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seb_How do I downgrade flash from 11 to 10.x ? the new version does not work with my computer.02:09
DarthFrogseb_: Re-install.02:10
DarthFrogOh, just flash.  Hmm.  In the immortal words of Emily Litella, "Never mind".02:11
seb_Went i re-install 10 , Ubuntu02:11
seb_Went i re-install 10 , Ubuntu install center brings me back to 1102:11
seb_Ubuntu software center sorry02:12
Kubuntu_ALCan you help with a Kubuntu wireless problem?02:57
Kubuntu_ALCan anyone help me with a Kubuntu wireless problem?02:57
mr-richKubuntu_AL: Ask and wait ... if someone knows the answer, they will answer ...03:17
Kubuntu_ALMy wired connection works. Wireless doesn't work. Wireless goes IN and OUT. Get msg, 'WLAN interface Setting network address'. Address is never set. Can anyone help?03:21
mr-richKubuntu_AL: laptop?03:21
Kubuntu_ALRunning Kubuntu 12.04 LTS on Acer laptop. (Wireless works fine in Windows 7 on same laptop).03:22
Kubuntu_ALHave dual boot Win7 and Kubuntu 12.0403:22
mr-richKubuntu_AL: Get the make and model of the wireless card and check if it's compatible w/linux03:22
mr-richsome aren't03:23
Kubuntu_ALI got wireless to work fine with Kubuntu 11.10 on this same laptop03:24
mr-richKubuntu_AL: clean install or upgrade?03:24
Kubuntu_ALK11.10 was clean install in part 5 alongside Win7 in partv 303:25
mr-richKubuntu_AL: so,you upgraded to 12.04?03:25
Kubuntu_ALIt seems a lot of people are having trouble with wireless on K12.0403:25
mr-richI haven't upgraded yet ... I'm waiting for the point release due out this month ...03:27
Kubuntu_ALIn K11 I downloaded all available updates in Muon, but OS froze twice at 37% when installing the updates. So I killed 11.10 and did a clean install of K12 64-bit03:27
mr-richKubuntu_AL: did you have a shitload of updates on 11.10? If so, I find that doing a few at a time is the way to go ... saveing the kernel upgrades for last ...03:29
Kubuntu_ALI created discs for K12 32 & 64-bit and Ubuntu 12 32 & 64v bit. I was going to try all of the V12 discs until I could get the updates loaded OK.03:29
mr-richI save the kernel upgrades for last since they need a reboot ... I don't reboot often ... :)03:30
Kubuntu_ALMR-RICH - Can I open a channel to you to discuss further?03:31
mr-richKubuntu_AL: is that necessary? if we talk here, someone else may see the conversation and be able to offer better advice ...03:32
Kubuntu_ALThat's fine. Let's talk here.03:33
mr-richI've upgraded since 11.04 on this box and had problems ... This time I'm waiting for the point release before I upgrade to 12.04 ...03:35
mr-richopps ... since 10.10 ...03:35
Kubuntu_ALI have a PC I built that is dual boot Win7/Kubuntu. Was K11.10, then updates came down for V12.04. I loaded all and everything is fine. My connecxtion is wired of the desktop.03:36
mr-richsame here ... I have an old laptop that I run Ubuntu on and the wireless upgrade did fine there ...03:37
mr-richdepends on the wireless card ...03:38
Kubuntu_ALI'm trying to load Kubuntu on my laptop since I can't get Skype tp work on my desktop. Desktop is 64-bit also. Normal sound works , but audio fails in Skype, therfore I thought that I would try loading Linux and Skype on my laptop.03:39
mr-richDid skype work before the upgrade to 12.04?03:40
Kubuntu_ALNO03:40
Kubuntu_ALI do well in Windows environment. I'm a programmer (not a hot shot, but I make a living at it). I'm a babe as far as Linux goes.03:41
mr-richprolly a problem with the cam you have ... I do research before I buy any hardware to make sure my system will support it ...03:41
mr-richI've been running GNU/Linux systems since 1995 ...03:42
mr-richI haven't dual booted in 10 years ...03:42
Kubuntu_ALOn my desktop the camera was okay. I can't recall if audio incoming or outgoing failed. Don't think it wwas both.03:43
mr-richI run M$ Win7 as a VM under Kubuntu ...03:43
Kubuntu_ALNice03:43
mr-richI had a problem with my cam mic on 11.04 ... always sounded like Alvin on the outgoing ... :)03:44
mr-richOne of the later updates fixed it ...03:44
mr-richI also run Mac OSX on a VM ...03:45
