> new kernel, maybe better support for your wireless chip
[17:07] <smerz> gmachine_24, could also be poor signal if you're far away from the AP
[17:07] <gmachine_24> smerz, but it worked fine for a year
[17:07] <smerz> hm
[17:07] <gmachine_24> and the signal is strong
[17:07] <BlackZatara> Good afternoon friends ...
[17:08] <smerz> gmachine_24, your neighbourhood didn't invade your wlan channel right?
[17:08] <smerz> though unlikely the cause heh
[17:08] <gmachine_24> smerz, no. but I thought of that. I tried different channels
[17:08] <deepa>  Can you mount FFS in Ubuntu_
[17:08] <deepa> ?
[17:08] <BlackZatara> I am very difficult to set up my notebook vga
[17:08] <gmachine_24> smerz, the thing is the problem is only on this one laptop
[17:08] <smerz> gmachine_24, 60% of my neighbours are on the first channel hah
[17:08] <BlackZatara> Can someone help me
[17:08] <smerz> gmachine_24, hmm i dunno then
[17:09] <smerz> try disabling wlan power saving
[17:09] <gmachine_24> smerz, ok
[17:09] <smerz> that's an odd one though
[17:09] <smerz> but it helped me on my campus wlan
[17:09] <BlackZatara> My notebook is a HP G42-371br and he has two video cards
[17:11] <OerHeks> BlackZatara, optimus?
[17:11] <smerz> gmachine_24, "Power Management:off" when you run "iwconfig". can't recall how to disable it anymore :(
[17:11] <BlackZatara> oerHeks
[17:11] <BlackZatara> hi
[17:12] <gmachine_24> smerz, I just checked. Power management is already off.
[17:12] <AptGetter> Hi. How do I do an "apt-get upgrade" but exclude certain packages? Specifically I want to "apt-get upgrade" without upgrading any Unity packages. Thanks.
[17:12] <BlackZatara> I'm having problems at the installation vga of my noteboo
[17:12] <odinsbane> Damn unetbooten froze again while setting up persistence. It doesn't like 3gigs either.
[17:12] <BlackZatara> help me
[17:12] <BlackZatara> ?
[17:12] <odinsbane> BlackZatara: what cards are you using.
[17:13] <BlackZatara> um min
[17:13] <smerz> gmachine_24, which channel are you on, and which are your neighbours on?
[17:13] <smerz> because like channel 1,2,3 they all overlap. you really want to be 4-5 chans away from the mass. other than that I got no further ideas sorry :(
[17:13] <BlackZatara> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]
[17:13] <BlackZatara> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Robson CE [AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series]
[17:14] <tarathiel> hi, is there any way to bypass unity-greeter through ssh?
[17:14] <odinsbane> BlackZatara: so you want an external monitor?
[17:14] <deepa> Can you mount FFS in Ubuntu?
[17:15] <BlackZatara> I want better performance, because it consumes much battery for my notebook and I can not use hdm
[17:15] <smerz> deepa, i never heard of "FFS" but linux usually can mount a lot of types.
[17:15] <deepa> Berkeley Fast File System
[17:15] <McDuffy> [17:16] <deepa> oh hey, apparently called UFS too
[17:16] <OerHeks> BlackZatara, so it is hybride graphics ?
[17:16] <smerz> deepa, yeah maybe go investigate along that route hehe
[17:18] <BlackZatara> yes
[17:18] <sanguisdex> so here an odd one for you. I was using wifi, then I plugged in, now wifi can't get any data depitethe connection
[17:18] <sanguisdex> what should I be looking at?
[17:20] <crazicoder> hi all
[17:20] <KRomo> anyone know if the apple keyboard will work with ubuntu 12.04?
[17:22] <KRomo> the wired keyboard
[17:23] <sunday> hi hi
[17:24] <OerHeks> KRomo, why don't you plug it in and see?
[17:24] <RBV> KRomo: Sure it does
[17:26] <KRomo> i dont own ir yet lol
[17:26] <KRomo> OerHeks, thanks for the great advice lol
[17:27] <oooaaaoooo> hi guys does anyone know if empathy supports proxies?
[17:27] <RBV> oooaaaoooo: Did you even ask google? http://anupam128.blogspot.com/2011/03/using-empathy-behind-proxy.html
[17:28] <ssta> RBV: the policy of this channel tends to be "be nice to those people too inexperienced or lazy to google" :)
[17:30] <pokkos> 000
[17:30] <escott> ssta, RBV, i'm not sure lazy is allowed (i certainly don't help lazy people), but not everyone knows the right terms to google
[17:31] <ssta> nah, lazy is allowed
[17:31] <ssta> "be nice to everyone, no matter what"
[17:31] <martinphone> i HAVE 400 radio stations I want to add to radio tray, but all of em are as link to: In the libreoffice calc document I am editing I see only kbps, the actual address is the link. I need to replace kbps for the actual address
[17:32] <escott> martinphone, can you give an example line of what you have and what you need to have?
[17:32] <go8765> Hello. Is anyway to download blogspot blog via wget with pictures that posting in blog?
[17:34] <martinphone> escott: for just one line I see 128kbps, if I pass the mouse over it, the part I need appears: http://www.wdr.de/wdrlive/media/wdr2_essen_duesseldorf.m3u
[17:34] <martinphone> like that for 400 lines
[17:35] <escott> martinphone, does the link appear if you save as csv and open in a text editor?
[17:35] <odinsbane> go8765: I beleive you need to follow links.
[17:35] <martinphone> escott, no idea... ill give that a try
[17:36] <odinsbane> go8765: or maybe something like this? http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.misc/2006-03/msg00222.html
[17:37] <escott> martinphone, alternately save as xml and then run grep and sed over the xml to find all the links
[17:38] <falematte> hi all, i an trying to make a simple script that opens 4 firefox windows: http://pastebin.com/1m65gcSy If i launch it i get only one window started and then, if i close it another one ic created. What can i do to fix this?
[17:38] <go8765> odinsbane: blogspot have pictures urls, like 3.bp.blogspot.* and wget dont download it, becouse it have not the same like blog url :(
[17:39] <escott> falematte, command &
[17:39] <falematte> escott, i tried that one too. In terminal it works but not in the script!
[17:39] <escott> falematte, what is your shebang? /bin/sh is dash not bash
[17:40] <sunday> .-.
[17:40] <sunday> byeeeeeeeee
[17:40] <falematte> escott, #!/usr/bin/env python
[17:41] <falematte> escott, This is my first script :P Aniway i think u mean that line isn't it?
[17:41] <odinsbane> go8765: what about setting the Domain Acceptance? http://www.editcorp.com/Personal/Lars_Appel/wget/wget_4.html
[17:41] <escott> falematte, (a) why are you specifying "env python" instead of just python? (b) for a python script I dont know how you would background a job. python isnt a shell
[17:42] <odinsbane> escott: that is the correct way.
[17:42] <Somelauw> Hi, I noticed that both wmii and awesome don't work correctly in ubuntu 11.10. Has support for everything besides unity been stopped?
[17:43] <Somelauw> Or has it something to do with my computer.
[17:43] <falematte> escott, i am folowing a guide, i dunno why the "env". I am using python because is really more flexible than bash! With the subprocess.call it should do the job! With google chrome it works!
[17:44] <odinsbane> falematte: you #! line is correct.
[17:45] <falematte> odinsbane, i think i need some Firefox option...
[17:45] <odinsbane> falematte: .call isn't as good as Popen. Is .call being called four times?
[17:45] <ssta> falematte: I don't think firefox spawns a new window from the command line if one is already open.  There's a -new-window option IIRC
[17:45] <falematte> Odd-rationale, yes
[17:45] <odinsbane> falematte: ie add a check, print "something"
[17:46] <falematte> odinsbane, checking
[17:47] <falematte> odinsbane, how to ad a command in the for loop in python?
[17:48] <falematte> ssta, i tried that option too :S
[17:48] <roaje> hey i just updated firefox, when i open a new tab it shows me a list of commonly visited sites
[17:49] <roaje> i dont see a prefernce option to disable that, anyone know how?
[17:50] <zally666> hi
[17:50] <zally666> so how do i reinstall dvb-t&analog tvtuner drivers in ubuntu ?
[17:51] <JoseeAntonioR> zally666: sudo apt-get install --reinstall dvb-t analogtvtuner
[17:51] <roaje> aha found it - in about:config the option is browser.newtabpage.enabled
[17:52] <kangarooo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/145601/how-to-install-package-without-internet-connection
[17:53] <odinsbane> I'm using kubuntu a kubuntu livecd and I used usb-creator-kde to create a usb and now it askes me to 'try ubuntu' or install every time.
[17:54] <odinsbane> falematte: put a return after the colon, and then indent your line for each line of code.
[17:54] <Somelauw> anyone?
[17:55] <falematte> odinsbane, ok the function is launched 3 times
[17:55] <odinsbane> falematte: but still only 1 window?
[17:56] <falematte> odinsbane, yes but if i close it another one is opened
[17:59] <falematte> odinsbane, ok problem solved, thx for help! here is the code  http://pastebin.com/NiVUGVrX
[18:00] <Bhavesh> Using Compiz on 12.04 will kill me?
[18:00] <xangua> Bhavesh: if you are using unity you are alreasy using compiz
[18:01] <Bhavesh> xangua: I mean ccsm, or the desktop effects
[18:01] <Somelauw> Does unity by chance ignore Xdefaults?
[18:01] <xangua> Bhavesh: depends on the effects, unity+cube=bad idea
[18:01] <Bhavesh> ok
[18:02] <delac> Bhavesh: use ccsm only when also using gnome classic desktop
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> Bhavesh  i tried unity + cube, for testing purposes and i can rrpeat what xangua  says
[18:02] <Bhavesh> delac: so you mean I should install gnome-shell and then use ccsm on unity?
[18:02] <Bhavesh> no
[18:03] <delac> Bhavesh: I think gnome-panel is enough for gnome classic, but gnome-shell might incluede it too...
[18:03] <Bhavesh> MonkeyDust: ok, rt
[18:03] <Bhavesh> ty*
[18:03] <Bhavesh> alright
[18:04] <delac> Bhavesh: just see that the unity plugin is disabled in the ccsm before you start using other plugins
[18:04] <Bhavesh> delac: ok thank you.
[18:05] <jennie> what are features in ubuntu that makes it ahead of other distros ?
[18:06] <oCean> jennie: this channel is for tech support issues. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussion
[18:08] <Jancoover> ##english
[18:11] <LoRez> is there a way to get ubuntu 11.10/12.04 to not capture Alt-~?
[18:12] <Python132o> root@arsenic:~/veth1#  iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m statistic --mode nth --every 2 --packet 0 -j WAN0
[18:12] <Python132o> /lib/xtables/libxt_statistic.so: /lib/xtables/libxt_statistic.so: undefined symbol: lround  [18:13] <OAlexM992> E ai pessoas.
[18:21] <jennie> I want my both hardware work printer and GFX card and drivers are available for linux please tell that ubuntu will make both work http://support-in.canon-asia.com/contents/IN/EN/0900772424.html http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/amd-radeon-hd-6000/hd-6570/pages/amd-radeon-hd-6570-overview.aspx
[18:22] <martinphone> help, I need step by step instructions to extract all addresses from 400 lines of text
[18:22] <escott> martinphone, did they appear in the csv?
[18:22] <martinphone> escott, csv file will only list the actual text, not the links
[18:23] <martinphone> same for xml
[18:23] <martinphone> unless I am missing something, given the noob I am
[18:24] <escott> martinphone, paste an example line that contains the link then
[18:25] <martinphone> escott, 128 Kbps
[18:25] <deffrag> How to find which device driver is in use to when USB hub is working?
[18:25] <martinphone> right click on that will show the link
[18:25] <escott> martinphone, no you need to find that text in the file
[18:26] <escott> martinphone, when you open that file in gedit you need to find that link
[18:27] <jennie> ?
[18:29] <ska> I may have broken apt. I accidentally killed 'aptitude dist-upgrade' when it finished its download.
[18:29] <Frood> when one moves a hard drive from one computer to another with Ubuntu on it, what do you have to do to get all the drivers, etc.
[18:29] <ska> Is there a way to jump it?
[18:29] <odinsbane> ska: apt-get install -f
[18:29] <Frood> apparently Ubuntu didn't like moving from a Pentium with integrated graphics to an i5 with integrated graphics.
[18:29] <odinsbane> Frood: why not reinstall?
[18:30] <Frood> odinsbane: Because I have all the data on this one, and it's easier to just move the hard drive over.
[18:31] <escott> Frood, i would think both would work as both use i915 what is in /etc/modules?
[18:31] <ska> odinsbane: that didn't work but "aptitude upgrade -f" seems to have started a party.
[18:31] <Frood> escott: just two lines. lp
[18:31] <Frood> rtc
[18:32] <kollision> i installed ia32-libs and now i cannot uninstall them
[18:32] <escott> Frood, you dont have an Xorg.conf do you?
[18:32] <escott> Frood, and what version is ubuntu/what revision is the i5
[18:33] <odinsbane> muon is a horrible estimater of diskspace usage. I removed some packages and updated a couple. It claimed I would save 85 megs, I ended up using an additional 130megs. And that was after using apt-get clean.
[18:33] <Frood> escott: ivy bridge, i5-3550, and 12.04
[18:34] <Frood> i don't recall creating Xorg.conf, but it was probably automatically generated
[18:34] <Bhavesh_> Looks like gnome-shell for 64bit ubuntu 12.04 is missing from Ubuntu repos. Because sudo apt-get install gnome-shell returns 404 Nor Found.
[18:34] <kollision> how can i get rid off that package ia32-libs? installation failed and now the apt db seems to be inconsistent
[18:34] <escott> Frood, i'm not sure what it could be. i would expect that to autodetect
[18:34] <Bhavesh_> Not*
[18:35] <Frood> it seems to have fixed itself.
[18:35] <Frood> now... why won't it detect that I have a bluetooth adapter?
[18:35] <Silivrenion> Having a problem. I upgraded from 11 to 12, and now the system won't boot into unity? It gets stuck after checking battery state and wont continue. Help?
[18:36] <Frood> with an intel centrino 6230
[18:36] <Nicee> hi
[18:36] <Nicee> porn
[18:36] <oCean> Nicee: please behave
[18:36] <Nicee> ok
[18:37] <Nicee> hi
[18:37] <Silivrenion> What does one do when a distro upgrade fails?
[18:37] <Nicee> Is my computer open for Poker?
[18:38] <Nicee> porn
[18:38] <Kruptein> Hey I have the problem that some of my applications don't get an icon in the unity bar and hence if I minimize them I can't get to them anymore as alt-tab won't display the apps either
[18:39] <det> Is it possible to make the system defaults fonts be the Deja Vu fonts instead of the Droid fonts ?
