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shadeslayerhave you tried setting it to the horizontal layout?00:00
shadeslayer:P00:00
yofeluhm, that now still covers the panel, but now above the icon. It doesn't cover the icon anmore. And seriously... looks horrible...00:02
yofelnvm I guess00:02
shadeslayeryofel: screenshot?00:02
shadeslayerand haggle tdfischer to fix it for vertical panels maybe ? :D00:03
yofelI would actually already be happy once it stops covering the panel: http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/km.png00:04
yofel(i.e. make it use plasma...)00:04
shadeslayeruhh00:05
shadeslayeryofel: I think you can move it a bit00:05
shadeslayerand then doesn't it remember window position?00:05
yofelnot movable here00:05
shadeslayermost interesting00:06
yofelthat's the icon popup, not the mixer window00:06
shadeslayerbbiab00:06
shadeslayermost interesting00:10
shadeslayerI think it used to move00:10
shadeslayerand it respects the panel width when in vertical position, so something must be messed up in the horizontal layout00:11
shadeslayer*shrug*00:12
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: what's teh screenie?01:26
debfxok, so running list-missing is not a problem but lintian can only be run if we make pkg-kde-tools depend on it in the ppa08:26
debfxwhich is a problem as we could miss required build-dependencies that are pulled in by lintian08:26
bambeeRiddell, apachelogger:  the move is done by 1/debian-qt-kde.mk and dh_movelibskdeinit :)09:08
debfxmore likely by 2/debian-qt-kde.mk since most packages don't use cdbs anymore09:27
isemenovRiddell: hello! sorry for the delay, I've just added a PGP key to my launchpad account10:08
isemenovso, afaiu, now I can request a ppa and start using it/10:09
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yofelisemenov: did you sign the CoC yet?10:14
isemenovyofel: oh right, I've forgotten to do that10:15
isemenovthanky ou for the reminder10:15
yofelisemenov: https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct10:15
isemenovyofel: done10:18
yofelisemenov: if you go to your launchpad profile, you should now have a "Create a new PPA" entry there10:19
yofelwhen you create a ppa, carefully choose the url name, you can't change that later and you can't (properly) delete a PPA so far. There is a delete button, but all that does is turn your ppa into a zombie10:22
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BluesKajHi all11:09
apacheloggerjtechidna: the screenshot is a mockup of a package manager :P11:34
debfxyofel: do you have an idea how to fetch build logs from private PPAs?12:25
yofelyou need to login with an account that has access to the ppa, login_anonymous() won't work12:28
yofelyou can use a credentials file if you don't want to depend on the keyring12:29
debfxyofel: I can get the build log url but downloading it requires launchpad.net SSO login12:31
yofelwell, yes, you need to login once to verify that you have permissions to download the file12:33
yofelonly way to skip that is to use a credentials file that's already authenticated12:34
yofeli.e. use something like: lp = Launchpad.login_with("fetch_logs", "production", credentials_file="/home/yofel/.cache/lp_credentials/creds.txt")12:35
debfxcan you fetch the log through the api?12:35
yofeluh, sure?12:35
yofelsec12:35
debfxI only found a method that returns an url that you can download through http(s)12:36
yofelwell, that's what I do here actually, and it works12:37
yofeldebfx: http://paste.kde.org/49217612:37
yofeloriginally for neon, but with 2 changes so it works for ninjas12:38
debfxthat works for ninjas o_O12:38
yofelhm12:40
yofelno12:40
yofel-.-12:40
yofelread the wrong file, sorry12:40
yofelindeed only returns the openid stuff12:41
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JontheEchidnaapachelogger: halp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1021373/14:48
JontheEchidna(the 1.3 branch does exist)14:48
AdityabIs there a QtWebkit ppa where I can get the latest/nightly version?15:27
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: you should not name branches like that TBH15:47
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: what's your command line?15:48
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: ./libqapt.rb15:48
