[00:05] <uskerine> how can i make a service (nbd) being enabled by default during boot up?
[00:10] <uskerine> how can i define which services are enabled by default?
[00:11] <uskerine> at boot time i would like to know how to enable/disable tftp, dnsmasq and nbd
[01:05] <ThePendulum> Hey
[01:06] <ThePendulum> Is there a way to completely black-out (X)ubuntu until XBMC starts?
[01:07] <ThePendulum> So I don't see a desktop before XBMC gets to start, and preferably no "Xubutu" splash screen?
[02:09] <seb_> How do I downgrade flash from 11 to 10.x ? the new version does not work with my computer.
[02:11] <Unit193> !crosspost | seb_
[02:14] <ruien> seb_ are you not able to completely uninstall flash via your package manager ( http://askubuntu.com/questions/43050/uninstalling-flash-plugin-completely ), and then install the version you want?
[02:15] <seb_> No Ubuntu software center brings me back to verson 11 , when I try to install version 10.x
[06:46] <xubuntu255> hi
[06:47] <xubuntu255> what are the minimum system requirements for xubuntu 12.04
[06:48] <xubuntu255> nobody fucking knows huh?!?!?!?
[06:48] <hobgoblin> why don't you give people a chance to answer
[06:48] <bazhang> !language | xubuntu255
[06:48] <hobgoblin> as it is I can't be bothered now - well done
[06:48] <xubuntu255> sorry thought this was empty
[06:49] <xubuntu255> really....
[06:49] <hobgoblin> with 98 people in the channel
[06:49] <hobgoblin> good luck
[06:49] <bazhang> xubuntu255, no reason to curse
[06:49] <xubuntu255> okayokay.....just was expecting chatter
[06:50] <bazhang> chit chat in #xubuntu-offtopic xubuntu255
[06:50] <xubuntu255> anywho....i have a laptop with 256mb of ram and a 3ghz p4
[06:50] <bazhang> !lubuntu | xubuntu255
[06:50] <bazhang> or get more ram
[06:51] <hobgoblin> I'd +1 both those sentiments
[06:51] <xubuntu255> i just wanted to know....ram i dont have
[06:52] <xubuntu255> xu or lu is the question for me....
[06:52] <xubuntu255> i tried lu and i didnt like it missing right click menus
[06:52] <xubuntu255> xu looks more fuctional
[06:53] <hobgoblin> I'd try xubuntu then - but it will be less than snappy with that RAM
[06:54] <xubuntu255> well...i installed ubuntu on it and it never really fully booted...and i left it on all night,
[06:54] <hobgoblin> I am not surprised
[06:55] <xubuntu255> lol i know...i might go with lu cause its faster...but i like the way xu looks....i just need it to you know actually boot
[06:56] <xubuntu255> im going to use alt installer either way obvoiusly
[06:57] <xubuntu255> i could just install lu and then install xu's gui later right?
[06:58] <xubuntu255> change my desktop environment to xu's look.
[06:58] <hobgoblin> why not try a minimal install and build it up from there, might be better
[06:58] <xubuntu255> i have the hdd space....
[06:59] <hobgoblin> you could do that - but if you install xubuntu-dekstop you'de be bakc where you started - so just install the minimum you can
[06:59] <hobgoblin> I don't knwo which xfce things you would need though - someone else will - but you'll have to wait and see
[07:00] <xubuntu255> but i could restart and switch my desktop envirement back to lxde if gnome runs to slow????
[07:00] <hobgoblin> logout
[07:00] <xubuntu255> right....
[07:00] <xubuntu255> ya.
[07:00] <hobgoblin> and not gnome but xfce
[07:01] <xubuntu255> oh...sorry confused
[07:02] <xubuntu255> thanks
[07:02] <xubuntu255> appreciate your help....
