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uskerinehow can i make a service (nbd) being enabled by default during boot up?00:05
uskerinehow can i define which services are enabled by default?00:10
uskerineat boot time i would like to know how to enable/disable tftp, dnsmasq and nbd00:11
ThePendulumHey01:05
ThePendulumIs there a way to completely black-out (X)ubuntu until XBMC starts?01:06
ThePendulumSo I don't see a desktop before XBMC gets to start, and preferably no "Xubutu" splash screen?01:07
seb_How do I downgrade flash from 11 to 10.x ? the new version does not work with my computer.02:09
Unit193!crosspost | seb_02:11
ubottuseb_: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.02:11
ruienseb_ are you not able to completely uninstall flash via your package manager ( http://askubuntu.com/questions/43050/uninstalling-flash-plugin-completely ), and then install the version you want?02:14
seb_No Ubuntu software center brings me back to verson 11 , when I try to install version 10.x02:15
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xubuntu255hi06:46
xubuntu255what are the minimum system requirements for xubuntu 12.0406:47
xubuntu255nobody fucking knows huh?!?!?!?06:48
hobgoblinwhy don't you give people a chance to answer06:48
bazhang!language | xubuntu25506:48
ubottuxubuntu255: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.06:48
hobgoblinas it is I can't be bothered now - well done06:48
xubuntu255sorry thought this was empty06:48
xubuntu255really....06:49
hobgoblinwith 98 people in the channel06:49
hobgoblingood luck06:49
bazhangxubuntu255, no reason to curse06:49
xubuntu255okayokay.....just was expecting chatter06:49
bazhangchit chat in #xubuntu-offtopic xubuntu25506:50
xubuntu255anywho....i have a laptop with 256mb of ram and a 3ghz p406:50
bazhang!lubuntu | xubuntu25506:50
ubottuxubuntu255: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.06:50
bazhangor get more ram06:50
hobgoblinI'd +1 both those sentiments06:51
xubuntu255i just wanted to know....ram i dont have06:51
xubuntu255xu or lu is the question for me....06:52
xubuntu255i tried lu and i didnt like it missing right click menus06:52
xubuntu255xu looks more fuctional06:52
hobgoblinI'd try xubuntu then - but it will be less than snappy with that RAM06:53
xubuntu255well...i installed ubuntu on it and it never really fully booted...and i left it on all night,06:54
hobgoblinI am not surprised06:54
xubuntu255lol i know...i might go with lu cause its faster...but i like the way xu looks....i just need it to you know actually boot06:55
xubuntu255im going to use alt installer either way obvoiusly06:56
xubuntu255i could just install lu and then install xu's gui later right?06:57
xubuntu255change my desktop environment to xu's look.06:58
hobgoblinwhy not try a minimal install and build it up from there, might be better06:58
xubuntu255i have the hdd space....06:58
hobgoblinyou could do that - but if you install xubuntu-dekstop you'de be bakc where you started - so just install the minimum you can06:59
hobgoblinI don't knwo which xfce things you would need though - someone else will - but you'll have to wait and see06:59
xubuntu255but i could restart and switch my desktop envirement back to lxde if gnome runs to slow????07:00
hobgoblinlogout07:00
xubuntu255right....07:00
xubuntu255ya.07:00
hobgoblinand not gnome but xfce07:00
xubuntu255oh...sorry confused07:01
xubuntu255thanks07:02
xubuntu255appreciate your help....07:02
xubuntu175good morning07:13
hobgoblinit is07:14
xubuntu175I can not install 12.04, receiving message  via686a base address not set - upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr07:14
hobgoblinI've had that - usually it just carries one - I think you could add that line to the boot line when you start the live cd07:15
xubuntu175ok thank you i will try it07:18
xubuntu175bye07:18
hobgoblinwelcome07:19
uskerinehi, how can i install updates from command line?08:17
uskerineis it just apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?08:17
knomeyes08:17
knome(with sudo)08:17
uskerineis that exactly the same as the gui update manager (the red exclamation mark icon)08:17
uskerine?08:17
hobgoblinit does the same thing08:18
uskerinei got the following message while doing it:08:18
uskerine"The following packages hae been kept bacjk"08:18