Kubuntu_ALI read that audio drivers for Skype were no good for 64-bit hardware. Fixing the problem is described as hit or miss.03:45
Kubuntu_ALWhat is you base OS on your desktop03:46
mr-richKubuntu all the way ...03:46
mr-richI have 2 computers that have NEVER seen an M$ OS run natively ...03:47
Kubuntu_ALI ran Ubuntu and was happy until the Unity desktop. This forced me to move to other Linux's until I settled on K.03:48
Kubuntu_ALI'm happy with K on the desktop, but I want Skype to work.03:48
mr-richUnity will eventually come around ... but it's limited for now03:49
mr-richIt's why I stick w/Kubuntu ...03:49
Kubuntu_ALUnity is based on search for what you want. How do you search for progs if you don't know what is on your system. That's what menus are for.03:50
mr-richRand Fadora for a looooong time ... too cutting edge sometimes and updates between versions was dicy03:50
Kubuntu_ALI've read that K may run into problems with the latest Gnome (2.5?? or 3.x) and that K devs may go to another desktop technology.03:52
mr-richI'd say if you're ready to commit, ditch the dual boot and go Kubuntu ...03:52
mr-richKDE & Gnome are 2 differen desktops ...03:52
Kubuntu_ALOpps true03:53
mr-richI remeber KDE and Gnome from the pre 1.0 days in the 90's ...03:54
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Kubuntu_AL The articles though seemed to suggest that Kubuntu devs may have to change their desktop technoloy for some reason or another.03:54
Kubuntu_ALGenerally, I very happy with KDE.03:54
mr-richstarted out as just KDE using the QT tool kit ... back then, the QT license was not OSI comatible, so Gnome was forked from KDE and started using the GTK tool kit instead ...03:55
Kubuntu_ALMy problem is that Linux seems to crash more than Win-XP SP3 and Win7.03:55
mr-richI have not had a crash on my Kubuntu systgem ever ...03:56
mr-richPlasma desktop went topsy-tervey a time or two, but that's it ... restart X and done03:57
Kubuntu_ALI kinda recall reading about desktop interfaces for Unix/Linux over the years. I get confused about all the talk of Gnome, KDE, X-Windows, QT, ... How to make since of it all ?03:58
mr-richI once had an uptime of 160+ days ...03:59
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Kubuntu_ALI run one too many progs or have too many windows in Chrome or Firefox and everything may freeze.03:59
Kubuntu_AL160 days.. I'm doing good for 16 hours04:00
mr-richI have at least 2 dozen window open right now including 6 VMs ...04:00
mr-richbut I also have 16GB of mem ... :)04:01
mr-richWhat do you do for programming?04:01
Kubuntu_ALI assume that you need 3 or 4 screens to keep track of all of those windows?04:02
Kubuntu_ALWork for a battery company. Create programs and web site to report battery test results. Do a good bit of Excel apps also.04:03
Kubuntu_ALYourself?04:04
mr-richI have 4 desktops and and a HUGE monitor ... :)04:04
mr-richweb? php? asp? ?04:05
Kubuntu_ALou program for work or pleasure?04:05
mr-richI do  bit of web programing on the side ... not that good at it, but I try ...04:05
Kubuntu_ALWe're a MS shop. VB.Net, c# and a little javascript04:06
mr-richI'm an old geek ... worked on mainframes for years ... now I sell furniture and get a few programming/admin gigs on the side when I can ...04:06
Kubuntu_ALwe've used VB5, 6 and VB.Net versions up thru VS.Net 201004:07
mr-richDid some VB in my day ... recently I wrote myself a little VBA utility at work to print clearance tags from M$ Word ...04:08
Kubuntu_ALWe'll probably load the VS.Net 2012 beta soon.04:08
mr-richMade myself an Excel spread sheet to track my monthly sales and keep track of my commisions ...04:09
mr-richthey use Sharepoint ...04:09
mr-richI don't think they expected any of the sales staff to use Sharepoint to the degree that I have ... :)04:10
mr-richWell, I don't know what to tell you about your wireless card unless you can backport the drivers from 11.10 to 12.04 ... I think I'm off to bed ... I'll play with my Macbook a bit  then nood off ...04:12
jvcleavemr-rich: you run kubuntu on a macbook - been trying allday :/04:15