[18:40] <Silivrenion> I cant get ubuntu to start past the loading of a few services. How can i fix this after the upgrade?
[18:41] <deffrag> How to find which kernel driver is in use for connected USB hub?
[18:41] <Silivrenion> I can't find any ubuntu information on what to do if an upgrade fails
[18:41] <escott> deffrag, lshw
[18:42] <M4rv> ciao
[18:42] <M4rv> !list
[18:43] <Eagleman> How to get rid of bacula? i'm seeing pieces of it everywhere, like in my mysql database and in /etc/init.d
[18:45] <kollision> var/cache/apt/archives/libqtcore4_4%3a4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb
[18:45] <kollision> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:45] <kollision> wtf?
[18:45] <Silivrenion> Is there any way to revert the 12.04 upgrade? Or am i stuck reinstalling?
[18:45] <kollision> i have an amd64 and not an i386 system
[18:45] <cypher-neo> Silivrenion, What went wrong?
[18:45] <jennie> please answer friends I want my both hardware work, printer and GFX card and drivers are available for linux please tell ubuntu will make both work http://support-in.canon-asia.com/contents/IN/EN/0900772424.html http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/amd-radeon-hd-6000/hd-6570/pages/amd-radeon-hd-6570-overview.aspx
[18:45] <Silivrenion> Upgrade from 11 to 12 went ok, restarted.  Wont boot now
[18:46] <Silivrenion> It shows ubuntu purple with dots,  some terminal text and stops
[18:46] <cypher-neo> Silivrenion, What does the Terminal text say?
[18:46] <Silivrenion> checking batter state.  OK
[18:47] <Silivrenion> Thays the last msg
[18:47] <cypher-neo> Silivrenion, You upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04?
[18:47] <Silivrenion> Yes
[18:48] <deffrag> escott: No, I don't see USB hub in lshw
[18:48] <cypher-neo> Silivrenion, See if you can access the boot menu by holding down Shift while it boots.
[18:48] <Silivrenion> One sec
[18:49] <cypher-neo> Silivrenion, There should be additional options in there. And if you have left-over linux images that haven't been deleted you could try booting from an older one and see if it completes the boot.
[18:49] <Silivrenion> Im in grub
[18:50] <cypher-neo> Silivrenion, Otherwise just hold for now... I'm gonna look something up.
[18:50] <Silivrenion> Ok
[18:50] <Eagleman> Kinda offtopic, how do i login on freenode?
[18:50] <dirtdog> dont they use nickserv
[18:50] <xangua> !identify | Eagleman
[18:50] <cknox> Eagleman: /msg nickserv help
[18:51] <cypher-neo> Silivrenion, This sounds like your problem here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859820
[18:51] <Silivrenion> I see 3.0.0 20 generic and recovery,  previous version , and memtest,
[18:51] <oCean> martinphone: I think if you Export as.. and choose XHTML, it will show the actual URL in the output
[18:51] <oCean> martinphone: a little sed and cut will filter the links from that content
[18:51] <cypher-neo> Silivrenion, Looks like it could be a graphics issue.
[18:51] <tuxgeek> Eagleman: "/connect irc.freenode.net"
[18:51] <Silivrenion> really?
[18:51] <xangua> Silivrenion: sounds like the kernel was not upgraded, did your pc go to hibernation while upgrading interrupting the upgrade itself¿
[18:52] <Silivrenion> No
[18:52] <Silivrenion> It completed ok
[18:52] <Eagleman> No login into my account
[18:52] <oCean> Eagleman: please use #freenode channel for that
[18:52] <Silivrenion> I restarted when the distro upgrade prompted
[18:52] <Eagleman> ty
[18:52] <cypher-neo> xangua, Check this out. It's sounds eerily the same http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859820
[18:53] <martinphone> oCean, Im already cutting with geany...
[18:53] <martinphone> but thanks
[18:53] <oCean> martinphone: ah ok.
[18:53] <fasta> How do I get previews to work in dolphin for PDF files? I already told Dolphin to show them for PDF files, but it just doesn't work.
[18:54] <Silivrenion> Strange, i dont use proprietary drivers. Its a netbook
[18:55] <KRomo> wow just bought the apple keyboard from best buy...the thing is amazing
[18:56] <Silivrenion> This is wierd
[18:56] <Silivrenion> I opened in a terminal view and typed startx... nothing on screen
[18:56] <Silivrenion> Wait, theres a cursor
[18:57] <Guest54787> Ya I need a Project to work on today:) I just dont know what to do...
[18:58] <Silivrenion> Its acting very strange. No mouse movement. I see page icons on the screen but no text or filetype icons. Theres no unity elements
[18:59] <jennie> ...
[18:59] <melkor> jennie one question at a time maybe. What is wrong with the printer?
[18:59] <kangarooo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/145601/how-to-install-package-without-internet-connection
[19:01] <jennie> i want to know that printer will work or not ?
[19:01] <melkor> jennie: I don't know why it wouldn't
[19:04] <jennie> melkor i am noob i just want to confirm that it should work else i have to take pain of switching back to windows coz of this printer only i switched back to windows  2 years and at that time there were no driver by canon
[19:04] <xangua> !printer  | jennie
[19:06] <ki7rw> i have a problem with k3b under ubuntu 12.04 - it doesn't recoginize the installed normalize-audio package
[19:06] <usr13> jennie: localhost:631
[19:06] <Silivrenion> Cypher-neo, i tried doing the nvidia thing just for kicks, but theres no nvidia card in this thing. I cant get x to start correctly
[19:06] <jennie> http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Canon/Canon-LBP_2900B is still paperweight
[19:07] <usr13> jennie: Get another printer.
[19:07] <jennie> if it is paperweight then what canon is providing ?
[19:09] <david> hey can someone tell me how to modify the login screen like change the default resolution and background?
[19:09] <david> btw im running 12.04
[19:09] <usr13> jennie: You'll have to talk to the folks at canon about that.
[19:10] <martinphone> offtopic, but dont know where to ask: I need a genay channel
[19:10] <martinphone> geany*
[19:11] <User_007> Hello folks! Does anyone know where can i get support for iwlwifi driver? i really need help
[19:11] <Darael> !anyone | User_007
[19:11] <xangua> david change your desktop background and the login screen will use the same
[19:12] <txomon|home> can anyone check in a computer that belongs to a domain, that making dig <hostname> doesn't get resolved as nslookup <hostname> =
[19:12] <txomon|home> ?
[19:13] <david> xangua: and how would you change the default login screen resolution (in 12.04)
[19:13] <Boohbah> txomon|home: what?
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> david  best way to find out is by trying
[19:13] <User_007> Where can i get support for iwlwifi driver? i really need help
[19:14] <txomon|home> Boohbah, I think the dig command has a bug in, and I also think it is only in ubuntu (haven't checked it yet)
[19:15] <Silivrenion> :( bah, i cant figure out why x is being all lethargic and wont start properly
[19:15] <david> MonkeyDust: Believe me, I have tried AND googled but can't find anything. I can change the screen resolution for when I am logged in but I need to change the screen resolution for the login screen itself
[19:15] <txomon|home> in theory dig hostname should look first into the domain, and then go ask root servers (as specified in docs) but it doesn't
[19:16] <txomon|home> david, have you tried searching for lightdm?
[19:17] <txomon|home> btw, anyone knows when the ICANN is going out of EEUU? or if it is going to be freed someday?
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> txomon|home  that's a question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:19] <txomon|home> MonkeyDust, ok, and the relevant question?
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> txomon|home  you mean about dig? don't know
[19:20] <txomon|home> ok
[19:23] <Boohbah> txomon|home: dig will first look at your caching nameserver specified in /etc/resolv.conf
[19:23] <fasta> How do I get a full crash report interface instead of the dumbed down one which is offered by default when some application crashes?
[19:24] <mpwd> Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 and preserve an existing windows installation; I have been using the partitioner that comes in the installer to resize my existing windows partition, and now I have an "unusable" partition
[19:24] <fasta> I think Microsoft also allows the user to see which information it is going to send to MS.
[19:24] <david> #elysian_shadows
[19:25] <Boohbah> fasta: you can get a core file by editing limits.conf
[19:25] <mpwd> Can anybody lend me a hand, or point me to a tutorial?
[19:25] <mpwd> (thx)
[19:25] <xangua> you could just select the install alongside option in the ubuntu installer mpwd
[19:25] <xangua> !dualboot | mpwd
[19:27] <Boohbah> mpwd: did you complete the ubuntu install?
[19:27] <mpwd> xangua: I don't seem to have the "alongside" option.  Just "Replace Windows" and "Something Else", which drops me into the partitioner
[19:27] <mpwd> Boohbah:  No, I'm stuck at repartitioning
[19:27] <reisio> mpwd: you tried to boot into windows and it didn't boot?
[19:27] <mpwd> reisio:  I haven't tried it yet, but I think it should be fine
[19:28] <reisio> mpwd: oh unusable as in maybe you've used up your primaries
[19:28] <mpwd> reisio:  I am sure that is the case
[19:28] <FliP> siema
[19:28] <reisio> mpwd: what's taking up your other partitions?
[19:28] <FliP> cs 1.6     mix    5v5,ON,low
[19:29] <knobydobs> Hello
[19:29] <AceFace> hello all!
[19:29] <txomon|home> Boohbah, yes, but it doesn't
[19:29] <mpwd> reisio:  Windows 7, and some things I am not sure about.  This isn't my machine, it's a friend's I'm trying to help out.
[19:30] <knobydobs> FGLRX is causing me major problems
[19:30] <txomon|home> sorry, it does, but doesn't ask for <hostname>.<domain> it asks directly for <hostname>.
[19:30] <darkangel> have u tried to download and replace the file
[19:30] <AceFace> Is this the proper channel for asking help on my ubuntu install?
[19:30] <DJones> AceFace: Yes it is
[19:31] <txomon|home> so the server forwards or recurses, whatever, you don't have it resolved
[19:31] <AceFace> Awesome!
[19:31] <Slow> I'm having trouble with an Ubuntu installation (installed using wubi)... it will install fine, but after a reboot (dual booting with windows 7)... I receive an error and the screen gets "lines" across it and never finishes booting
[19:31] <mpwd> reisio: It looks like one parition is for "recovery", another is the boot partition, another is windows 7 and finally there's a small partition for HP_TOOLs
[19:31] <reisio> mpwd: ah
[19:31] <knobydobs> If i try to use ubuntu 3D then I get a screen with the sidebar (inactive) and a completely blank grey bar across the top
[19:31] <darkangel> ubuntu should install basically on its own unless ur having hardware issues
[19:31] <Slow> I'm new to linux but can follow some simple commands for trouble shooting
[19:31] <reisio> mpwd: well the only two you actually need are Windows & Windows' boot
[19:31] <reisio> mpwd: if you want to backup the others that might be worthwhile
[19:32] <knobydobs> I am using 12.04 LTS
[19:32] <martinphone> what command can I use to append 200 names to 200 url's if I have 2 txt files?
[19:32] <davidkim> dgaegweg
[19:33] <zykotick9> martinphone: so append you can use >> like "cat file1 >> file2" (make backups first)
[19:33] <reisio> martinphone: paste -d ' ' one two > three
[19:33] <AceFace> Ive installed ubuntu server 12.04 and openssh, i intend to keep this a headless server in the long run. I am currently on a windows machine and i'd like to ssh into my ubuntu server. I am having issue sending sudo commands over ssh, i get the error "sudo no tty present and no askpass program specified"
[19:33] <AceFace> does anyone know how to fix this issue?
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> AceFace  do you ssh and then sudo, or sudo within the ssh command?
[19:35] <AceFace> http://img.ctrlv.in/4fca6b1033796.jpg
[19:36] <AceFace> there is a screenshot of the error
[19:36] <AceFace> any commands that require "sudo" is wanting me to enter a passwordf
[19:36] <Boohbah> AceFace: you can't use sudo without a tty
[19:36] <AceFace> ok
[19:36] <theadmin> AceFace: Try using PuTTY or KiTTY  it seems whatever you are using doesn't quite fit for a proper ssh client.
[19:37] <AceFace> hmmm. i will try putty
[19:37] <martinphone> zykotick9, like "urlnames.txt >> urls.txt ?
[19:37] <DJones> AceFace: I'd recommend putty as well
[19:37] <AceFace> thank you for the suggestion!
[19:37] <martinphone> zykotick9, like "urlnames.txt >> urls.txt" ?
[19:37] <reisio> martinphone: paste -d ' ' one two > three
[19:38] <martinphone> reiso,>>> paste -d ''urlnames.txt > urls.txt <<<
[19:38] <Zentaur> hi
[19:38] <reisio> martinphone: no... 'one' represents the first file, 'two' the second, and 'three' the final output file that has yet to be created
[19:38] <martinphone> aa
[19:38] <reisio> martinphone: paste -d ' ' urls.txt urlnames.txt > combined.txt
[19:38] <Zentaur> rhythmbox-radio-browser doesn't seem to work with rhythmbox in 12.04
[19:39] <Zentaur> what could i do? i can't browse the icecast service
[19:39] <martinphone> reiso,>>> paste -d ''urlnames.txt urls.txt > combined.txt <<<, because I want urlnames to appear before urls
[19:40] <martinphone> no?
[19:40] <theadmin> martinphone: You're missing a space.
[19:40] <theadmin> martinphone: -d is used to specify a delimeter -- an empty one is a *bad* idea in your case
[19:40] <reisio> martinphone: but otherwise the reordering is fine
[19:41] <martinphone> paste -d ' 'urlnames.txt urls.txt > combined.txt << is the space correct now?
[19:41] <robert__> robert
[19:41] <robert__> cześć
[19:41] <martinphone> paste -d ' ' urlnames.txt urls.txt > combined.txt
[19:41] <theadmin> !cz | robert__
[19:42] <Slow> Can anyone help with a wubi instalation that errors out after a reboot?
[19:42] <martinphone> many thanks both theadmin reisio
[19:42] <reisio> martinphone: paste -d ' ' urlnames.txt urls.txt | perl -pe 's/^(.*?) (http.*)/<a href="\2">\1<\/a><br>/g' > combined.html
[19:43] <reisio> Slow: depends on the error of course
[19:43] <martinphone> reisio, I executed and it seems everything is ok...
[19:43] <martinphone> name and urls...
[19:43] <reisio> last one there will give you usable HTML links as output
[19:44] <Slow> reiso: that's the problem... the error message flashes too fast to capture and then the screen gets "lines" across it
[19:44] <drecute> how do I do a pam configuration for sudo?
[19:44] <dontknow> hi, i want to encrypt home directory, i found a guide. is it ok giving my user account password or should i choose different pass?
[19:44] <reisio> drecute: to accomplish what
[19:44] <reisio> Slow: lines?
