[08:49] <tom_> Hello
[08:50] <tom_> can someone please take a look at this bug report:
[08:50] <tom_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfdesktop/+bug/1005087
[08:50] <tom_> xubuntu is *almost* perfect and I want it to be perfect :)
[09:00] <ochosi> tom_: yeah, this bug is known unfortunately
[09:00] <tom_> why not disable it by default until it's fixed?
[09:02] <ochosi> i think it's fixed in 4.10, i'm currently looking for the upstream bugreport
[09:02] <ochosi> (which means you can either test it by adding the xubuntu-dev ppa or wait for 12.10)
[09:04] <ochosi> tom_: i'll quickly add the relevant info to your bugreport and close it
[09:06] <ochosi> mr_pouit: have we cherry-picked and backported the fix for the right-click menu on xfdesktop yet? (bug #1005087)
[09:06] <tom_> thanks ochosi
[09:06] <ochosi> np
[09:06] <tom_> would it be difficult to push an update that disables the app menu in the desktop menu?
[09:08] <ochosi> i'd rather backport the fix
[09:09] <ochosi> you can disable it for yourself quite easily in the desktop settings > menus
[09:09] <tom_> ok thanks again  
[09:09] <ochosi> that said, it doesn't really happen when you don't show icons on your desktop
[09:09] <ochosi> so there are a few ways of potentially dealing with it
[09:10] <tom_> I know, but many new to xubuntu users don't know that, or that it's causes slowness
[09:10] <tom_> sorry about the grammar there
[09:10] <ochosi> np :)
[09:10] <ochosi> i'm neither a native speaker nor a language-fascist :)
[09:11] <tom_> so I thought: wouldn't it be best for everyone (noobs specificaly) to have it disabled by default
[09:11] <tom_> the experienced user can find the setting easily
[09:11] <tom_> but not the other way around
[09:12] <tom_> that's just my view
[09:14] <ochosi> the thing is that it's already too late for that
[09:14] <ochosi> 12.04 has been released
[09:14] <ochosi> and now pushing a "fix" that disables that menu would mean changing the settings of _all_ users, which would most likely annoy more experienced users
[09:15] <ochosi> (and it's definitely not an option)
[09:15] <tom_> I understand
[09:16] <tom_> thanks ochosi
[09:16] <tom_> have a nice day
[09:18] <ochosi> np, you too
[11:24] <knome> oops!
[11:24] <knome> i just realized that ~xubuntu-doc is a restricted team.
[11:46] <mr_pouit> ochosi: already included
[11:46] <ochosi> mr_pouit: ok, so probably it doesn't work
[11:47] <ochosi> (i thought that it was included already anyway)
[15:07] <pleia2> knome: since we encourage doc work upstream in xfce, do you know how they actually work to land in the shipped xubuntu-docs html files?
[15:32] <pleia2> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Announcement-from-Xubuntu-Users-4058113.S.120818219
[15:32] <pleia2> :)
[16:09] <knome> pleia2, great!
[16:09] <knome> pleia2, so you are now an admin of that group?
[16:09] <knome> pleia2, i'm not sure about all the doc stuff with xfce, we need to investigate that
[16:10] <knome> pleia2, also, we need to think if we want to use mallard or something to create the files from
[16:10] <knome> pleia2, but i'm asking people to join because actually rewriting the docs is the thing that is taking the most time/effort, and we can do that without knowing much
[16:11] <knome> pleia2, the xfce docs are not very healthy either, so we could probably cooperate with them
[16:11] <knome> pleia2, (i'd *love* if the xfce docs were in such good shape we could point users to that mainly!)
[16:13] <pleia2> knome: yep, I'm an admin now on linkedin
[16:13] <knome> good
[16:14] <knome> i'm wondering if that should be linked from footer, or from "press"
[16:14] <knome> or both
[16:14] <pleia2> probably along with G+ and Twitter
[16:15] <knome> done
[16:15] <knome> btw
[16:15] <knome> http://xubuntu.org/marketingresources/
[16:16] <knome> see the note
[16:16] <knome> same with http://xubuntu.org/press/
[16:16] <knome> like the style, or have ideas to improve?
[16:19] <knome> away for a while ->
[23:08] <knome> pleia2, you happen to be around?
[23:24] <pleia2> knome: just got home
[23:24] <pleia2> what's up?
[23:24] <knome> i'll pm