[07:13] <xubuntu175> good morning
[07:14] <hobgoblin> it is
[07:14] <xubuntu175> I can not install 12.04, receiving message  via686a base address not set - upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr
[07:15] <hobgoblin> I've had that - usually it just carries one - I think you could add that line to the boot line when you start the live cd
[07:18] <xubuntu175> ok thank you i will try it
[07:18] <xubuntu175> bye
[07:19] <hobgoblin> welcome
[08:17] <uskerine> hi, how can i install updates from command line?
[08:17] <uskerine> is it just apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?
[08:17] <knome> yes
[08:17] <knome> (with sudo)
[08:17] <uskerine> is that exactly the same as the gui update manager (the red exclamation mark icon)
[08:17] <uskerine> ?
[08:18] <hobgoblin> it does the same thing
[08:18] <uskerine> i got the following message while doing it:
[08:18] <uskerine> "The following packages hae been kept bacjk"
[08:19] <uskerine> linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[08:19] <uskerine> why?
[08:19] <bolapara> uskerine, use dist-upgrade instead of upgrade
[08:20] <uskerine> what is the difference?
[08:20] <uskerine> i am in 12.04
[08:20] <uskerine> what dist-upgrade does?
[08:21] <bolapara> it will pull in the held-back packages
[08:21] <knome> uskerine, dist-upgrade upgrades packages that must be upgraded simultaneosly
[08:21] <Unit193> update only updates packages already installed, dist-upgrade will install new packages if needed.
[08:22] <Unit193> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/apt-get
[08:22] <Unit193> For more info
[08:23] <uskerine> what is recommended as regular server maintenance?
[08:23] <Unit193> Personally, I use dist-upgrade every day with no issues, but YMMV.
[08:23] <bolapara> upgrade is a bit safer as it only upgrades what is currently installed.
[08:24] <uskerine> YMMV, what does that mean?
[08:24] <bolapara> but i use dist-upgrade almost exclusively
[08:24] <Unit193> "Your mileage may vary"
[08:24] <uskerine> but dist-upgrade will install only new packages required by upgrades of the existing ones, right?
[08:24] <Unit193> Yep, exactly.
[08:24] <uskerine> so it is reasonablily safe
[08:24] <Sysi> bolapara: upgrade upgrades, dist-upgrade also installs new software, like kernel
[08:25] <bolapara> dist-upgrade can do things like remove dependencies which are no longer needed, install new packages
[08:25] <bolapara> Sysi, exactly
[08:25] <uskerine> so for example, in a fresh 12.04 installation
[08:26] <uskerine> why linux-headers-3.2.0-254 linux-headers-3.2.0-24-generic and linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic is being installed
[08:26] <uskerine> is it going to replace my kernel with 3.2?
[08:26] <uskerine> i have 3.2.0-23
[08:26] <baizon> its an upgrade
[08:26] <knome> you already have 3.2
[08:26] <baizon> bugfixes for your 3.2 kernel
[08:26] <uskerine> ok
[08:26] <uskerine> bugfixes are good as long as they do not break anything
[08:27] <Sysi> it doesn't replace, it installs new one parallel, it will be used on next boot
[08:27] <uskerine> ok
[08:27] <knome> uskerine, they shouldn't, but regressions are always possible with any upgrades
[08:27] <baizon> uskerine: if the new one doesnt work you can still boot from the old one
[08:27] <uskerine> ok
[08:28] <uskerine> i have two xubuntu used as LTSP servers
[08:28] <uskerine> i would like to sync users created in one into the other one
[08:28] <uskerine> any recommendation?
[08:34] <bolapara> uskerine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication
[08:34] <bolapara> non-trivial
[08:34] <uskerine> what about NIS, is it easier?
[08:35] <bolapara> they are both non-trivial to setup and maintain.
[08:36] <bolapara> i mean, not difficult per se, just effort.  but it is very helpful if managing multiple servers
[08:36] <bolapara> ldap is much more modern of a system than nis is
[08:36] <bolapara> if you have little experience, setups some test systems to play with it
[08:36] <uskerine> i installed nis a long time ago
[08:36] <uskerine> but i don't remember too much about it
[08:37] <uskerine> what about rsync /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and /etc/group?