[19:44] <drecute> to make it use NIS
[19:45] <reisio> dontknow: it's okay, but another pass would add another potential layer of security
[19:45] <Slow> yup. almost like the graphics card is failing/ driver issue... except it works just fine before a reboot
[19:45]  * reisio shrugs
[19:45] <reisio> wubi is problematic
[19:45] <Slow> i'm dual booting (on a laptop) with windows 7
[19:45] <mpwd> reiso:  A little update, the HP_TOOLS partition can be recreated using this utility: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-99123-1&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en
[19:45] <mpwd> reisio: So I'm going to just delete it and make a logical partition
[19:45] <mpwd> Thanks for your help!
[19:46] <Guest88577> i have the ISO of the Edubuntu Precise Pangolin release.  I'm trying to install it on an Ubuntu 7.10 machine... any help would be greatly appreciated! :)
[19:46] <Slow> reiso: it's weird. it's done this twice... but the install went just fine otherwise
[19:46] <reisio> mpwd: it can be recreated using dd and a copy of the partition layout :)
[19:46] <reisio> mpwd: but you don't technically need it
[19:47] <reisio> Slow: if you type 'rei' then hit TAB, what happens?
[19:47] <Slow> reiso: inside of ubuntu?
[19:47] <Slow> I don't know... i'll have to attempt to boot back in to it
[19:48] <reisio> Slow: no here :p
[19:48] <Slow> :P
[19:48] <Slow> give me a bit
[19:48] <reisio> no really...
[19:48] <Slow> will have to reboot
[19:48] <drecute> what does this mean? pam configuration for sudo
[19:48] <reisio> can you type 'rei' into your IRC chat window, and then hit TAB?
[19:48] <reisio> drecute: you tell us
[19:48] <Slow> reisio
[19:48] <reisio> Slow: aha :)
[19:48] <Slow> yes
[19:49] <Slow> ?
[19:49] <Slow> i'm missing something
[19:49] <drecute> reisio: I can't su to a NIS user
[19:49] <CoJaBo> What do I need to do to install Sun (or is it oracle now) Java?
[19:49] <drecute> reisio: so I was told to configure pam configuration for sudo
[19:49] <D[4]ni> is there any graphical (!) folder diff application for ubuntu?
[19:49] <reisio> Slow: didn't seem like you knew how to do that
[19:49] <reisio> D[4]ni: meld
[19:50] <Slow> ic
[19:50] <reisio> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[19:50] <dontknow> reisio, is it easy to find user password? Or is it possible? i believe i have strong password, so do you say is it ok giving my pass for encrypted home?
[19:50] <reisio> dontknow: no it's not really easy from the system
[19:51] <reisio> dontknow: it's just that if someone manages to learn your log in password
[19:51] <reisio> dontknow: they also would have access to your data
[19:51] <reisio> dontknow: it's up to you whether you want the additional security that would come with a separate password
[19:51] <D[4]ni> reisio: thanks, looks nice
[19:51] <Slow> reisio: other than installing ubuntu manually... well, from a disk, any suggestions?
[19:51] <theadmin> dontknow: http://xkcd.com/792/
[19:52] <reisio> Slow: you don't want to do an ordinary install?
[19:52] <Slow> eh, wubi is just easier
[19:52] <Slow> I mean, I can... but now I'm curious why it's failing
[19:53] <Pupeno> Hello.
[19:53] <Pupeno> Is there an easy to use GUI program to configure which services run at startup in Ubuntu?
[19:53] <knobydobs> Do i want fglrx?
[19:53] <dontknow> theadmin, so you say use different pass?
[19:54] <theadmin> dontknow: Well, yeah, I mean, extra security never hurts, right?
[19:54] <knobydobs> Pupeno what version are you using?
[19:54] <Pupeno> knobydobs: 12.04 I believe.
[19:54] <reisio> theadmin: hrmmm, what's the March 1997 ref to?
[19:54] <theadmin> Pupeno: There's this "rcconf" thing
[19:54] <theadmin> reisio: ...?
[19:54] <reisio> in xkcd you linked
[19:54] <Pupeno> I'm looking for something with a GUI.
[19:55] <dontknow> reisio, theadmin thanks
[19:55] <knobydobs> Go to the top, right of your screen to the power symbol and click Startup Applications
[19:55] <theadmin> reisio: I'm not sure what you're talking about
[19:56] <reisio> theadmin: there's a reference to March 1997 in the xkcd you linked
[19:56] <theadmin> reisio: Still not sure, also this sort of got offtopic
[19:56]  * reisio shrugs
[19:56] <knobydobs> Pupeno Go to the top, right of your screen to the power symbol and click Startup Applications
[19:59] <Pupeno> knobydobs: where is Startup Applications?
[19:59] <Pupeno> nevermind.
[20:00] <mikeS11> Having troubles installing ubuntu from USB. I am using the latest version of unetbootin. I have downloaded a fresh iso file. I have used multiple computers to create the bootable USB. The problem is that it says the "installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted". Ideas?
[20:01] <neglesaks> ubuntu one notes sync is still down for me, but the status page still says its runnign OK. someone able to check if its really running?
[20:01] <theadmin> mikeS11: Try LiLi (if you're still on Windows) or dd, unetbootin has *always* failed me.
[20:01] <harushimo> http://cloud.ubuntu.com/
[20:01] <mikeS11> theadmin: I'll give dd a shot. Thanks.
[20:01] <haryv> trying to link users login ftp account with /var/www but following the directions on http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6726542/give-ftp-user-access-to-specific-directory give me a error when loging in as 500 OOPS: cannot change directors /home/user
[20:01] <harushimo> I'm using this website to setup maas
[20:01] <harushimo> on vm
[20:01] <knobydobs> Is there any way to use 3d acceleration without fglrx?
[20:02] <harushimo> what does it mean update address with my network?
[20:02] <harushimo> it looks like the person is using a router address?
[20:02] <harushimo> some clarification would great
[20:03] <harushimo> or do I need to setup another vm for ubuntu-server
[20:03] <haryv> mmm mabey no one here has set up a web server for users ftp accounts?
[20:06] <CoJaBo> What do I need to do to install Sun (or is it oracle now) Java?
[20:06] <CoJaBo> Is this possible still?
[20:06] <ratcheer> CoJaBo: Yes, if you do it manually.
[20:07] <CoJaBo> How? And what happend to the easy way, anyway :/
[20:08] <knobydobs> CoJaBo: sudo apt-get update-sun-java I think
[20:08] <theadmin> knobydobs: That's not even valid apt syntax
[20:08] <ratcheer> Really? I thought Oracle stopped letting them package it.
[20:08] <CoJaBo> knobydobs: That was close, but it was removed from apt.
[20:08] <knobydobs> ahh - i forget install
[20:08] <CoJaBo> Yeh, I tried, its gone.
[20:09] <ratcheer> Like I said...
[20:09] <knobydobs> Ok - still woks here
[20:09] <CoJaBo> Also tried some of the manual ways, the commands do not actually run.
[20:09] <CoJaBo> Also, it isn't clear which version I need, 32 or 64?
[20:10] <ratcheer> I gave up a while back and just run the open source Java. No real problems with it.
[20:10] <CoJaBo> 64bit machine, assuming Firefox is 64bit, but Java website says 32bit version is needed for plugin :/
[20:10] <root____6> hello!
[20:11] <knobydobs> CoJaBo: go to duinsoft.nl
[20:12] <knobydobs> CoJaBo: go to duinsoft.nl/packages
[20:12] <mikeS11> CoJaBo: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2011-December/001528.html
[20:12] <CoJaBo> ratcheer: Whats the command to install that? And does it support webstart, 3d stuff, etc, or is it still the watered-down version that came with older ubuntu
[20:12] <mikeS11> CoJaBo: Oracle changed their licensing
[20:12] <CoJaBo> mikeS11: Yeh, I've noticed :/
[20:12] <knobydobs> CoJaBo: The Duinsoft i can confirm working
[20:13] <CoJaBo> knobydobs: Have the correct url tho?
[20:13] <mikeS11> CoJaBo: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[20:13] <ratcheer> CoJaBo: I haven't done it in quite a while. I gave it up when Oracle stopped letting them package it. I used to do manual installs all the time.
[20:13] <mikeS11> CoJaBo: Or you can search for all the right packages with, 'apt-cache search openjdk'
[20:14] <knobydobs> CoJaBo: go to duinsoft.nl/packages.php?t=en
[20:14] <Ca11um> Hey guys.
[20:14] <ratcheer> mikeS11: Should he get 6 or 7?
[20:14] <Ca11um> I just installed NIS on a new Ubuntu Server, but then when I got to the stage of restarting the NIS service, it says....
[20:14] <CoJaBo> I'd prefer the Sun version, as its (probably) most compatible with what Windows users will get
[20:14] <Ca11um> NIS: Unrecognized service
[20:14] <mikeS11> ratcheer: CoJaBo: Depends...
[20:14] <Ca11um> Or something to that effect
[20:14] <CoJaBo> knobydobs: Thanks, trying that now...
[20:15] <ratcheer> CoJaBo: That is true. And some people say some web sites won't work right with open Java.
[20:15] <ssta> openjdk7 is extremely good compatibilitywise.  Oracle are going to make it the reference implementation I believe
[20:15] <mikeS11> CoJaBo: Sombody did setup something so that you can install/update the oracle java through apt. I have used it, it works well. But i can't remember who... I'll look.
[20:15] <CoJaBo> mikeS11: That looks like that that .nl site provides
[20:15] <ssta> See: https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/moving_to_openjdk_as_the
[20:17] <ssta> mikeS11: webupd8 ppaq IIRC
[20:17] <ssta> s/ppaq/ppa/
[20:17] <CoJaBo> ssta: Hm, so it should be easier I guess when thats actually made official :P
[20:17] <ssta> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[20:17] <knobydobs> If I restart, is the log kept after the restart?
[20:18] <ssta> CoJaBo: I think it is official...not sure though
[20:18] <CoJaBo> knobydobs: Hm, does that install the plugin too?
[20:18] <geek4ever> anyone here using the gnome shell?
[20:18] <reisio> geek4ever: undoubtedly
[20:18] <ssta> oops, you want: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html sorry
[20:18] <ratcheer> geek4ever: I use it with 11.10
[20:19] <mikeS11> ssta: I think that might be the one. I was just reading the same article
[20:19] <geek4ever> what do you think about it
[20:19] <knobydobs> CoJaBo: no - just jre
[20:19] <geek4ever> i mean compared to unity
[20:19] <ratcheer> I like it fine.
[20:19] <xangua> !ot | geek4ever
[20:20] <ssta> geek4ever: I use gnome-fallback, I prefer it to unity (obviously, otherwise I'd be using unity).  This channel isn't really the right place to canvas opinions though (try #ubuntu-offtopic)
[20:20] <CoJaBo> knobydobs: How do I install the plugin too?
[20:20] <tuxgeek> geek4ver, do you have any specific questions?
[20:21] <backbox> knulla
[20:21] <geek4ever> ok, thanks a lot!
[20:21] <knobydobs> CoJaBo: I have the plugin but I cant remember how...
[20:22] <CoJaBo> What is Unity like, anyway? I absolutely hate Gnome, and most people I know who like Gnome hate Unity lol
[20:22] <geek4ever> tuxgeek, just that...thanks guys!
[20:22] <xangua> CoJaBo: knobydobs if you install ubuntu-restricted-extras it will install openjdk plugin and other stuff like adobe flash, ms fonts, audio/video codecs; a lot easier
[20:23] <backbox> kuken här
[20:23] <albech> where is the resolver configured in 12.04? I see that /etc/resolv.conf is only pointing to localhost. I am having some problems resolving when i connect to my VPN
[20:23] <knobydobs> xangua: That helps so much - you are a lifesaver
[20:23] <RumRum> stoppa den i byxan istället backbox
[20:24] <ssta> albech: appaerntly someone decided that using apt-cacher as the default resolver was a good idea
[20:24] <ssta> oops
[20:24] <CoJaBo> xangua: I'm trying to get the Sun Java plugin tho
[20:24] <ssta> dnsmasq even
[20:24] <albech> ssta, bah :(
[20:24] <ssta> albech: dnsmasq
[20:25] <knobydobs> xangua: btw - how
[20:25] <ratcheer> albech: There is a package named resolvconf, but I don't know a lot about using it.
[20:25] <xangua> knobydobs: how what¿
[20:25]  * xangua doesn't read minds 
[20:25] <knobydobs> xangua: how do i install it
[20:25] <xangua> knobydobs: install What¿
[20:25]  * xangua Still doesn't read minds
[20:26] <albech> seems rather strange to change an old well proven setup like resolv.conf
[20:26] <knobydobs> xangua: how do i install ubuntu-restricted-areas
[20:26] <albech> without checking that it is compatible with other packages
[20:26] <xangua> knobydobs: sudo apt-get install .....
[20:27] <knobydobs> xangua: I did a typo - nevermind
[20:27] <ssta> albech: there was some justification for it, but....
[20:27] <mikeS11> albech: In 12.04 they started using a resolvconf daemon which monitors changes to network configuration and makes /etc/resolv.conf entries automatically
[20:27] <ssta> albech: see: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-p-dns-resolving
[20:27] <albech> mikeS11, apparently it isnt monitoring my VPN tunnel correctly ;)
[20:28] <albech> ssta, thanks.. will look at that
[20:28] <knobydobs> I have logmein-hamachi installed - how do i use it
[20:28] <AceFace> How would i configure my secondary NIC to use dhcp?
[20:28] <ssta> albech: dnsmasq is actually a really useful tool for stuff like VPNs or LANs.  I'm not completely convinved the default configuration in precise is as good as it could be, but the tool itself is actually a decent one
[20:29] <usr13> AceFace: Same way you'd configure the first one.
[20:29] <ssta> still not convinced it should be the default resolver though
[20:29] <albech> I am having my own DNS running, so I really dont care too much for dnsmasq and caching
[20:29] <AceFace> i used the setup wizard for the first NIC
[20:29] <usr13> AceFace: Should be set to dhcp by default
[20:29] <mikeS11> albech: I'm sorry, I don't have experiance configuring it with vpn tunnels. In the case of a static configuration on an interface, you can add 'dns-nameservers' entries into your /etc/network/interfaces file.
[20:29] <AceFace> im sorry, im on ubuntu server 12.04
[20:31] <usr13> AceFace: Look at /etc/network/interfaces
[20:31] <usr13> AceFace:  at the eth1 stanza
[20:32] <AceFace> ok
[20:32] <Vooloo> how do I sort in "top", for example only show mysqld
[20:34] <ssta> Vooloo: assuming it's running as the mysql user (which is default), try pressing "u", then typing "mysql"
[20:34] <ufrgs> Hello folks!
