[00:21] <penguin42> well, dads machine mostly ok - although wth his flash is crashing reliably, every time is a separate question
[00:28] <daftykins> boo flash
[00:31] <penguin42> indeed, but he does watch things like news.bbc - but I've never seen it crash like this before; it's not even giving a grey block; it's just not appearing at all, not even taking space up - and there is an entry appearing each time in .mozilla/Crash Reports
[00:34] <daftykins> tried a clean FF profile?
[00:36] <penguin42> no, but it was a fresh install
[03:44] <kaushal> Hi
[03:44] <kaushal> I am using chrome on ubuntu 11.10, I am unable to launch jnlp file. Any known issue?
[07:13] <MartijnVdS> My X ! Ti's broken!
[07:13] <MartijnVdS> Random characters and parts of windows are disappearing
[07:15] <MartijnVdS> apparently ran out of graphics memory (according to xorg.0.log)
[09:11] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:17] <directhex> yes, it is
[09:18]  * brobostigon point at the rain outside.
[09:18] <brobostigon> points*
[09:19] <directhex> rain shmain. sounds like today might be the day we get to leave hospital
[09:19] <brobostigon> :)
[09:26] <directhex> i'm going to go buy some nappies. woo, nappies.
[09:27] <brobostigon> lol
[09:54] <DaveMorris1> Hi all,  I'm trying to upgrade from Lucid to Pecise (desktop) and it can't find the release.  I've checked /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and it is set to lts, update and upgrade to the latest lucid.  But still get "No new release found" after running sudo do-release-upgrade
[10:13] <MartijnVdS> you might need to run
[10:13] <MartijnVdS> hmm
[10:13] <MartijnVdS> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades#Upgrade_from_11.10_to_12.04_LTS_and_10.04_LTS_to_12.04_LTS
[10:36] <DaveMorris1> I needed to use the -d flag
[10:36] <DaveMorris1> since it won't appear as an upgrade until the .1 release
[11:05] <kvarley> Long shot
[11:06] <kvarley> But what could a 3 pin cable be coming out of my psu?
[11:06] <Nafallo> kvarley: fan monitoring?
[11:07] <kvarley> Nafallo: For the PSU's fan?
[11:08] <kvarley> There is one coming out of the ATX power connector for the motherboard too which is weird
[13:06] <MartijnVdS> Everyone is at/watching/celebrating the jubilee?
[13:09] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: me,sort of.. I was going to swim ahead of them on the Thames... but the water's too cold ;)
[13:09] <SuperEngineer> so I'm watchin on magic picture box
[13:10] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: BBC One HD here
[13:10] <SuperEngineer> [& celebrating by raising a glass]
[13:10] <SuperEngineer> BBC LD here
[13:10]  * MartijnVdS drinks some tea, despite being Dutch
[13:10] <brobostigon> SuperEngineer: reminds me of the chap that interrupted the oxford/cambridge boat race.
[13:10] <SuperEngineer> ;)
[13:10] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: that _wasn't_ SuperEngineer ?
[13:11] <SuperEngineer> [nope, that wasn't me]
[13:11] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: i doubt it. :)
[13:11] <SuperEngineer> they seek him here, they seek him there.....
[13:11] <MartijnVdS> if he's really a super engineer, his submarine would've worked properly? ;)
[13:12] <SuperEngineer> SuperEngineers don'rt need submarines
[13:12] <SuperEngineer> [just a spell checker ;)]
[13:13] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Liam Proven] A handy postcard-sized guide to programming languages - http://liam-on-linux.livejournal.com/29693.html
[13:16] <SuperEngineer> commentator remarks "The Duke of Edinburgh just out of shot"!  Is the duke shooting the oideons or the noisy ones in the crowd?
[13:16] <SuperEngineer> *pidgeons
[13:17] <SuperEngineer> ooo nice steam train salute
[13:58] <SuperEngineer> oo lots of wet stuff falling from sky here at home - hope it doesn't head London's way
[14:08] <MartijnVdS> https://twitter.com/#!/Queen_UK
[14:12] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: SuperEngineer laughs
[14:19] <AlanBell> o/ popey and czajkowski
[14:19] <AlanBell> we can see the window you are looking out of
[14:27] <SuperEngineer> oi! that's just posing
[14:33] <AlanBell> https://twitter.com/#!/czajkowski pictures from Millbank
[14:36] <Flashtek> o/
[14:40] <SuperEngineer> Queenie says "Dear God, One's anthem clearly states 'God save the Queen' NOT 'God freeze the Queen'". One could ged pee'd off, you know.