uskerinelinux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic08:19
uskerinewhy?08:19
bolaparauskerine, use dist-upgrade instead of upgrade08:19
uskerinewhat is the difference?08:20
uskerinei am in 12.0408:20
uskerinewhat dist-upgrade does?08:20
bolaparait will pull in the held-back packages08:21
knomeuskerine, dist-upgrade upgrades packages that must be upgraded simultaneosly08:21
Unit193update only updates packages already installed, dist-upgrade will install new packages if needed.08:21
Unit193http://manpages.ubuntu.com/apt-get08:22
Unit193For more info08:22
uskerinewhat is recommended as regular server maintenance?08:23
Unit193Personally, I use dist-upgrade every day with no issues, but YMMV.08:23
bolaparaupgrade is a bit safer as it only upgrades what is currently installed.08:23
uskerineYMMV, what does that mean?08:24
bolaparabut i use dist-upgrade almost exclusively08:24
Unit193"Your mileage may vary"08:24
uskerinebut dist-upgrade will install only new packages required by upgrades of the existing ones, right?08:24
Unit193Yep, exactly.08:24
uskerineso it is reasonablily safe08:24
Sysibolapara: upgrade upgrades, dist-upgrade also installs new software, like kernel08:24
bolaparadist-upgrade can do things like remove dependencies which are no longer needed, install new packages08:25
bolaparaSysi, exactly08:25
uskerineso for example, in a fresh 12.04 installation08:25
uskerinewhy linux-headers-3.2.0-254 linux-headers-3.2.0-24-generic and linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic is being installed08:26
uskerineis it going to replace my kernel with 3.2?08:26
uskerinei have 3.2.0-2308:26
baizonits an upgrade08:26
knomeyou already have 3.208:26
baizonbugfixes for your 3.2 kernel08:26
uskerineok08:26
uskerinebugfixes are good as long as they do not break anything08:26
Sysiit doesn't replace, it installs new one parallel, it will be used on next boot08:27
uskerineok08:27
knomeuskerine, they shouldn't, but regressions are always possible with any upgrades08:27
baizonuskerine: if the new one doesnt work you can still boot from the old one08:27
uskerineok08:27
uskerinei have two xubuntu used as LTSP servers08:28
uskerinei would like to sync users created in one into the other one08:28
uskerineany recommendation?08:28
bolaparauskerine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication08:34
bolaparanon-trivial08:34
uskerinewhat about NIS, is it easier?08:34
bolaparathey are both non-trivial to setup and maintain.08:35
bolaparai mean, not difficult per se, just effort.  but it is very helpful if managing multiple servers08:36
bolaparaldap is much more modern of a system than nis is08:36
bolaparaif you have little experience, setups some test systems to play with it08:36
uskerinei installed nis a long time ago08:36
uskerinebut i don't remember too much about it08:36
uskerinewhat about rsync /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and /etc/group?08:37
bolaparathat sounds to me like a bad idea.  i'd rather setup ldap08:37
Sysiif you're using two machines for performance, you maybe should setup ltsp-cluster08:40
uskerinei am using two machines for redundancy rather than for performance08:41
uskerinewhat does ltsp-cluster in terms of user management for me?08:41
Sysiwell, with it you could use both machines and it doesn't seem very hard to set up, so kind of workaround08:44
uskerinebut if i add a new user08:45
uskerinewhere do i have to add it?08:45
fikrihi10:58
fikri im using xubuntu 12.0410:58
fikriis there anyone using it?10:58
pAt__fikri, you are honestly asking this in a xubuntu channel?11:11
fikriyes11:13
fikrithanks11:13
fikribe right back11:13
fikrii had some business to settle11:13
knomeSysi, congrats for kapsi11:33
SysiI got account within 15 minutes from making wish to join :P11:34
knomeheh, congrats for that too11:34
knometook me some days, but was okay because i had a plan how to migrate over *a month*11:34
fikriSo11:41
fikrihere i can ask some question if i had some problem about xbuntu?11:42
fikrior is there ubuntu geeks here?11:42
knome!ask11:44
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:44
fikriWhy Xubuntu cant find AT/AMD driver?11:57
SysiAdditional drivers dialog doesn't suggest it?11:58
fikrialready do it12:05
fikribut it say failed12:05
fikrialready do it few times12:05