[20:34] <Vooloo> ssta: so you cant filter on process
[20:35] <AceFace> http://img.ctrlv.in/4fca78ee56cad.jpg
[20:35] <AceFace> this is my configuration
[20:35] <m45> ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿hay alguna forma de traducir al español????????????
[20:35] <ufrgs> I used ^Z to stop a program at terminal, now I wonder if someone could help me to resume it please?
[20:35] <ssta> Vooloo: as far as I know, no
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> !es
[20:35] <ssta> ufrgs: fg
[20:35] <AceFace> http://img.ctrlv.in/4fca79108d575.jpg
[20:35] <AceFace> i added everything in red
[20:35] <ufrgs> ssta, thank you!
[20:36] <m45> cracias  por la atencion de responderme
[20:36] <m45> hay alguno que se hable en español?????????????
[20:36] <AceFace> usr13: does my configuration look alright?
[20:36] <Darael> !es | m45
[20:37] <m45> ok
[20:37] <xangua> !es | m45
[20:37] <m45> darael soy de españa
[20:39] <usr13> AceFace: Not if you wanted it set to DHCP
[20:39] <AceFace> ah yes, thank you
[20:39] <AceFace> change statis to dhcp
[20:39] <AceFace> static*
[20:39] <AceFace> do i need to cycle the nic? make it down, then make it up?
[20:42] <furan> hey, can someone tell me where on ubuntu I can change X to not start with -nolisten?
[20:42] <furan> nm found it
[20:42] <CT1> Is there a program (gui or cl) that shows every mouse button press?
[20:42] <usr13> AceFace: See:  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> CT1  you mean record?
[20:43] <AceFace> thank you usr13!
[20:44] <CT1> MonkeyDust: Not essential. Just a display of clicks when they occur and which button it was
[20:44] <albech> is there a way I can remove that resolver daemon crap and fall back to pre 12.04 resolving or will it break just about any network package?
[20:45] <mnmextreme> ..
[20:46] <mnmextreme> wats wrong in this code? http://pastebin.com/bVuNHAW1
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> CT1  there's easystroke, i'm testing what it does
[20:46] <ratcheer> albech: I have read threads of IT sysadmins discussing that. I believe they were not successful.
[20:47] <mnmextreme> can anyone answer?
[20:47] <skiphuffman> Good afternoon.  Can anyone recommend a resource for the 'Remmina' vnc client?
[20:47] <kish> are there any search engines i can install locally that will index remote sites for me? and are such things available in the repository?
[20:47] <abelVesa> my ubuntu 12.04 hangs when running /scripts/init-bottom
[20:48] <CT1> MonkeyDust: That's exactly why I want to see my clicks. The middle click sometimes works and not others. I want to check if easystroke is being "slow" or if my mouse is "funked"
[20:48] <abelVesa> can anyone help ,e
[20:48] <albech> ratcheer, i dont see the benefit of installing a caching daemon in an enterprise environment where it is expected that a capable dns server is running on the lan already
[20:48] <Android84> FGLRX is bugging me - I can't get it to let me use ubuntu 3D on 12.04
[20:48] <ratcheer> albech: I agree with you, I am just telling you what I saw.
[20:48] <albech> ratcheer, i know ;)
[20:50] <skiphuffman> I know this is a busy chat, but anyone know where to get "remmina" assistance?
[20:50] <guntbert> skiphuffman: just ask your question, if someone can help he/she will
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> skiphuffman  better ask and wait
[20:50] <albech> skiphuffman, which kind of assistance? why dont you just ask the question and see ? ;)
[20:51] <abelVesa> hey , nobody knows what's the solution to this problem?
[20:51] <skiphuffman> Ok.  I am trying to remote control one Ubuntu 12.04 system from another.  The screen on the client never seems to refresh.
[20:51] <guntbert> poor guy - all jumping on you
[20:52] <albech> skiphuffman, only when you first connect?
[20:52] <skiphuffman> Control actions are taking place, I can see the effects on the server, but the client just has a static image
[20:52] <albech> skiphuffman, i had similar problems and every time i scaled the window it would update :(
[20:52] <skiphuffman> @albrect not sure what you mean.
[20:52] <ubuntu_64bit> hi
[20:53] <skiphuffman> not sure I want to resize the window every time I click the mouse.
[20:53] <skiphuffman> Seems less than convenient.
[20:53] <albech> skiphuffman, yes, that was my conclusion as well
[20:53] <albech> skiphuffman, never had that problem with earlier releases
[20:53] <Slow> partitioning question
[20:53] <Slow> I'm going to be dual booting
[20:54] <Slow> and would like to install ubuntu on a drive that already has two partitions on it
[20:54] <tuxgeek> Slow: ok?
[20:54] <Slow> 1) windows 7 partition 2) data (with lots of data) but with room
[20:54] <skiphuffman> @albrect  I found a solution  for older versions where you turn off an option in gconf-editor, but that option is not available for 12.04
[20:54] <Slow> when I'm installing ubuntu
[20:55] <Naphatul> how do i install gnome3? i installed gnome-shell but the default gnome is just gnome2, it might be because the machine is a vmware machine but it didn't give me an error that it was going into fallback mode
[20:55] <Slow> i'd like to create a new partition on 2)
[20:55] <Slow> so that would give me 1) windows 2) data 3) ubuntu
[20:55] <Slow> when installing from the ubuntu menus, and creating a new partition
[20:55] <skiphuffman> @Slow. Build a g-parted live USB stick. Boot from that and resize the partitions
[20:56] <skiphuffman> Then install Ubuntu.
[20:56] <Slow> i am using a USB install
[20:56] <Slow> i'm worried that resizing will cause data loss
[20:56] <CoJaBo> Slow: Back up first
[20:56] <skiphuffman> @slow.  Well. you will want to back up first.
[20:56] <skiphuffman> But you shouldn't lose anything.  g-parted is pretty gentle
[20:57] <Slow> we're talking about 300gigs of data
[20:57] <skiphuffman> just snaggs free space
[20:57] <skiphuffman> @slow.  Yeah, definitly want to back that up.
[20:57] <skiphuffman> Good thing media is so cheap these days.
[20:57] <AnAnt> Hello, I got an old laptop, and it is becoming slow, is there a utility to help me find out the cause of this slowness (ie. wether it is memory or HDD or whatever) ?
[20:58] <skiphuffman> Ok, but back to my problem.  Should I use a different VNC client?  I am not married to remmina
[20:58] <Slow> damnit
[20:58] <CoJaBo> Slow: It's generally unlikely to fail, however I *HAVE* had it happen once for uncertain reasons.
[20:59] <Slow> i'm just annoyed that the wubi installation keeps failing (after it works just fine for awhile)
[20:59] <CoJaBo> I've had loads of issues with Wubi lol..
[20:59] <Guest81760> !ciao
[20:59] <CoJaBo> If the machine crashes, it almost always currupts the root filesystem :/
[21:00] <reisio> Slow: probably has more to do with your Windows installation than wubi itself
[21:00] <CT1> To answer my previous question "sudo cat /dev/input/mouse0" proves my mouse middle click is faulty and not easystroke
[21:00] <reisio> Slow: why not do a normal install
[21:00] <Slow> see, that's the thing, it works just fine until I boot in to windows
[21:00] <ssta> prefer to do a proper install if you can...wubi is a hack
[21:00] <Guest81760> !list
[21:00] <Slow> reisio: you said that earlier... and I'm not sure I understand what you mean
[21:00] <Slow> I need to dual boot
[21:01] <reisio> Slow: you can install Ubuntu to a dedicated partition or two instead of via Wubi (to a file)
[21:01] <Slow> that's what i'm trying to do now
[21:01] <reisio> word
[21:01] <skiphuffman> @slow  My recommendation will give you a dual boot.  I did just that with this very laptop last week.
[21:01] <Slow> except that now I need to back up a metric-s-tonne of media
[21:01] <guntbert> skiphuffman: ah you are talking about vnc, I was already wondering, try it with vncviewer from the CLI
[21:01] <reisio> Slow: :D
[21:01] <skiphuffman> Actually this is a triple boot.  Win 7, Ubuntu, and Fedora
[21:02] <reisio> Slow: or you could go buy another disk
[21:02] <guntbert> skiphuffman: and no need to put @ in front :)
[21:02] <skiphuffman> guntbert:  Really?
[21:02] <skiphuffman> I get in the habit of that elsewhere.
[21:02] <reisio> Slow: you'll need another eventually anyways
[21:02] <guntbert> skiphuffman: :)
[21:02] <skiphuffman> Never can keep track of the differnt standards
[21:02] <Slow> and windows file transfers tend to crash when you're not their staring at them
[21:02] <reisio> Slow: you using Vista? :p
[21:02] <Slow> windows 7
[21:02] <reisio> fun
[21:03] <Slow> i like it better than vista
[21:03] <CoJaBo> lol
[21:03] <CoJaBo> of course
[21:03] <guntbert> !ot | Slow
[21:03] <ubuntu_64bit> xp vienna
[21:03] <CoJaBo> Vista sucks; Win7 sucks less :P
[21:03] <reisio> Slow: not saying much, though :p
[21:03] <ubuntu_64bit> limfao
[21:03] <Slow> agreed
[21:04] <CoJaBo> Hm- Anyone know why swapping a mobo would make the right mouse button stop working?
[21:04] <Slow> same model?
[21:04] <reisio> CoJaBo: broken mobo
[21:04] <CoJaBo> Completely different mobo and CPU, everything else the same
[21:04] <skiphuffman> guntbert: installing now
[21:05] <CoJaBo> Absolutely everything else works except right-click ...
[21:05] <Slow> maybe something disabled it... but that's weird
[21:05] <dontknow> i encrypted home directory but it doesn't ask me password when entering it!?
[21:05] <dontknow> is it expected behavior?
[21:05] <RyoRonin> CoJaBo: try using the live cd and see if it is the same issue
[21:06] <guntbert> dontknow: if I remember correctly, yes. the encryption password is decrypted with your login password
[21:07] <dontknow> guntbert, it i asked me something about enter phasspare after reboot and i give it different password, what was that about?
[21:07] <CoJaBo> I'm guessing its some kind of settings SNAFU, but I have no idea where to look for mouse config heh... I had a similar issue with network config, the new mobo doesn't have (working) onboard NIC, so it changed from etho to eth1 causing mass havoc -_-'
[21:07] <knobydobs> when I try to use ubuntu (instead of ubuntu 2D), I get a screen with a sidebar that will not react to anything and a blank grey bar across the top - any ideas why this would be?
[21:08] <guntbert> dontknow: please type more carefully, I didn't understand your last statement
[21:09] <CoJaBo> Actually, it was plugged into a PS/2 KVM switch, its now plugged in directly via USB- wonder if thats why..
[21:09] <andybrine> Evening everyone
[21:10] <guntbert> hi andybrine,  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:10] <andybrine> does anyone know how to install the gnome shell bolt extension?
[21:10] <andybrine> yeah :)
[21:11] <andybrine> would like to install the bolt plugin and having difficulties
[21:11] <andybrine> not sure how to install it
[21:12] <dontknow> guntbert, sorry. i entered this command "sudo ecryptfs-migrate-home –u “username”" to encrypt home directory. It asked me "enter passphrase" i entered something different then my user pass and it didn't accept it. Then i entered my user pass it accepted and started encryption. After that i rebooted the computer a pop up appear says something like "enter passphrase" and i entered different password than my user account it accepted. is it ok now?
[21:13] <OerHeks> andybrine, this maybe helpfull,  bolt extention http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/05/unity-dash-like-gnome-shell-extension-sees-release
[21:14] <andybrine> thanks OerHeks
[21:14] <andybrine> this is where i went an clicked on install and it has not done anything
[21:14] <OerHeks> andybrine, first you need gnome-shell
[21:14] <OerHeks> !nounity
[21:15] <knobydobs> Is my problem to do with graphics drivers?
[21:15] <andybrine> OerHeks i am using gnome shell unity at the moment
[21:15] <guntbert> dontknow: I am not sure about the exact process, but it looks like you are all set, 2 warnings though: make sure to have a (written/printed) record of that passphrase, 2) in the future pay more attention to what is said on  the screen, the info is usually valuable :-)
[21:15] <Eagleman> Is there a way to make a difference between LANand WAN while behind a DMZ Host?
[21:15] <Eagleman> With iptables
[21:16] <OerHeks> andybrine, maybe you need to logout & login back again? same for unity lenses
[21:16] <usr13> You'll need to elaborate a bit more before someone can give you any specific advise.
[21:16] <dontknow> guntbert, yes, pop up was talking about something "print it" something like that lol what is it about?
[21:17] <andybrine> OerHeks I have rebooted, it does not seem to be installing at all
[21:17] <delac> would anyone happend to know if there is plugin or something for gnome-shell that removes the "All" from Applications menu (leaving only Accessories, Games, etc...)?
[21:17] <andybrine> not sure why
[21:18] <skiphuffman> whoops, lost connection
[21:18] <guntbert> dontknow: without that passphrase you will not be able to get access to you data at all if you are not logged in to the current system as that special user!
[21:19] <skiphuffman> gruntbert:  I don't know that the gvncviewer was any better.  I did not seem to have any mouse access.
[21:19] <skiphuffman> installing krdc now.
[21:19] <dontknow> guntbert, i will search more about that, thanks
[21:20] <usr13> Eagleman: If you have two different networks you could use two different interfaces to connect to them.  If you have two different interfaces connected to two different networks, it is quite easy to keep them segregated
[21:21] <Chaosadnd> Hi all. Trying to install vmware tools. Why would sudo ./vmware-install.pl -d not work?
[21:21] <guntbert> dontknow: just for a test: log in to you system as another user (or as guest) and see what you will find under /home/dontknow
[21:21] <Eagleman> usr13 so i should buy another network card and set the ip to 192.168.1.11 ( the other is 192.168.1.10 ) and set the dmz host to .11 and use .10 for internal?
[21:22] <guntbert> Chaosadnd: is the scriot executable? what error message do you get?
[21:22] <Chaosadnd> gunthbert: getting -bash: vmware-install.ol: command not found
[21:22] <italianfoot_> Where can I find a good guide on how to install a triple boot of Windows, Mac and Ubuntu?
[21:23] <Chaosadnd> Chaosad9834
[21:24] <dontknow> guntbert, i thought it wasn't possible to enter someone's user directory whether it is encrypted or not. So how can i sure if my user's home directory encrypted?
[21:24] <dontknow> guntbert, *using another account*
[21:24] <Ca11um> So the only thing I need to operate an 'Active Directory' on Ubuntu is NIS?
[21:25] <Ca11um> Nothing else like LDAP is required?
[21:25] <italianfoot_> Where can I find a good guide on how to install a triple boot of Windows, Mac and Ubuntu?
[21:25] <schnuffle> Ca11um: What means operate? Running a AD-Server or authenticate against a AD-Server?