Kubuntu_AL?? Do I need to set a pwd somewwhere to join '3kubuntu' properly? The dialog adfter the Join button wants me to enter a pwd.04:19
mr-richYou need to register a nick ... I'm off to bed ...04:20
mr-richjvcleave: no ... macbook runs lion ... nite04:21
Kubuntu_ALThanks. Perhaps we'll talk again.04:21
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PortizHello04:52
PortizMay I ask a question please?04:53
PortizMay I ask a question please?04:57
Portizit's about Unbutu04:57
PortizI am not asking for money! It's just a simple question05:00
yupitsmeUh huh?05:01
yupitsmeWell maybe you should consider a different material.05:02
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PortizJesus! You guys are so helpfull, but you know what Thank your help! What goes around come arouind. HJabe a good night05:07
yupitsmeClearly you should use cotton because it is a breathabe material05:09
yupitsmeYeah this channel is crowded but what are you gonna do it's here05:10
ugribugrihello07:29
ugribugrianybody ?07:29
ugribugrican help meŰ?07:29
ugribugrihyű07:31
ugribugrican you help me07:31
Gus81sorry, i speak spanish07:32
ugribugrisorry ombre i can speak only english ang hungarian07:33
Gus81mmm... do you need?07:34
Gus81ugribugri: a ver, decime... En que te pudeo ayudar? sorry :(07:36
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Guest24487посоветуйте IRC клиент, pidgin уже второй день не может соедениться, снес07:59
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CokeAddicthil08:19
CokeAddictany one here?08:19
lordievaderHey CokeAddict08:25
ishanhello08:29
CokeAddictwhee can I download the wallpapers that come with the extra wallpapers pack of Kubuntu?08:33
lordievaderCokeAddict: Try kde-look.org, they are probably on there somewhere.08:36
CokeAddictlordievader, it is impossible to find them...08:37
CokeAddictlordievader, if you help me with the package name, I can download it08:37
lordievaderCokeAddict: There are a few packages with wallpapers: kde-wallpapers, kde-wallpapers-default, plasma-wallpapers-addon, kdewallpapers08:39
rorkCokeAddict:  If you install the packages most wallpapers are stored in subdirectories of /usr/share/wallpapers/ the plasma wallpapers are a bit more scattered in the kde directories: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/i386/plasma-wallpapers-addons/filelist08:47
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BluesKajHi all11:09
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sky100hi13:08
sky100how to install adobe reader in kubuntu 12.0413:08
fastasky100: search in software center for adobe.13:10
fastasky100: but I would suggest okular.13:10
fastasky100: okular is probably the best PDF viewer now.13:10
sky100fasta : ok , ty13:11
fastaPerhaps there are some patented algorithms in adobe which makes certain things look better, but I really don't notice the difference.13:12
BluesKajsky100, okular is installed by default13:12
fastaBluesKaj: is there some easy interface to setup NFS?13:13
fastaBluesKaj: otherwise I will just do it manually.13:13
BluesKajacroread used to be an adobe reader , but I haven't seen it in a while13:13
sky100BluesKaj,  ok13:13
BluesKajfasta, I have a simple guide saved ..hang on13:14
BluesKajfasta, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo13:15
IdleOnethunderbird is refusing to move more then one email at a time :/13:17
IdleOnehmm, might be because I am on +113:17
torocHi13:20
BluesKajIdleOne, I'm on 12.10 , sending or receiving ?13:20
torocis there a problem with the quantal extre repo?13:20
BluesKajtoroc, no , it's not available for quantal packages yet13:21
IdleOneBluesKaj: no no, when I try to move to a folder it doesn't do anything13:22
torocoh ok is there any alternative?13:22
torocfor example language support iceweasel and so on?13:22
IdleOneBluesKaj: I'm trying to do some cleaning of my inboxes13:22
tobiasBoraHello !13:23
tobiasBoraI'd like to programm a Kwin script, and I saw here :13:23
tobiasBorahttp://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/KWin/Scripting13:23