fikribrb12:13
fikriwant to restartr12:13
fikrianyone from Msia here?12:34
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fikriI think XUbuntu had some problem with AMD Graphic14:36
fikriI already tried a few times using additional driver14:36
baizonwhat hardware?14:36
fikriBut after activate it14:37
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fikriit said14:37
fikriSorry, installation of this driver failed14:37
fikrilook at the log file for details /var/log/jockey.log14:37
baizonfikri: so download it from the homepage14:37
baizonand install from sources14:37
fikriATI/ AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver14:38
fikriis there AMD /ATI installer from the sources itself?14:39
baizonfikri: yes there is one14:41
baizonfikri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI14:41
fikriok14:51
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uskerinei have moved /etc/sudoers to /etc/sudoers.backup16:22
uskerineand now I no longer can do "sudo"16:22
uskerineis there any way to fix this up?16:22
Sysiboot to rescue mode and copy .backup back in the name of original16:23
uskerinehow do i boot in rescue mode?16:23
Sysiselect it in grub menu, hold shift when booting if you don't see it16:23
uskerineshift?16:24
uskerinerecovery mode?16:25
* drc just shakes his head and goes to get another cuppa....16:25
uskerinei got read-only file system16:25
uskerineSysi, any idea on how to copy the file back with the read-only filesystem?16:27
uskerine(actually mount shows / as "rw")16:28
felipemeehi16:45
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WerttiHello! How do I know whether I am running "Ubuntu" or "Xubuntu"? "cat /etc/*-release"C gives the same output on both systems.17:09
uskerineSwhichi is the "proper" way of shutdown xubuntu from command line while connected through ssh?17:09
uskerinewhichi is the "proper" way of shutdown xubuntu from command line while connected through ssh?17:10
uskerinewhich is the "proper" way of shutdown xubuntu from command line while connected through ssh?17:10
uskerinesorry17:10
Werttii would use "sudo poweroff", it works17:10
uskerineis that an organized "shutdown"?17:11
Werttiyes17:13
qinagaok this is one really quiet channel...xubuntu not very popular or what?17:30
pleia2this is a support channel, it's only used when people have problems/questions17:31
SysiI consider this quite active channel17:32
SysiIRC isn't really online even if it appears like it would be17:32
qinagapleia2:  one way to interpret your statement is to assume the xubuntu users don't really have a lot of problems with the distro... :)17:34
ChristopherNghello, is there anyway i can get pacman to work with xubuntu?17:34
ChristopherNgi really like the AUR and want to be able to use them17:34
aguitelno17:35
aguitelinstall archlinux with xfce417:36
ChristopherNgaguitel: yes but i would like to maintain the xubuntu link17:40
pleia2it doesn't work, it's a completely different infrastructure, if you want the xubuntu themes the project for that is at http://shimmerproject.org/17:41
aguitelwhat link ??17:44
ChristopherNg+ignore +PARTS +JOINS +NICKS +QUITS18:18
Sysialmost18:19
Unit193/18:19
ChristopherNgyeah it was a typo18:19
Unit193Nicks could be handy if you are talking to someone.18:20
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uskerinehi, which service do i have to restart to get the system re-read /etc/network/interfaces?20:28
cypher-neoHello, I just installed Xubuntu 12.04. I'm having an issue. Every time that I restart my computer, the top panel does not seem to save my preferences. When it loads after a restart or update, all the elements on the panel are shuffled around.20:49
cypher-neoHow do I make then stick in one place?20:49
cypher-neoPrimarily it appears that one Seperator I placed in the panel does not load.20:51
cypher-neoAny ideas on how to keep the Seperator there?20:51
cypher-neoAnyone?20:52
dooglushi #xubuntu.  I installed ubuntu 11.04 yesterday, then installed package xfce on top of it.  I'm missing a bunch of icons.  and idea what package I might need?20:54
pimperledooglus: install the xubuntu-desktop package20:54
doogluspimperle: I don't want all those apps20:54
pimperleit's a metapackage that will pull in all dependencies for a full xubuntu installation20:54