JontheEchidnahere's the rc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1021465/15:48
apacheloggerno args?15:48
JontheEchidnaI just put the stuff in the dialogs that come up15:49
apacheloggerah15:49
JontheEchidnatake l10n from stable, version 1.3.215:49
apacheloggerlogin for getting raw text15:50
apacheloggerwin15:50
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: let's not use puc anymore plz15:50
JontheEchidnait's a bit early in the morning for acronyms, what's puc again?15:50
apacheloggerpaste.ubuntu.com15:50
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: Switching to branch 1.3...15:50
apacheloggerBranch 1.3 set up to track remote branch 1.3 from origin.15:50
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: is your releaseme clone up to date?15:51
JontheEchidnayeah, I did a git pull and copied lib/ over15:51
apacheloggersomething's broken there :P15:52
apacheloggerworks just fine for me15:52
JontheEchidna:s15:52
apacheloggerchecking l10n from trunk and setting version to 1.3.215:52
apacheloggerah15:52
apacheloggerstable15:52
apacheloggerthough that should not make a difference15:52
apacheloggeryah, now diff15:53
JontheEchidnaweird15:53
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: rm -rf libqapt-1.3* && ./libqapt.rb15:53
apacheloggerotherwise just copy your rc to releaseme and run it from there15:53
JontheEchidnasame from releaseme git checkout :(15:56
apacheloggerOo15:57
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: what's your gitconfig looking like?15:58
JontheEchidnauh, how do I check that?15:58
JontheEchidnahere's the releaseme output tho: http://paste.kde.org/492290/15:58
JontheEchidnaoh, ~/.gitconfig15:59
JontheEchidnahere: http://paste.kde.org/492296/15:59
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: cat ~/.git/config ~/.gitconfig15:59
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: if you go in the dir and try git checkout 1.3 what happens?16:02
JontheEchidna"Already on '1.3'"16:02
apacheloggerOo16:02
apacheloggerso where is that error coming from :O16:02
JontheEchidna:(16:03
apacheloggerhttp://paste.kde.org/49230216:03
apacheloggerthat is all it does with git16:04
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: your rc does not do a local clone?16:04
JontheEchidnacan you tell if it does from this? http://paste.kde.org/492290/16:05
apacheloggerno16:06
apacheloggerI mean, is the rc you pasted your actual rc :P16:06
apacheloggeror do you have a local clone as gitrepo16:06
* apachelogger points out that for amarok they used to have local clones as it is 30000% faster16:06
JontheEchidnathe libqaptrc is the one that gets used16:06
apacheloggerin fact that is the reason you can define a git url to begin with ^^16:06
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: let's printf debug this a bit16:07
JontheEchidnafor ex. if I change the branch to "poop"16:07
JontheEchidnaSwitching to branch poop...16:07
JontheEchidnaerror: pathspec 'poop' did not match any file(s) known to git.16:07
apacheloggerhttp://paste.kde.org/492308/16:09
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: ^16:09
JontheEchidna./lib/vcs-git.rb:25: undefined local variable or method `repo' for GIT:Module (NameError)16:12
JontheEchidnauhm, something messed up16:12
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: mind passing --no-prefix to git diff so I can apply the patch?16:13
apacheloggerjust git apply?16:13
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: also drop the puts repo16:14
apacheloggerit is not used with git it seems16:14
apacheloggerbbiab16:14
JontheEchidnagit apply doesn't do anything w/ that patch16:14
JontheEchidnaoh, because I'm not in releaseme's git16:17
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/492314/16:19
JontheEchidnawtf16:21
JontheEchidnajonathan@jonathan-laptop:/tmp/libqapt-1.3.2$ git branch16:21
JontheEchidna* master16:21
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: well16:26
apacheloggergit branch -r16:26
apacheloggeranyhow16:26
apacheloggerplz try the command sequence there16:26
apacheloggergit clone --depth 1 git@git.kde.org:libqapt libqapt-1.3.216:26
apacheloggercd libqapt-1.3.2 && git checkout 1.316:26
JontheEchidnaI did that and it failed16:27
JontheEchidnasame error as the releaseme script had16:27