[21:26] <guntbert> dontknow: the default settings allow another user to enter your home dir  - see    ls -ld /home/*    (x allows to enter)
[21:26] <schnuffle> Ca11um: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryHowto
[21:26] <knobydobs> can anyone help me?
[21:26] <Ca11um> schnuffle: A Ubuntu Server storing the accounts, whilst the Ubuntu Clients load them from the server
[21:26] <justdave> what's the command line to launch the system settings app in precise?
[21:27] <ImTheDude> what is akonaditray?
[21:27] <justdave> (I'm logged in via ssh from another box and have an x server available)
[21:27] <schnuffle> Ca11um: Ah so no AD at all just the oportunity to store all acounts on a linux server
[21:27] <Ca11um> Sure.
[21:27] <quidnunc> My external harddrive is not automounting. No errors in dmesg. What gives?
[21:27] <jvcleave> hey all - trying to install kubuntu 12.04 on a Macbook pro 8,3  - i can get to a command prompt with networking via recovery mode - running apt-get update now
[21:28] <jvcleave> I can't get startx to work - any clue as to where to go from here?
[21:28] <schnuffle> Ca11um: I would go for LDAP, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication
[21:28] <dontknow> guntbert, so are you saying i can enter my current user directory after creating new one. and it is not possible if it is encrypted ?
[21:28] <skiphuffman> gruntberg:  Ok, KRDC also controls without refreshing the screen.
[21:29] <s1zero> anyone have idea how to get the realtek driver to work in 12.04?
[21:29] <dontknow> guntbert, *after creating new user account
[21:29] <knobydobs> jvcleave: you need to go to #kubuntu
[21:29] <quidnunc> jvcleave: Something has gone terribly wrong. You shouldn't have to run startx manually
[21:29] <guntbert> dontknow: no, you will be able to enter still, but you will see only a folder with a name like "private" (or so)
[21:29] <schnuffle> s1zero: which realtek chip?
[21:30] <dontknow> guntbert, ok i will try now
[21:30] <guntbert> !tab | skiphuffman
[21:30] <ratcheer> s1zero: What specific Realtek card?
[21:30] <s1zero> schnuffle: crap sorry one sec.
[21:30] <skiphuffman> ah thanks guntbert
[21:31] <s1zero> it help if i boot the machine before asking....forgot the numbers
[21:31] <dagb> any davmail gurus around? I have certificate issues.
[21:31] <guntbert> skiphuffman: it might be a setting in the server?
[21:32] <s1zero> schnuffle: r8168
[21:32] <skiphuffman> huh.  I wonder.
[21:32] <skiphuffman> let me look about
[21:32] <Eagleman> usr13 so i should buy another network card and set the ip to 192.168.1.11 ( the other is 192.168.1.10 ) and set the dmz host to .11 and use .10 for internal?
[21:33] <ratcheer> s1zero: I have some instructions on ubuntuforums. I'll be back in a minute with a link.
[21:33] <schnuffle> s1zero: the driver can be downloaded from realtek the file name is: r8168-8.029.00.tar.bz2
[21:33] <s1zero> schnuffle, ratcheer: its a rtl8111/8168B
[21:34] <dontknow> guntbert, i entered with another user and tried to enter /home/"myusername" it says "you  don't have permission to enter this directory", do you think encryption is working?
[21:34] <s1zero> schnuffle: i think i tried that one..got no luck
[21:34] <ratcheer> s1zero: See post #2 in this thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1992200
[21:34] <schnuffle> ratcheer: just wanted to post the same link :)
[21:35] <ratcheer> s1zero: It is up to version 08-031, now.
[21:35] <guntbert> dontknow: please !pastebin the output of    ls -ld /home/*
[21:35] <guntbert> !pastebin | dontknow
[21:36] <akmur> guys a question: when you download a file in chrome or firefox, and you click open in folder, does it open the folder AND highlights the downloaded file? in my case it just opens the folder but won't highlight the file
[21:36] <akmur> is it a bug or a feature? :D
[21:36] <ratcheer> schnuffle: Cool. You are familiar with my work. ;)
[21:36] <skiphuffman> guntbert, No obvious settings.  it looks like the one machine should  be able to control the other.
[21:37] <schnuffle> ratcheer: :) Not really but my google foo directed me to it
[21:37] <s1zero> ratcheer, schnuffle: thanks... ill try this out.
[21:37] <s1zero> swear i did this
[21:37] <guntbert> dontknow: please have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome
[21:38] <ratcheer> s1zero: It can be tricky.
[21:38] <dontknow> guntbert, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1020350/
[21:38] <guntbert> skiphuffman: sorry, I use vnc very rarely, I prefer ssh
[21:39] <skiphuffman> guntbert,  me too. but I have a particular use that I want/need vnc.
[21:39] <keith__> help:
[21:39] <keith__> oops
[21:39] <dontknow> guntbert, i posted ls -ld /home/*
[21:39] <skiphuffman> guntbert, Maybe I should back up a step and see if someone has a suggetion for a better way to go about it.
[21:39] <keith__> quit:
[21:39] <keith__> Quit:
[21:40] <schnuffle> keith__: any problem?
[21:40] <tuxgeek> keith__, to quit irc /quit
[21:41] <skiphuffman> Here is my need:  I want to plug my more powerful laptop with HDMI into our television to play a videos.  This works well, I can play videos with sound and all through the hdmi, but I have to sit right next to the Television so that I can reach the pause and play controls.
[21:41] <skiphuffman> So I thought I could just vnc control my big laptop, with my wifes little netbook.  Use it as a remote control.
[21:41] <ratcheer> skiphuffman: Longer HDMI cable...
[21:42] <guntbert> dontknow: I saw, (obfuscating the usernames is not necessary :-)) - it looks like the encryption process also changed the permissions on the home directory, you could always test with another user, migrate that to encrypted too and compare...
[21:42] <tuxgeek> ratcheer: +1
[21:42] <guntbert> skiphuffman: ok, what is the actual goal?
[21:42] <skiphuffman> ratcheer, Yeah, several problems with that.  1) I don't have a longer cable.  2) My dogs would either trip over the cord, or chew on it.
[21:43] <tuxgeek> lol
[21:43] <ratcheer> skiphuffman: Sorry, I was kind of kidding. But, that is what my son does.
[21:43] <skiphuffman> Actual goal?  Hook the laptop up to the TV  OVER THERE, and control it from OVER HEAR
[21:43] <skiphuffman> OVER HERE.  I mean
[21:43] <skiphuffman> ratcheer,  Yeah, your next suggestion will be a long stick, right?
[21:44] <ratcheer> skiphuffman: No, I'm sorry, really.
[21:44] <skiphuffman> ratcheer, I understand the humor.
[21:45] <skiphuffman> And it is a seriously first world problem I am trying to solve.  Two laptops and a big tv.
[21:45] <guntbert> skiphuffman: no idea about that scenario - I'll leave you to the more knowledgeable members :-)
[21:46] <skiphuffman> Cool.  If I could control the video player from terminal all would be good
[21:47] <Gushings> Hey, I have a script that is supposed to start autossh, how can I tell if it is running?
[21:47] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: What about just remoting into your TV connected laptop?
[21:47] <skiphuffman> schnuffle,  Well, that is exactly where we started.
[21:47] <knobydobs> there are mobile apps that do this
[21:47] <Gushings> I mean, it's not working, but I want to know if it is even running on the machine.
[21:47] <ratcheer> schnuffle: I think that's what he is trying to do.
[21:47] <schnuffle> Gushings: ps aux | grep <nameof your script>
[21:48] <skiphuffman> I can't get one Ubuntu Laptop to remote control the other.
[21:48] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: then x11vnc can help you
[21:48] <Gushings> Nice, it is running.
[21:48] <Gushings> I don't see any of the ports it is using in Netstat.
[21:48] <skiphuffman> schnuffle, a different server?  Sure, I could try that.
[21:48] <Gushings> Could that mean my server is not accepting connections on that port?
[21:49] <ratcheer> skiphuffman: When I used to work as an Oracle DBA, my sysadmin had things set up so I could use ssh and run X windows so that the apps were running on the server, but the windows were on my PC. Man, I wish I remembered how to do that.
[21:49] <mikeS11> skiphuffman: wireless keyboard/mouse.
[21:49] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: another solution is as you said control it through ssh. I think vlc should be able to do it
[21:50] <dontknow> guntbert, should i change permission to test it with another account?
[21:50] <Random832> is there a way to make xmms2 integrate with the menu?
[21:50] <dontknow> guntbert, come on dude, give me certain solution :D
[21:50] <Random832> like how rhythmbox and gmusicbrowser do
[21:52] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45565
[21:52] <guntbert> dontknow: as you wish: "your encryption is good, be happy" :-), but my idea was (if you seriously want to test): create another account, encrypt that home dir, log in as your normal user and try with sudo to acees the other accounts data
[21:52] <guntbert> *account's
[21:53] <akem> hey, is there any easy config dialog for drawing tablets? actually mine is recognised but it moves only when i press the pen, which generate a mouse click at the same time.
[21:53] <skiphuffman> schnuffle, That does not seem to make any difference.   The image on the client is still static
[21:53] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: hm, what vncviewer are you using?
[21:53] <skiphuffman> that=x11vncserver
[21:54] <skiphuffman> schnuffle, I have tried three.  The default one, Remmina.  vnc-viewer from command line, and krdc
[21:54] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: that is the part on the server, I mean the viewer part vino or something like that. I mostly use tightvnc or tigervnc
[21:55] <s1zero> ratcheer, schnuffle: ok that worked..but i have to staticly enter ip address..but no biggie as long as a i have giga network im good.
[21:55] <skiphuffman> schnuffle, we got out of sequence, see my next message.
[21:55] <dontknow> guntbert, i have username2 acoount as you know, you mean i should alsoo encrypt username2 home dir and after that what lol i am confused?
[21:56] <skiphuffman> schnuffle, I have tried three.  The default one, Remmina.  vnc-viewer from command line, and krdc
[21:56] <guntbert> knobydobs: its ok to repeat your question after quarter of an hour or so, new people might see it
[21:56] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: i see. Hard to see your problem. HAve you any logs that could be used to track down the problem?
[21:56] <schnuffle> s1zero: where do you enter the IP? in /etc/network/interfeaces?
[21:56] <skiphuffman> hard to log "nothing happened and nothing changed"
[21:56] <s1zero> skiphuffman: network-manager.. simple
[21:57] <skiphuffman> kind of annoying since I use VNC all the time at the office
[21:57] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: then I have another option. Try FreeNX
[21:57] <skiphuffman> s1zero, what will that do?
[21:57] <Kornkage> hi, quick small question. I have win7 intalled on my laptop. is it safe to install ubuntu using ubuntu installer ?
[21:57] <Kornkage> from windows
[21:57] <s1zero> skiphuffman: gui for inputing ip, net, gw, dns
[21:58] <Kornkage> and i can use ubuntu and win7 both, with no problems after ?
[21:58] <xangua> !dualboot | Kornkage
[21:58] <skiphuffman> Kornkage,  You might want to use a g-parted live usb first to break off some space.
[21:58] <Kornkage> ok
[21:58] <Jameson> Kornkage with wubi ?
[21:58] <Kornkage> igot lots of space
[21:58] <schnuffle> Kornkage: Do you mean a wubi install. I don't recommend it
[21:58] <ssta> Kornkage: yes and yes.  But make sure you have backups of your important data anyway, just to be on the safe side
[21:58] <Kornkage> i dont know whats wubi
[21:58] <Kornkage> random unuimportant stuff is installed, noting to safeguard
[21:58] <knobydobs> is there any reason why I get a broken sidebar and blank grey bar across the top of my screen when I try and use the non-2d version of ubuntu?
[21:58] <prixon`> hello
[21:58] <guntbert> dontknow: my idea was: yes you go ahead and encrypt the homedir of user2 too, then you log out again, and log in as user, that one has sudo rights, and so you can use sudo cd /home/user2 to neter that, afterwards type    sudo ls to see what is there
[21:59] <shazzr> I can not get hotot to summon with <ALT>C. Might Unity be the cause?
[21:59] <xangua> knobydobs: tried to reset unity settings and compiz settings¿
[21:59] <justdave> how do I enable vino-server (or equivalent) in Precise?  I have one box I upgraded from an ealier version that already had it on and it still works, but have a new one with a fresh install, and I can't find it to turn it on.
[21:59] <schnuffle> Kornkage: Wubi installs Linux in your Windows system like a normal app
[21:59] <prixon`> how can I fix nautilus to show the real size of files. in MiB and not MB
[21:59] <skiphuffman> schnuffle, I don't see FreeNX either in apt-get or ubuntu software center
[22:00] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: let me check
[22:00] <prixon`> ?
[22:00] <dontknow> guntbert, ok i will try
[22:00] <dsnyders> Does ubuntu have a tool for fixing USB flash drives.  Mine is stuck as read-only.
[22:00] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/posts/freenx-precise-available-in-precise
[22:01] <xangua> shazzr alt+c is just to post/tweet, not for 'summoning'
[22:01] <ratcheer> dsnyders: You can try palimpsest, but no guarantee that it will work.
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> dsnyders, you can change the permission from a properties of it in gksudo nautilus
[22:01] <skiphuffman> schnuffle, that sounds like we are just guessing.
[22:02] <guntbert> skiphuffman: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[22:02] <skiphuffman> Or is that something you have experience with?
[22:02] <justdave> ah, found it.  "vino-preferences"
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> dsnyders, or just format it.
[22:02] <shazzr> xangua: c is for creating new post. <ALT>C is for summoning the client.
[22:02] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: that is an alternative as I can't tell you what is going wrong as I don't have any hint. Before you get mad, try something else I I really can recommend NX. Esspecially for slow connections
[22:03] <skiphuffman> No, I'm not mad.
[22:03] <skiphuffman> Just I have already installed a couple of servers and about five clients with no  real effect
[22:03] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: I use it on a daily basis like VNC as well
[22:03] <dsnyders> wilee-nilee, I can't format it.  It errors as read only.
[22:05] <skiphuffman> Ok, giving it a try
[22:05] <shazzr> xangua: ...and it works on my other laptop. Same distro. Same hotot.
[22:06] <ratcheer> skiphuffman: I am sure I used to do it with just ssh at work. The local client machine was the X server, and the database server host was the X client. I entered "xhost +" and there were maybe a couple of other settings. Then, I ssh'ed to the database server and ran a GUI app and its windows were displayed on my desktop machine (the X server).
[22:07] <schnuffle> ratcheer: that will export his Display and all the apps he opens will open on the controlling laptop. So no video on the TV
[22:07] <skiphuffman> ratcheer, Yeah, you are right, there is some way to remote operate an x-windows application. I should probably just recall how to do that.
[22:07] <guntbert> ratcheer: with ssh there is absolutely no need for xhost +!  that is rather dangerous!