[08:37] <bolapara> that sounds to me like a bad idea.  i'd rather setup ldap
[08:40] <Sysi> if you're using two machines for performance, you maybe should setup ltsp-cluster
[08:41] <uskerine> i am using two machines for redundancy rather than for performance
[08:41] <uskerine> what does ltsp-cluster in terms of user management for me?
[08:44] <Sysi> well, with it you could use both machines and it doesn't seem very hard to set up, so kind of workaround
[08:45] <uskerine> but if i add a new user
[08:45] <uskerine> where do i have to add it?
[10:58] <fikri> hi
[10:58] <fikri>  im using xubuntu 12.04
[10:58] <fikri> is there anyone using it?
[11:11] <pAt__> fikri, you are honestly asking this in a xubuntu channel?
[11:13] <fikri> yes
[11:13] <fikri> thanks
[11:13] <fikri> be right back
[11:13] <fikri> i had some business to settle
[11:33] <knome> Sysi, congrats for kapsi
[11:34] <Sysi> I got account within 15 minutes from making wish to join :P
[11:34] <knome> heh, congrats for that too
[11:34] <knome> took me some days, but was okay because i had a plan how to migrate over *a month*
[11:41] <fikri> So
[11:42] <fikri> here i can ask some question if i had some problem about xbuntu?
[11:42] <fikri> or is there ubuntu geeks here?
[11:44] <knome> !ask
[11:57] <fikri> Why Xubuntu cant find AT/AMD driver?
[11:58] <Sysi> Additional drivers dialog doesn't suggest it?
[12:05] <fikri> already do it
[12:05] <fikri> but it say failed
[12:05] <fikri> already do it few times
[12:13] <fikri> brb
[12:13] <fikri> want to restartr
[12:34] <fikri> anyone from Msia here?
[14:36] <fikri> I think XUbuntu had some problem with AMD Graphic
[14:36] <fikri> I already tried a few times using additional driver
[14:36] <baizon> what hardware?
[14:37] <fikri> But after activate it
[14:37] <fikri> it said
[14:37] <fikri> Sorry, installation of this driver failed
[14:37] <fikri> look at the log file for details /var/log/jockey.log
[14:37] <baizon> fikri: so download it from the homepage
[14:37] <baizon> and install from sources
[14:38] <fikri> ATI/ AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
[14:39] <fikri> is there AMD /ATI installer from the sources itself?
[14:41] <baizon> fikri: yes there is one
[14:41] <baizon> fikri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[14:51] <fikri> ok
[16:22] <uskerine> i have moved /etc/sudoers to /etc/sudoers.backup
[16:22] <uskerine> and now I no longer can do "sudo"
[16:22] <uskerine> is there any way to fix this up?
[16:23] <Sysi> boot to rescue mode and copy .backup back in the name of original
[16:23] <uskerine> how do i boot in rescue mode?
[16:23] <Sysi> select it in grub menu, hold shift when booting if you don't see it
[16:24] <uskerine> shift?
[16:25] <uskerine> recovery mode?
[16:25]  * drc just shakes his head and goes to get another cuppa....
[16:25] <uskerine> i got read-only file system
[16:27] <uskerine> Sysi, any idea on how to copy the file back with the read-only filesystem?
[16:28] <uskerine> (actually mount shows / as "rw")
[16:45] <felipemee> hi
[17:09] <Wertti> Hello! How do I know whether I am running "Ubuntu" or "Xubuntu"? "cat /etc/*-release"C gives the same output on both systems.
[17:09] <uskerine> Swhichi is the "proper" way of shutdown xubuntu from command line while connected through ssh?
[17:10] <uskerine> whichi is the "proper" way of shutdown xubuntu from command line while connected through ssh?