afiestaslaunchpad is taking 10h to build a package, can someone build it for me so at lest I know the debian/control things are working?16:28
JontheEchidnaafiestas: what pkg?16:28
afiestashttps://code.launchpad.net/~afiestas/+recipe/samba-mounter-daily16:28
JontheEchidnaI'll run it through pbuilder16:28
afiestasJontheEchidna: thanz !16:29
apacheloggerstupid lunchpad16:31
JontheEchidnaafiestas: the packaging looks to be for webaccounts, not samba-mounter16:33
afiestasJontheEchidna: uh16:34
* apachelogger further notes that samba-mounter is not properly licensed16:34
afiestasI forgot to s/// something16:34
JontheEchidna;-)16:34
apacheloggerhehe16:34
apacheloggerwe should like make a script for kde packages16:34
apacheloggerit's really just stealing the packaging from somewhere else and doing replacement on it16:35
afiestasmmm16:35
afiestasgreping the debian/ folder not 1 appearence of webaccounts16:35
JontheEchidnahttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~afiestas/samba-mounter/debian/view/head:/debian/control16:35
JontheEchidnacould be that you forgot to push ;-P16:36
* apachelogger recommends checkouts16:36
apacheloggerfor packaging16:36
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: btw16:36
JontheEchidnajonathan@jonathan-laptop:/tmp/libqapt-1.3.2$ git branch -r16:36
JontheEchidna  origin/HEAD -> origin/master16:36
JontheEchidna  origin/master16:36
JontheEchidnaso something is wrong with the checkout business16:36
afiestasa shit I see16:37
afiestasxD16:37
apacheloggerprolly depth16:37
afiestasthe copy paste pasted .bzr dir16:37
afiestasxD16:37
afiestascopy paste is so fucking evil16:37
JontheEchidnalol16:37
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: yeah, exactly. without --depth 1 it works16:37
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: http://paste.kde.org/492320/16:38
apacheloggerI don't get it16:38
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: what's your git version?16:39
afiestasis there any magic baazar command that will smash the wrong pushed branch?16:39
JontheEchidnaInstalled: 1:1.7.10-116:39
afiestasit is bitching that the branch has "diverged"16:39
apacheloggerafiestas: --force?16:39
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: git broke something I say16:40
afiestasbzr push --force lp:~afiestas/samba-mounter/debian16:40
afiestasbzr: ERROR: no such option: --force16:40
apacheloggeron 1795 it still works16:40
apacheloggerafiestas: --overwrite16:40
apacheloggermental note: bzr does not use common arguments, that would make it easier to use16:40
JontheEchidnaremoving --depth seems to work as a workaround for now16:40
afiestasJontheEchidna: done :p16:40
afiestashttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~afiestas/samba-mounter/debian/view/head:/debian/control16:41
afiestasxD16:41
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: it might be intended16:41
apacheloggerit might not16:41
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: what does man git clone have to say about depth?16:42
JontheEchidna"Create a shallow clone with a history truncated to the specified number of revisions"16:43
JontheEchidnae.g. don't also download the whole freakin' history :P16:43
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: that's all?16:44
JontheEchidnaI suppose that they went even further than just downloading the last revision, and now only download the master branch :s16:44
apacheloggerwell16:44
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/492332/16:44
apachelogger       Clones a repository into a newly created directory, creates remote-tracking branches for each branch in the cloned repository (visible using git branch16:44
apachelogger       -r), and creates and checks out an initial branch that is forked from the cloned repository’s currently active branch.16:44
apacheloggerso it should always have the remote trackings16:44
apacheloggerregardless ofshallow or not16:44
apacheloggerIMHO16:44
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: nothing changed there16:45
apacheloggerwell16:45
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I'd go check with git upstream if that is intended behavior16:45
JontheEchidnaafiestas: dpkg-source: error: syntax error in samba-mounter/debian/control at line 14: line with unknown format (not field-colon-value16:46
JontheEchidnaneeds a space as the first char :P16:46
