[00:33] <Barridus> po
[00:37] <rhin0> ran 12.04 but having to ditch it for now because x2x doesn't work from 12.04 to 10.04
[04:37] <user1> anyone here
[04:37] <rhin0> hi
[04:38] <user1> <~~ semi intoxicated and angry
[04:38] <user1> i'm trying to chang my gdm theme
[04:38] <user1> something i've done hundreds of times
[04:38] <user1> but for some reason the options have changed
[04:39] <user1> i'm running xubuntu 10.04
[04:39] <bazhang> !enter
[04:39] <bazhang> user1, thats impossible to read.
[04:39] <rhin0> gdm = "appearance"?
[04:40] <bazhang> the greeter screen? that you see for about 3 seconds?
[04:40] <user1> Sorry, first time using irc help... i created the catgirlanime GDM theme 6 years ago
[04:41] <user1> i've used it on every linux install since then but for somereason on xubuntu 10.04 i can not seem to find a way to install my theme
[04:41] <bazhang> why would you change the greeter screen hundreds of times in the first place
[04:42] <user1> gdm = gnome display manager
[04:42] <bazhang> I'm well aware
[04:42] <user1> hundreds of linux installs?
[04:42] <bazhang> so what's the issue
[04:43] <bazhang> sounds like a theme issue, to be honest. tons from gnome-look.org and the like just don't work
[04:44] <user1> there does not seem to be the usual option of setting up gdm from the gdm screen.  i've been unable to find the usual login setup options thru the system>login screen app
[04:44] <user1> No Tabs
[04:45] <user1> if you can point me in the right direction to change gdm setting i can figure the rest out... command line is fine
[04:46] <user1> google has been no help at all, even ubuntu-tweak doesn't have the right options.  my theme is a tar.bz2
[04:47] <user1> http://customize.org/ggdm/45549
[04:47] <user1> I simply have not ben able to find any optionm anywhere to change the gdm theme
[04:47] <holstein> did you add any other PPA's?
[04:48] <user1> what is a PPA?
[04:48] <holstein> this link suggests a ppa with another gui tool http://askubuntu.com/questions/36515/choosing-gdm-login-window-theme-via-gui-without-ubuntu-tweak
[04:48] <bazhang> !ppa > user1
[04:54] <user1> gdm2setup does not support themes atm
[04:54] <user1> per the gdm2setup dialog
[05:02] <user1> the second method calls an app that doesn';t seem to exist
[05:03] <user1> user1@Computer1:~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts$ sudo apt-get install gdmsetup
[05:03] <user1> Reading package lists... Done
[05:03] <user1> Building dependency tree
[05:03] <user1> Reading state information... Done
[05:03] <user1> E: Couldn't find package gdmsetup
[05:03] <user1> what am i missing
[05:03] <user1> has theme switching been removed from gdm?
[05:06] <rhin0> try ubuntu forums I mean - post a message now - go to sleep - wake up maybe there'll be an answer - file it under "desktop"
[05:06] <rhin0> I put my problem there tonight
[05:06] <user1> i'll deal with it tomorrow
[05:07] <rhin0> all i'm saying - leave the message now
[05:07] <rhin0> efficient
[05:07] <user1> there was a time in the linux community when those online at this time of night knew something
[05:07] <rhin0> www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:07] <rhin0> well its xubuntu - fewer users
[05:07] <rhin0> obscure problem really
[05:07] <user1> but to be honest, this may be only the 10th time in 20 years that I have asked for help
[05:08] <rhin0> well there you go
[05:08] <user1> i've become a slackware user in recent years because slackware just doesn't get in the way
[05:09] <user1> but i wanted to be lazy and not have to set everything up myself.  thought maybe this one time ubuntu would save me some trouble
[05:10] <user1> anyway, thanks for the attempt guys.  i'll deal with it tomorrow
[05:16] <onizu> hi
[05:21] <laite> !hi | onizu
[05:21] <onizu> :)
[05:22] <onizu> ok, have fun all
[07:58] <panda-kun> привет всем
[08:00] <xubuntu872> hi there
[08:00] <xubuntu872> does anyone know how to make hibernation work on xubuntu?
[08:04] <Sysi> http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation-in-12-04
[08:06] <xubuntu872> @sysi: thanks!