tobiasBorathat if we hit wm console, we have the Desktop Console which will appear.13:24
tobiasBoraHovewer, I've nothing.13:24
tobiasBoraHow could I open this console ?13:24
BluesKajIdleOne, sorry I can't replicate your issue ..I just moved some to another folder from the inbox without a problem13:24
IdleOneBluesKaj: I can move one at a time, multiple emails at once it is chocking13:25
IdleOnenot a big issue as I don't have that many to move but it can be time consuming for someone with hundreds of emails I suppose.13:26
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IdleOneBluesKaj: also it does not seem to be running my filter rules13:30
BluesKajIdleOne, just moved 10 emails into another folder in t-bird without a problem13:30
tstaerkhi, init=/bin/bash as boot parameter does not work for me13:31
BluesKajtobiasBora, I tried that tutorial as well, none of the commands work for me either ...it' must be old or they've forgotten to list an app or other command that's required13:32
tobiasBoraBluesKaj: Thanks. And what is the news way to programm with Kwin ?13:33
BluesKajtobiasBora, I don't know offhand, sorry :(13:34
tobiasBoraBluesKaj: ok, thanks.13:34
BluesKajtobiasBora, after running the quickstart commands in the krunner, open your browser , there should be a script loaded at the top in FF13:54
tobiasBoraBluesKaj: i don't see anything... But I've kwin 4.8, so maybe it is why it doesn't works !13:58
BluesKajtobiasBora, 4.8 is default in 12.04 ... I found another tutorial saying "wm console" in krunner should open a kwin console but that doesn't work for me either14:02
tobiasBoraBluesKaj: somebody told me that a project with the 4.9 version exists : projectNeon for kubuntu14:23
tobiasBoraand a beta version will release on Monday14:23
tobiasBoraBut I found a function, and I'd like to build it with the keypad keys, but it doesn't work with the keypad. Do you know why ?14:24
BluesKajtobiasBora, no I don't ... my sripting knowledge is limited as it is , so trying to run scripts in Kwin is beyond my scope.14:29
tobiasBoraOh, BluesKaj, it's not a script, only a global shortcut. But binding with numpad function isn't possible...14:30
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gul!ping15:01
ubottuanother contentless ping... sigh...15:01
renosisHi, I want to upgrade to gimp 2.8, but whenever I try to use apt-get install gimp it says I have the latest version... but the version I have is 2.6. I take it gimp 2.8 hasn't been added to the repository yet? What is the best way to go about getting the latest update?15:22
DarthFrogrenosis:  http://www.tuxgarage.com/2012/05/install-gimp-2-8-in-precise-and-oneiric.html15:24
renosisAh, thanks!15:24
renosisawesome, that did it... thanks again DarthFrog!15:30
BluesKajjust checking some indows IRC Clients , this Mononchrome is very muchlike mirc or xchat but very configurable ...no default colours etc or serverlists16:23
BluesKajthis would be a nice client for experienced IRC users on linux16:24
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jvcleaveok - day 2 of trying to install on the macbook :)16:44
jvcleaveso since xorg.conf is deprecated apparently what is the modern approach to making this change? (point 3) http://scottlinux.com/2011/06/05/install-linux-mint-11-on-macbook-pro-82/16:45
kristjan_Hello17:13
kristjan_i made clean installation of kubuntu 12.0417:13
kristjan_i updated wireless drivers , but i can not connect to wireless network17:13
kristjan_wired connection is ok17:14
kristjan_it wont show any wireless networks and i can not check enable wireless17:15
kristjan_any help?17:15
spacebug-KDE does not play any of the notification sounds. If I try the little play button next to the sound it is supposed to play it's still silent.17:29
elvenfighterspacebug-: there must be an issue with priority of sound cards17:54
elvenfighterspacebug-: or even with the audio driver you're using17:55
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spacebug-elvenfighter: I thought that also so I disabled my internal soundcard in BIOS, still the same. I have sound otherwise just not the notifications18:09