Sysidooglus: install tango icon theme, if you already have gnome icon theme20:55
pimperlethen you could install all its requirements manually and skip those you do not want20:55
doogluspimperle: here's what it would pull in though: http://privatepaste.com/dab789b4ff20:56
dooglusSysi: I have the tango icon theme - I guess it's part of ubuntu20:56
cypher-neoHello. I installed Xubuntu 12.04. Got an issue. Every time the computer needs to restart, the top panel does not save... so on a restart every element in the panel is either in a different location or missing. Can anyone help?20:57
doogluslooks like <xubuntu-icon-theme is what I need20:57
pimperledooglus: i have no idea, which packge contains the missing icons. why not install everything except the packages you sure know aren't at fault? that's what i'd do. :)20:57
doogluspimperle: I pay through the nose for downloads20:58
pimperleouch20:58
dooglus$300 last month!20:58
cypher-neoCan anyone answer me, please?21:05
Sysicypher-neo: you should probably try completely wiping your settings, log out, press Ctrl Alt F6 and login to console, rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4 ; rm -rf ~/.cache21:08
lucky___hi all21:28
lucky___I cant get my system to boot21:29
lucky___anyone have any expertise in boot issues?21:30
drclucky___: Then throw it away...it's obvious from all the details you've told us that it will never work.21:31
drci.e., a few details might help.21:31
lucky___I have 12.4 xfce 64 bit21:32
lucky___It has never displayed any boot info21:33
lucky___now just passes post and runs a blank screen21:33
lucky___ctrl-alt-del are the3 only key combos that do anything21:34
lucky___I thought this should be a simple issue21:39
mongylucky___,  you might need nomodeset21:39
mongy!nomodeset21:39
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter21:39
lucky___pardon "nomodeset?21:39
lucky___thank you21:40
lucky___I  looked up the link for "nomodeset"21:45
lucky___how woud i set that up using the original live disk21:45
stripehi all is this the xubuntu help channel?22:02
GridCubeyes22:03
stripethanks GridCube22:03
GridCube!ask | stripe22:04
ubottustripe: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:04
GridCube:)22:04
stripenvidia graphics tearing, gts450 card, 295.53 driver any ideas?22:06
StormStrikesCan anyone lend assistance in setting up a shared folder.  It worked fine under vanilla Ubuntu, but is not under Xubuntu22:13
StormStrikesI have a folder set up in which I can scan from my printer and save it to my home directory (folder named Scanner) but when I set up the printer it says it has no write permissions22:14
GridCube!faq | StormStrikes22:14
ubottuStormStrikes: Lists of common questions and answers about Xubuntu can be found at http://xubuntu.org/news/tag/faq/. See also: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions22:14
GridCubemmmh that link is wrong22:14
StormStrikesyeah, I just got a page not found22:15
GridCubeStormStrikes, http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1204-precise/22:15
GridCubefaq 122:15
StormStrikesThanks.  I have gvfs-backends installed.22:16
GridCubeso it doesnt work?22:16
StormStrikesI also have the samba gui installed and the folder is completely open.  I can see and write to it from my other computer. Just not from the printer22:17
holsteinStormStrikes: you cant see or write to what from the printer?22:17
StormStrikesRight.  When I scan a page it says it cannot write to the folder Ive set up to save the scan to.22:18
StormStrikesI had it set up under Ubuntu and it worked perfectly, but for some reason it cannot write to it under Xubuntu22:18
holsteinStormStrikes: xubuntu *is* ubuntu, so i would just take some time and tweak.. im sure you'll sort out how to get what you need22:19
StormStrikesWhen I run a test from the printers web server, it tests fine, sees the folder, but tells me it has no write permissions22:19
holsteinStormStrikes: i usually find samba issues are permissions errors22:19
StormStrikesWell yeah, I understand that, however, when I right click a folder in Ubuntu (Nautilus) I have all the share options there, but thats not so under Xubuntu with Thunar22:20
holsteinStormStrikes: user nautilus if you prefer22:20
StormStrikesHmmm, that I have not tried, guess I could give that a shot.22:20
GridCubeusing nautilus on xubuntu can bring lots of problems22:20