[22:08] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: easy use the ssh -X option which will set the Display
[22:08] <ratcheer> guntbert: Yes, I heard that, but that is how the sysadmin told me to do it.
[22:08] <chris__> is it possible to hide a running program?
[22:08] <guntbert> ratcheer: ok but please don't recommend it here
[22:08] <Kornkage> Installing wubi, i didnt repartition anything
[22:08] <reisio> chris__: hide from?
[22:09] <schnuffle> Kornkage:  http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Wubi
[22:09] <chris__> reisio, like being able to have a program run in the background but not visible
[22:09] <ratcheer> Sorry, it is the only way I knew how.
[22:10] <pehden> nmap pehden.dyndns-ip.com msg me results please
[22:10] <chris__> reisio, so I guess Id be hiding it from the desktop and then I could enter a command to make it visible
[22:10] <schnuffle> ratcheer: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ssh.html
[22:10] <guntbert> ratcheer: no worries - look at what schnuffle said for a better way
[22:10] <crankharder> why the fuck would a lucid -> precise upgrade remove vi? w.t.f.
[22:10] <ratcheer> Thanks, I am looking...
[22:11] <dontknow> guntbert, instead of doing what you say i entered as user2 and did this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1020385/ is it ok?
[22:11] <schnuffle> ratcheer: Of course in /etc/ssh/sshd_config X11Forwarding needs to be enabled
[22:12] <Kornkage> installing ubuntu.. at least its easier than builiding gnu radio on windows
[22:12] <reisio> crankharder: vi or vim?
[22:12] <ubukou> hey guys.. somebody around here that has played with home automation? i have been searching google but all i found was expensive kits and other expensive components.. i was thinking that i could use a old wifi router to run the server on, and then just by the other components separately.. using androind powered devices to control every thing..
[22:12] <reisio> chris__: a graphical program?
[22:12] <skiphuffman> Quick one:  what is the command line for the ubuntu movie player?
[22:12] <ubukou> any ideas geniuses? :)
[22:12] <chris__> reisio, yes
[22:12] <reisio> chris__: which?
[22:13] <reisio> skiphuffman: dpkg -L packagename | grep -i bin might say
[22:13] <reisio> skiphuffman: wouldn't surprise me if it hasn't one, though
[22:13] <hilo> Hello
[22:13] <reisio> skiphuffman: mplayer is a good commandline player
[22:13] <chris__> reisio, virtualbox
[22:13] <skiphuffman> It has one.  I just want the command line to start it.
[22:13] <reisio> chris__: oh you started a VM and don't want the extra window hanging around?
[22:13] <guntbert> dontknow: all set :-)   but DON'T forget to record that passphrase, you see even root cannot access the data without it
[22:13] <reisio> skiphuffman: dpkg -L packagename | grep -i bin might say
[22:14] <reisio> hilo: hi
[22:14] <schnuffle> ubukou: what do you want to do? there's  1-wire which is often used for homemade automation. Another nice dea is using a arduino
[22:14] <reisio> ubukou: it's not difficult
[22:14] <reisio> schnuffle: what? :p
[22:14] <hilo> I am trying to connect to a wireless network from my Ubuntu Server CLI. I tried to follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic but it does not work for me.
[22:14] <reisio> presumably he already has a computer
[22:14] <chris__> reisio, I was wanting a hyporvisor and Ive set up kvm. I found out kvm doesnt support hardware acceleration so im not able to use windows7 aero or gnome-shell. I added virtualbox to startup but I want to make it hidden and access it through a vnc client
[22:14] <hilo> Can someone help?
[22:14] <schnuffle> what arduino or 1-wire
[22:15] <dontknow> guntbert, ok thanks, now i need to know how to record passphrase
[22:15] <reisio> chris__: you should have a VBoxHeadless command
[22:15] <skiphuffman> It's "totem" if anyone is wondering
[22:15] <ubukou> schnuffle, reisio i was thinking.. do you really need anything else than a router? i dont know how the switches work but they are connected via wifi to the server right ?
[22:15] <schnuffle> chris__: you mean your CPU doesn't support it?
[22:16] <guntbert> dontknow: I am certain you will find that info here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome
[22:16] <chris__> reisio, I havent setup virtualbox. My cpu supports it but kvm does not have guest additions
[22:16] <reisio> ubukou: you don't even need a router if you don't want to use wireless devices
[22:16] <ubukou> schnuffle, reisio arduine seems to be used with a router and a RF controler.. is the RF really needed?
[22:16] <reisio> ubukou: it's kind of fun controlling your home electronics from your mobile phone, though
[22:16] <reisio> ubukou: bluetooth is another option
[22:16] <dontknow> guntbert, thanks for everything, have a nice day
[22:16] <skiphuffman> But, of course that doesn't help me because that runs the movie player's screen on the client machine
[22:16] <reisio> ubukou: arduinos are for embedded tinkerers
[22:17] <chris__> reisio, Ive used virtualbox before but I keep destroying my os's so Im using virtualmachines from now on
[22:17] <ubukou> reisio, and bluetooth is the part that anduino come in right ?
[22:17] <guntbert> dontknow: you're welcome :-) and happy ubuntuing :)
[22:17] <reisio> ubukou: don't know, don't care; I would not suggest an arduino for this use
[22:17] <hilo> reisio: hello! Any chance you can assist me with my wlan on an ubuntu server install?
[22:17] <deepspeed> That wubi thing reminds me of colinux or AndLinux
[22:17] <skiphuffman> I need to run the movie player on the LAPTOP, but control it from the NETBOOK.
[22:17] <ubukou> reisio, ok good enough, costs money after all..
[22:17] <deepspeed> I had AndLinux.  Didn't like it.
[22:17] <reisio> ubukou: if you want to interact with your home electronics wirelessly, you have to have some form of wireless control, be it ordinary wireless, bluetooth, infra red, etc.
[22:18] <reisio> ubukou: one computer is all it takes, and a desktop computer can easily pull double duty for this
[22:18] <ubukou> reisio, do light switches use wifi or BT?
[22:18] <reisio> ubukou: not exactly demanding activities
[22:18] <schnuffle> ubukou: I use it to control some IO, temperature .... but it's not necessary at all
[22:18] <itsrachelfish> Is there any way to restrict how much bandwidth is available to a specific USB device?
[22:18] <chris__> is there a way to mount an img file so I can pull files off of it?
[22:18] <reisio> ubukou: I'm sure you can get them using whatever, but most obviously just use hard wires
[22:18] <reisio> itsrachelfish: don't cross post
[22:18] <reisio> chris__: mount -o loop image /mnt/point
[22:18] <ubukou> reisio, hard wires are messy when dealing with 20 devices.. :S
[22:19] <reisio> ubukou: they take up more space than air, it's true
[22:19] <knobydobs> how easy is it to do what ubukou wants to do?
[22:19] <chris__> reisio, its not an iso its an img, would that still work?
[22:19] <reisio> they also work better and don't send electronic signals through your brain
[22:19] <reisio> knobydobs: real easy
[22:19] <reisio> chris__: depends on what it's an image of
[22:20] <chris__> reisio, its my virtual hard drive that kvm uses(my virtual machine)
[22:20] <skiphuffman> schnuffle,  I need to run the movie player on the LAPTOP, but control it from the NETBOOK.
[22:20] <chris__> reisio, so i guess it would be an operating system
[22:21] <ubukou> reisio, ok lets start with the easy ones.. you need some kind of "server" to do all these.. and then you need the software for the chosen os to control all this. obviously android is the one i should be using.
[22:21] <chris__> skiphuffman, you can do that with mplayer and ssh
[22:21] <skiphuffman> ssh lets me run the movie player from the laptop on the netbook, but the display is also on the netbook
[22:21] <spaceneedle> I don't want to use ext4.  I want to try something different--hopefully faster.  What should I use?
[22:21] <ubukou> reisio, is there a protocol that this projects use ?
[22:21] <reisio> chris__: #kvm would know best, but you could check out http://krnjevic.com/wp/?p=33
[22:21] <chris__> ive heard that xfs was a great filesystem
[22:21] <schnuffle> skiphuffman:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/117324/terminal-command-to-control-the-standard-music-video-playerplay-stop-next
[22:22] <reisio> chris__: did you now
[22:22] <ubukou> reisio, i mean X10 seems to be popular and z wave as well..
[22:22] <silverghost> hey people kubuntu installer crahses after 20 percent any help
[22:23] <chris__> reisio, did I know what?
[22:23] <reisio> chris__: now I said
[22:23] <reisio> ubukou: no... obviously GNU/Linux is the OS you should use
[22:23] <chris__> reisio, youve successfully lost me
[22:24] <reisio> ubukou: and you don't need any special protocols, just ordinary network stuff, optionally with wireless
[22:24] <reisio> chris__: I said 'now', not 'know'
[22:24] <silverghost> yooo people kubuntu crashes after 20 percent ny help
[22:24] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: http://www.videolan.org/doc/play-howto/en/ch04.html
[22:24] <reisio> silverghost: try the alternate install image
[22:24] <chris__> reisio, im trying to determine if I want virtualbox or virtualbox-ose
[22:24] <silverghost> hey am new i need graphical solution is this a known bug
[22:24] <ubukou> reisio, ok cool. i mean i would like the server to be stand alone. no computer needed. just use the router, or an old router with firmware hack .
[22:25] <reisio> chris__: there is no ose anymore
[22:25] <yggdrasil> how can I tell if my wireless card supports n ?
[22:25] <reisio> chris__: it used to be they had the free version (OSE) and the non-free version as separate offerings
[22:25] <chris__> reisio, sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose says
[22:25] <reisio> chris__: now it's just free by default, and the non-free stuff is an extension to the free
[22:25] <ubukou> reisio, i only mention android cause its convinient to use it as a remote.. its always on you and always powered on.
[22:25] <proka> Guys, is there something that can go wrong while installing new kernel using this http://www.howopensource.com/2011/08/how-to-install-linux-kernel-3-0-1-in-ubuntu-11-04-10-10-and-10-04/ method, or Synaptic?
[22:25] <schnuffle> chris__: the extensions bring USB 2.0 support in
[22:26] <reisio> chris__: well you could be on an old version, or maybe Ubuntu didn't change the name
[22:26] <chris__> reisio, so I just want the virtualbox then. right?
[22:26]  * reisio shrugs
[22:26] <skiphuffman> schnuffle, Thanks,  Just tried mplayer, and when I run it through ssh it runs LOCALLY on the client.  Not remotely on the server.  Looking at your VLC link now
[22:26]  * chris__ jumps
[22:26] <reisio> ubukou: yeah... but a remote isn't a server...
[22:26] <ubukou> reisio, where would i get hardware compatible with regular routers?
[22:26] <skiphuffman> schnuffle, I really appreciate your help.
[22:26] <reisio> ubukou: the only reason Android is convenient as a remote is because your mobile device is convenient as a remote, and presumably came with Android already installed (convenient)
[22:26] <ubukou> reisio, i know :P :)
[22:26] <xangua> proka: it's up to you, I find always better to use the packages the Official Ubuntu Repository provides
[22:26] <chris__> do DISPLAY=:0 mplayer -fs /path/to/video
[22:26] <reisio> ubukou: hardware for what, light switches?
[22:26] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: at least giving some hints, when I can solve your original problem
[22:27] <ubukou> reisio, yes.
[22:27] <reisio> ubukou: I'd ask #hardware about that
[22:27] <proka> xangua: So, that would be the Synaptic method?
[22:27] <silverghost> alternate install is tough
[22:27] <crankharder> could someone pastebin what their default 12.04 /etc/apt/sources.list is?  think the upgrade mangled mine up
[22:27] <BJD10> Has anyone writen any shell scripts using whiptail?
[22:27] <reisio> silverghost: it's the same...
[22:27] <silverghost> hey no graphics iin alternate it confuses me i am a noob
[22:28] <reisio> BJD10: what's whiptail
[22:28] <hilo> Can anyone help me get connected to a WiFi network from the command line of Ubuntu Server?
[22:28] <reisio> silverghost: so don't use it
[22:28]  * chris__ shocked to find that putting virtualbox on takes up 746 mb
[22:28] <silverghost> is this a known bug
[22:28] <BJD10> reisio: its is a utility that makes pretty menus on the termnal
[22:28] <reisio> hilo: wicd has a curses frontend, IIRC
[22:28] <BJD10> hilo: why would you have a 'server' using wifi?
[22:28] <reisio> BJD10: link?
[22:29] <reisio> BJD10: ...so it doesn't have to have a wire running to it
[22:29] <silverghost> is kubuntu in trouble canonical stopped funding em
[22:29] <reisio> why else does a person use wifi
[22:29] <chris__> perhaps he doesnt have access to ethernet...no need to pay for wifi when your neighbor does
[22:29] <reisio> silverghost: I'm not sure they ever _funded_ them
[22:29] <silverghost> yaa they funded em
[22:29] <hilo> BJD18: My internet went down and I am borrowing from my neighbor (with permission) until Wednesday when TimeWarner finally comes to fix my crap.
[22:29] <CokeAddict> I am trying to "burn" a windows iso to a usb stick with unetbootin, but unetbootin can not see my usb drive.... any help?
[22:29] <reisio> silverghost: how?
[22:29] <skiphuffman> schnuffle, VLC really looks like more of a video processing tool, not a video player.
[22:29] <BJD10> reisio: link to what? whiptail? its installed on the sytem .. man whiptail
[22:30] <hilo> reisio: what is wicd
[22:30] <silverghost> kubuntu was funded by canonical
[22:30] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: vlc is the best player ever
[22:30] <chris__> what is lilo?
[22:30] <reisio> CokeAddict: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-167060
[22:30] <silverghost> vlc is bad use sm player
[22:30] <schnuffle> skiphuffman: but it can do much more
[22:30] <crankharder> could someone pastebin what their default 12.04 /etc/apt/sources.list is? I think the upgrade mangled mine.
[22:30] <prixon`> hello again
[22:30] <silverghost> eloooo
[22:30] <ubukou> reisio, thanks
[22:30] <reisio> BJD10: https://fedorahosted.org/newt/ :p
[22:30] <ubukou> reisio, i ll look there for this ..
[22:30] <BJD10> hilo: you may want to consider something a little more creative  :) try ddwrt on a router.. then just bridge the router to the other network and not have to change any computers as all
[22:30] <reisio> hilo: a wireless configurator
[22:31] <skiphuffman> Ah!  I just found the HTTP interface.  Let me check that out
[22:31] <schnuffle> crankharder: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[22:31] <bwayne> \quit
[22:31] <chris__> according to google. lilo is a air matress
[22:31] <Kornkage> what makes you doubt it ?