[17:10] <uskerine> which is the "proper" way of shutdown xubuntu from command line while connected through ssh?
[17:10] <uskerine> sorry
[17:10] <Wertti> i would use "sudo poweroff", it works
[17:11] <uskerine> is that an organized "shutdown"?
[17:13] <Wertti> yes
[17:30] <qinaga> ok this is one really quiet channel...xubuntu not very popular or what?
[17:31] <pleia2> this is a support channel, it's only used when people have problems/questions
[17:32] <Sysi> I consider this quite active channel
[17:32] <Sysi> IRC isn't really online even if it appears like it would be
[17:34] <qinaga> pleia2:  one way to interpret your statement is to assume the xubuntu users don't really have a lot of problems with the distro... :)
[17:34] <ChristopherNg> hello, is there anyway i can get pacman to work with xubuntu?
[17:34] <ChristopherNg> i really like the AUR and want to be able to use them
[17:35] <aguitel> no
[17:36] <aguitel> install archlinux with xfce4
[17:40] <ChristopherNg> aguitel: yes but i would like to maintain the xubuntu link
[17:41] <pleia2> it doesn't work, it's a completely different infrastructure, if you want the xubuntu themes the project for that is at http://shimmerproject.org/
[17:44] <aguitel> what link ??
[18:18] <ChristopherNg> +ignore +PARTS +JOINS +NICKS +QUITS
[18:19] <Sysi> almost
[18:19] <Unit193> /
[18:19] <ChristopherNg> yeah it was a typo
[18:20] <Unit193> Nicks could be handy if you are talking to someone.
[20:28] <uskerine> hi, which service do i have to restart to get the system re-read /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:49] <cypher-neo> Hello, I just installed Xubuntu 12.04. I'm having an issue. Every time that I restart my computer, the top panel does not seem to save my preferences. When it loads after a restart or update, all the elements on the panel are shuffled around.
[20:49] <cypher-neo> How do I make then stick in one place?
[20:51] <cypher-neo> Primarily it appears that one Seperator I placed in the panel does not load.
[20:51] <cypher-neo> Any ideas on how to keep the Seperator there?
[20:52] <cypher-neo> Anyone?
[20:54] <dooglus> hi #xubuntu.  I installed ubuntu 11.04 yesterday, then installed package xfce on top of it.  I'm missing a bunch of icons.  and idea what package I might need?
[20:54] <pimperle> dooglus: install the xubuntu-desktop package
[20:54] <dooglus> pimperle: I don't want all those apps
[20:54] <pimperle> it's a metapackage that will pull in all dependencies for a full xubuntu installation
[20:55] <Sysi> dooglus: install tango icon theme, if you already have gnome icon theme
[20:55] <pimperle> then you could install all its requirements manually and skip those you do not want
[20:56] <dooglus> pimperle: here's what it would pull in though: http://privatepaste.com/dab789b4ff
[20:56] <dooglus> Sysi: I have the tango icon theme - I guess it's part of ubuntu
[20:57] <cypher-neo> Hello. I installed Xubuntu 12.04. Got an issue. Every time the computer needs to restart, the top panel does not save... so on a restart every element in the panel is either in a different location or missing. Can anyone help?
[20:57] <dooglus> looks like <xubuntu-icon-theme is what I need
[20:57] <pimperle> dooglus: i have no idea, which packge contains the missing icons. why not install everything except the packages you sure know aren't at fault? that's what i'd do. :)
[20:58] <dooglus> pimperle: I pay through the nose for downloads
[20:58] <pimperle> ouch
[20:58] <dooglus> $300 last month!
[21:05] <cypher-neo> Can anyone answer me, please?
[21:08] <Sysi> cypher-neo: you should probably try completely wiping your settings, log out, press Ctrl Alt F6 and login to console, rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4 ; rm -rf ~/.cache
[21:28] <lucky___> hi all
[21:29] <lucky___> I cant get my system to boot
[21:30] <lucky___> anyone have any expertise in boot issues?