[08:07] <Sysi> xubuntu872: np
[08:14] <xubuntu872> it says "This utility may only be run by the root user."
[08:14] <xubuntu872> but i am the root user
[08:16] <Sysi> xubuntu872: actual root or user with sudo-rights?
[08:17] <xubuntu872> user set to admin
[08:18] <xubuntu872> how do i check in terminal which rights a user has?
[08:19] <Sysi> unless it's username "root" it's regular user or user with sudo
[08:19] <Sysi> I don't use hibernation but you may need to run pm-hibernate with sudo too
[08:32] <xubuntu872> tried sudo pm-hibernate, and it worked! now i will do the rest from the link u sent, many thanks! xubuntu/linux is awesome :))
[08:38] <recon69_lap> got an odd one, xScreenSaver has popped up twice asking for me to log in, this is weirding me out as it was never set to ask for a password and has only done it twice
[08:41] <recon69_lap> was set to random screen saver, might be it
[08:49] <xubuntu872> hibernation works now, but is very slow going into and starting back up...is there any way to make it faster?
[08:50] <Sysi> get ssd, or use suspend instead of hibernation
[08:51] <xubuntu872> i mean it takes a minute to go into and also a minute to get up again, i guess this is something w my system?
[08:52] <Sysi> hibernate usually isn't very fast (don't mix it with suspend), but of course there can be driver issues too
[08:53] <xubuntu872> w windows, ahem, it takes seconds, and because everything is usually so fast w xubuntu, i assume it is because of my system, and would be happy to adjust, if i only knew where/what?
[08:55] <Sysi> IIRC windows uses hybrid, it suspends so you can get up&down quickly and hibernates that you survive power loss too
[09:01] <xubuntu872> what is "IIRC windows"
[09:01] <laite> IIRC = If I recall correctly
[09:02] <xubuntu872> could not find anything in google or ubuntu sw ctr
[09:50] <xubuntu872> u must have had quite some fun when i naively went for iirc windows instead of "if i recall correctly" my bad ;)
[09:51] <xubuntu872> thanks for all ur help :)
[10:15] <pimperle> i tried to release-upgrade my desktop pc to precise (from oneiric) and now it says the upgrade failed and my system might be unusable.
[10:15] <pimperle> this is in german so i don't know the exact phrase though.
[10:16] <pimperle> i've looked at the logfiles in /var/log/dist-upgrade but so far i cannot tell what went wrong
[10:16] <pimperle> what should i do next?
[10:16] <knome> take backups, if you already didn't
[10:16] <pimperle> i'm afraid that rebooting / exiting my session will render the system unusable
[10:16] <pimperle> i did / regularly do
[10:16] <pimperle> but only of /home and /etc
[10:17] <pimperle> i did an upgrade to latest packages of oneiric before the release-upgrade
[10:17] <pimperle> so this should have been the "normal" upgrade use case
[10:17] <pimperle> :(
[10:18] <knome> yeah... but upgrades can always go wrong :/
[10:18] <pimperle> for me they usually do
[10:18] <pimperle> i really don't know why
[10:18] <knome> anyway, if you have backups, i'd say try to upgrade all the packages you can now and then try to boot
[10:18] <knome> sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade for example
[10:19] <knome> and maybe run sudo apt-get update first
[10:19] <pimperle> ok, i'll try that
[10:19] <knome> it might be it's just some configuration that failed
[10:19] <pimperle> just running apt-get dist-upgrade threw a couple of dependency errors on me
[10:19] <knome> apt-get should tell you if there is some bigger problems
[10:19] <knome> mmh. which servers are you using?
[10:19] <pimperle> de.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:19] <knome> you might want to change to the "main" servers
[10:20] <knome> they should have the most up-to-date packages
[10:20] <pimperle> have there been any out-of-sync issues lately?
[10:20] <knome> a few possible cases
[10:20] <pimperle> are they at archive.ubuntu.com?
[10:20] <knome> yes, that's it
[10:20] <pimperle> ok, i'll try with those
[10:20] <pimperle> thanks for helping me
[10:21] <knome> no problem
[10:21] <pimperle> a lot of version mismatches show up for libdevmapper and server-xorg-video-*
[10:22] <pimperle> apt-get -f dist-upgrade seems to want to continue. is that a safe command?