[22:32] <BJD10> reisio: whiptail is the wrapper around newt... it is also what every text dialog box you see in Ubuntu is made with (look at the ps when you get one)
[22:32] <schnuffle> chris__: lilo is a boot manager like grub
[22:32] <skiphuffman> Lilo is "LInux LOader"  the predecessor to grub
[22:32] <silverghost> which is better kubuntu or opensuse
[22:32] <reisio> BJD10: yes I know that now, no thanks you to :p
[22:32] <chris__> schlaftier, do I need lilo if I have grub?
[22:32] <schnuffle> silverghost: if you use KDE then go for Suse, much better integration and it just works
[22:32] <reisio> silverghost: all distros are the same deep down
[22:32] <reisio> silverghost: openSUSE is the unpaid beta testing distro of SUSE enterprise
[22:32] <schnuffle> chris__: no
[22:32] <hilo> BJD10: I have dd-wrt but I am sad to say I can't remember the pw. I have it written on an index card in a box at my parents house 30 miles away; no one is there to check it. I don't want to hard reset and lose all my settings which I idiotically didn't back up :(
[22:33] <reisio> Kubuntu is the KDE version of Ubuntu which is based on Debian
[22:33] <prixon`> How can I configure nautilus to show MiB instead of MB? (I'm using ubuntu 12.04)
[22:33] <silverghost> i liked suse but novell makes me mad :p
[22:33] <chris__> schlaftier, can I have lilo and grub both installed?
[22:33] <crankharder> schnuffle: ty
[22:34] <silverghost> suse is cool
[22:34] <BJD10> hilo: well your probably not going to get the server on line then.. you will most likly be required to download and install additional tools ... no internet means no tools.
[22:34] <reisio> prixon`: what makes you think it's showing decimal MB?
[22:34] <silverghost> for new comers ubuntu is best i think
[22:34] <schnuffle> silverghost: I'm right now on Suse 12.1 and with KDE it's just usable. Ubuntu and KE is a big mess, but that's just my experience
[22:34] <BJD10> besides... you would have to whipe out most of the ddwrt configs to bridge it anyway.
[22:34] <silverghost> kool
[22:34] <silverghost> kde is the best imho
[22:34] <prixon`> reisio, I download files from the internet and get different size...
[22:35] <reisio> prixon`: hrmm?
[22:35] <hilo> I am using my laptop to forward between the server and the internet temporarily.
[22:35] <silverghost> kde interface is cool kde apps r stronger kde just rocks now kde is stable also :D
[22:35] <hilo> BJD10: I am using my laptop to forward between the server and the internet temporarily.
[22:35] <reisio> prixon`: how many bytes does it say the file is? And how many MB does it say?
[22:35] <TheShrubber> !vi
[22:35] <schnuffle> crankharder: my pleasure
[22:35] <silverghost> dolphin>nautilus amarok best music player k3b epic on and on :)
[22:36] <prixon`> for example: 135.0 MB (134,977,810 bytes
[22:36] <BJD10> hilo: then install wicd-curses
[22:36] <schnuffle> silverghost: now we know you prefer KDE
[22:36] <BJD10> or read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[22:36] <silverghost> ;p
[22:36] <silverghost> yaa ma in love wid kde
[22:37] <prixon`> reisio, or another example: 9.7 MB (9,662,464 bytes)
[22:37] <reisio> prixon`: interesting
[22:37] <reisio> prixon`: this is GNOME 3?
[22:37] <nikitis> Anyone here have an ATI HD7000 Series Graphics card on Ubuntu?
[22:37] <chris__> does anyone else have alot of entries in grub for the same os?
[22:37] <silverghost> lol 7000 cards r buggy
[22:37] <nikitis> are they with catalyst?
[22:37] <prixon`> yes, I'm using ubuntu 12.04, and sadly this is gnome3 with nautilus 3
[22:37] <schnuffle> chris__: with each kernel update you will egt a new entry
[22:37] <silverghost> ati cards r very bad for linu
[22:37] <prixon`> reisio, sorry, nautilus 3.4
[22:37] <silverghost> 3.4.1 :D
[22:38] <chris__> schlaftier, can I remove the kernals then? I only need to boot from one
[22:38] <Android75> are the hd6000 as buggy?
[22:38] <silverghost> nope
[22:38] <silverghost> less buggy
[22:38] <prixon`> reisio, and also gnome 3.4.1
[22:38] <reisio> prixon`: I'd ask #gnome (or #gnome on irc.gnome.org)
[22:38] <nikitis> i really want a 7000 card due to it's performance, but i'm seing lack of compatibility for it
[22:38] <silverghost> gnome is simple but it hides too many things
[22:38] <reisio> its*
[22:38] <silverghost> kde is for tigers like me :D
[22:38] <Kornkage> silverghost nvidia is the best for linux ?
[22:39] <prixon`> reisio, I asked there "how I can change...." and got an answer "no". are you using ubuntu 12.04?
[22:39] <reisio> nikitis: 7000 what?
[22:39] <silverghost> yaa nvidia is less buggy afaik
[22:39] <Kornkage> okay
[22:39] <reisio> prixon`: eh?
[22:39] <Android75> will unity run on a gd6670
[22:39] <silverghost> yaa
[22:39] <reisio> unity will probably run on any dedicated graphics
[22:39] <silverghost> it will run cool in 6670
[22:39] <Android75> *gd
[22:39] <prixon`> reisio, are you using ubuntu 12.04? with gnome 3.4?
[22:39] <nikitis> 7950
[22:39] <reisio> prixon`: nope
[22:40] <nikitis> 7950 seems exponentially faster than nvidia's latest cards
[22:40] <prixon`> reisio, what distro/version are you using?
[22:40] <silverghost> unity's good thing is hud thats it nothing more i like
[22:40] <nikitis> according to bitcoin mining card charts
[22:40] <Android75> I can't get into ubuntu 3d - I think it may be graphics driver related
[22:40] <silverghost> kde apps r amazing
[22:40] <silverghost> gnome apps omg
[22:41] <bazhang> !ot | silverghost
[22:41] <silverghost> :p
[22:41] <silverghost> is installer crash a bug
[22:41] <silverghost> u did not tell me
[22:41] <reisio> prixon`: something else
[22:42] <nikitis> So do the latest catalyst 12.4 or 12.6 beta work okay for ATI 7950 cards?
[22:42] <reisio> silverghost: obviously, anything that isn't expected is a bug
[22:42] <silverghost> kk thanks cheers :D
[22:43] <silverghost> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=8288
[22:43] <prixon`> reisio, can you recommend a good file manager?
[22:43] <silverghost> check my desktop :D
[22:43] <reisio> prixon`: nautilus is a good file manager
[22:43] <nikitis> Nobody has ati 7950?
[22:43] <bazhang> silverghost, wrong place to paste that
[22:44] <prixon`> reisio, I find it difficult using nautilus when I see different file size than the rest of the world
[22:44] <reisio> prixon`: that is undoubtedly configurable
[22:45] <tuxgeek> prixon: konqueror is cool too
[22:45] <prixon`> reisio, I sure hope so. because I didn't find a satisfying answer in the forums. they say GNOME changed this and that's it
[22:45] <tuxgeek> browser and file manager
[22:46] <Kornkage> ok ubuntu installedfrom wubi
[22:46] <tuxgeek> kk
[22:46] <Kornkage> now how to browse windows folders
[22:46] <prixon`> I don't like the KDE look and feel.. that's why I don't try konqueror
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> Kornkage, in media I think
[22:46] <tuxgeek> check the /host
[22:46] <reisio> prixon`: that's possible, but even if that's the case you'd only have to recompile nautilus
[22:46] <Kornkage> host , thanks :)
[22:47] <reisio> prixon`: if you just want to replace it, though, try Thunar
[22:47] <tuxgeek> kornkage: np
[22:47] <reisio> prixon`: you might want to keep using nautilus for your desktop, though
[22:48] <prixon`> reisio, I'm using ubuntu for 2 years, but I fear I have no clue how to recompile things
[22:48] <ImTheDude> i cant get my cam to work in cheese
[22:48] <reisio> prixon`: well there's plenty of info out there if you're interested
[22:48] <reisio> prixon`: I'd definitely make sure you can't just toggle a pref first, though
[22:48] <ImTheDude> is there a form in ubuntu that configures a ligitech cams
[22:49] <schnuffle1> prixon`:  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665005 and  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1871421&page=2
[22:49] <reisio> ImTheDude: most probably work out of the box
[22:50] <ImTheDude> this cam is older and everyone has problems with configureing it in ubuntu 10.4 it is a logitech though
[22:51] <reisio> ImTheDude: 10.04 is old
[22:51] <reisio> ImTheDude: what does lsusb say about it?
[22:52] <ImTheDude> nothing
[22:52] <prixon`> schnuffle1, If I understand correctly, those two sites say there's no way of changing it.. I read the ubuntuforums one earlier today
[22:52] <ImTheDude> where lsusb
[22:53] <reisio> ImTheDude: in a terminal, lsusb
[22:53] <schnuffle1> prixon`:  that's my interpretation as well. IF you want the file size in bytes you can use df on the console
[22:54] <ImTheDude> reiso how do i show you my screen
[22:54] <prixon`> I don't understand why gnome chooses this crazy path
[22:54] <reisio> ImTheDude: just paste the line referring to the camera
[22:55] <schnuffle1> prixon`:  apparently your're not alone
[22:55] <ImTheDude> reisio: im using a vbox
[22:55] <reisio> ImTheDude: so?
[22:56] <ImTheDude> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 80ee:0021
[22:57] <tuxgeek> prixon: open a terminal du -h path_to_file
[22:57] <skiphuffman> schnuffle1,  I think vlc is going to do the trick for me.  Once I figure out how to get the http interface to work
[22:57] <BLOODBANKER> Hi, I have found that old webcams aren't worth getting to work. You can get a really great Logitech webcam on ebay for around 22 dollars that is HD and works wonderfully the C310 is great.
[22:57] <schnuffle1> skiphuffman: yeah, vlc is like imagemagick, powerfull but easy to handle
[22:57] <reisio> you can get a new one that does 720p for $30
[22:58] <ImTheDude> resisio
[22:58] <reisio> ImTheDude: how do you know that line refers to the cam?
[22:58] <schnuffle1> not easy
[22:58] <ImTheDude> i dont
[22:58] <reisio> ImTheDude: so your host is... Windows?
[22:59] <ImTheDude> ya
[22:59] <schnuffle1> ImTheDude:  How about using pastebinit to paste your lsusb: lsusb | pastebinit and the just post the link
[22:59] <reisio> well it's in a guest
[22:59] <reisio> he'd have to make the hardware apparent to the guest first
[22:59] <reisio> schnuffle1: what make/model is it?
[22:59] <ImTheDude> schnuffle1 i forgot how to do that
[22:59] <schnuffle1> ?
[23:00] <reisio> ImTheDude: what make/model is it?
[23:00] <ImTheDude> im out
[23:00] <prixon`> schnuffle1, what FM are you using?
[23:00] <chris__> how much data can be removed in 5 seconds?
[23:00] <reisio> chris__: rots
[23:00]  * reisio rolls eyes @ imthedude
[23:00] <bazhang> chris__, how is that an ubuntu issue
[23:00] <schnuffle1> FM?
[23:01] <nikitis> Did anyone answer my question towards linux support for ATI Radeon HD7000 series?
[23:01] <schnuffle1> prixon`:  mostly my file manager is the console.
[23:01] <chris__> bazhang, I just did rm -R * in the wrong folder
[23:01] <tuxgeek> FM: file manager
[23:01] <schnuffle1> prixon`: otherwise I use what is available
[23:02] <MrJrSr> Hello, does anyone here have a Wireless Card Intel Centrino 1030 ?
[23:02] <schnuffle1> prixon`:  with my habitude of working the console is the fastest file manager
[23:02] <bazhang> MrJrSr, whats the chipset
[23:03] <MrJrSr> i am in some trouble trying to put it to work on Precise
[23:03] <Android75> I have a Celeron - will this stop unity?
[23:03] <silverghost> yaaa it will lol
[23:03] <bazhang> silverghost, thats not helpful
[23:03] <tuxgeek> schnuffle1: +1
[23:04] <MrJrSr> bazhang: Intel(R) Centrino Wireless-N card
[23:04] <bazhang> Android75, whats the video card
[23:04] <schnuffle1> Android75: It's more a question of your grahics
[23:04] <MrJrSr> 1030
[23:04] <Android75> gd6670
[23:04] <bazhang> MrJrSr, lspci in terminal to paste.ubuntu.com
[23:04] <silverghost> celeron will own unity ;-)
[23:04] <prixon`> schnuffle1, even for finding songs and browsing your media?
[23:04] <bazhang> silverghost, stop with the random commentary, this is NOT the chat channel
[23:05] <Android75> hd6670
[23:05] <MrJrSr> bazhang: i got it to work, but it get a very slow speed
[23:05] <Robiq> helo everyone
[23:05] <bazhang> MrJrSr, please pastebin the output of that command
[23:05] <MrJrSr> bazhang: it just don't get more than 50KB/s
[23:05] <schnuffle1> prixon`:  yep, but if I want more comfort I don't care if it's Dolphin, Nautilus PC.....
[23:05] <Android75> so I can theoretically run unity
[23:05] <MrJrSr> bazhang:  wait a sec
[23:05] <Robiq> Someone can help me VPN on Ubunt u ?
[23:06] <silverghost> don't worry mate unity will run fine in celeron 6670 :)
[23:06] <schnuffle1> Robiq: what's your problem?
[23:06] <tuxgeek> Robiq: SSH tunnel
[23:06] <bazhang> !who | silverghost
[23:06] <silverghost> kkk :D
[23:06] <Robiq> I have some VPS server and i wont configure VPN fo iOS devaices
[23:07] <Android75> I can't get unity to run - the whole pc freezes
[23:07] <schnuffle1> Robiq: Already settled for  a type of VPN?
[23:08] <schnuffle1> Robiq: My prefered VPN solution is OpenVPN, but apparently it needs a jailbreak on IOS
[23:08] <Robiq> some ipsec L2TP or PPTP
[23:09] <MrJrSr> i am back
[23:09] <harushimo> does anyone about how to setup a cloud in ubuntu
[23:09] <harushimo> I want to do that
[23:09] <tuxgeek> ubuntu one
[23:10] <schnuffle1> harushimo: check owncloud
[23:10] <harushimo> I want to use openstack
[23:10] <harushimo> I'm using that
[23:10] <harushimo> owncloud
[23:10] <harushimo> ?
[23:10] <schnuffle1> Robiq: found http://www.ketchup-mayo-senf.de/blog/-it-howto-vpn-server-in-linux-for-iphone-4-iphone-4s-and-siriproxy
[23:11] <schnuffle1> harushimo:  owncloud.org
[23:11] <Kornkage> where is the $path folder
[23:11] <harushimo> I just found it
[23:11] <Kornkage> sorry for the noob question
[23:11] <harushimo> what is better owncloud or openstack?