[21:31] <drc> lucky___: Then throw it away...it's obvious from all the details you've told us that it will never work.
[21:31] <drc> i.e., a few details might help.
[21:32] <lucky___> I have 12.4 xfce 64 bit
[21:33] <lucky___> It has never displayed any boot info
[21:33] <lucky___> now just passes post and runs a blank screen
[21:34] <lucky___> ctrl-alt-del are the3 only key combos that do anything
[21:39] <lucky___> I thought this should be a simple issue
[21:39] <mongy> lucky___,  you might need nomodeset
[21:39] <mongy> !nomodeset
[21:39] <lucky___> pardon "nomodeset?
[21:40] <lucky___> thank you
[21:45] <lucky___> I  looked up the link for "nomodeset"
[21:45] <lucky___> how woud i set that up using the original live disk
[22:02] <stripe> hi all is this the xubuntu help channel?
[22:03] <GridCube> yes
[22:03] <stripe> thanks GridCube
[22:04] <GridCube> !ask | stripe
[22:04] <GridCube> :)
[22:06] <stripe> nvidia graphics tearing, gts450 card, 295.53 driver any ideas?
[22:13] <StormStrikes> Can anyone lend assistance in setting up a shared folder.  It worked fine under vanilla Ubuntu, but is not under Xubuntu
[22:14] <StormStrikes> I have a folder set up in which I can scan from my printer and save it to my home directory (folder named Scanner) but when I set up the printer it says it has no write permissions
[22:14] <GridCube> !faq | StormStrikes
[22:14] <GridCube> mmmh that link is wrong
[22:15] <StormStrikes> yeah, I just got a page not found
[22:15] <GridCube> StormStrikes, http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1204-precise/
[22:15] <GridCube> faq 1
[22:16] <StormStrikes> Thanks.  I have gvfs-backends installed.
[22:16] <GridCube> so it doesnt work?
[22:17] <StormStrikes> I also have the samba gui installed and the folder is completely open.  I can see and write to it from my other computer. Just not from the printer
[22:17] <holstein> StormStrikes: you cant see or write to what from the printer?
[22:18] <StormStrikes> Right.  When I scan a page it says it cannot write to the folder Ive set up to save the scan to.
[22:18] <StormStrikes> I had it set up under Ubuntu and it worked perfectly, but for some reason it cannot write to it under Xubuntu
[22:19] <holstein> StormStrikes: xubuntu *is* ubuntu, so i would just take some time and tweak.. im sure you'll sort out how to get what you need
[22:19] <StormStrikes> When I run a test from the printers web server, it tests fine, sees the folder, but tells me it has no write permissions
[22:19] <holstein> StormStrikes: i usually find samba issues are permissions errors
[22:20] <StormStrikes> Well yeah, I understand that, however, when I right click a folder in Ubuntu (Nautilus) I have all the share options there, but thats not so under Xubuntu with Thunar
[22:20] <holstein> StormStrikes: user nautilus if you prefer
[22:20] <StormStrikes> Hmmm, that I have not tried, guess I could give that a shot.
[22:20] <GridCube> using nautilus on xubuntu can bring lots of problems
[22:21] <holstein> yup
[22:21] <StormStrikes> oh really?  Well crap, LOL
[22:21] <holstein> nautilus is just making some changes that you can make
[22:22] <GridCube> StormStrikes, have you tried gigolo?
[22:22] <StormStrikes> I even tried using iftop to see what name the printer was using to send that request to write.
[22:22] <StormStrikes> No, I have not tried gigolo yet.
[22:22] <StormStrikes> let me look at that.
[22:22] <holstein> i would just refer to the samba wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba and use gigolo as GridCube suggests
[22:53] <esmth> hello
[22:53] <GridCube> !hello esmth
[22:53] <GridCube> !hello  | esmth
[22:53] <GridCube> !hello | esmth
[22:53] <esmth> ??