JontheEchidnadpkg-source: error: source package has two conflicting values - samba-mounter and samba-mount16:47
JontheEchidnaneeds to be samba-mounter in debian/changelog, I suppose16:47
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: http://paste.kde.org/492338/16:49
apacheloggerplease try this16:49
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: works :D16:51
afiestasJontheEchidna: try again plz16:52
JontheEchidnaafiestas: I made those changes locally and I'm now pbuilding it :P16:52
JontheEchidnaugh, I have to go for an hour or two, bbiab16:53
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: plz verify thatnew master works for you16:55
jussiHave we all read the thoughts in here? http://ubuntuwicohan.blogspot.fi/2012/06/kde-and-application-management.html17:25
apacheloggerjussi: TLDR17:27
sreichhah, indeed17:28
sreich"Another frustration is the inability to get Dolphin to use collation order or otherwise sort filenames by upper and lower case rather than mixing case together."17:28
sreichisn't that what natural sorting is? or am i wrong?17:28
apacheloggerhttp://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/03/plasma-desktopLy3283.png17:31
apacheloggerno clue what he means17:32
apacheloggeroh 17:32
yofelascii sorting?17:32
apacheloggerperhaps A AA Ab17:33
apacheloggerthen a aa ab aB17:33
yofelmore like, a b c A B C17:33
yofelwell, yeah17:33
* apachelogger doesn't see the point, but oh well17:33
apacheloggerdolphin has grown way too fat already17:34
apacheloggermuch like dragon17:34
yofeldoesn't matter usually, unless you want to find something in another application that uses a different sorting behaviour. Then it's slightly annoying17:34
yofelway to fat? Recently someone complained that dolphin 2 dropped some feature17:35
apacheloggerdoesn't all of Qt use the kfiledialog?17:35
yofelcan't remember what it was17:35
apacheloggerand in turn the dolphin part17:35
apacheloggeryofel: look through the menus17:35
* apachelogger couldn't find shit if he wanted to17:35
yofeluhm... it's less fat than konqueror17:35
apacheloggerstill too fat17:35
apacheloggerjust like dragon, I tell you17:36
apacheloggeronly yesterday I created branches to add yet more menu options in dragon17:36
apacheloggernot even sure why17:36
yofelhaving more features is KDE-like17:36
apacheloggerhaving too many is also KDE-like17:36
yofelotherwise you would have a Qt-fied pcmanfm17:36
apacheloggerin dragon 4.10 there will be a way to toggle *every* UI element17:37
yofel4.10? what version scheme's that?17:37
* apachelogger plans on remove all but menubar toggle and tell people to edit the ui.rc file17:37
yofeland you're talking about over-engineering things...17:38
apacheloggeryofel: 9 < 10 < 11, no?17:38
yofel$ dolphin --version17:38
yofelDolphin: 2.017:38
apacheloggeryofel: no I am talking about cluttering the UI with pointless crap17:38
apacheloggerbecause some user somewhere at some point wanted it17:38
yofel2.0 -> 4.10 makes no sense17:38
apacheloggerlike audio cd playback in dragon17:38
apacheloggeryofel: dragon17:39
yofelerrrr17:39
* apachelogger points out that the version stuff gives him a major headache17:39
yofelDragon Player: 2.017:39
apacheloggeryofel: yeah17:39
apacheloggerit's been like that since KDE 417:39
apacheloggerdespite having undergone complete code destructions since then17:39
yofelwell, I'm just wondering what happened to 317:40
yofeland where the 10 comes from17:40
apacheloggerpending UI concept17:40
apacheloggeryofel: KDE SC 4.1017:40
yofelah, ok17:40
afiestasapachelogger: mini-bangarang for dragon3/4 whatever FTW18:08
* afiestas is addicted to bangarang18:08
apacheloggermini-what?18:09
afiestasbangarang ?18:09
apacheloggerwhat is a mini-bangrang though?18:09
afiestasan app based on bangarang concepts but smaller without all the advanced options18:10
bulldog98yofel: what to do for uploading with a new tarball?18:11
yofelrename the tar to 4.8.80a, edit changelog and whatever else that's needed, upload18:11
tsdgeoslo guys, how am i supposed to compile soprano if i can't install libiodbc ?18:12
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/nepomuk-core] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (6 files in 2 dirs) * new upstream tarball * drop now uneeded patches * make sure no package depends on kde-runtime18:12