douglhow long is kubuntu 12.04 good for?18:09
spacebug-supported five years18:09
douglerr - shelf life of kubuntu 12.04 - lol18:10
douglspacebug-, thanks18:10
douglI think I am gonna replace my ubuntu 10.10 with kubuntu 12.0418:10
douglyep gonna do up a USB install before I commit a new HD for it... suggestions welcom18:12
elvenfighterspacebug-: is pulseaudio running? Is the priority of your discrete sound card higher than priority of internal card on system notifications ?18:18
spacebug-pulse is runing yes and my card I want to use is the top most one in every place in phonon settings18:19
douglarret?18:19
elvenfighter spacebug-: also try to run pavucontrol, system notifications might have been muted from there18:19
elvenfighterspacebug-: there's an opportunity to block notificaions via KMix, try to look there18:23
spacebug-elvenfighter: the 'even sounds' i kmix is at the buttom but I cannot change it18:28
elvenfighterspacebug-: Do you mean the slider is inactive? Or can you give a screenshot?18:34
spacebug-I see the slider but I cannot move it. Yes wait18:36
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spacebug-elvenfighter: http://spacebug.se/filer/snapshot1.png18:38
spacebug-elvenfighter: you know what, pavucontrol fixed it18:43
spacebug-there I could shange the volume18:43
spacebug-;)18:43
elvenfighterspacebug-: glad you've coped with it :)18:45
spacebug-;) Thanks for the help18:46
douglarretWhen  attempt to boot the 12.04 amd64 mi machine hangs with artifact on scree and kb & mouse are no responsive  - ani suggestions?18:58
elvenfighterdouglarret, previous versions worked well?19:01
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ForgeAushey uh libpython2.6 is outdated it seems right? so how do I get something running that requires it? (makehuman for blender)19:09
cba123I've been having a weird issue where my Contextual Menus get frozen if they don't load right the first time.  It stays until I close the program that I started them with.  Any idea how I can do close the contextual menu without closing the program?  Or are they handled by the program not KDE?19:13
kodomohi folks - is there any way to get a battery applet to load into trayer on kubuntu?19:14
douglarretelven  ubnt  10.10 installed flawlesslee19:14
douglarretkebord does not work onthis machine19:14
douglarretinstalling 12.04 intext mode19:14
kodomoI'm using xmonad and would like to avoid loading the plasma panel19:15
kodomoOn Ubuntu, there used to be gnome-power-manager - but that one's not available on kubuntu, it seems... so is there a replacement for non-KDE users?19:16
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kodomoany non-kde users around?19:19
ForgeAusuh this is kubuntu19:19
kodomo(I admit that's a funny question on #kubuntu :P19:19
ForgeAuseveryone here is a kde user lol19:19
kodomo*sigh* - so I have to wait for xmonadbuntu to find answers to my questions? ;)19:20
cba123kodomo, I have to ask, you did google first right?  I searched for "battery applet for kde" and have like 5 that I see19:22
ForgeAusdo you think it could it be a problem installing the oeneric package?19:22
douglarretdo nvidia drvers get installed when you install 12.04 in txt mode?19:22
kodomocbathat's not exactly what I'm looking for... I'm loo,king for "battery applit in kubuntu 11.10 working with trayer which may be started independently of KDE"19:27
kodomo(sorry for typos - I'm on a train ride with about 1.5s latency on the echo  for of my input ;) )19:28
kodomocba123: that's not exactly what I'm looking for (see right above - tab didn't work ;) )19:29
kodomoI'm part of the few Linux users which suffer from the tendency to build distributions around window managers ;)19:30
douglarretInstallation step failed - Hmmm, looking for some suggestions or guidance installing 12.04 on my desktop computer in text mode :)19:34
douglarretskipping ssh software seems to work19:36
douglarretseems kubuntu is not as popular as ubuntu - why is that?19:37