holsteinyup22:21
StormStrikesoh really?  Well crap, LOL22:21
holsteinnautilus is just making some changes that you can make22:21
GridCubeStormStrikes, have you tried gigolo?22:22
StormStrikesI even tried using iftop to see what name the printer was using to send that request to write.22:22
StormStrikesNo, I have not tried gigolo yet.22:22
StormStrikeslet me look at that.22:22
holsteini would just refer to the samba wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba and use gigolo as GridCube suggests22:22
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GridCube!hello esmth22:53
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esmthim installin xubuntu on a macbook pro22:54
GridCube:D nice22:54
esmthu play minecraft?22:54
GridCubeno i do not22:54
esmthoh its fun22:54
GridCubetheres a channel for minecrafters #minecraft22:54
GridCube:) i know i used to play a few years ago22:55
esmthi know haha22:55
esmthnice22:55
GridCubeesmth, if you just want to chatter would you mind going to #xubuntu-offtopic, this channel is for support :)22:55
esmthok22:55
StormStrikesWell no luck with gigolo.  It too sees the folder, but is not letting me connect.  When I add my password and click connect it just wipes it out and does nothing.22:58
GridCubeare you trying to connecto a windows share that has a password for sure?22:58
GridCubei mean sometimes windows computers dont use a password22:59
GridCubei don't know how thats handled22:59
StormStrikesOkay, had not thought of that, let me try real quick.22:59
StormStrikesthats not working either.22:59
GridCubemmhm22:59
GridCubeStormStrikes, its not like i dont want to help, but i dont know how to, maybe you will get better help asking on #samba23:01
StormStrikessorry to be such a nuisance.  I just didnt expect this issue working with Xubuntu, LOL.  I thought it worked perfectly with Ubuntu, so I should have no issues there.23:01
StormStrikesNo I understand.23:01
GridCubefor many people it just works23:01
StormStrikesYeah, it seems like a simple thing.  In Ubuntu I just right clicked, shared and was good to go, LOL.23:02
StormStrikesAnd its not like the printer doesnt see the folder, it does, just cant write to it.23:03
GridCubemmmmmmmmmmmaybe its on read only mode23:06
StormStrikesYeah, thats what I thought.  But I set the folder to be read/write by others in the permissions23:07
GridCubemmmhm, maybe... you are not part of the samba users group?23:08
StormStrikesNope, checked that too.  I wasnt initially, but added myself after I found that I wasnt23:09
StormStrikesIm leaning heavily that its a samb configuration issue, but Im not sure what.  Ive looked at the smb.conf file and do not see anything popping out at me.23:10
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StormStrikesHmmm, go figure, the samba users file, smbusers is empty.23:13
StormStrikesBut Im not sure that is it though.  That would result in the printer telling me the credentials are wrong and thats not what its saying.  It just says it cant write to the specified folder23:14
StormStrikesI guess the better question, then, would be to ask if anyone has an HP OfficeJet Pro 8600 setup in Xubuntu and can scan to a network folder.23:24
chelzStormStrikes: i've never scanned stuff on linux but everyone says sane is the tool23:29
chelzto get it to a network folder you could script that23:29
StormStrikeschelz: yeah, I suppose I could do that.  But the HP has an automatic document feeder that makes all the docs I have to scan really easy.  And it seems inconceivable that if it works in Ubuntu, it wouldnt in Xubuntu23:31
chelzStormStrikes: if you try to do what you do in ubuntu with xubuntu it doesn't work?23:31
StormStrikesRight.  In fact, I did a long write up in the Ubuntu forums about how to get the HP 8600 to work in Ubuntu.  It took a while to figure it out, but it works in Ubuntu and I set it up the exact same way in Xubuntu23:32
StormStrikesIt sees the folder Ive set up, it just cant write to it for some reason.23:33
harryman100Hi, does anyone have any suggestions for debugging an issue I'm having. logging in through lightdm it hangs but only with certain users (from LDAP), local users are fine, logging in on the console works without delay23:39

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