[14:42] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: That is why the Queen values the commonwealth so much, well not Canada, but most of the places are warmer and drier
[14:48] <MartijnVdS> Oh look, there's parliament. Ready cannons.
[14:48] <brobostigon> lol
[14:48] <SuperEngineer> o! not aiming at me you fools, this is one's special day!
[14:48] <MartijnVdS> Queen_UK's twitter account++
[14:50] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: loved the "cut glass with..." tweet  ;)
[14:51] <SuperEngineer> [made I giggle]
[14:54]  * SuperEngineer congrats National Theatre... that was impressive
[14:57] <AlanBell> nice horse wasn't it
[14:57] <SuperEngineer> AlanBell: yup
[15:38] <SuperEngineer> well that was impressive.. but none of more so than Britannia launch being saluted by Britannia choo choo on bridge
[15:38] <SuperEngineer> hey - who inserted the "of" in that - doh!
[15:41] <Azelphur> think I might buy a GTX 680, I hear they solve all the quad screen issues
[15:41] <Azelphur> I asked on nvnews, and an nvidia rep literally just replied with "Yes." xD
[15:48] <SuperEngineer> How many roads must a man walk down? None sir, One goes by boat!
[15:56] <SuperEngineer> ahmm:  AlanBell,popey & czajkowski - now go get out there in the rain and enjoy it ;)
[16:02] <AlanBell> SuperEngineer: I am sat at home watching the telly
[16:07] <SuperEngineer> ok AlanBell - you win
[16:08] <SuperEngineer> [so it's just "the guilty two" then... go get wet folks!
[16:10] <SuperEngineer> it also explains the regular tweets... thouht you'd developed a "secretary script" ;)
[16:14] <Azelphur> If I buy something from inside EU I don't get charged customs right?
[16:24] <BigRedS> Azelphur: nope
[16:24] <BigRedS> well, I never have and I understand that to be deliberate
[16:24] <Azelphur> cool :)
[16:34] <SuperEngineer> Just noticed - a few of the boats in the jubilee regatta are dipping *way* below their load lines - as in unsafe load
[16:36] <dogmatic69> anyone used / looked at free nas? http://www.freenas.org/
[16:36] <dogmatic69> looks pretty good
[16:53] <SuperEngineer> Land of hope & glory" in the rain - against all odds, & now Rule Brittania - makes ya proud!
[17:00] <SuperEngineer> oh YES - one likes this last trick! Now clap! even Her Maj is smiling.
[17:04] <SuperEngineer> ...and that is how you do pageantry!
[17:05] <dogmatic69> Prince Philip was doing a bit of foot tapping to that track
[17:07] <brobostigon> they were all getting jiggy, as my mum put it.
[17:31] <czajkowski> evil rain
[17:37] <penguin42> czajkowski: I think she may have noticed the irony in long may she rain over us
[17:43] <SuperEngineer> and to bring everybody back to reality: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18316130#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa
[17:44] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: Are nigerian passenger planes known for being airworthy?
[17:47] <SuperEngineer> penguin42: no - but not for crashing into buildings in Lagos while carrying 162 passengers
[17:50] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: Well, actually http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_on_commercial_airliners_grouped_by_location#Nigeria   you're right, they normally don't hit the buildings
[17:52] <SuperEngineer> penguin42 you are missing a soul - why not hunt for it on Wikisoul
[17:53] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: I tried, they didn't have one that would fit
[17:54] <SuperEngineer> i guessed that
[17:57] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: Lots of people die every day, it's a bad thing of course it is, but I'm not going to be too surprised by a 3rd world airliner crashing; there are over 2000 people killed on the roads in the UK each year - you can't feel bad about every death
[17:57] <penguin42> (* unless you were the guy flying/servicing the aircraft....)
[18:00]  * SuperEngineer wonders if banning bigotry  racism could be extended to comments such as the above
[18:12] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: Apologies - my intention is not to offend; but I really can't let every bad thing in the world upset me; there are too many bad things
[19:30] <popey> evening
[19:31] <directhex> howdy
[19:34] <penguin42> evenin
[19:40] <MartijnVdS> \o
[19:40] <BigRedS> g'morning!