[10:24] <pimperle> the xmind package seems to have a broken description (i told them 3 years ago) thus breaking dpkg and dpkg-query
[10:26] <knome> hmh
[10:26] <knome> apt-get check?
[10:26] <pimperle> i fixed the files to a point where i was able to dpkg -r xmind
[10:27] <knome> so it's just that which is broken?
[10:27] <pimperle> they lack a . in an empty line in their description. i 've told them, they ignored it
[10:27] <pimperle> maybe. right now the upgrade continues
[10:27] <knome> have you filed a bug about it?
[10:27] <pimperle> i'll get breakfast while it's running
[10:28] <pimperle> is xmind an official package? I think it is packaged by xmind themselves and i'm not sure how i told them (bugreport, email).
[10:28] <knome> ah, right
[10:28] <knome> :)
[10:28] <pimperle> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/583476
[10:28] <knome> in that case, yeah, they should fix it theirself
[13:29] <pimperle> oh dear, i have the same issue i had last time upgrading to precise: the volume indicator in the notification area is missing.
[13:29] <pimperle> last time GridCube told me to remove and re-add the notification area which brought the indicator back.
[13:29] <pimperle> this time however it didn't help
[13:30] <pimperle> the network applet is visible though
[13:30] <pimperle> is it because i don't load the gnome runtime on login?
[13:30] <pimperle> the working machine does
[13:31] <pimperle> ah, i had the wrong notification applet
[13:31] <pimperle> sry for the bugging
[16:00] <uskerine> hi
[16:00] <uskerine> I have a server with 2 HD and I would like to install Xubuntu using software RAID
[16:07] <laite> is there any downside installing 32-bit xubuntu into 64-bit machine with 4Gb RAM
[16:08] <Sysi> you can't use every bit of that 4GB
[16:08] <Sysi> so not really
[16:08] <uskerine2> how Xubuntu should be installed to use software RAID?
[16:08] <laite> well, what I've seen xubuntu manages with 2Gb just perfectly =)
[16:08] <Sysi> uskerine2: with alternate installation disk
[16:09] <Sysi> !raid
[16:09] <laite> It's just that wine seems to crash a lot with Mass Effect2, and I've narrowed problem to be with '64bit librarys on 32bit software'-range :/
[16:09] <uskerine2> so I have to download alternate installation disk
[16:09] <uskerine2> ok
[16:09] <uskerine2> thanks
[16:10] <laite> so I was wondering whether I should just install 32--bit xubuntu instead
[16:10] <Sysi> it may be possible some way with livecd but you have to search that info yourself :P alternate is probably easier
[16:12] <uskerine2> I have to install a server, I am fine with downloading alternate and using it
[16:12] <uskerine2> is it difficult?
[16:52] <uskerine2> with 1Tb HD, which partitions layout would you recommend
[16:52] <uskerine2> ?
[16:53] <pimperle> uskerine2: this totally depends on your needs
[16:53] <uskerine2> desktop system
[16:53] <pimperle> usually i go with small /boot, swap, and the rest for lvm
[16:53] <uskerine2> 20 thin clients against a single server, firefox & libreoffice usage
[16:54] <uskerine2> is it recommended to use separate /var ?
[16:54] <pimperle> then i add a system partition to the lvm with 8-16 GB
[16:54] <pimperle> for a server, a separate /var can be usefull, if space consumptious applications like mysql reside there
[16:55] <pimperle> with lvm you can resize all partitions as needed lateron
[16:55] <uskerine2> i didn't know lvm
[17:21] <martinphone> radio tray users in here?
[17:34] <hagi> Hello. I use 12.04 LTS. Can I filter which umounted removable devices are displayed on desktop? I have multiple HDD partitions that I don't want to use on this installation
[17:34] <knome> hagi, you can hide all those devices, but afaik, no filtering is possible
[17:34] <hagi> that is a shame :(
[17:35] <hagi> so when I plug in my USB stick, what kind of other tool I can use to access it if desktop utility is hidden
[17:35] <holstein> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=124445 may help
[17:46] <martinphone> how do I extract the address from a linked piece of text for 400 examples?