apacheloggertsdgeos: hm?18:13
yofeltsdgeos: use unixodbc-dev18:13
yofeland I think there's a patch to drop the requirement on libiodbc18:13
tsdgeosyofel: i do have unixodbc-dev installed, soprano still refuses to compile18:14
tsdgeosany idea where that patch is?18:14
tsdgeoscompile [the virtuoso backend]18:14
bulldog98yofel: should I also commit the change in the changelog?18:14
yofelapt-get source soprano, then look in debian/patches18:14
yofelbulldog98: not sure, I usually don't18:15
yofeltsdgeos: why do you need to build soprano?18:15
yofeljust curious18:15
tsdgeosyofel: why wooldn't i want to build stuff?18:15
tsdgeosit's my computer18:15
tsdgeosi do stuff on it18:15
yofelnvm me then ^^18:15
tsdgeosyofel: i could tell you that as 4.9 beta 1 packager dude i want to test the packages i created18:16
tsdgeosbut does it matter who or what i am?18:16
tsdgeosstuff should be compilable18:16
bulldog98tsdgeos: really :)18:16
tsdgeosand it's a shame one needs to dig in ubuntu soprano patches to be able to compile it18:16
yofelwell sorry for asking18:16
tsdgeosbulldog98: yes, really18:16
yofelI think it's a debian thing, and it bit me once too18:17
bulldog98tsdgeos: if you find my sarcasm you can keep it :P18:17
tsdgeosbulldog98: i will18:17
tsdgeosi'm a greedy ma18:17
tsdgeosn18:17
* tsdgeos uses the no-odbc-dm patch18:19
yofelfor reference, see bug 90163818:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 901638 in soprano (Debian) "Remove iodbc2 (causes upgrade failure from Oneiric to Precise)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90163818:21
tsdgeosdoesn't really say 18:23
tsdgeoswhy iodbc2 needs to be killed18:23
tsdgeoswhy the patch it's not upstream18:23
tsdgeosbut, oh well18:23
tsdgeoscan't expect people to be nice with eachother :D18:24
yofelmultiarch reasons, debian bug 639300 says more18:24
ubottuDebian bug 639300 in soprano "please build against unixodbc-dev instead of libiodbc2-dev" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/63930018:24
yofeland libiodbc2 seems unmaintained18:24
tsdgeosthat's bad18:28
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkcddb] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/changelog new upstream tarball18:37
yofelhm18:42
yofelchanging '+repack' to 'a' makes the version lower :S18:43
tsdgeos:D18:43
yofelsomeone got a good idea what to do as the new tars don't need a repack?18:43
JontheEchidnaafiestas: it built fine after those changes :)19:04
afiestasJontheEchidna: thx !19:05
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: master works too19:12
* yofel removed the old packages and re-uploaded19:13
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: thx19:13
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkcompactdisc] Philip Muškovac * 4 * debian/changelog new upstream tarball19:14
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/nepomuk-core] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) import kubuntu_strigi_ram_detection.diff from kde-runtime package as the code was moved here20:09
ejathi .. sorry to interupt .. is someone working on the amarok 2.6 beta 1 ? since there is already in debian http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.kde.extras/1184620:20
yofeldoesn't seem like it, thanks for pointing to that20:21
afiestasis possible to builkd a package locally and upload it to a ppa?20:22
yofelafiestas: build locally: yes, upload to ppa: yes, upload locally built binaries to ppa: NO20:23
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/nepomuk-core] Philip Muškovac * 4 * debian/ (nepomuk-core-dev.install not-installed) put dbus interface XMLs into nepomuk-core-dev20:32
CIA-44[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 276 * debian/ (13 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)22:44
CIA-44- drop libnepomukdatamanagement.so override from kde-runtime.lintian-overrides -22:44
CIA-44drop libnepomuksync4 package, moved to nepomuk-core - drop obsolete22:44
apachelogger~/src/bzr/skeletor23:22
apachelogger^^23:22
JontheEchidnaobligatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5LpwO-An423:24
apacheloggerthat ended too soon23:42
apacheloggerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GggY4TEYbk&feature=related23:42
apacheloggerbettar23:42

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