[23:11] <MrJrSr> Here is the Pastebin. http://pastebin.ca/2157631
[23:11] <harushimo> does it depending on the purpose
[23:11] <Kornkage> i want to install gnuradio
[23:11] <schnuffle1> harushimo: openstack is more of a cloud framework where owncloud is a tool you can use straight away
[23:12] <tuxgeek> kornkage: /etc/profile
[23:12] <Kornkage> thx
[23:12] <harushimo> ok
[23:12] <Robiq> @schnuffle1 thx
[23:13] <harushimo> I'm trying to learn the framework too
[23:13] <harushimo> that is why I'm experimenting with openstack
[23:13] <schnuffle1> Robiq: you're welcome
[23:13] <harushimo> which method is better? or preferred
[23:13] <harushimo> sorry for so many questions
[23:13] <schnuffle1> harushimo: none, depends on your needs
[23:13] <harushimo> I want to run a cloud but also learn about nodes too
[23:14] <harushimo> what is the best way to do that?
[23:14] <schnuffle1> harushimo: cloud is one of those new buzz words that mean all or nothing
[23:14] <harushimo> right
[23:14] <schnuffle1> harushimo: then go with openstack
[23:14] <MrJrSr> Guys, i got a problem with My Wifi Card, (Centrino Wireless-N 1030) and when i connect it is very very slow (no more than 50kB/s) while my internet goes over 500kB/s
[23:14] <harushimo> ok
[23:14] <harushimo> I'm using ubuntu server. I'm trying understand maas problem
[23:15] <harushimo> I don't know how to get it running
[23:15] <harushimo> I've looked at the documentation like 4 times
[23:15] <harushimo> I am running one virtual server
[23:15] <MrJrSr> i am using Ubuntu Precise AMD64
[23:15] <harushimo> do I need set up another two? in order to get maas working
[23:15] <harushimo> I'm using virtual box
[23:15] <MrJrSr> could you please help me?
[23:16] <aguitel> is anyway to install xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.4 in 12.04 for intel graphic ?
[23:17] <Jameson> MrJrSr, did you try this wifi with other device?
[23:18] <MrJrSr> Jameson: yes, in the same computer, on another OS
[23:18] <harushimo> !openstack
[23:18] <MrJrSr> Jameson: it works fine
[23:18] <Kornkage> tuxgeek i only have etc/profile.d and it cant write there
[23:19] <Jpgman> Hey
[23:19] <tuxgeek> kornkage: is that not a directory?
[23:19] <Robiq> ok so when i try to coonet from iphone to my vps with ubuntu i got this error: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No such file or directory
[23:20] <toph_> is ti possible in kubuntu 12.04 to turn windows like dolphin transparent or wire frame like the desktop folder widget on the desktop
[23:20] <Kornkage> it is a directory, but it doesnt allow me to put build.gnuradio script file there
[23:20] <Robiq> any ideas ?
[23:20] <Kornkage> build-gnuradio
[23:20] <MrJrSr> Jameson: it "works" on Precise AMD64 too, but it is very slow...
[23:20] <Jpgman> I need some help, I just upgraded to 12.04 LTS and my Google Talk doesn't work when using Empathy
[23:20] <schnuffle1> Robiq: The error is from iphone or linux server
[23:20] <sa7elak> how to use shutdown with time to power of the laptop completely i tried shutdown 05:00 -p but i get invalid option: -p
[23:20] <Robiq> lunux server
[23:21] <MrJrSr> Jameson:  in order to get it faster on the other OS i had to disable N-Mode
[23:21] <trism> harushimo: don't know if you saw this already, but there was a writeup a while back about maas and virtualbox on ubuntu planet a while ago: http://marcoceppi.com/2012/05/juju-maas-virtualbox/
[23:21] <tuxgeek> use the command line
[23:21] <MrJrSr> Jameson: but seems it don't work here
[23:22] <harushimo> I didn't
[23:22] <Jameson> MrJrSr, hmm... sounds wierd,
[23:22] <harushimo> let me take a look
[23:22] <harushimo> thanks
[23:22] <harushimo> I saw this on cloud.ubuntu.com
[23:22] <harushimo> same instructinos
[23:22] <harushimo> I mean instructions
[23:23] <MrJrSr> Jameson: maybe the wireless router don't works very well with n-mode
[23:23] <harushimo> trism: I'm a little confused about some stuff
[23:23] <trism> harushimo: I haven't tried it yet, so I am not help at the moment, I just remembered the link, sorry
[23:23] <harushimo> that's fine
[23:23] <Jpgman> Hey guys I need some help, I just upgraded to 12.04 LTS last night and now Google Talk doesn't work when using Empathy anymore
[23:23] <schnuffle1> Robiq:  sudo mknod /dev/ppp c 108 0
[23:23] <bazhang> !enter | harushimo
[23:23] <MrJrSr> Jameson: but since i have no admin account on the router i have no other choice than make it works that way
[23:24] <Kornkage> tuxgeek thank you, no need for more help :)
[23:25] <Robiq> sudo mknod /dev/ppp c108 0
[23:25] <Robiq> mknod: missing operand after `0'
[23:25] <Robiq> Try `mknod --help' for more information.
[23:25] <schnuffle1> Robiq:  there's a space between c and 108
[23:25] <tuxgeek> kornkage: is it all good?
[23:25] <Jameson> MrJrSr,  hmm.. maybe ...  did you try reinstal wifi driver ?
[23:26] <Robiq> ok i go, my mistake when i put mknof /dev/ppp c 108 0 i got nothing
[23:26] <MrJrSr> yes
[23:26] <MrJrSr> and the firmware
[23:26] <harushimo> thank you. I think I need to setup another virtual server
[23:26] <MrJrSr> and disabling n-mode
[23:26] <MrJrSr> and disabling bluetooth
[23:30] <c_smith> Hello, I have a Cannon Pixma MP495 that can only be used as a scanner, yet the driver that CUPS wants to install only allows it to be used as a printer, a function that does not work on this printer. is there something I can do about this?
[23:30] <MrJrSr> Jameson: did you have any clue?
[23:30] <Sontogo> hi, how do I edit preferences in the Gedit application?
[23:30] <Sontogo> I can't seem to find the 'edit' menu heading any where
[23:31] <Jameson> MrJrSr, no, all that i can tell you to do , you already tried
[23:31] <Sontogo> At the very top, there are the 'close', 'minimize' and 'maximize' icons, from left to right
[23:33] <Robiq> schnuffle1 any ideas ?
[23:33] <silverghost> Billy GAtes : i reccomend ubuntu lol kudos people :D
[23:33] <Sontogo> in the row below that, there is the 'Create new document' button, 'Open' button, 'Save' button, 'print' icon, and a few more buttons/icons, from left to right
[23:33] <Sontogo> I can't see any 'Edit' option
[23:33] <Sontogo> any pointers?
[23:34] <crw> ahoy.
[23:34] <schnuffle1> Robiq: ? couldn't you create the device with sudo mknod /dev/ppp c 108 0
[23:35] <`Korvin> I'm making a complete backup of my system for when I reinstall ubuntu
[23:35] <crw> anyone gotten dual or multi-display working in precise with nvidia-current?
[23:35] <`Korvin> should I boot into a livedisk to completely copy over everything, or can I do it with the ubuntu partition I'm copying
[23:35] <Robiq> when i try i got this: mknod: `/dev/ppp': File exists
[23:36] <`Korvin> crw, I use twin view
[23:36] <`Korvin> works well
[23:36] <crw> `Korvin, i'm a noob. does that mean mirrored displays?
[23:36] <schnuffle1> Robiq: fine so you created it, restart your pppd and retry to conect
[23:36] <`Korvin> no
[23:36] <Robiq> and now i got this error: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: Permission denied
[23:37] <schnuffle1> paste ls -l /dev/ppp
[23:37] <Kornkage> i am sintalling gnuradio, and is asking me, do i have SUDO priviledges? i am mega lunix noob
[23:37] <crw> `Korvin, right on, sounds like what i need. currently i've got one monitor working and the other is a gray screen and the display manager control panel applet doesn't see both monitors.
[23:37] <Robiq> crw-r--r-- 1 root root 108, 0 Jun  3 03:25 /dev/ppp
[23:37] <Kornkage> yes
[23:37] <Kornkage> thx
[23:37] <Kornkage> got it
[23:37] <Kornkage> :)
[23:37] <FloodBot1> Kornkage: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:38] <Kornkage> ok
[23:38] <GreekFreak> hi all
[23:38] <`Korvin> anyone have any input?
[23:38] <tuxgeek> kornkage: sudo
[23:39] <GreekFreak> I'm using a very old laptop, and I wanted to change the desktop environment. However I wanted to ask how does Ubuntu server compare? What desktop env does it use, and how heavy is it?
[23:39] <schnuffle1> Robiq: and you restarted pptpd?
[23:39] <Robiq> not yet
[23:40] <bazhang> GreekFreak, server has no desktop environment at all
[23:40] <spaceneedle> Can I safely disable Backup Monitor,Disk Notifications,Onboard, and Files?
[23:40] <GeekAdmin> GreekFreak:  Yea server is all textual. I recommend you try gnome classic or xfce  t
[23:40] <bazhang> GreekFreak, try lubuntu for super lightweight
[23:40] <bazhang> !lubuntu | GreekFreak
[23:41] <GeekAdmin> GreekFreak:  sudo apt-get install gnome-shell xubuntu-desktop
[23:41] <schnuffle1> Robiq: then do it and then retry
[23:41] <bazhang> GeekAdmin, if by classic you mean gnome-panel then thats the package to install not gnome-shell
[23:41] <bazhang> !notunity | GeekAdmin
[23:42] <Robiq> ok its don i was rebooted server and nothing change, the same error: pppd[1347]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: Permission denied
[23:42] <GreekFreak> bazhang, GeekAdmin, thanks guys, I'll give them a try then. At the moment I tried another lightweight distro I was recommended, but I'm having package dependency issues
[23:42] <NimoTh>  Hi, I have found a lot on how to re-enable hibernate on 12.04, but nothing works. For example, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1944752. In my case, I can even see the suspend item in the menu, but no hibernate option. No matter what I do. Any ideas are warmly welcome.
[23:43] <bazhang> GeekAdmin, xubuntu is not much lighter than straight up gnome
[23:43] <NimoTh> Ah, should mention that I am on Gnome
[23:43] <GeekAdmin> ubottu, wierd, I used gnome-shell .. and then I had an option to switch to gnome classic no effects
[23:43] <NimoTh> I have gnome-tweak-tool installed and activated the shell extension "Alternative Status Menu Extension"
[23:43] <GeekAdmin> lol
[23:43] <schnuffle1> Robiq: under which user runs pppd?
[23:43] <tuxgeek> NimoTh: is it wubi install?
[23:43] <GeekAdmin> bazhang: yea I like gnome way better than xubuntu..but nopt the new gnome..I'm all confused on the differences though
[23:43] <bazhang> GeekAdmin, then you installed gnome-panel at some point
[23:43] <Robiq> root
[23:44] <GeekAdmin> bazhang:  ah I probably did
[23:44] <NimoTh> tuxgeek: nope
[23:44] <Robiq> or how can i check this ?
[23:44] <bazhang> GeekAdmin, better not to offer advice until you are clear then.
[23:44] <Robiq> im loged as root so i think is root
[23:44] <schnuffle1> Robiq: ps aux | grep pppd
[23:44] <GeekAdmin> bazhang:  but wait, I've set up a ton of people with gnome...and all I typed was sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[23:45] <GeekAdmin> bazhang: and then they had an option for gnome classic
[23:45] <crw> `Korvin, ah, i think i remember why i dismissed twinview - it makes both physical monitors into one logical monitor so when you maximize a window it goes across both, yes?
[23:45] <GeekAdmin> are you sure bazhang, you have to run gnome-panel. I'm almost positive I didnt with others
[23:45] <`Korvin> no crw
[23:45] <`Korvin> it appears as one to display manager
[23:45] <crw> then i'm crazy :)
[23:45] <`Korvin> but it doesn't actually work that way
[23:45] <crw> oy
[23:45] <Robiq> root :)
[23:46] <crw> right, i'll google around a bit more and see if i can't find an xorg.conf that'll work that way
[23:46] <schnuffle1> Robiq: and the group
[23:50] <schnuffle1> Robiq:  a very unsecure way is to sudo chmod 666 /dev/ppp. but the correct way would be to sort out under which group pppd is running and then change the group owner of /dev/ppp
[23:51] <isbric> Hi, i have configured a serialport with stty
[23:51] <isbric> for complicated reasons i need to flush the "read buffer", is this posible?
[23:52] <jagginess> isbric, reboot
[23:53] <chsados> can onyone help link me to an easy tutorial on how to install postfix?
[23:53] <yeats> !postfix | chsados
[23:53] <jagginess> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[23:53] <chsados> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix isnt dummed down enough :(
[23:54] <jagginess> eh
[23:54] <isbric> chsados: sudo apt-get install postfix; vi /etc/postfix/main.cf; echo "done!"
[23:54] <chsados> ive got it installed
[23:54] <chsados> i just dont know what exactly i need to edit
[23:54] <jagginess> chsados, google.
[23:54] <chsados> yea i tryin
[23:54] <schnuffle1> chsados: edit to achieve which goal
[23:54] <chsados> to get it all working
[23:55] <chsados> what needs to be changed in the man.cf
[23:55] <chsados> main.cf
[23:55] <isbric> "i like to get bind working" xD
[23:55] <isbric> lal
[23:55] <schnuffle1> chsados: normally postix gets confiured during install and you choose the mode in which you want it to run
[23:56] <Jpgman> Hey guys I just upgraded to 12.04 LTS and Gtalk on Empathy isn't working, it was working fine before I upgraded, I tried reinstalling Empathy but it still doesn't work.
[23:56] <chsados> well right now i just need it to work so it will send out emails to get my sites registration to actually send out registration links
[23:56] <schnuffle1> chsados: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix to redo that and editing the main.cf/master.cf is only advised when you know what you are doing
[23:57] <chsados> schnuffle1 so youre saying just a clean install normally would get it working?
[23:57] <schnuffle1> chsados: do you have a smarthost where to send your email to?
[23:57] <schnuffle1> chsados: yes
[23:57] <chsados> i do not
[23:58] <schnuffle1> chsados: so you want your postfix to send the mails directly to the MX mail server
[23:58] <lukasrms> hi folks.
[23:58] <lukasrms> Anybody can recommend a calendar program thats integrate com google calendar, and not be heavly? (unlike thunderbird)
[23:59] <chsados> i guess so, ideally id like it to allow my test site which is located on the same server to send out email links to say my gmail account but if im willing to go barebones until site is fully operational
[23:59] <crw> here goes. brb. :)