[17:52] <martinphone> or, from a html document
[18:31] <martinphone> how do I extract ALL url's from a file like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:32] <aguitel> man wget
[18:33] <Sysi> martinphone: wrong link
[18:33] <martinphone> sorry http://paste.ubuntu.com/1020059/
[18:34] <Sysi> cat thatfile.txt | grep http > urls.txt
[18:36] <Sysi> I'm not sure how pure result will that give
[18:37] <aguitel> martinphone, if you print to pdf ?
[18:38] <martinphone> aguitel, i dont see the point of that
[18:40] <martinphone> Sysi, closer to what I need: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1020067/
[18:40] <martinphone> there are 3 sections separated by ><, I need only the second one, any idea?
[18:47] <martinphone> whats the name of the key above block/caps?
[18:50] <Sysi> tab?
[18:59] <martinphone> yes, thanks
[19:00] <martinphone> i dont know wtf I did, but there are 7 missing links for the grand total
[19:00] <martinphone> redoing it again
[19:07] <martinphone> help with geany: what do I write in replace to get rid of all return hits?
[19:22] <martinphone> how do I add url= to the beginnig of all the 500 lines of the txt I am editing with geany?
[19:28] <drc> martinphone: Did you ever thinkn about asking in #geany for help with geany?
[19:28] <martinphone> closing in: I need to add all these names http://paste.ubuntu.com/1020153/ to all these urls http://paste.ubuntu.com/1020152/ in exactly that order. I am editing it with geany
[19:29] <martinphone> yes drc , but nobody answers me there
[19:29] <martinphone> and another chatter helped me here with a command
[19:39] <Xifanie> Hello, I'm running on 12.04 but I have no clue how to change my startup applications, could someone point me in the right direction?
[19:40] <drc> Xifanie: App Menu>Settings>Settings Manager>Session and Startup>Application Autostart.
[19:41] <Xifanie> Ah thanks! :)
[19:52] <dario_> screen tearing in xubuntu 12.04...any solutions?
[20:32] <martinphone> 2 hours to solve the thing...
[20:32] <martinphone> for how long can your problems with syntax lag?
[20:33] <juancito> hi
[20:33] <juancito> somebody to talk spanish?
[20:34] <Sysi> !es
[20:35] <juancito> Thanks!!!
[20:37] <martinphone> i wouldnt say no to a spanish paella
[20:43] <vn> valenciana por favor
[20:51] <GridCube> nunca comì paella
[20:52] <martinphone> but the state of their economy makes me rethink...
[20:53] <GridCube> oh, mmm this goes to offtopic please :)
[21:34] <uskerine> hi, where can i find which DNS server is actually configured in Xubuntu 12.04?
[21:34] <Unit193> cat /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf
[21:35] <nclm> Hi guys, I'm pretty new to linux and I think I made a bit of a mistake when installing xubuntu. Is it supposed to come with GRUB?
[21:35] <Unit193> nm-tool will also have it.
[21:35] <Unit193> Grub? Quite so, do you think it doesn't have it? Or is it just not showing up?
[21:35] <uskerine> "/var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf?
[21:35] <nclm> My computer is just booting to windows instead of going to it
[21:36] <nclm> I didn't pick "install xubuntu side by side with windows", though
[21:36] <nclm> I picked "Do something else" from the installer to set up my partitions
[21:36] <nclm> I guess I missed something when there
[21:36] <uskerine> unit193, i have installed dnsmasq as i need it for LTSP
[21:36] <Unit193> Should have given you the chance not to, but unless you unchecked it.
[21:36] <uskerine> and since then name resolution
[21:36] <uskerine> does not work
[21:37] <uskerine> any ideas?
[21:37] <nclm> Should I just reinstall the whole thing, or is there a quicker fix?
[21:37] <Unit193> uskerine: That'll be fun, Ubuntu uses it for something else.
[21:37] <Unit193> !grub | nclm: It has the answer here
[21:38] <nclm> I never had grub, windows was on before I installed xubuntu
[21:38] <nclm> I will look at that link, though. Thank you.
[21:38] <uskerine> Unit193, /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf points to the right one, but /etc/resolv.conf points to loopback address
[21:38] <uskerine> is that right?
[21:40] <Unit193> I had siad /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf you know...