[22:53] <GridCube> picky bot
[22:53] <GridCube> !hi | esmth
[22:54] <esmth> im installin xubuntu on a macbook pro
[22:54] <GridCube> :D nice
[22:54] <esmth> u play minecraft?
[22:54] <GridCube> no i do not
[22:54] <esmth> oh its fun
[22:54] <GridCube> theres a channel for minecrafters #minecraft
[22:55] <GridCube> :) i know i used to play a few years ago
[22:55] <esmth> i know haha
[22:55] <esmth> nice
[22:55] <GridCube> esmth, if you just want to chatter would you mind going to #xubuntu-offtopic, this channel is for support :)
[22:55] <esmth> ok
[22:58] <StormStrikes> Well no luck with gigolo.  It too sees the folder, but is not letting me connect.  When I add my password and click connect it just wipes it out and does nothing.
[22:58] <GridCube> are you trying to connecto a windows share that has a password for sure?
[22:59] <GridCube> i mean sometimes windows computers dont use a password
[22:59] <GridCube> i don't know how thats handled
[22:59] <StormStrikes> Okay, had not thought of that, let me try real quick.
[22:59] <StormStrikes> thats not working either.
[22:59] <GridCube> mmhm
[23:01] <GridCube> StormStrikes, its not like i dont want to help, but i dont know how to, maybe you will get better help asking on #samba
[23:01] <StormStrikes> sorry to be such a nuisance.  I just didnt expect this issue working with Xubuntu, LOL.  I thought it worked perfectly with Ubuntu, so I should have no issues there.
[23:01] <StormStrikes> No I understand.
[23:01] <GridCube> for many people it just works
[23:02] <StormStrikes> Yeah, it seems like a simple thing.  In Ubuntu I just right clicked, shared and was good to go, LOL.
[23:03] <StormStrikes> And its not like the printer doesnt see the folder, it does, just cant write to it.
[23:06] <GridCube> mmmmmmmmmmmaybe its on read only mode
[23:07] <StormStrikes> Yeah, thats what I thought.  But I set the folder to be read/write by others in the permissions
[23:08] <GridCube> mmmhm, maybe... you are not part of the samba users group?
[23:09] <StormStrikes> Nope, checked that too.  I wasnt initially, but added myself after I found that I wasnt
[23:10] <StormStrikes> Im leaning heavily that its a samb configuration issue, but Im not sure what.  Ive looked at the smb.conf file and do not see anything popping out at me.
[23:13] <StormStrikes> Hmmm, go figure, the samba users file, smbusers is empty.
[23:14] <StormStrikes> But Im not sure that is it though.  That would result in the printer telling me the credentials are wrong and thats not what its saying.  It just says it cant write to the specified folder
[23:24] <StormStrikes> I guess the better question, then, would be to ask if anyone has an HP OfficeJet Pro 8600 setup in Xubuntu and can scan to a network folder.
[23:29] <chelz> StormStrikes: i've never scanned stuff on linux but everyone says sane is the tool
[23:29] <chelz> to get it to a network folder you could script that
[23:31] <StormStrikes> chelz: yeah, I suppose I could do that.  But the HP has an automatic document feeder that makes all the docs I have to scan really easy.  And it seems inconceivable that if it works in Ubuntu, it wouldnt in Xubuntu
[23:31] <chelz> StormStrikes: if you try to do what you do in ubuntu with xubuntu it doesn't work?
[23:32] <StormStrikes> Right.  In fact, I did a long write up in the Ubuntu forums about how to get the HP 8600 to work in Ubuntu.  It took a while to figure it out, but it works in Ubuntu and I set it up the exact same way in Xubuntu
[23:33] <StormStrikes> It sees the folder Ive set up, it just cant write to it for some reason.
[23:39] <harryman100> Hi, does anyone have any suggestions for debugging an issue I'm having. logging in through lightdm it hangs but only with certain users (from LDAP), local users are fine, logging in on the console works without delay