lordievaderdouglarret: Not sure why, but I think it is because canonical is pushing ubuntu more than kubuntu. And they got the money.19:39
douglarretlordievader - always the money messin shtuff up.19:41
lordievaderdouglarret: These are just my thoughts... They don't have to be true ;)19:41
douglarretlordievader, agreed :)19:41
kodomohm - is anyone aware of a kubuntu channel covering kubuntu in the sense of a distribution (package lists) rather than KDE?19:45
douglarrethow can I get a console login on a fresh install of 12.04 with no x?20:26
ChrisEdoesn't it just boot up to a login prompt if you don't have X installed?20:26
douglarretx crashes my box20:27
ChrisEah, you want it to boot without trying to run X?20:28
ChrisEhave you tried picking recovery mode from the grub menu?20:28
douglarretgonna try that now - sec20:29
GalvatronIf X crashes, starting without it won't solve anything20:29
GalvatronWhat's your GPU and drivers?20:29
douglarretwas gonna try to install nvidia drivers for my nvidia card20:30
GalvatronBest use the latest (295.53) from X-Updates/X-SWAT20:32
douglarretthanks20:33
GalvatronWhat card, by the way?20:33
douglarretgt22020:34
lorddeltaHello? I'm using Kubuntu, and I'm having issues with KWin. I asked in the kwin channel, someone thought my issue was a lack of nvidia glx. It seems these packages were removed from the ubuntu repos awhile ago. Are they any solutions to kwin/nvidia opengl compositing issues at this time? I kinda like the effects kwin has to offer, but its nigh unusable as is.20:44
GalvatronWhat card and drivers?20:47
lorddeltaNvidia Geforce 9600 M GS...sorry I may have fixed my problem: does anyone else have the show-paint plugin? If they could verify that the desktop looks like its having a siezure when being used...20:49
lorddeltaI always assumed I had some horrible driver problem, lol20:50
GalvatronWhat do you need the paint for?20:50
lorddeltaI don't!20:50
lorddeltaI had no idea it was on.20:50
lorddeltaSweet. :D20:50
lorddeltaFixed my problem, sorry to waste your time!20:51
stephello20:51
GalvatronNow I have a problem. I was plying with a QtCurve theme andafter getting back to Oxygen some element, like Krunner, the shutdown//logout window, or the frames showing the position and size of a window after dragging it to a screen's border/corner, are still themed with it.21:03
GalvatronI've already removed all the possible stuff related to this theme i had on HDD, especially in the KDE's configuration folders, but still no luck21:04
GalvatronI know i could just delete the whole of KDE's config and re-configure it, but It would take a lot of time and so I don't feel like tring.21:05
douglarretmy wobbly windows dont work :(21:16
douglarrethow do I run a command everytime I login?21:28
Sentyneldouglarret: system settings > startup and shutdown > autostart21:29
fastaWhere does the KDE time widget gets its idea of time?21:32
fastaNever mind.21:38
fastaI think it's buggy when there is a slightly wrong system configuration, but it works here now.21:39
douglarretSentynel, thanks21:39
douglfinally got a decent install of kubuntu but my fonts look ugly and I dont get any effects on my desktop - any suggestions? (googling now)21:54
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douglwhere do you change the number of desktops on the desktop cube?22:09
MAMOHTHi guys. I have install Faenza icon theme, but icon for Leave -> Restart display incorrect. Question: "How to change this icon and for future any other icon in icon pack in KDE".22:24
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douglarretwhere do my kde desktops configs reside? when I try to log in my desktop filickers then I go back to the login screen all the time - how can I default my kde setting to try to resolve this?23:30
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Snowhogdouglarret: Sounds like a KDM Login loop issue. From the KDM login screen, Alt+F1 and login to the console. Check your space stats with df -hTtext4 (if your file system is ext4). What is reported as space available under root?23:43

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