[21:40] <Unit193> !resolvconf
[21:40] <uskerine> i don't have that file
[21:40] <Unit193> ps aux |grep dnsmasq    and see what it points to.
[21:47] <uskerine> " /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf
[21:48] <uskerine> if i "cat" that file i see the right dns server
[21:48] <uskerine> however, if i ping www.yahoo.com
[21:48] <uskerine> i do not get answer
[21:48] <uskerine> if i do nslookup
[21:48] <uskerine> type "server mydnsserver"
[21:48] <uskerine> then "www.yahoo.com"
[21:48] <uskerine> y got the right answer
[21:48] <uskerine> any explanation on this?
[21:49] <uskerine> also in /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp.conf I have the following item:
[21:50] <uskerine> # Don't function as a DNS SErver:
[21:50] <uskerine> port=0
[23:02] <KombuchaKip> Is there any way to get play / stop / next / etc buttons in the notification area or anywhere in the panel for Rhythmbox under Xfce?
[23:12] <bazhang> !find xfce4-xfapplet-plugin
[23:13] <GridCube> KombuchaKip, isnt rhytmbox integrated into the volume indicator?
[23:14] <bazhang> http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-xfapplet-plugin
[23:15] <KombuchaKip> bazhang: Not found in precise, as you say. :(
[23:15] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: Let me check.
[23:17] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: I don't see a volume indicator in the list of panel plugins available. There is a Mixer plugin, but just for controlling volume by the looks of it.
[23:18] <GridCube> KombuchaKip, you know the icon to control volume in the panel, the one thats beside the network manager icon? and the mail icon? it integrates media players into itself when playing
[23:19] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: Can you let me know what the plugin is called? My panel looks different.
[23:19] <GridCube> KombuchaKip, its not called anything, its integrated into the plugin indicator plugin
[23:19] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: Ok
[23:20] <aguitel> is anyway to install xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.4 in 12.04 for intel graphic ?
[23:21] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: I added the Indicator Plugin to the panel, restarted rhythmbox, but it just says "No Indicators"
[23:22] <GridCube> KombuchaKip, doesnt rhythmbox have an option somewhere to add an indicator to the indicator area?
[23:22] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: I'll try installing indicator-sound
[23:22] <GridCube> KombuchaKip, it should look like this: http://frugalware.org/~devil505/blog/plugin-sound-menu-indicator-pour-exaile/?lang=en
[23:23] <GridCube> rhythmbox should be integrated ther
[23:24] <malv> how do you guys not go insane from the gtk3 move bug when using the software center or evince?
[23:24] <GridCube> who uses usc when can use sudo apt-get
[23:25] <bazhang> malv, thats not a support question
[23:25] <malv> installing humble bundle games
[23:25] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: I already have that package installed. Like I said, I added the xfce indicator plugin to my panel, but it just says "No indicators"
[23:25] <bazhang> install from the command line then
[23:26] <GridCube> KombuchaKip, well, why?
[23:26] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: ???
[23:26] <GridCube> what have you done to not having any plugin to the plugin indicator?
[23:26] <GridCube> you should have the 3 that comes with xubuntu
[23:26] <malv> do not many people use Xubuntu because I am surprised the bug hasn't been addressed
[23:26] <GridCube> malv, i never heard of that
[23:27] <malv> do you use evince?
[23:27] <GridCube> no
[23:27] <bazhang> malv, file a bug
[23:27] <GridCube> ^^^^
[23:27] <bazhang> !bugs | malv
[23:27] <malv> already have
[23:27] <malv> as always, the bug sits there unaddressed
[23:27] <bazhang> then follow up on it malv
[23:27] <bazhang> whats the buglink malv
[23:27] <GridCube> malv, go to #xubuntu-devel and paste it, complain and do something to get it fixed
[23:28] <knome> hm?
[23:28] <knome> -complain
[23:28] <knome> :)
[23:28] <GridCube> if devel people dont know about at problem then tehy wont ever fix it
[23:28] <malv> not sure if they'd be good to handle it since it seems to reside in gtk+3
[23:28]  * GridCube always complains and he stills allowed around this places
[23:28] <bazhang> malv, whats the bug link
[23:29] <GridCube> malv, you don't know till you ask
[23:29] <malv> I dont want to associate my real name with my IRC accnt
[23:29] <malv> and I post with my real identity
[23:29] <bazhang> ...