[19:40] <MartijnVdS> CM 7.2-RC3 is out
[19:40] <directhex> android :(
[19:41] <MartijnVdS> directhex: WinPhone user?
[19:41] <directhex> yes!
[19:41] <MartijnVdS> directhex: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo
[19:45] <Laney> meow
[19:45] <Laney> popey: is there a unity release schedule?
[19:45] <MartijnVdS> Laney: ?
[19:45] <Laney> also how was MB?
[19:45] <Laney> if I remembered it was flotilla day I might have gone :(
[19:45]  * Laney gnaws on MartijnVdS 
[19:45]  * MartijnVdS runs away
[19:45] <MartijnVdS> darn zombies
[19:46] <directhex> i was in the hopsital :(
[19:47] <MartijnVdS> uh oh..
[19:47]  * Laney rubs delicious marinade on directhex 
[19:47] <Laney> are they coming home soon? :(
[19:50] <mattt> directhex: hospital why ?
[19:52] <directhex> Laney, was going to be today, but they revoked access due to blood pressure
[19:55] <popey> Laney: no, but there will be soon
[19:56] <Laney> ok
[19:56] <Laney> I got all the patches together to fix the current ftbfs and was wondering if it's worthwhile uploading
[19:58] <czajkowski> directhex: what did you have a boy or girl?
[19:58]  * czajkowski waves at popey how did ye get on at Vauxhall?
[19:58] <directhex> czajkowski, boy
[19:58] <popey> Laney: oooh! for unity on quantal?
[19:59] <Laney> ja
[19:59] <czajkowski> directhex: lovely! name?
[19:59] <popey> love you
[19:59] <directhex> czajkowski, nathan
[19:59] <Laney> i think nux needs bumping to use the new boost too
[19:59] <popey> let didrocks know pls
[19:59] <Laney> but that's no-change
[19:59] <Laney> aye
[19:59] <popey> yes, there is that
[19:59] <Laney> some of the patches were his too
[19:59] <Laney> i'll whack it up once the crumble is in
[20:00] <Laney> om nom rhubarb
[20:00] <popey> he was working on the ftbfs last week
[20:00] <popey> nom!
[20:00] <popey> and parp
[20:00] <popey> czajkowski: that was most odd
[20:03] <popey> czajkowski: see my fb/G+ status about it
[21:09] <dwatkins> http://www.themagpi.com/ looks interesting, popey - in case you hvn't seen it already
[22:01] <Steve__> Hi, I'm new to Ubuntu
[22:02] <Steve__> I was wondering if it is possible to uninstall the IM service included with 12.04
[22:03] <Steve__> There's a lot of web-based add-ons included with ubuntu I don't want to keep
[22:03] <Steve__> I think the chat software is called pidgon
[22:56] <bigcalm> Beep
[22:57] <penguin42> Beeeee  Beep!
[22:57] <bigcalm> DFS >_
[22:57] <penguin42> *.
[22:58] <bigcalm> That's about as much as I remember without looking things up
[23:05] <dwatkins> I thought my Tomtom needed new imagery, so I put this on it from a BBC Micro... http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7230/7206087872_0265a13252.jpg
[23:06] <penguin42> what's the res on the tomtom?
[23:06] <dwatkins> I think mine is 320x240, penguin42
[23:07] <penguin42> close to Mode1 :-)
[23:07] <bigcalm> Heh, cute
[23:08] <dwatkins> yeah, I imagine you could run an emulator in theory, but you'd need some kind of keyboard
[23:08] <penguin42> does it do bluetooth ?
[23:08] <dwatkins> yeah, I think so
[23:09] <penguin42> well there you go :-)
[23:09] <dwatkins> indeed, although mine doesn't have an SD Card slot, so I'd use one which the storage can be replaced in.
[23:09]  * penguin42 wonders why Tomtom's are still going given all the mobiles these days
[23:10] <dwatkins> I prefer having a discrete device to do navigation that's separate from my phone.