[23:29] <GridCube> ...
[23:29] <knome> in that case, tough luck really
[23:29] <GridCube> ._.
[23:29] <bazhang> malv, this is not the complaints channel
[23:29] <malv> is there a complaints channel?
[23:29] <bazhang> NO
[23:29] <knome> malv, that's /dev/null
[23:30] <bazhang> try ##unavailable
[23:30] <malv> how do things get fixed if people do not complain
[23:30] <knome> by people being elaborate on the issues they're having
[23:30] <bazhang> malv, they file bugs, and respectfully follow up on them, not waste people times complaining and doing nothing to move things forward
[23:30] <malv> tried that
[23:31] <GridCube> malv, you just said you dont want to, you are the one not wanting to paste the bugreport to the people who can fix it, i mean, man
[23:31] <bazhang> no you haven't
[23:31] <bazhang> malv, you wont even tell us the bug link
[23:31] <knome> while we want to help our users, FOSS is still "who does, decides"
[23:31] <malv> it's there in the GTK+3 package section
[23:31] <bazhang> link
[23:31] <GridCube> in any case, lets go back to real problems KombuchaKip
[23:31] <malv> yea, seems like I will have to fix it myself
[23:31] <malv> and I'll keep the fix for myself =)
[23:32] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: lol
[23:32] <GridCube> KombuchaKip, so what did you did to get rid of the plugins indicators?
[23:32] <bazhang> malv, please get on topic here
[23:32] <GridCube> did you deleted something?
[23:32] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: Who knows. I remember removing a bunch of indicator packages because they were visually "noisy" to me. But I don't know what the minimal to install back again so I can use with rhythmbox.
[23:33] <GridCube> :(
[23:33] <GridCube> well i dont know KombuchaKip you deleted part of what xubuntu is
[23:33] <GridCube> so i don't know how to help with that
[23:33] <GridCube> refixing it should be like reinstalling xubuntu-desktopn
[23:34] <GridCube>  xubuntu-desktop
[23:34] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: It's just a metapackage, as that's largely what xubuntu is. I don't want to install that deb again because it will pull all kinds of other crap that I removed and don't want.
[23:35] <GridCube> but... you are in the #xubuntu channel, and you are not using xubuntu... you are just using xfce
[23:36] <GridCube> you see the problem there?
[23:36] <GridCube> the plugin indicator is part of xubuntu. it integrates media players to control it and stuff
[23:36] <knome> KombuchaKip, using xfce-only is not officially supported - it doesn't mean we won't help with it at all - but we don't always know why problems arise
[23:37] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: No, I don't see the problem. The indicator plugin is part of xfce. Xubuntu is just a collection of xfce packages. So all I'm asking is which actual package, not metapackage, should I install.
[23:37] <knome> KombuchaKip, problems that happen with xubuntu-desktop are higher priority
[23:37] <KombuchaKip> knome: I understand.
[23:38] <knome> in addition to just a set of packages, xubuntu does provide configuration stuff too, so it's not always straightforward
[23:38] <KombuchaKip> knome: I understand.
[23:39] <KombuchaKip> knome: But all I'm asking is which deb contains the binary for the indicator support that provides rhythmbox integration?
[23:39] <GridCube> KombuchaKip, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/xubuntu-desktop
[23:39] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: See above.
[23:39] <GridCube> KombuchaKip, see above
[23:39] <knome> KombuchaKip, i've no idea. because of what i just said, these kind of answers are not always available
[23:40] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: Yes, I asked which deb. The one you pointed to is a metapackage, as it says right on the page.
[23:40] <GridCube> KombuchaKip, according to that site you should need the indicator-sound-gtk2
[23:41] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: Thank you. I'll try that.
[23:41] <GridCube> it lists ALL the packages it install...
[23:42] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: Thanks. That is the right package.
[23:43] <GridCube> see, the link i pasted you, it had information on it, to read
[23:43] <GridCube> ;)
[23:43] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: Yes, I can see it pulls about a hundred packages. As said earlier, that's not what I wanted.
[23:43] <GridCube> note that not all the music players know how to use the sound indicator, rhythmbox should
[23:44] <KombuchaKip> GridCube: Agreed. It does.