[23:10] <bigcalm> Doesn't rely upon a 'net connection
[23:10] <dwatkins> Also, I don't want to have to download maps as I go (although I could install the Tomtom app on my phone, all 2 GB of it)
[23:10] <bigcalm> Can hook into traffic situations
[23:10] <dwatkins> The app is quite expensive, I think.
[23:11] <dwatkins> also, it's not compatible with my phone.
[23:14] <gord> you can make google maps cache areas now
[23:14] <gord> so you just cache the areas you are gonna be in often
[23:21]  * hamitron doesn't know which areas to cache, that he will get lost in
[23:21] <dwatkins> yeah, I live in Scotland but don't know the area, so I'd prefer to have the entire country already on a device.
[23:22] <hamitron> same
[23:22] <hamitron> about having it all there I mean
[23:22]  * bigcalm likes getting lost :)
[23:22] <hamitron> get lost then ;)
[23:23] <ali1234> ovi maps has always been able to do that
[23:23] <ali1234> if you have a big enough SD card you can put ALL the maps on it
[23:23] <dwatkins> The other difference between my Tomtom and my phone is that the windscreen mount for the Tomtom works several orders of magnitude better than the one for my phone ;)
[23:23] <dwatkins> iirc the Tomtom app is £70.
[23:23] <hamitron> I tried ovi maps on a phone.....
[23:24] <hamitron> I had to travel at 50mph to get the directions given in time
[23:24] <hamitron> :/
[23:24] <dwatkins> in time? were you in a DeLorean, hamitron? ;)
[23:25] <hamitron> hehe
[23:26] <hamitron> best I've used on a phone is route66 on my ngage
[23:26] <dwatkins> ah, the iPhone Tomtom app is only £40...
[23:27] <hamitron> but never tried the stuff that needs net connection
[23:27] <hamitron> does that £40 lock the app to that phone?
[23:28] <dwatkins> no, the app is tied to your iTunes account, so you can install it on another iPhone no problem.
[23:28] <hamitron> is that the same for android apps?
[23:28] <dwatkins> I believe so, yes.
[23:28] <gbyers_> hamitron, yes
[23:28] <hamitron> that is something I guess
[23:28] <hamitron> :)
[23:29] <dwatkins> hmm, doesn't look like there's a UK Tomtom app yet for Android.
[23:29] <hamitron> :-o
[23:30]  * hamitron crosses off android phone on his wish list and writes "iphone"
[23:32]  * gbyers_ does not know why he is here it just logs him in automatically he is really in irc.twit.tv
[23:33] <hamitron> you can't hide the fact you love been here
[23:33] <hamitron> ;)
[23:33] <hamitron> a feature helps you out with that
[23:37] <gbyers_> hamitron, join us on irc.twit.tv
[23:38] <hamitron> why?
[23:38] <hamitron> I think I maybe got enough channels to troll already :)
[23:41] <gbyers_> you can join in on the tech chat hamitron with Leo Laporte Live
[23:42] <hamitron> who? ;/
[23:42]  * hamitron is too lazy to move, sorry
[23:50] <gbyers_> hamitron, have you never listendto this week in tech, tech news today , this week in google, FLOSS WEEKLY ?
[23:51] <dwatkins> I used to listen to TWiT and Security Now.
[23:51] <dogmatic69> how can I rename *.foo.bar to *.bar
[23:51] <dwatkins> dogmatic69: with a regexp and the 'rename' command.
[23:51] <gbyers_> dwatkins, its live now live.twit.tv
[23:51] <dwatkins> cool
[23:51] <stgraber> dogmatic69: rename "s/.foo.bar$/.bar/g" *
[23:51] <dogmatic69> find ./ -exec rename <something> ?
[23:52] <gbyers_> dwatkins, I think there is a show you would really like called floss weekly
[23:52] <dogmatic69> stgraber: thanks
[23:52] <dwatkins> thanks gbyers_, I'll check it out
[23:54] <dwatkins> I may go back and listen to Security Now from the beginning, as they explained TCP/IP from the ground upwards.
[23:54]  * penguin42 hands dwatkins a flock of pidgeons
[23:54] <penguin42> and a hawk
[23:54] <dwatkins> Network transport via avian carrier?
[23:55] <gbyers_> dwatkins, yea its where they talk about open source software  http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly
[23:55] <penguin42> dwatkins: Yep, the hawk lets you get used to retries